April 22, 2025 • 58 mins
Join Chris and Allie as they rewatch this episode of the TLC hit train wreck reality TV show, Sister Wives. ✨
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Original show episode description: Kody and his teenage daughters throw a birthday party for his new fiancee, Robyn. Meanwhile, first wife Meri struggles with feelings of jealousy as the whole Brown clan moves Robyn and her anxious kids closer to the family home.
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Sister Wives is a TLC docuseries starring Kody Brown, Meri Brown, Christine Brown, Janelle Brown, Robyn Brown, and their family.
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What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You shut it off.
Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim.
Sweetie. Just look at the mountain.
That's what you saw that day. Just the knife in the kidneys
over all these years and the sacrifices that I made to love
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you. All right.
Welcome back everybody. Hello.
Hello. Hi, Allie, how are you?
Good. How are you?
I'm good we just rewatched season 1, episode 3 of Sister
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Wives. The episode is called Wives on
the Move, and so broadly we are moving Robyn from Saint George
to Lehi UT, correct? Do you have anything right off
the bat that you wanted to startwith?
Or do you think we jump right into like the girls talking
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about planning this move for Robyn to move to where the
Browns live? Yeah, I think one of the things
I first wrote down is that they're officially engaged,
right? Kody and Robyn are officially
engaged. And so that's why the move can
finally take place. And that was really kind of it.
There was just excitement that they got to this next step,
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right, that OK, we can proceed. Things are happening now.
And that was pretty much it. And then, yeah, they started.
Kody had told his daughters to plan Robyn's birthday party.
Right, right. Which is, I didn't know if it
was weird to ask the daughters to plan a party because, you
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know, there's like gendered activities, blah, blah, blah.
I don't know. What did you think about that?
You know, I didn't have, like, strong feelings one way or
another. I guess it was kind of like, if
that's his way of trying to havethem be involved in things that
sweet. There is also a tinge of then he
doesn't have to do it himself, right?
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Yeah. So, so it depends on his
intentions, I suppose, with withmaking that choice.
But I thought they seem to be enjoying doing it anyway.
Like, like, they seem like they thought they thought that was
fun and what they went into quite a lengthy conversation
about Robyn's age. Yes.
(02:44):
That was pretty funny. They didn't didn't one of them
said she could be like their sister or.
Something yeah. So of the kids we have Mckelty,
Maddie, Aspen and Leon. And I guess this is the first
time we're saying Leon on the show, but at the time Leons name
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is Mariah and things have changed what you will get into
in the show. But we are going to refer to
Leon as Leon. And there was a comment about
how she was only 30 and Leon said she could be my sister,
right? Which I also thought was a
little, I want to say a little juvenile in the sense that, you
know, in the same way that they are excited, I think about
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hosting the party, it's like theteenage thing, like they're
being asked to participate. They're just talking some smack
and talking about planning this birthday party for Robyn.
Mckelty said something that stuck out to me, which was a
comment that Robyn made OK. Robyn's smelt Kody's jacket
while Mckelty was wearing it andsaid something about like, oh, I
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can smell your father on this jacket or I miss your father.
I miss your father. Yes.
Yeah. I miss your dad.
And that, you know, it just it obviously stuck Mckelty as
something to bring up. She said it was weird.
Yeah, she's like, that was weird.
To be fair, no, we haven't really been introduced to the
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kids that much yet. But Mckelty is weird herself.
So it's going to be interesting to see how her how we feel about
her opinions as things go on. But another one of the things
that the girls, one of them said, Maddie said, was talking
about polygamy. And, you know, kind of the
monogamist versus polygamist wasthis thing that they kept
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cutting to her talking about. And when she she said something
about like how she would RIP thehair out of a woman's head if
they were with her man. And I thought it was funny
because it's like, duh. Like that's how most people I
think would feel. Right.
Most people are not accustomed to sharing their spouse and
being OK with that. Maybe a little more nowadays
than you know before, but I mean.
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And for spiritual reasons. Well, I don't know that I would
call them all that, but debatable.
So yeah, they, they did talk a lot about that as as kids.
I thought that was kind of interesting that they analyzed
their lifestyle in that manner. Yeah.
And yeah, it was interesting. It was for sure.
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Not a standard conversation for,I guess a high schooler.
Let's say they're maybe in high school.
I don't even, I don't even know that they're old enough to be in
high school. Frankly, I think they they think
they are probably young high school.
But to be talking about what your future relationship, your
marriage looks like. I think most people in the
monogamous world have views of what marriage is and it's just
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kind of assumed. I don't think many people are
talking about it but or asked about it.
I don't know. Middle schoolers today, like,
are all bisexual because they'rejust like, hey, we'll give
anything a shot. We don't really know yet.
You know, like, they just don't identify.
Yeah. You.
Know and that's good. That is good, but definitely
different from polygamist children in, you know, 15 years.
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2010 yes, exactly. Not comparable at all.
Oh my gosh. But it is so true.
Like when I was in high school, if you weren't at least bisexual
people were like, OK, you're lame.
At one point we cut to Kody and the wives on the couch and Robyn
has joined them. So now we're in episode 3 and
Robyn is sitting on the couch with them.
Christine divulges something about the engagement that was
(06:29):
interesting that she was upset that hearing the story of Kody
proposing and then kissing Robyn, she thought, you know, I
wouldn't, I would never kiss a married man.
So she didn't kiss until they were at the altar.
Right. Yeah, clearly things have
changed. You know, she was mad.
Like she was angry that that hadhappened.
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That was not OK with her. Yeah, not only angry, but then
clearly like upset in other waystoo, because she was like
crying. Like she was crying talking
about. It well and then Saab and Robyn
started crying because she hurt Christine and it broke her heart
and she was really upset about it.
So Robyn also was upset. I think it was in that same sit
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down that Christine she just goes it's it's just all been way
too much. It's just been way too much, but
she's great like right. It was like, this has been a
lot. The transition has not been
pleasant. Nobody's in a great place right
now. But Robyn.
Robyn is great, right? Like.
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Yeah, Christine definitely makesthese statements of this is a
really big negative thing, but here's a positive thing, so it's
fine. And it's like, Oh my gosh, Like
at one point Christine literallysays that Kody's visits to Robyn
have, quote, torn them apart, UNquote.
Like torn you apart and then a second later.
But we're happy that she's moving here.
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Like what? It really what?
Yes, it's almost each statement is counterintuitive from her
when she's describing how this all is going.
It's, it's very bizarre. Meri also chimes in on the it's
been too much and all of that and, and is basically like, when
do I get attention again? Like she was crying as well.
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You know, she was like, I, I just, we've been married 20
years and I don't get the attention I used to.
And I is that going to come back?
And like she was upset. So, and this is all pretty early
on, like this is just starting, you know, so very, very
interesting. Oh they did have the birthday
party for Robyn, right? Meri gave Robyn a friendship
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bracelet. OK so that was adorable.
My favorite. They didn't show much of the
party. It was like 1.5 minutes maybe?
But then the part that they showed was literally Robyn
arriving to her own party, and everybody's just like, doing
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their own thing. They're playing games, they're
eating, they're whatever. Robyn walks in and Christine
just yells across the room like welcome and waves and a lot of
people aren't reacting to the fact that she's there and it's
her birthday party. That is pretty strange.
It's interesting they showed so little of it, so I hope it got
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better after the entrance, but bizarre, Bizarre.
I definitely felt like we were only seeing sidelines.
Like I was like, where's the party?
Like we're just seeing these things that I don't know.
There was definitely not much ofthe like, here's the birthday
party. That would be standard birthday
party things. It yeah, it was very little.
But back to when they were all sitting on the couch and
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Christine was talking about how it's all been so hard and all of
this, and Meri's crying because she doesn't get attention.
They cut to Kody after those whohad been kind of saying some of
this stuff. And he just has this extreme
look of confusion on his face, like he just simply cannot
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believe what he's hearing. And I'm like, oh, my God, yeah,
I definitely don't put those pieces together.
That's OK. But.
Yeah, I think he, if I remember correctly, he does have like a
feigning mystery or like a I'm trying to figure out what these
people are saying. Literally.
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And it's like some of it is so obvious and it's literally just
right there. But I think as the show goes on,
we will, we, I, I know we will see many, many examples of Kody
twisting situations into these fucked up ways that he explains
them, oftentimes, which are against rational thinking and
are illogical. And so I feel like when he's
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scrunching his face and he's whatever, he's trying to figure
out how he's going to tell his story, what he's going to do,
say next to like make it all OK or smooth out the edges.
You know, he's, he's got to figure out a way to do this with
his wives, which he's just curling his brow and struggling.
How am I going to spin this and gaslight them?
You know, like that's he's, he'sworking out his gaslighting
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plan. Yeah, in real time and we're
seeing it. I'm gonna pay attention to how
many times that happened that that look of how can I do this
today? Yeah, I feel like it happens
regularly. Another thing about Meri when in
her moment and she's talking about what's going on with her
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and how she says that sometimes she'd like to leave and that the
reason she doesn't is because one, she made a commitment and
her commitment levels and then two having Leon and being part
of the family. And so it must have been
interesting to be sitting there and hearing that being like,
right, It's not about, I mean, the commitment.
Yes, of course, I'm assuming every marriage is like this at
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some point where you're like, I'm just here because the
commitment is what I made. And I'm I'm sure that happens in
like every marriage. But it just stuck out to me that
she said it. She's they're sometimes Meri
just says these things are like you are in front of your spouses
or your sister wives, excuse me,And you're just kind of making
it seem like you don't want to be there with them.
You're just committed and you have a kid with them.
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Spouses. Yes.
No, not spouses. They don't do the weird stuff.
Chris, they don't get weird. So yeah, I don't know.
I, I guess I just kind of took it that they were all being
really honest and it, it didn't seem, it seemed honest and
genuine. It didn't seem like manipulative
or attention seeking in that moment.
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I guess sometimes she does seem attention seeking right?
Like as we get, as we get more forward.
But in this instance she just seemed really genuine.
And I think it's just the huge shake up for their whole family
that like, this is a lot. We're all having breakdowns.
Today is my turn, you know. And what a time to be
introducing a camera crew and filming production, the whole 9
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yards while this is going on. It must have if we stop and
think. Another thing is that these are
fundamentalist Mormon, the NAU, the AUN, They're in a cult.
Like they are straight up in a cult.
So we are joining this family that is in a cult, and I feel
like because it's TV and it's reality TV, it's in this palette
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and this framework that we can digest easily.
But it's also still like the people being filmed are in a
cult, straight up. You know, it's funny you say
that because I just had a thought that maybe they did a
good job of at least at the beginning.
I don't, I don't remember if it gets more prominent or not, but
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it'll be interesting to see. Like they didn't push the
religion stuff too much. It is dropped in here and there,
but I'm not thinking back to thefact that they're in a cult
because today, right now, it doesn't look like they're in a
cult. You know, on the show as we're
watching it. So interesting, right, 'cause
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surely that yes, they are. I agree with you 100%.
Not not questioning that fact atall, but it doesn't feel too.
Yeah, it is interesting because watching the show, I agree
completely. I don't feel like I'm watching
people under a microscope because they're in a cult.
It just doesn't they they are not pushing that.
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And you know, that's probably a good introduction for
television, but it's something to be mindful of.
