May 6, 2024 • 39 mins
Ever wonder how a modern remake stands up to a cult classic? Strap in as Addy Asher and I break down the latest "Roadhouse" remake—where the promise of high-octane thrills meets the harsh reality of missed potential. Without the nostalgia goggles (I'm yet to watch the original), I expected a wild ride but found myself grappling with the film's attempt at humor and a less-than-stellar debut by Conor McGregor. We'll dissect the marketing missteps that might have buried this film's chances at success and debate whether the streaming giant Prime could've given it a better shot at the spotlight.
This episode takes the pulse of both versions of "Roadhouse," zeroing in on the heart of the film—the protagonist, Dalton. The original Dalton was a man with depth, his past trauma and strategic thinking adding layers to his tough exterior. Contrast that with the remake's Dalton, who seems to have traded vulnerability for invincibility, and you've got us questioning the impact on our connection to the story. Addy and I tackle the character evolution head-on, musing over the lost anticipation and engagement—a casualty of the remake's action-heavy approach.
As the curtains close, we don't hold back on our candid critique of the film's direction and missed opportunities to spotlight Jake Gyllenhaal's prowess. The action scenes, fight choreography, and the rest of the cast under our microscope reveal a film that could have soared but instead plummeted in our esteem. We even revisit those expectations—like the Family Guy-famous roundhouse kick—you won't find in this remake, laying bare how such omissions can leave fans feeling shortchanged. Join us for an unflinching look at a remake that could've been a contender but ended up down for the count.
This episode takes the pulse of both versions of "Roadhouse," zeroing in on the heart of the film—the protagonist, Dalton. The original Dalton was a man with depth, his past trauma and strategic thinking adding layers to his tough exterior. Contrast that with the remake's Dalton, who seems to have traded vulnerability for invincibility, and you've got us questioning the impact on our connection to the story. Addy and I tackle the character evolution head-on, musing over the lost anticipation and engagement—a casualty of the remake's action-heavy approach.
As the curtains close, we don't hold back on our candid critique of the film's direction and missed opportunities to spotlight Jake Gyllenhaal's prowess. The action scenes, fight choreography, and the rest of the cast under our microscope reveal a film that could have soared but instead plummeted in our esteem. We even revisit those expectations—like the Family Guy-famous roundhouse kick—you won't find in this remake, laying bare how such omissions can leave fans feeling shortchanged. Join us for an unflinching look at a remake that could've been a contender but ended up down for the count.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone and welcome to another podcast of
Movies Worth Seeing andironically, we're talking about
a movie that is not worth seeing.
And I'm joined by Addy Asherfor another special episode
Roadhouse.
Yet another remake Coming offof Dune Part 1 and 2, which were
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also remakes, but filmadaptations from books.
But now we have a Roadhouseremake and I was excited for
this.
I wanted to be optimistic aboutthis remake.
I really did.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, I've never seen the original Roadhouse.
I don't Shame on me.
By the time you see it, I willseen it.
I kind of enjoyed it at times.
I thought the comedy was prettygood.
The comedic aspects of themovie was pretty good.
I had no idea this movie evenexisted.
The remake yeah it will.
I did not see advertisedanywhere another prime at home.
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I didn't see it on thereactually.
No, I do have prime.
Just you forgot you had prime,I forgot I had prime.
So that's why I didn't even seeit advertised in prime or
anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I had no idea this remake was even coming I saw the
trailer on youtube, I saw conormcgregor, I saw jake gyllenhaal
and I was like I'm in, I'mintrigued, I just want to see
these two beat the shit out ofeach other.
And the movie didn't reallydeliver on that front of just
giving me these two guys beatingthe shit out of each other.
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What did you think of ConorMcGregor?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
His fighting is cool.
His physique is nice.
It suits the film.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Considering he's a short guy.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
He can't act, for shit.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Look I.
There's just this regularattitude of being a dickhead
like he is, and he's just beingso.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
He's just being connor in the ufc, which is okay
and it's good that the moviedoesn't ask him or require him
to do any emotional stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah good, thank god we don't but even his comedy
stuff is not even good you lookat john cena or you look at yeah
now we're getting intowrestlers, which is a whole
different bag a whole differentbag.
At least they learned how toact yeah, because wrestlers need
to their job.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
The the whole thing with wrestling is about
storytelling, so of course,wrestlers are going to be
naturally better at actingbecause they know what the story
is that they have to conveyafter we did Iron Claw I thought
the acting on stage there isfucking horrible.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
What acting on stage?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
the wrestling.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
WWE and all that kind of stuff what wrestling did you
watch?
With Iron Claw.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
The wrestling that they do on the stage, because
it's the same.
Isn't that what you're talkingabout?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I think the WWE and the wholewrestling on stage is so badly
acted that you cannot comparethat to acting into a movie.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, I'm not saying the talking points and stuff
like that, but I'm saying whenthey're wrestling in the ring,
they're physically conveying astory.
Okay, cool, they're not a ufcfighter.
Yeah, their whole goal is justwin the fight, win the
competition.
Yeah, I'm saying with awrestler they're doing, they're
trying to suck the audience intothe story.
They're trying to suck theaudience into the story.
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They're trying to engage theaudience.
Yeah, the audience is notinterested in the match.
They've fucked up.
They're not just trying to winthe match.
There's more to it, it's morecomplex.
So that's why I'm sayingwrestlers are a bit more better.
There's been a history ofwrestlers being better at acting
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, transitioning into acting yeah, okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, because conor mcgregor is just absolute shit.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah I've seen worse.
Ronda rousey in one of the fastand furious movies is fucking
terrible.
She can't act for shit.
Look with Connor.
I think that he's funny for thewrong reasons yeah, because he
is hamming it up, but he's alsothe only one that gave me any
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entertaining moments in themovie where I was like genuinely
, ah.
Once he gets introduced to thestory I'm like, oh my God,
finally this movie's starting togo somewhere the story.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm like, oh my god, finally this movie's starting to
go somewhere.
But I don't think he paid.
I think that's moreanticipation based on the
original.
Okay, cool, this is where theaction starts to really take off
.
But I don't think what you'resaying.
He did not pay that off.
Yes, yeah, cool, he gotintroduced pretty grand kind of
things.
Oh my god, who's this badassgonna come?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
and it's actually yeah, yeah I don't think he paid
it off, but I'm saying, whenhis intro came I was like I was
half asleep on this movie andthen I was like, oh fuck,
finally connor's here.
Now it feels like the movie'sstarting to roll because the
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plot points in this remake.
There was one particular partwhere I was like, oh my god,
finally the movie's starting toget rolling and I was saying to
you, in the original this plotpoint happens in like the first
30, 40 minutes.
Yeah, but for some reason inthis movie it takes an hour and
20 minutes to get there.
Yeah, maybe pads out what couldeasily be an hour and a half
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movie and turns it into twohours for no reason at all no, I
gotta say, though it's.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's interesting to see the difference of opinion on
that because you have, you know, the original and I have
nothing to compare this tobecause I haven't seen the
original.
I didn't mind the first hourand 15 minutes.
It was slow pace, but it wascomedic.
It was pretty interesting.
You got to see the whole lifeof everything that's happening.
You got a rhythm.
I thought the rhythm was youwere complaining about the
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rhythm that was so fucking slow.
It's like, yeah, maybe comparedto the original, yes, but I
didn't mind it.
I thought it was comedic.
It kept me entertained,entertained.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I think that's, yeah, that's this is bringing up.
When we watched Hunger Gamesand I was like, oh, it wasn't
that bad, the Hunger Gamesprequel.
And then you said to me yeah,go watch the original Hunger
Games.
Then I watched the originalHunger Games and I said to you.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
This is a thousand times better.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
The exact same thing has happened here, where you
haven't watched the original, soyou don't know how good the
original is now.
