Sister Wives S2 E5 - Wife Number Three Hits Sin City - My Sister Wives Podcast

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Hello world, welcome to my Sister Wives podcast.
I'm Chris. And I'm Allie, we're long time
friends who had no idea we were both watching the TLC trainwreck
reality show Sister Wives. Join us as we rewatch Sister
Wives, maybe have a drink or two, and share what useless
information and insights we can provide.
Listen to us two deadbeat losersjudge the Brown family.

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That's us all right. See you on the.
Flip side. Let me call you sweetheart.
I'm in love with you. What does the nanny do?
OK, so we're done. Goodbye.
You. Shut it off.

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Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim.
Sweetie. Just look at the mountain.
That's what you saw. That day, just a knife in the
kidneys over all these years andthe sacrifices that I made to
love you. So fuck this show.

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That's where I'm starting. It's fuck this show so much.
Fuck Sister Wives season 2 episode 5 Wife number three hit
Sin City. Boy, this one put you through
the rear. This one has me in my field I.
Guess I can't wait to hear all of them.
I just am. I'm a little disturbed.

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I can see. I'm a little disturbed, yeah, by
the broad sweeping statements and things that mean things that
are covered as if it's like we're strolling through the
supermarket and we're going downthe aisle and we're picking out
whichever chips and whatever. And that's that.
And it's like, Oh my gosh. Like the entire time I was like,
Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

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Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. But in traditional fashion,
nothing really happens. And I'm coming to terms with my
choices. I'm going to have to do a lot of
evaluating later today. I'm going to be like, what are
these choices that I'm making? Why are Why are we doing this?
Why are we choosing to do this? Why are we doing this?

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Literally no one is forcing us. No one is making us it is.
Actually, just something we decided to do.
Choices, choices. So let this be a lesson to all
of you choices. I, I would like to note one
thing you said when we finished watching, you said something
like, I just kept writing, like I just kept writing things down.

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And we will get to a moment. I, I'm not going to say what it
is right now, but we will get toa moment that I realized I was
doing the same thing that I hadn't looked up and seen what
was happening right in front of me.
Because then once I saw it, I was like, Oh my God, this has
been happening the whole time and you didn't know so little
teaser there for you that yeah, there was some shit that they

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were. There was some stuff and it was
all wrapped up in this once again, nothing burger.
This whole this whole episode was the vibe was nothing Burger,
but the burger was Wagyu Wagyu. Whatever it was, it was a
burger. Right.
And so wife number three hit SinCity.

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We we, we, we start the episode.We start the episode.
So the last episode we were carving pumpkins and trick or
treating and everything was whatever.
Now there is snow. There was snow on the ground.
There is snow everywhere. It is snowing.
It is no winter. OK, Yeah, that happens.
It is what it is. Apparently Christine loves.
Vegas, Oh my God. Christine loves Vegas and that's

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how we're introduced to this episode is that Christine loves
Vegas and I didn't know this notthat we would know the wives
favorite cities, but it was a little heavy at first.
Christine loves Vegas and then she talks about how she loves
Vegas and I love Vegas and her Christine way.
And they also show Kody talking about how he loves that Vegas is

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cheap, close, easy, blah blah blah, for all the reasons that
you would think someone who geographically lives a 5678, I
don't know, however many hour drive from Vegas.
Amen 6. If we believe what they.
Say, if we believe them, right? So there was this weird intro to
the story of how Christine lovesVegas, which I didn't buy from

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the first second, and then Kody rationalizing that it's a good
place to go because it's cheap and it's easy.
And that's what they're going todo is they're going to Vegas.
And Christine, literally, Kody would say a sentence and
Christine would say I love Vegas.
And Kody would say another sentence and Christine would say
I love Vegas, I love Vegas. And like times 12, it just
continued over and over and overagain and over again.

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And it was like, we get it. I think we got it.
I think everybody is clear that Christine loves Vegas.
It's almost like bright shiny things are her thing.
Like I'm just like, Oh my gosh, like what is going on here?
It's like, is she serving the kool-aid or did she drink the
kool-aid? She's she's serving herself the
kool-aid. She's trying.
It's weird. She's trying to do both she or
they, they make it clear that this trip is for time.

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They like to have time where they can be their separate
individual families. And that's part of the intention
is to have some time just with their kids.
So that I, I guess this is the first maybe example we've seen
of Kody taking a wife and only their kids on a trip.

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I think there are other ones that happen like to Wyoming and
stuff, but we don't know any just from what we've seen.
We've only seen this one. So that seemed a little
different. It was a lot.
And yes, apparently they're veryexcited to go to Vegas.
They're packing a little bit in the beginning.
And Kody, and true Kody fashion is taking button ups and folded
dress pants and jeans on hangers.

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I didn't even notice. I love that you noticed.
That's only like. 3 seconds thatit was in there, but I was like
God damn it Kody. Totally, totally fucking.
Great. Yes, he can't help himself.
No, no, yeah. And then I guess I don't.
The only other like they showed just brief moments as they were
kind of all getting ready to leave and do their respective
things. And Meri Kody asked Meri to get

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his dry cleaning. Taken care.
Of over the weekend and she's like, yeah, not doing that,
sorry. Bye.
Not on dry cleaning duty. Like you're going away to play.
I'm not staying here to run yourfucking errands.
Exactly. Do it your damn self, which I
fucking loved. I thought that was great.
Yeah, yeah, they do a cutaway where Meri talks about Christine
and Kody leaving and how that means alone time, that they get

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in a weekend of alone time, which of course she's.
Well, my interpretation of that statement means she's viewing it
as a weekend without Kody around.
She doesn't straight out say this, but this is the the
implication is Kody's not aroundand she says that when the cat's
away, the mouse will play. No, she said.
When the cat's away, the dogs will play.
Oh, that's. Entirely wrong.

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This is it. I thought she said the statement
wrong and then I was questioningmyself.
I'm like, did I? Did I not?
But I got it right. She did not she.
Did not. When the cat's away, the dogs
will play, according to Meri. It seems almost intentional that
like when he's gone, they all get together and still do
something fun, you know? Like that.
That's a vibe too, which is great, you know?

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So well also how like there's that parents gone.
So when the mouse, when the cat's away, the mouse will play,
not the dogs, but the mouse. And the implication is that when
your parents are gone, you have fun as kids.
And so it's funny to see that dynamic with his spouses that
are like Kody's gone. We get to have fun.
Yeah, exactly. Very interesting.

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It was interesting. They kind of do more talking
Christine and Kody about their getting together and reason for
taking this trip a little bit. They have their spotlight
moment, right? Christine shares some things
that I think we've heard bits and pieces of, but maybe not

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packaged together nicely. Yeah, like she did here.
Would you agree? I agree.
It was interesting. The way she put it was that she
had been the last wife for 16 years, yes, And she had heard
and seen other polygamist families go through additions of

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new wives coming in and would hear some of the challenges that
other families had had and all of the stuff.
And Christine thought that was just ridiculous.
She couldn't believe that these families would have such a hard
time with this because you're just growing your family and why
would you not want to do that? And that's the whole point and
blah blah blah until. Yeah, until it happened to her,

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yes. Yeah, Oh my goodness, it was
crazy. She does talk about being
shocked, yes, that Kody would bring in a fourth wife and she
blankets that like shocked aboutthe whole thing like that he
would that this would even happen and that this would
happen that someone would join and then kind of like the entire
process of bringing in a fourth wife.
She was shocked by which I was shocked to hear, but you know.

