September 7, 2025 • 41 mins
We dive into a musical time capsule exploring the Billboard Modern Rock tracks from September 16th, 1995, highlighting the songs that defined a generation and soundtracked a wedding day.
• Matthew Sweet's "Sick of Myself" featuring Television's Richard Lloyd on lead guitar
• Hole's "Softer, Softest" with Kurt Cobain on backing vocals, recorded in Marietta, Georgia
• Toadies' "Possum Kingdom" with its distinctive guitar opening and haunting lyrics
• Alanis Morissette's "You Oughta Know" featuring Dave Navarro and Flea as session musicians
• The story behind Tripping Daisy reluctantly releasing "I Got a Girl" as a single
• Silverchair claiming the #1 spot with "Tomorrow"
• The significance of 99X radio in Atlanta bringing alternative music to mainstream audiences
• Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" album celebrating its 50th anniversary
• The story behind the burning man on the "Wish You Were Here" album cover
• The Replacements' "Tim" album marking its 40th anniversary
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Bogeand you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 95.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
So, jimmy, keeping in trackkind of what I've done recently
(00:54):
episode 95, I'm going tohighlight songs from the
Billboard Modern Rock tracksfrom September 16th 1995.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh, really, yes, yeah , do you know what that is?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
September 16th 1995?
.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That's the day I got married.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I had no idea, Jimmy.
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Wow, yeah, we're coming up on 30 years.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, we're going to talk about the songs that were
popular in Modern Rock on yourwedding day.
All right, I didn't even knowthat.
This is my gift to you and yourwife.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
30 years later, you're so thoughtful.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
That's the way that I am.
That's the way I am.
So one thing I wanted to startoff with at this point I was
living down here in Atlantaabout five years and there was a
radio station that had beenlike a top 40 station and they
converted to modern alternativetype rock 99X.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, what was it called Power 99.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Power 99, and they switched.
I think it was about 1992 or so.
Yep, and all of these songsthat I'm going to talk about are
songs that I heard on 99X Firstand that they were primarily
99X songs.
There's some songs that youknow we'll talk about, that hit
Billboard Hot 100 number onesand so forth, but the majority
(02:15):
of these songs really are, youknow, 99X.
And when I look back 30 yearsago and what they were playing,
this is it.
You know, this is really whatit all comes down to.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, and like you've said, you know you had some
really great radio stations inLong Island and New York City
area as early as you know, thelate seventies.
We really only had as far asalternative music or whatever
you might've called it, you know, in the eighties eighties
alternative it was college rockand that was only on album 88,
(02:51):
or if you were in Athens, theyhad WUOG there but, um, it
didn't have a whole lot of range, so you couldn't pick up the
Athens station in Atlanta, andwhen 99 X came on the air it was
a breath of fresh air Like, ohwow, it's actually some music
that I want to listen to that'son commercial radio and we'd
never had that in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, and you hit the nail on the head.
When I moved here in 1990,between that time I moved here
and 99X came on the radio, I hadfriends making me cassettes of
WDRE up in New York and sendingme, or you know whatever type of
music they could send me fromdifferent stations.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Like a care package.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
A care package that I could listen to to keep up to
date with things that werehappening.
So let's get started.
Let's get right into it.
Number 39, matthew Sweet Sickof Myself.
A good guitar-driven song.
Do you know who played leadguitar?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
No, I always assumed it was Matthew Sweet.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Matthew Sweet actually didn't play lead guitar
.
In most of the songs he usuallyhad someone that was playing.
But Richard Lloyd of the bandTelevision, influential in punk
and they played at CBGB's backin the day and I just think it's
cool because it's a real coollead guitar part.
(04:12):
I mean Television most peoplehaven't heard of.
Really, if you think about it,most people probably haven't
heard of Richard Lloyd until I'mtalking about him now.
But so influential and thatband you know Tom Verlaine,
richard Hell, you know he wenton to Richard Hell and the
Voidoids and the drummer fromthe Ramones was in Richard Hell
(04:37):
and the Voidoids.
They had Blank Generation, Imean.
So this band television really,you know, not only did they do
stuff as themselves but oncethey broke apart and they went
in their own ways, reallyinfluential on so much music.
So it's really cool to seeRichard Lloyd with Matthew Sweet
because I love Sick of Myself,I love the guitar Especially.
(05:01):
It just never seems to end.
We've talked about that beforeand it's just cool, I like it, I
like it a lot.
Can't forget about matthewsweet.
You know he had a stroke inoctober of 2024.
He's still trying to recoverfrom it.
So you know we keep him in ourthoughts here.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, I wish him the best we do.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Number 38 you two withhold me, thrill me, kiss me,
kill me.
Talked about that song not thatlong ago.
38, u2 with Hold Me, thrill Me,kiss Me, kill Me.
Talked about that song not thatlong ago.
Number 37, softer, softest.
Now, this is a whole song andit's off the 1994 album Live
Through this and it's actuallyone of the songs that Kurt
(05:39):
Cobain helps do the chorus andit's towards the end of the song
and he sings along.
He only did it with two songs.
This is one of them and it wasactually recorded right here in
Marietta, georgia, back in theday.
I forget what the name of thestudio was.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Southern.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Tracks probably no, something Triclops I think it
was Triclops.
Yeah, Triclops, that's wherethe album was recorded, but
Triclops, I think it wasTriclops, yeah, triclops, that's
where the album was recorded.
But this is a cool song.
It is the beginning, most ofit's kind of soft kind of
ballady, which I know Courtneylove and hold.
That doesn't sound likesomething you would expect, but
(06:18):
then it just kind of getsrocking towards the end and it's
a good song, and Kurt had beengone for a year and a half at
that point.
Yeah, I had to think about mymath there.
But yes, you are correct andit's funny because you know
we've talked about this beforewhere an album comes out and
we'll talk about different songsthat made the charts at
(06:38):
different times.
This album came out in April of1994.
We're now talking aboutSeptember 1995, like you
mentioned, a year and a halflater and it has a song as
number 37 on the Modern Rocktracks.
Yeah, Number 36, Hum, with thesong Stars.
(06:59):
I hadn't heard this song inyears, Maybe even a couple of
decades, if I can be honest withyou.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I'm trying to picture it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So I'm driving the other day with a mutual friend
and the song comes on and Iforgot, like it begins with a
guitar and then it kind of stopsand you're like wait, did the
song just end, or is there more?
And then it kind of stops andyou're like wait, did the song
just end, or is there more?
And then it starts again andthen it gets a little louder and
(07:31):
then it kind of stops again.
You're like what?
And I forgot all about thissong and it was ironic.
Then the next day as I'mlooking up the modern rock
tracks, I'm like oh wow, that'sso funny, you know, because you
know we've talked about hearingsongs on my way here or leaving
here and that whatever we'retalking about on the show just
(07:53):
seems to pop up.
So it was just really reallybizarre for that.
So it's got these severalbeginnings.
It actually was played onBeavis and Butthead and they're
watching music videos and asthey're watching it they start
changing the channel becausethey think the song is over,
kind of like what I was justtalking about.
(08:15):
It's a pretty good song, youknow, I don't know how to
describe it or anything, butit's a grungy, you know.
Like I said, it kind of startsoff with this slow thing and
then it gets into it.
Most well-known song by Hum,Number 32, Collective Soul, the
(08:36):
song December.
Why drink the water from myhand?
Contagious as you think I am,Just tilt my sun towards your
domain.
Your cup runneth over again.
I just think those words are socool.
Start off this song.
It's one of my favoritecollective soul songs.
It made it to number 20 on theBillboard Hot 100 in September
(09:00):
95 also, so it was on twodifferent charts.
Why follow me to to higherground?
Lost as you swear I am and Ithink those lines that just so
cool that you know through yourlife, when people are kind of
doubting you and you're lost andthis and everything, but
they're still following you, youknow yeah, and I just think
(09:21):
that that was really cool.
