June 8, 2025 • 29 mins
Mom's radio was always on—at dinner, while cleaning, everywhere—sparking a lifelong love for music that shaped this podcast and our musical journeys. Music becomes a bridge between generations, creating shared experiences that last a lifetime.
• Exploring Music Midtown 2005—a three-day festival featuring six stages
• Lou Reed's performance with amp troubles and orchestral direction of his band
• The White Stripes creating an incredible sound with just two musicians
• Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers delivering a greatest hits show in the rain
• Devo's energetic performance in their iconic yellow suits
• David Lowery's intimate 05/30/2025 Asheville, NC show featuring vulnerable, introspective material from his new album "Fathers, Sons and Brothers"
• Music history highlights including R.E.M.'s "Life and How to Live It" backstory and a-ha's groundbreaking "Take on Me" video
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Bogeand you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 82.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
So, jimmy, I'm broadcastingfrom Levittown, new York.
(00:52):
You're at the home studioArcade 160 Studios in Atlanta,
georgia, today.
Yes, sir.
So I want to start the show offby wishing my mom a happy 80th
birthday.
She really helped my love ofmusic.
When I was a little kid welistened to the radio all the
time, and both my parents Ilearned a lot about music.
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My dad more rock and roll, butmy mom a lot of the 50s and the
60s, the hits, all of that.
You know, I really learned fromher radio always on.
If we were cleaning on theweekends, the radio was on.
If we were eating dinner, theradio was on.
I mean, it was non-stop here.
And she still goes to see thesecover bands that do 50s, 60s,
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70s, 80s bands.
And when she gets back fromseeing one of these shows she
calls me up to tell me what theyplayed, were they good, has she
seen them before?
And it's almost like me talkingto you on music in my shoes.
It's her talking to me, tellingme about her experience, and
(02:03):
it's really cool she needs apodcast.
You know what?
I think she'd be really good atit.
She's been a huge influence onme and this one goes out to you,
mom.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, dear mom.
(02:25):
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, mom.
Enjoy it.
So, jimmy, four episodes ago Ispoke about the Music Midtown
1995 Festival in Atlanta.
Today I wanted to highlight theMusic midtown 2005, 10 years
(02:47):
later.
It was held june 10th to the12th and I'm thinking it was
over by the atlantic civiccenter by then.
Did you go to that one?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
yeah, I did.
Uh, was that the one that devoplayed at?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
that is the one and that was over by the civic
center, correct?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
it was.
It was where shaky knees endedup being so it covered that
whole property of central parkand down to the civic center
parking lot area yeah, what wasthat um that building?
Sidetrack or something oh, thatsounds familiar.
Yeah, sidetrack, uh-huh, ascience museum type thing.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, that was right over there.
So when we talked about 1995the three-day ticket was 25
dollars.
By 2005 it was 75 dollars, soit had gone up considerably.
But that's still cheaper thanbuying a ticket to one band
today.
You know in 2020, 2025, it'sreally expensive.
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I remember it raining a lotthat weekend.
I think there was like atropical storm or a hurricane,
Like we were getting some of theremnants of it coming, you know
the Atlanta way, and it kind ofcaused me to avoid going to all
the bands I wanted to see.
I just didn't want to stand outin the rain all day, so I
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missed a bunch of them, I'll behonest.
But I did see Lou Reed and Iremember his amp going out and
he stopped playing and theyquickly got another amp and they
put it up on the stage and youknow, he got going and he seemed
to be directing the other bandmembers, kind of like a
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conductor of an orchestra.
So I thought that was kind ofcool uh-huh of you know being
able to do that and they'rethey're following his lead and I
had not really seen anythinglike that.
You know, at that point ingoing to shows, he played White
Light, white Heat, he playedSweet Jane, but the audience
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never really seemed to be intoit.
There was a ton of people therebut they just seemed like they
were expecting something else orI don't know know.
I'm not sure what it was, but Ithought it was great and I
enjoyed seeing him.
So the same night I saw thewhite stripes, who had a huge
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crowd.
It was body to body.
So if someone 10 feet from youmoved, you moved also.
And what they're able to dowith two musicians is absolutely
incredible.
The hardest button to buttonblack math ball and biscuit
seven nation army, and I justdon't know what to do with
(05:41):
myself.
Jimmy, did you know that's aBurt Bacharach cover?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's like the third or fourth time on Music in my
Shoes that his name has come upand I got to be honest with you.
I never thought that that wouldhappen, but it has, it has.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, he's an unofficial hero of memes.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I never would have guessed that, but you are
correct.
Yeah know, hero of mims.
I never would have guessed that, but you were correct.
Yeah, dusty springfieldreleased a version in 1964 and
it went to number three on theuk charts but did not chart in
america.
And then dion warwick, who Ialways struggle with her name
you've done great today.
(06:22):
Orchestra warwick yes, but shealways seems to be connected to
Burt Bacharach.
She released a version in 1966,and it went to number 26 on
Billboard Hot 100.
And then the White Stripes didit and I got to hear it live at
Music Midtown in 2005.
2005.
(06:43):
Just really, really, reallygood.
Just garage rock, it's fun,just really fun.
I miss them.
Just really enjoyed the show.
I saw Robert Randolph and theFamily Band and I have seen
Robert Randolph and the FamilyBand, I'd say, at least four
(07:04):
times at Music Midtown, you know, through the different years.
