February 14, 2025 • 46 mins
Episode 311: Transforming Audio with Adobe Podcast with Harmony Jiroudek
What if creating professional-grade audio was just a few clicks away? In this episode, I sit down with Harmony Jiroudek, Customer Education and Success Lead at Adobe Podcast, to explore how this AI-powered platform is transforming the world of audio creation!
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✅ How Adobe Podcast evolved from an enhanced speech tool to a full-suite podcasting powerhouse 🛠
✅ AI-driven features like remote recording, text-based editing, and speech enhancement 🎙
✅ Why educators and content creators should embrace podcasting for storytelling, collaboration, and creativity 🏫
✅ Breaking barriers: Practical steps for integrating podcasting into classrooms and libraries 📚
✅ The power of authenticity and digital storytelling—and how these tools help amplify your voice 🎤✨
🌟 Whether you're an educator, a podcaster, or a creative storyteller, this episode will inspire you to take your audio content to the next level!
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Fonz (00:30):
Hello everybody and welcome to another great episode
of my EdTech Life.
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finding value in it, because wehave definitely seen those
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download numbers go up and, asyou know, we do what we do for
you to bring you some amazingconversations, and today is
definitely no different.
Today we are going into theworld of podcasts and we're
going to be specifically talkingabout Adobe Podcasts and I'm
just really excited to welcome aphenomenal guest that I had the
pleasure of just kind ofdropping in on a live event that
(01:15):
they were doing and I was like,oh my gosh, like everything
kind of lined up, I need to makesure that I have Harmony
Jurudic here on the show andtoday she is our wonderful guest
.
So, harmony, how are you doingtoday?
Harmony Jiroudek (01:32):
I'm doing well , fonz.
Thanks so much for having me.
I can't believe we're alreadyinto February and, yeah, super
excited to be here.
Fonz (01:40):
Oh you're telling me, I mean living in the world of
education, I mean time isdefinitely flying.
I mean, yeah, so I totally,totally I mean, but thank you so
much for being here and I'mglad, like I said, I dropped in
into that live session that youguys were doing and Dave Jackson
was.
It was his turn at that timeand I was like, oh okay, I know
(02:01):
Dave and I'm very familiar withDave, so it was fantastic to be
able to see you and connect withyou through that live event and
now to have you as a guest andcontinue our podcast
conversation.
I'm really excited about that.
So, before we get started, ifyou can give us a little brief
introduction and what yourcontext is within the podcast
space, that would be somethingfantastic for our audience
(02:23):
members to know.
Within the podcast space, thatwould be something fantastic for
our audience members to know.
Harmony Jiroudek (02:25):
Yeah, happy to .
So I currently lead customereducation and success for Adobe
Podcast.
We are a relatively youngerproduct within the larger Adobe
ecosystem so product's beenaround a little over a year now.
Previously I was at a companycalled Descript, a similar
product, so been in thepodcasting product space for,
(02:46):
yeah, four plus years now atthis point.
Fonz (02:49):
Excellent, so we're going to go ahead and dive in.
And what you mentioned is thatthe Adobe for podcasting is a
little younger and I know wewere talking a little bit
pre-chat and I brought up thefact that having the opportunity
to be an Adobe innovator andmaking my chance, or getting a
chance, excuse me to travel toLehigh two years ago that is the
(03:10):
first time that I wasintroduced to Adobe podcast and
just to see from that back thentwo years ago to where it was
just a week ago when I waspresenting at TCA.
It was just a week ago when Iwas presenting at TCA and, like
I mentioned to you, then I cameback and I just kind of started
messing around with it and I waslike whoa, when did this get
(03:30):
added?
And I was like I didn't seeanything, any announcements or
anything like this is fantastic,but tell me about that journey
you know as far as the team isconcerned and your work within
that team.
Harmony Jiroudek (03:42):
Sure, yeah.
So for folks that are brand newto Adobe Podcast, in short,
it's a AI-powered audiorecording and editing tool
really designed to helppodcasters and content creators
create high-quality audiocontent without getting bogged
down by the technology.
So it's super simple to use andit actually started off as kind
(04:07):
of like a what we call a quickaction, the enhanced speech
feature, which I think you'refamiliar with.
Initially it was just that itwas this landing page where you
could go drop in your audio.
It would remove backgroundnoise and echo and it would make
it sound like you recorded itin a professional studio.
So initially it was just thatand from there then we were like
(04:28):
, okay, where, where can we takethis?
And so we saw, you know, therewas a need within Adobe, like
like, we don't have like a toolthat that's out there for
recording podcasts, so let'sbuild remote recording into the
product as well.
So we have this feature calledStudio that allows you to do
remote recording, send a guest alink, or you can do solo
(04:49):
recording as well.
As soon as you're done, ittranscribes everything and you
can do text-based editing.
And there's great like built-inroyalty-free music, and we
actually just added to the musiclibrary.
So lots going on.
Fonz (05:02):
And that is a lot because, like I mentioned to you, we
just got a little glimpse thereand, mind you, this is a room
full of Adobe for Educationinnovators, so we're all you
know in the K-12 classrooms,whether we are in the classroom
or supporting teachers in theclassroom and students and so on
.
So when I got a glimpse of this, I was before going to Lehigh.
(05:24):
I had already been familiar andseen it through another friend
of mine.
His name is Dylan Schmidt.
Great podcast.
Harmony Jiroudek (05:31):
Yeah, digital.
Fonz (05:33):
Yeah, he's awesome, yeah, he was on my show and so he
obviously he's always likeputting out content and he did a
video like that.
And as I started using it, Iwas like this is fantastic.
Just for cleaning up that audioI mean, even if you're using
the voice memo notes on yourphone and do a quick recording
and then to be able to drop itin and clean that up, I mean I
was like don't have to worryabout you know, $400 mics are up
(05:57):
and all of these interfaces andso on, and now you can just do
that here, drop it in and all ofa sudden it's like super clean,
nice audio, and then you can.
What I love is the little sliderwhere you can kind of leave
(06:19):
just a little bit of that littlebackground, if you want, just
for that ambience and all thatgood stuff.
But to see what it has turnedinto now recently and like I
mentioned to you being able topresent this at TCEA last week.
We definitely got a lot ofgreat feedback, and I say we
just because I'm a user, but Imean I just wanted to let you
(06:42):
know that people were very, veryhappy, especially with the
transcript editing portion.
And so, as an educator, many ofthe classroom uses of podcasting
have been, to you know, showcontent, content mastery,
learning and knowledge showcontent, content mastery,
(07:07):
learning and knowledge.
But now having been able to dothis and seeing the transcript
and students being able to cleanup and edit the audio and
removing some of these verbalcrutches that you hear me
sometimes with the uhs, the umsand the plosives, is something
that is fantastic, and so it'sbeen great to see the product
grow.
So I'm just really excited tolearn a little bit more about
where this may be going.
(07:28):
But before we get into that, Iknow you kind of told us a
little bit of the story thereand you know, I guess, removing
some of those barriers.
But I wanted to ask you, justbecause of your background and
where it is that you're comingfrom in the podcast space and
bringing that experience intoAdobe for Podcast.
I didn't even get to ask youand I'm sure that our audience
(07:49):
is wanting to know is how didyou, harmony, get into
podcasting or now being part ofthe podcast world?
Harmony Jiroudek (07:58):
Yeah, yeah, it definitely wasn't expected.
I'll say that right out thegate.
I'm a musician at heart.
That's what I actually did myundergrad and graduate studies
in, and so, thinking about mycareer path, it certainly has
not been linear.
One thing that I did right outof school is I actually started
working for the institution Iwent to.
It's called CaliforniaInstitute of the Arts and I
(08:21):
loved just like working withstudents, helping them.
Like you know, we would doinformational sessions, we'd
talk about all of the you knowsix different departments and be
like OK, so you're interestedin music technology, let's dig
into that a little bit more.
What type of skills are youtrying to hone?
And so became a counselor andrecruiter, working at a startup
(08:45):
where it was all about makingarts education more accessible
to students around the world.
Because I I feel veryprivileged that I got to go to a
school like this, but I had totake out student loans and I was
still paying them back, um, soyou know would the goal of that
startup was really to just makethat type of education more
accessible, to get collegecredit, um, and through that.
That's kind of when mye-learning journey started.
So we built a learningmanagement system from the
(09:07):
ground up that was reallybespoke to the arts and creative
technology.
So I was.
I wore many hats, I was aproducer, won win-win support
team for a while, and so we tookon-campus courses and then
turned them to.
It was like during the moocboom where, like Coursera, edx,
so we did pre-production,brought instructors to our green
(09:31):
screen, filmed them fastforward.
Then I segued into like kind oflike HR compliance training,
got a little bit more familiarwith Cornerstone, lms and
building that, those types ofonline courses.
And then I say then, then atthat point I segued it to
Descript and I fell in love withthe product.
(09:52):
It's like this this is great,there's so many things that you
can do with it.
And that's kind of when mypodcasting journey began.
Fonz (09:59):
That is fantastic.
Now let me ask you too, beinglike you mentioned your passion
for music.
I myself, too, am verypassionate about music and play
several instruments, but isthere a particular instrument
that you grew up playing thatyou really favor, or are you
just like myself, kind of like amulti-passionate creative and
you just learn a little bit ofevery instrument?
