August 10, 2025 • 34 mins
We welcome special guest Lucy, who attended The Beatles' historic concert at Atlanta Stadium on August 18, 1965, sharing her firsthand experience of Beatlemania and still treasuring her original ticket stub nearly 60 years later.
• Discussion of the Beatles' film "Help!" including its madcap adventure plot and innovative music videos
• Deep dive into the Atlanta Stadium concert, the only Beatles show in the city
• Lucy reveals that despite having good seats, the constant screaming made it impossible to hear any of the music
• Lucy and her friend's post-concert adventure trying to catch another glimpse of the Beatles in the stadium tunnels
• Reflections on growing up alongside the Beatles' evolving music and the heartbreak felt when the band broke up
• Discussion of Lucy's later experiences seeing Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr in concert
• The Beatles' music as a unique cultural connector spanning multiple generations
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, this is Lucy and I was fortunate to be able
to see the Beatles at AtlantaStadium August 18th 1965, at
8.15 pm with my friend Betty,and you today are fortunate to
be listening to Music in myShoes.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Bogeand you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 91.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something.
Old Help, I need old Help.
I need somebody Help, not justanybody.
(01:10):
Help, you know, I need someoneHelp, help, help.
The Beatles movie was releasedin the US on August 11th 1965,
and the soundtrack album cameout two days later, on August
(01:32):
13th.
Now, this is kind of like a andI don't usually use all these
words, but it kind of, I think,describes like a madcap zany
adventure comedy type thing.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You agree?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, that's what the movie was right.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, I think so 100% At times, with a little bit of
a James Bond feel.
So it kind of had everything itwas fun, it was funny, it was
enjoyable.
So the film revolves around aring missing from an attempted
sacrifice, and the ring is foundon where else but Ringo Starr's
(02:14):
finger?
Oh, yeah.
Ringo oh, wearing all the ringsMm-hmm Bingo on his hand.
The would-be sacrificers try toget the ring back from Ringo.
And you know the Beatles asthey go from country to country
I mean they're in England andthen they're in Austria, then
(02:38):
they're in the Bahamas.
Somehow you always have thesewould-be sacrificers looking for
them, as well as some madscientists who were looking for
them because they wanted to getin on the adventures as well.
One of the things that cracksme up is that you have these
things going on and then all ofa sudden a Beatles video, a
(03:02):
Beatles music video, just bustsout and they just play a song
and it's like watching an MTVvideo and it has nothing to do.
Usually it doesn't haveanything to do with what's going
on in the movie.
I can think of a couple oftimes it does, but for the most
part it's not and it just makesme laugh.
(03:22):
But at the same time, like,these are some pretty cool
videos.
You know I kind of like them.
I do enjoy the music videos,like I said, whether it's Help
the Night Before, theDylan-esque You've Got to Hide
your Love Away, georgeHarrison's song I Need you, and
that video was filmed in a fieldwith a bunch of tanks so this
(03:45):
did actually have to do with thefilm had some military men and
a bunch of tanks around themtrying to protect them so that
they can't get Ringo's hand toget the ring off of it.
Another girl was filmed in theBahamas and it's just kind of
cool, you know.
They just kind of make the bestof everything as they're
(04:06):
playing Ticket to Ride, filmedin Austria, and this is really a
great video and I think this isthe best video of them all.
I think this is kind of likethe highlight of the movie and
they're skiing.
You know Austria has snow.
They're kind of on these things.
They kind of look like a snowbike or a ski bike.
(04:28):
Do you know what I'm talkingabout, jimmy Snowmobile?
No, no, it's like an actualmanual thing but instead of
wheels it has skis, so it haslike a ski at the front and kind
of like two skis on the sideand they would just kind of go
down the mountain on it.
But that video was just awesome.
(04:49):
Before the Help movie wasreleased, ticket to Ride had
peaked at number one onBillboard May 22nd of 65.
And the last of the videos.
You're going to lose that girl.
So the working title of thefilm was Eight Arms to Hold you
and it was changed to Help,because it was easier to write a
(05:10):
title song with the word helpthan Eight Arms to Hold you.
They tried and it get this.
Roy Kinnear, a mad scientist, inHelp played Henry Salt, the
(05:34):
father of Veruca Salt, in themovie Willy Wonka and the
Chocolate Factory.
How's that for six degrees ofseparation, mm-hmm.
So John wrote the majority ofthe song Help, and he kind of
realized that some of the wordswere describing how he
personally felt at the time,kind of being trapped in this
(05:59):
rock star life and you couldn'tnecessarily go out, believe it
or not.
When they would go places therewould be people screaming and
trying to mob them.
Help me, if you can.
I'm feeling down and I doappreciate you being round.
Help me get my feet back on theground, won't you please,
(06:21):
please, help me.
Song peaked at number one onthe Billboard Hot 100 in
September 1965, 60 years ago.
As I've mentioned before,beatles albums were
significantly different betweenthe UK and the US Capitol
Records versions.
The Capitol Records version hadthe seven songs that I just
(06:44):
mentioned, plus instrumentalsthat were played during the
movie by either some sort ofband.
They had sitars, orchestras,whatever it might be things that
came from the film, so itreally was like a soundtrack.
The UK had the seven songs onside one of the album and then
(07:05):
on side two had seven more songsthat were not on the American
version.
But those other songs includedit's Only Love I've Just Seen a
Face which were on Rubber Soul,and Yesterday, one of the
biggest Beatles songs of alltime, which was on Yesterday and
Today.
Two albums after Help, butthat's a story for another
(07:29):
episode.
We'll get into that at somepoint.
All right, wow, the album coverwas John, paul, george and
Ringo standing with their arms,in a way as if they were holding
flags, and you think that itspells help?
I thought it was, honestly, youknow, I probably thought it for
(07:52):
25 years that that's whatspelled help, but that is not
the case.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
They were doing the YMCA dance.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well, basically, if you spell help it doesn't look
visually right.
So they had them do differentletters so that it looked good.
So on the UK cover of the albumit spells not H-E-L-P but
N-U-J-V.
Okay, because nothing says helplike N-U-J-V.
(08:22):
Okay, and on the CapitolRecords it was N-V-U-J.
They use a different picturewith them in a different setup.
Fun comedy, good music, stillgood after all these years.
So we talked all about Help,the album, the movie.
(08:48):
We probably talked so muchabout it it's more than we
needed to Jimmy.
So let's move on.
But let's stay with the Beatles.
