July 20, 2025 • 34 mins
Journey back to the summer of 1980 through a recently listened to hour of WPLJ radio from July 18, highlighting the soundtrack of that era and the memories it evokes.
• Exploration of a genuine hour of WPLJ radio from July 18, 1980
• Discussion of Willie Nelson's "On the Road Again" from the movie Honeysuckle Rose
• Reminiscing about my Top 5 Favorite All-Time Live Album, The Kinks "One for the Road"
• Connections between Caddyshack's release and Kenny Loggins' hit "I'm Alright"
• Memories of seeing the B-52s perform in Atlanta in 1990
• Jimmy's special segment on This Is Spinal Tap's enduring comedy legacy
• Reflection on "Teach Your Children" by Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Bogeand you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 88.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old, jimmy.
Back on episode 73, 15 episodesago already, I spoke about
(00:56):
listening to 95.5 FM WPLJ in NewYork in the spring of 1980.
And the impact that it had onme in my musical learning
journey.
I guess that's what I wouldcall it Okay.
My musical learning journey,because I don't have a musical
journey, I'm not a musician.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Musical learning journey.
How about that?
There you go.
So the other night, while I wasonline, I was looking for
something and I came across anhour of PLJ recorded on July
18th 1980.
Oh fun, with Carol Miller asthe DJ so great DJ.
She's on SiriusXM still.
(01:34):
And it was cool because while Imade a lot of cassettes I never
included the commercials and Igot to actually hear the
commercial.
It was a real hour of what washappening.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
That's great.
You know, was there a littlelike nobody beats the whiz in
there?
Was there a?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Stay tuned.
There was not, but that's goodthat you know that, Because that
was a commercial that I wouldhear many times back in the day.
So it starts off with a liveversion of you Really Got Me by
the Kinks on the One for theRoad album, yeah, and followed
up by Accidents Never Happenedby Blondie Walk this Way,
(02:16):
Aerosmith and it's funny becausethis is pre-Run DMC Aerosmith,
you know and it's just this truerock song at this time.
The Legend of Woolly Swamp,Charlie Daniels Band, which was
an album I can't remember whathis album was, but he had an
album out the summer of 1980.
That was one of the songs thatthey played.
Didn't go very far, but it wasbeing played.
(02:40):
And then a commercial for themovie Honeysuckle Rose, and
Carol says starts today inselect theaters.
So this hour that I'm listeningto is the same day Honeysuckle
Rose comes out, which is a filmstarring Willie Nelson, Diane
Cannon and Amy Irvin.
(03:02):
And other people.
I don't remember everyone else,so Diane Cannon.
She was married to Cary Grantat one time in the 60s, he was
33 years older than her and AmyIrvin was married to Steven
Spielberg at one point.
Okay, just to give you an ideaof who they may be.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So I mostly remember the movie for the song On the
Road Again.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Not that I would normally listen to that kind of
music, and I don't mean anything.
That just wasn't what I waslistening to 45 years ago.
I wasn't listening to any sortof country really at all, maybe
a little Johnny Cash I wouldhear once in a while through you
know, my father or something.
But this song On the Road,again, it was infectious.
(03:48):
It was like man, it's like justhad this, like you know, like
you, just like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's like a road song it's chugging along.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I still love it.
I still love this song from thefirst time that I heard it 45
years ago.
And if you told me that 45years ago, that you would be
telling people 45 years in thefuture, I'd be like you're crazy
.
There's no way On the roadagain.
Just can't wait to get on theroad again.
(04:17):
The life I love is making musicwith my friends and I can't
wait to get on the road again.
I'd be proud to go on the roadwith you, Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Let's do it.
Let's take this thing on theroad.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I like it.
Maybe we should.
I like that.
So out of the commercial, backto music.
Good Love and Gone Bad by BadCompany, betty Lou's Getting Out
Tonight by Bob Seger and theSilver Bullet Band.
Betty Lou's Getting Out Tonightby Bob Seger and the Silver
Bullet Band.
And I've definitely taken someabuse from some people that I'm
not a huge Bob Seger fan.
(04:50):
I didn't say that I dislikedhim.
I just one time said I'm not ahuge Bob Seger fan and I've
heard a lot from peopleregarding that.
I like this song.
It wasn't a single but it wasone of those songs they played
on the radio a ton and I reallyliked it and so I kind of looked
.
I tend to like his songs thatweren't singles a lot more than
(05:12):
I like the singles that werereleased.
It just happens to be that way.
So for anyone who thought thatI didn't like Bob Seger, there
you go.
Betty Lou's getting out tonight.
Restless Heart by SouthsideJohnny and the Asbury Jukes.
They were one of the bands thatwould play at the Stone Pony.
So you know you talk aboutBruce Springsteen, southside
(05:35):
Johnny.
You know all of these bandsthat made the Stone Pony
Southside.
Johnny was one of them Ain't TooProud to Beg the Rolling Stones
Coming up the live version byPaul McCartney and Wings.
The good version, right thegood version and then a
commercial for the Devo albumand tape Freedom of Choice.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I was in shock, to be honest, because that
necessarily wasn't what theywere playing.
You know they were playing justrock.
It wasn't called classic rockthen, it was just called rock
music.
And to hear this commercialwhere you know it's one I don't
know if it's Mark Mothersbroughor who it is, but it's somebody
(06:25):
from Devo talking about you gotto get the album and the tape
and it's just crazy Whip.
It would enter the Billboardchart on August 30th and peak at
number 14 on November 15th 1980.
Another one of those songs thatwas all over radio Album
includes Girl.
You Want Gates of Steel and myfavorite Devo song I've talked
about this before Freedom ofChoice.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, that's my favorite Devo album.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, I love that record.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's so good I mean it's a really good album to
listen to.
And it's kind of funny becausethe record company threatened
them, saying you need to havesome hits, you need to do
something.
And you know they did.
They came across.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, they still kept it in their style, though.
Yes, very much so.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
No, not at all.
And I heard the commercial onWPLJ Back to the music with
Don't Do Me Like that by TomPetty and the Heartbreakers Hold
the Line by Toto Gonna Get Yaby Pete Townsend.
(07:31):
I think it's the second bestsong on the album.
Empty Glass was the album thatwas out after Let my Love Open
the Door and again wasn'treleased as a single, but it
received radio airplay.
It's a really good song.
I love it, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I need to look that one up.
I don't know if I know it.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, check it out, it really is good.
10th Avenue frees out BruceSpringsteen and the E Street
Band Mm-hmm.