Harmony Jiroudek (10:21):
Yeah, so I'm primarily a vocalist, but I grew
up taking piano lessons beforevocal lessons, so it was great
having that foundationalknowledge kind of branched into
like doing some singer,songwriter stuff, but then
trained classically as avocalist.
Fonz (10:39):
Nice, excellent.
Well, I mean all of that, Ithink honestly really ties into
your current work and, like youknow you mentioned you know you
went from that to a differentcompany, descript and then you
know, learning about that andthen just now also coming out to
Adobe and just to be able tohelp and grow that and have that
vision too as well.
(11:00):
I think that that's somethingthat is fantastic.
So your experience, you know,now you worked for this company,
descript, and then now you workfor Adobe.
How long were you at Descriptfor?
Harmony Jiroudek (11:13):
About like three and a half years or so,
and Descript is also a startup.
You know I started when therewere a little less than 50
people there and now it's like Ithink it's tripled at this
point and I think you know forme I was primarily working with
enterprise customers, so youknow great production teams that
(11:34):
were producing high qualitypodcasts and it was really about
getting into the nitty grittyof their workflows,
understanding like where timeDescript fit into their workflow
.
So if they were also usingtools like Audition and Premiere
and Pro Tools, it was like, ok,how can we onboard and make you
successful with Descript atthat time.
Fonz (11:54):
Excellent.
Well, that's fantastic because,like I said, I'm thankful for
you and your experience andobviously your passion that you
have just because you knowseeing you, you know with these
events and having Dave on andjust having wonderful speakers.
And then I know you and I havebeen going back and forth, you
know, as far as messaging.
But I'm just really excitedwhere Adobe podcast is going now
(12:15):
because, like I mentioned, Ican't stop talking enough about
it because of my experience withit and also because I've had
the opportunity, working at adistrict as a digital learning
coordinator, I get theopportunity to work with
educators and they go intoteacher classrooms and maybe
they have a project and theyjust want to do something a
little bit different.
Or, you know, in this case,I'll go into libraries and I'll
(12:38):
give them an idea of how theycan go ahead and leverage the
power of podcast for, you know,doing their book reviews and
little things, or little minipods, micro pods for you know,
just giving reviews on books,main characters, little things
like that, just so you know itbuilds up just that community.
And also for the students to beable to just have that
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ownership and feel like they'repart of something bigger.
And what I see here is, as youbring your experience in with
the rest of the team, I thinkthat this is going to be
something that's going to befantastic and I look forward to
all the great things that arecoming.
So, with your background ineducation, and then, of course,
going into the market, as far asDescript working with
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enterprise customers, what doyou find is, you know, maybe a
couple of the biggest barriersof entry that maybe some people
that may be interested because,as our audience here, we have a
lot of educators that maybe areinterested in starting a podcast
, but they don't know where tostart and you know how to get
started.
So, with your experience, whatwould be some actionable where
to start?
And you know how to get started?
So, with your experience, whatwould be some actionable steps
(13:41):
for them to say, hey, let's,this is a way that we can remove
that barrier and that you canjust click, record and start
producing something.
Harmony Jiroudek (13:49):
Yeah, I think like, first off, there's a lot
of fear or apprehension to evenjust like push the record button
right, like so, um.
So I think you know, on onehand, there's a lot of like kind
of pre-production stuff you canget out of the way, like while
you're getting over that fear ofhitting the you know red record
button.
So it's like you know, planning, doing research on the, on the
(14:12):
people that you're interviewing,like figuring out who your
audience is and coming up withsome personas and figuring out,
like you know, talking to people, like is this even something
that is going to be worthwhile?
Like getting you know divinginto and um, and then I think,
like also the tech it can justlike it can bog people down.
I think we're at this point nowyou know it's 2025 the market's
(14:34):
pretty saturated with differenttools out there, like if you
search for transcription tools,like there's just so many things
out there, and so I think oneis just like give yourself time
to try out different tools.
I don't think there's like a onesize fits all right, like it's,
you know, use the tool that'sgoing to be most conducive to
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the way that works well based onyour workflow and also just
allows you to be able to getinto interesting conversations
and not get bogged down by thetechnology and be able to focus
on the story.
So I would say test outdifferent software, see what
works best for you after doingthat bit of research.
(15:16):
And I would also say, like,record yourself and probably
throw away the first things thatyou record.
You know you may come back, youknow and listen to something
and see or hear it with adifferent lens and be like, oh
yeah, like I'm really glad I,you know, did a couple practice
rounds.
Now I'm going to come back atit a little bit more informed,
(15:40):
based on what I heard the firsttime around and maybe it was
just like the filler words.
It was like, oh man, I said,and like so many times.
So I'm going to, I got thosefew practice episodes under my
belt.
I'm going to come back evenmore prepared.
Fonz (15:53):
Excellent and that is fantastic advice.
And you know, if I could goback and start things all over
again, I would probably havestarted there.
But you know, I'll be honestwith you, like when I was in the
classroom this was maybe about10 years ago going to a
(16:19):
conference, and so I would juststart recording in the classroom
with my students and so wewould do a lesson, and what I
would do is I would walk aroundjust with my phone and I'd
record all my students and whatI would do is we would have an
activity where we were goingover.
Let's say it was either, youknow just, I don't know the
Revolutionary War, or theRoaring 20s was, you know, an
era that was a lot of fun andthe students always had a great
(16:40):
time.
So it was great that what Iwould do is I would assign
certain sections of thosereadings to students.
So if I had 25 kids, then Iwould assign certain sections to
them, and then everybody was asubject matter expert.
So I would just say, all right,at this time, dr Garcia, our
guest here, who's joining usfrom the University of so-and-so
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, just make it up.
And then, of course, they'dspeak their part, and then I
would put all that together andshare it with parents through
our digital newsletter.
It was something that wasfantastic that I never thought
at that time that I was or wewere doing a podcast.
It was just to me it wassomething like, oh, we're just
having some fun and enjoying.
(17:21):
But now I mean, this is where alot of classrooms currently
want to go or are in or theyhope to get into.
So I really appreciate theadvice that you gave for
individuals, but also forstudents, for teachers and
students also to have, just tomake sure that we don't get
bogged down with a lot of thetech.
(17:42):
And so one of the things that Ilove, like I mentioned, is the
ease of use of Adobe podcast,because my philosophy I always
tell people and those that knowme I always say, hey, I just got
to keep it KISS, keep it simpleand streamlined.
Ok, other people put another Sin there, a different type of S,
but I just say, if you keep itsimple and streamlined, you're
(18:03):
going to be good to go, and Ican't think of a better platform
than Adobe Podcast.
So, going back to the platformand what it's able to do, I just
find it fascinating, like Isaid, as the ease of use of
being able to go in there andjust click that record button
(18:24):
and really go in and talk, andthat transcript is huge.
It's a huge help because thereare many, like you mentioned,
platforms that are out therethat still use, you know, the
audio wave files, and thenhaving to go in there and cut
and listen and cut and so on.
But here I mean you've got anice transcript that's similar
(18:45):
to a Word doc or a Google docand highlight, delete and boom,
you just continue going on.
I mean that is something thatis fantastic.
What has been some of thefeedback that you get from this?
Because I know, like youmentioned, it's all about that
time and efficiency.
So what are some of thefeedback that you get from this?
Because I know, like youmentioned, it's all about that
time and efficiency.
So what are some of the thingsthat you hear on your side?
Harmony Jiroudek (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, no , I think like there's two main
things I hear.
One is just because you knowagain, we're not the only
text-based editor in the gamenow.
So I think like the main thingis that the simplicity of it.
You know, like you literallyopen up a project, there's a
couple buttons on the left,there's a record button, there's
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an invite guest button andthat's it.
So once you get your transcriptback, you're really just
focused on that transcriptediting experience.
So just the simplicity and easeof use, I think really comes
into play.
The other thing too, likeespecially, I think, like
thinking about, you know, thestudent experience.
There's so many sort of usecases for using it in the
(19:50):
classroom, whether it's like toyour point, using it on a like a
culmination project or a bookreview, or even language
learning, like you know, be ableto see, like even language
learning, like you know, be ableto see like students light up,
like when they hear their voice,you know like recorded back and
then they, then they you knowthere's room for you know that
self assessment and makingimprovements from there.
(20:10):
So like I just I love seeinglike students and faculty like
light up when they realize like,oh, I can record and then get
the transcript back.
And just recently, as you and Iwere discussing earlier, you
can now transcribe in sixdifferent languages, which I
think is huge, especially foreducation.
So I think like there's thiselement of like wider
(20:35):
accessibility and option forinclusive learning.
So, yeah, that paired with theease of use, and then we'll get
to this but also access to AdobeExpress.
So there's, when you sign upfor Adobe Podcast or Adobe
Express, you automatically getaccess to the other.
So it's basically you've gotyour podcasting tool and your
(20:58):
design and you know, video toollike wrapped up into like one
subscription and to me, for likeas a, you know, as- an educator
.
It's like this is all you need.
So, um, I think that would bethe thing that like rounds out,
like what's what makes it uniquein the market?
Fonz (21:14):
yes, yes, yes to all of that because, like I said, it
was funny, you know, also justcoming back from TCEA and I was
like, well, let me just sit hereand I think this was February
7th actually, because I have myproject dated right here so I
came in here I was like, well,let me try it out, because of
the presentation, I'll have anopportunity to go to Puerto Rico
and share on this.
