October 12, 2025 • 49 mins
A listener’s mailbag turns into a rapid-fire set of rock face-offs as we celebrate 100 episodes, relive moments from the show, and crack up at studio bloopers. We end with gratitude, a look at global listeners, and a simple truth: the music keeps us here.
• Stones over the Who for longevity and range
• Led Zeppelin’s blues power vs Aerosmith’s early punch
• Pink Floyd’s concept mastery vs Queen’s showmanship
• Eagles’ guitar craft vs Fleetwood Mac’s radio gold
• ACDC’s consistency vs Van Halen’s eras
• Tom Petty’s steady 80s line vs Springsteen’s stamina
• Def Leppard’s teen‑era imprint vs Scorpions’ singles
• Rush’s precision over Yes’s gloss
• Styx memories vs Kansas staples
• Nirvana’s cultural break vs Foo Fighters’ endurance
• Jagger archetype vs Tyler disciple
• Plant’s thunder vs Freddie’s crowd command
• Morrison’s magnetism vs Daltrey’s polish
• Billy Joel’s authorship vs Elton John’s catalog
• Prince’s virtuosity vs Bowie’s reinvention
• Blooper reel highlights and shared laughter
• Minute with Jimmy gratitude and partnership
• Audience reach across 73 countries and 1,055 cities
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Previously on music in my shoes.
Hey, this is Kevin McKinney fromDriving and Crying.
SPEAKER_01 (00:04):
Hey, this is David Lowry from Cracker and Camper
Van Beethoven.
This is Mitch Easter from LessActive.
This is my Sharona.
This is Ian from APB.
And this is George from APB.
This is Ted Ansani from MaterialIssue.
This is John King of Gang ofFour.
SPEAKER_03 (00:17):
Hello, this is Hugo Baron from Gang of Four.
And this is Ricky from Chute.
Hi, I'm Eppy from my father'splace at the Roslin Hotel.
This is Jess, and this is Jadefrom Hotel Fiction.
SPEAKER_02 (00:27):
I'm Jim.
I'm Jimmy.
And I'm Jimmy Barron.
And you're listening to Music MyDude.
(01:15):
Yes, episode 100.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
So, Jimmy, I want to start offby going straight into Music in
My Shoes Mailbag Time.
Alright, Music in My ShoesMailbag.
(01:36):
So, listener Robert in Hartwell,Georgia writes, I have a little
game I'd like you two to playsince music is a competition.
SPEAKER_01 (01:46):
Ooh.
SPEAKER_02 (01:47):
Both of you picked your favorite in the below
head-to-head battles.
I've got to say, this is apretty cool idea.
When I read this, I was like,man, this is like, this is
definitely leadoff material.
SPEAKER_01 (02:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (02:02):
And I think Robert really put some effort and some
time into it when thinking ofwho to have, you know, battling
each other.
All right.
Thanks, Robert.
Let's get into the list.
So, you know, there's no rightor wrong because music is not a
competition, even though Robertsays it is.
It is a competition, I guess, ifwe're picking who we think is
(02:23):
the better.
True.
So, Jimmy, Rolling Stones versusthe Who.
SPEAKER_00 (02:29):
Hmm.
Yeah.
Um I would say definitely theRolling Stones, because they had
more longevity.
I think the Rolling Stones werebetter for longer.
I think there were time periodswhere the Who was better than
the Rolling Stones.
(02:50):
But I don't think that the Whocontinued to put out good stuff
as long as the Rolling Stonesdid.
SPEAKER_02 (02:59):
Did I mention the Who was on their 32nd final
farewell tour?
SPEAKER_00 (03:04):
Yeah.
Right?
Like I learned how to playguitar the first time I ever
played in front of people was ata talent show at high school,
and I learned summertime bluesoff of the album Who's Last?
That was their last album fromtheir last tour.
And no, it wasn't.
SPEAKER_02 (03:24):
No, it wasn't.
SPEAKER_00 (03:26):
That was 1985 at that time.
SPEAKER_02 (03:28):
So for me, and I think you know my answer, Jimmy.
Real quick, I don't even have tothink.
It's Rolling Stones.
Like immediately, I would saythe Rolling Stones.
And I look at their work, allthe different types of music
that they've done.
If you look through all thedifferent decades and how
sometimes they would be able tomorph into what was happening at
(03:50):
the time, but other times theywere leaders.
And if you look at the early 70swith the who, you know, not just
the early 70s.
If you look at 68, 60s, youknow, really, I guess 69 to
through the early 70s, and youput the who and the Rolling
Stones together, music was justincredible.
(04:11):
Absolutely incredible at thattime.
SPEAKER_00 (04:12):
Aaron Powell And what was that that movie that
they made that never gotreleased that had the who and
the Rolling Stones in it?
SPEAKER_02 (04:18):
It was called the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll
Circus.
SPEAKER_00 (04:21):
Aaron Powell Yeah.
So I mean they were definitelyfriends and contemporaries and
were pushing each other, Ithink, in a certain way.
SPEAKER_02 (04:28):
Aaron Powell Yeah, I think one of the reasons they
didn't release it is the Who dida much better job, but that's
because they played early in theevening and the Rolling Stones
stayed up over 24 hours beforethey actually tried to perform.
We know that that generallydoesn't work out well.
True.
Led Zeppelin versus Aerosmith.
SPEAKER_00 (04:47):
Aaron Powell Well, for me, I mean it's an easy Led
Zeppelin.
I I'm not a huge Aerosmith fan.
I like I like kind of the hits.
I like the I like the firstalbum really.
I don't even know if I like thehits.
I I don't like the like the latethe 80s hits that they had, but
I I like the first album.
I like Dream On and that stuff.
And and maybe Toys in the Attic,yeah.
(05:08):
Soys in the Attic is a goodalbum.
That's that's what I think.
Led Zeppelin, like every albumhas great songs on it.
SPEAKER_02 (05:15):
Yeah, and you know, I agree.
And I I think I like Aerosmithmore than you do.
Led Zeppelin, I just think ismuch better.
And it's no disrespect towardsAerosmith.
Uh just what Led Zeppelin didand what Led Zeppelin kind of
turned me on to blues, yeah,they they kind of ripped off
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some of the stuff, but it wasstuff that I got exposed to that
I never would have been had theynot done it.
SPEAKER_00 (05:41):
Aaron Powell Yeah.
I mean, hey, mm music's allabout borrowing things and they
they made it their own.
SPEAKER_02 (05:47):
Aaron Ross Powell So instead of saying music is not a
competition, we're just gonna gowith music is borrowing?
SPEAKER_00 (05:53):
Yeah.
It's like a cup of sugar, yeah,sure.
I think it's a cup of sugar.
Yeah, you borrow an egg and thenthey borrow a cup of sugar.
SPEAKER_02 (06:03):
I got it.
I got it.
I like it.
With that, let's move on.
Pink Floyd versus Queen.
SPEAKER_00 (06:10):
Ah, okay.
You know, I I like Queen and Ilike uh why don't you go first
on this one?
I keep going first.
SPEAKER_02 (06:18):
Yeah, Pink Floyd.
I I don't even have to thinkabout it.
It's just that quick.
Pink Floyd to me, when you lookat the Sid Barrett days from the
late 60s, and then once he wasout of the band and Roger Waters
was really doing everything andthe albums that came out, and
you know, David Gilmore, hisguitar work and the vocals when
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Roger would let him, you know,it's just fantastic.
I don't have anything againstQueen, and I've been accused of
that multiple times.
You know, I like some of theirstuff.
I'm just not a huge Queen fan.
SPEAKER_00 (06:53):
I'm I'm the same way.
I like their stuff.
Um, I I got to see them, but youknow, of course, not with
Freddie Mercury.
I saw them uh several years ago,and they were they put on a
great show, they have a lot ofreally good songs, but Pink
Floyd were so original.
And uh, yeah, of course, theQueen was original too, but Pink
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Floyd, there was nothing likethat music, and they did those
records that really had a storyarc that flowed through the
whole record, and they they justreally uh uh broke a lot of
ground and made a lot of greatmusic.
So I'm saying Pink Floyd aswell.
SPEAKER_02 (07:34):
There you go.
Eagles versus Fleetwood Mac.
I'll go first.
So I'm not a huge Eagles fan.
I love Joe Walsh.
I like some of the Eagles stuff.
I love Hotel California.
Love Hotel California.
I think it's that's in my tophundred songs of all time.
Love that song.
But as a whole, you know, I'mnot a huge Eagles fan.
Fleetwood Mac brings me back towhen I was younger as a kid, and
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all the songs that they wouldplay on the radio.
If I hear that, it just bringsme back to that time.
And I just kind of like all ofthat.
And it just seemed that theywere just coming out with
something all the time.
I didn't like Desperado by theEagles.
That just wasn't my thing.
What was it, New Kid in Town?
That just wasn't my thing.
(08:20):
Fleetwood Mac had a lot moresongs that I liked.
SPEAKER_00 (08:23):
That's a really good point.
You know, Fleetwood Mac had alot more kind of classic rock,
and and some of the Eagles songsdid veer into easy listening or
something.
What do you call New Kid inTown?
You know, it's kind of yeah.
Um, but I am I'm a pretty bigEagles fan.
(08:43):
I love their I love their rocksongs, you know, things like
Already Gone and HotelCalifornia.
I think that's one of the bestguitar solos in in the business.
And so I think, yeah, the theEagles, the quality of guitar
players they had, starting withJoe Walsh, but also Don Felder,
(09:06):
everybody they've had sincethen.
I mean, they've of course GlennFry was no slouch, and now
they've got Vince Gill thatplays with them when they tour,
and he's amazing.
But um, yeah, as a as a bigguitar fan, I would definitely
take those guys over LindsayBuckingham, and I'm taking the
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Eagles over Fleetwood Mac.
SPEAKER_02 (09:29):
You heard it here first.
Sounded like you were Jimmy theGreek and you were making some
prediction for some big game orsomething.
SPEAKER_00 (09:36):
Yeah, hey, uh I've got a 900 number if uh anybody
wants to pay.
It's only$3 a minute, and I'lltell you uh all my picks for
other artists.
SPEAKER_02 (09:48):
I forgot about that, but isn't it funny?
That's kind of what FleetwoodMac reminds me of.
You know, I bring up Jimmy theGreek, you know, he was on uh
CBS Sunday football, and youknow, like you said, kind of
making picks and telling you whohe thought was, you know, gonna
be the big winner or whatever,and there was one 900 numbers
where you would call and theywould give you their picks and
(10:09):
you know, guaranteed winners andand so forth.
So there's no guaranteed winnershere, but ACDC versus Van Halen.
SPEAKER_00 (10:18):
I'm ACDC all day long.
SPEAKER_02 (10:21):
Yeah, me too.
I like Van Halen.
I like Van Halen a lot.
But when you put that like that,it's ACDC.
And it's ACDC whether it's BonScott or whether it's Brian
Johnson on vocals, it's straightup ACDC for me.
SPEAKER_00 (10:36):
Aaron Powell And and then also for me, it's only
David Lee Roth.
Like I'm not a fan at all of VanHagar.
unknown (10:44):
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02 (10:44):
Yeah, I'm a big David Lee Roth fan.
Last year I saw Sammy Hagar.
He was doing the best of bothworlds tour.
We talked about it.
And I like some of his solostuff.
I you know, different thingsthat he's done.