So August 15th 1965, rightafter both the movie and the
album came out, the Beatles playShea Stadium in New York City,
in Queens.
Movie and the album came out.
The Beatles play Shea Stadium inNew York City, in Queens, and
at the time 55,000 people thelargest crowd to see a concert.
(09:10):
Oh, really, nobody heard it.
But they saw, you know, theycould see, couldn't hear a thing
that was going on.
But what's cool is they'veactually documented it.
You can watch a film and seewhat took place.
And it's kind of neat becausethe guy that drove them I think
you know to the stage from likewherever they were at one point
(09:32):
is also the same guy that drovePaul McCartney when Paul
McCartney helped close out ChaseStadium in 2008 with Billy Joel
, and it was the same guy.
This guy named Pete Flynn, whoworked for the New York Mets.
He worked there, I think like42 years or something, but what
are the odds?
He drove the Beatles and thenhe drives Paul McCartney all
those years later.
(09:52):
That's full circle.
That is full circle.
It really is.
So we are here in Atlanta musicin my shoes, we broadcast live
here in Atlanta and we actuallywant to talk about the Beatles
playing at Atlanta Stadium,which was three days after the
show in New York City, andAtlanta Stadium became known as
(10:17):
Atlanta.
Fulton County Stadium is aplace that the Atlanta Braves
used to play.
Atlanta Falcons used to playthere.
It was a brand new stadium in1965.
And we are lucky enough to havesomeone that was actually in
the audience that night, one ofthe 34,000 people to see the
Beatles and hear the Beatles.
(10:38):
We have Lucy Sermon with us.
Lucy, welcome to Music in myShoes, welcome.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Thank you, I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Hey, you know what?
We are really glad, we'reexcited.
We've been talking about havingyou on the show and someone
that has seen something that themajority of people haven't seen
.
So, before we get into the show, did you watch them on Ed
Sullivan?
What kind of Beatle fan wereyou?
How did you get to know aboutthem?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well, I first listened to their music I Want
to Hold your Hand.
She Loves you, and that waseven before they were on the Ed
Sullivan Show.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So you can bet I was sitting in front of that
television both those Sundaynights.
They were there two weeks in arow, I was there listening and
remained a Beatles fan for thenext 60 odd years.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I can understand why the Beatles are my favorite band
.
We've talked about them manytimes on the show or
individually.
We've talked about them.
You never can talk about themenough in my mind.
So who did you go with to theshow?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I went with my friend Betty Kaczmurski-Ruffner.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Wow, you remember her full name too, that is great,
we are still friends.
Really.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yes, I called her this afternoon and told her I
was going to be on the show,just to see if she remembered
anything.
I didn't, and she did rememberone fact, but I'll tell you that
later.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
All right, well, that sounds good.
So how much were the ticketsback then?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
The tickets were $5.50.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Oh, I see something in your hand.
Is that an actual ticket stub?
Yes, that is my actual ticketstub.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Now we might think $5.50 is not a big deal, but I
did a little bit of research anda loaf of bread was 21 cents in
1965.
The federal minimum wage perhour was $1.25 before taxes and
the average salary was $2 inAtlanta at that time.
(12:43):
So if you were making aboveminimum wage you probably made
$2 an hour before taxes.
So asking my dad for $5.50 togo to a concert in Atlanta was
not a light thing to do.
It was serious.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, I think we take that for granted.
That $5.50 sounds like nothing,but it depends on when you're
spending it, like Lucy said.
Yes, so one of the cool thingsI know people can't see the
ticket, but it actually has apicture of the band on the front
.
It's kind of a big ticket.
It's pretty cool looking.
How have you managed to save it?
(13:22):
Like 60 years you had to alwaysknow where it was.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, I had a lot of Beatles memorabilia that I'm
ashamed to say that I got rid ofwhen I got older, but this
ticket I just could not partwith.
So it has been in my jewelrybox all these years and probably
y'all it's my son's inheritancebecause he loves the Beatles as
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much as I do.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Well good for him.
I like that.
I like that.
So you mentioned about yourfather having to ask him for
money.
What did your parents think ofthe Beatles?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
They were okay with the Beatles.
They did not complain about thelong hair.
I think my dad, who was amusician himself, liked the
music.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And I did not have any trouble convincing them that
the Beatles were a worthwhileconcert to go to.
That's good, parents and 50cents.
And Betty sent for the ticketsand you did not get to pick your
seat, you just got mailed backwhatever seat they gave you.
(14:32):
But we were lucky in our seatplacement.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, so back then you had to actually mail in,
probably fill out a form sayingyou know, I want two tickets.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
And that was were you sitting?
Where were you sitting lower,high?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
We were about midway up.
We had a good seat in theAtlanta Stadium.
We could see they weren't theBeatles, weren't right at us,
but we could see them.
They weren't little ants.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
We could recognize them and know who they were did
they fill the whole stadium orwas were certain sections not
not filled?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
As far as I know, they filled the whole stadium
with 30-something thousandscreaming girls mostly.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Was it mostly girls?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Mostly girls, yes, so .
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I listened to the show last night and that's one
of the things I like to do.
I like to go and listen.
So I found it on the Internetand listened and when the girls
screamed it was unbelievable.
We've all seen things with theBeatles and hear stuff, but it
was just insane how loud it got,and so it was mostly girls that
(15:48):
were there.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yes, and it was deafening.
After the concert leaving thestadium, I could not hear for a
little while, I don't know howlong, but just the roar in my
head was still going on becauseit was nonstop screaming.
Well, they did stop one timeand Betty hollered Paul and she
(16:12):
swears to this day that PaulMcCartney looked at her.
I'm sure he did.
Yeah, I'm sure that he did.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Now were you screaming, Lucy.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I'm really not a screamer, so I just observed.
I was just watching everything,just enjoying being there, just
living the good life at 13years old in the good life at 13
years old.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
My mother-in-law is about the same age and she has a
twin sister and they didn't getto see the Beatles.
But they went to the Beatlesmovies and she said the girls
would scream in the movietheater and that her twin sister
screamed so much that shepassed out at the movie.
So it was definitely.
Beatlemania was a very realthing.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yes, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
It was so different than everything that had
happened really up until thatpoint.
And I think things weredifferent in the 60s, a little
bit different than when Elvisfirst started.
People were a little bit moreaccepting of rock and roll than
when Elvis Presley had firstcome out.
But you're right, no matterwhat you watch, when it has to
(17:20):
do with the Beatles, thescreaming is absolutely insane.
It really is.
