August 17, 2025 • 41 mins
There's something magical about a determined paperboy chasing John Cusack down, saying "I want my two dollars!" That's the power of an unforgettable movie moment - it sticks with you for decades. In this episode, I dive into why Johnny the Paperboy from 1985's "Better Off Dead" created one of cinema's most quotable running gags despite being just a minor character in the film.
But that's just the beginning of our musical journey. I share my recent rockstar encounter with Cheap Trick's legendary guitarist Rick Nielsen, who took time to reminisce over an old band photo I brought him to sign. There's nothing quite like watching a music legend examine his younger self and tell stories about the shoes he wore in 1977! And yes, he flipped the bird in our photo together - a true rock and roll moment I'll never forget.
The concert experiences continue as I recount seeing Cheap Trick open for Rod Stewart (who sounds incredible at 80!), connecting with podcast listeners at shows, and my adventure of turning lawn seats into something much better. We explore musical history with deep dives into Squeeze's 1985 comeback tour, Queen's landmark album "The Game" (their only US #1), and why The Cars' underappreciated "Panorama" album deserves another listen. Plus, Jimmy takes us back to 1955 to discover Big Maybel's original version of "Whole Lot of Shakin' Going On" before Jerry Lee Lewis made it famous.
Throughout our musical exploration, we discover how certain songs become time machines, instantly transporting us back to specific moments with friends, first listens, and the emotions attached to them. From $2 newspaper deliveries to multimillion-dollar rock tours, this episode celebrates how music connects our past to our present. Give it a listen, then share your own musical memories with us - we'd love to hear which songs define your life's soundtrack!
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 92.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new, newor remember something old.
So, jimmy, do you remember themovie Better Off Dead?
(00:52):
I don't think I saw it.
Wow, so many of ourconversations start off with
yeah, I haven't heard it.
I haven't seen it.
Well, it came out August 23rd1985.
All right, and it had a plot,but there was all these subplots
that went through the movie andI actually enjoyed one of the
subplots more than the wholerest of the movie.
(01:15):
So John Cusack was in it.
Did you know that part?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, I mean, now that you mention it, it rings a
bell.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Okay Played a guy named Lane Meyer.
You mentioned it rings a bell.
Okay Played a guy named LaneMeyer and it's a classic teen
film about boy has girl, boyloses, girl boy tries to win her
back All kinds of shenanigansthat go on with that happening.
That's what makes it a filmthat a lot of people want to go
(01:43):
to.
Okay, it's got some animation.
Except me, I guess.
Yes, except you, you don't ofpeople want to go to.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, it's got some animation, except me, I guess
yes, except you.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You don't seem to want to go to any of those films
.
I like the Goonies, but youdidn't see it until 40 years
after it came out, that's maybewhat I'll do with this one.
Oh, my Lord, have mercy.
So all these different thingsand there's some animation, so
kind of like this guy, laneMeyer, he'll draw, you know,
(02:09):
cartoon characters, kind of likea comic book thing and at times
it kind of comes to life and soforth.
A lot of different parts.
But my favorite scenes of themovie involve Johnny the
Paperboy, and he's probably 10years old or so in the movie,
this kid and all differentscenes and one you know he's
(02:33):
like throwing the newspaper andhe's always busting out the
garage door windows and the dadis trying to, you know, when he
knows the paperboys come andtrying to get the door up in
time.
So he can't do it and you knowit, just kind of quirky, little
funny things like that.
But he comes to the door oneday to get his money because he
(02:55):
can't get paid.
All right, back then thenewspaper boy would come to your
house or girl would come, theydeliver the paper and then at
the end of the week they wouldcome to collect.
I mean collect Every week.
I believe it was every week.
Wow, all right, maybe it wasevery two weeks.
Now that I think about it, thatmakes more sense with what I'm
about to say.
(03:16):
So at one point he rings thedoorbell.
John Cusack opens the door andsays Johnny, the paper boy in
like a mob hitman voice remember, he's like 10 years old says
four weeks, 20 papers, that's $2plus tip.
(03:38):
Four weeks, $2.
You can't buy a Sunday paperfor $2 now.
No, not at all, not even close,okay.
Cusack says gee, johnny, Idon't have a dime.
Sorry he's about to close thedoor.
Johnny the hitman newspaper guyputs his foot in so he can and
(03:59):
says didn't ask for a dime, $2.
And I saw it 40 years ago.
I have never forgotten it.
I just think it is the funniestthing.
Who's the actor?
He's not like a name brandperson.
I don't think he was in thebusiness long.
I think he went to do someother things I don't remember
off the top of my head.
(04:20):
So Cusack now follows up with.
Well, it's funny, see, my momhad to leave early to take my
brother to school and my dad towork because and Johnny
(04:40):
interrupts $2 cash his story.
The problem here is my littlebrother this morning got his arm
caught in the microwave and mygrandmother dropped acid and
freaked out and hijacked aschool bus full of penguins.
So it's kind of a family crisis.
So come back later and you know, he just finally slams the door
(05:11):
on this kid and I just thinkthat's funny, like hijacked a
school bus of penguins.
But what ends up happening isthat this movie's going on about
this boy, you know, losing hisgirl and then all of a sudden
out nowhere, you know, cusack'sdriving a car, an old station
wagon.
It kind of looked like the carfrom Family Vacation.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Oh Family Truckster.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, it kind of looked like that.
And all of a sudden Johnny's onthe roof and he peaks his head
down on the windshield and islike $2.
I want my $2.
And that happens throughout themovie and it's just my favorite
part.
So he's driving and Lane CusackLane Myers, played by John
(05:54):
Cusack he's trying to get himoff of the car and finally he
can't get him off.
He pulls into a car wash andJohnny's like something like
uh-oh, I can't swim, you know,like it's just stupid little
things.
Lane Myers, he's a a ski guy,you know, but that's part of the
(06:14):
whole film about his being ableto ski and he's a great skier,
all right.
And Johnny shows up on hisbicycle with skis.
You know, hey want my $2?
.
And it just cracks me upthroughout the whole film how
this happens.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And I mean, yeah, $2 was worth more in 1985 than it
is now, but it still wasn't muchmoney, Like anybody should have
been able to pay the poor kidtwo bucks.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, you know, I was a paperboy once.
I've mentioned it.
It seemed that like people allof a sudden weren't home.
When you would knock on theirdoor Not everybody, but a lot of
people, you know you'd hearthem, you'd hear the TV, you'd
hear things going on and theyjust didn't answer the door.
And I don't remember how muchit was when I was delivering.
(07:03):
It was 1980.
I think I delivered thenewspaper like 79, 80, 80, 81,
something like that, and itcouldn't have Actually I'm not
even sure it was $2 at thatpoint.
It might've even been less thatyou were hoping to get $2 with
tip, I don't remember.
(07:24):
But it's a cool movie, got alot of stuff going on.
Not one of John Cusack'sfavorite films.
When it came out he did say alot of things about it.
Now he's kind of backtracked abunch and saying, oh, everybody
says that, but you know it goesin a lot of different directions
.
He doesn't think it portrayshim in the best thing.
(07:44):
It's 40 years ago at this point.
Hey, who really cares?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
right, you know, I, I clearly don't no, you don't.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You don't at all, jimmy.
That's that we know for sure.
So we move on.
So I've got many questionsregarding my beard.
I've posted some pictures.
I've seen some listeners peopleasking what happened, how come
I don't have the full beard andit's kind of more of a big long
goatee.
So just wanted to kind of putout there and kind of like a
(08:13):
public service announcement.
You know, basal cell carcinomait's a lot worse sounding than
what it is.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, they have to add that second word in there,
like basal cell sounds kind ofnice.
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And then they put the other word and then it's like,
oh my Lord, what's going on?
It's really the most commontype of skin cancer, and so I
had some removed from my facewhere I needed to shave the
beard.
I wasn't going to shave oneside of my face and leave the
rest of it.
It would have looked a littlewacky, so I decided to go with
(08:46):
the long goatee.
Look for now, but use sunscreen, stay out of the sun, wear a
hat.