Number 31, blues Traveler withRunaround, most well-known blues
traveler song.
It peaked earlier at numbereight on August 5th on the
Billboard Hot 100.
But you, why?
You want to give me a runaround?
Is it a surefire way to speedthings up when all it does is
(09:44):
slow me down?
Man, I love those words, jimmy,I love them.
Number 30, live all over you.
Number 28, sponge Molly 16Candles, a song named after
Molly Ringwald, one of the starsof the movie 16 Candles.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yep Saw that movie a lot of times, did you really I
did, because it came out when Iwas in like the ninth grade and
we would just go to that DollarMovie Theater and see it all
summer long.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I liked the Dollar Movie Theater when I was younger
.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Definitely gave us something to do.
One of the movies I saw wasFast Times at Ridgemont High.
Gave us something to do.
One of the movies I saw wasFast Times at Ridgemont High.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I saw that a ton of times at the Dollar Theater.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
And Porky's was the other one that I saw a ton at
the Dollar Theater.
Fast Times and 16 Candles holdup pretty well.
I don't know if Porky's does.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's the truth, though.
It reached number 55 on theBillboard Hot 100 in August 1995
.
I have no idea how it did it.
It's you know it's a decentsong, but I don't know how it
would appeal to that many of themasses to make it to number 55
on the countdown.
Don't Ask why.
16 Candles Down the Drain,Number 26, Dave Matthews Band,
(11:03):
Ants Marching.
It seemed like when that songcame out, everybody that was in
college, or everybody that wasin high school, absolutely loved
Dave Matthews, loved that song,and would play that thing
nonstop.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, I wasn't a fan, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I had a feeling you were going to say that I was
trying to lead up to that.
That was my guess.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
The big reveal.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
The big reveal here 25.
Toadies with Possum Kingdomthat's a good one, the opening
guitars are just fantastic.
And then make up your mind,decide to walk with me around
the lake tonight, around thelake tonight, by my side, wow.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
That's a fun song.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I think this is probably in my top 200 favorite
songs of all time.
All right, I really do.
I think it totally stands thetest of time.
It is just fantastic,everything about it the guitars,
the bass, the drums, thesinging, the words.
I mean every part of the song Iabsolutely love.
(12:15):
Number 24, tripping Daisy.
I Got a Girl, a song about thelead singer's girl at the time
and they didn't want to releasethe song as a single.
The record company wasinsisting on it their biggest
song ever and if they didn'trelease it most of us would have
(12:38):
no idea who Tripping Daisy is.
And basically the song is kindof like I got a girl and then
says something about her.
I got a girl, says somethingabout her.
I got a girl, says it's allabout his girl.
He ended up marrying her.
He has four kids with her, youknow.
But after they broke up theband Trippin' Daisy, the lead
(12:59):
singer started Polyphonic Spree.
Number 19, the ska punk soundof Rancid with Time Bomb Good
one.
I forgot about this song.
I played it and I was like Ijust totally forgot about it.
This is a good song.
It is.
It really is Number 18, a GirlLike you by Edwin Collins.
(13:20):
I've never known a girl likeyou before.
Now, just like in a song fromDays of Yore, here you come
knocking on my door.
Well, I've never met a girllike you before.
His voice reminds me of PeterMurphy from Bauhaus, very
(13:41):
similar to me, as he's singingAnytime that someone can put in
a popular song, days of Yore.
You've got me hooked rightthere.
And this was in the movieEmpire Records, oh yeah, which
the soundtrack, which actuallythat movie is hitting 30 years
(14:01):
Now that I think about it.
I think it came out inSeptember of 95.
Well, that would make sense 30in 95, sure, but definitely I do
think of that song.
As you know, peter Murphy-ishMore when he was in Bauhaus than
when he was solo.
Number 16, weezer Say it Ain'tso.
Number 14, natalie.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Mertz, can you skip over that, like it's not a good
song or something.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
No, it's a very good song.
Let's talk about that song,Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I think it's a classic.
It's like if you play that songright now for a bunch of
college kids, they all singalong.
Everybody still knows it, lovesit.
It's just like it's an anthem.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Like father.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Stepfather.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
There you go, jimmy.
Number 14, natalie Merchant,formerly of 10,000 Maniacs
Carnival.
Kind of a slow song but it wasall right.
Number 13,.
This is a Call by the FooFighters.
We talked about that recently.
Number 11, alanis MorissetteHand in my Pocket.
I like that song.
(15:05):
I got to be honest.
I kind of like AlanisMorissette, that first album
that was popular.
I know it was I think her thirdalbum that she had out, but
that first popular album I likeHand in my Pocket.
It's just like you know.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
The Jagged Little Pill.
Was that what it was?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yes, that was it, Number 8,.
This song had former Jane'sAddiction and then in 1995, the
current Red Hot Chili Peppersguitarist, dave Navarro, flee
the bassist from the Red HotChili Peppers and Ben Montench
of Tom Petty and theHeartbreakers on organ.
(15:42):
This song number eight youOughta Know, by Alanis
Morissette, and to have thatstar power on that song.
That is a funky bass line it isreally cool to listen to.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I never knew all those guys played on that.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, it's a really cool song to listen to, just the
way that they're playing and ifyou think about it, that's a
song like you.
If you listen to the bass, youcan just be dancing to it.
I know it's a spurn lover song,I know it's about a bad breakup
and that's not normally thetype of songs that you would be
(16:19):
stepping your feet to and movingaround.
But the bass and the guitar andthe drums and everything.
The drummer I can't think ofhis name, but he just toured
with ACDC not too long ago andhe's the drummer for the Dirty
Knobs.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So that's the band that was started by Campbell of
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers,the guitarist, and so he's in
that band.
So he's done a bunch of stuff,but I love a song from the heart
.
We've talked about this for twoyears now, okay, but this takes
it further, as a song sungwhile a dagger is in the heart,
(17:01):
and every time you speak hername does she know how?
You told me you'd hold me untilyou died, till you died, but
you're still alive.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Wow, I mean, those are some pretty yeah, epic words
, some big words in it it's gotsome bite to it.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
If you've never heard this song, you need to check it
out.
A real funky bass line.
I just love it.
I really, really, really loveit.
Now, this song, she won't saywho it's about and there's been
rumors it's about Dave, I thinkhis last name Coulier, the guy
from Full House.
She dated him.
She dated Matt LeBlanc, shedated some former hockey players
(17:47):
.
I think she dated her producerfrom some of her albums.
But she won't say who it is andI guess it really remind you of
the mess you left when you wentaway.
It's not fair to deny me of thecross I bear that you gave to
(18:13):
me.
You, you, you ought to know.
I don't even think I can go onnow.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
That was, that was intense.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It was pretty intense .
Anyway, if you've never heardthat song, I'm not sure where
you've been.
Really.
Let's move on though.
Number seven the Presidents ofthe United States' Lump, it's a
corny little song but you know,if it comes on I would listen to
it.
It's not something that I wouldlisten to all the time.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I liked their cover of Video Killed the Radio Star
better than Lump their big hit.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I'm not sure I've heard that song.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Didn't they have a song like Dune Buggy or
something I'm?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
not sure.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I think something like that.
I remember that song.
I'll have to listen.
I've never heard that onebefore.
Number six Goo Goo Dolls Name asong that reached number five
on Billboard in January 1996.
Number five Gin Blossoms Till IHear it From you, another song
from the Empire Recordssoundtrack.
Number three Green Day, jar Jar, jason Andrew Relva from the
(19:23):
Angus soundtrack, about a friendof one of the band members who
died and kind of paying tributeto him.
It's a good song.
It's not your typical Green Day.
You know it's Green Day whenyou hear it, but it's not the
typical Green Day type of song.
I've always liked it.
I think it's good.
Number two Bush Come Down andnumber one on the Billboard
(19:49):
Modern Rock Track September 16th1995, the day that Jimmy and
Cher said I do.
And 30 years later they stilldo, we still do Silverchair
Tomorrow.