Mind you, the, the originalroadhouse is not citizen kane,
it's not anything.
It's not like anythingemotionally fucking riveting or
anything like that.
It is cheesy, it is pure 80smachismo, but it's fun.
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The fight scenes look real.
Patrick swayze actuallychoreographed his fight scenes
with his co-star and he actuallygot injuries from filming it
because he took the fight sceneseriously.
This fucking movie, every fightscene, looks so sterile, it's
so cgi and like it's sanitized.
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Yeah, there's no grit, there'sno realism to anything.
You know exactly when thecamera is moving from one scene
to another and it's trying tohide its cuts.
Through editing you can tellexactly where the cuts are.
That takes me completely out ofthe action.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, it doesn't feel it doesn't flow naturally from
one moment to the next.
It's no, it's chopped and takesthe illusion away.
But the whole purposes of amovie because you want it, or at
least, yeah, that's the purposeof most movies, especially for
this one you want to create aflow.
That's editing, one-on-one.
You don't want to stop the flowfor the audience, and it did
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happen with this movie quite abit.
So that's on the editing side.
Perhaps on the DOP side as well, because I don't know, the
editor's only given certainfootage you can work with.
But from the filmmakingperspective that was
disappointing.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
That was disappointing because it's
Roadhouse.
You want the fight scenes tolook good.
You want to see Connor and JakeGyllenhaal go at it and be a
real down and dirty fight andinstead you get this CGI shit.
There was even a scene where,like this boat, this canoe from
the roof.
Why did that?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
get CGI'd?
I don't understand.
It's a.
I was working on a set of Thorand the whole building was set
on fire and exploded withexplosives and a car was
exploding.
It was all real explosive,fucking, horrible movie.
But at least that action wasreal.
Whatever can be made real, withall space monsters and
everything what can be made real, was made real.
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A canoe falling off the ceiling.
Why did that have to be CGI'd?
That is the cheapest trick youcould create, the cheapest
action you could create.
It's cheaper than a fuckingextra for the day.
Yeah, an extra for a day willcost you 700 bucks.
Making a canoe drop.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Look, I can do it for 50 bucks for you if you want
yeah, the canoe dropping wassomething where I was like that
could have been practical, somestuff.
I was like, okay, I canunderstand when cgi is used to
cut costs.
This movie was being releasedon streaming services instead of
in theaters.
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Maybe a lot of the budget wouldhave went to getting connor and
jake gyllenhaal.
I get that.
But there's still stuff whereyou say to yourself that could
have been done a better way.
It could have been done morepractical, because when you
watch the original Roadhouse,there's no CGI in it and
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everything looks glorious.
The blood and gall looks good.
The wounds, the fucking, thefacial, the wounds, the freaking
wounds.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I cut my finger earlier today at work and I had
more blood coming from a simplelittle cut on my thumb than
seven stab wounds on people.
How many times did Connor getstabbed?
I don't know.
Is that a spoiler?
Fuck, that's right.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Dalton gets stabbed.
Jake Gyllenhaal's character,dalton, gets stabbed.
Everybody gets stabbed andnobody actually bleeds properly.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
It doesn't make sense .
You get a stab in your kidneyguess what?
Blood is going to squirteverywhere.
You get stabbed in yourshoulders, in your chest, in
your leg, in everywhere.
Blood is going to come out,flying on every side of you.
I had more blood coming out ofmy thumb.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It doesn't make sense .
It's not only that, but whenyou get stabbed, there's usually
pain associated with that.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That you feel?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, and so this movie took one idea from the
original that Dalton doesn'tfeel pain.
But it's not true.
It's not that he doesn't feelpain, he just says, oh, pain
don't hurt.
It's fucking cheesy guys.
And he's saying it to thisnurse as she's stitching him up,
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right, yeah, but you can seethat he's hiding the pain, that
it's not really that paindoesn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
He's not invincible.
In the movie he gets beaten up.
Yeah, it's just the movie thisremake tries to make out like
Dalton's, just indestructible.
At one point In the firstcouple of minutes he gets
stabbed by someone and he has noreaction at all.
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The first time I watched it Iwas like, oh, he must have some
kind of jacket, something toprotect him, because he knows
that people are going to come upto him and stab him out of
frustration.
Right, for example, in theoriginal roadhouse, right,
dalton goes to this town.
He takes the job to be thebouncer.
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Right, he knows that when hegoes into this business he's
going to have to fire a wholebunch of staff because they're
going to be shit, like they'regoing to be stealing.
They're going to be not goodfighters or bouncers, stuff like
that.
So he knows I'm going to bestealing, they're going to be
not good fighters or bouncers,stuff like that.
So he knows I'm going to comeinto this bar fire.
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A whole bunch of people takeover, they're going to be pissed
and they're going to slash mytyres of my car.
So you see him have this reallyshitty car that he drives to
the bar because he knows that'sgoing to happen.
Yeah, he knows that his car isgoing to get the tyres slashed
and the car's going to getbeaten up.
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I like that.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I like that a lot.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, because you see , him be like he's got a really
nice Mercedes, I think, but yousee him go and buy a piece of
shit car, so why?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
does he have a?
Why does Patrick Swayze have avery beautiful mercedes but jake
gyllenhaal has a piece of shitcar?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
yeah, this is another big change from the original to
the remake and the original.
Patrick swayze is a fuckingbadass.
Like he's at the top of hisgame.
He is a top bouncer and thenthey made jake gyllenhaal.
It was like, oh, his ghost orhis trauma was.
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He used to be a big ufc fighterbut now he's washed up, he's
hit rock bottom all thatstereotypical shit.
Okay, look, I understand why,trying to make him more
relatable or vulnerable, becausein the original roadhouse one
of the things that probablywasn't done well is that dalton
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kind of has a trauma but it'svery vaguely talked about that
like he had some somerelationship with some woman who
was married or whatever.
Yeah, but it's so glossed overthere's barely any time given to
it.
It's an action, exactly,whereas in this they go full
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deep into.
He's sleeping in his fuckingcar.
He's winning these shittyfights by just just by appearing
, because people see that, oh,he's a former UFC fighter.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I like that, though I like his entrance of oh no,
fucking way, I'm not fuckingfighting this guy.
I liked it because, shit, I canexpect something from this guy,
like you don't know what yet,because I, like I said, I
haven't seen the original, soit's like cool, I know this guy
is going to be a good fighter,but I have no idea what to
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expect from this guy.
Yeah, so I like theintroduction because it created,
like this, anticipation forwhat he's going to do next.
Yeah, without giving anythingaway of what he's going to do, I
like that.
But I do understand that ifyou're used to, if you've seen
the original and you're like Iwant to see this guy fight and
then he doesn't, it'sdisappointing.
I get that.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
The original does a similar thing, where it's
building the anticipation.
Like they're showing Dalton.
Everyone's like holy shit,that's Dalton.
Like everyone's talking moreabout Dalton and how awesome he
is, and they're building it upLike they don't just throw him
into a fight scene straight away.
He comes into the bar and thenhe's analyzing like what's wrong
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with the bar, but he doesn'tfight at the end Not the first
time he comes into the barbecause he's just no, but is it?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So just a question For the original, that fight
sequence when he's against, hesteps into the ring and the
guy's like, no, I'm not going tofight this guy.
Yeah, in the remake.
In the remake, yeah, Is that inthe original as well?
No, the first time him everfighting is just in the bar.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, In the original yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, okay, cool Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Okay, back to it.
In the original, patrickSwayze's Dalton comes into the
bar.
You're just told oh fuck, he'sthe one.
You see the bar owner come toDalton and be like hey man, I
hear you're the best and he's no, I'm not the best.
Wade Garrett's the best.
He's, yeah, but Wade Garrett'sgetting old, so I want you, okay
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, but do you see him in aleadership role, that he's
controlling all the bouncers andjust like directing them?