These people are like, we homeschool our kids and we want
them to have multiple wives. And we think that the more wives
you have, the better you'll be in the Celestial Kingdom.
Like, right. Celestial Kingdom is a phrase
that I think we're going to usher several times.
Celestial Kingdom. I think we should not forget the
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fact that they are in a cult that does need to be in our
brain throughout this entire process.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So jumping back into the
episode, there's a point where Christine's in the car.
I don't recall where she's goingor what she's doing, but I just
noted to myself that the show atthis point, visually and the way
it's edited and the style of it is just so real in compared to
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other reality shows. Which is ironic that I'm saying
this right after talking about how we forget they're in a cult.
But the aesthetics are there. Like she the cameras a little
shaky. She doesn't look like she's ever
seen a makeup artist in her life.
She's in a car, pregnant, driving to wherever she's going,
talking about whatever, and the houses look dumpy that no one
gives a shit about and they livein somewhere ever, blah blah
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blah. There's nothing like Real
Housewives about it. There's nothing what they do to
other reality shows to give themsome judge that just is not
apparent anywhere, which I like.But every once in a while I
notice it 'cause I feel like it feels like I'm back home when I
was a kid and just driving down the street or something.
It's crazy. Yeah, I mean, it's real, you
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know, It's definitely just real right now.
Yeah, like these people are justbeing filmed doing their thing.
And yeah, you don't think that Christine had her hair and
makeup done before this episode?I I think she tried real hard.
I think she tried really hard and she was actually having a
pretty day. She didn't.
It wasn't, you're right, it wasn't even a bad day for.
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Her So here I. Am tearing her apart.
At one point it was interesting with Christine because her and
Kody were talking and I guess she at one point hadn't
necessarily wanted more kids. They she thought she might have
been done at 5:00. Right, because she had a
miscarriage a year beforehand. Oh, yes, yes, exactly.
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Yeah. And and she wasn't sure how her
body was going to handle anotherpregnancy and she was very
concerned about. Yeah, she she volunteered some
detail about like she hemorrhaged and then passed out.
So it doesn't sound like a passive or a simple experience.
And she also talks about how she's 37, which I was like OK
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well I'm older than 37 but I'm also not trying to grow another
person inside of me and push it out my Hoo ha.
Right. I mean, for women at that age,
it especially, it gets more complicated, right?
And then there was some little tidbit about how Kody was super
happy that it was a girl, because this meant they could
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try for a boy afterward. And I was like, try for a boy.
What, you gross? Like, just leave these women
alone? I don't.
Know yeah, but that whole thing led me to think about what
according to the AUB, their organization that they belong to
their religion. Excuse me, the cult that they
are part of, the more children you had, the better placement
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you have in the Celestial Kingdom.
So from a from a woman's perspective, entering into
plural marriage, it's kind of indoctrinated in them that like
sex is for procreation because the more children you have on
earth, the better you'll be in heaven.
And it's even a way for women tohook men in if they're of the
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more manipulative party is if they can volunteer that they can
have more children for a man. I don't want to say that's has
anything to do with the pedophilia that's involved in
some of these organizations, butdefinitely if you're younger,
it's looked fondly upon because you can procreate and women are
supposed to have sex for having babies.
And it makes me wonder if any ofthese women have ever had an
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orgasm because of Kody Brown. Helpful.
The obvious answer to that question is no.
Well, I'm wondering, I kind of feel like maybe Janelle.
Maybe Janelle. You know what?
She Yeah, you're right. Maybe Janelle?
I think Janelle probably is OK with saying what she wants.
Yes and so he has to work for itbecause she will either give up
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or she will stop it. She will do something that is
not favorable to his manhood unless he does what needs to
happen I think. But Meri, Christine, I
definitely don't think Christineever got an orgasm from him.
That's why she is all over her new husband so much is because
she finally did and she was likeI've been missing this all these
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years and that's why she's so horny around him all the time
now. Yes.
Literally, I mean, to have another person give you an
orgasm for the first time at, I don't know if this point she's
50 or what, however old she is. I mean, that's, yeah, maybe
you're going to act a little crazy after that.
I don't know, but I definitely don't think Meri and Christine
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are getting off because of Kody.I think Meri and Christine have
never had an orgasm from Kody and I think that Janelle makes
him make it happen like he has to do it.
Yeah, I agree. I agree for sure.
Oh God, we're just getting started.
Just getting started, Season 1, Episode 3.
You guys are going to learn so much from us.
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We are so full of wisdom and insight.
So then moving forward in the episode, we transition to the
point where Kody and the kids and Meri and Christine are going
to help Robyn move. They haven't really pointed out
who all's going yet or anything like that, but they're talking
to Robyn about the move. She's doing a spotlight moment.
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Oh yes, Robyn's getting her spotlight.
And she does say that she grew up in polygamy.
So for her, this television showis also like a coming out.
Besides joining the family and doing whatever she referenced
people from the past, like people from high school and
things that would just be learning that she's been a part
of polygamy this whole time because of her parents and that
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her first husband, they were in polygamy, polygamy, but they
never got another wife. Once again, no details about the
ex-husband, only implications and direction that there's bad
things. Things were not good.
No details, right? You know, what did he do?
We'll never know. And I also thought that Robyn
does seem to have a genuine affection for the kids,
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particularly when she's talking about Maddie.
She just did seem to like feel kind of happy to be around the
kids, but do you think she was just putting that on?
Well, she was sobbing. She.
She was sobbing. I don't know how much she loved
Maddie. I don't know if that was the
second time she cried this episode or the third, but yeah,
she's the. Second time OK #3 is coming.
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OK, sobbing. Yes, so she was sobbing.
Yes, because she loved Maddie somuch.
I do think she has a genuine affection for them.
I don't think that's false in any fashion.
I would agree with that, Yeah, yeah.
So they have a cutaway while someone's speaking and it cuts
to these framed photos that Robyn has and it was a broken
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frame. Like someone, I don't know if
Dayton, one of the kids was apologizing about breaking this
picture frame and it was Kody with her and the kids and Kody
with the kids, like they were family photos.
And I thought that was interesting because like, no, no
shade on the Pinterest moms of the world, But like, you know,
jumping into family photos and making it all whatever.
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OK, fine. I don't know that I would have
that out right now. I don't know that I would push
for that before you're married, particularly given that you're
going into this very conservative family that's in a
cult. Why would you have photos with
the husband, not your husband, someone else's husband, in your
house with your kids? I thought that was a little
weird. Did sit right with me.
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So I have two thoughts just withyou saying that number one
initially was that timing seems off, timing seems off.
But actually really truly what it is, is that they're going on
ATV show and they had all these photos taken for this TV show.
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And so they have print, she got printed copies of the photos for
the TV show, and that's why they're there.
You know what? I bet that.
Is true. I feel like it's.
Pretty possible. I suspect that that's true, that
production had them take photos and then, of course, she just
asked for copies. Yes.
That's so much less sinister than I was thinking.
I thought that she was moving inon him unnecessarily.
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But I do. I like that we can have
conspiracies and then think rationally and be like, yeah,
OK, never mind. But you know.
Well, that came out of nowhere, so I, you know, it could, we
could have gone the other way. That could have been fine too.
Yeah, yeah. As I said before, like Meri and
Christine went to help with the move.
I feel like we're missing a little detail on how much
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Christine and Robyn have interacted at this point,
because the last time we talked about it, it was a little like,
oh, I just met her and like, she's engaged to my husband.
And it was kind of like, unclear.
And I don't think I got any moreclarity from this episode.
It's, I feel like Christine saidsomething about a time of
something, but it's not like shesaid like, oh, Robyn is here all
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the time, like we hang out all the time, or like I've gotten to
know her well or there's no statements like that from
Christine. I agree.
I don't think she's really indicated how much she knows her
or anything yet. Like she hasn't really spoken
much about her actual feelings about Robyn, right?
She's spoken about her feelings about Kody and Robyn, but not,
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you know, So yeah, I think there's more to come for sure.
Yeah, When it comes to Robyn, it's like all she said is those
statements we were talking aboutbefore of like, well, you know,
we're just going to move her in or like, you know, we're happy
to make this happen because it'swhat's next and we're doing the
activity like it's not about Robyn.
No, they just want him to not have to drive to Saint George
every weekend. Like, And they make that pretty
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clear. Like they make it pretty clear
that this is the reason they're so happy about it.
Yeah. Oh, and of course Janelle is
unable to go and help move because she's working and you
know, she has to hold down the house and hold down the house,
hold down the Fort. And so she wasn't able to go,
right? And wasn't able to go quote UN
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quote. Janelle is real happy she had an
excuse not to go is truly what happened.
Like she was so happy to not go.If she had gone, we would just
see her kind of pacing around with, like, a light box every
once in a while and then, you know, offering us comedic relief
about how they can't get anything done.
Meanwhile, she's doing what to get it done?
Who knows? But, you know, it is nice that
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she got to stay because she definitely didn't want to go.
And then she can watch with, youknow, help out with the other
kids. So that was very sweet of her.
Yeah. Yeah, so Janelle got out of it.
Good job, Janelle. They arrive with the moving
truck, right? Like the kid, or maybe this is
before they're even heading out,but the kids are all running
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around one of the yards and Kodymake some comment and refers to
his kids as the goat rodeo. Yes, I'd never heard of this
phrase. I'm like, what are you talking
about? And this was something like,
they're not a circus, they're a goat rodeo where it's like, is
this better or worse? I was confused.
That's all I know. That's all I know.
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Maybe goat rodeos are just more country and like circuses travel
and could be in the I've never heard the phrase.
I have no idea. During this time though this
transition into when they actually start packing, they do
do a cutaway to them on the couch again.
The wives and Kody and I had an lol moment because Robyn is
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squished between Janelle and Kody and she at one point like
both of their shoulders are likeover her arms and so she is
skinny as a needle. She is skinny as a fucking
needle sitting on this couch squished between them.
And you know, Janelle, we love Janelle.
We are Janelle stands. But it was a lot like a little.
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She looked like a kid sitting between two adults.
And I was like, oh, gosh, girl like, oh, I just she's very thin
and she doesn't wear it in an alarming way.
Like I don't think she looks alarmingly thin.
But in this one shot I was like,you look like a kid.
So I think that might have to doa little bit with the teenagers
also thinking like, oh, she's 30and it's so relatable because
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her, her vibe is pretty young looking.
You know, I don't know that she looks like a teenager in her
face, but she does look young and childlike, like thin and I
don't know. Well, two things.
One, I am very sad that I didn'tnotice that.
It sounds amazing and we might have to go back and rewind.
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But I, I really think that yes, she does look thin, but I do
think it's what she's wearing. Like some of the stuff she's
wearing is clothing like Maddie wears right?
Like it's like the layered tank top over the, you know, T-shirt
with the very high schooly jeans, like very young looking
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dressing. And I feel like that's super
intentional because of a lot of the things you just mentioned
not too long ago. And foreshadowing even further
into the show, this effort to keep kids young, this effort for
youth like you, like I, you havethe pregnancy.
But her jeans, when you're talking about what she was
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wearing, I'm like, I had girlfriends in high school who
were wearing those same fucking jeans.
And that was jeans. And that was 10 years.
