March 31, 2025 • 18 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I'm buzz Night, the host of the Taking a Walk podcast,
and welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
To another look at this week in music history.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And we turned to the music history desk too, Musician,
music fan, media executive, podcaster and purveyor of all things music,
Harry Jacobs.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome, Welcome back. I'm I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
If Corey Feldman can be considered a musician, so can I.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I live in that world. I'm a musician too.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Damn it than you. That's so funny. I could just
see him, I could see I could see both Corey's.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, yeah, and Corey listen. Corey Feldman. Uh, you know
he takes a lot of grief. I know he's been
on the podcast, I know you've had him here. But
but that guy gets butchered online and he continues to
do it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
He gives zero.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
F's as they say, this is true, this is true.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Good.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Good for him.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yep, good for him. So what do you have for
the week of March thirty first?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Well, April first, this is a big day.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
One of my favorite albums of all time was Pet
Sounds by the Beach Boys, and that session began in
gold Star Studios in nineteen sixty six, on April first.
When you look at the track list on that, certainly
two or three of my favorite Beach Boys songs. Think
about slip John b Is on that wouldn't it be nice?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Is there? And God only knows, think about how powerful
those songs are.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
They are powerful.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Now, I'm gonna put myself in the category.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I don't know if you were, but I was the
Beatles person first, and then you know, in discovering Pet
Sounds and all the hoopla about it, I wasn't there
at the beginning, but over time, I definitely appreciate those
songs and certainly more of the work of the Beach Boys.
(01:59):
And you can't deny that, you know, there was competition
between the Beatles and the Beach Boys, right.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, And I know you don't like to be you know,
have me throw the age thing out there between us,
because there's you know, there's a slight age difference between
you and I older brother, younger brother kind of thing. Yeah.
But my actually, my parents, my mother in particular was
a really big Beach Boys fan, so I got more
exposure to the Beach Boys from her.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
My father was the Beatles fan.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It was an interesting, you know, household to grow up.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
But I I.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
When I was a kid, I favored the Beach Boys
because I was closer to my mom, so I really
got an appreciation and and that at that time, you know,
that was post surf in the USA and Barbara.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Ann and and all that. That music for them changed.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You know, they went through that same kind of evolution
that the Beatles did that led them into Sergeant Pepper's
and you know, things that just you know that the
music evolved over time, as it does for for everybody.
But you know, I favored the Beach Boys at that time,
and then really got into the Beatles after that, and
(03:09):
especially around the time you and I started working together
in the mid nineties, I really because you were such
a Beatles nut that, you know, I really got into
it and spent more time with the Beatles at that point.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But when I was programming in Columbus, we took the
morning show there it was John Fisher and Daddy Wegg's
to the Grammys and we would do broadcasts from New
York or LA, you know, where the Grammys were at
that particular year.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And one of the guests that.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Came on one.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Year Ryan Wilson.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh, and it was sad, I have to tell you,
because he was just emerging from that one of many
very dark periods in his life, and doing press at
that point seemed like, you know, he'd rather have all
his teeth pulled than than be there.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So he wasn't very talkative, and he had a terrible cough.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I remember, and it was it was a sad, you know,
guest booking for such a legendary, you know, person in
music music history.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I do remember it as sad.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
He was a you know, a tortured, torture guy. Did
you see Love and Mercy where John Cusack played Brian Wilson. No,
I would put that on on your list of things
to watch. John Cusack did an amazing job, and there's
really incredible insight into the pain that that Brian went through.
(04:46):
You know, much like the Jackson family, you know, where Joe,
you know, it's just a legendarily a brutal guy.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Brian Wilson's father was.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It wasn't ass I mean, you know, just an abusive,
horrible human being. And and you know, you get to
a better understanding of how someone can, you know, become
such an introverted guy for someone who Brian, who's so
extroverted with his music.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
He didn't want to go on the road, right, He
didn't want to be in front of an audience.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
He he wanted to send you know, Mike and Carl
everyone else on the road and say come back when
the tour is done, and I'll have some more music
for us to record, and we'll and we'll keep that
cycle going. He he wanted it, but he didn't want it.