And he plays pedal steel andit's kind of like a mix of rock,
blues, funk, spiritual and it'sall mixed into one and it's
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good.
I mean, the first time I sawhim I didn't know who he was,
but I watched it because he wasplaying before another band I
wanted to see.
But then it became every time Iwent to Music Midtown that I
would want to see him.
They do a cover of Jimi HendrixVoodoo Child Slight Return.
That's absolutely out of thisworld.
(07:46):
Love it, it is so good.
You almost think that Jimi'sthere playing.
So let's continue with Keen.
And I saw them play their onlyhits somewhere, only we Know.
I really liked that song.
So I was excited to see themplay that song.
I caught parts of them and JohnFogerty the Killers and they
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were still touring from the HotFuss album with all their hits
that they had.
But I did take in the entireTom Petty and the Heartbreakers
show and by this time the rainwas coming down pretty good.
It would kind of lighten up,but it was at least always misty
.
It was always annoying, I guesswould be the real good word to
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use for it.
They open up with Listen to HerHeart, you Don't Know how it
Feels.
It was a greatest hit showsprinkled with some covers Free
Fallin', don't Do Me Like that,mary Jane's Last Dance, the
Travelin' Wilburys' Handle WithCare, which was awesome.
I Won't Back Down.
(08:53):
Refugee Runnin, refugee,running down a dream, and that's
just the name.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Some of them yeah, you can't complain about that no
, not at all.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And, like I said, there was, you know, a lot of
hits and he finished up with bobdylan's rainy day women, number
12 and 35, which wasappropriate for the weather that
we were having.
Chuck, chuck Berry's Carol andBo Diddley's Mona.
Hey Bo Diddley, hey Bo Diddleyis just a freaking great rock
(09:22):
and roll song from the earlydays that you know.
It's just fun to listen to.
It's got a great beat.
Carol is a song that I thinkevery band in rock and roll
history at some point or anotherhas played.
It is one of those songs thatyou learn in the beginning.
The Beatles have played it, theRolling Stones have played it,
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the Kinks have played it, tomPetty was playing it uh, just so
many bands.
It's a simple song but it's agreat Chuck Berry song and
everybody loved.
Chuck Devo closed out theweekend on the 99X stage.
My brother and I got prettyclose to the right side of the
stage and the first five songswere absolutely awesome.
(10:08):
That's Good, girl.
You Want Whip it Satisfaction.
The Rolling Stones coverUncontrollable urge.
So, jimmy, you said, was thatthe Music Midtown with Devo?
I'm assuming that you were atDevo.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I was at Devo.
I'm thinking I only went thatday, so that was Sunday, right.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That is correct.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, I think I only went on Sunday and, uh, devo was
was amazing.
I'd never seen them before, soI'd always been a big fan of
them and that was a great show,you know, and they were probably
just as good and the same asthey were 25 years earlier yeah,
you know, at one point they hadthose yellow suits on that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
They started ripping off like they've been doing
since the, you know, late 70s,and I still was digging it.
I was this is great, I loved it.
They finished up with gates ofsteel freedom of choice.
Beautiful world uh, freedom ofchoice is my favorite devo song,
absolutely loved that song cameout in 1980, in the fall of
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1980.
And then Beautiful World.
I think everybody knows itbecause it's been on commercials
, multiple commercials.
And I just believe everyoneknows it because it's a
beautiful world we live in.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
We have freedom of choice.
It's like a dog that has twobones he licks the one, he licks
the other.
He goes in circles.
That's freedom of choice.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I like your explanation.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
That was pretty good, jeremy, it's going to come back
around.
Jim, it's going to come backaround, just you wait.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I believe you, I do so.
Other bands that playedincluded Interpol, counting
Crows, keith Urban she WantsRevenge Crows, keith Urban, she
Wants Revenge.
Black Eyed Peas, the Pixies,houdini, biz, markie MC Light,
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dougie Fresh Slick, rick, publicEnemy, joan Jett, def Leppard
and Kid Rock.
Now, this is just a few of theother bands.
The problem is that there weresix stages, so at any point in
time there could be six bandsyou wanted to see and they were
all on the stage at the sametime.
So you really had to pick andchoose, whereas if you go to a
festival that only has threestages, you don't have to choose
(12:29):
as much.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You understand what I'm saying Jimmy Right, and I
don't know if they were doingthat back then, but they kind of
ping pong them nowadays.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
so they'll have four stages, but only two are going
at a time because they'resetting up for the next one no,
they had them all going and thatwas the problem is that you
really just had to pick that oneband that you wanted to see now
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Another band that you didn't mention was, uh, the
kaiser chiefs.
They were fantastic.
Oh really, they played on thesmall stage over there.
If you're looking at the devostage, they played on the little
one over to the left of that oh, very nice yeah, they were
really fun band I predict a riot.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yes, yes, that's right.
So that was the last musicmidtown until 2011.
They took a hiatus and it wasalso the last time that I went
to Music Midtown.
Yes, so, jimmy, I drove up toAsheville, north Carolina, on
Friday last Friday to see DavidLowery of Camper, van Beethoven
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and Cracker, and I went to seehim at the Great Eagle Music
Hall you know a famous littlesmall club there in Asheville
and he was promoting his newrelease, fathers, sons and
Brothers 28 song three vinyl set, and it's truly an
introspective look at himselffrom the past and he honors
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those who have been part of hisstory and he tackles the good,
the bad and the ugly and I gotto be honest with you, jimmy, he
really tackles it and he's notafraid to talk about anything,
including things that he maybedidn't make the best choices
with, and I really think ittakes a lot to do something like
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that and it's one to put it ona record.
