October 5, 2025 • 38 mins
We trace a loud, joyful route from under a bridge in Brooklyn to an Atlanta club, catching legends who still hit hard and a tight-knit indie circle that turns baseball into song. Small moments—an unexpected wave, a signed drumhead, a kind word—become the glue of a scene that endures.
• CBGB Festival under the K Bridge with Melvins, Lunachicks, Johnny Marr, The Damned, Jack White, and Iggy Pop
• the Damned’s stamina and goth-tinged White Rabbit standout
• Johnny Marr leading Smiths and Electronic songs with strong vocals
• Jack White spanning The White Stripes, The Raconteurs, and solo cuts
• Iggy Pop at 78 delivering Stooges and solo classics
• festival logistics, pricing for young fans, and crowd culture observations
• Terminal West doubleheader: The Minus 5 and The Baseball Project lineup crossover
• Featuring Scott McCaughey, Peter Buck, Mike Mills, Steve Wynn and Linda Pitmon
• merch win: signed one of a kind drumhead
• music history notes on the Beatles, the Clash, and Red Hot Chili Peppers
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SPEAKER_01 (00:34):
Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're
listening to Music in My Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 99.
I've got 99 Problems, being richain't one.
As always, I'm all right.
Starting it off with a gag.
(00:55):
I like it.
Welcome to episode 99.
I was going to do something withGet Smart, Agent 99.
SPEAKER_03 (01:02):
99, yeah.
What else we got?
99 bottles of beer on the wall?
SPEAKER_01 (01:05):
99 Luft.
SPEAKER_03 (01:06):
We're literally going to sing the whole song,
yeah.
Both of those songs.
SPEAKER_01 (01:09):
That might help us get through this episode.
SPEAKER_03 (01:12):
Well, unfortunately, the podcast gods don't let us
sing songs.
So Jim's gonna do a spoken wordversion of 99 bottles of beer on
the wall.
SPEAKER_01 (01:21):
Nobody wants to hear that.
I know that.
But anyway, listen, in allhonesty, I've got 99 problems,
and being rich ain't one ofthem.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
So I went to the CBGB festival.
(01:42):
Yeah.
It was on September 27, 2025, inBrooklyn, New York.
And it was under the K Bridge.
It's a park, and it's kind ofcool how they set it up.
You literally have a bridge ofroad over your head.
Like I wore a hat because Ithought the sun would get on me.
There's no sun.
(02:03):
The bridge just covers upeverything.
It's no sun.
SPEAKER_03 (02:07):
I mean, they it was as advertised.
It was called Under the K BridgePark.
SPEAKER_01 (02:11):
Yeah, it was fantastic.
It really was.
Get there, you know, it's kindof a little bit of a walk from
where the subway goes.
I mean, it wasn't meant totravel there from the subway.
But I get there and, you know,they're IDing you, and he's
looking, you know, I have aGeorgia license, I'm in
Brooklyn, and he's looking, andhe's looking at me.
(02:32):
And my license looks just likeme, because it actually is so
old, I didn't have a beard on.
And he's looking and everything,and finally I say, You can't
possibly think I'm under 21.
That's like he spent so muchtime.
He goes, You would be surprised.
Earlier, we had two kids tryingto sneak in, one on top of the
(02:53):
shoulders, and they wore a bigtrench coat trying to sneak in.
That there's no way.
Yes.
That's what he told me.
And I was like, this is crazy.
He's pulling your leg.
No, he was pretty serious aboutit.
He really was pretty seriousabout it.
SPEAKER_03 (03:09):
Was it the little rascals?
SPEAKER_01 (03:10):
Uh you know, I don't know.
It could have been because thereare a lot of young folks, a lot
of medium folks, and a lot ofolder folks, you know, at this
festival.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_03 (03:21):
They actually gave better pricing to uh young
people for this.
Did you see that?
SPEAKER_01 (03:26):
I did see that.
I saw that they had um the youngpunks or something it was.
SPEAKER_03 (03:31):
Young punks.
SPEAKER_01 (03:31):
Yeah, and I think that's pretty cool to do that
because obviously, you know, youdon't have as much money when
you're younger and to be able tospend it, but I th I thought
that was a pretty cool thingthat they that they did.
Yeah.
So there was like 20 bands orso.
I stayed at one stage with myfriend Chris Cassidy, friend of
the show Chris Cassidy, and kindof just watched everything that
(03:54):
was on that stage instead oftrying it was difficult to kind
of move between the the stagesjust because there were just so
many people.
And I was at the main stage,starts off with Melvin's, the
Melvins, you know, uh it the guywith the big hair, you know,
that's the first thing anyonewho knows anything about the
(04:15):
Melvins that you think about.
But it was um, you know, it wasgood to see them.
I had never seen them before.
And, you know, they'redefinitely, you know, one of
those bands that were, you know,important.
They didn't make it as big as alot of the other bands.
SPEAKER_03 (04:31):
Yeah, they were influential.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_01 (04:32):
Yeah, they real influential, you know, and you
know, I just was like, Idefinitely want to kind of see
them, and it was great.
Great job.
Really uh enjoyed it.
Lunatics came out, a New York uhcity female punk band, and they
hadn't played together in threeyears.
They actually broke up.
Don't hold me to this, but Iwant to say like the very early,
(04:56):
early 90s, and then they've donesome reunion shows here and
there.
You would have thought thatthey've been playing nonstop.
That's how well it sounded asthey played.
You know, they didn't have anymess ups.
It was like, there's no way theyhaven't played in three years.
Sounded good, really good.
I had never heard anything bythem until that day.
(05:18):
I went on um a streaming serviceand just listened to a few songs
just to get an idea and justdefinitely enjoyed it.
It was definitely worth seeingthe Lunatics.
SPEAKER_03 (05:28):
Did you download them to your phone, though?
SPEAKER_01 (05:30):
Uh one of them I did.
SPEAKER_03 (05:32):
One of them you did.
SPEAKER_01 (05:32):
Okay.
Made the cut.
One made the cut, yes.
That was followed up by JohnnyMaher, the guitarist formerly of
The Smiths, and he wasabsolutely fantastic.
I bet.
I could not believe how good hewas.
And he only had about 45minutes.
(05:54):
Again, it's a festival, youdon't get your full amount of
time you would do a show.
And it's still daylight whenhe's playing.
You know, I'm sure he's not usedto, you know, playing a lot in
the daylight because he playsclubs, and you know, it's
darker, it's nighttime.
But he did solo stuff, he didSmith songs.
And does he sing lead oneverything?
(06:14):
He sings lead on everything.
Everything.
And he sounds pretty good.
You know, he really does.
So it just was like a surpriseat how well he sang.
And I don't mean thatderogatory.
Like you never heard him singwith the Smiths, you know what
I'm saying?
Right.
Like it's not what you'reexpecting.
(06:35):
But he did Smith songs likePanic, This Charming Man,
Please, Please, Please Let MeGet What I Want.
And it was kind of cool when hedid that.
He changed it up, he made it alittle bit longer, because it's
a relatively short song, and hemade it longer, and it was cool
the way that he did it.
And I definitely enjoyed it.
(06:56):
The big crowd pleaser, ofcourse, was How Soon Is Now?
SPEAKER_00 (07:00):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (07:01):
He did the electronic song.
So Electronic, he was inElectronic.
Bernard Sumner of New Order wasin electronic, and as well as
Neil Tennant, I think, of thePet Shop Boys.
And it was funny because as he'ssinging it, you know, me and
Chris were kind of like, oh,this is Neil's part and this is
(07:21):
Bernard's part.
And, you know, we could hear itin our heads, even though they
weren't there.
And uh he did the song GettingAway with It, which is a pretty
good song from the early 90s.
Ended it with There is a LightThat Never Goes Out, and it was
just fantastic.
I mean, really, really would gosee him again in a heartbeat.
(07:42):
Like it was more than I couldhave ever thought it was going
to be.
SPEAKER_03 (07:46):
I saw somebody at Shaky Knees with one of the
shirts on from his tour.
It's a very interesting shirt.
You know the one I'm talkingabout?
SPEAKER_01 (07:54):
I do not.
SPEAKER_03 (07:55):
It has Johnny Blank Marr.
And if his parents gave him thatmiddle name, wow, they're pretty
racy.
SPEAKER_01 (08:02):
You know, actually, I did see a bunch of people with
those t-shirts now that you sayit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I did see people with that.
I guess it's something that youcan buy, you know, at the
souvenir stand or whatever.
So after Johnny Moore, wedecided, you know, we hadn't s
you know sat down.
We'd been standing the wholetime and we're like, hey, let's
(08:23):
see if we can get a minute, youknow.
Chris is like, let me sit down.
And there really wasn'tanywhere, you know, uh uh
everything was covered, thetables, the anything you could
sit on.
So we went to the side, like theleft side of the stage, just to
sit down.
There was like two securityguards there.
We weren't trying to storm thestage or anything.
We just kind of sit down.
(08:44):
And I I guess, like, you know,all of a sudden Chris is
standing up, and Chris sayssomething.
