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Season 6: Episode 1. Benji and Brad are now officially back with a bang, sharing their latest escapades and teasing a lineup of fabulous guests for Season Six. Brace yourself for a whirlwind season that promises laughter, insight, and plenty of surprises.

Curious about Ozempic and its buzz in the weight loss world? Benji and Brad break it all down for you, from the various forms of the drug to its effects on appetite and costs. The boys get real about societal pressures within the gay community and how this medication fits into the bigger picture of body standards. Whether you're considering Ozempic or just intrigued by the hype, Benji and Brad reveal all and share their experiences. 

Navigating the modern dating scene is no walk in the park, especially post-lockdown. Benji and Brad dive into the nitty-gritty of dating apps like Grindr, Tinder, and Hinge, offering a candid look at the unique challenges and mixed experiences within the gay community. From blunt rejections to unexpected connections, the boys discuss everything. Plus, don’t miss the exciting updates about the different ways you can now interact with My Big Gay Podcast - your participation makes the show even better! 

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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hello and welcome to my Big Gay Podcast with me,
Benji.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
And me, Brad, giving you the lives, the loves and
lols of living in London.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Two gays, one city.
What could possibly go?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
wrong.
We are officially back back.
Back time six.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh my goodness, I cannot get enough of that clip.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I think I'm over that clip already.
I think we've done that joke todeath.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
No, we haven't.
I think we've done it, maybe Idon't know how many times.
At least five, then why notmake it six?
Oh, but we are back every weekproperly.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I know our listeners have been waiting.
When is season six coming?
It is coming every week for theforeseeable and we've got so
much to catch up on on ouradventures we have, honestly,
we've had such a crazy, becausehow, how many months have we
been down for six?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
okay, I quit, I'm out , I'm not oh my goodness, six
seasons and he's finally quitdid we get that did we?
Record that did we get.
Send that to my lawyer now.
No, I know we are back.
It's been a very long timecoming and again, we've already
sort of sent out an episode notthat long ago and we said we're
sorry and we gave the reasons asto why we've been away, but we
are back, bigger than ever readyto sort of share our chaotic

(01:41):
lives.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
We've got some really special guests coming on this
season.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
We're so excited to have them on, but more on that a
bit later on and actually justto touch on that note, we really
do want to hear from you who doyou want on season six?
It can be whoever you want.
That if if they reply to us,we'll get them on, but literally
whoever you want.
Do you want politicians?
Do you want drag queens?
Do you want celebrities?
Who do you want?
Please send it to ours or emailus, let us know and we will
contact them and we will do ourabsolute best to get them on our

(02:06):
little podcast in our lovelylittle podcast studio.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's so, bougie, this studio.
I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I know it's really nice and they can have drinks
with us and we can just chatshit.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, love that.
And not only that, we also lovehearing in make us laugh so so
much.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
So we've got a few of those to share along the way as
well.
So watch this space.
We certainly do, but we wouldnot be able to start this season
without opening a little tinnyfor us to share.
Now I'm going to be reallyhonest with you.
We went to the corner shopbefore we came to the studio to
film and brad was like, oh, Ireally fancy this.
And he went to this freezer and, I'm not gonna lie, I thought
he was gonna grab a can ofmonster.
Now, no disrespect to anybodythat enjoys monsters, the drink,

(02:48):
if people, if you don't knowwhat the drink is, it's like a
massive can of energy drink,yeah, but um, I don't know, I
just didn't see you as a, as amonster drink, and I really, in
those few seconds, um had toquestion my uh, my uh
relationship with you, but then,not to worry, he then reached
slightly to the left and pickedup a pale orange apricot.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
So we're all good on that front.
Yeah, I can't imagine drinkinga monster.
I mean, they are massive, thosecans.
They will give me heartpalpitations for life.
Yeah, I don't need that.
But I do need this littlecheeky apricot red bull this
episode clearly sponsored by redbull, because you've also got a
nice little pink one in yourhand.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I do love a pink one in my hand and a pink one in my
mouth.
Pink one in the stink, please.
I was about to read the flavourof the drink and now I've just
got that on my mind.
That is disgusting.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
That is every person's nightmare Well, not
everyone I think some people,some people like it.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Anyway, that's enough .
Enough of that.
Come on, let's open our drinks.
Mine's forest fruits, what'syours?