That's my public serviceannouncement to everybody.
All right, recently I got tomeet guitarist Rick Nielsen of
Cheap Trick and let me tell yousomething it was an absolute
(09:07):
treat.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Jimmy, that's great, more thanI could have ever imagined.
Okay, he's a legend, he reallyis.
So he was out, you know,signing and meeting people for
Rockin' Vodka that's his newbrand of vodka.
I don't know if it's new, but Iguess it's newer and he took his
(09:31):
time with every single personthat was there to meet him and
he kind of like he looked at allright, who is this?
Who's in front of me?
You know how do I act in frontof them.
Who is this who's in front ofme?
You know how do I act in frontof them and it was just
unbelievable.
At one point he needed a breakbecause he needed to use the
(09:52):
restroom.
And he goes and he uses therestroom and he comes back and
he comes right up to me and he'slike sorry, it's taken so long,
I had to use the bathroom.
He didn't actually say it thatway, but you know, basically he
was saying I had to use thebathroom.
So when I get up and spend sometime with him, I had printed a
(10:15):
picture at work for him to signand it was a cool black and
white picture of the band.
I could tell it was from theearly days and he took that
picture and he just was lookingat it and he started to tell me
everything about the picture.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Oh great.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And I'm like what year was it?
He goes it's 1977.
And he's pointing out his shoes.
He's like look, you know thesetennis shoes.
They had no arches, they wereflat.
He goes I loved wearing them.
So then he starts to show methe shoes he's got on.
Now I'm older, I have to weararches and I really like those
shoes.
And he was pointing everythingout and it was, you know,
(10:57):
looking at him as he's lookingat a piece of him.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm looking at him while he'slooking at him younger and
really reminiscing he was thegreatest guy.
It really was super cool.
So I mentioned that he looked atwhoever he was talking to and
(11:19):
you know certain people.
He would take pictures and it'dbe all cute and cuddly and a
thumbs up and blah, blah, blah,blah.
Well, with me.
You know he saw the podcastshirt.
He saw us talking.
My picture with him was givingthe bird.
He flipped the bird.
That was the picture that wetook and it's so funny.
I posted it.
So many people have said that'ssuch a cool picture.
(11:43):
And then other people that Iknow that were there were like I
wish he did that with me.
Hey, this is Rick Nielsen fromChew Trick and you're listening
to Music in my Shoes.
So I actually met a listener alistener named Gene at the
signing with Rick Nielsen andpulled me to the sign.
It was like hey, music in myShoes.
I listened and started tellingme about episodes that she
(12:05):
listened to and it was greatmeeting her.
I had a lot of fun and it wasexciting.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
How did she find out about the show?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I believe through a driving and crying Facebook
group yeah, cool yes.
So it was cool, very coolno-transcript.
(12:39):
And that night, because this iswhat I do with a lot of shows,
I go on the secondary market andI'm looking and checking things
out and I was like I'm finewith a lawn seat.
I'm not normally fine with alawn seat.
I haven't sat on the lawn indecades.
I'm not fine with that.
But I was fine this particularnight because I really wanted to
(13:01):
go after seeing Rick Nielsenthe night before.
So I finally you know it waslike $49 plus fees for the lawn.
If you went on the regularwebsite, I got $39.50 all in.
Oh good, got to Ameris and asyou go in, you walk in the lawn,
(13:23):
the people go to the right andthe people with the seats go to
the left and I pretendedstraighter to the left and I
pretended I knew what I wasdoing.
I went straight and I went tothe left and I went center and I
went up as far as I could and Igrabbed the seat, okay, and I
took a book out of your page.
You're like me at the U2 concertin 1985 yes, I was like you
(13:45):
know what most people are goingto be coming for Rod Stewart.
You know that's what my thoughtwas.
I was wrong.
It was pretty packed for CheapTrick and as they played I think
they played 12 songs orsomething you know more and more
people came.
I had to move at one point, butI only moved like two rows up
and got to see Cheap Trick fromthe seats.
(14:07):
So it was it was awesome, youknow $39 and 50 cents.
There's no parking fees there.
If you park in the regularparking, my t-shirt costs more
than my ticket, you know?
Yeah, that's just crazy.
That is kind of crazy you know,yeah, that's, that's crazy,
that is kind of crazy how much?
(14:27):
40 bucks, yeah, okay, yeah, itwas 40 bucks, so and that's a
good looking t-shirt, thank you,I thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I like it by the way, it's a single color, white
print on a black t-shirt, andit's 40 dollars.
But you know you're paying,it's, it's going to the band,
it's going to a good cause it isgoing to a good cause.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
It is going to a good cause.
So last time I saw Cheap Trickwas in 2019.
I saw them open up for ZZ Topat the same amphitheater.
It was an October night, if Iremember.
It was cold when I saw them inthat October, like wearing all
kinds of coats, it was drizzly.
Oh man, I remember that.
So I'm rocking in my seat.
(15:02):
I mean, I, literally.
I think people must have lookedat me like what's wrong with
him.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I mean, I was so pumped to be there.
You think that's an unusualthing for you?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
No, probably not, probably not.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Well, you should be used to it by now.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, I was super pumped.
I was like and I was waiting.
I'm going to be honest with you.
If anybody said anything, I wasgoing to show them a picture of
me and Rick Nielsen.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Oh yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Hey, this is me.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Say this is me and my uncle.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So the set included Hello there, ain't that a Shame.
Dream Police she's Tight In theStreet which is a big star.
Cover that 70s show song, right, I Want you to Want Me
Surrender, goodnight, you know,along with other songs.
Man, it was just great.
I'm glad that they embrace whothey are and play so many of the
(15:55):
classics.
It's a fun time.
It's like you can jam along asif you're listening to.
You know, at Budokan you knowfor a bunch of it and I'm fine
with that.
They're fine with that.
You know we're all, all right,they have a lot of hits.
They do, they do.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I mean the Flame.
They play that too, don't they?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I didn't mention that but yes, they did.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I've seen them before and I'm like, oh yeah, they did
, I've seen them before.
And I'm like, oh yeah, they didthis song.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, they did the flame.
So I hadn't seen Rod Stewartsince his 1991 tour, that's 34
years ago, and I got to behonest I was amazed at how good
he sounded.
He's 80 years old and his stagepresence and what they did with
(16:42):
the band and the backup singerswho played instruments.
It almost kind of looked like a60s variety show tour, like it
was kind of cool.
It was like a throwback and theway that they would dance and
do that it was cool.
It really was Really surprisedat how good he could sing.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well, and he did that songbook thing.
It's probably been 15, 20 yearsago, but he did a lot of the
old standards, right, and so didhe play any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, he did a mixture of everything from his
career, whether it was MaggieMae all the way up to Young
Turks, to the standards that heI mean he just really did a
whole bunch of stuff and wasable to put it in a way like the
order really made it work.
(17:33):
Okay, you know, I woulddefinitely go see him again.
I was really surprised.
It's good to hear, and what'sfunny is he's got that raspy
voice Right.
So you think that that would besomething that would be maybe a
detriment to him.
No, he sounds great, he reallydoes.
(17:53):
He's always had the raspy voice.
Yeah, but what I'm saying is hegets older, that it would get
super raspy, it wasn't.
So I love the 1981 song YoungTurks.
I've always loved it.
I loved the video when it cameout.
Everything about it.
Young hearts, be free.
Tonight.
Time is on your side.
Don't let them put you down,don't let them push you around,
(18:19):
don't let them change your pointof view.
I think those words arefantastic.
I absolutely love them.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And she gave birth to a 10-pound baby boy that would
be 44 years old now.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
There you go.
I don't think that's going tobe.
That might be in part two ofthe song, 44 years old right now
, but it was at 34, 1980, oh, no, 44.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You're right, I got you, didn't I yeah wow, you did
get me there.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I love the song, I love the video, like I said, and
that's one of those songs.
The video made me like itbecause it would be on MTV all
the time and you're watching it.
It was just kind of super cooland so forth, so I really liked
it.
So a week after I see all this,all this happens, I see
listener Jean again.
(19:07):
After I met her at the signingwith Rick Nielsen.
