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Evan (00:05):
Welcome back to MVPs.
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All right, welcome backeveryone.
I'm Evanan here with mel andwes, and if you're tuning in
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this evening, then you know whatthe deal is.
Tonight we're talking aboutyour worst nightmares, the
man-eating monsters.
So settle into your comfychairs with a nice warm glass of
whiskey, because, whetheryou're ready or not, it's story
time, fuckers so, evan, talk tome, bro, what you got.
Well, I got a couple stories totell you guys about some
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interesting critters in theworld that have allegedly
allegedly killed people and oreaten maimed, you know something
like along those lines.
Wes (01:00):
So I noticed you said world
.
Does that mean we're going totake a trip around the world?
Evan (01:06):
we are, we are so first on
our list is called the beast of
jevedon oh, that's a fancy wordyeah, it's a place in france,
apparently, I don't know I amfamiliar with this, are you?
I am.
Yes, this is a cool story, man.
So the uh, the beast of jevedonis a creature that is allegedly
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responsible for at least 60human deaths during the 1760s in
france.
Some reports put this number atover 100 deaths what oh yeah.
So some of the locals originallybelieved and probably maybe
still do, I don't know that itwas a werewolf or, more
specifically, a sorcerer thatshapeshifted into a
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werewolf-type creature in orderto feed on human flesh.
Mell (01:57):
Another shapeshifter.
Evan (01:58):
Yeah, man, yeah, I thought
it was a werewolf.
Yeah, that's what they thought,or they believed, or maybe
still do, I don't know.
But uh, descriptions of it wereso varied at the time that most
researchers, you know, believethat there had to be at least
two of these creatures, becausethey were getting such wildly
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different descriptions of thisthing, especially on during of
the color of its fur.
Sometimes it was described aslike red with gray patches on it
, or a big gray patch all overit, or to be red with stripes
all over it.
Most of the times it was likered, black and white colors,
though, but it was also said toremind the witnesses that seen
this thing, it was, uh, thatreminded them of like a bear or
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a hyena and a wolf and a panther, like all combined into one,
like all at one time.
Mell (02:49):
How would you?
Evan (02:50):
So many.
Mell (02:51):
How would you even combine
those?
Evan (02:54):
I don't know.
I guess it had like features ofeach of those things you know
all along its body, and somepeople even said it had like
this panther, like tail that wasso strong that it could use it
as a weapon you know that hellyeah that I wouldn't doubt.
Mell (03:10):
Have you guys ever been
hit with like a long dog tail of
like a box?
Wes (03:16):
maybe just a pit bull tail
or a boxer?
Evan (03:18):
yeah, yeah, those things
are devastating yeah, they're
the shin killers for sure.
Mell (03:24):
Oh yeah.
Evan (03:26):
But some people said that
it had cloven hooves on it.
But you know, others say thatthis thing had claws that were
so heavy and thick that it justmerely resembled hooves.
So it's hard to, you know,really pinpoint what this thing
actually looked like.
Mell (03:41):
Did they do any drawings
or anything of it?
Evan (03:43):
I think there are some
drawings out there, yeah, so the
head would be what?
I think the head's more like awolf hyena kind of looking thing
, maybe, with like the body of abear and the tail of a panther.
Yeah, sounds wild.
Mell (03:59):
I'm just saying Because
the feet would be horse hooves
right.
Evan (04:04):
It's either hooves or,
like claws, so thick that they
just were mistaken for hooves.
Wes (04:11):
Is it bipedal?
I mean, who's really likestanding there taking the test?
Sir, can you hold?
Mell (04:16):
on.
Wes (04:16):
I really have to look at
these hooves.
Oh, those are claws.
You're right.
Mell (04:24):
Listen, I don't need.
You're right.
Listen, I don't need your sass,I'm just trying to get a visual
.
Wes (04:31):
That dude's trying not to
die and you're like look at the
hubs.
Can you tell me what its feetlook like?
Mell (04:38):
Well, how long is that
tail?
Wes (04:42):
I don't like you, join my
fan club you may have a sparsely
attended funeral.
Mell (04:51):
Do continue.
Evan (04:53):
So this thing's first
documented kill occurred on June
30th 1764.
When a mostly eaten Like flesheaten off of her 14 year old
shepherdess was discovered inthe woods.
Whatever killed her hadpreferred human flesh to all of
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the lambs and baby lambs thatshe had been herding around.
It just ate her.
None of the lambs.
Oh, they spared the good stuffand just said you know, Just
took the human Damn stuff andjust said you know, just took
the human, damn.
Yeah.
So after that it was like thislong string of these similar
deaths that kept happening allaround the area, and majority of
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the deaths were all women andchildren that's kind of sus,
don't you think?
I mean, yeah, I mean a littlebit, but no, men, no not yeah,
not that I know of, not that thestory goes anyways.
So this beast terrorized thisarea for like three years,
leaving more than 100 peopledead and many more were maimed
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by it.
Wes (05:56):
Ooh, maimed by it.
Oh yeah, so people hadencounters with this, direct
attacked encounters, allegedlysurvived, and that's where we're
getting all these jacked updescriptions.
Uh yeah, that's that's.
Evan (06:11):
That's what I gathered,
yeah interesting it says that
all of the survivors weren'tweren't sure of what sort of
creature had attacked them.
Most of them were reported itto be like, they said, like a
wolf, but not a wolf.
That's literally thedescription they gave.
Okay, after all of this wastaking place, that stories began
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to circulate around that theywere under attack from something
much crazier than just someordinary wolf.
So eventually, during this time, the court of King Louis XV, I
believe, they sent royal huntersout into this area to destroy,
to capture and or kill thisbeast, you know, and the reward
for that beast's head was up tolike, I think at one point it
got up to like 10 000 I don'tknow how you say that word
livers, liveries, I don't know.