So I guess I should have spokenabout this today, on this
episode, instead of talkingabout silver chair tomorrow last
(20:10):
episode.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
But you know what?
There's no bathroom and thereis no sink, but hopefully there
is at your home, jimmy, becauseI don't think you'd be married
for 30 years if there wasn't.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
No, we do.
We have indoor plumbing now.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Hey, good to hear that.
I like that.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I've mentioned John Sebastian of the Loving Spoonful
when he performed at Woodstockin 1969 and recently when he
played the Isle of WightFestival in 1970.
In 1975, he wrote a songWelcome Back for the TV show
Welcome Back, cotter.
That debuted on September 9th1975.
Song ended up hitting numberone on Billboard in May of 1976.
(20:57):
Now, jimmy, you might be alittle bit younger than me, but
this song was played all thetime back then.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Oh, I remember it very well, do you?
And I loved the show WelcomeBack Cotter, really, in fact, I
have a little inside informationyou might not know.
Oh, so they had put this showtogether, gabe Kaplan.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Wait.
So let me just tell you whatJimmy did.
Jimmy was struggling talkingand he took his glasses off and
all of a sudden he's in form.
I've never seen that before,jimmy.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
It's a Walter Cronkite move.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I'm sorry to disturb you.
Please continue.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So, yeah, gabe Kaplan was a stand-up comedian and he
had pitched this show.
That was like, oh, I want to bethe teacher with all these kids
.
They call the sweat hogs thatare the poorly behaved, the kids
that make D's and F's and stuffand I'm the guy that's trying
to get them to learn and all thehijinks that goes on.
(21:56):
And so he was like I don't wantto be named Gabe Kaplan in the
show.
So he had another K last name,cotter.
So, like my name is going to beGabe Cotter and the show is
going to be called Cotter.
So they greenlit the show, theydid the opening, you know, uh,
credits and everything visual,only because they didn't have a
(22:19):
theme song and they had thisthing that says Cotter on it.
You know, know, they had a logothat was the words cotter, I
think maybe it had a circlearound it or you know something.
But it was all ready to go andlike a week or two before the
premiere, john sebastian turnsin this amazing song welcome
(22:41):
back.
And they're like we want to usethis for the theme to the show,
but it doesn't say anythingabout cotter, it doesn't really.
You know, we need to tie ittogether.
And so they changed the name ofthe show to welcome back cotter
and if you look at the logo forthe show, the welcome back is
sort of scrawled over the topand the cotter is in different,
(23:02):
a different font, because theyliterally added it like right
before the premiere and changedthe name of the show to Welcome
Back Cotter.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
And it all worked out .
Yeah, it all worked out.
I watched the show All the time.
It had Vinnie Barbarino, alsoknown as John Travolta, and
that's kind of where he made hisname and ended up, you know,
becoming a big superstar.
But you know, you mentioned theSweat Hogs.
Besides Barbarino, you hadArnold Horschak, Freddie
(23:31):
Washington, Freddie Boom.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Boom Washington.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Hi there yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
That's how, like the 70s were people.
His being canceled in May of1979.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It was definitely a 70s show.
For sure it was fun.
I forget who played Gabe's wife, Marcia somebody.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Marcia.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Crossman, maybe it was.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, I think it was just Cross.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Oh, marcia Cross, Okay, I thought she did a really
good job playing the wife.
They had the guy that was theprincipal, mr Woodman.
Mr Woodman, that is.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That guy was great.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yes, he did not like the Sweathogs.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
No At all, and Gabe see, the story is that Gabe had
been a Sweathog himself Right,and he came back to Brooklyn to
the school that was BuchananHigh School and I think the idea
kind of it was lost on me as akid.
But like Buchanan was not apresident that you would have
named a school after, he wasn'ta very good president, so they
(24:52):
came up with that.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
You know, I got to be honest, jimmy, so that
everybody knows at home you haveno idea what I'm going to talk
about.
I come in, I start talking andthen you add what you can, what
you know, or if you havequestions or whatever.
Right, this might be one of thethings that you have absolutely
floored me with knowing so muchabout.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I know a lot about.
Welcome Back, Cotter.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I didn't think you were going to know anything.
I didn't.
Well, thanks, and you have beena plethora of knowledge of the
sweat hogs.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And then you know, he would tell an uncle joke at the
end of every episode.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I forgot about that.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
A corny joke about one of his fake uncles.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I did forget about that, but you know what I didn't
forget.
I did not forget that.
I want to revisit some moremusic in my shoes Pink Floyd,
wish you Were here.
The album came out September 12, 1975.
I think this album isabsolutely fantastic and coming
out right after Dark Side of theMoon, people struggle a lot.
(26:01):
The band struggled theyadmitted that they couldn't come
up with new songs at first tobe able to put out a new album.
This album is absolutelyfantastic, great to listen to.
A lot of it has to do with SidBarrett, who had been with the
band and they kicked him out in1968 due to mental breakdown and
(26:24):
doing too much acid.
We talked a little bit about iton episode 25, and that episode
25 was Remember when you WereYoung, which is a line from
Shine On you, crazy Diamond,which is the first song on Wish
you Were here.
And if you remember, what I wassaying is that Sid Barrett
(26:49):
shows up while they're recordingthis album and it was in June
of 1975.
And he was overweight, hedidn't have eyebrows, he had
barely had barely any hair.
You know it was very short, notthe Sid that they had known.
You know, the free, loving1960s Sid Barrett, and they
(27:13):
didn't know who he was at first.
Oh wow, and I apologize, I knowwe we talked, you know, into
the about this in in oh wow,about him.
(27:35):
A lot of the lines are abouthim.
It's about in general as well,about kind of losing reality and
wanting to go into isolation.
You know isolating yourselffrom so many things and you know
it's just crazy.
The song is Shine on your CrazyTime, and here I'm like it's
(27:56):
crazy that this guy came in andwas listening to this song and
had absolutely no idea they'retalking about him and that he
could not put it togetherwhatsoever.
The song Wish you Were here,another song about Sid Barrett,
and I think this album is great.
(28:19):
I think that they're thisconcept.
You know they had the conceptof Dark Side of the Moon, but
this concept of you knowisolation and things you might
have believed in you don'tbelieve in anymore.
And the world changes andeverything changes and all this
stuff, the machine and it's, youknow, have a cigar songs that
(28:50):
talk about being so pumped upand so excited for something and
then you find out that, youknow, music's just a business
and it's all about greed, it'sall about money, it's all about
all of these things and youfinally have made it where
you're famous and you'resomewhat rich, and it just the
whole thing comes back and justlike boom right into your face
and I think they did a great jobof conveying that, all of that
(29:14):
and the missing of sid from theband in this album and I'm not
sure if anyone that I can thinkof and on any form of an album
that was so successful like thisthat anyone's been able to
replicate that.
You know, I mean it's just areally cool thing when you peel
(29:38):
back the layers of the album.
Now.
They only released one singlehave a Cigar, oh.
Roy Harper sang the lead, noteven in the band, okay I didn't
realize that roger waters couldnot get the vocal down because
he had been singing shine on you, crazy diamond.
You know his voice kind of I'mnot.
(29:58):
I want to say he lost his voicebut maybe it got, you know,
raspy or or whatever.
And roy harper was in the sameEMI place that they were
recording and David Gilmour, theguitarist, played some guitar
on the album.
It's like, hey, why don't youcome down and he sings and
they're like, yeah, let's gowith it.
(30:18):
Now Roger Waters regrets it.
He's like I should have sangthe song.
I shouldn't have had somebodyelse singing my song.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Couldn't he wait like a couple of days for his voice
to recover?
I?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
don't know.
You know how sometimes you'rejust like whatever you know and
you just like you give in forwhatever reason on things and
then it comes back that youregret it.
I think that might have beenthe reasoning behind it.
That's a song where they, youknow, they're kind of talking
about the music business andthey're like, oh, by the way,
(30:53):
which one's pink?
