BAD F*G!

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(00:08):
What do you sound? Like, I don't know what.
There we go. Hopefully I sound like me,
bitch. See, that was the perfect.
I should have been like, what doyou mean?
What do I sound like? Is this recording?
Oh no. That's the intro, That's the
intro, that's the intro, that's the intro.

(00:36):
Oh my God, where are my notes? What is it?
What day is it? What's happening?
What's going on? We can't tell them the date then
the the illusion is ruined that we that these are pre recorded.
I think they will deduce. That it's not a fireside chat
with FDR live and on the radio. I just remembered something.

(01:02):
This is completely unrelated. Everything is yes.
So me and my drag family, we have this, we've turned this it
started as a meme on TikTok where this creator was like
dragispheres and fun, Dragispheres and fun.
And then I don't remember the original creator, but they look
directly at the camera and they're like, when is it my turn
to be happy? So anytime we're like, any time

(01:26):
we're like tired or like the show's dragging on or like we
are like getting ready to open the doors and we're just like,
oh, great, now we have to pretend to be like entertaining
or whatever. We're we all look at each other
and we're like dragger Spears and fun.
This last this I'm time stampingit.
Graduation weekend fruit bat andI were together in bagel hell in
the kitchen. Bagel hell.

(01:46):
That's what we call it, Bagel hell.
And I don't know whether one of us slipped up or one of us just
came up with it, but we we were like Fagus, fierce and fun.
And it I was. Fagus Fierce and.
Fun, Ryan. I need that on a shirt.
Oh no, I. Need that.
I'm gonna make stickers. Yeah, I need a sticker.

(02:09):
I need a big sticker and a little.
Sticker. I was crying.
I was in. The middle of Bagel.
Text that to me immediately. I will forget.
Yeah, I was like, I have to remember that I need that's got
to be printed on something. So maybe my come back into
making art will be I will make asticker that says Fagosphere
some fun I. Mean.

(02:29):
Yeah, it's not wrong. There are no lies detected, no
Lord at all. I mean, there's, I feel like
we're going to time stamp it anyway because of, you know,
sometimes we talk about relevantshit in the day.
You think we talk about things that are relevant, Interesting.
All Stars is not relevant, no, but you know, to somebody it is.
It's their everything to. The girls that are trying to
keep their careers alive on All Stars, it's relevant I'm.

(02:52):
Sure. Choke.
Oh my God, that's twice. Now.
So yeah, welcome to episode 14. Hi everybody.
I'm Kelana and I'm Skittles Welcome.
And we're going to talk shit about Drag Race Ulster.
I'm kidding. I mean, you're not far off.
Listen, we were going to dive into it anyway, so we might as.

(03:15):
Well, jump in. I mean, we have some thoughts.
We don't want to spend too much time on it.
We've said repeatedly we're not a review show, but this is a
huge format change, huge format change.
Also, this is our drag race as our Olympics.
So obviously we have feelings about it.
I was bored. Those are my feelings.
That first episode was way too much talking, not enough things.

(03:35):
Happened. I didn't need all the back
story. Yeah, like we know these people.
That's the whole point of all. Stars like you don't need to
tell me what season they let us know back and all that like.
That was way too long. I do so for.
Every one of. Them also they they, I'm pretty
sure those cuts, the smash cuts,they used those for meet the
Queens. So if you watch meet the Queens,

(03:57):
it's the same. You've already seen that smash
cut down to like their little trading card thing they're doing
for this season. Let's just say I can understand
why they had a hard time findingQueens to come back and do this
season. I think a format change could be
refreshing and I am excited thatthey took bold choices because

(04:19):
they certainly took some bold choices.
Bold choices. I also think that challenge was
just kind of lackluster for a premiere.
I think if they had done, if they had flipped it and they had
done the other challenge first, the, the, the in the second
episode, the what was fucking the improv?
Yeah, the improv murder mystery on the On the Cruise Boat

(04:39):
challenge. I feel like that's a better
first episode. I agree.
It was more interesting to watchthan.
The the band thing, I get it. She was harkening back to her OG
days where they. Well, then they love they used
to do girl group challenges. That is like a staple of drag
race. It just, I don't know, it felt
kind of uninspired, the theme and they.

(04:59):
Felt. And it was prerecorded but
treated like it wasn't like it was.
Well you heard there was already.
They already said fuck these Ndas.
Oh, they they got the girls. And they went to the recording
studio and recorded that verse right then and there.
Before they did entrances. Before they even did entrances
and I was like damn. Which I mean, I will say, if you

(05:23):
pay enough attention to Drag Race, you know that in reality,
they always get extra time to write and record verses and they
always have off camera choreography rehearsals for
almost all of like the big groupdance numbers.
They, they obviously show them struggling on camera to get the
to get the 8 counts down or whatever, because it makes good

(05:43):
television. But they usually, and they don't
tell you that during like the, the bigger design challenges
like the ballrooms or whatever, They usually have a day, like an
extra day where they're just working on costumes and stuff.
I see now on Drag Race is is it is 2 days, sometimes 3 or 4
depending on the challenge, but it's yeah, it's not a full.
Week they're lucky and they havea long weekend off, you know,

(06:06):
but they I see now why they had to do all that back story
bullshit because they didn't have any audio of them recording
the song like they normally do. So that segment couldn't be in
the show. Which is just kind of.
Boring. Anyway, yeah, we all know it's
fake anyway, because that microphone don't go nowhere.
Yeah, they finally started plugging the bitch in.
Yeah, to begin with it was just a microphone, just on a stand.

(06:28):
And I'm like I do that, Microphone is not even plugged.
In I do like that in the recent seasons they have started when
they show the girls like blocking or recording or
anything, they show sort of morelike an outtake, sort of.
They don't show you what the final product is.
So that when you watch the telenovela or you watch the
music video or you watch the ad or whatever they're creating,

(06:50):
you're actually getting to see the final product for the first
time. Because in earlier seasons, you
basically watched them verbatim do the challenge and then you
just watched what the producers cut together.
So it's like we've already seen the music video.
This is I think it's more entertaining, but this specific
example was not. It wasn't the T.
How do you feel about the bracket format I?

(07:16):
I wish that it would have been done to where we could see like
everybody all at once. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like even if they just still wanted to do like an episode.
So like if the if this is team orange or whatever exactly they
do, episode 1 is team orange, episode 2 is team pink, episode
3 is team purple. And then we are simultaneously
keeping up with everybody the whole season.

(07:37):
That's what I want. And I didn't know.
I don't feel like but once. Episode 2 loaded and it was it
was still Team Orange. And then if you watch the end of
the episode, they have the, you know, next week.
It's the last week for Team Orange.
So instead it's just these like weird blocks of like the same
people. I don't know, it feels it's.
It feels too drawn out. Yeah.

(07:57):
You know, because like, by the time we get to the last color,
I'm going to forget about these orange bitches.
Yeah, and then they'll throw them all together.
But you know. They'll throw them all together
for the golden, like the finale,the top. 3.
Of you also I thought it would be cool this proves that I'm I
might be smarter than some of these people that write this
show I thought it would be kind of cool if you know how they

(08:17):
usually do like the lip sync smackdown and they may still I
will preface they might still actually have something like
this planned I'm just was guessing it would be really cool
if they had some sort of loser bracket yeah like a lip sync
smackdown or whatever like some sort of like the the 9 girls
that don't make it to the finalebracket they get like some sort

(08:38):
of redemption. She already done had hers this
situation, even if it is just a lip sync smackdown, which it
probably will because RuPaul. Because they're only in three
episodes. If they go home, yeah, that's
it. And then the.
Finale, I guess. All of the cast did an interview
with some beauty magazine. It was a YouTube video.
It was like 30 minutes long. I put it on in the background,

(08:59):
was doing something. And I think Lydia accidentally
spoiled something 'cause they asked her and everyone's been
talking about the first thing that she answered.
Everyone asked her, you know, how long did you have between 17
and coming back for All Stars? 10 And she said five days.
But she said five days for the first part.
Interesting. So does that mean she makes it

(09:20):
through her bracket and she's one of the people that goes on
to the winner's bracket to the end?
Because there would have been a break in between filming the
individual brackets and then bringing everybody back.
So she may sort of accidentally revealed that she makes it
through her bracket. Yeah.
Unless there's a reason to bringthem all back, because I'm sure
they all had to come back to film.
They probably brought them all back to film parts of the end

(09:41):
bracket for like, you know, the crowning Who?
Because they always crown All Stars.
They always just crown them on the mainstage.
It's not, well, they don't do life finales for anything
anymore, but All Stars is a muchsmaller affair.
They always just filmed them on the mainstage.
There's no family, there's no previous.
Sometimes they bring back the previous All Stars, sometimes
they don't. I don't know.

(10:01):
It's interesting. Definitely a format change.
You want your lemon pepper? Wings.
Yeah, I want lemon pepper wings.I'm glad I looked at my phone.
Yeah, the wings are cut off. Wings are really important.
No, I was wanting to check my notes and see if I had anything
else I wanted to say. Really sorry, Go ahead.

(10:23):
No, you can, because I've been talking for a second.
Really just for All Stars for meis I don't know, it's too many
of them. I don't.
Like this is the because I thinkIrene said this, it's the
biggest cast since her season. And I it feels just like a lot
of filler. Yeah.
Well, I think that honestly is sort of not necessarily the

(10:44):
problem of this season, but rather the problem with the
frequency that we have been having All Stars when it was.
I mean, I'm not saying it shouldbe like a huge break like we
have between 1:00 and 2:00, but like one and two.
And then obviously 2 was like the revival and then I think it
was a year or two and then we had three.
But then by All Stars 4, it started feeling like, oh, well,

(11:06):
now it feels like we haven't. We have a regular American
season and then we have an All Star season, you know, and then
it was a regular season, All Stars UK, but then it was, it's
just too many, yeah, it's too many.
And now and I listen, there are.Especially with work the against
the world and against Canada, and against the.
And I think yes, there are a lotof American rue girls that you
can that you can't hypothetically bring back for an

(11:30):
All Star season. But now we have more and more
girls saying they don't want to do All Stars or they've already
done it. I feel like had they not changed
the format they would have had more Queens willing to return.
Well, and we, I mean, we know from previous seasons where the
people have been like, it just wasn't like the timing, like I
was already doing like a tour orwhatever or you know.

(11:51):
And a lot of people already havelike gigs planned out that they.
For months, for months, contractually back out of, yeah,
I mean, Trixie and Katya, literally their live show that
was like a world tour. You can't.
You can't back. Out of that, you can't yeah, you
know, and everything that they cancelled because of like
weather, other events, they had to make that up, you know, same
for even their podcast tour. They have to like make up those

(12:13):
dates because it's written into the contracts, you know, even if
it's six months later that they finally get back to that city.
It's crazy. But no, definitely like the tour
conflicts. But also there's I'm sure
there's contestants that they don't like the I mean, a lot of
people vocalize that they didn'tlike the Nobody Goes Home.
Even the charity season a lot ofpeople had feelings about it was

(12:36):
weird. It's weird.
I, I, I have got to give the producers credits for coming up
with something that could potentially reinvigorate All
Stars and make it different. I just don't.
I think the bracket needs more work, but it's an interesting.
Idea Is there somebody who has not done All Stars that you
would like to see do an All Starseason?

