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Hello world, welcome to my Sister Wives podcast.
I'm Chris. And I'm Allie, we're long time
friends who had no idea we were both watching the TLC trainwreck
reality show Sister Wives. Join us as we rewatch Sister
Wives, maybe have a drink or two, and share what useless
information and insights we can provide.
Listen to us two deadbeat losersjudge the Brown family.
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That's us all right. See you on the.
Flip side. Let me call you sweetheart, I'm
in love with you. What does the nanny do?
OK, so we're done. Goodbye.
You. Shut it off.
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Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim.
Sweetie. Just look at the mountain.
That's what you saw that day. Just a knife in the kidneys over
all these years and the sacrifices that I made to love
you. Oh, Oh dear Lord.
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It's our first Halloween special.
And what an intro that was. Thank you.
I, I was going to bring out my machine, the one that you do
this over, but it's in storage and I thought that would be a
lot, you know. What's the line from that movie
where it's like, and are you embarrassed by the noises that
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I'm making like, oh, I don't know, ladies and gentlemen, if
you know, did I, did I make thatup or did it happen somewhere
that I'm like getting it? I never remember anything.
Well, we know that well. I.
Mean, I do know that movie. I love that movie.
It's great. Somebody, somewhere, if that
exists, let us know. Thank you.
If it has John Cusack in it or whatever, like, then we'll be
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like apologies. Apologies all around.
Maybe by the end of it I'll remember what it was.
OK season 2 episode 4 of Sister Wives carving into polygamy.
I see what they did there. It's pretty clever.
This is our first Halloween special.
It's funny because when I think of TV shows and Halloween
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specials, I think of like, you know, scary stories.
They're taking tales of old likeThe Simpsons.
I always do with Treehouse of Horrors where they take like
Edgar Allan Poe and turn it intocontemporary.
And we're not getting that. The Brown family, we are.
We are not getting anything close to that.
We are just getting the Browns getting together.
They're going to go to a park asa way to distract the kids from
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current police investigations and the scandals with the
family. And then they're going to go to
a farm to get pumpkins for pumpkin carving for Halloween,
in which they will be trick or treating.
So that's the overall thing thatwe're told at the beginning that
they're going to be doing. Yep, they've still given us zero
additional details about said investigation.
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Right. We still have almost 0
information about what that is, but we keep hearing about how it
affects the family. There is an investigation and in
general, I don't know if it's been every episode in this
season because we're only on episode 4, but there seems to be
like an intro where they addressit and then the rest of the
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episode is the reaction to the what's happening.
Like how they're dealing with it.
But dealing with what? An investigation.
It's. It's very on brand for the Brown
family to be dealing with something when you don't really
know what it is. So that actually makes sense.
The show opens with everyone meeting at the compound.
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And the first thing that I thinkof, like, all the kids are
everywhere and they're getting ready to do something.
We don't quite know what yet, but there's like, a kid on every
chair, a kid on every stool, a kid walking here, a kid going
there. And the energy level is just
high. Like it made me feel like
sometimes, you know, when you'rearound a lot of people and then
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you are not around a lot of people and all of a sudden
you're like, holy shit, I was just around a lot of people.
I feel like I experienced that just from watching the show.
Like I'm like, there's so many people and they're doing so many
things. I don't know about daily life
like that. Like that's crazy.
I feel like this is something out of yes.
Definitely my worst nightmare. Like like having a large group
of people not together for it's not like a work purpose where
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you're all going together to accomplish a goal.
And even those can be shit shows, right?
But this is trying to get a large group of people to
accomplish a fairly simple task,as in leaving the home to go
somewhere and do something fun together.
And inevitably, it is a shit show every single time.
Every time. And it is stuff out of
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nightmares. I mean, I just could not.
Absolutely. Not yeah.
And they start getting ready to leave where they're going to go
to the park, I guess, and they're all going out to the
car. They do start by talking about
how Logan and Leon are the two kids that they can have driving
or that they that can drive. And, you know, Meri's like, oh,
it's so crazy that we have kids old enough to drive and Amen.
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I'm sure that's a universal experience.
I can't imagine when your child can drive.
I will be like saying a prayer for the world.
Yep, you know. Yeah, for.
Sure, but I mean, I remember when I first got my permit, Oh
my gosh, driving up and down thehills of rural Minnesota, going
to my grandparents house and I would slow down going up the
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hill and then like as I didn't really accelerate enough and my
mom would be like, Bob, tell your son so.
He needs to. Accelerate going up the hills
and I'm just sure my mom was going crazy with every single
thing I was doing. So I get that.
But it was funny because Leon's like, I want to drive the Lexus.
And so apparently Leon's drivingthe Lexus.
Right, right. Janelle says, you know, it
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always surprises me how long it takes just to get from the house
to the car and that she would like to do seating assignments,
which I thought was great. Problem solver right there,
Janelle, Good job. Good job.
I love that and I love that she gets so annoyed about the
execution of them doing anythinglike of them doing like, oh,
like, I would totally be Janellein all of these situations.
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Like you all just pick a fuckingseat and sit in it.
Like it's not that hard, yes? Yes, and then they made some
sort of reference to how well you could do a seating chart.
But it depends on who's mad at each other one day and they
can't get along. And then I'm like, Oh my God.
Yeah. Like Jesus?
And who wants to be with what wife?
Because like if someone's mad ata mom, like.
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It was so much but like Oh my God.
And then as they all start leaving the house, they just all
look fucking angry. Did you see it?
Every single child, every singleadult straight faced like
stomping out that yes. The number of times in my life
where that was probably our family leaving the house.
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And the threat of we're not going if you guys don't give
shit together and you know, Oh my God.
Times like 5 or 10 or however many like.
Oh my God. Way too fucking many.
So many is the answer to that question.
What a ride. But they did leave the home and
that was really great. Leon creeped down the road.
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And Alexis? I think we got backed out.
It was going the wrong way. So, Kody said turn around.
So go into the driveway, back up, and when Leon's leaving, it
is like slow. I wrote down like .2 miles an
hour. It was like, no, like just foot
off the accelerator, just coasting.
Kody's like, Yep, we could. Yep, you're just gonna go
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straight ahead. And Oh my gosh, it was
hilarious. Yep.
And then cut to that same vehicle, the Lexus pulling up to
the curb in front of the park, and he's like, Yep, a little
more, a little more in. OK, Yep, here we're good.
And it's totally still not even.Good, but it's like.
Amen, we're done with this. Park the car and hope it doesn't
get hit. It wasn't completely dangerous.
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Right, right. It was reckless for the Browns
parking a foot away from the curb and then they cut to the
family sitting around tables where they have pizza in the
park and Christine talks about how they rarely get pizza.
Totally understandable feeding that many people.
I tried to count the pizza boxesbut it was already towards the
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end of the scene where I was like how many pizzas even is it?
And it was at least 12. I was.
Going to say at least 12. Yeah, there was at least 12
because there was 6 on each sideof this one picnic table that I
got in one glimpse. And so obviously 12 pizzas.
If you're buying like discount pizzas, like let's say you're
getting Domino's still at like, let's say back in the day, $5 a
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pizza, it's some great deal. You know, you're still probably
looking at an overall cost of like $100 just to get everybody
pizza. And when you don't have a lot of
money, that's a big deal. Right.
And today that would be like $300.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Inflation. It's true.