Speaker 1 (03:48):
apricot and strawberry me to a tea.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
This here we go there really isn't more of a summer
sound than that.
I personally think, ah, a bitof ASMR for you.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Okay, that is absolutely gorgeous.
I've never had that in my life,but that is one for the books.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, don't worry, you can talk right over me
whilst I'm doing my ASMR bit,I'm sorry go on.
No, no, I know it's fine, I getit.
I bore you.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Now go on, Do your ASMR then for the listeners.
I can't take that seriouslyswallow.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, swallowing is a serious event.
It can go really wrong, andsome people are too scared to do
it.
I, on the other hand, in thewords of bruny spears gimme,
gimme more well, I didn'trealize you were that thirsty oh
honey, that's actually reallydelicious.
It's gonna get on very nicelyand energise the shit out of me.
Gosh, I'm swearing a lot today.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
You've gotten a bit hyper on the Red Bull.
I've only had that two seconds.
Yeah, I certainly have been.
Well, I have a story to sharewith you.
Go for it.
This blew my mind.
Have you been to one of theAmazon food shops in London?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
No, and the first time I heard about it was when I
saw your notes and it just saidAmazon shopping.
I actually have no idea whatyou're going to tell me.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
I don't know if there's other of these around
the country, I just know they'rein London.
There's a few in London and I'veseen a couple of them now since
I've been in one.
But basically you need just anAmazon account, not like a prime
one, but just a regular Amazonaccount.
You go on the app, you get abarcode and that scans you into

(05:30):
the shop.
So you can't go in unlessyou've got, unless you're an
amazon account and you it's likea normal, like corner shop, I
guess, with food, drinks,whatever alcohol, and all you
have to do is you pop things inyour basket and you walk out.
You don't scan anything,there's no cashiers, there's no
one that you pay, and then youget a little email about a few
minutes later and it's like weblah, blah out of your account
because you've been at theAmazon shop and it lists all the
things that you've taken.
No, I don't even know thescience behind it.

(05:51):
There are loads of cameraseverywhere.
It's like you're in Big Brother, so there's cameras all along
the ceilings around the side, soobviously there's people
watching and seeing what you putin your basket, or I just don't
know how they do that.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
That is terrifying.
See, my mind was blown yearsago when I found out that you
know hotel mini fridges yes,they're like weighted.
So my parents would be likedon't even touch it, don't even
pick it up to look at it,because as soon as you took it
off the shelf you knew you'dtaken it and it would go
straight onto your bill.
Wow, yeah, but I guess it can'tbe that.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
So, yeah, maybe it is I actually have no idea that is
.
That is kind of scary, kind ofscary.
That's very like futuristicworld and the whole idea is that
, um, the shops open 24 hours,any time of day.
You just scan in, you walk in,there's no staff, there's no
cashiers, you grab what you want, you leave and then it comes
out your account now I canactually see a huge benefit in
this because I don't know aboutyou, even me at my tender age of
27,.
I the lies are in full formalready.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I get nervous going to a shop to buy lube and
condoms.
I do it online now because I'mtoo.
I do get nervous, I don't know.
Don't ask me why I don't.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I literally don't know I'm staring at you to be
like why are you so ashamed ofthat?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I thought you were going to be like why are you so
ashamed of that?
I thought you'd be like why areyou buying condoms?
Um, I don't know, but I think,if I feel that way and obviously
I'm very expressive about mysex life and I've told the
world- far too many stories.
I um.
If I feel that way, lots ofother people must, and I think
that might stop some people frombuying them if they need to.
So I can actually see a hugebenefit to this.

(07:24):
However, I can imagine so muchmust get shoplifted.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I don't know how, though, because I was thinking,
oh, and even I went to picksomething up, put it in my
basket.
I was like, actually no, Idon't want that.
I put it back and got somethingelse instead.
And it still charged me for theright things.
Because when I left, I was like, oh, maybe it's going to charge
me for that thing that I pickedup.
Nope, it knew, it knew.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
That shop knew.
That is so weird.
Yeah, I'm going to have to lookinto that.
I have a bit of a techie kindof brain and that really
fascinates me.
Do you mean geek?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Some might say geek yeah, cyber nerd, but I have a
serious question to ask you Ischat making you angry, making
you moody?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
why would it be making me?
Because I know your secret.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I know your secret hunger.
I hardly know her um, do youwant to share the world what
you've uh been up to since uhseason five and now?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
okay, fine, okay, I will go into this very quickly.
I feel like it was a bit of ahot topic.
I'm very happy, I'm doingthings very carefully, but, yes,
okay, since February I havebeen living my skinny girl dream
on a Zen pic.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
So a Zen pic is a thing that keeps coming up on
all the socials.
I see drag queens are on themquite a bit.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, I mean yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Is it like the Kardashians are on them, or
something?