He did some of the stuff he didwith uh Van Halen.
You know, it was a good show.
I really enjoyed it, but I doprefer David Lee Roth.
unknown (11:05):
Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.
SPEAKER_00 (11:05):
Not these days, but back in his day, he he was
great.
SPEAKER_02 (11:10):
Yeah, he was.
Bruce Springsteen versus TomPetty.
SPEAKER_00 (11:15):
You go.
SPEAKER_02 (11:16):
Tom Petty.
I'm not a big Bruce Springsteenfan.
I grew up in New York.
Everybody seemed to be hugeBruce fans.
Like from all the early albums,even as we were young kids,
people were just like the boss,Bruce Springsteen.
And I tend when people are justso much into something like
(11:37):
that, those turn those thingskind of turn me off.
And I don't really go to it.
Now, I I've been to a BruceSpringsteen concert.
We talked about it before.
I tried to save aboyfriend-girlfriend
relationship in like 1988 orsomething.
And I like some of the songsthat he sings, but I'm not a
(11:57):
huge fan by any means.
And Tom Petty has so many songsI don't even think I can
remember all of them.
SPEAKER_00 (12:04):
True.
I have a lot of respect forBruce Springsteen.
You know, he's he's a reallygood songwriter.
He's like he puts on amazinglylong shows for people still.
I think he he'll play for fourhours and stuff.
So I mean, I think that's reallycool that he he still loves
playing that much.
But I'm with you.
I mean, Tom Petty.
(12:25):
And the great thing about TomPetty, and this is kind of true
of Bruce too, is like so manyrock artists changed in the 80s
to get that 80s sound and bepoppier.
And you know, even the cars,even uh certainly, you know,
Jefferson airplane turned intoStarship, and they did that song
(12:47):
that we will not mention.
But Springsteen and Tom Pettyboth just stayed true to their
roots through the through the80s, more so Petty, though.
You know, Tom Petty never putout an embarrassing song in the
1980s that I can think of.
SPEAKER_02 (13:03):
No, not at all.
SPEAKER_00 (13:04):
And the only other artist really that comes to mind
that kind of was steadfast withrock and roll was uh was John
Mellencamp.
And that's that's how scarcegood like classic rock was on
the radio in the mid 80s.
That those were like the threeguys that were still putting it
out, and everybody else waseither doing pop or or hair
(13:28):
metal or you know, so anyway,yeah.
Uh Tom Petty.
I saw Tom Petty probably 2005 orsomething like that at what was
then Phillips Arena, and he puton a really good show, but he
had no video screens.
It was like you were at aconcert in 1977.
(13:50):
It was just the guys on thestage with some lights, and it
was it was unusual even for for2005 to not have any video
screens, and but he soundedreally good.
SPEAKER_02 (14:04):
I'm sure it was cheaper to do the show, do the
tour.
SPEAKER_00 (14:08):
Well, now that you mention it, I went because I
like Tom Petty, but I also wentbecause we got some sort of
deal.
I think I worked at Turner then,and I think because Turner, the
company that owned Turner, alsoowned Phillips Arena at the
time.
We got some sort of employeething where I think it was like
20 bucks or something, like,hey, the show's tonight.
(14:29):
You want a ticket to Tom Pettyfor 20 bucks?
So my wife and I went.
SPEAKER_02 (14:33):
Yeah, you can't turn that down, Tom Petty.
I I saw Tom Petty, I think thefirst time was probably 87, and
that was in New York at JonesBeach.
Uh I think it was 91.
I saw Tom Petty at LakewoodAmphitheater, and then I saw him
two more times, the last timebeing at Music Midtown in 2004,
(14:57):
maybe.
SPEAKER_00 (14:58):
So yeah, Tom Petty died uh sadly in 2017, right?
SPEAKER_02 (15:01):
Yeah.
I wish I had gone to see he did,I think, his 40th anniversary
tour, and then he uh then hepassed away.
So if we move on with our list,and I like this list, I think
this is pretty cool.
Gives us an opportunity to talkabout different things.
SPEAKER_00 (15:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (15:16):
Scorpions versus Def Leopard.
SPEAKER_00 (15:18):
Yeah.
I I have can can I abstain?
I don't know.
Uh I will say, okay, the DefLeppard came out with Pyromania.
Wasn't that the name of thealbum?
SPEAKER_01 (15:32):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00 (15:33):
Pyromania came out when I was in the eighth grade.
Eighth grade, high schoolstarted in the eighth grade at
that time in Atlanta.
And so I was in high school asthis sub-freshman, and that
album was hot, and everybodylistened to it, and I really
enjoyed it, you know, as aneighth grader.
And then I I never really stuckwith them, but I never got into
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the Scorpions really at all.
I mean, Rocky Like a Hurricane,right?
I think that was the that wasone, and that probably came out
that same year.
So uh I'll I'll go Def Leopard.
SPEAKER_02 (16:05):
I like it.
I think before that album, theyhad an album that had one song
on it, Bringing On theHeartache.
Oh, yeah.
Bringing on the heartbreak,bringing on the heartaches.
I can't remember.
And I thought that song waspretty cool.
Pretty pretty cool rock song.
And they just kind of gotbetter, but then they started to
get into that 80s pop thing, youknow, kind of like you were
(16:29):
talking about, where they kindof changed.
And I know they had to change alittle bit with Rick Allen when
he lost his arm in the caraccident and they had to do some
electronic drums.
But, you know, it just kind ofchanged, you know, by the time
they got to pour some sugar onme and everything, but I'll
still take Def Leppard over theScorpions as a whole.
Agreed.
(16:50):
Rush versus Yes.
I'm gonna go rush.
It's just quick.
I have always liked yes,listened to them a lot when I
was younger because my unclelistened to them.
And when I would go to mygrandparents' house, I would
hear them a lot in, you know,the early mid-70s.
But I think when you just lookat Rush and the overall work and
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uh the type of music that it is,that type of rock, I like much
better than I do the overall ofyes.
The 90125 album, I was a seniorin high school and listened to
that to a ton, you know,definitely much different than
what they had done.
Shorter songs, definitely morepoppy, very different from their
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early 80s stuff that um or notjust early 80s, but 70s stuff
that they had done.
But I'm gonna go with Rush.
SPEAKER_00 (17:40):
I'm with you too, and I'm gonna go back to uh the
skating rink in the sixth grade,and Tom Sawyer was out at that
point, which you know what wasthat maybe about 1980, 81.
And I I enjoyed Tom Sawyer andthe other songs that were on
that record.
I never got too deep into Rush,but I never got into yes
(18:02):
whatsoever.
So it's Rush.
SPEAKER_02 (18:04):
Modern Day Warrior.
Sticks vs.
Kansas.
SPEAKER_00 (18:09):
Well, this is going downhill fast.
Um I've seen Sticks twice.
SPEAKER_02 (18:17):
I've seen Sticks once.
They played after Braves game,Mets played the Braves.
Yeah.
And they played in the infield.
SPEAKER_00 (18:26):
Have they done that more than once?
Because I was there.
SPEAKER_02 (18:28):
I I don't know that they have, but I was I had great
seats and went to it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:32):
Yeah, we I was like dugout level, and we were with
some friends that are big Styxfans, and we had been to Sticks
with them at Lakewood a fewyears earlier.
So this was probably 2009 orsomething like that.
Is that when you think it was?
SPEAKER_02 (18:50):
Uh quite possibly, yes.
I took my in-laws because myfather-in-law was a huge Styx
fan, and I had seats, I hadgotten seats behind the Mets
dugout, and so we were realclose on the third base side,
and I remember them saying, uh,for the concert, if you're
sitting here or here or here,you gotta move, and just
(19:12):
remembering it doesn't matterbecause I know we don't have to
move.
And they did a great, greatshow.
I enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_00 (19:18):
So I as a little kid, uh Come Sail Away was out.
I want to say, you know, thatwas like 1976 or something,
right?
That was pretty early that thatsong was out, and I loved that
song, just it took you on ajourney, you know.
It was one of those songs likeBand on the Run that kind of has
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all these different parts, andlike, wow, this is still the
same song.
So I I enjoyed that, and uh Iwas not really a Mr.
Roboto fan, but that's one ofthose earworms you can't get out
of your head sometimes.
SPEAKER_02 (19:54):
Um I agree with you on that.
For me, for Kansas, it would becarry on my wayward son.
Like it that just seemed to besomething as I got older and you
were with people and they weredoing something like, Oh, carry
on my wayward son.
You know, like you just you knowsay it as a saying type thing,
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and you know, dust in the wind.
And I hated that song.
All we are is dust in the wind.
SPEAKER_00 (20:21):
It was so depressing.
I'm like, ugh.
Really?
That's all we are?
SPEAKER_02 (20:25):
It really was.
SPEAKER_00 (20:26):
Um, so I I do like that Will Farrell does he sings
a Kansas song in a lot of hismovies.
Have you known that?
I did not realize that.
I think in old school, when whenthe old man that's in their
fraternity dies, like mudwrestling or something, I think
he sings Dust in the Wind.
(20:48):
Uh, but he might sing Carry OnWayward Son.
He he does several movies hesings Kansas songs in.
SPEAKER_02 (20:54):
Blue's my boy.
SPEAKER_00 (20:56):
Blue's my boy.
That's right.
SPEAKER_02 (20:58):
So Styx Kansas, I think that we're at a tie.
Um, I'm going sticks.
Are you?
Yeah.
You know what?
For my father-in-law, who's nolonger with us, who loved
Sticks, and the last show thathe went to see Sticks in his
wheelchair and was trying torock out as best he could, I got
that shirt.
I'm gonna go with Sticks.
SPEAKER_00 (21:18):
And you know, Kansas does have a relation here
because the house that I play atat Virginia Highlands Porch Fest
used to be the lead singer'shouse.
SPEAKER_02 (21:28):
I did not know that.
Yeah.
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (21:31):
And he built um, there's apparently Hopefully not
this city, like a studio in thebasement that they the owners
now don't use it for that.
But he built out a studio and hehas like a rotunda in the front
where he had his piano.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:44):
Wow.
I did not know that.
I learned something like that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:47):
Sorry, Kansas.
I picked sticks, but I don'tknow.
SPEAKER_02 (21:49):
All right, let's move on.
Foo Fighters versus Nirvana.
SPEAKER_00 (21:53):
Okay, Robert's.
This is this is starting to getin Robert's territory here, I
have a feeling.
Uh I am a bigger Nirvana fanthan a Foo Fighters fan.
I really appreciate what DaveGrohl does.
He puts on an amazing show.
He's kind of likesingle-handedly helped keep rock
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and roll going on a large scale.
Like, how many other big touringrock bands can you think of that
are like the Foo Fighters?
They've really endured.
So hats off to him.
Nirvana was short-lived, but Ijust thought what they did and
what Kurt Cobain's songwritingdid just flipped music on its
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head and and really made adifference and changed things.
So I'm going Nirvana.
SPEAKER_02 (22:40):
I couldn't agree with you more.
I mean, to me, it's not evenclose.
It's Nirvana, hands down, rightaway.
I agree with you from seeing theFoo Fighters.
Like when I was there, I feltlike I was at an old-time rock
and roll concert.
And I appreciate that.
But in this case, Nirvana,Nirvana, Nirvana.
(23:01):
Yep.
Mick Jagger versus Steven Tyler.
SPEAKER_00 (23:04):
Oh, we're going back to the Aerosmith well.