(13:00):
Oh well shit, now I need a list of all 400.
American girls, I didn't know ifyou just.
Had one if you don't have one, no, I mean, I feel, I mean,
there's obviously something. That came to me.
I do think like obviously, I mean this is a really recent,
but I do from season 17, like I do feel like Susie could come
back for All Stars of a force tobe reckoned with.
Obviously Corey King has alreadymade themselves known as like a

(13:23):
fan favorite, crowd favorite. Like she's winning social media.
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, No, she's killing it.
Like she And that's really the real winner there in the sense
that she's won, she's won socialmedia and that's how you really
keep a career. It's not season 7 that put
Trixie and Katya on the map. It's that one time they did

(13:44):
fashion photo review. And then when they got their
YouTube show together, people were just like, wait, this is
really working. And they.
I mean, they're they've both been honest that when they get
stopped by fans or whatever, they prefer to talk about the
YouTube show, the VH1 show in their podcast over the time on
Drag Race. They're like, that's the
projects we actually really enjoy is the the stuff that we

(14:06):
do like. Because that's what I'd be
following. Yeah, you know, and I mean, I,
I'm sure they're happy that DragRace put them on the map, but
it's not what's kept them in thepublic eye.
Right. I feel like Jaden Dior Fierce
would be a good one to go back. Yeah, and she and she hasn't
done any. She's been kind of under the
radar, you know, she's. Been doing her own thing in
around, you know, Huntsville, Birmingham, Tennessee, all that

(14:29):
fun stuff. No, I think definitely she could
be interesting. I do think we need to.
I think it needs to be more diverse.
The seasons that we pull from, it does usually feel like All
Stars. The thing that you like about
Feels All Stars is they have brought a couple of Queens from
Season 2 back. I do hate this because it's

(14:51):
broken up, though that that level of interaction is not the
same. But I am very excited.
I did not watch Phoenix this season.
I know who Phoenix is because she's an Atlanta icon.
And that's, you know, just down the road.
So we're we're paying, I'm paying attention to, you know,
but I would, I'm so excited to see.
Nicole Page Brooks Oh my God. Also with Anna icon.

(15:13):
Already seeing like the social media stuff.
I know it's messy and I can't wait to watch that.
She's great, she said. Oh, y'all want a good TV huh?
No, she's great. Oh, who is it?
I'm going to. I don't know if she'd ever come
back, but Kelly Mantle is so entertaining.

(15:35):
Her puck has her now is hilarious.
Do you? Do you?
I don't. I'm a couple episodes behind.
I'm also a couple episodes behind but she.
Is a fever dream every episode is a fever dream.
Her fucking intros for everybodyintros on her or even just like
'cause she before she introducesher guest, she does this like
weird made-up monologue of like a story, like of a thing that

(16:00):
she's. It's obviously not real, but
it's so also, and I know it's just the cuts between the
editing, but that fucking chime like the the triangle.
It's so the first time that I was like what is happening?
It feels unreal. It's so unhinged in the best

(16:21):
way. She's so and I've I don't
remember what we're all trippingballs.
One of her guests was like it literally they were like only
half of what we talked about made into the episode.
We were there for like 2 hours. We talked about everything and
then they just smash cut it together with those chimes.
That's what I would pay good money for, to watch unedited,

(16:42):
unclipped, like start to finish,like a sibling rivalry, like
'cause. I know they cut, I'm big.
They feel like the kind of podcast where they stop to fight
and stuff and then they're like that can't go.
On that, absolutely they do. They go on tantrums and just.
Fight about them sloppy seconds with meatball and Big Dipper.

(17:03):
They fight if the fights they have cause some of them that
make the cut. I'm like I would not have put
this on air so I wonder what thefuck happens off camera.
Yeah, yeah, it's. Crazy some of the conversations
that they have. Bless it any other we kind of.
I know. Yes we do.
Yes we do. We must.
We do Any other All Stars? My last thought is I wonder if

(17:29):
potentially our feelings could just be that the orange bracket
specifically isn't the best bracket in terms of casting.
Maybe they started with the withthe 3rd place girlies.
Yeah, and perhaps the the pink or purple bracket is going to
have more memorable TV moments that we're looking for.

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You know who surprised me in this orange bracket is Deja.
I never watched Deja season spoilers.
I haven't seen every season. I know I'm a bad I'm a bad fag.
That's AT shirt. Yeah.
Bad fag of like flames like thathateful sister T-shirt that I
have. Bad fag, bad fag.

(18:10):
I love the crop top. Write that down work.
OK, look, we have summer March. March.
Yeah, look, if March is coming, Yeah, summer's.
Already here but whatever. Shit anyways I do I do enjoy
deja a lot. I follow her on TikTok and I
enjoy I and also I do just love just like her like drank style

(18:33):
like the makeup, the hair like Ireally enjoy.
It yeah, her pain is. Gorgeous with that her like blue
smoked out with the stones. I I literally paused it like
when she walked in. No, when she walked in, I paused
and I looked at her and was like, I love, I love the shape
of her eye. And then when he gets closer, I
was like, oh, I love the stones.Like there's it's so well

(18:53):
placed, it's so good and it's not even a complicated makeup.
It was just very well executed. And I, I just love when I, when
somebody like, I don't know, that's how I feel about every
mug Lydia did during season 17. I was just like, how did you
come up with that? Because it's so graphic, but
it's so. And she managed to swap it up so
many times so good. I just am obsessed with people

(19:15):
that can execute like so many different makeup looks like that
because I, and I have, I have challenged myself and I have
been doing different makeups, especially for like vomit vision
and like the clown show. I'm doing different things.
However, I do have like a stamp that I don't like.
I change the color of the eye makeup maybe, and occasionally I

(19:39):
wear Oh, it's very much the samething every time and I like.
It I'm just a dainty woman. That's how I feel in drag.
And then I look in the mirror and I've got the Marilyn Manson
white eye contacts. I'm just a girl, Just a girl
terrorizing downtown Auburn. I don't going out to have a.
Terrorize downtown Auburn and. I.

(20:00):
Because it's 2:00 AM when we getdone?
No, because they're. They make they want gay shit to
dance to and so I get stuck after the show.
Which listen. We have our own party.
Things to complain about, Whatever.
No, I'm thankful that people want me to play my game music.
What are we talking about? What's happening?
Well, we're done talking about Drag Race, so I guess we can

(20:20):
Drag Race, we can move on to ourhot takes for this episode.
Yes, and then we'll take a breakbefore we have a break or tuck
it because I'm. The wings.
Would be here, hopefully. Yeah.
So what? Are we talking about for these
hot tapes? Listen, so my drunk ass had the
bright thought and the bright idea to talk about our music

(20:40):
industry plants that we have at the moment.
These. Just this moment, these.
People that you know just seem to pop up out of nowhere for a
little bit and then disappear. Yeah.
Like, where did you come from? And then where did you go?
I did not know you were Cotton Eye Joe.
I could see the setup, but I didn't know where you were

(21:03):
taking it. But you took it there I.
That's why I made this. Oh my God, I am going to have to
play catch up I. Really, it's just a moment for
me to bitch about Benson Boone. If I So you're a Benson moon
hater? I'm not a hater per SE.
I mean, he's a pretty boy. That's the only thing he's got

(21:23):
going for. See, Aaron and I both like
daddies. I I need, I need Connor to get
into daddies. I'm so glad he doesn't listen to
this podcast. No, I don't care.
This is where I find out that Connor actually listens to the
podcast while he's at work and he just pretends he.
Doesn't in the kitchen and it's in his ear he's listening to.

(21:44):
The I know it's not in his ear because he doesn't have his air
pods, because he destroyed them,and I will not let him borrow
mine because I know he'll break them and I can't afford to
replace them. That part.
So I love how we went immediately to our topic and
then. Oh, my God.
Yeah. We haven't talked.
Anyway, immediately, Airpods aregreat, and Apple's not

(22:04):
sponsoring this. But if Apple wants to sponsor
it, I will be an Apple user for life.
You own me. So Apple.
Daddy. Tim Cook.
We've wanted to get into Daddy's.
We did. Tim Cook.
He's kind of hot. Hey.
How you doing? I like a silver daddy.
Oh, fucking Anderson Cooper. Baby Baby Anderson Cooper and
his. My life.
I love Anderson Cooper. Hell yeah.

(22:26):
Wow. Absolutely.
That's all I got to say. Wow.
Anyways. And This is why we don't like
Vincent Boone. I'm just kidding.
Wow. I'll.
Be honest. Oh yeah, back to Vincent Boone.
Like his first couple of songs that he like got famous.
For bad music, let's get that out of the way.
It's not bad music. I feel like he doesn't make

(22:47):
music because he wants to make music.
I feel like he makes music because he wants to be famous.
I do feel like, and especially since his album has been
announced in the album art, it feels a little disingenuous.
Like it's not. It feels very like it.
Feels very put on PR tested, marketable and that's what I put
in my notes because he did get, he did blow up because of TikTok

(23:10):
as a lot of people do. But I feel like the music
industry just uses TikTok to, you know?
Literally one of my to. Screen test potential Star talk.
Is one of my bullet. Points and if you blow up on
TikTok then the music industry is like all right, we'll see
what happens. We'll we'll take a.
Change my bullet point is literally like how do you feel
about the fact that TikTok is kind of ruined like single
releases and album releases because now it's like, oh I'm

(23:32):
not even going to drop the song unless I have this many TikTok
followers or this many likes songs on the teaser and it's not
it's. Dumb on the artist.
Not the artist saying that though, it's the label making.
It's some of them singer songwriters too.
Some of them singer songwriters are like, here's my cover,
here's my sample. But when I get 14,000 followers

(23:52):
I'll release it on sound. It was annoying when it was up
and coming artist, but I noticedthat cemented artists who do
have a proven. Track Katy Perry.
Are are being forced to pretend to tease songs.
And these are some of these artists that have been forced to
like, oh, I have to get this many TikTok likes are people

(24:12):
who, you know, they have a trackrecord.
You know that they are going to sell singles.
People are going to stream theirmusic.
Why are you making them beg for TikTok followers and likes?
And especially when you know, hell, it might go away again.
Who knows What the fuck is happening with tik.
T.O.K you shouldn't place that much faith in anyone they're.
Putting a lot of eggs in one basket, as my granny would say.

(24:36):
Yeah, it's really fucked up the release cycle.
It makes me feel like it. And and it's also changed the
way music like sounds. And you can see it at some
concerts where people only know the 30 seconds that went viral
on TikTok. They don't know the whole song.
Bring back listening to the whole song.
And but it's also it's made songs shorter.