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Anyway that it was, you knowwell, worth over like half a
million dollars today, jesus.
Yeah, like it was a big bountyon this thing's head for the
head of a panther wolf.
Wes (07:29):
Yeah, jeez, man, I want to
hunt one right now.
Evan (07:33):
I know, man, you think
that reward is still payable I
don't think so just head on over, man, and put this hunt on so
this bounty, obviously you knowit attracted all kinds of people
from far and wide to come and,you know, get their, put their
hand in and try and hunt downthis beast.
And there were a bunch ofdifferent sightings of it and
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the beast had apparently beenshot on several different
occasions but each time itescaped, you know, unscathed or
wasn't hurt enough to kill it.
The hunters that were out theretaking part in all of this,
they ended up killing lots ofwolves and they even went so far
as using poison to kill, youknow, whole wolf packs at a time
.
Even after killing all of thesewolves in the area, all of the
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beasts' killings continued.
Mell (08:19):
Well, clearly somebody
didn't get the memo that it
looked like a wolf but wasn't awolf.
Wes (08:27):
That's what I'm saying,
that it looked like a wolf but
wasn't a wolf.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like a wolf, you know, butit's, it's not a wolf.
Evan (08:31):
So stop killing the
fucking wolves.
Yeah, so in the the spring of1767 was, you know, the lat?
That was the last year that, uh, these killings were going on.
But at this time, during thespring of 1767, this beast was
eating people on a weekly basis.
At least one person a week wasgetting eaten by this thing.
And so in the summer of 1767,this guy named Jean Chastel he
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was one of the wolf hunters thatwere there and he killed this
large, abnormally large,extremely strange looking wolf.
It wasn't like, it didn't looklike a normal wolf.
Apparently, it had a bunch ofabnormalities all over it and
and it definitely wasn't commonto any of the wolves that they
had in the local region there.
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Allegedly, this guy shot thisanimal with ammunition that he
had melted down from a silvermedal of the Virgin Mary.
There it is yeah, that's, that'swhat I'm saying there.
It is the werewolf story.
Allegedly that's according tothe legend you know.
So who knows if that's actuallytrue or not, but this guy
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really did kill a really big,strange looking wolf, and after
he killed this wolf, thesekillings did stop.
Mell (09:49):
After he killed this big
giant wolf.
Evan (09:51):
After he killed this giant
, you know, deformed looking
panther wolf, yeah.
Wes (09:58):
The were panther wolf.
Mell (10:00):
Panther bear horse wolf.
Wes (10:01):
Yeah, yes, don't forget
about the hooves.
Evan (10:03):
Apparently the wolf that
he killed had this unusual black
and red fur all over it andseveral morphological
differences, like he had realshort front legs on him.
Mell (10:14):
So he was just deformed.
So maybe he was just angrybecause none of the other wolves
wanted to play with him and hefelt like he had something to
prove look, he ain't fucking themurderous rudolph, it ain't.
Wes (10:29):
Yeah, come on, man, I mean
maybe none of the other wolves
wanted to play with him.
You don't know, I don't.
Evan (10:39):
I wasn't there, so the
real shitty part of this whole
story is this guy, jean chastel,didn't receive any of that
reward or reverence for killingthis wolf why, I don't know well
, I'm sure he was a local herothough he was he probably didn't
have to pay at the brothel okay, now fuck the hero
Mell (11:00):
bullshit where's the money
?
Wes (11:02):
that's what I'm saying that
was a lot of cash back then.
That's a good amount of cashright now yeah man absolutely do
you think he kept the wolf?
Do you think he took it to thetaxidermist?
Evan (11:11):
apparently he did.
Apparently they did mount it atthe taxidermist yes, good for
you.
Wes (11:16):
Yeah, see, so he got his
prize.
Man, he's a hunter.
Yeah, he knows why he's outthere.
He's just doing his best.
Yeah, he's doing his job, man.
Evan (11:26):
So you know after he
killed this thing, the attacks
did end and while it was assumedthat this beast that Shastell
did kill was the beast, manydoubts remained that that was
merely just a wolf.
Like, a lot of people doubtedthat it was a wolf that he
actually killed.
They thought it was somethingelse, like locals yeah, all the
locals said that's no wolf,that's a panther wolf.
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Yeah, I don't know what that is, but it ain't no wolf so?
Wes (11:52):
so what do you think?
Do you think it was this crazy?
Uh, you know, jacked up wolf,this dude shot.
Or do you think they were justdealing with a serial killer and
they also had wolves?
Evan (12:03):
that's a really hard.
You know that's a hard thingyou know what I mean I mean,
have you ever heard of a lonewolf killing over a hundred
people over the course of threeyears?
Like that's crazy, dude.
That's a lot of people to bemurdered over three years.
Wes (12:17):
Yeah, but I mean people
would be, you know, relatively
easy prey.
You know, if it was, you know,a solo wolf and he didn't have
the help of the pack and all ofthat, it would be easier to
transition to people and it wasthe 1700s we didn't have modern
weapons and stuff.
Evan (12:33):
Yet.
I mean, if you're out therewith a musket and you miss, like
well hold on.
Let me reload take five minutesto reload this bad boy also,
can you hold up your hooves, I'dlike to investigate yeah, man,
just let me reload this musket.
Wes (12:52):
You give you a pedicure.
I don't know.
I think you know.
Just based on the conversation,there's probably a pretty good
chance.
You know that they just happento have wolves.
But they were dealing with someruthless fucking serial killer
man.
They had their own Jack theRipper going on.
Evan (13:11):
I mean, that kind of you
know would make more sense to me
than some supernatural wolfrunning around you know
murdering people, but I don'tknow.
Wes (13:20):
You know, you never know,
you never know.
