May 4, 2025 • 33 mins
Music becomes a vessel for expressing feelings we can't put into words ourselves, as Jim recounts how he used a Beatles song to declare his teenage affection on a college radio station and how Billy Joel's lyrics helped him navigate heartbreak.
• Using Beatles song "I Should Have Known Better" to woo a girl via radio dedication at age 13
• Billy Joel's Glass Houses album as soundtrack to adolescent heartbreak in 1980
• Live concert review of Gang of Four's recent April 29, 2025 show at Variety Playhouse
• Meeting original Gang of Four members and REM's Mike Mills' surprise appearance
Whether you're nostalgic for the days of handwritten radio dedications or simply appreciate how certain albums become emotional lifelines during formative years, this episode reminds us that music doesn't just mark time—it helps us navigate life's most challenging moments while creating connections that span decades.
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Bogeand you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 77.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
When I was in junior highschool long time ago, I would
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listen to a show on a collegeradio station.
I think I mentioned it oncebefore.
Every Monday night the Beatleshour was on Adelphi University's
WBAU I think it was 90.3 onyour FM dial and I learned so
much about the Beatles becausethey kind of they would play
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things, I think in 1980, likeyou know, january 1st.
They were playing what theBeatles or talking about what
the Beatles did January 1st 1960.
So the show was kind of likethey would touch on a lot of
different things from like 20years prior.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Sounds kind of familiar.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It does sound a little familiar, doesn't it?
But it was cool, I really did.
You know they also played stufffrom John, Paul, George and
Ringo.
Like their solo stuff, Most ofit, I really learned from the
show.
Ringo, like their solo stuff,most of it, I really learned
from the show.
And they would do this likeradiothon, like a yearly
radiothon college radio station.
They actually shared the dialwith another college because
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they just couldn't afford tohave their own.
And you know you would donatemoney, you know, I guess, to buy
records and you know whateverit is that you need to do to
keep a radio station going.
So for a few weeks before theRadiothon, the host would come
on and they would say, hey,we'll play your song, donate
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however many dollars and Ihonestly don't remember what it
was or if you give this amountof money, we'll give you.
You know people donated albums.
We'll give you this album, oror whatever.
You know it wasn't a lot ofmoney.
It was 1980.
You know you weren't doing awhole lot back then yeah so 45
years ago, this spring, I came,came up with this plan all right
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, and I don't remember if it waslate April, it was early May,
but it was right around now.
45 years ago, I liked a girlI'm 13 at the time.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And I'm not sure how to tell her that I like her.
Mixtape At the time mixtapedidn't register.
That wasn't even a part of mywhole music-cabulary, if I can
call it that.
I like it.
So I decided I was going towrite a letter to the radio
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station and I was going to put afew single-dollar bills in it
and have them read the letterand get her to listen to the
show on that night.
Oh, and, that was my whole planand what it was?
It was the Beatles song IShould have Known Better, which
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is the B-side of A Hard Day'sNight from 1964.
I got the original 45 at somepoint, you know, within the last
six months of this time,because my grandmother was
cleaning out my aunt's room andall these records.
She just gave them to me.
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So I Should have Known Betterat this time.
It's like a new song to me.
So I should have known betterat this time.
It's like a new song to me.
I've never heard it.
I've been listening, you know,maybe six months, like I said,
and I'm like this song that's apretty good b-side yeah, it
really is.
Song by john lennon.
Great harmonica, intro andoutro plays a little bit
throughout the song.
I should have known better witha girl like you that I would
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love everything you do and I do.
Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And I do.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
There you go.
You know the song quite well,jimmy.
So I wrote this letter and Idon't remember everything about
the letter, but it was kind oflike hey, can you play this song
?
I like this girl Blah, thisgirl blah, blah, blah, blah.
And they read the letter on airGreat, the whole letter.
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Now, I was not.
I'm not like now where I don'thave a problem saying my name.
You know this is the podcastand you know I'm wearing a shirt
with my picture on it.
You're wearing a shirt with mypicture on it.
I didn't want to be known atall, so I decided to sign it
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Beatleman.
So you know, that was the bestI could come up with.
And oh, I didn't mention it was8-track Johnny's sister.
Okay, again, I'm 13 years old.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Cassette Carrie.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
No, no, no, it was Music, mary.
Okay, so it was just a time inmy life where just things, you
know, everything was new.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So you wanted the courage to tell her that you
liked her, but then, when youdid this elaborate thing, you
still didn't tell her who youwere.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
No, but I had told her hey, listen, I listen to
this Beatles show every week?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You really need to listen tonight.
And it wasn't just like then, Ithink, that I told her maybe,
you know, like the Friday beforeand then that Monday, all
throughout school I was like,hey, you got to listen, you got
to listen.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
you know she's like what's the problem here?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
She's my next-door neighbor too, so it's not like
there's this big, hugedifference.
She's my next door neighbor too, so it's not like there's this
big, huge difference.
And you know, she listened andthey read it and I got to be
honest with you, I wasembarrassed as they read the
letter from a standpoint of fora 13 year old.
To me, like this is radio, youknow, and they're talking.
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Now they don't know it's me,but they were so impressed that
I sent in I think I sent likefive, maybe $3 or five singles,
I don't remember, and thatthey're like you know, this
young man, blah, blah, blah,blah.
This goes out to Mary and thenboom, the song comes on and I'm
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like this is just fantastic.
This is like music is reallycool because it can help me with
a lot of things.
You know that when I tell youthat I love you, oh, you're
going to say you love me too, oh.
And when I ask you to be mine,you're going to say you love me
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too, and that was the song.
You know, who knows what loveis when you're 13,?
You know, you don't know, butthat was the song that got me
and it wasn't initially, itwasn't like the next day, all of
a sudden, you know we're dating.
But as a few weeks went by, westarted to actually date.
She was my girlfriend, a 13year old, you know girlfriend.
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Um, I think she actually turnedum 14 in May, so I was 13.
She was 14.
Now it sounds like a ThomasDolby song, but anyway, that's a
whole other thing, you know.
