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Speaker 1 (00:24):
He's got the feeling
in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's got the feeling
and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 81.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
On June 3rd 1965, john Lennontook delivery of a black
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Rolls-Royce Phantom 5 limousine.
You know what they look like,jimmy.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Okay, it's a
limousine and it's made by Rolls
Royce.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It's about 19 feet.
It's probably a little bit morethan that.
It's close to 20 feet long andit was pretty cool and it came
in the normal color of black.
That was the main matte blackwas the color that they would
get and from 1959 until 1968,less than 520 Phantom 5
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limousines were produced, andthat's about 52 a year.
I mean there's not many of them.
He had ordered it in December.
He takes delivery of it thebeginning of June.
June 3rd Took a while.
Wow, yeah, A lot ofcraftsmanship went into it yeah,
handmade.
Literally handmade, I kid you,not 1966, he takes the limo to
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Spain while he's filming themovie how I Won the War.
And I'm going to be honest withyou, I am a huge Beatles fan,
big John Lennon fan.
You know love, all the thingsthat all the Beatles have done
solo, have seen Let it Be.
I've seen Help, I've seen HardDay's Night, yellow Submarine,
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you know, anthology documentary.
I mean everything, get back,get back everything.
But I have never seen how I Wonthe War.
I have to be honest with you, Ihaven't either.
I have never seen it and it justsurprises me that I haven't
even made the attempt to see it.
It's not even like oh, let melook it up.
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It's not like I haven't seen itin my lifetime because I
couldn't see it.
It's not even like oh, let melook it up.
It's not like I haven't seen itin my lifetime because I
couldn't see it.
I just never have Very, verystrange.
So he films it in Spain andright before he goes he has some
work done on the car and he hasthe back seat made into a like
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a pullout double bed, I believeit is, or full bed double bed, I
don't remember so that whenhe's going to film he can go
into his car and can kind ofhang out there.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And if he wants to
take a nap, he can take a nap.
So you know downtime, you knowit's.
Hey, I want to get away fromeverything.
I don't think, where they werefilming that they had all these
star trailers and things thatthey have today when they're
making films.
You, know, Right.
So the terrain in Spain, am Isupposed to say, falls mainly on
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the plane?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
or something.
Yes, that's the other line.
Yeah, falls mainly on the planeor something.
Yes, that's the other line,yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
The terrain in Spain
damaged the vehicle and he
decided to repaint it.
And he ends up picking thatyellow color with the
psychedelic paint job with theswirls and like the floral I
don't want to say floralarrangements but floral designs
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and so forth and he wanted itlooking like a car that was
straight out of the Sgt Pepper'sLonely Hearts Club band.
The maiden voyage with the newpaint was only a couple of days
after the album comes out and hewas going to an album release
party and grabbed a bunch ofpeople and they're in the car
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and no one had seen this.
I mean, no one did anythinglike this to a Rolls Royce Of
course.
You know.
So in 1977, john donates thecar to a museum for a tax credit
.
You know artists weren't makinga ton of money back in the day.
You know, in the 50s, 60s, 70s,you know the 80s, beginning of
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the 80s, they weren't making aton of money.
Even people you know, like JohnLennon, he hadn't performed
live in quite some time.
You know, it was.
You know, it wasn't like he wasout there and always on the road
he wasn't doing tours, so allof that money that wasn't coming
in at all.
So he needs a tax credit.
But the other thing, and thisis my opinion, 1977, the whole
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psychedelic thing is way gone.
Like that limo kind of is aneyesore probably to some people.
Not so much what I think of it,you know, like I think it's
super cool.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, it was dated,
at best.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Great, great word,
for it dated so 20 years after
Lennon got the car and 40 yearsago, which is, you know, kind of
cool.
The math is all.
Even there, the museum that hedonated to sold it for over $2
million.
Now he got a tax creditsomewhere.
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They actually were fightingover the tax credit.
He wanted like $250,000.
The IRS said it was only worth$100,000.
And it went on.
For years after his death theywere still arguing, from 1977,
how much this car really wasworth, and it didn't matter that
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as time went on, in 1985 thatthey sold it for over $2 million
, it was what was it worth in1977.