Yeah, I that resonated a little bit because I think that we,
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both of us when we were younger,we weren't getting pizza on
regular either, right? It was definitely a special
thing. Yeah, so we're like, we got to
go out to Chinese like once a year, maybe once every couple
years. And it was like the coolest
thing we got to do, you know, so.
Amen. Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, if we had pizzas in the park, it would have to be a
special thing. Literally.
Like I'm thinking about this family having a camera crew
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there and filming them, and I'm like, it'd have to be the same
thing for my parents. Like, oh, we've got people
filming us. We better buy our kids some
pizza. It's like, Amen.
But. It'd be Little Caesars, not
Domino's. Yes.
Oh, and back in the day, that would have been oh, chef's kiss.
They do a couple interview moments with the kids and I
thought it was. These were.
Funny. They were funny.
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So throughout the episode and wewe talked about this just as we
started recording was how this episode is so kid emphasized.
There's so much content, so muchfootage of the kids, it becomes
a little interesting to talk about because we're dissecting a
family with children. We don't really want to tear the
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kids apart. Luckily, I don't think we have
to in this episode, but there's a lot of kid content, so bear
with us as we're talking about the children.
Yeah, I mean, we're not trying to be total assholes and RIP the
kids apart. That is not our intention.
But if they be crazy, we're going to call it out.
Only moderate assholes. But we'll give them, we'll give
them the opportunity to make it up for themselves, right?
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Yeah, Rectified. Rectified.
Won't be our last in this footage from 15 years ago.
You've got a chance to make thisup.
And because they care what we think.
They do, deeply. Aurora cares so much that she
was talking about how the four branches of a tree are like
their family now. I don't remember why she started
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talking about a tree. Do you remember why she started
talking about a tree? Or did she just bring it up as
an example of how their family is?
When they went from the park andkind of everybody together, then
they all started kind of talkingabout Robyn's kids being a part
of the mix. Like there was some like voice
overs of some of that. And then when it kept to the
interview of the kids, I think Aurora had started saying like,
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yes, and we've been here, you know, since June when my mom got
married and blah, blah, blah. Like they were kind of like
talking like the timetable and how she she really loved being a
part of the family and cut too. Yeah, another family tree has
like 4 branches. Yes, each mom is a branch blah
blah blah. And then Kody visits all the
branches, is what she said. Or he's the trunk that holds
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them together. Maybe she didn't speak that, but
I think that's what she meant. That's what she meant, which is
why. When the trunk starts to rot,
branches fall off and die. Oh wow.
That's what I saw in Aurora's eyes when she was.
Foreshadowing. That Aurora, she's a she's a
visionary, I. Didn't even know I had that
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thought about it until right now.
Amen, Amen. It is funny during this time
when they're talking about Robyn's kids joining because
there's overall attack, I shouldn't say attack.
A addressing of the sensitivity of Robyn's kids joining the
family, how they are so much more sensitive and that they're
sensitive about different things.
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And my favorite was what Maddie said.
Do you remember what Maddie saidabout Brianna crying?
Well, they were talking about Brianna crying and then talking
about all of them crying. And Maddie had such a funny line
about them crying over stupid stuff, yes, but she was like,
they don't. Just when they come over and
they're just like crying about stupid stuff.
And it's like, Oh my God. And our moms would be like, why
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are you crying about something so ridiculous?
Yeah, stop it, you know? And but in the middle of all of
that, Brianna had a meltdown on the couch.
Like, all the kids were on the couch.
And Brianna starts crying. She boomed my hair, and she just
lost her shit. And.
And Gwendolyn apologized, which was funny because it's like you
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didn't even know it was her, butOK.
Well, right. And like it should happens, like
chill out, you know, But there was a moment that Robyn was
saying, yeah, Brianna's just such a tender heart.
She's so tender, you know, spiritually, but then physically
sensitive to and Janelle. And of course Janelle has all
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the boys pretty much right like and Janelle is sitting next to
her looking the other direction and Janelle rolls her eyes so.
Hard. So hard, like, yeah, OK, You
know, because if you're the mom of especially some of the boys
that are gonna get accused of, you know, hurting Brianna, like,
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Oh my God. Yeah, you could tell that's
maybe the only thing that's taking a toll right now is
Brianna. Yeah.
That makes sense. That does make sense.
I'd love that moment with Janelle.
So our simple Queen Janelle and.Then Logan goes.
But, you know, sometimes it's good for us.
It's teaching us all some some additional patients.
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Thanks, Logan. Yeah.
He's, he's such an old soul, really.
What we want everybody to do is shut the fuck up, right?
Right, he was. He was like a young adult.
Yeah, he is the he is the ever more optimist and the good guy.
Total good guy. So then you're just going, yeah,
you're not wrong, but we're hereto complain about it.
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That's. I'm glad you don't complain
about it, but we're here to complain about it.
Oh my God, it. Was a lot.
It was very funny though, all oftheir kind of little tidbits
about it and they they were trying to even Maddie I think
was trying to be PC in a sense. Like she wasn't trying to be
mean about what she was saying, but she was just like, it's
stupid stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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All of the kids had basically the same vibes about everything
where everything's fine, but yeah, they cry a lot.
Oh my gosh, my other favorite Maddie moment.
OK. They're all leaving the house or
leaving the park to go to the pumpkin patch.
OK. And she's hanging out the car
window. Do you remember this like having
like a seizure out the car window, Like the windows broke
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down and she just starts going like this?
But it's not Maddie Who? Is it?
Who is it? It's.
Mckelty. Mckelty.
Mckelty because she has that Ronald McDonald red hair.
Well, I knew it was red hair, but for some reason I thought
but Maddie's. Blonde Maddie's black.
She has black hair right now. Like very dark.
Like a Bob. Thing I'm getting the sorry
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Maddie, I blame that. It's ironic that Maddie's
nickname Madeline is Maddie. People call him Madonna Maddie
sometimes and there's so many different looks.
So I'm going to give her that right now.
I'm going to tear it away in like 5 seconds but I'm giving
her that. I feel that was extra generous.
Well, Maddie, she's in her BlackBob era.
Hey, I appreciate it. I get it.
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I get it. Well, I guess I retract my
previous statement. Mckelty having a seizure out the
window and I'm just going, Oh myGod.
Like, so not only did we leave the house, we're actually going
to another location and having to do this all again and all in
the car again. And one of the highlights of
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this transition is Mckelty sticking her head out the back
window of a of like one of thosedoors that slides open in a
minivan. She's got her head out and I
hate to say it, but part of her chest in her bosom and she's
bouncing up and down like she isliterally like I guess is having
a seizure but like in a bouncy house.
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Like I don't really know. But she's like too old to be
doing this and it's out the sideof a vehicle and just production
Just happened to catch this moment of a teenage girl
bouncing like she's having out of control physical activity.
And then it's like done. And I'm like, oh God, why did we
have to see that it? Was it was intense?
Yeah. That's all I can say.
I just feel like if there was a reel of Mckelty's greatest
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moments, which please, I could never, I don't have the strength
to make, but if someone else wanted to make.
It like that would take so much time.
It would it would be a thing andthis would have to be 1 of the
highlights. Was the bouncing in the minivan.
Like girl, wow. That yes, it was something else.
And then, you know, they did make it to their next
destination, Evans Family Farm. Yes, they did.