I look to my right, and there'sa guy on stage, and he's like
just looking at us.
So I take my drink and I just,you know, kind of put it over my
head to him, and he waves.
(09:05):
All right.
And then Chris starts waving,and the guy's walking closer,
and he kind of comes as close ashe can, which is not that far,
and blah, blah, blah, bum.
Captain sensible of the damned.
It was awesome.
It really was.
SPEAKER_03 (09:21):
And you said captain, and he said what?
SPEAKER_01 (09:24):
I gotta be honest with you, I almost didn't think
I almost did, but I didn't.
I couldn't get my phone out ofmy pocket to take a picture of
him until he had turned around,was walking backwards.
Totally took me by surprise.
Like, uh, you know, I like tothink that I'm ready.
You know, you get this feelingsomething's gonna At no time did
I think Captain Sensible in hisred and white striped shirt and
(09:47):
his beret was gonna be walkinglike towards us.
Now, don't get me wrong, hedidn't come right up to us.
You know, he was up on thestage.
He came as far on the stage ashe could possibly come.
And I think he was excited thathe could tell we knew who he
was, and lo and behold, wequickly got back into the crowd
because the damn performed, andyou would not believe that these
(10:10):
guys are in their 70s.
SPEAKER_03 (10:12):
Oh, they're so good live.
SPEAKER_01 (10:13):
They're just amazing.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (10:15):
They're all in really good shape, like you're
you're alluding to there, thatyou know, they they all have all
the energy they need, and DaveVanian's voice sounds amazing
still.
SPEAKER_01 (10:25):
I mean, it's just great.
I mean, you know, the drummerRat Scabies is just drumming
away, like they didn't slow downanything.
They're just still playing, andit's just fantastic.
It really is.
And, you know, obviously, neat,neat, neat, new rows, you know,
those are just classic punksongs from back in the day.
(10:46):
But their cover of JeffersonAirplanes White Rabbit was
absolutely insane.
It was so good.
And and Dave's voice along withthe the band playing, and to
think that this is some punkband, but they're playing it was
unbelievable.
SPEAKER_03 (11:03):
Yeah, well, they were punk and they were goth and
they were, you know, Brit pop,and they had a lot of different
stages.
And and that, you know, whiterabbit version is very much kind
of their goth sound.
It was great.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:17):
You know, Dave still dresses kind of like he's goth.
He looks like he's a vampirewhile he's up there.
He wore gloves the whole time.
Like he never took the glovesoff.
He took like his, you know, itlooked like almost like a suit,
not but then like an overcoat,but he like, you know, little by
little he would take some of thestuff off.
The gloves never came off.
SPEAKER_03 (11:34):
Gloves never came off.
SPEAKER_01 (11:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (11:36):
Um yeah, I think a lot of young kids like him, you
know, for that that stuff.
You know, a lot of goth kids andstuff are into the dam still.
SPEAKER_01 (11:45):
Aaron Ross Powell You know, it's amazing that they
have been around, I I think1976, if I'm correct, off the
top of my head, you know.
SPEAKER_03 (11:53):
That was when they put out, I think, the new Rose
single.
I think it came out in 76 orvery early 77.
SPEAKER_01 (11:59):
And and to see in 2025, they really kicked butt up
there.
There's no doubt about that.
None whatsoever.
And and you know, one thingabout White Rabbit, White Rabbit
is another one of those songsthat I think is very difficult
to cover.
We've talked about Sweet Chainbefore.
White Rabbit, you know, GraceSlick had the perfect voice to
(12:22):
do that song with JeffersonAirplane, and I've heard other
people do it, and it justdoesn't.
It sounds like it's me singingit.
And that's not really whatpeople want to hear.
But man, did they really do afantastic version of it?
Loved it.
So Jack White of the WhiteStripes fame, he follows up.
(12:43):
He did solo songs, he did rockand tours songs, he did white
stripes songs, and it was justfantastic that, you know, all
these years later, he can stillplay the guitar and he can still
sing with the voice that he'salways sang with.
Like he hasn't had to change.
Nothing, you know, has affectedhim at all.
(13:04):
And what he can do with theguitar, oh man, it is just
great.
It really is.
He's awesome.
Ball and biscuit, it's rough onrats, if you're asking.
That's off of, I believe, hislatest solo album.
Little Bird, Icky Thumps, SevenNation Army.
I mean, it's just so much funwatching.
(13:26):
And it is just, he's he got areal tight band, and they just
sounded fantastic.
Great.
And last but not least, IggyPop.
He was the headliner on thisstage.
SPEAKER_03 (13:39):
And it was all on one stage, huh?
SPEAKER_01 (13:40):
All on one stage, yeah.
And uh it started about 3 30,maybe, I think it was, the
Melvins came on.
And, you know, they had maybe 15minutes between the the first
few bands and then like a halfhour for the last few bands,
because they had a lot moreequipment and and so forth to
(14:02):
get going.
SPEAKER_03 (14:03):
But very punk rock to only have 15 minutes change
over time.
SPEAKER_01 (14:06):
Yeah, of course.
You know?
So Iggy pop, I think Iggy's 78years old.
And he's up there, and yeah,he's not the same guy.
It looks like he has like maybea hip issue or something.
SPEAKER_03 (14:18):
It's when you were motioning to your hip, I thought
you were gonna say he has likeone of those bags or maybe some
sort of a device that he hasconnected to him.
But okay.
SPEAKER_01 (14:27):
Not that I know of.
Okay.
But you can see as he's goingacross the stage, you know, it's
a a little bit difficult, but hemakes it seem like it's not
difficult.
Good.
Still no shirt, probably shouldput a shirt on at 78, you know.
But his hair is absolutelyfantastic.
All right.
Coming from the bald guy.
(14:48):
I just think his hair, I at onepoint I said to Chris, I think
he uses Panteen or something.
I mean, it looks it'll lookterrific.
I mean, that's one of the thingsthat I'm like, man, why can't I
be that guy?
SPEAKER_03 (15:01):
You know?
I don't know.
I mean, I've seen the billboardsfor hair implants.
I don't know if you consider it.
Be like probably a hundredthousand dollars.
SPEAKER_01 (15:10):
Yeah.
When you have no hair at all,it's a whole lot of money, isn't
it?
I've got 99 problems.
Being rich ain't one.
Yes.
So he did the passenger, which Ilove, and most people think of
the passenger by Susie and theBanshees.
He actually did the original,and his is just like a tad bit
slower, but it's it's reallycool.
(15:33):
I I really enjoy his version.
So I was excited to hear that.
Um, Lust for Life.
I mean, everybody knows Lust forLife.
Even if you don't know you knowLust for Life, you know Lust for
Life as soon as you hear it.
Uh, he did Stooges songs, youknow, he was uh Iggy in the
Stooges back in the day.
I Wanna Be Your Dog, Search andDestroy, you know, I mean, just
(15:55):
a ton of stuff.
And it was just really cool tosee him and my hats off to him
to be 78 and to be able to goout on a stage where there's
thousands of people and justrock your butt off.
I mean, that's living, you know?
That is.
That is really living.
SPEAKER_03 (16:13):
So the crowd, how did the size of the crowd
compare to other festivalsyou've been at?
SPEAKER_01 (16:19):
It was, you know, it was probably smaller, like
smaller than like a shaky kneesas far as the main stage.
There wasn't that a ton of roomthe way that shaky knees, some
of those main stages are.
That's what I I really think.
But it was kind of cool becauseyou could still move around.
(16:41):
You only had problems when youwere trying to get from like
stage to stage, or if you weretrying to go to the food court
area, you know, they had a bunchof trucks for food.
But uh it it was definitely fun.
It was uh a a good time.
You talked about last episode, Ithink you talked about that the
Sex Pistols were supposed toplay, and Steve Jones broke his
(17:02):
wrist, so they weren't able to.
But that really would have madethis thing, you know,
unbelievable.
SPEAKER_03 (17:08):
I wonder if they were gonna be on that same
stage.
SPEAKER_01 (17:11):
I believe they were definitely gonna be on the same
stage if I remember the waythings were lining up for that.
SPEAKER_03 (17:15):
So it sounds to me like the only one that I would
have liked to have seen thatwasn't on that stage was Marky
Ramon.
SPEAKER_01 (17:21):
Aaron Ross Powell That is correct.
He was not on the main stage.
He was on a different one, andit was just it was tough because
as soon as one band ended, thenext one started on another
stage.
Sometimes it would start a fewminutes earlier on another
stage, and you couldn't it wastough to try and get back and
(17:42):
forth, especially once you're inthe crowd to try and come back
and get a good spot in thecrowd, if that makes sense.
So but yeah, it was definitely agood time.
If they have another one, Iwould definitely consider going.
It was definitely on the priceyside.
There's no no doubt about that.
But it was a fun day.
SPEAKER_03 (18:02):
But it was just a one-day thing, so you didn't
have to buy a three-day ticketor something.
SPEAKER_01 (18:06):
Right.