So could you actually hear thesongs?
Could you sing along with it?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
No, no, I don't.
I don't remember hearing thesongs at all.
See, like I said, everybody'sseen them.
I don't, I don't rememberhearing the songs at all.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah see, like I said , everybody's seen them.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Not many have heard them, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
So what are your favorite Beatles songs?
I know you mentioned a fewsongs from the beginning, but
you know when you look throughtheir whole catalog what are
your favorite songs.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
In my Life Something Nowhere, man Twist and Shout.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I do like some of the more rock and Twist and Shout
is what they opened up the showwith.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yes, not that I heard it.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
One of the interesting things about the
show is that they actually hadmonitors on stage for the
Beatles and it was one of thefew shows they actually could
hear themselves and most showsthey would play.
They were just really goodmusicians, really good at what
they did.
They could just play and nothave to hear.
But in Atlanta they actuallyhad some monitors and could kind
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of hear what was going on.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I did a little research.
You mentioned the monitors herein.
Atlanta that the people ofAtlanta brought in, and they
were 500, I don't know what youcall it, watts or whatever.
Paul McCartney now uses 300,000watts in his show.
I mean, that's a big differencein the sound.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
That sure is.
They said it was one of thebiggest sound systems ever used
in a concert at the time.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, I think they wanted the Beatles to come to
the new stadium.
They wanted to market the newstadium and they wanted it to be
something that people wouldwant to come here.
The Braves still weren't here,they were still in Milwaukee and
they were just getting someconcerts.
I believe the Rolling Stonesended up playing in November.
(19:25):
A few other bands started tocome and play at Atlanta Stadium
, but it's a new thing.
You're looking for people to bepart of it, and what better way
than monitors Right?
Well, to be able to hear them.
And what better way thanmonitors Right.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well to be able to hear them.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yes, If you're not screaming, if they're not
screaming.
They didn't scream as much forthe Rolling Stones.
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
They weren't the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
And the management and the band liked the sound
system in Atlanta so much theytried to get them to tour with
them and they said, no, no,we're staying here.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Can you imagine that?
Nah, I don't want to tour withthe Beatles.
One of the things, though inall honesty, the tour was very
short.
I mean it was maybe a monthlong, but just a few cities
throughout the US.
I think Atlanta was the onlySouthern stop on the tour, so it
wasn't like a tour of musiciansthat you think of today.
(20:20):
A band goes on a US tour, it'sthree months.
They go on a world tour itcould be a year.
It was very, very small and nota lot of dates, and if they
already had jobs and things theyhad to do, I can understand why
they might not want to gotouring with them.
Right, that's true.
So what else about the show?
Like you know, getting there,and was there all kinds of
(20:42):
traffic or?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Well, Betty's parents took us.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Did Betty's parents go.
No, they did not go, and thisis the unknown fact that I'm
going to share now that Bettytold me this afternoon, while we
were in the concert, herparents went to Krispy Kreme.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh yeah, there you go .
Now, if some of our listenersare in the Northeast, they don't
know.
Krispy Kreme are the mostdelicious donuts on earth.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yes, and you want to get them.
When the sign says what hot orsomething?
Yeah, hot now, or something.
Yeah that's it.
I I I'm gonna be honest.
I love dunkin donuts.
I grew up on dunkin donuts, Ilove them.
But crispy, crispy cream justgets all over my hands and when
I eat having a beard, it's justnot the most conducive thing
(21:32):
okay, but they have napkins andyou know your hand washing for
that.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Enjoy it while you're eating it.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Let me tell you about what we did after the concert.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Betty and I, who you know, we hardly ever got in
trouble and didn't do anythingraucous or anything.
But we ran down to the tunnelat Atlanta Stadium thinking that
we're going to get to theBeatles' car.
So no security stopped us.
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We didn't see a whole crowd ofgirls going with us, so we went
down to the tunnels, went in thetunnel, looked around no cars
and we stayed there a fewminutes, met Betty's parents at
the assigned spot and Betty'smother says the Beatles car just
went by here a few minutes ago.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And Betty says did you touch their car?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And Betty says did you touch their car?
Yeah, you know, it's one ofthose things that you know, I've
seen Paul McCartney a few timesin concert and still when you
go to a show and it's like it'sPaul McCartney and it's, you
know, like this is insane.
You know, I've seen Ringo a fewtimes and my kids I've taken my
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kids We've seen Ringo, we'veseen Paul and it's kind of a
cool thing to do with the familythat they enjoy it.
You know as much as I do andyou know there's not a lot of
things I mean, if you thinkabout it, things that your
parents liked.
There's probably not a lot thatyou liked, that they liked and
that your kids liked.
That you like.
(23:18):
And you know, jimmy, the samefor you, the same for me.
But with the Beatles and I'vesaid it on the show before I
have a texting group with mygirls and it's called the
Beatles and you know it's justcool that we have that
connection and can enjoy it andit doesn't matter if it's 1965
or if it's 2025, you know we'reable to enjoy that.
(23:42):
So some of the songs you know Imentioned Twist and Shout.
They did.
She's a Woman, you know.
Paul McCartney sings it.
I Feel Fine.
Dizzy, miss Lizzy, ticket toRide one of my favorite songs.
Is there any song that youactually got to hear at all,
that you even heard snippetswhere you're like enjoying it?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
No.
But, I couldn't have been morepleased if I had heard them.
Just being there and seeingthem and being a part of this
group that screamed it was alife event.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Right, no, and it is.
I mean that's why you're on theshow, because it's a life event
that not a lot of people havehad the opportunity to be part
of.
Were there a lot of people thatyou went to school with at the
show?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
No, but since I've run into several that were there
that I went to school with, butit was summer, school was out
and Betty and I did not know whoelse might be in the crowd.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Right, yeah, definitely a different time from
the standpoint you didn't havecell phones and you're not
texting and you're not going onsocial media, nope.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You know, and it was probably back before
merchandising, where they didn'tsell t-shirts and things did
they.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
We did not buy any merch.
If they were selling itsomewhere, we didn't know where
it was.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Wow, really, yes, I can't even imagine that Isn't
that amazing.
Yeah, that's really amazing.
Like why would you not eventhink about doing that?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Rock and roll was a new thing.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And maybe the ticket was so high that we couldn't
have gotten the merchandiseanyway.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You know it's funny.
I went to a show the other day.
I bought a T-shirt.
The T-shirt was more than theticket.
That happens.
It really was more than theticket price, and it's funny
that you say that you know.
