February 23, 2025 • 36 mins
Hop into the car with me as I recount a hilarious ride with my daughter and her friend, where our clashing music choices led to unexpected moments of joy.
Prepare for a star-studded flashback as we recount the SNL 50 Homecoming Concert, where the unexpected twist of Jimmy Fallon launching the night with a Blues Brothers-style act set the tone for the evening. As the stage lights flickered, Eddie Vedder delivered heartfelt tributes through the tunes of Tom Petty and Pearl Jam, while the B-52s, transported us back to the '80s with "Love Shack." And just when you think the night couldn't get more magical, Devo, David Byrne, Post Nirvana, and Jack White made us all fans again.
Our journey wouldn't be complete without delving into tales of classic music that shaped generations. Led Zeppelin's ambitious "Physical Graffiti" offer tales of musical genius and legacy. We reminisce about Tom Petty's chart triumphs, The Smiths', and Tears for Fears 'Songs from the Big Chair' album. With a nod to the power of timeless lyrics, we celebrate the enduring beauty of music, inviting listeners to share their thoughts and memories with us.
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 67.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
So, jimmy, the other night Idrove my youngest daughter and
(00:53):
her friend to downtownAlpharetta, an area here in
Georgia that has a bunch of eat,drink and be merry
establishments.
I don't know if you've everbeen there before.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You know, I haven't been there since they've
renovated it, which has probablybeen a long time ago, but my
parents used to live inAlpharetta back in the early
nineties and so I knew it asthis sleepy little area with
like literally a five and dimekind of a variety store, a post
office and not much else.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's really cool.
Now they have a great recordshop there, oh cool.
So not just this eat, drink andbe merry stuff, but it's pretty
cool.
I mean, they got differentkinds of shops you can walk
around.
It's not just for the night,you can go on the weekends.
During the day I go for therecord shop.
But anyway, back to my story.
(01:46):
Yeah, you know, it really ispretty cool.
So we're driving there and Iguess the songs I was playing
you know I had my phoneconnected and listening to music
weren't hype enough for them.
Okay, they're getting excitedto go out, you know, and they're
wanting to, you know, get inthe mood and the songs I was
(02:09):
playing was just not doing it.
So the cure Friday I'm in lovecomes on.
And now, yeah, there's someexcitement, all right.
My daughter's like, yeah, thisis great, until she realizes
it's the live version, and thenit's I don't even want to hear
this.
Oh really, do you know peoplelike that when they hear the
live version of a song, all of asudden it's like I'm not
(02:30):
interested at all.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, I mean I can be that way with certain live
versions.
Certain songs the liveversion's better and certain
most songs, you know the studioversion's a little better.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
You're right, but I like this.
I love friday.
I am in love the live version.
I'm listening to it.
So we went from this high.
No, we started with a low, wegot to a high and then, really
quickly, we went back to a low.
But then, a couple of songslater, breaking the law by judas
priest comes on and all is good, all of a sudden kind of
(03:04):
cracked me up that now this islike yeah, now I'm getting in
the mood to go out and I'm like,wait a minute, this is not the
song you really should belistening to.
You know, I just cracked up, itwas just kind of funny and so
you, the laughter dies down andI turn down a street, I'm going
(03:25):
to drop them off and my daughtersays Chris Griswold must be
here and it doesn't reallyregister which.
At this point I see a stationwagon that looks just like the
Griswold family truckster parkedon the street.
And then I mentioned it's ClarkGriswold, not Chris Griswold.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I was thinking maybe this was from you know, european
vacation.
They met cousin Chris orsomething.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, so we end up having some laughs over that,
you know, first it's laughingabout breaking the law, then
it's laughing about the familytruckster and I got home and I,
immediately, as soon as I gothome, I looked up what the car
looked like, cause I was like,let me see, and it was like dead
on, it didn't have the double.
(04:19):
You remember they had that.
Like the double headlights allthose headlights, but everything
else was dead on.
Like this person came out andsaid not only am I going to
drive to downtown Alpharetta toeat, drink and be merry, I'm
going in the Griswold familytruckster.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, I mean, hopefully they're just eating
and being merry if they drove.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm hoping so.
Yeah, because I was merry.
Just looking at it.
Yeah, so there was married,just looking at it.
Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
And did you go to the record store after you-?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I did not.
It was later at night so I didnot, but I have bought stuff
there before and it's a prettycool place.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Do you buy vinyl or CDs or what?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Vinyl.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I listen to more CDs, but I buy vinyl.
You know, honestly, the CDs.
I have my whole CD collection,so I don't buy anything new,
except I do belong to theGrateful Dead CD of the quarter.
I get a subscription.
I get it as a Christmas giftthat my children pay for oh cool
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, a Christmas gift that mychildren pay for, oh cool.
And about every three monthsthey send a CD and it's at least
a double CD.
Sometimes it's a triple CD,sometimes it's a triple with a
bonus, you know, because theGrateful Dead would have pretty
long shows and that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's like a show.
Oh, so you get one whole show.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yes, and the bonus might be parts of another show
or so.
So that's the only new CDs I get.
But if I'm going to a recordstore I'm looking for two things
One, vinyl.
Two, I'm looking for posters.
That are things that I rememberthat I haven't seen in a while,
that I might want, Yep.
So that's the other thing Ikind of keep my eye on when I'm
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out there.
Got it, so I get home and I hadstarted watching a show before
I took them.
I continued once I got home andit was the SNL 50 Homecoming
concert.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And it was on Peacock and I was probably one of the
dozen people that was watchingit.
The Roots were the house bandand I thought the Roots did an
excellent job.
They actually took the wholeweek off from the Tonight Show
and Paul Schaefer and theworld's most dangerous band sat
in on the Tonight Show for awhole week.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Oh, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And Letterman actually showed up at one
episode saying Paul, what areyou doing here?
Yeah, that's great and it waskind of funny, you know.
But the Roots really did a goodjob.
They played with a bunch ofdifferent bands and they were on
top of their game.
I mean they really were good.
Good, I like them a lot, Ireally do so.
Opens up with soul man jimmyfallon comes out and it was cute
(07:15):
, you know, kind of get the showstarted.
That was, you know, one of thebig first songs was he doing
like a blues brothers?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
he was doing a blues, but no ak.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
But no, ackroyd.
No, ackroyd was not there.
So they had a bunch of dancerswith them that were dressed up
looking all Blues Brother-ishyand so forth.
Okay, miley Cyrus and BrittanyHoward, they came out.
They did Crazy Little Thingcalled Love, and I'm not saying
that the song was good oranything, but what really made
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me realize that I'm gettingolder is that Hannah Montana is
grown and has tattoos all over.
And it's definitely, you know.
Those moments make me realizethat I'm getting older, just
like when my kids have abirthday.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, our kids are close to the same age.
I think my daughter's firstconcert was the Best of Both
Worlds Tour, which was MileyCyrus.