And it you didn't have to uh youknow, uh for me and for most of
the people, you didn't have tobuy uh lodging or anything like
that.
You know, it was mostly localpeople.
I did get a kick out of it whilewe were watching Johnny Maher,
there were these two youngerguys kind of in front of us to
the left, and I saw one guy, hehad a Dio uh jacket on.
(18:32):
And I was like, you know, RonnieJames Dio, you know, he was in
Black Sabbath for a while.
Obviously, he was in Dio, youknow, did a bunch of stuff.
But, you know, not putting thattogether as what I would see as
far as people wearing, and thenI look, and next to him, his
buddies got the same Dio jacketon.
(18:53):
And you know, the Dio club.
They were the the Dio club.
And it was interesting, therewas a ton of punk rockers that
had the spiked hair.
There was like everything thatyou could think that you would
see at a CBGB festival, you did.
Not only did you see that, butthey had the original bar from
(19:13):
there so that you could seethat.
They had toilets from theoriginal bathroom and one of the
walls, and they had the Yeah,the bathroom there was kind of
legendary.
SPEAKER_03 (19:24):
It had so much graffiti on it.
It was crazy.
Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (19:27):
Yeah, they took out so much and it was cool because
you got to see that, you know,like it just had a piece of
history that you could, youknow, do.
What was funny is the bathroomis when you went to the porta
potties after you wash yourhands, then you would see the
bathroom scene from CBGB's.
SPEAKER_03 (19:44):
Oh, yeah.
You know, the bathrooms, I haveto say, I went to sh uh shaky
knees, as we talked about lastepisode on the Sunday, which
usually the third day of athree-day festival, you go in
the porta-potties and it's notgood.
And I'm like, what in the world?
This is like the cleanest portapotty I've ever been in.
I don't know if they cleanedthem throughout, but hats off to
(20:05):
the shaky knees staff forkeeping the bathrooms clean.
Just a little PSA.
SPEAKER_01 (20:11):
I I like it, Jimmy.
I like it.
So that was on the 27th ofSeptember.
On the 30th of September, herein Atlanta, Georgia, I went to
see the minus five opening upfor the baseball project at
Terminal West.
(20:33):
I've never been to Terminal Westbefore.
It was my first time there.
Liked it a small place.
You could, you know, I wasliterally up at the stage, and
my drink I was putting on thestage.
Like I was right there at thefront.
And it was a cool show.
So you had the minus five thatwere opening, which I was more
(20:55):
familiar with the minus five,than the baseball project.
SPEAKER_03 (20:59):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (20:59):
The minus five is made up of Scott McCoy on
guitar.
He's kind of set the band up.
He's like the leader of theband, so he's on vocals also.
Steve Wynne, who was in theDream Syndicate, right?
And he did vocals and guitar.
And he was lead guitar for theminus five.
(21:23):
Peter Buck of R.E.M.
played bass.
Oh, bass.
Mike Mills of REM keyboards andLinda Pittman on drums.
Linda is Steve's wife.
And they were such a tight band.
It was so good.
They sounded fantastic.
I loved it.
(21:44):
And like I said, I was morefamiliar with them.
I knew some of the songs.
So it was great.
Had a great time and everythingwas great.
And then they finish, and thebaseball project is gonna come
out.
Well, for those of you thatdon't know, the baseball project
(22:05):
is the same people.
SPEAKER_03 (22:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (22:07):
So you got Scott on vocals and guitar, Steve on
vocals and guitar, Peter playsguitar, Mike is on bass.
As it normally is, and Lindaplays drums.
And you know, Peter played, youknow, you could hear REM
sounding chords, you know,different things that that Peter
(22:29):
was doing at times.
It was it was fantastic.
So the minus five has it's beenaround for a long time, and it
kind of has rotating members.
Peter Buck has always kind ofbeen one of the members, but
it's you know, differentprojects, different things go
on, they just kind of havedifferent people that will join
(22:50):
the group.
Uh the Go-Go's drummer, what'sher name?
Gina something.
She was part of the minus fiveat one time.
Oh.
And it it's just kind of cool.
Scott is really the main personthat's always part of it.
And they just keep going on.
(23:10):
And it was a great tour, greatum album, you know, that they
were torn for.
And then, you know, as thebaseball project, they are doing
songs that are related tobaseball.
Like they've written these indierock, you know, songs about
baseball.
So for the minus five, they didthe song Cassie Lee, Blowin' My
(23:32):
Bag, Words and Birds.
Really like that.
I actually had not heard CassieLee before.
It was my first time.
They opened up with it.
Really enjoyed it.
But then the baseball projectdid 1976, They Don't Know Henry,
which is about Hank Aaron, DiscoDemolition, which is something
we talked about on the podcastin Chicago in 1979 when they had
(23:54):
Disco Demolition Night.
From Nails to Thumbtacks, andthey sing a little bit about
Nails, who was uh Lenny Dijkstrafor the New York Mets, and to
the Veterans Committee, which isa song that Mike Mills sang
about Dale Murphy, that hebelongs in the Hall of Fame.
SPEAKER_03 (24:15):
So Greg Wheat was there last night.
I'm surprised you didn't runinto him.
SPEAKER_01 (24:18):
I did run into it.
Oh, you did run into him.
Great.
SPEAKER_03 (24:21):
So Greg Wheat, we know him from episode seven.
Uh I met his wife.
The cover of London Calling.
SPEAKER_01 (24:26):
Lovely person.
SPEAKER_03 (24:27):
And yeah, Tina is great.
And the Greg took a little videoof the Dale Murphy song.
You know, it says, uh, I want tosee Dale Murphy in the Hall of
Fame, something like that.
And he put it on Instagram andhe tagged Dale Murphy because he
follows Dale Murphy.
Now, Dale Murphy, for those thatdon't know, uh was the greatest
(24:48):
1980s Bra.
You know, he was when the Bravesabsolutely were always in last
place.
Dale Murphy was the one shiningstar that was like hitting home
runs and playing really well.
And uh they got rid of, theytraded Dale Murphy right before
the Braves got good.
And, you know, the 91 worst offirst season and everything was
(25:11):
just after they had traded DaleMurphy.
So he never really got to be onthe Braves when they were
winning.
But he, you know, a lot ofpeople want to see him in the
Hall of Fame.
So Greg puts it on there, hetags Dale Murphy.
Dale Murphy reposts Greg'sstory, says, thanks everybody.
And so it was really cool.
SPEAKER_01 (25:30):
That is very cool.
Uh Mike Mills talked before thesong, after the song, you know,
about, you know, writing to theVeterans Committee about how
important it was.
And he said something, don'tquote me, but it was like number
three on his back, but numberone in our hearts.
Something like that.
I don't remember exactly what hesaid because Dale Murphy was
number three.
When I moved here in 1990, Iactually got to see Dale Murphy
(25:54):
as I was going to a lot ofbaseball games back then,
especially when the New YorkMets came to town.
And, you know, he's definitelysomeone I'm glad that I got to
see play because he is someonethat is a a great baseball
player.
SPEAKER_03 (26:07):
For sure.
SPEAKER_01 (26:08):
So before the show starts, I can't believe I didn't
mention this.
They have a little merchandisething.
And I'm looking, they have someshirts, and they have some, you
know, a poster.
And I'm like, you know what?
I don't know, maybe I'll buy it,maybe I won't.
And the guy says they're gonnasign stuff after the show.
(26:31):
They're gonna set up a tableright here, and if you buy the
poster, they'll sign it.
So I said, you know, I'm gonnatake my chance, I'm gonna buy
the poster after the show.
And I'm starting to walk away,and all of a sudden something
catches my eye, and I look downand it's a drum skin, and on the
(26:51):
drum skin, it says TerminalWest, Atlanta, last show of the
tour, doubleheader, the minusfive, the baseball project.
It's signed by all the bandmembers, and I'm looking, and
the guy goes, We only do one pershow.
(27:12):
I said, sold.
And I actually said, I reallywanted the poster.
He gave me the poster next tonothing.
It was just kind of awesome.
It's so cool looking.
It really is super cool looking.
So there was no re-entry, youknow, you couldn't go out, but
they saw that I bought that, andthey were like, Oh, you want to
(27:33):
put it in your car?
And they were like, just goright out, go right ahead, don't
worry about it, and come back.
So after the show, like I said,they're signing, and you know,
go up.
And I said, Hey, I bought thedrum skin, because I didn't want
them to think that I'm up thereand I'm not supporting them.
I said, I bought the drum skinand a poster and they're in my
(27:56):
car.
Can you just sign my music andmy shoes shirt?
So Mike Mills has, you know, andit just goes on from person to
person.
And Peter Buck is looking and hesays, You lost your beard.
And I said, I had some skincancer, so I needed to shave.
(28:17):
And he's like, I apologize forbringing something like that up.
I said, No, no, you didn't know.
It's no big deal.
Everything was fine, got ittaken out, stitched up.
And the next thing, he's lookingat my face at what great work
the plastic surgeon did and justenjoying.
He's like, wow, that's reallygood.