Definitely Mick Jagger.
Mick Jagger.
So there is there is a famouspicture.
You know the one I'm talkingabout?
Of Steven Tyler early on in theAerosmith's career, and he's
wearing a shirt, one of thosewith the iron-on letters that
you can tell they made itthemselves.
Yeah.
(23:24):
You know, Spencer gifts at themall.
And it says, Who the hell isMick Jagger?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (23:30):
Robert Plant versus Freddie Mercury.
I'm sure you know that MickJagger was for me.
Robert Plant versus FreddieMercury.
Robert Plant being the leadsinger of Led Zeppelin.
SPEAKER_00 (23:40):
Well, this is interesting because didn't we do
Led Zeppelin versus Queen?
Or was that a different matchup?
SPEAKER_02 (23:46):
I'm going to have to look.
I don't remember.
I didn't.
It was Led Zeppelin Arrow Smithand Pink Floyd versus Queen.
Now we're doing Robert Plantversus Freddie Mercury.
SPEAKER_00 (23:58):
You know, for some weird reason, I'm going to go
Freddie Mercury.
I think that he was just such anamazing front man.
I think people still copy him tothis day, his his vocal style,
his way that he layered vocals,the way that he brought things
from musical theater into rockand roll and made it work and
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made made this kind of moregrand music out of it.
And the way that he couldcontrol a crowd was
unprecedented.
I'm sure Robert Plant was goodat it too, but he was a little
more self-absorbed.
I think Freddie Mercury was alot more extroverted on stage
and like really connecting theaudience.
(24:43):
He did that whole Deo thing.
Right.
And people like, you know, BillyJoe Armstrong still does that
every show.
SPEAKER_02 (24:51):
I hear what you're saying, but I've got to go with
Robert Plant.
I getcha.
It's been a long time since Irock and roll, and that's it.
Just listen to the rest of it.
He was a fantastic front man forrock at a time, you know, that
rock was a big, big thing.
And I love it.
(25:11):
Roger Daltrey versus JimMorrison.
I think this is the mostintriguing out of everything
that we've talked about.
Very, very different.
Roger Daltrey, lead singer ofthe Who.
Jim Morrison, lead singer of thedoors.
SPEAKER_00 (25:26):
What do you think?
SPEAKER_02 (25:28):
I love Jim Morrison.
Okay?
I say that I love the Who.
I don't think I've ever said Ilove Roger Daltrey.
Yeah.
I love Jim Morrison.
Just his voice, his poetry thathe would break out while they
were doing concerts and songs,you know, his antics.
(25:49):
I have to go Jim Morrison.
SPEAKER_00 (25:51):
Again, somebody that the audience, every, you know,
15,000 people in that arenacouldn't take their eyes off of
him because he had thatconnection with the audience.
And to me, Daltrey's more like,oh, he's a singer.
It's almost like he's on a TVshow or something, you know?
Like he kind of just strutsaround and sings into his
microphone.
SPEAKER_02 (26:12):
And he always looks so good all the time.
SPEAKER_00 (26:14):
Yeah, right.
He's so such a pretty boy.
He's a what they call a teddyboy over there in England.
SPEAKER_02 (26:19):
Is that what they call him?
SPEAKER_00 (26:20):
Yeah.
That was the punks versus theteddies were the big uh riots,
and the teddies all like thewho.
SPEAKER_02 (26:25):
Oh.
Jim Morrison was the lizardking, and he was very
charismatic.
You know, if you ever watch himdo an interview, you just watch
him sing, and you never knewwhat you were gonna get on any
given night.
Never knew.
Billy Joel versus Elton John.
SPEAKER_00 (26:40):
Huh.
Okay.
Um Billy Joel, his early stuff,he really wrote his own songs,
he wrote his own lyrics, andcreated something that I of
course he was a piano player,and and Elton John had done that
earlier than him.
(27:01):
But I think Billy Joel wasreally original in the style
that he was doing, and he waswriting both his lyrics and the
music.
Now, Elton John wasn't writinglyrics, and when he did attempt
to write lyrics in the 80s, theyweren't very good.
He needed Bernie Taupin to writethe lyrics, so that's one
markdown for Elton.
(27:21):
Um the problem is I probablylike more Elton John's songs
than I do Billy Joel songs.
And and Billy Joel in the eight,like Uptown Girl is annoying to
me.
I'm still standing's annoying,but I don't know if it's as
annoying as Uptown Girl, so I'mgoing Elton John.
SPEAKER_02 (27:44):
I guess that's why the Call with the Blues, I
think, is one of the greatestsongs of all time.
And it is, I think a song thatcame out when it came out, it
was a song that I kind of neededat that point in time, you know,
really could relate to the wordsand everything.
And the fact that it was kind oflike Elton's definitely back
now.
You know, he had been gone for anumber of years with those bad
(28:06):
records and trying to write hisown songs.
Billy Joel, you know, I grew upon Long Island.
Billy Joel was a huge part of,you know, local radio, and you
heard him all the time.
Like I don't remember nothearing Billy Joel on the radio
and have seen Billy Joel moretimes than I can count.
Well, I've seen Elton John aton.
(28:28):
I've seen Elton John and BillyJoel together play a show.
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
Oh, that's right.
They used to do the uh duelingpiano thing.
SPEAKER_02 (28:36):
And it's so difficult to try and pick one,
but I would probably go withBilly Joel because it's like
more of a personal connection.
We talked about the Glass Housesalbum and in the summer of 1980
and you know, the fall of 1980with Glass Houses, how you know
(28:56):
the songs played for a long timeand they helped through through
different things for young13-year-old me.
I would have to go with withBilly Joel.
I think Billy Joel, his albumsup until his last album, all I
could I I could relate to all ofit.
Like I was growing up as BillyJoel was growing up, kind of
thing, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_00 (29:17):
Where are you on Uptown Girl?
SPEAKER_02 (29:19):
No, I don't hate it.
You know, I'll listen to it.
It's not on my phone if you'reasking.
SPEAKER_00 (29:23):
We didn't start the fire, where are you on that?
SPEAKER_02 (29:25):
Uh you know, I I don't hate it, but it's not on
my phone.
Okay.
I I'll say that.
You know, it's I think that hereached a point where sometimes
the the fame and the fortune,you know, overshadows the work
that you're doing, and you thinkthat you can do this and and it
gets you more fame and fortune,and you give up certain things.
(29:49):
And that ha happened with DeltonJohn with with not having Bernie
writing, and and it happens to aton of people.
But I don't hate uh you know,Uptown Girl or Or anything.
I think we talked about BillyJoel.
It was one of the first thingswe ever talked about where you
had said, Yeah, I I don't reallylike Billy Joel, and I said
(30:11):
something to the effect like uhI I'm not making excuses or I I
have no problem telling you thatI like Billy Joel.
SPEAKER_00 (30:19):
You might have informed me that music is not a
competition.
SPEAKER_02 (30:22):
Trevor Burrus That might have w been where it came
from, all due to Uptown Girl andso forth.
But you know what?
It's kind of what what we likeand what we're used to.
And like I said, Billy Joel wasplayed all the time.
I mean, I'm from Levittown, NewYork.
Even though Billy Joel was fromHicksville, at the end of his
shows, he always used to say,Hey, I'm from Levittown, and he
(30:43):
hung out in Levittown, and hewould say that he he grew up in
a Levit house.
And if you go to the Long IslandMusic Hall of Fame, they even
have all this Levittown stuff upin the exhibit that they have
for Billy Joel.
So I kind of have like thatpersonal connection, even though
I don't know Billy Joel any morethan I know Elton John.
(31:06):
So hey, listen, let's move on.
Prince versus David Bowie.
SPEAKER_00 (31:11):
Woo! Those are two amazing, iconic artists that uh
you just hate to pick one or theother.
But I never got to see DavidBowie live.
And I've heard he was reallygreat live.
Um, he he also went through alot of different eras, and you
(31:33):
know, he had a Ziggy Stardust,and he had all like we talked
about, his ashes to ashes andeverything in between.
And so I got a lot of respectfor him, but I saw the Prince
Musicology Tour, which was maybeuh early 2000s, and he blew the
(31:57):
doors off that place.
That guy could play guitar likenobody else.
I mean, he belongs on every listof greatest guitarists, and he
has so many hits, he has so manygreat songs, and talk about
being a guy that has the crowdin the palm of his hand.
I mean, Prince had that.
(32:18):
So I'm I'm going Prince.
SPEAKER_02 (32:20):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with David Bowie, and for me,
it's it's quick to David Bowie.
I love David Bowie.
I love him through all thedifferent periods of his career,
and even when he did covers, youknow, he did China Girl, which
was originally an Iggy Pop song,and then he I didn't know that.
Yes, he made it his own and hewould make songs his own.
But, you know, when you listento Major Tom or you listen to
(32:45):
anything off the Ziggy Stardustalbum, you know, The Rise and
Fall, if you just listen to thesong Life on Mars, I mean
they're just absolutelyfantastic songs that I continue
to listen to that are just fromthese periods of rock and roll
that you can still listen andenjoy now.
(33:10):
It's David Bowie for me.
All right, I get it.
All right, we're gonna finish uphere.
Axel Rose versus Bon Scott slashBrian Johnson.
SPEAKER_00 (33:19):
Oh, wait, okay, so they're sharing a spot.
Yeah.
I think it's easy for both ofus, but maybe not.
You go first.
SPEAKER_02 (33:25):
Yeah, it's real easy.
It's Bon Scott, Brian Johnson.
I mean, for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (33:30):
Between the two of them, who is it?
SPEAKER_02 (33:32):
Uh I'd have to go Brian Johnson.
Okay.
I'm gonna go Bon Scott.
I would go Brian Johnson.
Even though I was a big ACDCfan, we I've talked about it
more times than I care tomention.
That, you know, when Bon Scottdied, I'm like, oh, that's it,
ACDC's over.
We talked about me telling VinnyGiacaloni that.
And sure enough, within a coupleof months, all of a sudden you
(33:54):
shook me all night long.
So what did I know as a13-year-old, you know?
SPEAKER_00 (33:59):
It's pretty unprecedented though, and they
they somehow did it.
SPEAKER_02 (34:02):
Yeah.
They were the blueprint.
SPEAKER_00 (34:04):
Yeah, I'm gonna go Bon Scott uh just because his
vocal style, man, had anybodyever sounded like that?
SPEAKER_02 (34:12):
No.
Did anyone ever play thebagpipes like that?
SPEAKER_00 (34:15):
Yeah.
And I actually looked up BonScott before ACDC to see what he
was up to, and it's hilarious.
You can find some old videosfrom like Australian TV of him
in these pop bands that aredoing like yummy, yummy.
I got love in my tummy orsomething.
And he was a pop singer, andsomehow he turned into the Bon
(34:39):
Scott in ACDC.
So it was pretty funny.
SPEAKER_02 (34:44):
I really appreciate that being sent in and enjoyed
going back and forth and takinga look at, you know, the
non-competition competition.
That was a lot of fun.
The top five most listened toepisodes since the show began.
(35:07):
Are you ready for this, Jimmy?
Yes.
Number one, it's the firstepisode.
All right.
So let's just do like the topseven instead, because you know,
everybody will listen to thefirst one.
They'll see if it's somethingthey like.
Yeah.
And in in all honesty, the showis much different than what it
was on episode one.