You know that they think pinkis a guy.
I actually had a Pink Floydshirt that said on the back it
was a black shirt and in pink.
On the back it said oh, by theway, which one's pink.
And people would ask me aboutit and I would tell them and I
kid you not, I would say morethan 50% of the people this is
(31:17):
in the 80s, this is not recently.
This is the 80s More than 50%of the people did not realize
there was no person named PinkFloyd.
50% of the people did notrealize there was no person
named Pink Floyd.
Now, I don't know if it'sbecause of the movie the Wall,
where they had, you know, personnamed Pink, but I would wear
that shirt and I can't tell youhow many comments I would get on
(31:38):
it.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
And there's no Jethro Tull right.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
There is no Jethro Tull.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
No, or it's named after, like a guy you know, a
historical character, right.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
No one in the band named that no Leonard Skinner
guy in the band.
I think he might have been likean old teacher or something of
that nature.
But it really is a good album.
You know it starts off withShine On you, crazy Diamond,
parts one through five.
Welcome to the Machine.
You know that I talked abouthave a Cigar.
(32:09):
We just talked about that.
Wish you Were here.
And then it ends with Shine onyou, crazy Diamond, parts six
through nine.
It is a great album to listenjust straight through.
It's just really, really neat.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, it's definitely one of those to listen straight
through wish you were here withdavid gilmore on lead vocals.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You know roger warders did most of them and I
think roger warders, if youlisten, to shine on your crazy
diamond you needed roger wardersvoice.
He's got that unique voice todo shine on your Crazy Diamond.
But David Gilmour, on Wish youWere here, it's unbelievable, it
is just fantastic.
As he's singing that song, Ithink of it as another one of
(32:55):
those.
It comes from the heart songs.
So, jimmy, the cover of thealbum.
Do you remember the cover ofthe album?
There was one man standing andone man standing across from him
.
He was on fire.
On fire, right, all right, andthat had to kind of do.
One man standing and one manstanding across from him.
He was on fire on fire, right,all right, and that had to kind
of do with the business ofgetting burned in, the business,
the royalties and the wholenine yards again talking about
shaking hands shaking hands andif you take a look on the inside
(33:18):
of the album, it had, um, likerobotic mechanical arms at
shaking hands and there's a lotof imagery.
If you look at the differentthings that they came up with
for the wish you were here album, whether it's you know, the
stickers, I think it came withlike some stickers, maybe a
poster or something justdifferent type of things, but
(33:39):
when they took this picture theyactually did it at um, uh, not
Brothers, it wasn't WarnerBrothers then it was I think it
was Burbank Studios is what theycalled it and if you look you
can see it's definitely on asoundstage area.
You know the outside of thesoundstage and they set one guy
(34:00):
on fire and they did it, youknow, 14 times, took pictures
and there was no problem.
15th time they do it, the windblows and actually singes his
mustache.
But that guy, ronnie Rondell Jr, just passed away on August
12th of 2025.
(34:20):
So you know he is going to beremembered forever for that
album and the fact that backthen in 1975, you had to set
someone on fire.
For that you didn't have AI.
You didn't have the tools thatyou have today to be able to not
just today, the tools that youhad 10 years ago or whatever.
(34:42):
If you wanted someone on fire,they got set on fire.
I like it.
Yeah, and it was also done byHypnosis.
We talked about Hypnosis oncebefore as a company that did
album covers and we talked aboutsome of the early Pink Floyd
albums that they had done, andhere they were part of the Wish
(35:03):
you Were here.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Oh, okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But if you have not listened to the album Wish you
Were here in a long time, listento it.
You will definitely enjoy it asmuch as you did.
If you've never listened to it,listen to the whole thing
straight through and you'll beglad you did.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And start it on the third roar of the lion in the
Wizard of Oz.
No, Jimmy, that's Dark Side ofthe Moon.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Dark Side of the Moon .
Please, nobody do that andwaste your time.
But you know what?
We're not going to waste ourtime because tick, tick, tick,
it's Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with JimmyMinute with Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy, minute with Jimmy, minute with
Jimmy.
The Replacements Tim came out40 years ago this month.
It is one of my favoriteReplacements albums and I'm not
a fan of the new remixing thatthey did.
I love the old mix that wasdone by Tommy Erdely, who was
(36:06):
the original drummer for theRamones and he produced this
album.
A lot of people criticize theproduction on it.
I think it's just it's perfectbecause it kind of gives it an
alternative sound.
It makes it not sound like it's, you know, a Brian Adams record
or something from 1985.
I'd let you know that it wasdefinitely a different kind of
(36:26):
music that cuts like a knife,jimmy and I love every song on
this.
Uh, you know great ones likehold my life, kiss me on the bus
, waitress in the sky, swingingparty, bastards of young.
I mean, come on this record.
Left of the dial little mascara, here comes a.
So yeah, do you like this album?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I love this album, jimmy, and I normally am like
you when they do the remixingand they do all that.
I'm not really into that, but Ido like when they remix this
album.
I do like some of the versions.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
We talked about it, I believe, on episode one.
Was it episode one I think itwas very early and I was like,
should I say how much I don'tlike the new thing?
And I wasn't really sure whatto say.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
You didn't know what you could get away with.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, I wasn't sure if you wanted me to be totally
negative at that point.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, no, whatever.
Yeah, that's probably a goodpoint.
We probably wouldn't be atepisode 95.
Yeah, you know, that's probablya good point.
We probably wouldn't be atepisode 95.
No, but I do.
I normally don't, I reallynormally don't like it, but I
like some of these.
(37:41):
I'm not saying I like thembetter, but I think Left of the
Dial, paul Westerberg wrote thatabout one of the females from
the band let's Active that hewas interested in and that the
only place that you could hearlet's Active was college radio,
which was Left of the Dial.
And you know kind of you knowsweet Southern breezes.
(38:04):
Yeah, You're trying to find.
You know you're always goingacross the country.
Maybe you run into each otherevery once in a while, but I'm
really almost 100% positive thatthat's what that song is about.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
That's good to know, very cool.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Bastards of Young has one of the greatest guitar
openings of ever.
Yeah, and then that growl orwhatever you want to call it
scream?
scream, like it just makes youlike, wow, you know.
And then he starts to sing andyou know, talking about the
ladder of success, and I meanit's just like man, like I feel
(38:43):
like I'm one of the bastards ofyoung now, just from you know
singing the song, you know, andit's hard to believe it's 40
years old.
You know, it really is.
It just seems like yesterdaythat that song came out.
Kiss Me on the Bus.
I mean that is.
I think it's a great little popditty.
I do.
I just enjoy that song.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It is Fun song.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
A fun song to listen to.
I think that was a very goodMinute with Jimmy Minute with
Jimmy Filter.
Hey man, nice Shot peaked atnumber 76 on Billboard Hot 100,
august 12, 1995.
An industrial song, kind ofNine Inch Nails sounding.
Richard Patrick was a formermember of Nine Inch Nails so
(39:26):
it's not surprising that it wassounding like them.
I wish I would have met you Nowit's a little late what you
could have taught me.
I could have saved some face.
This song has to do with I'mgoing to say it's 1987, jimmy
but there was a guy inPennsylvania.
He was a politician.
(39:47):
I don't know if he was a countypolitician, I honestly don't
remember but he took his ownlife live during a press
conference and this song comesfrom that.
There's actually a few songsout there that talk about that
incident.
Now, maybe not talk about itbut kind of reference it, or
that was the inspiration for thesong.
(40:09):
Hey man, nice Shot by Filter isone of them.
Gangster's Paradise Coolio,featuring LV, peaked at number
one on Billboard Hot 100September 9th 1995 from the
movie Dangerous Minds.
You ever see that movie?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
I didn't either, but I know the song.
I actually sent someone a textyesterday and I said I know
people think Coolio is dead, butI just saw him in the Arby's
parking lot and this guy hadthat hair.
you know it looked just likeCoolio's hair and I did a double
take.