And the next thing you know,Steve Wynne, who I told you was
(28:40):
vocals and and lead guitar, he'slooking, and they're both like,
yeah, man, look how good thatlooks.
And it was just it was justfunny to be there.
And I'm not making light of it.
Um, you know, again, I had thethe the least of any type of
skin cancer as far as you knowwhat can be bad for you.
It still needed to be removed.
(29:02):
And people have asked me becauseof the fact that, you know, the
music in my shoes logo has thebeard, and all of a sudden I
have no beard, and even PeterBuck is asking what's going on.
I ran into Kevin Kinney ofdriving and crying and his wife
Anna, and Kevin almost didn'teven realize he looked at my
shirt before he's like, nope,knew it was me, because he's
(29:23):
never seen me without a beard.
SPEAKER_03 (29:25):
Most people haven't.
SPEAKER_01 (29:26):
And he was just smiling, like, man, you wow, you
you you look good, and you know,it was it was fun.
You know, it was a it was a funnight.
Definitely had a fun night.
Started, you know, back on thethe 27th with Captain Sensible,
and then it just carried on overto the 30th, seeing all these
other people.
And it it was a great time anduh definitely a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_03 (29:50):
Nice little run there.
SPEAKER_01 (29:57):
Let's revisit some more music in my shoes.
The Beatles yesterday peaked atnumber one on Billboard Hot 100
October 9th, 1965.
I believe that's 60 years ago.
Hard to believe the song's thatold.
It's just Paul McCartney'svocals and guitar, no other
Beatle on it.
(30:17):
It was the first time that anyof them had done a song with not
the rest of them.
While it's credited to PaulMcCartney and John Lennon, you
know, Lennon and McCartney, itreally is just a Paul McCartney
solo thing.
No input from Lennon at all.
And just so people understand,their agreement was always
Lennon and McCartney, regardlessof who did what, that was how
(30:41):
they set it up.
And you know, if you take alook, it still says that.
Except if you get Paul McCartneylive albums, he will put
McCartney Lennon as the creditson.
Oh, really?
Yeah, he will do that.
So most lists have Yesterday asthe most covered song of all
time.
And I went through, I looked upa ton of lists by all different,
(31:04):
you know, uh magazines and justdifferent things.
And almost everybody hasYesterday as the most covered
song.
And it's like over 2,000different versions of the song.
SPEAKER_03 (31:15):
Wow, I would never have guessed that.
I don't know that I've heardthat many covers of it.
SPEAKER_01 (31:19):
Really?
SPEAKER_03 (31:20):
Yeah.
Who who can you think of that'slike a big cover of it?
SPEAKER_01 (31:24):
William Shatner.
All right.
So the original title.
SPEAKER_03 (31:28):
I've got a great story about William Shatner.
Do you really?
Yeah.
So I just found this outyesterday.
Whoa! Yeah.
It all ties in yesterday.
You know, Michael Myers.
SPEAKER_01 (31:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (31:41):
Not Mike Myers from Austin Powers, but the
Halloween.
Halloween, Michael Myers.
He had that mask.
Right.
Right?
It was like a white mask withkind of hair sticking up.
That was a William Shatner asCaptain Kirk mask that you could
buy at the store.
They bought it at the store,they spray painted it white, and
(32:02):
they stuck the hair up.
SPEAKER_01 (32:03):
No, they did not.
SPEAKER_03 (32:04):
And you can look it up, and there's side-by-side
pictures on the internet of theoriginal mask and the Michael
Myers mask, and they lookexactly the same.
SPEAKER_01 (32:11):
That is great.
I've never heard that.
That is funny.
And that fact that you found itout yesterday when we're talking
about the song yesterday.
SPEAKER_03 (32:19):
No, it is it's very apropos.
SPEAKER_01 (32:22):
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (32:22):
And and it's uh October now, so it's got a
Halloween tie-in.
SPEAKER_01 (32:26):
Spooky season is here among us.
So the original title of thesong yesterday was Scrambled
Eggs.
Yeah.
And it's hard to believe.
Scrambled eggs, oh my baby, howI love your legs, not as much as
I love scrambled eggs.
So back in December 2010, Pauland Jimmy Fallon performed a
(32:48):
version of Scrambled Eggs onLate Night with Jimmy Fallon.
That was uh obviously 15 yearsago, a long time ago, but I
remember watching and they did agood version of it.
SPEAKER_03 (32:59):
I I wonder if people have covered that.
SPEAKER_01 (33:01):
The scrambled eggs song?
Yeah.
Hey, I just did.
I just did spoken word scrambledeggs.
Whoa.
Speaking of scrambled eggs,tick, tick, tick.
It's Minute with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_02 (33:13):
It's time for a minute with Jimmy, Minute with
Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for a minute withJimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute
with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_03 (33:22):
All right, in uh 1980, Elvis Costello put out his
album, Get Happy.
And it's uh it's a pretty goodrecord.
You know, it has a bunch of uhhits on it, you know, I think
among Elvis Costello fans.
It's got I Can't Stand Up forFalling Down, High Fidelity, uh
New Amsterdam, good song, and uhand clown time is over.
(33:46):
So a couple of those made itonto Elvis Costello's greatest
hits.
But uh yeah, 45 years ago, heput out what I think.
Do you like this record?
SPEAKER_01 (33:55):
I do like it.
SPEAKER_03 (33:56):
Yeah.
So um, you know, it's probablynot my favorite Elvis Costello
album, but he he was reallysolid at always putting out
records year after year that hada few songs that you were really
gonna like on it.
So when another one of thoseartists that back in the day of
the BMG Music Club, I boughtevery single Elvis Costello
(34:19):
album.
I was at eight for a penny orwhatever it was, 13 for a penny,
or I think you ended up gettinguh eight CDs for the price of a
half a CD, but then you had topay shipping and some things,
but yeah, it was a pretty gooddeal.
SPEAKER_01 (34:32):
So there was this guy at school, and I think his
name was Warren.
I'm not a hundred percent.
He didn't run around the samecrowd that I did.
I think his name was Warren, andhe would have all these
different Elvis Costello shirts,and you know, would have the
album covers on, and he reallywas one of the people where I
was like, he's got all theseshirts, I need to check this guy
(34:53):
out, you know, because he'salways wearing it.
He really likes him, you know.
I he you'd hear him, you know,humming or you know, singing low
the songs.
And whenever I think of earlyElvis Costello, I always think
of back in the early days and ofthis guy.
I think like I said, I think hisname is Warren.
SPEAKER_03 (35:11):
All right, Warren.
Hello from Music in My Shoes toWarren.
SPEAKER_01 (35:15):
Yeah, I don't know what happened to him, but uh
hopefully he's listening today.
SPEAKER_03 (35:18):
I hope he still has one of those shirts.
SPEAKER_01 (35:20):
He's probably bigger now.
We all are.
SPEAKER_03 (35:23):
Hey, don't wish that on Warren.
I got Warren's back here.
SPEAKER_01 (35:27):
My name is Jim G.
I can't stand up for fallingdown, but what I can do is talk
about the clash.
This is England, WLIR Screamerof the Week, first week of
October 1985.
Last single by the Clash, noMick Jones at this point, three
(35:48):
new people in the group.
It was a shell of the band, youknow, that we really knew was
the clash.
The album that it was on thatcame out not not long after the
single was Cut the Crap.
But it's still good to hear JoeStrummer's voice.
Like, I can still listen to thissong.
I cannot listen to the rest ofthe album.
It is just beyond what I like.
SPEAKER_03 (36:10):
Have we talked about what happened with that album?
It they didn't finish it, andthen Bernie Rhodes, who was the
manager, went into the studioand he added all these like
synthesizers and whatever wasneeded to put it together, drum
machines and things to add toJoe's vocal tracks to to get it
(36:31):
out and make some money on it,and it was a it was a pretty bad
album, but the songs were good.
SPEAKER_01 (36:36):
Yeah, I really like this song.
You know, it was definitely whenit came out at first I was like,
what the heck is this?
But it's kind of stayed with me.
I do enjoy listening to this.
SPEAKER_03 (36:45):
I like a few songs on that album, and uh, and
that's one of them.
Yeah, and Dirty Punk, I wouldthat was the one song that I
thought had decent enoughproduction that I would actually
put it on mixtapes and stuffback then.
SPEAKER_01 (36:57):
Gotcha.
Yeah.
So Red Hot Chili Peppers, MyFriends, the single was released
October 9th, 1995.
It was on Billboard's mainstreamrock airplay from early October
until it peaked at number one onDecember 9th, 1995.
It seemed like my friends was onthe radio, especially rock
(37:18):
radio, uh 96 Rock, like it wasbeing played all of the time.
I really like it.
You know, it was off of thealbum One Hot Minute, very
different for them because JohnFreshante had left the band in
1992 and then Dave Navarrojoined.
He didn't want to, but they kindof talked him into it, and he's
(37:40):
a whole different type ofguitarist, a whole different
vibe.
And for those of you that don'tknow, Dave Navarro was in Jane's
addiction, and that's why I'mtalking about, you know, it was
a different vibe, a wholedifferent thing than what the
red hot chili peppers weredoing.