It was Hannah Montana the firsthalf and then Miley Cyrus the
second half, and so she openedfor herself in character and
then as herself.
(08:23):
Now she wasn't all tattooed yet, but it was her saying okay,
I'm leaving the Disney Channelpersona behind and doing my own
thing.
And within a few years fromthat she was doing Wrecking Ball
and all that stuff.
That was very different fromthe Disney Channel.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Very different from the Hannah Montana days.
But that really kind of struckme, seeing that it was like, wow
, I'm getting older becauseHannah Montana is not Hannah
Montana days.
But that really kind of struckme Like seeing that it was like,
wow, I'm getting older becauseHannah Montana's not Hannah
Montana anymore.
Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jamdoes the Waiting by Tom Petty
and the Heartbreakers Rootsagain are backing up and then
(09:00):
goes into the Pearl Jam songCorduroy, and I thought it was
really good.
In between he was, you know,kind of mentioning cast members
who had passed and I justthought it was a cool vibe the
way that he did the whole thingand it, you know, I'm sure he
practiced it, I'm sure he knewin his head, but it came off as
(09:22):
very natural, like verybelievable, likevable, like this
, wasn't, you know, like do youknow what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
like yeah, not too staged, and yeah that's.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, that's it that it was pretty cool b-52s love
shack with fred armisen, a castmember, back in the day playing
drums and it was pretty coolLike everybody stood up on their
feet, everybody knew the wordsand was singing along and you
know it was cool to see it.
(09:53):
The B-52s you know are olderthan me and you can tell that
they're a little bit older.
They don't move the way thatthey once did in the 70s and
everything, just like I don't doany of the things I was able to
do in the 70s.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, but they were like college age or in their 20s
, in the mid-70s, so they're agood bit older than you and I.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
They are, but they could still sing and it was
great.
People loved it.
Now, I'm not mentioningeverybody that was on, because
what I will say, half of theshow I had no interest in
whatsoever.
Okay, so I'm just kind ofhighlighting some of the things
that I liked Backstreet Boys andI know you're like wait a
minute.
You just said you'rehighlighting what you liked.
(10:35):
It was really cool to see somany celebrities because they
kept going into the crowd andshowing them.
They all knew the words to.
I want it that way.
The whole place was singing it.
Not that I'm a big fan of thesong at all, but I think that if
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you start this I did, I was atmy house, you know, a couple
days ago and I just start tosing the song and then my kids
would like all of a sudden likejoin in, like everybody seems to
know that song.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I don't know the words to that song.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I know I want it that way and tell me why that's
about?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
it.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
That's what you know, yeah so, but everybody there,
like Paul Rudd they showed PaulRudd a million times.
He, he knew the words to everysong.
He was dancing nonstop.
He was sitting right by MayaRudolph he might have even
actually been next to her andthey were just singing away.
But everybody, it didn't matterwhat celebrity, because the
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whole place was packed withcelebrities, everybody knew it
and I just thought it was cool,kind of seeing that whole vibe
of people, celebrities justbeing themselves and just kind
of having fun.
And even if it's the BackstreetBoys, that's good enough.
Backstreet was back.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Okay, yes, all right.
What else you got?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I can't believe I said that.
So we're going to go from theBackstreet Boys, we're going to
go into Devo.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Oh good.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So Devo.
They did Uncontrollable Urgeand it was Devo being Devo and
50 plus years after that songcame out, it was just so much
fun to watch Fred Armisen againon drums, and I wasn't sure at
first because they had theyellow suits on that they wore
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in the 1978 Saturday Night Liveperformance Right and the same
sort of sunglasses, squaresunglasses.
And I wasn't sure and I keptlooking, I'm like, I think it is
, I think it's him, and theykept putting the camera on him,
like they wouldn't be puttingthe camera on just any drummer.
It's got to be him.
And sure enough, it turned outto be him.
So get this.
(12:49):
Did you know mark mothersbaugh?
All right, he wrote the song.
He earns a million dollars inroyalties annually not off
uncontrollable urge but just offof uncontrollable urge.
That's impossible.
It's not because it's the themesong to the MTV show
(13:11):
Ridiculousness.
Oh okay, and all of the rerunsmake it so that he gets a
million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Ridiculousness.
Like I don't watch MTV, but ifI'm ever scrolling, you know,
through channels, it seems likeit's always on MTV.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Hence why Mark Mothersbaugh gets a million
dollars every year from one song.
I've never seen it.
I don't even know what it'sabout.
What is the quick premise ofthe show?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't know, it's always on.
I think it's like YouTubevideos and stuff, I think.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But he doesn't sing the theme song Someone else does
, but because he wrote it.
That's where the money is, andit's a million dollars a year.
Nothing else that they do.
He just gets a million bucks ayear.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
The other guys in Devo are like can you buy me a
cheeseburger, mark?
And he's like yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
There you go, without a doubt.
So in 78, I mentioned they wereon Saturday Night Live they did
Satisfaction, but in Devo style.
Yeah, I love their version ofSatisfaction.
The ironic part was is that Iwant to say it was October 14th
1978, they played the weekbefore.
(14:29):
I think it was October 7th.
The Rolling Stones actuallywere on Saturday Night Live and
here it's the week after andthey're doing a cover.
So Snoop D-O-double-G did Ginand Juice.
I can't get enough of Snoop.
We've talked about Snoop a tonof times on the show.
He's just fun to watch.
It was good until he broughtJelly Roll out, and then it just
(14:53):
kind of went downhill fromthere.
Oh, really, I'm not a big JellyRoll fan at all and it was good
, and then it wasn't so good.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Do you not think he's a good singer, or what are you?
What's the problem with JellyRoll?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
No, to all above.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Oh, okay, I think he's a good singer.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I don't at all, but that's all right, because music
is not a competition.
Obviously, snoop wanted tobring him out.
I guess, or Lauren told him todo it, but Jelly Roll was on the
show earlier and did his owncouple of songs.
He did a tribute to Johnny Cash.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And you didn't like that either.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
No, johnny Cash is rolling over in his grave.
Okay, all right, I didn't.
And it's not a competition, notat all.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Apparently it is for Johnny Cash.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Why would he roll over then?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Because Beethoven did also Boom.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That was better than the last one.
That's good.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
There you go.
So David Byrne of the TalkingHeads, arcade Fire and St
Vincent did David Bowie's Heroesand it was pretty good.
I'm not a St Vincent fan, I'mnot either, but that song they
did good.
But then RK-Fire went on to dolike two more songs and I
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couldn't understand why they gotso much time of this three-hour
and 20-minute concert.
I definitely would have reeledit back a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Nirvana with Post Malone, and just want everybody
to know, jim just pointed at hisshirt.
He's wearing a Nirvana shirtwith a funny face on it, you
know, like a smiley face withthe tongue sticking out.
So just so you know.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, I thought I would wear it just because
Nirvana played with Post MaloneVocals and guitar did smells
like teen spirit.
I still enjoy seeing Dave Grohl, chris Novoselic, pat Smear.