I was like and I'm like, no,he's dead, it can't be him, but
(40:48):
it looked just like him.
We've reached that point.
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That's it for episode 95 ofMusic In my Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of
Arcade 160 Studios located righthere in Atlanta, georgia, and
(41:10):
Vic Thrill for the podcast music.
This is Jim Boge and I hope youlearned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
A poem.
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Bogeand you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 95.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
So, jimmy, keeping in trackkind of what I've done recently
(00:54):
episode 95, I'm going tohighlight songs from the
Billboard Modern Rock tracksfrom September 16th 1995.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh, really, yes, yeah , do you know what that is?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
September 16th 1995?
.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That's the day I got married.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I had no idea, Jimmy.
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Wow, yeah, we're coming up on 30 years.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, we're going to talk about the songs that were
popular in Modern Rock on yourwedding day.
All right, I didn't even knowthat.
This is my gift to you and yourwife.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
30 years later, you're so thoughtful.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
That's the way that I am.
That's the way I am.
So one thing I wanted to startoff with at this point I was
living down here in Atlantaabout five years and there was a
radio station that had beenlike a top 40 station and they
converted to modern alternativetype rock 99X.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, what was it called Power 99.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Power 99, and they switched.
I think it was about 1992 or so.
Yep, and all of these songsthat I'm going to talk about are
songs that I heard on 99X Firstand that they were primarily
99X songs.
There's some songs that youknow we'll talk about, that hit
Billboard Hot 100 number onesand so forth, but the majority
(02:15):
of these songs really are, youknow, 99X.
And when I look back 30 yearsago and what they were playing,
this is it.
You know, this is really whatit all comes down to.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, and like you've said, you know you had some
really great radio stations inLong Island and New York City
area as early as you know, thelate seventies.
We really only had as far asalternative music or whatever
you might've called it, you know, in the eighties eighties
alternative it was college rockand that was only on album 88,
(02:51):
or if you were in Athens, theyhad WUOG there but, um, it
didn't have a whole lot of range, so you couldn't pick up the
Athens station in Atlanta, andwhen 99 X came on the air it was
a breath of fresh air Like, ohwow, it's actually some music
that I want to listen to that'son commercial radio and we'd
never had that in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, and you hit the nail on the head.
When I moved here in 1990,between that time I moved here
and 99X came on the radio, I hadfriends making me cassettes of
WDRE up in New York and sendingme, or you know whatever type of
music they could send me fromdifferent stations.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Like a care package.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
A care package that I could listen to to keep up to
date with things that werehappening.
So let's get started.
Let's get right into it.
Number 39, matthew Sweet Sickof Myself.
A good guitar-driven song.
Do you know who played leadguitar?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
No, I always assumed it was Matthew Sweet.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Matthew Sweet actually didn't play lead guitar
.
In most of the songs he usuallyhad someone that was playing.
But Richard Lloyd of the bandTelevision, influential in punk
and they played at CBGB's backin the day and I just think it's
cool because it's a real coollead guitar part.
(04:12):
I mean Television most peoplehaven't heard of.
Really, if you think about it,most people probably haven't
heard of Richard Lloyd until I'mtalking about him now.
But so influential and thatband you know Tom Verlaine,
richard Hell, you know he wenton to Richard Hell and the
Voidoids and the drummer fromthe Ramones was in Richard Hell
(04:37):
and the Voidoids.
They had Blank Generation, Imean.
So this band television really,you know, not only did they do
stuff as themselves but oncethey broke apart and they went
in their own ways, reallyinfluential on so much music.
So it's really cool to seeRichard Lloyd with Matthew Sweet
because I love Sick of Myself,I love the guitar Especially.
(05:01):
It just never seems to end.
We've talked about that beforeand it's just cool, I like it, I
like it a lot.
Can't forget about matthewsweet.
You know he had a stroke inoctober of 2024.
He's still trying to recoverfrom it.
So you know we keep him in ourthoughts here.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, I wish him the best we do.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Number 38 you two withhold me, thrill me, kiss me,
kill me.
Talked about that song not thatlong ago.
38, u2 with Hold Me, thrill Me,kiss Me, kill Me.
Talked about that song not thatlong ago.
Number 37, softer, softest.
Now, this is a whole song andit's off the 1994 album Live
Through this and it's actuallyone of the songs that Kurt
(05:39):
Cobain helps do the chorus andit's towards the end of the song
and he sings along.
He only did it with two songs.
This is one of them and it wasactually recorded right here in
Marietta, georgia, back in theday.
I forget what the name of thestudio was.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Southern.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Tracks probably no, something Triclops I think it
was Triclops.
Yeah, Triclops, that's wherethe album was recorded, but
Triclops, I think it wasTriclops, yeah, triclops, that's
where the album was recorded.
But this is a cool song.
It is the beginning, most ofit's kind of soft kind of
ballady, which I know Courtneylove and hold.
That doesn't sound likesomething you would expect, but
(06:18):
then it just kind of getsrocking towards the end and it's
a good song, and Kurt had beengone for a year and a half at
that point.
Yeah, I had to think about mymath there.
But yes, you are correct andit's funny because you know
we've talked about this beforewhere an album comes out and
we'll talk about different songsthat made the charts at
(06:38):
different times.
This album came out in April of1994.
We're now talking aboutSeptember 1995, like you
mentioned, a year and a halflater and it has a song as
number 37 on the Modern Rocktracks.
Yeah, Number 36, Hum, with thesong Stars.
(06:59):
I hadn't heard this song inyears, Maybe even a couple of
decades, if I can be honest withyou.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I'm trying to picture it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So I'm driving the other day with a mutual friend
and the song comes on and Iforgot, like it begins with a
guitar and then it kind of stopsand you're like wait, did the
song just end, or is there more?
And then it kind of stops andyou're like wait, did the song
just end, or is there more?
And then it starts again andthen it gets a little louder and
(07:31):
then it kind of stops again.
You're like what?
And I forgot all about thissong and it was ironic.
Then the next day as I'mlooking up the modern rock
tracks, I'm like oh wow, that'sso funny, you know, because you
know we've talked about hearingsongs on my way here or leaving
here and that whatever we'retalking about on the show just
(07:53):
seems to pop up.
So it was just really reallybizarre for that.
So it's got these severalbeginnings.
It actually was played onBeavis and Butthead and they're
watching music videos and asthey're watching it they start
changing the channel becausethey think the song is over,
kind of like what I was justtalking about.
(08:15):
It's a pretty good song, youknow, I don't know how to
describe it or anything, butit's a grungy, you know.
Like I said, it kind of startsoff with this slow thing and
then it gets into it.
Most well-known song by Hum,Number 32, Collective Soul, the
(08:36):
song December.
Why drink the water from myhand?
Contagious as you think I am,Just tilt my sun towards your
domain.
Your cup runneth over again.
I just think those words are socool.
Start off this song.
It's one of my favoritecollective soul songs.
It made it to number 20 on theBillboard Hot 100 in September
(09:00):
95 also, so it was on twodifferent charts.
Why follow me to to higherground?
Lost as you swear I am and Ithink those lines that just so
cool that you know through yourlife, when people are kind of
doubting you and you're lost andthis and everything, but
they're still following you, youknow yeah, and I just think
(09:21):
that that was really cool.
Number 31, blues Traveler withRunaround, most well-known blues
traveler song.
It peaked earlier at numbereight on August 5th on the
Billboard Hot 100.
But you, why?
You want to give me a runaround?
Is it a surefire way to speedthings up when all it does is
(09:44):
slow me down?
Man, I love those words, jimmy,I love them.
Number 30, live all over you.
Number 28, sponge Molly 16Candles, a song named after
Molly Ringwald, one of the starsof the movie 16 Candles.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yep Saw that movie a lot of times, did you really I
did, because it came out when Iwas in like the ninth grade and
we would just go to that DollarMovie Theater and see it all
summer long.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I liked the Dollar Movie Theater when I was younger
.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Definitely gave us something to do.