(21:34):
And there it is, it's all inSpanish.
And then not only that, butjust I love, like you mentioned,
the way that the UX for it isfairly simple.
You can either upload youraudio and you can fix that, you
can add the music, you can add,you know, your intros, outros,
mid sections.
But one of the things that I dolove about this is the ability
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to have more than one studentand in this case, the only
reason that I'm saying studentsis because this is who I work
with the most but to be able tohave them podcast together and
just, you know, even though theymay not be like, let's say, in
the same class, this could be aproject that is worked on, you
know, after school or things ofthat sort, where they have
access to that I think that thisis something that is fantastic,
(22:22):
where they get to work on thatand, like you mentioned, submit
a.
You know a culmination project.
You know something describingtheir unit, or a novel that
they're writing or, excuse me, anovel that they're reading?
and studying and just to be ableto partner together and just
show their knowledge.
But they're working on properlanguage acquisition.
(22:42):
And again, the only reason I'mbringing teacher talk here is
because I want my teachers tounderstand that you know, in the
speaking portion, their properlanguage.
They get to also work onpronunciation, they get to edit,
they get you know and build upthose personal communication,
collaboration skills also in one, and the critical thinking.
(23:03):
But then you added thatwonderful bonus that I tell my
teachers it's like after that, Imean, you've got the creative
component through Adobe Express2 as well.
So that's something that isfantastic all wrapped into one
platform.
I was like this is fantasticand wrapped into one platform.
I was like this is fantasticand I'm absolutely loving it.
That's for sure.
So so, harmony, let me get alittle bit more just from you as
(23:28):
far as a couple of things thatI do know.
That I did notice.
That I absolutely love too isas far as downloads.
I know when I was at TCA youknow teachers were like, well,
how does this file download?
Because some of them may wantto just bring in a section of
video to fix the audio.
So I love the download portionmenu because it's very simple.
(23:49):
You can either download as anaudio MP3, you can download the
transcript as a TXT file.
You can also do audiograms,which I thought was something
fantastic that I stumbled upontoo as well.
So tell us a little bit aboutsome of those features as far as
the download side of it.
Harmony Jiroudek (24:07):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that's kind of like the, you know, the last piece in
the workflow of like, okay, I'verecorded, I've edited, I've
gotten it perfect, I've maybeenhanced and added my video.
So now how do I get it out andshare it with, either with my
classroom or share it with theworld?
And the goal at that point isreally just like, let's present
(24:28):
you with a bunch of differentoptions Because, like for me, I
can't really, like I need, ifI'm watching a video or just
listening to a podcast, like Ineed the transcript as well, um
for it to be more, you know,more sticky, um.
And so you can, yeah, downloadthe final edited audio in a wave
or mp3 form.
Then, below that, you've gotyour transcript that you can
(24:51):
download in a couple differentformats.
We do like txt, docx and pdf,um, all kind of good for
different, various use cases.
With the premium plan, you candownload your original
recordings.
So if, for example, if we wererecording in there, it would
record us on separate tracks soI could pull those down.
(25:12):
And then, last but not least,audiograms.
You know, I think particularlyin podcasting, for folks that
are doing audio only content,this gives you a really kind of
easy way of converting youraudio into engaging video really
quickly.
So what you're seeing in theplatform right now is kind of
like V1.
It was kind of like you know.
(25:32):
Here's what the initialiteration of this looks like.
But, as you know, you know youwant to be able to like change
the background color.
You want to add your logo andyour branding.
You might want to add a pictureof the person or a video of
someone that you're interviewing, so that's like basically like
what's to come next.
But yeah, we needed to get thatMVP out.
Fonz (25:52):
Yes, no, but that's so exciting and, if you don't mind,
what I'm going to do here isI'm going to go ahead and just
do a quick share screen and thenwhat I'm going to do is I'm
just going to demo the audiogramthat I created, and, of course,
this is going to be in Spanish.
Like I mentioned, when I cameback from TCA I was like all
right, I'm so excited I get topresent this in Puerto Rico and
I have to do my presentation inSpanish.
(26:13):
But oh no, I noticed that itsaid, hey, it does not
transcribe in other languagesother than English.
Still, but now this is what Ilove.
And so check out this greataudiogram that I was creating.
And thank you, harmony and therest of the team, because, like
you said, I know that this isgoing to change later on, you
know, but first you got to takethose baby steps.
(26:33):
But this is huge, so let meshare with you all what you can
do.
Hola, mis amigos, estoy muycontento de estar aquí con
ustedes para presentar sobrepodcasting en la aula.
So, again, that's just a quicklittle demo again of what you
are able to do through AdobePodcast.
(26:53):
And this is really excitingbecause, again, you know, living
in this time where you knowit's content creation, content
creation and even as educators,I know many times we feel and I
know I feel many times that ourstudents have become consumers
in the classroom of content.
But now this is a greatopportunity to allow them to be
(27:16):
those content creators wherethey're creating something that
essentially didn't exist.
They're bringing it to life byclicking that wonderful little
record button and that'ssomething that is fantastic
where they can also see theirtranscript and I'll bring this
in here also as well Like wewere talking about the
transcript portion right here,like we were talking about the
transcript portion right here,and so this is just a quick
(27:37):
little recording that I did, butI just wanted to share with you
.
And what Harmony and myselfhave been talking about is just
the ease of use, where now I cango ahead and just take this
whole section here, click deleteand I have just cleaned up my
transcript.
If I want to bring it back,I'll just do Control-Z and then
do some other edits, but this issomething that is great.
That has definitely lowered thebarrier to entry for our
(28:02):
educators, for our students andespecially for school districts.
That are one-to-one Chromebooks, even on a Chromebook.
One thing that I have done andshared is you can always have
two students pair up with oneChromebook and they can still
record the podcast together andthey can still do some podcast
together and they can still dosome of those edits.
Or you can just the teacher cango ahead and buy a nice USB mic
(28:24):
or, through the district, andplug in a nice USB mic.
That's very inexpensive andthen the students can go ahead
and share the mic as they'respeaking their parts, because
now that barrier of entry is nolonger there, you don't have to
be bogged down with.
Well, no, I need a, I need aRodecaster Pro.
Nothing wrong with having that,but the expense that it has,
(28:45):
and then also to just be able torecord four students at a time,
because you're not going tohave, you know, a Rodecaster Pro
for every set of students,which would be great if you did.
But this is a great way whereyou don't have to spend a lot of
money and you're still going toget some great quality outputs
too as well, and this is reallyexciting.
So, harmony, you know we talkeda little bit about this.
(29:06):
So what's on the roadmap?
I mean the things that youmight be able to disclose.
I mean, I would assume that,like you talked about, there
would be those options on theaudiograms to be able to, like
you mentioned, change the color,put in some graphics and tie it
in.
More to that, either AdobeExpress, or is it something that
will be here within or built inwithin Adobe podcast.
Harmony Jiroudek (29:28):
So, as I mentioned, we just added a
multi-language transcription.
Previously you could only do itin English, could only do it in
English.
We also just localized theplatform in 10 different
languages now.
So what will be coming?
It will be more languagesupport.
You know, hopefully we want toget another, you know, at least
five to 10 languages added inthe next few quarters.
(29:50):
So just making it moreaccessible on that level.
Another thing, one thing thatwe heard we were actually
attended a podfest recently inOrlando.
Everyone was like where's video?
How can I record video?
So right now, Adobe podcast inthe studio feature is it's an
audio only recording tool.
(30:13):
So I would say it's not amatter of if, it's just a matter
of when we incorporate video in.
So, just like we are here inStreamYard, be able to do that
and then still have that clean,simple transcript interface to
be able to edit and work from.
I would say, yeah, the languagepiece and video are probably
two of the larger coreinvestments that we're going to
(30:36):
be working on in the comingmonths.
Fonz (30:38):
That's fantastic.
Well, I'm really excitedbecause, like I said, for me,
the simplicity of use and, mostimportantly, because, at least
in my mind, as a teacher, like Isaid, as an educator, lifelong
learner but in working witheducators, I feel that this is
probably one of the mostcomplete platforms that is out
there right now that has theease of use with the transcript
learner.
But in working with educators,I feel that this is probably one
of the most complete platformsthat is out there right now that
(31:00):
has the ease of use with thetranscript.
Like I mentioned to you, I sawsome demos with other platforms
that do the transcript and itwas not very user friendly, as
this is where you haveeverything just on one screen
you highlight, backspace, deleteand you're ready to go and you
really don't waste any time.
You've got your built-in sounds, you've got, you know, your
(31:22):
wonderful filters too, like Imentioned, where you can either
strengthen the clean voice andremove some of that background
and clean things up, or just,you know, tweak it just enough,
where you can have that littleambient sound and just bring in
that authentic audio.
It's up to you.
But, like I said, the ease ofuse, being able to invite guests
, podcast together and then, ofcourse, now with the excitement
(31:44):
of you know, later on like yousaid, it's not too far ahead,
but I know pretty soon that youknow being able to incorporate
audio, I mean, excuse me, thevideo portion of that.