And it's easy to see to me, as someone who,
for better or worse, has become a little bit more
(05:36):
of a student of psychology in the last few years,
how he could have become, you know, this introvert, a
guy who started it all to be the ultimate extrovert,
you know, being on stage. So that love and mercy.
I would absolutely put that on your list. It's a
heartbreaking movie in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So I love I love junk USEX, so I'll check
it out for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
April second, it's an interesting day.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
It was the day that Marvin Gay was shot by
his father, and it was also the day before the
third is his birthday, which is you know, a crazy,
you know, sad sequence of events, haunting.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It takes two and ain't no Mountain high enough.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I mean, this is the stuff that he was a
participant in the Motown are era.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
To me, was just magnificent.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I always loved Marvin.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Gay totally same here. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
The Rolling Stones released Brown Sugar on April third, Marvin
Gaye's birthday in nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Legendary track. Oh yeah, very open to that track.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Oh yeah, you know another great Keith Lick, A great
driving song.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I always I equate being in the car with certain
things you love, just cranking up in a particular moment.
And that's one of those many Stone songs that are
just great driving songs, you know, Dance Little Sister, and
and give Me Shelter and can't you hear Me Knocking?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
And when you start really digging down deep and you
go through the Stones song list to make yourself a
playlist to take a ride, oh yeah, there's some great
there's some great bitch, there's some great driving songs. Absolutely
Breakfast in America, the Super Tramp album was released on
this day, another one with a ton of great tracks.
(07:27):
We when we were at w ZX and Boston, there
was a picture in the conference room of the cover
of Breakfast in America.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Do you remember that there was a giant poster.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I didn't have this. It was it was the post.
It was the.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Picture that they used without the super Tramp logo.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I think super Tramp particularly that that album, uh greatly underrated,
that that was a mega album album rock times and
you know every song on that album really great.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Underappreciated band.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I think songs on that album got big rock radio play.
Logical song take the Long Way Home and Goodbye Stranger.
Goodbye Stranger was fun. Oh yeah, that was a cool
little bitty That's another one. I have a playlist Supertramped playlist.
You know, Bloody Well right, and school and Dreamer, Yeah,
(08:23):
you know, fantastic So I love them.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And Roger Hudson, right, yeah, Roger Hudson, Yeah, they kind
of faded away. They just I don't really recall how
the fade happened, but it just the band kind of
faded away.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
He I think, you know, he left and it was
had a dream and I don't know if he ever
you know, after that, if they had ever ended up
back together. But that's a reunion tour, I would, you know,
I'd buy tickets to go see Supertramp. Here's enough of
those songs that I would you know, I appreciate yep
for sure. April fifth, nineteen ninety four. Kobay took his
(09:01):
own life, changing the course of.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Rock music right to this day because I often think
about the early two gone too early passing of people
like him, and I often think, what would he be
doing now? You know, what would his musical direction be,
would he have a musical direction?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
What do you think? It's an interesting game to play.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I just saw Dan Aykroyd go through this exercise talking
about John Beluscy saying, you know, John would be a
great theater director at this point, and you know, with Kurt,
you know, I got to believe he is probably someone
who would have imploded in frustration at the state of
where music is now. I think he would have been
become a little bit of a recluse, you know, at
(09:51):
this point in time. I think the change in what
happened with radio. Remember he died in nineteen ninety four.
This was before or where just a handful of companies,
you know, at the very beginning ended up gobbling everything up.
That also changed music, right Napster, think about you know
where this was Napster kind of you know, after that,
(10:12):
and then that's where things started to fall apart for
artists in terms of.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Getting paid to do what they do.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I'm sorry you asked a simple question and I took
a deep dive, but I think there are multiple factors
that would have influenced where he is now, and I
think it would have you know, it would have pissed
him off. What what's happened to what he started to
do for his passion ended up getting ruined by corporate America.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
In a lot of ways. You brought it around full circle.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And as we're having this conversation, the news just came
out about Napster being sold for.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Two hundred and seven million dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Which I think probably would have made Kurt Cobain. I
rate watching that appen.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Going what you know, I think he would have he
would not have responded well to it. I don't think I.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Know you're an Apple Music user because we share some
a couple.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Of playlists, but you know you can't add your own music.