But now you're in front of anaudience and you're singing
these songs and you're talkingbetween the songs and describing
them.
I just admired it.
It just really was somethingthat was you get to see the
(14:36):
inner sanctum of somebody.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, yeah, he seems like kind of a private person.
So for him to open up like thatit's kind of a big deal.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, you know.
And he says I wanted to singthe songs of the unsung
celebrate friends and family, ofthe unsung celebrate friends
and family, make amends andapologize where necessary.
And I just think that again, Ican't say it enough.
It takes a lot to do that.
Some of my favorites from thealbum that he played Plaza de
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Toros, super Bloom, disneylandJail how Does your Sister Roller
Skate?
Let it Roll Down that Hill, itDon't Last Long.
And then my favorite song onthe album is Mexican Chickens,
which he didn't play.
It's a fantastic song.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It sounds delicious.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's a great song.
It really kind of talks about acertain part of his life and
it's one of those songs that Italk about where you know
someone's singing it from theheart and it just draws me into
it.
He was very personable.
Like I said, he had storiesabout each song.
I just find it interesting whenyou know the backstories and
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you're not guessing and comingup with what you think the song
is about.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
It was really cool.
I really enjoyed it and had agreat time with it, very cool.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Hey, this is david lowry, from cracker and to
atlanta, and I know this is notmusic related, but I'd be amiss
if I didn't kind of mention thischapter in my life.
I had never been to atlantabefore I transferred with a job
that I was working at, and myfirst time to Atlanta was
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getting in a car on a Saturdaymorning and driving down.
And what I didn't know becauseyou didn't have GPS then is that
there was this big road thatwent around Atlanta called 285,
and it's a circle.
Oh, my gosh, okay, and that youcan that you can keep driving,
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and driving, and driving, and ifyou miss your exit you can't
tell, because one minute you'regoing north, next you're like
east and or west and south, andto someone who had never been
there it was absolutelyconfusing, very so.
I don't remember how long thetrip took, but I think I think,
like the last you 10 miles I hadto go ended up being like three
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hours because I was drivingaround in circles, and it
reminds me of a story with theAtlanta Braves.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Okay, I was wondering if you knew about this.
Pascual Perez you can tell thestory.
Oh.
So Pascual Perez was a pitcherfor the Braves and he was due to
start as the pitcher this onenight and he knew that, hey, the
stadium is right off thehighway.
I mean, you can literally seethe old Braves stadium from the
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75-85 that runs right throughdowntown.
So he just thought, ok, I'llget on the highway, I'll drive
down to the stadium.
Well, he gets on 285, thecircle that doesn't go past the
stadium, it goes around theoutskirts of the city and he
drives around the city for likethree hours, like you did, and
he misses his whole startingpitching night.
They had to pitch somebody else.
They called him perimeter perezfrom then on did they really?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
yeah, I feel bad for him because I honestly know what
it's all about.
Again, there was no gps, therewas nothing like that, and I, I
didn't know right, I didn't knowwhat, I didn't know I will tell
you a little story.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Uh, that might commiserate a little bit.
So the first time I ever wentto new york city, my band was
playing at this thing called theCMJ new music showcase in like
1990.
And um, we drove a stationwagon from Athens, georgia, the
violets drove to New York cityand we get into New York and I
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can't remember where, how wecame in.
I'm guessing it was like theHolland tunnel or something, and
I just kind of kept going.
And then I saw this thing thatsaid Manhattan bridge and I'm
like well, we want to go toManhattan.
So I got on the Manhattanbridge that takes you to
Brooklyn, and we're drivingaround Brooklyn, we're like,
where, where is, you know, 14thstreet and six Avenue?
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And they're like you need to goto Manhattan.
So it was.
It was similar.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, and it's funny because I know New York Well.
I still do and still can getaround with no problem.
I've also learned how to drivetwo 85.
So, jimmy, I mentioned I'm uphere in Levittown where I grew
up, and you know, unfortunatelyso many places are closing and
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literally probably 10 housesdown from where my mom lives, a
place called Flowers by Phil 65years of business just closed
last week and now this is aplace that, starting with my
junior prom, that's where Iwould get like the corsage for
my prom, junior prom date, andthen my senior prom and birthday
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things or Mother's Day stufffrom my mom or just different
things throughout the years.
And it's just kind of sad tosee 65 years in business and
last week it's over.
That's sad.
Yeah, last night I went toDominico's here in Levittown and
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it's been in business for 58years and at the end of the
month it's closing and I wentlast night and there was a wait
to get in.
It was absolutely packed withpeople because everybody wants
to go and experience it for onelast time.
The food is that good.
But it's not just the food,it's the staff that's been there
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forever, the owners that havealways owned it, it's the whole
experience and that's what makesit Dominico's, that's what
makes it what it is.
And you know I have been goingthere, you know, since I left
New York.
Every time I go back up hereand I go with my friends, the
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Dominico's, we always take apicture in front of the
restaurant.
And last night was kind ofbittersweet because I took a
picture with one of my friends,knowing that that's probably the
last time, and posted it onFacebook.