And we're hanging out and, youknow, going to friends' houses
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and it was just cool to be ableto show up and be like look at
me.
You know, I did this thing onthe radio and now I've got this
girlfriend, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So it was pretty cool .
So, about the same time, one ofthe big albums that was out in
the summer of 80, spring 80,summer 80, fall 80, was Billy
Joel, glass Houses.
Right, and it had, you May BeRight.
That was the first singlePeaked at number seven on the
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Billboard Hot 100, may 3rd of1980, 45 years ago.
You May Be Right, I May BeCrazy, oh, but it just may be
the lunatic you're looking forand I'm like man.
This song rocks.
I like this.
This is really cool.
So you know it starts off witha window being shattered.
(09:10):
It's just cool, it's justsomething different.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
And, of course, the cover of Glass Houses has Billy
Joel standing in front of ahouse, with these huge windows
covering the whole front of thehouse, holding a brick right.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Which is actually his house at the time.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yes, I don't think he threw a brick through his own
window.
No, that wasn't necessary Ithink that they made a little,
you know in-studio sound of theglass breaking.
So that was the first single.
Second one was it's Still Rockand Roll to Me.
That was played all summer long.
I mean that song was nonstop.
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It peaked at number one in Julyof 1980.
Like I said, big, big summersong.
Third one was Don't Ask Me whyPeaked at number 19 in September
and sometimes a fantasy atnumber 36 in November of 80.
So it was really a year ofBilly Joel, a year of Glass
Houses.
It was a really good album.
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It was different from a lot ofthe stuff he did before.
52nd Street kind of showed somechange in him, you know,
getting away from just like thatpiano sound, just the New York
state of mind, which I love.
Or the entertainer or Piano manstarted to make some changes,
but this was like a real rockand roll record.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And you know listening to it a lot really
helped me get through thoseawkward early teenage years like
when Mary and I were no longertogether, which wasn't all that
long.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That's the way it works.
You know when you're 13.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
When you're 13.
That's in all that long.
That's the way it works, youknow, when you're 13.
When you're 13.
And the song All for Lena fromthe opening piano, you know it
just sounds like a song ofdistress and at the time I was
in distress as a 13-year-oldbecause this girl that I went
out of my way to get stuffplayed on the radio now is not
with me and I don't even knowwhy.
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You know, you don't even.
I think I only remember any ofthis is because I wrote the
letter to the radio station.
The music part is what makes meremember it.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I'm not sure I would remember anything about it if it
wasn't for that I remember thefirst time I got broken up with
because it was kind of a bigdeal and she said she wanted to
be friends and I was like, well,that's a pretty good trade-off,
we can be friends still.
But she was just being nice.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, she was Jimmy.
I'm glad that you know that.
Yeah, that wasn't going tohappen, that's how naive I was.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I'd never heard the let's just be friends line
before that.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
There you go.
We've all been there, we've allbeen there.
She stood on the tracks allbeen there, we've all been there
.
She stood on the tracks wavingher arms, leading me to that
third rail shock Quick, as awink, she changed her mind,
jimmy, right there.
Billy Joel wrote that inadvance of me and her breaking
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up and knew I would have tolisten to the song that it would
help me out.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, did you write a letter to the radio station and
have them read a new thing?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I did not.
But you know, I felt luckyenough that at the time you know
, when you're 13, boy or girl,whatever you know, life is just
changing.
There's so much going on inyour world.
And lucky enough to have music,lucky enough to have this album
that you know he was singing itand I talk about this often.
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He was singing it like it wascoming right from his heart,
like he played it like it wascoming from his heart.
He sang it like it was and Icould connect to that.
I could connect to man.
He knows exactly how I feel.
Yeah, I'm sure that at somepoint he did, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
All right, yeah, it came from a real place.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So, and I mean you know, I mean you remember those
times.
You remember the first timesomeone you know broke up with
you, like you said, like they'retough, it's awkward, it's not
easy, you know.
Yeah.
So now I'm in my room watchingthe tube telling myself she
still may drop over to say she'schanged her mind.
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Now I wasn't watching the tube,I was listening to music.
And, yeah, she didn't changeher mind.
All right, that never happened.
All right, some of thenon-single songs, sleeping With
the Television On.
So that song starts off withthe last few bars of the
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national anthem, I think it is,and then that sound of the going
off air.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Right, like a test tone or something.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yes, back in the day, tv stations would sign off like
12 midnight or 1 am, but at acertain point there were no
stations on.
It was done.
You know, you had nothing towatch, you know, and it was just
crazy to think that that's whatused to happen and that doesn't
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happen.
Now you have 24-hour, instantaccess to everything, everything
, whether it's the television,it's your phone, it's the
internet, whatever it is.
I mean, it's just nonstop.
45 years ago it's like night,night time, everybody go to
sleep, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Because they needed people there to run the TV
station and they didn't want topay an overnight crew.
So it was like all right, we'redone with the second shift.
Here Nobody watches TV at night, you know, overnight anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, I mean, I think you're exactly right.
You know they didn't want topay anyone because nobody
watches it, except the peoplethat were sleeping with the
television on, where you justhear that sound and you're
looking at that funky lookingscreen.
You know, right, I mean it's, Iremember it.
It's funny, like you know,right, I mean it's, I remember
it.
It's funny, like you know, youdon't think about it, but as I
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was thinking about, you know,talking about this topic and you
know these topics, it startedto all come back and the sound
in my ears and the whole nineyards, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
The other thing that uh was tough is if you woke up
too early.
You know like I remember beinga kid and getting up for
Saturday morning cartoons is ifyou woke up too early.
You know like I remember beinga kid and getting up for
saturday morning cartoons, butif you were up before 6 am the
tv wasn't on yet nobody wasworking and the cartoons didn't
really start till like eight ornine.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Anyway, right yeah, no, you're right about that
different times.
It's a good thing that we'rehere to remember them.
Some people might have forgotyeah or or never.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Had to.
You know, never live through it.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
We lived through it and we made it Close to the
borderline begins with blackout,heat wave, 44 caliber homicide,
and it's the New York Cityblackout of 1977, which started
the first day of a heat wave andit was the last of the Son of
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Sam's victims in July.