(24:56):
It's made them more repetitive and it got rid of one of my
favorite parts of a song, which is a good bridge.
Bring back bridges. They just write that down.
We got to bring back. What is it?
Bring back fishnets. Bring back.
Bring back fishnets. Bring back fishnets in drag,
Bring back bridges in music. I I feel like every other
episode I'd say bring back something.
And bring back good marinara with the mozzarella sticks at

(25:19):
the restaurant. I don't want this.
Just bring back marinara sticks.Being at every restaurant, bring
or marinara sticks. Wow.
I heard I really said that. Yeah, I heard what you did.
I'm so passionate about mozzarella, I can't even get it
out of my mouth correctly. I Yeah, bring back mozzarella
sticks. Period.
And that's why I'm running for president.
Bring back mozzarella. Sticks, I don't want to go to

(25:40):
Chile so bad no, but music industry plants, I guess is our
hot takes, but just. Like kind of how fucked up the
music industry has gotten because of plants.
Because of TikTok, that part it feels.
Inauthentic. Oh, the last like whole, like
I'd say like almost five years of music.
It's beginning to, I don't know.I'm like, where is the good

(26:00):
music gone? Yeah, and it's crazy too because
I both feel this way, but I alsofeel like TikTok has shown me so
many up and coming artists I never would have heard of.
Before now that is that it is a double edged sword because some
people who literally where nobodies yeah blew up overnight
because their song yeah hit you know just the right amount of

(26:20):
views on TikTok. So that algorithm was.
Like, and I do hate that a lot of people still end up signing
with labels when it's easier than ever to be an independent
artist. And I do.
I get the appeal of the stability of having a record
label, but also like, I just don't trust somebody.
Here's why you shouldn't trust arecord label.
Because a record label is not a record label.

(26:40):
They are a bank, Yeah, loaning you money.
Yes, they'll pay for your album to be as an advance.
They'll pay for your tour. You got to pay all that shit
back. Yep, Yep.
You don't get to keep that money.
Yeah. And that's.
Why? And they control the kind of
music you release and they'll tell you you can't release.
When we when we used to talk about music in class and being a

(27:01):
recording artist and a star and everything like that, I was
like, these these music people do not have your best interests
at heart. They're trying to make money off
of you. Yeah, I was like, that's how
that works. I was like, it's not about
making great music and releasinggood.
Things that they think are goingto sell you're.
Shiny and pretty. They're going to sell you and

(27:21):
make money off of you. That's why Vincent Boone is so
popular. Which is, I mean, it's crazy
'cause you've seen, I mean, Lordsigned with a record label and
she was like 10 or 12 and they were, you know.
Chapel ROMs tried. They were, and then they kicked
her off and. They were, well, they were
raising Lord, they were like, you know, giving her classes.
They were, you know, and whatever.
But then when she wanted to put on music, they were like, we

(27:42):
don't like this sound. So she literally leaked Royals
on her Tumblr and guess what? It popped, fucking blew up and
put her on the map 'cause it wassomething nobody had ever heard
something like that before. And that's what people they
want. They want something unique and
authentic, not because for me, Ifeel like, and it's not just,

(28:03):
I'm not just trying to hate on Benson Boone, but he's just my
example for today. I could talk about Sabrina
Carpenter too. We can go there if we can,
absolutely. But I feel like Benson is like,
copying people too much. Yeah, like everybody's like, Oh
my God, it's this generation. It's Freddie Mercury.
That's. The thing is, if I mimic these
greats just enough, people will.I will get continue to be able

(28:26):
to put stuff out and people willstill book me to do.
That. But he's not, you know,
generation's Freddie Mercury. Well, and that's where you know,
that's where it definitely grow.His music exactly, yeah.
I mean, I definitely, that's definitely, I would be like the
biggest difference between like Benson Bin and like Chapel Roan.
Chapel Roan has been doing on music for like 10 years.

(28:47):
There are literally videos of her ten years ago in a park
performing for, you know, fucking 1015 people, which is a
lot of artists. I mean, do that.
I mean, Ke$ha used to be a songwriter.
Fucking Lady Gaga used to go to the.
Bar, Yeah, she wrote for, I mean, yeah, in dive bars or
whatever. I mean, there's a when.
I mean, she was a songwriter first too.

(29:07):
So like, I mean, she wrote songsfor Britney Spears.
She wrote Quicksand for Britney Spears, for the boys.
I think it's new Kids on the Block, New Kids on the block.
I think she wrote a song for Fergie.
She wrote a song for the Pussy Song, actually, for The Pussycat
Dolls. Yeah.
Like, And Ke$ha did the same thing.
Ke$ha wrote. I mean, Ke$ha is the backing

(29:28):
vocals for Florida's version of Right Round, and she's not
credited because she was just a songwriter.
So they pulled her in the studioand they're like, do these
backing vocals. That song blew up.
And she just got paid her regular, like, day rate for
being in the studio as a songwriter.
And Florida made a bunch of fucking money off that song.
Yeah, I guess just my, my big. My beef I guess is with the

(29:51):
music industry as of late, not really anyone particular artist.
Has to be so like they only wantthe things that are so watered
down and marketable. It's too over processed in my
opinion. Like it is so heavily
computerized to the point. And it's affecting artists who

(30:13):
should have control, like Katy Perry, who is a big enough name
she should have control over what she comes out with.
But she lets her label dictate what she's saying and doing in
the contract. And so that's why her music
sounds the way it sounds, because she doesn't.
And I'm so thankful that Beyoncéand Gaga are not doing that.

(30:35):
They're doing their own thing, which, I mean, Beyoncé can do
whatever she wants because she is on.
Yeah, she's a part owner of her record label.
She's with Jay-Z record. Label.
And that's how you do it. Exactly.
Snoop Dogg bought his record label and said fuck yeah.
And I wish Gaga would self publish.
She has the resources. She could do it.
Yeah, what I think it is, is that she has a multi record deal

(30:57):
with Interscope and she has to fulfil that.
And when she does, I think she'll switch to
self-publishing. I mean, at this rate for her,
that would be the smartest thingto do.
Oh. Yeah, I mean, she she can
absolutely do whatever she wantsand the only thing holding her
back or telling her no is going to be her label.
And she could still get sponsorsto help pay for.

(31:18):
Shit. Oh, absolutely.
I mean, she already, you know, is doing that.
All celebrities are doing that. That's because you make the
money from the brand deals, not necessarily from what the.
That's what I do. That's what I kept telling my
students. I was like, you think they make
money off them? Ticket sales, honey, they are
paying their record label back from those.
Ticket sales, once you pay for everything for your tour, the
artist doesn't really, I mean, Gaga and Beyoncé, I was like

(31:41):
some money. They're happy that you bought
that merch at their concert because that's where they
probably got the most percent oftheir money is when you bought
merch. Yep.
That right? Ticket sales get eaten up.
They go to Live Nation, they go to Ticketmaster, they go to the
venue. Just about to say, do you know
how much it cost to host on Ticketmaster alone at these big

(32:04):
Coliseum Stadium venues like that?
And the venues require deposits to secure the date for these big
arena tours. So the record label.
And then when you have people. If you have like like Live
Nation, that's what Live Nation does is Live Nation, they will
provide the funding to start a tour.
So Live Nation is giving MadisonSquare Garden like $20,000

(32:26):
upfront. You know, which is why artists
don't, they get sick and they hurt themselves because they
don't want to cancel the date because then they are probably
responsible for that $20,000 Live Nation.
Schedule like you said so because you know, and then all
these like I kept telling students like you have to think

(32:47):
about all the people they have to pay to make this.
Concert, I mean, Taylor Swift, what was it like 74 semi trucks
for the Eras tour? I'm going to look.
I'm going to look it up. I am fairly certain it was so
many semi trucks, an asinine number.
I want to know this number so I hope Eras tour How many semi
semi trucks? How many semis did it take?

(33:08):
Spells Eras Tour semi Trucks 50 to 90 semi.
Trucks we have to transport the stage, the props, all of the
they, the equipment. They have their own AV that they
set up. They have their own light they
set up. Those normally have pyrotech,
usually those really. Big tours will sometimes have
duplicates of the stage. So like the Born This Way ball,

(33:30):
there were two castles because that was a fully the castle like
opened up and rotated. It was a it was at the time the
Born This Way ball was the largest touring set that had
been created in recorded history.
Which sucks that that tour got cancelled.
Fucking COVID had tickets. That wasn't COVID.
The Born This Way ball was when she broke her hip.
Oh yeah, she had that. Surgery.

(33:51):
Yeah, I was one of the cancelledtour dates.
I think Aaron was cancelled, yeah, too for that.
It fucking sucked anyways, but now it was a massive set.
Huge interactive rotating castlethat had parts that opened up.
So there were two of them. There was the one being set up
and used for for the tour, and then there was the one being
broken down and taken to the next day.

(34:13):
That's something also that that's the tour.
On. Broadway production, if they're
a big enough yes. Yeah.
So I'm fairly certain Taylor probably had.
But that's also why because the Taylor the Air store was such a
big production. That's why she only did
weekends. She'd do Friday, Saturday,
Sunday because it would take 2. Days.
Move it to. Break it down and load it up and

(34:34):
then take it to the next place. There's no way some of the
obviously smaller productions they can do load in load out in
the same day. Not the Eras Tour.
These not. Travelling Broadyonce is doing
the. Same thing I think Beyoncé is
doing. Like mostly.
Like 16 hours. So it's wild if a travelling
Broadway show takes 12 to 16 hours and it's the Eras Tour and
it's in a tiny theater. Yeah, imagine a giant The State

(34:59):
Farmer Arena getting set up withspeakers, a stage, lights.
Stages that sometimes can move and open up and.
Doors that you fall down or, or a lift that brings you down or
something like that. You know that happens a lot.
All of the like the, the LED, like the TV walls and stuff,

(35:19):
they have to test all of that too.
And it's a lot of those disassemble, so they have to.
Yeah, it's crazy. The manpower it takes to make
any of that happen is sight. And that's what my husband does.
It's crazy. We stayed.
Long enough when Gaga did the Chromatica tour, we stayed long
enough just talking to friends in the stadium.

(35:41):
They, I'm not kidding, less than30 minutes after Gaga was
another set. There were dozens of people and
they were taking that bitch apart.
Once it's once backstage is clear and they get the all clear
that stage. They got hurt on that bus and
they said tear it down. And they probably started taking
it down. What midnight?

(36:01):
I've it was. It was so fast.
Something like that. And then?
And then they were done by 8:00 AM.
And they, the venue also was like, there was a point where we
were there long enough that the,the venue was like, you have to
leave. You need to to be out of the,
you need to be out of the stadium.
Not to make an announcement telling you to leave.
No, no. A person came up was like you
need to leave. So sorry, dear.
Yeah, you don't have to go home,but you can't stay.

(36:22):
Literally. Yeah, it was crazy.
That's hilarious. Yeah.
Very efficient. Very.
And also kudos. Gaga started like, on time,
apparently. On time drag.
Gaga does on time drag. Apparently, Beyoncé is starting
early. Work.
I love that. Apparently, of course.
She has I am not a spring chicken.
I got 8. Kids, of course she has openers

(36:44):
or whatever for her show. See.
Gaga didn't have any openers for.
Chromatica. I think Beyoncé's concert
started like 6 or 7 or whatever.I think it's six.
That's. So early I think Chromatica.
Was a game, 'cause like the Reddit things that I've been
seeing is like Beyoncé walks on that stage at like 7/27/28 and
she's really not supposed to go on until like 8 technically, You

(37:06):
know, Bitch said let's go, I'm ready.
We need to bring back bring backon time concerts.
Well, and like, everybody's already there.
The energy's already up. Like your opener just got done.
Nobody wants to be out that late.
No. Not for a regular ass concert.
And especially like some like obviously like Taylor Swift and
Beyoncé are are so big, they're only doing like the weekend

(37:27):
dates because they're all of thetravel and whatever.
But like a normal concert, like sometimes you're going to a
concert on like a Tuesday, you don't want to get home from the
concert at 3:00 AM because the artist didn't start until 11:30.
That part. It's unprofessional.
That's the one thing I loved about when we went to Nashville
to watch Z Machine and Jordy andwe didn't know that.

