November 23, 2025 • 37 mins
A fast-moving tour through concerts, songs, and stories that still echo: REM’s 1995 blowout, U2’s 2005 highs, a supergroup surprise with Darius Rucker, Mike Mills, and Steve Gorman and how a ballad helped change maritime safety. We end with a spirited look at 80s alt gems and one notorious number-one.
• deep dive into REM’s 1995 Omni shows and rare covers
• U2’s 2005 setlist peaks, “Miss Sarajevo,” and a proposal during “One”
• Howl Owl Howl live review with Darius Rucker, Mike Mills, Steve Gorman
• airport chat about McCartney, Rod Stewart, and a Rick Astley ritual
• Gordon Lightfoot’s Edmund Fitzgerald and Great Lakes safety changes
• 70s–80s track talk: KC, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Cure, Oingo Boingo, Big Audio Dynamite
• hot take on Starship’s We Built This City
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SPEAKER_04 (00:34):
Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're
listening to Music in My Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 106.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
So, Jimmy, I just wanted tostart off by saying a reminder
to everyone you have untilDecember 1st to let us know if
(00:55):
you're interested in the firstthree records of the Let's Go
Dancing set.
There's four of them.
The fourth isn't out yet, butjust the first three, as well as
the Kevin Kinney Think About ItSolo vinyl.
Again, these are records.
These are old school.
SPEAKER_02 (01:12):
Yeah, they're big.
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So we've had a ton of people that have reached out
that are interested in them.
You have till December 1st toget your name in that you want
to be part of this so we can dothe drawing and see who's going
to be the lucky winner.
SPEAKER_02 (01:26):
Is it just one winner?
We're not going to givepiecemeal, they're going to be a
package deal, right?
SPEAKER_04 (01:31):
That is correct.
And and even better than that isthat Kevin Kinney and Anna
Jensen have signed all four ofthem.
SPEAKER_02 (01:41):
They did.
I watched it.
SPEAKER_04 (01:43):
Yes.
So I think that's really cool tobe able to win this vinyl, but
to also be able to win vinylthat is autographed the album
covers by the artist as well asthe artist who wrote the songs
initially.
For sure.
Very, very cool.
So you can reach us at musicinmyshoes at gmail.com.
(02:05):
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SPEAKER_02 (02:20):
Oh, it's four.
I thought it was three.
Oh, yeah, it's three.
Let's go dancing in the otherone.
Sorry, I tuned out for a second.
That's all right.
Can I enter?
Because I really want them.
I was getting very jealous whenthey're sitting there signing
the records.
Jimmy, no, you can't.
SPEAKER_04 (02:34):
I'm sorry.
There's like a little, we have alittle, what what do they call
those things?
SPEAKER_02 (02:38):
Um, I don't know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_04 (02:40):
Anyone that's associated with Music in My
Shoes is not eligible for thisprize.
Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (02:44):
We've got the boilerplate, uh, you know, terms
and conditions.
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Yes, that's that's what it is.
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We don't want the appearance of impropriety here.
SPEAKER_04 (02:52):
That is correct.
All right, we got that takencare of, Jimmy.
You know, one of the things isthat we've had guests on three
of the last four episodes, andwe had Johnny Hickman, we had
Monty Melnick, so Johnny Hickmanof Cracker, Monty A.
Melnick, the tour manager of theRamones, and last episode we had
(03:13):
Kevin Kinney of Driving andCrying, and the artist known as
every time I say it, I alwaysthink of Prince, the artist
formerly known as Yeah, no,she's still known as Anna
Jensen.
Yes, the artist known as AnnaJensen.
And what ends up happening isthat it takes away a bit of what
you know, my normal groove oftalking about a lot of different
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things like I normally do onmost episodes.
I love having the guests, but itthen makes it more difficult to
talk about some of the thingsthat are on the top of my head
because it just doesn't go withthe show when you have a
specific guest on.
Right.
So I got a lot of things I wantto go through.
So I'm gonna do it.
Let's right now we're gonna getinto it.
Right now.
Perfect.
Are you ready?
I'm ready.
(03:55):
Right now we're gonna do it.
We're gonna kick it off.
REM at the Omni Atlanta,Georgia, in November of 1995, 30
years ago.
So I saw them.
They played three shows.
It was the three last shows ofthe tour.
I went to two of them.
Luscious Jackson open up.
(04:15):
They were a pretty good band.
I don't know if you uh rememberthem.
SPEAKER_02 (04:19):
I remember the name, but I can't remember.
They have the name of songs.
SPEAKER_04 (04:21):
Like they probably their biggest song was uh Naked
Eye that they had.
They were pretty good.
They were actually friends withthe Beastie Boys back in the
early days.
And they signed with GrandRoyal, which is a Beastie Boy
record label, I believe.
But enough about them.
So REM's touring for Monster.
Monster came out in 1994, cameout like a year, over a year
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earlier in 1994, and here theyare, they're finishing up the
tour for it.
It was still popular.
Crush with Eyeliner, you know,that was still out as a song at
the time, which I love.
I really do like that song alot.
They hadn't toured since 1989,and there was a lot of, you
know, wow, what what are theygonna do?
Man, it's been so long.
(05:06):
Everybody just seemed to want togo see REM on this tour.
And especially because it was arocking album.
Monster really was much morerocking than the last two albums
that had come out, and it wassold out, and I mean they put
two shows up and they sold out,and then instantly they put
another, you know, a third one.
And I actually have the poster,not it's not even a poster.
(05:31):
It is the newspaper article fromlike the Atlanta Journal, the
Atlanta Constitution.
I don't remember when was theday, one was the night or
something.
And it was a full-page ad.
And I actually had Mike Millslast year autograph it.
And he looked at it, he thoughtit was pretty cool because it's
not the normal thing.
People don't normally come upwith newspaper advertisements.
(05:54):
Hey, can you sign this?
SPEAKER_02 (05:55):
True.
SPEAKER_04 (05:56):
And it, but it's cool.
I have it uh hanging up in mybasement.
So they played a bunch of um thesame songs both nights,
including What's the Frequency,Kenneth?
I love that song.
When that song first came out,because it was just such rock
and roll, so different thaneverybody hurts and losing my
religion, which I love thosesongs.
(06:17):
But I was ready in '94 for somerock, and this album delivered
100%.
But uh Crush with Eyeliner,Losing My Religion, Man on the
Moon, The One I Love, Pop Song89, Star 69, Night Swimming,
Everybody Hurts, It's the End ofthe World As We Know It, and I
(06:39):
Feel Fine.
I love that title.
Yeah.
And then they played, you know,one of the other nights, Fall on
Me, Begin the Begin, SouthCentral Rain.
They only played Radio FreeEurope once on the 95 tour.
I was at the show.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
And they did a cover of BlueOyster Colts Don't Fear the
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Reaper.
And I remember when they startedplaying it, I'm like, I don't
know this song, but it almostsounds like Don't Fear the
Reaper.
SPEAKER_02 (07:10):
I was gonna say, you don't know that song because you
didn't know their version.
SPEAKER_04 (07:12):
I didn't know their version.
And they did it, it was it wasall right.
You know, it wasn't bad.
It's cool sometimes to see aband go out and play, and it's
not perfect.
It's just something that theywant to do.
And it was it was fun.
I mean, I enjoyed it.
So what I did is I actually wentback and listened to it the
other night.
Because, you know, today you canfind anything you want.
(07:33):
And I went back and I listenedto the show, this particular
show with Don't Fear the Reaper,and it was as much fun as I
remembered it being.
So the last song on the lastnight of the tour, they did a
cover of Wild thing, and that'show they ended the 95 tour.
Kind of almost a campy version,but it was cool, you know,
because they were having fun,and this is it, it's all over.
SPEAKER_02 (07:55):
Aaron Ross Powell Well, and that's like a really
simple keg party kind of songthat, you know, it was one of
the first songs that a lot ofpeople learn on guitar.
So it's a way for them to kindof go back to their roots of
just being a fun party band.
SPEAKER_04 (08:08):
Aaron Ross Powell, which they were for sure, you
know.
And if I'm correct, I want tosay Monica Sellis was at the
show.
She was a big tennis player atthe time.
SPEAKER_02 (08:17):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (08:18):
What was that guy?
Jim Currier?
Jim was that his name?
Yeah.
He was there.
Dan Patrick of ESPN, he wasthere.
Chuck Lavelle was there.