Yeah, because he knows how todo his job, gotcha, so you can
see a little bit of hispotential and that is awesome.
And it does build up to where,when he does get into a fight
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scene, everyone's like holy shit, he just fucking.
Did you see that?
Similar to when JakeGyllenhaal's slapping all the
dudes?
Yeah, it's similar to thatwhere everyone sees it and
they're like fuck, did you seethat shit?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, that's the first shot, the first fighting
sequence.
Yeah, and the only thing Icould think of, do you know that
skit where the dad gets likeslap and he slaps everybody at
the barbecue.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I thought of that too .
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That has to be a joke on that.
It has to be.
Why slap?
I guess because he didn't wantto, like, really go for blood, I
know, but but it looks stupid,that looks so stupid and that
slap skit is old as and this wasmade after that slap skit.
They know that had the effecton viewers Because everybody has
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seen that slap skit.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
But the slapping and the CGI shit on top of the fight
makes it look worse.
Yeah, yeah, I just didn't getthat.
There was no scene where I saidto myself, fuck, that felt Like
.
It felt like a fight scene,where there was like, when you
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watch the original road house,like there is a lot of blood
there is a lot of fucking.
They had to compensate with thismovie, so they took all the
blood out but it's shit becauseit's like if you're to remake a
movie that was rated R back inthe 80s, bring the R rating back
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, Bring all the blood and gore.
But not just that.
There's a scene in the originalRoadhouse where this monster
truck fucking destroys a wholecar lot.
And it's awesome because youcan see that it's real.
You see it all.
Just all the fucking windowsbreak and the cars get crushed
and it just looks awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I want to see that.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
See, I'm already selling you on the original.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
The other thing, the other problem I had with this
movie is it tries to makeeverything more complex than it
needs to be.
We can't just get straight up.
Okay, he's the bad guy.
Focus all your attention onthis being the bad guy.
Conor McGregor is hisright-hand man, which is
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essentially what the originalRoadhouse was.
You had Brad Wesley.
He's 100% the villain.
You know that.
He's also intimidating.
He always has the leg up.
He plays the mind games.
He uses the town as his ownkind of personal fun place to
just fuck around, break the lawsand stuff like that.
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Do whatever he wants.
He enjoys doing that shit.
He gets off on it.
You see the damage he inflictson the townspeople.
You want to see him get fuckedup.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You get to hate him, you love to hate him, kind of
thing.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You get to hate him, but he's also really fucking
entertaining.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, exactly To watch.
Well, that's good.
In this he was just an annoyingrich young prick.
He's just this annoying.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, typical young, fucking entitled kind of kid
that's been handed everything byhis dad.
You get told that his dad's injail and really his dad's the
mastermind, but you never get tosee his dad.
Yeah, so it just totallyundervalues him as the villain.
You're like, oh, I think thisguy's the villain, but I get the
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sense that there's someone elsecoming, yeah, and then when
conor mcgregor comes in, you'relike, okay, maybe conor's gonna
be the actual, proper villain ofthis story, but he's not.
He's just like another henchmanthat's brought in but that takes
over too much as far as themarketing and and stuff goes, he
takes over a lot, but barely inthe movie yeah, but then he
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takes over as the bad guy.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
It's like just because he's stronger does not
mean he has to be the actual,the actual villain.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
It's still and the rich family brand.
Right, there's all thisconflict between this rich young
kid I don't even remember thefucker's name, that just goes to
show Brand Brand.
I don't know why I couldn't justkeep the name of the guy from
the original.
This would have made it so mucheasier.
But anyway, brand Brad Wesley2.0, whatever.
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This guy then ends up inconflict with Conor mcgregor's
character, nox, being like oh,like, what the fuck is wrong
with you?
I can't control this guy.
Like my dad hired this guy andnow I need to try and tame him
and it's just so boring andmakes it more complicated than
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it needs to be.
When all you had to do was havethe crooked cop, he could have
been the villain.
Just say this crooked cop runsthis town and uses it to like
peddle drugs and shit like that,yeah.
And he doesn't like theroadhouse because they don't pay
him for protection, so he getshis guys in there to fuck it up
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yeah.
And then you have the owner ofRoadhouse hire Dalton to be like
I need you to fix the place up.
The thing that I don't like isall the interesting stuff from
the original Roadhouse getschanged and put in place is
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something dull and boring.
It's the same with the colourgrading.
Like the colours of theoriginal Roadhouse, it's bright.
It represents that bright kindof neon lights that you would
associate with bars, yeah,whereas in this.
The only brightness I saw iswhen the Roadhouse title card
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showed up in the movie.
The rest of it is like all thisdesaturated shit, murky colours
and there's no vibrancy in it.
It's not fun to look at, it'sjust reality.
You want to see escapism.
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You want to escape in thebright, colourful world of this
of Roadhouse, and you don't getthat here.
The other thing is in theoriginal Roadhouse you actually
get to see the bar evolve and gofrom like a real shithole to oh
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, now it's starting to get morepeople, it's becoming more
successful.
The bouncer stuff there's moreof them.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
It's a storyline, but how do they dare to include
something like that?
Because that's a storyline thatactually makes sense.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, they don't do that here.
Why would they in this?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
we don't get a sense of it's real shithole.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
No, it's beautiful bar say from the beginning, even
though it gets hammered andcrushed and destroyed every
night.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's still a beautiful bar.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's like they were afraid to make it look shit.
Yeah, whereas in the original,straight away, they establish
that not only is the bar fuckedand it attracts horrible guests
bikers, whatever that startfights, but there's the staff
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that are stealing money.
There's staff members that fuckoff during their break and fuck
people when they should beserving, like that's pretty
normal.
Yeah, yeah, that's true, still,yeah, and he used to work in a
bar so he can attest to this.
Ah, and the other cool thing isseeing Dalton fire the staff and
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they get pissed off and thestaff that he fires from the bar
end up siding with the villain.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
As if to say fuck him , I'm going to take him down now
.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's awesome.
That's like a character arc forthe shitty side characters.
Yeah, it's a cool character arcCool.
I understand that it's awesome.
That's like a character arc forthe shitty side characters.
Yeah, it's a cool character arcCool.
I understand that.
I get it.
I get it Like Peter should livethe shit out of him, but I get
it Now, just now.
It's too PC Too nice.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I don't know if it was too PC, not PC Too nice.
It was too correct, they didanother aspect of Dalton's
character in the original is benice, right.
Yeah, he's nice to a point he'snice in the confines of the bar
.
When he's working in the bar,yeah, he says to the guys we
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have rules, be nice, yeah, he'sworking in the bar, yeah, he
says to the guys we have rules,be nice, yeah.
And then the staff are like,really what, I'm gonna be nice
even if a bar staff, uh, I'mgonna be nice even if a customer
calls me a cocksucker and he'syeah, you're gonna be nice, but
really, yeah, it's just a phraseor word used to elicit a
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response, so you just be nice.
And then he says, in regards tofights, you never fight in the
bar, you take it outside, whichthey completely ignore in this
movie oh yeah, completely.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
The whole bar gets destroyed every night fucking
all of it.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
They completely ignore all the rules that Dalton
follows.
That makes him unique andinteresting, and instead he
beats the shit out of five guysand then decides he's going to
drive them to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I like that.
I thought that was actuallyreally fucking funny.
That's the thing Stupid, it isdumb, it's stupid, it's not very
justified, but I didn't mind itbecause it was fun.
It's just like cool.
Okay, it makes this guy reallylikable and it really shames the
bad guys.
It really puts them in placeand I like that because it's
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funny.
But yeah, it's weird.
I'm not sure if it's in place.
I'd made it more of a comedythan anything.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
But yeah, that's what I felt.
I felt this movie was more of acomedy.
