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Edit (00:00):
We are living in a world
where you get triggered all the
time.
Because the Reiki energyhealing, I'm looking at it as a
quick fix, which means it'stemporary, can manage your
situation, but it's not gonnalike completely stop my panic
attacks.
Why is it so important to findthe route is to stop the
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triggers.
You need to know your body.
Why is it happening?
This is not just about thisphysical body, but we have so
many layers to deal with.
Somehow their issues or theirtriggers or their current
situations were all connected topast life trauma.
When there is lack of sleep,your anxiety and panic attacks
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sneaks in much faster.
When you are anxious about somenew things, then you can shift
it easily to excitement.
Jennica (00:57):
Welcome to
Multispective.
I'm so excited to have youhere.
Thank you so much.
I'm also excited.
This is a really interestingtopic, the topic of anxiety, and
I think it stems from so manydifferent various things, from
technology to social media torelationships to families.
So I definitely would love to,you know, delve into what
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anxiety looked like andmanifested for you and then the
ways and the form of healingthat you'd explored.
Well, I'm
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from Hungary.
It's a It used to be like asocial communist country.
I realized this difference inthat country growing up and with
other people around the worldthat we were not really allowed
to follow religions when I was achild.
So I had zero connection withGod or divine.
And when I became a teenager,that's when I started to look
for different religions.
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You know, I was reading aboutBuddhism, Taoism, Christian,
Christian, Catholic andHinduism.
So I was looking at into themand I started to open my eyes
into like what is of there orwhat is possible and then I
started to travel a lot alone todifferent countries and it was
also opened my eyes more to likehow many ways people connect
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with each other and with thedivine and how important is for
them you know and growing upwithout it it was really strange
to see that and I started tohave like dreams about it and I
was even thinking to getbaptized because I had the dream
to going to heaven and someonegave me a Christ you know and
then I was reading the Bible inthe heaven and stuff like that
so then I was like okay Iprobably I should get baptized
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and then I started to learncertain prayers preparing for
the day and but then suddenly Igot accepted to a very great
company to work that was myfirst job and then they said
that day I need to fly to Paristo sign my contract and start
working and I was like okay Ineed to take that job and so I
didn't get baptized but thething is it still stayed with me
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that prayers and that how toconnect to the divine why is it
so interesting is because laterI When I experienced my first
panic attacks and that was thekind of like the results of an
anxiety attack, I didn't evenknow what was going on with me,
what is happening.
I just felt weak, I just feltout of control, I just felt fear
and that anxiety and eventuallyI got to a doctor and they gave
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me a pill, you know, and then Igot anxious about the pill
because the pill made me sorelaxed that I was falling
asleep and then I felt againthat I'm losing control and I
didn't like that feeling.
So this was like a struggle atthat time and then I was
actually in a different countryso when I flew back to Hungary I
started to read about it moreand explore like more natural
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remedies and that's how I cameto Reiki and then I started to
learn how to do Reiki healinghow to step into those energies
and that's when I had to startconnect with the divine really
and I was first did you know howto do that how to invoke the
light how to talk to source andthen I was like you know what
I'm just gonna talk as I do theChristian practice prayer so I
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actually prayed to God to sourceand then to bring in the light
and that's what I do until nowit was like more than 20 years
ago but somehow it stick with methat kind of connection and so
Reiki I started with Reiki andthe Reiki master was also doing
family constellation therapiesand extra sense retreats so this
was kind of became my sanctuarymy hobby while I was an
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engineer for 15 years so I wasdoing my engineering work I had
my two children I had my partnerwe had like from outside we had
a normal life you know we had asuccessful career successful
life from outside we lookedreally happy and great and we
had you know our vacationsabroad and money for everything
but then I was suffering frominside and I was still suffering
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from my panic attacks once in awhile because the Reiki energy
healing I'm looking at it as aquick fix which means it's
temporary can manage yoursituation but it's not gonna
like completely stop it you knowso that what was going on and
then I even became a Reikimaster and then I thought like
okay I am on the top of myspiritual growth I wasn't really
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looking for more modalities atthat time but I knew it's
probably I can just managethings you know there are
certain things you can't reallyheal from you need to carry it
for the rest of your life youknow whatever sometimes you
believe what you read and thenwhat happened I got introduced
to Karma Yoga Healing and thatwas a really shock because it
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changed my perspective abouthealing it it's like basically
everything is temporary you canstop things and you can heal
from things which even peoplesay you are unable to heal from
it's just you need to go througha certain tools you know
certain techniques and then it'spossible and that's how I
actually was able to have thedeep awareness and connect the
dots and then go deeper and findlike yes it's possible we just
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need to allow ourselves reallyto embody our multi-dimensional
existence and understand thatthis is not just about this
physical body but We have somany layers to deal with.
Jennica (06:00):
When you first started
experiencing the anxiety, did
you ever go through other thanlike spiritual related healing
modalities?