And finishing off the hour isanother who member Free Me by
Roger Daltrey, released prior tothe August 1980 movie McVicar,
(08:12):
and that starred Roger Daltreyalso, as I think it was John
McVicar was the guy's name.
It's a true story about a guythat stops robbing places and
then needs money and goes backinto it and gets caught, and
it's this whole thing.
And Roger stars in it.
He does the soundtrack, andanother song from the movie is
(08:33):
Bitter and Twisted, and that wason the radio a bunch as well.
So there was these two songsthat I would hear all the time,
I think, listening to this WPLJHour.
It just kind of reinforced whatI thought the summer of 80 was
at times when I would listen torock radio because they played a
ton of the songs that you know.
(08:54):
I'm sure you haven't heard abunch of these songs that I just
mentioned, but to me they arepart of the summer of 1980.
Speaking of the summer of 1980,I mentioned the Kinks album One
for the Road.
Well, five days after that hourof WPLJ, Lola was released as a
(09:14):
single, and that was July 23rd1980.
I've mentioned before it's inmy top five favorite live albums
of all time.
Double album has a group ofclassic and newer songs and they
just did the right mixture ofeverything and played them in an
(09:35):
order where you could justlisten to all four sides and
just kept you, you know, engagedthe whole entire time.
Really, Really, really good.
Where have all the good timesgone?
All day and all the night.
Stop your sobbing Till the endof the day.
Victoria, you really got me.
I mean I'm going to continue,but just that list right.
(09:59):
There is fantastic Celluloidheroes.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Everybody's a dreamer and everybody's a star and
everybody's in movies.
It doesn't matter who you are.
Man talks about Greta Garbo,betty Davis, rudolph Valentino,
(10:25):
bela Lugosi, and then the singlethat was released, lola so Lola
.
The studio version was released10 years earlier, June of 1970,
and August 70 hits Billboardpeaks at number nine in October
of 1970.
And the song was originallyrecorded with the lyrics.
(10:45):
I met her in a club down in OldSoho where you drink champagne
and it tastes just like.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Coca-Cola.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Right, but that wouldn't work because the BBC
wouldn't play a song.
If you're putting a brand out,there.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Oh, that's why they changed it to Cherry Cola.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That's why because on June 3, 1970, the Kinks are on
tour in America and Ray Davies,the singer, hops on a plane,
goes to London and does the onesong, one line cherry cola, one
line, I mean tastes like cherrycola.
(11:28):
They get it, hops back on aplane and the next night arrives
just in time for the kink showin New York City 6,000 miles,
because back then they didn'thave the type of technology that
we have today.
I mean, if you think about theway that we do the podcast, I
mean I'm here, you know, you're10 feet away from me, you know,
(11:51):
if I go out of town, I can do itfrom wherever I am.
It's simple, not a lot involved.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, I mean there were other ways they could have
done that.
I, I know, when I first startedin the studio business, things
were still kind of being donethe old way, like there wasn't
as much technology.
So people were fedexing tapesand things everywhere and uh,
you know, what they could havedone is they could have had him
(12:21):
go to a studio in New York andrecord, but I guess they would
have had to have the track forhim to record to and they didn't
have it there.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
So, yeah, I guess popping him on a plane was the
thing to do.
They needed to make sure thatthey had it all good and ready
to go, especially on this tour.
Now, again, today, it's a pieceof cake to do that.
(12:48):
You know the way thattechnology is.
You can just.
You know it tastes just likecherry cola and England can have
it.
Just that quick, right.
The newer songs included CatchMe Now I'm Falling Pressure
Misfits.
Low Budget.
Wish I Could Fly Like Supermanand I have to go back to Lola.
(13:08):
The live version of this isjust awesome and it just sounds
like a rock song compared to theoriginal studio when it kind of
came out.
The original studio to me isalmost a little folky.
This one is just rocking.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's just ready to go , yeah, well.
Well, they'd become a rock bandby that point they were arena
rock by then.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You know that's what they were.
But I love them.
I mean, I like their 60s, theearly 60s stuff.
I like their early 70s stuff.
There's a part there that youknow I'm so so about.
But then when they come backwith those albums in 77, 78, 79,
oh, they're just fantastic,just love them.
(13:53):
So I'm looking at old reviews.
I decided let me go look atsome old reviews of the album,
and there was one by musiccritic Dave Marsh, for Rolling
Stone magazine.
Now Dave Marsh was known forbeing harsh on people, that he
didn't like the band and he justwould say things that were
(14:15):
extremely harsh.
This is what he had to say whenhe wrote an article about this
album.
This set is so hot I'm preparedto renounce my skepticism and
admit that this is the greatrock band its partisans have
always claimed.
That's a lot for Dave Marsh,because he doesn't normally do
(14:39):
that.
Once he dislikes you, from whatI have seen and reading a bunch
of his reviews over the years,it doesn't usually change a
whole lot.
Two days after the Lola singlecomes out, the movie Caddyshack
is released on July 25th 1980.
Now, while it's a film aboutgolf and nothing to do with
(15:02):
music.
The beginning and the end ofthe movie crack me up.
The film starts off with agopher burrowing.
That's one of those words thatI struggle with.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You did pretty well.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I appreciate that it's way through a golf course,
pops out of a hole in the groundand starts dancing the gopher
dance.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
You're not as thrilled with it as I am.
I can see the look in your face.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
No, I think it was one of the parts of Caddyshack
that I don't remember as fondly.
I love that movie, but thegopher come on.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And then at the end, jimmy Carl, the groundskeeper,
who's played by Bill Murray andhe's been dealing with the
gopher and, you know, creatingthe gopher holes, you know,
throughout the beautiful golfcourse all movie long.
And unable to get rid of thegopher, carl blows up with
plastic explosives all aroundthe golf course and the gopher
(15:59):
survives and comes out of theground dancing to Kenny Loggins'
I'm Alright, doing the gopherdance, yeah great song.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Great theme song for the movie.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I'm all right, nobody worried about me.
Why you gotta give me a fight,can't you just let it be?
Wow, the song peaked at numberseven on billboard.
I'm telling you I love watchingthe gopher dance, jimmy, I love
that more than I love the wholemovie.
Okay, and everything else thatgoes on.
I know at the end there there'sa contest and the explosions
(16:35):
make the ball fall in the hole.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
And then something happens.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, but I know You're just there for the puppet
.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I am.
I know the gopher is all right.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I'll tell you.
Another great song in thatmovie, though, is when Rodney
has his tricked out, you knowgolf bag and he says let's dance
.
And he turns on a stereo andit's like super loud and they're
playing uh journey.
Any way you want it, that's afun scene that is a good and
that's rodney dangerfield whatdid I say?
