Join Billy Hubbard and his wife Sarah on this part 2 special episode with Singer Songwriter John Smith Presley, a man who has presented DNA and other convincing evidence to prove he is the son of Elvis Presley, and his attorney friend/band mate Tony Petty. John was born in 1961 and adopted and raised by an uncle and aunt of Elvis, Ira Dee and Etta Smith.
John is the subject of a film about his life currently in the works based on Rich Carlburg’s book Let The Boy Sing. John is also part of a new Netflix documentary currently in production which is where we caught up with him today.
Paul Cohen, a noted Hollywood investigator, has spent the last eight years collecting new and corroborating evidence John already possessed including verification of his birth certificate. The state of Texas had a systems glitch in 1961 the year John was born that caused the “D” in the word "Date" to show up as an “O.” This was the only year this occurred. Most importantly Paul has obtained DNA comparisons to several verified members of the Presley family, including a first cousin to Elvis, and they match.
John was subsequently adopted by an aunt and uncle of Elvis, Ira Dee and Etta Smith at about 18 months old. Along with John, Ira Dee and Etta also adopted his two older half sisters at the same time to provide a loving stable home for the children. Ira Dee and Etta had no children of their own. John’s birth mom Zona was a cousin to Elvis by marriage, not by blood.
The book title Let The Boy Sing is from a message that was passed on to John's birth mother Zona, and some 30 years later Zona passed the message to John. Gladys Presley was illiterate and didn't write the message "Let the boy Sing" herself. Gladys had a maid named Hattie that wrote down what Gladys told her to write. Gladys passed away in 1958 several years before John was born. The message was intended for Elvis and the future mother of his child based on the feeling Gladys had about her future grandson. When Gladys asked Hattie to write this, the events of John's birth had not taken place. Hattie years later was sent to the house of Ira Dee and Etta Smith to help raise John, just as she helped raise Elvis for Gladys. Hear part 1 of John's story at https://www.buzzsprout.com/1300885/episodes/15646481 and read FAQ's and learn more about John's story at http://lettheboysing.co
Podcast producer/cohost Billy Hubbard is a Singer/Songwriter and former Regional Director of A&R for a company that published a Grammy winning song. Billy is a signed artist with Spectra Music Group and co-founder of the iconic venue "The Station" in East TN. Billy's album was released by Spectra Records 10/2023 on all major outlets! Learn more about Billy at http://www.BillyHubbard.com
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hello and welcome to another episode of my Backstage
Pass.
This is your host, billyHubbard, and I'm here with my
lovely wife, sarah.
She's sitting in for Lee Zirma.
Today we're excited to haveJohn Smith-Pressly back for a
part two episode and tonighthe's here with his good friend
(00:26):
and bandmate sidekick he happensto be an attorney, mr Tony
Petty.
After they played a great showlast night at the station two
sold out shows actually over theweekend and we just wanted to
have a little update.
So it's really cool we'rehanging out here together
tonight.
Guys, how'd you like?
(00:48):
Last night it was the firsttime we saw you live.
It was pretty incredible.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's the first time we've seen ourselves live.
It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We've had a great time.
Thanks for having us.
Billy and Sarah thank you somuch it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Incredible place.
Oh my God, it's magical,magical it's been a great
weekend well, the people at thestate.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
You know we talk about it on here on other
episodes but, uh, people don'trealize that you know most
people think about in nashvilleyou have the broadway and the
city lights, but if you can finda place in your town that has a
listening room out in thecountry, I mean it's, it's just
an incredible experience.
It's's so much better than thatkind of atmosphere.
(01:26):
I mean, I love Nashville, butI'm just saying Broadway has
turned into craziness.
Anyway, apart from that, youguys, it was a great show you
did and you did a lot of youroriginal music, which was a
problem.
I mean, I knew you did someoriginal songs, man.
You had some great stuff.
How long have you been writing?
Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, my first song I wrote when I was like seven,
and my second song I was likenine, and then my third song was
11, on the luciana hayride ohso you know I was way back, I
got four songs in there before Iturned 12 wow man, good job.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Well, you should hear them I, I wouldn't say we did
hear a couple and they werereally good.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And you had one last night.
I remember you said I think youperformed it that you were 12.
I forgot the name of the song.
One of them you said you weresix.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
An Answer to my why was the one that I did on the.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Louisiana Hayride, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I got to write that with a guy named david rowe.
Oh right, yeah, I think itseemed like I've heard of him.
He was uh, now you and you wereyou moved to?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
nashville when you were uh, how old.
Well, uh, I was turning 19 andthe.
The reason that I can rememberis because the minute I left
california from Welk show andmoved to Nashville, the drinking
age changed.
Oh, it leads to 21.
So, yeah, I mean I got to missout on everything.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I remember I got under that curtain.
I was born, so I know if I gotunder that you know.
So cool that you know so cool.
Well, when and tony you were, Imean, this was uh, uh, you know
where are you from originally.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Now, I was well, I grew up in el paso, um, lived in
a jersey for a while st louismozera and uh.
Finally, I graduated from elpaso once, uh, I joined the Army
.
I was in the Army for a while.
I just moved around.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Thank you for your service.
Yeah, man, thank you, I saw youjumping on airplanes Jumping
out.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
He's crazy.
That's what that means.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, that was a long time ago.
On purpose, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Oh good.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, I was kind of pushed out?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Just like the Toby Keith thing a boot in your you
know over there, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, man, two things I love about you is lead guitar
.
I love a good guitar player,and you were tearing it up the
last couple of nights, and thefact that you jump out of
airplanes makes it even morecool.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
That'd be a show jump out out of airplane while
playing guitar.
That would be cool yeahwouldn't that be something?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
how did you end up?
How did you and john come cometogether?
I know we had.
We had another bandmate herewho had- to leave uh verge who's
?
Also uh, attorney, and he, uh.
That's where you get.
We build the show as John Smith, presley and the at at laws and
(04:31):
some people ask me questions.
What is that man?
I don't think anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Because they're attorneys.
Well, I try to surround myselfwith attorneys, just in case.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well, I noticed that.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
You get that case yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
That's what I said last night.
I said it's like the SecretService you got the president,
but he's surrounded by attorneys.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
That's pretty cool, though, but they're helping you
establish what you need toestablish to determine and prove
exactly who you are.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
But which came first?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Did you need them as a guitar player or an attorney?
That's a really good question.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
We were just friends.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
We met about 10 years ago, oh really A little town
called Black Canyon City.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Arizona.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Arizona.
Yeah, we're always staying justnorth of Phoenix, between
Phoenix and Flagstaff.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And just to brag on you for a minute, tony, you were
the commander of the postcorrect in Black Canyon City.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, there's an American Legion post and a VFW
post there in Black Canyon City.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I'm currently the commander of the American Legion
there.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Wow, man, interesting .
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That's really cool, that is really good, that is
cool and believe it or not,virgil, who's the guitar player,
bass player, and so wonderful.
Virgil was not only in themilitary, but he was also a,
wasn't he a?
Colonel?
He?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
was a lieutenant colonel.
Lieutenant colonel.
Lieutenant colonel.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And then Virgil was also a commander at a post in
another town in Arizona, but wedidn't none of us knew each
other.
Wow, it was insane.
So I'm in a little town calledDewey Humboldt, and Dewey
Humboldt in Arizona is kind ofbetween Flagstaff and Scottsdale
(06:15):
, more on the Flagstaff sidethan the Scottsdale.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Is that the northern part?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's kind of in the middle.
But going north and I go to alittle American Legion hall and
I get up and sing a couple songsbecause I got a little open mic
night, and this gentleman comesover and he goes hey, my name
is Virgil and I'd like to meetyou, so of course I throw the
(06:43):
story out there.
Next, thing I know, know, hegoes.
Well, I play a little guitartoo well, little did I know he
says a little guitar not littleof guitar he played, but so
amazing guitar absolutely Idiscovered that over the weekend
?
yeah, and then at the same timewith tony I'm black canyon city
at american legion VFW Hall,where he's the colonel, and we
(07:05):
did a little show.
And the next thing I know I'mlike then how come we don't have
a group or a band or something?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Let's get any other and.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Virgil said well, because we don't have any money
to make a band.
And so the next thing, you know, tony goes.
Well, I don't have any moneyeither, but I'm in the band.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Oh, that's, awesome.
So there we are yeah.
Wow, that's a great T-shirt.
I don't have any money, but I'min the band.
I'm in the band, exactly.
That's a great T-shirt.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, so, and you guys?
As far as attorney privilege,do you have some benefits
besides guitar?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yes, have some benefits besides guitarists.
Yes, nothing leaves the table,oh.
No you mean benefit like what?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
What do you mean, bill?
You have any lawyer benefits?
Do you get any kind of advicefrom these guys?
They tell you.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Heck yeah.
Actually it's not really advice, it's more like orders.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Oh yeah, Plus these military guys.
Yeah, I'd be kind of oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And when you got one of them that was a colonel, I
mean a lieutenant colonel.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, I think me and Tony both listened A couple
times, I think it's veryimpressive that you have Such a
team that does surround you thatare really working On your
benefit, for your behalf, toreally establish who you Say you
are with the proof that youhave.
It's very impressive how thesemen have military or whatever
(08:32):
but have guarded you, and thenwe have to add rich to it.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Oh, absolutely, it's quite a big team.
It is a huge team that's comingtogether.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And maybe you could have dreamed that big.
Maybe you couldn't have, butthis is going to be a legal
thing, and that's what we havereally understood and how much
we're excited about it for you.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And you know, I would have never imagined that at my
age now, and of course it's, youknow, like I'm like 30.
And of course it's you knowlike I'm like 30.
But anyway, I would have neverimagined that a team of these
incredible people or guys wouldcome together.
I mean, we have Rick Parrish,who's incredible with Capstone
(09:20):
Films and things like that.
We have Virgil Eiler, who is anattorney.
We have Tony Petty.
We have Rich Karberg, who wrotemy first book called Let the
Boy Sing.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And he's about to republish that right.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It's been republished now.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Oh, really Okay.
We have a new cover.
We have to know where we canfind that.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, you can find that at our website.
It's called lettheboysingco.
Yeah, now, not com.
Oh, I got it.
Yeah, I like to say co, becauseif you put it in com, well,
it'll still work.
But we got the CO, and now I'mthinking to myself so who is the
(09:57):
CO?
Yeah, I'm not sure it would gothere or not, it's probably our
wives.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, I saw that it would go there or not.
It's probably our wives.
It's a very, very good answer.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And I was telling some folks at the show.
I mean, I know, you know, thefirst episode we recorded with
you was when Virg called me inAugust of this year 2024, and he
told, well, no, I'm sorry.
He first emailed me and and asI read it, the further I read it
, the crazier it got I startedlaughing Actually.
(10:31):
I kept going down.
I thought I was like is hemaking a joke or something, you
know?
And then he said, I know thisis hard to believe, but give me
a call.
And so I went out and calledhim and yeah, and so he kind of
filled me in and that's a lot ofthat's on the first episode
explaining that.
But uh, actually I didn't knowuntil uh, some you know this at
(10:53):
the show this past weekend isthat he had the credibility of
both you guys.
You know, I didn't reallyunderstand.
No, no, hadn't met verge.
Well, I met verge.
I mean sorry, I hadn't met tony, but the fact and Verge was
telling me about the law firmhis brother, I think that he was
partners with, argued a casewith the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
They did and they won .
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I mean, oh my gosh, how many times has that happened
?
No, and so the credibility.
I think to me in my mind, I'mjust saying I think to me in my
mind, I'm just saying well, youknow, both you guys are very
serious.