You mentioned that you read alot of books about anxiety, but
did you ever try to figure outlike what may have been the
ultimate cause of that and theroot cause of that for you in
particular?
Was it related to yourchildhood?
Was it related to yourenvironment?
You
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know, it's interesting
because when I had these panic
attacks, I was again in mostlyin Hungary when these attacks
happened.
And it wasn't the custom like,OK, I send you to a therapist
now or it wasn't the custom totalk about like you know it was
15 years ago it was just liketake a pill kind of way it was
always take a pill or just chillor just take a vacation or that
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was it kind of you know so Iremember even when I had a
depression and I didn't know Ihad depression it was in my
after my two years working inthe same job and then it was
just like physically exhaustingwe were doing like night shifts
and hard work and I actually gota vacation but the first day of
the vacation I went to thedoctor and I said oh maybe I
have some thyroid issues becauseI'm so fatigued and then I'm so
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tired and then as I wasexplaining it to the doctor I
was kind of crying and shelooked at me and she was like no
you don't have any thyroidissues you are depressed you
need to take a vacation and Iwas like okay I just started my
vacation and she was like okaythen I give you some pills and
then just chill you know and soI went on vacation and then
eventually I left a job but thenI couple of months later I
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started a new work but in thosecouple of months I was doing
exercise I was in eating morehealthy and then I was chilling
I had no responsibility I didnothing just had a break and
it's really good to get rid ofthose depression basically it's
one of like setting boundariestaking yourself out of the
situations which causing youthose things but what I realized
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during these years of healingactually since karma yoga
healing especially since 2018but I had to work together with
my body and I had to have theawareness of like why I am
feeling this way what is thetrigger what's causing this is
because you don't really knowconsciously you can't really get
all the memories or all theroots it's really difficult
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that's what I also learned it'smore about okay what is
triggering me and why I'mgetting that amplified reaction
or that strong reaction and thatalso related to your physical
health and then of course yourmindset so it's like mindfulness
and physical health is reallyimportant to be able to tackle
the triggers Mm-hmm.
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from there so most of them theysaid for example when I do
these healings like oh my god Ihaven't thought about this
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memory for so many years it'snot like because they have
flashbacks or it's not likesomething is so present in their
awareness it's deeply buriedand then some of them are not
even traumatizing experience butin that moment it actually
created some negative emotionsso to make sure that the trigger
stops and then you're notgetting into circumstances and
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situations and really bring thesolution into your life, then
you do the healing from thecore.
But to manage and to make itsmoother or make it, how can I
say, coping it better, that'swhen it comes to the exercise,
the better sleep, the betterdiet.
I still have clients who'shaving anxiety and I'm asking
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her, have you had coffee today?
And then they said, yes.
I was like, you shouldn't drinkcoffee if you are anxious or
you have anxiety on a if youreally want to change, you know,
like getting rid of thingswhich is amplifying this, like
caffeine, alcohol, even theyfind relation between gluten and
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mental health.
So even the gluten amplifyingthe reactions.
So there are so many things wecan cut and sugar, of course,
everybody knows that sugar islike driving you crazy.
So if you, for example, justskip those bakeries, skip those
corner cafes, you're going tofeel much better already.
Jennica (10:28):
That's true.
For you in particular in yoursituation did you look at those
triggers were you able to findpatterns in those triggers for
yourself to be like okay I canpinpoint it's exactly this
because every time I take this Ifeel this way what were those
things for you in particularabsolutely for
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me the triggers for my
panic attacks was always some
physical discomfort and it wasfunny because I then talked
about with my mom and then Irealized she went through
similar things I was like oh mygod it's so crazy she had this
same physical symptoms and itbrought her to the same kind of
like panicky situations and nowmy daughter is actually telling
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similar things but we adjust thehabits is really important
again and the mindset that whyyou get actually anxious why you
get actually panic attacksbecause you don't trust because
you feel not good enough becauseyou have low self-esteem
because you scared or you areout of control what can you
control you can control yourthoughts you can control And you
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can control your actions if youare mindful, if you know how to
do that.
I know I'm healthy.
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This pain or this discomfort isnothing.
It's just I'm making like, youknow, elephant from the ants.
Everybody needs to know theirown body.
So take time to understand yourbody, how it behaves, why
you're feeling certain things,to sit and actually understand
your body.
Because when you understandyour body and then your
reactions, then you will be morein
Jennica (12:21):
control and more in
peace.
Yeah.
I know you mentioned that youwere married, you had kids, you
had a good job on the outset,everything was looking good.
But did it...
at any point actually hinderyour day-to-day life?
Did you find yourself havingdifficulty maintaining
relationships or jobs oranything at any point in your
life?
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So when I had the, for
example, panic attacks, it was
like maybe every couple ofmonths, like I would say twice a
year or three times a year.
But they were always, as Isaid, connected with some
physical symptoms.
