E97 John Bonham, Top Drummers, Almost Famous, The Odd Couple, Plus APB and Camper Van Beethoven Live
September 21, 2025 • 35 mins
Music shapes our memories and creates connections across generations, from legendary drummers who defined rock to the venues that launched careers and the songs that withstand time.
• John Bonham of Led Zeppelin died September 25, 1980, at age 32
• Exploration of the greatest drummers of all time across various lists
• Hal Blaine, session drummer extraordinaire, played on over 35,000 songs including hits by The Beach Boys, Simon & Garfunkel, and Frank Sinatra
• Cameron Crowe's "Almost Famous" premiered September 22, 2000, drawing from his teenage experiences writing for Rolling Stone
• The film features Stillwater, a fictional band incorporating elements from various bands Crowe encountered
• "The Odd Couple" premiered on television September 24, 1970, with the "Password" episode remaining a fan favorite
• APB live at My Father's Place in Roslyn, New York, a venue crucial in launching careers of bands like Billy Joel and The Police
• Camper Van Beethoven's 40th anniversary performance of 'Telephone Free Landslide Victory' at 40 Watt, Athens, GA
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Bogeand you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 97.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
On September 25th 1980, afterdrinking heavily from the
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previous day, led Zeppelindrummer John Bonham died at age
32 after vomiting in his sleepand choking on it.
After vomiting in his sleep andchoking on it.
A truly great drummer thatmeant so much to the band that
they announced in December 1980that they would not continue as
they were effectively ending theband Led Zeppelin.
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And I remember the day I'vetalked about it on the show
before I was at my friendRobin's house in Levittown, new
York, and there was a few of usthere and honestly I don't even
remember.
I know Robin was there becauseit was her house, but there was
some other people and we're onthe front yard talking.
(01:39):
It was after school, I think wewent there after class,
something like that, and someonefound out that John Bonham died
.
And you know, we're just likesitting there and we're talking
and like we couldn't believe it,like John Bonham of Led
Zeppelin, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And you didn't find out on the Internet back then
it's like you had to, somebodyhad to call you or somebody had
to see it on the TV news and youknow people would like call
each other's landline to tellthem that stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, I think it was.
Actually.
They announced it on the radioand then the landline phone
chain was beginning.
Like you said, I was 13 at thetime and it was a big deal.
You know, it was a big deal,like man, like led zeppelin, you
know, in through the outdoorhad come out in 1979 and so
that's, you know, roughly abouta year earlier from this time
and the song fool in the rain itreached number 21 on billboard,
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I believe it was, and that waslike probably seven months
before, so say, that's likeFebruary of 1980.
So you're talking about there'sstill a band, you're still
hearing them.
Their album In Through theOutdoor was still on the top 200
charts of Billboard, you know,probably until June or so.
(03:00):
So it was something that wasthere and they were getting
ready to do a North Americantour.
Yeah, and it was.
You know, the day before werethe first rehearsals for the
1980 North American tour and hedrank, like I've read different
things, but one thing that seemsto be in common thing that
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seems to be in common somethinglike 40 shots of vodka and it
just, it's just unbelievable.
That is, you know, and to thinkthat you go to sleep
effectively probably passed out.
You know we say go to sleep,but you know, passed out and
some people put him into a bed.
Some people put him into a bedand unfortunately, you know, he
choked on his vomit and and losthis life.
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So rolling stone listed theirhundred greatest drummers of all
time.
We talked a couple episodes ago.
You know jimmy hendrix and youknow the greatest guitarist, so
I thought I would look up.
You know who people thought thegreatest drummers were.
All right, okay.
So one thing I don't think Imentioned when we talked about
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Jimi Hendrix, I didn't realizeso many people would have him at
number one.
I looked at a ton of differentlists.
I didn't talk about all of them, but I looked at a ton and he
was number one on so many 50years later after his death, I
think that's pretty cool.
It is so Rolling Stone 100Greatest Drummers.
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Number five Hal Blaine, part ofthe Wrecking Crew.
Oh, yeah, okay, probably thedrummer that you don't have any
idea who he is but has played onmore songs than you would
imagine Over 35,000 songs he'splayed on.
Oh wow, 150 top 10 hits and 40songs to top the charts at
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number one.
So I'm just going to read offbecause I had to make a list.
I didn't want to forget.
I wrote down a bunch of thesesongs that he's on, and this is
not all of them.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm not about to go through 35,000 songs.
Don't go through it, don't.
Yeah, I'm not going to do that,Not even like half of them.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, no, Okay.
So Surf City by Jan and Dean.
Surf City is one of my favoritesongs of all time.
Love this song.
And you know they had a littlebit of a rivalry with the Beach
Boys, but at the same time theydidn't, because Dean Torrance
would sing on some of the BeachBoys songs or they would come
out with a song and then theother band would just basically
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take the same music and changethe words and you know they got
along.
They really did.
I Get Around by the Beach Boys.
Hal Blaine was the drummer.
Everybody Loves Somebody.
By Dean Martin.
Hmm, Mr Tambourine, man theBirds, I Got you.
Babe, Sonny and Cher.
Eve of Destruction by BarryMcGuire.
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I love that song.
That song is so different thanso many songs and listening to
it today, still it's excellent,Excellent song.
Monday, Monday, the Mamas andthe Papas.
Okay, we're talking about songs.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Hal Blaine was the drummer on it, and all these are
kind of packed though withinthat late 60s, early 70s window,
right.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, strangers in the Night.
Frank Sinatra, good Vibrations.
The Beach Boys, mrs Robinson,simon and Garfunkel.
Close to you.
The Carpenters, I Think I Loveyou.
The Partridge Family Song, sungBlue, neil Diamond, another
great song right there, we couldtalk about that one all day.
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Thank God I'm a Country Boy.
By John Denver and I'll leaveit off with Love Will Keep Us
Together.
By Captain and Tennille yeah,love that one.
I mean just some great songs.
So Rolling Stones.
Number four drummer Neil Peartfrom Rush.
Number three Ginger Baker fromCream.
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So Cream was Ginger Baker, ericClapton, jack Bruce, and they
did the songs Strange Brew,sunshine of your Love, white
Room, crossroads, badge We'vetalked about Badge.
Eric Clapton wrote that withGeorge Harrison and George
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Harrison was trying to read thepaper upside down and it said
Bridge and all of a sudden he'slike what's Badge?
And Eric Clapton loved it somuch he ended up calling the
song Badge, even though the wordhas nothing to do with the song
at all.
Number two Keith Moon of thewho.