Chuck Lavelle was keyboards forthe well, he is for the Rolling
Stones, but originally for umAlman Brothers band.
Right.
So there was a a ton of peoplethere, if I remember correctly.
(08:41):
But I had fun.
It was definitely a good time.
Uh I hadn't seen them since the83 tour when they opened up for
Joan Jett and the Black Arts andthe Police at Shea Stadium in
New York.
So it had been a bunch of years,and it was definitely different
with them being this big hugeheadliner.
(09:03):
And it it was a great show.
Did not disappoint.
So let's fast forward up to2005, November 18th.
Phillips Arena, which is wherethe Omni was.
They tore the Omni down, theybuilt Phillips Arena, and U2
plays.
They did two nights there.
I went to the first night.
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They were touring for the 2004album How to Dismantle an Atomic
Bomb.
We've talked about that before.
SPEAKER_02 (09:30):
As you know, I think it's the best U2 album uh in the
the last 30 years.
SPEAKER_04 (09:36):
Yeah, it's a great album.
It really is a great album.
I I'm with you.
Uh Gavin Rossdale of Bush, hehad a new band out and they were
called Institute.
And they played a couple of Bushsongs, but they played some of
their own, and it didn't do thatwell because pretty quickly
Gavin was back with uh Bush, youknow, doing his thing.
(09:58):
But they did uh The ChemicalsBetween Us, they did uh Machine
Head.
That's all I can remember.
They they might have donesomething else, but they did
those.
It sounded like Bush to a T.
You know, like there was nodifference.
They didn't even try and make asound any different, like, oh,
we're a different band.
It was it was Bush all the way.
(10:19):
You two performed newer songslike Vertigo, Elevation.
I say newer songs.
This is, you know, at the time,you know.
Uh Elevation, Beautiful Day,stuck at a moment you can't get
out of, Yahweh, all because ofyou, along with classics like
Mysterious Ways, Sunday, BloodySunday, Bullet the Blue Sky,
(10:42):
Pride in the Name of Love, Wherethe Streets Have No Name, One,
and 40.
And 40 is my all-time classicnumber one song to end any
concert of anything I've everseen is when U2 does 40, because
it is just an amazing song, andwhen the audience sings along
(11:05):
with it, and just the way thatit goes, that is the song for
the closing song on that tour?
It was.
It was the closing tour when Iwent that night.
SPEAKER_02 (11:14):
So because I went to that tour.
I don't know if I went the samenight you did.
It seems like I've seen you twoclose with walk on at some
point.
They switched over from 40 tothat, but maybe on that tour
they were still closing it with40.
SPEAKER_04 (11:30):
It might have been the 2001 tour that they close
with walk on, but I I thinkyou're right about that.
SPEAKER_02 (11:36):
I was sitting in the 2001 tour, I was sitting right
behind the stage, which kind ofsounds good.
Like literally, we're like kindof right behind the edge.
But the speakers weren't facingthat way, so the sound wasn't
that good back there.
But we were close to the band.
So then on the 2005 tour, I gotgood floor seats.
It was amazing.
SPEAKER_04 (11:57):
Awesome.
Yeah, I had good seats on the Ihad good seats for both of those
tours.
I had real good seats for bothof them.
So they performed Miss Sarajevoby passengers.
So the passengers was this likefake group because it was
actually you two with Brian Eno,and then they might have a
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guest, and on Miss Sarajevo,they had Luciano Pavarotti.
Oh.
And he's singing his opera stylein this song.
This song is great.
If you don't know this song, golisten to it.
It sounds like you two playingin the beginning, a little
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experimental because Brian Iknow's part of it.
But then Pavarotti startssinging.
If you don't like opera, it'sokay.
Because you will like this songand you will appreciate
Pavarotti for what he was.
And when they played on the18th, Bono did Pavarotti's part.
(13:01):
And it was absolutely out ofthis world.
I mean, I could not believe howgood he had done.
And and I started to think tomyself, if he didn't think he
could do something that was, I'mnot saying it was equal to
Pavarotti, no one's equal, butsomething where you could say
that was good, I don't think hewould have done it.
And I think it's something thathe practiced a lot.
(13:24):
It was fantastic.
It truly, truly was, and thatwas definitely a highlight of
the show for me.
So we went to the show with ourneighbors, Paul and Karen.
And Paul says to me somewherealong the night, I think I'm
gonna propose to Karen.
And I was like, Are you sure?
(13:44):
We had a couple, you know, afew.
Well, anyway, we had some adultbeverages, let's put it that
way.
Okay.
And I'm like, hey, why don't youwait until tomorrow?
And you two, the song one comeson, and he says to her, I
thought of proposing to youduring this song.
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And she goes into a purse andshe gets out some costume
jewelry, like a ring costumejewelry, and pulls it out to be
like, Hey, I'm calling yourbluff.
Here, you've got your chance.
They got engaged that night,George.
SPEAKER_02 (14:19):
Okay, congrats.
SPEAKER_04 (14:20):
Yes, they got engaged that night.
And at their wedding, they hadfound an actual recording of one
from that night, from that showthat they played as their
wedding song.
And back then, you couldn't findsongs the way you can today.
Like today, I can go on andlisten to any concert basically
(14:40):
I've ever been to and listen toit.
I can probably see some video ofit if I want to.
But back then, you couldn't doit.
And they had a friend that wentand found it and actually got
the recording so that they coulddance to it at their wedding.
And you know, they talked aboutit a little bit, and you know,
we were at the wedding, and itwas fantastic to have been there
(15:01):
the night that they got engagedwhen I was like, Yeah, I I don't
know, man.
I'm not sure you really want todo, you know, because it's one
thing to say, hey, I'm gonnapropose, you know, you're gonna
get down on your kneessomewhere.
It's a different thing whenyou're at a U-2 show and you're
piling cups up inside of eachother like we were doing.
(15:23):
But they are still together, anduh my hat's off to them.
SPEAKER_02 (15:27):
I have some friends that got engaged at a Foo
Fighters concert.
Really?
Yeah.
And and I think that I thinkDave Grohl kind of made a thing
out of it.
You know, they they they sawthat it was happening, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (15:38):
Oh, very nice.
You say one love, one life, whenit's one need in the night.
One love, we get to share it.
Leaves you baby if you don'tcare for it.
SPEAKER_02 (15:53):
Hey, Pavarotti eat your heart out.
SPEAKER_04 (15:55):
Hey, thank you.
I mentioned that I saw the lasttwo nights of REM's 1995 tour.
Thirty years later, I saw thelast night of the howl, owl,
howl tour at the VarietyPlayhouse in Atlanta on November
15th, 2025.
So the band is made up of DariusRucker of Hootie and the
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Blowfish, Mike Mills of REM,bassist and singer, and Steve
Gorman, former drummer of theBlack Crows.
And I really didn't know what toexpect going into this show, but
it was a good time.
It was originals, it was coversfrom their respective bands.
It was something that I reallywalked away saying, man, that
(16:40):
was worth the money.
It was a definitely a good time.
So Darius did a good job onvocals across the board because
he sang you know the band songs,he sang REM songs, he sang
hootie songs, he sang Black Crowsongs.
And I think that's kind of toughto be able to take your voice
(17:00):
all over the place when you'relike this professional singer.
Generally, people have likeareas that they stay in, that
their comfort zones.
Yeah.
And he was fantastic across allof them.
And, you know, the fans loved itbecause you could tell who was
there for hootie songs, and themost of the people that were
(17:23):
there, I would say were hootiepeople.
But the REM songs, the BlackCrow songs, and it was just
great.
I mean, it really was.
So Mike Mills sang a few.
He did Don't Go Back toRockville, which he wrote as a a
true story that he had writtenabout a girl going back to
Rockville, Maryland, and hedidn't want her to go.
(17:43):
Wow.
So he sang it, and then uhDarius joined in with them, and
he sang My Cologne, which is thefirst single from the band.
And the story is something likeAriana Grande had released a
fragrance, and the it was calledREM.
And Mike wrote My Cologne as aresponse back to that.
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And it has a line in it, I wantto smell like Ariana Grande, and
I think she wants you to smelllike me.
It is it's a good rocking song.
It's funny when you listen tothe words and you kind of know
the history about it, but it wascool.
Some other originals I liked,Fear, Doesn't Matter Now, used
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to be.
They did a cover of the BlackCrows cover of Otis Redding's
Hard to Handle.