And then I figured out that,oh, I'm having this
out-of-control situation andthis panicky because I'm
actually having a vibe infectionbut it has no other symptoms
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like I haven't had a throat acheI haven't had nothing else just
I felt completely weak like youknow when you have a flu
fatigue I felt extremely weakand fatigue and tired like
fainting and that created thepanic attacks and then I a
couple of hours later or nextday suddenly I had the throat
ache everything which is a flusyndrome but it started with the
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weakness and then because Icouldn't connect it it created
the panic so that why I explainlike you need to know your body
why is it happening whatprobably I haven't slept well
probably I was drinking too muchcoffee and what I realized also
with the caffeine is not justbringing you up all the time
what it does is bring you up anddrop you down
Jennica (13:44):
down yeah
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so then it went down
that's when I felt terrible you
know when I felt weak and out ofcontrol and if you have also a
flu mixed with that then youfeel like oh my god I'm gonna
faint so then I start panickingand then it's even get worse so
that in those situations Iactually left job I mean left
the work I went home resting oreven called the ambulance I
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never really I never calledambulance to my job I always
tried to get home first figuringout and then calling ambulance
from there so but of course Iwas on sick leave you know for a
while there was a point when Iwas working abroad for a company
a very big company and I had mykids really small but it was a
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lot of stress at work and it wasa It's a great, I was really
grateful for that job because Ilearned a lot, but it was very
stressful as well.
And I was in sick leave nearlyevery second or third week, but
for like a couple of days.
And one day my colleague waslooking at me and said, this is
not the time you should go forsick leave or something.
He tried to be joking, youknow, but I was like, oh my God,
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you are so mean.
Because we had so much stressand so much work.
And I also learned and heardfrom other mentors as well that
when you have the flu or cold isbasically just a sign you need
really rest you overworked oryou over did something like you
too hustled too much you need totake a rest that's why you have
the cold or the flu all theother things all the other
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diseases like cancer and heartattack or stroke or whatever
other issues they are morerelated to the buried emotional
traumas from which is happenedto you maybe in childhood or
past life but the flu and thecold is the one which is a sign
that you need rest
Jennica (15:25):
I just want to also
kind of just highlight this to
listeners because this is reallygood guidance to be able to
hear this, because typicallywhen you look online, symptoms
or signs of panic attacks,there's certain kinds of
symptoms that are typicallyfound online.
But the truth is, it doesn'talways have to look the same.
And if I'm presenting thesesymptoms, I have anxiety.
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If I'm not, then it's notanxiety.
And then you go through thiswhole round motion of trying to
figure out what it is.
But sometimes it can look justreally different for people.
So I'm Yeah, I
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believe that you can have
anxiety on a daily basis if you
are, for example, going out ofyour comfort zone, you know, you
have to start something new oryou are asked to do something
which you are not comfortable,you already can have a bit of
anxiety.
Like, I always say that whenyou are anxious about some new
things, and then you can shiftit easily to excitement, because
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just look into it like, oh,maybe you are anxious because
you need to speak to someoneelse.
in front of the board or go ona stage or you know like singers
they still say they are a bitanxious before they go on stage
and stuff it's like how to dealwith that anxiety is just good
preparation and have a greatself-esteem you know having that
confidence is really importantand the preparation is really
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important because then you knowI'm a master of this thing I'm
not gonna make mistakes and evenif I'm gonna make mistakes
they're gonna love me and it'sjust gonna have maybe a good
marketing or whatever so havingthat mindset again is really
powerful and heal those limitingbeliefs about yourself yourself
because it's the solar plexusenergy, like with the chakras,
with the energy centers.
So it's a solar plexus blockagewhen you have a low self-esteem
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and healing that is reallyimportant to bring the
confidence.
So that's going to be alreadycut out the anxieties of this
kind of anxiety.
There is another kind ofanxiety, which is easily jumps
into panic attacks.
And that is which comes fromexhaustion, physical exhaustion,
for example, not having enoughiron, magnesium, vitamin B,
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whatever needs your body toproperly function.
You know, I realized many timesthat when there is lack of
sleep, your anxiety and panicattacks is sneaks in much
faster.
When is lack of vitamin B oriron, I realized that I have to,
I need a daily iron supplementbasically to keep myself really
healthy because when I don't dothat, the exhaustion is coming
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much faster.
So I realized someone came tome with panic attacks and then I
was like, okay, I help you in30 days to get back to life.
But you deal with mentallybecause I've done it so many
times and then people come to mewith depression and in four
weeks they are smiling andempowered and they just ready to
go so this girl came to me withpanic attack and first we
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couldn't even start going deepbecause she was so panicky
crying devastating you knowfeeling really bad so we had to
start with the Reiki healingfirst raising her vibration
putting her in a more peacefulmindset before we even could go
into the meditation and thehealing process And of course, I
also taught her to start takingvitamin B, magnesium, iron,
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because I found out that she wasvegetarian for a long time.