Although, man, if they got thisthing, if he got it stuffed
like he did the taxidermy workon this thing, why can't we see
this?
Is this still in existence?
Are there any paintings of this?
Evan (13:35):
I believe it's in some
museum.
Wes (13:37):
to be honest with you
Really what, yeah, but black and
red fur.
I mean, that's spot on with alot of the people's descriptions
that had encounters with it.
Evan (13:49):
Right, yeah, that's what
they said was black and red fur.
Mell (13:52):
Like red as in like red,
red or red as in like ginger, I
mean.
Evan (13:56):
I don't know.
Wes (13:57):
I'm thinking like a deep
wine, red.
Maybe, a burgundy, yeah,burgundy, a good Merlot.
Mell (14:06):
We're stupid.
Yeah, burgundy, a good merlotor stupid.
Wes (14:07):
Oh man, Only on sight.
Mell (14:10):
So it ended after he shot
him and stuffed it.
Evan (14:14):
Yeah, the killings, the
mass killings around the area
and the region ended after thisguy shot this thing.
Mell (14:21):
Or maybe he was the serial
killer.
Wes (14:25):
Ooh, was he a local or did
he come in from outside?
He came in from out.
Mell (14:31):
Uh-huh, ma see, ma, so I
don't know, he did it.
Wes (14:38):
Guilty.
Mell (14:39):
Guilty as charged.
Evan (14:41):
Next case.
Wes (14:42):
Hang him.
Evan (14:43):
Oh man, so fun story.
It's a cool story.
It's interesting.
You know, you never know whatwas real, what wasn't real, but
it was documented that that allthose killings and murders did
happen in that region of franceduring that time yeah, I knew
about the, the werewolf aspect,but I never deep dove into it,
so I didn't find out all theselittle, uh little tidbits of
information it's rooted inhistory.
Mell (15:06):
It's not just like word of
mouth, it's actually been
documented in historical recordyeah, it's pretty interesting
man when you can find that inhistory.
I think that's far morefascinating than some of the
bullshit that people make upabsolutely.
Evan (15:22):
oh yeah, for yeah, for
sure.
Well, if you enjoyed that,you'll really enjoy this next
one.
Mell (15:27):
Ooh, Ooh, stay tuned,
folks.
All right, you tickled my fancy.
Evan (15:32):
So this next story hits a
little closer to home here.
This one comes to us out of thegreat states of Kentucky and
Tennessee.
Ooh shit, I know where you'regoing.
This is the beast of the landbetween the lakes he went there,
oh my god so those of you outthere that are listening that
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don't know, land between thelakes is a.
What is it?
Is it just a national park, oris it like?
I think it is wildlifemanagement area or all-in-one
kind of thing I think it's kindof.
Wes (16:07):
It's kind of a mix between
those.
Evan (16:10):
Yeah but it's like a park
350 000 acres yeah, and it's
split between uh kentucky lakeand lake barkley yeah, it's a.
Mell (16:19):
It's a national forest
there we go.
Wes (16:24):
It's a gem.
I love it out there.
Evan (16:25):
It's awesome, incredible
it's a beautiful place really is
?
It's just right down the roadfrom us.
So, anyways, there's thisalleged creature that roams out
there that they call the beastof lbl, and this thing is said
to resemble a gigantic, you know, like seven feet tall, half man
, half wolf, that walks on twolegs and has five fingered human
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hands, vicious claws on them,kind of thing, what's with the
wolves.
Hey, the wolves are freaking.
Scary man.
Wes (16:58):
They're scary, that's.
That's what's up with them.
Evan (17:02):
And a seven foot tall one
that walks like a man, that's
what's up with them.
And a seven foot tall one thatwalks like a man, that's really
scary.
Wes (17:06):
Probably wouldn't be as
scared if he was like it's a
seven foot tall goat, like hewouldn't be as scared of that I
mean.
Evan (17:12):
that would be terrifying.
Wes (17:13):
Seven foot tall poodle?
I don't know, that would bescary as well actually.
Yeah, I'm not messing with aseven foot poodle.
Yeah, that's bad.
I don't know, I guess anything.
Seven foot tall.
Evan (17:26):
That's what I was thinking
.
Yeah, pretty much.
Mell (17:30):
Do proceed.
Evan (17:31):
This thing apparently has
massive crushing jaws and
glowing eyes, and some peopleclaim it to be some sort of
Native American skinwalker typething.
I don't know Of thing.
I don't know.
I don't know where they'regetting that from, but who knows
?
Anyways, early accounts fromFrench explorers and traders in
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this region say that they werewarned of some thing that the
Shawnee fur traders warned themabout called.
I don't know how to say thisword, I'm just gonna say it.
It's like loop guru.
I don't know how you say that.
Wes (18:15):
I think you nailed it.
Evan (18:16):
Anyways, the Shawnee
traders out there warned them of
this crazy creature in theregion, and a later legend
claims that this monster is thespirit of a shape-shifting
Shawnee shaman who was killed inwolf form by the inhabitants of
his village for abusing powersor something.
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His spirit is said to stillwalk the woods in search of
revenge.
Yeah, so, um.
Other accounts of this beast oflbl from the early days of
american expansion into kentuckytell of lots of hunters
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disappearing in the woods,strange and unnatural howls that
, uh, you know, echoed throughthe night in the forest.
And at this time, during thistime, there was, like bison that
still roamed wild in kentucky,I believe, and, uh, the hunters
would sometimes encounter thesemutilated carcasses of these
bison that were lying, just likehalf eaten, you know, and their
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throats had been ripped open bythese massive claw marks.
Now, who's to say that wasn'tjust a pack of wolves or coyotes
or something else that was, youknow, roaming around killing
these bison back in the day?
Mell (19:30):
I don't know well in the
beginning of the 20th century
this is a story that I heardwhen I first got to Fort
Campbell.