I felt it was trying too hardto be more of a comedy than an
action movie, whereas theoriginal is more of an action
movie, with some really funnymoments, comedic moments that
are also memorable.
I can quote the original.
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I can't remember a single quotefrom that movie.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You might not be the hero, but you're not the villain
either.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I only remember that because I said to you that's a
shit line and I was like, pleasedon't tell me the movie is
going to end on such a shit line.
And it did, it did.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
All right, so tell me , Michael, out of five stars,
what would you give it?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Overall, roadhouse 2024 is a predictable, by the
numbers remake that for somereason, completely changes all
the things that were good aboutthe original and then changes
all the things that for noreason.
Just to make it morecomplicated.
It complicates the story, dragsout the runtime and pads it
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with all these unnecessaryscenes, slows down the pacing
and is just a forgettable remakethat you'll watch and you'll
forget about completely.
The only great thing about thismovie is that it could be the
start of something for conormcgregor.
Whether or not that's a goodthing or a bad thing, we we'll
have to wait and see.
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There's one thing I learnedfrom this is cut down on Conor
McGregor's dialogue.
They should go the Batistaroute Batista who actually can
act, though he was in a JamesBond movie where he didn't say
anything.
Oh really, yeah, I didn't knowthat, but he was like playing a
henchman.
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That's what they should havehad Conor McGregor do in this
movie Just be the henchman thatjust sits there, looks like a
threat and kicks ass.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
It was great with his physique, like the fighting
sequences, his presence,physically Brilliant.
He opens his mouth and it'sjust shit.
And then he yeah, it's just,and then also just.
His voice just does not matchhis physique.
He has a very high voice, yeah,but he should have a very low
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voice for someone yeah, highirish accent high irish accent
it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You do nothing, you do nothing and I can't take it
serious.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
And then he's like smiling all the time he went in
and out of accent.
He went sometimes to like anAmerican accent for whatever
reason.
You didn't notice.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I don't know.
He's just got to play rolesthat don't have a lot of
dialogue.
That's all I put it down to.
You've got to protect theseguys because you know that their
acting experience isn't there.
They're purely there for theirstar power, based on shit
they've done in other movies andstuff.
Connor is a good talker in theconfines of ufc, but not not in
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this context.
So just minimize his dialogueand then see how he goes.
Let his physical presence tellthe story, because there was a
lot of dialogue where I was like, oh man, if they had just cut,
just trimmed a little bit off,he could have kept his mystique
and his intensity the.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
The writing was pretty on the nose at points.
Yeah, they should have just cuthis lines a lot.
Yeah, but also for othercharacters they could have cut
so much dialogue.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And Rambo.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Stallone as Rambo.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So like the first Rambo movie, right Stallone said
there was all this cringydialogue, mm-hmm, and he said he
crossed out like 80% of thedialogue and the movie's amazing
, one of the best action moviesof all time.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Stallone can't really talk anyway.
Better that he didn't talk.
I disagree.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I think that Stallone , when he has the right story,
especially in the Rocky movies,he can talk.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, have you seen Copland Copland?
No, I haven't seen Copland.
I can watch Copland Copland.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
No, I haven't seen Copland fucking watch Copland,
robert De Niro, stallone, rayLiotta as well.
Copland, okay, but but anyway,the point is, yes, he took all
this dialogue out and Rainbowwas able to convey a lot through
just his physical presence.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
He didn't have.
He didn't need dialogue.
Yeah, dialogue is such a smallpercentage of information that
comes across.
You can give so much moreinformation.
Just shut your mouth and have acool camera angle.
That's all you need A thoughtshot in the eye with the right
lighting, with the right kind ofsound, and keep your mouth shut
.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
That dialogue is overrated and I'm thinking about
it now and I'm like that scenecould have been really powerful
if Connor didn't say that line.
Let's put it on mute for asecond.
Yeah, if you put it on mute andjust watch him, oh, you're like
fuck, no, that would be cool.
But yeah, they just give himway too much, way too much
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talking.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
One out of five stars .
Zero out of five stars.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I'll give it two out of five stars for Jake
Gyllenhaal.
I think that I know he's somuch better than this.
I know he's a great actor.
I've seen him in Nightcrawler.
I've seen him in Prisoners andI know he's so much better than
this.
I know he's a great actor.
I've seen him in Nightcrawler,I've seen him in Prisoners and I
know he's amazing.
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You can see him like reallytrying to salvage this.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But it just.
They made his character a verynumb character, yeah, which
doesn't give him a lot.
Nah, so two out of five, notbad, yeah, I'm going to go with
two out of five.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, this is definitely in the category of
remakes you should avoid, but itdoes make me want to go see the
original, especially now that Ijust watched this.
As a palate cleanser, to justrefresh After eating a really
shitty meal and you just want tohave a nice piece of dessert to
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just be like all right, makingme hungry now cleanse the taste
buds, get rid of the shit.
Could have some ice cream athome now.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, cool, I thought I thought the comedy was really
good.
I thought the fight sequenceswere decent, but the camera
angles and the transitions andthe camera movements ruined the
whole thing.
Some of the acting from some ofthe characters was very average
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.
Some of them felt like NPCs.
Oh, that little girl.
The little girl felt like annpc.
Um, ellie felt like an npc attimes the love interest yeah, I
didn't like her acting at all.
She was terrible in the firsthalf and terrible in the second
half.
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Actually it was pretty bad.
So she was just terrible.
It was just pretty, prettyfucking bad.
I thought a lot of what she didwas on the nose.
I'm not sure if it's that theactress's choice.
Remember her name?
Do you remember her name?
I don't remember if it was herchoice or if it's a directing
choice, but you could straightoff the bat.
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She gave away that she wassexually interested in this guy.
That's like that with a stabwound that doesn't cry like a
bitch.
So she's sexually interested inthat straight away.
And I don't know if she gavemore attitude and be more
distant from it, it would havebeen so much more interesting,
because then you want them tohook up.
But if she already gives awayfrom the beginning, it's like
nah, stay away from her, she's aslut.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
It just became that whole thing of wow, she's like
really forward with him, yeah,and he's not giving her anything
at all.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, it took away the magic.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
In the original Roadhouse you actually see them
come together.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
You don't ever see that in this.
No, the second they meet, she'salready with a foot in the door
.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
she's already there but like, even when there is
something there and they start,it starts to spark.
In the original it was allabout he had this relationship
not work out, so he didn't wantto get hurt again, yeah.
So there was like a lot of oh Idon't know if I should move on
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and then you felt like this guywas finally opening up, yeah,
like you could see that he wastrying not to get involved with
her.
And then he got emotional.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yes, with this one they have a different arc.
Because he was saying in amoment where they were sitting
like in that shallow water witha beer, you don't want to get to
know me.
As soon as she was askingpersonal questions he stood up
and he was like can we go?
You don't want to know me.
So he had that kind of becauseof his ghost, because of he
killed his friend in the ring.
Um, he didn't want anybody toknow who he really is.
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He couldn't accept himself forwho he really is because he has
anger issues that when it getstoo far he can't control himself
, which he learns to embrace atthe end.
But they gave him that arcinstead and they just did not
flesh it out past that point.
It was disappointing Characterarc from that perspective of why
he couldn't commit to arelationship.
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It goes, left hangingunresolved.
He didn't deal with it.
She never asked him any otherquestions, he never talked about
anything else.
It was just that's it.
And then they yeah, they madeout and then next time you saw
her she was coming to the bar toto treat some people, and the
next time she was abduct, shewas coming to the bar to treat
some people and the next timeshe was abducted in a boat and
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then that's it.
That's the end.
So that arc, that relationshipbuild up, never got resolved,
got set up poorly and then noteven paid off.
So that's a waste of acharacter.
She was not even needed in thisfilm.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah you didn't need her, because there was no
passion in anything thathappened either.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Zero.