Speaker 2 (08:48):
No.
So there's a bit of like adivide now in the like I was
gonna say in the celeb world.
I'm not putting myself in thatworld, I'm saying like people in
the media eye, because somepeople can just happily lose
weight and change their body indifferent ways.
Some people go on very straighteating body in different ways.
Some people go on very straighteating sort of lifestyles
changes.
People go to the gym, peoplepick up whatever and some people

(09:09):
inject themselves once a week,like myself.
But um, yeah, and then somepeople get really upset when
they're like, oh, my goodness,you've like, you've done so well
that you look really healthy.
And then people in the mediajust like, well, clearly she's
on a zempic, blah, blah, blah,blah.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Oh yeah, so like Melissa.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
McCarthy recently got like it in the neck I think
from Barbara Streisand.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yes, because she was like must be a Zen pic.
Yes, I saw that BarbaraStreisand commented on her
picture like oh my goodness,you're on a Zen pic, you look
amazing.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, and to talk about drag queens, let's very
quickly touch upon katie scottclaus, who has recently gone
through an absolute incredibletransformation, looks so healthy
, just happy and active, and Iread a lot of comments on her,
especially now she's just beenannounced for global all-stars.
She gets loads of comments likeI mean, how long have you been
on the zen pic?
Where'd you get it from?
Like how did it work?
And she's like no, I'm runningevery day.
I'm living this differentlifestyle yeah I've cut back on
alcohol, I've cut back on allthese things, and I can see why
it wouldn't.
It would take away from I don'tknow I don't know what the word

(10:12):
is.
It's difficult because I don'twant to like glamorize being
skinny for and losing weight,and I don't necessarily think
people do a zempic just to getsuper skinny, but for a lot of
people it just controls yourlifestyle, which is why I.
I did it because I'm quiteactive, I do go to the gym and
stuff, but I was one of theseones that would come back home
at like 11 pm and I would justend up eating the contents of my

(10:34):
fridge for no reason and thisjust like puts a stop to that,
basically.
But um, yeah, there's loads ofstuff in the media about it.
I'm really happy to answer anyquestions.
I might even do some likevloggy, bloggy bits and bobs
vloggy bloggy bit yeah, justhello podcasters, and welcome to
benji's vloggy bloggy section,um, because I do get a lot of
questions from the small amountof people that know.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
A lot of people will now know can I ask you a few
questions about it, because I'mstill a little bit um new to
this whole thing yeah, well, youwouldn't be able to do it
because you can't stand needlesbut isn't there drug version as
well you can take?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
there is an anal option.
Yeah, is there?
Actually sign me up, sorry, sothat's the anal and then oral.
No, you can take a tablet sowhere'd you get it from?
Uh, so a lot of people gothrough that.
Be very careful here.
A lot of people go throughtheir doctors to get it.
You should have a prescriptionto be on it.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay, and can I go to my doctor and say I want a
Zempik?
No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
I don't know if they would put you on it.
See, look, this is where itgets a bit dodgy and I know what
you're doing and now we'regoing to get trolled.
But I was sent a link to get itthrough a drag queen friend,
and the rules have all changed.
Now you have to go through adoctor.
You have to go like, but I didit through like an online doctor
, so it was slightly moredifficult this sounds so dodgy