And so many people arecommenting, but so many people I
know are doing the same thing.
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I made the pilgrimage to getthat last italian food and it
was good, it really was good.
So let's move on.
Let's revisit some more greatmusic from the past.
Gonna start off with gratefuldead, working man's dead,
released on june 14th 1970.
First of two albums released inuh 70, the other being American
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Beauty, came out in Novemberand both albums go together.
They were recorded totallyseparately, but you think that
they go together and a lot oftimes I think if you say a song,
you're not sure if it's onWorking Man's Dead or if it's on
American Beauty, and it's lesspsychedelic, it's more straight
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up rock, folk, country rock thatthey started to become known
for.
And it's got some classicsUncle John's Band, high Time,
dire Wolf, new Speedway, boogie,which is about the Altamont
1969 experience that we'vetalked about, cumberland Blues,
casey Jones, switchman, sleeping.
(22:45):
Train 102 is on the wrong trackand headed for you Great
introductory album to theGrateful Dead, if you're
interested in it.
And you know what, jimmy?
I'm looking at my watch andit's time for Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
(23:06):
Minute with Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Minute with Jimmy Okay, going back to 1985, right
around now, june 10th Life andhow to Live it from the Fables
of the Reconstruction album, andit's a true story about a guy
that lived in a house in athens,georgia, and he built a wall in
the middle of his house and hemade two apartments that had
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completely different clothes,and one had a tv, one had a
radio, different books,different food, everything was
different, and he would live onone side for a while and then
he'd get tired of it and hewould live on the other side for
a while and he just bouncedback and forth living on these
two sides.
Well, eventually he passed awayand somebody took the house
(23:50):
over and was clearing it out andthey found this closet stacked
with books that he had writtencalled life and how to live it.
He'd never sold one, he had itall published and bound and they
just sat in his closet and remwrote a song about him I did not
know that.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I just learned something new.
That is crazy.
The book is it something thatyou can go out and buy what?
What ended up happening with it?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Well, I was just looking on eBay.
You can buy one now for $1,500.
Oh wow, it's rare for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Wow, very good minute with Jimmy.
My name is Jimmy, so youmentioned that was from June
10th of 1985.
We're going to go up a week toJune 17th 1985.
Aha, take On Me was releasedand it entered the Billboard Hot
100 on July 13th and peaked atnumber one on October 19th.
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It took three months from thetime it entered till it hit
number one, and it was onlynumber one for one week.
It actually was the LIRScreamer of the Week the third
week of August.
So this is one of the few timesthat LIR didn't have the
Screamer before it got into theBillboard Hot 100.
(25:14):
And I think it's one of thefirst super cool videos on MTV.
Yeah, it was Up until then.
I think Thriller was probablythe most innovative MTV video
and then Take On Me came out andit's right up there.
I mean, I just think it'sfantastic.
We're talking away.
I don't know what I'm to say.
(25:36):
I'll say it anyway.
They were Norwegian and I thinkthat maybe they had the words
and then they just literallytranslated into English or
something, because when you lookat the words it's not something
you know.
Someone wouldn't talk that way,but yet we all sing the song
the way that it is and love itthat way.
(25:57):
It was like drawings comingalive in the video and a girl
she's reading a black and whitecomic book and it's got
motorcycle racing with thesidecars like that old school
motorcycle racing that they usedto do, and there's a drawing of
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a hand that comes out of thecomic book and it grabs the
girl's hand and pulls her intothe story and you know, the rest
is just video.
History on on the way that theydid everything and it won a
bunch of mtv video awards and itwas just super cool yeah, it's
like it still is the person'slooking in the mirror and their
reflection is a drawing right,you know yes but they're in live
(26:42):
action.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, so it's.
It was a really innovative useof uh animation yeah, and that's
40 years ago.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
They did that.
I mean, it was blowing awayeverything that had come out at
that time.
Yeah, so the singer of the band, morton harkett, announced on
june 4th 2025 that he has parkParkinson's disease and that
he's actually had to have twobrain surgeries that he had in
2024.
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So our thoughts go out to him.
So on June 4th 1990, steveBader's died in Paris, and I
know many of you are now sayingwho Steve was in the dead Boys
from 1975 to 1979, and Lords ofthe New Church from 1981 to 1989
(27:31):
.
The Lords' first album in 1982had the songs Open your Eyes and
Russian Roulette, a songinfluenced by the 1979 film
Apocalypse Now and starts offwith the sounds of the
helicopter blades just like themovie, and I did not mention
that when we talked aboutApocalypse Now sometime last
(27:53):
year.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Stiv was on a motorbike when a car hit him,
knocked him to the ground andyou know, did he go to the
hospital?
Did he not go to the hospital?
Was he standing on the sidewalk?
Did he get hit while on amotorbike?
Was it a taxi?
Was it a car?
It doesn't.
It's never clear.
Everybody has a different storyof what happened.
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But we all know is that hedidn't think it was serious.
He ended up back at hisapartment and he died from a
brain injury in his sleep.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yes, so you can reach us atmusicinmyshoes at gmailcom.
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Get them set up on it.
That's it for episode 82 ofMusic in my Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of
Arcade 160 Studios located inAtlanta, georgia, and Vic Thrill
, for our podcast music.
This is Jim Boge and I've beencoming to you from Levittown,
(29:00):
new York.