I see her at the Driving andCrying show in Marietta, georgia
the other night and talked toher before the show and it was
kind of cool.
She introduced me to somepeople and it's always of cool.
She introduced me to somepeople and you know it's always
fun to meet people that listento the show that I've not known
(19:28):
and you know that they'reexcited by it and you know it
was fun.
So Driving and Crying, frontedby a friend of the show, kevin
Kinney, I met a guy, jeff.
He sat next to me.
He flew in from Philadelphiafor the show.
Oh, so we've talked aboutdriving and crimes, not huge in
(19:49):
the Northeast.
He lives in Philadelphia, hegoes to shows.
That's what he does, he justtravels.
So they played in Richmond, Idon't know, maybe November, I
think he said it was.
He went to Richmond, virginia.
He came to Marietta.
I think the next night theywere playing Augusta, so he was
driving down there.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So he only follows Driving and Crying, or he
follows other bands.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
There were some other bands he talked about.
I don't remember off the top ofmy head, but he had this cool
recording device he gotpermission to bring in and he
recorded the show.
He says he records most of theshows he goes to.
He's going to send me a copy ofit.
He was definitely a big fan.
We talked about stuff.
It's always great to hearsomeone talk about the songs
(20:35):
that most people don't knowabout and it was fun.
I had a lot of good timelistening to him.
He didn't know about the show.
I sent him some links to theshows that Kevin Kinney was on
and he's listened to those andhe's listened to a bunch of
others as well.
So welcome Jeff to Music in myShoes.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
And shout-out to Gene too.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Shout-out to Gene.
Yes, so they did a cover of AllApologies with drummer Davey
Johnson singing.
It was super cool.
I have not seen Davey Johnsonsing before.
It was my first time.
And they did a tribute to Ozzywith a cover of Crazy Train
going right into the Driving andCrying song Fly Me Courageous.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Oh, come on, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, it was.
It was about nine and a halfminutes total when you do that.
And yeah, nobody, you know heis not Randy Rhoades.
He was out there just playingit as a tribute.
It was cool man, it was a lotof fun.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Right, because they don't have a lead guitarist
anymore.
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It's just Kevin playing all the guitar, yeah
that is correct.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It was good.
Though it was a crazy train, itwas a lot of fun.
Those people in Marietta,georgia, were excited for
driving and crying Good.
So, jimmy, back in 1985, summerof 85, august particular, I saw
Squeeze at the pier inManhattan August 15th, the
(22:06):
Nassau Coliseum August 17th, andthen back at the Pier on August
29th and I hadn't seen Squeezesince 82.
They were on a farewell tour.
I saw their last two shows ofthe farewell tour that they had
in America and they played twomore shows in Jamaica right
after I saw them and it wasgreat.
(22:27):
I mean, I really like Squeeze.
I've talked about them enoughon the show and it was just
something that I said.
You know what, if they evercome back, I'm going to go and
see them a bunch in case theybreak up again.
That was really what my thoughtprocess was.
So the two leaders of the band,chris Difford, glenn Tilbrook
(22:49):
they had released an album underthe name Difford and Tilbrook
in 84.
And then in 85, squeeze makesthis comeback that I'm talking
about and the single Last TimeForever was WLIR Screamer of the
Week the second week of June in1985.
Original keyboard player, julesHolland, who left the band in
(23:13):
80, was back and he plays pianoand it is absolutely outstanding
, his piano on Last Time Forever.
Absolutely outstanding, hispiano on Last Time Forever.
And it's one of those songs.
If he's not playing the pianoon that, I don't even know if I
remember the song.
Oh, okay, it is just, I loveJules Hollins.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I don't think I know that song.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
His piano playing is just unbelievable.
They don't play it in concertanymore, you know.
They kind of stopped, I think,once Jules was gone.
I saw them in 89 and theyplayed it Mm-hmm, and it just
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always was like man.
This is just crazy.
You know, back then people weresampling stuff and words from
movies and putting it in, but Inever expected Squeeze to have
something like that.
The album Cozy Fan, tuttiFrutti was released in August 85
.
And it had hits of the yearHeartbreaking, world by your
(24:29):
Side.
They're decent songs.
They're not necessarily theSqueeze that I had grown up
listening, you know loving butit was great to have them back.
It really was.
When you listen to the albumtoday it definitely sounds dated
, but it sounds like 1985 attimes.
You know, it sounds like a bandthat was just kind of taking
(24:52):
what was happening at the timeand incorporating it into their
music.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, I wonder if it was the producer that made it
sound like that, or if that'sthe direction that they wanted
to go, but they never reallysounded.
You know, prior to that, likelike the times, you know not at
all, they just had a uniquenessabout them.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, and then even their following album I think it
was Babylon and On that cameout in 87.
That was more back to thembeing them.
This here really was like ohyeah, that's Squeeze 1985.
There's no question about it.
So I said I went to the Squeezeshows, three of them in August
and again because I just wantedto see them.
(25:32):
I didn't want them to break upand I didn't go to the shows.
Besides the songs from thelatest album, they also play
classics like.
Another Nail in my Heart Isthat Love, inquintessence,
separate Beds, annie, get yourGun.
Pulling Muscles from a Shell,black Coffee in Bed, goodbye,
girl, tempted.
(25:52):
All three shows had that.
And that is exactly why I went,because I love those songs.
And If I Didn't Love you, upthe Junction they played them at
two of the shows and then theyplayed.
You know some odds and ends.
You know, to round outeverything, it was definitely
worth going to the three shows.
I just at the time hadn'treally done anything like that.
(26:14):
So to me, you know, I had seenU2 in 84 and then in 85, but I
had not gone to three shows inone month and I went with
different groups of people,which made it cool because it
was a whole different experienceeach time going to see them.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Was one of the shows the best experience each time.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
going to see them Was one of the shows the best, I
think, the first show at thepier just because it was like
three years since I had seenthem and the anticipation and
just hearing this stuff.
The Coliseum was cool becausewe kind of had a bunch of people
in my row and then a bunch ofpeople in the row behind us, so
a lot of friends, a lot ofpeople I graduated with that we
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had gone to squeeze shows backin the day, we were all together
and that was kind of cool.
So, I think the 29th wasprobably my least favorite of
the three, but definitely stillworth going.
So I mentioned the movie theShining.
It was released 45 years ago,in 1980 in May Absolute classic
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horror film.
About 15 years ago I went tothe Timberline Lodge on Mount
Hood in Oregon.
This is where some of theoutdoor scenes for the Shining
was shot, Not all of them.
This is not where the hedgesyou know the maze.
(27:38):
This is not that, this is theoutside of the lodge and those
big.
You know Scatman Crothers wasdriving like that big truck kind
of a snow thing.
Oh right, yeah truck kind of asnow thing.
Oh right, yeah, those are stillthere, oh really.
So I want to say it was eitherFebruary of March when I went On
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the ground not a stitch of snow, it was 40-something degrees
out.
And you start driving up MountHood and all of a sudden you hit
the snow line and the nextthing you know you're coming up
to places where they've plowedparking lots and the snow is
eight feet tall and you get tothe top.
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The ice has melted over so manytimes.
Where the ice is, it's almostlike sculptures on the ground
and well-rounded.
And it's almost like sculptureson the ground and well-rounded,
and it's a whole nother world.
From where we started Didn'ttake that long to get to the top
.
We ended up having lunch there.
It was super cool.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
And I guess they salt the roads or something.
So the ice sculptures aren'tinvolving traffic.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, so they do that .
And it's not ice sculptures,it's just, it's natural what
happens.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, that's the parking lot.
That's what you're walking onas you're going to go to the
lodge.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Okay, but you can still drive your car, yeah the
car you can.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
It's kind of like you get off and you know as you're
walking you're going on some ofthe stuff, on some of the stuff.
It's just super cool, jimmy, Iknow he says here's Johnny, but
I want to go with Tick, tick,tick.
It's Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy Minute.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
With Jimmy I'm going all the way back to 1955.
Whoa, I've done a littleexploring lately of old rock and
roll and what led to old rockand roll.