Ah, crazy, you know.
So it got donated again.
It's part of the Royal BritishColumbia Museum in Canada and
they don't bring it out a tonbecause the yellow that they
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painted it is actually latexhouse paint, what they did not
use automobile paint, and Idon't know the differences.
I'm not going to pretend toknow the differences, but I know
what latex house paint is okay,and they did these designs on
it.
They can't, you know, theycan't like, wipe the car down,
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they can't take a cloth over itand do stuff.
And if something happens, theyhave to use, you know, small
little brushes to fix it, sothey don't have it on display a
whole lot.
But I'll tell you that would bea really cool car to see.
There's a really cool picture,a photo that you know I don't
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know exactly what year it is,but it's John and his oldest son
, julian, when Julian was just alittle kid, and they're like
standing next to it.
And you know I was like man, Iwish my dad owned a Rolls Royce
that was painted like this and Icould have my picture taken
next to it.
But you know that didn't happen.
But I've always been likefascinated with that car and you
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know, here we are.
It's 60 years after he firstbought it.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Very cool.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Very cool, thank you,
thank you.
So in June 7th 1985, 40 yearsago, the movie the Goonies was
released.
Now, jimmy, I've asked you anumber of times about movies.
Have you seen them?
Have you not?
I have not seen the Goonies.
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Oh, my Lord, oh Lord, you havenot seen the Goonies.
Yeah, I don't know why I don'tknow.
I mean I'm dumbfounded.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Was it like Corey
Haim and stuff?
Who was in that?
No, no.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It was not Corey Haim
, it was Corey Feldman, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I was pretty close.
So, one of the.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Corys was in it.
It had Sean Astin.
He was in it.
He was actually the maincharacter and he was in what was
that trilogy that I've neverseen?
Lord of the Rings, oh right,which I've never seen.
He was in that.
His brother was played by ayoung Josh Brolin.
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Again, remember this is 40years ago.
Yeah, corey Feldman was inthere.
It's funny because his name inthe movie is Mouth, and when I
think of Corey Feldman, that'sexactly what I think of him, as
I don't mean that to bedisrespectful, it just is how.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I think of him you
know.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Martha Plimpton was
in it.
John Matuszak, the footballplayer, was in it.
He played like a semi-monster.
I forget what the name of itwas Joe Pantolano.
He has been in a million moviesand when you see him, Isn't he
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the one from Risky Business,guido the Killer Pimp?
That might have been him, jimmy, it was for sure.
So he is in a ton of movies andyou don't necessarily know him,
but you see him like.
If you see him immediately,like, oh, I know who that is.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, he was in the
Matrix too.
He was the guy I'm sorry forspoilers here, but he's the guy
that kind of like was theturncoat in the Matrix.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, I'm sure that
that's not really a spoiler
alert at this point.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay, I think that's
good, but he's in it.
There's a guy, jeff Cohen.
He plays this character, thisboy named Chunk, and it's really
he does a great job in themovie.
Like he plays this character,this boy named chunk, and it's
really he does a great job inthe movie.
Like he plays this obnoxiousI'm starving, I always have to
eat, I have to run my mouth, Ican't keep quiet and he plays
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the part well.
But it was really his only likebig film part, like he just
that wasn't what he ended updoing, but he does a great job
in this movie.
And there's a bunch of otherpeople.
The lady from Throw Mama from aTrain is in it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Gina Davis.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
No, the lady, the old
lady.
Oh right that she died just afew years after this movie came
out and I can't think of hername off the top of my head, but
it's a pretty cool movie it is.
It's a much better movie in themovie theater.
You know how there's some moviesyou see in the theater and
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you're like, wow, this is.
You know, it's pretty cool andone of the things I like about
it is there's a lot of outdoorshots and they're all filmed on
location.
It's in.
Takes place in in oregon.
I struggle saying that word youdid it really well.
You didn't have to say that Inormally say oregon, uh, and
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then people like gone where?
But uh, so it takes place in atown called astoria, which is a
real town and not everything wasfilmed at that place.
But they do a good job.