One of the movies I saw wasFast Times at Ridgemont High.
Gave us something to do.
One of the movies I saw wasFast Times at Ridgemont High.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I saw that a ton of times at the Dollar Theater.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
And Porky's was the other one that I saw a ton at
the Dollar Theater.
Fast Times and 16 Candles holdup pretty well.
I don't know if Porky's does.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's the truth, though.
It reached number 55 on theBillboard Hot 100 in August 1995
.
I have no idea how it did it.
It's you know it's a decentsong, but I don't know how it
would appeal to that many of themasses to make it to number 55
on the countdown.
Don't Ask why.
16 Candles Down the Drain,Number 26, Dave Matthews Band,
(11:03):
Ants Marching.
It seemed like when that songcame out, everybody that was in
college, or everybody that wasin high school, absolutely loved
Dave Matthews, loved that song,and would play that thing
nonstop.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, I wasn't a fan, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I had a feeling you were going to say that I was
trying to lead up to that.
That was my guess.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
The big reveal.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
The big reveal here 25.
Toadies with Possum Kingdomthat's a good one, the opening
guitars are just fantastic.
And then make up your mind,decide to walk with me around
the lake tonight, around thelake tonight, by my side, wow.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
That's a fun song.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I think this is probably in my top 200 favorite
songs of all time.
All right, I really do.
I think it totally stands thetest of time.
It is just fantastic,everything about it the guitars,
the bass, the drums, thesinging, the words.
I mean every part of the song Iabsolutely love.
(12:15):
Number 24, tripping Daisy.
I Got a Girl, a song about thelead singer's girl at the time
and they didn't want to releasethe song as a single.
The record company wasinsisting on it their biggest
song ever and if they didn'trelease it most of us would have
(12:38):
no idea who Tripping Daisy is.
And basically the song is kindof like I got a girl and then
says something about her.
I got a girl, says somethingabout her.
I got a girl, says it's allabout his girl.
He ended up marrying her.
He has four kids with her, youknow.
But after they broke up theband Trippin' Daisy, the lead
(12:59):
singer started Polyphonic Spree.
Number 19, the ska punk soundof Rancid with Time Bomb Good
one.
I forgot about this song.
I played it and I was like Ijust totally forgot about it.
This is a good song.
It is.
It really is Number 18, a GirlLike you by Edwin Collins.
(13:20):
I've never known a girl likeyou before.
Now, just like in a song fromDays of Yore, here you come
knocking on my door.
Well, I've never met a girllike you before.
His voice reminds me of PeterMurphy from Bauhaus, very
(13:41):
similar to me, as he's singingAnytime that someone can put in
a popular song, days of Yore.
You've got me hooked rightthere.
And this was in the movieEmpire Records, oh yeah, which
the soundtrack, which actuallythat movie is hitting 30 years
(14:01):
Now that I think about it.
I think it came out inSeptember of 95.
Well, that would make sense 30in 95, sure, but definitely I do
think of that song.
As you know, peter Murphy-ishMore when he was in Bauhaus than
when he was solo.
Number 16, weezer Say it Ain'tso.
Number 14, natalie.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Mertz, can you skip over that, like it's not a good
song or something.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
No, it's a very good song.
Let's talk about that song,Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I think it's a classic.
It's like if you play that songright now for a bunch of
college kids, they all singalong.
Everybody still knows it, lovesit.
It's just like it's an anthem.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Like father.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Stepfather.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
There you go, jimmy.
Number 14, natalie Merchant,formerly of 10,000 Maniacs
Carnival.
Kind of a slow song but it wasall right.
Number 13,.
This is a Call by the FooFighters.
We talked about that recently.
Number 11, alanis MorissetteHand in my Pocket.
I like that song.
(15:05):
I got to be honest.
I kind of like AlanisMorissette, that first album
that was popular.
I know it was I think her thirdalbum that she had out, but
that first popular album I likeHand in my Pocket.
It's just like you know.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
The Jagged Little Pill.
Was that what it was?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yes, that was it, Number 8,.
This song had former Jane'sAddiction and then in 1995, the
current Red Hot Chili Peppersguitarist, dave Navarro, flee
the bassist from the Red HotChili Peppers and Ben Montench
of Tom Petty and theHeartbreakers on organ.
(15:42):
This song number eight youOughta Know, by Alanis
Morissette, and to have thatstar power on that song.
That is a funky bass line it isreally cool to listen to.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I never knew all those guys played on that.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, it's a really cool song to listen to, just the
way that they're playing and ifyou think about it, that's a
song like you.
If you listen to the bass, youcan just be dancing to it.
I know it's a spurn lover song,I know it's about a bad breakup
and that's not normally thetype of songs that you would be
(16:19):
stepping your feet to and movingaround.
But the bass and the guitar andthe drums and everything.
The drummer I can't think ofhis name, but he just toured
with ACDC not too long ago andhe's the drummer for the Dirty
Knobs.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So that's the band that was started by Campbell of
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers,the guitarist, and so he's in
that band.
So he's done a bunch of stuff,but I love a song from the heart
.
We've talked about this for twoyears now, okay, but this takes
it further, as a song sungwhile a dagger is in the heart,
(17:01):
and every time you speak hername does she know how?
You told me you'd hold me untilyou died, till you died, but
you're still alive.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Wow, I mean, those are some pretty yeah, epic words
, some big words in it it's gotsome bite to it.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
If you've never heard this song, you need to check it
out.
A real funky bass line.
I just love it.
I really, really, really loveit.
Now, this song, she won't saywho it's about and there's been
rumors it's about Dave, I thinkhis last name Coulier, the guy
from Full House.
She dated him.
She dated Matt LeBlanc, shedated some former hockey players
(17:47):
.
I think she dated her producerfrom some of her albums.
But she won't say who it is andI guess it really remind you of
the mess you left when you wentaway.
It's not fair to deny me of thecross I bear that you gave to
(18:13):
me.
You, you, you ought to know.
I don't even think I can go onnow.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
That was, that was intense.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It was pretty intense .
Anyway, if you've never heardthat song, I'm not sure where
you've been.
Really.
Let's move on though.
Number seven the Presidents ofthe United States' Lump, it's a
corny little song but you know,if it comes on I would listen to
it.
It's not something that I wouldlisten to all the time.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I liked their cover of Video Killed the Radio Star
better than Lump their big hit.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I'm not sure I've heard that song.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Didn't they have a song like Dune Buggy or
something I'm?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
not sure.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I think something like that.
I remember that song.
I'll have to listen.
I've never heard that onebefore.
Number six Goo Goo Dolls Name asong that reached number five
on Billboard in January 1996.
Number five Gin Blossoms Till IHear it From you, another song
from the Empire Recordssoundtrack.
Number three Green Day, jar Jar, jason Andrew Relva from the
(19:23):
Angus soundtrack, about a friendof one of the band members who
died and kind of paying tributeto him.
It's a good song.
It's not your typical Green Day.
You know it's Green Day whenyou hear it, but it's not the
typical Green Day type of song.
I've always liked it.
I think it's good.
Number two Bush Come Down andnumber one on the Billboard
(19:49):
Modern Rock Track September 16th1995, the day that Jimmy and
Cher said I do.
And 30 years later they stilldo, we still do Silverchair
Tomorrow.
So I guess I should have spokenabout this today, on this
episode, instead of talkingabout silver chair tomorrow last
(20:10):
episode.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
But you know what?
There's no bathroom and thereis no sink, but hopefully there
is at your home, jimmy, becauseI don't think you'd be married
for 30 years if there wasn't.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
No, we do.
We have indoor plumbing now.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Hey, good to hear that.
I like that.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I've mentioned John Sebastian of the Loving Spoonful
when he performed at Woodstockin 1969 and recently when he
played the Isle of WightFestival in 1970.