I enjoy it, I look forward toit.
It just brings me back.
(17:01):
I enjoyed Nirvana when theywere out and you know they have
different singers.
I think St Vincent actuallysang with them for um.
They did like an LA fire, umcharity thing or whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And that was one of my least favorite singers that
they had up.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I didn't see it, so I'm going to try and check it
out.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
The best singer in that event was Dave Grohl's
daughter, Violet Grohl.
Oh nice, she did all apologiesand it was very good.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I'd like to check it out.
I have not seen it, so I don'twant to stay too much longer on
just this one topic.
But David Byrne later joinedRobin Robin with a Y who I had
no idea who she was, on a songcalled Dancing on my Own, a 2010
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song, and they both wore theTalking Heads big suits.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And I got to tell, tell you them, singing together
and they put together like adance routine that they, like
they must have come up with, wasactually pretty cool.
I don't think they tookthemselves too seriously.
It's just like hey, robin, yes,david, what do you want to do
here?
How about we just go back toback and then we spin around and
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we put our hands up in the airand do the hokey pokey?
I really thought it was kind ofcool.
It came off where I was like Iwant to watch this again.
I think that was probably oneof the best performances of the
entire night.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Wow, all right, I want to see that.
I don't know who Robin is.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Some pop star.
I don't know her, never heardof her, but I enjoyed it.
I thought that they did prettycool and, you know, david Byrne
gave it a coolness, but Robinalso gave it a coolness of not
taking it seriously, as probablyshe normally does when she
sings the song.
So, cher, I think she turnedback time because she's 78,
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didn't look like it whatsoeverand performed in a sheer
bodysuit.
Yeah okay, it was crazy, it wasabsolutely insane.
60 years ago, in 1965, sonnyand Cher had a number one song
with I Got you Babe, and I don'tthink anyone could have
imagined her rocking the stagelike that in 2025.
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No one 60 years ago wasthinking that at all.
No.
Final performer Jack Whitedoing Neil Young's Rockin' in
the Free World.
As the song is ending, he'splaying the music to Seven
Nation Army and finishes singingRockin' in the Free World and
then goes right into SevenNation Army.
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It was so cool.
It really was super energy.
The way Jack White plays guitarvery cool, a lot of fun.
The roots again, I think theydid a fantastic job of being the
backup band for many of theperformers and you know my hat's
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off to them.
I mean, that's got to bedifficult with all these
different people and differenttypes of music that you don't
know and having to put up withsome of the performers.
Yeah, I think they did a greatjob.
And Jimmy, that's my highlightsof Saturday Night Live 50, the
homecoming concert Jimmy, I'vedone enough talking so far, so,
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on that note, according to mywatch, it's Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute.
Minute with jimmy.
Minute with jimmy.
Minute with jimmy.
It's time for a minute withjimmy.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
minute with jimmy so I was listening to uh, my
spotify release radar.
You ever do that no okay.
So if you go down to like madefor you on spotify well, you're
an Apple Music person.
They probably have a similarthing and they have a thing
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called Release Radar.
That's the artists that youlike that have new things out,
and Bob Mould had a new recordout.
He's the singer from Husker, duand Sugar and he's a solo
artist.
So I play this song calledNeanderthal that he just put out
and it's fantastic.
It is like the high energy,unexpected changes that I love
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from Bob and it's part of a twosong double single, another song
called here we Go Crazy.
It's a little poppier, a littlemore accessible, but a good
song as well.
But I really like theneanderthal song.
Uh, like I said, unexpected.
When you think it's going to gofour counts, it only goes three
.
It goes to the next part.
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It's just kind of alwayskeeping you guessing.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So check it out I definitely will, and I think
that fits in perfectly with theshow.
I don't remember uh how longago, but when, when Seth Meyers'
show was going off TV, bobMould came and he played it
Makes no Sense At All and FredArmisen was playing with them,
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and that's kind of cool how itall ties in when you had no idea
what we were going to talkabout.
So I'll definitely check thatout, because I like sugar more
than I like Husker Du, but I'mlooking forward to checking it
out.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, it's definitely Neanderthal has a sugar vibe to
it.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Very cool.
Yeah, my name is Jimmy, so from2025 that Jimmy just talked
about, let's go back to 1965.
Now let's go back to 1965.
One of the first songs writtenby Sid Barrett, who founded Pink
Floyd, was a song called BobDylan Blues, and now it wasn't
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recorded until February 26, 1970.
He writes it, he doesn't recordit till five years later and it
was during the sessions for hissecond solo album that came out
November of 1970, but theydidn't release it on there, it
didn't make the cut and itwasn't until 2001 this song
(23:17):
comes out.
It's actually a pretty coolsong, so I really enjoy stuff
like that, where someone writesa song, they don't record it
till five years later, itdoesn't get released, and then
all of a sudden, you know Iguess it was probably 31 years
later they release it and I sayto myself, why didn't you?
Because this would have beenone of the better songs on that
(23:39):
album.
Don't know, you never know, younever know.
Bob Dylan Blues, february 24th1975, know, bob Dylan Blues,
february 24th 1975,.
Led Zeppelin Physical Graffiticomes out.
This is the Led Zeppelin albumthat I believe less would have
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been more A double album that Ithink could have been a great
one record album and I know alot of people are going to
totally disagree with me on that.
People love this album and it'sjust my opinion.
But of the 15 songs that are onthis album, seven were outtakes
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from previous albums, includingHouses of the Holy from
previous albums, includingHouses of the Holy, a song they
didn't think fit on their 1973album of the same name, houses
of the Holy.
They're like, yeah, this isn'tgood enough, you know it doesn't
fit, let's just put it on thenext album, right?
But this album has songs thatthey recorded for Led Zeppelin
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III, that they recorded for LedZeppelin III for the next album,
led Zeppelin IV, zoso, whateverpeople want to call it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, Led Zeppelin IV .
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, you know other favorites of mine In my Time of
Dying Trampled UnderfootCashmere.
Everybody knows that song.
Yeah, of course.
Ten years gone, in 2021,rolling Stone magazine named
Kashmir number 148 on its top500 greatest songs of all time.
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And in 2020, rolling Stonenamed Physical Graffiti number
144 on the 500 greatest albumsof all time.
And I think every other LedZeppelin album is better than
Physical Graffiti.
Yeah, but I like some of thosesongs.
I mean, I really like TrampledUnderfoot.
I really like Houses of theHoly In my Time of Dying.
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I like those songs a lot.
I think it could have been agreat one-record album.
Jimmy, this is interesting.
45 years ago you would hear onthe radio Tom Petty and the
Heartbreakers Don't Do Me Likethat.
It reached number 10 onBillboard Hot 100 in February of
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1980.
Billboard Hot 100 in Februaryof 1980.
Their song Refugee.
That peaked at number 15 inMarch of 1980.
So 45 years ago.
Right now we're hearing both ofthose songs on the radio.