The who who also died, you know, um, from choking you know,
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yeah, so it's a common thingnumber one, john bonham.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
If we move over to consequence, and you know spinal
tap, that's one of theirdrummers died choking on vomit
and the thing they say isthey're not exactly sure whose
vomit it was, because you can'treally dust for vomit.
They say there you go.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You can do DNA now, of course.
There you go.
So consequence number five DaveWeckl.
He did solo work and with theChick Corea Electric Band kind
of a jazz guy.
Number four Gene Krupa, jazzdrummer.
He was kind of like the firstdrum star where he wasn't the
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guy in the back.
They moved him up towards thefront so that they could
highlight him and you know,people just kind of enjoyed that
.
Number three, neil from Rush,again.
Number two, buddy Rich, anotherjazz drummer, and number one,
john Bonham.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I'm going to throw somebody out there.
See what you think about thisone, sammy Davis Jr.
Have you ever seen him playdrums?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I think I've only seen him do that on the Jerry
Lewis telethon.
To be honest with you, Iprobably saw something similar.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
He would do it in his regular act, but yeah, he was a
good drummer.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
He actually was a pretty good drummer.
But I think it's one thing tobe able to do a little skit of
drumming and do that as comparedto being like a drummer that
drums along with you know, yeah,a band through multiple songs
and everything.
Like you know they say fake ituntil you make it like.
I think we can all fake itthrough one thing I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You think you could play drums like sammy davis jr
for one song air drums maybemaybe you know what I'm getting
a little older.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Even the air drums are are getting a little little
uh slow these days.
But you know, I, you know, I, Isee what you mean, but I think
that maybe not everybody can doeverything.
That's a good point, but Ithink that but anyway, I'm just
throwing kudos to sammy yeah, no, no.
I agree with you 100% that hewas able to do something instead
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of, you know, just singingCandyman.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
There you go, so Wickamundi 10 best drummers of
all time.
I wanted to go with this onelast, number 10, ringo Starr of
the Beatles, number 9, I didn'tsee this one coming at all and
this is part of why I did thetop 10 from this particular
thing.
Danny Carey of Tool.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
All right.
Number eight Art Blakey,another jazz guy.
Number seven Ginger Baker ofCream.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
By the way, there's a good documentary about Ginger
Baker.
It's like call me Mr Baker orsomething like that.
Really good documentary.
He was a nut.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'll have to check it out.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I definitely will check that out.
Number six, stuart Copeland ofthe Police, number five, gene
Krupa, number four, keith Moon,number three, buddy Rich, number
two, neil Peart Peart andnumber one John Bonham.
But I think you know for themost part, when you look at
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these lists, people are prettymuch in line with who the best
drummers are.
Yeah, you know, whether theywere rock or jazz or whatever
they may be.
I think that's pretty cool tohave that.
I like it, me too.
Almost Famous.
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The movie premiered September22nd 2000.
A Cameron Crowe film.
The movie's similar to histeenage years.
You know he wrote for RollingStone magazine.
He was like 16 years old and Ithink he went out with the
Allman Brothers band.
Might have been his first youknow gig like go on the road
with them for three weeks andtell us everything about them.
And he's like 16 years old, youknow.
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So this movie, while it's not,you know, like an autobiography,
there's some autobiographicalthings and one of the things
Cameron Crowe has said is thatthe band Stillwater in the movie
there's bits and pieces fromall of the bands that he spent
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time with.
That he spent time with, oh,you know.
So this singer is representedby this person and this thing
that happened is you know justdifferent things that he brings
into it.
And you know it's really aboutStillwater.
It's about their ups and theirdowns.
It's about this kid goingaround and watching them to do
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this Rolling Stone magazine.
It's about betrayal in multipleways throughout the movie.
You know betrayal to the kidfrom the band, betrayal to Penny
Lane, the Band-Aid you knowjust different things.
You know the film takes place inthe 70s.
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You know 70s rock and roll wasdefinitely a crazy place, a
crazy time to be um billy crewedup as russell hammond.
You know one of the maincharacters, jason lee, is jeff
and you know the dynamics of thetwo of them working together is
a big part of the film.
And k Kate Hudson was PennyLane and I thought she just did
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a fantastic job.
You know I'm a huge Goldie Hawnfan, that you know.
That was her mom and it stillis her mom actually.
But you know, you know I'mtrying to say, but I think that
Kate Hudson does a really goodjob.
I enjoyed watching her in thefilm.
And Patrick Fugit is the guythat plays William Miller, who's
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based on Cameron Crowe, and Ithink he does a great job of
that innocence of you.
Know what it's like to be onthe road.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I wonder how old he actually was when he played that
part yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Seems like one of those guys that probably looked
a little younger than he reallywas, but you know he was
supposed to be what 16?
.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, I think 16 in the film.
So I don't know if you knewthis, but on all the Stillwater
songs, so when they're playingin the film, all of the lead
guitar work was done by MikeMcCready of Pearl Jam.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I didn't know that.
No, that's something new that Ilearned.
And I want to say Nancy Wilsonof Heart and Cameron Crowe wrote
like two or three of the songsbecause they were married.
They were married for a longtime.
I know they're not anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And they wrote some.
But then Peter Frampton wrotelike two songs also.
So these Stillwater songs, youhave these.
You know this band that's madeup of Led Zeppelin and yes, and
you know all these differentbands that the Allman Brothers,
that Cameron Crowe saw, but thenyou have the songs written by
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Nancy Wilson from Heart andCameron Crowe and Peter Frampton
.
I mean it's just super cool howthey do all that.
I think it's a good movie.
Did you enjoy it?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I did yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I think it's a movie I can watch, you know, multiple
times and I have, and everysingle time enjoy it as much as
I did before.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I don't think I've seen it, since it was in the
theaters as much as I did before.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I don't think I've seen it, since it was in the
theaters.
So I will say one of the coolthings you know we just talked
about John Bonham from LedZeppelin is Cameron Crowe took
that movie and he went over toEngland and he sat down with
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page andsaid I want to use some Led
Zeppelin songs in the movie.
And they're like you know, wedon't give our songs out.
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We've only done it once beforeand that was when we did Fast
Times at Bridgemont High, whichhappened to be a Cameron Crowe
movie.
So he sat them down and heexplained to them what he wanted
to do and I think it was likefour songs they gave the rights
to, but they refused to give therights to Stairway to Heaven
the rights to, but they refusedto give the rights to Stairway
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to Heaven.
And if you watch like you knowhow you can get the DVD bonus
editions and everything.
When they were going to playStairway to Heaven they're like
start Stairway to Heaven now.