(17:07):
You said rodney, just for thosethat don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Rodney Dangerfield I really liked Rodney Dangerfield
in general.
I just found him funny.
I just you know what was he.
He was in that movie where hewent like back to school and you
know.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, I like that one too.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
He was a comedian.
He was on Johnny Carson.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Was your favorite thing in back to school his son.
That was in the movie.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Was that because I couldn't stand his son and back
to school?
No, no, not at all.
We agree on that, we agree onthat part.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yes, rod, you remember what he had to do?
The the special dive.
Do you remember what that wascalled?
No, the triple lindy yes, thetriple lindy.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You're right, that is it thornton mellon wow, you
remember a lot and caddyshack.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
He was Al Chervik.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You definitely.
You know what?
Not only am I all right, you'reall right, the gopher's all
right, we're all all right.
Oh, now we sound like a cheaptrick 35 years ago.
I saw the B-52s at LakewoodAmphitheater on July 21st 1990.
(18:14):
35 years 1990.
I know we talk about itprobably too much, but yes, it's
hard to believe.
90s, 35 years ago, my secondconcert since I moved to Atlanta
I've probably been living herefive weeks somewhere around
there and that was like, like Isaid in 1990, ziggy marley and
(18:35):
the melody makers open up,playing some of ziggy's uh dad
songs.
You know, bob marley, um, getup, stand up.
Could you be loved as well asziggy and the melody makers?
Big song tomorrow, people, I Iactually hum that a lot.
That's one of the songs, likeif I'm just kind of doing stuff,
(18:57):
or even if I'm at work and I'mworking on my computer, all of a
sudden I'll just start to humit, maybe sing it a little bit.
I'm not sure why, but I do.
It's a good song it is.
You know, two years earlier onBillboard it reached number 39
in July of 1988.
So the B-52s were touring forthe album Cosmic Thing and I had
(19:20):
seen them at Radio City earlierin the year, before I had moved
here, and I want to say theViolent Femmes opened up for
them.
I'm not 100% positive but Ibelieve that they did and you
know, of course they played thetitle song, Cosmic Thing.
They played that song, DryCounty, Deadbeat, Club, Rome,
(19:47):
Love Shack.
You know, if I remembercorrectly.
I don't remember exactlyeverything that they played, but
I remember some of the classicsGive Me Back my man, Dance this
Mess Around, Private Idaho,Strobelight, Planet, Claire Rock
, Lobster, Whammy, Kiss and, Ithink, 52 Girls, which is one of
(20:07):
my favorite B-52 songs, and itwas just so cool seeing them in
Atlanta.
Now I know they're an AthensGeorgia band but when I first
moved here I didn't know thedifference between Athens and
Georgia and Savannah andanywhere else.
Just to me it was Georgia.
But it was cool seeing themhere, kind of you know their
(20:28):
home turf, Like I felt like man,this is like, this is something
big to talk about and I didn'treally have anything to talk
about it until 35 years later 35years later.
On this episode.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, that same year did Cosmic Thing come out in 90?
.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It came out in 89, I believe.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Shortly after that came out they played.
It might have been the openingof their tour.
They played at Legion Field inAthens, georgia.
A free show for you know,mainly the students were there
but this big field and it was areally fun show to see and I was
really proud of them because Ihad stuck with the B-52s through
the lean times.
You know B-52s had their bigalbums in the late 70s, early
(21:10):
80s and then they had a few thatpeople were thinking OK, maybe
the B-52 should hang it up.
And then they come out withCosmic Thing and it's like, oh
yes, they're back.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, I mean in their defense.
It's really tough to be able todo that party, just kind of
different sound of music, for along time.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
And be successful with your popularity you know,
and I think that you're right.
I mean, this album came out andyou're like man, I've missed
the B-52s.
Because, you're right, they didhave some lean years.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, and also they lost Ricky Wilson, their guitar
player, and then KeithStrickland was the drummer and
he moved over to guitar and theyjust got like a sitting-in kind
of session player guy to playthe drums.
So the B-52s are really justfour people now and they used to
be five and they had to kind ofreinvent themselves to work
(22:02):
without Ricky.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, and I think he only played some songs with, you
know, not the full six strings,I think that you know.
I heard that sometimes heplayed some of the songs with
less than six strings becausethat's the way he could get the
sound that he wanted to get.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
He got such incredible sounds and some of
the things that he plays as aguitar player.
I'm wondering did he play thatall at once or did he have to
play the one part on the lowstrings and the part on the high
strings separately, because hewas very precise and you know
just all these like if youlisten to something like private
idaho you know, it's, it's justgot all these very precise
(22:40):
notes in it and, uh, he was.
He was incredible yeah, greatband.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
All of them are great in what you know they brought
to the band to make them whatthey are.
You know they needed everysingle one of those pieces and
they all fit perfectly.
And it all started, you know,not here but very close to here,
in Athens, ga.
Recently I went to see KevinKinney of Driving and Crying and
(23:06):
Peter Buck of REM do a showtogether in Athens actually and
we're waiting for the show tobegin and a mutual friend of
ours, robert, he's sitting nextto me and he says something I
don't remember exactly, butsomething like what's Bill Barry
up to these days?
Because we're seeing Peter Buck.
(23:29):
You know I've talked aboutseeing Mike Mills with Gang of
Four and you know he's doingsome other projects.
And you know I've talked aboutseeing Mike Mills with Gang of
Four and you know he's doingsome other projects.
And you know he just waswondering what is Bill Barry up
to?
And you know I didn't reallysay much.
You know, I'm not sure whatever, bill Barry being the REM
(23:50):
drummer, I guess I need to saythat the REM drummer, and like
five minutes later, don't?
You know Bill Barry, sitsbehind us, two people down from
where Robert is.
And I said to him immediatelydon't turn around.
And he goes.
I said don't turn around, butBill Barry is sitting there.
He goes.
No, he's not.
I said he is.
(24:11):
This is literally like fiveminutes after he asked me about
that.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
He conjured up Bill Barry.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And I remember because I looked first and then
I was staring and then he justkind of looked at me and I'm
like that's Bill Barry.
You know, that's him Right.
And it was just so funnysometimes how things work out.
You mentioned something andthen boom, like you said there,
he is there, he is.
And then, you know, we turnedaround and then maybe five
(24:39):
minutes later we turned he wasgone.
He didn't play with them,nothing.
I guess he just came to watchthe show and see what it was
about, and it was interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Made an appearance.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Made an appearance.
Let's revisit some more goodmusic, because that's what we do
here.
On Music in my Shoes Crosby,stills, nash, young, teacher
Children.