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They did. So one thing that I liked about
the farm right off the bat was that there was some footage of
them going to pick up pumpkins. So they're picking up pumpkins
as their goal to do carving later.
Very wholesome, very. Once again, not really a great
Halloween special activity, likeif you're trying to scare me or
get me titillated, but whatever.Do you think their goal?
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How often is titillation? Well, they definitely scare me
so, but it's a different kind offright.
One thing that was cool about this farm was mountains behind
it, and it was rather picturesque.
There was like old buildings andlike fields, and it looked like
the kind of place you would go to take pictures.
Pictures, not pictures, picturesand go pick a pumpkin.
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So they that's what they did. And there was so many pumpkins
to be gotten. Oh my gosh.
The fact that all the kids had adifferent mission in choosing
their pumpkins. Yes.
And we're particular. A very particular.
Some wanted small, some wanted big, some wanted green, some
wanted orange, as it turns out. Yeah.
And they go back to another one of the kid interview moments.
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I was like, oh, these unrealistic pumpkin
expectations. It was like, yeah, I think maybe
Logan or Garrison, one of the maybe Garrison.
Garrison. Because Dayton was talking about
how he had wanted a thick, roundorange pumpkin and Garrison was
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like, yeah, that's just not really, like, super realistic.
Like most of them are green and some of them have dents in them.
And none of them are really likethat round.
They're different shapes. And just like, goes on this tan
to why? Just calm the fuck down and take
the pumpkin you get. OK, yes.
And Garrison with that Mohawk hair that he rocks for a while
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in his youth, which I love because it looks like it has to
be supported by someone, like someone has to help him do it.
It is what it looks like. So someone is helping him with
this and I support that. Amen.
There's a, a cut or a cutaway orwhatever to marry with Dayton
with a pumpkin where he picks upthis huge, a big pumpkin.
It's really hard to tell how bigit is, but it's a big pumpkin,
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right? He's he's got his big plump
pumpkin. For tiny little miniature
Dayton. And he's holding this big
pumpkin and he's like, oh, and they're like kind of shut, like
Meri, help me, whatever. And then Meri's like helping him
hold it. And then it's like, OK, you got
this. And he was like, no, no, no, no
Meri. And then she had to like take
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it. And she was like, I think it's
fine. Like she, the way she was
holding it was like, dude, come on, get it together.
It was even better because Dayton wanted Meri to pick the
pumpkin up and hand it to him. He couldn't get get it off the
ground. OK.
OK. So he was trying to get off the
ground, and he was like, surely if someone hands it to me, I can
hold this. So Meri is like, all right, man,
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cool. You know, she goes and picks up
the pumpkin fairly gingerly, sets it in Dayton's arms.
Yeah. And you're correct.
For about 3 1/2 seconds, he holds that pumpkin freaking out.
No, take it. Take it, take it.
And then she takes it back and it's like, yeah, all right,
loser. Like whatever you know.
Yeah, totally. No offense, no, but he's.
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Sensitive. It was, it did not, it was
comical. It was just, it was comical.
It was funny. And, you know, I think the
pumpkin did make it home with them and he likely carved it.
Oh, I hope so. I hope so.
So especially after all the to do's about holding it.
Cut to another super fun part oftheir day.
Yes, is then getting this past ton of pumpkins back to their
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home right, which is really funny.
So they've just created like these piles of pumpkins
throughout the patch, the pumpkin patch.
Jeez. And then they have to get those
back so that they can a weigh and pay for them and then B put
them amongst many, many vehicles.
Fit them all in the Lexus, Yeah.Like I was like, did they think
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that like our kids holding pumpkins home?
Like, is that how they have to do it?
I didn't think it was going to work out.
As I was watching the lead in, Iwas like, oh God, here we go.
Like, whatever. But so they're starting to load
them up onto wagons and things and there's a moment of doubt, I
guess. But how would you?
Yeah, I feel like, well, becausethey are putting pumpkins into
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wheelbarrows to try to help movethings.
So that's like they're organizing and the kids are
running around, whatever. It's chaos.
It's another moment I think of Kody being a leader without
leading, like he's trying to be the one who's trying to make any
decisions happen and meanwhile people are just doing whatever
around him anyway. And then there's a couple
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wheelbarrows I think next to each other.
And it is funny because there isa clip of like a pumpkin falling
out of a wheelbarrow and stuff. So they are Roly Poly weird
objects and they're trying to get them in things to move them
to the vehicle. And of course, Kody's the
ringleader but isn't leading anyrings.
Yes, and you know Meri, they they do the kids give her some
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Fred. Maybe when they talk about this
post, what we're about to talk about like that, she doesn't
dilly dally. She's gonna get the shit done
right and. It's not just cuz she's the
first wife, it's her personality.
It's her personality, correct? And I agree with that 100%.
So Meri is determined. She has a full ass wheelbarrow
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and they are not easy to move. You know I.
And she's down in a like a bit of a ditch.
Thing and so she is about she's going to fucking do this yeah
and Kody if it hadn't been a television that's not mine that
I could have whipped something at the fucking television he
show us your strong womanhood Meri like he makes this like
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fucking dig like okay yeah yeah except I don't know did you see
him jumping in to move the wheelbarrow.
I didn't. With my own eyes.
I did not see him move a single wheelbarrow.
I did not see him pick up a single large pumpkin.
I didn't see him do anything. Interesting.
Yeah, I didn't either. Yeah, I just heard his ass hat
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remark and then proceeded to watch one of his other wives
help Meri get the wheelbarrow out of the little gutter ditch
thing they're in. And that bitch pushed that
fucking thing all the way out ofthere and was like fuck you Sir
and Amen. As she should.
Have Yes, yes. You know, and he literally did
nothing except trying to point and direct and tell yeah, he was
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not jumping in to fix a problem.No like.
But this was one of maybe at least two moments that he feels
like he doesn't have any controlin this family.
Yeah, another one comes towards the Halloween Ness.
But like, he wants to be in control.
He wants to have that power. But you know what?
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These women walk around you because they have to figure
their own shit out all day, every day because you ain't
doing it for them. Yeah.
So yeah, you can be mad about having independent women, but
when they have a husband who's only present maybe 1/4 of the
time, yeah, that's kind of what you have to do, you know?
Oh what a fucking asshole. Yeah.
And this show, like if you're binging this, if you're
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watching, if you're listening tous watch this show and you've
already seen the show. And even if you haven't, this is
a study in a man who is literally views himself as a
leader and as a problem solver. But all of the footage that we
have seen thus far, and I think the majority of footage we will
see is other people solving the problems while he stands around
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making comments like Yasha bringup like with all of your
womanhood, get it done like. OK, and it's fucking yellow and
blue pinstriped button up once again.
He's. In business casual like you went
to the park to eat pizza with your kids and now you're picking
pumpkins and you look like you're on the way to go close a
deal at some shitty job like. It's the ugliest 1 he has, you
know, and he wears it all the fucking time.
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This is not the first time we'veseen that faded yellow fucking
shirt. He is just gross.
But Meri didn't dilly dally. She fucking got it done.
And then she moved all 5 to 600 lbs of those fucking pumpkins
onto a scale so the pumpkin patch people could weigh them
and then back into their bins sothat they could pay for their
fucking pumpkins that they got. Do you know what I'm saying?
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Like bitch got it done. Get it done, Meri.