So you would know that's whereit was supposed to play, you
know.
But anyway, it's a good movieand it, you know, it's cool to
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see.
Hey, this is what the 70s werelike.
It's cool to see, just a coolrock and roll film.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Now do you know what Led Zeppelin song was used in
Fast Times Cashmere?
Yes, and it was not supposed tobe, according to the rules that
Mike Damone had given to MarkRatner.
That is correct, he said,whenever possible, play side one
of Led Zeppelin IV.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I think that's what he said.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And instead he played physical graffiti.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yes, and when I heard you know, because I've seen
Fast Times a billion times whenit first came out that was the
dollar theater that I would justgo to all the time.
And the first time I saw it andI heard that, I'm like what are
they talking about?
That's not on that album.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, but it was like an inside joke.
You had to know Led Zeppelin'scatalog to get the joke.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Right, and I think when they started, aren't they
like driving in a car?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, they're in the car.
Isn't that the scene?
They're in the car.
It's really.
You could cut the tension witha knife type of thing.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yes, when you look at it, there is lots of tension
for sure, yeah, hey.
So if you're not seeing thatfilm, that really is a good rock
and roll film, Almost famous.
The Odd Couple premiered ontelevision September 24th 1970,
starred Tony Randall as FelixUnger, Jack Klugman as Oscar
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Madison, and they were bothdivorced, living in Oscar's New
York City apartment, and theycouldn't be any more different.
They were like the extremepolar opposites.
Jimmy, do you remember the show?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yes, of course, great show.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Do you remember how it would start off with?
On November 13th, felix Ungerwas asked to remove himself from
his place of residence.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
And then it goes through you know all this stuff,
and then that was back when thethe opening credits to a show
would explain the entire premiseof the show to you.
Correct yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
And then it would be done, done, done, you know, and
like you would be like man.
That theme song is a classic.
It is fantastic.
I just love it.
So my favorite episode,unfortunately, is an episode
that's the favorite of manypeople.
Usually, my favorite is usuallynot what everybody else's
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favorite is yeah.
But it happens to be, and ithappened to be the Password
episode.
There was a game calledPassword, Jimmy.
You know about games.
Is there a game still out therecalled Password?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
There might be, I don't know.
There have been a lot ofiterations of it over the years.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So this is the one that had Alan Ludden as the host
.
He was famous in his own rightthat Alan Ludden as the host, he
was famous in his own right andBetty White was one of the
contestants that Felix and Oscarwere going against.
It was Betty White and she hada partner and Betty White is
playing Betty White as a famousperson.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Right, okay, you know Alan Ludden was married to
Betty White.
I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah.
So Felix gets the word bird andyou know he's going to give the
clue.
He gives Oscar this clue and hesays Aristophanes.
And Oscar looks puzzled andsays Greek.
And that's the wrong answer.
I said it was Bird.
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It moves over to Betty Whiteand her partner.
Her partner says Canary andBetty White responds Bird.
They get the points.
You know.
The show goes to a commercialand they all look at Felix and
they all say at the same time,including Alan and Betty and
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everybody, aristophanes.
And he says everybody knowsthat he wrote a play called the
Birds and that was his thinkingof why everyone should know.
Yeah, so Oscar says a bunch ofstuff, but basically he's kind
of like give me good clues abunch of stuff.
But basically he's kind of likegive me good clues, no more
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Greek clues.
Aristophanes is ridiculous.
And they come out of thecommercial.
And Oscar gets the next clueand the word is ridiculous and
he says to Felix with like a madface and his hands you know the
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way a New Yorker would talkAristophanes and Felix goes
ridiculous.
And it's just so funny when youwatch it.
Last clue of the game the wordis pencil.
So Oscar decides to go withlead, okay, and Felix answers
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graphite.
And Betty's team wins when theysay writing and she says pencil
and the game's over and Felixrefuses to go.
He's like that's the rightanswer.
You know you're all wrong andstuff.
It was.
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It's a funny episode, it's agood time.
It really is.
The show was good.
The show ended with Felixactually remarrying his wife.
That had kicked him out.
Oh, I didn't know that.
His wife, gloria.
Yes, very interesting.
Another thing that'sinteresting I got to see APB,
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friend of the show they playedin New York.
I was there a week ago and theyplayed at my father's place in
Roslyn, new York.
And first let me say myfather's place even though it's
not in the same place it was inthe 70s is that this place is
where all the bands would playwhen they were nobody or just
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starting to become someone thePolice, ramones, talking Heads,
good Rats, patti Smith Group,tom Petty they all graced the
stage at one point or another.
Like that was the place on LongIsland that you would go.
You know there was a few clubsin the city but if you wanted to
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go and be seen and heard,people would go to my father's
place because they knew whoeverwas playing was going to be good
.
He didn't really allow coverbands and when I say he, I mean
Epi, and Epi was the guy thatstarted my father's place.
That continues it now and I gotto meet him and speak with him
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a little bit.
Great guy, really enjoyedtalking to him, he was fun and
he's just right at the door soas you're going in immediately,
you know you can just say helloto him and it just a real good
guy.
How old do you think?
Eppie is 70 something.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I mean, if all those bands were playing there.
He must have been pretty youngthen, in the 70s, when he was
yeah, I mean mid-70s I'd say.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
But man, it was fun.
It was a good conversation.
He really was.
You know, he didn't need totalk with me.
He actually got up and we kindof stepped away so that we could
kind of just talk and it wasfun.
It was really cool getting tomeet Eppie, someone that you've
heard about forever.
Hi, I'm Eppie, from my Father'sPlace at the Roslyn Hotel and
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you're listening to Music in myShoes.
So, jimmy, I know I talked justa ton there about Eppie, but I
did in fact see APB at myFather's Place the other night
and it was a great show.
You know Ian Slater on vocalsand bass, john Russell on drums,
stuart Brown on guitar andanother guy, john, on keyboards
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and percussion.
So they normally have been athree-person band.
Recently they used to be afour-person band.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And they have gone back to the fourth person and
it's the percussion andkeyboards and it made a world of
difference.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Oh great.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
They could play some songs that they weren't able to
play before.
So it was fun.
It was a really good time.
Now, john the drummer is notthe same as george.
George was on the show.
George was the original drummerokay, he is retired, but john I
had seen him 2022, he was notable to make it.
And this guy, john, who was thefourth guy, actually played
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drums for the band during thatshow.
You know that string of showsfor them.
It was fun, had a great time atthe show.
Went with a friend of the show,chris Cassidy, along with some
other guys that I went to highschool with, and the place was
sold out.