All this taking place in July1977.
All right, son of Sam, Ibelieve started in David
Berkowitz in 1976.
The last of them was in July of1977.
But you had the blackout.
All five boroughs went dark.
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The heat wave was unbelievable.
I remember, jimmy, for the heatwave we had a room upstairs in
our house.
We didn't sleep up there, weslept outside on.
We call them chase lounges.
Yeah, that's what we did,because it was cooler to sleep
out in the heat than it was tobe up in our room.
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It was so bad, it really reallywas.
Was Long Island all out too?
Long Island was not out, but westill had the heat wave Right,
and I remember that we were.
We went to the beach because wewere going to cool off.
That we were.
We went to the beach because wewere going to cool off.
Think about that Burning sand,the sun beating down on you.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
That was our answer to the heat wave that we're
going to go to the beach.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
We went to Jones Beach.
You can get in the water.
You could get into the waterbut that the sun was still just
coming down on you.
But I remember, like thelooting you know we could see TV
because we had power.
The looting was unbelievable.
I mean, people just went rightinto buildings and were taking
televisions and you know,whatever they could, and they
didn't care if anyone saw them.
They were good to go it wasdark.
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Yeah, it was dark.
The only light was thetelevision camera people, the
lights that they had on.
You know, you know how theyused to have all those lights
that they would turn on and itwould now make it a brighter
scene.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, they still do that.
I don't know if they do.
Yeah, they do.
Oh well, they have to have alight in order to shoot at night
.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh, I thought technology they could do
anything, I don't know.
But man, I mean the, the heat,the of the .44 caliber killer.
It brings me all back.
It really brings me back,listening to glasshouses.
So I wait in the dark listeningfor her, instead of my old man
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saying stop kidding yourself,wasting your time.
Whoa and Jimmy, I should haveknown better.
Fun show so far, jimmy, I'menjoying it.
What about you?
Me too.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, you know what I think you're going to enjoy.
If you look in front of you,there's a bag.
Open that bag.
Oh, that is a gift's a bag Openthat bag.
Oh, that is a gift from alistener.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Wow, oh man, that is so cool.
What is it, jimmy?
It is a microphone.
It's like a sort of a statue ofa tabletop, old-fashioned
microphone.
It looks kind of like a ShureSM1, I think it is.
And yeah, it's so cool.
Who gave this?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Listener Barry, who also gave us the 96 Rock bumper
stickers.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Which I'm looking at right now over here on top of my
little table.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
We have something new to add to it.
Oh, thanks.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Barry Wow, yeah, isn't that pretty cool,
incredible.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yes, barry, thank you very much.
It looks very awesome.
Speaking of 96 Rock, someoneelse brought in half of a 96
Rock card that they were doingyard work and they found it at
their house as they took stuffup and they're like they've
lived there for 17 years, so Ithought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
They knew how to make things back in the 80s.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yes, they did, and that was Jennifer, so she
brought that in.
I thought that was kind of cool.
We're not going to display thatlittle piece of card, but it's
cool that when she saw that,that immediately thought of
music in my shoes.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, awesome, wow.
Thanks again, Barry, that's socool.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Thank you, barry.
So Jimmy Gang of Four, the bandGang of Four played at the
Variety Playhouse last nighthere in Atlanta, georgia, and it
was the Long Goodbye Tour andthey were featuring the album
Entertainment that came out in1979.
I think, if I'm not mistaken,it was about 29 episodes we
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talked about the album.
That's a quick time ghost.
It was 29 episodes ago that wetalked about the album and I
decided I'm going to go.
It was a last minute thing thatI was going to go.
I went, I looked and then Ilooked at resale tickets and I
was able to find one for halfthe price and I bought it.
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So I went.
And because getting to theVariety Playhouse from where I
live it's an hour and a half.
It is not a picnic, it's no fun.
Okay, it is not any funwhatsoever.
Going home, it's an hour, butgetting there is an hour and a
half of just bumper to bumpertraffic, wow.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I'm spoiled.
It's like down the street forme.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I figured you were going to say something like that
.
Yeah, so I get to the, to theum Variety Playhouse.
There's a you know like kind ofaround the corner, a little
place to park.
I go into park.
As I'm parking, there's afriend of the show, kevin Kinney
, paying for his parking.
I'm like Kevin, there's Jim,you know I park.
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We end up just talking for afew minutes.
It was getting close to theshow time and I saw his wife was
kind of you know off in thedistance and he's like, hey,
I'll see you inside.
I said, yeah, sounds good, soget into the show.
And it was so cool.
There were so many old punkrock people there and a lot of
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them had difficulty walking andhad canes and whatever very
similar to when I went to seeDead Company.
But it's so cool to see so manypeople that they still want to
be out there and they still wantto be part of the scene and
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, slam dancing takes a toll on a body.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
There was no slam dancing.
I can tell you that there wasnone, but it does take a toll.
It took a toll on everybodybecause they didn't do any of it
whatsoever.
So you know, they played a tonof songs.
I'm not going to go throughthem, I'm not even going to go
through a lot of them.
But you know, ether DamagedGoods I found that Essence Rare.
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At Home he's a Tourist.
I mean, I just love that song.
I just love that song so much.
It is just so different andit's just the words to the song.
It's like I can't believe theyhave a song At Home.
He's a Tourist, but it's agreat song.
Anthrax.
I Love a man in a Uniformbecause they took a break
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halfway through because theywere sweating so much they had
to change their clothes.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Really.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yes, mike Mills, bassist of REM, joins the band
on what we All Want and it wasso cool because REM used to open
up for REM and Pylon used toopen up for Gang of Four.
Back in the day when REM wasyou know, they were trying to
make it and so forth and bothbands became friends and they've
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stayed friends throughout allof these years and it was just
really cool.
Later on Mike Mills comes backout.
He's playing guitar on both ofthem and they do a cover of the
Velvet Underground's Sweet Jane.
That was actually really good.
A lot of times people play thatit's kind of iffy.
I thought they did a great jobwith it, really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
They finished off the show playing Damaged Goods a
second time.