Yeah, just do it. Just do it, Meri.
So regardless of what our socialmedia might look like sometimes,
we are staunch Meri supporters. And you know, I need this.
I need to be reminded sometimes of the real Meri.
So right now we're giving you props, Meri, we're giving you
props. Well, I think we're just going
to continue to see her beat downmore and more.
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That's why she becomes how much she is today.
Poor Meri. Anyway, that was my seizure.
Right. Oh God, honey, are you OK?
Ally? Outside a minivan?
Like girl, girl, girl. You're a mother.
Minivans don't even have windowsthat open anymore.
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I know, I know, right? It was a different time.
You're a mother. OK, you're a mother, OK?
It's early in the day, she's only having caffeine like this
is not good. This just so our listeners at
home now, this is the earliest we have ever recorded an episode
during the day. So it's kind of weird that it's
Halloween, but whatever. Maybe we're a little punchy.
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Yes. So they have the pumpkins in
lots of vehicles and somehow getthem home and they are jumping
into their Halloween adventure at the beginning of kind of
flashbacks of, of starting this getting ready process.
When Robyn tries to give a sumMeri of what they are doing,
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there is a level of like, I don't know if they're trying to
like guide and say, well, just tell us that this is what you're
going to do today or whatever else.
Like I don't know if that's how the questions are coming across
or if it's just there's something about that's awkward
to me. And it's awkward because she
speaks really fast and super phony.
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Like, well, we got the pumpkins and then we went to the pumpkin
passion hour and have a really fun day.
Like it's just like. Oh, like just the sound bite.
The way she speaks. Like literal.
Yes, like so we did this and then we did this and then and
and and we're gonna have a really fun day and it always is
just so cheesy and corny and ridiculous and doesn't seem
genuine and. OK, OK.
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I don't know, it's not the firsttime she has seemed this way
when she's trying to give a snippet and I'm just I'm I am
paying attention, I am monitoring because again, I
maybe I feel like now she still talks really fast and then we
get to the points where she slows down her talking to come
across maybe a little bit better, but my girl.
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To counter that is times where she says things and I'm not sure
if this is a where she was like,Oh yeah, everyone talks about
how great I'm doing joining their family, but oh, and
everything's going fine with everyone joining my family, you
know. And so like she says these
comments that are in a way like not big red flag.
Like I could I could easily see someone being like, well, we
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talk about how great I'm joiningyour family, but you're great at
joining mine. Like if you don't know the
future you I wouldn't that didn't stick out to me.
I'm sure the first time I saw this but now I'm like, that was
the real Robyn right? And the rest of this is
bullshit. Right.
And there is a moment at the very end of the episode that
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will acknowledge that too. But I hadn't thought about it
this way when I was watching it until you said it just now.
I also think that there is a point that Janelle maybe makes a
comment about, oh, and Robyn's kids getting to carve pumpkins
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with so many siblings or something.
And I think Robyn kind of tried to dial it back, like, well,
it's not the first time they've fucking carved pumpkins, OK?
They've carved, you know, it's, they've carved pumpkins before.
It's just that they it's a different experience because
there's more people around them.Like, I think she's trying to
still be like, my kids had no kid childhood.
Like they've done this before. This isn't totally new to them,
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but there's a justification of like, oh, this family's fixed
everything and it's like, well, no, they had a life before, too.
Like, you know, so ties into kind of some of that Ness where,
yeah, she is distinguishing things a little differently and
as we know continues to do so. You know, I can't really speak
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to the authenticity of the otherwives with with what we've seen
thus far in their interview moments and they're talking head
moments. But it does seem to be like
Robyn has more of a variety of she does have her like what
people want to hear and what I need to say moments.
And then like real moments that come up where I feel like
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Christine kind of gives us a lotof real moments.
I feel like Christine consistently, even though we are
only at season 2 episode 4 has seemed pretty unhappy or has
voiced her unhappiness or a disappointment her or her
feelings that aren't positive about things quite consistently.
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And so it's interesting to just,I don't know that anything big
happened in this episode about this, but we're just seeing
these things start to fall. That's.
Exactly it. That's exactly it.
Yep. Yep.
When they're transitioning into the next day for getting ready
for actual Halloween, I'm Oh yeah, 'cause I remember they
were moving the pumpkins inside and the, the bottom read out
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said Halloween day and I was like, Oh my God, I love it
because like, OK, so yesterday was the day before Halloween and
now it's the good thing we know that.
OK, important deets is not Halloween day.
And then there's a part where Christine is talking about how
Halloween is her favorite holiday.
And the other wives are like, really like what?
And I thought it was surprising that they were surprised because
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they, other than Robyn, have been a part of her life for a
long time. And everyone that I know where
Halloween is their favorite holiday.
Like you kind of know that because of most, I don't want to
say most people, but a lot of people tend towards the more
traditional holidays. And so if someone's a big
Halloween person and I as a homo, I am surrounded by gays
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where it's like it's the gay Christmas.
Like Halloween is like the thing.
So when I see people that are like, I'm all about Halloween, I
tend to note it if they're switching up, if they're not a
gay man. And so I thought it was
interesting that she was all about Halloween and no one else
seemed to recognize that. And then also I'm kind of
scratching my chin because I'm like, really Christine, like,
what's your favorite movie? Like Freddy Krueger?
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Like I just kind of like she's so Disney that I'm like the
Disney. Halloween is your favorite
holiday. Disneyland.
Trap dead Fred. I feel like maybe there's a lot
of things about this that just don't, I don't want to say don't
make sense, but let me back up for one second.
Yeah. Do you think that there's a
level of they record mostly on weekends?
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Do you think that maybe like, well, I'm just thinking that it
seems to be like a lot of these times seem to be like this was
what we did for our weekend, right?
Like we're going through becausethey probably don't do a lot of
stuff weeknights and go out places and do things.
How would you get people in a car and time to get back for
bed? I don't know but like it just
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seems like maybe their weekday goes normal kids school Ness
whatever and then maybe come Friday we jump into a weekend
and that's when we record. Particularly at this point with
so many kids being in public school, I imagine you're right
because getting all of those kids out of school for filming
would be weird in public school.So I think you're right.
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I. Think like there's some sort of
at least boundary or limit there.
It seems like maybe. And if that's the case, I'm just
like giving like good job props so that maybe you can balance
when your kids lives are taken up by this and have still some
normalcy on the rest of the time.
So I because it just seems like they don't, we don't see a lot
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of maybe the everyday weekday stuff, you know, but maybe they
film it and they just don't showit too.
But I just had that thought out of nowhere so.
I think that that's true at this, at least at this point,
right? Season 2, episode 4, we don't
see a lot of everyday ordinary life.
Everything has been revolved around events at this point.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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But yeah, the Halloween thing isinteresting.
I the one thing that drove me nuts was particularly that it
wouldn't be the afternoon of Halloween that I was trying to
come up with everyone's costumesand what we're going to do and
going and buying supplies. Those things might have been
handled a few days before. Like they're going to get the
makeup and the Hairspray and thethis and the that and apparently
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some egg drop soup for Maddie. But but other than that, they're
just running around like crazy to get things.
And I'm like, I especially with the amount of people you're
trying to do this for, I would have had that in waiting.
But that's just me. I also wonder about with
productions, with TV shows, I think often times production
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companies want there to be things that they're filming.