And what was really cool is youknow you hear a song, a
drummer's in a band, and youdon't pay a whole lot of
attention, but the minute theystarted that song, you knew it
was the guy that played thedrums in the original Black
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Crow's cover.
Like you knew that's like it itwas exactly to a T to the way
the Black Crows had done it.
Um, so I thought that was reallycool.
Darius did a great version ofthe REM song I Believe, which is
you know one of my favoritesongs of REM.
He also sang Time, Let Her Cry,that are Hootie and the Blowfish
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songs, REM songs Losing MyReligion, The Show Closer, The
One I Love, and an awesomeversion of The Black Crows, She
Talks to Angels.
They didn't disappoint.
Really good show.
So keeping in this whole line ofconcerts and everything, a few
weeks ago I'm in LaGuardiaAirport in New York City and
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Queens, and I am wearing a PaulMcCartney concert shirt.
And I come down this escalator,and there's a guy there, you
know, you can ask questions to.
How do I get to my gate?
Where do I find this?
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he walks up to me, he seesme wearing the Paul McCartney
shirt, and he comments about it.
(19:57):
I say I saw him in Atlantarecently.
He's like, oh wow, you reallysaw him?
I'm like, yeah.
He goes, you know who I reallylike?
I'd really like to see RodStewart live.
I'm like, oh, I saw him in thesummer with um Cheap Trick
opening up.
He's like, really?
And I guess he just wanted tosee where he could go.
Because then he says hisfavorite is Rick Astley, and
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that when he hears Rick Astleyon the radio, he calls his
mother up to say their song isplaying.
And he says he never misses it.
He always calls his mother tosay, never gonna give you up,
never gonna let you down.
SPEAKER_02 (20:33):
All right, he's he's Rick rolling his mom.
SPEAKER_04 (20:39):
I guess so.
I guess so.
The things you learn aboutpeople just from wearing a Paul
McCartney concert t-shirt, nevergonna say goodbye, never gonna
tell a lie, and hurt you.
Fifty years ago on November10th, 1975, the SS Edmund
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Fitzgerald sank in Lake Superiorduring a storm.
Twenty-nine crew membersperished, and I'd say most
people know of the ship from the1976.
SPEAKER_02 (21:14):
Gordon Lightfoot song.
SPEAKER_04 (21:16):
Correct.
That's how I know.
I mean, really, that'severything I know about it was
really through that song.
It actually reached number two,November 20th, 1976, on
Billboard Hot 100.
Keeping it on people's minds,not just the song, but there
was, you know, a lot about howthis boat just all of a sudden
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disappeared and sank, and theydidn't find any of the people,
the 29 people, they didn't findanything.
They barely found anythinginitially from the ship at all.
And it was kind of a mystery.
But then with the help of ofGordon Lightfoot's song, they
were able to put in all kinds ofsafety regulations that they had
(21:58):
not had before.
And it really changed the waythat shipping was done on the
Great Lakes.
Because it was uh Lake Superior,I believe, is where the ship
went down.
So before the Edmund Fitzgeraldsank, if you go back about a
hundred and sixty years, in theparticular area that it sank,
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almost two hundred and fiftyships had sunk.
Since they put in those safetyregulations in the last fifty
years, zero.
Oh wow.
Zero.
And I think that makes a a huge,huge difference about putting
safety ahead of everything else.
SPEAKER_02 (22:40):
Aaron Ross Powell It's amazing that many people
died, you know, you would thinkthat you would have uh lifeboats
and life preservers and things.
SPEAKER_04 (22:47):
Aaron Powell Yeah, they didn't have all of the
things that they have today thatare required.
You know, like today you have tohave the safety vest, the life
vest that has the lights or themakes the sounds.
They didn't have that.
That wasn't something theyneeded to do at the time.
And it's just amazing how oneevent and you know, coupled with
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a song, I'm not saying that thesong did it all, but it's so
many people knew about itbecause of the song, what you
know, the changes in life thatit could actually make.
Jimmy, let's change gears alittle bit.
I mean, honestly, I think that'sa r uh, you know, an important
story for people that withsafety, and it's really cool
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that music was part of it.
And, you know, unfortunately, 29people perished, but a lot of
people's lives have been saved.
SPEAKER_02 (23:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (23:37):
So let's change up a little bit with tick-tick-tick.
It's Minute with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_03 (23:42):
It's time for a minute with Jimmy, Minute with
Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for a minute withJimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute
with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_02 (23:51):
Well, Jim, I found a loophole in the Minute with
Jimmy bylaws.
I've read the terms andconditions, and it doesn't say
that I have to talk about music.
So today I'm talking about theGeorgia Bulldogs versus Texas
Longhorns football game that Iwent to over the weekend.
I had the greatest time.
Athens, Georgia is one of thebest towns in the world, the
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greatest college town in theworld, and went up there uh with
a good friend that came in fromout of town.
And he is one of these guysthat, you know, he's done well
in business and he has peoplethat get him tickets to things,
which is really nice.
And he shares with his friends.
Well, he this to this game, hegot field passes to go on the
field and be on the sideline ofthe Georgia, Texas football
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game.
SPEAKER_04 (24:34):
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (24:34):
We actually had passes just to be there until
kickoff, but we kind ofoverstayed our welcome and
stayed for the first like five,10 minutes of the game.
But yeah, we got pictures withthe mascots and you know, the
actual Ugga, the live dog outthere.
We got a picture with him in hisdoghouse, and uh it was it was a
blast.
So go dogs.
SPEAKER_04 (24:55):
That was really good timing there, Jimmy.
SPEAKER_02 (24:57):
I'm telling you, I'm good at it.
SPEAKER_04 (24:58):
You are.
No, that's a really cool story.
So you probably don't knowbecause we don't talk a ton
about sports.
Every once in a while I'll s putsomething out there.
But correct me if I'm wrong,Jimmy.
You went out to Texas last year.
That's right.
What what city do they play in?
Austin.
Austin.
You went to Austin, Texas lastyear to try and go to the game,
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but the ticket prices were soexpensive you couldn't go.
SPEAKER_02 (25:22):
Yeah.
It went up uh on game day, whichis usually when I buy tickets
because that's when prices godown a little bit.
It went up to a thousand dollarsjust to get in the stadium at in
Austin last year.
SPEAKER_04 (25:33):
Oh my lord.
So this year you're able to gobecause a friend comes into town
that's got business connections,and not only do you get to watch
the game, you get to meet Ugga,the dog, the bulldog the live
bulldog.
No, you didn't.
Yeah.
Did you really?
SPEAKER_02 (25:51):
He walked right past us.
SPEAKER_04 (25:52):
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (25:52):
Was he wearing the He was wearing his uh his ratty
coat, man.
That coat, that's like a gottabe his favorite coat that he's
had forever because it's gotholes and worn spots and things
on it.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (26:05):
TV must do something with it.
You know how they say TV adds 10pounds?
TV must make it look good orsomething.
SPEAKER_02 (26:11):
I it does because I had no idea that it was it was
that worn.
How tall is he?
Oh gosh, I don't know.
I mean, I would I would guessprobably 5'11, something like
that.
SPEAKER_04 (26:20):
Yeah, all right.
I only asked since you saw himlive.
That's I would never ask thatquestion, but I was just
wondering.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (26:28):
Now I have a friend that met Sylvester Stallone, and
he said Sylvester Stallone is isa lot shorter than a lot of
people would picture.
SPEAKER_04 (26:35):
Yes, I've heard that also.
Yeah.
I know someone that did some uhacting in a movie with him and
said he was much shorter thanwhat you would think.
SPEAKER_02 (26:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (26:43):
Well, I like that minute with Jimmy.
That was pretty cool.
And by the way, if I'm notmistaken, Georgia won.
SPEAKER_02 (26:51):
Big.
Yeah.
Yeah, 35 to 10.
SPEAKER_04 (26:54):
Woo! My name is Jimmy.
Well, I'm not trying to do anonside kick, but let's revisit
some more music in my shoes.
Nice.
Casey and the Sunshine Band,That's the Way I Like It, peaked
at number one on Billboard Hot100, November 22nd, 1975.
That's the way, uh-huh, uh-huh.
(27:15):
I like doing it my way, sayingit like that.
Yeah.
That reminds me of a song um byTrio.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
And what you do and what youwon't.
Uh-huh.
Da-da-da.