So what did you think aboutwhen the Beatles broke up?
I mean, you know, for you thatwas roughly about five years
later, so you would have beenabout 18 or so.
(25:47):
What kind of thoughts weregoing through your mind at that
point?
Heartbreak.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I was just brokenhearted.
You know, we grew up as theygrew up.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And their music evolved to be relevant to the
time, and when they broke up itwas like we lost our relevancy.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Gotcha.
Yeah, it makes sense.
I understand that I do so.
You know, in America theBeatles released.
It seemed like they releasedalbums every couple of months.
Were you always ready knowingit was coming out?
Yes, I need to buy it.
How much were records back then?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Probably $2.99, $3.99 .
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Which, again, was not a small amount of money.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
And they usually had an album come out before
Christmas, so that was aChristmas present like Rubber
Soul.
I remember getting Rubber Soulfor Christmas.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
That's a good one.
Yes, that's one of my favoritealbums.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, that is an excellent album.
It really is.
And a bunch of people that Iknow that aren't big Beatle fans
, they'll say to me what's yourfavorite album.
I'm like, no, you tell me yourfavorite album.
And so many people say RubberSoul, kind of in that crossroads
for them going from yeah, yeah,yeah to the Sgt Pepper days
(27:14):
that Rubber Soul is just a goodfeel right there, and Revolver
too after that was another steptowards that.
So did you ever get to seeanyone else?
Paul McCartney alone, or Ringo?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I've seen Paul McCartney about four times.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
The best time.
The one I enjoyed the most waswhen he was in Piedmont Park
right here in Atlanta.
It was a great concert.
It rained that day.
It was, you know.
We were soggy and wet, but Idon't know that anybody left the
concert when it rained.
We stayed to the bitter end.
(27:51):
My son, my daughter, was withme and we just had a great time.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
That's so great.
Again another family thing, Iknow I brought my kids they were
, I think, about 13 and 11 orsomething at the time and I
thought this is so cool thatthey get to see this guy that
back in 1964 was playing musicand they're going to live till
2064 and beyond and be able totell their kids they saw Paul
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McCartney.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yes, and I saw Ringo this past January at the Ryman
Theater in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Oh, ringo and Friends .
I think he was doing some ofthe country songs from his new
album.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yes, and he had some guests with him that performed,
but he played the drums on acouple of songs and he was great
.
You know, ringo's just gottenbetter through the years with
his drum playing.
I think he's a great drummer.
Oh yeah, he definitely is he is.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I mean, if you think about Ticket to Ride that I had
mentioned before, when youlisten to the I was listening to
it on the way here, I keptplaying it over and over and you
listen to the drums on thatsong and it's like this is just
so good.
How did they come up with thisin 1965?
It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
He had the backbeat.
He was playing against themelody of the guitars and doing
its own thing.
Sometimes, and a lot of times,he's just in the pocket just
making sure the song keeps goingalong.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
He's not trying to show off.
Yes, yeah, he's the anti-KeithMoon.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Did you have a favorite Beatle?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
It was a tie between Paul and John.
We had this little club atschool after the Beatles came
out and we all took one of thepersonalities.
I wasn't up there in my club,so I got Ringo, but I was just
happy to be in the club.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
That wasn't up there.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I'm sorry, ringo, I got Ringo.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I got the guy with the big nose.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Ringo, I wouldn't be so sad about that now, but yes,
we just had a great time withthe Beatles and it was great
growing up with them.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I'm sure.
What about your friend Betty?
What was her favorite Beatle?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Paul.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Hence screaming for Paul.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Oh right.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
And getting him to turn and look at her.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yes, yeah, in a stadium full of fans.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yes, and he looked just right at her.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I've thought the same thing when I was young and I
was seeing bands that are likethey're looking at me bands that
are like they're looking at me.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I've gone to shows where I just constantly take a
picture, so at some point theireyes might be moving, but you
get it, so it looks like they'relooking right at you, you know
17 pictures.
One of them looks like he'slooking right at me.
So I've done that before.
That's funny, it is funny.
So you know, I definitelyappreciate you coming in.
It's been exciting to talk tosomeone.
You know that's been atsomething that I wish that I
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could have seen.
The Beatles, you know, I thinkthat would be the coolest thing
to be part of that transition ofmusic.
And especially, you know, jfkhad just died in December of
1963, and then the Beatles cameand hit Ed Sullivan in early 64,
(31:18):
and then you had the bigstadium tours of 65 and 66, and
just not the Beatles but all themusic changing and you know,
just cool times.
I wish that I could have beenpart of that.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Were there other British Invasion bands that you
were interested in?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I listened to them all, like the Rolling Stones,
dave Clark Five, freddie and theDreamers and Herman's Hermits
and Peter and Gordon, and all ofthem just enjoyed all of them.
But Beatles were always thefirst.
But it is like you say aboutwhen President Kennedy was
assassinated there was asolemnness and maybe the Beatles
(32:04):
helped bring us some joy.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah, I think that it sounds like it.
You know, from different thingsI've watched.
You know documentaries anddifferent shows and even from
interviews with Ringo or withPaul, and I think that you're
right about that.
It was something that thecountry kind of needed at the
time.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I think so too.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah Well, we definitely appreciate you coming
in.
It's been a lot of fun.
It's been exciting Seeing aticket stub.
I'm actually going to get apicture of that Because, again,
to me it just means everything.
I love music.
It's one of the reasons that Ido the show.
I know Jimmy loves music andbeing able to see the ticket
stub and talk to someone thatwas there, and it's important
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enough that when I got incontact with you that you were
all about coming in and talkingabout it.
So I know it's important to youand it's really what the show
is all about.
You know the love of music andsharing it with people and you
know it's called Music in myShoes, but we just heard about
the Beatles in your shoes andthat's fantastic.
So thank you so much for comingin.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Thank you for asking me.
Oh, you're welcome, I'veenjoyed it.
Nice meeting you, lucy.
Thanks, nice meeting you too.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Thank you.
That was fantastic hearing allthat about the Beatles in
Atlanta 1965 with Lucy.
If you have any questions or ifyou saw the Beatles in 65 or 64
or any year and want to reachout to us, you can at
musicinmyshoes at gmailcom.
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That's it for episode 91 ofMusic in my Shoes.
I'd like to thank Lucy Sermonfor joining us today.
It was wonderful having herhere today.
It was just so much fun hearingsomeone that was actually at a
show Awesome yes, and JimmyGuthrie speaking of awesome.