But if you get a chance, or ifyou haven't listened to it in a
long time, it's definitely agood song.
I listened the heck out of thatsong 30 years ago.
(38:02):
You can reach us atmusicinmyshoes at gmail.com.
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That's it for episode 99 ofMusic in My Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie,show producer and owner of
Arcade 160 Studios, located herein Atlanta, Georgia, and Vic
Thrill for our podcast music.
(38:23):
This is Jim Boj, and I hope youlearned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're
listening to Music in My Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 99.
I've got 99 Problems, being richain't one.
As always, I'm all right.
Starting it off with a gag.
(00:55):
I like it.
Welcome to episode 99.
I was going to do something withGet Smart, Agent 99.
SPEAKER_03 (01:02):
99, yeah.
What else we got?
99 bottles of beer on the wall?
SPEAKER_01 (01:05):
99 Luft.
SPEAKER_03 (01:06):
We're literally going to sing the whole song,
yeah.
Both of those songs.
SPEAKER_01 (01:09):
That might help us get through this episode.
SPEAKER_03 (01:12):
Well, unfortunately, the podcast gods don't let us
sing songs.
So Jim's gonna do a spoken wordversion of 99 bottles of beer on
the wall.
SPEAKER_01 (01:21):
Nobody wants to hear that.
I know that.
But anyway, listen, in allhonesty, I've got 99 problems,
and being rich ain't one ofthem.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
So I went to the CBGB festival.
(01:42):
Yeah.
It was on September 27, 2025, inBrooklyn, New York.
And it was under the K Bridge.
It's a park, and it's kind ofcool how they set it up.
You literally have a bridge ofroad over your head.
Like I wore a hat because Ithought the sun would get on me.
There's no sun.
(02:03):
The bridge just covers upeverything.
It's no sun.
SPEAKER_03 (02:07):
I mean, they it was as advertised.
It was called Under the K BridgePark.
SPEAKER_01 (02:11):
Yeah, it was fantastic.
It really was.
Get there, you know, it's kindof a little bit of a walk from
where the subway goes.
I mean, it wasn't meant totravel there from the subway.
But I get there and, you know,they're IDing you, and he's
looking, you know, I have aGeorgia license, I'm in
Brooklyn, and he's looking, andhe's looking at me.
(02:32):
And my license looks just likeme, because it actually is so
old, I didn't have a beard on.
And he's looking and everything,and finally I say, You can't
possibly think I'm under 21.
That's like he spent so muchtime.
He goes, You would be surprised.
Earlier, we had two kids tryingto sneak in, one on top of the
(02:53):
shoulders, and they wore a bigtrench coat trying to sneak in.
That there's no way.
Yes.
That's what he told me.
And I was like, this is crazy.
He's pulling your leg.
No, he was pretty serious aboutit.
He really was pretty seriousabout it.
SPEAKER_03 (03:09):
Was it the little rascals?
SPEAKER_01 (03:10):
Uh you know, I don't know.
It could have been because thereare a lot of young folks, a lot
of medium folks, and a lot ofolder folks, you know, at this
festival.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_03 (03:21):
They actually gave better pricing to uh young
people for this.
Did you see that?
SPEAKER_01 (03:26):
I did see that.
I saw that they had um the youngpunks or something it was.
SPEAKER_03 (03:31):
Young punks.
SPEAKER_01 (03:31):
Yeah, and I think that's pretty cool to do that
because obviously, you know, youdon't have as much money when
you're younger and to be able tospend it, but I th I thought
that was a pretty cool thingthat they that they did.
Yeah.
So there was like 20 bands orso.
I stayed at one stage with myfriend Chris Cassidy, friend of
the show Chris Cassidy, and kindof just watched everything that
(03:54):
was on that stage instead oftrying it was difficult to kind
of move between the the stagesjust because there were just so
many people.
And I was at the main stage,starts off with Melvin's, the
Melvins, you know, uh it the guywith the big hair, you know,
that's the first thing anyonewho knows anything about the
(04:15):
Melvins that you think about.
But it was um, you know, it wasgood to see them.
I had never seen them before.
And, you know, they'redefinitely, you know, one of
those bands that were, you know,important.
They didn't make it as big as alot of the other bands.
SPEAKER_03 (04:31):
Yeah, they were influential.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_01 (04:32):
Yeah, they real influential, you know, and you
know, I just was like, Idefinitely want to kind of see
them, and it was great.
Great job.
Really uh enjoyed it.
Lunatics came out, a New York uhcity female punk band, and they
hadn't played together in threeyears.
They actually broke up.
Don't hold me to this, but Iwant to say like the very early,
(04:56):
early 90s, and then they've donesome reunion shows here and
there.
You would have thought thatthey've been playing nonstop.
That's how well it sounded asthey played.
You know, they didn't have anymess ups.
It was like, there's no way theyhaven't played in three years.
Sounded good, really good.
I had never heard anything bythem until that day.
(05:18):
I went on um a streaming serviceand just listened to a few songs
just to get an idea and justdefinitely enjoyed it.
It was definitely worth seeingthe Lunatics.
SPEAKER_03 (05:28):
Did you download them to your phone, though?
SPEAKER_01 (05:30):
Uh one of them I did.
SPEAKER_03 (05:32):
One of them you did.
SPEAKER_01 (05:32):
Okay.
Made the cut.
One made the cut, yes.
That was followed up by JohnnyMaher, the guitarist formerly of
The Smiths, and he wasabsolutely fantastic.
I bet.
I could not believe how good hewas.
And he only had about 45minutes.
(05:54):
Again, it's a festival, youdon't get your full amount of
time you would do a show.
And it's still daylight whenhe's playing.
You know, I'm sure he's not usedto, you know, playing a lot in
the daylight because he playsclubs, and you know, it's
darker, it's nighttime.
But he did solo stuff, he didSmith songs.
And does he sing lead oneverything?
(06:14):
He sings lead on everything.
Everything.
And he sounds pretty good.
You know, he really does.
So it just was like a surpriseat how well he sang.
And I don't mean thatderogatory.
Like you never heard him singwith the Smiths, you know what
I'm saying?
Right.
Like it's not what you'reexpecting.
(06:35):
But he did Smith songs likePanic, This Charming Man,
Please, Please, Please Let MeGet What I Want.
And it was kind of cool when hedid that.
He changed it up, he made it alittle bit longer, because it's
a relatively short song, and hemade it longer, and it was cool
the way that he did it.
And I definitely enjoyed it.
(06:56):
The big crowd pleaser, ofcourse, was How Soon Is Now?
SPEAKER_00 (07:00):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (07:01):
He did the electronic song.
So Electronic, he was inElectronic.
Bernard Sumner of New Order wasin electronic, and as well as
Neil Tennant, I think, of thePet Shop Boys.
And it was funny because as he'ssinging it, you know, me and
Chris were kind of like, oh,this is Neil's part and this is
(07:21):
Bernard's part.
And, you know, we could hear itin our heads, even though they
weren't there.
And uh he did the song GettingAway with It, which is a pretty
good song from the early 90s.
Ended it with There is a LightThat Never Goes Out, and it was
just fantastic.
I mean, really, really would gosee him again in a heartbeat.
(07:42):
Like it was more than I couldhave ever thought it was going
to be.
SPEAKER_03 (07:46):
I saw somebody at Shaky Knees with one of the
shirts on from his tour.
It's a very interesting shirt.
You know the one I'm talkingabout?
SPEAKER_01 (07:54):
I do not.
SPEAKER_03 (07:55):
It has Johnny Blank Marr.
And if his parents gave him thatmiddle name, wow, they're pretty
racy.
SPEAKER_01 (08:02):
You know, actually, I did see a bunch of people with
those t-shirts now that you sayit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I did see people with that.
I guess it's something that youcan buy, you know, at the
souvenir stand or whatever.
So after Johnny Moore, wedecided, you know, we hadn't s
you know sat down.
We'd been standing the wholetime and we're like, hey, let's
(08:23):
see if we can get a minute, youknow.
Chris is like, let me sit down.
And there really wasn'tanywhere, you know, uh uh
everything was covered, thetables, the anything you could
sit on.
So we went to the side, like theleft side of the stage, just to
sit down.
There was like two securityguards there.
We weren't trying to storm thestage or anything.
We just kind of sit down.
(08:44):
And I I guess, like, you know,all of a sudden Chris is
standing up, and Chris sayssomething.
I look to my right, and there'sa guy on stage, and he's like
just looking at us.
So I take my drink and I just,you know, kind of put it over my
head to him, and he waves.
(09:05):
All right.
And then Chris starts waving,and the guy's walking closer,
and he kind of comes as close ashe can, which is not that far,
and blah, blah, blah, bum.
Captain sensible of the damned.
It was awesome.
It really was.
SPEAKER_03 (09:21):
And you said captain, and he said what?
SPEAKER_01 (09:24):
I gotta be honest with you, I almost didn't think
I almost did, but I didn't.