I think that if you start, youknow, at episode 20, I'm just
(35:29):
throwing a number out there,you'll see how different it is,
you know, more in the directionof where we're going today.
SPEAKER_00 (35:35):
If people could hear episode one that we threw away,
then it was really different.
SPEAKER_02 (35:40):
Yeah.
Much, much different.
SPEAKER_00 (35:42):
You know, you're never hearing that, folks.
SPEAKER_02 (35:44):
The episode that no one's heard.
You were right about that.
And we're gonna keep it thatway.
But number seven, episodethirty-eight, the real My
Sharona interview.
Again, loved it, loved havingSharona on.
It was fantastic.
I think we were the onlyinterview she did in 2024.
SPEAKER_00 (36:02):
Wow.
And she told us she was onlygonna do five minutes or
something, and she talked to usfor 20 minutes.
SPEAKER_02 (36:08):
Yes, she did.
Yes, she did.
Number six, episode 21, materialissue, the Ted Ansani interview.
Okay, we're going through thetop seven episodes listened to
by you, the listeners, since theshow began.
Number five, episode four,Nirvana, MTV Unplugged, 30th
(36:31):
anniversary, friend of the show,Chris Cassidy.
Yes.
Number four, episode 29, Drivingand Crying, the Kevin Kinney
interview, another friend of theshow.
Number three, episode 34, APB,Ian Slater and George Chain
interview.
(36:52):
And that was fantastic.
They called in from Scotland,and it was great, you know,
having a conversation with them.
And seeing them a few weeks agoplaying up in New York, loved
it.
Great time.
Number two, episode 32, Let'sActive and Early REM producer,
Mitch Easter interview.
(37:12):
Again, probably the highlight ofthat is when you asked him how
they got the sound for thebeginning of Radio Free Europe.
That is correct.
And so many people like that.
And on social media, I knowpeople were reposting that
saying you gotta listen if youwant to know how they did that.
(37:34):
And then number one, as Imentioned before, the first
episode titled Pilot.
The episode with the leastlistens is a bit of a surprise
to me.
Episode 62, Paul McCartney'sTokyo Troubles, Downtown, and
The King of Rock.
(37:55):
Least listened to show out ofall of the shows.
SPEAKER_00 (37:58):
Weird.
SPEAKER_02 (37:59):
Even the 2024, I think it was called The Baker's
Dozen, where we kind of recapped2024.
That got more listens than thePaul McCartney's Tokyo Trouble.
SPEAKER_00 (38:11):
So go listen to it, folks.
Save that show.
SPEAKER_02 (38:15):
Yeah, let's bring the numbers up.
Let's see what we can do.
You know what?
I think now we should look backat some of the funny moments
here on Music in My Shoes.
I've got bloopers in my shoes.
How about you?
I've got bloopers in my shoes.
How about you?
We got music in our shoes.
We've got music in our hair.
(38:36):
We've got everything you wantbecause we care.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something old.
Rock and roll girls peaked atnumber 20, April 27, 85.
And the single centerfold peakedat number 44.
SPEAKER_00 (38:56):
Uh, center field.
SPEAKER_02 (39:04):
Oh, Jay Giles band.
All right.
And the single.
All right, Jimmy, hold on.
Ready?
Yeah.
And the single center feed.
Oh boy.
SPEAKER_00 (39:22):
I realized I never poured myself a glass of water,
and I so I I'm gonna grab thatwhile we're stopped.
Jimmy's getting water, water,water, Jimmy's getting water.
SPEAKER_02 (39:31):
What she said, nowhere fast, or barbar.
Or barbar Barbarism.
Oh, can we try that one moretime?
Yeah.
Or Barbarism begins at home,which I love.
I think that song is fantastic.
SPEAKER_01 (39:54):
Did you hear that?
SPEAKER_02 (39:56):
Wait, you might have to make a mark.
SPEAKER_01 (39:57):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (39:58):
What the heck was that?
Oh.
Sorry, I didn't turn off.
Turn my GPS off.
SPEAKER_00 (40:04):
Will Farrell?
SPEAKER_02 (40:05):
Yeah.
As the cowboy.
Oh, God, I my voice.
Sorry.
Hold on.
SPEAKER_00 (40:10):
You got Will Farrell.
SPEAKER_02 (40:12):
As the cowboy.
As the cowboy.
One more time, Jimmy.
SPEAKER_00 (40:16):
Yeah, I wasn't into Donna Summer.
SPEAKER_02 (40:19):
You look like Donna Summer.
Hey I'm not even sure what thatwas supposed to mean.
Oh man.
Oh, that was funny.
To make a mark, then we need toget rid of that part.
SPEAKER_00 (40:34):
I also realized I need my phone for Minute with
Jimmy, and I think I left it inthe car.
So let me find it.
SPEAKER_02 (40:42):
Okay.
So right now you're listening toA Minute Without Jimmy.
Let's learn something as I'malways.
Okay.
Sorry about that.
It's okay.
And the only single on thealbum, the autobiography.
(41:02):
Autobiographal.
The autobiographical.
Oh my God.
I said it right, but I'm justlaughing.
I'm sorry, Jimmy.
I'm making Jimmy work today.
And on percussion, Ray Cooter.
And it's not Rai Cooter.
I did this the last time.
(41:24):
I wanted to say.
Oh my God.
Is this exactly the way the lasttime I brought up Elton John?
SPEAKER_00 (41:34):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (41:35):
Isn't it Ray Cooper?
Hold on, Jimmy.
God.
Yes, it's Ray Cooper.
All right, you ready?
Yeah.
And we're changing our ways,making different roads.
(41:56):
Oh my God.
We can't put that on the air.
SPEAKER_00 (42:02):
All right.
SPEAKER_02 (42:03):
The biggest of the thing.
SPEAKER_00 (42:06):
He was talking about his muscles.
SPEAKER_02 (42:08):
Oh yeah, that doesn't they didn't come across
like that at all.
Oh God.
Let me take a deep breath.
All right, you ready?
Jimmy, with you being thesubject matter on Jimmy, let me
do it one more time.
Jimmy, with you being the subJimmy.
Okay, you ready?
(42:29):
Yeah.
So anyway, that's a a little bitof a quick summer 1980 poof for
me.
SPEAKER_00 (42:38):
I don't know if that's the right term.
SPEAKER_02 (42:40):
Oh, all right, let me try this again.
So after that, Dire Straitsfollows up with money for
nothing.
Oh God, I just burped.
Let's try it again one moretime.
Jimmy, why don't you drink alittle bit more water there?
(43:00):
Okay.
You good?
Mm-hmm.
I'm not sure what has happened.
But it's happening.
And hearing, you know, Don'tStop Believing, Go Your Own Way,
songs that were on the radio allthe time, and it just kind of
brings me back to that time.
SPEAKER_00 (43:21):
Don't stop believing.
SPEAKER_02 (43:22):
Did I say don't stop believing?
SPEAKER_00 (43:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (43:28):
No, I didn't.
I did.
Okay.
All right, we'll leave it then.
Wait, the 90210 album?
SPEAKER_00 (43:35):
That's not right, Jim.
Somebody should have given him ajuicer, you know?
I mean, that lemon isn't gonnasqueeze itself, but apparently,
like, he needed someone else todo it.
SPEAKER_02 (43:49):
Oh, I don't even know what to say, Jimmy.
I don't know what to say.
It's the 100th episode.
There you go.
Jimmy, that was fantastic.
Reliving some of those momentsthat I forgot that we actually
did.
And sometimes that's how it isin the studio.
SPEAKER_00 (44:04):
Yeah, and uh I've been saving those for the last
year or so without you knowingabout it.
So I I just sprung this on Jimlast week, I think.
I said, Hey, by the way, for thehundredth episode, we could do
these bloopers.
And uh Jim couldn't stoplaughing at him, at us, at all
of our malaprops.
SPEAKER_02 (44:25):
Yeah, and it's true.
I listened to it in the car onthe way home.
I listened to it on my Bluetoothspeaker at home, and then I went
walking and listened to it on myheadphones as I was walking, and
I'm hysterical as I'm walkingpast people, and people are
looking at me like, what's goingon?
SPEAKER_00 (44:43):
They thought you were an escaped mental patient.
SPEAKER_02 (44:45):
Yeah, I was acting that way because I laughed
pretty hard.
You know what, Jimmy?
Tick, tick, tick.
It's Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for a minute withJimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute
with Jimmy.
It's time for a minute withJimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute
with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_00 (45:00):
So Jim thinks I'm gonna talk about an album from
1980.
But what I decided, since it'sthe hundredth episode, I wanted
to talk about how grateful I amfor this show.
Because Jim came in, I didn'tknow him.
He was a friend of a friend, andhe came into the studio to
record something.
(45:21):
We did the aforementioned uhepisode that you know nobody's
gonna hear.
And then he came back in and hesaid, Well, how about you be on
the mic too?
And that way I can be talking tosomebody.
And I'm like, sure, let's dothat.
And since then we've becomefriends, and I really, really,
you know, like Jim Boge and I'lllike all you people out there.
(45:43):
I mean, he's a very lovable guy,and that's why people listen
because Jim's a good dude.
And so I'm just grateful to be apart of it, and I wanted to say
thanks on our hundredthanniversary episode, and uh
yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_02 (46:00):
Thank you, Jimmy.
You can go five minutes withJimmy if you want to, if you're
gonna talk like that.
I was not expecting that, andyou know, honestly, I do
appreciate it because I came inhere not knowing what to do, how
I was gonna do it.
Everything is different when youget in a booth and you put the
headphones on and you got thisbig microphone in front of you,
(46:20):
it becomes more real, and I hadno idea what to expect.
Hence why that first episodenever came out.
We did a new episode one.
But it has been just a pleasure.
I enjoy talking to someonecompared to just speaking.
You know, nobody wants to justhear me.
But speaking to you and yousaying what you like or don't
(46:43):
like or agree or whatever, it'sjust fun.
And that's what I think the showis.
I think the show isentertaining.
As one of the listeners said inthe early days, I don't know all
of the things you talk about.
I don't even like some of thethings you talk about, but the
show is entertaining.
And that was after the thirdepisode, and that's when I was
like, this is what we need todo.
Yeah.
Still talk about the things thatare music in my shoes, but at
(47:07):
the same time make itentertaining so that people can
enjoy themselves, have a laugh,get away from whatever it is
that you know might be on theirmind.
That's what we're here for.
And I do appreciate it, Jimmy,because I could not do any of
this without you.
Oh, thanks.
I know there's plenty of peopledo podcasts from their home and
they set up a studio and they dothis and they do that.
(47:30):
That's not me.
I am the guy that comes in.
I turn it on to talk, do mything, it's over, and you take
care of everything else, andthat's what I love.
Okay?
That's that's me.
SPEAKER_00 (47:44):
That's good, yeah.
And that's you.
It's a good team.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (47:47):
Me and you, and you and me.
No matter how you toss the dice,it had to be.
SPEAKER_00 (47:51):
Hakuna matata.
SPEAKER_02 (47:53):
Wow, we're going everywhere today.
I like it.
But yeah, Jimmy, I do appreciateit.
I really do, because we wouldnot be here at the hundredth
episode.
We probably wouldn't have made aper past the first episode if it
had just been on me.
Oh, well, thank you.
Okay.
So thank you.
And and and I do mean, and thankyou to everybody that listens to
the show.
(48:13):
I think the last time I looked,73 different countries have
listened.