They said that it was thebeginning of the 20th century,
early 1900s there was this groupof old folks and they were
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sharing their encounters of thebeast of LDL and one guy said
that he was running out of oneof his horse stalls because he
was trying to hurry up and getall of the animals into the
stalls and the beast of lblstopped right in front of his,
spread out its arms like it wasgonna grab him.
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it howled or maybe hug him youknow, wolves need hugs, they,
they're angry.
Wes (20:19):
Yeah, I don't know.
You know he's lonely.
Mell (20:21):
Could be.
The other wolves didn't want toplay with him, so, anyway, it
spread its arms out like itwanted to grab him, but then at
the last minute it howled andthen ran past him into the
sunset and he said he wet hisoveralls during the episode hell
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yeah, brother, well, and nowyou know he's not bullshitting
man, because nobody's sayingthey're not in the early 1900s
to say it in early 1900s a manain't gonna say I wet my
overalls unless he wet hisoveralls
um another man said that hewould hear it wail a lot at
night, but it didn't sound likea wolf or coyote.
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It was more deeper, longer,stronger sounding than would
come out of any animal that hehad ever heard.
Wes (21:16):
So I heard it man.
Mell (21:19):
You've heard it Well.
Wes (21:19):
I mean, I heard, so I heard
it, man, you've heard it.
Well, I mean I, I, I heardsomething stop it yeah, at land
between the lakes, yep swear togod tell it uh, tell the story
no I don't I mean I don't wantto.
Evan (21:30):
Yeah, no, seriously um,
yeah, tell them of course.
Wes (21:33):
What are we talking about
here?
All right, so I was, I was deerhunting man, I was deer hunting
and I was deer hunting man, Iwas deer hunting and, uh, I was
deer hunting on the Kentuckyside of LBO and, um, I went out
I get, we were still workingtogether, evan at the store,
okay, and I took off after work,you know.
So I had maybe an hour to hunt,you know, but I drive all the
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way out there, I get out of mytruck, I got my climbing stand
on my back and I'm walking downthe edge of this.
It was already harvested cornat the time, you know.
So it's just an empty field.
Walking down the edge of thefield, it's probably, I don't
know, two 300 yards long, andI'm about two thirds of the way
back there and the woods wasjust dead man, it was super
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quiet and this it was more likea roar, you know, than a howl,
um, but it was super quiet.
And this it was more like aroar, you know, than a howl, but
it was super deep and it wasreally really loud, man, almost
more like, uh, like you know,when you hear cows move, they do
that, that real deep, freakingmove you know, it was, it was
kind of like that, but butguttural.
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I I don't know really how toexplain it, but it came from
behind me back the way that Iparked my truck and I stopped
there for a minute and was likewhat the hell was that?
And it did it again and I justwalked back to the truck and I
threw my climber in and I, Iwent home.
I didn't even hunt that night.
Mell (22:52):
As a matter of fact, I've
never hunted out there since man
stop so for those that don'tknow, like if wes isn't going to
hunt out somewhere there's gotto be a reason.
Wes (23:02):
There's a problem.
I won't go back.
I won't go back, really, and Idon't know what it was, but
there's no.
There's no cattle, there'snothing out there, there's
nothing in those woods that caneven make that freaking noise.
Man, yeah, so I don't know whatit was have you guys ever heard
of jan's tales?
Mell (23:19):
no, no, no jan's tales is
stories put together of
experiences.
It's a collection by thisperson named uh jan thompson and
they're as, as from what Icould find they were like the
original source I could find forthe beast of lbl.
Well, apparently thompsonstated that in the early 1980s
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they used to work midnight atthe gas station that was just
like right by the kentucky damand it's right in the beginning
of lbl in grand rivers.
Well, he had two visitors thatmade him think they were
possibly werewolves, but hethinks it's more like the Beast
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of LBL.
Evan (24:11):
Okay.
Mell (24:13):
He said after he started
to shake so bad that he couldn't
take it anymore.
They were and it was him and Iguess like two officers or
something that were stuck therefor like eight hours because
they were too afraid to leavethe booth.
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The two officers one was likeshaking and was in a state of
shock and confusion so wait,hold on, hold, on pause.
Evan (24:45):
These guys were running
like a you know convenience
store thing or this guy was, andthere was two officers in there
with him that ran and there waslike there was like werewolves
outside of this conveniencestore.
Mell (24:58):
Well, from what I
understood, Thompson would hear
him, okay, and he wasn't sure hewas in the gas station.
I don't know if Jan Thompson isa male or a female, so I'm just
going to say he.
But anyway, the two officersran inside the gas station and
they were scared shitless, andso they heard it and then ran
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inside.
Well, he heard it, jan thompsonheard it.
Then the two officers ran in.
One officer had to sit on thecurb to put his head between his
legs and vomit, and the otherofficer came in what the hell
yeah, um, to get some water forhis partner.
There were no other customersand the officers said I don't
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even know how to put this theysaw this like nasty shadow, like
thing that would wait aroundthe corner, and they tried to
call for help, but they didn'tknow if anybody was going to
believe them of what they saw.
And it was so it was kind oflike a cross between a werewolf,
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but they got that feeling thatit was intelligent and it was a.
It was going to do them harm.
They wanted to warn the campersand everything else like that
and call for backup, but theythat when they went to one
camping area everybody was dead.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I'mtracking.
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Yeah, I'm tracking what you'retalking about motor home yeah,
yeah and so when the cops wentin there to warn people hey,
there might be wolves in thearea or we're hearing these
strange noises everybody wasdead.
They had been ripped to shreds.
Evan (26:49):
Yeah.
Mell (26:49):
It was a motorhome.
Evan (26:50):
There was four people in
there, I believe.