In 1975, he wrote a songWelcome Back for the TV show
Welcome Back, cotter.
That debuted on September 9th1975.
Song ended up hitting numberone on Billboard in May of 1976.
(20:57):
Now, jimmy, you might be alittle bit younger than me, but
this song was played all thetime back then.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Oh, I remember it very well, do you?
And I loved the show WelcomeBack Cotter, really, in fact, I
have a little inside informationyou might not know.
Oh, so they had put this showtogether, gabe Kaplan.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Wait.
So let me just tell you whatJimmy did.
Jimmy was struggling talkingand he took his glasses off and
all of a sudden he's in form.
I've never seen that before,jimmy.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
It's a Walter Cronkite move.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I'm sorry to disturb you.
Please continue.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So, yeah, gabe Kaplan was a stand-up comedian and he
had pitched this show.
That was like, oh, I want to bethe teacher with all these kids
.
They call the sweat hogs thatare the poorly behaved, the kids
that make D's and F's and stuffand I'm the guy that's trying
to get them to learn and all thehijinks that goes on.
(21:56):
And so he was like I don't wantto be named Gabe Kaplan in the
show.
So he had another K last name,cotter.
So, like my name is going to beGabe Cotter and the show is
going to be called Cotter.
So they greenlit the show, theydid the opening, you know, uh,
credits and everything visual,only because they didn't have a
(22:19):
theme song and they had thisthing that says Cotter on it.
You know, know, they had a logothat was the words cotter, I
think maybe it had a circlearound it or you know something.
But it was all ready to go andlike a week or two before the
premiere, john sebastian turnsin this amazing song welcome
(22:41):
back.
And they're like we want to usethis for the theme to the show,
but it doesn't say anythingabout cotter, it doesn't really.
You know, we need to tie ittogether.
And so they changed the name ofthe show to welcome back cotter
and if you look at the logo forthe show, the welcome back is
sort of scrawled over the topand the cotter is in different,
(23:02):
a different font, because theyliterally added it like right
before the premiere and changedthe name of the show to Welcome
Back Cotter.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
And it all worked out .
Yeah, it all worked out.
I watched the show All the time.
It had Vinnie Barbarino, alsoknown as John Travolta, and
that's kind of where he made hisname and ended up, you know,
becoming a big superstar.
But you know, you mentioned theSweat Hogs.
Besides Barbarino, you hadArnold Horschak, Freddie
(23:31):
Washington, Freddie Boom.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Boom Washington.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Hi there yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
That's how, like the 70s were people.
His being canceled in May of1979.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It was definitely a 70s show.
For sure it was fun.
I forget who played Gabe's wife, Marcia somebody.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Marcia.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Crossman, maybe it was.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, I think it was just Cross.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Oh, marcia Cross, Okay, I thought she did a really
good job playing the wife.
They had the guy that was theprincipal, mr Woodman.
Mr Woodman, that is.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That guy was great.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yes, he did not like the Sweathogs.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
No At all, and Gabe see, the story is that Gabe had
been a Sweathog himself Right,and he came back to Brooklyn to
the school that was BuchananHigh School and I think the idea
kind of it was lost on me as akid.
But like Buchanan was not apresident that you would have
named a school after, he wasn'ta very good president, so they
(24:52):
came up with that.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
You know, I got to be honest, jimmy, so that
everybody knows at home you haveno idea what I'm going to talk
about.
I come in, I start talking andthen you add what you can, what
you know, or if you havequestions or whatever.
Right, this might be one of thethings that you have absolutely
floored me with knowing so muchabout.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I know a lot about.
Welcome Back, Cotter.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I didn't think you were going to know anything.
I didn't.
Well, thanks, and you have beena plethora of knowledge of the
sweat hogs.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And then you know, he would tell an uncle joke at the
end of every episode.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I forgot about that.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
A corny joke about one of his fake uncles.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I did forget about that, but you know what I didn't
forget.
I did not forget that.
I want to revisit some moremusic in my shoes Pink Floyd,
wish you Were here.
The album came out September 12, 1975.
I think this album isabsolutely fantastic and coming
out right after Dark Side of theMoon, people struggle a lot.
(26:01):
The band struggled theyadmitted that they couldn't come
up with new songs at first tobe able to put out a new album.
This album is absolutelyfantastic, great to listen to.
A lot of it has to do with SidBarrett, who had been with the
band and they kicked him out in1968 due to mental breakdown and
(26:24):
doing too much acid.
We talked a little bit about iton episode 25, and that episode
25 was Remember when you WereYoung, which is a line from
Shine On you, crazy Diamond,which is the first song on Wish
you Were here.
And if you remember, what I wassaying is that Sid Barrett
(26:49):
shows up while they're recordingthis album and it was in June
of 1975.
And he was overweight, hedidn't have eyebrows, he had
barely had barely any hair.
You know it was very short, notthe Sid that they had known.
You know, the free, loving1960s Sid Barrett, and they
(27:13):
didn't know who he was at first.
Oh wow, and I apologize, I knowwe we talked, you know, into
the about this in in oh wow,about him.
(27:35):
A lot of the lines are abouthim.
It's about in general as well,about kind of losing reality and
wanting to go into isolation.
You know isolating yourselffrom so many things and you know
it's just crazy.
The song is Shine on your CrazyTime, and here I'm like it's
(27:56):
crazy that this guy came in andwas listening to this song and
had absolutely no idea they'retalking about him and that he
could not put it togetherwhatsoever.
The song Wish you Were here,another song about Sid Barrett,
and I think this album is great.
(28:19):
I think that they're thisconcept.
You know they had the conceptof Dark Side of the Moon, but
this concept of you knowisolation and things you might
have believed in you don'tbelieve in anymore.
And the world changes andeverything changes and all this
stuff, the machine and it's, youknow, have a cigar songs that
(28:50):
talk about being so pumped upand so excited for something and
then you find out that, youknow, music's just a business
and it's all about greed, it'sall about money, it's all about
all of these things and youfinally have made it where
you're famous and you'resomewhat rich, and it just the
whole thing comes back and justlike boom right into your face
and I think they did a great jobof conveying that, all of that
(29:14):
and the missing of sid from theband in this album and I'm not
sure if anyone that I can thinkof and on any form of an album
that was so successful like thisthat anyone's been able to
replicate that.
You know, I mean it's just areally cool thing when you peel
(29:38):
back the layers of the album.
Now.
They only released one singlehave a Cigar, oh.
Roy Harper sang the lead, noteven in the band, okay I didn't
realize that roger waters couldnot get the vocal down because
he had been singing shine on you, crazy diamond.
You know his voice kind of I'mnot.
(29:58):
I want to say he lost his voicebut maybe it got, you know,
raspy or or whatever.
And roy harper was in the sameEMI place that they were
recording and David Gilmour, theguitarist, played some guitar
on the album.
It's like, hey, why don't youcome down and he sings and
they're like, yeah, let's gowith it.
(30:18):
Now Roger Waters regrets it.
He's like I should have sangthe song.
I shouldn't have had somebodyelse singing my song.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Couldn't he wait like a couple of days for his voice
to recover?
I?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
don't know.
You know how sometimes you'rejust like whatever you know and
you just like you give in forwhatever reason on things and
then it comes back that youregret it.
I think that might have beenthe reasoning behind it.
That's a song where they, youknow, they're kind of talking
about the music business andthey're like, oh, by the way,
(30:53):
which one's pink?
You know that they think pinkis a guy.
I actually had a Pink Floydshirt that said on the back it
was a black shirt and in pink.
On the back it said oh, by theway, which one's pink.
And people would ask me aboutit and I would tell them and I
kid you not, I would say morethan 50% of the people this is
(31:17):
in the 80s, this is not recently.
This is the 80s More than 50%of the people did not realize
there was no person named PinkFloyd.
50% of the people did notrealize there was no person
named Pink Floyd.