They sounded great, playedgreat songs.
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It was excellent.
Hung out with the band for afew hours after the show, had
just lots of laughs.
Good times.
It was well worth it.
Cool, very cool.
So one of the cool things thatmy Father's Place did with WLIR
and this is even before WLIR was, you know, alternative new wave
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, when they were just kind oflike a rock crazy song radio
station.
They would broadcast the showlive once a week from my
Father's place.
So it could be the Police, itcould be the Ramones, it could
be China Crisis it could be.
You know all these bands and Iwould tape all these shows and
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it was just it was really cooland they ran that forever.
So they really promoted music,a lot of new music by a lot of
new bands, and it was just coolto be able to hear them from
their beginnings.
Very cool.
And speaking of beginnings, Iwent and saw Camper Van
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Beethoven last night, which isDavid Lowery.
Before he was in Cracker he wasin Camper Van Beethoven and
they played the 40th anniversaryof Telephone Free Landslide
Victory, their debut album, andit was really cool.
All original members and theysounded excellent.
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They sounded like they justrecorded it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
That's cool because he normally does a camper show
just with the same people fromhis cracker band.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, he got all the originals all the originals yeah
, all the originals were in itand it was just just super cool,
um, just hearing them play thesongs the way the songs were
intended to be played, and youknow the that Lassie went to the
moon.
(27:11):
Where the hell is, bill?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I forgot about that song.
Maybe he went to you knowsomething.
Yeah, it's a great yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I mean, it's a great song when you look at it and a
ton of the songs areinstrumentals but they're well
thought out, well playedinstrumentals.
You know.
They're not just a lot of theinstrumentals kind of reminded
me of they might be giants youknow they have a guy that plays
uh accordion.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Both bands and you know some of it reminded me of
they might be giants yeah, it'sa little bit comedic and kind of
you can tell they're, they're,but they're being dumb, yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh, definitely.
And of course, take theskinheads bowling, which has got
them on the map.
A song that none of the wordshave anything to do with the
previous words, they're just,you know, a song about nothing
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and it still is something thatyou know.
I've seen david lowry, solocracker, camper van beethoven,
and when he plays that song,like everybody knows the words
to it and everybody joins in.
You know the chorus and it'sjust a great.
It's a great sing-along song,you know, especially a song that
means nothing, that it stillholds, holds its wealth.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
All these years later my band the Violence, used to
cover that back in the day.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Oh, really, yeah, oh, very nice.
So yeah, 40 Watt in Athens, youknow, went last night, got to
see some of the members ofCracker, got to see Brian Howard
.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
So it was pretty cool and had a real good time.
I think I liked it so muchbecause they sounded so good.
A lot of times when people dothe 40th anniversary or
something, it's slower.
Your voice isn't like thatanymore.
Your voice isn't like thatanymore.
This was really good.
Really enjoyed it.
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Good to hear.
Let's revisit some more musicin my shoes, and you know what.
Let's get started with Tick,tick, tick.
It's Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Minute with Jimmy Talking today about the Black
Sabbath album Paranoid.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy, minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy Talking todayabout the Black Sabbath album,
paranoid.
Now, we did just talk aboutBlack Sabbath a few months ago
because this album came outseven months after their first
album.
Black Sabbath and Paranoid waslike such a growth moment for
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them, like this is when theyreally defined what heavy metal
was and what heavy metal wasgoing to be for the next, like
two decades really.
When you look at songs likeParanoid and War Pigs and what's
another one I'm forgetting Ironman, you know.
I mean those songs wereabsolutely classics that fit in
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in the 80s as well as they did Imean better than they did in
1970 when it came out.
So, yeah, this album came out55 years ago.
Is that right?
Yeah, and uh, just a reallyreally cool way ahead of its
time album, as we've discussedbefore.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I agree, Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
See how well I time it these days.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I agree, Jimmy Isn't like Electric Funeral on that
album also it is yeah.
It's a great album and it'sanother one of those albums that
I think that people wanted tolearn the songs.
Musicians Not that I hung outwith a lot.
I did take a music class inhigh school, a guitar class, and
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it seemed like everybody wantedto learn how to play Paranoid.
I'm thinking that I can play iton one string, the cheap, quick
way, but everybody wanted to beable to do that and, like you
want to impress someone, youjust start busting that out and
people are like whoa, you know,wow, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
It is.
It's a really instantlyrecognizable thing that
impresses people.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Hey, you know what I like that minute with Jimmy.
Thank you, you're welcome.
Minute with Jimmy OrchestralManeuvers in the Dark Enola Gay.
The single was released onSeptember 26, 1980.
The plane Enola Gay dropped theatomic bomb on Hiroshima on
August 6, 1945, killingsomewhere between like 100,000
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and 150,000 people, and thatkind of made the war come to an
end pretty quickly.
After that, a synthesizer-richsong, it was played often during
the early days of WLIR radiowhen it had switched to new wave
alternative, and it was a songthat I would hear often.
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And the music, if you justlisten to it, it's just really
great musically.
And even if they just sangabout something totally
different, it would still be agreat song because music-wise
it's just fantastic.
So the pilot named the planeafter his mother.
His mother's name was Enola GayTibbetts.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Oh, I never knew that , yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
So that was September 26th 1980.
The next day, curtis Blow, theBreaks, peaked on September 27th
1980 at number 87 on BillboardHot 100.
Clap your hands, everybody, ifyou've got what it takes,
(32:53):
because I'm Curtis Blow and Iwant you to know that these are
the breaks First certified goldrap song.
Oh, so I call it an EddieMarone song and I talked about
that, you know, probably 50episodes ago of a guy, eddie Mar
Marone, who was a DJ and hewould do parties and have
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parties at his house and therewere these certain songs that he
would play.
This was one of those songsthat he would play and so it's
an Eddie Marone song in in myheart and in my head.
So if you have any questionsabout any of the things we
talked about today we talkedabout, you know, the top
drummers.
You know we talked recentlyabout the top guitarists.
(33:36):
We talked about Almost Famous.
You want to reach out and chimein?
Feel free at musicinmyshoes atgmailcom.
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That's it for Episode 97 ofMusic in my Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of
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Arcade 160 Studios located righthere in Atlanta, georgia, and
Vic Thrill for our podcast music.
This is Jim Boge, and I hopeyou learned something new or
remembered something old We'llmeet again on our next episode.
Oh, you know what that remindsme?
We'll meet again.
I took that.
There's a song called We'llMeet Again and there's a bunch
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of different versions of that.