Mell (26:52):
Yeah, there was the
motorhome.
The frame had been torn, thedoors were hanging by one hinge
like kind of crooked, and thenwhen they looked through the
window they could see some sortof zigzagged movements.
And then there were bloodyhandprints that slid down the
thin metal walls and there wasblood everywhere.
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The people were ripped upinside what used to be three
bodies.
It was a family on a happyvacation, but the clothing was
ripped.
Their bodies and the body partswere not just separated, but
they had been torn out of thesockets, and that takes a lot of
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strength.
That's not just something youjust do.
You know what I mean.
Evan (27:43):
Yeah.
Mell (27:44):
And there was a pile of
bowels.
All of their bowels were put ina pile, with pieces of loose
flesh still clinging to themuscle.
Evan (27:55):
I mean, you don't want to
eat that?
No, you can put that over thereto the side.
That's a scrap pile.
Mell (28:00):
It was a was a father, a
mother and a young son I was.
Evan (28:04):
I had read that there was
a daughter as well.
Wes (28:07):
Yeah, found in the tree the
daughter, daughter's half-eaten
body was lodged up in a treeyeah, yeah, like way, like 20
feet in the tree, like it wasway up there, tucked up in a, in
a saddle or whatever.
That's crazy.
Evan (28:19):
Yeah, I read something
that that whole police incident
was supposedly or allegedlysomehow like covered up by the
authorities.
Wes (28:30):
Yeah, by the men in black.
Yeah, it was.
Evan (28:33):
I don't know something
about a cover up for that whole
incident, but I haven't read toomuch into that.
Wes (28:38):
I don't know much about
that dude, I looked, I tried to
find the you know like thepolice reports and just
something, man, I couldn't findnothing, nothing they said that
they looked at me.
Mell (28:49):
You know, could it been a
bobcat, a bear, could it have
been the?
Wes (28:54):
coroner said it couldn't
have been a bear because the I
guess the but the bite patternthat they found the snout would
have been far too elongated toeven be a bear.
Even if it was a bear, which itcouldn't be a bear you know,
yeah, I mean definitely.
Evan (29:09):
I don't think there's any
bears around here.
Wes (29:11):
I mean, I guess there's
like I mean like they're
dropping them in out in easttennessee.
Mell (29:15):
That's wild it was the
coroner that was just like well,
it can't be this, it can't.
Evan (29:20):
It's not a bobcat, or it
would have had this and the
bobcat tearing people's limbsout of their sockets not to
mention keep in mind theirbowels were put in a pile yeah,
I mean, even if it was like,even like a mountain lion, a
mountain lion is not going to doall of that like that's, that's
but I mean, it would tuck yourass up in a tree that is one
thing it would do and then janthompson said that she, uh, he
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or she, whatever it was, theycould hear it.
Mell (29:47):
So they didn't want to
leave the gas station before the
police officers ran in and theysaid it sounded like a kind of
a growl.
But it had like a clickingsound and a rough clicking growl
, as if it's like kind of like acar with a bad muffler.
Evan (30:04):
They said have you heard
the story about the same beast
from the 1973, the group ofMurray State University?
Wes (30:15):
kids, yeah.
Mell (30:17):
I didn't get the full
story, I just knew it was a
bunch of kids from MurrayCollege, yeah, from Murray State
University College kids, yeah.
Evan (30:21):
Yeah, I didn't get the
full story, I just knew it was a
bunch of kids from MurrayCollege, yeah, from Murray State
, up there.
They kind of went.
They went out there in LBL and,you know, went camping.
They were driving this old Vitabus out there.
This was 1973 after all.
Mell (30:31):
So Well, were they hippies
.
Wes (30:34):
I mean pure rock stars.
I hope so.
Mell (30:37):
I mean pure rock stars.
Wes (30:38):
I hope so.
Mell (30:42):
Well, if they were hippies
, it's because you know that
smell of patchouli and stuff itattracts bear slash, horse
panther dogs Wrong story.
It attracts hooven, beasts,hooven beasts that sound like
cars with bad mufflers.
Evan (30:57):
Yeah.
So in the middle of the night,out there, these kids, you know,
these college kids are, youknow, camping in the middle of
the night they hear these likeshuffling sounds around their
campsite and it's moving allaround, you know, in the leaves
they get out and they shinetheir flashlights around.
You know they don't see nothing.
They're like what the hell isthat?
That's weird.
And then all of a sudden theystart hearing these deafening
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howling sounds, like so closeright up and next to them and it
was wild and insane howling.
It was like all around them allat one time.
Um, they were like it's like awolf howl, but like with
unnatural, like blood curdlingquality that sounded almost like
laughter at times, really.
Yeah that's what they said.
So these dudes obviously scaredshitless.
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Playing it smart, they ran tothe van or the VW bus.
They take off, tearing down theroad, they're hauling ass and
then all of a sudden, in thetaillights behind them, they see
that there's this shadowyfigure chasing after them.
You know, chasing them down.
It's barely visible back there.
And as they take the corner,you know, leaving out of the
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campground area and headed downthe road, they feel this massive
jolt into the side of the bus.
They peel free of it and theyget all the way.
They didn't stop at all.
They drove all the way back tocampus, didn't even stop once.
They get all the way back tocampus and they see these
massive like claw marks torndown through the metal next to
the engine compartment of thebus.
Mell (32:27):
You know what?
That reminds me of jeepers,creepers hell yeah, it does.
Scary as shit and they're inlike this coke can of a vehicle
yeah, in the middle of nowhere,yeah bro, and those vw buses.
Wes (32:41):
They can only go so fast
yeah, you don't know that one
might have been souped up.
He might have turbocharged it.
I don't know.
Evan (32:47):
Yeah, twin turbos so that
one is left, you know, unknown.