You know, that was a long time before that because, you know,
my friends weren't part of cultswearing clothes from 1015 years
ago. But like, still, she looks like
it was an outfit that a teenagerwould wear.
You're right. It was for sure.
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It's like there's this infantilization of children and
then also with the adults, like a want for the youth.
But like, I mean, I guess that'skind of general too, but it
feels definitely more. I don't know any 30 year olds
that look like that today. I also, I don't think it's like
an alarming thing. I don't with her anyway.
Like I don't think it's anythingtoo crazy, but I do think 'cause
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their age gap isn't even that crazy, you know, So it's like
it's OK. But I do think 30's a lot
different than 40. And I do think that her
appearance in her dress and things like that, the way she
behaves trying to act younger too, makes the daughters feel
like she is younger than she is.Kind of like you were saying,
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you know, like that's why it seems like she's so much younger
than their parents, because. Totally.
The other women do have almost like a touch of different
generation than her for sure. Like they're older for sure.
When they were sitting on the couch when Robyn was apparently
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wasting way behind them. Yeah, Christine, they had a kind
of lengthy talk about Robyn's kids, and Christine was worried
about Robyn's kids and how they were going to adjust to the
move. And then Robyn chimed in a
little bit about it. And yeah, I'm worried about all
the things. It was, she said all the right
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words. But it was funny because, I
mean, she just cried about how much she loved Maddie, but she
didn't have that much emotion about what she was talking
about, her worry about her own kids.
It didn't seem. Christine seemed more concerned.
You know, and I don't know, I, I, I think if Robyn has a worry
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for her kids, it does not outweigh her desire to make her
own life better. And she's still doing what she's
doing. So it just is what it is at this
point to her, you know? My vibe is that she's thinking
about the betterment and advancement of her despite what
it means for the kids and, and also that, you know, their life
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would probably be improved in ways.
So, you know, but definitely seem to skim over the whole
like, Oh yeah, my young kids aregoing through a huge transition
and we're joining another familyand moving across the state and
like, no, no big deal. And so then we transitioned to
the family, some of the family members getting the truck ready
to go pick up Robyn's stuff and move her to Lehigh.
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And Kody has some things that hesays that I was a little like,
OK, interesting. Including calling Meri a packing
Nazi. Oh my gosh.
Which, you know, I don't know. Amen.
She does seem like a packing Nazi, but I also am not mad
about her being a packing Nazi because I am an orderly person.
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And this is something that I like about Meri is if you need
something done, she's the one you go to.
So yeah, OK, you can throw some label on her because she's a
little bossy pants in EU Haul and given some direction.
But you know, frankly, in contrast, he is a chaos agent.
He is all around. Oh, we need, oh, you know, you
know, we need gas in this vehicle and we need this over
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here. And like, is that person here?
And he's always adding more thanwhat's needed.
And so the whole brown energy, the chaos of the family, he just
magnifies it. So I think it's just interesting
that he's pointing that out about Meri.
Well, a couple of things. First of all, Meri now tooth
puller and packing knotty. So those terms of endearment are
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really, really coming along wellfor her.
Oh, God. So I'm really happy for that.
And, you know, yeah, sure, that's great that she's bossy
and we'll take charge and do allof that.
But that U-Haul was packed terribly.
It was when they did the shot atthe end, we both we both audibly
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laughed because it was like what?
Like if you're going to tee up that she's the packing Nazi,
then this U-Haul better be like beautiful.
And it looked like they just threw all the shit in.
Well, I was like, it's all goingto smush.
Like they're going to arrive to the place with all their stuff
smushed in the back. It was terrible.
It probably would have been worse had she not taken charge.
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It probably would have taken three times as long and still
been as bad. Maybe worse even.
But yeah, good. Good for Meri.
That was great. I also really love the fact that
Robyn, so in her spotlight, had gone through the house, right,
and shown all of the rooms and all of the things, and she
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hadn't even packed her closets and they were arriving with EU
Haul. So I was disturbed by this.
I don't think she set up everybody for success.
However, they did have a small army, so.
Yes, they did have many people, but it it is weird.
I also remember that they say that the new place, there's like
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a subheading that the Robyn's new place is 1 block from their
house in Lehigh, right? Which I thought earlier in the
episode they said a mile and 1/2or they said something different
half a mile. So once again, there's just
things with the show where you think it's half a mile when it's
really a block and that's how how these people operate.
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But I couldn't determine whetherwe had seen this place in the
previous episode or if it was the place she moved into and
they filmed those scenes. Because you know, her last place
in the last episode, we talked about how her house was vacant
except for there was stuff. And now we're in a house that's
vacant with stuff. But I'm like, is it the same one
or is it the second one? Because I feel like the what we
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saw in the episode before might have been the house she moved
to. Which just still makes me so
cringe and frustrated with production that things are so
out of order. And maybe they're not out of
order, maybe I'm making it up, but this house looked like there
was more stuff around than the one that we just saw last
episode. I see what you're saying.
I didn't think it was a different place.
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I thought it was the same place,OK.
But I think that the first time that we were seeing it last, we
only saw like that one shot intothe kitchen and maybe a little
of the living room, like we saw very little of it.
So I think we saw a lot more of it this time, but I thought it
was the same place, OK. Another conspiracy theory
(35:07):
running wild on the Internet. Proven wrong?
Well here. Prove corrected.
Correct. Hey, I'm not saying I'm 100%
right like I it's not a guaranteed thought, I'm just.
I certainly have no proof. From what I recall.
Yes, of course, of course. I also thought it was cool with
our it was interesting to seeingthe kids so young because we
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watched some of these kids grow up literally on the show and
seeing them so young. I had a moment of let's call it
reflection. Let's make me sound smarter than
I am. I had a moment of reflection
where I was like, what if your childhood had been filmed and
then you were watching it as an adult and you were so like
cringe because who wants to watch themselves as a kid?
(35:49):
Like terrible. And then you have strangers
recording a podcast about you from.
When you were a kid, I would die.
I would be. Mortified.
And I just want to clarify if anyone from the Brown family is
listening to this ever, especially any of the kids know
that we see that we feel that itis that, you know, my hat goes
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off to you for having your childhood recorded and having it
broadcast on TV and now and streaming and people just talk
about it and kind of rip your family apart.
That's crazy. But I would struggle with
watching me at 10 years old, 12 years old, 15 years old.
It would be rough. Like I don't, I wouldn't like
that. So it brings up though, kind of
the the icky side of this stuff too though, right, That these
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children didn't have the abilityto give consent for their lives
to be taped, right? Their parents gave consent on
behalf of them because they thought this is cool.
We can make money from doing ATVshow and expose our religion to
the world and show people that were normal, whatever, blah blah
blah. But they do record their entire
(36:57):
family. They show their kids through
some tough times. A 12 year old might be able to
say, yeah, sure, that's fine, tape it.
But like, they don't really knowthe effects that that's going to
have at this point in their life.
Do you think they ever sat down with their kids?
And we're like, now when you're 22, you might see this again and
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it might be really embarrassing for you.
And, you know, guaranteed not it.
It just is kind of icky sometimes when kids are
televised and don't really understand the ramifications
that that's going to have in their lives.
Yeah. And specifically with the Browns
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and the production company that films us for TLCI, highly doubt
there was a lot of sensitivity about, you know, awareness for
youth and coaching. And I don't want to say therapy,
but counseling or anything that could be helpful for that.
I kind of doubt any of that happened.
Well, but also your life just revolves around filming too.
(38:00):
Like they don't have production at their house 24/7, right?
They are scheduled certain days,certain times, your family is
going to be here, they're doing this or we're going there or
we're looking at this or whatever else, right?
So they're that's what their whole life is.
Then these kids lives revolve around this TV show, you know?
(38:21):
You know, we do find out that, Imean, they, they do go to
school, some of them, and there's homeschooling.
So yeah, but yeah. And they're still.
Living a semi normal life. But there's an aspect of
planning while you're on a TV show that must affect them in
some manner, right? Absolutely.
Absolutely. And there's more dramatic things
that happen with the show that affect them in crazy ways.
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So just the day-to-day is one thing and then also big dramatic
changes in their family that arefilmed and we will tear apart.
Well, of course. And, you know, I wonder if they,
I'm sure some of these kids are super, super active on social
media now. Yeah.
And I'm sure they've given theirtake on how they feel today
(39:04):
about having grown up like this.That would be interesting.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure they have.
Several have opted to just be private and not do anything
publicly. The ones that have been
outspoken, I think we will we'lldiscuss them later on down the
road with what they said and what they do, but I don't know
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that I'm it's kind of like the ones that choose to honestly.
Like let's say for example, one of them is actually Mckelty.
Mckelty is literally like, I'm going to do a Patreon and I'm
going to watch the show and I'm going to tell everybody what I
think. And it's like, of all the kids,
we're getting Mckelty's perspective.
Like, honestly, if there was like, I don't know whose
perspective I'd want less. It's just what it is.
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And that's, you know, God bless Sister Wives.
They always give us what we want.
Well, she is who she is and she is doing her thing and Amen to
her. She is who she is.
I will agree with you there. Yeah, it's funny because I'm
like oh gosh, trash talking children, but she's no longer a
child. She's an adult who is annoying
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as fuck. So that's what that is.
So the end of the move, you know, they get that beautiful
U-Haul packed up so nice and tight and are getting ready to
take off. And what's the name of Robyn's
daughter? There's Aurora and Brianna.
Brianna's the younger. I think it's probably Aurora
(40:29):
then. Maybe?
Is she the one carrying her fishbowl?
I didn't catch which one it was.It was one of the two and she's
carrying this glass fishbowl with like some beta fish in it
or something like that. And she just has her arms like
wrapped around tight on this thing and she is holding it for
dear life. And I'm sure carried it like the
entire car ride back. But they made a very dramatic
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like the the end of the move scene was lots of musical
interludes like they they'd likefollow you, the moving truck
down the highway for a like a long time with all this music.
And it was just something else. So they made it.
Hopefully the fish survived and you know.
Definitely feel good music like look at these kids doing this
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thing, helping Brahm things are great and this family like the
vibe was totally like whitewashed.
It was it was so soft. It was velvet.
It was. It was noticeable.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then by the end of the
episode, I feel like I recognizethat Robyn cried 3 times.
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And did you get any more than that or was it 3?
The last one, the third one was the last one I had noted, yes.
OK Oh, so did she cry at the end?
Yes. OK, what did she cry about?
Oh, at the end. OK, Yeah, so she started.
I only remembered that she cried1/3 time.
I'm like, I don't even remember what she.
Cried about it was right at the very end.
(41:54):
So she was doing another spotlight and maybe this time in
the new house right when they had gotten there or something.
Right, like. Her half house.
Yeah, her half house. Which is a duplex for all of our
new. Listeners, I love it so much.
And but she was just so happy about not having to hide like
(42:15):
her kids not having to hide thatKody's their dad.
They have, you know, or not Kody's their dad.
But like in polygamy, sometimes you can't say that man's my dad
because he's married to somebodyelse, right?
And so she's so happy for this freedom and and to like get
things more exposed to the world.
And then she starts sobbing. And then she says that her
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storage items, she has all theseitems in storage and she's been
saving for this moment exactly. Making it sound like a lifetime
of saving literally literal objects.
Yes, for when she finds her man.Yes, she's been married and has
three kids. Yes, and she she's really happy.