I like when they do outsideshots and it doesn't look fake,
that it looks kind of cool, itlooks realistic and you know
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this takes place like a seasidetown and you just see things in
the background that make youthink it is a seaside town.
So the premise of this movie isMikey, in his attic they find
like a map and it has to do witha treasure map of you know this
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story that had been going onfor years and passed from
generation to generation aboutone-eyed Willie and you know all
this craziness.
And they end up gettinginvolved with going to find it
and clues and they run into theFratelli gang that is trying to
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do the same thing.
And you know it's just a it's,you know, action-packed, it's a
comedy, it's, it's adventurous.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
You know it's cool
Again.
40 years ago when it came out,it was great watching it on the
big screen.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I'm sorry I missed it
.
You know, I wish I'd seen itback then.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, I can see In
the theater.
I can see by the look on yourface that you're sorry that you
missed it.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'm really, really
regretting it.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Oh my Lord, I need
boots now.
Oh my Lord, I need boots now.
So the one thing about thismovie which I find is funny is
we talked a few episodes agoabout Girls Just Want to have
Fun, which was based, you know,very loosely on the Cyndi Lauper
song Girls Just Want to haveFun, that she didn't want to
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have anything to do with themovie, even though she was in
like one tiny little scene.
I guess she decides, you know,let me change my mind.
Well, for this movie she writesa song called the Goonies Are
Good Enough.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh, I remember that.
Yeah, you do yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
This song peaked at
number 10 on the Billboard Hot
100, july 13th 1985, which isLive Aid Day.
I cannot believe that this songmade the top 100 at all.
It's not one of her bettersongs.
It almost reminds me of GirlsJust Wanna have Fun with some
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different words.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, it's very
generic, you know to me, yeah,
it's very generic.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, it really is,
but it made it to number 10.
I mean, I find that just, youknow, amusing almost 1985 was
weird.
It was, it was, there wasn't alot of good stuff on the radio.
No, I agree with you.
I agree with you.
A lot of good stuff on theradio.
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No, I agree with you.
I agree with you.
So a side story is that in NewYork City they have the New
Year's Eve ball drop every year.
Right, and my brother, whoshall remain nameless, we'll
call him John Doe he worked forthe company that would drop the
ball and every New Year's Eve heworked.
You know, 20 years, I don'tremember exactly how long, but
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usually if you watched the showyou know one of the New Year's
Rockin' Eve shows Dick Clark oryou know before Ryan Seacrest or
whatever you would see theywould show him and some workers
you know before Ryan Seacrest orwhatever you would see, they
would show him and some workersyou know working on the ball or
with a celebrity or whatever.
And one year they were takingpictures beforehand.
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They were doing pre-shots ofCyndi Lauper.
She was going to be like thehost of live in New York City
there, like she would talk tothe crowd, which you don't
normally see.
You only see what they show youon TV.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And they were going
to take these pictures and she's
like, well, I don't want to bein them alone.
And she ended up taking mybrother and one of the guys he
worked with and the publicitypicture is the three of them and
it was published in Jimmy, Idon't remember, but it was
either the Daily News or the NewYork Post, one of those papers.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And they had it in
there, and that was my brother's
big claim, my brother John Doe,by the way, his big claim to
fame.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Does he still have a
copy of the picture?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I asked him recently
and he said he does not.
Oh, that's too bad.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yes, you can look him
up, probably online, if you
knew when it was from.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, I think that
I'm going to try and do that.
See if I can get it.
I think that would be cool tohave.
He actually has a picture.
I have it too.
When Dick Clark passed away thefollowing New Year's Eve, they
had his widow.
His wife came up to where theydropped the ball to see
everything and while she'slooking at stuff he's right
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there with her and he has thispicture with her as well, mrs
Dick Clark.
So some cool stuff.
And again, my brother's name isJohn Doe, in case anyone was
asking.
But I just think that's kind ofcool, this little side note
thing with Cyndi Lauper.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, no, cyndi, you
know, did I ever tell you I
worked with Cyndi Lauper?