You know, elvis didn't justcome out of nowhere and, uh, one
of the great songs is bigmaybel in 1955 had a song called
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a whole lot of shaking going onand it was way different than
the version that jerry lee lewisput out a couple years later,
although you know that he gothis whole inspiration from her
version, but hers is slower,it's a little bit more kind of a
boogie woogie.
You know, slower, bluesy.
She had this big, booming voice.
(30:07):
Uh, that's why they called herbig may bell apparently.
And yeah, I just think it'sworth checking out if you want
to hear kind of where rock androll, the seeds of rock and roll
, started before Elvis Presleyand everybody kind of blew it up
yeah, Jimmy, you know a lot ofthose early songs.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
You're 100% correct, Somebody had recorded them.
They were a little bitdifferent and then, whether it
was Jerry Lee Lewis or BillHaley or Elvis or whoever kind
of, put their spin on it andalmost made it like it's their
song.
And it is cool going back tohear what the songs originally
sounded like.
You know, Shake, Rattle andRoll is another one where
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originally it's a little bitdifferent and you know it's cool
.
I love finding out about musicand you know those are the
origins of rock and roll, whichis one of the main things that
we talk about on Music In myShoes.
So that's definitely cool.
My name is Jimmy.
Hey, you know what?
On that note, let's revisitsome more music.
(31:16):
In my shoes they say we'reyoung and we don't know.
We won't find out until we'regrown.
Sonny and Cher's I Got you Babepeaked at number one for three
weeks.
August 14th 1965.
If we move to 1970, april 10th,elton John releases the Border
(31:38):
song and that's kind of like agospel-y, spiritual-type song
you know, different than theother songs that he releases.
It's the same album your songcame out on, but that song came
out later.
It was his first song in theHot 100, billboard Hot 100, and
it peaked at number 92.
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Aretha Franklin covered thesong later in the year and she
reached number 37 on BillboardHot 100.
And it's a pretty cool song.
I still like listening to it.
It's a good early Elton Johnsong.
He didn't have the Elton Johnband, he just had some different
people that would play withthem.
I don't even think there wasbass or anything like that on
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there, it was just some coolstuff.
Queen the game the album comesout June 30th 1980.
My favorite Queen album and Iknow people think that I don't
like Queen because I said thatU2 to me was a far better live
performance at Live Aid.
I like Queen.
(32:42):
My favorite album is Play theGame.
Well, the song is Play the Game, but the album the Game.
I actually had it on cassetteand it just brings me right back
to 1980.
I remember different things,different people.
I would be with, you know,hanging out and listening to the
cassette from beginning to end,flipping it over and then doing
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the same thing.
Album peaked at number one onBillboard's 200 albums in
September 1980.
It's Queen's only number onealbum in the US.
Wow, yes.
First single, crazy LittleThing Called Love, was released
in 79, reached number one onBillboard Hot 100 in February of
1980, their first US number one.
(33:27):
And this is like a 50s song.
Speaking of the 50s, jimmy.
This is to me it's like a 50ssong.
Speaking of the 50s, jimmy.
This is to me it's like a 50ssong, rockabilly sounding.
If you watch the video, freddieMercury looks kind of James
Dean-ish, I guess, in the filmand kind of does the guitar a
little Elvis style.
Great song.
(33:47):
I think this is a really goodsong, really like the video.
Play the game Peaked at number42 in July of 1980 on Billboard
With its chic-sounding bass line.
Another One Bites the Dust wasnumber one on Billboard in
October 1980.
I like the song, but I wish theydid something different with
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the middle of the song, likemaybe a guitar solo.
It's the the you know mostunlike queen song.
I don't think that brian maydoes any brian may guitar sounds
in it, true, um, but they hadsound effects that they created
with a guitar, they created witha piano.
They did some different things,but I just don't like that
middle and I never liked it.
(34:29):
I didn't like it when it cameout.
I still don't like it.
I wish that they never liked it.
I didn't like it when it cameout.
I still don't like it.
I wish that they had donesomething else with it.
But I like the song, all right.
This was their second and theirlast number one song in the US.
Can you believe that?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's crazy, it is Need your Loving Tonight reached
number 44 on Billboard in lateDecember 1980.
This is one of my favoritesongs of 1980.
I love this song.
Okay, it's a rocker, a powerpop rocker.
It's a shame more people don'tknow this song and I don't know
(35:05):
why.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
It is a great song I need to look it up because I
can't picture it please do.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You'll be like yeah, I know exactly what you're
talking about.
I don't want to feel like astranger.
No, because I'd rather stay outof danger.
I read your letter so manytimes.
I got your meaning between thelines.
I've been rocking to the songfor 45 years.
I need more people to do it,jimmy.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Okay, I'll join you.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I said I'd never be angry with you.
Dragon Attack, rocket, save Meall good songs on the album.
It's a really good album.
You really can listen to it.
You know beginning to end.
So did you know in the UK forCPR another one bites the dust
(35:52):
is what they say you should dofor compressions if you have to
do CPR, because I think it'slike 100 to 120 compressions and
I'm not joking, this is true.
This is like an official UKthing.
The only problem is that thesong title is another one bites
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the dust gonna ask about thatyou know it's just crazy, but
it's.
It's exactly what.
I watched multiple videos on it.
It was just funny watching themand I know it's not a funny
thing, but this is the song thatthey recommend.
Get it in your head, buy it orwhatever if you have to do cpr.
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Steve walks warily down thestreet with the brim pulled way
down low.
Did you know?
That's the first two lines ofthe song?
I had no idea.
I don't know if anybody warily.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Okay, I always thought it was merrily warily I
had.
No, I thought it was with thepeople way down low.
No, with the brim pulled waydown low.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Okay, yes, Up until a few months ago I had no idea,
none whatsoever.
And this is one of those songswhen you read the words you're
like that's not what I thoughtat all.
It is absolutely insane.
So the song is really kind oflike a mob hit.
You know we talked about BetterOff Dead and Johnny the
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Paperboy with his mob hitmanvoice.
That's what this song reallycomes down to being when you
read all the words and you startto sing it.
August 15th 1980, the CarsPanorama.
Not a very popular album forthe Cars, but it's one that I
really like.
I really enjoy this album.
I remember wanting to get it assoon as it came out and went to
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my local record store so Icould start playing.
The first three albums are kindof the same formula.
The first two albums were likepop rock and this album was kind
of like synth rock, less popand wasn't something that people
wanted to hear.
I think people were kind ofsick of the formula and that
(38:04):
they changed it in a way tobring in more fans.
They went the opposite way.
Remainder of the albums thatthey released to me are just all
pop.
Everything else was pop.
That's my thoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, that's probably true.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
First single, touch and Go, only reached number 37
in October 1980 on Billboard.
And then you said with me it'sTouch and Go, it's Touch and Go,
it's a great song.
That was something I waslistening to all, not all summer
, but half of the summer of 1980when it came out, and
throughout the fall.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
That's a classic car song.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Don't Tell Me no.
Released as a single inNovember and Gimme Some Slack.
Released in January 81, didn'teven chart.
I don't know how I want toshake like LaGuardia magic mouth
in the sun train.
Ride to the courtyard beforeyou can run.
I still can't believe thisdidn't chart.
(39:01):
I mean, I heard it on the radioenough.
It should have charted.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Oh, because it was on like LIR.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
No, lir was a different type of station at the
time, but it was on PLJ, it wason WNEW, but it was on PLJ, it
was on WNEW, it was on WBAB onLong Island.
I mean it was on the radio,just like the Queen song that I
was just talking about.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, you know, it's just crazy.
Maybe it was more you know NewYork City airplay than it was in
Peoria.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I guess.
So I played it all the time.
It's a fantastic album tolisten to from beginning to end.
I think I liked the record morethan my friends did, because I
would play it and a lot ofpeople would just come to my
house in the summer and wouldhang out there and I think they
wanted me to play other stuffbecause I'd play the whole thing
.
You know, I didn't play onesong, it just went all side A,
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boom, all side B, gettingthrough down, boys running to
you up and down.