Nobody knows what the hell thatis.
Ain't nothing been killed outthere?
That was crazy.
Wes (32:59):
No wolves, no man and like,
how much time do we spend out
there, man?
So much time yeah that thatlike how thing that I heard.
That's the only thing.
I've never ran into.
Evan (33:11):
This thing I've never seen
it, you know yeah, but like you
said earlier, I never do 350000 acres like it so big.
It's a massive chunk of land,but it is crazy and it is creepy
, it's very creepy.
It's kind of like just lingersin the back of your mind every
time you go out there and you'rewalking around in the woods,
especially at dark, you're like,oh fuck.
Wes (33:31):
Yeah, yeah, when you're
like two and a half miles back
and you're walking back with ared lens flashlight.
Evan (33:40):
You're like oh man, this
is a bad start thinking about
all the things that are real.
Wes (33:43):
You know you're like, oh
man, these hogs.
You know damn cougars andcoyotes.
And then you start thinkingabout you know the shit that you
don't know, the beast, thebeast, you know, it's always in
the back of your mind, ifthere's any cryptid in LBL, it
wouldn't be a Bigfoot or just abasic werewolf.
Mell (34:03):
It needs to be something
special, just needs a better
description, that's all.
Wes (34:08):
Well, you don't get a lot
of descriptions from this thing
because it kills everybody.
It comes in contact Bro.
Mell (34:13):
it had a whole bunch of
college students in the VW van.
It tried to kill them they justyou know, know they got away
the power of the bus was toostrong number one twin turbos
there's no power in vw busesnumber two.
Come on, you don't thinkthere's not one person in that
fucking bus that wasn't lookingout the window saying it's
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getting closer, it, it's almosthere.
Really, I'm not saying a horrormovie Everybody's looking
forward.
No, they're going to.
Wes (34:44):
And they all had their
seatbelts on.
Evan (34:48):
They definitely didn't
smoke any weed that night either
, not at all yeah.
Wes (34:52):
None.
Mell (34:53):
What?
No, they did LSD.
Wes (34:55):
Or acid.
Yeah, they were dropping tabs.
Turns out there was no beast.
Evan (35:05):
No, it was a bad trip,
that's all it was so, mel, did
you have anything that youwanted to add into this?
Mell (35:14):
I did find a Hindu
flesh-eating monster.
Evan (35:21):
Hindu right.
Mell (35:23):
Lay it on us, but
apparently it's pretty big and
they're called rukshasas.
Have you ever heard of them?
Evan (35:29):
No.
Mell (35:30):
In Hindu mythology.
They are bloodthirsty demonsthat were banished from the
realm of the gods and they haveto live on earth as some sort of
beast, and they make mankindits prey.
They are as evil as evil can be, and they claim that a few of
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them formed alliances with noblearmies and fought in battle
with them back in the ancienttimes.
Evan (35:59):
All right, you've piqued
my interest.
Wes (36:01):
That's badass.
Evan (36:03):
Yeah.
Mell (36:04):
There's actually lots of
sculptures and paintings of
Rakshasas, so their shape isbasically human, but they're
exceptionally tall like giants,almost exceptionally tall like
giants.
Almost their limbs are liketwice as thick as a regular
person's, but they have fangsthat come out of the corner of
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their lips.
They've got claws for fingersand toes.
They have bull-like horns thatgrow from not just the sides of
their head, it can come from thefront or the back.
Wes (36:39):
Like a unicorn.
Mell (36:40):
But there's multiple horns
because, it's a weapon as well.
Their eyes are kind of likepiggish, but they glow and they
have manes, and the strongerones have multiple heads.
What they fly, they spit, fire.
They possess dead corpses andthen we'll use those to attack
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the enemies fucking.
Wes (37:05):
Oh, my necromancers now
we've got to draw.
Yeah, we've got to draw theline these things can't just do
everything.
Mell (37:12):
Yes, they can, and
apparently they can magic, for
their magic is illusion.
Now they're tricksters too, butthey're extremely difficult to
kill I imagine they, they are.
They get their strength atnight, but they have an
insatiable taste for human fleshinsatiable taste for the dead
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Cue Rob.
Wes (37:36):
Zombie.
Mell (37:39):
Not only do Hindus believe
in this, but Buddhists do as
well, and Buddhists claim thatthe Buddha himself encountered
one who threatened to eat theBuddha if he couldn't answer the
riddles.
But you know, buddha is allknowing, and so they were able
to protect it.
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The females they makethemselves super beautiful to
lure in the men, and then theyeat them alive.
Dang what?
They eat them alive from themiddle.
Wes (38:14):
It's good that they don't
start eating you at the feet,
though.
Mell (38:17):
Yeah, that would be
frowned upon but they want you
to.
That would suck the thing is,is they want you to suffer?
Wes (38:25):
then they should start at
the feet.
Yeah, they're fucking up no,they.
Mell (38:28):
They start in the, they
rip your innards out, and then I
mean they torture you as theyeat you yeah, but I'm not gonna
suffer for very long if you'reripping my innards out.
I'm going to die pretty quickly.
You'd be surprised.
That is not true.
You want me to suffer, youstart at my toes.
A person can live for a while,even though they've been
abdominally eviscerated.
Evan (38:47):
I guess you would be the
one to know.
Mell (38:48):
I would Wait, wait, that
came across really weird people.
Wes (39:01):
That came across really
weird I don't eat innards.
Yes it did.
Yeah, yes, yes, it did.
That was.
That was weird as fuck.
The end, allegedly.
That's crazy.
Yeah, that's a weird creepy.
Evan (39:07):
I never heard of demon,
goblin creature.
Whatever the hell it is I got.
I got another short one wecould talk about if you guys
want to go for it.
Go, all right.
So, jesus Mel, you crack me up.