So maybe they were even encouraged to not do anything
for Halloween until the day of by a producer because they want
to see them doing this stuff. Totally.
Totally, I'll give them credit for that.
I just think they're ill prepared.
No, that could be, but this is it.
It also lines up with our understanding of the Browns in
general. Like, they're not great
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planners. They don't follow things
through. Like there's a whole list of
things. So yeah, it wouldn't, it
wouldn't surprise me at all to see them out on Halloween,
shopping for Halloween things like, right?
Boy, boy, I don't. Did they tell us who came up
with the costumes for did we understand where this came from?
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We heard many times about what they are.
Well, this is it. I don't think anyone brought up
where the elements and all of the whatever came from, but we
did hear it multiple times throughout the episode.
I do think it's funny because before they started jumping into
the getting ready in the costumes and all of that, they
are carving pumpkins outside, right?
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Oh, yes, I had the note of the costumes before the pumpkin
fight, but then yes, that just because I think they said it,
but then they went right to the pumpkins.
Yeah. Once again, they are they're
they're back and forth and back and forth.
So while we might sound like we don't know what we're talking
about, it's because literally they're back and forth all
episode. And we don't know what we're.
Talking about well and that, butthis is just a this is how they
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this is how they roll. So it's like they're at home and
they're going to be carving pumpkins.
But before they start carving pumpkins, they start telling us
about their costumes. So like, OK, that makes sense.
I thought it was funny because Kody, before they get into the
details of that, there's a moment where Kody says he's
going as Sammy Hagard as a look,and Leon asks who's Sammy
Hagard? And Kody acts so like, are you
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kidding me? And I'm going like, I don't know
who Sammy Hagard is. I know he's a musician in a
band. Do you know who Sammy Hagard is?
I am pretty sure I do. But I'm going to do a couple of
things because I think first andforemost, I don't think it's
Sammy Hagard. I think it's Sammy Hagar.
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Sammy Hagar, yes, thank you. And it is, Oh no, I don't think
I knew because. I'm going like I'm too young and
hip like you. Know and Halen Van Halen.
Yes. Sorry, yes, I was it.
That was at the end of the paragraph because there was a
bunch of other stuff. I don't think I'd have gotten
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the band right. I probably would not have gotten
the band right, but Sammy Hagar.Hagar So have I heard this name
before? Of course I'm familiar that this
person, Sammy Hagar, is in a rock band.
If someone was like, what's the aesthetic?
What's the vibe? What's to look for Halloween?
I'd be like, I, I don't know, unless it's like Kiss and then
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like the Van Halen, like the like 80's rock band.
Look outside of that, like, I don't know.
So apparently Kody was, you know, a little upset that Leon
didn't know who Sammy Hagar is. And it's like, well, I don't
know, so whatever. We do, we all do that with our
parents. They don't know who we are.
We don't know, you know, whatever my kids are, you don't
know who this is. I'm like, no, I have no idea
what you're talking about. It's that's just just usual
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typical shit. But it's grosser coming from
Kody for sure. Well, this is it.
Everything's grosser coming fromKody.
They cut you outside and the kids are all carving up their
pumpkins, doing their things, stabbing eyes and carving out
teeth. And it's cute because some of
the younger ones have like, marker scribbles and the older
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ones are being a little more precise.
And you can tell people are expressing their individuality
based on how they approach theirpumpkins, which is always fun.
I was so distracted and I said to you, make note of the Fajita
Cantina sign on the on the on the garage.
So outside there in the backyardfilming kids and parents doing
pumpkins. There is a sign on the garage
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that says Fajita Cantina outside.
It's like outside. OK, sounds good.
Maybe you wouldn't think much ofit.
Well, Kody sold signs. That's what he did back in the
day, was he would sell signage to companies or to businesses.
And I would love to know what the significance of Fajita
Cantina is as a sign. OK.
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Listeners, this is it. The reason that I'm pointing it
out was because I saw it online somewhere, like someone being
like, oh, the Fajita Cantina sign, ha ha, chuckle, chuckle.
But I don't know what that means.
So what does it mean? Well, is that what is the
regular Mexican restaurant that they frequent?
Oh gosh. Well, in what state?
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I guess because the one that I'mthinking of is in the future.
It's not in Lehigh. So I don't mean they don't go to
restaurants now, you know. So Fajita Cantina is something
he sells signs and there's a commercial outdoor sign on a
garage in their backyard. So I would love to know the
story behind Fajita Cantina. I would also like to point out
that the only vibe, the only cantina vibe in this backyard is
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that sign. Oh yeah.
There is not a red chair. There is not an umbrella.
There is not an additional pieceof decor.
No, there is nothing. There is nothing that says
celebratory spicy dinner. Enjoy yourself.
Not even some tacky pepper lights.
No, no, no, no, no. No.
So just the sign on the garage. No explanation.
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Yeah, next to the like, because it's the end of October, the
like, dead leaf trees, right? And the brown grass, right.
And the Yeah. Also it's fucking large.
Like this is a large sign. Like if I'm thinking of like
bottom to top, I mean I'm going at least two, but maybe 3 feet.
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Yeah, yeah. OK.
And so like when this neon sign is lit up.
Yeah. What happens in that yard?
Well, no. And I and I don't know that we
ever see anything with the sign lit up.
I'm not sure that they have it operational, but what it what?
It's just a jarring little moment because it is clearly a
commercial grade neon sign hanging on their garage in their
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backyard that has nothing else in it but dead plants.
Correct. Yes.
So go Kody Brown. Wait to hear more.
Can't wait to hear more. Yeah, as they're doing the
pumpkins. There is.
And just. First of all, of course, like,
even doing it with a handful of kids, it's torture.
It's fun. The kids love it.
It's great. It's fucking disgusting.
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It's a mess. Everything's sticky, it's gross.
Even the kids are like, well, itis quite a messy project, but
it's still pretty fun. And then they're just squishing
all the shit in their hands as you do, you know?
And I think it, I feel like it was Gwendolyn, but I think that
could be. Me.
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Yes, I'm like, Oh my God, no, mydear God, don't do it, you know?
It was crazy. In another Logan moment, he's
like, everyone, take your innards, take your guts, put
them in the bucket. Like, he's like directing the
kids like. Please can I not have to be the
fucking person to clean? This up.
You know, Oh my gosh. And they do seem to all be
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having fun. So that was my general Ness of
the pumpkin carving moment. I almost wow, wow.
OK, there were some bad syllables there.
All the kids are having fun whenthey're carving their pumpkins,
which is super great. You did it.
Cum cum dump, cum dump pumpkin straight up like what the fuck?
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So yeah. So pumpkins were great.
They cut to, of course, a a panic moment.
Oh, and people are looking around in Meri's oh, Meri, oh
Meri Quake and Cherry. Oh, and then it's like Kody
admits to accidentally dial but dialing 911.
So this gives them their moment to be like, Oh yes, the
investigation and oh, the 911. You know, the kids have a
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different perspective and awareness of police now because
of the investigation. They call us and they say they
saw a policeman on the street. You're not a black man, OK?
I mean. But it's true.
I mean, literally it is. It's like made-up, like the
parents are making it like this thing and like maybe, maybe the
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kids. I mean, I I don't want to like
discount their actual fear, but my God, they take every they do.