(11:48):
and people listening to this aregonna be like what the hell are
you doing?
but literally it's all aboveboard and loads of people that
are done it this way.
It's all good and golden andI'm living my best life.
But, um, what people might notrealize is in america they call
it a zempic, and then in the ukyou don't really get it called a
zempic, it's called wagovi.
It's the exact same drug.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I can't I?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
don't remember the actual name of the drug, but
it's the exact same thing.
But I did all the research andwagovi is the only fda approved
weight loss injectable drugwhich they've tried and tested
and approved it right.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
So I feel very safe taking it and am I right in
thinking that it was actually?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
this drug wasn't for weight loss originally, it was
for something else yeah, so itwas actually for diabetics and
they realized that a side effectof it was losing weight weight,
yeah.
Well, again, it's not like amagic thing.
It doesn't like burn all yourfat cells for you whilst you're
sleeping.
It just really reduces yourappetite.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Right, okay, so you take this either tablet or the
injection, and it justsuppresses your hunger, so you
just don't feel hungry.
Yeah, you don't feel hungry.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
But I mean you have to be careful on it, because you
don't feel thirsty either andobviously if you don't drink
that's really bad for you.
So you have to make sure you'redrinking like three liters of
water or a lovely pink red bull,uh, every day.
And you do have to remindyourself to eat.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I mean, sometimes you get cravings for things, but
honestly I haven't felt hungerin like yeah, quite a few months
, and how much does it cost todo?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
it is quite expensive .
Yeah, again going into themedia like sharon osborne, kelly
osborne were like fighting backat people like I can't believe
you're on Zempic.
Like loads of the housewiveswere on it and they clapped back
and were like listen, all youpeople attacking us for being on
a Zempic, you're just jealousbecause you can't afford it,
which was a very like ballsything to say, because I don't
personally think it's thatexpensive, like I'm no

(13:33):
millionaire yeah if you break itdown it's roughly like,
depending on you get it from,it's anywhere between 50 and 70
quid a week.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Okay, right, which some people spend more on at the
gym?
Those really fancy gyms inLondon are really expensive,
right?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
People that do takeaways.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Two, three, times a week and go out for dinner.
A couple of days a week, that'sit done.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
You don't need to go out for dinner, henny, because
you're not hungry anymore.
So, yeah, yeah, you put intoperspective.
But, um, listen, we'redefinitely not sponsored by
ozambic, by the way, this isjust something that we have now
brought up, uh, because I don'tknow, it is kind of a thing in
the gay world, isn't it liketrying all these new fads and
diets and whatnot?
absolutely, and there's alwaysbeen that pressure for gay

(14:15):
people to be fit and healthy andskinny, right yeah but yeah,
but I do just want to stressagain it doesn't like naturally
make you like whatever you wantto look like.
It's not going to do that.
All it will do is it willsuppress your appetite and give
you the opportunity to then makea conscious effort to eat
healthier and the right thingsto achieve, whatever physique it

(14:35):
is that you want to achieve.
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Absolutely.
Yeah, physique it is that youwant to achieve.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, if that makes sense.
Absolutely, yeah, I get that.
Yeah, anyway, my goodness, allthis talking about a zen pick
has made me well, not hungry,but want to move on with the
podcast.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
So on with the podcast so I actually still
can't believe you injectyourself once a week with this.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Do you know what?
The first time I did it it wasa bit like oh, this is a bit
weird, and you kind of get usedto it.
Is it a big needle?
No, it's like Tiny.
Yeah, it's like the size ofyour small fingernail.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Is it like the size you know when you do those at
home STD?

Speaker 2 (15:13):
It's a tiny bit longer than that.
Because a bit longer than that?
Because it needs to go underthe layer of, like the layer of
fat under your skin.
It's honestly, it's not muchand you don't.
You don't really feel it.
You don't need to like numbyourself or anything.
I actually find it easier thanthose home sti cats, the kids.
I don't like those because youcan't see the needle and then
you press the click and then youget that pain, whereas this you

(15:33):
kind of just like well, you caninject the side of your leg or
like your stomach or your arm,and you just squeeze the skin
and then put it in.
You can't feel it genuinely.
Oh, next time I'm doing it, I'mgonna facetime you and show you
god, I actually always feel abit queasy talking about needles
well, you're the one that askedyou, dumbass I know, but I'm
just I yeah, I personally can dothat.
I'd rather just take the pillbut you've had needles in your
face before I have.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yes, when I had botox once about two years ago, yeah,
but talking about um botox andprocedures like that, I actually
came across this thing calledthe vampire facelift have you
heard of this?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
no, I have no.
That sounds right up yourstreet.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
You love halloween, but that's terrifying I love
halloween and I'd like to have ayoung face, but uh, yeah, I
don't know if I could do this.
So it's this new facelift thathas come about, where they um,
basically the whole idea is it'snon-surgical facelift and what
they do is they take blood fromyour arm and then they mix it
with plasma and then inject itin your face and it's meant to