As singer John King said,because we can and I was like
that great, great song, you know, kind of reminded me of like
bands early, you know late 70s,early 80s bands.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
They didn't have a lot of stuff and they play stuff
and then they play that bigsong that hit or what they
thought people want to hit, youknow, the second time towards
the end when, when Greg Wheatsaw NXS on their first tour,
they were playing at just like abar in Atlanta and they yeah,
they only had one album's worthof material, so they played.
They just started their setover and played their big hit
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again.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, you know what you got to do.
What you got to do and I meanit really was cool because I
can't tell you the last time Iheard a band play a song twice,
you know.
So it was cool.
And when they played it thesecond time, everybody was
standing up.
It was like really one of thefirst times everybody, sweet
chain, most people were up, butby the last song, damaged goods.
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The second time everybody wasstanding up.
So there's a big fan in thevariety playhouse.
Okay, a lot of warehouses havethem to kind of cool the place
off, but they have one insidethe variety playhouse up on the
ceiling.
And for me, as I've gotten older, when there's wind it really
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bothers my eyes, dries them outand they start to tear a little
bit.
I'm not going to lie.
Well, this big fan is going andas Mike Mills is playing, I got
my phone out and I'm recordingthe video and I can't take my
hand to wipe my eye because I'mrecording, you know, videoing.
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I don't want to stop the nextthing.
I know I have a tear comingdown my face because my eyes are
so dry and I'm saying thepeople next to me are going.
Why is he crying because MikeMills is playing with Gang of
Four and I was like, oh, this iscrazy.
But you know what?
I got the video.
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So that's all I wanted.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Well done.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
And when it was done I had to close my eyes for like
two minutes because they reallywere so dried out.
Wow, yeah, the fan isincredible.
I've never seen a big fan likethat in any place I've ever been
.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I know the fan.
It's one of those.
They call them big A fans.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes, that is correct.
So after the show I have to goto the bathroom and I go into
the bathroom and I kind of slingthe door open and I don't
realize.
But there's kind of like a linein the bathroom, a few people
and I hit someone, almost hitsomeone kind of I think I did,
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and I look, I'm like I'm sorry,and Kevin Kenny's like that'd be
you, jim.
I didn't even know he was inthere.
So we laughed, we, you know,talked a little bit more, and
then a few minutes later I raninto John King, the singer of
Gang of Four, and drummer HugoBurnham, both original members.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
This is John King of Gang of Four.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Hello, this is Hugo Burnham from Gang of Four and
got to talk to them and it wascool.
I mean it washam from Gang ofFour and got to talk to them and
it was cool.
I mean it was just a lot of fun.
I talked about the episodewhere we talked about
entertainment and it just wasreally neat telling someone like
hey, last year we thought youralbum was so cool.
We talked about it, not becauseyou're here now.
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At the time the tour wasn'teven announced.
I think they didn't announcethe tour till a few days after
we did that episode.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Maybe they did it because of the episode.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
One could be thinking that, but it's not true.
You know it's not true.
Could?
be, but it was a lot of fun, youknow, got my picture with them
and I said to them when I wasgetting the picture.
I said I am going to be theenvy of many people that I know
because they're not going tobelieve that I got my picture
with the both of you and theywere very appreciative of that
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and it was a really good show.
It was a really good time.
So glad that I went and gladthat I got that discounted
ticket for it.
Yeah, nice, classic earlyguitar, you know, that's kind of
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what they were known for Alittle bit slower than you
Really Got Me, and All Day andAll of the Night, but a really
really good song.
So Tired, tired of Waiting,tired of Waiting for you.
May 11th 1985, we're going to go20 years in the future.
Power Station's Some Like itHot super group with Robert
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Palmer on vocals, andy Taylorand John Taylor, guitars and
bass from Duran Duran and TonyThompson on drums from Chic.
Oh yeah, and originally Ibelieve Michael DeBar was the
original lead singer of thePower Station but he had some
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other commitments and then itended up that Robert Palmer came
in, was going to do one song orsomething, I don't remember
exactly, but he ended up doingalmost all of them, I think, on
the album.
Michael DeBar has one song onit.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But all the rest of them are Robert Palmer.
Some like it hot and some sweatwhen the heat is on.
And speaking of sweating andthe heat being on, it's Minute
with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Minute with Jimmy Talking about the World Party
album Goodbye Jumbo, which cameout May 8th 1990.
So that's been 35 years ago.
Great record Really starts outwith a bang it's got, is it Too
Late?
Is the first song on the recordand then within a couple you've
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got Put the Message in the Boxand Way Down Now.
So I mean a lot of WorldParty's best songs just loaded
onto the front of that album.
So I really like that record.
And speaking of the VarietyPlayhouse, I got to see them
when Carl Wallinger made hiscomeback after his aneurysm,
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which he had in 2001, and theythought he might not survive and
would never play again.
But he actually came back,toured as World Party.
Um, not sure how many otheroriginal members of it were with
him or not, but he wasfantastic.
He played the Variety Playhousein 2006.
So I was really glad I got tosee that.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And that's perfect timing for Minute with Jimmy.
Really good album.
The songs really stand the testof time, Jimmy, Like if you
listen to them now they're stillas good as they were when that
album came out.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Oh yeah, I still do listen to them a good bit.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, real good stuff there.
Real good stuff.
I like that.
It's like a world party.
My name is Jimmy and, if I'mnot mistaken, jimmy May 8th was
8-Track Johnny's sister, mary'sbirthday, for some reason.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I think that it was.
It's my friend SteveBroderick's birthday too, so
it's a good day.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
There you go, there you go, listen.
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Share the podcast on socialmedia and turn them on to the
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Thank you to those of you thathave.
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That's it for episode 77 ofMusic in my Shoes.
It is not the summer of 77.
Thank the Lord, no blackout, noheat wave, no .44 caliber
homicide.
But I do want to thank JimmyGuthrie, show producer and owner
of Arcade 160 Studios locatedhere in Atlanta, georgia, and
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Vic Thrill for our podcast music.
This is, jim, and I hope youlearned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
© BF-WATCH TV 2021.
