October 8, 2025 • 31 mins
There are few topics where religion and politics come together like they do in the case of Israel. Should they? Does the Bible have anything special to say about the nation of Israel that it doesn’t say about every other country?
In this episode we will look at the highly controversial issue of the nation of Israel today and its relationship, if any, to prophecies in the Old Testament.
This is also one of the most common biblical subjects of our time. Millions of churchgoing people all over the world look at the Jewish people as heirs of a future empire on earth that will surpass any civilization in history.
What does the Bible say about this question?
Read about this subject:
- Scriptures: Genesis 12:1-3; Isaiah 2:1-4; Matthew 21:43
- Unfulfilled Prophecy a Discussion on Prophetic Themes by H. Leo Boles and R.H. Boll
Listen to more on this subject:
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Hi, I’m Kerry Duke, host of My Godand My Neighbor podcast from Tennessee
Bible College, where we see the Bibleas not just another book, but the Book.
Join us in a study of the inspiredWord to strengthen your faith and to
share what you've learned with others.
Israel is always in the news.
Whether a person is religious orhas no interest in religion, what
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happens in Israel seems to capturethe attention of people everywhere.
On the religious side, this isone of the most talked about and
controversial subjects in religion.
What does the Bible sayabout the nation of Israel?
Are Jews still God's chosen people?
Is Jesus coming again to establishthe nation of Israel as God’s
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kingdom on earth for a thousandyears with Jesus as the King?
Our format today is simple.
We’re going to ask some questions aboutIsrael and turn to the Bible for answers.
What did God promise to Abraham?
The passage we need toread is in Genesis 12.
In verses 1 through three the Bible says,“Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get
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thee out of thy country, and from thykindred, and from thy father's house,
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And I will make of thee a great nation, and I
will bless thee, and make thy name great;and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will
bless them that bless thee, and cursehim that curseth thee: and in thee shall
all families of the earth be blessed”[Genesis 12 verses 1 through three].
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This is one of the greatestpromises anywhere in the Bible.
Everything in the Word of God fromthis point forward is connected
to this passage and builds on it.
But let’s notice what God said to Abraham.
First of all, He toldhim about a certain land.
He told him to leave where he was,which was the land of Haran, and
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go to “a land that I will showthee.” That is very important.
This is where the greatland promise begins.
If you're going to understand why somany churches have their eyes fixed on
what is going on in this land today,you have to start in this passage.
If you're going to understand why so manypowerful nations have their attention
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in the Middle East you have to go backto the starting point in Genesis 12.
And if you're going to understandall the fighting between the Arabs
and the Israelis, you need to knowsomething about Genesis chapter 12.
God is making a promise to Abrahamthat has affected the course of human
history down to the present time.
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And the first thing that Godmentions in this promise is land.
The second thing God mentions, whichhappens to a the most important
part of the promise, is the greatnation that will come from it.
God told Abraham that he wouldmake of him, that is from or
out of Abraham, a great nation.
That means that Abraham's descendantswill grow into a great nation.
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Not just any nation, but a great nation.
A nation God wouldprovidentially bless and protect.
A nation God would preserveuntil he sent the Messiah.
When God said He would blesswhoever blessed Abraham and curse
whoever cursed Abraham, he wasn'tjust talking about Abraham.
He was talking about Abraham's descendantswho would be this great nation.
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At this time, Abraham doesn'teven have any children.
His wife, Sarah couldn'thave children at this point.
But even though Abraham didn't knowhow God would accomplish all this,
he trusted God and he obeyed Him.
That nation was the nation of Israel.
The third part of the promise thatconcerns you and me is what the
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earth be blessed.” We don't haveto wonder about what this means.
The Bible explains itin the New Testament.
Paul quotes these very words inGalatians 3 verse 8 and says that this
promise God made to Abraham includesthe Gentiles coming into the church!
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In Galatians 3 verse 8 he wrote, “Andthe scripture, foreseeing that God
would justify the heathen through faith,preached before the gospel unto Abraham,
saying, In thee shall all nations beblessed.” Paul called the words “In thee
shall all nations be blessed” Scripture!
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These words were actuallya promise of the gospel!
“And the scripture, foreseeing thatGod would justify the heathen” [the
Gentiles] “through faith, preachedbefore the gospel unto Abraham”!
How could Paul say the promisein Genesis 12 was “the gospel”?
Because this promise wasultimately fulfilled in the gospel.
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God blessed other nations in theOld Testament through the Israelite
nation, but the most importantaspect of those words is salvation
for nations other that Israel.
Paul is talking about how the Gentilesare saved in the book of Galatians.
And how are we as Gentiles saved?
The same way Jews aresaved—through the gospel!
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This is a great example of the Biblebeing its own best interpreter.
But that’s not all Paultells us in Galatians three.
Notice what he says in Galatians 3verses 26 through 29: “For ye are all the
children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
For as many of you as have beenbaptized into Christ have put on Christ.
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There is neither Jew nor Greek,there is neither bond nor free,
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And if ye be Christ's, then areye Abraham's seed, and heirs
according to the promise.” Paulsaid in verse 16 that we are all
children of God by faith in Christ.
What does he mean by the word “all”?
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He means both Jews and Gentiles.
In verse 27 he tells us how we getinto Christ: we are baptized into Him.
Verse 28 says that we arespiritual equals in Christ.
Gentiles are just as muchthe children of God as Jews.
And did you notice the word “promise”in verse 29? He says that if we are
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in Christ, we belong to Christ, andis we are His, then we are “heirs
according to the promise.” What promise?
The promise in Genesis 12 verse 3.
Not the part of the promise aboutGod blessing whoever blesses Abraham
and curses anyone who curses him.
The promise in Galatians three verse29 about being “heirs according to
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the promise” refers to the wordsin Genesis 12 verse 3: “in thee
shall all families of the earth beblessed.” Paul said in Galatians 3
verse 8 that this was the gospel!
It was fulfilled in theGentiles who became God’s
children by obeying the gospel!
These are very importantverses to remember.
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Too many people either don'tknow about them or skip past
them when they read the Bible.