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I think you just sometimes don'tknow how you're going to
actually react in those situations until those
situations are yours, right? And so she's having that
realization that like, oh, I getit now.
I see why this is complicated. I didn't expect to feel this
way. I didn't think that this would
bother me. But as it turns out, this

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bothers me. And she said it changed
everything for her. Everything, everything.
And that makes sense. And you know.
Just ear noting A marking back to when Christine talked about
how she always wanted to be the third wife.
She always wanted to be the third wife because there was a

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problem being the second wife, and the third wife neutralized
things, and so she wanted to be the third wife.
Now there's a fourth wife. Right, fucked everything up.
So interesting. She always had her plan and
people talk. Oh, she got her plan.
She got her way okay. Also, when Christine talks about
being shocked, it was interesting.
They're on the couch, or I thinkthey're on the couch, and they

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pan to Kody, and Kody looks puzzled, visibly.
Like, you know, the creased eyebrow, The furled eyebrow.
I call that the fake concern about what you're saying.
Totally fake concern. Pretending that he cares and it
registers, but right in reality he's thinking about his next
hairdo like. About what statement he's going

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to say, what word salad he's going to say.
Not ingesting anything that's coming out of her mouth.
To react to what she's saying. And it does come across as a
viewer, at least to me, as more like puzzled, like he looks
confused about what she's saying, which is an act.
And I do think it's so that he can be coming up with his
whatever he's going to say next,which I don't even remember

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because in traditional fashion, well, traditional fashion, if
you watch this show, whatever Kody said was like, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah. Who even knows?
And then they're showing footageof them in Vegas.
And I had this like, duh, momentof what you referenced just a
few minutes ago that the kids are with.
So Christine is really looking for some time with her husband

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and guess what the kids are with.
So I don't know exactly what that means.
I don't know what she asked for.I don't know how the
negotiations that happened to the point of this little
getaway. But I was a little like, based
on everything I've heard from Christine since the beginning of
this show, I think a trip alone with her husband would probably
be would be my assumption of what would be preferred over

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bringing the kids. Oh, you think so?
I well, it just struck stuck outto me that we had seen Kody and
Janelle go camping alone and that Robyn and he had gone on
their honeymoon. Meri and he had gone on their
twenty year anniversary trip andnow Christine's going on her
trip and the kids are there. I see what you're saying.

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I hadn't even considered it in that way entirely possible.
But I feel like more like she would be the one to instigate
the kids being there, maybe like, not wanting to leave truly
yet. Like, you know, something along
those lines. And you know what?
Yeah, we have ones that are old enough that can give us some
time away, but they'll have fun too.

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Like I don't know any of them are a possibility.
I could be reading too much intothat.
It could just be like we want todo our family trip.
Who knows? Our branch.
Yes, yeah. Janelle, what she says about
Christine. Yes, OK.
But right before that, OK, really quick, Kody, I think what

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Kody was thinking about saying in his interview was, you know,
again, we just really needed to get get past the investigation,
right? We need to get away from.
The investigation. Separate from the investigation.
That investigation has to keep coming up.
Yeah. OK.
So that was that, that was it. That was it.
That and then Janelle. And then Janelle.
And then Janelle, because this was talking adorable.
So good. So they are sitting there and

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Janelle is like, you know, I know Christine really needed
this time. And that's so great.
She said, you know, Christine isso immersed in my life.
And, you know, she's just does so much every day.
And then she kind of gestures toMeri and Robyn.
It's like, maybe you guys feel this too, But I don't know what

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to do without Christine here. Like, I'm losing it without
Christine here. Like, my whole world is falling
apart. But she kind of acknowledges
that actually, Robyn and Meri aren't going to have the same
feeling at all because they're not intertwined in the same way.
But Oh my goodness, for Janelle,this is a hard few days.
Yeah, she literally says my whole life falls apart when

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Christina's gone, which is so amazing.
I mean, I love that she not onlythat that's the dynamic, but
that she is transparent enough and she's aware enough and she
just owns it. She's like, yeah, I love her
example of like, what do you mean Savannah needs her hair
combed before school? Like what?
Like you don't even know that your daughter needs her hair
combed before school. Like that's so good.

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It is so good and I think that that's the reason why spoiler
alert, if you're not current in season 19, why Christine and
Janelle have remained friends throughout all of this and even
post divorces and things is because they were together in
the thick of it with lots of kids at the very same time and

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supported each other in really different ways there.
And I think that they both know that neither of them would have
gotten to where they are currently without each others
help right? Like separate from the fucking
husband that was in the mix, like they were the ones that got
themselves to where they are. And so I think that's why they
continue to have that bond. But it was really sweet of

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Janelle to give like the. I'm not trying to sugarcoat this
in any way shape or form. I am struggling because
Christine is not here to help. Yes.
You know. Like, Oh my God.
Well, and Christine and Janelle relationship, we've talked about
it before and I think there is abit of it that's predicated or
that is built on this reliance on each other.

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And that's like super important for them is like, OK, I know I
can rely on Christine to take care of these things.
So when Christine is gone, it's like holy Moses, what I have
been relying on this person to do.
And I think Christine probably feels the same way.
And that's at least an underlying thing for their
relationship because, yeah, theymight not always be best of
friends and sharing their deepest darkest secrets.
They have this thing that works for them in their everyday life

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and they can depend on each other.
And in this way that we're like talk to spoken at about how
sister wives are supposed to be yes.
And they actually do that. They do I and I, you know, I
think that maybe the one thing we would we agree on several.
The one thing we would agree on,we.
Agree on several things. I don't mean it that way.
Yeah, yeah. But one of the things that we

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can acknowledge is the fact thatif this family had done it right
and some of the the foundations that they had and when they were
doing it, I really think regardless of your views on
their religion or anything else,I think if you just look at them
as a family structure, if it hadworked the way it was supposed

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to work. And if that's what average
everyday polygamous families look like, is like these legs of
stools that balance each other and that support, you know, the
weight of all that family shit underneath, right?
Like if that's how it's supposedto work and it does, that's
great. So.

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I know, right? I mean, they had a chance.
We get examples all around. I know we get examples all
around. It's so true.
It's so true of all the things. But you know what, I guess if we
could all go back and look at our own lives and do that.
You know, it's not like we analyze ourselves in this way
too. You guys just so you're very
clear, like we do not only judgeothers, we judge ourselves to

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OK, so. Well, OK, honey, if I've heard
you say if someone made me watchmyself, I would like be like, Oh
my gosh. So I don't know.
I don't. Know no but this is what I mean
that like I would look back on my shit and be like Oh dear God
yes I could have done some things differently like they
probably today right look at some things and go Oh my gosh we
could have done some things differently yeah you know like

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even with stuff that you don't even wish the outcome was
opposite of what it was you can look back and go there are
things that could have been handled in other manners and.
Well, Christine could have, you know, learned about a few
cleaning products, and Meri could have learned to back off
on the hair, but whatever, we'reearly in the show.

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You never know, they might learnthese things.
So then we get, you know, kind of a glimpse of the road trip to
Vegas starting. The only thing I remember from
the initial beginning of it was that Christine says we're going
to be there in many, many hour. Many, many hours.
Like somebody was asking how long until we get there and

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she's like way too many to fucking tell you right now.
Like I cannot do it but can't. They had a long, long drive.
Long drive. As they do.
Yeah. And when they're doing this trip
to driving to Vegas, they do like some voice overs and some
cutaways about the cost of travel.
And Kody and Christine talk about how driving versus flying

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is like an economical choice forthem because of, obviously, cost
of tickets, the number of kids, blah, blah, blah.
Kody has to reiterate how Vegas is close.
Vegas is close. It's a great option for them
because it's right there. It's really, you know, right
there. And you know, Christine just
loves Vegas. I love Vegas.
Just always. I love Vegas.
I love Vegas. Oh my.

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She doesn't sound like that, butthat's my best Christine voice.
OK, I don't do impressions. Wow, wow.
Yes, yes, I'm going to once again say that maybe the strobe
lights really affect her. I'm not sure.
But like, my God. Cutting to other people's
interview segments during the drive and Robyn talks about
having alone time and how it's awesome that she gets to have

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some alone time. Again, she just what?
Stop it. Stop it.
Not only did I not even believe that she cares about alone time
at this. .150% she does not You're lying.
But then her like cover up of this narrative of it being
awesome. I'm like, you're like 12.
Like what's going on here? Yeah, again, she just sounded
ridiculous and I was like, why are you even speaking?