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Bogeand you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 77.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
When I was in junior highschool long time ago, I would
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listen to a show on a collegeradio station.
I think I mentioned it oncebefore.
Every Monday night the Beatleshour was on Adelphi University's
WBAU I think it was 90.3 onyour FM dial and I learned so
much about the Beatles becausethey kind of they would play
(01:16):
things, I think in 1980, likeyou know, january 1st.
They were playing what theBeatles or talking about what
the Beatles did January 1st 1960.
So the show was kind of likethey would touch on a lot of
different things from like 20years prior.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Sounds kind of familiar.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It does sound a little familiar, doesn't it?
But it was cool, I really did.
You know they also played stufffrom John, Paul, George and
Ringo.
Like their solo stuff, Most ofit, I really learned from the
show.
Ringo, like their solo stuff,most of it, I really learned
from the show.
And they would do this likeradiothon, like a yearly
radiothon college radio station.
They actually shared the dialwith another college because
(01:56):
they just couldn't afford tohave their own.
And you know you would donatemoney, you know, I guess, to buy
records and you know whateverit is that you need to do to
keep a radio station going.
So for a few weeks before theRadiothon, the host would come
on and they would say, hey,we'll play your song, donate
(02:25):
however many dollars and Ihonestly don't remember what it
was or if you give this amountof money, we'll give you.
You know people donated albums.
We'll give you this album, oror whatever.
You know it wasn't a lot ofmoney.
It was 1980.
You know you weren't doing awhole lot back then yeah so 45
years ago, this spring, I came,came up with this plan all right
(02:46):
, and I don't remember if it waslate April, it was early May,
but it was right around now.
45 years ago, I liked a girlI'm 13 at the time.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And I'm not sure how to tell her that I like her.
Mixtape At the time mixtapedidn't register.
That wasn't even a part of mywhole music-cabulary, if I can
call it that.
I like it.
So I decided I was going towrite a letter to the radio
(03:21):
station and I was going to put afew single-dollar bills in it
and have them read the letterand get her to listen to the
show on that night.
Oh, and, that was my whole planand what it was?
It was the Beatles song IShould have Known Better, which
(03:43):
is the B-side of A Hard Day'sNight from 1964.
I got the original 45 at somepoint, you know, within the last
six months of this time,because my grandmother was
cleaning out my aunt's room andall these records.
She just gave them to me.
(04:03):
So I Should have Known Betterat this time.
It's like a new song to me.
So I should have known betterat this time.
It's like a new song to me.
I've never heard it.
I've been listening, you know,maybe six months, like I said,
and I'm like this song that's apretty good b-side yeah, it
really is.
Song by john lennon.
Great harmonica, intro andoutro plays a little bit
throughout the song.
I should have known better witha girl like you that I would
(04:26):
love everything you do and I do.
Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And I do.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
There you go.
You know the song quite well,jimmy.
So I wrote this letter and Idon't remember everything about
the letter, but it was kind oflike hey, can you play this song
?
I like this girl Blah, thisgirl blah, blah, blah, blah.
And they read the letter on airGreat, the whole letter.
(04:54):
Now, I was not.
I'm not like now where I don'thave a problem saying my name.
You know this is the podcastand you know I'm wearing a shirt
with my picture on it.
You're wearing a shirt with mypicture on it.
I didn't want to be known atall, so I decided to sign it
(05:15):
Beatleman.
So you know, that was the bestI could come up with.
And oh, I didn't mention it was8-track Johnny's sister.
Okay, again, I'm 13 years old.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Cassette Carrie.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
No, no, no, it was Music, mary.
Okay, so it was just a time inmy life where just things, you
know, everything was new.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So you wanted the courage to tell her that you
liked her, but then, when youdid this elaborate thing, you
still didn't tell her who youwere.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
No, but I had told her hey, listen, I listen to
this Beatles show every week?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You really need to listen tonight.
And it wasn't just like then, Ithink, that I told her maybe,
you know, like the Friday beforeand then that Monday, all
throughout school I was like,hey, you got to listen, you got
to listen.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
you know she's like what's the problem here?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
She's my next-door neighbor too, so it's not like
there's this big, hugedifference.
She's my next door neighbor too, so it's not like there's this
big, huge difference.
And you know, she listened andthey read it and I got to be
honest with you, I wasembarrassed as they read the
letter from a standpoint of fora 13 year old.
To me, like this is radio, youknow, and they're talking.
(06:43):
Now they don't know it's me,but they were so impressed that
I sent in I think I sent likefive, maybe $3 or five singles,
I don't remember, and thatthey're like you know, this
young man, blah, blah, blah,blah.
This goes out to Mary and thenboom, the song comes on and I'm
(07:08):
like this is just fantastic.
This is like music is reallycool because it can help me with
a lot of things.
You know that when I tell youthat I love you, oh, you're
going to say you love me too, oh.
And when I ask you to be mine,you're going to say you love me
(07:32):
too, and that was the song.
You know, who knows what loveis when you're 13,?
You know, you don't know, butthat was the song that got me
and it wasn't initially, itwasn't like the next day, all of
a sudden, you know we're dating.
But as a few weeks went by, westarted to actually date.
She was my girlfriend, a 13year old, you know girlfriend.
(07:55):
Um, I think she actually turnedum 14 in May, so I was 13.
She was 14.
Now it sounds like a ThomasDolby song, but anyway, that's a
whole other thing, you know.
And we're hanging out and, youknow, going to friends' houses
(08:16):
and it was just cool to be ableto show up and be like look at
me.
You know, I did this thing onthe radio and now I've got this
girlfriend, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So it was pretty cool .
So, about the same time, one ofthe big albums that was out in
the summer of 80, spring 80,summer 80, fall 80, was Billy
Joel, glass Houses.
Right, and it had, you May BeRight.
That was the first singlePeaked at number seven on the
(08:48):
Billboard Hot 100, may 3rd of1980, 45 years ago.
You May Be Right, I May BeCrazy, oh, but it just may be
the lunatic you're looking forand I'm like man.
This song rocks.
I like this.
This is really cool.