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And then they like carry this trunk into a bedroom.
Very nondescript like pine looking trunk like.
Glad you saved that your whole life for this magical moment
where you move into your half house with your married
boyfriend. Oh my gosh.
And then are we going to talk about Christine in the dryer?
Let's go for it. Christine is, so she's like
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taking the metal or not metal, but like the tinfoil, like hose,
the vent, the dryer vent hose orwhatever.
And she's putting that on between the dryer and the wall.
And she's just kind of is laughing and chuckling and she
goes, you know, sometimes Kody'snot around and you just can't
wait for it to get done. So I do it and she puts the
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thing on and I'm just like, yeah, good job.
You don't have to wait around for no man to take care of you.
You know, that's how these womenhad to figure things out.
Especially if you only see your husband once a week.
Yeah, last thing you probably want to do is have your honey do
list be really heavy as well. I think that's something we will
find out later is how the wives treat him has different
(44:08):
directions for their futures. But there are certain things
where, yeah, if you're the man of the house, you got to take
care of them. And if you don't, then your wife
does and then she's doing all ofyour shit.
Yes, yes. The the thing about Robyn crying
that I recently saw a thing online about the astrological
signs of is is it astrological? Yeah, the astrological signs of
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the Browns, like the wives and the kids and whatever.
Oh my God. So we'll, we'll, we'll dive into
that at some point. But when reading the comments on
it, someone said, Oh my gosh, I could have sworn that Robyn was
a cancer because she's always crying.
Robyn is not a cancer. And it got me, I got my, I got
(44:56):
AI, got a thing in my, whatever.I'm gonna need you to clarify
I've. Got a hook in my craw, I got AI,
got a feather sticking out to the side.
I don't know. I've something ain't sitting
right with with with me. Listeners, if I could show you
the moves that are being made right now.
It's a good uncomfortable rooster.
Just kind of like Jocelyn from Side.
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To side, but the feather move was pretty good.
Yeah, yes. And a feather over here.
So because I am a cancer and I took it personally and it hurt
my feelings. What a shock.
But the thing I have to say about Robyn is she's not a
fucking cancer, OK? Because as a cancer, I know I
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cry way too much. I cry more than anybody I know.
And when it's happening, when something is making me feel
emotional, I, if it's not going to be a big deal, I try to shut
that shit down. Like, OK, you're going to hear
my voice crack and you're going to see my eyes all glossed over.
But I'm not crying right now. Like I'm trying.
I'm really trying. I do not want to be a crybaby.
It's who I am. And Robyn is like the opposite
(46:03):
of that. Like she is so performative.
She's covering her mouth, she's sobbing, she's looking up to the
sky. Will you see tears?
Sometimes you will. Most of the time you won't.
It's the performative part aboutcrying.
It's not that she's actually crying.
And it's like, it just got undermy craw.
That's someone said that she wasa cancer.
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Because I'm like, no, she's not a cancer.
Like she's not actually feeling these.
If she's feeling these feelings,she's putting on a show.
So I don't know, someone pissed me off, some random Internet
person pissed me off, and now you all get to hear about it.
Well, wait, but what is her sign?
I don't. Think she's a Virgo?
I, I, I hear you, but we're not going to put out the wrong
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thing. Amen.
I have the link available for verification.
I love this. I could see how if you weren't
analyzing Robyn much, you might think she's a cancer.
But I think if you're analyzing her and you know, a true cancer,
(47:08):
yeah, you would understand that she is not quite the same,
right? And yes, Robyn, Alice, Mark
Sullivan, Jessup. Oh my God.
I was born October 9th, 1978. She is a Libra.
No way. She.
Is a Libra? Oh shocking.
Now I don't get Libra energy from her.
(47:30):
I didn't expect that I I don't really know but she's definitely
not a cancer. But I don't know if she doesn't
strike me as a Libra either. Well if she was a typical Libra
it would make me re evaluate every single opinion I have of
her because of course I am a Libra right?
(47:50):
But yeah, I don't, I don't get that from her.
Yeah, I don't either. Looking through the family,
there's very, I don't, there's no cancers, which I also find to
be interesting because in reality TV there tend to be
cancers around because they bring out the feels.
For sure. But other libras that may be of
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note. Gabriel is a Libra.
OK. Gwendolyn is a Libra.
Oh yeah, for. Sure, Robyn, as we discussed,
and I think that's it for Libras.
So, you know, we'll get into theastrological signs.
I feel like I want to get into it more on an episode where
we're talking about the kids andgetting to learn, you know,
(48:34):
learn more about them 'cause there's some interesting
correlations between some of them.
But I just had to say, you know,Robyn is no Cancer and she's no
Libra. Well, I am so glad we cleared
that up for everyone. Wow.
Because if anybody out there, you know, this is probably the
best public service announcementwe really could have brought to
(48:54):
the people. Hey, Amen.
I mean, a very valuable lesson to learn today.
OK, so also I've been pulling out some things from Becoming
Sister Wives, the book that theyall wrote together about.
I also had another tagline I wanted to read from the book
because before I said the story of an unconventional marriage,
well, on the back it says a singular story of a plural
marriage. Oh.
(49:15):
Catchy, they're just. They're doing this plural,
singular. They're all about it.
Another story from this book which is funny for our Jenelle
fans. You're going to love this story
if you haven't read the book. Jenelle quit her job when she
was 22 and bought a teepee and put it up on Kody's parents
land. Oh.
My God. So she has a twisted history
(49:37):
with Kody's family and with Meri's family, and we'll get
into these things later through marriages and whatnot.
And so she knew Kody's family before they were married, before
they dated, before they courted.Excuse me, whatever.
And she bought a teepee and put it on their land and she tried
to live in it, but she didn't even make it through one night
because it was November in Wyoming.
(50:01):
So if that's going to be any, you know, foreshadow indicator
of who Janelle is, she likes starting some shit.
She likes planning some shit. Is she the queen of follow
through to be determined? But she did live in a teepee for
one night. Not even.
Not, Oh yeah, Chanel lived in a teepee for an hour or two.
(50:24):
Who? Knows I want a picture though,
like I want a picture of the teepee.
I know because I really need to understand the conditions better
right? Because, you know, teepees, if
done right, should be more than enough to survive for at least
(50:45):
one night. Can.
You imagine a sister wifes tea ateepee led.
By Janelle, the picture, Yeah, OK.
It would be like when you buy a kid for their bedroom when
they're having a 5th birthday party.
Literally like there's probably a six inch hole or gap all the
way around the bottom. No wonder you know.
Come on girl, we know that's it.It is 100% foreshadowing who
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Janelle is because of where she lands up down the road.
All the. Things.
Everything. Everything.
So. But you know, we love that
spirit about you, Janelle. We love that you would be
willing to just get rid of everything in your life and move
into a teepee for a few hours and then figure out what's next.
You're just so on top of it, Janelle.
(51:31):
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Keep suite. And this week's Keep Suite is a
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So it's so appreciated and our my favorite part of the review
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guys? And so there's some praise and
(52:38):
some love coming from Exquisitionator 234 and we love
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yes, it is too much to ask because it's absolutely not
happening. You're like not even, no,
that's. Cute, but no.
My I'll, I'll love them with you.
My number is 300 K, 300 KA year and I'll give you 10 episodes a
week. I will be living good.
I'll be living good. Ally might be the one you'd have
(53:23):
to convince. Right, right, right.
Yes. But thank you for that, we
appreciate it. Very sweet.
I don't know if we're going to do mustard seed and shit stain.
I feel like my mustard. Seed forgetting to to workshop.
To workshop this, I know we the workshop claim it's a little.
It's like it's being run by Janelle right now.
(53:44):
She wants to workshop this. Super timely.
But like, you know, nothing has happened about that.
So mustard seed and shit stain my mustard seed.
So my shit stain this week wouldbe Oh my God I don't even know.
This is so funny because I don'tknow, I'm not thinking about
(54:06):
that throughout the episode. And so it keeps catching us both
off guard a little bit, I think,to try to come up with these.
Yeah. So.
Well, I think the shit stands obvious.
Sabin, Robyn. OK.
It was just a little much for one episode.
(54:26):
We could dial it back a little bit.
Maybe they should have a conversation like one.
Well they can't because they don't know how they're going to
piece it together obviously. And like 1 Max cry per episode.
Well they don't know what's in the episode you dummy.
It'd be nice if they could limitthemselves in some manner.
Sabin, Robyn. Sabin Robyn is a shit stain.
(54:49):
I feel like my shit stain is Kody Brown because Kody called
Meri a packing Nazi and because then he complained that it made
it slow and it was, you know, itwas oh, it took so long because
she was so meticulous. Well, OK, that might be true to
you might be able to complain about that given the outcome of
(55:09):
the packing. So maybe it actually is
problematic. Like, girl, you took two hours
to do this and it looks like shit, but he's even worse.
So he is my shit stain of the week for sure.
Agreed, I like that one too. OK.
OK, so who is your mustard seed?Who's really moved you?
I'm going to go with the girls planning the birthday party as
(55:31):
my mustard seed. Yeah, I think it was a cute.
I think they did their best withplanning that party and it was
really sweet of them to do that for Sabin and.
We got to see so much of it. Yeah, I'm sure it turned out
great, right? Right.
We don't know the. First part of the episode is
(55:52):
dedicated to this thing. We have no idea how it went.
Don't know. Oh my gosh, I think that my
mustard seed is going to go to Maddie, even though I
reluctantly am giving it to Maddie because I like that she
is no holds barred. I don't know if that's the
phrase. No holds barred.
(56:14):
Yeah, OK. Yeah, that's what you said.
Right. Yes, She is that thing about
being a monogamist, like she is like, I do not want to be a
polygamist. I love it for my parents, love
it for my family. I think it's great.
Glad I grew up like this. I don't want it for me.
And so I like that as a teenager, she has some
conviction and she feels, it doesn't feel like it's just out
(56:37):
of nowhere, like that's how she feels.
And I appreciate that. Yep.
Yep, Yep, I like that too. What a ride.
Yes, what a ride is for sure. Oh my gosh.
OK, so you guys made it to the end of the third episode of the
first season, and so did we. Yes, yes.
Once again, give us five star reviews.
We're asking nicely. Please and thank you.
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Please and thank you, follow us on the socials.
Is there anything else that these good folks at home need to
know? I I don't I think there is
anything else they need to know.OK, well now we've got Robyn and
Lehigh, so we're gonna have evenmore fun experiences with Robyn
and the family. Oh, and they didn't give us
previews, which was kind of cuz you know, I really, I really did
(57:22):
like, not like, but I was aware of the previews.
You were actually disgusted by the.
Previews Gross, but. But when you don't have them,
yeah, What am I? What am I going to be girl Stout
about? Yeah, we don't know.
So we don't know what's coming for you and we're not sure if
that's operator error or you know the production company,
(57:42):
but. Absolutely.
So we'll let you know what comesas soon as we know, because we
don't know. There you go.
Wow, ending with a bang. Amen.
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Bye.
What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You shut it off.
Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim.
Sweetie. Just look at the mountain.
That's what you saw that day. Just the knife in the kidneys
over all these years and the sacrifices that I made to love
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you. All right.
Welcome back everybody. Hello.
Hello. Hi, Allie, how are you?