Most people agree that the bestinterpreter of the Bible is the Bible.
Since Paul quotes from Genesis 12 versethree in the book of Galatians chapter
3 and says it refers to the gospel andteaches us that Christians, whether
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they are Jews or gentiles, inherit theblessing contained in the last words
of that famous promise to Abraham,doesn’t it make sense to listen to God's
interpretation of Genesis 12 insteadof listening to all kinds of modern
day interpretations of that passage?
But there's another verse in Genesischapter 12 that explains the part
of the promise about the land.
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In Genesis chapter 12 verses four andfive, Abraham did what God told him to do.
He left where he was, and hewent to the place God showed him.
That place was the land of Canaan.
The Bible then says in verse 7 (08:09):
“And the Lord appeared unto Abram, and
said, Unto thy seed will I give thisland.” This verse makes it clear that
God would give the land of Canaan toAbraham’s descendants. Verse 5 says
Abraham came to the land of Canaan,and in very seven God said “I will
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give this land” to your seed—theland he was in, the land of Canaan.
That part is clear.
But that brings us to another question.
When God said He would give the landof Canaan to Abraham’s descendants,
was that promise irrevocable?
Was the land promise conditional orwas it an unconditional promise that no
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matter what happened, they would alwayshave a God-given right to that land?
The verse we need to lookat is in the next chapter.
In Genesis chapter 13 verses 14 through 17we read, ““And the LORD said unto Abram,
after that Lot was separated from him,Lift up now thine eyes, and look from
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the place where thou art northward, andsouthward, and eastward, and westward:
For all the land which thou seest, to theewill I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
And I will make thy seed as the dustof the earth: so that if a man can
number the dust of the earth, thenshall thy seed also be numbered.
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Arise, walk through the land in thelength of it and in the breadth of
it; for I will give it unto thee.” Godrepeated what He said to Abraham before.
He said He would give thisland to Abraham’s descendants.
But this time he uses a wordwe need to look at carefully.
God said I will give this land to you andyour descendants “forever.” Does this mean
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that the Jewish people will always havea God-given right to the land of Canaan?
Many people say yes.
But let’s look at some other verseswhere that same Hebrew word is used.
It’s the Hebrew word olam.
In Deuteronomy chapter 15 verse 17, Godsaid if you have a bondservant that wants
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to stay with his master, then take anaul and thrust it through his ear and
“he shall be thy servant forever.” Doesthat mean that man would be a bondservant
to his master even after they die?
Of course not.
It means as long as he lives.
That’s a far cry from thousands of years.
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In First Samuel 1 verse 22, Hannah saidshe would send her son Samuel to the
tabernacle to give him to the Lord.
She said that he would stay there“forever.” At the very least
Samuel isn’t there now. He’s beendead over three thousand years.
She just meant that Samuelwould serve God all of his life.
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In Exodus 31 verse 17, God said thatthe Sabbath was “a sign between me
and the children of Israel forever.”That cannot mean without an end.
We know that because in Colossianschapter two verse 14 Paul said
that the law that contained theSabbath was nailed to the cross.
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Then in verses 16 and 17 of Colossians2 he said that the sabbath and the
other ceremonies in the law of Moseswere shadows of the New Testament
and they are not required anymore.
So when God said in Exodus 31 verse17 that the Sabbath was a sign
forever, he meant as long as the lawof Moses was in effect for the Jews.
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There are many other versesin the Old Testament where the
word “forever” is used to meanage-long, not permanent or eternal.
Yes, it can mean eternal, butthat depends on how it is used.
The context determines that.
It’s not that hard if you think about it.
When a man says he’s building a garage sostrong that it will stand “forever,” we
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don’t think he means forever literally.
When Daniel told king Nebuchadnezzar,“O king, live forever,” he
wasn’t saying Nebuchadnezzarwould live forever literally.
But there is another aspect of thisquestion that we need to look at.
The question is, “Was the landpromise to the descendants of
Abraham irrevocable? Was that promiseconditional or unconditional?” The
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fact is, that promise was conditional.
God never said the Jews would keepthe land regardless of how they acted.
In fact, He said just the opposite.
He told them that if they turnedaway from the law of the Lord,
they would lose that land.
And that’s exactly what happened.
Let’s look at what God toldthem in Deuteronomy chapter 28.
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In verse one of Deuteronomy 28 God said,“And it shall come to pass, if thou
shalt hearken diligently unto the voiceof the LORD thy God, to observe and to
do all his commandments which I commandthee this day, that the LORD thy God
will set thee on high above all nationsof the earth: And all these blessings
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shall come on thee, and overtake thee,if thou shalt hearken unto the voice
of the LORD thy God.” Then Moses saidthey would be blessed with prosperity
and peace and safety from your enemiesand that God will “bless thee in the
land which the LORD thy God giveththee” [Deuteronomy chapter 28 verse 8].
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They could keep the land andbe blessed IF they obeyed God.
But then in verses 15 all the waythrough the rest of the chapter
down to verse 68, he told them whatwould happen if they disobeyed God.
In verse 15 he said, “But it shall cometo pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the
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voice of the Lord thy God, to observe todo all his commandments and his statutes
which I command thee this day; that allthese curses shall come upon thee, and
overtake thee.” What he talks about inthe verses that follow should have scared
the Jews so badly that they would havenever even thought about leaving God.
He warned that they would sufferdrought, poverty, disease, and war so
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horrifying that women would eat theirown children because they were starving.
And notice what God told themabout the land He gave them.
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land whither thou goest to possess it.
The Lord shall scatter thee among allpeople, from the one end off the earth
even unto the other.” That’s the sameland He promised to Abraham’s descendants
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“forever.” But here He says thatpromise about the land was conditional.
And the fact is, we know that the Jews didthe very thing God told them not to do.
They left God and served other gods.
And they lost the land of promisebecause of their rebellion.
That happened generations later.
The Assyrians came and took thenorthern tribes of Israel off their
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land in 721 B.C. They lost controlof their land that God gave them.
In 605 B.C. the southern kingdom of Judahlost the part of the land God gave them
when the Babylonians took control anddeported thousands of Jews to Babylon.