I love the Turtles version andMark Vollman.
He died on September 5th 2025.
He had been part of the Turtlesand he was part of Flo and
Eddie.
But when I say we'll meet again, that was something that I took
right from them.
So, mark, rest in peace.
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We'll meet again.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
And these are the breaks Breakit up.
These are the breaks.
Break it up, break it up.
Break it up, break down yo.
He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Bogeand you're listening to Music
In my Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 97.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
On September 25th 1980, afterdrinking heavily from the
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previous day, led Zeppelindrummer John Bonham died at age
32 after vomiting in his sleepand choking on it.
After vomiting in his sleep andchoking on it.
A truly great drummer thatmeant so much to the band that
they announced in December 1980that they would not continue as
they were effectively ending theband Led Zeppelin.
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And I remember the day I'vetalked about it on the show
before I was at my friendRobin's house in Levittown, new
York, and there was a few of usthere and honestly I don't even
remember.
I know Robin was there becauseit was her house, but there was
some other people and we're onthe front yard talking.
(01:39):
It was after school, I think wewent there after class,
something like that, and someonefound out that John Bonham died
.
And you know, we're just likesitting there and we're talking
and like we couldn't believe it,like John Bonham of Led
Zeppelin, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And you didn't find out on the Internet back then
it's like you had to, somebodyhad to call you or somebody had
to see it on the TV news and youknow people would like call
each other's landline to tellthem that stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, I think it was.
Actually.
They announced it on the radioand then the landline phone
chain was beginning.
Like you said, I was 13 at thetime and it was a big deal.
You know, it was a big deal,like man, like led zeppelin, you
know, in through the outdoorhad come out in 1979 and so
that's, you know, roughly abouta year earlier from this time
and the song fool in the rain itreached number 21 on billboard,
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I believe it was, and that waslike probably seven months
before, so say, that's likeFebruary of 1980.
So you're talking about there'sstill a band, you're still
hearing them.
Their album In Through theOutdoor was still on the top 200
charts of Billboard, you know,probably until June or so.
(03:00):
So it was something that wasthere and they were getting
ready to do a North Americantour.
Yeah, and it was.
You know, the day before werethe first rehearsals for the
1980 North American tour and hedrank, like I've read different
things, but one thing that seemsto be in common thing that
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seems to be in common somethinglike 40 shots of vodka and it
just, it's just unbelievable.
That is, you know, and to thinkthat you go to sleep
effectively probably passed out.
You know we say go to sleep,but you know, passed out and
some people put him into a bed.
Some people put him into a bedand unfortunately, you know, he
choked on his vomit and and losthis life.
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So rolling stone listed theirhundred greatest drummers of all
time.
We talked a couple episodes ago.
You know jimmy hendrix and youknow the greatest guitarist, so
I thought I would look up.
You know who people thought thegreatest drummers were.
All right, okay.
So one thing I don't think Imentioned when we talked about
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Jimi Hendrix, I didn't realizeso many people would have him at
number one.
I looked at a ton of differentlists.
I didn't talk about all of them, but I looked at a ton and he
was number one on so many 50years later after his death, I
think that's pretty cool.
It is so Rolling Stone 100Greatest Drummers.
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Number five Hal Blaine, part ofthe Wrecking Crew.
Oh, yeah, okay, probably thedrummer that you don't have any
idea who he is but has played onmore songs than you would
imagine Over 35,000 songs he'splayed on.
Oh wow, 150 top 10 hits and 40songs to top the charts at
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number one.
So I'm just going to read offbecause I had to make a list.
I didn't want to forget.
I wrote down a bunch of thesesongs that he's on, and this is
not all of them.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm not about to go through 35,000 songs.
Don't go through it, don't.
Yeah, I'm not going to do that,Not even like half of them.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, no, Okay.
So Surf City by Jan and Dean.
Surf City is one of my favoritesongs of all time.
Love this song.
And you know they had a littlebit of a rivalry with the Beach
Boys, but at the same time theydidn't, because Dean Torrance
would sing on some of the BeachBoys songs or they would come
out with a song and then theother band would just basically
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take the same music and changethe words and you know they got
along.
They really did.
I Get Around by the Beach Boys.
Hal Blaine was the drummer.
Everybody Loves Somebody.
By Dean Martin.
Hmm, Mr Tambourine, man theBirds, I Got you.
Babe, Sonny and Cher.
Eve of Destruction by BarryMcGuire.
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I love that song.
That song is so different thanso many songs and listening to
it today, still it's excellent,Excellent song.
Monday, Monday, the Mamas andthe Papas.
Okay, we're talking about songs.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Hal Blaine was the drummer on it, and all these are
kind of packed though withinthat late 60s, early 70s window,
right.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, strangers in the Night.
Frank Sinatra, good Vibrations.
The Beach Boys, mrs Robinson,simon and Garfunkel.
Close to you.
The Carpenters, I Think I Loveyou.
The Partridge Family Song, sungBlue, neil Diamond, another
great song right there, we couldtalk about that one all day.
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Thank God I'm a Country Boy.
By John Denver and I'll leaveit off with Love Will Keep Us
Together.
By Captain and Tennille yeah,love that one.
I mean just some great songs.
So Rolling Stones.
Number four drummer Neil Peartfrom Rush.
Number three Ginger Baker fromCream.
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So Cream was Ginger Baker, ericClapton, jack Bruce, and they
did the songs Strange Brew,sunshine of your Love, white
Room, crossroads, badge We'vetalked about Badge.
Eric Clapton wrote that withGeorge Harrison and George
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Harrison was trying to read thepaper upside down and it said
Bridge and all of a sudden he'slike what's Badge?
And Eric Clapton loved it somuch he ended up calling the
song Badge, even though the wordhas nothing to do with the song
at all.
Number two Keith Moon of thewho.
The who who also died, you know, um, from choking you know,
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yeah, so it's a common thingnumber one, john bonham.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
If we move over to consequence, and you know spinal
tap, that's one of theirdrummers died choking on vomit
and the thing they say isthey're not exactly sure whose
vomit it was, because you can'treally dust for vomit.
They say there you go.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You can do DNA now, of course.
There you go.
So consequence number five DaveWeckl.
He did solo work and with theChick Corea Electric Band kind
of a jazz guy.
Number four Gene Krupa, jazzdrummer.
He was kind of like the firstdrum star where he wasn't the
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guy in the back.
They moved him up towards thefront so that they could
highlight him and you know,people just kind of enjoyed that
.
Number three, neil from Rush,again.