That would be something thatwould be fantastic, because now
what I'm seeing is the amazingvalue of all students in an
(32:04):
Adobe district that have accessto Adobe Express to be able to
take that creativity to thatdifferent level and be able to
speak their learning, sharetheir learning in a wide variety
of ways where they'll be ableto speak it, do some design work
behind it and just really havea complete finished product that
(32:27):
looks fantastic and, of course,that's something that really
excites me and it's really goingto engage the students as well,
rather than, you know, thetypical worksheet or digital
worksheet even you know, becausemany times, as educators, we
just take the same worksheet butwe just digitize it and say,
okay, we're using tech, but inreality you're just substituting
and doing the exact same thing,but here, oh my gosh, you've
(32:49):
definitely opened up just somany more ways that the students
can show their learning andtheir mastery of the content.
So this is exciting Harmony.
I appreciate what you and therest of the team are doing and
thank you so much for thewonderful shares as far as what
will be coming down the pipeline, and that is very exciting for
sure.
Harmony Jiroudek (33:09):
Absolutely, you know.
You actually made me think ofone more thing, and that's
hitting on our enhanced speechtool.
So we recently released V2.
And, based on some feedbackthat we were hearing, there was
kind of a need to have like alittle bit more control over how
much background noise you wantto bring in versus how much you
enhance the voice.
So we're going to be makingsome improvements to the slider
(33:32):
experience.
So instead of one single sliderwe're going to add a second one
, just so that you have a littlebit more mixing control.
So that actually thinking of,like you know, sounds in the
classroom, maybe you want tohear some of the background
voices of, like maybe theteacher's lecturing, but you
want to hear a little bit of theexcitement that's going on in
the classroom, so you can have alittle bit more control over
that.
Fonz (33:53):
Perfect, and so I'm going to go ahead and just share my
screen here one more time.
And this is what we're talkingabout, because currently you
have the enhanced speech righthere and you can either turn
that off or turn that on, and Iknow you've got the slider
option here where you can gofull 100 percent or just kind of
tweak it and just really catchthat extra little ambiance and
background.
Just, you know, have it maybejust a nice little subtle touch
(34:21):
there in the background, but,like I said, it's just the ease
of use.
For me is really what the gamechanger is is that, you know,
for teachers to not feel veryoverwhelmed, the UX UI for
teachers, the UX UI for teachers, the UX UI for students, and
like, when I went to theparticular school that I was
(34:42):
working with, I was working withfourth graders and then I was
working with sixth graders andthey were just very excited at
how easy it was to just recordrecord together and how easy it
was for them to edit, and so,like I mentioned, this is
something that even the studentsreally enjoyed and gave me some
great feedback, and, of course,the librarian and the teachers
(35:05):
that I work with also gave greatfeedback with this and you know
about the platform because youknow it just makes that less, I
guess, nerve wracking that as ateacher, you feel like, oh my
gosh, I've got to learn thiswhole other platform and I got
to learn all of this.
It's like no, the kids canbecome those podcast subject
matter experts right away andhelp each other immediately
(35:26):
because of the UX and the UI.
Absolutely, yeah, excellent.
Well, harmony, thank you somuch.
I really appreciate youspending a little bit of time
with me here and I don't know, Iknow, in this episode, guys, I
know you guys are listening andyou're probably like, oh my gosh
, fonz really sounds reallyexcited about this.
And yes, I am.
I am really excited about thisand I'm really excited about all
(35:49):
the great things that Harmonyshared too as well, because,
guys, I definitely you know,maybe this is one of the most
either just I don't know maybeunderutilized tools that we have
.
If you're in Adobe District,make sure that you check out
podcastadobecom because you'llhave access to it, get on it,
share it with your teachers,show them just a little bit of
(36:10):
basics and watch them, and thestudents take off with it,
because this is a wonderfulplatform to help them continue
to grow and engage in thelearning as well One of the
things, too, that Harmonymentioned.
You know, in having thetranscripts and having students
be able to hear their voices Forall of you, we know that it's
TELPIS season, where thestudents have to work on their
(36:31):
speaking skills.
So just to be able to have aplatform where they can easily
click, record, read something,give you some feedback and they
can listen to it, and you canlisten to it.
Now you have a digital artifactthat you can save and you can
show progress and growth fromthe beginning of the year to the
end of the year as far aslanguage is concerned.
(36:52):
And so think about those things, teachers.
This is wonderful.
It doesn't always I know thatI'm kind of putting that in
there, but also it's just thefun that goes with it, too, as
well.
So, thank you, thank you, adobePodcast, thank you, harmony,
for being here and sharing allthe wonderful love and the goods
that Adobe's bringing.
So, guys, be on the lookout forthat, but for right now, make
(37:15):
sure you log on and try it out.
All right, harmony?
So before we wrap up, as youknow, here on the show, we
always love to end our episodeswith these last three questions.
So hopefully you are ready togo.
All right, let's go.
Here we go.
So question number one Allright, we know that every
superhero has a pain point andfor Superman, that kryptonite
(37:41):
weakened him, or it just caused,you know, just some weakness in
him, and it was just that, likeI mentioned, a pain point.
I know I'm sounding veryrepetitive, but I want to ask
you, in the current state ofeducation, what would you say,
is your current edu kryptonite?
Harmony Jiroudek (37:57):
What would you say, is your current edu
kryptonite?
It's a good question.
Well, I have two, if that's OK.
Is that all right?
Fonz (38:03):
Absolutely, the more the merrier OK awesome.
Harmony Jiroudek (38:12):
Well, I think one is just sort of this theme
around access to AI tools forinstructors in general and
providing adequate training andeven professional development
opportunities to teachers sothat they can really like
effectively determine what AItools are going to enhance their
classroom.
Obviously, like there's so manytools out there, and so I think,
without that, like a lot ofeducators you know they're going
(38:33):
to struggle to integrate aiinto their classroom or even
just be able to talk about aifrom an informed point of view,
so that they you know they canbe in, you know getting their
students prepared for the future, to you know what's to come.
And then I think, like thething that piggybacks on that is
like having ai policies andbest practices in place so that
(38:56):
you know, like when parents youneed to make an informed
decision about where to sendtheir kids, like there's, you
know there's rigor around that.
There's like there's been arigorous process in place that
informed, like this is.
You know, these are the toolsthat we allow, that we have
incorporated, and then maybewe're also piloting some stuff,
(39:19):
but there's like process aroundthat.
So that's my take on that.
Fonz (39:24):
I think that's fantastic and I think that a lot of school
districts now I know it's beenwhat it'll be two years plus
since you know Chad, gpt and ofcourse still there are school
districts that don't have apolicy yet and aren't quite sure
because it's just so muchinformation out there.
But I think I absolutely loveand agree with what you said
(39:45):
especially is informing parentsto allow them to make those
informed decisions too as well,and seeing like is this
something that is going to beuseful for my child or not?
Is the district making surethat they're taking matters into
, you know, any matters that maypop up, if they're ready to go
and mitigate anything that mayhappen, and because the last
(40:07):
thing we want is we don't wantour students to get hurt, you
know, by something that achatbot replies, or obviously
also the fear of data and databreaches and things of that sort
.
So I agree with you 100%, allright.
Question number two, harmony,is if you could have a billboard
with anything on it, what wouldit be and why?
Harmony Jiroudek (40:30):
It's a good one, because there's like so
much that you, you know, thatcomes to mind.
But you know, know, I thinksomething to the extent of like,
stay true to yourself and keeplearning.
You know, like I think, but,you know, been in the industry
for a while now and I think,like life is just too short to
not be yourself and not beauthentic.
(40:51):
Like I've spent a lot of timelike being a people pleaser, you
know, know, which I think I amstill to an extent, but you just
have to let others see the real.
You, you know, and I think,like that's one of the things
that I just really love aboutbeing behind a product like
Adobe podcast is like we'retrying to empower people through
(41:13):
the use of innovativetechnology while keeping it as
simple as possible so thatpeople can focus on their craft
and story.
Fonz (41:20):
I love it, I love it and I think like too, like you
mentioned, authenticity is.
This is a great tool forstudents really to also just be
very authentic and, you know,not just see this like also,
like, hey, like I'm justcreating an assignment and
things of that sort, but also tobe able to just bring a little
bit of themselves into thisparticular project and, just you
(41:43):
know, work on their true,authentic voice and hear that
out at such a young age, and Ithink that's something that is
important too as well.
So I really love that that yousaid.
And, just again, authenticitydefinitely goes a long way.
All right, the last thingharmony.
Last question is if you couldtrade places with one person for
a single day, who would it beand why?
Harmony Jiroudek (42:08):
so good like they're.
My artist side of me was likeI'd want to go be like a famous,
like singer, for a day.
So like I thought of likewhitney, chaka Khan, you know,
just like after you know, a dayin the life of like one of those
amazing concerts, right?
But more on a personal, like ona more family kind of side note
(42:32):
, I would say Eliza Spalding,and she is my great, great,
great great grandmother.
She was one of the first womento cross the Oregon Trail with
Narcissa Whitman.
She was a Presbyterianmissionary that immigrated from
(42:54):
the West Coast to the West CoastSorry, east Coast to the West
Coast and she just has anincredible story, like you know,
living in the 1800s andtraveling across the states, and
you know there was my dadactually recently wrote a book
about her life and story andworking with the Nez Perce
(43:16):
community, and it was just justa really beautiful story.
So I'm just like, oh, whatwould a day in the life of Eliza
, what would that have been like?
So that's that's been top ofmind lately.