Somewhere about a thousandfifty-five different cities
across the world have listenedto the show at some point.
And we appreciate everybody thatdoes.
That means a lot.
SPEAKER_00 (48:28):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (48:28):
Yeah, it really keeps us going and keeps us
wanting to do this so that thatyou can hear.
And if you want to reach out tous, you can at musicinmyshoes at
gmail.com.
Please like and follow the Musicin My Shoes Facebook and
Instagram pages.
That's it for episode 100 ofMusic in My Shoes.
(48:51):
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie,show producer and owner of
Arcade 160 Studios, and themagic man that makes it all
happen, that's located righthere in Atlanta, Georgia.
And Vic Thrill for our podcastmusic.
This is Jim Boge, and I hope youlearned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
(49:12):
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
Previously on music in my shoes.
Hey, this is Kevin McKinney fromDriving and Crying.
SPEAKER_01 (00:04):
Hey, this is David Lowry from Cracker and Camper
Van Beethoven.
This is Mitch Easter from LessActive.
This is my Sharona.
This is Ian from APB.
And this is George from APB.
This is Ted Ansani from MaterialIssue.
This is John King of Gang ofFour.
SPEAKER_03 (00:17):
Hello, this is Hugo Baron from Gang of Four.
And this is Ricky from Chute.
Hi, I'm Eppy from my father'splace at the Roslin Hotel.
This is Jess, and this is Jadefrom Hotel Fiction.
SPEAKER_02 (00:27):
I'm Jim.
I'm Jimmy.
And I'm Jimmy Barron.
And you're listening to Music MyDude.
(01:15):
Yes, episode 100.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
So, Jimmy, I want to start offby going straight into Music in
My Shoes Mailbag Time.
Alright, Music in My ShoesMailbag.
(01:36):
So, listener Robert in Hartwell,Georgia writes, I have a little
game I'd like you two to playsince music is a competition.
SPEAKER_01 (01:46):
Ooh.
SPEAKER_02 (01:47):
Both of you picked your favorite in the below
head-to-head battles.
I've got to say, this is apretty cool idea.
When I read this, I was like,man, this is like, this is
definitely leadoff material.
SPEAKER_01 (02:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (02:02):
And I think Robert really put some effort and some
time into it when thinking ofwho to have, you know, battling
each other.
All right.
Thanks, Robert.
Let's get into the list.
So, you know, there's no rightor wrong because music is not a
competition, even though Robertsays it is.
It is a competition, I guess, ifwe're picking who we think is
(02:23):
the better.
True.
So, Jimmy, Rolling Stones versusthe Who.
SPEAKER_00 (02:29):
Hmm.
Yeah.
Um I would say definitely theRolling Stones, because they had
more longevity.
I think the Rolling Stones werebetter for longer.
I think there were time periodswhere the Who was better than
the Rolling Stones.
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But I don't think that the Whocontinued to put out good stuff
as long as the Rolling Stonesdid.
SPEAKER_02 (02:59):
Did I mention the Who was on their 32nd final
farewell tour?
SPEAKER_00 (03:04):
Yeah.
Right?
Like I learned how to playguitar the first time I ever
played in front of people was ata talent show at high school,
and I learned summertime bluesoff of the album Who's Last?
That was their last album fromtheir last tour.
And no, it wasn't.
SPEAKER_02 (03:24):
No, it wasn't.
SPEAKER_00 (03:26):
That was 1985 at that time.
SPEAKER_02 (03:28):
So for me, and I think you know my answer, Jimmy.
Real quick, I don't even have tothink.
It's Rolling Stones.
Like immediately, I would saythe Rolling Stones.
And I look at their work, allthe different types of music
that they've done.
If you look through all thedifferent decades and how
sometimes they would be able tomorph into what was happening at
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the time, but other times theywere leaders.
And if you look at the early 70swith the who, you know, not just
the early 70s.
If you look at 68, 60s, youknow, really, I guess 69 to
through the early 70s, and youput the who and the Rolling
Stones together, music was justincredible.
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Absolutely incredible at thattime.
SPEAKER_00 (04:12):
Aaron Powell And what was that that movie that
they made that never gotreleased that had the who and
the Rolling Stones in it?
SPEAKER_02 (04:18):
It was called the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll
Circus.
SPEAKER_00 (04:21):
Aaron Powell Yeah.
So I mean they were definitelyfriends and contemporaries and
were pushing each other, Ithink, in a certain way.
SPEAKER_02 (04:28):
Aaron Powell Yeah, I think one of the reasons they
didn't release it is the Who dida much better job, but that's
because they played early in theevening and the Rolling Stones
stayed up over 24 hours beforethey actually tried to perform.
We know that that generallydoesn't work out well.
True.
Led Zeppelin versus Aerosmith.
SPEAKER_00 (04:47):
Aaron Powell Well, for me, I mean it's an easy Led
Zeppelin.
I I'm not a huge Aerosmith fan.
I like I like kind of the hits.
I like the I like the firstalbum really.
I don't even know if I like thehits.
I I don't like the like the latethe 80s hits that they had, but
I I like the first album.
I like Dream On and that stuff.
And and maybe Toys in the Attic,yeah.
(05:08):
Soys in the Attic is a goodalbum.
That's that's what I think.
Led Zeppelin, like every albumhas great songs on it.
SPEAKER_02 (05:15):
Yeah, and you know, I agree.
And I I think I like Aerosmithmore than you do.
Led Zeppelin, I just think ismuch better.
And it's no disrespect towardsAerosmith.
Uh just what Led Zeppelin didand what Led Zeppelin kind of
turned me on to blues, yeah,they they kind of ripped off
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some of the stuff, but it wasstuff that I got exposed to that
I never would have been had theynot done it.
SPEAKER_00 (05:41):
Aaron Powell Yeah.
I mean, hey, mm music's allabout borrowing things and they
they made it their own.
SPEAKER_02 (05:47):
Aaron Ross Powell So instead of saying music is not a
competition, we're just gonna gowith music is borrowing?
SPEAKER_00 (05:53):
Yeah.
It's like a cup of sugar, yeah,sure.
I think it's a cup of sugar.
Yeah, you borrow an egg and thenthey borrow a cup of sugar.
SPEAKER_02 (06:03):
I got it.
I got it.
I like it.
With that, let's move on.
Pink Floyd versus Queen.
SPEAKER_00 (06:10):
Ah, okay.
You know, I I like Queen and Ilike uh why don't you go first
on this one?
I keep going first.
SPEAKER_02 (06:18):
Yeah, Pink Floyd.
I I don't even have to thinkabout it.
It's just that quick.
Pink Floyd to me, when you lookat the Sid Barrett days from the
late 60s, and then once he wasout of the band and Roger Waters
was really doing everything andthe albums that came out, and
you know, David Gilmore, hisguitar work and the vocals when
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Roger would let him, you know,it's just fantastic.
I don't have anything againstQueen, and I've been accused of
that multiple times.
You know, I like some of theirstuff.
I'm just not a huge Queen fan.
SPEAKER_00 (06:53):
I'm I'm the same way.
I like their stuff.
Um, I I got to see them, but youknow, of course, not with
Freddie Mercury.
I saw them uh several years ago,and they were they put on a
great show, they have a lot ofreally good songs, but Pink
Floyd were so original.
And uh, yeah, of course, theQueen was original too, but Pink
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Floyd, there was nothing likethat music, and they did those
records that really had a storyarc that flowed through the
whole record, and they they justreally uh uh broke a lot of
ground and made a lot of greatmusic.
So I'm saying Pink Floyd aswell.
SPEAKER_02 (07:34):
There you go.
Eagles versus Fleetwood Mac.
I'll go first.
So I'm not a huge Eagles fan.
I love Joe Walsh.
I like some of the Eagles stuff.
I love Hotel California.
Love Hotel California.
I think it's that's in my tophundred songs of all time.
Love that song.
But as a whole, you know, I'mnot a huge Eagles fan.
Fleetwood Mac brings me back towhen I was younger as a kid, and
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all the songs that they wouldplay on the radio.
If I hear that, it just bringsme back to that time.
And I just kind of like all ofthat.
And it just seemed that theywere just coming out with
something all the time.
I didn't like Desperado by theEagles.
That just wasn't my thing.
What was it, New Kid in Town?
That just wasn't my thing.
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Fleetwood Mac had a lot moresongs that I liked.
SPEAKER_00 (08:23):
That's a really good point.
You know, Fleetwood Mac had alot more kind of classic rock,
and and some of the Eagles songsdid veer into easy listening or
something.
What do you call New Kid inTown?
You know, it's kind of yeah.
Um, but I am I'm a pretty bigEagles fan.
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I love their I love their rocksongs, you know, things like
Already Gone and HotelCalifornia.
I think that's one of the bestguitar solos in in the business.
And so I think, yeah, the theEagles, the quality of guitar
players they had, starting withJoe Walsh, but also Don Felder,
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everybody they've had sincethen.
I mean, they've of course GlennFry was no slouch, and now
they've got Vince Gill thatplays with them when they tour,
and he's amazing.
But um, yeah, as a as a bigguitar fan, I would definitely
take those guys over LindsayBuckingham, and I'm taking the
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Eagles over Fleetwood Mac.
SPEAKER_02 (09:29):
You heard it here first.
Sounded like you were Jimmy theGreek and you were making some
prediction for some big game orsomething.
SPEAKER_00 (09:36):
Yeah, hey, uh I've got a 900 number if uh anybody
wants to pay.
It's only$3 a minute, and I'lltell you uh all my picks for
other artists.
SPEAKER_02 (09:48):
I forgot about that, but isn't it funny?
That's kind of what FleetwoodMac reminds me of.
You know, I bring up Jimmy theGreek, you know, he was on uh
CBS Sunday football, and youknow, like you said, kind of
making picks and telling you whohe thought was, you know, gonna
be the big winner or whatever,and there was one 900 numbers
where you would call and theywould give you their picks and
(10:09):
you know, guaranteed winners andand so forth.
So there's no guaranteed winnershere, but ACDC versus Van Halen.
SPEAKER_00 (10:18):
I'm ACDC all day long.
SPEAKER_02 (10:21):
Yeah, me too.
I like Van Halen.
I like Van Halen a lot.
But when you put that like that,it's ACDC.
And it's ACDC whether it's BonScott or whether it's Brian
Johnson on vocals, it's straightup ACDC for me.
SPEAKER_00 (10:36):
Aaron Powell And and then also for me, it's only
David Lee Roth.
Like I'm not a fan at all of VanHagar.
unknown (10:44):
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02 (10:44):
Yeah, I'm a big David Lee Roth fan.
Last year I saw Sammy Hagar.
He was doing the best of bothworlds tour.
We talked about it.
And I like some of his solostuff.
I you know, different thingsthat he's done.
He did some of the stuff he didwith uh Van Halen.
You know, it was a good show.
I really enjoyed it, but I doprefer David Lee Roth.
unknown (11:05):
Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.
SPEAKER_00 (11:05):
Not these days, but back in his day, he he was
great.
SPEAKER_02 (11:10):
Yeah, he was.
Bruce Springsteen versus TomPetty.
SPEAKER_00 (11:15):
You go.
SPEAKER_02 (11:16):
Tom Petty.
I'm not a big Bruce Springsteenfan.
I grew up in New York.
Everybody seemed to be hugeBruce fans.