You can add your own music to Apple iTunes, but
it won't allow it to sync up to your phone,
so they won't let you play it. So I had
this library of thousands and thousands of songs that I
had download, maybe some from Napster. But you know, Bruce
(11:28):
Springsteen down, you know bootlegs and other stuff that I
collected over the years.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You can't do any that's all bunk.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Now you need a third party application to put your
own music on your phone.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Now, I didn't realize that I have an app.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I have an app that will allow me to take
some of the Springsteen bootlegs that, by the way, that
I bought from Springsteen right, I bought from Bruce Springsteen
dot com. But you can't add them to your iTunes.
The only thing you can do with your iTunes is
add Apple iTunes music. It's crazy, how the how they've
tightened down. It is crazy. So Pink Floyd began recording
(12:05):
Dark Side of the Moon in nineteen seventy three at
Abbey Road Studios. We've talked a lot in recent weeks
about Floyd for one reason or another, but this is
when they started recording Dark Side of the Moon.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
And you spoke with Alan Parsons about Dark Side of
the Moon, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I did. I was in Rochester, New York. I can
tell you when it was.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
It was July fourth, nineteen ninety six, an awful rainy
day in Rochester, New York, and whoever was doing mid
days that you know it couldn't work that day. I
filled in on a holiday and it was one of
those things. Hey, you know, you got an interview with
Alan Parsons. Do you want to do it or you
want to push it off? And I said I'll do it.
(12:47):
And that was at the time, right after George Taylor Morris,
who we were working with in Boston, had discovered the
Wizard of Oz and Darkseide and I thought, I'm going
to ask him about this, and he I felt bad
because it kind of I don't know if it made
me look dumb or it made him look dumb.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
But I said, talk to me about what's going on
now with this.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
You know Wizard of Oz appearing like the soundtrack if
you you know, if you start the Dark Side of
the Moon CD at the roar of the third Roar
of the Lion, it appears to synchronize as a soundtrack
for Wizard of Oz. And he said, I have no
idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I have no idea, And.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I thought, okay, next question, let's talk about wouldn't want
to be like you. I explained a little bit of
it to him, but he just he didn't know anything
about it, claimed to play dumb dude.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
What do you think do you think that this was true?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Do you think he didn't feel authorized to talk about it,
or do you think what do you really think when
you think about it in retrospect, I.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Think that there was so much in the way of
drugs and nonsense happening in that Pink Floyd circle at
that time that it wouldn't surprise me to know that
they were fans of the Wizard of Oz and may
have looked at that. On one hand, the conspiracy guy
in me says, oh, yeah, they definitely had that on
while they were you know, they were doing it was
(14:14):
like scoring, you know, like John Williams scoring Jaws.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
But the other side of me thinks it just it
just happened.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
But there are things like, you know, balanced on the
Biggest Wave and maybe in time where Dorothy is on
the fence on the fence post trying to catch her balance,
and the great Gig in the sky.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
You asked about this during one of our discussions about that.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
When the house is spinning around and that screaming, you know,
vocal is going on. That's when the house is being
lifted off in Dorothy's dream and spinning around, and she
lands in Oz and it literally as the Great gig
ends and fades out, the house lands in the land
of Oz.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
There are just too many things. I gotta do it again.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I got to go and now with you know where
we are, you can do it and sit and watch
it on you know, on YouTube in your living room.