It was just so much fun hearingsomeone that was actually at a
show Awesome yes.
And Jimmy Guthrie speaking ofawesome show producer and owner
(33:55):
of Arcade 160 Studios locatedhere in Atlanta, georgia, and
Vic Thrill for the podcast music.
This is Jim Boge, and I hopeyou learned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
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Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
Thank you.
Hello, this is Lucy and I was fortunate to be able
to see the Beatles at AtlantaStadium August 18th 1965, at
8.15 pm with my friend Betty,and you today are fortunate to
be listening to Music in myShoes.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Bogeand you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 91.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something.
Old Help, I need old Help.
I need somebody Help, not justanybody.
(01:10):
Help, you know, I need someoneHelp, help, help.
The Beatles movie was releasedin the US on August 11th 1965,
and the soundtrack album cameout two days later, on August
(01:32):
13th.
Now, this is kind of like a andI don't usually use all these
words, but it kind of, I think,describes like a madcap zany
adventure comedy type thing.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You agree?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, that's what the movie was right.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, I think so 100% At times, with a little bit of
a James Bond feel.
So it kind of had everything itwas fun, it was funny, it was
enjoyable.
So the film revolves around aring missing from an attempted
sacrifice, and the ring is foundon where else but Ringo Starr's
(02:14):
finger?
Oh, yeah.
Ringo oh, wearing all the ringsMm-hmm Bingo on his hand.
The would-be sacrificers try toget the ring back from Ringo.
And you know the Beatles asthey go from country to country
I mean they're in England andthen they're in Austria, then
(02:38):
they're in the Bahamas.
Somehow you always have thesewould-be sacrificers looking for
them, as well as some madscientists who were looking for
them because they wanted to getin on the adventures as well.
One of the things that cracksme up is that you have these
things going on and then all ofa sudden a Beatles video, a
(03:02):
Beatles music video, just bustsout and they just play a song
and it's like watching an MTVvideo and it has nothing to do.
Usually it doesn't haveanything to do with what's going
on in the movie.
I can think of a couple oftimes it does, but for the most
part it's not and it just makesme laugh.
(03:22):
But at the same time, like,these are some pretty cool
videos.
You know I kind of like them.
I do enjoy the music videos,like I said, whether it's Help
the Night Before, theDylan-esque You've Got to Hide
your Love Away, georgeHarrison's song I Need you, and
that video was filmed in a fieldwith a bunch of tanks so this
(03:45):
did actually have to do with thefilm had some military men and
a bunch of tanks around themtrying to protect them so that
they can't get Ringo's hand toget the ring off of it.
Another girl was filmed in theBahamas and it's just kind of
cool, you know.
They just kind of make the bestof everything as they're
(04:06):
playing Ticket to Ride, filmedin Austria, and this is really a
great video and I think this isthe best video of them all.
I think this is kind of likethe highlight of the movie and
they're skiing.
You know Austria has snow.
They're kind of on these things.
They kind of look like a snowbike or a ski bike.
(04:28):
Do you know what I'm talkingabout, jimmy Snowmobile?
No, no, it's like an actualmanual thing but instead of
wheels it has skis, so it haslike a ski at the front and kind
of like two skis on the sideand they would just kind of go
down the mountain on it.
But that video was just awesome.
(04:49):
Before the Help movie wasreleased, ticket to Ride had
peaked at number one onBillboard May 22nd of 65.
And the last of the videos.
You're going to lose that girl.
So the working title of thefilm was Eight Arms to Hold you
and it was changed to Help,because it was easier to write a
(05:10):
title song with the word helpthan Eight Arms to Hold you.
They tried and it get this.
Roy Kinnear, a mad scientist, inHelp played Henry Salt, the
(05:34):
father of Veruca Salt, in themovie Willy Wonka and the
Chocolate Factory.
How's that for six degrees ofseparation, mm-hmm.
So John wrote the majority ofthe song Help, and he kind of
realized that some of the wordswere describing how he
personally felt at the time,kind of being trapped in this
(05:59):
rock star life and you couldn'tnecessarily go out, believe it
or not.
When they would go places therewould be people screaming and
trying to mob them.
Help me, if you can.
I'm feeling down and I doappreciate you being round.
Help me get my feet back on theground, won't you please,
(06:21):
please, help me.
Song peaked at number one onthe Billboard Hot 100 in
September 1965, 60 years ago.
As I've mentioned before,beatles albums were
significantly different betweenthe UK and the US Capitol
Records versions.
The Capitol Records version hadthe seven songs that I just
(06:44):
mentioned, plus instrumentalsthat were played during the
movie by either some sort ofband.
They had sitars, orchestras,whatever it might be things that
came from the film, so itreally was like a soundtrack.
The UK had the seven songs onside one of the album and then
(07:05):
on side two had seven more songsthat were not on the American
version.
But those other songs includedit's Only Love I've Just Seen a
Face which were on Rubber Soul,and Yesterday, one of the
biggest Beatles songs of alltime, which was on Yesterday and
Today.
Two albums after Help, butthat's a story for another
(07:29):
episode.
We'll get into that at somepoint.
All right, wow, the album coverwas John, paul, george and
Ringo standing with their arms,in a way as if they were holding
flags, and you think that itspells help?
I thought it was, honestly, youknow, I probably thought it for
(07:52):
25 years that that's whatspelled help, but that is not
the case.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
They were doing the YMCA dance.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well, basically, if you spell help it doesn't look
visually right.
So they had them do differentletters so that it looked good.
So on the UK cover of the albumit spells not H-E-L-P but
N-U-J-V.
Okay, because nothing says helplike N-U-J-V.
(08:22):
Okay, and on the CapitolRecords it was N-V-U-J.
They use a different picturewith them in a different setup.
Fun comedy, good music, stillgood after all these years.
So we talked all about Help,the album, the movie.
(08:48):
We probably talked so muchabout it it's more than we
needed to Jimmy.
So let's move on.
But let's stay with the Beatles.
So August 15th 1965, rightafter both the movie and the
album came out, the Beatles playShea Stadium in New York City,
in Queens.
Movie and the album came out.
The Beatles play Shea Stadium inNew York City, in Queens, and
at the time 55,000 people thelargest crowd to see a concert.
(09:10):
Oh, really, nobody heard it.
But they saw, you know, theycould see, couldn't hear a thing
that was going on.
But what's cool is they'veactually documented it.
You can watch a film and seewhat took place.