This one comes to us fromEastern South Africa, and this
is known as the.
I don't quite know how to saythis word, but it's Malawi.
Mell (39:29):
Malawi.
Evan (39:30):
Malawi.
I think it's a place, an area,region in Africa.
The Malawi Terror Beast is whatthey call it, so it was located
in the district of Dawa.
Mell (39:45):
Are you talking about
Malawi, like the country?
Evan (39:48):
Yeah, malawi, that's it,
the country.
Yes, I don't know how to saythese things, man, I'm not from
Africa.
Mell (39:55):
Okay, this is true because
you're very white.
Evan (39:57):
Yeah, white as shit.
Anyways, in 2003, this thingcaused some pretty widespread
panic and chaos all across thisregion.
Mell (40:06):
Did you say 2003?
Evan (40:08):
Yeah, Very recent.
Yes, yes, I did All right.
So this thing, this actuallyresulted in several deaths and
prompted military action withinthe region.
Um, so, in the district of dawain eastern south africa, um,
there were some reports emergedof an unidentified animal
attacking and mauling residentsin the region.
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The unidentified creatureattacked 19 different residents
and killed three of them atfirst.
And, uh, so this you know.
Naturally, this is an area ofthe world where animal attacks
are, you know, quite common.
We're talking about africa here.
So, however it was, you knowthe brutal ways in which these
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people were killed and maimedthat struck fear into basically
the entire nation there.
The three deaths that itstarted with were of two elderly
women and a three-year-old baby.
Mell (41:03):
Each of these people had
their skulls completely crushed
in them and their intestines andtheir genitals were all
devoured.
Wes (41:15):
That's weird, Like that's
just a weird place to start yeah
, very weird, very freakingweird they ate their.
We was yeah, yeah well you knowtwo, two elderly ladies and uh
some hoo-hahs and some we was,yeah, so it crushed their skulls
in you know like down to theyou know meat just nothing but a
pile of meat there, and thenate their intestines and all of
their privates.
Evan (41:33):
It crushed their skulls in
you know like, down to the you
know meat Just nothing but apile of meat there, and then ate
their intestines and all oftheir privates.
Jesus.
Wes (41:44):
And that was it.
That's how they left.
Evan (41:45):
That's how it left them
Just like that Skulls crushed in
intestines and privates wereeaten, nothing else.
Wes (41:52):
What do you think happened
first?
Mell (41:55):
I'm going to say the skull
got crushed in first.
Could it have been a hyena?
Wes (41:58):
I don't know yet that was
the first thing that popped into
my brain too, so get strangerAll of those that were lucky
enough to survive their attacks.
Evan (42:08):
Remember I told you there
were 19 people attacked but only
killed three of them.
Mell (42:12):
Oh, so all of these people
saw this.
Evan (42:15):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, they did
.
Mell (42:17):
And they didn't have blow
darts or spears.
Evan (42:20):
I don't think so.
Mell (42:21):
Well, they're slacking,
they're fucking up buddy.
Wes (42:24):
Or maybe guns.
I don't think it's 2003.
Maybe they had some guns.
Mell (42:27):
I know, but I'm still
thinking.
Wes (42:29):
No, I don't know what.
They didn't have no boomerangs.
Mell (42:40):
What's here?
Oh no, addle, addles, come on,man listen, my biscuits not
completely done in the middleright now.
Evan (42:44):
Go fair enough, all right.
So those lucky enough tosurvive these attacks suffered
horrific disfigurements um.
Several of the victims losteither both legs or both hands,
and two people lost both oftheir ears and eyes.
One unfortunate woman had hernose and her mouth completely
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torn off by this creature.
Mell (43:08):
To gouge out their eyes
and rip both ears off.
That's not like one swipe.
Imagine being the guy whosurvived this attack without and
lost both of his legs I coulddeal with losing both legs, but
if you just got attacked by thisrandom ass beast that just
ravaged your village and thenyou lost your eyesight and your
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hearing, bro, I would be thatthat's a whole level of p PTSD
that is just a whole notherlevel because you're so, you
can't see where you're going andyou know, none of those fuck
fucks are going to help you out,because they're all running in
different directions and thenyou're just standing there.
Evan (43:51):
Speaking of running.
In the wake of this attack,over 4000 people left the area
of dawah to seek refuge in thetown halls but in the early
2000s there was a lot of ethniccleansing and wars that were
going on.
Mell (44:07):
Who's to say it wasn't
just rebel factions going
through towns with machetes andthen they're afraid, faces off.
Evan (44:14):
Well, because there was
survivors of the attacks.
Mell (44:18):
That's what I'm saying.
How do you know that thesurvivors wouldn't I mean you
wouldn't want to put out thisrebel faction that's going to
blame them?
Evan (44:29):
I mean, I guess.
Mell (44:30):
I don't know.
Maybe it would put them on themap.
Maybe they think it'll increasetourism.
It would put them on the map.
Maybe they think it'll increasetourism.
All you hunters can come outhere to Malawi and our village
and get you, get your privatesyeah.
But while you hunt this, youknow, please partake in our
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fruit stand.
Evan (44:52):
Well, the officials you
know, as official as it gets
over there in that region of theworld.
The officials claimed that itwas a hyena that was attacking
these people.
However, the people that sawthis thing claimed that it was
not any kind of hyena they'dever seen.
Mell (45:09):
And they wouldn't know.
Evan (45:10):
Yeah, I would say they
wouldn't know To this day what
the beast was or where it went,remains, you know, a mystery.
They never caught it, unlessyou believe the hyena theory.
Nobody knows hyenas run and patI mean yeah, typically, and
they laugh, yeah, they make,they make funny noises.
Mell (45:31):
So one hyena, I would
think a village could could kill
it or at least hyenas arepretty badass.