I'll be honest, it takes meright back to 1980.
Check it out if you get achance, just give me some slack.
Yeah, just give me some slack.
Give me slack.
That's all I want is slack.
That didn't chart, but you canchart with us by reaching us at
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musicinmyshoes at gmailcom.
Please like and follow themusic in my shoes facebook and
instagram pages.
That's it for episode 92 ofmusic in my shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of
arcade160studios located here inAtlanta, georgia, and Vic
Thrill for our podcast music.
This is Jim Boge, show producerand owner of Arcade 160 Studios
located here in Atlanta,georgia, and Vic Thrill for our
podcast music.
This is Jim Boge, and I hopeyou learned something new or
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remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
I want my two dollars.
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 92.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new, newor remember something old.
So, jimmy, do you remember themovie Better Off Dead?
(00:52):
I don't think I saw it.
Wow, so many of ourconversations start off with
yeah, I haven't heard it.
I haven't seen it.
Well, it came out August 23rd1985.
All right, and it had a plot,but there was all these subplots
that went through the movie andI actually enjoyed one of the
subplots more than the wholerest of the movie.
(01:15):
So John Cusack was in it.
Did you know that part?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, I mean, now that you mention it, it rings a
bell.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Okay Played a guy named Lane Meyer.
You mentioned it rings a bell.
Okay Played a guy named LaneMeyer and it's a classic teen
film about boy has girl, boyloses, girl boy tries to win her
back All kinds of shenanigansthat go on with that happening.
That's what makes it a filmthat a lot of people want to go
(01:43):
to.
Okay, it's got some animation.
Except me, I guess.
Yes, except you, you don't ofpeople want to go to.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, it's got some animation, except me, I guess
yes, except you.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You don't seem to want to go to any of those films
.
I like the Goonies, but youdidn't see it until 40 years
after it came out, that's maybewhat I'll do with this one.
Oh, my Lord, have mercy.
So all these different thingsand there's some animation, so
kind of like this guy, laneMeyer, he'll draw, you know,
(02:09):
cartoon characters, kind of likea comic book thing and at times
it kind of comes to life and soforth.
A lot of different parts.
But my favorite scenes of themovie involve Johnny the
Paperboy, and he's probably 10years old or so in the movie,
this kid and all differentscenes and one you know he's
(02:33):
like throwing the newspaper andhe's always busting out the
garage door windows and the dadis trying to, you know, when he
knows the paperboys come andtrying to get the door up in
time.
So he can't do it and you knowit, just kind of quirky, little
funny things like that.
But he comes to the door oneday to get his money because he
(02:55):
can't get paid.
All right, back then thenewspaper boy would come to your
house or girl would come, theydeliver the paper and then at
the end of the week they wouldcome to collect.
I mean collect Every week.
I believe it was every week.
Wow, all right, maybe it wasevery two weeks.
Now that I think about it, thatmakes more sense with what I'm
about to say.
(03:16):
So at one point he rings thedoorbell.
John Cusack opens the door andsays Johnny, the paper boy in
like a mob hitman voice remember, he's like 10 years old says
four weeks, 20 papers, that's $2plus tip.
(03:38):
Four weeks, $2.
You can't buy a Sunday paperfor $2 now.
No, not at all, not even close,okay.
Cusack says gee, johnny, Idon't have a dime.
Sorry he's about to close thedoor.
Johnny the hitman newspaper guyputs his foot in so he can and
(03:59):
says didn't ask for a dime, $2.
And I saw it 40 years ago.
I have never forgotten it.
I just think it is the funniestthing.
Who's the actor?
He's not like a name brandperson.
I don't think he was in thebusiness long.
I think he went to do someother things I don't remember
off the top of my head.
(04:20):
So Cusack now follows up with.
Well, it's funny, see, my momhad to leave early to take my
brother to school and my dad towork because and Johnny
(04:40):
interrupts $2 cash his story.
The problem here is my littlebrother this morning got his arm
caught in the microwave and mygrandmother dropped acid and
freaked out and hijacked aschool bus full of penguins.
So it's kind of a family crisis.
So come back later and you know, he just finally slams the door
(05:11):
on this kid and I just thinkthat's funny, like hijacked a
school bus of penguins.
But what ends up happening isthat this movie's going on about
this boy, you know, losing hisgirl and then all of a sudden
out nowhere, you know, cusack'sdriving a car, an old station
wagon.
It kind of looked like the carfrom Family Vacation.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Oh Family Truckster.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, it kind of looked like that.
And all of a sudden Johnny's onthe roof and he peaks his head
down on the windshield and islike $2.
I want my $2.
And that happens throughout themovie and it's just my favorite
part.
So he's driving and Lane CusackLane Myers, played by John
(05:54):
Cusack he's trying to get himoff of the car and finally he
can't get him off.
He pulls into a car wash andJohnny's like something like
uh-oh, I can't swim, you know,like it's just stupid little
things.
Lane Myers, he's a a ski guy,you know, but that's part of the
(06:14):
whole film about his being ableto ski and he's a great skier,
all right.
And Johnny shows up on hisbicycle with skis.
You know, hey want my $2?
.
And it just cracks me upthroughout the whole film how
this happens.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And I mean, yeah, $2 was worth more in 1985 than it
is now, but it still wasn't muchmoney, Like anybody should have
been able to pay the poor kidtwo bucks.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, you know, I was a paperboy once.
I've mentioned it.
It seemed that like people allof a sudden weren't home.
When you would knock on theirdoor Not everybody, but a lot of
people, you know you'd hearthem, you'd hear the TV, you'd
hear things going on and theyjust didn't answer the door.
And I don't remember how muchit was when I was delivering.
(07:03):
It was 1980.
I think I delivered thenewspaper like 79, 80, 80, 81,
something like that, and itcouldn't have Actually I'm not
even sure it was $2 at thatpoint.
It might've even been less thatyou were hoping to get $2 with
tip, I don't remember.
(07:24):
But it's a cool movie, got alot of stuff going on.
Not one of John Cusack'sfavorite films.
When it came out he did say alot of things about it.
Now he's kind of backtracked abunch and saying, oh, everybody
says that, but you know it goesin a lot of different directions
.
He doesn't think it portrayshim in the best thing.
(07:44):
It's 40 years ago at this point.
Hey, who really cares?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
right, you know, I, I clearly don't no, you don't.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You don't at all, jimmy.
That's that we know for sure.
So we move on.
So I've got many questionsregarding my beard.
I've posted some pictures.
I've seen some listeners peopleasking what happened, how come
I don't have the full beard andit's kind of more of a big long
goatee.
So just wanted to kind of putout there and kind of like a
(08:13):
public service announcement.
You know, basal cell carcinomait's a lot worse sounding than
what it is.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, they have to add that second word in there,
like basal cell sounds kind ofnice.
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And then they put the other word and then it's like,
oh my Lord, what's going on?
It's really the most commontype of skin cancer, and so I
had some removed from my facewhere I needed to shave the
beard.
I wasn't going to shave oneside of my face and leave the
rest of it.
It would have looked a littlewacky, so I decided to go with
(08:46):
the long goatee.
Look for now, but use sunscreen, stay out of the sun, wear a
hat.
That's my public serviceannouncement to everybody.
All right, recently I got tomeet guitarist Rick Nielsen of
Cheap Trick and let me tell yousomething it was an absolute
(09:07):
treat.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Jimmy, that's great, more thanI could have ever imagined.
Okay, he's a legend, he reallyis.
So he was out, you know,signing and meeting people for
Rockin' Vodka that's his newbrand of vodka.
I don't know if it's new, but Iguess it's newer and he took his
(09:31):
time with every single personthat was there to meet him and
he kind of like he looked at allright, who is this?
Who's in front of me?
You know how do I act in frontof them.
Who is this who's in front ofme?
You know how do I act in frontof them and it was just
unbelievable.
At one point he needed a breakbecause he needed to use the
(09:52):
restroom.
And he goes and he uses therestroom and he comes back and
he comes right up to me and he'slike sorry, it's taken so long,
I had to use the bathroom.