So with that, with this veryshitty CGI, I would give the
movie still, because I like theflow of it.
I would say three and a halfstars.
But I was made a promise withFamily Guy Roadhouse Round Kick
and did not get delivered, soI'm going to reduce it to three
stars.
I was waiting for a roundhousekick.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
And for him to look at the camera and say Roadhouse.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Not necessarily that much, but I was like Roadhouse,
but I was waiting for the FamilyGuy, the classic Peter Griffin
roadhouse kick.
Did that happen in the original?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, he kicks the shit out of heaps of dudes.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Why did they not do the freaking roadhouse kick?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Dude, he fucking rips a guy's throat out, fucking
hell.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I'm going to watch the original.
This sounds too good.
It's fucking sick.
All right, ripping throats out.
I want that roundhouse kick.
Anyway, I'm reducing mine to athree stars because I did not
get delivered on what waspromised disappointing yep, all
right.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Guys.
If you enjoyed this, pleaseshare and subscribe for more
content like this latersroadhouse.
Hey everyone and welcome to another podcast of
Movies Worth Seeing andironically, we're talking about
a movie that is not worth seeing.
And I'm joined by Addy Asherfor another special episode
Roadhouse.
Yet another remake Coming offof Dune Part 1 and 2, which were
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also remakes, but filmadaptations from books.
But now we have a Roadhouseremake and I was excited for
this.
I wanted to be optimistic aboutthis remake.
I really did.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, I've never seen the original Roadhouse.
I don't Shame on me.
By the time you see it, I willseen it.
I kind of enjoyed it at times.
I thought the comedy was prettygood.
The comedic aspects of themovie was pretty good.
I had no idea this movie evenexisted.
The remake yeah it will.
I did not see advertisedanywhere another prime at home.
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I didn't see it on thereactually.
No, I do have prime.
Just you forgot you had prime,I forgot I had prime.
So that's why I didn't even seeit advertised in prime or
anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I had no idea this remake was even coming I saw the
trailer on youtube, I saw conormcgregor, I saw jake gyllenhaal
and I was like I'm in, I'mintrigued, I just want to see
these two beat the shit out ofeach other.
And the movie didn't reallydeliver on that front of just
giving me these two guys beatingthe shit out of each other.
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What did you think of ConorMcGregor?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
His fighting is cool.
His physique is nice.
It suits the film.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Considering he's a short guy.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
He can't act, for shit.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Look I.
There's just this regularattitude of being a dickhead
like he is, and he's just beingso.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
He's just being connor in the ufc, which is okay
and it's good that the moviedoesn't ask him or require him
to do any emotional stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah good, thank god we don't but even his comedy
stuff is not even good you lookat john cena or you look at yeah
now we're getting intowrestlers, which is a whole
different bag a whole differentbag.
At least they learned how toact yeah, because wrestlers need
to their job.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
The the whole thing with wrestling is about
storytelling, so of course,wrestlers are going to be
naturally better at actingbecause they know what the story
is that they have to conveyafter we did Iron Claw I thought
the acting on stage there isfucking horrible.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
What acting on stage?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
the wrestling.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
WWE and all that kind of stuff what wrestling did you
watch?
With Iron Claw.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
The wrestling that they do on the stage, because
it's the same.
Isn't that what you're talkingabout?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I think the WWE and the wholewrestling on stage is so badly
acted that you cannot comparethat to acting into a movie.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, I'm not saying the talking points and stuff
like that, but I'm saying whenthey're wrestling in the ring,
they're physically conveying astory.
Okay, cool, they're not a ufcfighter.
Yeah, their whole goal is justwin the fight, win the
competition.
Yeah, I'm saying with awrestler they're doing, they're
trying to suck the audience intothe story.
They're trying to suck theaudience into the story.
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They're trying to engage theaudience.
Yeah, the audience is notinterested in the match.
They've fucked up.
They're not just trying to winthe match.
There's more to it, it's morecomplex.
So that's why I'm sayingwrestlers are a bit more better.
There's been a history ofwrestlers being better at acting
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, transitioning into acting yeah, okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, because conor mcgregor is just absolute shit.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah I've seen worse.
Ronda rousey in one of the fastand furious movies is fucking
terrible.
She can't act for shit.
Look with Connor.
I think that he's funny for thewrong reasons yeah, because he
is hamming it up, but he's alsothe only one that gave me any
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entertaining moments in themovie where I was like genuinely
, ah.
Once he gets introduced to thestory I'm like, oh my God,
finally this movie's starting togo somewhere the story.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm like, oh my god, finally this movie's starting to
go somewhere.
But I don't think he paid.
I think that's moreanticipation based on the
original.
Okay, cool, this is where theaction starts to really take off
.
But I don't think what you'resaying.
He did not pay that off.
Yes, yeah, cool, he gotintroduced pretty grand kind of
things.
Oh my god, who's this badassgonna come?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
and it's actually yeah, yeah I don't think he paid
it off, but I'm saying, whenhis intro came I was like I was
half asleep on this movie andthen I was like, oh fuck,
finally connor's here.
Now it feels like the movie'sstarting to roll because the
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plot points in this remake.
There was one particular partwhere I was like, oh my god,
finally the movie's starting toget rolling and I was saying to
you, in the original this plotpoint happens in like the first
30, 40 minutes.
Yeah, but for some reason inthis movie it takes an hour and
20 minutes to get there.
Yeah, maybe pads out what couldeasily be an hour and a half
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movie and turns it into twohours for no reason at all no, I
gotta say, though it's.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's interesting to see the difference of opinion on
that because you have, you know, the original and I have
nothing to compare this tobecause I haven't seen the
original.
I didn't mind the first hourand 15 minutes.
It was slow pace, but it wascomedic.
It was pretty interesting.
You got to see the whole lifeof everything that's happening.
You got a rhythm.
I thought the rhythm was youwere complaining about the
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rhythm that was so fucking slow.
It's like, yeah, maybe comparedto the original, yes, but I
didn't mind it.
I thought it was comedic.
It kept me entertained,entertained.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I think that's, yeah, that's this is bringing up.
When we watched Hunger Gamesand I was like, oh, it wasn't
that bad, the Hunger Gamesprequel.
And then you said to me yeah,go watch the original Hunger
Games.
Then I watched the originalHunger Games and I said to you.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
This is a thousand times better.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
The exact same thing has happened here, where you
haven't watched the original, soyou don't know how good the
original is now.
Mind you, the, the originalroadhouse is not citizen kane,
it's not anything.
It's not like anythingemotionally fucking riveting or
anything like that.
It is cheesy, it is pure 80smachismo, but it's fun.
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The fight scenes look real.
Patrick swayze actuallychoreographed his fight scenes
with his co-star and he actuallygot injuries from filming it
because he took the fight sceneseriously.
This fucking movie, every fightscene, looks so sterile, it's
so cgi and like it's sanitized.
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Yeah, there's no grit, there'sno realism to anything.
You know exactly when thecamera is moving from one scene
to another and it's trying tohide its cuts.
Through editing you can tellexactly where the cuts are.
That takes me completely out ofthe action.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, it doesn't feel it doesn't flow naturally from
one moment to the next.
It's no, it's chopped and takesthe illusion away.
But the whole purposes of amovie because you want it, or at
least, yeah, that's the purposeof most movies, especially for
this one you want to create aflow.
That's editing, one-on-one.
You don't want to stop the flowfor the audience, and it did
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happen with this movie quite abit.
So that's on the editing side.
Perhaps on the DOP side as well, because I don't know, the
editor's only given certainfootage you can work with.
But from the filmmakingperspective that was
disappointing.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
That was disappointing because it's
Roadhouse.
You want the fight scenes tolook good.
You want to see Connor and JakeGyllenhaal go at it and be a
real down and dirty fight andinstead you get this CGI shit.