These are verses you don’thear much about these days.
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You hear people saying, “Israelhas a right to that land because
God gave it to them.” But you don’thear them talk about these passages
that say they lost their right tothe land just like God warned them!
The facts are clear about theland promise God made to Abraham.
He made the promise.
He did what he promised.
There was not one thing God promisedthat He failed do [Joshua 23 13 through
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16 and Joshua 21 43 through 45].
And, the Jewish people forfeitedtheir right to the land because
of their sins, just as God hadwarned in Deuteronomy chapter 28.
But you may be thinking, “What aboutthe promise in Deuteronomy chapter
30? God said He would bring His peopleback to the promised land after their
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captivity.” God did promise that Hewould bring them back from the land
of their captivity when they repented.
Deuteronomy chapter 30 says, “theLord your God will bring you back
from captivity, and have compassionon you, and gather you again from
all the nations where the Lord yourGod has scattered you…Then the Lord
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your God will bring you to the landwhich your fathers possessed, and you
shall possess it” [verses 3 and 5].
The book of Nehemiah tells usabout the Jews who returned
to Jerusalem from Babylon.
And in Nehemiah chapter 1 verses eightthrough 10, Nehemiah says that return was
the fulfillment of Deuteronomy chapter 30.
Think about it.
The Bible explicitly says in Nehemiahchapter one verses eight through 10
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that the promise of the Jews returninghome was fulfilled in Nehemiah‘s day.
“Remember, I pray, the word that Youcommanded Your servant Moses, saying,
'If you are unfaithful, I will scatteryou among the nations; but if you return
to Me, and keep My commandments and dothem, though some of you were cast out
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to the farthest part of the heavens, yetI will gather them from there, and bring
them to the place which I have chosen asa dwelling for My name.’ Now these are
Your servants and Your people, whom Youhave redeemed by Your great power, and by
Your strong hand.” This passage says thatDeuteronomy 30 has already been fulfilled!
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That was over 400 years before Jesus.
But even then, there was a big differencebetween the Jewish people in the
promised land before they went intocaptivity and after they came back to
the promised land after the captivity.
When the Jews in Babylon returnedto Jerusalem in the days of Ezra
and Nehemiah, they were not thekind of kingdom they were before.
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They were not an independent nation.
They were under the rule of aforeign nation – Persia, and after
the Persians, they were under theauthority of the Greek Empire.
Then, after the Greeks, they wereunder the power of the Roman Empire.
Even though God restored them totheir land, He didn’t restore their
power and their status as a kingdomwith their king ruling on a throne
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like He did before their fall.
These facts are straight from the Bible.
They don’t add drama to internationalpolitics surrounding Israel.
They don’t add excitement to thelatest news about the Middle East.
They don’t keep people on theedge of their seats guessing
about the end of time.
But this is the truth about Israel.
You may be thinking, “Butwhat about prophecies in the
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Old Testament of the kingdom?
Are you saying those prophecies havealready been fulfilled?” Let’s take
a look at some of those prophecies.
In Isaiah chapter 2 verses onethrough four, the prophet wrote,
“The word that Isaiah the son of Amozsaw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
Now it shall come to pass in the latterdays that the mountain of the Lord's house
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shall be established on the top of themountains, and shall be exalted above the
hills; and all nations shall flow to it.
Many people shall come and say, "Come,and let us go up to the mountain of
the Lord, to the house of the God ofJacob; He will teach us His ways, and
we shall walk in His paths." For outof Zion shall go forth the law, and
the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
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He shall judge between the nations,and rebuke many people; They shall
beat their swords into plowshares, andtheir spears into pruning hooks; Nation
shall not lift up sword against nation,neither shall they learn war anymore.”
Let’s ask some very simplequestions about this passage: When?
What?
Who?
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Where?
How?
And why?
The first thing he mentionsis the time factor.
He said this would takeplace in the last days.
If you ask 100 people today whatthe last days in the Bible are,
probably 99 out of a hundred willsay it refers to the last few months
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or maybe years before Jesus comes.
But if we just read the Bible, we’ll seethe Bible interpreting what this means.
In Acts chapter 2, Peter saidhe and the people of his day
were living in the last days.
That’s 2,000 years ago.
In Acts chapter 2 verses 16 and 17 hesaid: “But this is what was spoken by
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'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, that I
will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh.”
That’s a quotation from thebook of Joel in chapter 2.
Joel prophesied of the outpouringof the Holy Spirit to begin the new
dispensation that ushered in the church.
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Peter said these words about what washappening on Pentecost Day: “this is that
which was spoken by the prophet Joel.“How could the Bible be any plainer?
But that’s not all.
In Hebrews chapter 1 verse two, thewriter says God has spoken to us “in these
last days by his Son.” “These last days”mean the days he was living in, not the
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time we’re living in 2,000 years later!
Peter said in First Peter chapter 1 verse20 that Jesus was “manifest in these
last times for you.” He calls his day andage the “last times.” How could that be?
The world didn’t come toan end in Peter‘s day.
But he’s not talking aboutthe end of the world.
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That’s the problem.
That’s the misunderstanding.
These verses clearly show that peopleliving in the first century 2,000
years ago were in the last days.
The last days of what?
Not the last days of the world itself.
This means the last days of the Jewishnation that God promised to Abraham.
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It’s coming to an end.
The second question about Isaiah chapter2 verses one through four is what?
What is he talking about?
The answer is the house of the Lord.
Here again many people assume thathe’s talking about the literal
physical temple in Jerusalem.
And although Isaiah does prophesyabout the future of national Israel,
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the main focus of the propheciesin Isaiah is the Messiah and his
kingdom, that is, Jesus and his church.
Notice what the New Testamentsays about the house of the Lord.
In First Timothy chapter 3, verse15, Paul said that the house of God
is the church of the living God.
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In Second Corinthians chapter 6,verse 16, Paul said “for you are the
temple of the living God.” In FirstPeter chapter 2 verse 5, Peter said
that Christians are living stoneswho compose a spiritual house.
The book of Hebrew shows that the OldTestament temple, which was the house of
the Lord, was a foreshadow of the church.