It peaked at number 16 onBillboard Hot 100, july 25th
1970.
I remember this song from earlyelementary school years Not
(25:12):
1970, but not long after Likethis is one of those songs, like
one of the first songs I canremember hearing.
So it just holds a little placein my heart.
While it's a Crosby, stills andNash and Young album, neil
Young's not on it.
It was recorded before he gotwith them on this particular
(25:35):
album but that's Jerry Garcia ofthe Grateful Dead on pedal
steel guitar right from theget-go.
Oh, so to return the favor, theband worked with members of the
Grateful Dead teaching them howto sing harmonies for the
(25:55):
Working Man's Dead album, whichwe talked about a bunch of
episodes ago, and AmericanBeauty, which we'll talk about
in November.
And if you listen to those twoalbums, they're the only albums
that really have seriousharmonies where you could say,
yeah, that does remind me alittle bit of crossbeast stills,
nash and young.
(26:17):
So I always thought that thatwas pretty cool and I remember,
like the first day that I foundout that that was jerry garcia
and I was like I have loved thissong.
It's one of the first songsthat I've ever known in my life,
but I didn't know that it wasJerry Garcia until I was
30-something years old.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, I don't think I knew until right now.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
There you go.
You were this many days old andthat's zero.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
They must have had to really corral him in because
it's not all noodley going onfor 45 minutes like he is live.
You know it's concise littleguitar parts.
I mean, I can think of theguitar part in my head right now
.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, I think it was because he needed them to teach
them how to sing harmonies.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He's like I'll do whatever you want me to do.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I don't need any money.
You don't even have to say Idid it, just help us.
Tick, tick, tick.
It's Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for a minute withjimmy.
Minute with jimmy.
Minute with jimmy.
It's time for a minute withjimmy minute with jimmy when it
was jimmy.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
So I went to a movie the other night called this is
spinal tap, you know, from 1984.
For some reason they did a 41stanniversary tour of it instead
of a 40th, uh, but they put itinto theaters a couple weeks ago
for about a week and various,you know, select theaters around
the country, and so I asked myson and my wife if they wanted
to go see it and turned outthey've never seen it.
(27:45):
I'm very, you know, a deficientdad and husband for never
having played spinal tap forthem.
My daughter did watch it withme once, but they said they'd
never seen it.
So we go to the theater and I'mwondering okay, how's this
going to hold up?
I probably literally saw themovie 50 to 100 times when I was
in high school.
We would just watch that overat people's houses all the time.
(28:05):
We knew every line from it soit's hard for me to be objective
, but really they really likedit.
Like it got a bunch of laughsfrom them and from other people
in the theater that may or maynot have known it, and yeah, I
really liked it too.
It holds up.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
It's funny that they do things like that.
So, Jimmy, did you see itoriginally in a movie theater or
only at someone's house?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I think this was the first time I ever saw it in a
theater.
Yeah, Really.
Yeah, because the first time Isaw it was over at my older
brother's house and he hadrented it on a VHS, you know,
back then, so it must've beenout of theaters by then.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Well, speaking of out of theaters, and you're out of
time with Minute, with Jimmy,why don't we go just a little
bit longer?
Just give a quick littlepremise, a little plot of what
goes on in the movie.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So this Is Spinal Tap is really kind of the first
mockumentary that I know ofwhere they made a fake
documentary about a fake bandthat is a hard rock band from
England and it's supposed to beabout following their big
comeback, their their next tour,but really what it ends up
(29:17):
documenting is their fall.
They're already starting tolose popularity, and then
there's infighting and there areall these comedic things that
happen along the way and they,they kind of get down to to rock
bottom and I don't want to giveeverything away, but yeah, yeah
, a lot of, a lot of funnythings, a lot of really great
(29:37):
songs that they, they wrote.
It's Christopher Guest andMichael McKeon and Harry Shearer
are the three main guys in theband and so they're just comic
geniuses and it spawned allthose other mockumentaries that
came from sort of the samenucleus of of people.
Rob Reiner directed it, so allthe movies like Best in Show and
(30:01):
A Mighty Wind and lots ofothers came from that same crew.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Very good.
Hey, can you turn it up to 11for me?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Oh yeah.
So that's one of the thingsthat I thought most people the
first time they see Spinal Tap.
That's the one joke they comeaway with.
Their amps go.
Instead of just going to 10,they go to 11.
And Rob Reiner says, well, whydon't you just make 10 the
loudest number and make that alittle louder?
And he says, well, these go to11.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
It is still funny.
I mean it really is thereaction of why?
Because it goes to 11.
I mean, rob Reiner makes allthe sense in the world with the
question, but the answer isgreat.
Now, what I find is kind ofcool about the movie is, as time
has gone on you know, we're 41years since the movie there's
(30:57):
all of these heavy metal bandsthat say that this scene was,
you know, inspired by us or thiswas about us, and it's so funny
that everybody wants to be partof it in some way or another.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, and one of the things that they say, especially
Christopher Guest's character,nigel Tufnel, was pretty much
directly based on Jeff Beck.
So when Jeff Beck passed away,I think it was either last year,
I think it was last year.
Videos went around ofinterviews with Jeff Beck from
the 70s that just looked exactlylike the interviews in Spinal
(31:33):
Tap.
You know, he's chewing gum, he'ssmoking a cigarette, he's
saying things that are a littlebit goofy but very deep.
He talks a lot about musicalstyles and jazz and classical
and everything, and then a lotof times is just playing heavy
rock.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Right, well, that was cool, jimmy.
That was a very good fewminutes with Jimmy.
It was worth it, definitelyworth it.
Now I'm turning it up to 11.
Everybody turn it up to 11,because we're getting close to
the end here.
When it was Jimmy, summer Loveby Friends of the Show APB was
the WLIR Screamer of the Week,second week of July 1985.
(32:15):
One of my favorite songs by APBGreat bass, groove, great song,
jimmy.
It's hard to believe it's been54 episodes since Ian and George
joined us on Music in my Shoes,so right a little over a year
ago yeah.
That's how quickly time goes.
It really really goes.
That was fun.
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Check that out, if you guys haven't.
You know the listeners.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yes, please do.
Apb is really good and you know, if you like 80s, you know
danceable, funky bass andeverything.
Apb is the band for you.
Listen, if you want to reachout to us not just about going
up to 11, it could be going tovolume five.
If that's all you want to us,not just about going up to 11.
It could be going to Volume 5.
If that's all you want to do,you can reach us at
musicinmyshoes at gmailcom.
(33:00):
Please like and follow theMusic in my Shoes Facebook and
Instagram pages and share thepodcast with your friends.