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Yeah, it. Was bad.
She also says that it would be weird to have a husband around
all the time, which I think is so funny because as we know.
The journey changes to her trying to pretty much have Kody
around all the time and then be careful what you wish for.
Well. And then pretend that she didn't
try to get Kody to be around allthe time.
Amen. Amen.

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To pretend to pretend that's notwhat she's.
That that's what she wasn't. Doing and requiring of his time.
OK. And then cut to 2025.
And by the way, for anyone who hasn't watched the show and
you're following along with us and you're just so excited about
this journey, when you cut to the future, like to current day
there, this woman has this man 24/7 in her life.

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But. Shame he is there all the live
long day and she gets to have asmuch.
She has more Kody than she oh Kody, oh Kody, oh Kody.
She has more oh Kody than anyonecould ever take.
So good for her. Sing it over here, right?

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Now, but you know, it would be weird to have a husband around
all the time, says the woman, who has never been married in a
polygamous relationship. She was married before with a
husband who was hers. They were monogamous.
Like she's so full of shit. She's a liar in a fraud.
She just. Lies in frauds she.
Just lies. In frauds all live long days.
She's lying and frauding. Goodness gracious, Janelle also

(21:20):
shared, you know that she she did, she kind of like sugar
coated it a little bit. She's like, well, it's not like
it's hard to have Kody around, but.
Yeah, oh, no, it's not a lot to have him around.
Not much, but. But I do like time with just my
kids and whatever else. And it was a very Janelle
statement. It was, yeah, not
groundbreaking, but like, OK. Well, it's like, OK, let's say

(21:42):
if we look at the scope of work you lift for your children on a
daily basis, that was me shovingall those words back in my
mouth. I'm sure you're doing a lot for
Kody. That was really great.
How you he did that though? It's like the toothpaste came
out and then he went right back in.
The gesture it. Was good, yes.
Yeah. No teeth, no shade.

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Janelle, you're not doing a lot for Kody.
Let's be real, it was funny. That's we were OK.
That's her. That's her contribution.
Yeah, Kody, sometimes when he's gone, I'm like, where's Kody?
Like, yeah, unless he's, you know, where she wants him to be,
she doesn't know where he is. It's fun to see Kody talking
about how there are a lot of Christians in Las Vegas and that

(22:24):
the Strip is really the Sin City.
Vegas has so many Christians everywhere and it's a really
Christian place. Never mind you, I don't think
he's wrong. I think there's plenty of
Christians in Las Vegas. I think there's lots of a
religion around Las Vegas, 100, call it what you want, but.
I don't know that people are like, oh, so your weekend trip

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to Vegas is centered around the Christians around Vegas?
Like that just doesn't make any sense.
I feel like it's an extra validation that's completely
unnecessary. It's a validation that, oh,
we're polygamous going to Las Vegas, but it's not like we're
going to see Strip shows and stuff like, OK, yeah, duh, OK.
I mean, maybe you could, maybe you'd like it, but.

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Yeah, I mean, what was the otherchoice?
Billings or Boise or whatever like I.
Mean it's fine. You don't have to tell us why
Las Vegas is an OK place to be. Oh, I swear, there's a lot of
Christians in Las Vegas. Christians there.
OK, OK, I try to avoid those places.
Christine Christine really lovesthe variety of things to do in
Vegas, which is true. So that's, you know, once again,

(23:28):
it's another non lie from Christine.
There's a lot of things to do inVegas.
There's food, there's shows, there's whatever you want.
I've only been there once. It was fine, you know, I mean.
Yeah, Vegas is wildly overrated,but that's just because I live a
normal life. Like I live my life while I'm
living. I don't repress myself so that I
have to take quarterly vacationsto a city where I blow all my

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money and hire prostitutes and live this crazy life.
I just try to live the life I want to live regularly.
So no tea, no shade to all you Vegas folks, but like Jesus,
Well, literally, there's Jesus in Vegas.
There's a lot of Christians. A lot of Christians, I saw some
Jesus cards on, you know, like with the stripper cards on the
street. There were some Jesus.
Finding Jesus on the strip. There sure were.

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Oh, and then they walk by and they like flap your body with
them and it's like you're violating me, don't touch me.
Then it says like find Jesus. Again, they take reasonably
priced vacations, but they do arrive to their destination.
Where they got a good deal on some hotel rooms, Kody says.
Back up. Oh.

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You said a good dill. OK, yes, a good deal.
Wow. I thought you were telling me to
back up. Like what Story needed to back
up? No, it was a good deal.
I'm just correcting you. Yes, thank you.
Thank you. It was a good deal.

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And after they checked in, they were actually offseason because
it was the offseason after. They they got a good.
Deal. They got a good deal in the
offseason and then when after they checked in they were
actually staying in what Christine was described as a
Villa Villa. So oh, I wonder if somehow
production pulled a string and got them a nice room while there

(25:13):
was no one staying at the hotel.Really weird.
You will show your. Excuse me a good deal.
Property and your logo and your rooms and your.
We'll make them take a whole walk through the property.
Property. With like by the way, this is
the next day, the next morning. It has nothing to do with

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anything but they do show them taking a walk through and
they're going through like the least they're taping them anyway
and like the least attractive area of this resort.
Yes, like by a dumpster goes in a gate.
Like why are you doing well? This is because the date when
they're showing off the the resort, the location, they have

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the traditional shots of like the pool and the rooms and the
palm trees and it's like, Oh yeah, that looks nice.
You think somebody pulled some strings?
I wonder if all of their open rooms meant that someone was
able to ask for a different room.
Because they knew they couldn't actually put on television eight
people sleeping in one room withtwo double beds, right?

(26:15):
You wouldn't actually. Do that.
Oh, you know, Kody would have sprung for 2:00 rooms.
You know there would have been 2.
Rooms right there would have been like, this is against cold.
I can't let you sleep in the air.
Yep. And production would have been
like, we can't even move. Yeah, literally productions
like, well, we're already sleeping in cars and vans in the

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parking lot, so like, if you could get us enough space to be
able to like, take a dump somewhere, that'd be great.
Oh my goodness. So yes.
But it was a pretty place. We'll give them credit.
It was a. Pretty place because they cut to
the next morning and the hotel does look nice and they
reference that it's by Lake Las Vegas, which I didn't know was a
thing. No one's ever told me to care

(26:58):
about that. Well, did you see it, I mean.
Granted, I do live where there are lakes so it's.
Yeah, it was. Lake in the middle of gravel
pits, you know, I mean, it's desert, whatevs, but like.
It's a hole with some water in the desert.
It was not that beautiful. They did do some rock skipping
well. This is it, Kody had to point
out. You know, I grew up on a farm

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and so I know how to skip rocks.And he had to showboat to his
own family. He was a pro rock skipper and
then Christine was like, oh if only I had known that when I
first met you, it really would have sealed the dull.
So that was moving. It was very touching to watch

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Kody throw rocks into a hole in the desert with some water in
it, but you know, he was amazingat that moment.
He was nurturing that marriage, nurturing that marriage.
That's what he said. He's nurturing every marriage.
Watering that mustard seed? Yes, back in Lehigh, Meri is

(28:03):
coordinating a bowling outing, so apparently bowling is a thing
to do for people. I've been bowling, I get it.
Have you been bowling a. Couple times.
Right, so they are trying to getthe kids in the cars to go
bowling. This is my favorite moment from
their transition to the bowling alley is that some Meri goes who

(28:24):
wants to ride with me? And like multiple people were
like me, me and like I'll ride with you Meri.
And then they showed Robyn goingwho wants to ride with me, and
no one raised their hands. No way.
Yes, one unread. I missed that.
They were getting ready to go and Meri's like, who wants to
ride with me? And it's like, yay, then Robyn

(28:44):
and cricket, cricket. And then they showed like
Dayton, like hugging her, like, no, I'm coming with you, mom,
like sympathy hug. Yeah.
Do you know I missed it? And the reason I missed it was
because right before that, Meri had been talking about the
organized bowling excursion. Yeah.
And she said. So I decided to take the kids

(29:05):
that were left behind. Left.
Yes, Left behind and. I was like.
And she says it all laughy jokey.
Like I'm not saying this mean yeah, but you said left behind.
Like if you pulled that out, it would be quite a sound bite.
Oh, the kids that were left behind.
I think I was trying to fully catch how she phrased it.