You're not, you know, like abetter call Saul or exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Well, you know what's a.
What's really amazing, too, isis that that I I sit here today
thinking to myself you know, I'm, I'm, I was.
I was so blessed through lifeand I had so many opportunities
and so many things happened andso many things became such
wonderful moments in my life,and now I even have more blessed
(11:54):
and more moments.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, man, I mean a lot of artists would love to
have the support.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
That's how you know it's time.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Exactly Because it all came together.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
You weren't out hunting, you were just being you
doing your thing.
I just see a nucleus cometogether.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, it's like the eagles, they say the eagle takes
and puts thorns in the nest toget the babies out there to fly.
So they can have some morebabies, I guess.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
but well, we wanted to use that name for the band,
but some these other guys had itso they were like you can't use
that one.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
You know, I think yeah well, uh, back up, I was
gonna try to remember.
I don't remember of course it'sbeen a couple months, but uh, I
know the the numbers on thepodcast and we've got I've
gotten some comments andquestions, uh, but are the good
numbers yeah, yeah, this is theway to podcast work.
Anybody out there in the worldof podcast?
(12:53):
no, I mean, we're, we were in ayou know the minor, the well,
the top 50, but it's hard to geta, an episode that doesn't
plateau, and the first episodeif no one's heard that, that was
in August 26, published so youcan go back and listen.
But by the time you hear this,it will be exceeding 100,000, no
(13:17):
doubt, and so we just wanted todo a little follow-up.
Because of the questions and,to be honest, I can't remember
all the questions, but I've gota few of them here um, and and
some of them were, um, that wetalked about, you know like who
the lawyers, you know people,like when you say, oh yeah, this
lawyer did that.
Well, their lawyers actuallyhave names and they're real
(13:38):
lawyers you know, exactly
Speaker 3 (13:39):
yeah they're real people, they're like we're not
yeah they're very nice.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well, some of the questions, I see we had someone
that was saying well, I'm justtrying to remember, now I'm just
going to throw some things atyou just because of all the last
couple months.
But someone said well, thebirth certificate that you have
is what?
Did they say 1980-something?
And they said do you have theoriginal, or how does that work?
(14:08):
Do you get?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
well, I was actually born in 1961 and evidently in
1961.
Back in those days it was alittle bit different, you know
when a child was adopted.
So when once I was adoptedshortly in 1961.
I think, tony, it's the wordcalled sealed or seal the
(14:30):
records are sealed.
The records are sealed, as theysay, and so it took our.
We had an investigator that wemet a few years ago Well,
actually he's been now with usfor and he's on our board.
He's been with us now foralmost 17 years and I met him
(14:51):
through a beautiful, wonderfullady.
Her name is Susan Safford, andSusan Safford was the first
Vanna White, if you remember theflip those letters you know,
guy or girl, you know.
If you remember the flip, thoseletters, you know guy or girl,
you know.
And so, meeting her and she'slike you know, john, if you want
to prove who you are, you needto talk to this gentleman
(15:14):
because he is the investigatorof the stars in California, he's
I spy international, he's he'sthe moment and he will find out
either you're real or you're not.
Well, he found out that youknow what it's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Who His?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
name's Paul.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Cohen, how long ago did that start?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
The first time we spoke with Paul Cohen was almost
17 years ago.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, and then he came on board.
So you do know, it's time nowthat all these people have
pulled together.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah 13 and a half years ago Now.
Why would it take so long?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Well, we had so much information and data and so on
and so forth, and back in theday, even 13 years ago, dna was
something that no one reallygets or proves or has.
I mean, it was a little moreskeptical than it is today.
Today, dna is factual, it'sperfect, it's like right on.
(16:11):
And over the 13-year course ofhis investigative work and so on
and so forth.
And bless him.
I'm telling you right now he'sa fabulous, fabulous person.
He obtained the DNA, he madethose things happen and now
(16:34):
we're here.
We are.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So he's a real guy too.
That's just something else,people you know, that's what I'm
saying.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
He's a real human.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So it has some people say, oh, who are these people?
And they say you can make upanybody's name.
So that's cool.
We got the names of yourlawyers, which are your
bandmates, and the investigatorwe know.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Elvis had people surrounding him that they put in
place.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And so I have to believe, now and even later in
my life, now that Elvis I've,now I have people surrounding me
that are putting the things inplace.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, and just for people maybe like me that can't
remember all the details, on theguy named HT, that he was kind
of seemed like, if I rememberright, he was protecting you or
something.
And where did he come from andhow did he?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Well, you know years and years and years ago my, of
course, for those who may notknow a little bit of the story,
maybe I can just throw it outthere really quickly.
But so my adopted father wasGladys Lefsmith Presley.
Elvis's mother, gladys LefsmithPresley's brother, was my
adopted father and he was from alittle town called San
(17:48):
Augustine, texas, which islocated, you know, down in Texas
, and they have this lake calledSam Rayburn Lake and he's out
fishing because he was afisherman and hunter, you know,
back in the day, and he'sfishing with his buddy, don
Baker.
And he and Don Baker aretalking a little bit about my
career because I'd gone on theLawrence Welk show at age 15.
(18:12):
I walked on stage at the HearstColiseum in Shreveport,
louisiana, and I sang a songwhich was a big accident because
I'd gone from the restroom tothe stage.
Accidentally, because I cameout in the wrong spot.
Now, later, maybe we'll eventalk about the restroom stuff,
because I have a lot of greatmoments happening in the
restroom.
But so here we are, things aregoing along and it's time for me
(18:39):
to leave the Welk show and goto Nashville.
So, at age 19, I go toNashville.
So this fishing guide in a boatwith my adoptive father, are
discussing my career and heturns and says the fishing guide
.
Well, you know some guys inNashville.
You went to school with them,you know.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
You need to call these guys, so that's HT.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, so you need to call HT.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
What's HT's last name ?
Does he go by HT or does he goby?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Can we edit stuff if we mess up?
No, I'm kidding, if you can'tsay it.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Did he say HT or ID?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Well, ID was my adoptive father.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Right, I'm sorry, you confused me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
HT became my manager.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Right, but were they the two talking about your
career?
I'm confused on who was talking.
No, no.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
My adoptive father ID was talking with Don Baker, who
was the fisherman.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Oh, okay, okay.
So I totally I was going tomiss that.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And he says I got some, we know some guys in
Nashville and of course myadoptive father.
At that point, I think, waslike who the heck do we know,
you know, and one thing leads toanother and then I get
introduced to these gentlemen inNashville that were amazing.
Maybe we probably won't say thename of the label, but they
were one of the strongest labelsin Nashville as an independent
(19:59):
label ever in the history ofNashville.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, I know who they are.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, actually.
So I agree.
And one thing leads to another.
And they invite me to come andsing, and I sing some songs, I
record some music.
Another and they invite me tocome and sing, and I've seen
some songs, I record some musicand actually my first record, a
little song called californiacalling, went on the billboard
charts and was actually promotedby a gentleman named pete
(20:24):
bennett or who actually promotedthe first time billboard chart
song of suspicious minds forElvis.
So these gentlemen, I come tofind out later in life that
there was a connection even fromthe start.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Oh yeah.
Well that's interesting now.
And, uh, the guy that theinvestigator on the DNA, I mean
in the court system, um, on theDNA, I mean in the court system.
I was going to ask Tony.
Someone said one comment wasanybody can get DNA, which I
don't even know what thatcomment means, but I mean I
(21:03):
guess, if you're going to go tocourt, this guy was certified to
testify Forensic scientist.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Forensic scientist to be able to present Forensic
scientist.
Forensic engineer.
So yeah, they're able topresent Forensic engineers.
The findings in court, so justanybody can't just come to court
and say it's real.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Well, they can, but they're going to get torn apart
if they're lying.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
So there's no way to manipulate DNA.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Well, it's not 100% foolproof.
Well, it's not 100% foolproof,but it is so close that most
courts will rely on thatevidence.
As opposed to what is it?
The lie detector test.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, you can't even take that into court anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
But then they take the other evidence, as Tony can
probably tell you.
They take the other establishedevidence, attach that to a DNA,
and then you usually and I'mguessing I'm not an attorney,
that's why I have a whole bunchof them in my band, you know but
(22:10):
then they attach all thatevidence and then all of a
sudden the courts or the judgesays okay, that looks pretty
good to me.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
You need to look at this.
Yeah Well, I mean, I know I sawsome evidence and I don't know
if we can talk about it, but Isaw some evidence while
everybody's been together thisweekend that you can't.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Your photographs and stuff.
Yeah, photographs and differentthings and you just can't argue
about it.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I mean you just kind of.
I mean all you do is just lookat it and go oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
It is what it is.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
It is what it is, but you can't unsee it.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I mean you just can't unsee it.
I mean, okay, like today, eveneven being in the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
How much fun that was , because those little old
ladies oh my gosh, you madetheir world well, I hope they're
listening, because they were soadorable.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Oh they were, and they're just so sweet because
I'm like hey, you know, this isElvis' son and they're like
Texas Roadhouse what, what?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
tell us the story, texas.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Roadhouse right there .
In what town is it?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Alcoa, tennessee.
But what's funny was I had toscoot over because Billy had to
get out, so I had to scoot overinto their table.
I'm like, hey, ladies, how youdoing.
Sorry, I have to invade yourspot just a minute, but I'm
letting him out and whatever.
And so I slid off and he cameback and had to slide back over.
I'm like, oh, hey, how y'alldoing again.
Sorry, I didn't mean to crashyour party again, but hey guess
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what they were so sweet you everheard of Elvis.
And this lady was like oh, Ilove Elvis.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I loved Elvis.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I'm like well, that's his son.
And she was like what, no, what.
And the other lady said makehim take his hat off.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I think she even whispered to you.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I said he kind of looks like him.
I know she did.
I said I don't know if I makehim do that because guys just
don't like to take their hatsoff.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
It was a bad hair day .
Speaker 4 (24:06):
You were so sweet and you're just like, well, I
hadn't fixed it yet.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
But I was wearing a Billy Hubbard baseball cap.
Oh, absolutely, but she wantedto see you without the hat.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
She wasn't looking for your hair.
She wanted to see if you lookedlike Elvis.
And that's when she said hedoes look like Elvis.
And the other lady says can hesing?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Sarah said let the boy sing.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I said well, yeah, just pull him up here.
Hey, john, will you sing forthese ladies?
Yeah, that was kind of whichgot an applause through Texas
Roadhouse.
It was awesome.
They were like oh, I've beengetting text messages all
afternoon.
Well, I must say, if anyone ishere.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Sarah, you look like Lee Zimmerman grabbing these
buttons over there.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I only did it because he told me to You're not fully
trained on that board.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I thought I was on the Montel show for a moment,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I was trying to remember stuff from the first
episode and different questionspeople ask.
And let's see, one of thethings was well, we touched on
it about the legality, about thesealing thing, and I guess, how
does that work?
Does the parent, if you adoptsomebody who decides to unseal
it?
Is that like you know?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Well, each jurisdiction is different, but
the whole purpose of sealing therecords is for privacy.
You don't want to.
The birth parents don't wanteverybody to know what they did,
who they are, the whole reason.
They have their reasons for it.
I can understand that.
Yeah, so they seal the records.
(25:45):
So it's not public information.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, and then to unseal them.
Is that what you guys are?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
trying to unseal.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well, what actually happened was, through Paul's
investigations and so on and soforth, paul finds the young lady
that was actually at the TexasDepartment of Human Resources at
the time that my file was filed.
So we obtained two letters thatone said the restricted closed
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file and then one said thenon-restricted closed file.