So she didn't pay attention howto mitigate, you know, if she
has a lack because of not eatingmeat or like protein or iron
was missing from her system.
So it's really important,especially for women to take
care of the iron level.
We need like 16 milligrams irona day.
And you need that to functionwell and not having anxiety,
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especially because we are livingin a world where you you get
triggered all the time.
It's the news, it's thecaffeine, it's the alcohol, it's
the stressful living, thestressful work.
All of this is just making itworse.
So setting boundaries, knowinglike what is your limit as well
is really important.
And then they also say thatwhen you feel fatigue and then
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you feel like tired is notreally your body is tired, is
your soul is tired because youare not fulfilled or happy in
what you do.
So because probably you knowthat if you do something what
you're excited about andpassionate about, you can work
hours and hours and you don'tfeel tired you are just so you
are in the flow and you'reexcited but if something you
need to do you don't like thenit's tiring you more and making
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you more exhausted so it's alsoagain about purpose and then
feeling great about fulfillmentcontentment what you can feel so
when going back to the clientso we did the Reiki first and
then we also watched her dietlike what to eat and drink and
then we went into the deephealing whatever caused the
panic attacks in her case forexample One of the memory we
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heard was a childhood memorywhen she was inside and she was
with the grandparents and thegrandparents was watching
something in the TV and shewanted to go outside to play,
but they didn't go with her.
They didn't let her to go outbecause they were watching
something on the TV, you know,so she felt limited.
She felt misunderstood.
She felt unsupported.
She felt bored or sad.
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All of these negative emotionsand that created a trauma and
buried in the unconscious mind.
And then later it got triggeredwhen COVID happened.
she can't go outside she had tobe inside she was limited again
and then felt that same similaremotions and then it got again
triggered later when it became apanic attacks on the third time
when she went started heruniversity and went into a new
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country and then a dormitory toleave and so on so forth so and
then she experienced again thesame emotions so what happening
is that when you have a traumayou're gonna be triggered with
the similar situations as apattern until you don't release
the core so you need to releasethe core what does it mean
releasing letting it go how canyou let go something what
happened to you is byforgiveness but not just
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forgiving to yourself or to theothers but to yourself as well
and to the others as well soboth has to be done in that
memory and that's how you closeit or let it go and then it's
kind of lesson learned so you'renot getting a new cycle so then
the trigger stops so it's notyou don't need to firefight
anymore because there is no moretriggers you just have a smooth
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cycle
Jennica (21:28):
It sounds very easy,
much easier said than done.
I can imagine it would be awhole process because our bodies
and our mind have been buildingthis same kind of mindset, the
same narrative, the sametriggers, the same trauma for so
many years.
So if it's taken so many yearsto build it, it would probably
take years to kind of undo it aswell.
So this is why I want to giveyou the chance to explain it a
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little bit in more detail.
Can we start with the Reiki?
How does that work?
What is it?
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Yeah, so Reiki is one of
the energy healing modality, I
think the most known.
So people like to use Reikienergy healing to balance their
energy body, their chakras,because what's happening is when
you get triggered and you reactwith negative emotions, you
block your energy centers.
And with the Reiki, what'shappening with the energy
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healing is raising thevibration, the frequency of the
body to the frequency of theuniverse in a higher vibration.
So what does it mean frequencyin this case?
So emotions have also...
for example anger is a lowvibrational emotion and bliss
and joy and happiness is a highvibrational emotion and
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enlightenment is a highvibrational situation emotion so
basically when you are in areiki healing process is raising
your vibration to the pointthat the body also can self heal
itself because it's vibratingwith the energy of the universe
with the frequency of theuniverse so it starts healing
itself you know and then as soonas you get a away from this
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Reiki healing and as soon as youstart thinking negatively and
having negative emotions you'reruining it back again you're
blocking it back again so that'swhy my Reiki master always said
that I also need to talk to youto change your mindset not to
ruining back the healing byagain thinking negative and
having negative assumptions andfeeling bad about it so that's
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why it's like at least threesessions is recommended like
three Reiki sessions within likelike every two days but it's
still a quick fix.
If you want like really longlasting results with an energy
healing that needs to be donefor several months constantly,
continuously and then it's goingto shift huge things in your
body but it needs to be a longperiod of time.
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That's why the source memoryhealing and karma yoga healing
is so different because that'sgoing deep while also doing the
thing what Reiki is doingbecause with the samadhi
meditation which is starting theprocess with, we clear the
chakras and we connect to thedivine and we bring in the light
and we activate the pinealgland.
So we get into transcendentalstate when you actually start
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vibrating with the frequency ofthe universe.
So you're already doing acellular healing within 15
minutes as you reach thatbrainwaves.
And after that, we connect withthe unconscious mind to
release.
Jennica (24:19):
Okay, this is really
interesting.
Now, with the Reiki healing,what is the science behind it?
And for example, dopaminereleasing or certain hormones?