They take every opportunity. Someone butt dials 911 and it
gives the production company an opportunity to like slow down
the footage and marry to go liketurn and look in slow motion in
the backyard. And it's like my God, someone
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butt dialed 911. And now we can talk about how
the cops make us feel unsafe. Thank you.
Totally totally. It's just so cringe for this
white family in Utah. OK, they are polygamous but
like, give me a break. And, you know, while I maybe
don't understand the laws and how they can apply them to this
situation, there are laws that exist that maybe he's not
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legally married to all of these women, right?
But there's laws that say you can't be.
So it's it's still a thing that they're going to investigate.
Apparently we get past that, I guess maybe a little bit.
But sorry that all your other people in this fucking cult were
creepers and think that you're all pedophiles and evading
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taxes. Like, I'm sorry other people did
that to you. But like you chose this life and
now you have to deal with these consequences.
And thus far we have seen no consequences.
We have only heard that there's an investigation now, mind you
if. So the police are scary.
Now, mind you, if Meredith Vieira was on NBC being like,
Chris is being investigated by the local police, I would be
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like freaking out. So I get it.
But it's just so cringe at everyopportunity.
It's like a cell phone goes off and like I thought it was a
police alarm and it's like, Oh my God, it was a cell phone.
Anyway, but they were all on thecouch having a little moment
again, talking about all of these things.
So a while back we had been tracking the separation between
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their bodies on the couch. Yes.
OK, Yeah. And this is different because
they're kind of rearranged and maybe a different pattern than
what I'm used to. I think there was Christine on
the left and then Meri. Yes, and maybe that's pretty
normal. Kody, then Janelle and Robyn,
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now Christine, Meri, Kody, Janelle ass cheek to ass cheek.
Robyn not touching Janelle. Wow, I didn't pay too much
attention to that, but I do knowwhat you're saying.
Yes. I wonder how much Janelle and
Robyn up until this point have spoken to each other.
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Right. Like, I suspect they are
probably the ones that speak theleast.
Yeah. And probably.
I mean, I don't even know why other than, well, I shouldn't
say I don't know why that is just my assumption is that
they're probably the ones that are least comfortable.
Like in the sense that how Christine seems uncomfortable
with Robyn. She would no, no, no, no,
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everything's fine and like, oh, we're good.
Or like she would do something to make that happen.
Janelle's just like, probably not engaged.
I could see it being Janelle in that sense too, but I think more
So what I'm like. The actual visual of it was
interesting, right? Because, you know, Robyn is very
little. She's very little.
OK, and so she could have scooched and still been touching
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Janelle, but she probably couldn't like sit back because
then there's gonna be kind of the almost falling over into
Ness a little bit, right? And so I think there's two
things. Number one, she wants to be sure
that she can sit out and up and however she wants to sit.
But maybe there is an uncomfortableness in there
relationship and that's why not because the rest of them seem
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fine just squished in and they all, even with all the kids and
stuff, they're all kind of you probably on couches in the
house, squished in. Yeah.
And Robyn just was not comfortable with that vibe as my
guess is that that was not. She didn't think it would make
her look as nice as she should and she was just going to be
this, you know? Yeah.
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Tall as a board, whatever. Fucking shit on the edge of.
The couch. Yeah, so interesting.
I just want to keep tracking that every now and again because
there's there's definitely some dynamic shifts that happen that
could tell some stories of thesefucking lunatics.
Oopsie. Oopsie.
So then after they do the pumpkin things and they line
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them up and they're all cute andthey're like, oh look at our
pumpkins and blah blah blah, blah, and that's all fabulous.
Then we cut into later in the day where they're getting ready
to go, goes to say camping, are they getting ready to go trick
or treating? And of course they have to show
Kody sitting in a chair and Christine's like curling up his
hair and putting it in a rubber band or whatever.
And so he starts talking about getting ready for his costume or
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his whatever he's going to be for Halloween.
Yeah, and I guess maybe there was some confusion because he
didn't really know what he was going to be or something.
Yeah, he said he was going to bethe sun.
Yeah. And then Christine corrects him
and says, no, you're going to beman.
So what was referenced earlier in the episode and has come up,
and we haven't talked about it actually yet, is that the four
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wives are going to be the four elements, Earth, wind, water and
fire. But then Kody says he's going to
be the sun, which is so it just makes me cringe because it's
like you're such a fucking idiot.
Like earth, wind, water and firethe sun.
Like fuck you, he's just. Such an idiot.
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He's just such a fucking idiot. So as he's saying it, I'm just
like, you're so fucking dumb. It's like saying that you're
going to be a rock. Like, what are you fucking
talking about? Like it's obviously Earth.
Like he's such an idiot. So then Christine is twirling
his hair and putting it in rubber bands or whatever as he's
sitting on this chair. It reminds me a little bit of
like little kid getting their hair cut.
Like he's sitting in a chair andshe's doing his hair and she
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corrects him. Like she's like, no, the concept
is that you are man like. He's not going to be the son,
she literally goes. He's not.
Going to be the son. The concept is that you are man
because there are the four elements and that you are man.
And now to me, this just seems reasonable.
Like we are man, we are human. It's not about being male.
It's about being a human. We are man.
There are four elements. That's what it is.
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Seems logical. But of course he can't let it
be. So he's like, yeah, I'm just a
powerless man controlled by these four elements, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she just rolls her eyes.
And she did not. It was not a playful eye roll.
It was the loudest eye roll I'veever heard.
Yeah, it was so loud. It was I mean and literally like
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any wife that just the husband says something that is like you
are ridiculous and shut the fuckup right now.
That's what that was and it was hilarious.
There was also a moment to it oflike his hair situation and his
makeup and stuff took longer than anybody else's, right?
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Like all day. Kody's getting his shit done and
it's. Like my hair always looks weird.
So this is just another thing and it's like you're so
disgusting. He is so disgusting.
It was so disgusting. You know, the ladies, I'll give
them a little bit of credit, OK?So of course Meri was fire,
which I thought was hysterical, and she had like this sprayed up
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red hair and whatnot. I mean, it wasn't anything
crazy. Their costumes were, you know,
poor family. Cheap, but still okay, right?
I got yes overall understood what they were doing.
Yes, face painting was. Okay, on a budget.
On a budget? So Meri was fire, of course.
Janelle was Earth. Yeah.
And so she had mountains. Earth Mother.
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Yes, she. Yeah.
Well, that was a That was a titty.
I was just grabbing my breast. Yes, Earth Mother.
See it? Yeah.
So we had a titty grab. Janelle has mountains over her
eyes and then gets draped with glands.
Fake fake greenery. Mother Earth.
And it worked. It was fine.
Mountains over her eyes. She didn't.
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Yeah, like on her forehead. They like painted mountains like
that. That's what was on her face.
Oh God. There does happen to be some
confusion between apparently everyone which Christine and
Robyn were because one was air and 1 was wind.
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And Robyn is water. Oh, sorry.
Water. Yeah.
So air was Christine. Yeah.
And Robyn was water. The kids, none of the kids could
get that right. They thought that beach mom was
the other thing. And because.
They're both blue people always do the.
Blue, right? And they just had little swirly
sparkles around their eyes and there wasn't really anything
different ish about their costumes that I noticed.
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I didn't note it anyway. But it is funny because none of
the kids, literally they go through the couch sessions and
the spotlight moments with all the kids to ask what mom was
what and none of them knew who was water and who was wind.