I hope you learned somethingnew or remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
Thank you.
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Bogeand you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 82.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
So, jimmy, I'm broadcastingfrom Levittown, new York.
(00:52):
You're at the home studioArcade 160 Studios in Atlanta,
georgia, today.
Yes, sir.
So I want to start the show offby wishing my mom a happy 80th
birthday.
She really helped my love ofmusic.
When I was a little kid welistened to the radio all the
time, and both my parents Ilearned a lot about music.
(01:16):
My dad more rock and roll, butmy mom a lot of the 50s and the
60s, the hits, all of that.
You know, I really learned fromher radio always on.
If we were cleaning on theweekends, the radio was on.
If we were eating dinner, theradio was on.
I mean, it was non-stop here.
And she still goes to see thesecover bands that do 50s, 60s,
(01:41):
70s, 80s bands.
And when she gets back fromseeing one of these shows she
calls me up to tell me what theyplayed, were they good, has she
seen them before?
And it's almost like me talkingto you on music in my shoes.
It's her talking to me, tellingme about her experience, and
(02:03):
it's really cool she needs apodcast.
You know what?
I think she'd be really good atit.
She's been a huge influence onme and this one goes out to you,
mom.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, dear mom.
(02:25):
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, mom.
Enjoy it.
So, jimmy, four episodes ago Ispoke about the Music Midtown
1995 Festival in Atlanta.
Today I wanted to highlight theMusic midtown 2005, 10 years
(02:47):
later.
It was held june 10th to the12th and I'm thinking it was
over by the atlantic civiccenter by then.
Did you go to that one?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
yeah, I did.
Uh, was that the one that devoplayed at?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
that is the one and that was over by the civic
center, correct?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
it was.
It was where shaky knees endedup being so it covered that
whole property of central parkand down to the civic center
parking lot area yeah, what wasthat um that building?
Sidetrack or something oh, thatsounds familiar.
Yeah, sidetrack, uh-huh, ascience museum type thing.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, that was right over there.
So when we talked about 1995the three-day ticket was 25
dollars.
By 2005 it was 75 dollars, soit had gone up considerably.
But that's still cheaper thanbuying a ticket to one band
today.
You know in 2020, 2025, it'sreally expensive.
(03:46):
I remember it raining a lotthat weekend.
I think there was like atropical storm or a hurricane,
Like we were getting some of theremnants of it coming, you know
the Atlanta way, and it kind ofcaused me to avoid going to all
the bands I wanted to see.
I just didn't want to stand outin the rain all day, so I
(04:09):
missed a bunch of them, I'll behonest.
But I did see Lou Reed and Iremember his amp going out and
he stopped playing and theyquickly got another amp and they
put it up on the stage and youknow, he got going and he seemed
to be directing the other bandmembers, kind of like a
(04:32):
conductor of an orchestra.
So I thought that was kind ofcool uh-huh of you know being
able to do that and they'rethey're following his lead and I
had not really seen anythinglike that.
You know, at that point ingoing to shows, he played White
Light, white Heat, he playedSweet Jane, but the audience
(04:56):
never really seemed to be intoit.
There was a ton of people therebut they just seemed like they
were expecting something else orI don't know know.
I'm not sure what it was, but Ithought it was great and I
enjoyed seeing him.
So the same night I saw thewhite stripes, who had a huge
(05:17):
crowd.
It was body to body.
So if someone 10 feet from youmoved, you moved also.
And what they're able to dowith two musicians is absolutely
incredible.
The hardest button to buttonblack math ball and biscuit
seven nation army, and I justdon't know what to do with
(05:41):
myself.
Jimmy, did you know that's aBurt Bacharach cover?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's like the third or fourth time on Music in my
Shoes that his name has come upand I got to be honest with you.
I never thought that that wouldhappen, but it has, it has.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, he's an unofficial hero of memes.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I never would have guessed that, but you are
correct.
Yeah know, hero of mims.
I never would have guessed that, but you were correct.
Yeah, dusty springfieldreleased a version in 1964 and
it went to number three on theuk charts but did not chart in
america.
And then dion warwick, who Ialways struggle with her name
you've done great today.
(06:22):
Orchestra warwick yes, but shealways seems to be connected to
Burt Bacharach.
She released a version in 1966,and it went to number 26 on
Billboard Hot 100.
And then the White Stripes didit and I got to hear it live at
Music Midtown in 2005.
2005.
(06:43):
Just really, really, reallygood.
Just garage rock, it's fun,just really fun.
I miss them.
Just really enjoyed the show.
I saw Robert Randolph and theFamily Band and I have seen
Robert Randolph and the FamilyBand, I'd say, at least four
(07:04):
times at Music Midtown, you know, through the different years.
And he plays pedal steel andit's kind of like a mix of rock,
blues, funk, spiritual and it'sall mixed into one and it's
(07:24):
good.
I mean, the first time I sawhim I didn't know who he was,
but I watched it because he wasplaying before another band I
wanted to see.
But then it became every time Iwent to Music Midtown that I
would want to see him.
They do a cover of Jimi HendrixVoodoo Child Slight Return.
That's absolutely out of thisworld.
(07:46):
Love it, it is so good.
You almost think that Jimi'sthere playing.
So let's continue with Keen.
And I saw them play their onlyhits somewhere, only we Know.
I really liked that song.