And it's kind of neat becausethe guy that drove them I think
you know to the stage from likewherever they were at one point
(09:32):
is also the same guy that drovePaul McCartney when Paul
McCartney helped close out ChaseStadium in 2008 with Billy Joel
, and it was the same guy.
This guy named Pete Flynn, whoworked for the New York Mets.
He worked there, I think like42 years or something, but what
are the odds?
He drove the Beatles and thenhe drives Paul McCartney all
those years later.
(09:52):
That's full circle.
That is full circle.
It really is.
So we are here in Atlanta musicin my shoes, we broadcast live
here in Atlanta and we actuallywant to talk about the Beatles
playing at Atlanta Stadium,which was three days after the
show in New York City, andAtlanta Stadium became known as
(10:17):
Atlanta.
Fulton County Stadium is aplace that the Atlanta Braves
used to play.
Atlanta Falcons used to playthere.
It was a brand new stadium in1965.
And we are lucky enough to havesomeone that was actually in
the audience that night, one ofthe 34,000 people to see the
Beatles and hear the Beatles.
(10:38):
We have Lucy Sermon with us.
Lucy, welcome to Music in myShoes, welcome.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Thank you, I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Hey, you know what?
We are really glad, we'reexcited.
We've been talking about havingyou on the show and someone
that has seen something that themajority of people haven't seen
.
So, before we get into the show, did you watch them on Ed
Sullivan?
What kind of Beatle fan wereyou?
How did you get to know aboutthem?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well, I first listened to their music I Want
to Hold your Hand.
She Loves you, and that waseven before they were on the Ed
Sullivan Show.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So you can bet I was sitting in front of that
television both those Sundaynights.
They were there two weeks in arow, I was there listening and
remained a Beatles fan for thenext 60 odd years.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I can understand why the Beatles are my favorite band
.
We've talked about them manytimes on the show or
individually.
We've talked about them.
You never can talk about themenough in my mind.
So who did you go with to theshow?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I went with my friend Betty Kaczmurski-Ruffner.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Wow, you remember her full name too, that is great,
we are still friends.
Really.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yes, I called her this afternoon and told her I
was going to be on the show,just to see if she remembered
anything.
I didn't, and she did rememberone fact, but I'll tell you that
later.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
All right, well, that sounds good.
So how much were the ticketsback then?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
The tickets were $5.50.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Oh, I see something in your hand.
Is that an actual ticket stub?
Yes, that is my actual ticketstub.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Now we might think $5.50 is not a big deal, but I
did a little bit of research anda loaf of bread was 21 cents in
1965.
The federal minimum wage perhour was $1.25 before taxes and
the average salary was $2 inAtlanta at that time.
(12:43):
So if you were making aboveminimum wage you probably made
$2 an hour before taxes.
So asking my dad for $5.50 togo to a concert in Atlanta was
not a light thing to do.
It was serious.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, I think we take that for granted.
That $5.50 sounds like nothing,but it depends on when you're
spending it, like Lucy said.
Yes, so one of the cool thingsI know people can't see the
ticket, but it actually has apicture of the band on the front
.
It's kind of a big ticket.
It's pretty cool looking.
How have you managed to save it?
(13:22):
Like 60 years you had to alwaysknow where it was.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, I had a lot of Beatles memorabilia that I'm
ashamed to say that I got rid ofwhen I got older, but this
ticket I just could not partwith.
So it has been in my jewelrybox all these years and probably
y'all it's my son's inheritancebecause he loves the Beatles as
(13:47):
much as I do.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Well good for him.
I like that.
I like that.
So you mentioned about yourfather having to ask him for
money.
What did your parents think ofthe Beatles?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
They were okay with the Beatles.
They did not complain about thelong hair.
I think my dad, who was amusician himself, liked the
music.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And I did not have any trouble convincing them that
the Beatles were a worthwhileconcert to go to.
That's good, parents and 50cents.
And Betty sent for the ticketsand you did not get to pick your
seat, you just got mailed backwhatever seat they gave you.
(14:32):
But we were lucky in our seatplacement.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, so back then you had to actually mail in,
probably fill out a form sayingyou know, I want two tickets.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
And that was were you sitting?
Where were you sitting lower,high?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
We were about midway up.
We had a good seat in theAtlanta Stadium.
We could see they weren't theBeatles, weren't right at us,
but we could see them.
They weren't little ants.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
We could recognize them and know who they were did
they fill the whole stadium orwas were certain sections not
not filled?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
As far as I know, they filled the whole stadium
with 30-something thousandscreaming girls mostly.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Was it mostly girls?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Mostly girls, yes, so .
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I listened to the show last night and that's one
of the things I like to do.
I like to go and listen.
So I found it on the Internetand listened and when the girls
screamed it was unbelievable.
We've all seen things with theBeatles and hear stuff, but it
was just insane how loud it got,and so it was mostly girls that
(15:48):
were there.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yes, and it was deafening.
After the concert leaving thestadium, I could not hear for a
little while, I don't know howlong, but just the roar in my
head was still going on becauseit was nonstop screaming.
Well, they did stop one timeand Betty hollered Paul and she
(16:12):
swears to this day that PaulMcCartney looked at her.
I'm sure he did.
Yeah, I'm sure that he did.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Now were you screaming, Lucy.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I'm really not a screamer, so I just observed.
I was just watching everything,just enjoying being there, just
living the good life at 13years old in the good life at 13
years old.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
My mother-in-law is about the same age and she has a
twin sister and they didn't getto see the Beatles.
But they went to the Beatlesmovies and she said the girls
would scream in the movietheater and that her twin sister
screamed so much that shepassed out at the movie.
So it was definitely.
Beatlemania was a very realthing.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yes, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
It was so different than everything that had
happened really up until thatpoint.
And I think things weredifferent in the 60s, a little
bit different than when Elvisfirst started.
People were a little bit moreaccepting of rock and roll than
when Elvis Presley had firstcome out.
But you're right, no matterwhat you watch, when it has to
(17:20):
do with the Beatles, thescreaming is absolutely insane.
It really is.
So could you actually hear thesongs?
Could you sing along with it?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
No, no, I don't.
I don't remember hearing thesongs at all.
See, like I said, everybody'sseen them.
I don't, I don't rememberhearing the songs at all.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah see, like I said , everybody's seen them.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Not many have heard them, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
So what are your favorite Beatles songs?