(37:48):
What's his name? The cute 1 Grant Noke?
Yeah, him. Yeah.
We didn't know he was going to be there.
Yeah. He was like a surprise extra or
whatever. They started, baby.
They started that shit on time. It's nice.
And I was here for it. I was like, I love on time.
Well, I mean, we've tried to do that with our shows because I
mean, there used to be a time. To train them.
Start times were a suggestion and we.

(38:09):
Say start time is 10 and we don't start the show till 10:30,
then they won't show up till 10:30.
We got to get them trained. We.
Do on time drag. Yeah, baby, I got to go home.
Yeah. If I don't start the show till
10:30, we're not going to be done till 1.
Yeah, nobody wants that the nextday.
Nobody wants that. Yeah.
Any other hot takes on our musicindustry?
We didn't. Really talk.
About Sabrina that much? But I, I mean, we can or

(38:31):
whatever, I definitely, I want to give whoever's behind her
transformation kudos because shedid go from a Disney Channel
star to like. Pop sensation.
She just appeared for a couple years and that's, I mean, she
had a That's hard to do. It doesn't always work.
No. So, and I love her to death, but
an example of it not working is Dove Cameron.

(38:52):
Yeah, 'cause she tried to do thesame thing.
And she is still trying to make music.
It just doesn't. It's not.
She hasn't. Dove's music is.
Great. Yeah, but I think it's a sound
that people have heard before and they're not running to.
It and it's definitely not for lack of talent.
She is talented. Oh no, she's she's.

(39:12):
Been I don't know if you've seenShmiga Dune on Apple TV.
Why are you cussing at me? I stupid.
It's a show called Shmiga Dune on Apple TV Plus that is about,
it's about the first season. It's about this couple.
They go on like a camping retreat because it's like, it's

(39:33):
like a couple's counseling. They fall into a fantasy world
that is like a real life musical.
And they're stuck in this littletown that's a musical.
And one of the main people that lives in the town is played by
Duff Cameron. Yeah.
I'm glad she's. Got work.
It only got two seasons. It's supposed to have I think 3
and Apple TV cancelled it. But each season is inspired by

(39:54):
like a genre of musicals. So Season 1 is sort of like a
what's that one with All the children and The Hills will come
Alive, Sound of Music that that that.
What's that one with all the children and the hills would
come alive A doe A. Deer.

(40:16):
Oh dear, I don't know the song. Any other hot takes before we
take a break? No, I think that's all I've got.
Oh, I do want to. How do you feel this isn't
related to like industry funds, but how do you feel about art,
like bigger artists? I mean, I we talked about Katy
Perry, but like, how do you feelabout people that feel like they
don't even really care about putting out good music anymore?
My first thing that came to mindwas actually Jlo.

(40:42):
Like she's not an industry plant, but like so but she puts
out music and it just feels she's one of those artists that
has rumours that like does she even sing her own music?
I. Am one of the people that fully
believes Jlo does not sing her own music.
I can, I mean I can see it. I'm not enough of AJ Lo fan to

(41:05):
like. There have been, there have been
like moments where I think like her track has cut out when she's
been like performing or whateverand then she's like tried to
sing it or no, it's not even thesame voice, you know?
I and maybe with her earlier stuff she was singing, but.

(41:25):
I well and that goes back to be everything being overproduced
and auto tuned and the computer taking over everything, you
know. There's just no soul in it.
That bring back real instrumentsbecause I as as a music person,
I can tell when you've recorded a track with nothing but
computer generated instruments versus a live band was in a

(41:49):
studio and and laid that track. Down and listen.
Sometimes there is a place for it, obviously, like there are
genres of music that right, but like in general we've gotten
really complacent with. Like they don't even have a real
drum kit on that's. The thing is not only.
Like it's all computer. It's all recorded on the
computer and then when people tour, nobody tours the live band

(42:10):
anymore. Bring back live bands.
Can bring back live bands. Yeah.
I'm. Yeah.
That's all I'm going to say before I go eat my chicken
wings. I know.
All right, I guess let's take a break.
Let's take a break. We'll be right back.
I'll turn the. I have bad news.
Killa is almost exclusively digital.
I mean, I know that, yeah, but it it works.

(42:31):
And she worked with a DJ and producer specifically.
I guess I'll pull my microphone.I know I.
Was gonna like drop that and leave.
No, I sometimes it works, but also there are.
Examples where it works and. Gaga used to tour with a live
band and she really believes in like, live music.
Where's ARTPOP 2.0? I it is.

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Well, I think it's bad for the environment now, so they have to
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Yeah, anyways, we're back from eating chicken wings.

(45:01):
Welcome back from the break. We left it, we talked about Drag
Race, we talked about the music industry, and now it's time for
a good old work hit or tuck. It a good old fashioned random
ass. Work it or tuck it.
Oh, there surely is not a theme.You want to go first?
You want me to? Go fast, I can go first.
Hit it. This is truly left field work.

(45:26):
Hit or tuck it. How do you feel about pre
packaged or Jarred? This is we're going to umbrella
it dips, pasta sauces or salsas.Like are you a fresh or jar?
Girl that is. That's not even left field.
That is the parking lot across the street at the gas station.
Believe it or not, this is inspired.

(45:48):
I had an entire conversation with buttons about Jarred pasta
sauce. Really.
Yes, and that's what inspired this.
OK, so if pasta sauce, if I'm making my own pasta, I'm making
my own sauce. You make your own pasta.
Well, she's a chef. We made it up in the kitchen.
Listen, I like it fresh. I'm not buying Jarred Alfredo

(46:13):
sauce because mine's better, allright?
I'm not. If I do buy a Jarred marinara
sauce, it's like Rouse or some like brand specific.
It is brand specific and I'm spending like 10 to $12.00 on it
because I want it to be good. You know?
I love so very much. In the Costco section they

(46:40):
already have your pre made dips of Buffalo chicken dip, your
spinach artichoke dip, your all those pre made dips.
I am here for it because who hastime?
Yeah, I've never and. It's gonna taste the same at the
end of the day. I definitely have bigger
feelings about pasta sauce than like a dip.

(47:02):
I don't think I've ever eaten a from scratch dip and really been
like, oh wow, you know what I mean?
Like. I think I tried to.
Make dip as French onion dip. That part, I think I tried to
make a spinach Alfredo dip from scratch one time and I was like,
this tastes the same as the Costco jar, so why don't I just
buy the Costco jar? Yeah, yeah, it's that it?

(47:22):
Yeah, yeah, I work it for sure, but I'm going to pay.
You got to get. Good shit, I'm not.
I'm not buying the dollar 25 Yeah hunts in a can and.
Sometimes, sometimes the like the cheaper or like the store
brand works out like I actually like.

(47:42):
I don't. If you throw enough Italian
seasoning in it, it'll be fun. Yeah, well, and there there is
also the difference, but wow, yeah, 'cause I, I sure, I sure
do add seasonings to anything that.
Comes and I hope everybody. Else does, but like I will say
this is a different like becauseKroger has both like Kroger
brand and then private selection, which is sort of like

(48:05):
a private it's still Kroger brand, but it's like it's.
Like a bump up. Yeah, and some of their like,
pasta sauces are actually kind of nice.
I mean, and they cost more than the one that just says Kroger,
but it's cute and it's not as much as the name brands.
So I've done that in a pinch andI but like, sometimes it doesn't
work out. Like I don't like Kroger salsa.

(48:26):
Like I gotta buy even if it's like Tostitos, which obviously
Tostitos is not like authentic, but like I would rather get a
jar of just like Tostitos restaurant salsa over the Kroger
brand. Even though the Kroger's
cheaper, it's not. It's not good.
No, I'm, I'm, I'm here for a prepackaged moment.
I'm going to. Have to get a treat on my way
home, especially with ice cream.All of y'all bitches come over

(48:46):
at the pool. You think I'm making all them
dips by hand? No, no baby, that is Costco
prepackaged. Thank you.
I put it in the pan to make it look cute.
You're welcome. Stupid, stupid.
And I think the last couple times we've done like a hangout,
I just bring like a 12 pack of white clothes and I'm like
that's my contribute. I don't even, that's all we
need. I'm not even trying.
I don't. We need to figure out what we're

(49:08):
going to eat after Pride anyway.Work it or tuck it.
Because this happened a surprising amount of times while
we were in New York even like inthe subway.
And I'm like, how are you doing this in the subway using a
speakerphone in public? Talk it immediately.
I've never been a fan. I don't.

(49:30):
I just don't get it. I was raised to not make all
that noise. In public.
Considerate. Yeah, now I'll one up you.
How do you feel about people fucking face timing in the
middle of Walmart? What the fuck is that?
You got unlimited data and you let it go straight to your head.
Unless you're like. Unless you need help looking for
something. Yeah, Which Aaron has done that

(49:51):
a time or two. Aaron has Facetimed me and be
like I'm looking but I don't see.
It no just a regular ass conversation.
But just like walking around, like just chit chatting with
their friend on FaceTime in Walmart.
No, tuck that shit. Yeah, no, unless you're having a
very juicy conversation. Yeah, then I'm going to start
following you around Walmart so I can know what happens because

(50:14):
now you've gotten both parties. This is our.
Story. This is everybody's story and I
need to know what happens. I just.
No, tuck it. Like why are you so
inconsiderate? Put a headphone in.
Put your Airpod in something I don't.
Even like it when people talk into the Airpods if you need to
have. I guess I just don't want to

(50:36):
have a conversation while I'm inthe middle of the grocery store.
One up, one up, your one up. Oh God, how do you one up
annoying Facetimes in the grocery store?
When we went to lunch, no, we didn't go to lunch because we
had we had a brunch before we left and then we went and got a
little dessert treat before we went and got on the plane.
When we went to get our dessert,this man was sitting in a

(51:00):
restaurant, laptop open on a Zoom call, literally having a
work meeting in a restaurant. And like, one of the most
touristy restaurants. Yeah.
In New York. Juniors.
Yeah, one of the most. Touristy restaurants.
You're not like, in a nook somewhere where it's Wyatt nor

(51:20):
Yeah. Like a whole fucking baseball
team came in behind us. Yeah, to get SAT like it's not
Wyatt in there. Yeah.
Why are you here doing your Zoom?
Go to a fucking coffee shop. I first of all, you want to talk
about some stories. I have had so many people come

(51:41):
in and do Zoom calls or really loud phone calls or meetings or
whatever, some of which these people are talking.
So I'm like, you know, like. We all can hear.
You are the loudest person in the cafe.
You are in public. We can hear you at the bar
talking about your life. It's wild, the things that
people. And why are you in public?
Why are you in public doing yourbetter health appointment?