That's it for Episode 88 ofMusic in my Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of
Arcade 160 Studios located herein Atlanta, georgia, and Vic
Thrill for our podcast music andthose who are successful.
(33:24):
Be always on your guard.
Success walks hand in hand withfailure along Hollywood
Boulevard.
This is Jim Boge, and I hopeyou learned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
Thank you.
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Bogeand you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 88.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old, jimmy.
Back on episode 73, 15 episodesago already, I spoke about
(00:56):
listening to 95.5 FM WPLJ in NewYork in the spring of 1980.
And the impact that it had onme in my musical learning
journey.
I guess that's what I wouldcall it Okay.
My musical learning journey,because I don't have a musical
journey, I'm not a musician.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Musical learning journey.
How about that?
There you go.
So the other night, while I wasonline, I was looking for
something and I came across anhour of PLJ recorded on July
18th 1980.
Oh fun, with Carol Miller asthe DJ so great DJ.
She's on SiriusXM still.
(01:34):
And it was cool because while Imade a lot of cassettes I never
included the commercials and Igot to actually hear the
commercial.
It was a real hour of what washappening.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
That's great.
You know, was there a littlelike nobody beats the whiz in
there?
Was there a?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Stay tuned.
There was not, but that's goodthat you know that, Because that
was a commercial that I wouldhear many times back in the day.
So it starts off with a liveversion of you Really Got Me by
the Kinks on the One for theRoad album, yeah, and followed
up by Accidents Never Happenedby Blondie Walk this Way,
(02:16):
Aerosmith and it's funny becausethis is pre-Run DMC Aerosmith,
you know and it's just this truerock song at this time.
The Legend of Woolly Swamp,Charlie Daniels Band, which was
an album I can't remember whathis album was, but he had an
album out the summer of 1980.
That was one of the songs thatthey played.
Didn't go very far, but it wasbeing played.
(02:40):
And then a commercial for themovie Honeysuckle Rose, and
Carol says starts today inselect theaters.
So this hour that I'm listeningto is the same day Honeysuckle
Rose comes out, which is a filmstarring Willie Nelson, Diane
Cannon and Amy Irvin.
(03:02):
And other people.
I don't remember everyone else,so Diane Cannon.
She was married to Cary Grantat one time in the 60s, he was
33 years older than her and AmyIrvin was married to Steven
Spielberg at one point.
Okay, just to give you an ideaof who they may be.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So I mostly remember the movie for the song On the
Road Again.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Not that I would normally listen to that kind of
music, and I don't mean anything.
That just wasn't what I waslistening to 45 years ago.
I wasn't listening to any sortof country really at all, maybe
a little Johnny Cash I wouldhear once in a while through you
know, my father or something.
But this song On the Road,again, it was infectious.
(03:48):
It was like man, it's like justhad this, like you know, like
you, just like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's like a road song it's chugging along.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I still love it.
I still love this song from thefirst time that I heard it 45
years ago.
And if you told me that 45years ago, that you would be
telling people 45 years in thefuture, I'd be like you're crazy
.
There's no way On the roadagain.
Just can't wait to get on theroad again.
(04:17):
The life I love is making musicwith my friends and I can't
wait to get on the road again.
I'd be proud to go on the roadwith you, Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Let's do it.
Let's take this thing on theroad.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I like it.
Maybe we should.
I like that.
So out of the commercial, backto music.
Good Love and Gone Bad by BadCompany, betty Lou's Getting Out
Tonight by Bob Seger and theSilver Bullet Band.
Betty Lou's Getting Out Tonightby Bob Seger and the Silver
Bullet Band.
And I've definitely taken someabuse from some people that I'm
not a huge Bob Seger fan.
(04:50):
I didn't say that I dislikedhim.
I just one time said I'm not ahuge Bob Seger fan and I've
heard a lot from peopleregarding that.
I like this song.
It wasn't a single but it wasone of those songs they played
on the radio a ton and I reallyliked it and so I kind of looked
.
I tend to like his songs thatweren't singles a lot more than
(05:12):
I like the singles that werereleased.
It just happens to be that way.
So for anyone who thought thatI didn't like Bob Seger, there
you go.
Betty Lou's getting out tonight.
Restless Heart by SouthsideJohnny and the Asbury Jukes.
They were one of the bands thatwould play at the Stone Pony.
So you know you talk aboutBruce Springsteen, southside
(05:35):
Johnny.
You know all of these bandsthat made the Stone Pony
Southside.
Johnny was one of them Ain't TooProud to Beg the Rolling Stones
Coming up the live version byPaul McCartney and Wings.
The good version, right thegood version and then a
commercial for the Devo albumand tape Freedom of Choice.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I was in shock, to be honest, because that
necessarily wasn't what theywere playing.
You know they were playing justrock.
It wasn't called classic rockthen, it was just called rock
music.
And to hear this commercialwhere you know it's one I don't
know if it's Mark Mothersbroughor who it is, but it's somebody
(06:25):
from Devo talking about you gotto get the album and the tape
and it's just crazy Whip.
It would enter the Billboardchart on August 30th and peak at
number 14 on November 15th 1980.
Another one of those songs thatwas all over radio Album
includes Girl.
You Want Gates of Steel and myfavorite Devo song I've talked
about this before Freedom ofChoice.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, that's my favorite Devo album.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, I love that record.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's so good I mean it's a really good album to
listen to.
And it's kind of funny becausethe record company threatened
them, saying you need to havesome hits, you need to do
something.
And you know they did.
They came across.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, they still kept it in their style, though.
Yes, very much so.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
No, not at all.
And I heard the commercial onWPLJ Back to the music with
Don't Do Me Like that by TomPetty and the Heartbreakers Hold
the Line by Toto Gonna Get Yaby Pete Townsend.
(07:31):
I think it's the second bestsong on the album.
Empty Glass was the album thatwas out after Let my Love Open
the Door and again wasn'treleased as a single, but it
received radio airplay.
It's a really good song.
I love it, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I need to look that one up.
I don't know if I know it.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, check it out, it really is good.
10th Avenue frees out BruceSpringsteen and the E Street
Band Mm-hmm.
And finishing off the hour isanother who member Free Me by
Roger Daltrey, released prior tothe August 1980 movie McVicar,
(08:12):
and that starred Roger Daltreyalso, as I think it was John
McVicar was the guy's name.
It's a true story about a guythat stops robbing places and
then needs money and goes backinto it and gets caught, and
it's this whole thing.
And Roger stars in it.
He does the soundtrack, andanother song from the movie is
(08:33):
Bitter and Twisted, and that wason the radio a bunch as well.