So at that point it was kind ofgame on, and of course again,
I'm not in that attorney mode,but I'm thinking game on means
maybe we'll find something out.
Well, we won't say names,because you know, when you name
(26:38):
names you might get yourself alittle box or they may want
their own privacy.
But, this young, this sweet,amazing young lady was there at
the time of my birth file beingfiled and she felt that, you
know, the people involved were alittle more over the top than
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the norm and so she kind of madea little copy.
And it was so great because atthe same time when Paul did his
investigation, she was the ladythat he spoke to and then
shortly after that she retired,not giving him the information
(27:20):
at that first point, but at thesecond point she then reached
out and she sent us the file.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Oh, okay, wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, so bless her heart.
Oh my gosh, she that's a lot.
Yeah, so bless her heart.
Oh my gosh.
She's like my bestest friend.
I've never met.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
You know what I'm saying?
Oh yeah, of course, right, sonow is all the evidence I know.
And you just got the new siteyou mentioned, lettheboyssingco.
Right, do you have is it?
Are you putting all theevidence, like the pictures?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
and things.
Yeah, there's like somequestions, there's evidence,
there's the you know whatheckfire.
I think we even have my birthcertificate on there.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
What was in her file?
Well, back in the day in the60s, evidently, a mother and a
father of a child, married ornon-married, had to show proof
of who they were from thehospital's point of view for
birth certificate's sake andwhatnot.
And then there were actuallysome originals of some very
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profound documentation whichtotally gave them the proof that
not that we needed, but that wewanted to have.
Just foreclosure of my own self, my own person.
So there was a driver's license, there was a military card,
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there were different things likethat.
That pretty much gave me notonly closure but confirmation.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Do you have pictures, photos of that or?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
do you have the originals?
We do.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
But they kept the cards and different things, oh,
do you now.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So is there, but is there evidence that you're not
able to post at this time onyour site?
I mean, is there some evidenceof what?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
There's some that I don't know that they would post,
due to, you know, privacies ormoments you know, for just our
own moment.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
But there's some things that have to be legally
cleaned up, right.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
But there's some things that have to be legally
cleaned up, right, but there aresome you might go there just to
look, because it's kind of cool.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
We did, it was cool.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, there's some things that just from talking to
Burge, he mentioned stuff thatmade me think there was more out
there that everybody hadn'tseen yet.
Okay, and another anotherquestion.
I just remembered that uh, thatcame off the, the web, you know
, from people listening to thepodcast, is uh someone, uh, I
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don't know the guy's name, buthe just like had all this stuff
about the elvis's timeline.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It's like he must have knew where it was every
minute of the day and he posted.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
He said this can't be possible because he said Elvis
in January I mean July of 1961at this time was Was that a
wedding, supposedly Somewhere?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
July 2nd.
Filming a wedding, Filming amovie and such yeah and so.
Well, the great thing is,here's what kind of happened.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
He said he didn't like to fly.
That's what it was.
He said he would always drivebecause he was afraid of flying
Right.
I actually didn't know that.
Well, I knew he had an airplaneprivate plane.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And he didn't fly himself, but he did get on an
airplane.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
The really cool thing was is that there are only from
what I'm being told.
Of course, back in that day Iwas a little bit young, you know
, to figure out what's going onor who's talking about who but
November 14th, 15th and 16th of1960, elvis.
Those are the only three datesthat Elvis was unaccounted for,
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and when I mean unaccounted forsurrounded by his entourage or
his people that you know tookcare of him and he worked with.
I came along on July 3rd of1961.
And prior to that, because alot of people will say well you
know, on July 2nd of 1961, elviswas at a wedding of one of his
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guys.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
He was at a movie set .
Somebody said At a movie setbut there was also a wedding
yeah, but on July 3rd.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
That gentleman and Elvis were from what I'm being
told were at my birth.
There was this reallysweetheart lady who was the
nurse at the time and I didn'tknow this until way later in my
life, but she had taken aphotograph because— oh, I would
(32:05):
have snuck one too.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
It was elvish.
You would have to, yeah, sothat's what he was talking about
earlier yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Her son was a priest and several years back, even
during the Paul Cohen moments ofinvestigating stuff, this young
man reached out to us.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
So we have those photos, we have those.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Okay, so those are probably the legal things that
Virge couldn't show us, right,because he showed me a few, but
he said— so I'm in trouble fortalking about it.
No, no, he was just saying thatthere was more that he couldn't
show or share, because you allhave got to get some things
cleaned up shortly.
From what he was saying, it waslike next week or something.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Oh, I know.
Oh, here's what the other oneis.
I just remember now.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
And I can't remember there's so many I forgot.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
But one person said I guess they saw a picture of you
or something, and they saidwait a minute, that can't be
that year, because Elvis didn'thave sideburns until a certain
time in life.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Right, so you can grow sideburngs in a week.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Well, hell was a cyborg.
You could probably grow thosein like an hour.
Oh, I think it was a oh it wasa picture, and to be, honest I
should know this, because it'sbeen like two months.
I can't remember but a pictureof you know, him holding you
maybe yeah, I was actuallywrapped in a blanket, oh yeah,
and I was actually wrapped in ablanket.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Oh yeah, and you still have that blanket.
I think I remember you.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Oh, I did see that that was one of the pictures he
showed was your blanket.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
And well, that's cool .
Speaker 4 (33:42):
And Gladys was holding you.
No, no, no no, no, grandma hadpassed many, many years prior.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Even my birth.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Oh, okay, I'm sorry or even my birth.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh, okay, I'm sorry, or even my conception Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, there's a few pictures where I was wrapped in
a blanket.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
You know, the nurse held me and my dad held me and
my mom held me.
Oh yeah, so that exact blanketis in the photo.
I think we need to go back andcheck it out.
Man, that's pretty cool.
Hold, the blanket is in thephoto.
I think we need to go back andcheck it out.
Man, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Hold the photo up to the microphone, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, look at that.
Look at that man.
Oh, that's pretty cool.
Well, I'm just trying to gothrough a few questions.
Let's see what else was.
Let me look here.
These are things from the show.
Last night we had some peoplewrite down questions.
Everyone knows where he she waswhen Elvis died.
(34:39):
Where were you?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
You know, on the date of his supposed death I was
with the Lawrence Welk show butI was coming home, back home.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
And not knowing who I was.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I was coming back home to Louisiana.
At this point, no, not knowingand realizing really who I was,
because I didn't find out untillater in life I was 27.
But so I'm on an airplanecoming back from the Lawrence
Welk show where I performed, andof course they announced it
over the intercom.
(35:25):
Oh really, yeah, Kind of like30,000.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
And you didn't know that you were his son, then no,
oh, wow, well.
Everybody, yeah, kind of like30,000 people.
And you didn't know that youwere his son, then no, oh, wow
Well everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
It's kind of like.
When Kennedy was shot Iremember I was in on the school
bus and I felt sick as a littlekid.
I didn't know why, I just wassad.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I have to say I teared up, even though I didn't
know who it.
Well, let's see.
I want to look at anotherquestion.
It said is all the evidenceyou're the son of El was public.
Yet I think I might havesomething like that early,
(36:00):
because I'm not sure I'm goingto go out on a limb and say that
at least 80 to 90% of it is outthere.
Yeah, you know, and I guess theother percentage is if they
don't want to believe that Elvismight have had, you know,
another child besides the youknow, of course wonderful.
(36:22):
Lisa Marie, then hey, yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
That's your choice.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
That's your choice, that's your moment, but I have
to tell you in my lifetime as anentertainer which not even
knowing most of it that I wasconnected in that way.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
I've had a lot of fun , so.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I'm going to guess that someone of his magnitude,
you know probably had a littlebit of fun too.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, yeah, and this is one from last night too.
I think someone said didColonel Parker know about you?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And yes, as a matter of fact, I think last night at
the show we showed a littlephoto there.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Virg showed a little photo there.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, Virg showed me that picture yesterday
, with Carl Parker holding us.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Well.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
I have a question.
So I saw he also showed me apicture of you on Elvis' bus.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Did you ever at some point in your life, even maybe
after that, think why was I onElvis's bus?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
You know, amazingly enough, my adoptive parents were
connected Because, first of all, they were family, and so all
my adoptive fathers sang in theDeep South Quartet, which later
became some quartets you know,of names for Elvis so.
I was connected.
(37:55):
I saw things.
I was, you know, privy tothings.
I was, you know, at certainthings, and so on, and so forth,
but the reality of this is I'mbelieving in my heart and my
moment that you know, thesepeople that have taken me
adopted me and even from day one, when we were old enough to
understand, they told us that wewere adopted, which was
(38:18):
fabulous.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Kind, very kind.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
And so, from that moment on, I just hung out and
respected the most gloriousmoments that I had as a child.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Okay, that makes sense.
I mean, we all have odd familymemories and it's just because
we're connected to the family,exactly.
I mean I understand that.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Well, this is something I wanted to ask.
Tony.
So I mean you know, of course,being trained as you are, you
hear a lot of stories and youimagine that you kind of get
pretty good gut feelings fortruth.
I mean, if you say, if you knowyou never met John before, I
(39:04):
mean I don't know, putting youon the spot here, but then you
beat him.
Yeah, I mean, would you feelconfident you could win this
case?
You know, if you had to provebased on what you've seen, Well,
that's a tricky question.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
I'm confident that I could win this case.
Based on what I've seen, I haveno doubt in my mind that John
is legitimate.
I've known him for quite awhile and he and I are friends.
First of all, I've known him,like I said, for 10 years and we
play guitar, sing karaoke andjust get in trouble together.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
We're two friends At Southwest Airlines, by the way.
Is that a commercial?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
So I'm not with him because of who he claims he is.
I just like the guy.
We're just buds.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
But I believe him Based on the evidence Based on
the evidence.
I've seen and the people I'vetalked to and everything that's
gone into this, but at the sametime, I know how difficult it is
too.
Are you going up against, uh,people who are trying to protect
their interests?
(40:14):
And I can understand that, yeah, so it wouldn't be easy.
Whether the you know it's trueor not.
Like I said, I believe it's.
It is, but it is, it's notgoing to be easy.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I guess I meant your per.
You know your personal opinionbased on because I know what you
mean.
I guess you guess you get ajury.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yes, you never know what they're going to do but
exactly your personal experience, so I thought you know
personally, I, I, I think if wecould present the evidence like
we have, like everything we have, and we have intelligent people
evaluating all this, with ajudge Jerry, I have no doubt
(40:57):
that they would believe him andsay that he is Elvis' son.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Well, that's cool, because that's really a trust,
that's really amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
If I can just throw something out here.
What's really amazing is, firstof all, tony, thank you so much
for that.
But secondly, you know what?
Even if there's a doubt, I meaneven if someone's like adamant
and says, oh my goodness, elvisonly had one child, right, yeah,
and of course he had one child,but he had more than one child.
But the one child he had wasamazing.
The one child he had wasspecial.
(41:34):
The one child that he had wasincredible.
But even with that said, ifit's for lack of better words, a
naysayer is that how they saythat Like a naysayer or someone
negative on that point, you knowwhat?
Then that's their personalopinion and we are all entitled
(41:57):
to that opinion.
My moment from my heart wouldbe see the story, read the story
, yeah see the man understandthe man and the story that the
man is telling, and then makeyour own decision, because,
(42:17):
because, that's, that's why,we're in america, just just make
your own decision yeah, andpersonally, I mean everybody
that knows me personally and I'mI'm I'm very skeptical about
anything but Verge.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
of course, you know you have two great guys here
that are very credible, so thatto me, if I was, I always think.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I got a whole team of guys too, Not just these two
great ones.