Like from all the early albums,even as we were young kids,
people were just like the boss,Bruce Springsteen.
And I tend when people are justso much into something like
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that, those turn those thingskind of turn me off.
And I don't really go to it.
Now, I I've been to a BruceSpringsteen concert.
We talked about it before.
I tried to save aboyfriend-girlfriend
relationship in like 1988 orsomething.
And I like some of the songsthat he sings, but I'm not a
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huge fan by any means.
And Tom Petty has so many songsI don't even think I can
remember all of them.
SPEAKER_00 (12:04):
True.
I have a lot of respect forBruce Springsteen.
You know, he's he's a reallygood songwriter.
He's like he puts on amazinglylong shows for people still.
I think he he'll play for fourhours and stuff.
So I mean, I think that's reallycool that he he still loves
playing that much.
But I'm with you.
I mean, Tom Petty.
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And the great thing about TomPetty, and this is kind of true
of Bruce too, is like so manyrock artists changed in the 80s
to get that 80s sound and bepoppier.
And you know, even the cars,even uh certainly, you know,
Jefferson airplane turned intoStarship, and they did that song
(12:47):
that we will not mention.
But Springsteen and Tom Pettyboth just stayed true to their
roots through the through the80s, more so Petty, though.
You know, Tom Petty never putout an embarrassing song in the
1980s that I can think of.
SPEAKER_02 (13:03):
No, not at all.
SPEAKER_00 (13:04):
And the only other artist really that comes to mind
that kind of was steadfast withrock and roll was uh was John
Mellencamp.
And that's that's how scarcegood like classic rock was on
the radio in the mid 80s.
That those were like the threeguys that were still putting it
out, and everybody else waseither doing pop or or hair
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metal or you know, so anyway,yeah.
Uh Tom Petty.
I saw Tom Petty probably 2005 orsomething like that at what was
then Phillips Arena, and he puton a really good show, but he
had no video screens.
It was like you were at aconcert in 1977.
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It was just the guys on thestage with some lights, and it
was it was unusual even for for2005 to not have any video
screens, and but he soundedreally good.
SPEAKER_02 (14:04):
I'm sure it was cheaper to do the show, do the
tour.
SPEAKER_00 (14:08):
Well, now that you mention it, I went because I
like Tom Petty, but I also wentbecause we got some sort of
deal.
I think I worked at Turner then,and I think because Turner, the
company that owned Turner, alsoowned Phillips Arena at the
time.
We got some sort of employeething where I think it was like
20 bucks or something, like,hey, the show's tonight.
(14:29):
You want a ticket to Tom Pettyfor 20 bucks?
So my wife and I went.
SPEAKER_02 (14:33):
Yeah, you can't turn that down, Tom Petty.
I I saw Tom Petty, I think thefirst time was probably 87, and
that was in New York at JonesBeach.
Uh I think it was 91.
I saw Tom Petty at LakewoodAmphitheater, and then I saw him
two more times, the last timebeing at Music Midtown in 2004,
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maybe.
SPEAKER_00 (14:58):
So yeah, Tom Petty died uh sadly in 2017, right?
SPEAKER_02 (15:01):
Yeah.
I wish I had gone to see he did,I think, his 40th anniversary
tour, and then he uh then hepassed away.
So if we move on with our list,and I like this list, I think
this is pretty cool.
Gives us an opportunity to talkabout different things.
SPEAKER_00 (15:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (15:16):
Scorpions versus Def Leopard.
SPEAKER_00 (15:18):
Yeah.
I I have can can I abstain?
I don't know.
Uh I will say, okay, the DefLeppard came out with Pyromania.
Wasn't that the name of thealbum?
SPEAKER_01 (15:32):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00 (15:33):
Pyromania came out when I was in the eighth grade.
Eighth grade, high schoolstarted in the eighth grade at
that time in Atlanta.
And so I was in high school asthis sub-freshman, and that
album was hot, and everybodylistened to it, and I really
enjoyed it, you know, as aneighth grader.
And then I I never really stuckwith them, but I never got into
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the Scorpions really at all.
I mean, Rocky Like a Hurricane,right?
I think that was the that wasone, and that probably came out
that same year.
So uh I'll I'll go Def Leopard.
SPEAKER_02 (16:05):
I like it.
I think before that album, theyhad an album that had one song
on it, Bringing On theHeartache.
Oh, yeah.
Bringing on the heartbreak,bringing on the heartaches.
I can't remember.
And I thought that song waspretty cool.
Pretty pretty cool rock song.
And they just kind of gotbetter, but then they started to
get into that 80s pop thing, youknow, kind of like you were
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talking about, where they kindof changed.
And I know they had to change alittle bit with Rick Allen when
he lost his arm in the caraccident and they had to do some
electronic drums.
But, you know, it just kind ofchanged, you know, by the time
they got to pour some sugar onme and everything, but I'll
still take Def Leppard over theScorpions as a whole.
Agreed.
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Rush versus Yes.
I'm gonna go rush.
It's just quick.
I have always liked yes,listened to them a lot when I
was younger because my unclelistened to them.
And when I would go to mygrandparents' house, I would
hear them a lot in, you know,the early mid-70s.
But I think when you just lookat Rush and the overall work and
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uh the type of music that it is,that type of rock, I like much
better than I do the overall ofyes.
The 90125 album, I was a seniorin high school and listened to
that to a ton, you know,definitely much different than
what they had done.
Shorter songs, definitely morepoppy, very different from their
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early 80s stuff that um or notjust early 80s, but 70s stuff
that they had done.
But I'm gonna go with Rush.
SPEAKER_00 (17:40):
I'm with you too, and I'm gonna go back to uh the
skating rink in the sixth grade,and Tom Sawyer was out at that
point, which you know what wasthat maybe about 1980, 81.
And I I enjoyed Tom Sawyer andthe other songs that were on
that record.
I never got too deep into Rush,but I never got into yes
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whatsoever.
So it's Rush.
SPEAKER_02 (18:04):
Modern Day Warrior.
Sticks vs.
Kansas.
SPEAKER_00 (18:09):
Well, this is going downhill fast.
Um I've seen Sticks twice.
SPEAKER_02 (18:17):
I've seen Sticks once.
They played after Braves game,Mets played the Braves.
Yeah.
And they played in the infield.
SPEAKER_00 (18:26):
Have they done that more than once?
Because I was there.
SPEAKER_02 (18:28):
I I don't know that they have, but I was I had great
seats and went to it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:32):
Yeah, we I was like dugout level, and we were with
some friends that are big Styxfans, and we had been to Sticks
with them at Lakewood a fewyears earlier.
So this was probably 2009 orsomething like that.
Is that when you think it was?
SPEAKER_02 (18:50):
Uh quite possibly, yes.
I took my in-laws because myfather-in-law was a huge Styx
fan, and I had seats, I hadgotten seats behind the Mets
dugout, and so we were realclose on the third base side,
and I remember them saying, uh,for the concert, if you're
sitting here or here or here,you gotta move, and just
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remembering it doesn't matterbecause I know we don't have to
move.
And they did a great, greatshow.
I enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_00 (19:18):
So I as a little kid, uh Come Sail Away was out.
I want to say, you know, thatwas like 1976 or something,
right?
That was pretty early that thatsong was out, and I loved that
song, just it took you on ajourney, you know.
It was one of those songs likeBand on the Run that kind of has
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all these different parts, andlike, wow, this is still the
same song.
So I I enjoyed that, and uh Iwas not really a Mr.
Roboto fan, but that's one ofthose earworms you can't get out
of your head sometimes.
SPEAKER_02 (19:54):
Um I agree with you on that.
For me, for Kansas, it would becarry on my wayward son.
Like it that just seemed to besomething as I got older and you
were with people and they weredoing something like, Oh, carry
on my wayward son.
You know, like you just you knowsay it as a saying type thing,
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and you know, dust in the wind.
And I hated that song.
All we are is dust in the wind.
SPEAKER_00 (20:21):
It was so depressing.
I'm like, ugh.
Really?
That's all we are?
SPEAKER_02 (20:25):
It really was.
SPEAKER_00 (20:26):
Um, so I I do like that Will Farrell does he sings
a Kansas song in a lot of hismovies.
Have you known that?
I did not realize that.
I think in old school, when whenthe old man that's in their
fraternity dies, like mudwrestling or something, I think
he sings Dust in the Wind.
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Uh, but he might sing Carry OnWayward Son.
He he does several movies hesings Kansas songs in.
SPEAKER_02 (20:54):
Blue's my boy.
SPEAKER_00 (20:56):
Blue's my boy.
That's right.
SPEAKER_02 (20:58):
So Styx Kansas, I think that we're at a tie.
Um, I'm going sticks.
Are you?
Yeah.
You know what?
For my father-in-law, who's nolonger with us, who loved
Sticks, and the last show thathe went to see Sticks in his
wheelchair and was trying torock out as best he could, I got
that shirt.
I'm gonna go with Sticks.
SPEAKER_00 (21:18):
And you know, Kansas does have a relation here
because the house that I play atat Virginia Highlands Porch Fest
used to be the lead singer'shouse.
SPEAKER_02 (21:28):
I did not know that.
Yeah.
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (21:31):
And he built um, there's apparently Hopefully not
this city, like a studio in thebasement that they the owners
now don't use it for that.
But he built out a studio and hehas like a rotunda in the front
where he had his piano.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:44):
Wow.
I did not know that.
I learned something like that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:47):
Sorry, Kansas.
I picked sticks, but I don'tknow.
SPEAKER_02 (21:49):
All right, let's move on.
Foo Fighters versus Nirvana.
SPEAKER_00 (21:53):
Okay, Robert's.
This is this is starting to getin Robert's territory here, I
have a feeling.
Uh I am a bigger Nirvana fanthan a Foo Fighters fan.
I really appreciate what DaveGrohl does.
He puts on an amazing show.
He's kind of likesingle-handedly helped keep rock
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and roll going on a large scale.
Like, how many other big touringrock bands can you think of that
are like the Foo Fighters?
They've really endured.
So hats off to him.
Nirvana was short-lived, but Ijust thought what they did and
what Kurt Cobain's songwritingdid just flipped music on its
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head and and really made adifference and changed things.
So I'm going Nirvana.
SPEAKER_02 (22:40):
I couldn't agree with you more.
I mean, to me, it's not evenclose.
It's Nirvana, hands down, rightaway.
I agree with you from seeing theFoo Fighters.
Like when I was there, I feltlike I was at an old-time rock
and roll concert.
And I appreciate that.
But in this case, Nirvana,Nirvana, Nirvana.
(23:01):
Yep.
Mick Jagger versus Steven Tyler.
SPEAKER_00 (23:04):
Oh, we're going back to the Aerosmith well.
Definitely Mick Jagger.
Mick Jagger.
So there is there is a famouspicture.
You know the one I'm talkingabout?
Of Steven Tyler early on in theAerosmith's career, and he's
wearing a shirt, one of thosewith the iron-on letters that
you can tell they made itthemselves.
Yeah.
(23:24):
You know, Spencer gifts at themall.
And it says, Who the hell isMick Jagger?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (23:30):
Robert Plant versus Freddie Mercury.
I'm sure you know that MickJagger was for me.
Robert Plant versus FreddieMercury.
Robert Plant being the leadsinger of Led Zeppelin.
SPEAKER_00 (23:40):
Well, this is interesting because didn't we do
Led Zeppelin versus Queen?