None of them. Which is great.
But I mean, yeah, it turned out fine.
They are talking with the kids and I think it was paid in.
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Did you hear this part? He goes, I don't know what I was
for Halloween. Yeah, some of the kids were
like, it did feel a little like.They put a mask on me and I wore
some clothes like, I don't fucking know.
I don't know what I want. We went to the toy room, we went
to the basement. We found some stuff and put it
on and that's that. Some of the kids were like, you
know, I'm a vampire and I'm a whatever.
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Now. I, I was wondering in my mind,
God, I was wandering through thedesert of my mind.
And I thought for a moment, like, it's interesting that this
family participates in holidays in the way that they do in
comparison to other fundamentalists that I know of
from my own childhood and from other things online or in the
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media or in general, where, for example, let's say, who are the
Jehovah's Witnesses, right? Jehovah's Witnesses going to
school, living near Jehovah's Witnesses where they don't
participate in not. Even a birthday.
Not birthdays, not anything like.
Celebrate anything. And I'm just now we are not a UB
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experts blah blah blah blah and.Thank you for those.
Thank you for listeners that have have acknowledged that we
truly are not. X that we are not X.
Thank you. We appreciate.
It yes, for literally giving us five stars and being like it's
not their vibe, like that's not their thing, like appreciate
that, but it is something of note and maybe something that we
will be educated through in the future by our listeners, by you
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at home about how it is that thethis fundamental family that's
all about this cult slash religion.
And I wonder if other AUB peopleare doing Halloween vibes or if
that's just like a brown thing. Now they can do their own.
Everyone's free to be you and me, but it's interesting how
people label things with their religion or talk about the you
(54:22):
know, Kody's language. All of these wives language is
so driven by their faith and they're this and they're that.
OK, So does your faith really say dress up as vampires and
goblins and whatever? Probably not.
And you're choosing not to. That's great.
You know, OK, just putting it out there that I think it's
interesting that they participate in so many secular
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things when they themselves are supposedly not secular.
I guess I hadn't even thought about it that way, but it's a
good point. I also just want to acknowledge
that my T-shirt yesterday said you be you and I'll be me.
And so I support that vibe and Idon't know, I definitely the
Jehovah's Witness Ness and then,you know, just even other like
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like the Jewish traditions and it's not Christmas and stuff
like that, right? But.
And Kody does Co. Opal in the Jewish faith will
still celebrate Christmas because it's traditional, you
know, like there's been, well, it's traditional and different.
Any who you know what I'm saying?
Some people, some people mold those lines a little bit and I
think that's totally fine, however they choose to.
But I guess I don't know about their particular faith.
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So if you comment, so number one, guys, if you do comment and
tell us something, Chris will tell me about it and we'll know
about it then so we can talk about it next time because you
know, like we do read them and know what you're telling us.
And then it does help put piecestogether.
And sometimes we're like, wow, we were just, we're idiots about
that. But now somebody has shared with
us and we know better. Well and Kody, throughout this
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show we will see him Co opting Jewish traditions and Jewish
holidays into their family. Being like this isn't part of
our religion. I just really think that it
speaks to me and my relationshipwith the creator blah blah blah.
So fair enough. And I'm not sure.
Flexibility in religion wouldn'tbe terrible, know what I'm
saying? Well, yeah, especially when it
works for you and what you want to do isn't that convenient.
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But yeah, I just thought it was interesting how many holidays
this family participates in thatmaybe their cohorts don't, but
I'm. Curious about that now.
So Dayton's chilling. Also, Dayton's Halloween costume
I'm pretty sure was a white button up in a red tie.
Yeah, was he a pirate? Maybe there was something on his
face, I don't know, I don't mind.
But he was sitting on the couch and one of the other kids
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dropped Truly in his lap. And so he's sitting there and
he's holding Truly. And she's just, they're kind of
looking at each other. And she goes, like, she starts
crying. And Dayton looks down.
He goes, she hates me. It was the cutest thing ever.
She hates it was the cutest thing.
He was so defeated. He was just like, he was like,
OK, we're gonna try. We're gonna try.
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She does. She hates me.
I missed that, that's cute. I thought that was adorable.
And he totally whispered it under his breath too.
Like it was just funny. Robyn, after they discussed
Kody's drop dead Fred hair. That was really man, that took
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hours to do basically just to make his hair stand straight up.
Like, yeah, I don't know, but Kody referenced the 5th or
sorry, Robyn referenced, yeah that there is a fifth wife and
it is Kody's hair. So we.
Love which we have we talked about breaking news.
We broke this on that podcast. We broke that on this podcast.
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I love it. I like it's not breaking news,
but we talked about his hair being his fifth wife long ago.
So thanks for catching up, really.
Before it happened 15 years ago.Right.
Yeah, right. The other I just, I don't want
to bring any of these costumes up ever again.
But there was a moment where allfour of them were standing.
Five of them were standing in the living room and doing a
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presentation of their costumes for production.
And it was gross. They were so awkward.
It was so stupid. They were.
And even at the end of it, they all realized how cheesy they
were. Yeah, they said that was silly.
That was cheesy. That was ridiculous.
And I'm like, thank the Lord Jesus.
Yep. They at least recognized it.
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Amen. Amen.
And Kody does look ridiculous. There's stills I've seen of this
look when I didn't know what it was from on the Internet and
that turns out it was from this Halloween special where his
yellow and red makeup creating shapes on his face I think.
He only let him show it once. I think they only showed the
actual picture of his face one time when they were doing that.
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And then his hair standing up all over, which was from curling
it and spraying it and then taking it out, blah blah, blah.
He looked like a disaster. And like, that's fine, whatever.
But yeah, he was supposed to be man or something.
It just whatever. Kody loves to have his hair and
makeup done. But one note that I have that I
thought was so cute was Savannahwas so stinking cute.
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This entire episode. They kept cutting away to her
reactions and her moments and her thoughts and her whatnot.
And I don't know if she's 65, I don't know how old she is, but
she's very young. And she is so cute.
Like if I was spending time withthem, I would always be like
watching her to be like, when isshe going to have another
moment? Because she's so cute and so
funny and playful. And at that time in a childhood
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where they're like free, like, they haven't been like burned
yet by life too much. She just is so cute.
Can you imagine it actually being Halloween night?
So I do trick or treaters. You probably haven't done trick
or treaters much, right? Like, but I'll hand out the
candy, right? That amount of children running
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up to your home at one time screaming.
Can you imagine? It was a little charring just
watching it on TV. Like I was like, Oh my God, if
there were like 10 kids yelling drink or train, I'd be like, Oh
my God, shut the fuck up. But.
But in the spirit of the holiday, you, you do.
But I was just like, oh, my God,that seems overwhelming, you
know, Like, it was a lot. Holy crap, Yeah.
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But they did have fun. It was, it was great.
It didn't seem like they probably let them go an
extremely long distance because the bag full of candy wasn't
super big full. Like I think they hit like a
block and a half. Yeah, probably, you know.
And oh God, this is so terrible to say.
But like I don't know if any of the kids had like the orange
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pumpkins. I feel like some of the bags
might have been like Halloween bags.
Some of them were literally likeplastic grocery bags I feel
like. Pillowcases.