(52:04):
It's wild home, so not. Only do we have like the zoom
calls and stuff. I have had on more than one
occasion somebody come in with adesktop computer and monitor and
set up shut yes the fuck yes several times and play.
Video games. Dell Desktop.
Like a tower and a monitor, a keyboard and a mouse Yeah, a

(52:24):
surge protector to plug it all into to plug it into the wall.
Yeah, absolutely. I have not yes.
I have not seen that in a coupleyears, but I have seen it the.
That's fucking I. Haven't seen anything recently.
I will say like 2 football seasons ago and I never got to
figure out what this was for like 10 minutes before close.

(52:45):
This guy came in and got a coffee and he was in the process
of setting up a 32 inch like Fire TV plugged into the wall of
the cafe and on one of the coffee tables.
Like he was about to watch of the football game or something
on this little TV. But he didn't show up until like
15 minutes or 10 minutes before we close.

(53:06):
So like, we, you know, make us cover whatever, and then he's in
the cafe plugging things in and like getting his TV going and
we're like, hey, just a heads up, guys, be close in 10
minutes. I never got to figure out what
he was going to watch, probably.The football.
Game a whole TV, not a big TV, but like he had a whole like
smart TV that he was plugging in.
He was going Jesus connect to the Wi-Fi and watch something I

(53:28):
guess. Yes he was.
That's why absolutely he was. That's fucking hilarious.
I just, that's one of those things that sometimes I think
I'm like, what was he going to do?
I know. But unless you have a juicy
story that you are sharing with somebody, please don't be on
speakerphone in public. I don't have time for it.
I just don't. It's a delta moment.

(53:49):
And they're all, they're all so loud.
And and then you're you're trying to like check out.
Why are you screaming? It's a microphone built into
this. Just talk.
Yeah, this. Can't be an important
conversation because you're not acting.
Because you're in public, everybody can hear you.
You over here talking about somebody owes you money.
And then I'd be like, I gotta pay.

(54:10):
Wait is and then you don't hang up.
You just put the phone down. You just put the phone down and
then go about your transaction. I hate it.
I hate it. We, I, I don't talk to people
that are on the phone if they come up to the counter at the
coffee. Shop.
I wouldn't either. I wait for them to put the phone
down and I will say it is becoming more common for them to
not hang up. I.
Wouldn't even say hey, I would just stare at them.
No, I do. Yeah.

(54:31):
Or I go do something else and wait for them to like,
acknowledge me as you should. I hate.
If you think you're. So important that you can't put
your phone down for 30 seconds to tell me you want a medium
black. Coffee The worst thing about
COVID was people forgot how to act in public.
It's they literally forgot how to fucking act in public.
And I'm like, what is wrong withyou?

(54:51):
You are sharing. Yeah, this space, like everyone
has main character syndrome now,everyone.
Everyone, I'm like this. This show is not about you.
Yeah. Some of us are just trying to
run our errands, like I'm just trying to go to the bank.
I'm just trying to go home, likeget out of my way.
Yeah, move. Wild.
Oh my God. What's your name?
Let's see what my next it's gonna be.

(55:13):
Who can I even read this? How do we feel worker to Chuck
it? Drag performers with side
hustles like oh, I also make wigs, I do nails, I do hair, I
do mixes. It's smart.
It is smart. It's 100% smart have.
You had any bad experiences withthose girls?
Though thankfully, knock on wood, I have not had any bad
experiences with the girls that have the side hustles.

(55:35):
All right. Everybody that I have
commissioned an outfit from or awig from or a mix from has come
through and done what I asked them to.
Do give me those names? Well, honestly, Dakota's really
the only one that does hair for me.
If I don't do it by myself, 9 times out of 10 I just do it
myself 'cause I wait till the last minute.

(55:57):
It's not 'cause I'm good at it, it's 'cause I don't plan.
So a lot of the times I have to do it.
But if I plan and I know that I need something done, I'll, I'll
put, I'm not, I'll pay Dakota todo it.
I don't give a damn. And then if I need a mix done,
Biscuit can have that shit knocked out in a day.

(56:18):
That's really the way to do it though, is to find like, like
friends and people you work withto do it.
How do you feel about some of the prices some of these people
charge that you see on like Facebook?
Listen, you've seen some of the things that we have shared in
the group. As an artist, I'm very much a
charge. What you think you're worth?

(56:38):
But if that wig you are trying to sell looks like a rat's nest.
And you're asking $100 for it? Not even 100, 202. 5275 nobody
posts a style wig for like 150 anymore.
Nope. 300 or +300 or plus and sometimes the styles are not
worth 300 or plus. Maybe you just put some TS and a

(57:01):
curl in that? Yes, that's it.
Yes, that's that's $125.00 wig. Your time was not worth that
much. And also, can we talk about why
drag performers are scamming other drag performers?
It's why. Why are you stealing from your?

(57:22):
Own people. You would be so mad if you
reached out to somebody and theydecided to take $400.00 from you
and not give you a costume, but you're out here regularly doing
it. Literally some people, their
career is literally like I post fake things that I make and then
take people's, well, I know who you, I know exactly who you're
thinking. Exactly who you're thinking I

(57:43):
shall be quiet redacted. She don't listen to this podcast
now. No, but tuck it like fuck you.
Why? It's wild.
The prices are wild, the scams are wild, and it honestly it
discourages me from getting custom things made because I
can't trust the things I see on the Internet to be real.

(58:05):
Literally like you said, charge what you think you're worth but
like don't let the delusion price you out of a sale.
Also, unfortunately, and this isI will say I overthink a lot of
things and I'm not saying I do everything right as a small
business owner, but I do own twosmall businesses.
Three if you consider the drag as its own entity, cuz it sort

(58:25):
of is in a lot of ways. Some of the business practices
some of these people have are crazy, Like the weird ways you
have to communicate with them, the fact that like, they have no
information available about likeyou want to say that you're a
business and like the only way Ican figure anything out about
what you do. Is your Facebook page.

(58:47):
Yeah, to hope that you answer your DMS.
No, thanks. You have no portfolio.
You don't have like styles available.
You don't have even like. Red flag after red flag after
red flag. I don't want to do business with
you. And some, but some of these
people make like they they are like popular and the only way

(59:08):
that they operate is through Facebook posts.
They'll never get my business. It's wild.
It's. Wild business I had one time.
I'm not going to pull up any names because they are a big
reputable brand. Redact.
I paid. I paid for a costume and I paid
on PayPal. I have a business PayPal account

(59:29):
because again, I'm a business. So all of my payment things are
real, real business. No, they're real business
accounts. And that does mean that I pay
processing fees. And this person rejected it and
said that I needed to send it aspersonal because they didn't
want to pay process. It's like maybe you're a

(59:50):
business. If you don't want to pay taxes
on the $400.00 costume, you shouldn't be a business.
If I can go to a website and buyit from your website, I am more
inclined to do that. It feels like Rocks Rocks by Cox
where I buy all my jewelry, I buy all of well most of my

(01:00:11):
jewelry I buy through her website and if I need something
custom made. She makes it, puts it on her
website hidden just for me, gives me the link and then I go
to the link on her website and buy the jewelry there.
The in her early days I think I did Venmo her a couple of times,
but then when she got that website.
When you're just getting started, you have to deal with

(01:00:32):
what you got. But you know, she's friend of a
friend, so I trust her and I know that she's going to make.
But a stranger asking me for $400.00 for a costume or $300.00
for a. Week and spending $80.00 on some
jewelry is a little bit different than spending two,
three, $400.00 on some hair in acostume.
You know, it's still 80 bucks, but at least it's not hundreds

(01:00:52):
of dollars. You know I'm here work it for
our drag family, doing their side hustles and making their
money. I can't style hair.
Really. But don't be so when I am in our
family now, it's wild and some people out there, some of you
are not charging enough money like you are making whole ass

(01:01:13):
garments danity that you're onlycharging $200 for when really
you should be charging $500. It is a fully boned dress with
embellishings like it's done. It's a ready to wear garment.
That's a $500 dress I have. In my opinion, that's a $500.

(01:01:34):
Dress for simpler costumes than that.
That specific dress she is undercharging for that green dress.
Work it or tuck it. I already know the answer to
this. Great, but work it or tuck it.
Happy hour. I love happy hour.
I moved my schedule around and thankfully you were available
early yesterday so that we coulddo happy.

(01:01:54):
Hour I thought I thought about doing it today and I was like
wait, we have to record the pod,we can't do it.
That would be. The second time, you've almost
scheduled happy hour on a recording day.
Because we listeners. I love a discounted.
Beverage. The misfits like to get together
at least once a week, once everyother week to do a little happy
hour. Yeah.
Extravaganza. We like to sit down together and

(01:02:17):
Kiki and hang out and have some beverages and some half price
appetizer. Yeah, it's cute.
We're not going to tell you where we go because we don't.
Want you to don't. Don't blow it.
Up. We don't want you to blow it up
and to. I don't know, I feel like a lot
of like happy hour deals aren't even that good anymore.
So when you find a place that does have good happy hour, we
got to keep our secret. Absolutely.
Yeah, because then too many bitches will be there and I

(01:02:38):
won't be able to get a table andI'll be pissed.
Well, we get there when they open.
No, get a table. So it's funny.
Yeah. When we're there when happy hour
starts, yeah, we're those, we'rethose people.
We're also the people that 2 minutes to the end of happy hour
are flagging on the bartender like one more round.
One more round. Yeah, put that in before.
Because you know, the computers they automatically like get to

(01:02:59):
all the prices. Yeah, so OK, T about the happy
hour, though. If happy hour runs out, the
regular drinks are only $0.50 more.
I Yeah. So yeah, if we had to get yeah,
one more not on happy hour, it'sjust 50.
More and I've done it. But those half price appetizers
cannot be beat. Yeah, love a happy hour.

(01:03:23):
Work it. Work.
A happy hour I love a discountedbeverage.
I am. I'm a business woman.
I love a good deal. I love a good.
Deal love a good deal. Yeah, another.
We're just going a full different direction work under
tucket. Pro shots next to normal just
came out on PBS. OK, Yeah, I haven't seen it yet,

(01:03:45):
but I mean, I've seen next to normal, but I haven't seen a pro
shot. How do we feel about pro shots?
I don't. Even feel about.
This a a professionally recordedplay.
Yeah, like a Broadway pro shots.Not this, the next one almost
from West End, but how do we feel about accessibility to see
a play instead of having to fly to New York to see a show?
Didn't they try that during the Pangea?

(01:04:07):
There are a lot of pro shots that were filmed for the
pandemic, like that's when Ham Well, Hamilton was recorded
before the pandemic, but they released it during the pandemic.
I like that they want to record the actual theater and
especially because some plays that even if they've been turned
into a movie or if there's talksabout making them a movie,
sometimes the format doesn't work.

(01:04:30):
So like we just had we just had Hates Town at the Hades Town in
my opinion, can't be a movie. You can't I would agree.
You can't take it and put it in a fantasy universe with the CGI
and the special effects like Wicked.
That works. That works Wicked.
They fleshed out the universe. It makes sense.
The CGI holds up. The practical effects are great.