A lot of coincidences, I don't know. I'm trying to
not be a conspiracy theory guy and say that's just
the way it happened.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I'm gonna go with they were influenced by it.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
They were doing something extracurricular, including watching it and recording and.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So I'm going to go with the in between theory,
which is maybe it wasn't completely an intentional act, but
it certainly had some intention and influence that occurred and
created at least some of those moments that you just described,
because that one that you described there is too perfect
(15:56):
to have not had some planned attack, if you will, well.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
There are ten or twelve of those. Bus I mean,
it's just you know, I don't smoke pot anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But if I were to smoke pot and I had,
like you could smoke pot with one person in the world.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Who would it be. It would be David Gilmour and we'd.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Be in my living room smoking a blunt, watching Wizard
of Oz, listening to the Dark Side of the Moon.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
That would be my to say, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Hey, maybe that should be my opening question now from
instead of who would you take a walk with?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
No, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Kidding, what would you smoke? Well, listen, it's legal everywhere
we are. It's legal where you are, it's legal. I
got a wheat store I can walk to down the street.
I don't use it, but yeah, all right, at any rate.
Nineteen seventy three, they began recording Dark Side of the Moon.
The Twilight Zone premiere in nineteen sixty four. Little pop
culture here as we wrap things up. But it's a
(16:48):
pretty great show. Oh yeah, even still, Yeah, did you
see the movie? Oh yeah, someone died on that movie, right,
helicopter pilot or if there was some sort of accident.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I think Vic Morrow died. That's right, that's yeah, right,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I love the opening too with Albert Brooks with the
Midnight Special when he turns the lights off and they're
driving down the road.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I got to go.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Back and want I can't remember that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I got to go back and watch that. It's great. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
On April fifth, nineteen thirty nine, speaking of dark Side
and Wizard, the Wizard of Oz premiered at the Radio
City Music Hall April fifth, nineteen thirty nine. One of
my you know, dark Side's one of my favorite albums,
but Wizard of Oz. I think if you were to
ask for my top five movies, Wizard's always one or
two minus those Flying Monkeys.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I just love that movie for some reason. But those
always just completely fucked.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
With my head. Brilliant Flying Monkeys. Oh yeah, totally brilliant.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
That's a pretty active week the week of March thirty. First,
thank you Harry Jacobs and the Music History Desk for
all of that work, and it's great having you back
on and thanks for listening to the Taking a Walk podcast.
Check us out on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts.
I'm buzz Night, the host of the Taking a Walk podcast,
and welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
To another look at this week in music history.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And we turned to the music history desk too, Musician,
music fan, media executive, podcaster and purveyor of all things music,
Harry Jacobs.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome, Welcome back. I'm I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
If Corey Feldman can be considered a musician, so can I.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I live in that world. I'm a musician too.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Damn it than you. That's so funny. I could just
see him, I could see I could see both Corey's.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, yeah, and Corey listen. Corey Feldman. Uh, you know
he takes a lot of grief. I know he's been
on the podcast, I know you've had him here. But
but that guy gets butchered online and he continues to
do it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
He gives zero.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
F's as they say, this is true, this is true.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Good.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Good for him.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yep, good for him. So what do you have for
the week of March thirty first?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Well, April first, this is a big day.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
One of my favorite albums of all time was Pet
Sounds by the Beach Boys, and that session began in
gold Star Studios in nineteen sixty six, on April first.
When you look at the track list on that, certainly
two or three of my favorite Beach Boys songs. Think
about slip John b Is on that wouldn't it be nice?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Is there? And God only knows, think about how powerful
those songs are.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
They are powerful.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Now, I'm gonna put myself in the category.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I don't know if you were, but I was the
Beatles person first, and then you know, in discovering Pet
Sounds and all the hoopla about it, I wasn't there
at the beginning, but over time, I definitely appreciate those
songs and certainly more of the work of the Beach Boys.
(01:59):
And you can't deny that, you know, there was competition
between the Beatles and the Beach Boys, right.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, And I know you don't like to be you know,
have me throw the age thing out there between us,
because there's you know, there's a slight age difference between
you and I older brother, younger brother kind of thing. Yeah.