Now, I don't know if it'sbecause of the movie the Wall,
where they had, you know, personnamed Pink, but I would wear
that shirt and I can't tell youhow many comments I would get on
(31:38):
it.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
And there's no Jethro Tull right.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
There is no Jethro Tull.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
No, or it's named after, like a guy you know, a
historical character, right.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
No one in the band named that no Leonard Skinner
guy in the band.
I think he might have been likean old teacher or something of
that nature.
But it really is a good album.
You know it starts off withShine On you, crazy Diamond,
parts one through five.
Welcome to the Machine.
You know that I talked abouthave a Cigar.
(32:09):
We just talked about that.
Wish you Were here.
And then it ends with Shine onyou, crazy Diamond, parts six
through nine.
It is a great album to listenjust straight through.
It's just really, really neat.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, it's definitely one of those to listen straight
through wish you were here withdavid gilmore on lead vocals.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You know roger warders did most of them and I
think roger warders, if youlisten, to shine on your crazy
diamond you needed roger wardersvoice.
He's got that unique voice todo shine on your Crazy Diamond.
But David Gilmour, on Wish youWere here, it's unbelievable, it
is just fantastic.
As he's singing that song, Ithink of it as another one of
(32:55):
those.
It comes from the heart songs.
So, jimmy, the cover of thealbum.
Do you remember the cover ofthe album?
There was one man standing andone man standing across from him
.
He was on fire.
On fire, right, all right, andthat had to kind of do.
One man standing and one manstanding across from him.
He was on fire on fire, right,all right, and that had to kind
of do with the business ofgetting burned in, the business,
the royalties and the wholenine yards again talking about
shaking hands shaking hands andif you take a look on the inside
(33:18):
of the album, it had, um, likerobotic mechanical arms at
shaking hands and there's a lotof imagery.
If you look at the differentthings that they came up with
for the wish you were here album, whether it's you know, the
stickers, I think it came withlike some stickers, maybe a
poster or something justdifferent type of things, but
(33:39):
when they took this picture theyactually did it at um, uh, not
Brothers, it wasn't WarnerBrothers then it was I think it
was Burbank Studios is what theycalled it and if you look you
can see it's definitely on asoundstage area.
You know the outside of thesoundstage and they set one guy
(34:00):
on fire and they did it, youknow, 14 times, took pictures
and there was no problem.
15th time they do it, the windblows and actually singes his
mustache.
But that guy, ronnie Rondell Jr, just passed away on August
12th of 2025.
(34:20):
So you know he is going to beremembered forever for that
album and the fact that backthen in 1975, you had to set
someone on fire.
For that you didn't have AI.
You didn't have the tools thatyou have today to be able to not
just today, the tools that youhad 10 years ago or whatever.
(34:42):
If you wanted someone on fire,they got set on fire.
I like it.
Yeah, and it was also done byHypnosis.
We talked about Hypnosis oncebefore as a company that did
album covers and we talked aboutsome of the early Pink Floyd
albums that they had done, andhere they were part of the Wish
(35:03):
you Were here.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Oh, okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But if you have not listened to the album Wish you
Were here in a long time, listento it.
You will definitely enjoy it asmuch as you did.
If you've never listened to it,listen to the whole thing
straight through and you'll beglad you did.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And start it on the third roar of the lion in the
Wizard of Oz.
No, Jimmy, that's Dark Side ofthe Moon.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Dark Side of the Moon .
Please, nobody do that andwaste your time.
But you know what?
We're not going to waste ourtime because tick, tick, tick,
it's Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with JimmyMinute with Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy, minute with Jimmy, minute with
Jimmy.
The Replacements Tim came out40 years ago this month.
It is one of my favoriteReplacements albums and I'm not
a fan of the new remixing thatthey did.
I love the old mix that wasdone by Tommy Erdely, who was
(36:06):
the original drummer for theRamones and he produced this
album.
A lot of people criticize theproduction on it.
I think it's just it's perfectbecause it kind of gives it an
alternative sound.
It makes it not sound like it's, you know, a Brian Adams record
or something from 1985.
I'd let you know that it wasdefinitely a different kind of
(36:26):
music that cuts like a knife,jimmy and I love every song on
this.
Uh, you know great ones likehold my life, kiss me on the bus
, waitress in the sky, swingingparty, bastards of young.
I mean, come on this record.
Left of the dial little mascara, here comes a.
So yeah, do you like this album?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I love this album, jimmy, and I normally am like
you when they do the remixingand they do all that.
I'm not really into that, but Ido like when they remix this
album.
I do like some of the versions.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
We talked about it, I believe, on episode one.
Was it episode one I think itwas very early and I was like,
should I say how much I don'tlike the new thing?
And I wasn't really sure whatto say.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
You didn't know what you could get away with.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, I wasn't sure if you wanted me to be totally
negative at that point.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, no, whatever.
Yeah, that's probably a goodpoint.
We probably wouldn't be atepisode 95.
Yeah, you know, that's probablya good point.
We probably wouldn't be atepisode 95.
No, but I do.
I normally don't, I reallynormally don't like it, but I
like some of these.
(37:41):
I'm not saying I like thembetter, but I think Left of the
Dial, paul Westerberg wrote thatabout one of the females from
the band let's Active that hewas interested in and that the
only place that you could hearlet's Active was college radio,
which was Left of the Dial.
And you know kind of you knowsweet Southern breezes.
(38:04):
Yeah, You're trying to find.
You know you're always goingacross the country.
Maybe you run into each otherevery once in a while, but I'm
really almost 100% positive thatthat's what that song is about.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
That's good to know, very cool.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Bastards of Young has one of the greatest guitar
openings of ever.
Yeah, and then that growl orwhatever you want to call it
scream?
scream, like it just makes youlike, wow, you know.
And then he starts to sing andyou know, talking about the
ladder of success, and I meanit's just like man, like I feel
(38:43):
like I'm one of the bastards ofyoung now, just from you know
singing the song, you know, andit's hard to believe it's 40
years old.
You know, it really is.
It just seems like yesterdaythat that song came out.
Kiss Me on the Bus.
I mean that is.
I think it's a great little popditty.
I do.
I just enjoy that song.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It is Fun song.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
A fun song to listen to.
I think that was a very goodMinute with Jimmy Minute with
Jimmy Filter.
Hey man, nice Shot peaked atnumber 76 on Billboard Hot 100,
august 12, 1995.
An industrial song, kind ofNine Inch Nails sounding.
Richard Patrick was a formermember of Nine Inch Nails so
(39:26):
it's not surprising that it wassounding like them.
I wish I would have met you Nowit's a little late what you
could have taught me.
I could have saved some face.
This song has to do with I'mgoing to say it's 1987, jimmy
but there was a guy inPennsylvania.
He was a politician.
(39:47):
I don't know if he was a countypolitician, I honestly don't
remember but he took his ownlife live during a press
conference and this song comesfrom that.
There's actually a few songsout there that talk about that
incident.
Now, maybe not talk about itbut kind of reference it, or
that was the inspiration for thesong.
(40:09):
Hey man, nice Shot by Filter isone of them.
Gangster's Paradise Coolio,featuring LV, peaked at number
one on Billboard Hot 100September 9th 1995 from the
movie Dangerous Minds.
You ever see that movie?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
I didn't either, but I know the song.
I actually sent someone a textyesterday and I said I know
people think Coolio is dead, butI just saw him in the Arby's
parking lot and this guy hadthat hair.
you know it looked just likeCoolio's hair and I did a double
take.
I was like and I'm like, no,he's dead, it can't be him, but
(40:48):
it looked just like him.
We've reached that point.
If you want to reach out to us,you can at musicinmyshoes at
gmailcom.
Please like and follow theMusic In my Shoes Facebook and
Instagram pages.
That's it for episode 95 ofMusic In my Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of
Arcade 160 Studios located righthere in Atlanta, georgia, and
(41:10):
Vic Thrill for the podcast music.
This is Jim Boge and I hope youlearned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
A poem.
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