(01:04:50):
But Haides Town is staged and blocked and performed in such a
way that the stage is part of the show.
You can't turn that into a movie.
It would remove some of the element of the the origin of the
play. I'm here for a pro.
Shot. So I'd rather a pro shot work.
Also, a lot of people can't makeit to New York, so.

(01:05:11):
And even if they can't make it to New York, a lot of people
also can't watch a a traveling show.
Yes, like sometimes even those traveling shows are hundreds of
dollars of. Tickets.
I know because I was Wicked is coming to the BGCC in Birmingham
in August and I. Am thinking about it.
We just watched it in Atlanta last year, so.
I think we'll pass. No, I missed it because Connor

(01:05:32):
and I looked at the prices and we were like, so we're we're
going to we're going to pray about.
I would love to see it but because I'm never going to make
it to new. York I'm here for a pro shot
because I think that could really encourage younger
audiences should be involved with theater.
Yeah, because because Broadway can be a little exclusionary.

(01:05:53):
So I wish very classist, absolutely.
Absolutely. But I wish so much sometimes
that I would have known about theater at a younger age and I
feel like I would have maybe taken a different route in my
life. Not saying that I can't go back
into theater right now, obviously I could, but I just

(01:06:17):
feel like I would have planned things a little different.
Yeah, you know what I mean? So I feel like those pro shots
might help encourage a younger generation of thespians.
And expose them to like a type of art that if you are in a
small town that doesn't have a theater like you might not.
Just think about, think about Haiti's.

(01:06:37):
Town, you're not. Going to get showing
productions. You're not going to get, you
might not even really have otherthan like maybe a high school
play and some high school plays.Like the budget is so small
because some high schools don't have a theater.
That part. And so if you have that Internet
connection, you know, I saw a TikTok and somebody was like, it
was some marketing person for Broadway.
And he was like, how do we get people into the theater when

(01:07:02):
they can't look into the theaterand see what's going on?
Yeah. Because, you know, the theater,
the doors are closed. Yeah.
Lights are down. We're watching a show.
Yeah. If you walk by a shop on 5th
Ave. the windows are open. You know exactly what they're
selling. Yeah, you can't see that on
Broadway. Pro shots could help.
Yeah, TikTok. Is really helping.

(01:07:24):
TikTok is really helping and we're getting, you can see even
if they're not professionally recording the entire show,
they're recording bits and and Iwill say Hades.
Town, Can I tell you my conspiracy theory?
Let me tell you my conspiracy. Theory.
And I think it's a conspiracy theory that people could get
behind. I think that death becomes her
Producers are the people in the audience using their iPhones to

(01:07:46):
film the death becomes her. Yeah, and leaking it on TikTok
themselves. To make it go viral.
To make it go viral, to make people talk about it, to make
people come to the show. Because in the past it was very
much taboo to see anything yeah,recorded with a phone.
Well, and you know they quickly would go after you and make you

(01:08:07):
take. It down for some productions
that are still kind of crazy, but there is also a growing,
there's a growing like audience on TikTok of yeah, of people
recording. I mean, I, you see like every
time they like, you know, 'causewe just had Orville Peck just
took over the role of MC on Ray and I was waiting because I knew
at the end of the weekend of hisdebut that I would get, if not

(01:08:30):
video, I would get audio of the production so we could hear his
debut. And guess what we did?
Because they're I think they're doing it on purpose, which
because they need to market their shows and this is the only
way to do. That well and some shows are
doing better than others. Like Wicked has a really good
TikTok presence. Hades Town is what it is because

(01:08:53):
of its TikTok presence. And I think death becomes her is
what it is because of their. Tik Absolutely no.
If you have to put it behind a paywall that's fine, but
release? It it is, but put it up there.
Especially if it's, like we said, a good quality video.
Yeah, yeah, I'm here for pro shots.
What kit? I think we should have more of
them. I think it makes Broadway
accessible. And there's already broadway.com

(01:09:14):
andbroadway.com YouTube channel.What's one more step to have a
broadway.com streaming? And I'm not saying it has to be.
I'll pay $20 dead ass to watch Wicked dead ass, you know,
'cause they're it's unrealistic that I'll make it to New York.
I would pay $20 to watch Death becomes her again.
And it could be like, you know, like when you rent a movie on
iTunes, you only get it for. 28 hours.

(01:09:35):
So then you gotta rent it again.I'll I'm OK.
With that, I would do it, yeah, my last Work it or tuck it.
Oh Lord. I don't know if we've talked
about this before. Work it or tuck it.
Collecting things like do you have a specific item or anything
that you collect? Like I may or may not collect
elephants for some stupid reason.

(01:09:57):
I did not know this. I don't know why I collect
elephants, but I really gravitate to the.
What's the elephant animal? Is it, is it just like anything
with elephants on it? You're just like, if it strikes
your fancy, is it like, OK, so like.
Elephant figurines. Yeah, figurines.
Pillows. OK shower.
Fucking shower curtains. Like I want, I want to get a

(01:10:20):
elephant tattooed on my leg. Like, I don't know.
I like that just I like that yours is just you like the
creature and so you'll get anything.
I have some quite niche things that I collect.
I'm listening. You have opened up a can of
worms and now I get to tell the world about the weird ass things
I collect. The one that doesn't make any

(01:10:41):
sense and, and now I only keep up with it just as like a how
long can I do this? For some reason, when I was in
like late elementary school or middle school, I was like, I
want to collect wine corks. And I had, I had a really big
jar. And if my parents drank anything
that had a cork, I'd be like, give me the cork and that I

(01:11:03):
outgrew that jar and got a bigger jar and that jar is full.
And I have. So you're saving these corks for
anything and there's. A craft project?
There's no it started with potentially a craft.
Project a cork board. And now it's literally just like
how many corks can I amass and when when I say I mean.

(01:11:23):
Now when I crack open a bottle of wine.
If it save me the cork, save me the cork.
No for real. I'm so for.
Real. OK, a lot of my, I'll be honest
with you, a lot of times when I drink wine, it's a screw top.
No, no, I get it. Yeah, no.
Because that's how capitalism isthese days.
But if I am drinking, but. If you encounter, yeah.
And it's not just wine, because I have, you know, some liquors.
Champagne. Some liquors are oh, I have a

(01:11:44):
lot of because I was in a champagne area.
For Oh well, some of my liquors have corks.
And I have some and it's just any if I encounter a cork that's
hilarious, I keep it if I can remember keep it so fucking.
And I have so I have the original.
I have the original cork that mymom gave me in 2. 1000 The
Collection. Which is actually not a wine

(01:12:06):
cork, but actually a cork with like a, like a, like a, you
know, you what, what do you, what are your water, your
plants? That's got a name watering can,
a watering can, but like that sort of spout, but it's on a
cork. So you can put it on something
and you can water stuff with. Yeah.
So she. Gave me that out of her hope
chest. It was like her grandmother's.
And so that is in its own jar byitself because that's like a big

(01:12:29):
deal. Like that's a family thing.
But then I have and the jar thatit's in is my original cork jar
collection jar that I outgrew very quickly.
And so I have a much bigger jar that's full.
I'm so I'm so thrilled. I'm going to send you a picture
when I go. Home, I cannot wait to see your
cork collection. But then I also just have, I
just have like a plastic bucket that's next to my liquor cabinet

(01:12:50):
at home that's full of corks from like the last couple years
for like if Connor gets wine. Or something.
Yeah, fucking funny. The collection is definitely
slowed down because my mom used to be like a heavier wine
drinker and so I was getting a lot of corks and then she
stopped drinking wine as, as as frequently or whatever.
But now I'm it's ramping back upagain because Connor is getting

(01:13:12):
really into wine that. Is so.
I did not know you collected corn.
No, so that's the really dumb one.
That doesn't make any sense. I do however comma have two
other collections that are curated.
I collect teapots. I feel like we've talked about
that. One I the teapot 1 is one that a
lot of people know of because I've been gifted teapots before.

(01:13:34):
One of my teapots, the one that that usually inspires this
conversation. I made a teapot in high school
ceramics. It's ugly.
It did not come out the way my sketch intended.
Ceramics is difficult. Oh, absolutely.
So it didn't come out the way I intended, but I kept it because
it didn't get destroyed in the in the the glazing process or
the. Fire.
It survived the kiln. They don't.

(01:13:57):
They don't survive. I lost pieces because other
people's stuff blew up. None of my stuff, but other
people's stuff got, yeah, was badly made.
No, but I have this teapot that I made in, in 11th grade
ceramics and I, it's not pretty,but like it's, I made it and
it's the biggest thing that I made and, and I'm glad that I
still have it and it's in my curio account.

(01:14:18):
But it's like started a sort of like unofficial teapot thing.
And then people started gifting me teapots, you know, because it
used to just be like, if I was out thrifting and I saw a cool
teapot I'd buy. And now I don't need to thrift
teapots because I am, I'm gifted.
And now it matters more that they like are really cool and
not just like the quantity because it used to be like if it
was just whatever I'd buy it for7 bucks at the store and now it

(01:14:42):
needs to like. A cool design.
A worthy thing of the like. So a designer.
Yeah. Well, in December, Connor and I
were at an antique mall in Florida and we found a teapot
that is a kitten. And the little, the hand, their
little paw outstretched is the is the spout.
Stop. Oh.
And the moment he saw it was like, Oh well, we have to get
that for. Your car?
Absolutely. So that's the most recent one.

(01:15:02):
But yeah, I have, I don't know how many I have, but I do have
it. I have, I'd probably say like
it's like 10 maybe. And they're all in my I have AI
have a China cabinet that Connorbought me.
That is it's all I actually callit more like a cabinet of
curiosities because it's not. It's got my teapots in it, but
it also has a whole bunch of other weird stuff like.
I need a China cabinet. Oh, no, it's great.

(01:15:23):
I love it. It's and it's a big like old
one, like wooden one, not like one of the not like a modern
like. Yeah, no, Well, that's what it I
because I have so many. I love Knick knacks.
I've always loved Knick knacks, so when I saw this tiny cabinet
at a. Because we're old.
Ladies, I know I saw this tiny cabinet at a thrift store and I
was like oh I love this in Connor bought it for me and when
he paid for them to deliver it and everything.

(01:15:45):
Well, what's the third thing youcollect?
So you have court writers? Yes, that's a hard thing to
collect because they are interesting and they take up a
bit of. Space.
They're heavy, too. They are some of them are quite
heavy. I bought my first typewriter
many years ago at an antique store, Wright St.
Antiques in Savannah, GA. It is my favorite antique store.