So you know it starts off witha window being shattered.
(09:10):
It's just cool, it's justsomething different.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
And, of course, the cover of Glass Houses has Billy
Joel standing in front of ahouse, with these huge windows
covering the whole front of thehouse, holding a brick right.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Which is actually his house at the time.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yes, I don't think he threw a brick through his own
window.
No, that wasn't necessary Ithink that they made a little,
you know in-studio sound of theglass breaking.
So that was the first single.
Second one was it's Still Rockand Roll to Me.
That was played all summer long.
I mean that song was nonstop.
(09:46):
It peaked at number one in Julyof 1980.
Like I said, big, big summersong.
Third one was Don't Ask Me whyPeaked at number 19 in September
and sometimes a fantasy atnumber 36 in November of 80.
So it was really a year ofBilly Joel, a year of Glass
Houses.
It was a really good album.
(10:08):
It was different from a lot ofthe stuff he did before.
52nd Street kind of showed somechange in him, you know,
getting away from just like thatpiano sound, just the New York
state of mind, which I love.
Or the entertainer or Piano manstarted to make some changes,
but this was like a real rockand roll record.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And you know listening to it a lot really
helped me get through thoseawkward early teenage years like
when Mary and I were no longertogether, which wasn't all that
long.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That's the way it works.
You know when you're 13.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
When you're 13.
That's in all that long.
That's the way it works, youknow, when you're 13.
When you're 13.
And the song All for Lena fromthe opening piano, you know it
just sounds like a song ofdistress and at the time I was
in distress as a 13-year-oldbecause this girl that I went
out of my way to get stuffplayed on the radio now is not
with me and I don't even knowwhy.
(11:05):
You know, you don't even.
I think I only remember any ofthis is because I wrote the
letter to the radio station.
The music part is what makes meremember it.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I'm not sure I would remember anything about it if it
wasn't for that I remember thefirst time I got broken up with
because it was kind of a bigdeal and she said she wanted to
be friends and I was like, well,that's a pretty good trade-off,
we can be friends still.
But she was just being nice.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, she was Jimmy.
I'm glad that you know that.
Yeah, that wasn't going tohappen, that's how naive I was.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I'd never heard the let's just be friends line
before that.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
There you go.
We've all been there, we've allbeen there.
She stood on the tracks allbeen there, we've all been there
.
She stood on the tracks wavingher arms, leading me to that
third rail shock Quick, as awink, she changed her mind,
jimmy, right there.
Billy Joel wrote that inadvance of me and her breaking
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up and knew I would have tolisten to the song that it would
help me out.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, did you write a letter to the radio station and
have them read a new thing?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I did not.
But you know, I felt luckyenough that at the time you know
, when you're 13, boy or girl,whatever you know, life is just
changing.
There's so much going on inyour world.
And lucky enough to have music,lucky enough to have this album
that you know he was singing itand I talk about this often.
(12:31):
He was singing it like it wascoming right from his heart,
like he played it like it wascoming from his heart.
He sang it like it was and Icould connect to that.
I could connect to man.
He knows exactly how I feel.
Yeah, I'm sure that at somepoint he did, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
All right, yeah, it came from a real place.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So, and I mean you know, I mean you remember those
times.
You remember the first timesomeone you know broke up with
you, like you said, like they'retough, it's awkward, it's not
easy, you know.
Yeah.
So now I'm in my room watchingthe tube telling myself she
still may drop over to say she'schanged her mind.
(13:12):
Now I wasn't watching the tube,I was listening to music.
And, yeah, she didn't changeher mind.
All right, that never happened.
All right, some of thenon-single songs, sleeping With
the Television On.
So that song starts off withthe last few bars of the
(13:32):
national anthem, I think it is,and then that sound of the going
off air.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Right, like a test tone or something.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yes, back in the day, tv stations would sign off like
12 midnight or 1 am, but at acertain point there were no
stations on.
It was done.
You know, you had nothing towatch, you know, and it was just
crazy to think that that's whatused to happen and that doesn't
(14:05):
happen.
Now you have 24-hour, instantaccess to everything, everything
, whether it's the television,it's your phone, it's the
internet, whatever it is.
I mean, it's just nonstop.
45 years ago it's like night,night time, everybody go to
sleep, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Because they needed people there to run the TV
station and they didn't want topay an overnight crew.
So it was like all right, we'redone with the second shift.
Here Nobody watches TV at night, you know, overnight anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, I mean, I think you're exactly right.
You know they didn't want topay anyone because nobody
watches it, except the peoplethat were sleeping with the
television on, where you justhear that sound and you're
looking at that funky lookingscreen.
You know, right, I mean it's, Iremember it.
It's funny, like you know,right, I mean it's, I remember
it.
It's funny, like you know, youdon't think about it, but as I
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was thinking about, you know,talking about this topic and you
know these topics, it startedto all come back and the sound
in my ears and the whole nineyards, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
The other thing that uh was tough is if you woke up
too early.
You know like I remember beinga kid and getting up for
Saturday morning cartoons is ifyou woke up too early.
You know like I remember beinga kid and getting up for
saturday morning cartoons, butif you were up before 6 am the
tv wasn't on yet nobody wasworking and the cartoons didn't
really start till like eight ornine.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Anyway, right yeah, no, you're right about that
different times.
It's a good thing that we'rehere to remember them.
Some people might have forgotyeah or or never.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Had to.
You know, never live through it.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
We lived through it and we made it Close to the
borderline begins with blackout,heat wave, 44 caliber homicide,
and it's the New York Cityblackout of 1977, which started
the first day of a heat wave andit was the last of the Son of
(16:01):
Sam's victims in July.
All this taking place in July1977.
All right, son of Sam, Ibelieve started in David
Berkowitz in 1976.
The last of them was in July of1977.
But you had the blackout.
All five boroughs went dark.
(16:21):
The heat wave was unbelievable.
I remember, jimmy, for the heatwave we had a room upstairs in
our house.
We didn't sleep up there, weslept outside on.
We call them chase lounges.
Yeah, that's what we did,because it was cooler to sleep
out in the heat than it was tobe up in our room.