There was even a scene where,like this boat, this canoe from
the roof.
Why did that?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
get CGI'd?
I don't understand.
It's a.
I was working on a set of Thorand the whole building was set
on fire and exploded withexplosives and a car was
exploding.
It was all real explosive,fucking, horrible movie.
But at least that action wasreal.
Whatever can be made real, withall space monsters and
everything what can be made real, was made real.
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A canoe falling off the ceiling.
Why did that have to be CGI'd?
That is the cheapest trick youcould create, the cheapest
action you could create.
It's cheaper than a fuckingextra for the day.
Yeah, an extra for a day willcost you 700 bucks.
Making a canoe drop.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Look, I can do it for 50 bucks for you if you want
yeah, the canoe dropping wassomething where I was like that
could have been practical, somestuff.
I was like, okay, I canunderstand when cgi is used to
cut costs.
This movie was being releasedon streaming services instead of
in theaters.
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Maybe a lot of the budget wouldhave went to getting connor and
jake gyllenhaal.
I get that.
But there's still stuff whereyou say to yourself that could
have been done a better way.
It could have been done morepractical, because when you
watch the original Roadhouse,there's no CGI in it and
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everything looks glorious.
The blood and gall looks good.
The wounds, the fucking, thefacial, the wounds, the freaking
wounds.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I cut my finger earlier today at work and I had
more blood coming from a simplelittle cut on my thumb than
seven stab wounds on people.
How many times did Connor getstabbed?
I don't know.
Is that a spoiler?
Fuck, that's right.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Dalton gets stabbed.
Jake Gyllenhaal's character,dalton, gets stabbed.
Everybody gets stabbed andnobody actually bleeds properly.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
It doesn't make sense .
You get a stab in your kidneyguess what?
Blood is going to squirteverywhere.
You get stabbed in yourshoulders, in your chest, in
your leg, in everywhere.
Blood is going to come out,flying on every side of you.
I had more blood coming out ofmy thumb.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It doesn't make sense .
It's not only that, but whenyou get stabbed, there's usually
pain associated with that.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That you feel?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, and so this movie took one idea from the
original that Dalton doesn'tfeel pain.
But it's not true.
It's not that he doesn't feelpain, he just says, oh, pain
don't hurt.
It's fucking cheesy guys.
And he's saying it to thisnurse as she's stitching him up,
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right, yeah, but you can seethat he's hiding the pain, that
it's not really that paindoesn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
He's not invincible.
In the movie he gets beaten up.
Yeah, it's just the movie thisremake tries to make out like
Dalton's, just indestructible.
At one point In the firstcouple of minutes he gets
stabbed by someone and he has noreaction at all.
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The first time I watched it Iwas like, oh, he must have some
kind of jacket, something toprotect him, because he knows
that people are going to come upto him and stab him out of
frustration.
Right, for example, in theoriginal roadhouse, right,
dalton goes to this town.
He takes the job to be thebouncer.
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Right, he knows that when hegoes into this business he's
going to have to fire a wholebunch of staff because they're
going to be shit, like they'regoing to be stealing.
They're going to be not goodfighters or bouncers, stuff like
that.
So he knows I'm going to bestealing, they're going to be
not good fighters or bouncers,stuff like that.
So he knows I'm going to comeinto this bar fire.
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A whole bunch of people takeover, they're going to be pissed
and they're going to slash mytyres of my car.
So you see him have this reallyshitty car that he drives to
the bar because he knows that'sgoing to happen.
Yeah, he knows that his car isgoing to get the tyres slashed
and the car's going to getbeaten up.
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I like that.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I like that a lot.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, because you see , him be like he's got a really
nice Mercedes, I think, but yousee him go and buy a piece of
shit car, so why?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
does he have a?
Why does Patrick Swayze have avery beautiful mercedes but jake
gyllenhaal has a piece of shitcar?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
yeah, this is another big change from the original to
the remake and the original.
Patrick swayze is a fuckingbadass.
Like he's at the top of hisgame.
He is a top bouncer and thenthey made jake gyllenhaal.
It was like, oh, his ghost orhis trauma was.
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He used to be a big ufc fighterbut now he's washed up, he's
hit rock bottom all thatstereotypical shit.
Okay, look, I understand why,trying to make him more
relatable or vulnerable, becausein the original roadhouse one
of the things that probablywasn't done well is that dalton
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kind of has a trauma but it'svery vaguely talked about that
like he had some somerelationship with some woman who
was married or whatever.
Yeah, but it's so glossed overthere's barely any time given to
it.
It's an action, exactly,whereas in this they go full
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deep into.
He's sleeping in his fuckingcar.
He's winning these shittyfights by just just by appearing
, because people see that, oh,he's a former UFC fighter.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I like that, though I like his entrance of oh no,
fucking way, I'm not fuckingfighting this guy.
I liked it because, shit, I canexpect something from this guy,
like you don't know what yet,because I, like I said, I
haven't seen the original, soit's like cool, I know this guy
is going to be a good fighter,but I have no idea what to
(14:51):
expect from this guy.
Yeah, so I like theintroduction because it created,
like this, anticipation forwhat he's going to do next.
Yeah, without giving anythingaway of what he's going to do, I
like that.
But I do understand that ifyou're used to, if you've seen
the original and you're like Iwant to see this guy fight and
then he doesn't, it'sdisappointing.
I get that.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
The original does a similar thing, where it's
building the anticipation.
Like they're showing Dalton.
Everyone's like holy shit,that's Dalton.
Like everyone's talking moreabout Dalton and how awesome he
is, and they're building it upLike they don't just throw him
into a fight scene straight away.
He comes into the bar and thenhe's analyzing like what's wrong
(15:33):
with the bar, but he doesn'tfight at the end Not the first
time he comes into the barbecause he's just no, but is it?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So just a question For the original, that fight
sequence when he's against, hesteps into the ring and the
guy's like, no, I'm not going tofight this guy.
Yeah, in the remake.
In the remake, yeah, Is that inthe original as well?
No, the first time him everfighting is just in the bar.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, In the original yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, okay, cool Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Okay, back to it.
In the original, patrickSwayze's Dalton comes into the
bar.
You're just told oh fuck, he'sthe one.
You see the bar owner come toDalton and be like hey man, I
hear you're the best and he's no, I'm not the best.
Wade Garrett's the best.
He's, yeah, but Wade Garrett'sgetting old, so I want you, okay
(16:29):
, but do you see him in aleadership role, that he's
controlling all the bouncers andjust like directing them?
Yeah, because he knows how todo his job, gotcha, so you can
see a little bit of hispotential and that is awesome.
And it does build up to where,when he does get into a fight
(16:49):
scene, everyone's like holy shit, he just fucking.
Did you see that?
Similar to when JakeGyllenhaal's slapping all the
dudes?
Yeah, it's similar to thatwhere everyone sees it and
they're like fuck, did you seethat shit?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, that's the first shot, the first fighting
sequence.
Yeah, and the only thing Icould think of, do you know that
skit where the dad gets likeslap and he slaps everybody at
the barbecue.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I thought of that too .
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That has to be a joke on that.
It has to be.
Why slap?
I guess because he didn't wantto, like, really go for blood, I
know, but but it looks stupid,that looks so stupid and that
slap skit is old as and this wasmade after that slap skit.
They know that had the effecton viewers Because everybody has
(17:46):
seen that slap skit.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
But the slapping and the CGI shit on top of the fight
makes it look worse.
Yeah, yeah, I just didn't getthat.
There was no scene where I saidto myself, fuck, that felt Like
.
It felt like a fight scene,where there was like, when you
(18:09):
watch the original road house,like there is a lot of blood
there is a lot of fucking.
They had to compensate with thismovie, so they took all the
blood out but it's shit becauseit's like if you're to remake a
movie that was rated R back inthe 80s, bring the R rating back
(18:31):
, Bring all the blood and gore.