I know you mentioned a fewsongs from the beginning, but
you know when you look throughtheir whole catalog what are
your favorite songs.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
In my Life Something Nowhere, man Twist and Shout.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I do like some of the more rock and Twist and Shout
is what they opened up the showwith.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yes, not that I heard it.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
One of the interesting things about the
show is that they actually hadmonitors on stage for the
Beatles and it was one of thefew shows they actually could
hear themselves and most showsthey would play.
They were just really goodmusicians, really good at what
they did.
They could just play and nothave to hear.
But in Atlanta they actuallyhad some monitors and could kind
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of hear what was going on.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I did a little research.
You mentioned the monitors herein.
Atlanta that the people ofAtlanta brought in, and they
were 500, I don't know what youcall it, watts or whatever.
Paul McCartney now uses 300,000watts in his show.
I mean, that's a big differencein the sound.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
That sure is.
They said it was one of thebiggest sound systems ever used
in a concert at the time.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, I think they wanted the Beatles to come to
the new stadium.
They wanted to market the newstadium and they wanted it to be
something that people wouldwant to come here.
The Braves still weren't here,they were still in Milwaukee and
they were just getting someconcerts.
I believe the Rolling Stonesended up playing in November.
(19:25):
A few other bands started tocome and play at Atlanta Stadium
, but it's a new thing.
You're looking for people to bepart of it, and what better way
than monitors Right?
Well, to be able to hear them.
And what better way thanmonitors Right.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well to be able to hear them.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yes, If you're not screaming, if they're not
screaming.
They didn't scream as much forthe Rolling Stones.
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
They weren't the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
And the management and the band liked the sound
system in Atlanta so much theytried to get them to tour with
them and they said, no, no,we're staying here.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Can you imagine that?
Nah, I don't want to tour withthe Beatles.
One of the things, though inall honesty, the tour was very
short.
I mean it was maybe a monthlong, but just a few cities
throughout the US.
I think Atlanta was the onlySouthern stop on the tour, so it
wasn't like a tour of musiciansthat you think of today.
(20:20):
A band goes on a US tour, it'sthree months.
They go on a world tour itcould be a year.
It was very, very small and nota lot of dates, and if they
already had jobs and things theyhad to do, I can understand why
they might not want to gotouring with them.
Right, that's true.
So what else about the show?
Like you know, getting there,and was there all kinds of
(20:42):
traffic or?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Well, Betty's parents took us.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Did Betty's parents go.
No, they did not go, and thisis the unknown fact that I'm
going to share now that Bettytold me this afternoon, while we
were in the concert, herparents went to Krispy Kreme.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh yeah, there you go .
Now, if some of our listenersare in the Northeast, they don't
know.
Krispy Kreme are the mostdelicious donuts on earth.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yes, and you want to get them.
When the sign says what hot orsomething?
Yeah, hot now, or something.
Yeah that's it.
I I I'm gonna be honest.
I love dunkin donuts.
I grew up on dunkin donuts, Ilove them.
But crispy, crispy cream justgets all over my hands and when
I eat having a beard, it's justnot the most conducive thing
(21:32):
okay, but they have napkins andyou know your hand washing for
that.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Enjoy it while you're eating it.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Let me tell you about what we did after the concert.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Betty and I, who you know, we hardly ever got in
trouble and didn't do anythingraucous or anything.
But we ran down to the tunnelat Atlanta Stadium thinking that
we're going to get to theBeatles' car.
So no security stopped us.
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We didn't see a whole crowd ofgirls going with us, so we went
down to the tunnels, went in thetunnel, looked around no cars
and we stayed there a fewminutes, met Betty's parents at
the assigned spot and Betty'smother says the Beatles car just
went by here a few minutes ago.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And Betty says did you touch their car?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And Betty says did you touch their car?
Yeah, you know, it's one ofthose things that you know, I've
seen Paul McCartney a few timesin concert and still when you
go to a show and it's like it'sPaul McCartney and it's, you
know, like this is insane.
You know, I've seen Ringo a fewtimes and my kids I've taken my
(22:57):
kids We've seen Ringo, we'veseen Paul and it's kind of a
cool thing to do with the familythat they enjoy it.
You know as much as I do andyou know there's not a lot of
things I mean, if you thinkabout it, things that your
parents liked.
There's probably not a lot thatyou liked, that they liked and
that your kids liked.
That you like.
(23:18):
And you know, jimmy, the samefor you, the same for me.
But with the Beatles and I'vesaid it on the show before I
have a texting group with mygirls and it's called the
Beatles and you know it's justcool that we have that
connection and can enjoy it andit doesn't matter if it's 1965
or if it's 2025, you know we'reable to enjoy that.
(23:42):
So some of the songs you know Imentioned Twist and Shout.
They did.
She's a Woman, you know.
Paul McCartney sings it.
I Feel Fine.
Dizzy, miss Lizzy, ticket toRide one of my favorite songs.
Is there any song that youactually got to hear at all,
that you even heard snippetswhere you're like enjoying it?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
No.
But, I couldn't have been morepleased if I had heard them.
Just being there and seeingthem and being a part of this
group that screamed it was alife event.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Right, no, and it is.
I mean that's why you're on theshow, because it's a life event
that not a lot of people havehad the opportunity to be part
of.
Were there a lot of people thatyou went to school with at the
show?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
No, but since I've run into several that were there
that I went to school with, butit was summer, school was out
and Betty and I did not know whoelse might be in the crowd.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Right, yeah, definitely a different time from
the standpoint you didn't havecell phones and you're not
texting and you're not going onsocial media, nope.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You know, and it was probably back before
merchandising, where they didn'tsell t-shirts and things did
they.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
We did not buy any merch.
If they were selling itsomewhere, we didn't know where
it was.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Wow, really, yes, I can't even imagine that Isn't
that amazing.
Yeah, that's really amazing.
Like why would you not eventhink about doing that?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Rock and roll was a new thing.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And maybe the ticket was so high that we couldn't
have gotten the merchandiseanyway.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You know it's funny.
I went to a show the other day.
I bought a T-shirt.
The T-shirt was more than theticket.
That happens.
It really was more than theticket price, and it's funny
that you say that you know.
So what did you think aboutwhen the Beatles broke up?
I mean, you know, for you thatwas roughly about five years
later, so you would have beenabout 18 or so.
(25:47):
What kind of thoughts weregoing through your mind at that
point?
Heartbreak.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I was just brokenhearted.
You know, we grew up as theygrew up.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And their music evolved to be relevant to the
time, and when they broke up itwas like we lost our relevancy.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Gotcha.
Yeah, it makes sense.
I understand that I do so.