(16:42):
It was so bad, it really reallywas.
Was Long Island all out too?
Long Island was not out, but westill had the heat wave Right,
and I remember that we were.
We went to the beach because wewere going to cool off.
That we were.
We went to the beach because wewere going to cool off.
Think about that Burning sand,the sun beating down on you.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
That was our answer to the heat wave that we're
going to go to the beach.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
We went to Jones Beach.
You can get in the water.
You could get into the waterbut that the sun was still just
coming down on you.
But I remember, like thelooting you know we could see TV
because we had power.
The looting was unbelievable.
I mean, people just went rightinto buildings and were taking
televisions and you know,whatever they could, and they
didn't care if anyone saw them.
They were good to go it wasdark.
(17:27):
Yeah, it was dark.
The only light was thetelevision camera people, the
lights that they had on.
You know, you know how theyused to have all those lights
that they would turn on and itwould now make it a brighter
scene.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, they still do that.
I don't know if they do.
Yeah, they do.
Oh well, they have to have alight in order to shoot at night
.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh, I thought technology they could do
anything, I don't know.
But man, I mean the, the heat,the of the .44 caliber killer.
It brings me all back.
It really brings me back,listening to glasshouses.
So I wait in the dark listeningfor her, instead of my old man
(18:09):
saying stop kidding yourself,wasting your time.
Whoa and Jimmy, I should haveknown better.
Fun show so far, jimmy, I'menjoying it.
What about you?
Me too.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, you know what I think you're going to enjoy.
If you look in front of you,there's a bag.
Open that bag.
Oh, that is a gift's a bag Openthat bag.
Oh, that is a gift from alistener.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Wow, oh man, that is so cool.
What is it, jimmy?
It is a microphone.
It's like a sort of a statue ofa tabletop, old-fashioned
microphone.
It looks kind of like a ShureSM1, I think it is.
And yeah, it's so cool.
Who gave this?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Listener Barry, who also gave us the 96 Rock bumper
stickers.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Which I'm looking at right now over here on top of my
little table.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
We have something new to add to it.
Oh, thanks.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Barry Wow, yeah, isn't that pretty cool,
incredible.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yes, barry, thank you very much.
It looks very awesome.
Speaking of 96 Rock, someoneelse brought in half of a 96
Rock card that they were doingyard work and they found it at
their house as they took stuffup and they're like they've
lived there for 17 years, so Ithought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
They knew how to make things back in the 80s.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yes, they did, and that was Jennifer, so she
brought that in.
I thought that was kind of cool.
We're not going to display thatlittle piece of card, but it's
cool that when she saw that,that immediately thought of
music in my shoes.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, awesome, wow.
Thanks again, Barry, that's socool.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Thank you, barry.
So Jimmy Gang of Four, the bandGang of Four played at the
Variety Playhouse last nighthere in Atlanta, georgia, and it
was the Long Goodbye Tour andthey were featuring the album
Entertainment that came out in1979.
I think, if I'm not mistaken,it was about 29 episodes we
(20:25):
talked about the album.
That's a quick time ghost.
It was 29 episodes ago that wetalked about the album and I
decided I'm going to go.
It was a last minute thing thatI was going to go.
I went, I looked and then Ilooked at resale tickets and I
was able to find one for halfthe price and I bought it.
(20:46):
So I went.
And because getting to theVariety Playhouse from where I
live it's an hour and a half.
It is not a picnic, it's no fun.
Okay, it is not any funwhatsoever.
Going home, it's an hour, butgetting there is an hour and a
half of just bumper to bumpertraffic, wow.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I'm spoiled.
It's like down the street forme.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I figured you were going to say something like that
.
Yeah, so I get to the, to theum Variety Playhouse.
There's a you know like kind ofaround the corner, a little
place to park.
I go into park.
As I'm parking, there's afriend of the show, kevin Kinney
, paying for his parking.
I'm like Kevin, there's Jim,you know I park.
(21:31):
We end up just talking for afew minutes.
It was getting close to theshow time and I saw his wife was
kind of you know off in thedistance and he's like, hey,
I'll see you inside.
I said, yeah, sounds good, soget into the show.
And it was so cool.
There were so many old punkrock people there and a lot of
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them had difficulty walking andhad canes and whatever very
similar to when I went to seeDead Company.
But it's so cool to see so manypeople that they still want to
be out there and they still wantto be part of the scene and
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, slam dancing takes a toll on a body.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
There was no slam dancing.
I can tell you that there wasnone, but it does take a toll.
It took a toll on everybodybecause they didn't do any of it
whatsoever.
So you know, they played a tonof songs.
I'm not going to go throughthem, I'm not even going to go
through a lot of them.
But you know, ether DamagedGoods I found that Essence Rare.
(22:34):
At Home he's a Tourist.
I mean, I just love that song.
I just love that song so much.
It is just so different andit's just the words to the song.
It's like I can't believe theyhave a song At Home.
He's a Tourist, but it's agreat song.
Anthrax.
I Love a man in a Uniformbecause they took a break
(22:55):
halfway through because theywere sweating so much they had
to change their clothes.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Really.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yes, mike Mills, bassist of REM, joins the band
on what we All Want and it wasso cool because REM used to open
up for REM and Pylon used toopen up for Gang of Four.
Back in the day when REM wasyou know, they were trying to
make it and so forth and bothbands became friends and they've
(23:26):
stayed friends throughout allof these years and it was just
really cool.
Later on Mike Mills comes backout.
He's playing guitar on both ofthem and they do a cover of the
Velvet Underground's Sweet Jane.
That was actually really good.
A lot of times people play thatit's kind of iffy.
I thought they did a great jobwith it, really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
They finished off the show playing Damaged Goods a
second time.
As singer John King said,because we can and I was like
that great, great song, you know, kind of reminded me of like
bands early, you know late 70s,early 80s bands.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
They didn't have a lot of stuff and they play stuff
and then they play that bigsong that hit or what they
thought people want to hit, youknow, the second time towards
the end when, when Greg Wheatsaw NXS on their first tour,
they were playing at just like abar in Atlanta and they yeah,
they only had one album's worthof material, so they played.