Fonz (43:28):
Yeah, that's fantastic.
Actually I if you see melooking over yours because I did
a quick Google search and justyou know being able to see what
popped up I was like, oh mygoodness, this is amazing.
And so this is great, this isfantastic.
So now I'm going to definitelylook up a little bit more
information.
But, harmony, just thank you somuch, just for your shares,
(43:48):
thank you so much, just for youknow what you're doing.
I can't speak enough.
I guess it's just the podcasterin me really wanting to help
students and teachers do thesame, but in and tying in that
that education aspect you knowthe lessons and so on and how it
could also turn into a podcastand how this could be a way to
also assess learning in adifferent way.
(44:11):
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Today we are going into theworld of podcasts and we're
going to be specifically talkingabout Adobe Podcasts and I'm
just really excited to welcome aphenomenal guest that I had the
pleasure of just kind ofdropping in on a live event that
(01:15):
they were doing and I was like,oh my gosh, like everything
kind of lined up, I need to makesure that I have Harmony
Jurudic here on the show andtoday she is our wonderful guest
.
So, harmony, how are you doingtoday?
Harmony Jiroudek (01:32):
I'm doing well , fonz.
Thanks so much for having me.
I can't believe we're alreadyinto February and, yeah, super
excited to be here.
Fonz (01:40):
Oh you're telling me, I mean living in the world of
education, I mean time isdefinitely flying.
I mean, yeah, so I totally,totally I mean, but thank you so
much for being here and I'mglad, like I said, I dropped in
into that live session that youguys were doing and Dave Jackson
was.
It was his turn at that timeand I was like, oh okay, I know
(02:01):
Dave and I'm very familiar withDave, so it was fantastic to be
able to see you and connect withyou through that live event and
now to have you as a guest andcontinue our podcast
conversation.
I'm really excited about that.
So, before we get started, ifyou can give us a little brief
introduction and what yourcontext is within the podcast
space, that would be somethingfantastic for our audience
(02:23):
members to know.
Within the podcast space, thatwould be something fantastic for
our audience members to know.
Harmony Jiroudek (02:25):
Yeah, happy to .
So I currently lead customereducation and success for Adobe
Podcast.
We are a relatively youngerproduct within the larger Adobe
ecosystem so product's beenaround a little over a year now.
Previously I was at a companycalled Descript, a similar
product, so been in thepodcasting product space for,
(02:46):
yeah, four plus years now atthis point.
Fonz (02:49):
Excellent, so we're going to go ahead and dive in.
And what you mentioned is thatthe Adobe for podcasting is a
little younger and I know wewere talking a little bit
pre-chat and I brought up thefact that having the opportunity
to be an Adobe innovator andmaking my chance, or getting a
chance, excuse me to travel toLehigh two years ago that is the
(03:10):
first time that I wasintroduced to Adobe podcast and
just to see from that back thentwo years ago to where it was
just a week ago when I waspresenting at TCA.
It was just a week ago when Iwas presenting at TCA and, like
I mentioned to you, then I cameback and I just kind of started
messing around with it and I waslike whoa, when did this get
(03:30):
added?
And I was like I didn't seeanything, any announcements or
anything like this is fantastic,but tell me about that journey
you know as far as the team isconcerned and your work within
that team.
Harmony Jiroudek (03:42):
Sure, yeah.
So for folks that are brand newto Adobe Podcast, in short,
it's a AI-powered audiorecording and editing tool
really designed to helppodcasters and content creators
create high-quality audiocontent without getting bogged
down by the technology.
So it's super simple to use andit actually started off as kind
(04:07):
of like a what we call a quickaction, the enhanced speech
feature, which I think you'refamiliar with.
Initially it was just that itwas this landing page where you
could go drop in your audio.
It would remove backgroundnoise and echo and it would make
it sound like you recorded itin a professional studio.
So initially it was just thatand from there then we were like
(04:28):
, okay, where, where can we takethis?
And so we saw, you know, therewas a need within Adobe, like
like, we don't have like a toolthat that's out there for
recording podcasts, so let'sbuild remote recording into the
product as well.
So we have this feature calledStudio that allows you to do
remote recording, send a guest alink, or you can do solo
(04:49):
recording as well.
As soon as you're done, ittranscribes everything and you
can do text-based editing.
And there's great like built-inroyalty-free music, and we
actually just added to the musiclibrary.
So lots going on.
Fonz (05:02):
And that is a lot because, like I mentioned to you, we
just got a little glimpse thereand, mind you, this is a room
full of Adobe for Educationinnovators, so we're all you
know in the K-12 classrooms,whether we are in the classroom
or supporting teachers in theclassroom and students and so on
.
So when I got a glimpse of this, I was before going to Lehigh.
(05:24):
I had already been familiar andseen it through another friend
of mine.
His name is Dylan Schmidt.
Great podcast.
Harmony Jiroudek (05:31):
Yeah, digital.
Fonz (05:33):
Yeah, he's awesome, yeah, he was on my show and so he
obviously he's always likeputting out content and he did a
video like that.
And as I started using it, Iwas like this is fantastic.
Just for cleaning up that audioI mean, even if you're using
the voice memo notes on yourphone and do a quick recording
and then to be able to drop itin and clean that up, I mean I
was like don't have to worryabout you know, $400 mics are up
(05:57):
and all of these interfaces andso on, and now you can just do
that here, drop it in and all ofa sudden it's like super clean,
nice audio, and then you can.
What I love is the little sliderwhere you can kind of leave
(06:19):
just a little bit of that littlebackground, if you want, just
for that ambience and all thatgood stuff.
But to see what it has turnedinto now recently and like I
mentioned to you being able topresent this at TCEA last week.
We definitely got a lot ofgreat feedback, and I say we
just because I'm a user, but Imean I just wanted to let you
(06:42):
know that people were very, veryhappy, especially with the
transcript editing portion.
And so, as an educator, many ofthe classroom uses of podcasting
have been, to you know, showcontent, content mastery,
learning and knowledge showcontent, content mastery,
(07:07):
learning and knowledge.
But now having been able to dothis and seeing the transcript
and students being able to cleanup and edit the audio and
removing some of these verbalcrutches that you hear me
sometimes with the uhs, the umsand the plosives, is something
that is fantastic, and so it'sbeen great to see the product
grow.
So I'm just really excited tolearn a little bit more about
where this may be going.
(07:28):
But before we get into that, Iknow you kind of told us a
little bit of the story thereand you know, I guess, removing
some of those barriers.
But I wanted to ask you, justbecause of your background and
where it is that you're comingfrom in the podcast space and
bringing that experience intoAdobe for Podcast.
I didn't even get to ask youand I'm sure that our audience
(07:49):
is wanting to know is how didyou, harmony, get into
podcasting or now being part ofthe podcast world?
Harmony Jiroudek (07:58):
Yeah, yeah, it definitely wasn't expected.
I'll say that right out thegate.
I'm a musician at heart.
That's what I actually did myundergrad and graduate studies
in, and so, thinking about mycareer path, it certainly has
not been linear.
One thing that I did right outof school is I actually started
working for the institution Iwent to.
It's called CaliforniaInstitute of the Arts and I
(08:21):
loved just like working withstudents, helping them.
Like you know, we would doinformational sessions, we'd
talk about all of the you knowsix different departments and be
like OK, so you're interestedin music technology, let's dig
into that a little bit more.
What type of skills are youtrying to hone?
And so became a counselor andrecruiter, working at a startup
(08:45):
where it was all about makingarts education more accessible
to students around the world.
Because I I feel veryprivileged that I got to go to a
school like this, but I had totake out student loans and I was
still paying them back, um, soyou know would the goal of that
startup was really to just makethat type of education more
accessible, to get collegecredit, um, and through that.
That's kind of when mye-learning journey started.
So we built a learningmanagement system from the
(09:07):
ground up that was reallybespoke to the arts and creative
technology.
So I was.
I wore many hats, I was aproducer, won win-win support
team for a while, and so we tookon-campus courses and then
turned them to.
It was like during the moocboom where, like Coursera, edx,
so we did pre-production,brought instructors to our green
(09:31):
screen, filmed them fastforward.
Then I segued into like kind oflike HR compliance training,
got a little bit more familiarwith Cornerstone, lms and
building that, those types ofonline courses.
And then I say then, then atthat point I segued it to
Descript and I fell in love withthe product.
(09:52):
It's like this this is great,there's so many things that you
can do with it.
And that's kind of when mypodcasting journey began.
Fonz (09:59):
That is fantastic.
Now let me ask you too, beinglike you mentioned your passion
for music.
I myself, too, am verypassionate about music and play
several instruments, but isthere a particular instrument
that you grew up playing thatyou really favor, or are you
just like myself, kind of like amulti-passionate creative and
you just learn a little bit ofevery instrument?
Harmony Jiroudek (10:21):
Yeah, so I'm primarily a vocalist, but I grew
up taking piano lessons beforevocal lessons, so it was great
having that foundationalknowledge kind of branched into
like doing some singer,songwriter stuff, but then
trained classically as avocalist.
Fonz (10:39):
Nice, excellent.
Well, I mean all of that, Ithink honestly really ties into
your current work and, like youknow you mentioned you know you
went from that to a differentcompany, descript and then you
know, learning about that andthen just now also coming out to
Adobe and just to be able tohelp and grow that and have that
vision too as well.