Oh yeah, I see what you'redoing.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
You're building this team, I heard a lot about that.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
The rest of them are amazing, oh my, of guys too, not
just these two.
Oh yeah, building this team Iheard about that.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Amazing, oh my gosh well anyway, I I just want
people to you know to understandthe best they can.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (43:01):
and I think people should probably hear this coming
from me too billy and andthat's this, you know what make
a decision if decision, if youneed to make a decision, or just
go with the story or don't gowith the story, you know, be
negative against that, but let'sall not really totally be
negative, but let's all justhang out, let's just all have
(43:24):
fun.
Let's just all say to ourselvesyou know what Good, bad story,
indifferent story, crazy story,ridiculous story or
non-ridiculous, proven story,non-ridiculous story Very
interesting story.
Yes, very interesting story, butin result, you know what?
Let's all just love each other.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
And be a part Exactly Kumbaya thing you know, you
know what.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
Before you throw the story out, look at the evidence.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Look at it and you know, Because you know what I
mean.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Even in a court of law, that's the first thing they
would tell you.
You know, I think, and I'm nota judge, but I've watched a
little Judge Judy, you know.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
You know, tony.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, and I know Tony .
Speaker 4 (44:11):
And my thought would be this.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
My thought would be you know what.
Here's some evidence.
If you're on that jury, youlisten you take it in you make a
decision.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Research Do some research.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Right or wrong, you make that decision.
Good or bad, you make thatdecision.
You know what?
But any decision that someonemight make or wants to make, or
creates or makes, if I'mstanding there in front of the
court and the court says who areyou?
(44:44):
And I hand them a packet, theyreview that packet and they say
to themselves, oh my gosh, thisis because you know what.
Some things you just can't makeup, do you know?
Speaker 4 (44:58):
that someone's opinion of the evidence does not
change who you are.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Correct, correct.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
And so it doesn't matter what their decisions are.
You are who you are.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Well, I just want to say too, but for folks out there
that listen to the podcast, Ithink they know we have some
major artists on here and we'renot like a Jerry Springer
podcast, so this is a seriousthing.
Thank goodness I won't be aJerry Springer, but I just want
people to realize thecredibility that I would not
(45:32):
have you even on here, if I tome, if to me money, like you say
, if you don't put money onsomething, then you know what
you believe that faith is hardhe would not have had you at the
station yeah, but becausethat's where his reputation is
way out there it's like thecoming up election, you know.
You know.
I saw something on the newsabout the people that bet on it,
the odds makers.
I think, well, if I was goingto put money on it, I must
(45:55):
believe you, because I would putmy money, you know, if I had
you know, a couple
Speaker 3 (46:01):
bucks.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, I put it over here on you and be in truth,
mainly because I've seen stuff.
I don't know if it's out thereyet, but I'm just talking to
these guys.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Well, you know, when we played the station two days
ago and then last night, I wouldhope that everyone in the
audience, in both audiences,that what they took home was you
know what.
Whether they believe or theydon't believe, I hope that our
music touched their heart, Ihope our music gave them
(46:37):
something to take home and smileabout whether they're a
naysayer or a heck yeah-tsayer?
Yeah, man.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Well, a lot of people we spoke to last night, were
very excited to have heard youand to have met you.
Wonderful group oh my gosh, youknow what?
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, I'll go on record but we can bleep this out
later.
You know that I'm 63 years oldand I've gone to everything from
the Lawrence Welk Show as achild to Nashville, to recording
records, to making songs, towriting songs, to playing in
bands and so on and so forth.
And last night and night beforelast, I will have to say, was
(47:16):
magical because oh cool everyone, everyone I saw in that
audience everyone I met everyoneI spoke to, and then some were
the most kindest, most wonderfulpeople I've ever been connected
to.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
They are a fabulous group of people and they
appreciate music so much.
You know, it took me a coupleyears to figure out.
I had to shut up, you know,because I didn't grow up with
any appreciation orunderstanding of music because
of my raising um, but he, billy,taught me so much.
(47:57):
I mean, I, I, I used.
I mean if I was going to listento anything, it would have been
80s rock and you know what's sogreat.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
what you just said about you know being quiet at a
time.
My moment at this point wouldbe this you know what?
Hey, let the boy sing.
Oh yeah, and then you make thedecision of whether you're on
board or you're not on board.
But even if you're not on board, you're still on heart, right,
(48:30):
and this you know.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
we could, you know, go through questions all night
and there's always.
They're never going to end.
So I'm not trying to convinceanybody.
I just want everybody to lookat you know, as you get your
website going.
Go to your website, which islettheboysingco, and I'm sure
it's going to just get set up.
(48:52):
I mean, this is kind of like abreaking kind of news thing
because you just got yourwebsite set up.
It is.
The website the Facebook, yourteam you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
There's other things on there, Spot of Something,
Insti-somethingbody or whateverthose are and
Insti-somethingbody or whateverthose are.
So Sarah proposed the questionto me of the night that
supposedly Elvis met my motherand was with my mother.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
Yeah, no, that's a serious question.
Everyone wants to know that one.
Oh, it's a famous question.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
So my moment and attitude and answer would be
this First of all, I wasn'tthere just yet, but shortly
after I kind of came along.
So in between that time I willhave to say this, because I just
want to go on record I believethat not only is Elvis Presley
(49:47):
the greatest entertainer thathas ever hit our world, I agree.
Not only is he one of the mostspectacular performers ever in
our world, he captured the world.
Yes.
Speaker 4 (50:04):
He captured them.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
And from the things that I've heard from his moments
of oh my gosh, I passed bysomeone and bought them a car,
or I met someone that needed ahome.
I would like to go on recordand my attorney buddies are
going to go.
(50:25):
Oh, you know what that happenswhen you say you go on a record.
Well, I will confirm thismoment.
You know what?
Whether he did somethingcorrect or wrong, I believe his
heart was in the proper place.
Speaker 4 (50:40):
Oh yeah, yes, that's why everyone loved him, because
he was genuine.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Exactly, he was a giving heart.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
And that's what I hope.
Good or bad, indifferent,believable or not, that's what I
hope to accomplish.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
I believe that waitress at Texas Roadhouse
thought that today.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Maybe, so, Now just to update what's happened in the
last, I don't know, in the lastcouple months, since you were
were here before.
To follow up on the other firstepisode is what?
Uh, like I remember you saidyou're, you guys were getting a
committee together.
I mean, can you kind of updateus on what?
Speaker 2 (51:21):
well, we we have.
We now have a board ofdirectors.
Um, they're the most wonderfulpeople in my mind, most
wonderful people ever that I'vebeen connected with, although
I've been connected with a lotof wonderful people.
So we have a board of directors.
We're talking with a wonderful,wonderful actor producer named
(51:46):
Silk Cozart.
We have a brand new buddy thatwe met when we first came here
to Knoxville, you know, backthen in August Danger, dr Danger
, who's been on the show.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
Gosh, what a nice man he is.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
He's been on America's Got Talent like four
or five times.
Speaker 4 (52:04):
He was so nice A stuntman right, well, I'm
thinking to myself.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
well, first of all, he blows himself up and catches
on fire, so that's kind of scary.
Speaker 4 (52:11):
But that's why he has short hair, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
So we don't let him drive the bus or anything.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
You know just in case .
And he was here to film yourshows at the station For Netflix
.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
We've got a little trailer thing I think they call
that.
That's being presented as wespeak.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Oh, you're being created To Netflix Okay.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
For a little drama documentation.
Yeah, our movie is right outthere.
It's coming in 2025.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
As far as the movies, I think we were talking that
Warner Brothers may distributeit or produce it.
Now you're thinking it mayswitch to Twitter.
Well, the hope was that WarnerBrothers may distribute it.
Now you're thinking it mayswitch.
Well, the hope was that Warner.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Brothers would distribute it.
But now we're Silk, with hiswonderful people who surrounds
him and his casts, and so on andso forth.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
We're looking at.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
Lionsgate, lionsgate, yeah, and you know what my
response there would be.
I would be so appalled but yetso entwined if they would accept
what we're throwing out thereand what we're talking about,
what we're showing, and I thinkthey're going to, because bottom
(53:25):
line is we have a story.
Our story is and came from theday I was born until now.
Speaker 4 (53:41):
Maybe my story is controversial but my story is
honest, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
And I think America needs a story, a story, a
storyline and a presentation anda movie and a moment that today
says that's honest uh, yeah,and that's something that you
can't really get across of apodcast.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
You know, like I, of course, we know you guys and
we've hung out with you.
We actually have had a reallygreat opportunity to spend some
time with you when we did ourfirst podcast.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
We did not know you.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
And now we've had an opportunity to actually spend
some time with you and get toknow you, and you guys have been
so fabulous.
We've been in your home.
You've allowed us in your home.
Speaker 4 (54:28):
But we got an opportunity to really hear.
I have never heard so manystories in my whole dang life.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
Yeah, Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
Oh my gosh you know everybody everywhere.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
Yeah, here's.
Something I just want to say isthat we have a lot of people in
our home, but I mean justbecause of the venue and
different things in Princeton.
Speaker 4 (54:51):
Nashville and music business.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
But and we I feel like that that we can we can
judge people pretty quick, andSarah especially man, she'll
lock you in the band cave andnot let you out, but so anyway
that that kind of something thatnobody else can do.
So but I'm just saying.
I think as people see more andmore they'll understand.
(55:14):
But the bottom line is we don'tcare what the naysayers, you
know, there's nothing wrong withthat.
Everybody has their own levelof belief, you know.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
Exactly you know what , at the end of the day day, I
hope everybody takes homesomething and that would be this
if we've touched youemotionally, if we've touched
your heart, if we said somethingor sung something that has made
your life better oh yeah, likethe show last night then we've
(55:47):
done our
Speaker 1 (55:47):
job.
You did some good stuff that Icould tell.
You brought out something inthe audience there.
Well, hey, man, we're going towrap this thing up and I feel
like we may have to do a partthree, because you're kind of on
a journey here and I don't knowhow everything's coming
together.
(56:07):
I'm excited for you because youhave a everybody.
You know everybody doesn't havea legal team like you have
exactly which keep you out oftrouble.
I probably I'm needing onemyself.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
Should we announce brumer and white?
Well, if, we can edit that outif we're not supposed to.
Speaker 4 (56:22):
Yeah he's not listening I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
I'm listening I hope he's listening.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
You're gonna keep listening and I hope I hope I
get to go hang out with himagain, but anyway yeah.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
Listen, it has been a joy to get to spend time with
you and your legal people.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Thank you yeah.
Speaker 4 (56:41):
No danger, sorry, I'm out to lunch on a lot of things
when it comes to TV andwhatever.
When I asked him, I'm like, whydo they call you Danger?
He's like, well, it's Dr Dangerand I'm like, okay, why they
call you that?
And he started showing mepictures, which was terrifying.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
This has not only been an amazing journey, it's
been an amazing connection,because, from Danger to Rich, to
Rick to Tony, yeah Well, we'vemade lifelong friends.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
I think that's a great thing, man.
Speaker 4 (57:19):
We have enjoyed you it's been amazing yeah.
If it was over with today guesswhat.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
I've had a damn good time, if I can say that.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
I'm glad to see you're getting back on the stage
.
I know you're already doingstuff, but I mean, at the
station, man, you had a greatshow, so I'm happy for you and
we'll kind of hopefully comeback.
I know we're going to get evenmore questions, which I should
have printed them out, but Ijust remembered a few of them
off the top of my.
We'll kind of hopefully comeback.
I know we're going to get evenmore questions, uh, which I
should have printed them out,but I just remembered a few of
(57:53):
them off the top of my headCause we're only gonna do a
little 30 minute here to update.