So I was excited to see themplay that song.
I caught parts of them and JohnFogerty the Killers and they
(08:10):
were still touring from the HotFuss album with all their hits
that they had.
But I did take in the entireTom Petty and the Heartbreakers
show and by this time the rainwas coming down pretty good.
It would kind of lighten up,but it was at least always misty
.
It was always annoying, I guesswould be the real good word to
(08:31):
use for it.
They open up with Listen to HerHeart, you Don't Know how it
Feels.
It was a greatest hit showsprinkled with some covers Free
Fallin', don't Do Me Like that,mary Jane's Last Dance, the
Travelin' Wilburys' Handle WithCare, which was awesome.
I Won't Back Down.
(08:53):
Refugee Runnin, refugee,running down a dream, and that's
just the name.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Some of them yeah, you can't complain about that no
, not at all.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And, like I said, there was, you know, a lot of
hits and he finished up with bobdylan's rainy day women, number
12 and 35, which wasappropriate for the weather that
we were having.
Chuck, chuck Berry's Carol andBo Diddley's Mona.
Hey Bo Diddley, hey Bo Diddleyis just a freaking great rock
(09:22):
and roll song from the earlydays that you know.
It's just fun to listen to.
It's got a great beat.
Carol is a song that I thinkevery band in rock and roll
history at some point or anotherhas played.
It is one of those songs thatyou learn in the beginning.
The Beatles have played it, theRolling Stones have played it,
(09:45):
the Kinks have played it, tomPetty was playing it uh, just so
many bands.
It's a simple song but it's agreat Chuck Berry song and
everybody loved.
Chuck Devo closed out theweekend on the 99X stage.
My brother and I got prettyclose to the right side of the
stage and the first five songswere absolutely awesome.
(10:08):
That's Good, girl.
You Want Whip it Satisfaction.
The Rolling Stones coverUncontrollable urge.
So, jimmy, you said, was thatthe Music Midtown with Devo?
I'm assuming that you were atDevo.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I was at Devo.
I'm thinking I only went thatday, so that was Sunday, right.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That is correct.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, I think I only went on Sunday and, uh, devo was
was amazing.
I'd never seen them before, soI'd always been a big fan of
them and that was a great show,you know, and they were probably
just as good and the same asthey were 25 years earlier yeah,
you know, at one point they hadthose yellow suits on that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
They started ripping off like they've been doing
since the, you know, late 70s,and I still was digging it.
I was this is great, I loved it.
They finished up with gates ofsteel freedom of choice.
Beautiful world uh, freedom ofchoice is my favorite devo song,
absolutely loved that song cameout in 1980, in the fall of
(11:12):
1980.
And then Beautiful World.
I think everybody knows itbecause it's been on commercials
, multiple commercials.
And I just believe everyoneknows it because it's a
beautiful world we live in.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
We have freedom of choice.
It's like a dog that has twobones he licks the one, he licks
the other.
He goes in circles.
That's freedom of choice.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I like your explanation.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
That was pretty good, jeremy, it's going to come back
around.
Jim, it's going to come backaround, just you wait.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I believe you, I do so.
Other bands that playedincluded Interpol, counting
Crows, keith Urban she WantsRevenge Crows, keith Urban, she
Wants Revenge.
Black Eyed Peas, the Pixies,houdini, biz, markie MC Light,
(12:09):
dougie Fresh Slick, rick, publicEnemy, joan Jett, def Leppard
and Kid Rock.
Now, this is just a few of theother bands.
The problem is that there weresix stages, so at any point in
time there could be six bandsyou wanted to see and they were
all on the stage at the sametime.
So you really had to pick andchoose, whereas if you go to a
festival that only has threestages, you don't have to choose
(12:29):
as much.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You understand what I'm saying Jimmy Right, and I
don't know if they were doingthat back then, but they kind of
ping pong them nowadays.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
so they'll have four stages, but only two are going
at a time because they'resetting up for the next one no,
they had them all going and thatwas the problem is that you
really just had to pick that oneband that you wanted to see now
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Another band that you didn't mention was, uh, the
kaiser chiefs.
They were fantastic.
Oh really, they played on thesmall stage over there.
If you're looking at the devostage, they played on the little
one over to the left of that oh, very nice yeah, they were
really fun band I predict a riot.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yes, yes, that's right.
So that was the last musicmidtown until 2011.
They took a hiatus and it wasalso the last time that I went
to Music Midtown.
Yes, so, jimmy, I drove up toAsheville, north Carolina, on
Friday last Friday to see DavidLowery of Camper, van Beethoven
(13:30):
and Cracker, and I went to seehim at the Great Eagle Music
Hall you know a famous littlesmall club there in Asheville
and he was promoting his newrelease, fathers, sons and
Brothers 28 song three vinyl set, and it's truly an
introspective look at himselffrom the past and he honors
(13:54):
those who have been part of hisstory and he tackles the good,
the bad and the ugly and I gotto be honest with you, jimmy, he
really tackles it and he's notafraid to talk about anything,
including things that he maybedidn't make the best choices
with, and I really think ittakes a lot to do something like
(14:16):
that and it's one to put it ona record.
But now you're in front of anaudience and you're singing
these songs and you're talkingbetween the songs and describing
them.
I just admired it.
It just really was somethingthat was you get to see the
(14:36):
inner sanctum of somebody.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, yeah, he seems like kind of a private person.