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It was never intended to be permanent.
So the church being the house of the Lordfits perfectly with what Isaiah said.
Number three.
Who are the people whocome into this house?
Not just the Jewish people.
Isaiah said that allnations will flow into it.
Gentiles in Jesus’ day came tothe temple to pray and to learn,
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and they could convert to Judaism,but as a whole they could never
fully participate in the worship.
But in the house of the Lord, whichis the church, God’s spiritual
building, Gentiles are equal to Jews.
Jesus died for allmen – Jews and Gentiles.
He told His apostles to make disciplesof “all nations” [Matthew chapter
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28 verse 19]. Peter said that Godwas not a partial God, but in “every
nation” he who fears Him and worksrighteousness is accepted with him
[Acts chapter 10 verses 34 and 35].
So in the third point ofIsaiah’s prophecy, we find that
the New Testament correspondsperfectly to what Isaiah wrote.
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how?
This finds the same agreementin the New Testament.
Again, in the great commission ofMatthew chapter 28 versus 18 through 20,
Jesus said to go everywhere and teach.
Isaiah said that people willgo to the house of the Lord to
be taught the ways of the Lord.
The church is God‘s teaching institution.
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When you read the book ofActs, you find the disciples
teaching everywhere at all times.
So the fourth point of harmony andagreement between the Old Testament
prophecy and the New Testamentfulfillment is how people in the
house of the Lord learn God‘s will.
Number five.
Where?
Again the Bible is very specific.
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The starting point is not in Rome.
It is not at Antioch.
It is in Jerusalem.
Isaiah said that the law of theLord would go forth from Jerusalem.
Just before Jesus ascended to heaven,He told His disciples to wait in
the city of Jerusalem for powerfrom on high [Luke 24 verse 49].
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The disciples did whatJesus told them to do.
They were in Jerusalem in Actschapter 2 when the Holy Spirit
was poured out upon them.
That’s when the true house of theLord, the spiritual temple of God, the
house Isaiah foretold, was established.
Do you see how all thesedetails fit together perfectly?
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The last question is why?
Why did God establish this housein Jerusalem in the last days in
act chapter 2 on Pentecost Day?
The answer is in Isaiahchapter 2 verse four.
The Old Testament prophets spoke inhighly figurative, very symbolic language.
For instance, in Isaiah chapter 13,Isaiah talks about the overthrow of the
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nation of Babylon in the Old Testament.
He says in Isaiah chapter 13 verse10 that the stars of heaven and
the constellations would fallto the ground when Babylon fell.
The stars in these Old Testamentprophecies often mean powerful
rulers and governments.
When great rulers and theirnations are conquered, it’s like
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stars falling to the ground.
This is a symbol.
It’s a figure.
This is like Daniel eight verse 10saying that a powerful ruler would
take the stars of heaven and throw themdown to the ground and stomp on them.
There’s no way that can be literal.
The same thing is true inIsaiah chapter 2 verse four.
When Isaiah says they will beattheir swords into plowshares and
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their spears into pruning hooks,he’s not talking about physical war.
He’s talking about spiritual conflict.
He’s talking about he’s talking aboutthe personal, the national and the
racial prejudice between the Jews andthe Gentiles in the first century.
The animosity between the Jews and theGentiles was so thick that it seemed
impossible to bring these people together.
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But the Lord brought them together.
Not all of them.
But many.
How did he do this?
In the church.
Jews and Gentiles in the first centurywere baptized, added to the Lords church,
and became brothers and sisters in Christ.
That’s how they foundpeace with each other.
Paul said in Ephesians 2 verse 14,“For He is our peace, who has made both
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one.” He’s talking about peace betweenboth the Jews and the Gentiles. That’s
what Isaiah chapter 2 verse four isabout, not international military peace
between Israel and other nations today.
So Isaiah chapter 2 is not aprophecy of a future kingdom.
It’s a prophecy of the kingdomthat is already here: the church.
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In Colossians chapter 1 verse13 Paul said that Christians are
in the kingdom of His dear Son.
In Hebrew 12 verse 28 the writer saysthat we are receiving that kingdom.
In Revelation chapter 1 verse nine,John said that he was in the kingdom.
The parts of the Biblefit together perfectly.
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When you add Daniel chapter 2,the harmony is even more amazing.
In that chapter, Daniel showed thatthere would be four great empires
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the Babylonians followed the Persians,
the Greeks, who followed next andthen the Romans, who were the ruling
power when Jesus established thevery kingdom we’re talking about.
Over 500 years before Jesus was born,Daniel said, “and in the days of these
kings“ – the very kingdoms we justmentioned, culminating in the Roman
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Empire – “the God of heaven shallset up a kingdom that shall stand
forever“ [Daniel chapter 2, verse 44].
Hebrews chapter 12 verse 28 saysthat kingdom cannot be moved.
Jesus said in Matthew 16 verse18 that the gates of Hades will
not prevail against the church.
So Isaiah chapter 2, Joel chapter 2, andDaniel chapter 2 all fit in amazing detail
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with the church being the kingdom, thehouse of the Lord, that was established in
Jerusalem in A.D. 33 in Acts chapter two.
As far as the Jewish people beingGod's chosen nation is concerned, Jesus
said that was about to come to an end.
He said in Matthew chapter 21 verse 43,“The kingdom of God shall be taken from
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you, and given to a nation bringing forththe fruits of it.” The Jewish people
lost their status as God’s chosen nation.
That privilege was given to anothernation—not just one particular
nation, but the Gentile people.
They are in the true kingdomtoday which is the church.
The kingdom or the reign of Godwas taken from national Israel.
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In Matthew chapter 21, chapter 22,chapter 23, and much of chapter
24, Jesus foretells God’s finalpunishment of the Jewish nation.
That happened in 70 A.D. when the Romanarmy destroyed the city of Jerusalem.
Why did this happen?
It was Old Testament prophecy.
Daniel foretold thiscalamity in Daniel 9:24-27.
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Jesus said the destruction of Jerusalemwas a fulfillment of Daniel’s words
in Matthew chapter 24 verse 15.