So there was these two songsthat I would hear all the time,
I think, listening to this WPLJHour.
It just kind of reinforced whatI thought the summer of 80 was
at times when I would listen torock radio because they played a
ton of the songs that you know.
(08:54):
I'm sure you haven't heard abunch of these songs that I just
mentioned, but to me they arepart of the summer of 1980.
Speaking of the summer of 1980,I mentioned the Kinks album One
for the Road.
Well, five days after that hourof WPLJ, Lola was released as a
(09:14):
single, and that was July 23rd1980.
I've mentioned before it's inmy top five favorite live albums
of all time.
Double album has a group ofclassic and newer songs and they
just did the right mixture ofeverything and played them in an
(09:35):
order where you could justlisten to all four sides and
just kept you, you know, engagedthe whole entire time.
Really, Really, really good.
Where have all the good timesgone?
All day and all the night.
Stop your sobbing Till the endof the day.
Victoria, you really got me.
I mean I'm going to continue,but just that list right.
(09:59):
There is fantastic Celluloidheroes.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Everybody's a dreamer and everybody's a star and
everybody's in movies.
It doesn't matter who you are.
Man talks about Greta Garbo,betty Davis, rudolph Valentino,
(10:25):
bela Lugosi, and then the singlethat was released, lola so Lola
.
The studio version was released10 years earlier, June of 1970,
and August 70 hits Billboardpeaks at number nine in October
of 1970.
And the song was originallyrecorded with the lyrics.
(10:45):
I met her in a club down in OldSoho where you drink champagne
and it tastes just like.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Coca-Cola.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Right, but that wouldn't work because the BBC
wouldn't play a song.
If you're putting a brand out,there.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Oh, that's why they changed it to Cherry Cola.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That's why because on June 3, 1970, the Kinks are on
tour in America and Ray Davies,the singer, hops on a plane,
goes to London and does the onesong, one line cherry cola, one
line, I mean tastes like cherrycola.
(11:28):
They get it, hops back on aplane and the next night arrives
just in time for the kink showin New York City 6,000 miles,
because back then they didn'thave the type of technology that
we have today.
I mean, if you think about theway that we do the podcast, I
mean I'm here, you know, you're10 feet away from me, you know,
(11:51):
if I go out of town, I can do itfrom wherever I am.
It's simple, not a lot involved.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, I mean there were other ways they could have
done that.
I, I know, when I first startedin the studio business, things
were still kind of being donethe old way, like there wasn't
as much technology.
So people were fedexing tapesand things everywhere and uh,
you know, what they could havedone is they could have had him
(12:21):
go to a studio in New York andrecord, but I guess they would
have had to have the track forhim to record to and they didn't
have it there.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
So, yeah, I guess popping him on a plane was the
thing to do.
They needed to make sure thatthey had it all good and ready
to go, especially on this tour.
Now, again, today, it's a pieceof cake to do that.
(12:48):
You know the way thattechnology is.
You can just.
You know it tastes just likecherry cola and England can have
it.
Just that quick, right.
The newer songs included CatchMe Now I'm Falling Pressure
Misfits.
Low Budget.
Wish I Could Fly Like Supermanand I have to go back to Lola.
(13:08):
The live version of this isjust awesome and it just sounds
like a rock song compared to theoriginal studio when it kind of
came out.
The original studio to me isalmost a little folky.
This one is just rocking.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's just ready to go , yeah, well.
Well, they'd become a rock bandby that point they were arena
rock by then.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You know that's what they were.
But I love them.
I mean, I like their 60s, theearly 60s stuff.
I like their early 70s stuff.
There's a part there that youknow I'm so so about.
But then when they come backwith those albums in 77, 78, 79,
oh, they're just fantastic,just love them.
(13:53):
So I'm looking at old reviews.
I decided let me go look atsome old reviews of the album,
and there was one by musiccritic Dave Marsh, for Rolling
Stone magazine.
Now Dave Marsh was known forbeing harsh on people, that he
didn't like the band and he justwould say things that were
(14:15):
extremely harsh.
This is what he had to say whenhe wrote an article about this
album.
This set is so hot I'm preparedto renounce my skepticism and
admit that this is the greatrock band its partisans have
always claimed.
That's a lot for Dave Marsh,because he doesn't normally do
(14:39):
that.
Once he dislikes you, from whatI have seen and reading a bunch
of his reviews over the years,it doesn't usually change a
whole lot.
Two days after the Lola singlecomes out, the movie Caddyshack
is released on July 25th 1980.
Now, while it's a film aboutgolf and nothing to do with
(15:02):
music.
The beginning and the end ofthe movie crack me up.
The film starts off with agopher burrowing.
That's one of those words thatI struggle with.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You did pretty well.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I appreciate that it's way through a golf course,
pops out of a hole in the groundand starts dancing the gopher
dance.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
You're not as thrilled with it as I am.
I can see the look in your face.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
No, I think it was one of the parts of Caddyshack
that I don't remember as fondly.
I love that movie, but thegopher come on.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And then at the end, jimmy Carl, the groundskeeper,
who's played by Bill Murray andhe's been dealing with the
gopher and, you know, creatingthe gopher holes, you know,
throughout the beautiful golfcourse all movie long.
And unable to get rid of thegopher, carl blows up with
plastic explosives all aroundthe golf course and the gopher
(15:59):
survives and comes out of theground dancing to Kenny Loggins'
I'm Alright, doing the gopherdance, yeah great song.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Great theme song for the movie.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I'm all right, nobody worried about me.
Why you gotta give me a fight,can't you just let it be?
Wow, the song peaked at numberseven on billboard.
I'm telling you I love watchingthe gopher dance, jimmy, I love
that more than I love the wholemovie.
Okay, and everything else thatgoes on.
I know at the end there there'sa contest and the explosions
(16:35):
make the ball fall in the hole.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
And then something happens.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, but I know You're just there for the puppet
.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I am.
I know the gopher is all right.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I'll tell you.
Another great song in thatmovie, though, is when Rodney
has his tricked out, you knowgolf bag and he says let's dance
.
And he turns on a stereo andit's like super loud and they're
playing uh journey.
Any way you want it, that's afun scene that is a good and
that's rodney dangerfield whatdid I say?
(17:07):
You said rodney, just for thosethat don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Rodney Dangerfield I really liked Rodney Dangerfield
in general.
I just found him funny.
I just you know what was he.
He was in that movie where hewent like back to school and you
know.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, I like that one too.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
He was a comedian.
He was on Johnny Carson.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Was your favorite thing in back to school his son.