Da-da-da.
Yeah.
So when I say uh-huh, eventhough that's not the way they
necessarily say it, and that'sthe way I like it, I always
think of that other song.
(27:35):
That's just how my head goes.
I'm just thinking a millionthings.
But, you know, I gotta be honestwith you.
I like Casey and the SunshineBand.
We had uh listener Barry, whohad written in to us at one
point saying that he did notthink that Casey and the
Sunshine Band was a disco band,and that when someone said it
(27:55):
was, that it really hurt hisfeelings, and he was like, no,
they're not.
No, that, you know.
And and KC, um, he he said thatwe're like a funk band.
We're, you know, we're a partyband and stuff.
But I do like Casey and theSunshine Band.
I like almost all their songs.
They're fun.
They're fun.
And if you were at an event, awedding, or school dance or
(28:18):
whatever it might be, when oneof the KC and the Sunshine Band
songs came on, everybody seemedto get up.
Everybody knew it, everybodywanted to be part of it.
SPEAKER_02 (28:26):
Yeah, everyone wants to disco dance to KC and the
Sunshine Band.
All right.
So anyway, moving on.
SPEAKER_04 (28:33):
Let's move on to Echo and the Bunnymen bring on
the Dancing Horses, which couldnot be any different than KC and
the Sunshine Band.
It was the WLIR Screamer of theWeek, the fourth week of October
1985.
Bring on the Dancing Horses,Headless and All Alone.
Shiver and say the words ofevery lie you've heard.
(28:56):
It's recorded for the 86 filmPretty in Pink.
It's a fantastic song.
And it's not like many songs onsoundtracks at the time.
You know, soundtracks started tobecome a whole different animal.
But when you look at soundtracksin the 80s, you know, there were
some soundtracks.
You're like, I don't know asingle one of those songs.
They just hired some band, youknow, to just do some
(29:20):
synthesizer or this.
And but this was like, wow, thisis a great song.
How is this on, you know, uh asoundtrack?
It came out before the moviecame out.
Movie came out in 86, I believeit was.
You know, John Hughes film, andhe kind of just was the guy that
started to use songs to getpeople to want to go to the
(29:43):
films and kind of associatesongs with films, teenage films.
He he did a really good job withit.
SPEAKER_02 (29:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (29:51):
The cure push, WLIR Screamer of the Week, the
following week, fifth week ofOctober nineteen eighty five.
I know.
I've talked about this before.
I think you might have broughtthe album up head on the door at
one point too, Jimmy.
Yep.
A four and a half minute song,and the intro is about two
minutes and twenty-three,twenty-four seconds.
(30:12):
All right.
And I absolutely love that.
I was like, man, this is just socool.
Taking a pop song, you know,it's alternative, but still
still to me, it was kind ofpoppy, being able to do just
different things than what a popsong would be like.
And that really drew me into thecure.
I'd been listening to them foryears, but I really did like
this phase of them.
(30:32):
Can't say enough about thealbum, head on the door, like I
just said.
Oingo Boingo Stay, W-L-I-R,Screamer of the Week, second
week of November 1985.
This is my favorite Oingo Boingosong.
A serious song compared to WeirdScience, Dead Man's Party, and
it's, you know, kind of likeabout a breakup happening.
(30:56):
Super serious.
I absolutely love it.
This is not the first time youtried to get away.
This is not a party where peopleknow your name.
Go.
Don't you go?
Won't you stay with me one moreday?
Love that song.
Love it.
Big Audio Dynamite.
E equals MC Squared, WLIR Screamof the Week, third week of
(31:21):
November 1985.
Back on episode 99, we spokeabout Mick Jones not being in
the clash.
The clash releases a song, Thisis England.
You like the album a little bitmore than what I did.
The album was called Cut theCrap.
SPEAKER_02 (31:36):
I mean, I I liked the songs on it.
I thought the production on thealbum was incredibly bad.
SPEAKER_04 (31:43):
Yes.
Here is Mick Jones, who waskicked out of the band, This Is
His Response.
And it is just fantastic.
They have this album come out,debut album by Big Audio
Dynamite called This Is BigAudio Dynamite.
And it couldn't be more of adifferent sound than what the
(32:04):
classroom was.
SPEAKER_02 (32:05):
I know I was going to say the same thing.
Like how many people can be inan iconic band like that and
then just kind of throw it allto the side and say, I'm doing
something completely different.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_04 (32:15):
Completely.
So different, with lots ofsamples, you know, sampling
different songs or movies,voiceovers from movies.
It just was super cool the waythat they did everything, and
everything seemed to go, youknow, it just seemed to make
sense in what they were doing.
This was not the clash for sure,but I liked it.
(32:37):
I really did like it.
I went back and I listened tothe album uh a couple of weeks
ago.
Because again, I've talked aboutthis before.
I try and do that when I haven'tlistened to something recently.
What do I think about it now?
And it still sounds good.
It really does, yeah.
You know?
No in your face guitar andvocals, but more like a
(32:57):
pop-oriented, synthesized dancemusic, and I couldn't get enough
of it.
I've seen Big Audio Dynama, Ithink two times, maybe three
times.
Definitely great shows.
It was a lot of fun.
Uh first single was bottom line.
I'm surprised this wasn't ascreamer.
This was a really good song.
(33:18):
The horses are on the track.
And I just like I remember whenthe song came out, and people
would ask me a question, I'd belike, The horses are on the
track.
And people would be like, Whatare you talking about?
The medicine show video actuallyhad clash members Joe Strummer
and Paul Simonen playing policeofficers, and Johnny Rotten of
(33:40):
the Sex Pistols makes anappearance in the actual video.
That's great.
Again, it's not the clash, butit's fun to listen to.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02 (33:49):
And it shows you that they still, you know, loved
each other, even though they theband broke up, it they were
still friends.
SPEAKER_04 (33:55):
Aaron Powell Yes.
And I think about this pointthat they realized they didn't
break up because then they brokeup because their manager was,
you know, making them go againsteach other, and they realized
what the truth was.
But at this point, they hadalready kind of committed to
what their new projects were.
One being cut the crap for theclash, the other being this is
big audio dynamite.
SPEAKER_02 (34:16):
And then Joe did some really great stuff after
that as well.
Oh, yeah.
Like the Mascaleros and the solostuff.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (34:21):
Yeah.
Fantastic stuff.
And then had Mick join him atone show that was fantastic in
England.
I think it was for like abenefit for the firefighters or
something.
So often mentioned as the worstsong ever, and I am in that
camp.
We built the city by Starship,reached number one on Billboard,
(34:43):
Hot 100, November 16th, 1985.
Now, it is also one of the worstnights of my life for not
feeling the best.
We talked about that on the lastepisode.
SPEAKER_02 (34:57):
They're rubbing it in.
SPEAKER_04 (34:58):
I don't know if it has anything to do with each
other.
But this was, I was working in aplace.
I've I I mentioned this likewhen probably when we first
started the show, or no,actually earlier this year.
And I was working at a placewhere they piped in the music.
You had to listen to whateversomeone in the office had.
(35:19):
And we would listen to top 40,and this song was on all the
time.
And it almost sounds likethere's no instruments.
There's a guitar solo.
It sounds like everything isjust electronic, but just not
good electronic.
I mean, just terrible.
(35:40):
Like they got like a toy almost.
Yes, like a toy, you know?
SPEAKER_02 (35:45):
And it is Did the kid press that button again?
SPEAKER_04 (35:48):
So today I listened to the song twice.
Just to say, let me see.
Because I get a lot of ofgarbage from people, like, hey,
how can you say that about thatsong?
That's a really good song.
And I know I'm gonna hear aboutit now.
It is still one of the worstsongs, if it's not the worst
song.
It's number one.
All right.
(36:08):
It really still is.
Marconi plays the Mamba, listento the radio.
Don't you remember?
We built this city.
We built this city on rock androll.
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (36:24):
Marconi was the creator of radio.
So they're saying that he'splaying the Mamba.
Listen to the radio.
It's just it's a bad, it's a badline.
SPEAKER_04 (36:35):
Well, Jimmy, I don't think I can take any more.
Unfortunately, that's it forepisode 106 of Music in My
Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie,show producer and owner of
Arcade 160 Studios, occasionalMamba player, located here in
Atlanta, Georgia, and Vic Thrillfor our podcast music.