He didn't actually say it thatway, but you know, basically he
was saying I had to use thebathroom.
So when I get up and spend sometime with him, I had printed a
(10:15):
picture at work for him to signand it was a cool black and
white picture of the band.
I could tell it was from theearly days and he took that
picture and he just was lookingat it and he started to tell me
everything about the picture.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Oh great.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And I'm like what year was it?
He goes it's 1977.
And he's pointing out his shoes.
He's like look, you know thesetennis shoes.
They had no arches, they wereflat.
He goes I loved wearing them.
So then he starts to show methe shoes he's got on.
Now I'm older, I have to weararches and I really like those
shoes.
And he was pointing everythingout and it was, you know,
(10:57):
looking at him as he's lookingat a piece of him.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm looking at him while he'slooking at him younger and
really reminiscing he was thegreatest guy.
It really was super cool.
So I mentioned that he looked atwhoever he was talking to and
(11:19):
you know certain people.
He would take pictures and it'dbe all cute and cuddly and a
thumbs up and blah, blah, blah,blah.
Well, with me.
You know he saw the podcastshirt.
He saw us talking.
My picture with him was givingthe bird.
He flipped the bird.
That was the picture that wetook and it's so funny.
I posted it.
So many people have said that'ssuch a cool picture.
(11:43):
And then other people that Iknow that were there were like I
wish he did that with me.
Hey, this is Rick Nielsen fromChew Trick and you're listening
to Music in my Shoes.
So I actually met a listener alistener named Gene at the
signing with Rick Nielsen andpulled me to the sign.
It was like hey, music in myShoes.
I listened and started tellingme about episodes that she
(12:05):
listened to and it was greatmeeting her.
I had a lot of fun and it wasexciting.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
How did she find out about the show?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I believe through a driving and crying Facebook
group yeah, cool yes.
So it was cool, very coolno-transcript.
(12:39):
And that night, because this iswhat I do with a lot of shows,
I go on the secondary market andI'm looking and checking things
out and I was like I'm finewith a lawn seat.
I'm not normally fine with alawn seat.
I haven't sat on the lawn indecades.
I'm not fine with that.
But I was fine this particularnight because I really wanted to
(13:01):
go after seeing Rick Nielsenthe night before.
So I finally you know it waslike $49 plus fees for the lawn.
If you went on the regularwebsite, I got $39.50 all in.
Oh good, got to Ameris and asyou go in, you walk in the lawn,
(13:23):
the people go to the right andthe people with the seats go to
the left and I pretendedstraighter to the left and I
pretended I knew what I wasdoing.
I went straight and I went tothe left and I went center and I
went up as far as I could and Igrabbed the seat, okay, and I
took a book out of your page.
You're like me at the U2 concertin 1985 yes, I was like you
(13:45):
know what most people are goingto be coming for Rod Stewart.
You know that's what my thoughtwas.
I was wrong.
It was pretty packed for CheapTrick and as they played I think
they played 12 songs orsomething you know more and more
people came.
I had to move at one point, butI only moved like two rows up
and got to see Cheap Trick fromthe seats.
(14:07):
So it was it was awesome, youknow $39 and 50 cents.
There's no parking fees there.
If you park in the regularparking, my t-shirt costs more
than my ticket, you know?
Yeah, that's just crazy.
That is kind of crazy you know,yeah, that's, that's crazy,
that is kind of crazy how much?
(14:27):
40 bucks, yeah, okay, yeah, itwas 40 bucks, so and that's a
good looking t-shirt, thank you,I thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I like it by the way, it's a single color, white
print on a black t-shirt, andit's 40 dollars.
But you know you're paying,it's, it's going to the band,
it's going to a good cause it isgoing to a good cause.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
It is going to a good cause.
So last time I saw Cheap Trickwas in 2019.
I saw them open up for ZZ Topat the same amphitheater.
It was an October night, if Iremember.
It was cold when I saw them inthat October, like wearing all
kinds of coats, it was drizzly.
Oh man, I remember that.
So I'm rocking in my seat.
(15:02):
I mean, I, literally.
I think people must have lookedat me like what's wrong with
him.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I mean, I was so pumped to be there.
You think that's an unusualthing for you?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
No, probably not, probably not.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Well, you should be used to it by now.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, I was super pumped.
I was like and I was waiting.
I'm going to be honest with you.
If anybody said anything, I wasgoing to show them a picture of
me and Rick Nielsen.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Oh yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Hey, this is me.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Say this is me and my uncle.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So the set included Hello there, ain't that a Shame.
Dream Police she's Tight In theStreet which is a big star.
Cover that 70s show song, right, I Want you to Want Me
Surrender, goodnight, you know,along with other songs.
Man, it was just great.
I'm glad that they embrace whothey are and play so many of the
(15:55):
classics.
It's a fun time.
It's like you can jam along asif you're listening to.
You know, at Budokan you knowfor a bunch of it and I'm fine
with that.
They're fine with that.
You know we're all, all right,they have a lot of hits.
They do, they do.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I mean the Flame.
They play that too, don't they?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I didn't mention that but yes, they did.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I've seen them before and I'm like, oh yeah, they did
, I've seen them before.
And I'm like, oh yeah, they didthis song.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, they did the flame.
So I hadn't seen Rod Stewartsince his 1991 tour, that's 34
years ago, and I got to behonest I was amazed at how good
he sounded.
He's 80 years old and his stagepresence and what they did with
(16:42):
the band and the backup singerswho played instruments.
It almost kind of looked like a60s variety show tour, like it
was kind of cool.
It was like a throwback and theway that they would dance and
do that it was cool.
It really was Really surprisedat how good he could sing.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well, and he did that songbook thing.
It's probably been 15, 20 yearsago, but he did a lot of the
old standards, right, and so didhe play any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, he did a mixture of everything from his
career, whether it was MaggieMae all the way up to Young
Turks, to the standards that heI mean he just really did a
whole bunch of stuff and wasable to put it in a way like the
order really made it work.
(17:33):
Okay, you know, I woulddefinitely go see him again.
I was really surprised.
It's good to hear, and what'sfunny is he's got that raspy
voice Right.
So you think that that would besomething that would be maybe a
detriment to him.
No, he sounds great, he reallydoes.
(17:53):
He's always had the raspy voice.
Yeah, but what I'm saying is hegets older, that it would get
super raspy, it wasn't.
So I love the 1981 song YoungTurks.
I've always loved it.
I loved the video when it cameout.
Everything about it.
Young hearts, be free.
Tonight.
Time is on your side.
Don't let them put you down,don't let them push you around,
(18:19):
don't let them change your pointof view.
I think those words arefantastic.
I absolutely love them.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And she gave birth to a 10-pound baby boy that would
be 44 years old now.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
There you go.
I don't think that's going tobe.
That might be in part two ofthe song, 44 years old right now
, but it was at 34, 1980, oh, no, 44.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You're right, I got you, didn't I yeah wow, you did
get me there.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I love the song, I love the video, like I said, and
that's one of those songs.
The video made me like itbecause it would be on MTV all
the time and you're watching it.
It was just kind of super cooland so forth, so I really liked
it.
So a week after I see all this,all this happens, I see
listener Jean again.
(19:07):
After I met her at the signingwith Rick Nielsen.
I see her at the Driving andCrying show in Marietta, georgia
the other night and talked toher before the show and it was
kind of cool.
She introduced me to somepeople and it's always of cool.
She introduced me to somepeople and you know it's always
fun to meet people that listento the show that I've not known
(19:28):
and you know that they'reexcited by it and you know it
was fun.
So Driving and Crying, frontedby a friend of the show, kevin
Kinney, I met a guy, jeff.
He sat next to me.
He flew in from Philadelphiafor the show.
Oh, so we've talked aboutdriving and crimes, not huge in
(19:49):
the Northeast.
He lives in Philadelphia, hegoes to shows.
That's what he does, he justtravels.
So they played in Richmond, Idon't know, maybe November, I
think he said it was.
He went to Richmond, virginia.
He came to Marietta.
I think the next night theywere playing Augusta, so he was
driving down there.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So he only follows Driving and Crying, or he
follows other bands.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
There were some other bands he talked about.