(29:26):
Yeah, Because I was like, but I'm sad because I really would
have liked to see the moment that Robyn's feelings got hurt.
Well, no, they didn't. Unfortunately they didn't.
Like, I wish there would have been that moment of, like,
panning on her face and see thatthe tears formed.
But unfortunately, yeah. Yeah.
But instead, they showed her son, giving her a hug of like,

(29:48):
don't worry, mom. Like, I'm going to ride with
you. And I was like, oh gosh, Robyn,
no one wants to ride in your carbecause you're terrible.
Well, is that when it starts that she's kind of giving her
background monologue Ness again where she's like, it's been
really so hard for my kids and such a big change and you know,
now they're around blah, blah, blah.

(30:09):
Like she just goes off on a tangent and but it's so positive
and it's like you just yeah, youjust Debbie downward it for like
2 minutes. Yeah, yeah, and are now just
justifying it all. Alright girl.
Typical ride for Robyn. Actually, literally.
And then another typical ride for Robyn is when they are

(30:29):
bowling, she gets to use bumpers.
Oh my God. And then she tied with Meri for
their scores. And Meri's like you use bumpers
if you're over 10, that doesn't count.
And I think Robyn says that it'slike numbers.
It's a it's a matter of numbers or something, but.
The numbers don't lie. The numbers don't lie.
Thank you. But Robyn's a bumper girl.

(30:50):
She's she's a bumper. Girl.
But Meri is not letting her havethat.
Like Robyn wants Meri to shut the fuck up about the bumpers
and Meri's like absolutely fucking that.
Oh my God. Yes.
Like she's like, no. Like, no, I'm not gonna let you
pretend that your score is the same as mine, Right?
Absolutely. Bumpers.
Not Janelle. Did a little life.

(31:11):
Janelle did a little like kick behind when she did, you know,
like the true like bowlers kick when she was like girl.
Because the front half of her was looking like me bowling like
a little bit of a like like you know, like drop the shoulder,
drop the ball and it's moving the backside of her.
I didn't actually notice her bowler legs.
So I'm glad you noticed cuz it'sjust a little.

(31:31):
Kick. OK, kick behind.
OK, Cuz the front half looked like me bowling.
It was like, all right, you know, you got there and you
dropped it. Slow in the Anyway, Yeah, it was
fine. Yeah, but the kick was cute.
Yeah. But yes, Meri held Robyn
accountable and that was fuckingfantastic.
Like ma'am, we will not. That is literally a metaphor for

(31:52):
Robyn's life. Like, I had bumpers and I did
just as good as you. Like, girl, we're not even in
the same bowling alley. I do love.
There was a cutaway to Hunter and he says Meri impressed me
the most because she had a strike and I don't.
And that was so cute. It was so funny because I love
when people give Meri her props.Like, you know, her titles.
You know, the like, Nazi and thewhat?

(32:14):
All of her titles. Then she gets the tooth.
OK, we're going to keep track ofthese.
OK, this is like the one. Thing.
I actually try to remember. Tooth puller packing Nazi.
Packing Nazi photo goddess Photogoddess Packing central.
Central packing. Central packing and now

(32:35):
striking. Pro Bowler.
Extraordinary. Yeah, she's yes Pro Bowler.
She got a strike and Hunter is impressed and I agree.
That was cute. That was cute.
Yeah, and I always love when they give Hunter a little moment
because he has such a great positive aura about him and he
was like all about it, which is so cute.
Yeah, it was cute. They had a good time.
It wasn't as much chaos maybe asI would have expected, but we

(32:58):
didn't see a lot of it either. Yeah, we didn't see anything
breaking or, you know, like any bowling balls being thrown in
places they shouldn't or anything.
No. And then and then.
Back to Vegas. Oh my goodness.
Madame Tussauds. Yeah, so they go to the wax
museum, which I guess is a thing, right?

(33:19):
I've never been to one in real life.
Have you been to a wax museum? So I don't think I've been to a
specific wax museum, but I certainly have been places like
kind of like the weirdest thingsmuseums where they have
something of like that. But it's not just.
Full of not like Madame Tussauds.
I have not, but the intro to thewe're going to Madame

(33:41):
Trousseau's, you know, and Christine says it's just amazing
what they can do with wax. Like, yeah, I guess.
What's your favorite place I. Love Vegas, It is amazing what
they can do. So you love Vegas and you went
to a wax museum and a good dinner and ate in your hotel
room like, I don't know, man, what so.

(34:05):
Kody Kody when they're, when they're introducing this wax
museum visit and he says wax museums should be a little
creepy and he looked creepy. I it was perfect.
I wasn't looking up at the exactmoment, but I caught the end of
it and I knew I was glad I hadn't seen it.

(34:26):
Like that's one that I'm OK thatI didn't actually see the look
on his face for. Wax museums should be a little
creepy. And he did change his voice like
that. And a creepy did change his
voice. He did a creepy voice on purpose
and it was creepy and he looked creepy and he is creepy.
Creepy, creepy. And then and then the music

(34:50):
turns dark and dramatic and Moody, right?
Did you register the music in this moment?
Because it literally did. It turns and it's just like I
was like, what is happening? We could use that music.
The last episode, that was the Halloween episode.
Right. No, it was just this.
And then the next line is one ofthem talking at the bowling

(35:13):
alley Meri, about how the kids didn't choose polygamy.
So like this was the transition.Like the transition was Kody
creepy wax museum. Those children didn't choose
this life. Yes, like.
Yes, girl, I'm so glad that you just teed it up that way because

(35:34):
for our listeners at home, I waswondering what I missed because
it was like Kody talking about creepy wax things and then all
of a sudden Meri's talking abouthow all their children didn't
choose to be born into their beliefs.
And no children choose what beliefs they're born into in
their family. And I'm like, where the hell did
this come from? It was bizarre.
Straight up strange. Not even a commercial break?

(35:56):
No, just like Bam, here we are. Our children are living creepy
lives. Well, let's you know this, she's
saying that they're not. And I'm like, what is going on
here? I'm just watching you have this
experience because it was that was something else entirely.
Kody, our children are living creepy lives.

(36:20):
Meri's like, well, they didn't choose this childhood.
Didn't choose this life. No kids choose their lives.
Right. It's like what the fuck?
I mean, it would be more convenient if we could I guess.
Yes, Yes. No.
Yeah, that's what we're meant tolearn as we grow up.
Shocking. Apparently anyway.
And there's further talking of like raising with good values

(36:42):
like this is, I guess, a a poorly executed transition from
looking at wax figures in Vegas to their children not choosing
their lifestyle, but them also not trying to enforce too much
dogma on the children. Kody talks about the 10
commandments and about being a good person and how those are

(37:03):
more of the vibes they try to instill in their kids.
Are these kind of general swathsthat come with, I guess,
Christianity, Mormonism, etcetera?
Yeah, but yeah, but OK. He also then says he has raised
his children open mindedly but wants them to know that this is
the better way. Right.