(36:56):
This is Jim Bog, and I hope youlearned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're
listening to Music in My Shoes.
That was Vic Thrill kicking offepisode 106.
As always, I'm thrilled to behere with you.
Let's learn something new orremember something old.
So, Jimmy, I just wanted tostart off by saying a reminder
to everyone you have untilDecember 1st to let us know if
(00:55):
you're interested in the firstthree records of the Let's Go
Dancing set.
There's four of them.
The fourth isn't out yet, butjust the first three, as well as
the Kevin Kinney Think About ItSolo vinyl.
Again, these are records.
These are old school.
SPEAKER_02 (01:12):
Yeah, they're big.
SPEAKER_04 (01:14):
So we've had a ton of people that have reached out
that are interested in them.
You have till December 1st toget your name in that you want
to be part of this so we can dothe drawing and see who's going
to be the lucky winner.
SPEAKER_02 (01:26):
Is it just one winner?
We're not going to givepiecemeal, they're going to be a
package deal, right?
SPEAKER_04 (01:31):
That is correct.
And and even better than that isthat Kevin Kinney and Anna
Jensen have signed all four ofthem.
SPEAKER_02 (01:41):
They did.
I watched it.
SPEAKER_04 (01:43):
Yes.
So I think that's really cool tobe able to win this vinyl, but
to also be able to win vinylthat is autographed the album
covers by the artist as well asthe artist who wrote the songs
initially.
For sure.
Very, very cool.
So you can reach us at musicinmyshoes at gmail.com.
(02:05):
You can hit us up on Facebook,Instagram, at MusicInMy Shoes.
But again, that's till December1st, 2025, if you want to be in
the running for the drawing offour vinyl records.
SPEAKER_02 (02:20):
Oh, it's four.
I thought it was three.
Oh, yeah, it's three.
Let's go dancing in the otherone.
Sorry, I tuned out for a second.
That's all right.
Can I enter?
Because I really want them.
I was getting very jealous whenthey're sitting there signing
the records.
Jimmy, no, you can't.
SPEAKER_04 (02:34):
I'm sorry.
There's like a little, we have alittle, what what do they call
those things?
SPEAKER_02 (02:38):
Um, I don't know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_04 (02:40):
Anyone that's associated with Music in My
Shoes is not eligible for thisprize.
Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (02:44):
We've got the boilerplate, uh, you know, terms
and conditions.
SPEAKER_04 (02:48):
Yes, that's that's what it is.
SPEAKER_02 (02:49):
We don't want the appearance of impropriety here.
SPEAKER_04 (02:52):
That is correct.
All right, we got that takencare of, Jimmy.
You know, one of the things isthat we've had guests on three
of the last four episodes, andwe had Johnny Hickman, we had
Monty Melnick, so Johnny Hickmanof Cracker, Monty A.
Melnick, the tour manager of theRamones, and last episode we had
(03:13):
Kevin Kinney of Driving andCrying, and the artist known as
every time I say it, I alwaysthink of Prince, the artist
formerly known as Yeah, no,she's still known as Anna
Jensen.
Yes, the artist known as AnnaJensen.
And what ends up happening isthat it takes away a bit of what
you know, my normal groove oftalking about a lot of different
(03:34):
things like I normally do onmost episodes.
I love having the guests, but itthen makes it more difficult to
talk about some of the thingsthat are on the top of my head
because it just doesn't go withthe show when you have a
specific guest on.
Right.
So I got a lot of things I wantto go through.
So I'm gonna do it.
Let's right now we're gonna getinto it.
Right now.
Perfect.
Are you ready?
I'm ready.
(03:55):
Right now we're gonna do it.
We're gonna kick it off.
REM at the Omni Atlanta,Georgia, in November of 1995, 30
years ago.
So I saw them.
They played three shows.
It was the three last shows ofthe tour.
I went to two of them.
Luscious Jackson open up.
(04:15):
They were a pretty good band.
I don't know if you uh rememberthem.
SPEAKER_02 (04:19):
I remember the name, but I can't remember.
They have the name of songs.
SPEAKER_04 (04:21):
Like they probably their biggest song was uh Naked
Eye that they had.
They were pretty good.
They were actually friends withthe Beastie Boys back in the
early days.
And they signed with GrandRoyal, which is a Beastie Boy
record label, I believe.
But enough about them.
So REM's touring for Monster.
Monster came out in 1994, cameout like a year, over a year
(04:45):
earlier in 1994, and here theyare, they're finishing up the
tour for it.
It was still popular.
Crush with Eyeliner, you know,that was still out as a song at
the time, which I love.
I really do like that song alot.
They hadn't toured since 1989,and there was a lot of, you
know, wow, what what are theygonna do?
Man, it's been so long.
(05:06):
Everybody just seemed to want togo see REM on this tour.
And especially because it was arocking album.
Monster really was much morerocking than the last two albums
that had come out, and it wassold out, and I mean they put
two shows up and they sold out,and then instantly they put
another, you know, a third one.
And I actually have the poster,not it's not even a poster.
(05:31):
It is the newspaper article fromlike the Atlanta Journal, the
Atlanta Constitution.
I don't remember when was theday, one was the night or
something.
And it was a full-page ad.
And I actually had Mike Millslast year autograph it.
And he looked at it, he thoughtit was pretty cool because it's
not the normal thing.
People don't normally come upwith newspaper advertisements.
(05:54):
Hey, can you sign this?
SPEAKER_02 (05:55):
True.
SPEAKER_04 (05:56):
And it, but it's cool.
I have it uh hanging up in mybasement.
So they played a bunch of um thesame songs both nights,
including What's the Frequency,Kenneth?
I love that song.
When that song first came out,because it was just such rock
and roll, so different thaneverybody hurts and losing my
religion, which I love thosesongs.
(06:17):
But I was ready in '94 for somerock, and this album delivered
100%.
But uh Crush with Eyeliner,Losing My Religion, Man on the
Moon, The One I Love, Pop Song89, Star 69, Night Swimming,
Everybody Hurts, It's the End ofthe World As We Know It, and I
(06:39):
Feel Fine.
I love that title.
Yeah.
And then they played, you know,one of the other nights, Fall on
Me, Begin the Begin, SouthCentral Rain.
They only played Radio FreeEurope once on the 95 tour.
I was at the show.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
And they did a cover of BlueOyster Colts Don't Fear the
(07:02):
Reaper.
And I remember when they startedplaying it, I'm like, I don't
know this song, but it almostsounds like Don't Fear the
Reaper.
SPEAKER_02 (07:10):
I was gonna say, you don't know that song because you
didn't know their version.
SPEAKER_04 (07:12):
I didn't know their version.
And they did it, it was it wasall right.
You know, it wasn't bad.
It's cool sometimes to see aband go out and play, and it's
not perfect.
It's just something that theywant to do.
And it was it was fun.
I mean, I enjoyed it.
So what I did is I actually wentback and listened to it the
other night.
Because, you know, today you canfind anything you want.
(07:33):
And I went back and I listenedto the show, this particular
show with Don't Fear the Reaper,and it was as much fun as I
remembered it being.
So the last song on the lastnight of the tour, they did a
cover of Wild thing, and that'show they ended the 95 tour.
Kind of almost a campy version,but it was cool, you know,
because they were having fun,and this is it, it's all over.
SPEAKER_02 (07:55):
Aaron Ross Powell Well, and that's like a really
simple keg party kind of songthat, you know, it was one of
the first songs that a lot ofpeople learn on guitar.
So it's a way for them to kindof go back to their roots of
just being a fun party band.
SPEAKER_04 (08:08):
Aaron Ross Powell, which they were for sure, you
know.
And if I'm correct, I want tosay Monica Sellis was at the
show.
She was a big tennis player atthe time.
SPEAKER_02 (08:17):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (08:18):
What was that guy?
Jim Currier?
Jim was that his name?
Yeah.
He was there.
Dan Patrick of ESPN, he wasthere.
Chuck Lavelle was there.
Chuck Lavelle was keyboards forthe well, he is for the Rolling
Stones, but originally for umAlman Brothers band.
Right.
So there was a a ton of peoplethere, if I remember correctly.
(08:41):
But I had fun.
It was definitely a good time.
Uh I hadn't seen them since the83 tour when they opened up for
Joan Jett and the Black Arts andthe Police at Shea Stadium in
New York.
So it had been a bunch of years,and it was definitely different
with them being this big hugeheadliner.