(16:32):
give you the the kind of um endlook of a facelift, but without
having all the cuts and needlesand stitches and things, but
still needles, still needles,yeah, okay, but a mix of your
blood.
Apparently, it's like the bloodfrom your arm like freshens the
blood in your face or somethinglike that.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Hence why it's the vampire facelift because it's
about putting blood into you,yeah, wow, I don't know how I
feel about them.
Like taking blood out of partof my body, yeah.
Mixing it with anything, yeah,and then putting it back in,

(17:09):
yeah, I think once blood is outyour body, I don't know if it
should go back in, do you know?
what I mean, even if you have,like, a blood transfusion, they
like they clean the blood andthen put it back into you.
They don't like put it in a cup, stir in.
You know some magic.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Magic plasma.
Yeah, just a plasma, wow.
But yeah, that's the vampirefacelift.
That's the new trend, alongwith a Zen pic that people are
doing at the moment.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I mean, maybe it's a good time to throw out to our
listeners and ask if any of youhave ever had any of these
things.
If you're on a zen pic, if youobviously, if you have questions
, ask away.
If you've had this vampirefacelift, yeah, I would love to
know the effects and how thatwas, but literally anything at
all like we're really open totalk about these things.
Let's be honest, all of us,including you at home, we are
not getting any younger.
We are not, no, and we've gotto keep up with you know, maybe

(17:56):
we don't.
Actually, I was going to say wehave to keep up with society
and how people look, but maybewe should just age gracefully.
I mean, you already have aged.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I was waiting for that.
I knew it was coming.
See, this is what a Zempic doesfor you it makes you a nasty
little bitch.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
That wasn't the Zempic honey.
Wow, vampire face.
But yeah, please write in.
Wow, vampire faces, but yeah,please write in.
If you've heard any of theseprocedures done, recommend them.
Don't recommend them, write into us.
We'd love to hear from you.
So, podcasters, we've done asection a little bit like this
before, but this is a brand newone that we like to call Queer

(18:34):
Diary and yes, brad did come upwith that name.
Let's all give him a round ofapplause for being witty and
clever for the first time in hislife.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Thank you so much, everyone.
I actually felt really proud ofthat Queer Diary, queer Diary.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Just leaving a pause to really let everyone soak that
in.
So yeah, it's called QueerDiary.
We're going to put it on theInstagram, but every week we're
going to bring up a littlequestion or some advice or
something from somebody at home,something that's happened in
their life, and we will talkabout it, basically.
So we put it out on Instagram.
We've had quite a few repliescome in and, brad, if you want

(19:14):
to read out this week's QueerDiary, I want it in your best
diary voice, like this person'sdiary has come to life, uh-huh,
and you were voicing it.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
I mean not that you'd ever be given the job of
voicing anything, but here we gonow I always think like, um, a
queer diary voice is like veryuh, questioning, so that's the
voice I'm going to go with.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Do you know what?
I just want you to do?
Whatever comes to you, okay, goqueer diary.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Why are gays disdainful on Grindr?
I'm going to try that again.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
No, we're keeping that in.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Okay, we're going to go for a take two.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
I thought it would be an audition panel.
Okay, we're going to go for asecond time.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's because there's some words in here that are not
in my vocabulary that I'm havingto.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Because you weren't educated.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
I'm having to kind of read on the spot, so, and
having to kind of read on thespot, so let's go.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Take two Are you not good at getting your mouth
around things?

Speaker 1 (20:01):
No complaints so far, especially not from your dad.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Many complaints that one time that we went on a date,
but you know.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Let's go Queer diary.
Why are gays disdainful onGrindr?
Why the dichotomy in betweenpublic and in-act interactions?