That was in the movie.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Was that because I couldn't stand his son and back
to school?
No, no, not at all.
We agree on that, we agree onthat part.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yes, rod, you remember what he had to do?
The the special dive.
Do you remember what that wascalled?
No, the triple lindy yes, thetriple lindy.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You're right, that is it thornton mellon wow, you
remember a lot and caddyshack.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
He was Al Chervik.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You definitely.
You know what?
Not only am I all right, you'reall right, the gopher's all
right, we're all all right.
Oh, now we sound like a cheaptrick 35 years ago.
I saw the B-52s at LakewoodAmphitheater on July 21st 1990.
(18:14):
35 years 1990.
I know we talk about itprobably too much, but yes, it's
hard to believe.
90s, 35 years ago, my secondconcert since I moved to Atlanta
I've probably been living herefive weeks somewhere around
there and that was like, like Isaid in 1990, ziggy marley and
(18:35):
the melody makers open up,playing some of ziggy's uh dad
songs.
You know, bob marley, um, getup, stand up.
Could you be loved as well asziggy and the melody makers?
Big song tomorrow, people, I Iactually hum that a lot.
That's one of the songs, likeif I'm just kind of doing stuff,
(18:57):
or even if I'm at work and I'mworking on my computer, all of a
sudden I'll just start to humit, maybe sing it a little bit.
I'm not sure why, but I do.
It's a good song it is.
You know, two years earlier onBillboard it reached number 39
in July of 1988.
So the B-52s were touring forthe album Cosmic Thing and I had
(19:20):
seen them at Radio City earlierin the year, before I had moved
here, and I want to say theViolent Femmes opened up for
them.
I'm not 100% positive but Ibelieve that they did and you
know, of course they played thetitle song, Cosmic Thing.
They played that song, DryCounty, Deadbeat, Club, Rome,
(19:47):
Love Shack.
You know, if I remembercorrectly.
I don't remember exactlyeverything that they played, but
I remember some of the classicsGive Me Back my man, Dance this
Mess Around, Private Idaho,Strobelight, Planet, Claire Rock
, Lobster, Whammy, Kiss and, Ithink, 52 Girls, which is one of
(20:07):
my favorite B-52 songs, and itwas just so cool seeing them in
Atlanta.
Now I know they're an AthensGeorgia band but when I first
moved here I didn't know thedifference between Athens and
Georgia and Savannah andanywhere else.
Just to me it was Georgia.
But it was cool seeing themhere, kind of you know their
(20:28):
home turf, Like I felt like man,this is like, this is something
big to talk about and I didn'treally have anything to talk
about it until 35 years later 35years later.
On this episode.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, that same year did Cosmic Thing come out in 90?
.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It came out in 89, I believe.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Shortly after that came out they played.
It might have been the openingof their tour.
They played at Legion Field inAthens, georgia.
A free show for you know,mainly the students were there
but this big field and it was areally fun show to see and I was
really proud of them because Ihad stuck with the B-52s through
the lean times.
You know B-52s had their bigalbums in the late 70s, early
(21:10):
80s and then they had a few thatpeople were thinking OK, maybe
the B-52 should hang it up.
And then they come out withCosmic Thing and it's like, oh
yes, they're back.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, I mean in their defense.
It's really tough to be able todo that party, just kind of
different sound of music, for along time.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
And be successful with your popularity you know,
and I think that you're right.
I mean, this album came out andyou're like man, I've missed
the B-52s.
Because, you're right, they didhave some lean years.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, and also they lost Ricky Wilson, their guitar
player, and then KeithStrickland was the drummer and
he moved over to guitar and theyjust got like a sitting-in kind
of session player guy to playthe drums.
So the B-52s are really justfour people now and they used to
be five and they had to kind ofreinvent themselves to work
(22:02):
without Ricky.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, and I think he only played some songs with, you
know, not the full six strings,I think that you know.
I heard that sometimes heplayed some of the songs with
less than six strings becausethat's the way he could get the
sound that he wanted to get.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
He got such incredible sounds and some of
the things that he plays as aguitar player.
I'm wondering did he play thatall at once or did he have to
play the one part on the lowstrings and the part on the high
strings separately, because hewas very precise and you know
just all these like if youlisten to something like private
idaho you know, it's, it's justgot all these very precise
(22:40):
notes in it and, uh, he was.
He was incredible yeah, greatband.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
All of them are great in what you know they brought
to the band to make them whatthey are.
You know they needed everysingle one of those pieces and
they all fit perfectly.
And it all started, you know,not here but very close to here,
in Athens, ga.
Recently I went to see KevinKinney of Driving and Crying and
(23:06):
Peter Buck of REM do a showtogether in Athens actually and
we're waiting for the show tobegin and a mutual friend of
ours, robert, he's sitting nextto me and he says something I
don't remember exactly, butsomething like what's Bill Barry
up to these days?
Because we're seeing Peter Buck.
(23:29):
You know I've talked aboutseeing Mike Mills with Gang of
Four and you know he's doingsome other projects.
And you know I've talked aboutseeing Mike Mills with Gang of
Four and you know he's doingsome other projects.
And you know he just waswondering what is Bill Barry up
to?
And you know I didn't reallysay much.
You know, I'm not sure whatever, bill Barry being the REM
(23:50):
drummer, I guess I need to saythat the REM drummer, and like
five minutes later, don't?
You know Bill Barry, sitsbehind us, two people down from
where Robert is.
And I said to him immediatelydon't turn around.
And he goes.
I said don't turn around, butBill Barry is sitting there.
He goes.
No, he's not.
I said he is.
(24:11):
This is literally like fiveminutes after he asked me about
that.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
He conjured up Bill Barry.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And I remember because I looked first and then
I was staring and then he justkind of looked at me and I'm
like that's Bill Barry.
You know, that's him Right.
And it was just so funnysometimes how things work out.
You mentioned something andthen boom, like you said there,
he is there, he is.
And then, you know, we turnedaround and then maybe five
(24:39):
minutes later we turned he wasgone.
He didn't play with them,nothing.
I guess he just came to watchthe show and see what it was
about, and it was interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Made an appearance.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Made an appearance.
Let's revisit some more goodmusic, because that's what we do
here.
On Music in my Shoes Crosby,stills, nash, young, teacher
Children.
It peaked at number 16 onBillboard Hot 100, july 25th
1970.
I remember this song from earlyelementary school years Not
(25:12):
1970, but not long after Likethis is one of those songs, like
one of the first songs I canremember hearing.
So it just holds a little placein my heart.
While it's a Crosby, stills andNash and Young album, neil
Young's not on it.