The temple was destroyed.
Thousands of Jews were slaughtered.
That put an end to the Jewishsystem as they had known it.
God never intended for thelaw of Moses to be permanent.
He never intended for political Israelto be the focal point of Christianity.
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The Old Testament prophecies ofthe kingdom have been fulfilled.
Jews today are just like anyone else.
They are just as subject tothe gospel as the rest of us.
They are not God’s chosen people anymore.
Galatians chapter 6 verse 15 says thatChristians are the Israel of God now.
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Israel is always in the news.
Whether a person is religious orhas no interest in religion, what
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happens in Israel seems to capturethe attention of people everywhere.
On the religious side, this isone of the most talked about and
controversial subjects in religion.
What does the Bible sayabout the nation of Israel?
Are Jews still God's chosen people?
Is Jesus coming again to establishthe nation of Israel as God’s
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kingdom on earth for a thousandyears with Jesus as the King?
Our format today is simple.
We’re going to ask some questions aboutIsrael and turn to the Bible for answers.
What did God promise to Abraham?
The passage we need toread is in Genesis 12.
In verses 1 through three the Bible says,“Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get
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thee out of thy country, and from thykindred, and from thy father's house,
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And I will make of thee a great nation, and I
will bless thee, and make thy name great;and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will
bless them that bless thee, and cursehim that curseth thee: and in thee shall
all families of the earth be blessed”[Genesis 12 verses 1 through three].
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This is one of the greatestpromises anywhere in the Bible.
Everything in the Word of God fromthis point forward is connected
to this passage and builds on it.
But let’s notice what God said to Abraham.
First of all, He toldhim about a certain land.
He told him to leave where he was,which was the land of Haran, and
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go to “a land that I will showthee.” That is very important.
This is where the greatland promise begins.
If you're going to understand why somany churches have their eyes fixed on
what is going on in this land today,you have to start in this passage.
If you're going to understand why so manypowerful nations have their attention
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in the Middle East you have to go backto the starting point in Genesis 12.
And if you're going to understandall the fighting between the Arabs
and the Israelis, you need to knowsomething about Genesis chapter 12.
God is making a promise to Abrahamthat has affected the course of human
history down to the present time.
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And the first thing that Godmentions in this promise is land.
The second thing God mentions, whichhappens to a the most important
part of the promise, is the greatnation that will come from it.
God told Abraham that he wouldmake of him, that is from or
out of Abraham, a great nation.
That means that Abraham's descendantswill grow into a great nation.
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Not just any nation, but a great nation.
A nation God wouldprovidentially bless and protect.
A nation God would preserveuntil he sent the Messiah.
When God said He would blesswhoever blessed Abraham and curse
whoever cursed Abraham, he wasn'tjust talking about Abraham.
He was talking about Abraham's descendantswho would be this great nation.
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At this time, Abraham doesn'teven have any children.
His wife, Sarah couldn'thave children at this point.
But even though Abraham didn't knowhow God would accomplish all this,
he trusted God and he obeyed Him.
That nation was the nation of Israel.
The third part of the promise thatconcerns you and me is what the
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earth be blessed.” We don't haveto wonder about what this means.
The Bible explains itin the New Testament.
Paul quotes these very words inGalatians 3 verse 8 and says that this
promise God made to Abraham includesthe Gentiles coming into the church!
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In Galatians 3 verse 8 he wrote, “Andthe scripture, foreseeing that God
would justify the heathen through faith,preached before the gospel unto Abraham,
saying, In thee shall all nations beblessed.” Paul called the words “In thee
shall all nations be blessed” Scripture!
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These words were actuallya promise of the gospel!
“And the scripture, foreseeing thatGod would justify the heathen” [the
Gentiles] “through faith, preachedbefore the gospel unto Abraham”!
How could Paul say the promisein Genesis 12 was “the gospel”?
Because this promise wasultimately fulfilled in the gospel.
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God blessed other nations in theOld Testament through the Israelite
nation, but the most importantaspect of those words is salvation
for nations other that Israel.
Paul is talking about how the Gentilesare saved in the book of Galatians.
And how are we as Gentiles saved?
The same way Jews aresaved—through the gospel!
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This is a great example of the Biblebeing its own best interpreter.
But that’s not all Paultells us in Galatians three.
Notice what he says in Galatians 3verses 26 through 29: “For ye are all the
children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
For as many of you as have beenbaptized into Christ have put on Christ.
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There is neither Jew nor Greek,there is neither bond nor free,
there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. (05:43):
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And if ye be Christ's, then areye Abraham's seed, and heirs
according to the promise.” Paulsaid in verse 16 that we are all
children of God by faith in Christ.
What does he mean by the word “all”?
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He means both Jews and Gentiles.
In verse 27 he tells us how we getinto Christ: we are baptized into Him.
Verse 28 says that we arespiritual equals in Christ.
Gentiles are just as muchthe children of God as Jews.
And did you notice the word “promise”in verse 29? He says that if we are
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in Christ, we belong to Christ, andis we are His, then we are “heirs
according to the promise.” What promise?
The promise in Genesis 12 verse 3.
Not the part of the promise aboutGod blessing whoever blesses Abraham
and curses anyone who curses him.
The promise in Galatians three verse29 about being “heirs according to
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the promise” refers to the wordsin Genesis 12 verse 3: “in thee
shall all families of the earth beblessed.” Paul said in Galatians 3
verse 8 that this was the gospel!
It was fulfilled in theGentiles who became God’s
children by obeying the gospel!
These are very importantverses to remember.
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Too many people either don'tknow about them or skip past
them when they read the Bible.
Most people agree that the bestinterpreter of the Bible is the Bible.
Since Paul quotes from Genesis 12 versethree in the book of Galatians chapter
3 and says it refers to the gospel andteaches us that Christians, whether
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they are Jews or gentiles, inherit theblessing contained in the last words
of that famous promise to Abraham,doesn’t it make sense to listen to God's
interpretation of Genesis 12 insteadof listening to all kinds of modern
day interpretations of that passage?
But there's another verse in Genesischapter 12 that explains the part
of the promise about the land.