It was my first productionassistant job in New York City,
working on a Cyndi Lauper musicvideo.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
How old would you
have been at this time?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I was like 23, I
think Wow, and she was super
sweet and there were all theseneighborhood kids we were
shooting in Queens and it washer old neighborhood and so all
the neighborhood kids would comeover and she would just take
time and play with them and talkto them and everything.
So she's a nice lady.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
That's very cool.
Was it a video that we saw?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
lady.
That's very cool.
Was it a video that we saw?
The song was called Sally'sPigeons.
I actually looked it up, oractually like I bought the VHS
on eBay one time, like 15 yearsago, just so I could see it.
But it's probably maybe thatwas 20 years ago before YouTube,
but I'm sure it's on YouTube,yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Now, maybe if she had
named it Sally's Pigeons are
Good Enough, it could have madeit to the billboard yeah,
probably would have hit number10.
Possibility?
I'm not really sure, but that'sa cool story.
That really is, isn't thatfunny, seriously, isn't it funny
?
I have a Cyndi Lauper story totell and you have a Cyndi Lauper
story to tell that we don'tknow about these stories.
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I think that's super cool.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
She's a real New
Yorker.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
She is, you know.
You said it was in Queens.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I mean so everybody
has a different accent, you know
, depending on where you are.
She definitely has the Queensaccent, there's no joking about
that whatsoever, yep.
So yeah, the Goonies are goodenough, but you know what?
We're all good enough, Jimmy.
We're all good enough.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Jimmy, I can't
believe this has come up again,
but Zach Starkey, the drummer ofthe who, has been fired again.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, that's exactly
what I thought.
It's a very odd story that justwon't go away and the oddest
part about it is, in the bigscheme of things, like does
anybody really care?
But it's the way that it'shappening that makes it a story.
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I like him.
I've seen the who a bunch oftimes with zach starkey.
I like the whole story.
We talked about him, you know,uh, getting his first drum kid
from keith moon, who was theoriginal drummer of the who.
You know, I like it and stuff.
But I'm talking about thegeneral public, is it?
It something big?
I think it's big because of theway that they're going about
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this whole thing.
So he claims he was asked tosay he quit the band this time
and he said I'm not doing that,I would never quit on the who.
I love the who and I'm not surewhat it is, but there always
feels like there's more withthis story and I'm not.
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I don't know why.
And I say that because now Zachis saying he had a good phone
call with Roger Daltrey, thesinger of the who, and he was
not fired, but he was retired.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
What does that mean,
he?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
took a package.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
They've retired him
so he could work on his own solo
stuff.
Yeah, I'm sure we will hearmore about this somewhere down
the road and we will bring it upagain, because this is a story
that just won't go away so who'splaying drums now?
The drummer's going to.
I don't know his name, but he'sroger daltry, solo drummer.
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So when roger is out touringsolo, he's got this guy.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
It's crazy, yeah well
yeah you know, it seems like
it's kind of stealing thethunder of this whole Last who
tour, or maybe it's giving themmore publicity, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That's a good
question.
Only Roger and Pete know, right.
So, hey, jimmy, do you knowwhat time it is?
What time?
Music in my shoes, mailbag time.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Oh Music in my shoes.
Mailbag.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I love that song,
Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I do too.
You know, did we ever tellpeople?
You know I wrote that in aboutwhat 10 minutes you did.
You came in and needed amailbag jingle and I was like,
all right, let me do something.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, I was kind of
watching you and you were doing
what it is that you do.
Kind of watching you and youwere doing what it is that you
do and, like, when you're doingit, you have.
No, I have no idea what the endresult is going to be when
you're doing it.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Did you know that's
how it's going to turn out, sort
of.
Yeah, I'm kind of chasing it,you know, seeing where it goes,
and I have a general idea andyeah.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, I did not not
at all, and I have a general
idea and yeah, yeah, I did notNot at all, None whatsoever.
Nor did I have any idea whatwas going to happen when we did
the Call an Oat song that.
No idea that it was going tocome out like a professional
song.
Oh, that was so professionalWith my unprofessional voice,
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but it was pretty good that youcame up with.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's very
flattering that you call that
professional.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Well, it was, if you
listen to it.