But not just that.
There's a scene in the originalRoadhouse where this monster
truck fucking destroys a wholecar lot.
And it's awesome because youcan see that it's real.
You see it all.
Just all the fucking windowsbreak and the cars get crushed
and it just looks awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I want to see that.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
See, I'm already selling you on the original.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
The other thing, the other problem I had with this
movie is it tries to makeeverything more complex than it
needs to be.
We can't just get straight up.
Okay, he's the bad guy.
Focus all your attention onthis being the bad guy.
Conor McGregor is hisright-hand man, which is
(19:20):
essentially what the originalRoadhouse was.
You had Brad Wesley.
He's 100% the villain.
You know that.
He's also intimidating.
He always has the leg up.
He plays the mind games.
He uses the town as his ownkind of personal fun place to
just fuck around, break the lawsand stuff like that.
(19:41):
Do whatever he wants.
He enjoys doing that shit.
He gets off on it.
You see the damage he inflictson the townspeople.
You want to see him get fuckedup.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You get to hate him, you love to hate him, kind of
thing.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You get to hate him, but he's also really fucking
entertaining.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, exactly To watch.
Well, that's good.
In this he was just an annoyingrich young prick.
He's just this annoying.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, typical young, fucking entitled kind of kid
that's been handed everything byhis dad.
You get told that his dad's injail and really his dad's the
mastermind, but you never get tosee his dad.
Yeah, so it just totallyundervalues him as the villain.
You're like, oh, I think thisguy's the villain, but I get the
(20:30):
sense that there's someone elsecoming, yeah, and then when
conor mcgregor comes in, you'relike, okay, maybe conor's gonna
be the actual, proper villain ofthis story, but he's not.
He's just like another henchmanthat's brought in but that takes
over too much as far as themarketing and and stuff goes, he
takes over a lot, but barely inthe movie yeah, but then he
(20:54):
takes over as the bad guy.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
It's like just because he's stronger does not
mean he has to be the actual,the actual villain.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
It's still and the rich family brand.
Right, there's all thisconflict between this rich young
kid I don't even remember thefucker's name, that just goes to
show Brand Brand.
I don't know why I couldn't justkeep the name of the guy from
the original.
This would have made it so mucheasier.
But anyway, brand Brad Wesley2.0, whatever.
(21:22):
This guy then ends up inconflict with Conor mcgregor's
character, nox, being like oh,like, what the fuck is wrong
with you?
I can't control this guy.
Like my dad hired this guy andnow I need to try and tame him
and it's just so boring andmakes it more complicated than
(21:43):
it needs to be.
When all you had to do was havethe crooked cop, he could have
been the villain.
Just say this crooked cop runsthis town and uses it to like
peddle drugs and shit like that,yeah.
And he doesn't like theroadhouse because they don't pay
him for protection, so he getshis guys in there to fuck it up
(22:08):
yeah.
And then you have the owner ofRoadhouse hire Dalton to be like
I need you to fix the place up.
The thing that I don't like isall the interesting stuff from
the original Roadhouse getschanged and put in place is
(22:29):
something dull and boring.
It's the same with the colourgrading.
Like the colours of theoriginal Roadhouse, it's bright.
It represents that bright kindof neon lights that you would
associate with bars, yeah,whereas in this.
The only brightness I saw iswhen the Roadhouse title card
(22:50):
showed up in the movie.
The rest of it is like all thisdesaturated shit, murky colours
and there's no vibrancy in it.
It's not fun to look at, it'sjust reality.
You want to see escapism.
(23:11):
You want to escape in thebright, colourful world of this
of Roadhouse, and you don't getthat here.
The other thing is in theoriginal Roadhouse you actually
get to see the bar evolve and gofrom like a real shithole to oh
(23:32):
, now it's starting to get morepeople, it's becoming more
successful.
The bouncer stuff there's moreof them.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
It's a storyline, but how do they dare to include
something like that?
Because that's a storyline thatactually makes sense.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, they don't do that here.
Why would they in this?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
we don't get a sense of it's real shithole.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
No, it's beautiful bar say from the beginning, even
though it gets hammered andcrushed and destroyed every
night.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's still a beautiful bar.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's like they were afraid to make it look shit.
Yeah, whereas in the original,straight away, they establish
that not only is the bar fuckedand it attracts horrible guests
bikers, whatever that startfights, but there's the staff
(24:26):
that are stealing money.
There's staff members that fuckoff during their break and fuck
people when they should beserving, like that's pretty
normal.
Yeah, yeah, that's true, still,yeah, and he used to work in a
bar so he can attest to this.
Ah, and the other cool thing isseeing Dalton fire the staff and
(24:50):
they get pissed off and thestaff that he fires from the bar
end up siding with the villain.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
As if to say fuck him , I'm going to take him down now
.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's awesome.
That's like a character arc forthe shitty side characters.
Yeah, it's a cool character arcCool.
I understand that it's awesome.
That's like a character arc forthe shitty side characters.
Yeah, it's a cool character arcCool.
I understand that.
I get it.
I get it Like Peter should livethe shit out of him, but I get
it Now, just now.
It's too PC Too nice.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I don't know if it was too PC, not PC Too nice.
It was too correct, they didanother aspect of Dalton's
character in the original is benice, right.
Yeah, he's nice to a point he'snice in the confines of the bar
.
When he's working in the bar,yeah, he says to the guys we
(25:45):
have rules, be nice, yeah, he'sworking in the bar, yeah, he
says to the guys we have rules,be nice, yeah.
And then the staff are like,really what, I'm gonna be nice
even if a bar staff, uh, I'mgonna be nice even if a customer
calls me a cocksucker and he'syeah, you're gonna be nice, but
really, yeah, it's just a phraseor word used to elicit a
(26:08):
response, so you just be nice.
And then he says, in regards tofights, you never fight in the
bar, you take it outside, whichthey completely ignore in this
movie oh yeah, completely.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
The whole bar gets destroyed every night fucking
all of it.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
They completely ignore all the rules that Dalton
follows.
That makes him unique andinteresting, and instead he
beats the shit out of five guysand then decides he's going to
drive them to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I like that.
I thought that was actuallyreally fucking funny.
That's the thing Stupid, it isdumb, it's stupid, it's not very
justified, but I didn't mind itbecause it was fun.
It's just like cool.
Okay, it makes this guy reallylikable and it really shames the
bad guys.
It really puts them in placeand I like that because it's
(27:01):
funny.
But yeah, it's weird.
I'm not sure if it's in place.
I'd made it more of a comedythan anything.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
But yeah, that's what I felt.
I felt this movie was more of acomedy.
I felt it was trying too hardto be more of a comedy than an
action movie, whereas theoriginal is more of an action
movie, with some really funnymoments, comedic moments that
are also memorable.
I can quote the original.
(27:32):
I can't remember a single quotefrom that movie.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You might not be the hero, but you're not the villain
either.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I only remember that because I said to you that's a
shit line and I was like, pleasedon't tell me the movie is
going to end on such a shit line.
And it did, it did.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
All right, so tell me , Michael, out of five stars,
what would you give it?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Overall, roadhouse 2024 is a predictable, by the
numbers remake that for somereason, completely changes all
the things that were good aboutthe original and then changes
all the things that for noreason.
Just to make it morecomplicated.
It complicates the story, dragsout the runtime and pads it
(28:24):
with all these unnecessaryscenes, slows down the pacing
and is just a forgettable remakethat you'll watch and you'll
forget about completely.
The only great thing about thismovie is that it could be the
start of something for conormcgregor.
Whether or not that's a goodthing or a bad thing, we we'll
have to wait and see.
(28:44):
There's one thing I learnedfrom this is cut down on Conor
McGregor's dialogue.