But, uh, man, I appreciate bothyou guys being with us and
thank you guys and playing atour venue.
The station has been man.
That was quite a tree man.
It was beautiful weather herein East Tennessee on October
fall night, man what a can Ithrow?
Tennessee beat Alabama.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
Can I interject for one second and throw my motto
out there?
Yeah, you know, and I think mydaddy would have said this oh,
be safe, be blessed.
Yeah, man, because you blessedme.
Thank you, man.
Speaker 4 (58:30):
We've We've had.
We've really enjoyed Getting toknow you guys.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
Yeah, we've had.
It's a real treat for us.
Trust me, man, we, we We've hadhad a lot of Bud's Friends in
the music business, but this hasbeen a great.
Speaker 4 (58:44):
No, this is.
This has been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
Yeah, hey, we're gonna get out of here because
we're all getting hangry.
Speaker 3 (58:52):
Thank you guys so much.
We appreciate it.
We've had a great time.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
I can't wait to come back.
Oh yeah, man, this has beenquite a crazy ride here.
I'm just thankful that we getto know you guys and follow you
on this adventure.
But anyway, big thanks to johnsmith presley, his bandmate,
attorney friend tony petty andmy best half, sarah thank you
(59:20):
guys, thank you so much happytrails and we'll see you guys
next time.
Thank you.
Hello and welcome to another episode of my Backstage
Pass.
This is your host, billyHubbard, and I'm here with my
lovely wife, sarah.
She's sitting in for Lee Zirma.
Today we're excited to haveJohn Smith-Pressly back for a
part two episode and tonighthe's here with his good friend
(00:26):
and bandmate sidekick he happensto be an attorney, mr Tony
Petty.
After they played a great showlast night at the station two
sold out shows actually over theweekend and we just wanted to
have a little update.
So it's really cool we'rehanging out here together
tonight.
Guys, how'd you like?
(00:48):
Last night it was the firsttime we saw you live.
It was pretty incredible.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's the first time we've seen ourselves live.
It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We've had a great time.
Thanks for having us.
Billy and Sarah thank you somuch it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Incredible place.
Oh my God, it's magical,magical it's been a great
weekend well, the people at thestate.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
You know we talk about it on here on other
episodes but, uh, people don'trealize that you know most
people think about in nashvilleyou have the broadway and the
city lights, but if you can finda place in your town that has a
listening room out in thecountry, I mean it's, it's just
an incredible experience.
It's's so much better than thatkind of atmosphere.
(01:26):
I mean, I love Nashville, butI'm just saying Broadway has
turned into craziness.
Anyway, apart from that, youguys, it was a great show you
did and you did a lot of youroriginal music, which was a
problem.
I mean, I knew you did someoriginal songs, man.
You had some great stuff.
How long have you been writing?
Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, my first song I wrote when I was like seven,
and my second song I was likenine, and then my third song was
11, on the luciana hayride ohso you know I was way back, I
got four songs in there before Iturned 12 wow man, good job.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Well, you should hear them I, I wouldn't say we did
hear a couple and they werereally good.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And you had one last night.
I remember you said I think youperformed it that you were 12.
I forgot the name of the song.
One of them you said you weresix.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
An Answer to my why was the one that I did on the.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Louisiana Hayride, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I got to write that with a guy named david rowe.
Oh right, yeah, I think itseemed like I've heard of him.
He was uh, now you and you wereyou moved to?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
nashville when you were uh, how old.
Well, uh, I was turning 19 andthe.
The reason that I can rememberis because the minute I left
california from Welk show andmoved to Nashville, the drinking
age changed.
Oh, it leads to 21.
So, yeah, I mean I got to missout on everything.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I remember I got under that curtain.
I was born, so I know if I gotunder that you know.
So cool that you know so cool.
Well, when and tony you were, Imean, this was uh, uh, you know
where are you from originally.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Now, I was well, I grew up in el paso, um, lived in
a jersey for a while st louismozera and uh.
Finally, I graduated from elpaso once, uh, I joined the Army
.
I was in the Army for a while.
I just moved around.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Thank you for your service.
Yeah, man, thank you, I saw youjumping on airplanes Jumping
out.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
He's crazy.
That's what that means.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, that was a long time ago.
On purpose, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Oh good.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, I was kind of pushed out?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Just like the Toby Keith thing a boot in your you
know over there, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, man, two things I love about you is lead guitar
.
I love a good guitar player,and you were tearing it up the
last couple of nights, and thefact that you jump out of
airplanes makes it even morecool.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
That'd be a show jump out out of airplane while
playing guitar.
That would be cool yeahwouldn't that be something?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
how did you end up?
How did you and john come cometogether?
I know we had.
We had another bandmate herewho had- to leave uh verge who's
?
Also uh, attorney, and he, uh.
That's where you get.
We build the show as John Smith, presley and the at at laws and
(04:31):
some people ask me questions.
What is that man?
I don't think anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Because they're attorneys.
Well, I try to surround myselfwith attorneys, just in case.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well, I noticed that.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
You get that case yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
That's what I said last night.
I said it's like the SecretService you got the president,
but he's surrounded by attorneys.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
That's pretty cool, though, but they're helping you
establish what you need toestablish to determine and prove
exactly who you are.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
But which came first?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Did you need them as a guitar player or an attorney?
That's a really good question.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
We were just friends.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
We met about 10 years ago, oh really A little town
called Black Canyon City.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Arizona.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Arizona.
Yeah, we're always staying justnorth of Phoenix, between
Phoenix and Flagstaff.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And just to brag on you for a minute, tony, you were
the commander of the postcorrect in Black Canyon City.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, there's an American Legion post and a VFW
post there in Black Canyon City.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I'm currently the commander of the American Legion
there.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Wow, man, interesting .
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That's really cool, that is really good, that is
cool and believe it or not,virgil, who's the guitar player,
bass player, and so wonderful.
Virgil was not only in themilitary, but he was also a,
wasn't he a?
Colonel?
He?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
was a lieutenant colonel.
Lieutenant colonel.
Lieutenant colonel.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And then Virgil was also a commander at a post in
another town in Arizona, but wedidn't none of us knew each
other.
Wow, it was insane.
So I'm in a little town calledDewey Humboldt, and Dewey
Humboldt in Arizona is kind ofbetween Flagstaff and Scottsdale
(06:15):
, more on the Flagstaff sidethan the Scottsdale.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Is that the northern part?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's kind of in the middle.
But going north and I go to alittle American Legion hall and
I get up and sing a couple songsbecause I got a little open mic
night, and this gentleman comesover and he goes hey, my name
is Virgil and I'd like to meetyou, so of course I throw the
(06:43):
story out there.
Next, thing I know, know, hegoes.
Well, I play a little guitartoo well, little did I know he
says a little guitar not littleof guitar he played, but so
amazing guitar absolutely Idiscovered that over the weekend
?
yeah, and then at the same timewith tony I'm black canyon city
at american legion VFW Hall,where he's the colonel, and we
(07:05):
did a little show.
And the next thing I know I'mlike then how come we don't have
a group or a band or something?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Let's get any other and.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Virgil said well, because we don't have any money
to make a band.
And so the next thing, you know, tony goes.
Well, I don't have any moneyeither, but I'm in the band.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Oh, that's, awesome.
So there we are yeah.
Wow, that's a great T-shirt.
I don't have any money, but I'min the band.
I'm in the band, exactly.
That's a great T-shirt.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, so, and you guys?
As far as attorney privilege,do you have some benefits
besides guitar?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yes, have some benefits besides guitarists.
Yes, nothing leaves the table,oh.
No you mean benefit like what?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
What do you mean, bill?
You have any lawyer benefits?
Do you get any kind of advicefrom these guys?
They tell you.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Heck yeah.
Actually it's not really advice, it's more like orders.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Oh yeah, Plus these military guys.
Yeah, I'd be kind of oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And when you got one of them that was a colonel, I
mean a lieutenant colonel.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, I think me and Tony both listened A couple
times, I think it's veryimpressive that you have Such a
team that does surround you thatare really working On your
benefit, for your behalf, toreally establish who you Say you
are with the proof that youhave.
It's very impressive how thesemen have military or whatever
(08:32):
but have guarded you, and thenwe have to add rich to it.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Oh, absolutely, it's quite a big team.
It is a huge team that's comingtogether.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And maybe you could have dreamed that big.
Maybe you couldn't have, butthis is going to be a legal
thing, and that's what we havereally understood and how much
we're excited about it for you.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And you know, I would have never imagined that at my
age now, and of course it's, youknow, like I'm like 30.
And of course it's you knowlike I'm like 30.
But anyway, I would have neverimagined that a team of these
incredible people or guys wouldcome together.
I mean, we have Rick Parrish,who's incredible with Capstone
(09:20):
Films and things like that.
We have Virgil Eiler, who is anattorney.
We have Tony Petty.
We have Rich Karberg, who wrotemy first book called Let the
Boy Sing.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And he's about to republish that right.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It's been republished now.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Oh, really Okay.
We have a new cover.
We have to know where we canfind that.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, you can find that at our website.
It's called lettheboysingco.
Yeah, now, not com.
Oh, I got it.
Yeah, I like to say co, becauseif you put it in com, well,
it'll still work.
But we got the CO, and now I'mthinking to myself so who is the
(09:57):
CO?
Yeah, I'm not sure it would gothere or not, it's probably our
wives.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, I saw that it would go there or not.
It's probably our wives.
It's a very, very good answer.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And I was telling some folks at the show.
I mean, I know, you know, thefirst episode we recorded with
you was when Virg called me inAugust of this year 2024, and he
told, well, no, I'm sorry.
He first emailed me and and asI read it, the further I read it
, the crazier it got I startedlaughing Actually.
(10:31):
I kept going down.
I thought I was like is hemaking a joke or something, you
know?
And then he said, I know thisis hard to believe, but give me
a call.
And so I went out and calledhim and yeah, and so he kind of
filled me in and that's a lot ofthat's on the first episode
explaining that.
But uh, actually I didn't knowuntil uh, some you know this at
(10:53):
the show this past weekend isthat he had the credibility of
both you guys.
You know, I didn't reallyunderstand.
No, no, hadn't met verge.
Well, I met verge.
I mean sorry, I hadn't met tony, but the fact and Verge was
telling me about the law firmhis brother, I think that he was
partners with, argued a casewith the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
They did and they won .
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I mean, oh my gosh, how many times has that happened
?
No, and so the credibility.
I think to me in my mind, I'mjust saying I think to me in my
mind, I'm just saying well, youknow, both you guys are very
serious.
You're not, you know, like abetter call Saul or exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Well, you know what's a.
What's really amazing, too, isis that that I I sit here today
thinking to myself you know, I'm, I'm, I was.
I was so blessed through lifeand I had so many opportunities
and so many things happened andso many things became such
wonderful moments in my life,and now I even have more blessed
(11:54):
and more moments.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, man, I mean a lot of artists would love to
have the support.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
That's how you know it's time.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Exactly Because it all came together.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
You weren't out hunting, you were just being you
doing your thing.
I just see a nucleus cometogether.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, it's like the eagles, they say the eagle takes
and puts thorns in the nest toget the babies out there to fly.
So they can have some morebabies, I guess.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
but well, we wanted to use that name for the band,
but some these other guys had itso they were like you can't use
that one.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
You know, I think yeah well, uh, back up, I was
gonna try to remember.
I don't remember of course it'sbeen a couple months, but uh, I
know the the numbers on thepodcast and we've got I've
gotten some comments andquestions, uh, but are the good
numbers yeah, yeah, this is theway to podcast work.
Anybody out there in the worldof podcast?