Okay, you know what that couldmake the Billboard Top 10 if
Cyndi Lauper can do the GooniesAre Good Enough.
That song, callin' Oats.
I heard Callin' Oats.
We called Callin' Oats.
I think that's what the name ofthe song is.
We called Call oats.
I think that's what the name ofthe song is.
We called calling oats.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
That can make it.
Let's go ahead and play asnippet of that for the audience
, just so they remember whatwe're talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Okay, that sounds
good Calling oats calling oats.
We just rang up calling oats,calling oats, calling oats, we
just rang up calling oats.
You better try it, you shouldtry it.
We calling notes.
You better try it, you shouldtry it, we try, we call calling
notes.
I posted a video of the remreunion from the 40 watt club on
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social media.
They played at the 40 watt clubon february 28th 2025 and they
did a version of prettyPersuasion.
And I looked the other day andI saw that it had 7,500 views on
the Facebook page for Music inmy Shoes.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And I just thought
that was super cool.
You know that there's that manypeople that have looked at it,
have watched it and you know gotto see what.
Only you know less than 500 ofus, because we were there
together you know got to view inperson that 7,500 people 7,000
more than what was there.
Have seen the video.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
They're a popular
band, though, yeah.
Well, I just thought, but no,it's very cool.
I thought it had something todo with my phone techniques as I
filmed I remember how still youwere standing and you were
really like you were acinematographer.
There's no dancing, there's nofoot tapping, you were just
getting it in frame I can'tdisagree with you, jimmy.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, was exactly
like that, like.
I wanted it as perfect as Icould make it, you know.
So Jenna in Ohio, love this,brilliant.
Danilo in Puerto Rico saysfantastico.
David in Ireland awesome.
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And I'm not sure if I'mpronouncing this next name right
, but Jadwiga in Warsaw, Poland,A wonderful.
Michael Karen in Cleveland Lovethis, and I think it's really
cool that we got a bunch ofpeople from all across the world
all across the globe watch thevideo and want to comment, so
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that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
That says a lot about
REM too.
They have international appeal.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Oh, they really do.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
They do for sure, and
for those people that don't
speak Spanish, fantástico meansfantastic in English.
I took a little Spanish.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I could see it was a
little Whoa.
Oh, jimmy, let's move toepisode 75.
Fantastic, oh my Lord.
All right, I'm back.
Ladies and gentlemen, Iapologize for that, but Jimmy,
just he cracks me up at timesand that was definitely one of
them.
Episode 75, billboard hits ofApril 1975, the Pinball Wizard
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and Tommy.
So a mutual friend we've talkedabout him before, rob.
He calls me after this episodeand he's like hey, the Jimmy
Castor bunch, and that's the onesong that went number 16 on the
April 1975 billboard, the Birthof Boogie, that I had never
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heard before.
And he's like hey, is the albumcover?
A guy in like aSuperman-looking suit.
And I'm like shocked.
I'm like, yeah, it is.
He's like I remember it, mygrandfather had the album.
I'm like your grandfather, likeI was just absolutely floored
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when I had this conversationwith him that he's like, yeah,
my grandfather had that album.
And I just can't believeanybody knew, because I asked
people that I know not a singleperson that I asked myself had
heard of the song, heard of theband, heard of the album.
I never heard nothing, any of it, so he seems to be the only
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person that knows anything aboutit.
But on that episode also thisguy, arthur, writes I have that
Benny Bell LP.
That's when we talk about thesong Shaving Cream on the same
thing, Like you know, that'ssuper cool.
I mean I know the song.
I didn't know anyone that hadthe record, but this guy, arthur
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, says that he had it.
So, commenting on Tommy fromthe same episode, jackie of
Farmingdale, new York, says Sawthe play in the 90s and last
year in New York City.
Too bad, it closed so quickly.
Pete was there the night.
We went just a few seats awayWas great, both times Very cool.
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We went just a few seats awaywas great, both times very cool.
John mark writes when tommy wasreleased on the big screen, I
saw it six times.