(09:03):
And it it was a great show.
Did not disappoint.
So let's fast forward up to2005, November 18th.
Phillips Arena, which is wherethe Omni was.
They tore the Omni down, theybuilt Phillips Arena, and U2
plays.
They did two nights there.
I went to the first night.
(09:25):
They were touring for the 2004album How to Dismantle an Atomic
Bomb.
We've talked about that before.
SPEAKER_02 (09:30):
As you know, I think it's the best U2 album uh in the
the last 30 years.
SPEAKER_04 (09:36):
Yeah, it's a great album.
It really is a great album.
I I'm with you.
Uh Gavin Rossdale of Bush, hehad a new band out and they were
called Institute.
And they played a couple of Bushsongs, but they played some of
their own, and it didn't do thatwell because pretty quickly
Gavin was back with uh Bush, youknow, doing his thing.
(09:58):
But they did uh The ChemicalsBetween Us, they did uh Machine
Head.
That's all I can remember.
They they might have donesomething else, but they did
those.
It sounded like Bush to a T.
You know, like there was nodifference.
They didn't even try and make asound any different, like, oh,
we're a different band.
It was it was Bush all the way.
(10:19):
You two performed newer songslike Vertigo, Elevation.
I say newer songs.
This is, you know, at the time,you know.
Uh Elevation, Beautiful Day,stuck at a moment you can't get
out of, Yahweh, all because ofyou, along with classics like
Mysterious Ways, Sunday, BloodySunday, Bullet the Blue Sky,
(10:42):
Pride in the Name of Love, Wherethe Streets Have No Name, One,
and 40.
And 40 is my all-time classicnumber one song to end any
concert of anything I've everseen is when U2 does 40, because
it is just an amazing song, andwhen the audience sings along
(11:05):
with it, and just the way thatit goes, that is the song for
the closing song on that tour?
It was.
It was the closing tour when Iwent that night.
SPEAKER_02 (11:14):
So because I went to that tour.
I don't know if I went the samenight you did.
It seems like I've seen you twoclose with walk on at some
point.
They switched over from 40 tothat, but maybe on that tour
they were still closing it with40.
SPEAKER_04 (11:30):
It might have been the 2001 tour that they close
with walk on, but I I thinkyou're right about that.
SPEAKER_02 (11:36):
I was sitting in the 2001 tour, I was sitting right
behind the stage, which kind ofsounds good.
Like literally, we're like kindof right behind the edge.
But the speakers weren't facingthat way, so the sound wasn't
that good back there.
But we were close to the band.
So then on the 2005 tour, I gotgood floor seats.
It was amazing.
SPEAKER_04 (11:57):
Awesome.
Yeah, I had good seats on the Ihad good seats for both of those
tours.
I had real good seats for bothof them.
So they performed Miss Sarajevoby passengers.
So the passengers was this likefake group because it was
actually you two with Brian Eno,and then they might have a
(12:18):
guest, and on Miss Sarajevo,they had Luciano Pavarotti.
Oh.
And he's singing his opera stylein this song.
This song is great.
If you don't know this song, golisten to it.
It sounds like you two playingin the beginning, a little
(12:38):
experimental because Brian Iknow's part of it.
But then Pavarotti startssinging.
If you don't like opera, it'sokay.
Because you will like this songand you will appreciate
Pavarotti for what he was.
And when they played on the18th, Bono did Pavarotti's part.
(13:01):
And it was absolutely out ofthis world.
I mean, I could not believe howgood he had done.
And and I started to think tomyself, if he didn't think he
could do something that was, I'mnot saying it was equal to
Pavarotti, no one's equal, butsomething where you could say
that was good, I don't think hewould have done it.
And I think it's something thathe practiced a lot.
(13:24):
It was fantastic.
It truly, truly was, and thatwas definitely a highlight of
the show for me.
So we went to the show with ourneighbors, Paul and Karen.
And Paul says to me somewherealong the night, I think I'm
gonna propose to Karen.
And I was like, Are you sure?
(13:44):
We had a couple, you know, afew.
Well, anyway, we had some adultbeverages, let's put it that
way.
Okay.
And I'm like, hey, why don't youwait until tomorrow?
And you two, the song one comeson, and he says to her, I
thought of proposing to youduring this song.
(14:04):
And she goes into a purse andshe gets out some costume
jewelry, like a ring costumejewelry, and pulls it out to be
like, Hey, I'm calling yourbluff.
Here, you've got your chance.
They got engaged that night,George.
SPEAKER_02 (14:19):
Okay, congrats.
SPEAKER_04 (14:20):
Yes, they got engaged that night.
And at their wedding, they hadfound an actual recording of one
from that night, from that showthat they played as their
wedding song.
And back then, you couldn't findsongs the way you can today.
Like today, I can go on andlisten to any concert basically
(14:40):
I've ever been to and listen toit.
I can probably see some video ofit if I want to.
But back then, you couldn't doit.
And they had a friend that wentand found it and actually got
the recording so that they coulddance to it at their wedding.
And you know, they talked aboutit a little bit, and you know,
we were at the wedding, and itwas fantastic to have been there
(15:01):
the night that they got engagedwhen I was like, Yeah, I I don't
know, man.
I'm not sure you really want todo, you know, because it's one
thing to say, hey, I'm gonnapropose, you know, you're gonna
get down on your kneessomewhere.
It's a different thing whenyou're at a U-2 show and you're
piling cups up inside of eachother like we were doing.
(15:23):
But they are still together, anduh my hat's off to them.
SPEAKER_02 (15:27):
I have some friends that got engaged at a Foo
Fighters concert.
Really?
Yeah.
And and I think that I thinkDave Grohl kind of made a thing
out of it.
You know, they they they sawthat it was happening, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (15:38):
Oh, very nice.
You say one love, one life, whenit's one need in the night.
One love, we get to share it.
Leaves you baby if you don'tcare for it.
SPEAKER_02 (15:53):
Hey, Pavarotti eat your heart out.
SPEAKER_04 (15:55):
Hey, thank you.
I mentioned that I saw the lasttwo nights of REM's 1995 tour.
Thirty years later, I saw thelast night of the howl, owl,
howl tour at the VarietyPlayhouse in Atlanta on November
15th, 2025.
So the band is made up of DariusRucker of Hootie and the
(16:17):
Blowfish, Mike Mills of REM,bassist and singer, and Steve
Gorman, former drummer of theBlack Crows.
And I really didn't know what toexpect going into this show, but
it was a good time.
It was originals, it was coversfrom their respective bands.
It was something that I reallywalked away saying, man, that
(16:40):
was worth the money.
It was a definitely a good time.
So Darius did a good job onvocals across the board because
he sang you know the band songs,he sang REM songs, he sang
hootie songs, he sang Black Crowsongs.
And I think that's kind of toughto be able to take your voice
(17:00):
all over the place when you'relike this professional singer.
Generally, people have likeareas that they stay in, that
their comfort zones.
Yeah.
And he was fantastic across allof them.
And, you know, the fans loved itbecause you could tell who was
there for hootie songs, and themost of the people that were
(17:23):
there, I would say were hootiepeople.
But the REM songs, the BlackCrow songs, and it was just
great.
I mean, it really was.
So Mike Mills sang a few.
He did Don't Go Back toRockville, which he wrote as a a
true story that he had writtenabout a girl going back to
Rockville, Maryland, and hedidn't want her to go.
(17:43):
Wow.
So he sang it, and then uhDarius joined in with them, and
he sang My Cologne, which is thefirst single from the band.
And the story is something likeAriana Grande had released a
fragrance, and the it was calledREM.
And Mike wrote My Cologne as aresponse back to that.
(18:09):
And it has a line in it, I wantto smell like Ariana Grande, and
I think she wants you to smelllike me.
It is it's a good rocking song.
It's funny when you listen tothe words and you kind of know
the history about it, but it wascool.
Some other originals I liked,Fear, Doesn't Matter Now, used
(18:30):
to be.
They did a cover of the BlackCrows cover of Otis Redding's
Hard to Handle.
And what was really cool is youknow you hear a song, a
drummer's in a band, and youdon't pay a whole lot of
attention, but the minute theystarted that song, you knew it
was the guy that played thedrums in the original Black
(18:52):
Crow's cover.
Like you knew that's like it itwas exactly to a T to the way
the Black Crows had done it.
Um, so I thought that was reallycool.