But my actually, my parents, my mother in particular was
a really big Beach Boys fan, so I got more
exposure to the Beach Boys from her.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
My father was the Beatles fan.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It was an interesting, you know, household to grow up.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
But I I.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
When I was a kid, I favored the Beach Boys
because I was closer to my mom, so I really
got an appreciation and and that at that time, you know,
that was post surf in the USA and Barbara.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Ann and and all that. That music for them changed.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You know, they went through that same kind of evolution
that the Beatles did that led them into Sergeant Pepper's
and you know, things that just you know that the
music evolved over time, as it does for for everybody.
But you know, I favored the Beach Boys at that time,
and then really got into the Beatles after that, and
(03:09):
especially around the time you and I started working together
in the mid nineties, I really because you were such
a Beatles nut that, you know, I really got into
it and spent more time with the Beatles at that point.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But when I was programming in Columbus, we took the
morning show there it was John Fisher and Daddy Wegg's
to the Grammys and we would do broadcasts from New
York or LA, you know, where the Grammys were at
that particular year.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And one of the guests that.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Came on one.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Year Ryan Wilson.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh, and it was sad, I have to tell you,
because he was just emerging from that one of many
very dark periods in his life, and doing press at
that point seemed like, you know, he'd rather have all
his teeth pulled than than be there.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So he wasn't very talkative, and he had a terrible cough.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I remember, and it was it was a sad, you know,
guest booking for such a legendary, you know, person in
music music history.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I do remember it as sad.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
He was a you know, a tortured, torture guy. Did
you see Love and Mercy where John Cusack played Brian Wilson. No,
I would put that on on your list of things
to watch. John Cusack did an amazing job, and there's
really incredible insight into the pain that that Brian went through.
(04:46):
You know, much like the Jackson family, you know, where Joe,
you know, it's just a legendarily a brutal guy.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Brian Wilson's father was.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It wasn't ass I mean, you know, just an abusive,
horrible human being. And and you know, you get to
a better understanding of how someone can, you know, become
such an introverted guy for someone who Brian, who's so
extroverted with his music.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
He didn't want to go on the road, right, He
didn't want to be in front of an audience.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
He he wanted to send you know, Mike and Carl
everyone else on the road and say come back when
the tour is done, and I'll have some more music
for us to record, and we'll and we'll keep that
cycle going. He he wanted it, but he didn't want it.
And it's easy to see to me, as someone who,
for better or worse, has become a little bit more
(05:36):
of a student of psychology in the last few years,
how he could have become, you know, this introvert, a
guy who started it all to be the ultimate extrovert,
you know, being on stage. So that love and mercy.
I would absolutely put that on your list. It's a
heartbreaking movie in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So I love I love junk USEX, so I'll check
it out for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
April second, it's an interesting day.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
It was the day that Marvin Gay was shot by
his father, and it was also the day before the
third is his birthday, which is you know, a crazy,
you know, sad sequence of events, haunting.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It takes two and ain't no Mountain high enough.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I mean, this is the stuff that he was a
participant in the Motown are era.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
To me, was just magnificent.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I always loved Marvin.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Gay totally same here. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
The Rolling Stones released Brown Sugar on April third, Marvin
Gaye's birthday in nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Legendary track. Oh yeah, very open to that track.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Oh yeah, you know another great Keith Lick, A great
driving song.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I always I equate being in the car with certain
things you love, just cranking up in a particular moment.
And that's one of those many Stone songs that are
just great driving songs, you know, Dance Little Sister, and
and give Me Shelter and can't you hear Me Knocking?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
And when you start really digging down deep and you
go through the Stones song list to make yourself a
playlist to take a ride, oh yeah, there's some great
there's some great bitch, there's some great driving songs. Absolutely
Breakfast in America, the Super Tramp album was released on
this day, another one with a ton of great tracks.
(07:27):
We when we were at w ZX and Boston, there
was a picture in the conference room of the cover
of Breakfast in America.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Do you remember that there was a giant poster.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I didn't have this. It was it was the post.
It was the.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Picture that they used without the super Tramp logo.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I think super Tramp particularly that that album, uh greatly underrated,
that that was a mega album album rock times and
you know every song on that album really great.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Underappreciated band.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I think songs on that album got big rock radio play.
Logical song take the Long Way Home and Goodbye Stranger.