Or was that a different matchup?
SPEAKER_02 (23:46):
I'm going to have to look.
I don't remember.
I didn't.
It was Led Zeppelin Arrow Smithand Pink Floyd versus Queen.
Now we're doing Robert Plantversus Freddie Mercury.
SPEAKER_00 (23:58):
You know, for some weird reason, I'm going to go
Freddie Mercury.
I think that he was just such anamazing front man.
I think people still copy him tothis day, his his vocal style,
his way that he layered vocals,the way that he brought things
from musical theater into rockand roll and made it work and
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made made this kind of moregrand music out of it.
And the way that he couldcontrol a crowd was
unprecedented.
I'm sure Robert Plant was goodat it too, but he was a little
more self-absorbed.
I think Freddie Mercury was alot more extroverted on stage
and like really connecting theaudience.
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He did that whole Deo thing.
Right.
And people like, you know, BillyJoe Armstrong still does that
every show.
SPEAKER_02 (24:51):
I hear what you're saying, but I've got to go with
Robert Plant.
I getcha.
It's been a long time since Irock and roll, and that's it.
Just listen to the rest of it.
He was a fantastic front man forrock at a time, you know, that
rock was a big, big thing.
And I love it.
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Roger Daltrey versus JimMorrison.
I think this is the mostintriguing out of everything
that we've talked about.
Very, very different.
Roger Daltrey, lead singer ofthe Who.
Jim Morrison, lead singer of thedoors.
SPEAKER_00 (25:26):
What do you think?
SPEAKER_02 (25:28):
I love Jim Morrison.
Okay?
I say that I love the Who.
I don't think I've ever said Ilove Roger Daltrey.
Yeah.
I love Jim Morrison.
Just his voice, his poetry thathe would break out while they
were doing concerts and songs,you know, his antics.
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I have to go Jim Morrison.
SPEAKER_00 (25:51):
Again, somebody that the audience, every, you know,
15,000 people in that arenacouldn't take their eyes off of
him because he had thatconnection with the audience.
And to me, Daltrey's more like,oh, he's a singer.
It's almost like he's on a TVshow or something, you know?
Like he kind of just strutsaround and sings into his
microphone.
SPEAKER_02 (26:12):
And he always looks so good all the time.
SPEAKER_00 (26:14):
Yeah, right.
He's so such a pretty boy.
He's a what they call a teddyboy over there in England.
SPEAKER_02 (26:19):
Is that what they call him?
SPEAKER_00 (26:20):
Yeah.
That was the punks versus theteddies were the big uh riots,
and the teddies all like thewho.
SPEAKER_02 (26:25):
Oh.
Jim Morrison was the lizardking, and he was very
charismatic.
You know, if you ever watch himdo an interview, you just watch
him sing, and you never knewwhat you were gonna get on any
given night.
Never knew.
Billy Joel versus Elton John.
SPEAKER_00 (26:40):
Huh.
Okay.
Um Billy Joel, his early stuff,he really wrote his own songs,
he wrote his own lyrics, andcreated something that I of
course he was a piano player,and and Elton John had done that
earlier than him.
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But I think Billy Joel wasreally original in the style
that he was doing, and he waswriting both his lyrics and the
music.
Now, Elton John wasn't writinglyrics, and when he did attempt
to write lyrics in the 80s, theyweren't very good.
He needed Bernie Taupin to writethe lyrics, so that's one
markdown for Elton.
(27:21):
Um the problem is I probablylike more Elton John's songs
than I do Billy Joel songs.
And and Billy Joel in the eight,like Uptown Girl is annoying to
me.
I'm still standing's annoying,but I don't know if it's as
annoying as Uptown Girl, so I'mgoing Elton John.
SPEAKER_02 (27:44):
I guess that's why the Call with the Blues, I
think, is one of the greatestsongs of all time.
And it is, I think a song thatcame out when it came out, it
was a song that I kind of neededat that point in time, you know,
really could relate to the wordsand everything.
And the fact that it was kind oflike Elton's definitely back
now.
You know, he had been gone for anumber of years with those bad
(28:06):
records and trying to write hisown songs.
Billy Joel, you know, I grew upon Long Island.
Billy Joel was a huge part of,you know, local radio, and you
heard him all the time.
Like I don't remember nothearing Billy Joel on the radio
and have seen Billy Joel moretimes than I can count.
Well, I've seen Elton John aton.
(28:28):
I've seen Elton John and BillyJoel together play a show.
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
Oh, that's right.
They used to do the uh duelingpiano thing.
SPEAKER_02 (28:36):
And it's so difficult to try and pick one,
but I would probably go withBilly Joel because it's like
more of a personal connection.
We talked about the Glass Housesalbum and in the summer of 1980
and you know, the fall of 1980with Glass Houses, how you know
(28:56):
the songs played for a long timeand they helped through through
different things for young13-year-old me.
I would have to go with withBilly Joel.
I think Billy Joel, his albumsup until his last album, all I
could I I could relate to all ofit.
Like I was growing up as BillyJoel was growing up, kind of
thing, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_00 (29:17):
Where are you on Uptown Girl?
SPEAKER_02 (29:19):
No, I don't hate it.
You know, I'll listen to it.
It's not on my phone if you'reasking.
SPEAKER_00 (29:23):
We didn't start the fire, where are you on that?
SPEAKER_02 (29:25):
Uh you know, I I don't hate it, but it's not on
my phone.
Okay.
I I'll say that.
You know, it's I think that hereached a point where sometimes
the the fame and the fortune,you know, overshadows the work
that you're doing, and you thinkthat you can do this and and it
gets you more fame and fortune,and you give up certain things.
(29:49):
And that ha happened with DeltonJohn with with not having Bernie
writing, and and it happens to aton of people.
But I don't hate uh you know,Uptown Girl or Or anything.
I think we talked about BillyJoel.
It was one of the first thingswe ever talked about where you
had said, Yeah, I I don't reallylike Billy Joel, and I said
(30:11):
something to the effect like uhI I'm not making excuses or I I
have no problem telling you thatI like Billy Joel.
SPEAKER_00 (30:19):
You might have informed me that music is not a
competition.
SPEAKER_02 (30:22):
Trevor Burrus That might have w been where it came
from, all due to Uptown Girl andso forth.
But you know what?
It's kind of what what we likeand what we're used to.
And like I said, Billy Joel wasplayed all the time.
I mean, I'm from Levittown, NewYork.
Even though Billy Joel was fromHicksville, at the end of his
shows, he always used to say,Hey, I'm from Levittown, and he
(30:43):
hung out in Levittown, and hewould say that he he grew up in
a Levit house.
And if you go to the Long IslandMusic Hall of Fame, they even
have all this Levittown stuff upin the exhibit that they have
for Billy Joel.
So I kind of have like thatpersonal connection, even though
I don't know Billy Joel any morethan I know Elton John.
(31:06):
So hey, listen, let's move on.
Prince versus David Bowie.
SPEAKER_00 (31:11):
Woo! Those are two amazing, iconic artists that uh
you just hate to pick one or theother.
But I never got to see DavidBowie live.
And I've heard he was reallygreat live.
Um, he he also went through alot of different eras, and you
(31:33):
know, he had a Ziggy Stardust,and he had all like we talked
about, his ashes to ashes andeverything in between.
And so I got a lot of respectfor him, but I saw the Prince
Musicology Tour, which was maybeuh early 2000s, and he blew the
(31:57):
doors off that place.
That guy could play guitar likenobody else.
I mean, he belongs on every listof greatest guitarists, and he
has so many hits, he has so manygreat songs, and talk about
being a guy that has the crowdin the palm of his hand.
I mean, Prince had that.
(32:18):
So I'm I'm going Prince.
SPEAKER_02 (32:20):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with David Bowie, and for me,
it's it's quick to David Bowie.
I love David Bowie.
I love him through all thedifferent periods of his career,
and even when he did covers, youknow, he did China Girl, which
was originally an Iggy Pop song,and then he I didn't know that.
Yes, he made it his own and hewould make songs his own.
But, you know, when you listento Major Tom or you listen to
(32:45):
anything off the Ziggy Stardustalbum, you know, The Rise and
Fall, if you just listen to thesong Life on Mars, I mean
they're just absolutelyfantastic songs that I continue
to listen to that are just fromthese periods of rock and roll
that you can still listen andenjoy now.
(33:10):
It's David Bowie for me.
All right, I get it.
All right, we're gonna finish uphere.
Axel Rose versus Bon Scott slashBrian Johnson.
SPEAKER_00 (33:19):
Oh, wait, okay, so they're sharing a spot.
Yeah.
I think it's easy for both ofus, but maybe not.
You go first.
SPEAKER_02 (33:25):
Yeah, it's real easy.
It's Bon Scott, Brian Johnson.
I mean, for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (33:30):
Between the two of them, who is it?
SPEAKER_02 (33:32):
Uh I'd have to go Brian Johnson.
Okay.
I'm gonna go Bon Scott.
I would go Brian Johnson.
Even though I was a big ACDCfan, we I've talked about it
more times than I care tomention.
That, you know, when Bon Scottdied, I'm like, oh, that's it,
ACDC's over.
We talked about me telling VinnyGiacaloni that.
And sure enough, within a coupleof months, all of a sudden you
(33:54):
shook me all night long.
So what did I know as a13-year-old, you know?
SPEAKER_00 (33:59):
It's pretty unprecedented though, and they
they somehow did it.
SPEAKER_02 (34:02):
Yeah.
They were the blueprint.
SPEAKER_00 (34:04):
Yeah, I'm gonna go Bon Scott uh just because his
vocal style, man, had anybodyever sounded like that?
SPEAKER_02 (34:12):
No.
Did anyone ever play thebagpipes like that?
SPEAKER_00 (34:15):
Yeah.
And I actually looked up BonScott before ACDC to see what he
was up to, and it's hilarious.
You can find some old videosfrom like Australian TV of him
in these pop bands that aredoing like yummy, yummy.
I got love in my tummy orsomething.
And he was a pop singer, andsomehow he turned into the Bon
(34:39):
Scott in ACDC.
So it was pretty funny.
SPEAKER_02 (34:44):
I really appreciate that being sent in and enjoyed
going back and forth and takinga look at, you know, the
non-competition competition.
That was a lot of fun.
The top five most listened toepisodes since the show began.
(35:07):
Are you ready for this, Jimmy?
Yes.
Number one, it's the firstepisode.
All right.
So let's just do like the topseven instead, because you know,
everybody will listen to thefirst one.
They'll see if it's somethingthey like.
Yeah.
And in in all honesty, the showis much different than what it
was on episode one.
I think that if you start, youknow, at episode 20, I'm just
(35:29):
throwing a number out there,you'll see how different it is,
you know, more in the directionof where we're going today.
SPEAKER_00 (35:35):
If people could hear episode one that we threw away,
then it was really different.
SPEAKER_02 (35:40):
Yeah.
Much, much different.
SPEAKER_00 (35:42):
You know, you're never hearing that, folks.
SPEAKER_02 (35:44):
The episode that no one's heard.
You were right about that.
And we're gonna keep it thatway.
But number seven, episodethirty-eight, the real My
Sharona interview.
Again, loved it, loved havingSharona on.
It was fantastic.
I think we were the onlyinterview she did in 2024.
SPEAKER_00 (36:02):
Wow.
And she told us she was onlygonna do five minutes or
something, and she talked to usfor 20 minutes.