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In Genesis chapter 12 verses four andfive, Abraham did what God told him to do.
He left where he was, and hewent to the place God showed him.
That place was the land of Canaan.
The Bible then says in verse 7 (08:09):
“And the Lord appeared unto Abram, and
said, Unto thy seed will I give thisland.” This verse makes it clear that
God would give the land of Canaan toAbraham’s descendants. Verse 5 says
Abraham came to the land of Canaan,and in very seven God said “I will
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give this land” to your seed—theland he was in, the land of Canaan.
That part is clear.
But that brings us to another question.
When God said He would give the landof Canaan to Abraham’s descendants,
was that promise irrevocable?
Was the land promise conditional orwas it an unconditional promise that no
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matter what happened, they would alwayshave a God-given right to that land?
The verse we need to lookat is in the next chapter.
In Genesis chapter 13 verses 14 through 17we read, ““And the LORD said unto Abram,
after that Lot was separated from him,Lift up now thine eyes, and look from
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the place where thou art northward, andsouthward, and eastward, and westward:
For all the land which thou seest, to theewill I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
And I will make thy seed as the dustof the earth: so that if a man can
number the dust of the earth, thenshall thy seed also be numbered.
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Arise, walk through the land in thelength of it and in the breadth of
it; for I will give it unto thee.” Godrepeated what He said to Abraham before.
He said He would give thisland to Abraham’s descendants.
But this time he uses a wordwe need to look at carefully.
God said I will give this land to you andyour descendants “forever.” Does this mean
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that the Jewish people will always havea God-given right to the land of Canaan?
Many people say yes.
But let’s look at some other verseswhere that same Hebrew word is used.
It’s the Hebrew word olam.
In Deuteronomy chapter 15 verse 17, Godsaid if you have a bondservant that wants
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to stay with his master, then take anaul and thrust it through his ear and
“he shall be thy servant forever.” Doesthat mean that man would be a bondservant
to his master even after they die?
Of course not.
It means as long as he lives.
That’s a far cry from thousands of years.
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In First Samuel 1 verse 22, Hannah saidshe would send her son Samuel to the
tabernacle to give him to the Lord.
She said that he would stay there“forever.” At the very least
Samuel isn’t there now. He’s beendead over three thousand years.
She just meant that Samuelwould serve God all of his life.
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In Exodus 31 verse 17, God said thatthe Sabbath was “a sign between me
and the children of Israel forever.”That cannot mean without an end.
We know that because in Colossianschapter two verse 14 Paul said
that the law that contained theSabbath was nailed to the cross.
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Then in verses 16 and 17 of Colossians2 he said that the sabbath and the
other ceremonies in the law of Moseswere shadows of the New Testament
and they are not required anymore.
So when God said in Exodus 31 verse17 that the Sabbath was a sign
forever, he meant as long as the lawof Moses was in effect for the Jews.
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There are many other versesin the Old Testament where the
word “forever” is used to meanage-long, not permanent or eternal.
Yes, it can mean eternal, butthat depends on how it is used.
The context determines that.
It’s not that hard if you think about it.
When a man says he’s building a garage sostrong that it will stand “forever,” we
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don’t think he means forever literally.
When Daniel told king Nebuchadnezzar,“O king, live forever,” he
wasn’t saying Nebuchadnezzarwould live forever literally.
But there is another aspect of thisquestion that we need to look at.
The question is, “Was the landpromise to the descendants of
Abraham irrevocable? Was that promiseconditional or unconditional?” The
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fact is, that promise was conditional.
God never said the Jews would keepthe land regardless of how they acted.
In fact, He said just the opposite.
He told them that if they turnedaway from the law of the Lord,
they would lose that land.
And that’s exactly what happened.
Let’s look at what God toldthem in Deuteronomy chapter 28.
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In verse one of Deuteronomy 28 God said,“And it shall come to pass, if thou
shalt hearken diligently unto the voiceof the LORD thy God, to observe and to
do all his commandments which I commandthee this day, that the LORD thy God
will set thee on high above all nationsof the earth: And all these blessings
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shall come on thee, and overtake thee,if thou shalt hearken unto the voice
of the LORD thy God.” Then Moses saidthey would be blessed with prosperity
and peace and safety from your enemiesand that God will “bless thee in the
land which the LORD thy God giveththee” [Deuteronomy chapter 28 verse 8].
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They could keep the land andbe blessed IF they obeyed God.
But then in verses 15 all the waythrough the rest of the chapter
down to verse 68, he told them whatwould happen if they disobeyed God.
In verse 15 he said, “But it shall cometo pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the
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voice of the Lord thy God, to observe todo all his commandments and his statutes
which I command thee this day; that allthese curses shall come upon thee, and
overtake thee.” What he talks about inthe verses that follow should have scared
the Jews so badly that they would havenever even thought about leaving God.
He warned that they would sufferdrought, poverty, disease, and war so
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horrifying that women would eat theirown children because they were starving.
And notice what God told themabout the land He gave them.
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land whither thou goest to possess it.
The Lord shall scatter thee among allpeople, from the one end off the earth
even unto the other.” That’s the sameland He promised to Abraham’s descendants
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“forever.” But here He says thatpromise about the land was conditional.
And the fact is, we know that the Jews didthe very thing God told them not to do.
They left God and served other gods.
And they lost the land of promisebecause of their rebellion.
That happened generations later.
The Assyrians came and took thenorthern tribes of Israel off their
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land in 721 B.C. They lost controlof their land that God gave them.
In 605 B.C. the southern kingdom of Judahlost the part of the land God gave them
when the Babylonians took control anddeported thousands of Jews to Babylon.
These are verses you don’thear much about these days.
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You hear people saying, “Israelhas a right to that land because
God gave it to them.” But you don’thear them talk about these passages
that say they lost their right tothe land just like God warned them!
The facts are clear about theland promise God made to Abraham.
He made the promise.
He did what he promised.
There was not one thing God promisedthat He failed do [Joshua 23 13 through
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16 and Joshua 21 43 through 45].
And, the Jewish people forfeitedtheir right to the land because
of their sins, just as God hadwarned in Deuteronomy chapter 28.