I thought they were pillowcases.Well, some people maybe had
pillowcases, but I think Aurora had like a white like plastic
shopping bag. So that kind of sucks that some
of the kids like I luckily my parents had specific things for
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trick or treating. I don't know if they bought
them, I don't know. But to go out with like a
plastic throwaway shopping bag, I was like, oh, that sucks, but
there's also need looking. Before that, but yeah, you know,
also you have to take the pill. So if you bring the orange
buckets, like you have the buckets, you have to take a
pillowcase or a bag to dump in. Otherwise you don't get very
far. Those plastic buckets.
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They're pretty small. Exactly.
So you have to double up. So I mean, it's a, it's a
strategory. It's a strategory, yeah.
And it could just be, who knows?Maybe their candy was emptied
into the plastic bag for some reason and I'm going or crying
in tear for no reason. I want to make note, an
editorial note. This is the first use of the
clown music. Now the clown music this happens
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I totally. Registered.
It weird. It's it's like they went through
their royalty free songs and they were like, oh, this one
sounds great. They use it again in this show.
It has burned into my mind wherethere's like a moment of Kody
doing something and it's like it's literally circus music.
(01:02:02):
Yes, I recognize the music towards the I mean, we're
nearing the end. Certainly it was crazy.
It didn't. It's almost like you want them
to calm down the craziness a little bit, but instead I'm
going like, oh God, I am about to seize, you know, like it's.
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It's like they're cartoon eyes. They're like making fun of their
own thing. It's very weird.
It is too much and the reason that it sticks out to me is
because it is burn into my memory from the first time of
watching this show, hearing thislike clown music giving like why
are they playing it? And it will happen again.
And I don't know. I feel like I should even record
it and just put it on to be likethis is what it fucking sounds
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like. You should.
You should. We basically see the kids going
door to door at some time, pouring out candy when they get
home, blah blah blah. Typical Kody.
Raiding their candy. He wants the squishy candy.
Let me get all that of. Course he doesn't want
chocolate. Fuck you, Kody.
And then to wrap up the episode,they are summarizing once again,
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Robyn and the kids joining the family.
There's that moment where Robyn is talking about that and she
says it feels like it feels likedestiny, like we all should have
been together from the beginning.
This is interesting because thisis what ends up being her
tagline moving forward. I wanted to talk about the
taglines earlier in this episodebecause we brought it up last
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episode or the episode before and I was like, we should talk
about the taglines. But then as soon as they started
playing in this episode, I'm like, these are not the taglines
they have for seasons coming up.Like they just have lines pulled
right now. Maybe Meri's is I I don't even
remember, but not the other wives and certainly not Robyns.
Kody is doing the love should bemultiplied, not divided, which
we talked about in the last episode.
But this is where Robyns clip itfeels like destiny, like we all
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should have been together since the beginning comes from this
talking head at the end of this episode.
Gotcha. So when once those seem lined
up, we will dissect them a little bit more.
But Robyn's being, you know, very like, yeah, we're
acclimating. Well, everyone else's we're
acclimating well. Kumbaya Halloween, no one was
possessed or anything like that.She adds another really
interesting line at the end though where she says I couldn't
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have picked a better family, which to me is a level of I'm
tired of hearing how they pickedme.
I'm going to start talking abouthow I picked them because this
shit goes both ways. Interesting.
And so it was the second exampleto me of where she was starting
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to try and control her narrative.
Shocking, but I don't think she ever gets the narrative
controlled in the way she wants to.
However, right now it's just more about what she has done and
not. They've accepted me so
wonderfully, but I picked the right family.
I did this, you know. Yeah, yeah.
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True Robyn. Yeah.
And I, yeah, I feel like the only narrative she ends up
controlling really is with Kody.Like she ends up controlling the
narrative with him but everyone else sees what's going.
On she gets in control of that one and then everybody else
fucks off, you know? Mustard seed and shit stain.
I'm starting with my shit stain,and I'm giving my shit stain to
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poor Dayton. I'm giving him the shit stain
for wanting Meri to give him that pumpkin and then he
couldn't hold it. So it's lame, it's stupid.
He's a kid and he fucked up and they filmed it, whatever.
But if you want to hold a pumpkin, you need to be able to
hold a pumpkin, so I'm giving itto Dayton.
I'm, I'm shocked, I'm caught offguard.
But you know what? If more people had talked to
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Dayton like that back then. If more people would have
harassed him as a child, he would be a better person today.
I don't think that's true, but Ijust honestly feel like that was
the most cringey moment to me. Oh, other than Mckelty bouncing
in the minivan. So.
Well, I feel like I guess if we're just throwing out shit
stains to kids left and right, Iwill give it to Mckelty for not
being able to control her body. I don't know like.
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And so, shortly after being thrown off a horse, that girl's
a mess. There are moments for her like
every episode, aren't there? She's a mess.
She's a. Real mess, I love it.
We're only getting, we're only seeing the beginning of this hot
mess. I love it.
Well also if my childhood was recorded.
OK, Hot Mess Express. Yeah, then you'd be somebody
else's shit staying on a podcastjust like this.
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Right. You know, the the like our
videotaped childhood moments, like the one that is ingrained
in my brain, and there's not a lot of them.
OK. Is when we were in the Black
Hills and my sister, I'm walkingdown, I have a twin.
I'm walking through the Black Hills and my sister's walking
behind me and she goes. There goes the girl who never
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brushes her hair. Oh my God.
She was like 7 and I'll never forget it.
Oh no. Was this captured on footage?
On film? It probably.
Still exists somewhere. It's probably been moved into
today's technology, maybe not. See all the footage of me as a
child is pristine. Yep, I believe it.
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So mustard seed, I got to give it to Meri.
I got to give it to Meri. Meri, Quake and Cherry, how does
your pumpkin patch grow? Because she's like, let's just
get the fucking pumpkins in the wheelbarrow and get it done.
And I appreciate that about Meri.
Now, Meri, everyone, you got to keep me.
I can't love too much on Meri. So I'm giving her my mustard
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seed and that's it. I know I'm like beating myself
up. You do this every time you talk.
Piles is definitely about her. You're I know, but I know I
don't really mean it. Don't.
Let me get away with this, kids.But my mustard seed is merry
this week. Absolutely.
Well, I think that's very generous of you.
Again, thank you. I am going to give my mustard
seed to Christine because that bitch twirled Kody's hair for
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fucking hours. Oh my God.
And she didn't even smack him inthe face once that they showed
on TV, so that was pretty good. Which he did deserve.
But the loudest eye roll in history, Yes.
And yes, I fully support it. So, Christine, thank.
You. Oh, you're right.
We do support that very much. It was a beautiful.
Moment please keep it up. Yes, absolutely.
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cute today. I think it was.
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We were, we were pretty positivetoday because we just saw a lot
of cute kid stuff and only a fewinfuriating moments from Kody
Brown. Yep.
And you know, All in all, we survived, so it was great.
I know, Dayton, I'm sorry for giving you the shit stain.
I just had to give you the shit stain.
I'm not. I'm not.
Sorry, right? We are not sorry about the
Mckelty, but Dayton's sorry. You really need to know how to
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hold a pumpkin, and I'm sure you've grown and changed a lot
since you were this child. Was like I was 8.
I know he's like, you guys suck.It's like, yeah, kind of true.
All right, everyone. Well, we will see you on the
flip side. Take care of yourselves.
Bye bye.