Good. How are you?
I'm good we just rewatched season 1, episode 3 of Sister
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Wives. The episode is called Wives on
the Move, and so broadly we are moving Robyn from Saint George
to Lehi UT, correct? Do you have anything right off
the bat that you wanted to startwith?
Or do you think we jump right into like the girls talking
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about planning this move for Robyn to move to where the
Browns live? Yeah, I think one of the things
I first wrote down is that they're officially engaged,
right? Kody and Robyn are officially
engaged. And so that's why the move can
finally take place. And that was really kind of it.
There was just excitement that they got to this next step,
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right, that OK, we can proceed. Things are happening now.
And that was pretty much it. And then, yeah, they started.
Kody had told his daughters to plan Robyn's birthday party.
Right, right. Which is, I didn't know if it
was weird to ask the daughters to plan a party because, you
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know, there's like gendered activities, blah, blah, blah.
I don't know. What did you think about that?
You know, I didn't have, like, strong feelings one way or
another. I guess it was kind of like, if
that's his way of trying to havethem be involved in things that
sweet. There is also a tinge of then he
doesn't have to do it himself, right?
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Yeah. So, so it depends on his
intentions, I suppose, with withmaking that choice.
But I thought they seem to be enjoying doing it anyway.
Like, like, they seem like they thought they thought that was
fun and what they went into quite a lengthy conversation
about Robyn's age. Yes.
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That was pretty funny. They didn't didn't one of them
said she could be like their sister or.
Something yeah. So of the kids we have Mckelty,
Maddie, Aspen and Leon. And I guess this is the first
time we're saying Leon on the show, but at the time Leons name
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is Mariah and things have changed what you will get into
in the show. But we are going to refer to
Leon as Leon. And there was a comment about
how she was only 30 and Leon said she could be my sister,
right? Which I also thought was a
little, I want to say a little juvenile in the sense that, you
know, in the same way that they are excited, I think about
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hosting the party, it's like theteenage thing, like they're
being asked to participate. They're just talking some smack
and talking about planning this birthday party for Robyn.
Mckelty said something that stuck out to me, which was a
comment that Robyn made OK. Robyn's smelt Kody's jacket
while Mckelty was wearing it andsaid something about like, oh, I
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can smell your father on this jacket or I miss your father.
I miss your father. Yes.
Yeah. I miss your dad.
And that, you know, it just it obviously stuck Mckelty as
something to bring up. She said it was weird.
Yeah, she's like, that was weird.
To be fair, no, we haven't really been introduced to the
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kids that much yet. But Mckelty is weird herself.
So it's going to be interesting to see how her how we feel about
her opinions as things go on. But another one of the things
that the girls, one of them said, Maddie said, was talking
about polygamy. And, you know, kind of the
monogamist versus polygamist wasthis thing that they kept
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cutting to her talking about. And when she she said something
about like how she would RIP thehair out of a woman's head if
they were with her man. And I thought it was funny
because it's like, duh. Like that's how most people I
think would feel. Right.
Most people are not accustomed to sharing their spouse and
being OK with that. Maybe a little more nowadays
than you know before, but I mean.
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And for spiritual reasons. Well, I don't know that I would
call them all that, but debatable.
So yeah, they, they did talk a lot about that as as kids.
I thought that was kind of interesting that they analyzed
their lifestyle in that manner. Yeah.
And yeah, it was interesting. It was for sure.
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Not a standard conversation for,I guess a high schooler.
Let's say they're maybe in high school.
I don't even, I don't even know that they're old enough to be in
high school. Frankly, I think they they think
they are probably young high school.
But to be talking about what your future relationship, your
marriage looks like. I think most people in the
monogamous world have views of what marriage is and it's just
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kind of assumed. I don't think many people are
talking about it but or asked about it.
I don't know. Middle schoolers today, like,
are all bisexual because they'rejust like, hey, we'll give
anything a shot. We don't really know yet.
You know, like, they just don't identify.
Yeah. You.
Know and that's good. That is good, but definitely
different from polygamist children in, you know, 15 years.
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2010 yes, exactly. Not comparable at all.
Oh my gosh. But it is so true.
Like when I was in high school, if you weren't at least bisexual
people were like, OK, you're lame.
At one point we cut to Kody and the wives on the couch and Robyn
has joined them. So now we're in episode 3 and
Robyn is sitting on the couch with them.
Christine divulges something about the engagement that was
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interesting that she was upset that hearing the story of Kody
proposing and then kissing Robyn, she thought, you know, I
wouldn't, I would never kiss a married man.
So she didn't kiss until they were at the altar.
Right. Yeah, clearly things have
changed. You know, she was mad.
Like she was angry that that hadhappened.
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That was not OK with her. Yeah, not only angry, but then
clearly like upset in other waystoo, because she was like
crying. Like she was crying talking
about. It well and then Saab and Robyn
started crying because she hurt Christine and it broke her heart
and she was really upset about it.
So Robyn also was upset. I think it was in that same sit
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down that Christine she just goes it's it's just all been way
too much. It's just been way too much, but
she's great like right. It was like, this has been a
lot. The transition has not been
pleasant. Nobody's in a great place right
now. But Robyn.
Robyn is great, right? Like.
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Yeah, Christine definitely makesthese statements of this is a
really big negative thing, but here's a positive thing, so it's
fine. And it's like, Oh my gosh, Like
at one point Christine literallysays that Kody's visits to Robyn
have, quote, torn them apart, UNquote.
Like torn you apart and then a second later.
But we're happy that she's moving here.
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Like what? It really what?
Yes, it's almost each statement is counterintuitive from her
when she's describing how this all is going.
It's, it's very bizarre. Meri also chimes in on the it's
been too much and all of that and, and is basically like, when
do I get attention again? Like she was crying as well.
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You know, she was like, I, I just, we've been married 20
years and I don't get the attention I used to.
And I is that going to come back?
And like she was upset. So, and this is all pretty early
on, like this is just starting, you know, so very, very
interesting. Oh they did have the birthday
party for Robyn, right? Meri gave Robyn a friendship
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bracelet. OK so that was adorable.
My favorite. They didn't show much of the
party. It was like 1.5 minutes maybe?
But then the part that they showed was literally Robyn
arriving to her own party, and everybody's just like, doing
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their own thing. They're playing games, they're
eating, they're whatever. Robyn walks in and Christine
just yells across the room like welcome and waves and a lot of
people aren't reacting to the fact that she's there and it's
her birthday party. That is pretty strange.
It's interesting they showed so little of it, so I hope it got
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better after the entrance, but bizarre, Bizarre.
I definitely felt like we were only seeing sidelines.
Like I was like, where's the party?
Like we're just seeing these things that I don't know.
There was definitely not much ofthe like, here's the birthday
party. That would be standard birthday
party things. It yeah, it was very little.
But back to when they were all sitting on the couch and
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Christine was talking about how it's all been so hard and all of
this, and Meri's crying because she doesn't get attention.
They cut to Kody after those whohad been kind of saying some of
this stuff. And he just has this extreme
look of confusion on his face, like he just simply cannot
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believe what he's hearing. And I'm like, oh, my God, yeah,
I definitely don't put those pieces together.
That's OK. But.
Yeah, I think he, if I remember correctly, he does have like a
feigning mystery or like a I'm trying to figure out what these
people are saying. Literally.
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And it's like some of it is so obvious and it's literally just
right there. But I think as the show goes on,
we will, we, I, I know we will see many, many examples of Kody
twisting situations into these fucked up ways that he explains
them, oftentimes, which are against rational thinking and
are illogical. And so I feel like when he's
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scrunching his face and he's whatever, he's trying to figure
out how he's going to tell his story, what he's going to do,
say next to like make it all OK or smooth out the edges.
You know, he's, he's got to figure out a way to do this with
his wives, which he's just curling his brow and struggling.
How am I going to spin this and gaslight them?
You know, like that's he's, he'sworking out his gaslighting
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plan. Yeah, in real time and we're
seeing it. I'm gonna pay attention to how
many times that happened that that look of how can I do this
today? Yeah, I feel like it happens
regularly. Another thing about Meri when in
her moment and she's talking about what's going on with her
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and how she says that sometimes she'd like to leave and that the
reason she doesn't is because one, she made a commitment and
her commitment levels and then two having Leon and being part
of the family. And so it must have been
interesting to be sitting there and hearing that being like,
right, It's not about, I mean, the commitment.
Yes, of course, I'm assuming every marriage is like this at
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some point where you're like, I'm just here because the
commitment is what I made. And I'm I'm sure that happens in
like every marriage. But it just stuck out to me that
she said it. She's they're sometimes Meri
just says these things are like you are in front of your spouses
or your sister wives, excuse me,And you're just kind of making
it seem like you don't want to be there with them.
You're just committed and you have a kid with them.
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Spouses. Yes.
No, not spouses. They don't do the weird stuff.
Chris, they don't get weird. So yeah, I don't know.
I, I guess I just kind of took it that they were all being
really honest and it, it didn't seem, it seemed honest and
genuine. It didn't seem like manipulative
or attention seeking in that moment.
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I guess sometimes she does seem attention seeking right?
Like as we get, as we get more forward.
But in this instance she just seemed really genuine.
And I think it's just the huge shake up for their whole family
that like, this is a lot. We're all having breakdowns.
Today is my turn, you know. And what a time to be
introducing a camera crew and filming production, the whole 9
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yards while this is going on. It must have if we stop and
think. Another thing is that these are
fundamentalist Mormon, the NAU, the AUN, They're in a cult.
Like they are straight up in a cult.
So we are joining this family that is in a cult, and I feel
like because it's TV and it's reality TV, it's in this palette
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and this framework that we can digest easily.
But it's also still like the people being filmed are in a
cult, straight up. You know, it's funny you say
that because I just had a thought that maybe they did a
good job of at least at the beginning.
I don't, I don't remember if it gets more prominent or not, but
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it'll be interesting to see. Like they didn't push the
religion stuff too much. It is dropped in here and there,
but I'm not thinking back to thefact that they're in a cult
because today, right now, it doesn't look like they're in a
cult. You know, on the show as we're
watching it. So interesting, right, 'cause
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surely that yes, they are. I agree with you 100%.
Not not questioning that fact atall, but it doesn't feel too.
Yeah, it is interesting because watching the show, I agree
completely. I don't feel like I'm watching
people under a microscope because they're in a cult.
It just doesn't they they are not pushing that.
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And you know, that's probably a good introduction for
television, but it's something to be mindful of.
These people are like, we homeschool our kids and we want
them to have multiple wives. And we think that the more wives
you have, the better you'll be in the Celestial Kingdom.
Like, right. Celestial Kingdom is a phrase
that I think we're going to usher several times.
Celestial Kingdom. I think we should not forget the
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fact that they are in a cult that does need to be in our
brain throughout this entire process.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So jumping back into the
episode, there's a point where Christine's in the car.
I don't recall where she's goingor what she's doing, but I just
noted to myself that the show atthis point, visually and the way
it's edited and the style of it is just so real in compared to
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other reality shows. Which is ironic that I'm saying
this right after talking about how we forget they're in a cult.
But the aesthetics are there. Like she the cameras a little
shaky. She doesn't look like she's ever
seen a makeup artist in her life.