Goodbye Stranger was fun. Oh yeah, that was a cool
little bitty That's another one. I have a playlist Supertramped playlist.
You know, Bloody Well right, and school and Dreamer, Yeah,
(08:23):
you know, fantastic So I love them.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And Roger Hudson, right, yeah, Roger Hudson, Yeah, they kind
of faded away. They just I don't really recall how
the fade happened, but it just the band kind of
faded away.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
He I think, you know, he left and it was
had a dream and I don't know if he ever
you know, after that, if they had ever ended up
back together. But that's a reunion tour, I would, you know,
I'd buy tickets to go see Supertramp. Here's enough of
those songs that I would you know, I appreciate yep
for sure. April fifth, nineteen ninety four. Kobay took his
(09:01):
own life, changing the course of.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Rock music right to this day because I often think
about the early two gone too early passing of people
like him, and I often think, what would he be
doing now? You know, what would his musical direction be,
would he have a musical direction?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
What do you think? It's an interesting game to play.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I just saw Dan Aykroyd go through this exercise talking
about John Beluscy saying, you know, John would be a
great theater director at this point, and you know, with Kurt,
you know, I got to believe he is probably someone
who would have imploded in frustration at the state of
where music is now. I think he would have been
become a little bit of a recluse, you know, at
(09:51):
this point in time. I think the change in what
happened with radio. Remember he died in nineteen ninety four.
This was before or where just a handful of companies,
you know, at the very beginning ended up gobbling everything up.
That also changed music, right Napster, think about you know
where this was Napster kind of you know, after that,
(10:12):
and then that's where things started to fall apart for
artists in terms of.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Getting paid to do what they do.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I'm sorry you asked a simple question and I took
a deep dive, but I think there are multiple factors
that would have influenced where he is now, and I
think it would have you know, it would have pissed
him off. What what's happened to what he started to
do for his passion ended up getting ruined by corporate America.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
In a lot of ways. You brought it around full circle.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And as we're having this conversation, the news just came
out about Napster being sold for.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Two hundred and seven million dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Which I think probably would have made Kurt Cobain. I
rate watching that appen.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Going what you know, I think he would have he
would not have responded well to it. I don't think I.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Know you're an Apple Music user because we share some
a couple.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Of playlists, but you know you can't add your own music.
You can add your own music to Apple iTunes, but
it won't allow it to sync up to your phone,
so they won't let you play it. So I had
this library of thousands and thousands of songs that I
had download, maybe some from Napster. But you know, Bruce
(11:28):
Springsteen down, you know bootlegs and other stuff that I
collected over the years.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You can't do any that's all bunk.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Now you need a third party application to put your
own music on your phone.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Now, I didn't realize that I have an app.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I have an app that will allow me to take
some of the Springsteen bootlegs that, by the way, that
I bought from Springsteen right, I bought from Bruce Springsteen
dot com. But you can't add them to your iTunes.
The only thing you can do with your iTunes is
add Apple iTunes music. It's crazy, how the how they've
tightened down. It is crazy. So Pink Floyd began recording
(12:05):
Dark Side of the Moon in nineteen seventy three at
Abbey Road Studios. We've talked a lot in recent weeks
about Floyd for one reason or another, but this is
when they started recording Dark Side of the Moon.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
And you spoke with Alan Parsons about Dark Side of
the Moon, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I did. I was in Rochester, New York. I can
tell you when it was.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
It was July fourth, nineteen ninety six, an awful rainy
day in Rochester, New York, and whoever was doing mid
days that you know it couldn't work that day. I
filled in on a holiday and it was one of
those things. Hey, you know, you got an interview with
Alan Parsons. Do you want to do it or you
want to push it off? And I said I'll do it.