Speaker 2 (20:21):
You ran out of breath there.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh my goodness, dichotomy.
So I actually had to Googlewhat that word was.
I hadn't heard of that wordbefore, but it means the
contrast.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Okay.
So basically in layman's termsfor everyone at home, this
person is asking why are gays soweird on Grindr?
They, why are gays so weird onGrindr?
They're either really lovelyand want to marry you or they
literally want you to wait assup face down door open.
Fucking go, don't talk to meever again.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, is that what you're saying Basically?
Yeah, why the contrast?
If we're saying in person, it'slike you don't talk to these
people like this in person.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Oh, this is a really good point now I mean, I have
gone up to people in clubs andsaid similar things, have you?
I mean not like that, no, andnot in a nasty sense.
But yeah, I have gone out topeople that have like been
giving me the eyes and been liketrying to go away from me in
the bathroom I'll come find youin two minutes, but that's not
nasty that's not nasty.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
No, it's kind of kinky.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Um, yeah, this is a good point.
Actually, I was talking to youabout this this morning and in
our little gays group.
I don't think it's just Grindr,I think Tinder, hinge, all
these gay open dating platforms.
I think some people Listen.
I think dating at the moment isreally difficult.
I think, since lockdown, datinghas really, really changed.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
In what sense?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I think people got so used to talking through social
media and being able to editwhat they were saying before it
just like naturally either cameout their mouth or like doing
videos they could watch it.
Do it again, whack a filter on,change their teeth, like they
could just they could controlhow they were seen.
I think since lockdown nowpeople have almost forgotten how
to have natural, politeinteractions with other humans.

(22:00):
That's just me.
I don't know how you feel aboutit.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
To be honest, I don't know, because I've not really
been on the dating scene for alittle while.
So, uh, I think from whatyou're saying and some of our
other gay friends, it feels likeit's a whole different
minefield yeah, it just feelslike I don't know, it's a really
hard one to talk about becauseobviously everyone is very
different.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
But I personally find that on these apps maybe just
not grinder for one second, I'llcome back to that things like
tinder and hinge, where they'renot apps known for just hookups,
they've definitely become moreof a hookup app, right, and
people will just like eitherjust be really nasty off the
get-go, like, oh hey, what'd youdo for work?
You might tell them and they'llbe like, oh, actually, I have

(22:39):
no interest in hearing aboutthat, sorry, and we'll unmatch
you.
Yeah, that hasn't happened tome, but it has happened to
someone I know wow yeah, quiteoften with my actor friends.
As soon as they say they're anactor, people are like I'm sorry
, I don't date actors andunswipe.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
But you just don't say it in that like blunt terms.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, I mean I remember talking to my brother,
who's straight, a long time agoabout dating apps and he just
said I disagree with them like,flatly, I would never.
He's married with kids now, youknow, but he said I would never
use them.
I just don't understand how youcan start off a relationship
where you've just seen a pictureof someone and you've matched
off that picture.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
That is a really fair comment.
Yeah, you're basically lookingon face value, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
And, of course, we all know pictures can be edited,
filtered.
You're obviously going to puton the best picture of you that
might not fully represent howyou look in general, right?
Yeah, that's why back in theday, when I was on Hinge a
couple of years ago, I reallyliked Hinge because it wasn't
just about pictures.
When I was on Hinge a couple ofyears ago, I really liked Hinge
because it wasn't just aboutpictures.
There was all funny things youcould write about your

(23:41):
personality and what you're into.
I felt like the profile wasmore well-rounded, gave you a
little sense of everything, andyou could do things like voice
notes.
You could hear the person speak.
You could put up little videosof you.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Would you want people to hear you speak?
Yeah, Hello my love.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
But yeah, hello, my love.
But then at least you knew whatthat person sounded like.
You could form like a betterimage of them in your mind.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Whereas on something like Tinder and it was just a
few pictures and like a littlebit of text, that for me wasn't
really giving me much about thatperson.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Very true, and I think, yeah, that is a good
point, but I think the gay worldis such a minefield though,
right, but going back to Grindr,which is what this person wrote
in about, yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
If I was on Grindr.
I kind of expect not that thisis right or wrong kind of expect
the language to maybe be a bitmore crude and Grindr is very
much a hookup app.
Yeah, hookup app yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yes, very true, although I do.
I'll be honest what are you onhere for?
That's always like the firstquestion that comes up with most
people, like what are youlooking for?
Yeah, and I do get some peoplesaying like, oh, actually
probably like dates, friends,for benefits, but no agenda.
And it's like when I findpeople that I'm like oh, that's
actually quite refreshing to beon this app, which is kind of
like it's forward, a bit moreopen.

(24:50):
You've obviously got literallyalbums and pictures of your
nudes ready to go like.
It's not like like Tinder whereyou have to move to WhatsApp.
If it gets that stage, youcould literally open up the app
and bam bam, there it is.
For me.
I quite like that because Idon't want to date anybody who's
prudish.
Although people say I am, I'mdefinitely not.
I don't want to have to workreally hard at breaking ice.