(11:00):
I think that that's somethingthat is fantastic.
So your experience, you know,now you worked for this company,
descript, and then now you workfor Adobe.
How long were you at Descriptfor?
Harmony Jiroudek (11:13):
About like three and a half years or so,
and Descript is also a startup.
You know I started when therewere a little less than 50
people there and now it's like Ithink it's tripled at this
point and I think you know forme I was primarily working with
enterprise customers, so youknow great production teams that
(11:34):
were producing high qualitypodcasts and it was really about
getting into the nitty grittyof their workflows,
understanding like where timeDescript fit into their workflow
.
So if they were also usingtools like Audition and Premiere
and Pro Tools, it was like, ok,how can we onboard and make you
successful with Descript atthat time.
Fonz (11:54):
Excellent.
Well, that's fantastic because,like I said, I'm thankful for
you and your experience andobviously your passion that you
have just because you knowseeing you, you know with these
events and having Dave on andjust having wonderful speakers.
And then I know you and I havebeen going back and forth, you
know, as far as messaging.
But I'm just really excitedwhere Adobe podcast is going now
(12:15):
because, like I mentioned, Ican't stop talking enough about
it because of my experience withit and also because I've had
the opportunity, working at adistrict as a digital learning
coordinator, I get theopportunity to work with
educators and they go intoteacher classrooms and maybe
they have a project and theyjust want to do something a
little bit different.
Or, you know, in this case,I'll go into libraries and I'll
(12:38):
give them an idea of how theycan go ahead and leverage the
power of podcast for, you know,doing their book reviews and
little things, or little minipods, micro pods for you know,
just giving reviews on books,main characters, little things
like that, just so you know itbuilds up just that community.
And also for the students to beable to just have that
(12:58):
ownership and feel like they'repart of something bigger.
And what I see here is, as youbring your experience in with
the rest of the team, I thinkthat this is going to be
something that's going to befantastic and I look forward to
all the great things that arecoming.
So, with your background ineducation, and then, of course,
going into the market, as far asDescript working with
(13:19):
enterprise customers, what doyou find is, you know, maybe a
couple of the biggest barriersof entry that maybe some people
that may be interested because,as our audience here, we have a
lot of educators that maybe areinterested in starting a podcast
, but they don't know where tostart and you know how to get
started.
So, with your experience, whatwould be some actionable where
to start?
And you know how to get started?
So, with your experience, whatwould be some actionable steps
(13:41):
for them to say, hey, let's,this is a way that we can remove
that barrier and that you canjust click, record and start
producing something.
Harmony Jiroudek (13:49):
Yeah, I think like, first off, there's a lot
of fear or apprehension to evenjust like push the record button
right, like so, um.
So I think you know, on onehand, there's a lot of like kind
of pre-production stuff you canget out of the way, like while
you're getting over that fear ofhitting the you know red record
button.
So it's like you know, planning, doing research on the, on the
(14:12):
people that you're interviewing,like figuring out who your
audience is and coming up withsome personas and figuring out,
like you know, talking to people, like is this even something
that is going to be worthwhile?
Like getting you know divinginto and um, and then I think,
like also the tech it can justlike it can bog people down.
I think we're at this point nowyou know it's 2025 the market's
(14:34):
pretty saturated with differenttools out there, like if you
search for transcription tools,like there's just so many things
out there, and so I think oneis just like give yourself time
to try out different tools.
I don't think there's like a onesize fits all right, like it's,
you know, use the tool that'sgoing to be most conducive to
(14:56):
the way that works well based onyour workflow and also just
allows you to be able to getinto interesting conversations
and not get bogged down by thetechnology and be able to focus
on the story.
So I would say test outdifferent software, see what
works best for you after doingthat bit of research.
(15:16):
And I would also say, like,record yourself and probably
throw away the first things thatyou record.
You know you may come back, youknow and listen to something
and see or hear it with adifferent lens and be like, oh
yeah, like I'm really glad I,you know, did a couple practice
rounds.
Now I'm going to come back atit a little bit more informed,
(15:40):
based on what I heard the firsttime around and maybe it was
just like the filler words.
It was like, oh man, I said,and like so many times.
So I'm going to, I got thosefew practice episodes under my
belt.
I'm going to come back evenmore prepared.
Fonz (15:53):
Excellent and that is fantastic advice.
And you know, if I could goback and start things all over
again, I would probably havestarted there.
But you know, I'll be honestwith you, like when I was in the
classroom this was maybe about10 years ago going to a
(16:19):
conference, and so I would juststart recording in the classroom
with my students and so wewould do a lesson, and what I
would do is I would walk aroundjust with my phone and I'd
record all my students and whatI would do is we would have an
activity where we were goingover.
Let's say it was either, youknow just, I don't know the
Revolutionary War, or theRoaring 20s was, you know, an
era that was a lot of fun andthe students always had a great
(16:40):
time.
So it was great that what Iwould do is I would assign
certain sections of thosereadings to students.
So if I had 25 kids, then Iwould assign certain sections to
them, and then everybody was asubject matter expert.
So I would just say, all right,at this time, dr Garcia, our
guest here, who's joining usfrom the University of so-and-so
(17:00):
, just make it up.
And then, of course, they'dspeak their part, and then I
would put all that together andshare it with parents through
our digital newsletter.
It was something that wasfantastic that I never thought
at that time that I was or wewere doing a podcast.
It was just to me it wassomething like, oh, we're just
having some fun and enjoying.
(17:21):
But now I mean, this is where alot of classrooms currently
want to go or are in or theyhope to get into.
So I really appreciate theadvice that you gave for
individuals, but also forstudents, for teachers and
students also to have, just tomake sure that we don't get
bogged down with a lot of thetech.
(17:42):
And so one of the things that Ilove, like I mentioned, is the
ease of use of Adobe podcast,because my philosophy I always
tell people and those that knowme I always say, hey, I just got
to keep it KISS, keep it simpleand streamlined.
Ok, other people put another Sin there, a different type of S,
but I just say, if you keep itsimple and streamlined, you're
(18:03):
going to be good to go, and Ican't think of a better platform
than Adobe Podcast.
So, going back to the platformand what it's able to do, I just
find it fascinating, like Isaid, as the ease of use of
being able to go in there andjust click that record button
(18:24):
and really go in and talk, andthat transcript is huge.
It's a huge help because thereare many, like you mentioned,
platforms that are out therethat still use, you know, the
audio wave files, and thenhaving to go in there and cut
and listen and cut and so on.
But here I mean you've got anice transcript that's similar
(18:45):
to a Word doc or a Google docand highlight, delete and boom,
you just continue going on.
I mean that is something thatis fantastic.
What has been some of thefeedback that you get from this?
Because I know, like youmentioned, it's all about that
time and efficiency.
So what are some of thefeedback that you get from this?
Because I know, like youmentioned, it's all about that
time and efficiency.
So what are some of the thingsthat you hear on your side?
Harmony Jiroudek (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, no , I think like there's two main
things I hear.
One is just because you knowagain, we're not the only
text-based editor in the gamenow.
So I think like the main thingis that the simplicity of it.
You know, like you literallyopen up a project, there's a
couple buttons on the left,there's a record button, there's
(19:26):
an invite guest button andthat's it.
So once you get your transcriptback, you're really just
focused on that transcriptediting experience.
So just the simplicity and easeof use, I think really comes
into play.
The other thing too, likeespecially, I think, like
thinking about, you know, thestudent experience.
There's so many sort of usecases for using it in the
(19:50):
classroom, whether it's like toyour point, using it on a like a
culmination project or a bookreview, or even language
learning, like you know, be ableto see, like even language
learning, like you know, be ableto see like students light up,
like when they hear their voice,you know like recorded back and
then they, then they you knowthere's room for you know that
self assessment and makingimprovements from there.
(20:10):
So like I just I love seeinglike students and faculty like
light up when they realize like,oh, I can record and then get
the transcript back.
And just recently, as you and Iwere discussing earlier, you
can now transcribe in sixdifferent languages, which I
think is huge, especially foreducation.
So I think like there's thiselement of like wider
(20:35):
accessibility and option forinclusive learning.
So, yeah, that paired with theease of use, and then we'll get
to this but also access to AdobeExpress.
So there's, when you sign upfor Adobe Podcast or Adobe
Express, you automatically getaccess to the other.
So it's basically you've gotyour podcasting tool and your
(20:58):
design and you know, video toollike wrapped up into like one
subscription and to me, for likeas a, you know, as- an educator
.
It's like this is all you need.
So, um, I think that would bethe thing that like rounds out,
like what's what makes it uniquein the market?
Fonz (21:14):
yes, yes, yes to all of that because, like I said, it
was funny, you know, also justcoming back from TCEA and I was
like, well, let me just sit hereand I think this was February
7th actually, because I have myproject dated right here so I
came in here I was like, well,let me try it out, because of
the presentation, I'll have anopportunity to go to Puerto Rico
and share on this.
(21:34):
And there it is, it's all inSpanish.
And then not only that, butjust I love, like you mentioned,
the way that the UX for it isfairly simple.
You can either upload youraudio and you can fix that, you
can add the music, you can add,you know, your intros, outros,
mid sections.