So for him to open up like thatit's kind of a big deal.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, you know.
And he says I wanted to singthe songs of the unsung
celebrate friends and family, ofthe unsung celebrate friends
and family, make amends andapologize where necessary.
And I just think that again, Ican't say it enough.
It takes a lot to do that.
Some of my favorites from thealbum that he played Plaza de
(15:11):
Toros, super Bloom, disneylandJail how Does your Sister Roller
Skate?
Let it Roll Down that Hill, itDon't Last Long.
And then my favorite song onthe album is Mexican Chickens,
which he didn't play.
It's a fantastic song.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It sounds delicious.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's a great song.
It really kind of talks about acertain part of his life and
it's one of those songs that Italk about where you know
someone's singing it from theheart and it just draws me into
it.
He was very personable.
Like I said, he had storiesabout each song.
I just find it interesting whenyou know the backstories and
(15:50):
you're not guessing and comingup with what you think the song
is about.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
It was really cool.
I really enjoyed it and had agreat time with it, very cool.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Hey, this is david lowry, from cracker and to
atlanta, and I know this is notmusic related, but I'd be amiss
if I didn't kind of mention thischapter in my life.
I had never been to atlantabefore I transferred with a job
that I was working at, and myfirst time to Atlanta was
(16:37):
getting in a car on a Saturdaymorning and driving down.
And what I didn't know becauseyou didn't have GPS then is that
there was this big road thatwent around Atlanta called 285,
and it's a circle.
Oh, my gosh, okay, and that youcan that you can keep driving,
(16:59):
and driving, and driving, and ifyou miss your exit you can't
tell, because one minute you'regoing north, next you're like
east and or west and south, andto someone who had never been
there it was absolutelyconfusing, very so.
I don't remember how long thetrip took, but I think I think,
like the last you 10 miles I hadto go ended up being like three
(17:23):
hours because I was drivingaround in circles, and it
reminds me of a story with theAtlanta Braves.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Okay, I was wondering if you knew about this.
Pascual Perez you can tell thestory.
Oh.
So Pascual Perez was a pitcherfor the Braves and he was due to
start as the pitcher this onenight and he knew that, hey, the
stadium is right off thehighway.
I mean, you can literally seethe old Braves stadium from the
(17:53):
75-85 that runs right throughdowntown.
So he just thought, ok, I'llget on the highway, I'll drive
down to the stadium.
Well, he gets on 285, thecircle that doesn't go past the
stadium, it goes around theoutskirts of the city and he
drives around the city for likethree hours, like you did, and
he misses his whole startingpitching night.
They had to pitch somebody else.
They called him perimeter perezfrom then on did they really?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
yeah, I feel bad for him because I honestly know what
it's all about.
Again, there was no gps, therewas nothing like that, and I, I
didn't know right, I didn't knowwhat, I didn't know I will tell
you a little story.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Uh, that might commiserate a little bit.
So the first time I ever wentto new york city, my band was
playing at this thing called theCMJ new music showcase in like
1990.
And um, we drove a stationwagon from Athens, georgia, the
violets drove to New York cityand we get into New York and I
(18:56):
can't remember where, how wecame in.
I'm guessing it was like theHolland tunnel or something, and
I just kind of kept going.
And then I saw this thing thatsaid Manhattan bridge and I'm
like well, we want to go toManhattan.
So I got on the Manhattanbridge that takes you to
Brooklyn, and we're drivingaround Brooklyn, we're like,
where, where is, you know, 14thstreet and six Avenue?
(19:20):
And they're like you need to goto Manhattan.
So it was.
It was similar.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, and it's funny because I know New York Well.
I still do and still can getaround with no problem.
I've also learned how to drivetwo 85.
So, jimmy, I mentioned I'm uphere in Levittown where I grew
up, and you know, unfortunatelyso many places are closing and
(19:47):
literally probably 10 housesdown from where my mom lives, a
place called Flowers by Phil 65years of business just closed
last week and now this is aplace that, starting with my
junior prom, that's where Iwould get like the corsage for
my prom, junior prom date, andthen my senior prom and birthday
(20:12):
things or Mother's Day stufffrom my mom or just different
things throughout the years.
And it's just kind of sad tosee 65 years in business and
last week it's over.
That's sad.
Yeah, last night I went toDominico's here in Levittown and
(20:32):
it's been in business for 58years and at the end of the
month it's closing and I wentlast night and there was a wait
to get in.
It was absolutely packed withpeople because everybody wants
to go and experience it for onelast time.
The food is that good.
But it's not just the food,it's the staff that's been there
(20:56):
forever, the owners that havealways owned it, it's the whole
experience and that's what makesit Dominico's, that's what
makes it what it is.
And you know I have been goingthere, you know, since I left
New York.
Every time I go back up hereand I go with my friends, the
(21:17):
Dominico's, we always take apicture in front of the
restaurant.
And last night was kind ofbittersweet because I took a
picture with one of my friends,knowing that that's probably the
last time, and posted it onFacebook.
And so many people arecommenting, but so many people I
know are doing the same thing.
(21:38):
I made the pilgrimage to getthat last italian food and it
was good, it really was good.
So let's move on.
Let's revisit some more greatmusic from the past.
Gonna start off with gratefuldead, working man's dead,
released on june 14th 1970.