(25:12):
So actually sometimes if I'm onGrindr and someone says they're
looking for a relationship, Iactually quite like that because
they already know they're onGrindr, so they clearly do
random hookups.
They're clearly kind of open,probably quite content with
themselves, but they're open toother things.
But then there are a lot ofpeople that are just people
wanting to fulfill kinks.
People wanting to yeah, it's aweird one.

(25:33):
I don't actually like the app.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Funny enough, this morning I logged out of it and I
haven't logged back in, and forme not being on the app for
like six hours, that's kind ofgood for me, right?
Yeah, because I do have acouple of gay friends who have
had relationships with peoplethey've met on grinder.
So they met us like a sort ofin a hookup situation and they
were like, oh, we get reallywell, we're gonna maybe go for a
date, etc.
Um, so I'm not saying thatgrinder, you can from Grindr,
because I know people thatthat's happened to, but I think,
generally speaking, if you'reon Grindr, it's because you're

(26:03):
looking for a hookup.
So I do think the languagesometimes is a bit more this is
what I want, this is you knowright now, this is what I'm into
, et cetera, et cetera, whereasI feel like maybe Tinder and
Hinge it's a bit more kind ofdatey vibes.
But you had a very oddinteraction on Tinder today,
which I think is in reference towhat this person was talking

(26:25):
about.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, with Discord?
Yeah, because, yes, I matchedwith somebody.
I then because I completed thematch.
I'm always like if I completethe match I will message first.
So I just messaged like, hey,how are you doing?
Did you have a good weekend?
I know that's a very boringreply, but opening question, but
whatever, just did their firstmessage back.
Not great, getting over thefact my granddad died.

(26:46):
Next message straight away whatabout you?
Next question are you top orbottom?

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Those two just don't join up in conversation.
How do you reply to that?
But I think this is what thisperson's saying, right, like the
join up in conversation.
How do you reply to that?
But I think this is what thisperson's saying, right, like the
, the kind of contrast if youmet that person in real life at
a bar, uh or wherever, yeah anduh.
You know, chat is like oh youknow, I'm having a bit of a shit
time.
My granddad just died at theweekend.
You then don't go into, by theway you top or bottom well, this
is what I mean about throughlockdown.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I think people are much more confident typing than
talking in real life yeah, yeah,yeah I I would actually find it
so refreshing if I went into aclub and I went up to like a
group of like younger, just gowith me with this.
Okay, younger like good looking, doesn't matter, they're like
twinkie looking guys and justwas like hey guys, how's your
week going?
Straight away they'd be likewhy is this guy?

(27:32):
Well, probably be like why isthis guy randomly talking to us?
Yeah, it wouldn't be like ohcute, someone trying to make
friends.
I'm not necessarily coming overbecause I want to sleep with
you.
We're in a club to begin with,or in a bar.
Why can't we just like makefriends?
And actually on nights outwhere I have managed to get over
that sort of boundary of why isthis stranger talking to me?
Do they want to hook up with me?
Do I need to make it clear thatI'm not trusted anyone that

(27:54):
I've actually managed to get tolike a friendship level I've
kept in touch with?
Yeah.
So yeah, it's.
It's a, it's a strange one andI I know I've said this before
and I'll say it again I do feellike the younger gay scene.
A they don't realize how goodthey've got it these days.
And b they're just not verywhat's the word.
They're not very open to uhsocializing with other gay

(28:17):
people that they haven't comeout with I don't think.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
But is that because younger generation generally are
?

Speaker 2 (28:24):
if I'm looking for dating, I'll be on dating apps
yeah, maybe I don't know orthey're literally just out there
for a shag and if you come talkto them and you are not their
type, they will not give you thetime of day.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Possibly that yeah, yeah, but no, I totally agree.
The language used on apps appsin real life is so different.
Yeah, the thing about Grindr.
I would say if you're on Grindr, you kind of expect that.
Not whether that's right orwrong, I just think that is what
the app is about.
Generally speaking, I think ifyou're on Tinder and using that
sort of language, you shouldjust make it obvious in your