(37:24):
Like, OK, I'm not saying there isn't all that other stuff out
there, but this is the better way.
And I just hope that they grow up to make these choices
themselves, but but choose what makes God happy, right?
So like he's giving them their choice and doing all of that.
But still like as any parent does with their beliefs and

(37:44):
their stuff that is still being instilled in these children.
They're certainly not like you go do you?
Let us know what you decide. You know, like.
But a little bit as their their narrative, or I should say their
narrative well. I think as we've watched the
kids grow older today, we do actually see that that happens.
I don't know that I'm buying that right now at the this point

(38:06):
in these kids lives that there'sI, I want to say that they are
open minded as parents, maybe tosome extent as a religious
parent. Yeah.
But like. I don't have a take away that
they are indoctrinating beliefs more than other families in

(38:28):
general I would agree. With that, no, I would agree
with that. But I just think that in any
family there's a level of indoctrination and that's it.
And even if it's indoctrination and not having a belief, right,
Like, I don't know. I don't know if that's actually
a thing though. Indoctrination on not having a.
Belief. I do think.
I think it is absolutely. I.
Like there are definitely going to be parents.
I know I'm like this. This is a whole.

(38:48):
That's all we don't need to do right now.
Here's a can of worms I. Know right, like Cooch closing
it back up just like you eating the words earlier.
Yep, close that can. Good job.
And that's going to sound great in your ears, but.
I know, I hope nobody has that. Yep.
Anyway, we are back to Las Vegas.
Oh yeah, back to Las Vegas. Thank you.

(39:09):
Thank you. That's what we needed.
OK. Shum back to Las Vegas.
So I apologize, yes I mentioned this a little bit earlier but
they are eating dry cereal in the hotel to save money.
I feel like we knew this before,but tell me if we did or we
didn't about Christine's microwavedness.

(39:32):
We did not know this specific but the Ness is insinuated
through the not having a toaster.
Her talk of this microwave has not specifically come in, has
not specifically come up, but. She makes it pretty clear that
she doesn't care for microwaves or radiation.
Christine does not have a microwave.
No, because of and she does somegestures in AV shaped motion,

(39:55):
like of the radiation waves coming in.
So that was nice. Right.
She's also really acutely aware of all the other things that
could harm her children, so that's what's great.
But she couldn't prepare a true breakfast because she only had a
microwave. Now, mind you, they're at a
hotel. So once again, like how little,
you know, little blouse on the Meri.

(40:16):
Can you be? Because it's like you are at a
hotel and it's not like in hotelrooms you have like full
kitchens. I, I, I, you know, who knows
what her understanding is of themodern day, but she brings up
microwaved eggs, which I'm goinglike you, you, you, you, you,
you microwaved eggs are gross. But she also says it in this way

(40:36):
that's like, you know, well, Robyn makes microwaved eggs.
And Christine says, well, you know what?
No one should actually make microwaved eggs because it's bad
for their children. And I thought that was
interesting because I judge fromthe perspective of, yeah, I
don't need any, like, rubbery, weird eggs.
Like when you're fast food jointthat you like the microwaved
eggs on their sandwich that comes in as cooked eggs that

(40:57):
they warm up. It's not a whipped egg that they
are microwaving in the store. So microwaved eggs.
We do not support. I'm not talking to my mother
here, but a microwaved egg is not a real egg in that sense.
So no, you don't microwave eggs for your family.
Like no. So Christine does make sense in
that sense. But also, I don't know, I guess

(41:18):
they were just, they seemed a little hung up on the fact that
they had to eat breakfast in their room and it was cereal.
Like that's what hotels are. They're making it seem like they
were like sequestered to their room.
Like what, they couldn't go downto the lobby where they have
muffins or bagels or something? Like if this hotel literally had
no continental breakfast at all,then Kody sucks even more than I
think he does. It probably doesn't.
It probably doesn't For real. For real.

(41:41):
Oh God yeah, even the Best Western I stay in in my hometown
has continental breakfast. Listen, people have a perception
that a lot of hotels have free breakfast that don't have that.
So this hotel that's built around its own lake in the
desert with palm trees and that has a suite for them to check
into, doesn't have continental breakfast.
Yeah, you know why? Because they have a captive

(42:02):
audience that if they gave them something for free, they.
Don't have to. They don't have to.
Well, this is it. You're in Vegas.
Why are they going out to a mealthat.
They're going to get a meal at so why would I give you
something for free? You're 30 minutes from anywhere
else, you're going to choose to come.
To go there restaurant and pay for it just happens to be that
the Browns are like we eat cereal in our hotel room.

(42:22):
Choosing to do the opposite, correct.
So which I actually would do again.
Six people or is it 6 kids and them is it eight people?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Eight people for a hotel in a,
you know, touristy area. Breakfast.
We're talking, even back then, probably over $100 for a

(42:44):
breakfast. That's ridiculous.
I wouldn't have done it either, you know?
Amen. I think we've talked plenty long
about their breakfast choice in the.
Hotel. So we're still in Vegas.
Kody calls Meri. Oh, he's such a concerned
husband. He's such a good husband.

(43:06):
So he gives Meri a call. Ring, ring, ring, ring, a ring,
ring, Ding, a Ling, A Ling. And she says, oh, Kody.
Oh, Kody. But really sad that time.
I've been looking for work for along time, for a while, since I
was let go from my previous job because, you know, management
brought me in and they just fired me and, you know, it was a

(43:30):
serious blow. And now I'm trying to get
another job and they won't hire me because I'm a polygamist.
So Meri feels like she has been fired because of her lifestyle.
Meri feels like she is not beinghired because of her lifestyle.
I wonder why Meri was fired and I wonder why Meri wasn't hired.
I feel like the not getting hired bit seems more likely

(43:53):
because of her lifestyle and thefact that she is a person on
television. And it kind of makes me go, why
are you even looking for a job like this?
I don't really get that. Like, why don't you?
You're on season 2. You should actually be making at
least 1500 to 3000 to $5000 an episode.
Like you should be able to have an income from your show as a

(44:15):
talent. So I don't know why the whole
job thing is. And this just doesn't sit right
with me. It didn't in the first season.
There's something about Meri's story with employment that
doesn't work out for me. Now I'm going to stop talking.
What do you think? I didn't have that many thoughts
about it, I don't think. I do think there's a point that

(44:39):
she certainly acknowledges that their current situation is going
to likely prevent her from getting a job in the field that
she wants to and like acknowledging that that's a
thing with. At risk youth.
Yeah. You know, I agree that I don't
think I have enough information to determine whether her

(45:02):
portrayal of the hiring slash firing adds up to exactly what
she wants it to be. I, I think that it can go both
ways and I think that she's potentially using some of that
as her excuse for excuse for what is happening.
But also it could be exactly that, like could be 100% that.

(45:24):
So she does say that she lost her other job right after they
went to New York. So right after they were on all
these live television shows and things were coming out fairly
plausible that that could have an effect.
They could certainly try to makeit appear that that's not the
reason that they're getting rid of her, but who knows?

(45:47):
The other one, again, some of these things are just really
hard to take what they're sayingand believe it is like full fact
because it is sugar coated. And and again, I think there's
some being super, super careful to not implicate another
business or organization on the show.

(46:07):
Like they're probably not tryingto give a lot of details.
They could put those pieces together at this point to try to
save some face or something. Maybe I don't know but it.
Could be a part of it. But something along those lines.
But that's why it's hard to to know.
It's hard to know because it doesn't seem like we get the
information that we should be able to fully.
Yeah, see the whole picture, youknow.

(46:29):
Well, this is it as a prosecutoror as a defense attorney or
whatever role I'd be playing if Meri Brown was sitting on the
stand, I'd be like, you don't get to talk to me about your
feelings. What did this person say?
What happened? And that she doesn't give that
with any of her employment stuff.
It never happens. So Amen.
I do suspect, I mean, also it's it's this is the the like

(46:52):
pessimist amigos. So you're on TV, you go to film
live in New York. There's all this stuff
hullabaloo. Are you going to tell me that
had no impact on your job performance?
Like if someone is an employer who's like, by the way, like
girl, like you're cutting out half of your days doing whatever
and like you're telling me you need all this flexibility and we
just can't handle it for whatever she was doing.