I remember that time yeah 40years ago they released Don't
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Come Around here no More.
That peaked at number 13, mayof 1985.
That was released February 1985.
All right, 35 years ago TomPetty, free Fallen, reached
number one on Billboard, january27th 1990.
And 30 years ago he peaked atnumber 13 in February 1995 with
(26:48):
you Don't Know how it Feels.
Oh yeah, I guess this time ofthe year was very good for Tom
Petty and the Heartbreakers.
I mean a lot of songs released,a lot of songs that were
peaking.
I just thought it wasinteresting.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, that is interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
February 1985, the Smiths' Meet His Murder comes
out.
Manchester England Band picksit up a notch for its second
album.
Johnny Marr's guitar and AndyRourke's bass, alongside
Morrissey's vocals and MikeJoyce's drums, are worth a
listen.
I find sometimes I just listento the words, or sometimes I'm
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just listening to the guitar,sometimes I'm just listening to
the bass.
Do you ever do that with songswhere you're just focused in on
one certain part of it?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Not so much.
I'm probably guilty of notlistening to the words enough.
Usually I'm more just listeningto the music and the way all
the instruments interact and theway the vocal melody interacts,
but I'm less thinking about thewords usually all I hear is the
bass.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Like that's my focus, and you know I'm not saying I
don't hear the rest, but to meit's like I almost can amplify
in my mind the different partsof it.
I think they just havefantastic chemistry between them
.
It's a great album to listen tothe instruments, regardless.
If you're listening to thewords, like the words, don't
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like the words.
You know whether it's theheadmaster ritual, russ Holm,
ruffians, what she said, nowherefast or barbarism begins at
home, are just cool to listen to.
For 1985, jangly guitar andoutstanding bass.
That's not REM.
Yeah, you know, it's really,really cool music.
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The last minute 50 of Barbarismis just the instruments.
And man, what a funky bass itis.
It just gives the song such adifferent feel as it's ending
than the rest of the song.
The title song, meat is Murder.
Murder is not cheerier kind.
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Morrissey's a vegetarian.
My youngest daughter is avegetarian, but back then in
1985 I didn't know anyvegetarians.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I didn't understand and like I just didn't isn't it
funny that that was a big dealback then.
Like he doesn't eat meat?
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
It was a big deal again, my daughter is a
vegetarian, doesn't eat meat.
Yeah, it was.
It was a big deal.
Again, my daughter is avegetarian.
I'm not making fun of her oranything.
I'm just saying 40 years agothings were much different the
way that people looked at things.
I mean 40 years ago would youthink that you would buy bottled
water?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
40 years ago we didn't have bottled water water.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I can't remember when it really came on this no, we
weren't drinking bottled waterreally 40 years ago.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah I don't know when I was working in new york
on tv commercials and stuff andlike doing production and I
would have to buy bottled waterfor the set.
I remember doing that in 1993and I can't really remember how
recent bottled water was a thing.
So sometime around the last 40years but was that like what?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
was it avion, or wasn't it like designer names?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
avion and avion's gross.
It's not good bottled waterI've never had milky, really
yeah, it's weird because it hasextra uh minerals in it and so
it just doesn't taste rightreally yeah, that's what I think
.
Hey, bottled water is acompetition I agree with you on
that.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, that's why we don't do a podcast on bottled
water no, that's a whole notherpodcast whole nother thing,
whole nother thing.
Us version added how Soon Is Nowto this album.
I thought that, yeah, it wasnot on the UK version, all right
, it was only on the US.
And I think it was tocapitalize on the popularity in
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US clubs where I was going,where I was hanging out,
Spittin' Levittown, you knowMalibu and Lido Beach, you know
both in New York York they wereplaying how Soon Is Now and and
plenty of other clubs across theUS.
But I think that they decidedlet's capitalize on this whole
thing and put it on there and itthey thought it was going to be
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a big hit.
But it really wasn't a big hit,even though it's the most
well-known Smith song.
So I still find it hard tobelieve it never, not any song
from this album made a WLIRScreamer of the Week.
That's surprising.
It's really surprising becausethere are just some really good
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songs.
But you know what, Jimmy?
Really good songs, but you knowwhat Jimmy?
Tears for Fears.
February 25th 1985, the samemonth as the Smiths.
Okay, Mm-hmm.
They released songs from the bigchair.
What a great album.
This is Eight songs.
You know, can you imagine analbum it's just eight songs?
Yeah, eight songs that aresequenced in such a way you want
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to listen to the entire albumall the way through.
They did such a great job.
It's almost not that they allrun into each other, but they
almost all run into each other.
Like it's really cool the waythey did it.
I had the album and thecassette and I got a lot of play
in it on the 71 Buick Skylark.
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That cassette was in all thetime.
I mean, it was just such agreat, great album.
Shout WLIR, screamer of theWeek, first week of February
1985.
And it wasn't until August 85that it peaked at number one on
the Billboard Hot 100.
Isn't that crazy.
Like six months later it goesfrom best song on LIR to number
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one in America.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, because that's when I remember it.
You know, living in Atlanta, Iremember it that fall more so
than February there you go.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
The guitar solo in Shout is so cool.
You know, shout is very I don'twant to say monotonous, that's
not the right word, that's anegative thing.
But you know, I don't know whatyou would say, but you know
it's like.
You know it's like this, butthat guitar solo just is, it
opens the whole thing up, doesthat?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
make sense it does.
It's a cool song.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, really like the song Everybody Wants to Rule
the World.
Lir Scream Over the Week thefirst week of March 1985,
reached number one on Billboardin June of 85.
I'm pretty sure anyone who hasheard a song from the 80s knows
the song Everybody Wants to Rulethe World, great sing-along pop
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song I think you know real good.
Over the years I've read inmultiple publications that Joe
Strummer of the Clash said Tearsfor Fears lifted the title from
the song Charlie Don't Surf.
It came out in 1980.
The very first verse beginswith everybody wants to rule the
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world.
Oh, joe said.
He saw Tears for Fears bandmember Roland Arzabal in a
restaurant and said you owe me afiver.
And supposedly he pulled out afive pound note and gave it to
Joe.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Okay, payment for services rendered.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yes, now, is that true?
I don't know, but it isdefinitely something that's been
going around for many years.
Second week of April 85, headover heels screamer of the week.
Second week of April 85, headOver Heels Screamer of the Week,
peaking at number three onBillboard in November 1985.
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I love the opening piano partGives it a grand feeling.
It's a grand piano that's beingplayed.
I just think it's super cool,really like it.
Mother's Talk was also releasedas a single but stalled at
number 27 the following year, inMay of 1986.
That's how long this album wasout and playing.
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The four remaining songs areall good in their own right the
Working Hour, I Believe, brokenand Listen All for freedom and
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for pleasure.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Nothing lasts forever everybody wants to rule the
world.
Oh man, you just like took itto the next level there on your
spoken word poetry well, thankyou, jimmy.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I appreciate that.