Would you be able to do a scanto say like after a Reiki
healing session that your brainactually, there are some
neurological changes happeningin your brain as well?
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It's interesting.
What they do usually afterReiki healing is like aura
check, for example, like how isyour aura?
Because the aura is also theextension of your chakras, your
energy body.
So it's an energy body canrepresent more like what
happened in your body afterReiki healing, like the chakras
are more vibrant, know theprana, energy is flowing through
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better so basically your bodyis energized better with the
hormonal production so we needto understand that the chakras
are actually perfectly alignedwith your gland system actually
wherever is a chakra there is agland which producing the
hormones so when you clear thechakras you bring that gland
back to the healthier stateright when the chakra is blocked
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for a long time then the glandcan be sick and start under or
overproducing.
Like, for example, the thyroid.
Many people are suffering withthyroid issues.
The thyroid is with the throatchakra.
The throat chakra representsspeaking up your truth or
speaking up for yourself.
Many people who feel like underpressure, judged, criticized,
want to keep the peace, so theykeep themselves quiet, you know,
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or introvert.
Those people are mostly who'sexperiencing these thyroid
issues.
Then they start taking thosemedications for the rest of
their life to fix that.
So basically, the throat chakrais is if it's blocked, it's
affecting the thyroid.
Also, the third eye chakra isconnected with your pineal
gland, which is one of the mostimportant to activate is because
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when you activate the pinealgland, you start to produce the
melatonin, serotonin, oxytocingrowth hormone.
So what it makes to you is likeyou have a better sleep, you
have a better mood, you have amore vital body, and also you
are becoming a much more kinderperson because of the oxytocin.
So only people who only startpracticing Samadhi meditation,
they already feel the change intheir behavior and in their
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reactions how they respond fortriggers and people around them
recognize that and say oh youyou changed you know you're
getting better you are a nicerperson now i had people who
reported this back to me
Jennica (26:42):
would you generally
like in the process of your
healing of your clients do youusually do start with the reiki
first and then you move on tothe samadhi does can they go
hand in hand side by side
Edit (26:52):
no actually i don't use
energy healing or reiki healing
in my with my clients only ifit's really necessary Like with
this girl, it was like no otherway because she was so in a bad
situation.
So I had to send her Reiki.
And I had another client who,for example, had an accident
when she was already my VIPclient for many months and she
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suddenly had an accident.
So I was like, okay, I'm goingto send you a couple of Reiki
now just, you know, for yourfeeling better or to recover
faster.
Because obviously when you hadan accident, you don't really do
sessions long, you know, then Ireplaced those sessions with
Reiki.
So these are really uniquesituations.
So I myself, I don't reallyprovide Reiki healings to
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people.
I do mostly the meditation andbecause those are the
sustainable tools, you know,these are the ones who's gentle
and fast and bring
Jennica (27:42):
sustainable results.
Now, tell me a little bit moreabout this Samadhi meditation.
Is it the same astranscendental meditation?
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So transcendent, you can
transcend through different
meditations.
And I heard stories when thereis mentors who doing teachings
in transcend and then they askthe client or the student to to
speak mantras and then they justsay those mantras over and over
again and they transcend yeahthis is not that this is a
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different thing okay so this issamadhi meditation which is one
of the effect of this meditationis to transcend so this is an
adi yogi shiva technique 60 000years old from kashmir shivaism
so how they do this is basicallythe main point here is act the
AIDS chakra and activating thepineal gland.
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That's what is the goal.
Somehow their issues or theirtriggers or their current
situations were all connected topast life traumas.
And that's why we need toactivate the AIDS chakra.
And the pineal gland activationis important to transcend and
then to start producing thosehormones and also to connect
with the unconscious mind andalso with the family
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unconscious.
Because if we want to healancestral karma or ancestral
trauma, we need to step into thefamilial unconscious and for
that we also need to transcend.
Jennica (29:02):
Could it possibly be
like that the person's not ready
to accept or to hear or findout what was the thing that
caused all of this in the firstplace?
You know, do you have to have acertain readiness?
Would you recommend having aprofessional around to kind of
help you process through thattrauma?
Or is it something that willonly come to you when your body
and your mind is ready to acceptit?
Edit (29:24):
So sometimes people coming
to me and they say, oh, you
know, I tried everything.
I went to speaking therapy forseven years.
I did hypnosis.
But then, you know, I stillbothered when that person is
around me.
I still have the fear, right?
Because what this speakingtherapy does or what this normal
therapy thing does is likebringing up the awareness,
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right?
It's making you think moreabout it.
Like, okay, what could happenor what was it or why is it
happening?
So it's like bringing intoawareness those pain or those
situations or those flashbacks.
And if it's bring up into yourconsciousness and you don't know
how to release it properly orheal it properly, it's actually
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causing more disturbance in yoursituation.
I even heard people that theystarted to go speaking therapy
and then they got suicidalbecause it was always constantly
in their awareness, you know.