Number two, buddy Rich, anotherjazz drummer, and number one,
john Bonham.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I'm going to throw somebody out there.
See what you think about thisone, sammy Davis Jr.
Have you ever seen him playdrums?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I think I've only seen him do that on the Jerry
Lewis telethon.
To be honest with you, Iprobably saw something similar.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
He would do it in his regular act, but yeah, he was a
good drummer.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
He actually was a pretty good drummer.
But I think it's one thing tobe able to do a little skit of
drumming and do that as comparedto being like a drummer that
drums along with you know, yeah,a band through multiple songs
and everything.
Like you know they say fake ituntil you make it like.
I think we can all fake itthrough one thing I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You think you could play drums like sammy davis jr
for one song air drums maybemaybe you know what I'm getting
a little older.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Even the air drums are are getting a little little
uh slow these days.
But you know, I, you know, I, Isee what you mean, but I think
that maybe not everybody can doeverything.
That's a good point, but Ithink that but anyway, I'm just
throwing kudos to sammy yeah, no, no.
I agree with you 100% that hewas able to do something instead
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of, you know, just singingCandyman.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
There you go, so Wickamundi 10 best drummers of
all time.
I wanted to go with this onelast, number 10, ringo Starr of
the Beatles, number 9, I didn'tsee this one coming at all and
this is part of why I did thetop 10 from this particular
thing.
Danny Carey of Tool.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
All right.
Number eight Art Blakey,another jazz guy.
Number seven Ginger Baker ofCream.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
By the way, there's a good documentary about Ginger
Baker.
It's like call me Mr Baker orsomething like that.
Really good documentary.
He was a nut.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'll have to check it out.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I definitely will check that out.
Number six, stuart Copeland ofthe Police, number five, gene
Krupa, number four, keith Moon,number three, buddy Rich, number
two, neil Peart Peart andnumber one John Bonham.
But I think you know for themost part, when you look at
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these lists, people are prettymuch in line with who the best
drummers are.
Yeah, you know, whether theywere rock or jazz or whatever
they may be.
I think that's pretty cool tohave that.
I like it, me too.
Almost Famous.
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The movie premiered September22nd 2000.
A Cameron Crowe film.
The movie's similar to histeenage years.
You know he wrote for RollingStone magazine.
He was like 16 years old and Ithink he went out with the
Allman Brothers band.
Might have been his first youknow gig like go on the road
with them for three weeks andtell us everything about them.
And he's like 16 years old, youknow.
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So this movie, while it's not,you know, like an autobiography,
there's some autobiographicalthings and one of the things
Cameron Crowe has said is thatthe band Stillwater in the movie
there's bits and pieces fromall of the bands that he spent
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time with.
That he spent time with, oh,you know.
So this singer is representedby this person and this thing
that happened is you know justdifferent things that he brings
into it.
And you know it's really aboutStillwater.
It's about their ups and theirdowns.
It's about this kid goingaround and watching them to do
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this Rolling Stone magazine.
It's about betrayal in multipleways throughout the movie.
You know betrayal to the kidfrom the band, betrayal to Penny
Lane, the Band-Aid you knowjust different things.
You know the film takes place inthe 70s.
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You know 70s rock and roll wasdefinitely a crazy place, a
crazy time to be um billy crewedup as russell hammond.
You know one of the maincharacters, jason lee, is jeff
and you know the dynamics of thetwo of them working together is
a big part of the film.
And k Kate Hudson was PennyLane and I thought she just did
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a fantastic job.
You know I'm a huge Goldie Hawnfan, that you know.
That was her mom and it stillis her mom actually.
But you know, you know I'mtrying to say, but I think that
Kate Hudson does a really goodjob.
I enjoyed watching her in thefilm.
And Patrick Fugit is the guythat plays William Miller, who's
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based on Cameron Crowe, and Ithink he does a great job of
that innocence of you.
Know what it's like to be onthe road.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I wonder how old he actually was when he played that
part yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Seems like one of those guys that probably looked
a little younger than he reallywas, but you know he was
supposed to be what 16?
.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, I think 16 in the film.
So I don't know if you knewthis, but on all the Stillwater
songs, so when they're playingin the film, all of the lead
guitar work was done by MikeMcCready of Pearl Jam.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I didn't know that.
No, that's something new that Ilearned.
And I want to say Nancy Wilsonof Heart and Cameron Crowe wrote
like two or three of the songsbecause they were married.
They were married for a longtime.
I know they're not anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And they wrote some.
But then Peter Frampton wrotelike two songs also.
So these Stillwater songs, youhave these.
You know this band that's madeup of Led Zeppelin and yes, and
you know all these differentbands that the Allman Brothers,
that Cameron Crowe saw, but thenyou have the songs written by
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Nancy Wilson from Heart andCameron Crowe and Peter Frampton
.
I mean it's just super cool howthey do all that.
I think it's a good movie.
Did you enjoy it?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I did yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I think it's a movie I can watch, you know, multiple
times and I have, and everysingle time enjoy it as much as
I did before.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I don't think I've seen it, since it was in the
theaters as much as I did before.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I don't think I've seen it, since it was in the
theaters.
So I will say one of the coolthings you know we just talked
about John Bonham from LedZeppelin is Cameron Crowe took
that movie and he went over toEngland and he sat down with
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page andsaid I want to use some Led
Zeppelin songs in the movie.
And they're like you know, wedon't give our songs out.
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We've only done it once beforeand that was when we did Fast
Times at Bridgemont High, whichhappened to be a Cameron Crowe
movie.
So he sat them down and heexplained to them what he wanted
to do and I think it was likefour songs they gave the rights
to, but they refused to give therights to Stairway to Heaven
the rights to, but they refusedto give the rights to Stairway
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to Heaven.
And if you watch like you knowhow you can get the DVD bonus
editions and everything.
When they were going to playStairway to Heaven they're like
start Stairway to Heaven now.
So you would know that's whereit was supposed to play, you
know.
But anyway, it's a good movieand it, you know, it's cool to
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see.
Hey, this is what the 70s werelike.
It's cool to see, just a coolrock and roll film.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Now do you know what Led Zeppelin song was used in
Fast Times Cashmere?
Yes, and it was not supposed tobe, according to the rules that
Mike Damone had given to MarkRatner.
That is correct, he said,whenever possible, play side one
of Led Zeppelin IV.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I think that's what he said.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And instead he played physical graffiti.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yes, and when I heard you know, because I've seen
Fast Times a billion times whenit first came out that was the
dollar theater that I would justgo to all the time.
And the first time I saw it andI heard that, I'm like what are
they talking about?