(12:53):
no, I mean, we're, we were in ayou know the minor, the well,
the top 50, but it's hard to geta, an episode that doesn't
plateau, and the first episodeif no one's heard that, that was
in August 26, published so youcan go back and listen.
But by the time you hear this,it will be exceeding 100,000, no
(13:17):
doubt, and so we just wanted todo a little follow-up.
Because of the questions and,to be honest, I can't remember
all the questions, but I've gota few of them here um, and and
some of them were, um, that wetalked about, you know like who
the lawyers, you know people,like when you say, oh yeah, this
lawyer did that.
Well, their lawyers actuallyhave names and they're real
(13:38):
lawyers you know, exactly
Speaker 3 (13:39):
yeah they're real people, they're like we're not
yeah they're very nice.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well, some of the questions, I see we had someone
that was saying well, I'm justtrying to remember, now I'm just
going to throw some things atyou just because of all the last
couple months.
But someone said well, thebirth certificate that you have
is what?
Did they say 1980-something?
And they said do you have theoriginal, or how does that work?
(14:08):
Do you get?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
well, I was actually born in 1961 and evidently in
1961.
Back in those days it was alittle bit different, you know
when a child was adopted.
So when once I was adoptedshortly in 1961.
I think, tony, it's the wordcalled sealed or seal the
(14:30):
records are sealed.
The records are sealed, as theysay, and so it took our.
We had an investigator that wemet a few years ago Well,
actually he's been now with usfor and he's on our board.
He's been with us now foralmost 17 years and I met him
(14:51):
through a beautiful, wonderfullady.
Her name is Susan Safford, andSusan Safford was the first
Vanna White, if you remember theflip those letters you know,
guy or girl, you know.
If you remember the flip, thoseletters, you know guy or girl,
you know.
And so, meeting her and she'slike you know, john, if you want
to prove who you are, you needto talk to this gentleman
(15:14):
because he is the investigatorof the stars in California, he's
I spy international, he's he'sthe moment and he will find out
either you're real or you're not.
Well, he found out that youknow what it's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Who His?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
name's Paul.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Cohen, how long ago did that start?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
The first time we spoke with Paul Cohen was almost
17 years ago.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, and then he came on board.
So you do know, it's time nowthat all these people have
pulled together.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah 13 and a half years ago Now.
Why would it take so long?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Well, we had so much information and data and so on
and so forth, and back in theday, even 13 years ago, dna was
something that no one reallygets or proves or has.
I mean, it was a little moreskeptical than it is today.
Today, dna is factual, it'sperfect, it's like right on.
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And over the 13-year course ofhis investigative work and so on
and so forth.
And bless him.
I'm telling you right now he'sa fabulous, fabulous person.
He obtained the DNA, he madethose things happen and now
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we're here.
We are.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So he's a real guy too.
That's just something else,people you know, that's what I'm
saying.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
He's a real human.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So it has some people say, oh, who are these people?
And they say you can make upanybody's name.
So that's cool.
We got the names of yourlawyers, which are your
bandmates, and the investigatorwe know.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Elvis had people surrounding him that they put in
place.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And so I have to believe, now and even later in
my life, now that Elvis I've,now I have people surrounding me
that are putting the things inplace.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, and just for people maybe like me that can't
remember all the details, on theguy named HT, that he was kind
of seemed like, if I rememberright, he was protecting you or
something.
And where did he come from andhow did he?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Well, you know years and years and years ago my, of
course, for those who may notknow a little bit of the story,
maybe I can just throw it outthere really quickly.
But so my adopted father wasGladys Lefsmith Presley.
Elvis's mother, gladys LefsmithPresley's brother, was my
adopted father and he was from alittle town called San
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Augustine, texas, which islocated, you know, down in Texas
, and they have this lake calledSam Rayburn Lake and he's out
fishing because he was afisherman and hunter, you know,
back in the day, and he'sfishing with his buddy, don
Baker.
And he and Don Baker aretalking a little bit about my
career because I'd gone on theLawrence Welk show at age 15.
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I walked on stage at the HearstColiseum in Shreveport,
louisiana, and I sang a songwhich was a big accident because
I'd gone from the restroom tothe stage.
Accidentally, because I cameout in the wrong spot.
Now, later, maybe we'll eventalk about the restroom stuff,
because I have a lot of greatmoments happening in the
restroom.
But so here we are, things aregoing along and it's time for me
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to leave the Welk show and goto Nashville.
So, at age 19, I go toNashville.
So this fishing guide in a boatwith my adoptive father, are
discussing my career and heturns and says the fishing guide
.
Well, you know some guys inNashville.
You went to school with them,you know.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
You need to call these guys, so that's HT.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, so you need to call HT.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
What's HT's last name ?
Does he go by HT or does he goby?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Can we edit stuff if we mess up?
No, I'm kidding, if you can'tsay it.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Did he say HT or ID?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Well, ID was my adoptive father.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Right, I'm sorry, you confused me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
HT became my manager.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Right, but were they the two talking about your
career?
I'm confused on who was talking.
No, no.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
My adoptive father ID was talking with Don Baker, who
was the fisherman.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Oh, okay, okay.
So I totally I was going tomiss that.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And he says I got some, we know some guys in
Nashville and of course myadoptive father.
At that point, I think, waslike who the heck do we know,
you know, and one thing leads toanother and then I get
introduced to these gentlemen inNashville that were amazing.
Maybe we probably won't say thename of the label, but they
were one of the strongest labelsin Nashville as an independent
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label ever in the history ofNashville.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, I know who they are.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, actually.
So I agree.
And one thing leads to another.
And they invite me to come andsing, and I sing some songs, I
record some music.
Another and they invite me tocome and sing, and I've seen
some songs, I record some musicand actually my first record, a
little song called californiacalling, went on the billboard
charts and was actually promotedby a gentleman named pete
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bennett or who actually promotedthe first time billboard chart
song of suspicious minds forElvis.
So these gentlemen, I come tofind out later in life that
there was a connection even fromthe start.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Oh yeah.
Well that's interesting now.
And, uh, the guy that theinvestigator on the DNA, I mean
in the court system, um, on theDNA, I mean in the court system.
I was going to ask Tony.
Someone said one comment wasanybody can get DNA, which I
don't even know what thatcomment means, but I mean I
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guess, if you're going to go tocourt, this guy was certified to
testify Forensic scientist.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Forensic scientist to be able to present Forensic
scientist.
Forensic engineer.
So yeah, they're able topresent Forensic engineers.
The findings in court, so justanybody can't just come to court
and say it's real.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Well, they can, but they're going to get torn apart
if they're lying.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
So there's no way to manipulate DNA.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Well, it's not 100% foolproof.
Well, it's not 100% foolproof,but it is so close that most
courts will rely on thatevidence.
As opposed to what is it?
The lie detector test.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, you can't even take that into court anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
But then they take the other evidence, as Tony can
probably tell you.
They take the other establishedevidence, attach that to a DNA,
and then you usually and I'mguessing I'm not an attorney,
that's why I have a whole bunchof them in my band, you know but
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then they attach all thatevidence and then all of a
sudden the courts or the judgesays okay, that looks pretty
good to me.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
You need to look at this.
Yeah Well, I mean, I know I sawsome evidence and I don't know
if we can talk about it, but Isaw some evidence while
everybody's been together thisweekend that you can't.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Your photographs and stuff.
Yeah, photographs and differentthings and you just can't argue
about it.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I mean you just kind of.
I mean all you do is just lookat it and go oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
It is what it is.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
It is what it is, but you can't unsee it.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I mean you just can't unsee it.
I mean, okay, like today, eveneven being in the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
How much fun that was , because those little old
ladies oh my gosh, you madetheir world well, I hope they're
listening, because they were soadorable.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Oh they were, and they're just so sweet because
I'm like hey, you know, this isElvis' son and they're like
Texas Roadhouse what, what?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
tell us the story, texas.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Roadhouse right there .
In what town is it?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Alcoa, tennessee.
But what's funny was I had toscoot over because Billy had to
get out, so I had to scoot overinto their table.
I'm like, hey, ladies, how youdoing.
Sorry, I have to invade yourspot just a minute, but I'm
letting him out and whatever.
And so I slid off and he cameback and had to slide back over.
I'm like, oh, hey, how y'alldoing again.
Sorry, I didn't mean to crashyour party again, but hey guess
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what they were so sweet you everheard of Elvis.
And this lady was like oh, Ilove Elvis.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I loved Elvis.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I'm like well, that's his son.
And she was like what, no, what.
And the other lady said makehim take his hat off.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I think she even whispered to you.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I said he kind of looks like him.
I know she did.
I said I don't know if I makehim do that because guys just
don't like to take their hatsoff.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
It was a bad hair day .
Speaker 4 (24:06):
You were so sweet and you're just like, well, I
hadn't fixed it yet.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
But I was wearing a Billy Hubbard baseball cap.
Oh, absolutely, but she wantedto see you without the hat.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
She wasn't looking for your hair.
She wanted to see if you lookedlike Elvis.
And that's when she said hedoes look like Elvis.
And the other lady says can hesing?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Sarah said let the boy sing.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I said well, yeah, just pull him up here.
Hey, john, will you sing forthese ladies?
Yeah, that was kind of whichgot an applause through Texas
Roadhouse.
It was awesome.
They were like oh, I've beengetting text messages all
afternoon.
Well, I must say, if anyone ishere.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Sarah, you look like Lee Zimmerman grabbing these
buttons over there.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I only did it because he told me to You're not fully
trained on that board.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I thought I was on the Montel show for a moment,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I was trying to remember stuff from the first
episode and different questionspeople ask.
And let's see, one of thethings was well, we touched on
it about the legality, about thesealing thing, and I guess, how
does that work?
Does the parent, if you adoptsomebody who decides to unseal
it?
Is that like you know?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Well, each jurisdiction is different, but
the whole purpose of sealing therecords is for privacy.
You don't want to.
The birth parents don't wanteverybody to know what they did,
who they are, the whole reason.
They have their reasons for it.
I can understand that.
Yeah, so they seal the records.
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So it's not public information.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, and then to unseal them.
Is that what you guys are?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
trying to unseal.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well, what actually happened was, through Paul's
investigations and so on and soforth, paul finds the young lady
that was actually at the TexasDepartment of Human Resources at
the time that my file was filed.
So we obtained two letters thatone said the restricted closed
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file and then one said thenon-restricted closed file.
So at that point it was kind ofgame on, and of course again,
I'm not in that attorney mode,but I'm thinking game on means
maybe we'll find something out.
Well, we won't say names,because you know, when you name
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names you might get yourself alittle box or they may want
their own privacy.
But, this young, this sweet,amazing young lady was there at
the time of my birth file beingfiled and she felt that, you
know, the people involved were alittle more over the top than
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the norm and so she kind of madea little copy.
And it was so great because atthe same time when Paul did his
investigation, she was the ladythat he spoke to and then
shortly after that she retired,not giving him the information
(27:20):
at that first point, but at thesecond point she then reached
out and she sent us the file.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Oh, okay, wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, so bless her heart.
Oh my gosh, she that's a lot.
Yeah, so bless her heart.
Oh my gosh.
She's like my bestest friend.
I've never met.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
You know what I'm saying?
Oh yeah, of course, right, sonow is all the evidence I know.
And you just got the new siteyou mentioned, lettheboyssingco.
Right, do you have is it?
Are you putting all theevidence, like the pictures?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
and things.
Yeah, there's like somequestions, there's evidence,
there's the you know whatheckfire.
I think we even have my birthcertificate on there.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
What was in her file?