I couldn't get my phone out ofmy pocket to take a picture of
him until he had turned around,was walking backwards.
Totally took me by surprise.
Like, uh, you know, I like tothink that I'm ready.
You know, you get this feelingsomething's gonna At no time did
I think Captain Sensible in hisred and white striped shirt and
(09:47):
his beret was gonna be walkinglike towards us.
Now, don't get me wrong, hedidn't come right up to us.
You know, he was up on thestage.
He came as far on the stage ashe could possibly come.
And I think he was excited thathe could tell we knew who he
was, and lo and behold, wequickly got back into the crowd
because the damn performed, andyou would not believe that these
(10:10):
guys are in their 70s.
SPEAKER_03 (10:12):
Oh, they're so good live.
SPEAKER_01 (10:13):
They're just amazing.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (10:15):
They're all in really good shape, like you're
you're alluding to there, thatyou know, they they all have all
the energy they need, and DaveVanian's voice sounds amazing
still.
SPEAKER_01 (10:25):
I mean, it's just great.
I mean, you know, the drummerRat Scabies is just drumming
away, like they didn't slow downanything.
They're just still playing, andit's just fantastic.
It really is.
And, you know, obviously, neat,neat, neat, new rows, you know,
those are just classic punksongs from back in the day.
(10:46):
But their cover of JeffersonAirplanes White Rabbit was
absolutely insane.
It was so good.
And and Dave's voice along withthe the band playing, and to
think that this is some punkband, but they're playing it was
unbelievable.
SPEAKER_03 (11:03):
Yeah, well, they were punk and they were goth and
they were, you know, Brit pop,and they had a lot of different
stages.
And and that, you know, whiterabbit version is very much kind
of their goth sound.
It was great.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:17):
You know, Dave still dresses kind of like he's goth.
He looks like he's a vampirewhile he's up there.
He wore gloves the whole time.
Like he never took the glovesoff.
He took like his, you know, itlooked like almost like a suit,
not but then like an overcoat,but he like, you know, little by
little he would take some of thestuff off.
The gloves never came off.
SPEAKER_03 (11:34):
Gloves never came off.
SPEAKER_01 (11:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (11:36):
Um yeah, I think a lot of young kids like him, you
know, for that that stuff.
You know, a lot of goth kids andstuff are into the dam still.
SPEAKER_01 (11:45):
Aaron Ross Powell You know, it's amazing that they
have been around, I I think1976, if I'm correct, off the
top of my head, you know.
SPEAKER_03 (11:53):
That was when they put out, I think, the new Rose
single.
I think it came out in 76 orvery early 77.
SPEAKER_01 (11:59):
And and to see in 2025, they really kicked butt up
there.
There's no doubt about that.
None whatsoever.
And and you know, one thingabout White Rabbit, White Rabbit
is another one of those songsthat I think is very difficult
to cover.
We've talked about Sweet Chainbefore.
White Rabbit, you know, GraceSlick had the perfect voice to
(12:22):
do that song with JeffersonAirplane, and I've heard other
people do it, and it justdoesn't.
It sounds like it's me singingit.
And that's not really whatpeople want to hear.
But man, did they really do afantastic version of it?
Loved it.
So Jack White of the WhiteStripes fame, he follows up.
(12:43):
He did solo songs, he did rockand tours songs, he did white
stripes songs, and it was justfantastic that, you know, all
these years later, he can stillplay the guitar and he can still
sing with the voice that he'salways sang with.
Like he hasn't had to change.
Nothing, you know, has affectedhim at all.
(13:04):
And what he can do with theguitar, oh man, it is just
great.
It really is.
He's awesome.
Ball and biscuit, it's rough onrats, if you're asking.
That's off of, I believe, hislatest solo album.
Little Bird, Icky Thumps, SevenNation Army.
I mean, it's just so much funwatching.
(13:26):
And it is just, he's he got areal tight band, and they just
sounded fantastic.
Great.
And last but not least, IggyPop.
He was the headliner on thisstage.
SPEAKER_03 (13:39):
And it was all on one stage, huh?
SPEAKER_01 (13:40):
All on one stage, yeah.
And uh it started about 3 30,maybe, I think it was, the
Melvins came on.
And, you know, they had maybe 15minutes between the the first
few bands and then like a halfhour for the last few bands,
because they had a lot moreequipment and and so forth to
(14:02):
get going.
SPEAKER_03 (14:03):
But very punk rock to only have 15 minutes change
over time.
SPEAKER_01 (14:06):
Yeah, of course.
You know?
So Iggy pop, I think Iggy's 78years old.
And he's up there, and yeah,he's not the same guy.
It looks like he has like maybea hip issue or something.
SPEAKER_03 (14:18):
It's when you were motioning to your hip, I thought
you were gonna say he has likeone of those bags or maybe some
sort of a device that he hasconnected to him.
But okay.
SPEAKER_01 (14:27):
Not that I know of.
Okay.
But you can see as he's goingacross the stage, you know, it's
a a little bit difficult, but hemakes it seem like it's not
difficult.
Good.
Still no shirt, probably shouldput a shirt on at 78, you know.
But his hair is absolutelyfantastic.
All right.
Coming from the bald guy.
(14:48):
I just think his hair, I at onepoint I said to Chris, I think
he uses Panteen or something.
I mean, it looks it'll lookterrific.
I mean, that's one of the thingsthat I'm like, man, why can't I
be that guy?
SPEAKER_03 (15:01):
You know?
I don't know.
I mean, I've seen the billboardsfor hair implants.
I don't know if you consider it.
Be like probably a hundredthousand dollars.
SPEAKER_01 (15:10):
Yeah.
When you have no hair at all,it's a whole lot of money, isn't
it?
I've got 99 problems.
Being rich ain't one.
Yes.
So he did the passenger, which Ilove, and most people think of
the passenger by Susie and theBanshees.
He actually did the original,and his is just like a tad bit
slower, but it's it's reallycool.
(15:33):
I I really enjoy his version.
So I was excited to hear that.
Um, Lust for Life.
I mean, everybody knows Lust forLife.
Even if you don't know you knowLust for Life, you know Lust for
Life as soon as you hear it.
Uh, he did Stooges songs, youknow, he was uh Iggy in the
Stooges back in the day.
I Wanna Be Your Dog, Search andDestroy, you know, I mean, just
(15:55):
a ton of stuff.
And it was just really cool tosee him and my hats off to him
to be 78 and to be able to goout on a stage where there's
thousands of people and justrock your butt off.
I mean, that's living, you know?
That is.
That is really living.
SPEAKER_03 (16:13):
So the crowd, how did the size of the crowd
compare to other festivalsyou've been at?
SPEAKER_01 (16:19):
It was, you know, it was probably smaller, like
smaller than like a shaky kneesas far as the main stage.
There wasn't that a ton of roomthe way that shaky knees, some
of those main stages are.
That's what I I really think.
But it was kind of cool becauseyou could still move around.
(16:41):
You only had problems when youwere trying to get from like
stage to stage, or if you weretrying to go to the food court
area, you know, they had a bunchof trucks for food.
But uh it it was definitely fun.
It was uh a a good time.
You talked about last episode, Ithink you talked about that the
Sex Pistols were supposed toplay, and Steve Jones broke his
(17:02):
wrist, so they weren't able to.
But that really would have madethis thing, you know,
unbelievable.
SPEAKER_03 (17:08):
I wonder if they were gonna be on that same
stage.
SPEAKER_01 (17:11):
I believe they were definitely gonna be on the same
stage if I remember the waythings were lining up for that.
SPEAKER_03 (17:15):
So it sounds to me like the only one that I would
have liked to have seen thatwasn't on that stage was Marky
Ramon.
SPEAKER_01 (17:21):
Aaron Ross Powell That is correct.
He was not on the main stage.
He was on a different one, andit was just it was tough because
as soon as one band ended, thenext one started on another
stage.
Sometimes it would start a fewminutes earlier on another
stage, and you couldn't it wastough to try and get back and
(17:42):
forth, especially once you're inthe crowd to try and come back
and get a good spot in thecrowd, if that makes sense.
So but yeah, it was definitely agood time.
If they have another one, Iwould definitely consider going.
It was definitely on the priceyside.
There's no no doubt about that.
But it was a fun day.
SPEAKER_03 (18:02):
But it was just a one-day thing, so you didn't
have to buy a three-day ticketor something.
SPEAKER_01 (18:06):
Right.
And it you didn't have to uh youknow, uh for me and for most of
the people, you didn't have tobuy uh lodging or anything like
that.
You know, it was mostly localpeople.
I did get a kick out of it whilewe were watching Johnny Maher,
there were these two youngerguys kind of in front of us to
the left, and I saw one guy, hehad a Dio uh jacket on.
(18:32):
And I was like, you know, RonnieJames Dio, you know, he was in
Black Sabbath for a while.
Obviously, he was in Dio, youknow, did a bunch of stuff.
But, you know, not putting thattogether as what I would see as
far as people wearing, and thenI look, and next to him, his
buddies got the same Dio jacketon.