But you may be thinking, “What aboutthe promise in Deuteronomy chapter
30? God said He would bring His peopleback to the promised land after their
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captivity.” God did promise that Hewould bring them back from the land
of their captivity when they repented.
Deuteronomy chapter 30 says, “theLord your God will bring you back
from captivity, and have compassionon you, and gather you again from
all the nations where the Lord yourGod has scattered you…Then the Lord
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your God will bring you to the landwhich your fathers possessed, and you
shall possess it” [verses 3 and 5].
The book of Nehemiah tells usabout the Jews who returned
to Jerusalem from Babylon.
And in Nehemiah chapter 1 verses eightthrough 10, Nehemiah says that return was
the fulfillment of Deuteronomy chapter 30.
Think about it.
The Bible explicitly says in Nehemiahchapter one verses eight through 10
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that the promise of the Jews returninghome was fulfilled in Nehemiah‘s day.
“Remember, I pray, the word that Youcommanded Your servant Moses, saying,
'If you are unfaithful, I will scatteryou among the nations; but if you return
to Me, and keep My commandments and dothem, though some of you were cast out
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to the farthest part of the heavens, yetI will gather them from there, and bring
them to the place which I have chosen asa dwelling for My name.’ Now these are
Your servants and Your people, whom Youhave redeemed by Your great power, and by
Your strong hand.” This passage says thatDeuteronomy 30 has already been fulfilled!
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That was over 400 years before Jesus.
But even then, there was a big differencebetween the Jewish people in the
promised land before they went intocaptivity and after they came back to
the promised land after the captivity.
When the Jews in Babylon returnedto Jerusalem in the days of Ezra
and Nehemiah, they were not thekind of kingdom they were before.
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They were not an independent nation.
They were under the rule of aforeign nation – Persia, and after
the Persians, they were under theauthority of the Greek Empire.
Then, after the Greeks, they wereunder the power of the Roman Empire.
Even though God restored them totheir land, He didn’t restore their
power and their status as a kingdomwith their king ruling on a throne
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like He did before their fall.
These facts are straight from the Bible.
They don’t add drama to internationalpolitics surrounding Israel.
They don’t add excitement to thelatest news about the Middle East.
They don’t keep people on theedge of their seats guessing
about the end of time.
But this is the truth about Israel.
You may be thinking, “Butwhat about prophecies in the
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Old Testament of the kingdom?
Are you saying those prophecies havealready been fulfilled?” Let’s take
a look at some of those prophecies.
In Isaiah chapter 2 verses onethrough four, the prophet wrote,
“The word that Isaiah the son of Amozsaw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
Now it shall come to pass in the latterdays that the mountain of the Lord's house
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shall be established on the top of themountains, and shall be exalted above the
hills; and all nations shall flow to it.
Many people shall come and say, "Come,and let us go up to the mountain of
the Lord, to the house of the God ofJacob; He will teach us His ways, and
we shall walk in His paths." For outof Zion shall go forth the law, and
the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
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He shall judge between the nations,and rebuke many people; They shall
beat their swords into plowshares, andtheir spears into pruning hooks; Nation
shall not lift up sword against nation,neither shall they learn war anymore.”
Let’s ask some very simplequestions about this passage: When?
What?
Who?
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Where?
How?
And why?
The first thing he mentionsis the time factor.
He said this would takeplace in the last days.
If you ask 100 people today whatthe last days in the Bible are,
probably 99 out of a hundred willsay it refers to the last few months
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or maybe years before Jesus comes.
But if we just read the Bible, we’ll seethe Bible interpreting what this means.
In Acts chapter 2, Peter saidhe and the people of his day
were living in the last days.
That’s 2,000 years ago.
In Acts chapter 2 verses 16 and 17 hesaid: “But this is what was spoken by
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'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, that I
will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh.”
That’s a quotation from thebook of Joel in chapter 2.
Joel prophesied of the outpouringof the Holy Spirit to begin the new
dispensation that ushered in the church.
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Peter said these words about what washappening on Pentecost Day: “this is that
which was spoken by the prophet Joel.“How could the Bible be any plainer?
But that’s not all.
In Hebrews chapter 1 verse two, thewriter says God has spoken to us “in these
last days by his Son.” “These last days”mean the days he was living in, not the
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time we’re living in 2,000 years later!
Peter said in First Peter chapter 1 verse20 that Jesus was “manifest in these
last times for you.” He calls his day andage the “last times.” How could that be?
The world didn’t come toan end in Peter‘s day.
But he’s not talking aboutthe end of the world.
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That’s the problem.
That’s the misunderstanding.
These verses clearly show that peopleliving in the first century 2,000
years ago were in the last days.
The last days of what?
Not the last days of the world itself.
This means the last days of the Jewishnation that God promised to Abraham.
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It’s coming to an end.
The second question about Isaiah chapter2 verses one through four is what?
What is he talking about?
The answer is the house of the Lord.
Here again many people assume thathe’s talking about the literal
physical temple in Jerusalem.
And although Isaiah does prophesyabout the future of national Israel,
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the main focus of the propheciesin Isaiah is the Messiah and his
kingdom, that is, Jesus and his church.
Notice what the New Testamentsays about the house of the Lord.
In First Timothy chapter 3, verse15, Paul said that the house of God
is the church of the living God.
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In Second Corinthians chapter 6,verse 16, Paul said “for you are the
temple of the living God.” In FirstPeter chapter 2 verse 5, Peter said
that Christians are living stoneswho compose a spiritual house.
The book of Hebrew shows that the OldTestament temple, which was the house of
the Lord, was a foreshadow of the church.
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It was never intended to be permanent.
So the church being the house of the Lordfits perfectly with what Isaiah said.
Number three.
Who are the people whocome into this house?
Not just the Jewish people.
Isaiah said that allnations will flow into it.
Gentiles in Jesus’ day came tothe temple to pray and to learn,
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and they could convert to Judaism,but as a whole they could never
fully participate in the worship.
But in the house of the Lord, whichis the church, God’s spiritual
building, Gentiles are equal to Jews.