Welcome listen if any of youwant to comment on my spoken
word poetry.
Well, thank you, jimmy, Iappreciate that Listen.
If any of you want to commenton my spoken word poetry, feel
free by contacting us atmusicinmyshoes at gmailcom.
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That's it for episode 67 ofMusic in my Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of
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Arcade 160 Studios located herein Atlanta, georgia, and Vic
Thrill for our podcast music.
This is Jim Boge, and I hopeyou learned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 67.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
So, jimmy, the other night Idrove my youngest daughter and
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her friend to downtownAlpharetta, an area here in
Georgia that has a bunch of eat,drink and be merry
establishments.
I don't know if you've everbeen there before.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You know, I haven't been there since they've
renovated it, which has probablybeen a long time ago, but my
parents used to live inAlpharetta back in the early
nineties and so I knew it asthis sleepy little area with
like literally a five and dimekind of a variety store, a post
office and not much else.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's really cool.
Now they have a great recordshop there, oh cool.
So not just this eat, drink andbe merry stuff, but it's pretty
cool.
I mean, they got differentkinds of shops you can walk
around.
It's not just for the night,you can go on the weekends.
During the day I go for therecord shop.
But anyway, back to my story.
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Yeah, you know, it really ispretty cool.
So we're driving there and Iguess the songs I was playing
you know I had my phoneconnected and listening to music
weren't hype enough for them.
Okay, they're getting excitedto go out, you know, and they're
wanting to, you know, get inthe mood and the songs I was
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playing was just not doing it.
So the cure Friday I'm in lovecomes on.
And now, yeah, there's someexcitement, all right.
My daughter's like, yeah, thisis great, until she realizes
it's the live version, and thenit's I don't even want to hear
this.
Oh really, do you know peoplelike that when they hear the
live version of a song, all of asudden it's like I'm not
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interested at all.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, I mean I can be that way with certain live
versions.
Certain songs the liveversion's better and certain
most songs, you know the studioversion's a little better.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
You're right, but I like this.
I love friday.
I am in love the live version.
I'm listening to it.
So we went from this high.
No, we started with a low, wegot to a high and then, really
quickly, we went back to a low.
But then, a couple of songslater, breaking the law by judas
priest comes on and all is good, all of a sudden kind of
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cracked me up that now this islike yeah, now I'm getting in
the mood to go out and I'm like,wait a minute, this is not the
song you really should belistening to.
You know, I just cracked up, itwas just kind of funny and so
you, the laughter dies down andI turn down a street, I'm going
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to drop them off and my daughtersays Chris Griswold must be
here and it doesn't reallyregister which.
At this point I see a stationwagon that looks just like the
Griswold family truckster parkedon the street.
And then I mentioned it's ClarkGriswold, not Chris Griswold.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I was thinking maybe this was from you know, european
vacation.
They met cousin Chris orsomething.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, so we end up having some laughs over that,
you know, first it's laughingabout breaking the law, then
it's laughing about the familytruckster and I got home and I,
immediately, as soon as I gothome, I looked up what the car
looked like, cause I was like,let me see, and it was like dead
on, it didn't have the double.
(04:19):
You remember they had that.
Like the double headlights allthose headlights, but everything
else was dead on.
Like this person came out andsaid not only am I going to
drive to downtown Alpharetta toeat, drink and be merry, I'm
going in the Griswold familytruckster.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, I mean, hopefully they're just eating
and being merry if they drove.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm hoping so.
Yeah, because I was merry.
Just looking at it.
Yeah, so there was married,just looking at it.
Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
And did you go to the record store after you-?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I did not.
It was later at night so I didnot, but I have bought stuff
there before and it's a prettycool place.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Do you buy vinyl or CDs or what?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Vinyl.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I listen to more CDs, but I buy vinyl.
You know, honestly, the CDs.
I have my whole CD collection,so I don't buy anything new,
except I do belong to theGrateful Dead CD of the quarter.
I get a subscription.
I get it as a Christmas giftthat my children pay for oh cool
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, a Christmas gift that mychildren pay for, oh cool.
And about every three monthsthey send a CD and it's at least
a double CD.
Sometimes it's a triple CD,sometimes it's a triple with a
bonus, you know, because theGrateful Dead would have pretty
long shows and that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's like a show.
Oh, so you get one whole show.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yes, and the bonus might be parts of another show
or so.
So that's the only new CDs I get.
But if I'm going to a recordstore I'm looking for two things
One, vinyl.
Two, I'm looking for posters.
That are things that I rememberthat I haven't seen in a while,
that I might want, Yep.
So that's the other thing Ikind of keep my eye on when I'm
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out there.
Got it, so I get home and I hadstarted watching a show before
I took them.
I continued once I got home andit was the SNL 50 Homecoming
concert.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And it was on Peacock and I was probably one of the
dozen people that was watchingit.
The Roots were the house bandand I thought the Roots did an
excellent job.
They actually took the wholeweek off from the Tonight Show
and Paul Schaefer and theworld's most dangerous band sat
in on the Tonight Show for awhole week.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Oh, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And Letterman actually showed up at one
episode saying Paul, what areyou doing here?
Yeah, that's great and it waskind of funny, you know.
But the Roots really did a goodjob.
They played with a bunch ofdifferent bands and they were on
top of their game.
I mean they really were good.
Good, I like them a lot, Ireally do so.
Opens up with soul man jimmyfallon comes out and it was cute
(07:15):
, you know, kind of get the showstarted.
That was, you know, one of thebig first songs was he doing
like a blues brothers?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
he was doing a blues, but no ak.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
But no, ackroyd.
No, ackroyd was not there.
So they had a bunch of dancerswith them that were dressed up
looking all Blues Brother-ishyand so forth.
Okay, miley Cyrus and BrittanyHoward, they came out.
They did Crazy Little Thingcalled Love, and I'm not saying
that the song was good oranything, but what really made
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me realize that I'm gettingolder is that Hannah Montana is
grown and has tattoos all over.
And it's definitely, you know.
Those moments make me realizethat I'm getting older, just
like when my kids have abirthday.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, our kids are close to the same age.
I think my daughter's firstconcert was the Best of Both
Worlds Tour, which was MileyCyrus.
It was Hannah Montana the firsthalf and then Miley Cyrus the
second half, and so she openedfor herself in character and
then as herself.
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Now she wasn't all tattooed yet, but it was her saying okay,
I'm leaving the Disney Channelpersona behind and doing my own
thing.
And within a few years fromthat she was doing Wrecking Ball
and all that stuff.
That was very different fromthe Disney Channel.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Very different from the Hannah Montana days.
But that really kind of struckme, seeing that it was like, wow
, I'm getting older becauseHannah Montana is not Hannah
Montana days.
But that really kind of struckme Like seeing that it was like,
wow, I'm getting older becauseHannah Montana's not Hannah
Montana anymore.
Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jamdoes the Waiting by Tom Petty
and the Heartbreakers Rootsagain are backing up and then
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goes into the Pearl Jam songCorduroy, and I thought it was
really good.