(18:53):
And you know, the Dio club.
They were the the Dio club.
And it was interesting, therewas a ton of punk rockers that
had the spiked hair.
There was like everything thatyou could think that you would
see at a CBGB festival, you did.
Not only did you see that, butthey had the original bar from
(19:13):
there so that you could seethat.
They had toilets from theoriginal bathroom and one of the
walls, and they had the Yeah,the bathroom there was kind of
legendary.
SPEAKER_03 (19:24):
It had so much graffiti on it.
It was crazy.
Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (19:27):
Yeah, they took out so much and it was cool because
you got to see that, you know,like it just had a piece of
history that you could, youknow, do.
What was funny is the bathroomis when you went to the porta
potties after you wash yourhands, then you would see the
bathroom scene from CBGB's.
SPEAKER_03 (19:44):
Oh, yeah.
You know, the bathrooms, I haveto say, I went to sh uh shaky
knees, as we talked about lastepisode on the Sunday, which
usually the third day of athree-day festival, you go in
the porta-potties and it's notgood.
And I'm like, what in the world?
This is like the cleanest portapotty I've ever been in.
I don't know if they cleanedthem throughout, but hats off to
(20:05):
the shaky knees staff forkeeping the bathrooms clean.
Just a little PSA.
SPEAKER_01 (20:11):
I I like it, Jimmy.
I like it.
So that was on the 27th ofSeptember.
On the 30th of September, herein Atlanta, Georgia, I went to
see the minus five opening upfor the baseball project at
Terminal West.
(20:33):
I've never been to Terminal Westbefore.
It was my first time there.
Liked it a small place.
You could, you know, I wasliterally up at the stage, and
my drink I was putting on thestage.
Like I was right there at thefront.
And it was a cool show.
So you had the minus five thatwere opening, which I was more
(20:55):
familiar with the minus five,than the baseball project.
SPEAKER_03 (20:59):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (20:59):
The minus five is made up of Scott McCoy on
guitar.
He's kind of set the band up.
He's like the leader of theband, so he's on vocals also.
Steve Wynne, who was in theDream Syndicate, right?
And he did vocals and guitar.
And he was lead guitar for theminus five.
(21:23):
Peter Buck of R.E.M.
played bass.
Oh, bass.
Mike Mills of REM keyboards andLinda Pittman on drums.
Linda is Steve's wife.
And they were such a tight band.
It was so good.
They sounded fantastic.
I loved it.
(21:44):
And like I said, I was morefamiliar with them.
I knew some of the songs.
So it was great.
Had a great time and everythingwas great.
And then they finish, and thebaseball project is gonna come
out.
Well, for those of you thatdon't know, the baseball project
(22:05):
is the same people.
SPEAKER_03 (22:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (22:07):
So you got Scott on vocals and guitar, Steve on
vocals and guitar, Peter playsguitar, Mike is on bass.
As it normally is, and Lindaplays drums.
And you know, Peter played, youknow, you could hear REM
sounding chords, you know,different things that that Peter
(22:29):
was doing at times.
It was it was fantastic.
So the minus five has it's beenaround for a long time, and it
kind of has rotating members.
Peter Buck has always kind ofbeen one of the members, but
it's you know, differentprojects, different things go
on, they just kind of havedifferent people that will join
(22:50):
the group.
Uh the Go-Go's drummer, what'sher name?
Gina something.
She was part of the minus fiveat one time.
Oh.
And it it's just kind of cool.
Scott is really the main personthat's always part of it.
And they just keep going on.
(23:10):
And it was a great tour, greatum album, you know, that they
were torn for.
And then, you know, as thebaseball project, they are doing
songs that are related tobaseball.
Like they've written these indierock, you know, songs about
baseball.
So for the minus five, they didthe song Cassie Lee, Blowin' My
(23:32):
Bag, Words and Birds.
Really like that.
I actually had not heard CassieLee before.
It was my first time.
They opened up with it.
Really enjoyed it.
But then the baseball projectdid 1976, They Don't Know Henry,
which is about Hank Aaron, DiscoDemolition, which is something
we talked about on the podcastin Chicago in 1979 when they had
(23:54):
Disco Demolition Night.
From Nails to Thumbtacks, andthey sing a little bit about
Nails, who was uh Lenny Dijkstrafor the New York Mets, and to
the Veterans Committee, which isa song that Mike Mills sang
about Dale Murphy, that hebelongs in the Hall of Fame.
SPEAKER_03 (24:15):
So Greg Wheat was there last night.
I'm surprised you didn't runinto him.
SPEAKER_01 (24:18):
I did run into it.
Oh, you did run into him.
Great.
SPEAKER_03 (24:21):
So Greg Wheat, we know him from episode seven.
Uh I met his wife.
The cover of London Calling.
SPEAKER_01 (24:26):
Lovely person.
SPEAKER_03 (24:27):
And yeah, Tina is great.
And the Greg took a little videoof the Dale Murphy song.
You know, it says, uh, I want tosee Dale Murphy in the Hall of
Fame, something like that.
And he put it on Instagram andhe tagged Dale Murphy because he
follows Dale Murphy.
Now, Dale Murphy, for those thatdon't know, uh was the greatest
(24:48):
1980s Bra.
You know, he was when the Bravesabsolutely were always in last
place.
Dale Murphy was the one shiningstar that was like hitting home
runs and playing really well.
And uh they got rid of, theytraded Dale Murphy right before
the Braves got good.
And, you know, the 91 worst offirst season and everything was
(25:11):
just after they had traded DaleMurphy.
So he never really got to be onthe Braves when they were
winning.
But he, you know, a lot ofpeople want to see him in the
Hall of Fame.
So Greg puts it on there, hetags Dale Murphy.
Dale Murphy reposts Greg'sstory, says, thanks everybody.
And so it was really cool.
SPEAKER_01 (25:30):
That is very cool.
Uh Mike Mills talked before thesong, after the song, you know,
about, you know, writing to theVeterans Committee about how
important it was.
And he said something, don'tquote me, but it was like number
three on his back, but numberone in our hearts.
Something like that.
I don't remember exactly what hesaid because Dale Murphy was
number three.
When I moved here in 1990, Iactually got to see Dale Murphy
(25:54):
as I was going to a lot ofbaseball games back then,
especially when the New YorkMets came to town.
And, you know, he's definitelysomeone I'm glad that I got to
see play because he is someonethat is a a great baseball
player.
SPEAKER_03 (26:07):
For sure.
SPEAKER_01 (26:08):
So before the show starts, I can't believe I didn't
mention this.
They have a little merchandisething.
And I'm looking, they have someshirts, and they have some, you
know, a poster.
And I'm like, you know what?
I don't know, maybe I'll buy it,maybe I won't.
And the guy says they're gonnasign stuff after the show.
(26:31):
They're gonna set up a tableright here, and if you buy the
poster, they'll sign it.
So I said, you know, I'm gonnatake my chance, I'm gonna buy
the poster after the show.
And I'm starting to walk away,and all of a sudden something
catches my eye, and I look downand it's a drum skin, and on the
(26:51):
drum skin, it says TerminalWest, Atlanta, last show of the
tour, doubleheader, the minusfive, the baseball project.
It's signed by all the bandmembers, and I'm looking, and
the guy goes, We only do one pershow.
(27:12):
I said, sold.
And I actually said, I reallywanted the poster.
He gave me the poster next tonothing.
It was just kind of awesome.
It's so cool looking.
It really is super cool looking.
So there was no re-entry, youknow, you couldn't go out, but
they saw that I bought that, andthey were like, Oh, you want to
(27:33):
put it in your car?
And they were like, just goright out, go right ahead, don't
worry about it, and come back.
So after the show, like I said,they're signing, and you know,
go up.
And I said, Hey, I bought thedrum skin, because I didn't want
them to think that I'm up thereand I'm not supporting them.
I said, I bought the drum skinand a poster and they're in my
(27:56):
car.
Can you just sign my music andmy shoes shirt?
So Mike Mills has, you know, andit just goes on from person to
person.
And Peter Buck is looking and hesays, You lost your beard.
And I said, I had some skincancer, so I needed to shave.
(28:17):
And he's like, I apologize forbringing something like that up.
I said, No, no, you didn't know.
It's no big deal.
Everything was fine, got ittaken out, stitched up.
And the next thing, he's lookingat my face at what great work
the plastic surgeon did and justenjoying.
He's like, wow, that's reallygood.
And the next thing you know,Steve Wynne, who I told you was
(28:40):
vocals and and lead guitar, he'slooking, and they're both like,
yeah, man, look how good thatlooks.
And it was just it was justfunny to be there.
And I'm not making light of it.
Um, you know, again, I had thethe the least of any type of
skin cancer as far as you knowwhat can be bad for you.
It still needed to be removed.
(29:02):
And people have asked me becauseof the fact that, you know, the
music in my shoes logo has thebeard, and all of a sudden I
have no beard, and even PeterBuck is asking what's going on.
I ran into Kevin Kinney ofdriving and crying and his wife
Anna, and Kevin almost didn'teven realize he looked at my
shirt before he's like, nope,knew it was me, because he's
(29:23):
never seen me without a beard.