(47:13):
We can't even, I personally can't even give her the benefit
of the doubt with that because she doesn't give enough details
about anything. So like I'm imagining having an
employee who's like, oh, and I'mon ATV show and we're flying
here and we're doing this. Maybe that person literally
can't perform the duties of the role and she doesn't give any
facts. And I I it's like weird because
it's like I want to default to believing her but I don't.

(47:36):
I actually don't. I also just think the other
added layer to not to the not knowing fucking anything is the
kind of plausible deniability about speaking about a certain
company or organization. Like if it if she said well my
boss took me into a room and told me blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah. Like you know it.

(47:57):
And I'm not saying just Meri wise.
I guess this is kind of like blanket statement when any of
them talk about their careers and how careful they are about
that and how we have almost 0 information.
So I don't think it hurts to analyze it and think about the
whys. That's what we do about all this
fucking bullshit that we watch on the show.
But like it's just hard to say. Especially employment wise

(48:20):
stuff. It's very blanketed, very not
clear for anyone. Yeah, when a point that stood
out to me is how in season 1 shereferenced wanting to work at at
risk youth as if it was like a future based thing, like a goal
she wanted to do. And so her bringing that up
again as something she would like to do, it also makes my

(48:43):
inner detective with the like, whatever, what is the thing?
Eyeglass, not eyeglass magnifying.
Thank you the magnifying glass. I was close.
The detective with the magnifying glass emoji is going
doing something that you really weren't qualified for or
something you were stretching for in the future.
Because why are you referencing something you want to do that

(49:06):
you couldn't do now, but now you're not getting the job.
The math is not mathing for me on the merry with the job stuff,
but I don't want to make her sound like a liar and you
definitely didn't just try to. Do that at all.
Except, well, to quote Meri Brown.
I'm not a bad person, I just have sister wives.

(49:27):
So, you know, Meri likes to talkabout the effects of her
lifestyle without any backing upfrom my perspective as far as I
see. Amen.
Amen. Back in Las Vegas.
Back in Las Vegas, they. Go on a boat.
They go on a boat, Christine. Kody go on a boat, I think in
this man made lake Yep and beautiful lake Some some some

(49:49):
sort of joke about something andI tuned it out.
So then we go back to the couch.No, I'll tell you.
I'll tell. You'll tell me.
I'll. Tell you the joke, I.
Was. I wasn't sure if you were.
Actually going to do it or not, though?
No, but like they're on this little boat or whatever and
Christine is like, you know all the things and excited and she's
like, OK, you can go faster. And Kody's like this is as fast

(50:10):
as it goes. And that was it.
That was it. And now we're done with the boat
and we are. That makes me happy.
That makes, well, Christine. 'S always so enthusiastic, so
that makes me happy that they were going as fast as they
could. They called it a.
Golf cart boat. Yeah, it did look like 1.
It was like a gondola that had like the tiniest little motor.

(50:32):
Yeah, trolling motor. Yes, if you will see we're from.
Thank you. Minnesota.
Salt of the Earth, Salt of the. Earth.
So back on the couch, Robyn poses up to us like, OK, the
public is asking how Kody has time for all of the children
because there's so many kids. And that does seem like an
obvious question. I mean, like, how does he have

(50:53):
time for all of this? And they all kind of come to
his. I don't know if everyone even
speaks, but they there is a defense brought, including by
Janelle, who talks about how he splits his time as much as he
can. Like there's 24 hours in a day
and he's a father just like everybody else.
He doesn't golf. He doesn't do these things that
a lot of other stereotypically heteronormative male husband

(51:17):
fathers do. I bought into what Janelle was
talking about because I don't think that she was lying when
she was talking. But I don't know if it, I don't
know. Did it trigger anything in you?
Did you have any responses to that?
Not really. I mean, to an extent, yes.
I don't think we, I guess maybe it does trigger something at me

(51:41):
and that is Kody actually says that he feels like Janelle is
being too nice by giving him credit for that and that, you
know, he could be a better father just like anybody could
any other father and. I think that's.
Probably fair. I think he still does things for
himself when he decides to, and I think he probably gets to do

(52:03):
that a little bit more than his wives get to.
In typical, you know, fashion. Oops.
Kody Brown fashion, that is. Yeah, but.
Other than that, I don't. Know that there was anything
crazy about I just don't know. I don't personally agree with
the public perception of that their children are more or less

(52:25):
taken care of by the amount of the time that the father stays
in the home. In fact, that doesn't implicate
children's lives in ways. Oh gosh, here's another tangent
rabbit hole. I mean, there are studies that
show that children's happiness almost fully is due to their

(52:53):
mother's happiness. Like like if you have a happy
mom, you are so much likelier tohave like a happy childhood,
right? Whereas if you don't, you don't.
Now dads don't have and there's a lot of good, I'm not saying
this is a good dad versus bad dad thing, but but in most
homes, heterosexual couple homes, dads don't or at least

(53:19):
for many, many years have not played as a significant of a
role for kids as moms do. And so the fact that the public
thinks that this man not being in that house with each of those
kids every day has as much of aneffect or negative effect as

(53:40):
actually having like 4 fucking moms does like.
That. Surely offsets anything else
that is happening that they are perceiving as neglectful.
So hadn't even thought about it that way until literally right
now. And I'm like, yeah, no, and
these kids are fine. The kids are fine.

(54:01):
Yes, absolutely. And even a step further into
like made-up world land is if there was a woman who was
splitting her time between 4:00 homes and men raising families
primarily in those four homes. I mean, this is not even really
at the forefront of comprehension.

(54:22):
Like I don't even know like TLC if you want to know if you want
your next ratings, bitch like that out there if you want your
next ratings hit. It is having a woman who splits
her time between 4:00 homes and men that are in each home and
the hate and vitriol that will come from people that aren't
even aware of the situation. Crazy and the man babiness of

(54:43):
it. All I can't even imagine.
Oh yeah, those poor, those men. Those victims, those poor
victims, those. Poor male victims.
Raising their own children, Yeah, that's a whole.
That that's a whole level, yeah.That was the situation, OK.
So blah blah blah blah dot. Com.com that happened so
earlier. When we were discussing the

(55:03):
amount of notes that we were taking as we were watching this,
I said that that I had been looking down a significant
portion of the episode. And I'm going to tell you that
right now is the moment that I looked up at the television and
realized what I had missed, OK? When Kody and Christine.

(55:24):
Have been having their couch moments, yeah.
He is. Wearing a purple satin button up
shirt. Oh.
And do you know what it looks? Exactly like Chris, No.
Rex Manning. Not on Rex Manning Day.

(55:47):
On Rex. Manning Day?
No, he looks sexy. Lexi fucking rexy.
Oh, sexy rexy sexy. Rexy, yeah.
So how do we do that with Kody? Not sexy.
Kody. Well, there's not a way to do it
with Kody, that's all. Grody, Kody.
Kody, Kody. Not on Rex Manning Day.

(56:08):
Not on Kody Brown Day. For the listeners, Rex Manning.
Day is April 8th maybe. Oh God, you.
Yeah, do you want to Google it it?
Is. I don't think that you're.
Wrong on 8th or 9th. I'm just saying we actually have
to put the right date. Oh well.
But if you don't. Know what Rex Manning Day is?

(56:30):
Google it. Rex Manning Day is.
April 8th God damn I'm good, youare so.
Good, the 19. 95 cult classic Empire Records.
Well, you know what, Kody? You will never fill out that
blouse like Rex Manning does. It's funny because Rex Manning
is totally like. It would be like an envy thing

(56:51):
for him. That hair also.
Yeah, the hair. This is it.
This is it. The jealousy of the hair.
The hair. Oh my God, the hair.
Gross. So it's fitting.
It's fitting. For Kody to wear a Rex Manning
like shirt. But yes that was something that
we have seen. Like we had seen multiple
moments of them on the couch talking and I had not registered
that shirt until this this moment.