But one of the things that I dolove about this is the ability
(21:59):
to have more than one studentand in this case, the only
reason that I'm saying studentsis because this is who I work
with the most but to be able tohave them podcast together and
just, you know, even though theymay not be like, let's say, in
the same class, this could be aproject that is worked on, you
know, after school or things ofthat sort, where they have
access to that I think that thisis something that is fantastic,
(22:22):
where they get to work on thatand, like you mentioned, submit
a.
You know a culmination project.
You know something describingtheir unit, or a novel that
they're writing or, excuse me, anovel that they're reading?
and studying and just to be ableto partner together and just
show their knowledge.
But they're working on properlanguage acquisition.
(22:42):
And again, the only reason I'mbringing teacher talk here is
because I want my teachers tounderstand that you know, in the
speaking portion, their properlanguage.
They get to also work onpronunciation, they get to edit,
they get you know and build upthose personal communication,
collaboration skills also in one, and the critical thinking.
(23:03):
But then you added thatwonderful bonus that I tell my
teachers it's like after that, Imean, you've got the creative
component through Adobe Express2 as well.
So that's something that isfantastic all wrapped into one
platform.
I was like this is fantasticand wrapped into one platform.
I was like this is fantasticand I'm absolutely loving it.
That's for sure.
So so, harmony, let me get alittle bit more just from you as
(23:28):
far as a couple of things thatI do know.
That I did notice.
That I absolutely love too isas far as downloads.
I know when I was at TCA youknow teachers were like, well,
how does this file download?
Because some of them may wantto just bring in a section of
video to fix the audio.
So I love the download portionmenu because it's very simple.
(23:49):
You can either download as anaudio MP3, you can download the
transcript as a TXT file.
You can also do audiograms,which I thought was something
fantastic that I stumbled upontoo as well.
So tell us a little bit aboutsome of those features as far as
the download side of it.
Harmony Jiroudek (24:07):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that's kind of like the, you know, the last piece in
the workflow of like, okay, I'verecorded, I've edited, I've
gotten it perfect, I've maybeenhanced and added my video.
So now how do I get it out andshare it with, either with my
classroom or share it with theworld?
And the goal at that point isreally just like, let's present
(24:28):
you with a bunch of differentoptions Because, like for me, I
can't really, like I need, ifI'm watching a video or just
listening to a podcast, like Ineed the transcript as well, um
for it to be more, you know,more sticky, um.
And so you can, yeah, downloadthe final edited audio in a wave
or mp3 form.
Then, below that, you've gotyour transcript that you can
(24:51):
download in a couple differentformats.
We do like txt, docx and pdf,um, all kind of good for
different, various use cases.
With the premium plan, you candownload your original
recordings.
So if, for example, if we wererecording in there, it would
record us on separate tracks soI could pull those down.
(25:12):
And then, last but not least,audiograms.
You know, I think particularlyin podcasting, for folks that
are doing audio only content,this gives you a really kind of
easy way of converting youraudio into engaging video really
quickly.
So what you're seeing in theplatform right now is kind of
like V1.
It was kind of like you know.
(25:32):
Here's what the initialiteration of this looks like.
But, as you know, you know youwant to be able to like change
the background color.
You want to add your logo andyour branding.
You might want to add a pictureof the person or a video of
someone that you're interviewing, so that's like basically like
what's to come next.
But yeah, we needed to get thatMVP out.
Fonz (25:52):
Yes, no, but that's so exciting and, if you don't mind,
what I'm going to do here isI'm going to go ahead and just
do a quick share screen and thenwhat I'm going to do is I'm
just going to demo the audiogramthat I created, and, of course,
this is going to be in Spanish.
Like I mentioned, when I cameback from TCA I was like all
right, I'm so excited I get topresent this in Puerto Rico and
I have to do my presentation inSpanish.
(26:13):
But oh no, I noticed that itsaid, hey, it does not
transcribe in other languagesother than English.
Still, but now this is what Ilove.
And so check out this greataudiogram that I was creating.
And thank you, harmony and therest of the team, because, like
you said, I know that this isgoing to change later on, you
know, but first you got to takethose baby steps.
(26:33):
But this is huge, so let meshare with you all what you can
do.
Hola, mis amigos, estoy muycontento de estar aquí con
ustedes para presentar sobrepodcasting en la aula.
So, again, that's just a quicklittle demo again of what you
are able to do through AdobePodcast.
(26:53):
And this is really excitingbecause, again, you know, living
in this time where you knowit's content creation, content
creation and even as educators,I know many times we feel and I
know I feel many times that ourstudents have become consumers
in the classroom of content.
But now this is a greatopportunity to allow them to be
(27:16):
those content creators wherethey're creating something that
essentially didn't exist.
They're bringing it to life byclicking that wonderful little
record button and that'ssomething that is fantastic
where they can also see theirtranscript and I'll bring this
in here also as well Like wewere talking about the
transcript portion right here,like we were talking about the
transcript portion right here,and so this is just a quick
(27:37):
little recording that I did, butI just wanted to share with you
.
And what Harmony and myselfhave been talking about is just
the ease of use, where now I cango ahead and just take this
whole section here, click deleteand I have just cleaned up my
transcript.
If I want to bring it back,I'll just do Control-Z and then
do some other edits, but this issomething that is great.
That has definitely lowered thebarrier to entry for our
(28:02):
educators, for our students andespecially for school districts.
That are one-to-one Chromebooks, even on a Chromebook.
One thing that I have done andshared is you can always have
two students pair up with oneChromebook and they can still
record the podcast together andthey can still do some podcast
together and they can still dosome of those edits.
Or you can just the teacher cango ahead and buy a nice USB mic
(28:24):
or, through the district, andplug in a nice USB mic.
That's very inexpensive andthen the students can go ahead
and share the mic as they'respeaking their parts, because
now that barrier of entry is nolonger there, you don't have to
be bogged down with.
Well, no, I need a, I need aRodecaster Pro.
Nothing wrong with having that,but the expense that it has,
(28:45):
and then also to just be able torecord four students at a time,
because you're not going tohave, you know, a Rodecaster Pro
for every set of students,which would be great if you did.
But this is a great way whereyou don't have to spend a lot of
money and you're still going toget some great quality outputs
too as well, and this is reallyexciting.
So, harmony, you know we talkeda little bit about this.
(29:06):
So what's on the roadmap?
I mean the things that youmight be able to disclose.
I mean, I would assume that,like you talked about, there
would be those options on theaudiograms to be able to, like
you mentioned, change the color,put in some graphics and tie it
in.
More to that, either AdobeExpress, or is it something that
will be here within or built inwithin Adobe podcast.
Harmony Jiroudek (29:28):
So, as I mentioned, we just added a
multi-language transcription.
Previously you could only do itin English, could only do it in
English.
We also just localized theplatform in 10 different
languages now.
So what will be coming?
It will be more languagesupport.
You know, hopefully we want toget another, you know, at least
five to 10 languages added inthe next few quarters.
(29:50):
So just making it moreaccessible on that level.
Another thing, one thing thatwe heard we were actually
attended a podfest recently inOrlando.
Everyone was like where's video?
How can I record video?
So right now, Adobe podcast inthe studio feature is it's an
audio only recording tool.
(30:13):
So I would say it's not amatter of if, it's just a matter
of when we incorporate video in.
So, just like we are here inStreamYard, be able to do that
and then still have that clean,simple transcript interface to
be able to edit and work from.
I would say, yeah, the languagepiece and video are probably
two of the larger coreinvestments that we're going to
(30:36):
be working on in the comingmonths.
Fonz (30:38):
That's fantastic.
Well, I'm really excitedbecause, like I said, for me,
the simplicity of use and, mostimportantly, because, at least
in my mind, as a teacher, like Isaid, as an educator, lifelong
learner but in working witheducators, I feel that this is
probably one of the mostcomplete platforms that is out
there right now that has theease of use with the transcript
learner.
But in working with educators,I feel that this is probably one
of the most complete platformsthat is out there right now that
(31:00):
has the ease of use with thetranscript.
Like I mentioned to you, I sawsome demos with other platforms
that do the transcript and itwas not very user friendly, as
this is where you haveeverything just on one screen
you highlight, backspace, deleteand you're ready to go and you
really don't waste any time.
You've got your built-in sounds, you've got, you know, your
(31:22):
wonderful filters too, like Imentioned, where you can either
strengthen the clean voice andremove some of that background
and clean things up, or just,you know, tweak it just enough,
where you can have that littleambient sound and just bring in
that authentic audio.
It's up to you.
But, like I said, the ease ofuse, being able to invite guests
, podcast together and then, ofcourse, now with the excitement
(31:44):
of you know, later on like yousaid, it's not too far ahead,
but I know pretty soon that youknow being able to incorporate
audio, I mean, excuse me, thevideo portion of that.
That would be something thatwould be fantastic, because now
what I'm seeing is the amazingvalue of all students in an
(32:04):
Adobe district that have accessto Adobe Express to be able to
take that creativity to thatdifferent level and be able to
speak their learning, sharetheir learning in a wide variety
of ways where they'll be ableto speak it, do some design work
behind it and just really havea complete finished product that
(32:27):
looks fantastic and, of course,that's something that really
excites me and it's really goingto engage the students as well,
rather than, you know, thetypical worksheet or digital
worksheet even you know, becausemany times, as educators, we
just take the same worksheet butwe just digitize it and say,
okay, we're using tech, but inreality you're just substituting
and doing the exact same thing,but here, oh my gosh, you've
(32:49):
definitely opened up just somany more ways that the students
can show their learning andtheir mastery of the content.