(28:53):
profile that you're just therefor hookups.
Don't try and like lead peopleon by saying I'm on a dating app
but I'm not really botheredabout the dating yeah like that
guy who wrote to you andbasically straight in, there was
top or bottom.
So yeah, I think it's just aboutbeing honest about what you're
after, right very true.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
The one good thing about other apps not grinder is
grinder.
I hate the fact that you cansee who's online.
I really don't like that,because you are.
If you are talking to someone,they're like oh, let's go for a
date.
And then they're like anyway,I'm off to bed.
I'll speak to you tomorrow.
I'm like cute, no worries.
Then you go on the app an hourlater and they're still online.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Right yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, it's like wait, it's like it's not saying that
I'm a human, like a massivelyjealous person, but I do get it

(29:47):
when I when people aren't honestand stuff, so I don't know.
I know I've contradicted myselfso much here.
I want people to be honest, butI don't want them to be honest
what do you want, benji?

Speaker 1 (29:57):
listen.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
This is why I'm sat here very, very single.
Who the hell knows what I want?
But um, oh, be right back well,listen here.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Podcasters.
Tell us that we are wrong.
Tell us that there is more tolife on grinder than what we
know in london tell us there'shope out there.
Have any of you made any greatfriendships from Grindr?
Has any of you got any amazingrelationships, any boyfriends,
et cetera, from Grindr?
Let us know, and let us knowthat there is hope out there in
the dating app world.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, for little old me over here with my pink red
ball and no one to go home tobut my air con.
And no one to go home to but myair con, which to be honest,
you love the air con, I reallylove my air con.
But listen, we're going to cometo the end of this episode.
However, brad and I would justlike to say that very recently,
we celebrated a very excitingday.
It was, in fact, on the 1st ofJuly, our four-year birthday.

(30:53):
Happy, happy, happy birthday,baby.
Happy birthday to you, you.
Four year anniversary of meputting up with bradley on my
big gay podcast.
My big gay podcast has justturned four years old this month
and we just want to say a realquick thank you for everyone
that supports us from thebeginning, those of you that
have found us recently and havemessaged in to say you've gone

(31:16):
right back to season one andlistened to us way back when, in
lockdown, little benji in hisbedroom four stone heavier
recording before you know, weeven put our faces to the
podcast, talking about thingsthat we well I at the time would
probably never really haveshared, especially on a public
platform.
So, yeah, thank you for givingme that freedom, uh, to be

(31:38):
myself more and to be moreunapologetically me.
So that went really deep.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
I didn't actually mean it to, no, but I love that
but I always say to you, doingthe podcast with you and for
everyone and all our listeners,um, for me it's been like
therapy, just like airing stuffoff my chest, like, you know,
whinging about the world orcelebrating the world.
You know this wonderful queercommunity that we're a part of
and I just think it's amazing.
And going back to season one,it's like what RuPaul says the

(32:04):
season one filter, oh mygoodness.
We had no idea what we weredoing.
Just me and you in our littlebedrooms on Zoom, in lockdown,
trying to figure out how to do apodcast.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
And here we are, and and what's really funny, leading
on from dating apps, is weactually did meet on a date.
We did which we forgot tomention, and then look at us.
We stayed in touch, we starteda podcast and now we know each
other far too well.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Who would have thought that?
And that was on Tinder, right?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
That was on Tinder and I literally ghosted you for
quite a few months.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
And now look, look at us here in our little podcast
studio having a wonderful time.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
So, yeah, thank you to everyone, but, like I said,
that is all we have time for onthis week's episode of my big
game podcast.
If you don't follow ourInstagram or our brand new
TikTok, please do go.
We are going to start puttingout content.
Wish us luck with what comesout.
I actually don't know.
I'm still trying to figure outhow to use TikTok and Brad is
still figuring out how to evendownload TikTok.
So bear with us.

(32:55):
But yeah, go and give us afollow, give us a a like, share
some stuff to us.
We want to hear from you.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
And there are so many ways that you can get in touch
with us.
You can drop us a little DM,drop us an email, you can give
us a voice note, and theexciting thing is now that we're
in our brand new studio.
Whoa we can do call-ins.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
So if you've got a little freeway with benji and
brad, yes, you can, but like Isaid podcasters.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
That is all we have time for on this week's episode,
until next time see you nextwednesday.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
So, mate, I actually think you should get the vampire
facelift are you saying that myface needs a facelift?
No, no, no.
No, I'm not being nasty, I justwith a name like vampire
facelift.
I would just hope that it wouldimprove your sucking skills.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
They do not need improving.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
No, but they are a bit toothy.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Nash.
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