In between he was, you know,kind of mentioning cast members
who had passed and I justthought it was a cool vibe the
way that he did the whole thingand it, you know, I'm sure he
practiced it, I'm sure he knewin his head, but it came off as
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very natural, like verybelievable, likevable, like this
, wasn't, you know, like do youknow what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
like yeah, not too staged, and yeah that's.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, that's it that it was pretty cool b-52s love
shack with fred armisen, a castmember, back in the day playing
drums and it was pretty coolLike everybody stood up on their
feet, everybody knew the wordsand was singing along and you
know it was cool to see it.
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The B-52s you know are olderthan me and you can tell that
they're a little bit older.
They don't move the way thatthey once did in the 70s and
everything, just like I don't doany of the things I was able to
do in the 70s.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, but they were like college age or in their 20s
, in the mid-70s, so they're agood bit older than you and I.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
They are, but they could still sing and it was
great.
People loved it.
Now, I'm not mentioningeverybody that was on, because
what I will say, half of theshow I had no interest in
whatsoever.
Okay, so I'm just kind ofhighlighting some of the things
that I liked Backstreet Boys andI know you're like wait a
minute.
You just said you'rehighlighting what you liked.
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It was really cool to see somany celebrities because they
kept going into the crowd andshowing them.
They all knew the words to.
I want it that way.
The whole place was singing it.
Not that I'm a big fan of thesong at all, but I think that if
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you start this I did, I was atmy house, you know, a couple
days ago and I just start tosing the song and then my kids
would like all of a sudden likejoin in, like everybody seems to
know that song.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I don't know the words to that song.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I know I want it that way and tell me why that's
about?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
it.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
That's what you know, yeah so, but everybody there,
like Paul Rudd they showed PaulRudd a million times.
He, he knew the words to everysong.
He was dancing nonstop.
He was sitting right by MayaRudolph he might have even
actually been next to her andthey were just singing away.
But everybody, it didn't matterwhat celebrity, because the
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whole place was packed withcelebrities, everybody knew it
and I just thought it was cool,kind of seeing that whole vibe
of people, celebrities justbeing themselves and just kind
of having fun.
And even if it's the BackstreetBoys, that's good enough.
Backstreet was back.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Okay, yes, all right.
What else you got?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I can't believe I said that.
So we're going to go from theBackstreet Boys, we're going to
go into Devo.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Oh good.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So Devo.
They did Uncontrollable Urgeand it was Devo being Devo and
50 plus years after that songcame out, it was just so much
fun to watch Fred Armisen againon drums, and I wasn't sure at
first because they had theyellow suits on that they wore
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in the 1978 Saturday Night Liveperformance Right and the same
sort of sunglasses, squaresunglasses.
And I wasn't sure and I keptlooking, I'm like, I think it is
, I think it's him, and theykept putting the camera on him,
like they wouldn't be puttingthe camera on just any drummer.
It's got to be him.
And sure enough, it turned outto be him.
So get this.
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Did you know mark mothersbaugh?
All right, he wrote the song.
He earns a million dollars inroyalties annually not off
uncontrollable urge but just offof uncontrollable urge.
That's impossible.
It's not because it's the themesong to the MTV show
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Ridiculousness.
Oh okay, and all of the rerunsmake it so that he gets a
million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Ridiculousness.
Like I don't watch MTV, but ifI'm ever scrolling, you know,
through channels, it seems likeit's always on MTV.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Hence why Mark Mothersbaugh gets a million
dollars every year from one song.
I've never seen it.
I don't even know what it'sabout.
What is the quick premise ofthe show?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't know, it's always on.
I think it's like YouTubevideos and stuff, I think.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But he doesn't sing the theme song Someone else does
, but because he wrote it.
That's where the money is, andit's a million dollars a year.
Nothing else that they do.
He just gets a million bucks ayear.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
The other guys in Devo are like can you buy me a
cheeseburger, mark?
And he's like yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
There you go, without a doubt.
So in 78, I mentioned they wereon Saturday Night Live they did
Satisfaction, but in Devo style.
Yeah, I love their version ofSatisfaction.
The ironic part was is that Iwant to say it was October 14th
1978, they played the weekbefore.
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I think it was October 7th.
The Rolling Stones actuallywere on Saturday Night Live and
here it's the week after andthey're doing a cover.
So Snoop D-O-double-G did Ginand Juice.
I can't get enough of Snoop.
We've talked about Snoop a tonof times on the show.
He's just fun to watch.
It was good until he broughtJelly Roll out, and then it just
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kind of went downhill fromthere.
Oh, really, I'm not a big JellyRoll fan at all and it was good
, and then it wasn't so good.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Do you not think he's a good singer, or what are you?
What's the problem with JellyRoll?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
No, to all above.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Oh, okay, I think he's a good singer.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I don't at all, but that's all right, because music
is not a competition.
Obviously, snoop wanted tobring him out.
I guess, or Lauren told him todo it, but Jelly Roll was on the
show earlier and did his owncouple of songs.
He did a tribute to Johnny Cash.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And you didn't like that either.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
No, johnny Cash is rolling over in his grave.
Okay, all right, I didn't.
And it's not a competition, notat all.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Apparently it is for Johnny Cash.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Why would he roll over then?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Because Beethoven did also Boom.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That was better than the last one.
That's good.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
There you go.
So David Byrne of the TalkingHeads, arcade Fire and St
Vincent did David Bowie's Heroesand it was pretty good.
I'm not a St Vincent fan, I'mnot either, but that song they
did good.
But then RK-Fire went on to dolike two more songs and I
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couldn't understand why they gotso much time of this three-hour
and 20-minute concert.
I definitely would have reeledit back a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Nirvana with Post Malone, and just want everybody
to know, jim just pointed at hisshirt.
He's wearing a Nirvana shirtwith a funny face on it, you
know, like a smiley face withthe tongue sticking out.
So just so you know.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, I thought I would wear it just because
Nirvana played with Post MaloneVocals and guitar did smells
like teen spirit.
I still enjoy seeing Dave Grohl, chris Novoselic, pat Smear.
I enjoy it, I look forward toit.
It just brings me back.
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I enjoyed Nirvana when theywere out and you know they have
different singers.
I think St Vincent actuallysang with them for um.
They did like an LA fire, umcharity thing or whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And that was one of my least favorite singers that
they had up.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I didn't see it, so I'm going to try and check it
out.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
The best singer in that event was Dave Grohl's
daughter, Violet Grohl.
Oh nice, she did all apologiesand it was very good.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I'd like to check it out.
I have not seen it, so I don'twant to stay too much longer on
just this one topic.
But David Byrne later joinedRobin Robin with a Y who I had
no idea who she was, on a songcalled Dancing on my Own, a 2010
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song, and they both wore theTalking Heads big suits.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And I got to tell, tell you them, singing together
and they put together like adance routine that they, like
they must have come up with, wasactually pretty cool.