So this is exciting Harmony.
I appreciate what you and therest of the team are doing and
thank you so much for thewonderful shares as far as what
will be coming down the pipeline, and that is very exciting for
sure.
Harmony Jiroudek (33:09):
Absolutely, you know.
You actually made me think ofone more thing, and that's
hitting on our enhanced speechtool.
So we recently released V2.
And, based on some feedbackthat we were hearing, there was
kind of a need to have like alittle bit more control over how
much background noise you wantto bring in versus how much you
enhance the voice.
So we're going to be makingsome improvements to the slider
(33:32):
experience.
So instead of one single sliderwe're going to add a second one
, just so that you have a littlebit more mixing control.
So that actually thinking of,like you know, sounds in the
classroom, maybe you want tohear some of the background
voices of, like maybe theteacher's lecturing, but you
want to hear a little bit of theexcitement that's going on in
the classroom, so you can have alittle bit more control over
that.
Fonz (33:53):
Perfect, and so I'm going to go ahead and just share my
screen here one more time.
And this is what we're talkingabout, because currently you
have the enhanced speech righthere and you can either turn
that off or turn that on, and Iknow you've got the slider
option here where you can gofull 100 percent or just kind of
tweak it and just really catchthat extra little ambiance and
background.
Just, you know, have it maybejust a nice little subtle touch
(34:21):
there in the background, but,like I said, it's just the ease
of use.
For me is really what the gamechanger is is that, you know,
for teachers to not feel veryoverwhelmed, the UX UI for
teachers, the UX UI for teachers, the UX UI for students, and
like, when I went to theparticular school that I was
(34:42):
working with, I was working withfourth graders and then I was
working with sixth graders andthey were just very excited at
how easy it was to just recordrecord together and how easy it
was for them to edit, and so,like I mentioned, this is
something that even the studentsreally enjoyed and gave me some
great feedback, and, of course,the librarian and the teachers
(35:05):
that I work with also gave greatfeedback with this and you know
about the platform because youknow it just makes that less, I
guess, nerve wracking that as ateacher, you feel like, oh my
gosh, I've got to learn thiswhole other platform and I got
to learn all of this.
It's like no, the kids canbecome those podcast subject
matter experts right away andhelp each other immediately
(35:26):
because of the UX and the UI.
Absolutely, yeah, excellent.
Well, harmony, thank you somuch.
I really appreciate youspending a little bit of time
with me here and I don't know, Iknow, in this episode, guys, I
know you guys are listening andyou're probably like, oh my gosh
, fonz really sounds reallyexcited about this.
And yes, I am.
I am really excited about thisand I'm really excited about all
(35:49):
the great things that Harmonyshared too as well, because,
guys, I definitely you know,maybe this is one of the most
either just I don't know maybeunderutilized tools that we have
.
If you're in Adobe District,make sure that you check out
podcastadobecom because you'llhave access to it, get on it,
share it with your teachers,show them just a little bit of
(36:10):
basics and watch them, and thestudents take off with it,
because this is a wonderfulplatform to help them continue
to grow and engage in thelearning as well One of the
things, too, that Harmonymentioned.
You know, in having thetranscripts and having students
be able to hear their voices Forall of you, we know that it's
TELPIS season, where thestudents have to work on their
(36:31):
speaking skills.
So just to be able to have aplatform where they can easily
click, record, read something,give you some feedback and they
can listen to it, and you canlisten to it.
Now you have a digital artifactthat you can save and you can
show progress and growth fromthe beginning of the year to the
end of the year as far aslanguage is concerned.
(36:52):
And so think about those things, teachers.
This is wonderful.
It doesn't always I know thatI'm kind of putting that in
there, but also it's just thefun that goes with it, too, as
well.
So, thank you, thank you, adobePodcast, thank you, harmony,
for being here and sharing allthe wonderful love and the goods
that Adobe's bringing.
So, guys, be on the lookout forthat, but for right now, make
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sure you log on and try it out.
All right, harmony?
So before we wrap up, as youknow, here on the show, we
always love to end our episodeswith these last three questions.
So hopefully you are ready togo.
All right, let's go.
Here we go.
So question number one Allright, we know that every
superhero has a pain point andfor Superman, that kryptonite
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weakened him, or it just caused,you know, just some weakness in
him, and it was just that, likeI mentioned, a pain point.
I know I'm sounding veryrepetitive, but I want to ask
you, in the current state ofeducation, what would you say,
is your current edu kryptonite?
Harmony Jiroudek (37:57):
What would you say, is your current edu
kryptonite?
It's a good question.
Well, I have two, if that's OK.
Is that all right?
Fonz (38:03):
Absolutely, the more the merrier OK awesome.
Harmony Jiroudek (38:12):
Well, I think one is just sort of this theme
around access to AI tools forinstructors in general and
providing adequate training andeven professional development
opportunities to teachers sothat they can really like
effectively determine what AItools are going to enhance their
classroom.
Obviously, like there's so manytools out there, and so I think,
without that, like a lot ofeducators you know they're going
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to struggle to integrate aiinto their classroom or even
just be able to talk about aifrom an informed point of view,
so that they you know they canbe in, you know getting their
students prepared for the future, to you know what's to come.
And then I think, like thething that piggybacks on that is
like having ai policies andbest practices in place so that
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you know, like when parents youneed to make an informed
decision about where to sendtheir kids, like there's, you
know there's rigor around that.
There's like there's been arigorous process in place that
informed, like this is.
You know, these are the toolsthat we allow, that we have
incorporated, and then maybewe're also piloting some stuff,
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but there's like process aroundthat.
So that's my take on that.
Fonz (39:24):
I think that's fantastic and I think that a lot of school
districts now I know it's beenwhat it'll be two years plus
since you know Chad, gpt and ofcourse still there are school
districts that don't have apolicy yet and aren't quite sure
because it's just so muchinformation out there.
But I think I absolutely loveand agree with what you said
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especially is informing parentsto allow them to make those
informed decisions too as well,and seeing like is this
something that is going to beuseful for my child or not?
Is the district making surethat they're taking matters into
, you know, any matters that maypop up, if they're ready to go
and mitigate anything that mayhappen, and because the last
(40:07):
thing we want is we don't wantour students to get hurt, you
know, by something that achatbot replies, or obviously
also the fear of data and databreaches and things of that sort
.
So I agree with you 100%, allright.
Question number two, harmony,is if you could have a billboard
with anything on it, what wouldit be and why?
Harmony Jiroudek (40:30):
It's a good one, because there's like so
much that you, you know, thatcomes to mind.
But you know, know, I thinksomething to the extent of like,
stay true to yourself and keeplearning.
You know, like I think, but,you know, been in the industry
for a while now and I think,like life is just too short to
not be yourself and not beauthentic.
(40:51):
Like I've spent a lot of timelike being a people pleaser, you
know, know, which I think I amstill to an extent, but you just
have to let others see the real.
You, you know, and I think,like that's one of the things
that I just really love aboutbeing behind a product like
Adobe podcast is like we'retrying to empower people through
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the use of innovativetechnology while keeping it as
simple as possible so thatpeople can focus on their craft
and story.
Fonz (41:20):
I love it, I love it and I think like too, like you
mentioned, authenticity is.
This is a great tool forstudents really to also just be
very authentic and, you know,not just see this like also,
like, hey, like I'm justcreating an assignment and
things of that sort, but also tobe able to just bring a little
bit of themselves into thisparticular project and, just you
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know, work on their true,authentic voice and hear that
out at such a young age, and Ithink that's something that is
important too as well.
So I really love that that yousaid.
And, just again, authenticitydefinitely goes a long way.
All right, the last thingharmony.
Last question is if you couldtrade places with one person for
a single day, who would it beand why?
Harmony Jiroudek (42:08):
so good like they're.
My artist side of me was likeI'd want to go be like a famous,
like singer, for a day.
So like I thought of likewhitney, chaka Khan, you know,
just like after you know, a dayin the life of like one of those
amazing concerts, right?
But more on a personal, like ona more family kind of side note
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, I would say Eliza Spalding,and she is my great, great,
great great grandmother.
She was one of the first womento cross the Oregon Trail with
Narcissa Whitman.
She was a Presbyterianmissionary that immigrated from
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the West Coast to the West CoastSorry, east Coast to the West
Coast and she just has anincredible story, like you know,
living in the 1800s andtraveling across the states, and
you know there was my dadactually recently wrote a book
about her life and story andworking with the Nez Perce
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community, and it was just justa really beautiful story.
So I'm just like, oh, whatwould a day in the life of Eliza
, what would that have been like?
So that's that's been top ofmind lately.
Fonz (43:28):
Yeah, that's fantastic.
Actually I if you see melooking over yours because I did
a quick Google search and justyou know being able to see what
popped up I was like, oh mygoodness, this is amazing.
And so this is great, this isfantastic.
So now I'm going to definitelylook up a little bit more
information.
But, harmony, just thank you somuch, just for your shares,
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thank you so much, just for youknow what you're doing.
I can't speak enough.
I guess it's just the podcasterin me really wanting to help
students and teachers do thesame, but in and tying in that
that education aspect you knowthe lessons and so on and how it
could also turn into a podcastand how this could be a way to
also assess learning in adifferent way.
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