Evan (45:38):
They are badass and they
have big jaw strength is
ridiculous.
Mell (45:41):
That's great, but you got
I mean easily crush a skull.
You got 25 villagers withweapons.
I mean come on.
Wes (45:48):
Yeah, but with what weapons
They've got?
Blow darts and addle addles, ordid they have guns?
Mell (45:53):
They have machetes.
Evan (45:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not going to fend off afucking hyena with a machete.
Mell (46:05):
If it's coming at me and
it's going to eat my wee-wah.
Wes (46:08):
I am absolutely a slash,
slash, slash Wee-wah.
Evan (46:10):
You'll never take me alive
, not me and my wee-wah.
That's crazy, though, so howlong did it go on for think it
was just.
It was just a couple monthsduring the early months of 2003
and these people, like, likethousands of people, left that.
It left that little town inthat area you know to go, and
they took refuge in the townhalls and stuff and they were.
They only returned home whenthey had armed guards to take
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them home, like they were thatscared of it but then it just
never, and never had like it,stopped as quick as it started
pretty much.
It stopped a little whileafterwards and you know it.
Uh, people went back to theirhomes you know what that reminds
me of?
Mell (46:47):
did you guys ever see that
movie, the ghost in the
darkness?
Wes (46:49):
yes, such a good movie man.
Mell (46:52):
I like the movie flick
I've actually seen the pair of
lions yeah I went to chicago andit's in the field museum I'd
want to go, man.
Wes (47:01):
I've seen the pictures of
the taxidermy, though, and I'll
be honest with you, man.
Mell (47:05):
I look at those lines and
I'm like you guys don't really
intimidate me, you know yeah,well, for those that don't know,
uh, or who hasn't seen theghost in the darkness, it back
in Kenya and, like the late1800s, early 1900s, there were
these two.
There were.
It was a pair of male lions andin nine months they hunted
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humans and they killed over 130people.
Yeah, michael Douglas and ValKilmer, they were the two in the
movie, but they had to bring inthe specialists from outside to
hunt them and kill them, andthe real bodies, they stuffed
them in there in the FieldMuseum in Chicago Illinois.
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They hunted the humans for thekill, not to eat.
That's what she said.
So that's what this story kindof reminds me of.
Evan (47:56):
In Chicago Illinois, they
hunted the humans for the kill,
not to eat the human.
Mell (47:58):
So that's what this story
kind of reminds me of.
Evan (48:01):
Yeah, this thing only ate
their wee-wahs.
Mell (48:06):
And the reason why that to
me is just so disturbing is
because you guys have hoo-hoosand they can bite off a hoo-hoo,
but to this sounds awful to eatthe wee-wah out.
I mean, how does that even work?
Evan (48:23):
The whole groin out of
there, I guess.
I mean there's nothing reallyto bite off.
Mell (48:28):
Really Everything's tucked
neatly inside.
Evan (48:30):
I don't know, man, I don't
know how it works.
You know what else could crusha skull though A rock, a damn
evil-ass, or maybe an ape chimp.
Wes (48:41):
Yeah, and those will take
your nose and your ears.
Evan (48:43):
Yeah, they will.
That's what I immediatelythought of when I heard this
story.
I was like man that sounds likeone of those evil chimps over
there whatever they are thatfight each other.
They wage war on each other,you know.
Oh God yeah, yeah man, thatstuff is crazy.
They like rip each other'sfaces off and shit all the time
yeah, and they're incrediblystrong.
Wes (49:00):
They can crush a skull with
their hand yeah, they get war
parties together and go to theother monkeys freaking house and
terrorize them, that's nuts.
Evan (49:10):
Wage war on them.
Mell (49:11):
It's wild extremely
intelligent, so they know how to
chimps, chimpanzees, I don'tknow if those are like in this
area of africa or not.
Evan (49:21):
I don't know.
I didn't do that much researchon it.
Mell (49:23):
I'll admit it malawi has
gorillas, african gorillas.
Evan (49:28):
Um, oh they've got the
chimps, chimpanzees yeah, all
right, yeah, see it could havejust been a chimpanzee could
have been a rogue chimp outthere just crushing people's
skulls and eating their wee-waws.
Vicious, just vicious, littlebastards.
Mell (49:42):
It's just awkward.
It's just unnecessarily awkward.
Evan (49:47):
That's all I got for you
tonight.
If you guys were offended byanything that we said tonight
about your country or anythinglike that, we're Americans, we
have the tact of bowling ballsthing like that.
Mell (49:57):
Uh, we're americans, we
have the tact of bowling balls.
If you are from africa, we, we,we need to know, and
particularly been to malawi, wekind of want to know your take,
your, your, your take and um.
I also want to point out, uh,for our listeners, if you didn't
know, if you want to sendquestions, if you go on our
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website and you go down to thebottom and right any of the
pages on our website, there's alittle microphone button.
You can click that microphonebutton and ask us questions and
it will send it to us and wewill answer your questions.
We'll actually play yourquestion and we'll answer it.
So, wherever you are, if youhave a question for us, send us
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a voicemail message.
Uh, we want to hear from youguys, we'll play your voice.
You'll be on the pod with usshit.
Wes (50:48):
Yeah, that's dope as fuck
man, I didn't even know that was
a thing.
Yeah, can I go on there and doyou?
Mell (50:52):
absolutely can wasp, and I
know you will hell yeah well,
that's it for tonight for ourman-eating monsters.
Evan (51:00):
Hope you enjoyed.
Mell (51:02):
What's the lesson today,
Wes?
How are you going to take usout of this?
Wes (51:05):
All right.
If you're going to go to Africa, protect your hoo-ha, go, fuck
yourself.
Mell (51:12):
As you talk about hoo-has,
protect your hoo-ha and just
fuck yourself.
Perfect, great.