Jesus died for allmen – Jews and Gentiles.
He told His apostles to make disciplesof “all nations” [Matthew chapter
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28 verse 19]. Peter said that Godwas not a partial God, but in “every
nation” he who fears Him and worksrighteousness is accepted with him
[Acts chapter 10 verses 34 and 35].
So in the third point ofIsaiah’s prophecy, we find that
the New Testament correspondsperfectly to what Isaiah wrote.
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how?
This finds the same agreementin the New Testament.
Again, in the great commission ofMatthew chapter 28 versus 18 through 20,
Jesus said to go everywhere and teach.
Isaiah said that people willgo to the house of the Lord to
be taught the ways of the Lord.
The church is God‘s teaching institution.
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When you read the book ofActs, you find the disciples
teaching everywhere at all times.
So the fourth point of harmony andagreement between the Old Testament
prophecy and the New Testamentfulfillment is how people in the
house of the Lord learn God‘s will.
Number five.
Where?
Again the Bible is very specific.
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The starting point is not in Rome.
It is not at Antioch.
It is in Jerusalem.
Isaiah said that the law of theLord would go forth from Jerusalem.
Just before Jesus ascended to heaven,He told His disciples to wait in
the city of Jerusalem for powerfrom on high [Luke 24 verse 49].
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The disciples did whatJesus told them to do.
They were in Jerusalem in Actschapter 2 when the Holy Spirit
was poured out upon them.
That’s when the true house of theLord, the spiritual temple of God, the
house Isaiah foretold, was established.
Do you see how all thesedetails fit together perfectly?
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The last question is why?
Why did God establish this housein Jerusalem in the last days in
act chapter 2 on Pentecost Day?
The answer is in Isaiahchapter 2 verse four.
The Old Testament prophets spoke inhighly figurative, very symbolic language.
For instance, in Isaiah chapter 13,Isaiah talks about the overthrow of the
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nation of Babylon in the Old Testament.
He says in Isaiah chapter 13 verse10 that the stars of heaven and
the constellations would fallto the ground when Babylon fell.
The stars in these Old Testamentprophecies often mean powerful
rulers and governments.
When great rulers and theirnations are conquered, it’s like
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stars falling to the ground.
This is a symbol.
It’s a figure.
This is like Daniel eight verse 10saying that a powerful ruler would
take the stars of heaven and throw themdown to the ground and stomp on them.
There’s no way that can be literal.
The same thing is true inIsaiah chapter 2 verse four.
When Isaiah says they will beattheir swords into plowshares and
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their spears into pruning hooks,he’s not talking about physical war.
He’s talking about spiritual conflict.
He’s talking about he’s talking aboutthe personal, the national and the
racial prejudice between the Jews andthe Gentiles in the first century.
The animosity between the Jews and theGentiles was so thick that it seemed
impossible to bring these people together.
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But the Lord brought them together.
Not all of them.
But many.
How did he do this?
In the church.
Jews and Gentiles in the first centurywere baptized, added to the Lords church,
and became brothers and sisters in Christ.
That’s how they foundpeace with each other.
Paul said in Ephesians 2 verse 14,“For He is our peace, who has made both
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one.” He’s talking about peace betweenboth the Jews and the Gentiles. That’s
what Isaiah chapter 2 verse four isabout, not international military peace
between Israel and other nations today.
So Isaiah chapter 2 is not aprophecy of a future kingdom.
It’s a prophecy of the kingdomthat is already here: the church.
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In Colossians chapter 1 verse13 Paul said that Christians are
in the kingdom of His dear Son.
In Hebrew 12 verse 28 the writer saysthat we are receiving that kingdom.
In Revelation chapter 1 verse nine,John said that he was in the kingdom.
The parts of the Biblefit together perfectly.
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When you add Daniel chapter 2,the harmony is even more amazing.
In that chapter, Daniel showed thatthere would be four great empires
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the Babylonians followed the Persians,
the Greeks, who followed next andthen the Romans, who were the ruling
power when Jesus established thevery kingdom we’re talking about.
Over 500 years before Jesus was born,Daniel said, “and in the days of these
kings“ – the very kingdoms we justmentioned, culminating in the Roman
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Empire – “the God of heaven shallset up a kingdom that shall stand
forever“ [Daniel chapter 2, verse 44].
Hebrews chapter 12 verse 28 saysthat kingdom cannot be moved.
Jesus said in Matthew 16 verse18 that the gates of Hades will
not prevail against the church.
So Isaiah chapter 2, Joel chapter 2, andDaniel chapter 2 all fit in amazing detail
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with the church being the kingdom, thehouse of the Lord, that was established in
Jerusalem in A.D. 33 in Acts chapter two.
As far as the Jewish people beingGod's chosen nation is concerned, Jesus
said that was about to come to an end.
He said in Matthew chapter 21 verse 43,“The kingdom of God shall be taken from
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you, and given to a nation bringing forththe fruits of it.” The Jewish people
lost their status as God’s chosen nation.
That privilege was given to anothernation—not just one particular
nation, but the Gentile people.
They are in the true kingdomtoday which is the church.
The kingdom or the reign of Godwas taken from national Israel.
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In Matthew chapter 21, chapter 22,chapter 23, and much of chapter
24, Jesus foretells God’s finalpunishment of the Jewish nation.
That happened in 70 A.D. when the Romanarmy destroyed the city of Jerusalem.
Why did this happen?
It was Old Testament prophecy.
Daniel foretold thiscalamity in Daniel 9:24-27.
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Jesus said the destruction of Jerusalemwas a fulfillment of Daniel’s words
in Matthew chapter 24 verse 15.
The temple was destroyed.
Thousands of Jews were slaughtered.
That put an end to the Jewishsystem as they had known it.
God never intended for thelaw of Moses to be permanent.
He never intended for political Israelto be the focal point of Christianity.
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The Old Testament prophecies ofthe kingdom have been fulfilled.
Jews today are just like anyone else.
They are just as subject tothe gospel as the rest of us.
They are not God’s chosen people anymore.
Galatians chapter 6 verse 15 says thatChristians are the Israel of God now.
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