Well, back in the day in the60s, evidently, a mother and a
father of a child, married ornon-married, had to show proof
of who they were from thehospital's point of view for
birth certificate's sake andwhatnot.
And then there were actuallysome originals of some very
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profound documentation whichtotally gave them the proof that
not that we needed, but that wewanted to have.
Just foreclosure of my own self, my own person.
So there was a driver's license, there was a military card,
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there were different things likethat.
That pretty much gave me notonly closure but confirmation.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Do you have pictures, photos of that or?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
do you have the originals?
We do.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
But they kept the cards and different things, oh,
do you now.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So is there, but is there evidence that you're not
able to post at this time onyour site?
I mean, is there some evidenceof what?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
There's some that I don't know that they would post,
due to, you know, privacies ormoments you know, for just our
own moment.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
But there's some things that have to be legally
cleaned up, right.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
But there's some things that have to be legally
cleaned up, right, but there aresome you might go there just to
look, because it's kind of cool.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
We did, it was cool.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, there's some things that just from talking to
Burge, he mentioned stuff thatmade me think there was more out
there that everybody hadn'tseen yet.
Okay, and another anotherquestion.
I just remembered that uh, thatcame off the, the web, you know
, from people listening to thepodcast, is uh someone, uh, I
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don't know the guy's name, buthe just like had all this stuff
about the elvis's timeline.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It's like he must have knew where it was every
minute of the day and he posted.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
He said this can't be possible because he said Elvis
in January I mean July of 1961at this time was Was that a
wedding, supposedly Somewhere?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
July 2nd.
Filming a wedding, Filming amovie and such yeah and so.
Well, the great thing is,here's what kind of happened.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
He said he didn't like to fly.
That's what it was.
He said he would always drivebecause he was afraid of flying
Right.
I actually didn't know that.
Well, I knew he had an airplaneprivate plane.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And he didn't fly himself, but he did get on an
airplane.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
The really cool thing was is that there are only from
what I'm being told.
Of course, back in that day Iwas a little bit young, you know
, to figure out what's going onor who's talking about who but
November 14th, 15th and 16th of1960, elvis.
Those are the only three datesthat Elvis was unaccounted for,
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and when I mean unaccounted forsurrounded by his entourage or
his people that you know tookcare of him and he worked with.
I came along on July 3rd of1961.
And prior to that, because alot of people will say well you
know, on July 2nd of 1961, elviswas at a wedding of one of his
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guys.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
He was at a movie set .
Somebody said At a movie setbut there was also a wedding
yeah, but on July 3rd.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
That gentleman and Elvis were from what I'm being
told were at my birth.
There was this reallysweetheart lady who was the
nurse at the time and I didn'tknow this until way later in my
life, but she had taken aphotograph because— oh, I would
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have snuck one too.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
It was elvish.
You would have to, yeah, sothat's what he was talking about
earlier yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Her son was a priest and several years back, even
during the Paul Cohen moments ofinvestigating stuff, this young
man reached out to us.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
So we have those photos, we have those.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Okay, so those are probably the legal things that
Virge couldn't show us, right,because he showed me a few, but
he said— so I'm in trouble fortalking about it.
No, no, he was just saying thatthere was more that he couldn't
show or share, because you allhave got to get some things
cleaned up shortly.
From what he was saying, it waslike next week or something.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Oh, I know.
Oh, here's what the other oneis.
I just remember now.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
And I can't remember there's so many I forgot.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
But one person said I guess they saw a picture of you
or something, and they saidwait a minute, that can't be
that year, because Elvis didn'thave sideburns until a certain
time in life.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Right, so you can grow sideburngs in a week.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Well, hell was a cyborg.
You could probably grow thosein like an hour.
Oh, I think it was a oh it wasa picture, and to be, honest I
should know this, because it'sbeen like two months.
I can't remember but a pictureof you know, him holding you
maybe yeah, I was actuallywrapped in a blanket, oh yeah,
and I was actually wrapped in ablanket.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Oh yeah, and you still have that blanket.
I think I remember you.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Oh, I did see that that was one of the pictures he
showed was your blanket.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
And well, that's cool .
Speaker 4 (33:42):
And Gladys was holding you.
No, no, no no, no, grandma hadpassed many, many years prior.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Even my birth.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Oh, okay, I'm sorry or even my birth.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh, okay, I'm sorry, or even my conception Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, there's a few pictures where I was wrapped in
a blanket.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
You know, the nurse held me and my dad held me and
my mom held me.
Oh yeah, so that exact blanketis in the photo.
I think we need to go back andcheck it out.
Man, that's pretty cool.
Hold, the blanket is in thephoto.
I think we need to go back andcheck it out.
Man, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Hold the photo up to the microphone, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, look at that.
Look at that man.
Oh, that's pretty cool.
Well, I'm just trying to gothrough a few questions.
Let's see what else was.
Let me look here.
These are things from the show.
Last night we had some peoplewrite down questions.
Everyone knows where he she waswhen Elvis died.
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Where were you?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
You know, on the date of his supposed death I was
with the Lawrence Welk show butI was coming home, back home.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
And not knowing who I was.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I was coming back home to Louisiana.
At this point, no, not knowingand realizing really who I was,
because I didn't find out untillater in life I was 27.
But so I'm on an airplanecoming back from the Lawrence
Welk show where I performed, andof course they announced it
over the intercom.
(35:25):
Oh really, yeah, Kind of like30,000.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
And you didn't know that you were his son, then no,
oh, wow, well.
Everybody, yeah, kind of like30,000 people.
And you didn't know that youwere his son, then no, oh, wow
Well everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
It's kind of like.
When Kennedy was shot Iremember I was in on the school
bus and I felt sick as a littlekid.
I didn't know why, I just wassad.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I have to say I teared up, even though I didn't
know who it.
Well, let's see.
I want to look at anotherquestion.
It said is all the evidenceyou're the son of El was public.
Yet I think I might havesomething like that early,
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because I'm not sure I'm goingto go out on a limb and say that
at least 80 to 90% of it is outthere.
Yeah, you know, and I guess theother percentage is if they
don't want to believe that Elvismight have had, you know,
another child besides the youknow, of course wonderful.
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Lisa Marie, then hey, yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
That's your choice.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
That's your choice, that's your moment, but I have
to tell you in my lifetime as anentertainer which not even
knowing most of it that I wasconnected in that way.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
I've had a lot of fun , so.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I'm going to guess that someone of his magnitude,
you know probably had a littlebit of fun too.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, yeah, and this is one from last night too.
I think someone said didColonel Parker know about you?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And yes, as a matter of fact, I think last night at
the show we showed a littlephoto there.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Virg showed a little photo there.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, Virg showed me that picture yesterday
, with Carl Parker holding us.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Well.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
I have a question.
So I saw he also showed me apicture of you on Elvis' bus.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Did you ever at some point in your life, even maybe
after that, think why was I onElvis's bus?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
You know, amazingly enough, my adoptive parents were
connected Because, first of all, they were family, and so all
my adoptive fathers sang in theDeep South Quartet, which later
became some quartets you know,of names for Elvis so.
I was connected.
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I saw things.
I was, you know, privy tothings.
I was, you know, at certainthings, and so on, and so forth,
but the reality of this is I'mbelieving in my heart and my
moment that you know, thesepeople that have taken me
adopted me and even from day one, when we were old enough to
understand, they told us that wewere adopted, which was
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fabulous.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Kind, very kind.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
And so, from that moment on, I just hung out and
respected the most gloriousmoments that I had as a child.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Okay, that makes sense.
I mean, we all have odd familymemories and it's just because
we're connected to the family,exactly.
I mean I understand that.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Well, this is something I wanted to ask.
Tony.
So I mean you know, of course,being trained as you are, you
hear a lot of stories and youimagine that you kind of get
pretty good gut feelings fortruth.
I mean, if you say, if you knowyou never met John before, I
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mean I don't know, putting youon the spot here, but then you
beat him.
Yeah, I mean, would you feelconfident you could win this
case?
You know, if you had to provebased on what you've seen, Well,
that's a tricky question.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
I'm confident that I could win this case.
Based on what I've seen, I haveno doubt in my mind that John
is legitimate.
I've known him for quite awhile and he and I are friends.
First of all, I've known him,like I said, for 10 years and we
play guitar, sing karaoke andjust get in trouble together.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
We're two friends At Southwest Airlines, by the way.
Is that a commercial?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
So I'm not with him because of who he claims he is.
I just like the guy.
We're just buds.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
But I believe him Based on the evidence Based on
the evidence.
I've seen and the people I'vetalked to and everything that's
gone into this, but at the sametime, I know how difficult it is
too.
Are you going up against, uh,people who are trying to protect
their interests?
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And I can understand that, yeah, so it wouldn't be easy.
Whether the you know it's trueor not.
Like I said, I believe it's.
It is, but it is, it's notgoing to be easy.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I guess I meant your per.
You know your personal opinionbased on because I know what you
mean.
I guess you guess you get ajury.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yes, you never know what they're going to do but
exactly your personal experience, so I thought you know
personally, I, I, I think if wecould present the evidence like
we have, like everything we have, and we have intelligent people
evaluating all this, with ajudge Jerry, I have no doubt
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that they would believe him andsay that he is Elvis' son.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Well, that's cool, because that's really a trust,
that's really amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
If I can just throw something out here.
What's really amazing is, firstof all, tony, thank you so much
for that.
But secondly, you know what?
Even if there's a doubt, I meaneven if someone's like adamant
and says, oh my goodness, elvisonly had one child, right, yeah,
and of course he had one child,but he had more than one child.
But the one child he had wasamazing.
The one child he had wasspecial.
(41:34):
The one child that he had wasincredible.
But even with that said, ifit's for lack of better words, a
naysayer is that how they saythat Like a naysayer or someone
negative on that point, you knowwhat?
Then that's their personalopinion and we are all entitled
(41:57):
to that opinion.
My moment from my heart wouldbe see the story, read the story
, yeah see the man understandthe man and the story that the
man is telling, and then makeyour own decision, because,
(42:17):
because, that's, that's why,we're in america, just just make
your own decision yeah, andpersonally, I mean everybody
that knows me personally and I'mI'm I'm very skeptical about
anything but Verge.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
of course, you know you have two great guys here
that are very credible, so thatto me, if I was, I always think.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I got a whole team of guys too, Not just these two
great ones.
Oh yeah, I see what you'redoing.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
You're building this team, I heard a lot about that.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
The rest of them are amazing, oh my, of guys too, not
just these two.
Oh yeah, building this team Iheard about that.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Amazing, oh my gosh well anyway, I I just want
people to you know to understandthe best they can.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (43:01):
and I think people should probably hear this coming
from me too billy and andthat's this, you know what make
a decision if decision, if youneed to make a decision, or just
go with the story or don't gowith the story, you know, be
negative against that, but let'sall not really totally be
negative, but let's all justhang out, let's just all have
(43:24):
fun.
Let's just all say to ourselvesyou know what Good, bad story,
indifferent story, crazy story,ridiculous story or
non-ridiculous, proven story,non-ridiculous story Very
interesting story.
Yes, very interesting story, butin result, you know what?
Let's all just love each other.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
And be a part Exactly Kumbaya thing you know, you
know what.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
Before you throw the story out, look at the evidence.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Look at it and you know, Because you know what I
mean.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Even in a court of law, that's the first thing they
would tell you.
You know, I think, and I'm nota judge, but I've watched a
little Judge Judy, you know.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
You know, tony.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, and I know Tony .
Speaker 4 (44:11):
And my thought would be this.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
My thought would be you know what.
Here's some evidence.
If you're on that jury, youlisten you take it in you make a
decision.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Research Do some research.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Right or wrong, you make that decision.