(12:47):
And that was at the time, right after George Taylor Morris,
who we were working with in Boston, had discovered the
Wizard of Oz and Darkseide and I thought, I'm going
to ask him about this, and he I felt bad
because it kind of I don't know if it made
me look dumb or it made him look dumb.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
But I said, talk to me about what's going on
now with this.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
You know Wizard of Oz appearing like the soundtrack if
you you know, if you start the Dark Side of
the Moon CD at the roar of the third Roar
of the Lion, it appears to synchronize as a soundtrack
for Wizard of Oz. And he said, I have no
idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I have no idea, And.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I thought, okay, next question, let's talk about wouldn't want
to be like you. I explained a little bit of
it to him, but he just he didn't know anything
about it, claimed to play dumb dude.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
What do you think do you think that this was true?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Do you think he didn't feel authorized to talk about it,
or do you think what do you really think when
you think about it in retrospect, I.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Think that there was so much in the way of
drugs and nonsense happening in that Pink Floyd circle at
that time that it wouldn't surprise me to know that
they were fans of the Wizard of Oz and may
have looked at that. On one hand, the conspiracy guy
in me says, oh, yeah, they definitely had that on
while they were you know, they were doing it was
(14:14):
like scoring, you know, like John Williams scoring Jaws.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
But the other side of me thinks it just it
just happened.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
But there are things like, you know, balanced on the
Biggest Wave and maybe in time where Dorothy is on
the fence on the fence post trying to catch her balance,
and the great Gig in the sky.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
You asked about this during one of our discussions about that.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
When the house is spinning around and that screaming, you know,
vocal is going on. That's when the house is being
lifted off in Dorothy's dream and spinning around, and she
lands in Oz and it literally as the Great gig
ends and fades out, the house lands in the land
of Oz.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
There are just too many things. I gotta do it again.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I got to go and now with you know where
we are, you can do it and sit and watch
it on you know, on YouTube in your living room.
A lot of coincidences, I don't know. I'm trying to
not be a conspiracy theory guy and say that's just
the way it happened.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I'm gonna go with they were influenced by it.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
They were doing something extracurricular, including watching it and recording and.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So I'm going to go with the in between theory,
which is maybe it wasn't completely an intentional act, but
it certainly had some intention and influence that occurred and
created at least some of those moments that you just described,
because that one that you described there is too perfect
(15:56):
to have not had some planned attack, if you will, well.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
There are ten or twelve of those. Bus I mean,
it's just you know, I don't smoke pot anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But if I were to smoke pot and I had,
like you could smoke pot with one person in the world.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Who would it be. It would be David Gilmour and we'd.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Be in my living room smoking a blunt, watching Wizard
of Oz, listening to the Dark Side of the Moon.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
That would be my to say, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Hey, maybe that should be my opening question now from
instead of who would you take a walk with?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
No, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Kidding, what would you smoke? Well, listen, it's legal everywhere
we are. It's legal where you are, it's legal. I
got a wheat store I can walk to down the street.
I don't use it, but yeah, all right, at any rate.
Nineteen seventy three, they began recording Dark Side of the Moon.
The Twilight Zone premiere in nineteen sixty four. Little pop
culture here as we wrap things up. But it's a
(16:48):
pretty great show. Oh yeah, even still, Yeah, did you
see the movie? Oh yeah, someone died on that movie, right,
helicopter pilot or if there was some sort of accident.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I think Vic Morrow died. That's right, that's yeah, right,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I love the opening too with Albert Brooks with the
Midnight Special when he turns the lights off and they're
driving down the road.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I got to go.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Back and want I can't remember that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I got to go back and watch that. It's great. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
On April fifth, nineteen thirty nine, speaking of dark Side
and Wizard, the Wizard of Oz premiered at the Radio
City Music Hall April fifth, nineteen thirty nine. One of
my you know, dark Side's one of my favorite albums,
but Wizard of Oz. I think if you were to
ask for my top five movies, Wizard's always one or
two minus those Flying Monkeys.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I just love that movie for some reason. But those
always just completely fucked.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
With my head. Brilliant Flying Monkeys. Oh yeah, totally brilliant.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
That's a pretty active week the week of March thirty. First,
thank you Harry Jacobs and the Music History Desk for
all of that work, and it's great having you back
on and thanks for listening to the Taking a Walk podcast.
Check us out on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts.
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