Darius did a great version ofthe REM song I Believe, which is
you know one of my favoritesongs of REM.
He also sang Time, Let Her Cry,that are Hootie and the Blowfish
(19:14):
songs, REM songs Losing MyReligion, The Show Closer, The
One I Love, and an awesomeversion of The Black Crows, She
Talks to Angels.
They didn't disappoint.
Really good show.
So keeping in this whole line ofconcerts and everything, a few
weeks ago I'm in LaGuardiaAirport in New York City and
(19:37):
Queens, and I am wearing a PaulMcCartney concert shirt.
And I come down this escalator,and there's a guy there, you
know, you can ask questions to.
How do I get to my gate?
Where do I find this?
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he walks up to me, he seesme wearing the Paul McCartney
shirt, and he comments about it.
(19:57):
I say I saw him in Atlantarecently.
He's like, oh wow, you reallysaw him?
I'm like, yeah.
He goes, you know who I reallylike?
I'd really like to see RodStewart live.
I'm like, oh, I saw him in thesummer with um Cheap Trick
opening up.
He's like, really?
And I guess he just wanted tosee where he could go.
Because then he says hisfavorite is Rick Astley, and
(20:18):
that when he hears Rick Astleyon the radio, he calls his
mother up to say their song isplaying.
And he says he never misses it.
He always calls his mother tosay, never gonna give you up,
never gonna let you down.
SPEAKER_02 (20:33):
All right, he's he's Rick rolling his mom.
SPEAKER_04 (20:39):
I guess so.
I guess so.
The things you learn aboutpeople just from wearing a Paul
McCartney concert t-shirt, nevergonna say goodbye, never gonna
tell a lie, and hurt you.
Fifty years ago on November10th, 1975, the SS Edmund
(21:03):
Fitzgerald sank in Lake Superiorduring a storm.
Twenty-nine crew membersperished, and I'd say most
people know of the ship from the1976.
SPEAKER_02 (21:14):
Gordon Lightfoot song.
SPEAKER_04 (21:16):
Correct.
That's how I know.
I mean, really, that'severything I know about it was
really through that song.
It actually reached number two,November 20th, 1976, on
Billboard Hot 100.
Keeping it on people's minds,not just the song, but there
was, you know, a lot about howthis boat just all of a sudden
(21:36):
disappeared and sank, and theydidn't find any of the people,
the 29 people, they didn't findanything.
They barely found anythinginitially from the ship at all.
And it was kind of a mystery.
But then with the help of ofGordon Lightfoot's song, they
were able to put in all kinds ofsafety regulations that they had
(21:58):
not had before.
And it really changed the waythat shipping was done on the
Great Lakes.
Because it was uh Lake Superior,I believe, is where the ship
went down.
So before the Edmund Fitzgeraldsank, if you go back about a
hundred and sixty years, in theparticular area that it sank,
(22:23):
almost two hundred and fiftyships had sunk.
Since they put in those safetyregulations in the last fifty
years, zero.
Oh wow.
Zero.
And I think that makes a a huge,huge difference about putting
safety ahead of everything else.
SPEAKER_02 (22:40):
Aaron Ross Powell It's amazing that many people
died, you know, you would thinkthat you would have uh lifeboats
and life preservers and things.
SPEAKER_04 (22:47):
Aaron Powell Yeah, they didn't have all of the
things that they have today thatare required.
You know, like today you have tohave the safety vest, the life
vest that has the lights or themakes the sounds.
They didn't have that.
That wasn't something theyneeded to do at the time.
And it's just amazing how oneevent and you know, coupled with
(23:08):
a song, I'm not saying that thesong did it all, but it's so
many people knew about itbecause of the song, what you
know, the changes in life thatit could actually make.
Jimmy, let's change gears alittle bit.
I mean, honestly, I think that'sa r uh, you know, an important
story for people that withsafety, and it's really cool
(23:28):
that music was part of it.
And, you know, unfortunately, 29people perished, but a lot of
people's lives have been saved.
SPEAKER_02 (23:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (23:37):
So let's change up a little bit with tick-tick-tick.
It's Minute with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_03 (23:42):
It's time for a minute with Jimmy, Minute with
Jimmy, Minute with Jimmy.
It's time for a minute withJimmy, Minute with Jimmy, Minute
with Jimmy.
SPEAKER_02 (23:51):
Well, Jim, I found a loophole in the Minute with
Jimmy bylaws.
I've read the terms andconditions, and it doesn't say
that I have to talk about music.
So today I'm talking about theGeorgia Bulldogs versus Texas
Longhorns football game that Iwent to over the weekend.
I had the greatest time.
Athens, Georgia is one of thebest towns in the world, the
(24:11):
greatest college town in theworld, and went up there uh with
a good friend that came in fromout of town.
And he is one of these guysthat, you know, he's done well
in business and he has peoplethat get him tickets to things,
which is really nice.
And he shares with his friends.
Well, he this to this game, hegot field passes to go on the
field and be on the sideline ofthe Georgia, Texas football
(24:33):
game.
SPEAKER_04 (24:34):
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (24:34):
We actually had passes just to be there until
kickoff, but we kind ofoverstayed our welcome and
stayed for the first like five,10 minutes of the game.
But yeah, we got pictures withthe mascots and you know, the
actual Ugga, the live dog outthere.
We got a picture with him in hisdoghouse, and uh it was it was a
blast.
So go dogs.
SPEAKER_04 (24:55):
That was really good timing there, Jimmy.
SPEAKER_02 (24:57):
I'm telling you, I'm good at it.
SPEAKER_04 (24:58):
You are.
No, that's a really cool story.
So you probably don't knowbecause we don't talk a ton
about sports.
Every once in a while I'll s putsomething out there.
But correct me if I'm wrong,Jimmy.
You went out to Texas last year.
That's right.
What what city do they play in?
Austin.
Austin.
You went to Austin, Texas lastyear to try and go to the game,
(25:19):
but the ticket prices were soexpensive you couldn't go.
SPEAKER_02 (25:22):
Yeah.
It went up uh on game day, whichis usually when I buy tickets
because that's when prices godown a little bit.
It went up to a thousand dollarsjust to get in the stadium at in
Austin last year.
SPEAKER_04 (25:33):
Oh my lord.
So this year you're able to gobecause a friend comes into town
that's got business connections,and not only do you get to watch
the game, you get to meet Ugga,the dog, the bulldog the live
bulldog.
No, you didn't.
Yeah.
Did you really?
SPEAKER_02 (25:51):
He walked right past us.
SPEAKER_04 (25:52):
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (25:52):
Was he wearing the He was wearing his uh his ratty
coat, man.
That coat, that's like a gottabe his favorite coat that he's
had forever because it's gotholes and worn spots and things
on it.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (26:05):
TV must do something with it.
You know how they say TV adds 10pounds?
TV must make it look good orsomething.
SPEAKER_02 (26:11):
I it does because I had no idea that it was it was
that worn.
How tall is he?
Oh gosh, I don't know.
I mean, I would I would guessprobably 5'11, something like
that.
SPEAKER_04 (26:20):
Yeah, all right.
I only asked since you saw himlive.
That's I would never ask thatquestion, but I was just
wondering.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (26:28):
Now I have a friend that met Sylvester Stallone, and
he said Sylvester Stallone is isa lot shorter than a lot of
people would picture.
SPEAKER_04 (26:35):
Yes, I've heard that also.
Yeah.
I know someone that did some uhacting in a movie with him and
said he was much shorter thanwhat you would think.
SPEAKER_02 (26:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (26:43):
Well, I like that minute with Jimmy.
That was pretty cool.
And by the way, if I'm notmistaken, Georgia won.
SPEAKER_02 (26:51):
Big.
Yeah.
Yeah, 35 to 10.
SPEAKER_04 (26:54):
Woo! My name is Jimmy.
Well, I'm not trying to do anonside kick, but let's revisit
some more music in my shoes.
Nice.
Casey and the Sunshine Band,That's the Way I Like It, peaked
at number one on Billboard Hot100, November 22nd, 1975.
That's the way, uh-huh, uh-huh.
(27:15):
I like doing it my way, sayingit like that.
Yeah.
That reminds me of a song um byTrio.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
And what you do and what youwon't.
Uh-huh.
Da-da-da.
Da-da-da.
Yeah.
So when I say uh-huh, eventhough that's not the way they
necessarily say it, and that'sthe way I like it, I always
think of that other song.