Good or bad, you make thatdecision.
You know what?
But any decision that someonemight make or wants to make, or
creates or makes, if I'mstanding there in front of the
court and the court says who areyou?
(44:44):
And I hand them a packet, theyreview that packet and they say
to themselves, oh my gosh, thisis because you know what.
Some things you just can't makeup, do you know?
Speaker 4 (44:58):
that someone's opinion of the evidence does not
change who you are.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Correct, correct.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
And so it doesn't matter what their decisions are.
You are who you are.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Well, I just want to say too, but for folks out there
that listen to the podcast, Ithink they know we have some
major artists on here and we'renot like a Jerry Springer
podcast, so this is a seriousthing.
Thank goodness I won't be aJerry Springer, but I just want
people to realize thecredibility that I would not
(45:32):
have you even on here, if I tome, if to me money, like you say
, if you don't put money onsomething, then you know what
you believe that faith is hardhe would not have had you at the
station yeah, but becausethat's where his reputation is
way out there it's like thecoming up election, you know.
You know.
I saw something on the newsabout the people that bet on it,
the odds makers.
I think, well, if I was goingto put money on it, I must
(45:55):
believe you, because I would putmy money, you know, if I had
you know, a couple
Speaker 3 (46:01):
bucks.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, I put it over here on you and be in truth,
mainly because I've seen stuff.
I don't know if it's out thereyet, but I'm just talking to
these guys.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Well, you know, when we played the station two days
ago and then last night, I wouldhope that everyone in the
audience, in both audiences,that what they took home was you
know what.
Whether they believe or theydon't believe, I hope that our
music touched their heart, Ihope our music gave them
(46:37):
something to take home and smileabout whether they're a
naysayer or a heck yeah-tsayer?
Yeah, man.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Well, a lot of people we spoke to last night, were
very excited to have heard youand to have met you.
Wonderful group oh my gosh, youknow what?
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, I'll go on record but we can bleep this out
later.
You know that I'm 63 years oldand I've gone to everything from
the Lawrence Welk Show as achild to Nashville, to recording
records, to making songs, towriting songs, to playing in
bands and so on and so forth.
And last night and night beforelast, I will have to say, was
(47:16):
magical because oh cool everyone, everyone I saw in that
audience everyone I met everyoneI spoke to, and then some were
the most kindest, most wonderfulpeople I've ever been connected
to.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
They are a fabulous group of people and they
appreciate music so much.
You know, it took me a coupleyears to figure out.
I had to shut up, you know,because I didn't grow up with
any appreciation orunderstanding of music because
of my raising um, but he, billy,taught me so much.
(47:57):
I mean, I, I, I used.
I mean if I was going to listento anything, it would have been
80s rock and you know what's sogreat.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
what you just said about you know being quiet at a
time.
My moment at this point wouldbe this you know what?
Hey, let the boy sing.
Oh yeah, and then you make thedecision of whether you're on
board or you're not on board.
But even if you're not on board, you're still on heart, right,
(48:30):
and this you know.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
we could, you know, go through questions all night
and there's always.
They're never going to end.
So I'm not trying to convinceanybody.
I just want everybody to lookat you know, as you get your
website going.
Go to your website, which islettheboysingco, and I'm sure
it's going to just get set up.
(48:52):
I mean, this is kind of like abreaking kind of news thing
because you just got yourwebsite set up.
It is.
The website the Facebook, yourteam you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
There's other things on there, Spot of Something,
Insti-somethingbody or whateverthose are and
Insti-somethingbody or whateverthose are.
So Sarah proposed the questionto me of the night that
supposedly Elvis met my motherand was with my mother.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
Yeah, no, that's a serious question.
Everyone wants to know that one.
Oh, it's a famous question.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
So my moment and attitude and answer would be
this First of all, I wasn'tthere just yet, but shortly
after I kind of came along.
So in between that time I willhave to say this, because I just
want to go on record I believethat not only is Elvis Presley
(49:47):
the greatest entertainer thathas ever hit our world, I agree.
Not only is he one of the mostspectacular performers ever in
our world, he captured the world.
Yes.
Speaker 4 (50:04):
He captured them.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
And from the things that I've heard from his moments
of oh my gosh, I passed bysomeone and bought them a car,
or I met someone that needed ahome.
I would like to go on recordand my attorney buddies are
going to go.
(50:25):
Oh, you know what that happenswhen you say you go on a record.
Well, I will confirm thismoment.
You know what?
Whether he did somethingcorrect or wrong, I believe his
heart was in the proper place.
Speaker 4 (50:40):
Oh yeah, yes, that's why everyone loved him, because
he was genuine.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Exactly, he was a giving heart.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
And that's what I hope.
Good or bad, indifferent,believable or not, that's what I
hope to accomplish.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
I believe that waitress at Texas Roadhouse
thought that today.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Maybe, so, Now just to update what's happened in the
last, I don't know, in the lastcouple months, since you were
were here before.
To follow up on the other firstepisode is what?
Uh, like I remember you saidyou're, you guys were getting a
committee together.
I mean, can you kind of updateus on what?
Speaker 2 (51:21):
well, we we have.
We now have a board ofdirectors.
Um, they're the most wonderfulpeople in my mind, most
wonderful people ever that I'vebeen connected with, although
I've been connected with a lotof wonderful people.
So we have a board of directors.
We're talking with a wonderful,wonderful actor producer named
(51:46):
Silk Cozart.
We have a brand new buddy thatwe met when we first came here
to Knoxville, you know, backthen in August Danger, dr Danger
, who's been on the show.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
Gosh, what a nice man he is.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
He's been on America's Got Talent like four
or five times.
Speaker 4 (52:04):
He was so nice A stuntman right, well, I'm
thinking to myself.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
well, first of all, he blows himself up and catches
on fire, so that's kind of scary.
Speaker 4 (52:11):
But that's why he has short hair, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
So we don't let him drive the bus or anything.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
You know just in case .
And he was here to film yourshows at the station For Netflix
.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
We've got a little trailer thing I think they call
that.
That's being presented as wespeak.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Oh, you're being created To Netflix Okay.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
For a little drama documentation.
Yeah, our movie is right outthere.
It's coming in 2025.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
As far as the movies, I think we were talking that
Warner Brothers may distributeit or produce it.
Now you're thinking it mayswitch to Twitter.
Well, the hope was that WarnerBrothers may distribute it.
Now you're thinking it mayswitch.
Well, the hope was that Warner.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Brothers would distribute it.
But now we're Silk, with hiswonderful people who surrounds
him and his casts, and so on andso forth.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
We're looking at.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
Lionsgate, lionsgate, yeah, and you know what my
response there would be.
I would be so appalled but yetso entwined if they would accept
what we're throwing out thereand what we're talking about,
what we're showing, and I thinkthey're going to, because bottom
(53:25):
line is we have a story.
Our story is and came from theday I was born until now.
Speaker 4 (53:41):
Maybe my story is controversial but my story is
honest, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
And I think America needs a story, a story, a
storyline and a presentation anda movie and a moment that today
says that's honest uh, yeah,and that's something that you
can't really get across of apodcast.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
You know, like I, of course, we know you guys and
we've hung out with you.
We actually have had a reallygreat opportunity to spend some
time with you when we did ourfirst podcast.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
We did not know you.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
And now we've had an opportunity to actually spend
some time with you and get toknow you, and you guys have been
so fabulous.
We've been in your home.
You've allowed us in your home.
Speaker 4 (54:28):
But we got an opportunity to really hear.
I have never heard so manystories in my whole dang life.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
Yeah, Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
Oh my gosh you know everybody everywhere.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
Yeah, here's.
Something I just want to say isthat we have a lot of people in
our home, but I mean justbecause of the venue and
different things in Princeton.
Speaker 4 (54:51):
Nashville and music business.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
But and we I feel like that that we can we can
judge people pretty quick, andSarah especially man, she'll
lock you in the band cave andnot let you out, but so anyway
that that kind of something thatnobody else can do.
So but I'm just saying.
I think as people see more andmore they'll understand.
(55:14):
But the bottom line is we don'tcare what the naysayers, you
know, there's nothing wrong withthat.
Everybody has their own levelof belief, you know.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
Exactly you know what , at the end of the day day, I
hope everybody takes homesomething and that would be this
if we've touched youemotionally, if we've touched
your heart, if we said somethingor sung something that has made
your life better oh yeah, likethe show last night then we've
(55:47):
done our
Speaker 1 (55:47):
job.
You did some good stuff that Icould tell.
You brought out something inthe audience there.
Well, hey, man, we're going towrap this thing up and I feel
like we may have to do a partthree, because you're kind of on
a journey here and I don't knowhow everything's coming
together.
(56:07):
I'm excited for you because youhave a everybody.
You know everybody doesn't havea legal team like you have
exactly which keep you out oftrouble.
I probably I'm needing onemyself.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
Should we announce brumer and white?
Well, if, we can edit that outif we're not supposed to.
Speaker 4 (56:22):
Yeah he's not listening I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
I'm listening I hope he's listening.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
You're gonna keep listening and I hope I hope I
get to go hang out with himagain, but anyway yeah.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
Listen, it has been a joy to get to spend time with
you and your legal people.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Thank you yeah.
Speaker 4 (56:41):
No danger, sorry, I'm out to lunch on a lot of things
when it comes to TV andwhatever.
When I asked him, I'm like, whydo they call you Danger?
He's like, well, it's Dr Dangerand I'm like, okay, why they
call you that?
And he started showing mepictures, which was terrifying.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
This has not only been an amazing journey, it's
been an amazing connection,because, from Danger to Rich, to
Rick to Tony, yeah Well, we'vemade lifelong friends.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
I think that's a great thing, man.
Speaker 4 (57:19):
We have enjoyed you it's been amazing yeah.
If it was over with today guesswhat.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
I've had a damn good time, if I can say that.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
I'm glad to see you're getting back on the stage
.
I know you're already doingstuff, but I mean, at the
station, man, you had a greatshow, so I'm happy for you and
we'll kind of hopefully comeback.
I know we're going to get evenmore questions, which I should
have printed them out, but Ijust remembered a few of them
off the top of my.
We'll kind of hopefully comeback.
I know we're going to get evenmore questions, uh, which I
should have printed them out,but I just remembered a few of
(57:53):
them off the top of my headCause we're only gonna do a
little 30 minute here to update.
But, uh, man, I appreciate bothyou guys being with us and
thank you guys and playing atour venue.
The station has been man.
That was quite a tree man.
It was beautiful weather herein East Tennessee on October
fall night, man what a can Ithrow?
Tennessee beat Alabama.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
Can I interject for one second and throw my motto
out there?
Yeah, you know, and I think mydaddy would have said this oh,
be safe, be blessed.
Yeah, man, because you blessedme.
Thank you, man.
Speaker 4 (58:30):
We've We've had.
We've really enjoyed Getting toknow you guys.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
Yeah, we've had.
It's a real treat for us.
Trust me, man, we, we We've hadhad a lot of Bud's Friends in
the music business, but this hasbeen a great.
Speaker 4 (58:44):
No, this is.
This has been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
Yeah, hey, we're gonna get out of here because
we're all getting hangry.
Speaker 3 (58:52):
Thank you guys so much.
We appreciate it.
We've had a great time.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
I can't wait to come back.
Oh yeah, man, this has beenquite a crazy ride here.
I'm just thankful that we getto know you guys and follow you
on this adventure.
But anyway, big thanks to johnsmith presley, his bandmate,
attorney friend tony petty andmy best half, sarah thank you
(59:20):
guys, thank you so much happytrails and we'll see you guys
next time.
Thank you.
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