SPEAKER_02 (36:08):
Yes, she did.
Yes, she did.
Number six, episode 21, materialissue, the Ted Ansani interview.
Okay, we're going through thetop seven episodes listened to
by you, the listeners, since theshow began.
Number five, episode four,Nirvana, MTV Unplugged, 30th
(36:31):
anniversary, friend of the show,Chris Cassidy.
Yes.
Number four, episode 29, Drivingand Crying, the Kevin Kinney
interview, another friend of theshow.
Number three, episode 34, APB,Ian Slater and George Chain
interview.
(36:52):
And that was fantastic.
They called in from Scotland,and it was great, you know,
having a conversation with them.
And seeing them a few weeks agoplaying up in New York, loved
it.
Great time.
Number two, episode 32, Let'sActive and Early REM producer,
Mitch Easter interview.
(37:12):
Again, probably the highlight ofthat is when you asked him how
they got the sound for thebeginning of Radio Free Europe.
That is correct.
And so many people like that.
And on social media, I knowpeople were reposting that
saying you gotta listen if youwant to know how they did that.
(37:34):
And then number one, as Imentioned before, the first
episode titled Pilot.
The episode with the leastlistens is a bit of a surprise
to me.
Episode 62, Paul McCartney'sTokyo Troubles, Downtown, and
The King of Rock.
(37:55):
Least listened to show out ofall of the shows.
SPEAKER_00 (37:58):
Weird.
SPEAKER_02 (37:59):
Even the 2024, I think it was called The Baker's
Dozen, where we kind of recapped2024.
That got more listens than thePaul McCartney's Tokyo Trouble.
SPEAKER_00 (38:11):
So go listen to it, folks.
Save that show.
SPEAKER_02 (38:15):
Yeah, let's bring the numbers up.
Let's see what we can do.
You know what?
I think now we should look backat some of the funny moments
here on Music in My Shoes.
I've got bloopers in my shoes.
How about you?
I've got bloopers in my shoes.
How about you?
We got music in our shoes.
We've got music in our hair.
(38:36):
We've got everything you wantbecause we care.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something old.
Rock and roll girls peaked atnumber 20, April 27, 85.
And the single centerfold peakedat number 44.
SPEAKER_00 (38:56):
Uh, center field.
SPEAKER_02 (39:04):
Oh, Jay Giles band.
All right.
And the single.
All right, Jimmy, hold on.
Ready?
Yeah.
And the single center feed.
Oh boy.
SPEAKER_00 (39:22):
I realized I never poured myself a glass of water,
and I so I I'm gonna grab thatwhile we're stopped.
Jimmy's getting water, water,water, Jimmy's getting water.
SPEAKER_02 (39:31):
What she said, nowhere fast, or barbar.
Or barbar Barbarism.
Oh, can we try that one moretime?
Yeah.
Or Barbarism begins at home,which I love.
I think that song is fantastic.
SPEAKER_01 (39:54):
Did you hear that?
SPEAKER_02 (39:56):
Wait, you might have to make a mark.
SPEAKER_01 (39:57):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (39:58):
What the heck was that?
Oh.
Sorry, I didn't turn off.
Turn my GPS off.
SPEAKER_00 (40:04):
Will Farrell?
SPEAKER_02 (40:05):
Yeah.
As the cowboy.
Oh, God, I my voice.
Sorry.
Hold on.
SPEAKER_00 (40:10):
You got Will Farrell.
SPEAKER_02 (40:12):
As the cowboy.
As the cowboy.
One more time, Jimmy.
SPEAKER_00 (40:16):
Yeah, I wasn't into Donna Summer.
SPEAKER_02 (40:19):
You look like Donna Summer.
Hey I'm not even sure what thatwas supposed to mean.
Oh man.
Oh, that was funny.
To make a mark, then we need toget rid of that part.
SPEAKER_00 (40:34):
I also realized I need my phone for Minute with
Jimmy, and I think I left it inthe car.
So let me find it.
SPEAKER_02 (40:42):
Okay.
So right now you're listening toA Minute Without Jimmy.
Let's learn something as I'malways.
Okay.
Sorry about that.
It's okay.
And the only single on thealbum, the autobiography.
(41:02):
Autobiographal.
The autobiographical.
Oh my God.
I said it right, but I'm justlaughing.
I'm sorry, Jimmy.
I'm making Jimmy work today.
And on percussion, Ray Cooter.
And it's not Rai Cooter.
I did this the last time.
(41:24):
I wanted to say.
Oh my God.
Is this exactly the way the lasttime I brought up Elton John?
SPEAKER_00 (41:34):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (41:35):
Isn't it Ray Cooper?
Hold on, Jimmy.
God.
Yes, it's Ray Cooper.
All right, you ready?
Yeah.
And we're changing our ways,making different roads.
(41:56):
Oh my God.
We can't put that on the air.
SPEAKER_00 (42:02):
All right.
SPEAKER_02 (42:03):
The biggest of the thing.
SPEAKER_00 (42:06):
He was talking about his muscles.
SPEAKER_02 (42:08):
Oh yeah, that doesn't they didn't come across
like that at all.
Oh God.
Let me take a deep breath.
All right, you ready?
Jimmy, with you being thesubject matter on Jimmy, let me
do it one more time.
Jimmy, with you being the subJimmy.
Okay, you ready?
(42:29):
Yeah.
So anyway, that's a a little bitof a quick summer 1980 poof for
me.
SPEAKER_00 (42:38):
I don't know if that's the right term.
SPEAKER_02 (42:40):
Oh, all right, let me try this again.
So after that, Dire Straitsfollows up with money for
nothing.
Oh God, I just burped.
Let's try it again one moretime.
Jimmy, why don't you drink alittle bit more water there?
(43:00):
Okay.
You good?
Mm-hmm.
I'm not sure what has happened.
But it's happening.
And hearing, you know, Don'tStop Believing, Go Your Own Way,
songs that were on the radio allthe time, and it just kind of
brings me back to that time.
SPEAKER_00 (43:21):
Don't stop believing.
SPEAKER_02 (43:22):
Did I say don't stop believing?
SPEAKER_00 (43:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (43:28):
No, I didn't.
I did.
Okay.
All right, we'll leave it then.
Wait, the 90210 album?
SPEAKER_00 (43:35):
That's not right, Jim.
Somebody should have given him ajuicer, you know?
I mean, that lemon isn't gonnasqueeze itself, but apparently,
like, he needed someone else todo it.
SPEAKER_02 (43:49):
Oh, I don't even know what to say, Jimmy.
I don't know what to say.
It's the 100th episode.
There you go.
Jimmy, that was fantastic.
Reliving some of those momentsthat I forgot that we actually
did.
And sometimes that's how it isin the studio.
SPEAKER_00 (44:04):
Yeah, and uh I've been saving those for the last
year or so without you knowingabout it.
So I I just sprung this on Jimlast week, I think.
I said, Hey, by the way, for thehundredth episode, we could do
these bloopers.
And uh Jim couldn't stoplaughing at him, at us, at all
of our malaprops.
SPEAKER_02 (44:25):
Yeah, and it's true.
I listened to it in the car onthe way home.
I listened to it on my Bluetoothspeaker at home, and then I went
walking and listened to it on myheadphones as I was walking, and
I'm hysterical as I'm walkingpast people, and people are
looking at me like, what's goingon?
SPEAKER_00 (44:43):
They thought you were an escaped mental patient.
SPEAKER_02 (44:45):
Yeah, I was acting that way because I laughed
pretty hard.
You know what, Jimmy?
Tick, tick, tick.
It's Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for a minute withJimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute
with Jimmy.
It's time for a minute withJimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute
with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_00 (45:00):
So Jim thinks I'm gonna talk about an album from
1980.
But what I decided, since it'sthe hundredth episode, I wanted
to talk about how grateful I amfor this show.
Because Jim came in, I didn'tknow him.
He was a friend of a friend, andhe came into the studio to
record something.
(45:21):
We did the aforementioned uhepisode that you know nobody's
gonna hear.
And then he came back in and hesaid, Well, how about you be on
the mic too?
And that way I can be talking tosomebody.
And I'm like, sure, let's dothat.
And since then we've becomefriends, and I really, really,
you know, like Jim Boge and I'lllike all you people out there.
(45:43):
I mean, he's a very lovable guy,and that's why people listen
because Jim's a good dude.
And so I'm just grateful to be apart of it, and I wanted to say
thanks on our hundredthanniversary episode, and uh
yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_02 (46:00):
Thank you, Jimmy.
You can go five minutes withJimmy if you want to, if you're
gonna talk like that.
I was not expecting that, andyou know, honestly, I do
appreciate it because I came inhere not knowing what to do, how
I was gonna do it.
Everything is different when youget in a booth and you put the
headphones on and you got thisbig microphone in front of you,
(46:20):
it becomes more real, and I hadno idea what to expect.
Hence why that first episodenever came out.
We did a new episode one.
But it has been just a pleasure.
I enjoy talking to someonecompared to just speaking.
You know, nobody wants to justhear me.
But speaking to you and yousaying what you like or don't
(46:43):
like or agree or whatever, it'sjust fun.
And that's what I think the showis.
I think the show isentertaining.
As one of the listeners said inthe early days, I don't know all
of the things you talk about.
I don't even like some of thethings you talk about, but the
show is entertaining.
And that was after the thirdepisode, and that's when I was
like, this is what we need todo.
Yeah.
Still talk about the things thatare music in my shoes, but at
(47:07):
the same time make itentertaining so that people can
enjoy themselves, have a laugh,get away from whatever it is
that you know might be on theirmind.
That's what we're here for.
And I do appreciate it, Jimmy,because I could not do any of
this without you.
Oh, thanks.
I know there's plenty of peopledo podcasts from their home and
they set up a studio and they dothis and they do that.
(47:30):
That's not me.
I am the guy that comes in.
I turn it on to talk, do mything, it's over, and you take
care of everything else, andthat's what I love.
Okay?
That's that's me.
SPEAKER_00 (47:44):
That's good, yeah.
And that's you.
It's a good team.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (47:47):
Me and you, and you and me.
No matter how you toss the dice,it had to be.
SPEAKER_00 (47:51):
Hakuna matata.
SPEAKER_02 (47:53):
Wow, we're going everywhere today.
I like it.
But yeah, Jimmy, I do appreciateit.
I really do, because we wouldnot be here at the hundredth
episode.
We probably wouldn't have made aper past the first episode if it
had just been on me.
Oh, well, thank you.
Okay.
So thank you.
And and and I do mean, and thankyou to everybody that listens to
the show.
(48:13):
I think the last time I looked,73 different countries have
listened.
Somewhere about a thousandfifty-five different cities
across the world have listenedto the show at some point.
And we appreciate everybody thatdoes.
That means a lot.
SPEAKER_00 (48:28):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (48:28):
Yeah, it really keeps us going and keeps us
wanting to do this so that thatyou can hear.
And if you want to reach out tous, you can at musicinmyshoes at
gmail.com.
Please like and follow the Musicin My Shoes Facebook and
Instagram pages.
That's it for episode 100 ofMusic in My Shoes.
(48:51):
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie,show producer and owner of
Arcade 160 Studios, and themagic man that makes it all
happen, that's located righthere in Atlanta, Georgia.
And Vic Thrill for our podcastmusic.
This is Jim Boge, and I hope youlearned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
(49:12):
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
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