I don't remember off the top ofmy head, but he had this cool
recording device he gotpermission to bring in and he
recorded the show.
He says he records most of theshows he goes to.
He's going to send me a copy ofit.
He was definitely a big fan.
We talked about stuff.
It's always great to hearsomeone talk about the songs
(20:35):
that most people don't knowabout and it was fun.
I had a lot of good timelistening to him.
He didn't know about the show.
I sent him some links to theshows that Kevin Kinney was on
and he's listened to those andhe's listened to a bunch of
others as well.
So welcome Jeff to Music in myShoes.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
And shout-out to Gene too.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Shout-out to Gene.
Yes, so they did a cover of AllApologies with drummer Davey
Johnson singing.
It was super cool.
I have not seen Davey Johnsonsing before.
It was my first time.
And they did a tribute to Ozzywith a cover of Crazy Train
going right into the Driving andCrying song Fly Me Courageous.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Oh, come on, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, it was.
It was about nine and a halfminutes total when you do that.
And yeah, nobody, you know heis not Randy Rhoades.
He was out there just playingit as a tribute.
It was cool man, it was a lotof fun.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Right, because they don't have a lead guitarist
anymore.
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It's just Kevin playing all the guitar, yeah
that is correct.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It was good.
Though it was a crazy train, itwas a lot of fun.
Those people in Marietta,georgia, were excited for
driving and crying Good.
So, jimmy, back in 1985, summerof 85, august particular, I saw
Squeeze at the pier inManhattan August 15th, the
(22:06):
Nassau Coliseum August 17th, andthen back at the Pier on August
29th and I hadn't seen Squeezesince 82.
They were on a farewell tour.
I saw their last two shows ofthe farewell tour that they had
in America and they played twomore shows in Jamaica right
after I saw them and it wasgreat.
(22:27):
I mean, I really like Squeeze.
I've talked about them enoughon the show and it was just
something that I said.
You know what, if they evercome back, I'm going to go and
see them a bunch in case theybreak up again.
That was really what my thoughtprocess was.
So the two leaders of the band,chris Difford, glenn Tilbrook
(22:49):
they had released an album underthe name Difford and Tilbrook
in 84.
And then in 85, squeeze makesthis comeback that I'm talking
about and the single Last TimeForever was WLIR Screamer of the
Week the second week of June in1985.
Original keyboard player, julesHolland, who left the band in
(23:13):
80, was back and he plays pianoand it is absolutely outstanding
, his piano on Last Time Forever.
Absolutely outstanding, hispiano on Last Time Forever.
And it's one of those songs.
If he's not playing the pianoon that, I don't even know if I
remember the song.
Oh, okay, it is just, I loveJules Hollins.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I don't think I know that song.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
His piano playing is just unbelievable.
They don't play it in concertanymore, you know.
They kind of stopped, I think,once Jules was gone.
I saw them in 89 and theyplayed it Mm-hmm, and it just
(24:08):
always was like man.
This is just crazy.
You know, back then people weresampling stuff and words from
movies and putting it in, but Inever expected Squeeze to have
something like that.
The album Cozy Fan, tuttiFrutti was released in August 85
.
And it had hits of the yearHeartbreaking, world by your
(24:29):
Side.
They're decent songs.
They're not necessarily theSqueeze that I had grown up
listening, you know loving butit was great to have them back.
It really was.
When you listen to the albumtoday it definitely sounds dated
, but it sounds like 1985 attimes.
You know, it sounds like a bandthat was just kind of taking
(24:52):
what was happening at the timeand incorporating it into their
music.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, I wonder if it was the producer that made it
sound like that, or if that'sthe direction that they wanted
to go, but they never reallysounded.
You know, prior to that, likelike the times, you know not at
all, they just had a uniquenessabout them.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, and then even their following album I think it
was Babylon and On that cameout in 87.
That was more back to thembeing them.
This here really was like ohyeah, that's Squeeze 1985.
There's no question about it.
So I said I went to the Squeezeshows, three of them in August
and again because I just wantedto see them.
(25:32):
I didn't want them to break upand I didn't go to the shows.
Besides the songs from thelatest album, they also play
classics like.
Another Nail in my Heart Isthat Love, inquintessence,
separate Beds, annie, get yourGun.
Pulling Muscles from a Shell,black Coffee in Bed, goodbye,
girl, tempted.
(25:52):
All three shows had that.
And that is exactly why I went,because I love those songs.
And If I Didn't Love you, upthe Junction they played them at
two of the shows and then theyplayed.
You know some odds and ends.
You know, to round outeverything, it was definitely
worth going to the three shows.
I just at the time hadn'treally done anything like that.
(26:14):
So to me, you know, I had seenU2 in 84 and then in 85, but I
had not gone to three shows inone month and I went with
different groups of people,which made it cool because it
was a whole different experienceeach time going to see them.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Was one of the shows the best experience each time.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
going to see them Was one of the shows the best, I
think, the first show at thepier just because it was like
three years since I had seenthem and the anticipation and
just hearing this stuff.
The Coliseum was cool becausewe kind of had a bunch of people
in my row and then a bunch ofpeople in the row behind us, so
a lot of friends, a lot ofpeople I graduated with that we
(26:56):
had gone to squeeze shows backin the day, we were all together
and that was kind of cool.
So, I think the 29th wasprobably my least favorite of
the three, but definitely stillworth going.
So I mentioned the movie theShining.
It was released 45 years ago,in 1980 in May Absolute classic
(27:17):
horror film.
About 15 years ago I went tothe Timberline Lodge on Mount
Hood in Oregon.
This is where some of theoutdoor scenes for the Shining
was shot, Not all of them.
This is not where the hedgesyou know the maze.
(27:38):
This is not that, this is theoutside of the lodge and those
big.
You know Scatman Crothers wasdriving like that big truck kind
of a snow thing.
Oh right, yeah truck kind of asnow thing.
Oh right, yeah, those are stillthere, oh really.
So I want to say it was eitherFebruary of March when I went On
(28:00):
the ground not a stitch of snow, it was 40-something degrees
out.
And you start driving up MountHood and all of a sudden you hit
the snow line and the nextthing you know you're coming up
to places where they've plowedparking lots and the snow is
eight feet tall and you get tothe top.
(28:22):
The ice has melted over so manytimes.
Where the ice is, it's almostlike sculptures on the ground
and well-rounded.
And it's almost like sculptureson the ground and well-rounded,
and it's a whole nother world.
From where we started Didn'ttake that long to get to the top
.
We ended up having lunch there.
It was super cool.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
And I guess they salt the roads or something.
So the ice sculptures aren'tinvolving traffic.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, so they do that .
And it's not ice sculptures,it's just, it's natural what
happens.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, that's the parking lot.
That's what you're walking onas you're going to go to the
lodge.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Okay, but you can still drive your car, yeah the
car you can.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
It's kind of like you get off and you know as you're
walking you're going on some ofthe stuff, on some of the stuff.
It's just super cool, jimmy, Iknow he says here's Johnny, but
I want to go with Tick, tick,tick.
It's Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy Minute.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
With Jimmy I'm going all the way back to 1955.
Whoa, I've done a littleexploring lately of old rock and
roll and what led to old rockand roll.
You know, elvis didn't justcome out of nowhere and, uh, one
of the great songs is bigmaybel in 1955 had a song called
(29:46):
a whole lot of shaking going onand it was way different than
the version that jerry lee lewisput out a couple years later,
although you know that he gothis whole inspiration from her
version, but hers is slower,it's a little bit more kind of a
boogie woogie.
You know, slower, bluesy.
She had this big, booming voice.
(30:07):
Uh, that's why they called herbig may bell apparently.
And yeah, I just think it'sworth checking out if you want
to hear kind of where rock androll, the seeds of rock and roll
, started before Elvis Presleyand everybody kind of blew it up
yeah, Jimmy, you know a lot ofthose early songs.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
You're 100% correct, Somebody had recorded them.
They were a little bitdifferent and then, whether it
was Jerry Lee Lewis or BillHaley or Elvis or whoever kind
of, put their spin on it andalmost made it like it's their
song.