SPEAKER_03 (29:25):
Most people haven't.
SPEAKER_01 (29:26):
And he was just smiling, like, man, you wow, you
you you look good, and you know,it was it was fun.
You know, it was a it was a funnight.
Definitely had a fun night.
Started, you know, back on thethe 27th with Captain Sensible,
and then it just carried on overto the 30th, seeing all these
other people.
And it it was a great time anduh definitely a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_03 (29:50):
Nice little run there.
SPEAKER_01 (29:57):
Let's revisit some more music in my shoes.
The Beatles yesterday peaked atnumber one on Billboard Hot 100
October 9th, 1965.
I believe that's 60 years ago.
Hard to believe the song's thatold.
It's just Paul McCartney'svocals and guitar, no other
Beatle on it.
(30:17):
It was the first time that anyof them had done a song with not
the rest of them.
While it's credited to PaulMcCartney and John Lennon, you
know, Lennon and McCartney, itreally is just a Paul McCartney
solo thing.
No input from Lennon at all.
And just so people understand,their agreement was always
Lennon and McCartney, regardlessof who did what, that was how
(30:41):
they set it up.
And you know, if you take alook, it still says that.
Except if you get Paul McCartneylive albums, he will put
McCartney Lennon as the creditson.
Oh, really?
Yeah, he will do that.
So most lists have Yesterday asthe most covered song of all
time.
And I went through, I looked upa ton of lists by all different,
(31:04):
you know, uh magazines and justdifferent things.
And almost everybody hasYesterday as the most covered
song.
And it's like over 2,000different versions of the song.
SPEAKER_03 (31:15):
Wow, I would never have guessed that.
I don't know that I've heardthat many covers of it.
SPEAKER_01 (31:19):
Really?
SPEAKER_03 (31:20):
Yeah.
Who who can you think of that'slike a big cover of it?
SPEAKER_01 (31:24):
William Shatner.
All right.
So the original title.
SPEAKER_03 (31:28):
I've got a great story about William Shatner.
Do you really?
Yeah.
So I just found this outyesterday.
Whoa! Yeah.
It all ties in yesterday.
You know, Michael Myers.
SPEAKER_01 (31:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (31:41):
Not Mike Myers from Austin Powers, but the
Halloween.
Halloween, Michael Myers.
He had that mask.
Right.
Right?
It was like a white mask withkind of hair sticking up.
That was a William Shatner asCaptain Kirk mask that you could
buy at the store.
They bought it at the store,they spray painted it white, and
(32:02):
they stuck the hair up.
SPEAKER_01 (32:03):
No, they did not.
SPEAKER_03 (32:04):
And you can look it up, and there's side-by-side
pictures on the internet of theoriginal mask and the Michael
Myers mask, and they lookexactly the same.
SPEAKER_01 (32:11):
That is great.
I've never heard that.
That is funny.
And that fact that you found itout yesterday when we're talking
about the song yesterday.
SPEAKER_03 (32:19):
No, it is it's very apropos.
SPEAKER_01 (32:22):
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (32:22):
And and it's uh October now, so it's got a
Halloween tie-in.
SPEAKER_01 (32:26):
Spooky season is here among us.
So the original title of thesong yesterday was Scrambled
Eggs.
Yeah.
And it's hard to believe.
Scrambled eggs, oh my baby, howI love your legs, not as much as
I love scrambled eggs.
So back in December 2010, Pauland Jimmy Fallon performed a
(32:48):
version of Scrambled Eggs onLate Night with Jimmy Fallon.
That was uh obviously 15 yearsago, a long time ago, but I
remember watching and they did agood version of it.
SPEAKER_03 (32:59):
I I wonder if people have covered that.
SPEAKER_01 (33:01):
The scrambled eggs song?
Yeah.
Hey, I just did.
I just did spoken word scrambledeggs.
Whoa.
Speaking of scrambled eggs,tick, tick, tick.
It's Minute with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_02 (33:13):
It's time for a minute with Jimmy, Minute with
Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for a minute withJimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute
with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_03 (33:22):
All right, in uh 1980, Elvis Costello put out his
album, Get Happy.
And it's uh it's a pretty goodrecord.
You know, it has a bunch of uhhits on it, you know, I think
among Elvis Costello fans.
It's got I Can't Stand Up forFalling Down, High Fidelity, uh
New Amsterdam, good song, and uhand clown time is over.
(33:46):
So a couple of those made itonto Elvis Costello's greatest
hits.
But uh yeah, 45 years ago, heput out what I think.
Do you like this record?
SPEAKER_01 (33:55):
I do like it.
SPEAKER_03 (33:56):
Yeah.
So um, you know, it's probablynot my favorite Elvis Costello
album, but he he was reallysolid at always putting out
records year after year that hada few songs that you were really
gonna like on it.
So when another one of thoseartists that back in the day of
the BMG Music Club, I boughtevery single Elvis Costello
(34:19):
album.
I was at eight for a penny orwhatever it was, 13 for a penny,
or I think you ended up gettinguh eight CDs for the price of a
half a CD, but then you had topay shipping and some things,
but yeah, it was a pretty gooddeal.
SPEAKER_01 (34:32):
So there was this guy at school, and I think his
name was Warren.
I'm not a hundred percent.
He didn't run around the samecrowd that I did.
I think his name was Warren, andhe would have all these
different Elvis Costello shirts,and you know, would have the
album covers on, and he reallywas one of the people where I
was like, he's got all theseshirts, I need to check this guy
(34:53):
out, you know, because he'salways wearing it.
He really likes him, you know.
I he you'd hear him, you know,humming or you know, singing low
the songs.
And whenever I think of earlyElvis Costello, I always think
of back in the early days and ofthis guy.
I think like I said, I think hisname is Warren.
SPEAKER_03 (35:11):
All right, Warren.
Hello from Music in My Shoes toWarren.
SPEAKER_01 (35:15):
Yeah, I don't know what happened to him, but uh
hopefully he's listening today.
SPEAKER_03 (35:18):
I hope he still has one of those shirts.
SPEAKER_01 (35:20):
He's probably bigger now.
We all are.
SPEAKER_03 (35:23):
Hey, don't wish that on Warren.
I got Warren's back here.
SPEAKER_01 (35:27):
My name is Jim G.
I can't stand up for fallingdown, but what I can do is talk
about the clash.
This is England, WLIR Screamerof the Week, first week of
October 1985.
Last single by the Clash, noMick Jones at this point, three
(35:48):
new people in the group.
It was a shell of the band, youknow, that we really knew was
the clash.
The album that it was on thatcame out not not long after the
single was Cut the Crap.
But it's still good to hear JoeStrummer's voice.
Like, I can still listen to thissong.
I cannot listen to the rest ofthe album.
It is just beyond what I like.
SPEAKER_03 (36:10):
Have we talked about what happened with that album?
It they didn't finish it, andthen Bernie Rhodes, who was the
manager, went into the studioand he added all these like
synthesizers and whatever wasneeded to put it together, drum
machines and things to add toJoe's vocal tracks to to get it
(36:31):
out and make some money on it,and it was a it was a pretty bad
album, but the songs were good.
SPEAKER_01 (36:36):
Yeah, I really like this song.
You know, it was definitely whenit came out at first I was like,
what the heck is this?
But it's kind of stayed with me.
I do enjoy listening to this.
SPEAKER_03 (36:45):
I like a few songs on that album, and uh, and
that's one of them.
Yeah, and Dirty Punk, I wouldthat was the one song that I
thought had decent enoughproduction that I would actually
put it on mixtapes and stuffback then.
SPEAKER_01 (36:57):
Gotcha.
Yeah.
So Red Hot Chili Peppers, MyFriends, the single was released
October 9th, 1995.
It was on Billboard's mainstreamrock airplay from early October
until it peaked at number one onDecember 9th, 1995.
It seemed like my friends was onthe radio, especially rock
(37:18):
radio, uh 96 Rock, like it wasbeing played all of the time.
I really like it.
You know, it was off of thealbum One Hot Minute, very
different for them because JohnFreshante had left the band in
1992 and then Dave Navarrojoined.
He didn't want to, but they kindof talked him into it, and he's
(37:40):
a whole different type ofguitarist, a whole different
vibe.
And for those of you that don'tknow, Dave Navarro was in Jane's
addiction, and that's why I'mtalking about, you know, it was
a different vibe, a wholedifferent thing than what the
red hot chili peppers weredoing.
But if you get a chance, or ifyou haven't listened to it in a
long time, it's definitely agood song.
I listened the heck out of thatsong 30 years ago.
(38:02):
You can reach us atmusicinmyshoes at gmail.com.
Please like and follow the Musicin My Shoes Facebook and
Instagram pages.
That's it for episode 99 ofMusic in My Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie,show producer and owner of
Arcade 160 Studios, located herein Atlanta, Georgia, and Vic
Thrill for our podcast music.
(38:23):
This is Jim Boj, and I hope youlearned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
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