(57:13):
I love how you tend to pay more attention.
To what they're wearing and thatstuff.
Like, I appreciate that you do that.
Because even thinking about whatChristine was looking like in
that interview, like right now, if I was trying to describe it,
it would be like the ugliness ofa Christmas sweater, Like an
ugly Christmas sweater, but it'snot an ugly Christmas sweater.
It was just burgundy, very lightweight.

(57:35):
Something over like a black or black.
There was a lot of some layers. Browns.
Probably some flowy stuff that doesn't do well.
When you're sitting, you know. She looked.
She looked great. So yeah.
And Kody apparent. I did not notice the purple
beauty. I'm glad we know.
Thank you for pointing it out darling, you are so.

(57:56):
Welcome when they're on the couch in.
Their. Fabulous outfits.
They do volunteer. I don't remember if it was
Christine or Kody. I think it was Christine,
probably. Well, I'm not sure if it was
Christine or Kody, but they say that they had three years of
struggles in their marriage thatis coming up on 17 years.
I know Kody said they're coming up on 17 years.

(58:17):
Do you remember who said if they've had three years of
struggle? I think they both were kind of
going back and forth. A.
Little bit like it was kind of like, you know, we've been
married this long and you know, we've had some struggles maybe
three years out of 17 years. Like it was just, it was a very
back and forth. They were both kind of putting
in their their own two cents about it.
But but other than those, that had been bliss, right?

(58:39):
Oh yeah, Bliss. Bliss.
It was totally believable. After 14 years.
Of bliss and three years of torture.
We've been married 17 years, so you know, But bliss, come on.
Don't you worry though, Chris, don't.
You worry. Kody's priority is filling that
bank account of love. That's his priority.

(59:01):
Filling that love bank. That bank account.
He didn't say love bank, He saidbank account of love.
It's great, huh? It's great, yes.
I'm just. I I was trying to connect the
dots between Vicki Gunvalson's Love Tank being empty and then
the the Bank of Love. That's not the Love Bank, but it
didn't work fast. Bank account.
Yeah, bank account. Of love.

(59:23):
Oh God. You see, they just can't get any
of this shit right, ever. I know.
Yep, well as. Long as cat cats away the.
Dogs. If the cat's away, the dogs
will. Play and Vicki Gunvalson needs
her love tank filled, but so does Christine.
But she's not gonna talk about it.
Fill that bank. Account of love Bank account of
love. Doesn't roll off the tongue.

(59:46):
No, but the trip is very. Important for Christine and Kody
to reconnect. Very important.
And this is once again where I'mgoing.
Like you're reconnecting and your kids are there.
I get it. Kids are part of family.
But I just feel like they and their words are emphasizing
them. And it's like it's not even just
them. Like, you know, with traveling
with six kids, it's not about you.

(01:00:06):
It's just not like it's not. So I shouldn't say that.
Is that too dramatic to say traveling with six kids?
It's going to be about the kids.I think this is still your.
Perception that they would have had more fun if the kids weren't
with them, which is also a possibility.
But I think that if they're going into this as a family
vacation in which you all are together as a family trying to

(01:00:29):
have a good time, I don't know that it's necessarily given that
like, actually, sometimes it's super fun to see your kids do
stuff. Right.
So like, I think I think that there's a little bit, but the
moment you're talking about is when they're at this dinner,
talking about like they're at this romantic dinner, just the
two of them. And that's kind of when they
start going into this diatribe of of some of their trials and

(01:00:51):
tribulations, too. And then, of course, Kody sneaks
in. Just one more quick mention of
the investigation and that stuff.
Oh yeah, morally. Wrong.
And it's stressful, Yeah. And then we move back to all the
other challenges like that. Again, that's the most
information that we've gotten. Yeah, while.

(01:01:12):
They were at this dinner. My overall vibe was that they
don't feel like a real couple. Like the way that they were
talking to each other made me feel like they were colleagues
and not even colleagues that arereally close.
Like they're almost at like a convention.
Like this trip was like their conference where they're getting
together and they're talking about them and they're doing

(01:01:33):
whatever is their thing. But even while they were sitting
there speaking to each other, it's almost like Christine was
talking a foot in front of him and he was to the left and he
was talking a foot to the right of her.
Like they weren't even really looking at each other.
Like there was just this like business esque like this non

(01:01:54):
intimate, which we we learn about them more in the future,
but not a like people that are fucking and people that are at
one point even we're going to build a life together and are
kind of in a thing in a partnership in some way.
I didn't get that vibe from themat all.
When you say the. One foot, like one step ahead or

(01:02:17):
something like that. I wrote down a couple of the
back and forths that they sat. So I think Kody said, you know,
this is a time for us to unwind with each other, right?
And then Christine said, yeah, there's good days and there's
bad days. And then Kody said the threat is
heavy, right? Like the threat of this

(01:02:37):
investigation, whatever, that's heavy.
And Christine was like, but I'm glad we went public.
Like, I'm still like glad we didthis.
And so it is these varying degrees of like the bad being
said or whatever else and kind of still acknowledging it, but
not seeming on the same page or connected about it.
I get the I get the disconnect. It seems like their goal is to

(01:03:02):
say when he actually says that their goal is to show family
like that's we're showing familyto people and like, but it
doesn't necessarily mean that they all are coming together in
this like perfect, bundled up byshowing that together.
Yeah, you know, Yeah, it seemed.And the reason I think.
I'm even saying business and kind of like a conference is it

(01:03:24):
seemed like a meeting where theywere talking about the things
that they needed to talk about and not even like at each other.
That sounds dramatic, but just kind of like we're saying the
things and there was not anything going between them that
was like we're here. They were a married couple at a
dinner without their kids and that was not the vibe to me.

(01:03:47):
I think part of the. Unsure, but tell me, yeah.
Is it possible that more of whatwe were hearing them say was
when they were on the couch and they only showed a very brief
part of the dinner? I don't think they showed us
actually that much of A dinner, no.
There was only a few sound. Bites that were from the dinner,
yes. Yeah, but part.

(01:04:07):
Of where I'm going with that is the fact that some of the
questions they must be being prompted to answer on these
couch sessions. Yeah, it's like, well, so all of
this stuff has come out and there's this event you keep
talking about the investigation,you know, are you still happy
you did this? Are you still whatever?
And so I think that sometimes the blending together with the

(01:04:30):
prompting probably just seems messy too 'cause I think we've
shown or been shown many, many, many times that the transitions
don't work and that like, they don't always paint the right
picture. So I could see it being both
ways, but I, I would certainly agree that they don't have a

(01:04:51):
connection that we've seen a lotof.
I would certainly agree with that.
The others, I think we've seen moments of them having those
connections, and I don't think we see much of that with
Christine and Kody even in thesemoments.
Of while filming, so they're at this dinner, we do see other

(01:05:13):
moments with wives with Kody andbroadly in reality TV, but let's
say specifically with Kody and his wives where they're having
like intimate conversations and they're still like the light,
the camera, the at least 2 crew that's happening and they're
still having intimate moments ofsharing in some manner.

(01:05:36):
And to me, this just didn't. That didn't strike at all.
You could have replaced Christine with anyone off the
street. And I feel like the chemistry
would have been the same. Yeah.
Now, I don't know that that really matters, but it's really
just kind of a signifier of who they are at this point.
Again, we're we're we already. Know where we literally we
already know how it ends. Like does this even matter?
It's like, well. None of this matters.

(01:05:56):
We're just talking about all this shit.
We know how it ends, and so we're.
Seeing these moments in these ways that it, it builds this
yeah place they are now. And so I think it's fair to
acknowledge Christine says that.She's glad that they went public
like you talked about, which is interesting because she hasn't
always sung those chords strongly.