So when I actually deal with myclients, what we do, okay,
what's your current situation?
How do you feel right now?
What is your trigger?
Maybe the trigger is socialanxiety.
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Maybe the trigger is I amscared to go on stage to speak
or maybe the situation is I amheartbroken because my partner
just left me or maybe someonejust in a grief you know
whatever it is doesn't matteryou have a situation when you
got triggered and you feelcertain negative emotions you
are sad you are angry you feelbetrayed you feel unworthy
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unloved so when you go tospeaking therapy you kind of
learn how to speak about youremotions you learn these words
like I feel betrayed ormisunderstood or unsupported or
hopeless helpless angry so youcan kind of tune into these
emotions and and have theawareness about them but then
this is your current situationthen we need to go into
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transcendental state with thesamadhi and start communicating
with the unconscious to get ridof it as soon as possible
because then you don't have thestruggle anymore i i had clients
who were coming from abusedchildhood you know like they
were abused by their father andthen now they were grown up like
40 years old that father isstill coming around to see the
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grandchildren and then now theyare nice they don't hit anybody
but you see that person and it'slike oh my god he hit me when I
was eight and six and ten andlike all my childhood I was the
punching bag and then but I nowI need to see him every day
coming to my children and thatis like a huge struggle in their
mind you know how it makes mefeel and when we did the healing
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it stopped it suddenly she feltokay him being around she felt
in ease she didn't care anymoreand then also him got the ripple
effect and uh told to herhusband that you know i feel so
sorry what i did to her when shewas a child so it's we go deep
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and then we go into many layersand because everybody's
connected also in the soulfamily or the family unconscious
they had have the feeling as
Jennica (32:22):
well they change as
well that's really interesting
this kind of actually leads meto what you mentioned earlier as
well about the familyconstellation and what what role
does that is does that play inthis as Yes,
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we know it's like also
doctors say that, okay, let's
see your family background, likewho had cancer in your family
or have been any heart diseasein your family or diabetes,
because then you are more likelyto have it because it's in your
lineage.
The disease is coming fromtraumatic experiences or
emotional burden.
So what your ancestors wentthrough somehow is inherited
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into you, but you have actuallythe power to stop that pattern
and to live a different life.
But you need to shift thebehavior the customs the hobbits
and because we would think thatoh it's in our dna but in in a
couple of lifetimes like forexample if your grandma was like
a diabetic had diabetes andthen they say oh probably it's
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in your chromosomes already buti don't believe that in like 50
years your chromosome wouldchange you know like it's more
like in in a historical timelike hundreds of years but i
wouldn't think like since yourgrandma changed something in
your DNA is more like thebehavior, like why she had that
diabetes, because she wentthrough probably a trauma when
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she was a child and abused, andthen she started to eat
irregularly, or she started tocope with the food, you know,
like a food brought the comfortfor her or the safety,
overeating or eating that kindof food, because that parents is
teaching those food, the samefood to that parents, and then
that's teaching again the samefood.
So you actually eating thesimilar food, of course, you are
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going to have similar And thebehaviors, like how do you react
in certain situations?
Mm-hmm.
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because you're always loud.
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And then you start to feel thenegative effect of your
behavior.
And then now people is havingthis like reality check that I'm
not accepting your behavior.
I want a better treatment.
So you need to change.
And in the old days, you know,divorce was so rare.
And then everybody acceptedevery kind of behavior,
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especially women from men, likethey had to.
And then now it's like, youneed to change or I'm not gonna
be in this treatment.
And then the person realizingif it's happening with several
people, then, oh yeah, it'sprobably me who needs to change.
It's still not alwayshappening.
Obviously, some person justgoes through life like a train,
like a steam engine.
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But then some of them have theawareness and they want to grow
and they want to change becausethey realize that I want to be
with that person or I want tofulfill certain requirements.
Then they do those steps.
And with the change, you stopthe pattern or the Yeah,
Jennica (36:03):
and that sort of trauma
cycle, right?
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to you yeah so so when
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when i do this healing
process so first okay what's
bothering me today or let's saywhat was like my trigger or why
why i need to do this becausemaybe i i went through maybe i i
met someone new and then thisperson started to trigger me and
then i was like okay it'sbothering me i i i can't focus
like i used to so then i i justsay a sentence and i already
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transcend if you practice a longtime obviously you get to that
point that you can justtranscend easily.
But for beginners, obviously,even 15 minutes sometimes seems
short.
I had clients who told me like,you know, we need to meditate
longer until I can transcend.
It's still short for me, the15.
So then I need to do it longerfor them.
But 15 minutes is usuallyguiding you through opening up
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your chakras.
It also includes a breathingfrom the root to the eighth
chakra and then also bringingthe light into the cerebellum
and into the pineal gland.