She's in a car, pregnant, driving to wherever she's going,
talking about whatever, and the houses look dumpy that no one
gives a shit about and they livein somewhere ever, blah blah
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blah. There's nothing like Real
Housewives about it. There's nothing what they do to
other reality shows to give themsome judge that just is not
apparent anywhere, which I like.But every once in a while I
notice it 'cause I feel like it feels like I'm back home when I
was a kid and just driving down the street or something.
It's crazy. Yeah, I mean, it's real, you
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know, It's definitely just real right now.
Yeah, like these people are justbeing filmed doing their thing.
And yeah, you don't think that Christine had her hair and
makeup done before this episode?I I think she tried real hard.
I think she tried really hard and she was actually having a
pretty day. She didn't.
It wasn't, you're right, it wasn't even a bad day for.
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Her So here I. Am tearing her apart.
At one point it was interesting with Christine because her and
Kody were talking and I guess she at one point hadn't
necessarily wanted more kids. They she thought she might have
been done at 5:00. Right, because she had a
miscarriage a year beforehand. Oh, yes, yes, exactly.
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Yeah. And and she wasn't sure how her
body was going to handle anotherpregnancy and she was very
concerned about. Yeah, she she volunteered some
detail about like she hemorrhaged and then passed out.
So it doesn't sound like a passive or a simple experience.
And she also talks about how she's 37, which I was like OK
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well I'm older than 37 but I'm also not trying to grow another
person inside of me and push it out my Hoo ha.
Right. I mean, for women at that age,
it especially, it gets more complicated, right?
And then there was some little tidbit about how Kody was super
happy that it was a girl, because this meant they could
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try for a boy afterward. And I was like, try for a boy.
What, you gross? Like, just leave these women
alone? I don't.
Know yeah, but that whole thing led me to think about what
according to the AUB, their organization that they belong to
their religion. Excuse me, the cult that they
are part of, the more children you had, the better placement
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you have in the Celestial Kingdom.
So from a from a woman's perspective, entering into
plural marriage, it's kind of indoctrinated in them that like
sex is for procreation because the more children you have on
earth, the better you'll be in heaven.
And it's even a way for women tohook men in if they're of the
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more manipulative party is if they can volunteer that they can
have more children for a man. I don't want to say that's has
anything to do with the pedophilia that's involved in
some of these organizations, butdefinitely if you're younger,
it's looked fondly upon because you can procreate and women are
supposed to have sex for having babies.
And it makes me wonder if any ofthese women have ever had an
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orgasm because of Kody Brown. Helpful.
The obvious answer to that question is no.
Well, I'm wondering, I kind of feel like maybe Janelle.
Maybe Janelle. You know what?
She Yeah, you're right. Maybe Janelle?
I think Janelle probably is OK with saying what she wants.
Yes and so he has to work for itbecause she will either give up
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or she will stop it. She will do something that is
not favorable to his manhood unless he does what needs to
happen I think. But Meri, Christine, I
definitely don't think Christineever got an orgasm from him.
That's why she is all over her new husband so much is because
she finally did and she was likeI've been missing this all these
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years and that's why she's so horny around him all the time
now. Yes.
Literally, I mean, to have another person give you an
orgasm for the first time at, I don't know if this point she's
50 or what, however old she is. I mean, that's, yeah, maybe
you're going to act a little crazy after that.
I don't know, but I definitely don't think Meri and Christine
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are getting off because of Kody.I think Meri and Christine have
never had an orgasm from Kody and I think that Janelle makes
him make it happen like he has to do it.
Yeah, I agree. I agree for sure.
Oh God, we're just getting started.
Just getting started, Season 1, Episode 3.
You guys are going to learn so much from us.
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We are so full of wisdom and insight.
So then moving forward in the episode, we transition to the
point where Kody and the kids and Meri and Christine are going
to help Robyn move. They haven't really pointed out
who all's going yet or anything like that, but they're talking
to Robyn about the move. She's doing a spotlight moment.
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Oh yes, Robyn's getting her spotlight.
And she does say that she grew up in polygamy.
So for her, this television showis also like a coming out.
Besides joining the family and doing whatever she referenced
people from the past, like people from high school and
things that would just be learning that she's been a part
of polygamy this whole time because of her parents and that
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her first husband, they were in polygamy, polygamy, but they
never got another wife. Once again, no details about the
ex-husband, only implications and direction that there's bad
things. Things were not good.
No details, right? You know, what did he do?
We'll never know. And I also thought that Robyn
does seem to have a genuine affection for the kids,
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particularly when she's talking about Maddie.
She just did seem to like feel kind of happy to be around the
kids, but do you think she was just putting that on?
Well, she was sobbing. She.
She was sobbing. I don't know how much she loved
Maddie. I don't know if that was the
second time she cried this episode or the third, but yeah,
she's the. Second time OK #3 is coming.
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OK, sobbing. Yes, so she was sobbing.
Yes, because she loved Maddie somuch.
I do think she has a genuine affection for them.
I don't think that's false in any fashion.
I would agree with that, Yeah, yeah.
So they have a cutaway while someone's speaking and it cuts
to these framed photos that Robyn has and it was a broken
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frame. Like someone, I don't know if
Dayton, one of the kids was apologizing about breaking this
picture frame and it was Kody with her and the kids and Kody
with the kids, like they were family photos.
And I thought that was interesting because like, no, no
shade on the Pinterest moms of the world, But like, you know,
jumping into family photos and making it all whatever.
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OK, fine. I don't know that I would have
that out right now. I don't know that I would push
for that before you're married, particularly given that you're
going into this very conservative family that's in a
cult. Why would you have photos with
the husband, not your husband, someone else's husband, in your
house with your kids? I thought that was a little
weird. Did sit right with me.
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So I have two thoughts just withyou saying that number one
initially was that timing seems off, timing seems off.
But actually really truly what it is, is that they're going on
ATV show and they had all these photos taken for this TV show.
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And so they have print, she got printed copies of the photos for
the TV show, and that's why they're there.
You know what? I bet that.
Is true. I feel like it's.
Pretty possible. I suspect that that's true, that
production had them take photos and then, of course, she just
asked for copies. Yes.
That's so much less sinister than I was thinking.
I thought that she was moving inon him unnecessarily.
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But I do. I like that we can have
conspiracies and then think rationally and be like, yeah,
OK, never mind. But you know.
Well, that came out of nowhere, so I, you know, it could, we
could have gone the other way. That could have been fine too.
Yeah, yeah. As I said before, like Meri and
Christine went to help with the move.
I feel like we're missing a little detail on how much
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Christine and Robyn have interacted at this point,
because the last time we talked about it, it was a little like,
oh, I just met her and like, she's engaged to my husband.
And it was kind of like, unclear.
And I don't think I got any moreclarity from this episode.
It's, I feel like Christine saidsomething about a time of
something, but it's not like shesaid like, oh, Robyn is here all
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the time, like we hang out all the time, or like I've gotten to
know her well or there's no statements like that from
Christine. I agree.
I don't think she's really indicated how much she knows her
or anything yet. Like she hasn't really spoken
much about her actual feelings about Robyn, right?
She's spoken about her feelings about Kody and Robyn, but not,
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you know, So yeah, I think there's more to come for sure.
Yeah, When it comes to Robyn, it's like all she said is those
statements we were talking aboutbefore of like, well, you know,
we're just going to move her in or like, you know, we're happy
to make this happen because it'swhat's next and we're doing the
activity like it's not about Robyn.
No, they just want him to not have to drive to Saint George
every weekend. Like, And they make that pretty
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clear. Like they make it pretty clear
that this is the reason they're so happy about it.
Yeah. Oh, and of course Janelle is
unable to go and help move because she's working and you
know, she has to hold down the house and hold down the house,
hold down the Fort. And so she wasn't able to go,
right? And wasn't able to go quote UN
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quote. Janelle is real happy she had an
excuse not to go is truly what happened.
Like she was so happy to not go.If she had gone, we would just
see her kind of pacing around with, like, a light box every
once in a while and then, you know, offering us comedic relief
about how they can't get anything done.
Meanwhile, she's doing what to get it done?
Who knows? But, you know, it is nice that
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she got to stay because she definitely didn't want to go.
And then she can watch with, youknow, help out with the other
kids. So that was very sweet of her.
Yeah. Yeah, so Janelle got out of it.
Good job, Janelle. They arrive with the moving
truck, right? Like the kid, or maybe this is
before they're even heading out,but the kids are all running
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around one of the yards and Kodymake some comment and refers to
his kids as the goat rodeo. Yes, I'd never heard of this
phrase. I'm like, what are you talking
about? And this was something like,
they're not a circus, they're a goat rodeo where it's like, is
this better or worse? I was confused.
That's all I know. That's all I know.
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Maybe goat rodeos are just more country and like circuses travel
and could be in the I've never heard the phrase.
I have no idea. During this time though this
transition into when they actually start packing, they do
do a cutaway to them on the couch again.
The wives and Kody and I had an lol moment because Robyn is
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squished between Janelle and Kody and she at one point like
both of their shoulders are likeover her arms and so she is
skinny as a needle. She is skinny as a fucking
needle sitting on this couch squished between them.
And you know, Janelle, we love Janelle.
We are Janelle stands. But it was a lot like a little.
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She looked like a kid sitting between two adults.
And I was like, oh, gosh, girl like, oh, I just she's very thin
and she doesn't wear it in an alarming way.
Like I don't think she looks alarmingly thin.
But in this one shot I was like,you look like a kid.
So I think that might have to doa little bit with the teenagers
also thinking like, oh, she's 30and it's so relatable because
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her, her vibe is pretty young looking.
You know, I don't know that she looks like a teenager in her
face, but she does look young and childlike, like thin and I
don't know. Well, two things.
One, I am very sad that I didn'tnotice that.
It sounds amazing and we might have to go back and rewind.
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But I, I really think that yes, she does look thin, but I do
think it's what she's wearing. Like some of the stuff she's
wearing is clothing like Maddie wears right?
Like it's like the layered tank top over the, you know, T-shirt
with the very high schooly jeans, like very young looking
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dressing. And I feel like that's super
intentional because of a lot of the things you just mentioned
not too long ago. And foreshadowing even further
into the show, this effort to keep kids young, this effort for
youth like you, like I, you havethe pregnancy.
But her jeans, when you're talking about what she was
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wearing, I'm like, I had girlfriends in high school who
were wearing those same fucking jeans.
And that was jeans. And that was 10 years.
You know, that was a long time before that because, you know,
my friends weren't part of cultswearing clothes from 1015 years
ago. But like, still, she looks like
it was an outfit that a teenagerwould wear.
You're right. It was for sure.
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It's like there's this infantilization of children and
then also with the adults, like a want for the youth.
But like, I mean, I guess that'skind of general too, but it
feels definitely more. I don't know any 30 year olds
that look like that today. I also, I don't think it's like
an alarming thing. I don't with her anyway.
Like I don't think it's anythingtoo crazy, but I do think 'cause
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their age gap isn't even that crazy, you know, So it's like
it's OK. But I do think 30's a lot
different than 40. And I do think that her
appearance in her dress and things like that, the way she
behaves trying to act younger too, makes the daughters feel
like she is younger than she is.Kind of like you were saying,
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you know, like that's why it seems like she's so much younger
than their parents, because. Totally.