You know, in America theBeatles released.
It seemed like they releasedalbums every couple of months.
Were you always ready knowingit was coming out?
Yes, I need to buy it.
How much were records back then?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Probably $2.99, $3.99 .
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Which, again, was not a small amount of money.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
And they usually had an album come out before
Christmas, so that was aChristmas present like Rubber
Soul.
I remember getting Rubber Soulfor Christmas.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
That's a good one.
Yes, that's one of my favoritealbums.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, that is an excellent album.
It really is.
And a bunch of people that Iknow that aren't big Beatle fans
, they'll say to me what's yourfavorite album.
I'm like, no, you tell me yourfavorite album.
And so many people say RubberSoul, kind of in that crossroads
for them going from yeah, yeah,yeah to the Sgt Pepper days
(27:14):
that Rubber Soul is just a goodfeel right there, and Revolver
too after that was another steptowards that.
So did you ever get to seeanyone else?
Paul McCartney alone, or Ringo?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I've seen Paul McCartney about four times.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
The best time.
The one I enjoyed the most waswhen he was in Piedmont Park
right here in Atlanta.
It was a great concert.
It rained that day.
It was, you know.
We were soggy and wet, but Idon't know that anybody left the
concert when it rained.
We stayed to the bitter end.
(27:51):
My son, my daughter, was withme and we just had a great time.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
That's so great.
Again another family thing, Iknow I brought my kids they were
, I think, about 13 and 11 orsomething at the time and I
thought this is so cool thatthey get to see this guy that
back in 1964 was playing musicand they're going to live till
2064 and beyond and be able totell their kids they saw Paul
(28:19):
McCartney.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yes, and I saw Ringo this past January at the Ryman
Theater in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Oh, ringo and Friends .
I think he was doing some ofthe country songs from his new
album.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yes, and he had some guests with him that performed,
but he played the drums on acouple of songs and he was great
.
You know, ringo's just gottenbetter through the years with
his drum playing.
I think he's a great drummer.
Oh yeah, he definitely is he is.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I mean, if you think about Ticket to Ride that I had
mentioned before, when youlisten to the I was listening to
it on the way here, I keptplaying it over and over and you
listen to the drums on thatsong and it's like this is just
so good.
How did they come up with thisin 1965?
It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
He had the backbeat.
He was playing against themelody of the guitars and doing
its own thing.
Sometimes, and a lot of times,he's just in the pocket just
making sure the song keeps goingalong.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
He's not trying to show off.
Yes, yeah, he's the anti-KeithMoon.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Did you have a favorite Beatle?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
It was a tie between Paul and John.
We had this little club atschool after the Beatles came
out and we all took one of thepersonalities.
I wasn't up there in my club,so I got Ringo, but I was just
happy to be in the club.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
That wasn't up there.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I'm sorry, ringo, I got Ringo.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I got the guy with the big nose.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Ringo, I wouldn't be so sad about that now, but yes,
we just had a great time withthe Beatles and it was great
growing up with them.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I'm sure.
What about your friend Betty?
What was her favorite Beatle?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Paul.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Hence screaming for Paul.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Oh right.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
And getting him to turn and look at her.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yes, yeah, in a stadium full of fans.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yes, and he looked just right at her.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I've thought the same thing when I was young and I
was seeing bands that are likethey're looking at me bands that
are like they're looking at me.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I've gone to shows where I just constantly take a
picture, so at some point theireyes might be moving, but you
get it, so it looks like they'relooking right at you, you know
17 pictures.
One of them looks like he'slooking right at me.
So I've done that before.
That's funny, it is funny.
So you know, I definitelyappreciate you coming in.
It's been exciting to talk tosomeone.
You know that's been atsomething that I wish that I
(30:58):
could have seen.
The Beatles, you know, I thinkthat would be the coolest thing
to be part of that transition ofmusic.
And especially, you know, jfkhad just died in December of
1963, and then the Beatles cameand hit Ed Sullivan in early 64,
(31:18):
and then you had the bigstadium tours of 65 and 66, and
just not the Beatles but all themusic changing and you know,
just cool times.
I wish that I could have beenpart of that.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Were there other British Invasion bands that you
were interested in?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I listened to them all, like the Rolling Stones,
dave Clark Five, freddie and theDreamers and Herman's Hermits
and Peter and Gordon, and all ofthem just enjoyed all of them.
But Beatles were always thefirst.
But it is like you say aboutwhen President Kennedy was
assassinated there was asolemnness and maybe the Beatles
(32:04):
helped bring us some joy.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah, I think that it sounds like it.
You know, from different thingsI've watched.
You know documentaries anddifferent shows and even from
interviews with Ringo or withPaul, and I think that you're
right about that.
It was something that thecountry kind of needed at the
time.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I think so too.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah Well, we definitely appreciate you coming
in.
It's been a lot of fun.
It's been exciting Seeing aticket stub.
I'm actually going to get apicture of that Because, again,
to me it just means everything.
I love music.
It's one of the reasons that Ido the show.
I know Jimmy loves music andbeing able to see the ticket
stub and talk to someone thatwas there, and it's important
(32:48):
enough that when I got incontact with you that you were
all about coming in and talkingabout it.
So I know it's important to youand it's really what the show
is all about.
You know the love of music andsharing it with people and you
know it's called Music in myShoes, but we just heard about
the Beatles in your shoes andthat's fantastic.
So thank you so much for comingin.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Thank you for asking me.
Oh, you're welcome, I'veenjoyed it.
Nice meeting you, lucy.
Thanks, nice meeting you too.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Thank you.
That was fantastic hearing allthat about the Beatles in
Atlanta 1965 with Lucy.
If you have any questions or ifyou saw the Beatles in 65 or 64
or any year and want to reachout to us, you can at
musicinmyshoes at gmailcom.
Please like and follow theMusic in my Shoes Facebook and
(33:35):
Instagram pages.
That's it for episode 91 ofMusic in my Shoes.
I'd like to thank Lucy Sermonfor joining us today.
It was wonderful having herhere today.
It was just so much fun hearingsomeone that was actually at a
show Awesome yes, and JimmyGuthrie speaking of awesome.
It was just so much fun hearingsomeone that was actually at a
show Awesome yes.
And Jimmy Guthrie speaking ofawesome show producer and owner
(33:55):
of Arcade 160 Studios locatedhere in Atlanta, georgia, and
Vic Thrill for the podcast music.
This is Jim Boge, and I hopeyou learned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
(34:16):
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
Thank you.
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