Cheryl in chico, california,says we saw the movie back then
and also had the album Very cool.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, yeah, the
amount of people.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Barbara comments
beginning of Tommy is really
good, then after a while it goessouth and I think that was kind
of what I was saying when wewere talking about it.
Walter in Pontiac Illinois whenI hear Pontiac I always think
of Michigan, but Walter inPontiac Illinois, it is
difficult.
The music is enjoyable.
(28:19):
Yeah so you know there's.
You know both ends of thespectrum of of the movie, the
play and so forth, and you knowthe song pinball wizard.
That song is a highlight, aswell as when they're actually
performing it in the movie.
The beginning of the movie Iagree with the one person it was
good.
When it starts off it's likeyeah, and then it just kind of
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goes a different way.
Episode 77, I Should have KnownBetter.
Glass Houses and Damaged Goods.
Tim in Los Angeles postedphotos of himself on our
Facebook page where he's at theactual Billy Joel home and he
does a great job of reenacting,holding a rock, like he's going
to throw it into the glass.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Oh cool yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
And he took it when
the home was for sale so you
could get up and see it and Ijust a great job Like.
If you look at the Facebookpage and you see him, you're
like man, that's just like thealbum.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Right.
Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
So he put a number of
things there, but one of them
he's actually in the house, soyou see him through the glass.
You know a bunch of differentthings.
Sam in Tylertown, mississippi,says Glass Houses is probably
one of his best albums.
A lot of great songs on it.
I agree with that.
I posted a video from thisepisode also.
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Gang of Four with Mike Mills ofREM covering Velvet
Underground's Sweet Jane.
It's had 4,500 views Again.
I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Robert in California,
comments sucks butchering.
Lou Reed's classic and Iresponded with Sweet Jane is a
tough song to cover.
I thought they did a good jobwith it.
It's one of the reasons that Iposted it I thought it was good.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Why do you think it's
tough to cover?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I think that when
you're covering it the way that
the Velvet Underground does it,it's not like a singing song,
but it is.
It's in between.
It's like a tough thing to doand I've seen many bands try to
cover it that haven't done agood job.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, you're either
kind of trying to sound like Lou
Reed talking or you're singingit and making it into something
that it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
And that would really
be a good explanation.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
the best cover of it
is Cowboy Junkies.
You ever heard that one?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I have, but actually
I think Phish has the best cover
of it.
I think, Phish has done a greatjob with it.
The Cowboy Junkies version isgreat.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Well, they made it
different, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, yeah, you know
they cut out like the beginning
of the song and kind of startoff with yeah, like sort of the
bridge, yeah.
It's good.
I like it.
Phish's version is unbelievable.
It's really really good.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I've never heard
anyone.
You know, I don't know, Ididn't realize Phish was good at
covers.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
They actually are.
We can talk about good atcovers.
They actually are.
We can talk about that.
One time they actually covereda whole Velvet Underground album
.
What they did a Talking Headsalbum.
They did the Beatles.
That's just off of the top ofmy head that I can think of.
They would do it on Halloweenand on Halloween shows.
That's what they would do, isthey would play.
That's pretty cool.
You get a chance.
(31:37):
It's very good.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
That's kind of like
what the Yacht Rock Band here in
Atlanta does Yacht Rock Review.
They'll do like the White Albumor Abbey Road or Prince Purple
Rain yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Very cool, very cool.
So, by the way, robert Lou isspelled L-O-U, not L-U-E, sue is
spelled.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
L-O-U, not L-U-E.
Hey, you know, spelling's noteveryone's thing, Jim.
I know, but I don't think theybutchered the cover of the
Velvet Underground's Sweet ChainSue spelled S-U-E in Amityville
, new York.
S-o-u no.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Loved how we ended
the episode with the TV sign-off
.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It was very Ferris
Bueller and that's it for the
mailbag Music in my shoes.
Mailbag.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Let's revisit some
music from the past.
Okay, sam the Sham and thePharaohs.
Okay, sam the Sham and thePharaohs.
Wooly Bully peaks at number twoon the Billboard Hot 100, june
5th 1965.
Maddie told Hattie about athing she saw had two big horns
(32:50):
and a woolly jaw Wooly Bully.