I don't think they tookthemselves too seriously.
It's just like hey, robin, yes,david, what do you want to do
here?
How about we just go back toback and then we spin around and
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we put our hands up in the airand do the hokey pokey?
I really thought it was kind ofcool.
It came off where I was like Iwant to watch this again.
I think that was probably oneof the best performances of the
entire night.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Wow, all right, I want to see that.
I don't know who Robin is.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Some pop star.
I don't know her, never heardof her, but I enjoyed it.
I thought that they did prettycool and, you know, david Byrne
gave it a coolness, but Robinalso gave it a coolness of not
taking it seriously, as probablyshe normally does when she
sings the song.
So, cher, I think she turnedback time because she's 78,
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didn't look like it whatsoeverand performed in a sheer
bodysuit.
Yeah okay, it was crazy, it wasabsolutely insane.
60 years ago, in 1965, sonnyand Cher had a number one song
with I Got you Babe, and I don'tthink anyone could have
imagined her rocking the stagelike that in 2025.
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No one 60 years ago wasthinking that at all.
No.
Final performer Jack Whitedoing Neil Young's Rockin' in
the Free World.
As the song is ending, he'splaying the music to Seven
Nation Army and finishes singingRockin' in the Free World and
then goes right into SevenNation Army.
(19:52):
It was so cool.
It really was super energy.
The way Jack White plays guitarvery cool, a lot of fun.
The roots again, I think theydid a fantastic job of being the
backup band for many of theperformers and you know my hat's
(20:14):
off to them.
I mean, that's got to bedifficult with all these
different people and differenttypes of music that you don't
know and having to put up withsome of the performers.
Yeah, I think they did a greatjob.
And Jimmy, that's my highlightsof Saturday Night Live 50, the
homecoming concert Jimmy, I'vedone enough talking so far, so,
(20:42):
on that note, according to mywatch, it's Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute.
Minute with jimmy.
Minute with jimmy.
Minute with jimmy.
It's time for a minute withjimmy.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
minute with jimmy so I was listening to uh, my
spotify release radar.
You ever do that no okay.
So if you go down to like madefor you on spotify well, you're
an Apple Music person.
They probably have a similarthing and they have a thing
(21:12):
called Release Radar.
That's the artists that youlike that have new things out,
and Bob Mould had a new recordout.
He's the singer from Husker, duand Sugar and he's a solo
artist.
So I play this song calledNeanderthal that he just put out
and it's fantastic.
It is like the high energy,unexpected changes that I love
(21:36):
from Bob and it's part of a twosong double single, another song
called here we Go Crazy.
It's a little poppier, a littlemore accessible, but a good
song as well.
But I really like theneanderthal song.
Uh, like I said, unexpected.
When you think it's going to gofour counts, it only goes three
.
It goes to the next part.
(21:56):
It's just kind of alwayskeeping you guessing.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So check it out I definitely will, and I think
that fits in perfectly with theshow.
I don't remember uh how longago, but when, when Seth Meyers'
show was going off TV, bobMould came and he played it
Makes no Sense At All and FredArmisen was playing with them,
(22:19):
and that's kind of cool how itall ties in when you had no idea
what we were going to talkabout.
So I'll definitely check thatout, because I like sugar more
than I like Husker Du, but I'mlooking forward to checking it
out.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, it's definitely Neanderthal has a sugar vibe to
it.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Very cool.
Yeah, my name is Jimmy, so from2025 that Jimmy just talked
about, let's go back to 1965.
Now let's go back to 1965.
One of the first songs writtenby Sid Barrett, who founded Pink
Floyd, was a song called BobDylan Blues, and now it wasn't
(22:56):
recorded until February 26, 1970.
He writes it, he doesn't recordit till five years later and it
was during the sessions for hissecond solo album that came out
November of 1970, but theydidn't release it on there, it
didn't make the cut and itwasn't until 2001 this song
(23:17):
comes out.
It's actually a pretty coolsong, so I really enjoy stuff
like that, where someone writesa song, they don't record it
till five years later, itdoesn't get released, and then
all of a sudden, you know Iguess it was probably 31 years
later they release it and I sayto myself, why didn't you?
Because this would have beenone of the better songs on that
(23:39):
album.
Don't know, you never know, younever know.
Bob Dylan Blues, february 24th1975, know, bob Dylan Blues,
february 24th 1975,.
Led Zeppelin Physical Graffiticomes out.
This is the Led Zeppelin albumthat I believe less would have
(24:02):
been more A double album that Ithink could have been a great
one record album and I know alot of people are going to
totally disagree with me on that.
People love this album and it'sjust my opinion.
But of the 15 songs that are onthis album, seven were outtakes
(24:22):
from previous albums, includingHouses of the Holy from
previous albums, includingHouses of the Holy, a song they
didn't think fit on their 1973album of the same name, houses
of the Holy.
They're like, yeah, this isn'tgood enough, you know it doesn't
fit, let's just put it on thenext album, right?
But this album has songs thatthey recorded for Led Zeppelin
(24:45):
III, that they recorded for LedZeppelin III for the next album,
led Zeppelin IV, zoso, whateverpeople want to call it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, Led Zeppelin IV .
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, you know other favorites of mine In my Time of
Dying Trampled UnderfootCashmere.
Everybody knows that song.
Yeah, of course.
Ten years gone, in 2021,rolling Stone magazine named
Kashmir number 148 on its top500 greatest songs of all time.
(25:19):
And in 2020, rolling Stonenamed Physical Graffiti number
144 on the 500 greatest albumsof all time.
And I think every other LedZeppelin album is better than
Physical Graffiti.
Yeah, but I like some of thosesongs.
I mean, I really like TrampledUnderfoot.
I really like Houses of theHoly In my Time of Dying.
(25:42):
I like those songs a lot.
I think it could have been agreat one-record album.
Jimmy, this is interesting.
45 years ago you would hear onthe radio Tom Petty and the
Heartbreakers Don't Do Me Likethat.
It reached number 10 onBillboard Hot 100 in February of
(26:05):
1980.
Billboard Hot 100 in Februaryof 1980.
Their song Refugee.
That peaked at number 15 inMarch of 1980.
So 45 years ago.
Right now we're hearing both ofthose songs on the radio.
I remember that time yeah 40years ago they released Don't
(26:27):
Come Around here no More.
That peaked at number 13, mayof 1985.
That was released February 1985.
All right, 35 years ago TomPetty, free Fallen, reached
number one on Billboard, january27th 1990.
And 30 years ago he peaked atnumber 13 in February 1995 with
(26:48):
you Don't Know how it Feels.
Oh yeah, I guess this time ofthe year was very good for Tom
Petty and the Heartbreakers.
I mean a lot of songs released,a lot of songs that were
peaking.
I just thought it wasinteresting.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, that is interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
February 1985, the Smiths' Meet His Murder comes
out.
Manchester England Band picksit up a notch for its second
album.