First of two albums released inuh 70, the other being American
(22:03):
Beauty, came out in Novemberand both albums go together.
They were recorded totallyseparately, but you think that
they go together and a lot oftimes I think if you say a song,
you're not sure if it's onWorking Man's Dead or if it's on
American Beauty, and it's lesspsychedelic, it's more straight
(22:23):
up rock, folk, country rock thatthey started to become known
for.
And it's got some classicsUncle John's Band, high Time,
dire Wolf, new Speedway, boogie,which is about the Altamont
1969 experience that we'vetalked about, cumberland Blues,
casey Jones, switchman, sleeping.
(22:45):
Train 102 is on the wrong trackand headed for you Great
introductory album to theGrateful Dead, if you're
interested in it.
And you know what, jimmy?
I'm looking at my watch andit's time for Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
(23:06):
Minute with Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Minute with Jimmy Okay, going back to 1985, right
around now, june 10th Life andhow to Live it from the Fables
of the Reconstruction album, andit's a true story about a guy
that lived in a house in athens,georgia, and he built a wall in
the middle of his house and hemade two apartments that had
(23:28):
completely different clothes,and one had a tv, one had a
radio, different books,different food, everything was
different, and he would live onone side for a while and then
he'd get tired of it and hewould live on the other side for
a while and he just bouncedback and forth living on these
two sides.
Well, eventually he passed awayand somebody took the house
(23:50):
over and was clearing it out andthey found this closet stacked
with books that he had writtencalled life and how to live it.
He'd never sold one, he had itall published and bound and they
just sat in his closet and remwrote a song about him I did not
know that.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I just learned something new.
That is crazy.
The book is it something thatyou can go out and buy what?
What ended up happening with it?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Well, I was just looking on eBay.
You can buy one now for $1,500.
Oh wow, it's rare for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Wow, very good minute with Jimmy.
My name is Jimmy, so youmentioned that was from June
10th of 1985.
We're going to go up a week toJune 17th 1985.
Aha, take On Me was releasedand it entered the Billboard Hot
100 on July 13th and peaked atnumber one on October 19th.
(24:53):
It took three months from thetime it entered till it hit
number one, and it was onlynumber one for one week.
It actually was the LIRScreamer of the Week the third
week of August.
So this is one of the few timesthat LIR didn't have the
Screamer before it got into theBillboard Hot 100.
(25:14):
And I think it's one of thefirst super cool videos on MTV.
Yeah, it was Up until then.
I think Thriller was probablythe most innovative MTV video
and then Take On Me came out andit's right up there.
I mean, I just think it'sfantastic.
We're talking away.
I don't know what I'm to say.
(25:36):
I'll say it anyway.
They were Norwegian and I thinkthat maybe they had the words
and then they just literallytranslated into English or
something, because when you lookat the words it's not something
you know.
Someone wouldn't talk that way,but yet we all sing the song
the way that it is and love itthat way.
(25:57):
It was like drawings comingalive in the video and a girl
she's reading a black and whitecomic book and it's got
motorcycle racing with thesidecars like that old school
motorcycle racing that they usedto do, and there's a drawing of
(26:17):
a hand that comes out of thecomic book and it grabs the
girl's hand and pulls her intothe story and you know, the rest
is just video.
History on on the way that theydid everything and it won a
bunch of mtv video awards and itwas just super cool yeah, it's
like it still is the person'slooking in the mirror and their
reflection is a drawing right,you know yes but they're in live
(26:42):
action.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, so it's.
It was a really innovative useof uh animation yeah, and that's
40 years ago.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
They did that.
I mean, it was blowing awayeverything that had come out at
that time.
Yeah, so the singer of the band, morton harkett, announced on
june 4th 2025 that he has parkParkinson's disease and that
he's actually had to have twobrain surgeries that he had in
2024.
(27:09):
So our thoughts go out to him.
So on June 4th 1990, steveBader's died in Paris, and I
know many of you are now sayingwho Steve was in the dead Boys
from 1975 to 1979, and Lords ofthe New Church from 1981 to 1989
(27:31):
.
The Lords' first album in 1982had the songs Open your Eyes and
Russian Roulette, a songinfluenced by the 1979 film
Apocalypse Now and starts offwith the sounds of the
helicopter blades just like themovie, and I did not mention
that when we talked aboutApocalypse Now sometime last
(27:53):
year.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Stiv was on a motorbike when a car hit him,
knocked him to the ground andyou know, did he go to the
hospital?
Did he not go to the hospital?
Was he standing on the sidewalk?
Did he get hit while on amotorbike?
Was it a taxi?
Was it a car?
It doesn't.
It's never clear.
Everybody has a different storyof what happened.
(28:14):
But we all know is that hedidn't think it was serious.
He ended up back at hisapartment and he died from a
brain injury in his sleep.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yes, so you can reach us atmusicinmyshoes at gmailcom.
Please like and follow theMusic In my Shoes Facebook and
Instagram pages and share thepodcast with anyone you think
(28:38):
may like the show.
They may like listening to it.
You would know think may likethe show.
They may like listening to it.
You would know.
Get them set up on it.
That's it for episode 82 ofMusic in my Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of
Arcade 160 Studios located inAtlanta, georgia, and Vic Thrill
, for our podcast music.
This is Jim Boge and I've beencoming to you from Levittown,
(29:00):
new York.
I hope you learned somethingnew or remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
Thank you.
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