They just started their setover and played their big hit
(24:32):
again.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, you know what you got to do.
What you got to do and I meanit really was cool because I
can't tell you the last time Iheard a band play a song twice,
you know.
So it was cool.
And when they played it thesecond time, everybody was
standing up.
It was like really one of thefirst times everybody, sweet
chain, most people were up, butby the last song, damaged goods.
(24:55):
The second time everybody wasstanding up.
So there's a big fan in thevariety playhouse.
Okay, a lot of warehouses havethem to kind of cool the place
off, but they have one insidethe variety playhouse up on the
ceiling.
And for me, as I've gotten older, when there's wind it really
(25:18):
bothers my eyes, dries them outand they start to tear a little
bit.
I'm not going to lie.
Well, this big fan is going andas Mike Mills is playing, I got
my phone out and I'm recordingthe video and I can't take my
hand to wipe my eye because I'mrecording, you know, videoing.
(25:41):
I don't want to stop the nextthing.
I know I have a tear comingdown my face because my eyes are
so dry and I'm saying thepeople next to me are going.
Why is he crying because MikeMills is playing with Gang of
Four and I was like, oh, this iscrazy.
But you know what?
I got the video.
(26:02):
So that's all I wanted.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Well done.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
And when it was done I had to close my eyes for like
two minutes because they reallywere so dried out.
Wow, yeah, the fan isincredible.
I've never seen a big fan likethat in any place I've ever been
.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I know the fan.
It's one of those.
They call them big A fans.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes, that is correct.
So after the show I have to goto the bathroom and I go into
the bathroom and I kind of slingthe door open and I don't
realize.
But there's kind of like a linein the bathroom, a few people
and I hit someone, almost hitsomeone kind of I think I did,
(26:48):
and I look, I'm like I'm sorry,and Kevin Kenny's like that'd be
you, jim.
I didn't even know he was inthere.
So we laughed, we, you know,talked a little bit more, and
then a few minutes later I raninto John King, the singer of
Gang of Four, and drummer HugoBurnham, both original members.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
This is John King of Gang of Four.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Hello, this is Hugo Burnham from Gang of Four and
got to talk to them and it wascool.
I mean it washam from Gang ofFour and got to talk to them and
it was cool.
I mean it was just a lot of fun.
I talked about the episodewhere we talked about
entertainment and it just wasreally neat telling someone like
hey, last year we thought youralbum was so cool.
We talked about it, not becauseyou're here now.
(27:37):
At the time the tour wasn'teven announced.
I think they didn't announcethe tour till a few days after
we did that episode.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Maybe they did it because of the episode.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
One could be thinking that, but it's not true.
You know it's not true.
Could?
be, but it was a lot of fun, youknow, got my picture with them
and I said to them when I wasgetting the picture.
I said I am going to be theenvy of many people that I know
because they're not going tobelieve that I got my picture
with the both of you and theywere very appreciative of that
(28:08):
and it was a really good show.
It was a really good time.
So glad that I went and gladthat I got that discounted
ticket for it.
Yeah, nice, classic earlyguitar, you know, that's kind of
(28:35):
what they were known for Alittle bit slower than you
Really Got Me, and All Day andAll of the Night, but a really
really good song.
So Tired, tired of Waiting,tired of Waiting for you.
May 11th 1985, we're going to go20 years in the future.
Power Station's Some Like itHot super group with Robert
(28:58):
Palmer on vocals, andy Taylorand John Taylor, guitars and
bass from Duran Duran and TonyThompson on drums from Chic.
Oh yeah, and originally Ibelieve Michael DeBar was the
original lead singer of thePower Station but he had some
(29:20):
other commitments and then itended up that Robert Palmer came
in, was going to do one song orsomething, I don't remember
exactly, but he ended up doingalmost all of them, I think, on
the album.
Michael DeBar has one song onit.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But all the rest of them are Robert Palmer.
Some like it hot and some sweatwhen the heat is on.
And speaking of sweating andthe heat being on, it's Minute
with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Minute with Jimmy Talking about the World Party
album Goodbye Jumbo, which cameout May 8th 1990.
So that's been 35 years ago.
Great record Really starts outwith a bang it's got, is it Too
Late?
Is the first song on the recordand then within a couple you've
(30:17):
got Put the Message in the Boxand Way Down Now.
So I mean a lot of WorldParty's best songs just loaded
onto the front of that album.
So I really like that record.
And speaking of the VarietyPlayhouse, I got to see them
when Carl Wallinger made hiscomeback after his aneurysm,
(30:40):
which he had in 2001, and theythought he might not survive and
would never play again.
But he actually came back,toured as World Party.
Um, not sure how many otheroriginal members of it were with
him or not, but he wasfantastic.
He played the Variety Playhousein 2006.
So I was really glad I got tosee that.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And that's perfect timing for Minute with Jimmy.
Really good album.
The songs really stand the testof time, Jimmy, Like if you
listen to them now they're stillas good as they were when that
album came out.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Oh yeah, I still do listen to them a good bit.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, real good stuff there.
Real good stuff.
I like that.
It's like a world party.
My name is Jimmy and, if I'mnot mistaken, jimmy May 8th was
8-Track Johnny's sister, mary'sbirthday, for some reason.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I think that it was.
It's my friend SteveBroderick's birthday too, so
it's a good day.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
There you go, there you go, listen.
You can contact us atmusicinmyshoes at gmailcom.
Please like and follow theMusic in my Shoes Facebook and
Instagram pages.
Share the podcast on socialmedia and turn them on to the
show, because if you're turnedon, I'm sure you know someone
else that needs to be turned on.
Thank you to those of you thathave.
(32:00):
That's it for episode 77 ofMusic in my Shoes.
It is not the summer of 77.
Thank the Lord, no blackout, noheat wave, no .44 caliber
homicide.
But I do want to thank JimmyGuthrie, show producer and owner
of Arcade 160 Studios locatedhere in Atlanta, georgia, and
(32:22):
Vic Thrill for our podcast music.
This is, jim, and I hope youlearned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
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