(27:35):
That's just how my head goes.
I'm just thinking a millionthings.
But, you know, I gotta be honestwith you.
I like Casey and the SunshineBand.
We had uh listener Barry, whohad written in to us at one
point saying that he did notthink that Casey and the
Sunshine Band was a disco band,and that when someone said it
(27:55):
was, that it really hurt hisfeelings, and he was like, no,
they're not.
No, that, you know.
And and KC, um, he he said thatwe're like a funk band.
We're, you know, we're a partyband and stuff.
But I do like Casey and theSunshine Band.
I like almost all their songs.
They're fun.
They're fun.
And if you were at an event, awedding, or school dance or
(28:18):
whatever it might be, when oneof the KC and the Sunshine Band
songs came on, everybody seemedto get up.
Everybody knew it, everybodywanted to be part of it.
SPEAKER_02 (28:26):
Yeah, everyone wants to disco dance to KC and the
Sunshine Band.
All right.
So anyway, moving on.
SPEAKER_04 (28:33):
Let's move on to Echo and the Bunnymen bring on
the Dancing Horses, which couldnot be any different than KC and
the Sunshine Band.
It was the WLIR Screamer of theWeek, the fourth week of October
1985.
Bring on the Dancing Horses,Headless and All Alone.
Shiver and say the words ofevery lie you've heard.
(28:56):
It's recorded for the 86 filmPretty in Pink.
It's a fantastic song.
And it's not like many songs onsoundtracks at the time.
You know, soundtracks started tobecome a whole different animal.
But when you look at soundtracksin the 80s, you know, there were
some soundtracks.
You're like, I don't know asingle one of those songs.
They just hired some band, youknow, to just do some
(29:20):
synthesizer or this.
And but this was like, wow, thisis a great song.
How is this on, you know, uh asoundtrack?
It came out before the moviecame out.
Movie came out in 86, I believeit was.
You know, John Hughes film, andhe kind of just was the guy that
started to use songs to getpeople to want to go to the
(29:43):
films and kind of associatesongs with films, teenage films.
He he did a really good job withit.
SPEAKER_02 (29:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (29:51):
The cure push, WLIR Screamer of the Week, the
following week, fifth week ofOctober nineteen eighty five.
I know.
I've talked about this before.
I think you might have broughtthe album up head on the door at
one point too, Jimmy.
Yep.
A four and a half minute song,and the intro is about two
minutes and twenty-three,twenty-four seconds.
(30:12):
All right.
And I absolutely love that.
I was like, man, this is just socool.
Taking a pop song, you know,it's alternative, but still
still to me, it was kind ofpoppy, being able to do just
different things than what a popsong would be like.
And that really drew me into thecure.
I'd been listening to them foryears, but I really did like
this phase of them.
(30:32):
Can't say enough about thealbum, head on the door, like I
just said.
Oingo Boingo Stay, W-L-I-R,Screamer of the Week, second
week of November 1985.
This is my favorite Oingo Boingosong.
A serious song compared to WeirdScience, Dead Man's Party, and
it's, you know, kind of likeabout a breakup happening.
(30:56):
Super serious.
I absolutely love it.
This is not the first time youtried to get away.
This is not a party where peopleknow your name.
Go.
Don't you go?
Won't you stay with me one moreday?
Love that song.
Love it.
Big Audio Dynamite.
E equals MC Squared, WLIR Screamof the Week, third week of
(31:21):
November 1985.
Back on episode 99, we spokeabout Mick Jones not being in
the clash.
The clash releases a song, Thisis England.
You like the album a little bitmore than what I did.
The album was called Cut theCrap.
SPEAKER_02 (31:36):
I mean, I I liked the songs on it.
I thought the production on thealbum was incredibly bad.
SPEAKER_04 (31:43):
Yes.
Here is Mick Jones, who waskicked out of the band, This Is
His Response.
And it is just fantastic.
They have this album come out,debut album by Big Audio
Dynamite called This Is BigAudio Dynamite.
And it couldn't be more of adifferent sound than what the
(32:04):
classroom was.
SPEAKER_02 (32:05):
I know I was going to say the same thing.
Like how many people can be inan iconic band like that and
then just kind of throw it allto the side and say, I'm doing
something completely different.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_04 (32:15):
Completely.
So different, with lots ofsamples, you know, sampling
different songs or movies,voiceovers from movies.
It just was super cool the waythat they did everything, and
everything seemed to go, youknow, it just seemed to make
sense in what they were doing.
This was not the clash for sure,but I liked it.
(32:37):
I really did like it.
I went back and I listened tothe album uh a couple of weeks
ago.
Because again, I've talked aboutthis before.
I try and do that when I haven'tlistened to something recently.
What do I think about it now?
And it still sounds good.
It really does, yeah.
You know?
No in your face guitar andvocals, but more like a
(32:57):
pop-oriented, synthesized dancemusic, and I couldn't get enough
of it.
I've seen Big Audio Dynama, Ithink two times, maybe three
times.
Definitely great shows.
It was a lot of fun.
Uh first single was bottom line.
I'm surprised this wasn't ascreamer.
This was a really good song.
(33:18):
The horses are on the track.
And I just like I remember whenthe song came out, and people
would ask me a question, I'd belike, The horses are on the
track.
And people would be like, Whatare you talking about?
The medicine show video actuallyhad clash members Joe Strummer
and Paul Simonen playing policeofficers, and Johnny Rotten of
(33:40):
the Sex Pistols makes anappearance in the actual video.
That's great.
Again, it's not the clash, butit's fun to listen to.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02 (33:49):
And it shows you that they still, you know, loved
each other, even though they theband broke up, it they were
still friends.
SPEAKER_04 (33:55):
Aaron Powell Yes.
And I think about this pointthat they realized they didn't
break up because then they brokeup because their manager was,
you know, making them go againsteach other, and they realized
what the truth was.
But at this point, they hadalready kind of committed to
what their new projects were.
One being cut the crap for theclash, the other being this is
big audio dynamite.
SPEAKER_02 (34:16):
And then Joe did some really great stuff after
that as well.
Oh, yeah.
Like the Mascaleros and the solostuff.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (34:21):
Yeah.
Fantastic stuff.
And then had Mick join him atone show that was fantastic in
England.
I think it was for like abenefit for the firefighters or
something.
So often mentioned as the worstsong ever, and I am in that
camp.
We built the city by Starship,reached number one on Billboard,
(34:43):
Hot 100, November 16th, 1985.
Now, it is also one of the worstnights of my life for not
feeling the best.
We talked about that on the lastepisode.
SPEAKER_02 (34:57):
They're rubbing it in.
SPEAKER_04 (34:58):
I don't know if it has anything to do with each
other.
But this was, I was working in aplace.
I've I I mentioned this likewhen probably when we first
started the show, or no,actually earlier this year.
And I was working at a placewhere they piped in the music.
You had to listen to whateversomeone in the office had.
(35:19):
And we would listen to top 40,and this song was on all the
time.
And it almost sounds likethere's no instruments.
There's a guitar solo.
It sounds like everything isjust electronic, but just not
good electronic.
I mean, just terrible.
(35:40):
Like they got like a toy almost.
Yes, like a toy, you know?
SPEAKER_02 (35:45):
And it is Did the kid press that button again?
SPEAKER_04 (35:48):
So today I listened to the song twice.
Just to say, let me see.
Because I get a lot of ofgarbage from people, like, hey,
how can you say that about thatsong?
That's a really good song.
And I know I'm gonna hear aboutit now.
It is still one of the worstsongs, if it's not the worst
song.
It's number one.
All right.
(36:08):
It really still is.
Marconi plays the Mamba, listento the radio.
Don't you remember?
We built this city.
We built this city on rock androll.
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (36:24):
Marconi was the creator of radio.
So they're saying that he'splaying the Mamba.
Listen to the radio.
It's just it's a bad, it's a badline.
SPEAKER_04 (36:35):
Well, Jimmy, I don't think I can take any more.
Unfortunately, that's it forepisode 106 of Music in My
Shoes.
I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie,show producer and owner of
Arcade 160 Studios, occasionalMamba player, located here in
Atlanta, Georgia, and Vic Thrillfor our podcast music.
(36:56):
This is Jim Bog, and I hope youlearned something new or
remembered something old.
We'll meet again on our nextepisode.
Until then, live life and keepthe music playing.
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