The other women do have almost like a touch of different
generation than her for sure. Like they're older for sure.
When they were sitting on the couch when Robyn was apparently
(29:32):
wasting way behind them. Yeah, Christine, they had a kind
of lengthy talk about Robyn's kids, and Christine was worried
about Robyn's kids and how they were going to adjust to the
move. And then Robyn chimed in a
little bit about it. And yeah, I'm worried about all
the things. It was, she said all the right
(29:55):
words. But it was funny because, I
mean, she just cried about how much she loved Maddie, but she
didn't have that much emotion about what she was talking
about, her worry about her own kids.
It didn't seem. Christine seemed more concerned.
You know, and I don't know, I, I, I think if Robyn has a worry
(30:18):
for her kids, it does not outweigh her desire to make her
own life better. And she's still doing what she's
doing. So it just is what it is at this
point to her, you know? My vibe is that she's thinking
about the betterment and advancement of her despite what
it means for the kids and, and also that, you know, their life
(30:39):
would probably be improved in ways.
So, you know, but definitely seem to skim over the whole
like, Oh yeah, my young kids aregoing through a huge transition
and we're joining another familyand moving across the state and
like, no, no big deal. And so then we transitioned to
the family, some of the family members getting the truck ready
to go pick up Robyn's stuff and move her to Lehigh.
(31:02):
And Kody has some things that hesays that I was a little like,
OK, interesting. Including calling Meri a packing
Nazi. Oh my gosh.
Which, you know, I don't know. Amen.
She does seem like a packing Nazi, but I also am not mad
about her being a packing Nazi because I am an orderly person.
(31:25):
And this is something that I like about Meri is if you need
something done, she's the one you go to.
So yeah, OK, you can throw some label on her because she's a
little bossy pants in EU Haul and given some direction.
But you know, frankly, in contrast, he is a chaos agent.
He is all around. Oh, we need, oh, you know, you
know, we need gas in this vehicle and we need this over
(31:46):
here. And like, is that person here?
And he's always adding more thanwhat's needed.
And so the whole brown energy, the chaos of the family, he just
magnifies it. So I think it's just interesting
that he's pointing that out about Meri.
Well, a couple of things. First of all, Meri now tooth
puller and packing knotty. So those terms of endearment are
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really, really coming along wellfor her.
Oh, God. So I'm really happy for that.
And, you know, yeah, sure, that's great that she's bossy
and we'll take charge and do allof that.
But that U-Haul was packed terribly.
It was when they did the shot atthe end, we both we both audibly
(32:31):
laughed because it was like what?
Like if you're going to tee up that she's the packing Nazi,
then this U-Haul better be like beautiful.
And it looked like they just threw all the shit in.
Well, I was like, it's all goingto smush.
Like they're going to arrive to the place with all their stuff
smushed in the back. It was terrible.
It probably would have been worse had she not taken charge.
(32:53):
It probably would have taken three times as long and still
been as bad. Maybe worse even.
But yeah, good. Good for Meri.
That was great. I also really love the fact that
Robyn, so in her spotlight, had gone through the house, right,
and shown all of the rooms and all of the things, and she
(33:18):
hadn't even packed her closets and they were arriving with EU
Haul. So I was disturbed by this.
I don't think she set up everybody for success.
However, they did have a small army, so.
Yes, they did have many people, but it it is weird.
I also remember that they say that the new place, there's like
(33:41):
a subheading that the Robyn's new place is 1 block from their
house in Lehigh, right? Which I thought earlier in the
episode they said a mile and 1/2or they said something different
half a mile. So once again, there's just
things with the show where you think it's half a mile when it's
really a block and that's how how these people operate.
(34:04):
But I couldn't determine whetherwe had seen this place in the
previous episode or if it was the place she moved into and
they filmed those scenes. Because you know, her last place
in the last episode, we talked about how her house was vacant
except for there was stuff. And now we're in a house that's
vacant with stuff. But I'm like, is it the same one
or is it the second one? Because I feel like the what we
(34:25):
saw in the episode before might have been the house she moved
to. Which just still makes me so
cringe and frustrated with production that things are so
out of order. And maybe they're not out of
order, maybe I'm making it up, but this house looked like there
was more stuff around than the one that we just saw last
episode. I see what you're saying.
I didn't think it was a different place.
(34:46):
I thought it was the same place,OK.
But I think that the first time that we were seeing it last, we
only saw like that one shot intothe kitchen and maybe a little
of the living room, like we saw very little of it.
So I think we saw a lot more of it this time, but I thought it
was the same place, OK. Another conspiracy theory
(35:07):
running wild on the Internet. Proven wrong?
Well here. Prove corrected.
Correct. Hey, I'm not saying I'm 100%
right like I it's not a guaranteed thought, I'm just.
I certainly have no proof. From what I recall.
Yes, of course, of course. I also thought it was cool with
our it was interesting to seeingthe kids so young because we
(35:28):
watched some of these kids grow up literally on the show and
seeing them so young. I had a moment of let's call it
reflection. Let's make me sound smarter than
I am. I had a moment of reflection
where I was like, what if your childhood had been filmed and
then you were watching it as an adult and you were so like
cringe because who wants to watch themselves as a kid?
(35:49):
Like terrible. And then you have strangers
recording a podcast about you from.
When you were a kid, I would die.
I would be. Mortified.
And I just want to clarify if anyone from the Brown family is
listening to this ever, especially any of the kids know
that we see that we feel that itis that, you know, my hat goes
(36:09):
off to you for having your childhood recorded and having it
broadcast on TV and now and streaming and people just talk
about it and kind of rip your family apart.
That's crazy. But I would struggle with
watching me at 10 years old, 12 years old, 15 years old.
It would be rough. Like I don't, I wouldn't like
that. So it brings up though, kind of
the the icky side of this stuff too though, right, That these
(36:33):
children didn't have the abilityto give consent for their lives
to be taped, right? Their parents gave consent on
behalf of them because they thought this is cool.
We can make money from doing ATVshow and expose our religion to
the world and show people that were normal, whatever, blah blah
blah. But they do record their entire
(36:57):
family. They show their kids through
some tough times. A 12 year old might be able to
say, yeah, sure, that's fine, tape it.
But like, they don't really knowthe effects that that's going to
have at this point in their life.
Do you think they ever sat down with their kids?
And we're like, now when you're 22, you might see this again and
(37:18):
it might be really embarrassing for you.
And, you know, guaranteed not it.
It just is kind of icky sometimes when kids are
televised and don't really understand the ramifications
that that's going to have in their lives.
Yeah. And specifically with the Browns
(37:38):
and the production company that films us for TLCI, highly doubt
there was a lot of sensitivity about, you know, awareness for
youth and coaching. And I don't want to say therapy,
but counseling or anything that could be helpful for that.
I kind of doubt any of that happened.
Well, but also your life just revolves around filming too.
(38:00):
Like they don't have production at their house 24/7, right?
They are scheduled certain days,certain times, your family is
going to be here, they're doing this or we're going there or
we're looking at this or whatever else, right?
So they're that's what their whole life is.
Then these kids lives revolve around this TV show, you know?
(38:21):
You know, we do find out that, Imean, they, they do go to
school, some of them, and there's homeschooling.
So yeah, but yeah. And they're still.
Living a semi normal life. But there's an aspect of
planning while you're on a TV show that must affect them in
some manner, right? Absolutely.
Absolutely. And there's more dramatic things
that happen with the show that affect them in crazy ways.
(38:42):
So just the day-to-day is one thing and then also big dramatic
changes in their family that arefilmed and we will tear apart.
Well, of course. And, you know, I wonder if they,
I'm sure some of these kids are super, super active on social
media now. Yeah.
And I'm sure they've given theirtake on how they feel today
(39:04):
about having grown up like this.That would be interesting.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure they have.
Several have opted to just be private and not do anything
publicly. The ones that have been
outspoken, I think we will we'lldiscuss them later on down the
road with what they said and what they do, but I don't know
(39:24):
that I'm it's kind of like the ones that choose to honestly.
Like let's say for example, one of them is actually Mckelty.
Mckelty is literally like, I'm going to do a Patreon and I'm
going to watch the show and I'm going to tell everybody what I
think. And it's like, of all the kids,
we're getting Mckelty's perspective.
Like, honestly, if there was like, I don't know whose
perspective I'd want less. It's just what it is.
(39:47):
And that's, you know, God bless Sister Wives.
They always give us what we want.
Well, she is who she is and she is doing her thing and Amen to
her. She is who she is.
I will agree with you there. Yeah, it's funny because I'm
like oh gosh, trash talking children, but she's no longer a
child. She's an adult who is annoying
(40:07):
as fuck. So that's what that is.
So the end of the move, you know, they get that beautiful
U-Haul packed up so nice and tight and are getting ready to
take off. And what's the name of Robyn's
daughter? There's Aurora and Brianna.
Brianna's the younger. I think it's probably Aurora
(40:29):
then. Maybe?
Is she the one carrying her fishbowl?
I didn't catch which one it was.It was one of the two and she's
carrying this glass fishbowl with like some beta fish in it
or something like that. And she just has her arms like
wrapped around tight on this thing and she is holding it for
dear life. And I'm sure carried it like the
entire car ride back. But they made a very dramatic
(40:51):
like the the end of the move scene was lots of musical
interludes like they they'd likefollow you, the moving truck
down the highway for a like a long time with all this music.
And it was just something else. So they made it.
Hopefully the fish survived and you know.
Definitely feel good music like look at these kids doing this
(41:14):
thing, helping Brahm things are great and this family like the
vibe was totally like whitewashed.
It was it was so soft. It was velvet.
It was. It was noticeable.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then by the end of the
episode, I feel like I recognizethat Robyn cried 3 times.
(41:34):
And did you get any more than that or was it 3?
The last one, the third one was the last one I had noted, yes.
OK Oh, so did she cry at the end?
Yes. OK, what did she cry about?
Oh, at the end. OK, Yeah, so she started.
I only remembered that she cried1/3 time.
I'm like, I don't even remember what she.
Cried about it was right at the very end.
(41:54):
So she was doing another spotlight and maybe this time in
the new house right when they had gotten there or something.
Right, like. Her half house.
Yeah, her half house. Which is a duplex for all of our
new. Listeners, I love it so much.
And but she was just so happy about not having to hide like
(42:15):
her kids not having to hide thatKody's their dad.
They have, you know, or not Kody's their dad.
But like in polygamy, sometimes you can't say that man's my dad
because he's married to somebodyelse, right?
And so she's so happy for this freedom and and to like get
things more exposed to the world.
And then she starts sobbing. And then she says that her
(42:40):
storage items, she has all theseitems in storage and she's been
saving for this moment exactly. Making it sound like a lifetime
of saving literally literal objects.
Yes, for when she finds her man.Yes, she's been married and has
three kids. Yes, and she she's really happy.
(43:03):
And then they like carry this trunk into a bedroom.
Very nondescript like pine looking trunk like.
Glad you saved that your whole life for this magical moment
where you move into your half house with your married
boyfriend. Oh my gosh.
And then are we going to talk about Christine in the dryer?
Let's go for it. Christine is, so she's like
(43:24):
taking the metal or not metal, but like the tinfoil, like hose,
the vent, the dryer vent hose orwhatever.
And she's putting that on between the dryer and the wall.