It was recorded before he gotwith them on this particular
(25:35):
album but that's Jerry Garcia ofthe Grateful Dead on pedal
steel guitar right from theget-go.
Oh, so to return the favor, theband worked with members of the
Grateful Dead teaching them howto sing harmonies for the
(25:55):
Working Man's Dead album, whichwe talked about a bunch of
episodes ago, and AmericanBeauty, which we'll talk about
in November.
And if you listen to those twoalbums, they're the only albums
that really have seriousharmonies where you could say,
yeah, that does remind me alittle bit of crossbeast stills,
nash and young.
(26:17):
So I always thought that thatwas pretty cool and I remember,
like the first day that I foundout that that was jerry garcia
and I was like I have loved thissong.
It's one of the first songsthat I've ever known in my life,
but I didn't know that it wasJerry Garcia until I was
30-something years old.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, I don't think I knew until right now.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
There you go.
You were this many days old andthat's zero.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
They must have had to really corral him in because
it's not all noodley going onfor 45 minutes like he is live.
You know it's concise littleguitar parts.
I mean, I can think of theguitar part in my head right now
.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, I think it was because he needed them to teach
them how to sing harmonies.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He's like I'll do whatever you want me to do.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I don't need any money.
You don't even have to say Idid it, just help us.
Tick, tick, tick.
It's Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for a minute withjimmy.
Minute with jimmy.
Minute with jimmy.
It's time for a minute withjimmy minute with jimmy when it
was jimmy.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
So I went to a movie the other night called this is
spinal tap, you know, from 1984.
For some reason they did a 41stanniversary tour of it instead
of a 40th, uh, but they put itinto theaters a couple weeks ago
for about a week and various,you know, select theaters around
the country, and so I asked myson and my wife if they wanted
to go see it and turned outthey've never seen it.
(27:45):
I'm very, you know, a deficientdad and husband for never
having played spinal tap forthem.
My daughter did watch it withme once, but they said they'd
never seen it.
So we go to the theater and I'mwondering okay, how's this
going to hold up?
I probably literally saw themovie 50 to 100 times when I was
in high school.
We would just watch that overat people's houses all the time.
(28:05):
We knew every line from it soit's hard for me to be objective
, but really they really likedit.
Like it got a bunch of laughsfrom them and from other people
in the theater that may or maynot have known it, and yeah, I
really liked it too.
It holds up.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
It's funny that they do things like that.
So, Jimmy, did you see itoriginally in a movie theater or
only at someone's house?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I think this was the first time I ever saw it in a
theater.
Yeah, Really.
Yeah, because the first time Isaw it was over at my older
brother's house and he hadrented it on a VHS, you know,
back then, so it must've beenout of theaters by then.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Well, speaking of out of theaters, and you're out of
time with Minute, with Jimmy,why don't we go just a little
bit longer?
Just give a quick littlepremise, a little plot of what
goes on in the movie.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So this Is Spinal Tap is really kind of the first
mockumentary that I know ofwhere they made a fake
documentary about a fake bandthat is a hard rock band from
England and it's supposed to beabout following their big
comeback, their their next tour,but really what it ends up
(29:17):
documenting is their fall.
They're already starting tolose popularity, and then
there's infighting and there areall these comedic things that
happen along the way and they,they kind of get down to to rock
bottom and I don't want to giveeverything away, but yeah, yeah
, a lot of, a lot of funnythings, a lot of really great
(29:37):
songs that they, they wrote.
It's Christopher Guest andMichael McKeon and Harry Shearer
are the three main guys in theband and so they're just comic
geniuses and it spawned allthose other mockumentaries that
came from sort of the samenucleus of of people.
Rob Reiner directed it, so allthe movies like Best in Show and
(30:01):
A Mighty Wind and lots ofothers came from that same crew.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Very good.
Hey, can you turn it up to 11for me?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Oh yeah.
So that's one of the thingsthat I thought most people the
first time they see Spinal Tap.
That's the one joke they comeaway with.
Their amps go.
Instead of just going to 10,they go to 11.
And Rob Reiner says, well, whydon't you just make 10 the
loudest number and make that alittle louder?
And he says, well, these go to11.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
It is still funny.
I mean it really is thereaction of why?
Because it goes to 11.
I mean, rob Reiner makes allthe sense in the world with the
question, but the answer isgreat.
Now, what I find is kind ofcool about the movie is, as time
has gone on you know, we're 41years since the movie there's
(30:57):
all of these heavy metal bandsthat say that this scene was,
you know, inspired by us or thiswas about us, and it's so funny
that everybody wants to be partof it in some way or another.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, and one of the things that they say, especially
Christopher Guest's character,nigel Tufnel, was pretty much
directly based on Jeff Beck.
So when Jeff Beck passed away,I think it was either last year,
I think it was last year.
Videos went around ofinterviews with Jeff Beck from
the 70s that just looked exactlylike the interviews in Spinal
(31:33):
Tap.
You know, he's chewing gum, he'ssmoking a cigarette, he's
saying things that are a littlebit goofy but very deep.
He talks a lot about musicalstyles and jazz and classical
and everything, and then a lotof times is just playing heavy
rock.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Right, well, that was cool, jimmy.
That was a very good fewminutes with Jimmy.
It was worth it, definitelyworth it.
Now I'm turning it up to 11.
Everybody turn it up to 11,because we're getting close to
the end here.
When it was Jimmy, summer Loveby Friends of the Show APB was
the WLIR Screamer of the Week,second week of July 1985.
(32:15):
One of my favorite songs by APBGreat bass, groove, great song,
jimmy.
It's hard to believe it's been54 episodes since Ian and George
joined us on Music in my Shoes,so right a little over a year
ago yeah.
That's how quickly time goes.
It really really goes.
That was fun.
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Check that out, if you guys haven't.
You know the listeners.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yes, please do.
Apb is really good and you know, if you like 80s, you know
danceable, funky bass andeverything.
Apb is the band for you.
Listen, if you want to reachout to us not just about going
up to 11, it could be going tovolume five.
If that's all you want to us,not just about going up to 11.
It could be going to Volume 5.
If that's all you want to do,you can reach us at
musicinmyshoes at gmailcom.
(33:00):
Please like and follow theMusic in my Shoes Facebook and
Instagram pages and share thepodcast with your friends.
That's it for Episode 88 ofMusic in my Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of
Arcade 160 Studios located herein Atlanta, georgia, and Vic
Thrill for our podcast music andthose who are successful.
(33:24):
Be always on your guard.
Success walks hand in hand withfailure along Hollywood
Boulevard.
This is Jim Boge, and I hopeyou learned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
Thank you.
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