(01:16:07):
I love it so much. Every time I go there and spend
money I do not have. I bought my film camera from
there too, because they not theydon't they sell like they have
most it's a lot of antiques, butthey also have some like
clothing and also they have theyhave a section of camera
equipment that is literally divided by this is broken and

(01:16:28):
this stuff still works. And the stuff that still works
is like locked away in like a jewelry cabinet.
I love that the they have the broken stuff there like if you
want. It yeah, but I mean some people,
I mean, yeah, some people do tryto fix things or some people,
artists, collectors of like historic like, you know,
technology or whatever. Yeah.
And they do have some old shit in there.
But I have a film camera that I bought from the but I bought my

(01:16:50):
first typewriter from them and it is a 1937 or 1939.
It's hard the older and I can't find the serial number.
But from my research, I did realresearch, it's from 1937 to
1939. So like the beginnings of World
War Two. Yeah, it is a Royal Deluxe quiet
typewriter and it came with a it's a damage travelling case,

(01:17:13):
but it was a travelling like it it came with a case where you
could lock, you can lock the feet of the typewriter into.
I still have the case even though it's damaged.
I don't keep it in the case. Like this is my typewriter that
I have actually like used to type things as functional.
Some of mine I haven't like cleaned or tested, but this one

(01:17:34):
I know works. And so I bought a replacement
ribbon and it's one of those it you can shift the like it's a
dual ribbon, so you can type in black or red or whatever.
The only thing that's wrong withit is it's missing both of its
shift keys. The bar is still there, but the
button is not. So if I ever have dumb money to
throw away and I can find somebody on the Internet that

(01:17:56):
restores typewriters, I'd love them to put the shift keys on
there. But other than that, like you
can, it's still completely functional.
That's crazy. So I have that one from the from
the like late 1930s and that's the one that I used.
I cleaned it up and I use it. I one year I wrote Christmas
letters to everybody on it. That's precious.
It's very loud. I cannot believe it's
advertised. No, it's the model is literally

(01:18:17):
called quiet type and which makes me wonder how loud they
were the. Loud motherfucker.
Royal Deluxe came up with that one so I have that one.
I have one I've never used that my sister gifted me that was a
family heirloom from her husband, his family.
They were cleaning out a barn intheir their family home and they
found it. Now that makes me wonder where

(01:18:39):
my grandparents typewriter went,because I really would love to
just give it to you. Because my granny used to write,
like if she had to write a letter to somebody.
Yeah, typewriter. Yeah, She wasn't handwriting.
Yeah, she was going to sit at her desk on her typewriter.
I love it. No, I have that one And then I
have the. That's so cute.
I have the one that she found that I have never cleaned up or
whatever. I think it's functional.

(01:19:01):
I have another one that I boughtfrom Wright St.
Antiques that is contemporary, so it's from like the mid 70s.
It's electronic. So 'cause they got to a point,
you have to remember that typewriters were used up until
the home computer. Yeah, yeah, 'cause you needed a
way. My parents.
Learned how to type on a typewriter.
The first the first Harry Potterbook was the The Man.
The original manuscript that wassent to the publishers was on a

(01:19:24):
typewriter. 'Cause it was.
Written in 1990, 19941995 and she submitted it and it got
published in 96. Like that was before home
computing was affordable. So yeah.
No, the first Potter book was written computer.
Writer took up an entire room. Yes, and now we hold them in
our. Game but I I bought and I
haven't repaired this one it's in and and this is kind of crazy

(01:19:44):
because you got to a point wherelike the old typewriters have
like those big like round keys. My contemporary typewriter has
like it's a plastic keyboard. It looks just like a keyboard,
but it's a typewriter, but it's electronic.
It's another travel one that comes in a case.
It's much like smaller and actually easier to use.
I have not bought the I need to buy a ribbon for it, but I think
it's it's it was sold dysfunctional.

(01:20:06):
It just needs a ribbon. It probably does well.
Yeah, I really. I know.
Yeah. And I want to.
I've never wanted. I just forgot.
But I need to buy a ribbon and try it out.
And then I have another one thatmy mom bought from a thrift
store that I've never used. It was so dysfunctional, but it
it didn't have a ribbon in it. My mom forgot to buy a ribbon
for it and never used it. And then she was like, I'm never
going to use it. But she knows I collect them.

(01:20:27):
So she gave it to me. And it's also somewhere in my
house. I have four of them.
I've always wanted to collect movie tickets and concert
tickets, but now everything's digital.
I used to do that. And I do have some movie tickets
over the years, but they're not like organized.
Like they end up just in a box. I have a scrapbook that I, I

(01:20:49):
have a scrapbook that I was gifted to me by an ex-girlfriend
from high school work work. And so it's got like all of my
like high school stuff in it, you know, like accolades and
awards and papers and all that. And in there also it has ticket
stubs to concerts that I've beento and movies that I saw that I

(01:21:12):
thought were like premiere at the time or whatever.
So I do have some of those, but I don't really collect them
because, like you said, it's alldigital now.
Yeah. Now one thing that I am starting
to collect again because we've started to go to more shows are
the playbills of the show I. Do keep playbills from every and
and when I say all I mean like Ihave my yes, my quote UN quote

(01:21:35):
Playbill from when I saw Much Ado About Nothing in 11th grade,
my high school production like Ihave it, it's in a box
somewhere, but I I kept my Playbill from much to do.
And I also have started collecting the posters.
Yeah. Because that hallway to the
bathrooms, that's where I like to hang all those posters.

(01:21:58):
But nowadays at Broadway, they don't really sell the posters
for the merch anymore. You got to go online and find
That's weird because used to back in the olden days you could
easily buy a poster from the merch stand signed by the cast.
Haiti, now Haiti town didn't have anything signed, but
Hadestown did have a full merch booth at the door.

(01:22:21):
I love a merch. They had posters, T-shirts,
hats, magnets. So I couldn't stay after Hades
Town. I went to the matinee that they
had because that Tuesday night Ihad rehearsal and then Wednesday
we went to New York. So after the matinee I literally
left at Bao's because I had a Zoom class at 5:00 PM.

(01:22:44):
You're like. I gotta go.
So they started Bow and I was like, yeah, which I might start
doing that now at every production because I didn't
fight any traffic. Yeah, like the bowl started and
I dipped and I was the only person in the parking lot.
It was great. I will say specifically Haiti
Stone. They do bowls and then they

(01:23:04):
actually sing an acapella song. So you miss I missed the
acapella. Yes.
I also missed the stage door. I would have loved to have done
the stage door for Hades. Do they still do that?
I should have stayed for stage door.
Some, sometimes they do. When Hairspray came through,
they did do the stage door. When Patty came through, she did
not do the stage door. I don't know, I'll have to ask.

(01:23:30):
Well, I also like I feel like stage door used to be like a if
you know, you know, and now again because of social.
Media that is also very. And so now a lot of like
celebrities are like, I don't want to do stage door because it
used to be like real fans. And instead now it's just like a
horde of people who are expecting you to be.
There, they did not do stage door.
Death becomes her. Yeah, I'm.

(01:23:51):
I'm sure probably some of the ensemble came out.
Yeah, but if you look on social media, Megan and Jennifer and
Michelle are getting into an SUVin an alleyway and be being
driven away. Oh, I get it.
I get it. I mean, there's those.
You don't. Want to get sick like your
voice? That's your.
That's how you have your job. Even see that with a like like

(01:24:12):
music artist like I, I mean whenHarry Styles did his last tour,
yes you could see him you could literally in some of people's
TikTok. So you could see him do his
final like whatever and you see him run down like a ramp and you
can see the SUV at the end of the ramp.
He does not waste any time. Taylor Swift does the same
thing. He says goodbye, great night and
he gets in cuz he's trying to beat the traffic at the venue.

(01:24:34):
Too, I don't blame. Him, they have another city to
get. To well, I'm pretty sure he has
a police escort. Well, yeah, but but like they're
trying to get to the next city. They don't.
Oh yeah? Well, he's probably trying to
get either back to his hotel so he can sleep or they're jetting
his ass. On the plane so he can go with
Taylor. Same with Beyoncé.
Yeah. Crazy.
Yeah. No, I've never done a stage

(01:24:55):
door. I actually hate that I could
have potentially done stage doorfor Haiti's town because I left
that. Cast Wow, God bless.
Apparently people listened when we asked because.
I love that. We told them in our Hangover
episode that we would love them to leave some comments now.
We didn't get any voice memos yet.
I'm still waiting on The Voice memos.

(01:25:16):
Someday one time will come, our time will come.
But we got 4 comments on our Hangover episode right?
I did get I got told in person by a couple people that they
thought the Hangover episode wasquite great, which is funny
because. We thought it was going to be
bad. We were like, I don't know about
this one. Terrible.

(01:25:38):
So apparently we talked about drag bingo in that episode.
We surely did. And my mother said you haven't
lived until you've been kicked out of a bingo hall because your
elderly grandmother, who was thinner than Skittles dog,
cussed A fellow elderly woman out who won.
It's competitive and brutal and heavenly.

(01:25:59):
That's the kind of bingo I want to see though.
She said bunco is what all the Catholic ladies play to get
drunk. Love, love that No, I would love
to go to a real bingo hall that's just full of bitter old
ladies. I want to see it's.
I know that's. The bingo I would go down to and
they're they're serving the winein the box, the little boxes.

(01:26:23):
I can't drink box wine. That's acid reflux.
Eat my lime, who I think we discovered that's fruit bat.
Fruit bat says they just put in quotes.
We're going to have to be in drag at noon.
Cricket emoji. Yeah, yeah.
And Sydney, of course. You know, Sydney's got to say

(01:26:44):
her piece. Here's their favorite quote of
the episode. No Ash Wednesday, Good Friday,
Pop your pussy Tuesday. I got to do something.
With pop your pussy Tuesday killed me, especially because
there really is a fat Tuesday. Yes, there is a fat Tuesday.

(01:27:08):
Pop your fat pussy Tuesday. I don't.
Oh my God. Our wonderful, Bree said.
Oh my God, I'm at work working on a dialysis machine in front
of like 10 nurses and I'm cackling over the cigarette
memorial story. Oh my God.
I some of y'all are real brave listening to us.

(01:27:34):
If you listen to this in public at.
Your job like if this at. Work.
Oh my God, Amy was listening to us.
Yes, at work. Raw dog.
Raw headphones, no headphones. Such a brave choice for
everybody to hear. I was like, Mom, you can't do.
That I wouldn't play this out loud and I know some of what was

(01:27:55):
said. I can't remember all of it.
It's so funny. No, we do not have any voice
memos but you can leave US1 if you go to the mix match.
Tell us your thoughts podcast onInstagram or be unhinged TikTok
or Facebook cuz you can't do anything without social media
these days unfortunately, unfortunately, unfortunately.

(01:28:18):
What shows do we have coming up?What's happening?
What's? Going on, well, when this comes
out on Friday, you should come out to Avondale for the
graduation batch with special guest Green Graduado.
Sure. And then I guess we're taking
some time off for the part of the Plains pageant that is the
24th. If you would like to see some of
your misfits compete for a crown, you can come out to the

(01:28:39):
Opelika Community Theater on. Saturday Interesting and
different. May the 24th for a pride
pageant. I'm not in charge this year, so
I don't know how it's going to go.
So we'll just find out together,yeah.
I think it the doors open at like 5 or 6 to the public and
that's all I know. All I know is I'm gonna be there
about 3:00 cuz I gotta I'm competing.
To do that registration and bringing all your shit in your

(01:29:01):
big old plastic tubs full of costumes, Yeah, love it, Love
it. And then to close out, we do
have trivia. Trivia on the 20.
First, on May the 21st, Which? Is also when casting for fresh
faces open. So be on the lookout.
Casting at 5. Trivia at 7:00.
Because we will have a fresh face trivia.
Six. It's 7.
Trivia at 7. OK.