So it is bringing more thepeaceful parts and the relaxing
parts are the chakra cleansingand the breathing from the root
to the eighth chakra basicallythat's what start you to make
you relaxing and then happensthe activation so basically in
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15 minutes you get into thatstate so when you are in that
state then you communicate withyour unconscious mind as a
different person so you aretalking to your unconscious mind
and you need to be kind andpolite for that part of you so
basically you tell to yourunconscious mind that okay this
is my current situation now thisis how I feel negative emotions
you list your negative emotionsand then you also say I feel
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sensation in my body if I havethese emotions and then where is
those sensations and then theunconscious mind can actually
bring in a vision like okay whathappens if I don't deal with
this today and then I can see aprojected future maybe I am
desperate I feel probably bad Iam either in the same situation
or worst something like thatsomeone see visions images
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someone just having someemotions and then we ask the
unconscious mind to collect thememories which are related to
this issue and then you're gonnareceive these like a like you
suddenly have those memorycoming back to you some people
see several memories at the sametime then i ask them to pick
one to work with but some peoplejust see one at a time and then
they just need to trust theprocess that this memory came
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here today right now to heal youknow so then they enter that
memory and they go through itit's either this lifetime or
past life if it's this lifetimemost of the time they can
recognize the people they knowthe situation they actually
remember if it was maybe intheir five years or ten years or
whatever and again they need togo in and feel those emotions
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for a bit or maybe a minute ortwo just to get the emotions to
release so then they collectokay I feel actually sad or
angry or this and that and thenI release it from their system
with certain script and thenwhen we release it from the
system we replace it with lightand love and forgiveness and
then all So we go back into thatsituation and we forgive.
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So after the release, normallythe forgiveness is not that
difficult.
Some people still havesometimes difficulties to
forgive even with done therelease.
Sometimes they even havedifficulties to forgive for
themselves.
So they say, okay, I feelguilty about it, what I've done
or why I didn't know it better,you know, or I should have be
smarter or whatever.
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So then they need to understandthat at that point, that was
the way to cope with it you knowthat was your situation that
was the best what you could doin that situation or maybe you
were under substances or youknow you were whatever happened
to you so you couldn't do itbetter so forgive to yourself
basically what happened in thatsituation and that is the first
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point and then the secondforgiveness is about the people
like who betrayed you so it'sagain many people say okay how
can I forgive it was so terribleand even we do the release
sometimes it still lingers therethat I can't really forgive,
but I always say that you can'treally point your fingers on one
person when something happensto you, because there is so many
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things in this equation.
There is only 5% of the timeyou act from your conscious
mind.
The rest, you act fromsubconscious or superconscious,
which means it comes fromprogramming, society's
programming, it comes fromparents, neighbors, school,
whatever, or it comes also fromsuperconscious, which is the
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karma and ancestral karma sosomehow you had to go through
this situation either because itwas your karma and ancestral
karma or it was that personacted from the subconscious
maybe it was money he wasmanipulated by something to act
like that or even being up undersubstances again so you it's
like you can look at it like oneperson is just like a little
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piece of sand in the system likelike a little particle we are
just little particle in theuniverse and there is so many
these things in the equation whythat happened to you in that
time and it's already you knowwhen you come to this world you
sign the contract and maybe thatwas also part of your contract
to go through that experiencebecause every lifetime you have
to go through certainexperiences that's how you grow
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and life after life you gothrough different experiences in
one lifetime you are the victimin the other lifetime you are
the one who betrays you know soand then when you actually going
through these situations thislifetime was probably about this
you know and then next it'sgoing to be different so it's
best you can do about it and theletting go is really important
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because you know not everybodyis dealing with PTSD or dealing
with mental health issues who'snot dealing with those is
because it was easy for them tolet go it's not because nothing
happened to them you know theywent to the same school as you
went or they had similar peoplearound them they watched the
same news it's just they didn'tallow it to affect them the same
way because they let it go theywere more in I
Jennica (42:33):
love that.
And I think I was just actuallyearlier going to ask you about
that question of karma, becauseas you mentioned, we signed that
contract, we go through theseexperiences because we are kind
of meant to fulfill that karmicduty that we kind of owe to
ourselves, our souls.
And so what you think is thatthis kind of form of healing can
break certain karmic cycles, wecan pay off our certain karmic
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dues through this kind ofhealing.
And also my next question aswell to you is, and do you
believe that everything that wego through is already written
before we even enter this bodyin this life
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so there are certain
meditations which I also learned
from my guru which is allowingto clear the karmic depths so
there are not through sourcememory healing but through
specific meditations whichhealing ancestral karma and
karmic depths as well or what isdetermined and what is not
determined there are certainthings which are determined but
we have also free will so thereare many times when we can
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actually make a choice Yeah,exactly.
aware of it or more focused andthen i'm gonna actually break
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the pattern so it is still therei had a client who had several
rapes and then within like manyyears and then it was always
with people drugged her so shestill eventually got into
situations when she allowed itto happen to her you know it was
a huge burden because okay nowshe needs to forgive to herself
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it's like how could i allow itto happen over and over again
and then because she wasn'tconscious about to this is
actually a pattern and I need tostop it you know so it it's
again mindfulness it's againmind power like recognizing the
patterns and say no to certainsituations but it could be also
a karma so you go through thesepatterns until you finally
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release the first one you knowwhen you have those traumatic
experience and we healed it wereleased that and then she
haven't felt the fear or worryanymore because that's what was
also carrying she was alsocarrying Mm-hmm.