That's not on that album.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, but it was like an inside joke.
You had to know Led Zeppelin'scatalog to get the joke.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Right, and I think when they started, aren't they
like driving in a car?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, they're in the car.
Isn't that the scene?
They're in the car.
It's really.
You could cut the tension witha knife type of thing.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yes, when you look at it, there is lots of tension
for sure, yeah, hey.
So if you're not seeing thatfilm, that really is a good rock
and roll film, Almost famous.
The Odd Couple premiered ontelevision September 24th 1970,
starred Tony Randall as FelixUnger, Jack Klugman as Oscar
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Madison, and they were bothdivorced, living in Oscar's New
York City apartment, and theycouldn't be any more different.
They were like the extremepolar opposites.
Jimmy, do you remember the show?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yes, of course, great show.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Do you remember how it would start off with?
On November 13th, felix Ungerwas asked to remove himself from
his place of residence.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
And then it goes through you know all this stuff,
and then that was back when thethe opening credits to a show
would explain the entire premiseof the show to you.
Correct yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
And then it would be done, done, done, you know, and
like you would be like man.
That theme song is a classic.
It is fantastic.
I just love it.
So my favorite episode,unfortunately, is an episode
that's the favorite of manypeople.
Usually, my favorite is usuallynot what everybody else's
(18:46):
favorite is yeah.
But it happens to be, and ithappened to be the Password
episode.
There was a game calledPassword, Jimmy.
You know about games.
Is there a game still out therecalled Password?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
There might be, I don't know.
There have been a lot ofiterations of it over the years.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So this is the one that had Alan Ludden as the host
.
He was famous in his own rightthat Alan Ludden as the host, he
was famous in his own right andBetty White was one of the
contestants that Felix and Oscarwere going against.
It was Betty White and she hada partner and Betty White is
playing Betty White as a famousperson.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Right, okay, you know Alan Ludden was married to
Betty White.
I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah.
So Felix gets the word bird andyou know he's going to give the
clue.
He gives Oscar this clue and hesays Aristophanes.
And Oscar looks puzzled andsays Greek.
And that's the wrong answer.
I said it was Bird.
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It moves over to Betty Whiteand her partner.
Her partner says Canary andBetty White responds Bird.
They get the points.
You know.
The show goes to a commercialand they all look at Felix and
they all say at the same time,including Alan and Betty and
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everybody, aristophanes.
And he says everybody knowsthat he wrote a play called the
Birds and that was his thinkingof why everyone should know.
Yeah, so Oscar says a bunch ofstuff, but basically he's kind
of like give me good clues abunch of stuff.
But basically he's kind of likegive me good clues, no more
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Greek clues.
Aristophanes is ridiculous.
And they come out of thecommercial.
And Oscar gets the next clueand the word is ridiculous and
he says to Felix with like a madface and his hands you know the
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way a New Yorker would talkAristophanes and Felix goes
ridiculous.
And it's just so funny when youwatch it.
Last clue of the game the wordis pencil.
So Oscar decides to go withlead, okay, and Felix answers
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graphite.
And Betty's team wins when theysay writing and she says pencil
and the game's over and Felixrefuses to go.
He's like that's the rightanswer.
You know you're all wrong andstuff.
It was.
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It's a funny episode, it's agood time.
It really is.
The show was good.
The show ended with Felixactually remarrying his wife.
That had kicked him out.
Oh, I didn't know that.
His wife, gloria.
Yes, very interesting.
Another thing that'sinteresting I got to see APB,
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friend of the show they playedin New York.
I was there a week ago and theyplayed at my father's place in
Roslyn, new York.
And first let me say myfather's place even though it's
not in the same place it was inthe 70s is that this place is
where all the bands would playwhen they were nobody or just
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starting to become someone thePolice, ramones, talking Heads,
good Rats, patti Smith Group,tom Petty they all graced the
stage at one point or another.
Like that was the place on LongIsland that you would go.
You know there was a few clubsin the city but if you wanted to
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go and be seen and heard,people would go to my father's
place because they knew whoeverwas playing was going to be good
.
He didn't really allow coverbands and when I say he, I mean
Epi, and Epi was the guy thatstarted my father's place.
That continues it now and I gotto meet him and speak with him
(23:03):
a little bit.
Great guy, really enjoyedtalking to him, he was fun and
he's just right at the door soas you're going in immediately,
you know you can just say helloto him and it just a real good
guy.
How old do you think?
Eppie is 70 something.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I mean, if all those bands were playing there.
He must have been pretty youngthen, in the 70s, when he was
yeah, I mean mid-70s I'd say.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
But man, it was fun.
It was a good conversation.
He really was.
You know, he didn't need totalk with me.
He actually got up and we kindof stepped away so that we could
kind of just talk and it wasfun.
It was really cool getting tomeet Eppie, someone that you've
heard about forever.
Hi, I'm Eppie, from my Father'sPlace at the Roslyn Hotel and
(23:50):
you're listening to Music in myShoes.
So, jimmy, I know I talked justa ton there about Eppie, but I
did in fact see APB at myFather's Place the other night
and it was a great show.
You know Ian Slater on vocalsand bass, john Russell on drums,
stuart Brown on guitar andanother guy, john, on keyboards
(24:14):
and percussion.
So they normally have been athree-person band.
Recently they used to be afour-person band.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And they have gone back to the fourth person and
it's the percussion andkeyboards and it made a world of
difference.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Oh great.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
They could play some songs that they weren't able to
play before.
So it was fun.
It was a really good time.
Now, john the drummer is notthe same as george.
George was on the show.
George was the original drummerokay, he is retired, but john I
had seen him 2022, he was notable to make it.
And this guy, john, who was thefourth guy, actually played
(24:55):
drums for the band during thatshow.
You know that string of showsfor them.
It was fun, had a great time atthe show.
Went with a friend of the show,chris Cassidy, along with some
other guys that I went to highschool with, and the place was
sold out.
They sounded great, playedgreat songs.
(25:16):
It was excellent.
Hung out with the band for afew hours after the show, had
just lots of laughs.
Good times.
It was well worth it.
Cool, very cool.
So one of the cool things thatmy Father's Place did with WLIR
and this is even before WLIR was, you know, alternative new wave
(25:37):
, when they were just kind oflike a rock crazy song radio
station.
They would broadcast the showlive once a week from my
Father's place.
So it could be the Police, itcould be the Ramones, it could
be China Crisis it could be.
You know all these bands and Iwould tape all these shows and
(25:59):
it was just it was really cooland they ran that forever.