And she's just kind of is laughing and chuckling and she
goes, you know, sometimes Kody'snot around and you just can't
wait for it to get done. So I do it and she puts the
(43:46):
thing on and I'm just like, yeah, good job.
You don't have to wait around for no man to take care of you.
You know, that's how these womenhad to figure things out.
Especially if you only see your husband once a week.
Yeah, last thing you probably want to do is have your honey do
list be really heavy as well. I think that's something we will
find out later is how the wives treat him has different
(44:08):
directions for their futures. But there are certain things
where, yeah, if you're the man of the house, you got to take
care of them. And if you don't, then your wife
does and then she's doing all ofyour shit.
Yes, yes. The the thing about Robyn crying
that I recently saw a thing online about the astrological
signs of is is it astrological? Yeah, the astrological signs of
(44:35):
the Browns, like the wives and the kids and whatever.
Oh my God. So we'll, we'll, we'll dive into
that at some point. But when reading the comments on
it, someone said, Oh my gosh, I could have sworn that Robyn was
a cancer because she's always crying.
Robyn is not a cancer. And it got me, I got my, I got
(44:56):
AI, got a thing in my, whatever.I'm gonna need you to clarify
I've. Got a hook in my craw, I got AI,
got a feather sticking out to the side.
I don't know. I've something ain't sitting
right with with with me. Listeners, if I could show you
the moves that are being made right now.
It's a good uncomfortable rooster.
Just kind of like Jocelyn from Side.
(45:17):
To side, but the feather move was pretty good.
Yeah, yes. And a feather over here.
So because I am a cancer and I took it personally and it hurt
my feelings. What a shock.
But the thing I have to say about Robyn is she's not a
fucking cancer, OK? Because as a cancer, I know I
(45:40):
cry way too much. I cry more than anybody I know.
And when it's happening, when something is making me feel
emotional, I, if it's not going to be a big deal, I try to shut
that shit down. Like, OK, you're going to hear
my voice crack and you're going to see my eyes all glossed over.
But I'm not crying right now. Like I'm trying.
I'm really trying. I do not want to be a crybaby.
It's who I am. And Robyn is like the opposite
(46:03):
of that. Like she is so performative.
She's covering her mouth, she's sobbing, she's looking up to the
sky. Will you see tears?
Sometimes you will. Most of the time you won't.
It's the performative part aboutcrying.
It's not that she's actually crying.
And it's like, it just got undermy craw.
That's someone said that she wasa cancer.
(46:24):
Because I'm like, no, she's not a cancer.
Like she's not actually feeling these.
If she's feeling these feelings,she's putting on a show.
So I don't know, someone pissed me off, some random Internet
person pissed me off, and now you all get to hear about it.
Well, wait, but what is her sign?
I don't. Think she's a Virgo?
I, I, I hear you, but we're not going to put out the wrong
(46:46):
thing. Amen.
I have the link available for verification.
I love this. I could see how if you weren't
analyzing Robyn much, you might think she's a cancer.
But I think if you're analyzing her and you know, a true cancer,
(47:08):
yeah, you would understand that she is not quite the same,
right? And yes, Robyn, Alice, Mark
Sullivan, Jessup. Oh my God.
I was born October 9th, 1978. She is a Libra.
No way. She.
Is a Libra? Oh shocking.
Now I don't get Libra energy from her.
(47:30):
I didn't expect that I I don't really know but she's definitely
not a cancer. But I don't know if she doesn't
strike me as a Libra either. Well if she was a typical Libra
it would make me re evaluate every single opinion I have of
her because of course I am a Libra right?
(47:50):
But yeah, I don't, I don't get that from her.
Yeah, I don't either. Looking through the family,
there's very, I don't, there's no cancers, which I also find to
be interesting because in reality TV there tend to be
cancers around because they bring out the feels.
For sure. But other libras that may be of
(48:11):
note. Gabriel is a Libra.
OK. Gwendolyn is a Libra.
Oh yeah, for. Sure, Robyn, as we discussed,
and I think that's it for Libras.
So, you know, we'll get into theastrological signs.
I feel like I want to get into it more on an episode where
we're talking about the kids andgetting to learn, you know,
(48:34):
learn more about them 'cause there's some interesting
correlations between some of them.
But I just had to say, you know,Robyn is no Cancer and she's no
Libra. Well, I am so glad we cleared
that up for everyone. Wow.
Because if anybody out there, you know, this is probably the
best public service announcementwe really could have brought to
(48:54):
the people. Hey, Amen.
I mean, a very valuable lesson to learn today.
OK, so also I've been pulling out some things from Becoming
Sister Wives, the book that theyall wrote together about.
I also had another tagline I wanted to read from the book
because before I said the story of an unconventional marriage,
well, on the back it says a singular story of a plural
marriage. Oh.
(49:15):
Catchy, they're just. They're doing this plural,
singular. They're all about it.
Another story from this book which is funny for our Jenelle
fans. You're going to love this story
if you haven't read the book. Jenelle quit her job when she
was 22 and bought a teepee and put it up on Kody's parents
land. Oh.
My God. So she has a twisted history
(49:37):
with Kody's family and with Meri's family, and we'll get
into these things later through marriages and whatnot.
And so she knew Kody's family before they were married, before
they dated, before they courted.Excuse me, whatever.
And she bought a teepee and put it on their land and she tried
to live in it, but she didn't even make it through one night
because it was November in Wyoming.
(50:01):
So if that's going to be any, you know, foreshadow indicator
of who Janelle is, she likes starting some shit.
She likes planning some shit. Is she the queen of follow
through to be determined? But she did live in a teepee for
one night. Not even.
Not, Oh yeah, Chanel lived in a teepee for an hour or two.
(50:24):
Who? Knows I want a picture though,
like I want a picture of the teepee.
I know because I really need to understand the conditions better
right? Because, you know, teepees, if
done right, should be more than enough to survive for at least
(50:45):
one night. Can.
You imagine a sister wifes tea ateepee led.
By Janelle, the picture, Yeah, OK.
It would be like when you buy a kid for their bedroom when
they're having a 5th birthday party.
Literally like there's probably a six inch hole or gap all the
way around the bottom. No wonder you know.
Come on girl, we know that's it.It is 100% foreshadowing who
(51:07):
Janelle is because of where she lands up down the road.
All the. Things.
Everything. Everything.
So. But you know, we love that
spirit about you, Janelle. We love that you would be
willing to just get rid of everything in your life and move
into a teepee for a few hours and then figure out what's next.
You're just so on top of it, Janelle.
(51:31):
All right, so if you're familiarwith the show, you know we do a
Keep suite. And this week's Keep Suite is a
review on Apple Podcast, which is so great from Squishinator
234. So now Squishinator squish a
Nader 234I. Need to know.
I need to know. Why I know I'm curious.
If you are on the socials and this is you, comment on
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Or no offense. What we love about what Squish
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(52:15):
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So it's so appreciated and our my favorite part of the review
is quote, but is it too much to ask for 10 episodes a week,
guys? And so there's some praise and
(52:38):
some love coming from Exquisitionator 234 and we love
that we could do 10 episodes a week, but unfortunately it would
be very expensive. If you have like a $300,000 a
year budget we will do 10 episodes a week for you no
problem. I was actually just going to say
(53:01):
yes, it is too much to ask because it's absolutely not
happening. You're like not even, no,
that's. Cute, but no.
My I'll, I'll love them with you.
My number is 300 K, 300 KA year and I'll give you 10 episodes a
week. I will be living good.
I'll be living good. Ally might be the one you'd have
(53:23):
to convince. Right, right, right.
Yes. But thank you for that, we
appreciate it. Very sweet.
I don't know if we're going to do mustard seed and shit stain.
I feel like my mustard. Seed forgetting to to workshop.
To workshop this, I know we the workshop claim it's a little.
It's like it's being run by Janelle right now.
(53:44):
She wants to workshop this. Super timely.
But like, you know, nothing has happened about that.
So mustard seed and shit stain my mustard seed.
So my shit stain this week wouldbe Oh my God I don't even know.
This is so funny because I don'tknow, I'm not thinking about
(54:06):
that throughout the episode. And so it keeps catching us both
off guard a little bit, I think,to try to come up with these.
Yeah. So.
Well, I think the shit stands obvious.
Sabin, Robyn. OK.
It was just a little much for one episode.
(54:26):
We could dial it back a little bit.
Maybe they should have a conversation like one.
Well they can't because they don't know how they're going to
piece it together obviously. And like 1 Max cry per episode.
Well they don't know what's in the episode you dummy.
It'd be nice if they could limitthemselves in some manner.
Sabin, Robyn. Sabin Robyn is a shit stain.
(54:49):
I feel like my shit stain is Kody Brown because Kody called
Meri a packing Nazi and because then he complained that it made
it slow and it was, you know, itwas oh, it took so long because
she was so meticulous. Well, OK, that might be true to
you might be able to complain about that given the outcome of
(55:09):
the packing. So maybe it actually is
problematic. Like, girl, you took two hours
to do this and it looks like shit, but he's even worse.
So he is my shit stain of the week for sure.
Agreed, I like that one too. OK.
OK, so who is your mustard seed?Who's really moved you?
I'm going to go with the girls planning the birthday party as
(55:31):
my mustard seed. Yeah, I think it was a cute.
I think they did their best withplanning that party and it was
really sweet of them to do that for Sabin and.
We got to see so much of it. Yeah, I'm sure it turned out
great, right? Right.
We don't know the. First part of the episode is
(55:52):
dedicated to this thing. We have no idea how it went.
Don't know. Oh my gosh, I think that my
mustard seed is going to go to Maddie, even though I
reluctantly am giving it to Maddie because I like that she
is no holds barred. I don't know if that's the
phrase. No holds barred.
(56:14):
Yeah, OK. Yeah, that's what you said.
Right. Yes, She is that thing about
being a monogamist, like she is like, I do not want to be a
polygamist. I love it for my parents, love
it for my family. I think it's great.
Glad I grew up like this. I don't want it for me.
And so I like that as a teenager, she has some
conviction and she feels, it doesn't feel like it's just out
(56:37):
of nowhere, like that's how she feels.
And I appreciate that. Yep.
Yep, Yep, I like that too. What a ride.
Yes, what a ride is for sure. Oh my gosh.
OK, so you guys made it to the end of the third episode of the
first season, and so did we. Yes, yes.
Once again, give us five star reviews.
We're asking nicely. Please and thank you.
(56:59):
Please and thank you, follow us on the socials.
Is there anything else that these good folks at home need to
know? I I don't I think there is
anything else they need to know.OK, well now we've got Robyn and
Lehigh, so we're gonna have evenmore fun experiences with Robyn
and the family. Oh, and they didn't give us
previews, which was kind of cuz you know, I really, I really did
(57:22):
like, not like, but I was aware of the previews.
You were actually disgusted by the.
Previews Gross, but. But when you don't have them,
yeah, What am I? What am I going to be girl Stout
about? Yeah, we don't know.
So we don't know what's coming for you and we're not sure if
that's operator error or you know the production company,
(57:42):
but. Absolutely.
So we'll let you know what comesas soon as we know, because we
don't know. There you go.
Wow, ending with a bang. Amen.
All right, we'll take care. We'll talk to you guys soon.
Bye.
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