I've never known more than afew words of this song until I
looked up the words for thisepisode.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, I had no idea.
It said that.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I have been singing
this song for however long, just
making words up like I thoughtthat they were making words up
and you didn't know the wordseither.
No, have you ever played this?
I know that you're.
You know bands and so forth.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
No, nothing Never
done, wooly Bully.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I'm surprised.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I've done Monster
Mash, if we're talking like
novelty songs, right, yeah, Idid that at Halloween one time.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
There you go.
This was the number one song of1965.
It's crazy, it is crazy thenumber one song of 1965.
It's crazy, it is crazy thenumber one song of 1965.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
What is that?
The Beatles put out like two orthree albums in 1965, and this
was the number one song.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
This was the number
one song.
Yeah, it was actually banned onsome radio stations because
they thought the song containedcertain illicit lyrics Like what
, what lyrics do you hear?
Because I have listened to thissong specifically trying to
hear whatever they heard, and Idon't hear it.
(34:05):
I mean, can you imagine thatyou can't play Wooly Bully
because it's got bad words in it?
Yeah, that's weird.
Yeah, there's no bad words init, none whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Maybe because the
lyrics are so hard to understand
.
People would kind of it's likea Rorschach test.
You know, when you see theinkblot, oh, people like
hallucinate bad words in it.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
You think it's kind
of like we've talked before when
people don't know what thewords are.
Hold me closer, tiny dancer.
And you know I said it in a wayso that people might say, no,
it's hold me closer, tony Danza.
You know, like you think, maybeit's that that you think you
hear it because people aresaying this and it's crazy.
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So Rick Derringer, formerly ofthe McCoys and a solo artist,
died on May 26, 2025.
When I was like 12 years old, Igot a copy Well, not a copy, I
got the original 45 of theMcCoys' Hang On, sloopy.
You know they start off there.
(35:17):
It's like they're banging on adoor, you know it's like
knocking, you know, as they play.
Sloopy lives in a very bad partof town and everybody, yeah,
tries to put my sloopy down,jimmy.
This is another one of thosesongs that young jim would
listen to over and over again,playing the air guitar, thinking
I'm gonna be a rock and rollstar and learning every word
(35:38):
because I could understand thewords, and singing them and
trying to be raspy when he'sraspy.
I think he was only about 17,rick Derringer, when this song
came out and I would listen tothis over and over and it was
one of the things that I knowthat I talk about being young.
It wasn't a new song, but itwas a new song to me and having
(36:01):
that 45 record and justlistening to it over and over
and over, it peaked at numberone on the Billboard Hot 100 60
years ago, on October 2nd 1965.
I can't believe that.
That's just insane when youthink about it, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I mean, it's an old
song.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I know, but I still
can't believe it's 60 years ago.
So Rick Derringer also sangrock and roll.
Hoochie Coo, probably hissignature song.
That came out in 1973.
That's a great song it is.
You know he actually he was innot to go off on a tangent but
(36:44):
he was in the Edgar Winter Bandand he was in the Johnny Winter
Band.
One was Edgar Winter Group,maybe, and Johnny Winter Band.
They were brothers and heplayed in both of the bands and
one of them released that songin 1970 and then he released his
own solo version in 1973, whichis what everybody thinks of
(37:07):
when they hear rock and rollhoochie coo.
Oh so he produced, like thefirst five or six Weird Al
Yankovic albums.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Like, just how, Like
you know, like, and I just say,
like, how did they meet?
How did it become that they gotthis real tight relationship
that he was with them for thatlong?
You know, I don't know theanswer, but I find it
fascinating.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Maybe they're on the
same record label and they just
kind of hooked them up.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I don't know, it's
just cool, very cool.
So Fine Young Cannibalsreleased Johnny Come Home May
31st 1985.
First single from their late1985 self-titled album.
When the English beat broke upin 84, two bands came out of it
General Public and Fine YoungCannibals.