And it is cool going back tohear what the songs originally
sounded like.
You know, Shake, Rattle andRoll is another one where
(30:54):
originally it's a little bitdifferent and you know it's cool
.
I love finding out about musicand you know those are the
origins of rock and roll, whichis one of the main things that
we talk about on Music In myShoes.
So that's definitely cool.
My name is Jimmy.
Hey, you know what?
On that note, let's revisitsome more music.
(31:16):
In my shoes they say we'reyoung and we don't know.
We won't find out until we'regrown.
Sonny and Cher's I Got you Babepeaked at number one for three
weeks.
August 14th 1965.
If we move to 1970, april 10th,elton John releases the Border
(31:38):
song and that's kind of like agospel-y, spiritual-type song
you know, different than theother songs that he releases.
It's the same album your songcame out on, but that song came
out later.
It was his first song in theHot 100, billboard Hot 100, and
it peaked at number 92.
(32:00):
Aretha Franklin covered thesong later in the year and she
reached number 37 on BillboardHot 100.
And it's a pretty cool song.
I still like listening to it.
It's a good early Elton Johnsong.
He didn't have the Elton Johnband, he just had some different
people that would play withthem.
I don't even think there wasbass or anything like that on
(32:20):
there, it was just some coolstuff.
Queen the game the album comesout June 30th 1980.
My favorite Queen album and Iknow people think that I don't
like Queen because I said thatU2 to me was a far better live
performance at Live Aid.
I like Queen.
(32:42):
My favorite album is Play theGame.
Well, the song is Play the Game, but the album the Game.
I actually had it on cassetteand it just brings me right back
to 1980.
I remember different things,different people.
I would be with, you know,hanging out and listening to the
cassette from beginning to end,flipping it over and then doing
(33:05):
the same thing.
Album peaked at number one onBillboard's 200 albums in
September 1980.
It's Queen's only number onealbum in the US.
Wow, yes.
First single, crazy LittleThing Called Love, was released
in 79, reached number one onBillboard Hot 100 in February of
1980, their first US number one.
(33:27):
And this is like a 50s song.
Speaking of the 50s, jimmy.
This is to me it's like a 50ssong.
Speaking of the 50s, jimmy.
This is to me it's like a 50ssong, rockabilly sounding.
If you watch the video, freddieMercury looks kind of James
Dean-ish, I guess, in the filmand kind of does the guitar a
little Elvis style.
Great song.
(33:47):
I think this is a really goodsong, really like the video.
Play the game Peaked at number42 in July of 1980 on Billboard
With its chic-sounding bass line.
Another One Bites the Dust wasnumber one on Billboard in
October 1980.
I like the song, but I wish theydid something different with
(34:08):
the middle of the song, likemaybe a guitar solo.
It's the the you know mostunlike queen song.
I don't think that brian maydoes any brian may guitar sounds
in it, true, um, but they hadsound effects that they created
with a guitar, they created witha piano.
They did some different things,but I just don't like that
middle and I never liked it.
(34:29):
I didn't like it when it cameout.
I still don't like it.
I wish that they never liked it.
I didn't like it when it cameout.
I still don't like it.
I wish that they had donesomething else with it.
But I like the song, all right.
This was their second and theirlast number one song in the US.
Can you believe that?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's crazy, it is Need your Loving Tonight reached
number 44 on Billboard in lateDecember 1980.
This is one of my favoritesongs of 1980.
I love this song.
Okay, it's a rocker, a powerpop rocker.
It's a shame more people don'tknow this song and I don't know
(35:05):
why.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
It is a great song I need to look it up because I
can't picture it please do.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You'll be like yeah, I know exactly what you're
talking about.
I don't want to feel like astranger.
No, because I'd rather stay outof danger.
I read your letter so manytimes.
I got your meaning between thelines.
I've been rocking to the songfor 45 years.
I need more people to do it,jimmy.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Okay, I'll join you.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I said I'd never be angry with you.
Dragon Attack, rocket, save Meall good songs on the album.
It's a really good album.
You really can listen to it.
You know beginning to end.
So did you know in the UK forCPR another one bites the dust
(35:52):
is what they say you should dofor compressions if you have to
do CPR, because I think it'slike 100 to 120 compressions and
I'm not joking, this is true.
This is like an official UKthing.
The only problem is that thesong title is another one bites
(36:13):
the dust gonna ask about thatyou know it's just crazy, but
it's.
It's exactly what.
I watched multiple videos on it.
It was just funny watching themand I know it's not a funny
thing, but this is the song thatthey recommend.
Get it in your head, buy it orwhatever if you have to do cpr.
(36:33):
Steve walks warily down thestreet with the brim pulled way
down low.
Did you know?
That's the first two lines ofthe song?
I had no idea.
I don't know if anybody warily.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Okay, I always thought it was merrily warily I
had.
No, I thought it was with thepeople way down low.
No, with the brim pulled waydown low.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Okay, yes, Up until a few months ago I had no idea,
none whatsoever.
And this is one of those songswhen you read the words you're
like that's not what I thoughtat all.
It is absolutely insane.
So the song is really kind oflike a mob hit.
You know we talked about BetterOff Dead and Johnny the
(37:20):
Paperboy with his mob hitmanvoice.
That's what this song reallycomes down to being when you
read all the words and you startto sing it.
August 15th 1980, the CarsPanorama.
Not a very popular album forthe Cars, but it's one that I
really like.
I really enjoy this album.
I remember wanting to get it assoon as it came out and went to
(37:44):
my local record store so Icould start playing.
The first three albums are kindof the same formula.
The first two albums were likepop rock and this album was kind
of like synth rock, less popand wasn't something that people
wanted to hear.
I think people were kind ofsick of the formula and that
(38:04):
they changed it in a way tobring in more fans.
They went the opposite way.
Remainder of the albums thatthey released to me are just all
pop.
Everything else was pop.
That's my thoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, that's probably true.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
First single, touch and Go, only reached number 37
in October 1980 on Billboard.
And then you said with me it'sTouch and Go, it's Touch and Go,
it's a great song.
That was something I waslistening to all, not all summer
, but half of the summer of 1980when it came out, and
throughout the fall.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
That's a classic car song.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Don't Tell Me no.
Released as a single inNovember and Gimme Some Slack.
Released in January 81, didn'teven chart.
I don't know how I want toshake like LaGuardia magic mouth
in the sun train.
Ride to the courtyard beforeyou can run.
I still can't believe thisdidn't chart.
(39:01):
I mean, I heard it on the radioenough.
It should have charted.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Oh, because it was on like LIR.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
No, lir was a different type of station at the
time, but it was on PLJ, it wason WNEW, but it was on PLJ, it
was on WNEW, it was on WBAB onLong Island.
I mean it was on the radio,just like the Queen song that I
was just talking about.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, you know, it's just crazy.
Maybe it was more you know NewYork City airplay than it was in
Peoria.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I guess.
So I played it all the time.
It's a fantastic album tolisten to from beginning to end.
I think I liked the record morethan my friends did, because I
would play it and a lot ofpeople would just come to my
house in the summer and wouldhang out there and I think they
wanted me to play other stuffbecause I'd play the whole thing
.
You know, I didn't play onesong, it just went all side A,
(39:52):
boom, all side B, gettingthrough down, boys running to
you up and down.
I'll be honest, it takes meright back to 1980.
Check it out if you get achance, just give me some slack.
Yeah, just give me some slack.
Give me slack.
That's all I want is slack.
That didn't chart, but you canchart with us by reaching us at
(40:16):
musicinmyshoes at gmailcom.
Please like and follow themusic in my shoes facebook and
instagram pages.
That's it for episode 92 ofmusic in my shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of
arcade160studios located here inAtlanta, georgia, and Vic
Thrill for our podcast music.
This is Jim Boge, show producerand owner of Arcade 160 Studios
located here in Atlanta,georgia, and Vic Thrill for our
podcast music.
This is Jim Boge, and I hopeyou learned something new or
(40:39):
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
I want my two dollars.
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