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that what it is actually, orwhere is it coming from?
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Is it an asesra karma?
Is it my karma?
Is it just a trauma?
Because we don't know all thetime, then I provide all of the
things like, okay, cleareverything, then it should be
gone,
Jennica (45:44):
you
Edit (45:44):
know,
Jennica (45:45):
like that kind of way.
Wow, that is so interesting andso insightful as well.
It makes so much sense as well,the way you put it in a way
that it's kind of like, even aperson who might not necessarily
be quite a strong believer, youknow, that might lean more
towards the sciences.
I think you kind of put it in away where it's like, okay,
like, I think I'd be open tosort of like learning more about
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these kind of modalities,because, you know, some people
are a little bit averse thinkingit's a bit woo woo, or it's a
bit, there's no science to backit up.
The truth is that we all doknow, and we can say for a fact
that, you know, energies issomething that does exist around
us.
And science can prove that aswell, right through the movement
of particles and whatever not.
So simply just connecting thatwith the way that we vibrate,
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the way that we move can help usto understand so many many of
the depths, the layers that makeus us.
And I think when we can kind ofunderstand that, we can connect
to higher energies and highersources.
So yeah, that's really wellsaid.
Yeah, I
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realized that in the old
days, like magical things now
actually explained throughscience.
You know, like there were somany things which we thought
like it's magic or it's amiracle.
And then later it was explainedby science.
So when you actually hear nowthings which seems like a magic
or seems like a miracle, it'sprobably science scientifically
also able to explain, but we arenot there yet to go into all of
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the details.
But it's so powerful that thereare already people out there
who's explained scientificallyabout the pineal gland
activation, about thetranscendental things, about the
vibrational frequency ofemotions.
There are books about this.
It's already scientificallyproven.
So it's like a combination ofancient techniques and
neuroscience,
Jennica (47:26):
basically.
Yeah, 100%.
Just to wrap this interview up,tell us a little bit more about
your work and how can ourlisteners reach out to you?
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So easiest to find me is
like my website which is my name
editbkiss.com and on my websiteyou can find all my social
links.
So my YouTube channel which isthe Magical Karma Priestess
that's where you find myplaylist for meditations and you
know my Instagram where you canalso connect me or book a
synergy session with me which isabsolutely free and then I can
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help you to create your healingblueprint.
I also created a schoolcommunity because I wanted to
create a like a how can i saythis it's like a place where you
feel safe and secure and youcan come up with your situations
and struggles and and the sevenand the first seven days is
free to join and then i havealso a bigger meditation library
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in there in school where youalso can experience the karmic
depth release and ancestralhealing as well i also have a
course there life transformationsystem course where i teach
more about situations and thethoughts and and about energies
while vibrations and mindfulnessso more about like what people
not always understand right nowand there are also some
spiritual workshops there whichyou can have access to and we
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have a weekly call every week iam actually with this group i
call them elevate group so in inthe school community the school
comment is called release withease because i have a show which
is released with ease so it'sit's called the same name so in
school community we have aweekly call 90 minutes when we
do manifestation practices andalso healings because i'm also a
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manifestation And so I lovethis community.
It's really great.
And then I love having themthis really meaningful
conversations.
We're coaching.
We have Q&A.
We're speaking a lot togetherand we do these healings
together.
So it's really awesome.
And there are bonuses.
So if someone actually joinsthis school community and
becomes a paying client there,then the first bonus is a source
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memory healing.
So you receive already a sourcememory healing on your most
burning issue in your life.
And then if you stay sixmonths, you get access to my
energy.
energy healing course, which iselemental light healer course,
which is a combination of allthe energy healing modalities I
learned and how I applied.
So I'm also a Shechem healer,not just a Reiki master, but I
also channeled elementalhealings from angels.
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And then I also do dragonhealing and fireball healing.
So all of this in this littlecourse.
And then I also have, if youstay 12 months with us, then you
get access to the Karma YogaFacilitator Level 1 course,
which is teaching the sourcememory healing Yeah, absolutely.
Jennica (50:07):
So before
Edit (50:09):
COVID, I had only clients
in London.
And then after that, I openedmore up to the world.
And then since then, I havemany American clients and
European clients.
So I enjoy this diverse group.
Jennica (50:25):
Yeah.
Wow.
And I thank you so much forbeing on the podcast and sharing
so much insight here with us aswell.
And yeah, learned so much fromyou today.
So thank you.
Edit (50:34):
Thank you.
Jennica (50:38):
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