(38:00):
And General Public had DaveWakeling, ranking Roger, who was
a vocalist, and you had FineYoung Cannibals had two guys
Andy Cox and another guy I thinkhis last name was Steel, and
one was like maybe the bassistand the guitarist, I don't
(38:20):
remember exactly, but they founda singer, roland Gift, whose
vocals are so distinct when thisguy sings and at the time was
just really kind of differentthan everything that was being
played.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, real high kind
of falsetto yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I love his voice,
love his voice and I love the
trumpet throughout the song Kindof gives it like this jazzy
feel.
That is just different.
That's what's being played onthe radio at the time.
Nobody knows the trouble youfeel.
Nobody cares.
The feeling is real.
(38:57):
Johnny, we're sorry, won't youcome on home?
That makes me want to go home,jimmy.
I want Johnny to come on home.
There you go.
Wdre.
Shriek of the Week first weekof June 1990, concrete Blonde
Joey.
Yeah, good song.
1990, concrete Blonde Joey.
Yeah, good song.
(39:17):
Joey, baby, don't get crazy.
Detours fences, I get defensive.
Five months later, the songpeaked at number 19 on Billboard
Hot 100.
Song peaked at number 19 onbillboard hot 100.
(39:43):
I know you've heard it before,so I don't say it anymore.
I just stand by and let youfight your secret war.
These words are just super cool.
I mean, they're just like.
You know.
I'm saying to myself when Ifirst heard it what's this all
about?
I love songs.
We talk about this.
I love songs that sound likethey come from the heart.
That attracts me to songs theperson is going through,
(40:06):
whatever it is that they'resinging about.
Usually it's about somethingnot so good, despair of some
kind.
Despair of some kind, and leadsinger Jeanette Napolitano wrote
the song about her relationshipwith Mark Morland, the
guitarist of Wall of Voodoo.
(40:27):
Wall of Voodoo did Mexicanradio I think that was 83-ish,
82, 83, somewhere around there,and he was battling alcoholism
and that's what the song isabout.
And she had the music and shewouldn't write the words because
it was so difficult for her towant to even put it out there.
(40:49):
And wrote the words rightbefore they finally went to
record it went to record it and,though I used to wonder why I
used to cry till I was dry,still, sometimes I get a strange
pain inside.
Oh, joey, if you're hurting, soam I.
I mean, the words areunbelievable.
(41:09):
What a great song, jimmy.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Did you ever see them
live?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
I saw them.
I don't know if that was 90.
I mean, if they had a song thatwas near the top 10 of the
billboard charts, then it musthave been before then, Because I
saw them at the Uptown Loungein Athens, which held about, you
know, 150 people.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Was it for this album
, because they had a bunch of
albums out beforehand?
Yeah, I think it was one of the.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
It must have been one
of the earlier ones, you know,
maybe it was 88 or 89.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Gotcha, they were
fantastic.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Were they.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, she's a great
singer.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I wish that I could
have seen them, but you know
what else I wish.
I wish right now it was Minutewith Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
It's time for Minute
with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy, minute withJimmy.
Okay, I wanted to talk aboutthis band that my brother, john
the show, knows from the LondonCalling thing called the Ginnels
.
They are a band from Ireland,not tremendously popular, but
John somehow found them, I think, on Spotify.
(42:16):
You know, you kind of go toartists and then related artists
or whatever he was doing and,uh, they have an album that came
out this year called thepicturesque.
Uh, it's not my favorite albumof theirs, though.
My favorite album of theirs wasfrom 2014, called a country
life, and the song you need tolook up is called Not what you
Think, and Ginnles isG-I-N-N-E-L-S.
(42:38):
Ginnles are it's an Irish termfor the space, the alleyways
between houses.
So, that's what they call them.
You know different cultures andpeople have different ways of
talking about those places, butthis is a really, really fun
song.
You know it's kind of poppy,but it's got that Irish bent to
(43:02):
it and you should look it up.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
I will definitely
give it a listen to.
It does sound kind of cool.
Yeah, I'm looking forward tothat, jimmy.
Thank you for that Minute withJimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
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That's it for episode 81 ofMusic in my Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of
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Arcade 160 Studios located righthere in Atlanta, georgia, and
Vic Thrill for our podcast music.
This is Jim Boge, and I hopeyou learned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
Thank you.