They should go the Batistaroute Batista who actually can
act, though he was in a JamesBond movie where he didn't say
anything.
Oh really, yeah, I didn't knowthat, but he was like playing a
henchman.
(29:04):
That's what they should havehad Conor McGregor do in this
movie Just be the henchman thatjust sits there, looks like a
threat and kicks ass.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
It was great with his physique, like the fighting
sequences, his presence,physically Brilliant.
He opens his mouth and it'sjust shit.
And then he yeah, it's just,and then also just.
His voice just does not matchhis physique.
He has a very high voice, yeah,but he should have a very low
(29:34):
voice for someone yeah, highirish accent high irish accent
it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You do nothing, you do nothing and I can't take it
serious.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
And then he's like smiling all the time he went in
and out of accent.
He went sometimes to like anAmerican accent for whatever
reason.
You didn't notice.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I don't know.
He's just got to play rolesthat don't have a lot of
dialogue.
That's all I put it down to.
You've got to protect theseguys because you know that their
acting experience isn't there.
They're purely there for theirstar power, based on shit
they've done in other movies andstuff.
Connor is a good talker in theconfines of ufc, but not not in
(30:18):
this context.
So just minimize his dialogueand then see how he goes.
Let his physical presence tellthe story, because there was a
lot of dialogue where I was like, oh man, if they had just cut,
just trimmed a little bit off,he could have kept his mystique
and his intensity the.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
The writing was pretty on the nose at points.
Yeah, they should have just cuthis lines a lot.
Yeah, but also for othercharacters they could have cut
so much dialogue.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And Rambo.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Stallone as Rambo.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So like the first Rambo movie, right Stallone said
there was all this cringydialogue, mm-hmm, and he said he
crossed out like 80% of thedialogue and the movie's amazing
, one of the best action moviesof all time.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Stallone can't really talk anyway.
Better that he didn't talk.
I disagree.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I think that Stallone , when he has the right story,
especially in the Rocky movies,he can talk.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, have you seen Copland Copland?
No, I haven't seen Copland.
I can watch Copland Copland.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
No, I haven't seen Copland fucking watch Copland,
robert De Niro, stallone, rayLiotta as well.
Copland, okay, but but anyway,the point is, yes, he took all
this dialogue out and Rainbowwas able to convey a lot through
just his physical presence.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
He didn't have.
He didn't need dialogue.
Yeah, dialogue is such a smallpercentage of information that
comes across.
You can give so much moreinformation.
Just shut your mouth and have acool camera angle.
That's all you need A thoughtshot in the eye with the right
lighting, with the right kind ofsound, and keep your mouth shut
.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
That dialogue is overrated and I'm thinking about
it now and I'm like that scenecould have been really powerful
if Connor didn't say that line.
Let's put it on mute for asecond.
Yeah, if you put it on mute andjust watch him, oh, you're like
fuck, no, that would be cool.
But yeah, they just give himway too much, way too much
(32:24):
talking.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
One out of five stars .
Zero out of five stars.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I'll give it two out of five stars for Jake
Gyllenhaal.
I think that I know he's somuch better than this.
I know he's a great actor.
I've seen him in Nightcrawler.
I've seen him in Prisoners andI know he's so much better than
this.
I know he's a great actor.
I've seen him in Nightcrawler,I've seen him in Prisoners and I
know he's amazing.
(32:50):
You can see him like reallytrying to salvage this.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But it just.
They made his character a verynumb character, yeah, which
doesn't give him a lot.
Nah, so two out of five, notbad, yeah, I'm going to go with
two out of five.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, this is definitely in the category of
remakes you should avoid, but itdoes make me want to go see the
original, especially now that Ijust watched this.
As a palate cleanser, to justrefresh After eating a really
shitty meal and you just want tohave a nice piece of dessert to
(33:30):
just be like all right, makingme hungry now cleanse the taste
buds, get rid of the shit.
Could have some ice cream athome now.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, cool, I thought I thought the comedy was really
good.
I thought the fight sequenceswere decent, but the camera
angles and the transitions andthe camera movements ruined the
whole thing.
Some of the acting from some ofthe characters was very average
(34:00):
.
Some of them felt like NPCs.
Oh, that little girl.
The little girl felt like annpc.
Um, ellie felt like an npc attimes the love interest yeah, I
didn't like her acting at all.
She was terrible in the firsthalf and terrible in the second
half.
(34:20):
Actually it was pretty bad.
So she was just terrible.
It was just pretty, prettyfucking bad.
I thought a lot of what she didwas on the nose.
I'm not sure if it's that theactress's choice.
Remember her name?
Do you remember her name?
I don't remember if it was herchoice or if it's a directing
choice, but you could straightoff the bat.
(34:43):
She gave away that she wassexually interested in this guy.
That's like that with a stabwound that doesn't cry like a
bitch.
So she's sexually interested inthat straight away.
And I don't know if she gavemore attitude and be more
distant from it, it would havebeen so much more interesting,
because then you want them tohook up.
But if she already gives awayfrom the beginning, it's like
nah, stay away from her, she's aslut.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
It just became that whole thing of wow, she's like
really forward with him, yeah,and he's not giving her anything
at all.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, it took away the magic.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
In the original Roadhouse you actually see them
come together.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
You don't ever see that in this.
No, the second they meet, she'salready with a foot in the door
.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
she's already there but like, even when there is
something there and they start,it starts to spark.
In the original it was allabout he had this relationship
not work out, so he didn't wantto get hurt again, yeah.
So there was like a lot of oh Idon't know if I should move on
(35:51):
and then you felt like this guywas finally opening up, yeah,
like you could see that he wastrying not to get involved with
her.
And then he got emotional.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yes, with this one they have a different arc.
Because he was saying in amoment where they were sitting
like in that shallow water witha beer, you don't want to get to
know me.
As soon as she was askingpersonal questions he stood up
and he was like can we go?
You don't want to know me.
So he had that kind of becauseof his ghost, because of he
killed his friend in the ring.
Um, he didn't want anybody toknow who he really is.
(36:27):
He couldn't accept himself forwho he really is because he has
anger issues that when it getstoo far he can't control himself
, which he learns to embrace atthe end.
But they gave him that arcinstead and they just did not
flesh it out past that point.
It was disappointing Characterarc from that perspective of why
he couldn't commit to arelationship.
(36:48):
It goes, left hangingunresolved.
He didn't deal with it.
She never asked him any otherquestions, he never talked about
anything else.
It was just that's it.
And then they yeah, they madeout and then next time you saw
her she was coming to the bar toto treat some people, and the
next time she was abduct, shewas coming to the bar to treat
some people and the next timeshe was abducted in a boat and
(37:08):
then that's it.
That's the end.
So that arc, that relationshipbuild up, never got resolved,
got set up poorly and then noteven paid off.
So that's a waste of acharacter.
She was not even needed in thisfilm.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah you didn't need her, because there was no
passion in anything thathappened either.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Zero.
So with that, with this veryshitty CGI, I would give the
movie still, because I like theflow of it.
I would say three and a halfstars.
But I was made a promise withFamily Guy Roadhouse Round Kick
and did not get delivered, soI'm going to reduce it to three
stars.
I was waiting for a roundhousekick.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
And for him to look at the camera and say Roadhouse.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Not necessarily that much, but I was like Roadhouse,
but I was waiting for the FamilyGuy, the classic Peter Griffin
roadhouse kick.
Did that happen in the original?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, he kicks the shit out of heaps of dudes.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Why did they not do the freaking roadhouse kick?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Dude, he fucking rips a guy's throat out, fucking
hell.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I'm going to watch the original.
This sounds too good.
It's fucking sick.
All right, ripping throats out.
I want that roundhouse kick.
Anyway, I'm reducing mine to athree stars because I did not
get delivered on what waspromised disappointing yep, all
right.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
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