(01:29:21):
Because we will have a fresh faces on Thursday, June the 5th.
I know normally we do them on Saturday, but this is like a, a
work up to the Pride festival that weekend.
It's also a the money raised at this fresh faces is donated back
to pride on the plane. So be on the lookout for that
registration. If you want to do some fresh
faces, it's coming at you. And then the I think the last

(01:29:44):
episode we told you everything that was happening on Pride
week. So I'm not going to do that
again. Yeah, because it's a lot.
But be sure to check out About Pride on the Plains Facebook
page for all of those wonderful events that are happening.
They're doing some karaoke, they're doing some bingo,
they're doing some trivia drag. All that fun stuff is happening.
It's gonna be some. It's gonna be a long week, but

(01:30:05):
it's going to be quite a fun week, if I had to say so myself.
But I think the only other thingwe know is we're going to wrap
up May with another Evendale show on the 31st.
That's our finally doing our Y2 gay show.
We've talked about this for months.
We've talked. About it on the pod.
Yeah, we wanted to do like that.Sort of now that we've collected
it and thrown it out there, I know I'm ready to throw the

(01:30:27):
music back. It's going to be fun.
Be on the lookout because we didtoday have a little meeting,
Skittles and I to bring back a little competition to the Auburn
area, so. It's excited.
This will be the first competition since pre pandemic,
I think. Yeah, because we did Royal Drag
Race in 2019. Open stages, you know, so we're

(01:30:49):
excited to bring back a competition element and see who
comes out on top when we decide to pass the crown again.
This will also be fun because I have never been on the other
side of a competition. It's gonna be a little different
this time. Just be on the lookout for all
those rules and themes and how everything is gonna work out.
But we're excited to bring back a little.

(01:31:10):
Composition, yeah. Hey, get that graphic together,
would you? What do?
I work tomorrow. We'll see.
No, it's exciting. I'm excited.
I will, I mean, as somebody who's done a couple different
types of drag competitions and pageantry over the years on top
of just regular bar gigs, I do think doing a, a good drag

(01:31:32):
competition or something that requires you to like have
deadlines and come up with like themes and work around like.
It really does push you to elevate your drag.
You got to come up with some stuff and you got to sometimes
do it really cheaply or really quickly.
And that definitely can, I mean.That can make you a crafty
queen. I did some of my fastest like
growing in my drag when I I did Royal Drag Race absolutely again

(01:31:53):
when I was cast as when we started the Misfits and I was
doing weekly shows for the firsttime ever, that was I was like,
oh, I have to. Come up and we'll make you.
Yeah. Pump out.
Some stuff when you do like 1 show a month it you know, but
like when you move to weekly it's yeah.
It's like, oh shit, I got to do some stuff.
Let me make a new mix real quick.
You know, it's wild. But that's all of our upcoming

(01:32:14):
shows. We are going to put out another
podcast episode at the end of the month, so you get 3 mixed
match episodes in the month of May.
Aren't you lucky One in the one in the long months?
Aren't you lucky That means I get 5 paychecks.
I was about to say I love a month.
Well I guess it doesn't. I don't get paid.
It depends on who. It depends on how that falls

(01:32:35):
for. You.
Yeah, yeah. But we will close out our
podcast season the month of June, take a couple of months
off, and then we'll come back and see you in September.
Season 2 Unreal. I guess we're thinking about
Season 2, you know? You know, I guess we'll keep
doing it. Left that, left that no, this

(01:32:56):
has been it's been cool. It's been so much fun.
I can't believe we're so like soclose to pride season.
And we've gotten to hang out more, which has been a lot of
fun. Yes, wild if you had told me
years ago when we were getting ready together at the first
Pride on the Plains pageant. And I walked in and I said, who
is this man? Because I'd never seen you out

(01:33:16):
of drag. And I was like.
Who the? Fuck is this?
And then about halfway through the process you probably like
threw on a wig or something. I was like.
That's Kelowna. Listen.
I know. Her.
So for the Rent show, I'm obviously not Kelowna when I go
on stage and see I'm the music director so I'm in the back

(01:33:37):
pressing play and waving my hands to keep people on beat or
whatever. But I do pop on stage to sing 1
little song. Because you made Sydney cry.
I had to. Yeah.
Well it's really easy to make Sydney cry.
But you made Sydney cry. That's sweet.
She probably cried like 8 times during Rent.
Well Rent is a very easy show tocry and the song that I sing is
it you're going to cry anyway. And so I sang or whatever and

(01:34:00):
all that and Ash Parsons, some of their friends had showed up
or whatever and after was like, man, that guy that just sang
that one song was really good. But then he didn't show back up
anymore during the play. Like where did he go?
What? And then like I thought he
looked familiar, but I don't know who that was.

(01:34:21):
And Ash looked at them and goes,that was Kelana baby but.
Also, you're in the support group, like you're there for
parts of it, you know, whatever she was like.
But I will say. Came on and sang one song and
walked off. Who was?
That I get it because I was talking to you about Angel and I
was like the person that played Angel should do drag.
That was so funny. Holy shit.

(01:34:43):
You were like, baby, that's holydrag.
I have some news for you. I no, I remember leaving me
like. I was like, Sydney, they
absolutely need to do drag. I was like, they just really get
it. Like the way that they like move
their body in the talk and like the cattiness.

(01:35:03):
They just like they get it. They're made for drag, so.
Stupid. I was like, baby, that's, that's
Chloe von Traic. Good for her.
But if you are in the Opelika area, we do have another weekend
showing of rent. I will not be at performing at
the Avondale show, but I'm probably going to come up there

(01:35:24):
and drink a little bit. Yeah, I'm in charge.
That'll be. Interesting you're in charge
Friday. Good luck.
And with Green, and I don't knowif you worked with Green, but
she's a little bit of a gremlin in the best.
Way. But yeah, I was about to say.
But like the good gremlin kind like no.
She's fine. Well, I've been drunk enough
times with Buttons to know that that that coin definitely has

(01:35:46):
two sides. When we went to when I was in
the DIY show, because when we, Imean, we were both booked for
drag night at the night months before and Buttons drank too
much at the Nick. And then we went to AL's after
and drank more. Oh my God.
Yeah. So we were like, all right, we
got to keep an eye on Buttons because she likes to party and

(01:36:08):
she can really, she can really only have two drinks.
And I remember it was we'd already done the DIY show.
And so we're watching the like the the Dreamcast, we're
watching the main show, the 11 show.
And there was a point where I just like my brain was like,
where's Button and I out loud towhoever was next to me.
I don't know if it was Connor orif it was one of the other the

(01:36:29):
the House of vomit or whatever. I was like, where's Buttons?
How many drinks does she had? And I turn around and Buttons is
behind me and she goes 5 and sheshe has a drink in her hand and
she just keeps drinking and dancing and watching the show.
That's so. It was.

(01:36:51):
And you know what, she was fine.And she credits her being fine
to the snacks that she brought to the Airbnb that she got to
eat directly after the show. And I think she brought like
Gatorade and she's like, I dranka Gatorade.
I had my snacks fine. I am a huge fan of a Liquid IV
before bed. Honestly, that's all I mean I

(01:37:12):
will say that is why I keep likejust a bag of like chicken
Nuggets in my freezer. Pizza rolls it's.
You got to have something just in case.
We got pizza rolls and party pizzas because if we come home
and nothing's open you. Put it in the air fryer and
while you're taking off your makeup, it's heating up.
And then here recently, because call time for rent has been
5:00. Yeah, I've been eating at like

(01:37:33):
4. So I'm not hangry while I'm at
the show. Yeah, because nobody.
Wants that, but because you're eating at 4:00.
And then when I get done with the show at 10:00, you know,
post show adrenaline, now I wantto eat something.
Yeah, and I really shouldn't. But yeah, pizza rolls.
I love pizza rolls. I love pizza rolls.
I have. I have been on a popcorn kick

(01:37:54):
lately. Popcorn gives me acid reflux.
Really. Yeah, if.
I pop tarts give me acid reflux.Yeah, yes, I was talking about
this with buttons. Too.
Can you eat a whole pop tart in one sitting?
Can you eat the whole two of them both of.
Them oh baby, I'm going to eat both of them and then I'm going
to take my pilot sick I'll. Be sick.

(01:38:14):
I'll be sick. Hey, my pop tart's half at a
time. It's too sweet.
It makes me hurt. No.
OK, OK. But what's your favorite Pop
tart? This is some great bonus
content. We're supposed to be you're.
Welcome. We were already done.
What's your favorite but? Sydney and I have this, we have
a check in and it's always the same.
We have the same pop tart discussion but we do this like

(01:38:35):
once a year. Well, it depends.
If I am going to bed and having a pop tart before bed.
As like a treat as a. Treat I want a wild Berry pop
tart. That's Connor's favorite.
It's a wild. But if it's in the morning for
breakfast and I'm having like some eggs and bacon, I want
brown sugar cinnamon. That's my favorite brown sugar

(01:38:57):
cinnamon. Now that's my favorite real pop.
Tart Aaron loves strawberry frosted.
Sydney only eats strawberry unfrosted.
What a heathen. I know she's like they're all
too sweet. Well, what my favorite pop tart.
In reality, this is a not good for you.
One hot fudge sundae toasted. See OK, I but it's too sweet.

(01:39:18):
It's way too sweet. It's not a real food get into
like the S'mores or The S'mores is my mom's favorite hot fudge
sundae or. Yeah.
I like the regular chocolate ones I.
Don't think I I think it's the chocolate that I don't like.
I think something about the pop tart chocolate.
I get that though. Also they've changed it.
When I was a kid the chocolate ones tasted different and now

(01:39:38):
this is going to sound crazy. I do not like name brand pop
tart chocolate. The fudge ones not good.
What I if I want to chocolate pop tart now I get the Kroger
brand ones because I like those.Yeah, see, I didn't grow up on
name brand Pop Tarts. I grew up on great value Pop
Tarts. Whatever.
I mean, I eat those too. Yeah, so whatever the great

(01:40:02):
value, Brown. Sugar and they don't make all of
the same yeah usually the generic brands are just going to
have like that they it was either strawberry, blueberry
brown sugar. Some of them make fudge.
Kroger makes Kroger makes their own Oreo one the cookies and
cream. It's not good.
I used to eat the book out of frosted blueberry, but I think I

(01:40:23):
ate too much of it and now I don't.
I don't. I don't know.
I we got 4 blueberry bushes right here and I like the buck
up some blueberries. Cherry pop tart is probably my
favorite fruit. I know Cherry is one of those.
Any cherry flavor? I do like medicine.
I do like the wild Berry one. That's a good one.

(01:40:43):
Now that we've gone off tangent 1000 times here at the end of.
This. Yeah, very off tangent.
Thank you for joining us for our1414 episode Mixed Match podcast
episode. Dicker's Dozen plus one doesn't
make sense. God bless.
I'm Kelana and I'm Skittles. I'm bad at math, but you already

(01:41:05):
knew that. We'll see you next time.
Fuck you, Mr. Sanders. I'm believing it.
Oh, and that's why I'm bad at Matt.
It's your fault, Mr. Sanders. I sucked at algebra too and her
name was Miss Stewart. That bitch.

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