Johnny Marr's guitar and AndyRourke's bass, alongside
Morrissey's vocals and MikeJoyce's drums, are worth a
listen.
I find sometimes I just listento the words, or sometimes I'm
(27:28):
just listening to the guitar,sometimes I'm just listening to
the bass.
Do you ever do that with songswhere you're just focused in on
one certain part of it?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Not so much.
I'm probably guilty of notlistening to the words enough.
Usually I'm more just listeningto the music and the way all
the instruments interact and theway the vocal melody interacts,
but I'm less thinking about thewords usually all I hear is the
bass.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Like that's my focus, and you know I'm not saying I
don't hear the rest, but to meit's like I almost can amplify
in my mind the different partsof it.
I think they just havefantastic chemistry between them
.
It's a great album to listen tothe instruments, regardless.
If you're listening to thewords, like the words, don't
(28:18):
like the words.
You know whether it's theheadmaster ritual, russ Holm,
ruffians, what she said, nowherefast or barbarism begins at
home, are just cool to listen to.
For 1985, jangly guitar andoutstanding bass.
That's not REM.
Yeah, you know, it's really,really cool music.
(28:42):
The last minute 50 of Barbarismis just the instruments.
And man, what a funky bass itis.
It just gives the song such adifferent feel as it's ending
than the rest of the song.
The title song, meat is Murder.
Murder is not cheerier kind.
(29:02):
Morrissey's a vegetarian.
My youngest daughter is avegetarian, but back then in
1985 I didn't know anyvegetarians.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I didn't understand and like I just didn't isn't it
funny that that was a big dealback then.
Like he doesn't eat meat?
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
It was a big deal again, my daughter is a
vegetarian, doesn't eat meat.
Yeah, it was.
It was a big deal.
Again, my daughter is avegetarian.
I'm not making fun of her oranything.
I'm just saying 40 years agothings were much different the
way that people looked at things.
I mean 40 years ago would youthink that you would buy bottled
water?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
40 years ago we didn't have bottled water water.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I can't remember when it really came on this no, we
weren't drinking bottled waterreally 40 years ago.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah I don't know when I was working in new york
on tv commercials and stuff andlike doing production and I
would have to buy bottled waterfor the set.
I remember doing that in 1993and I can't really remember how
recent bottled water was a thing.
So sometime around the last 40years but was that like what?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
was it avion, or wasn't it like designer names?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
avion and avion's gross.
It's not good bottled waterI've never had milky, really
yeah, it's weird because it hasextra uh minerals in it and so
it just doesn't taste rightreally yeah, that's what I think
.
Hey, bottled water is acompetition I agree with you on
that.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, that's why we don't do a podcast on bottled
water no, that's a whole notherpodcast whole nother thing,
whole nother thing.
Us version added how Soon Is Nowto this album.
I thought that, yeah, it wasnot on the UK version, all right
, it was only on the US.
And I think it was tocapitalize on the popularity in
(30:52):
US clubs where I was going,where I was hanging out,
Spittin' Levittown, you knowMalibu and Lido Beach, you know
both in New York York they wereplaying how Soon Is Now and and
plenty of other clubs across theUS.
But I think that they decidedlet's capitalize on this whole
thing and put it on there and itthey thought it was going to be
(31:15):
a big hit.
But it really wasn't a big hit,even though it's the most
well-known Smith song.
So I still find it hard tobelieve it never, not any song
from this album made a WLIRScreamer of the Week.
That's surprising.
It's really surprising becausethere are just some really good
(31:37):
songs.
But you know what, Jimmy?
Really good songs, but you knowwhat Jimmy?
Tears for Fears.
February 25th 1985, the samemonth as the Smiths.
Okay, Mm-hmm.
They released songs from the bigchair.
What a great album.
This is Eight songs.
You know, can you imagine analbum it's just eight songs?
Yeah, eight songs that aresequenced in such a way you want
(32:02):
to listen to the entire albumall the way through.
They did such a great job.
It's almost not that they allrun into each other, but they
almost all run into each other.
Like it's really cool the waythey did it.
I had the album and thecassette and I got a lot of play
in it on the 71 Buick Skylark.
(32:22):
That cassette was in all thetime.
I mean, it was just such agreat, great album.
Shout WLIR, screamer of theWeek, first week of February
1985.
And it wasn't until August 85that it peaked at number one on
the Billboard Hot 100.
Isn't that crazy.
Like six months later it goesfrom best song on LIR to number
(32:48):
one in America.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, because that's when I remember it.
You know, living in Atlanta, Iremember it that fall more so
than February there you go.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
The guitar solo in Shout is so cool.
You know, shout is very I don'twant to say monotonous, that's
not the right word, that's anegative thing.
But you know, I don't know whatyou would say, but you know
it's like.
You know it's like this, butthat guitar solo just is, it
opens the whole thing up, doesthat?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
make sense it does.
It's a cool song.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, really like the song Everybody Wants to Rule
the World.
Lir Scream Over the Week thefirst week of March 1985,
reached number one on Billboardin June of 85.
I'm pretty sure anyone who hasheard a song from the 80s knows
the song Everybody Wants to Rulethe World, great sing-along pop
(33:46):
song I think you know real good.
Over the years I've read inmultiple publications that Joe
Strummer of the Clash said Tearsfor Fears lifted the title from
the song Charlie Don't Surf.
It came out in 1980.
The very first verse beginswith everybody wants to rule the
(34:08):
world.
Oh, joe said.
He saw Tears for Fears bandmember Roland Arzabal in a
restaurant and said you owe me afiver.
And supposedly he pulled out afive pound note and gave it to
Joe.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Okay, payment for services rendered.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yes, now, is that true?
I don't know, but it isdefinitely something that's been
going around for many years.
Second week of April 85, headover heels screamer of the week.
Second week of April 85, headOver Heels Screamer of the Week,
peaking at number three onBillboard in November 1985.
(34:48):
I love the opening piano partGives it a grand feeling.
It's a grand piano that's beingplayed.
I just think it's super cool,really like it.
Mother's Talk was also releasedas a single but stalled at
number 27 the following year, inMay of 1986.
That's how long this album wasout and playing.
(35:08):
The four remaining songs areall good in their own right the
Working Hour, I Believe, brokenand Listen All for freedom and
(35:30):
for pleasure.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Nothing lasts forever everybody wants to rule the
world.
Oh man, you just like took itto the next level there on your
spoken word poetry well, thankyou, jimmy.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I appreciate that.
Welcome listen if any of youwant to comment on my spoken
word poetry.
Well, thank you, jimmy, Iappreciate that Listen.
If any of you want to commenton my spoken word poetry, feel
free by contacting us atmusicinmyshoes at gmailcom.
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Instagram pages.
That's it for episode 67 ofMusic in my Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of
(36:04):
Arcade 160 Studios located herein Atlanta, georgia, and Vic
Thrill for our podcast music.
This is Jim Boge, and I hopeyou learned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
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