So they really promoted music,a lot of new music by a lot of
new bands, and it was just coolto be able to hear them from
their beginnings.
Very cool.
And speaking of beginnings, Iwent and saw Camper Van
(26:20):
Beethoven last night, which isDavid Lowery.
Before he was in Cracker he wasin Camper Van Beethoven and
they played the 40th anniversaryof Telephone Free Landslide
Victory, their debut album, andit was really cool.
All original members and theysounded excellent.
(26:41):
They sounded like they justrecorded it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
That's cool because he normally does a camper show
just with the same people fromhis cracker band.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, he got all the originals all the originals yeah
, all the originals were in itand it was just just super cool,
um, just hearing them play thesongs the way the songs were
intended to be played, and youknow the that Lassie went to the
moon.
(27:11):
Where the hell is, bill?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I forgot about that song.
Maybe he went to you knowsomething.
Yeah, it's a great yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I mean, it's a great song when you look at it and a
ton of the songs areinstrumentals but they're well
thought out, well playedinstrumentals.
You know.
They're not just a lot of theinstrumentals kind of reminded
me of they might be giants youknow they have a guy that plays
uh accordion.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Both bands and you know some of it reminded me of
they might be giants yeah, it'sa little bit comedic and kind of
you can tell they're, they're,but they're being dumb, yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh, definitely.
And of course, take theskinheads bowling, which has got
them on the map.
A song that none of the wordshave anything to do with the
previous words, they're just,you know, a song about nothing
(28:14):
and it still is something thatyou know.
I've seen david lowry, solocracker, camper van beethoven,
and when he plays that song,like everybody knows the words
to it and everybody joins in.
You know the chorus and it'sjust a great.
It's a great sing-along song,you know, especially a song that
means nothing, that it stillholds, holds its wealth.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
All these years later my band the Violence, used to
cover that back in the day.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Oh, really, yeah, oh, very nice.
So yeah, 40 Watt in Athens, youknow, went last night, got to
see some of the members ofCracker, got to see Brian Howard
.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
So it was pretty cool and had a real good time.
I think I liked it so muchbecause they sounded so good.
A lot of times when people dothe 40th anniversary or
something, it's slower.
Your voice isn't like thatanymore.
Your voice isn't like thatanymore.
This was really good.
Really enjoyed it.
(29:11):
Good to hear.
Let's revisit some more musicin my shoes, and you know what.
Let's get started with Tick,tick, tick.
It's Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Minute with Jimmy Talking today about the Black
Sabbath album Paranoid.
It's time for Minute with Jimmy, minute with Jimmy.
Minute with Jimmy Talking todayabout the Black Sabbath album,
paranoid.
Now, we did just talk aboutBlack Sabbath a few months ago
because this album came outseven months after their first
album.
Black Sabbath and Paranoid waslike such a growth moment for
(29:47):
them, like this is when theyreally defined what heavy metal
was and what heavy metal wasgoing to be for the next, like
two decades really.
When you look at songs likeParanoid and War Pigs and what's
another one I'm forgetting Ironman, you know.
I mean those songs wereabsolutely classics that fit in
(30:11):
in the 80s as well as they did Imean better than they did in
1970 when it came out.
So, yeah, this album came out55 years ago.
Is that right?
Yeah, and uh, just a reallyreally cool way ahead of its
time album, as we've discussedbefore.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I agree, Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
See how well I time it these days.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I agree, Jimmy Isn't like Electric Funeral on that
album also it is yeah.
It's a great album and it'sanother one of those albums that
I think that people wanted tolearn the songs.
Musicians Not that I hung outwith a lot.
I did take a music class inhigh school, a guitar class, and
(30:58):
it seemed like everybody wantedto learn how to play Paranoid.
I'm thinking that I can play iton one string, the cheap, quick
way, but everybody wanted to beable to do that and, like you
want to impress someone, youjust start busting that out and
people are like whoa, you know,wow, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
It is.
It's a really instantlyrecognizable thing that
impresses people.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Hey, you know what I like that minute with Jimmy.
Thank you, you're welcome.
Minute with Jimmy OrchestralManeuvers in the Dark Enola Gay.
The single was released onSeptember 26, 1980.
The plane Enola Gay dropped theatomic bomb on Hiroshima on
August 6, 1945, killingsomewhere between like 100,000
(31:48):
and 150,000 people, and thatkind of made the war come to an
end pretty quickly.
After that, a synthesizer-richsong, it was played often during
the early days of WLIR radiowhen it had switched to new wave
alternative, and it was a songthat I would hear often.
(32:09):
And the music, if you justlisten to it, it's just really
great musically.
And even if they just sangabout something totally
different, it would still be agreat song because music-wise
it's just fantastic.
So the pilot named the planeafter his mother.
His mother's name was Enola GayTibbetts.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Oh, I never knew that , yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
So that was September 26th 1980.
The next day, curtis Blow, theBreaks, peaked on September 27th
1980 at number 87 on BillboardHot 100.
Clap your hands, everybody, ifyou've got what it takes,
(32:53):
because I'm Curtis Blow and Iwant you to know that these are
the breaks First certified goldrap song.
Oh, so I call it an EddieMarone song and I talked about
that, you know, probably 50episodes ago of a guy, eddie Mar
Marone, who was a DJ and hewould do parties and have
(33:14):
parties at his house and therewere these certain songs that he
would play.
This was one of those songsthat he would play and so it's
an Eddie Marone song in in myheart and in my head.
So if you have any questionsabout any of the things we
talked about today we talkedabout, you know, the top
drummers.
You know we talked recentlyabout the top guitarists.
(33:36):
We talked about Almost Famous.
You want to reach out and chimein?
Feel free at musicinmyshoes atgmailcom.
Please like and follow theMusic In my Shoes Facebook and
Instagram pages.
That's it for Episode 97 ofMusic in my Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of
(33:57):
Arcade 160 Studios located righthere in Atlanta, georgia, and
Vic Thrill for our podcast music.
This is Jim Boge, and I hopeyou learned something new or
remembered something old We'llmeet again on our next episode.
Oh, you know what that remindsme?
We'll meet again.
I took that.
There's a song called We'llMeet Again and there's a bunch
(34:20):
of different versions of that.
I love the Turtles version andMark Vollman.
He died on September 5th 2025.
He had been part of the Turtlesand he was part of Flo and
Eddie.
But when I say we'll meet again, that was something that I took
right from them.
So, mark, rest in peace.
(34:41):
We'll meet again.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
And these are the breaks Breakit up.
These are the breaks.
Break it up, break it up.
Break it up, break down yo.
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