(01:06:17):
She talks about how they recognize a threat, that there's
like a threat to doing this, butthat they've made changes and
that they have talked to their children, particularly about
being approached by strangers, showing support for each other
regardless of what is happening externally.
I don't know. It felt, once again, I feel like

(01:06:42):
this episode was like, like, that in and of itself is a whole
thing. Like, what happened with that?
What are you doing about this? Whatever.
But they just say it like it's crossing the street, like, oh,
we're doing this and we're doingthat and everything's fine.
And then literally Kody talking about the trying to show them as
a family. That's like how they wrap it all
up. We're trying to show ourselves
as a family. So he's telling us what they're
trying to do, but it all feels so lightweight in the way that

(01:07:05):
they were wrapping up the episode.
But it's all big stuff. It is big stuff.
Another thing Kody. Said too that I forgot about was
that they he said they've gottenthank you's from people like
people have thanked them for coming out and bringing
awareness to this. And you know that they have
gotten support from people not only just within their church,

(01:07:28):
but and maybe less within their church than just people in the
public that are like how cool that you're not letting this,
you know, like keep you guys in getting anymore.
So they're trying to reinforce that they're getting positive
stuff from it too, and that theystill feel like there's a reason
to do it. It is funny.
It's only season 2 episode what,455 maybe now don't know where

(01:07:52):
we started the day where we ending it, but episode 5 five
perfect that this is such a big focus right now.
When we get actually into later seasons, there aren't those.
There isn't the legal focus. There isn't the we became public

(01:08:12):
focus. They've already been out there
for years. So then it just actually starts
to focus more on the like. Right now we're we're seeing the
outside forces a lot of externalthings.
And still not. Be told a lot about it, but it's
weighing in, right? And then eventually we get to
the point that it's just the internal stuff that starts to
bubble. Yeah.
And yeah, exciting to get to that part.

(01:08:33):
Yeah, like we'll be, we'll be a little happier about that.
Well, this is true. Some of this stuff season.
Two, we're sliding. Into these discovery.
Moments of their interpersonal relationships and they're back
and forth and the way they really are with each other.
Maybe while they're being filmed.
I mean, who knows? Still kind of.
We still don't know. Yeah, like that.
Will probably become more natural as time goes on.

(01:08:54):
But like, that first season was really a lot of storytelling.
It was a lot of like, This Is Us, This Is Us, This Is Us.
So now however many episodes andwe're finally actually getting
into some of the stuff. Yeah.
All right. Mustard Seed and Schenstein, Who

(01:09:18):
is your let's let's swap it around this week.
Who is your Mustard Seed alley? I love that you say flip it.
Around because I don't think we consistently go one way with
you. I think you.
I think you whipped out a shit stain at me first a couple weeks
ago. I whipped out a shit.
Stain at you. You were like, who's your?
Shit stain. I was like, whoa, I love it.
I've never whipped out a shit. Stain at you.

(01:09:41):
Oh God, you're right. OK.
Shit. Never say never.
But who is my mustard? Seed.
Yes. Who is your mustard seed this
week? I'm going to I'm going to do 1
so that. You don't have to.
OK, You've you've had to give her a lot of props lately that
you didn't want to. Oh, thank you.
God bless. Thank you.
Go with Meri. Thank you.

(01:10:02):
I'm going to go with Meri from aMustard Seed and part of it is
because sometimes that bitch does a good job of getting in a
shady comment without seeming shady.
The kids that were left behind. I think that was a slide.
Dig and I appreciate it, but I also fully support her bowling

(01:10:30):
skills. And so I'm going to I'm going to
go with, you know, a couple, couple different levels there,
but I'm going to give it to Meriso that you don't have to.
OK, I appreciate. That my mustard seed this week
is going to Janelle. I would like to parallel the
bowling bit because I do feel like she and I bowl similarly.
I haven't seen that kick yet. There's right?

(01:10:53):
I. I have to remember to kick
because otherwise I would. Just go up and squat and.
Throw So I'm feeling very Janelle.
I also appreciated that she saidshe didn't know what to do
without Christine being around with her kids because that was
real. And maybe I don't identify with

(01:11:13):
that because of all of my children and how I always and
like watching over them. But really like, that was pretty
cool and that was funny And I doenjoy like she's funny, she's
funny. So I have to give it to Janelle.
Well deserved. Also.
I'm just so glad I don't have togive it to Meri.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for that team there.
Thank you. Sure did.
Shit stain. Who are you going with?

(01:11:36):
I mean the usual, right? Are you going with Kody Brown?
Yeah, OK. Kody Brown?
I think so. And why this time?
Shoot, I don't even know if I have a reason.
No, the the Rex Manning impersonation maybe like, I
don't know, I think just that onthe potential.
Yeah, you're a discount Rex Manning.

(01:11:57):
Yeah. Oh my God, that would be such a
good thing to say to him. Like you're a, you're a Rex
Manning on layaway. You're a fucking, you know Rex
Manning. Yes, you do.
Yes, you do. Yeah.
Yes, you wish you were. Rex Manning.
He had. On a flashy watch too.
Anyway, he does. He's got watches.
Anyway, he's that guy, so I think it's just for that.
But there's probably something more specific that he did that I

(01:12:18):
should be annoyed with him for, but I'm just going to go with
that. Yeah, I support.
This. I support it.
I have to give my shit stain to Robyn.
Yes, what a shock. I'm giving my shit stain to
Robyn because not only did she use bumpers and bowling and then
tried to make it seem like for some reason her score actually

(01:12:40):
was comparable to Meri's When shit now I have bowled with my
nieces where I use bumpers, it never crossed my mind to
actually say like Oh my score's the same as yours.
So I just feel like that makes her low IQ.
Amen. And then also the Speaking of
the low IQ things like the awesome, her vocabulary, the way
she describes things, the way that she changes, the way she

(01:13:02):
talks about things based on how she wants to appear.
It's pretty obvious and juvenileand just not very smart.
And all the reasons that we hateRob, I already know.
So the reason I can't even get into it too much is because
Robyn is going to be the shit stained so many times that we
are going to get into so many things.
But let's be clear. Janelle or Meri or Christine

(01:13:24):
could say the word awesome and it wouldn't annoy us, right?
Only how? Robyn says.
It in the context at every, every fucking time, every
fucking thing she says all the fucking times.
This is it if you listen to thispodcast.
You know that we're not exactly putting together masterpieces
every time we speak, but my God,it's awesome.

(01:13:46):
Like, Oh my God, you are 30 someyears old with children,
whatever. A hard working single mom who
loves her dance and I don't knowwhat around.
Like if I started walking aroundsaying bet.
Bet bet bet like. Bet.
Like BET, Yeah, Like, yeah bet. What does bet mean?
It means yes. It means like yeah, bet yeah.

(01:14:07):
OK, I'll do that. Bet.
Like bet, Like affirmation. OK, like if I was doing that?
Right now, if I was like bet, bet, you'd be like, I'd be like,
honey, exactly what just happened.
Darling. Yeah, Amen.
All right, so our keep. Sweep moment this.
Week goes to Nate McGrath Nate left a comment on season 2

(01:14:31):
episode 2 free range Browns on Spotify and he quotes some of
our lexicon oh corny, oh corny and he put a motorcycle emoji
and a bunch of laugh faces. So thank you Nate for that
that's amazing. We unfortunately are saying oh
Kody to each other a few times in normal life, like we just

(01:14:54):
functioned throughout our. Days by saying oh Kody.
So I did a trophy. Shake Nate.
I did a trophy. Shake for your your comments.
Yes, she's shaking her fists. Right.
Now it's amazing that could be misconstrued with.
That shaker saying, yeah, what was the love?
That one, You know what I mean? Yeah.

(01:15:16):
What she's doing right now. Oh, from that angle, it probably
did look a. Little strange.
Well, it was definitely a mustard seed honey.
We're going to keep on watching,we're going to keep on recording
and we're going to keep on releasing episodes and hopefully
you keep on listening. Yes, we truly appreciate it and.
Thank you so much and enjoy thisblessed day.

(01:15:37):
Goodbye.

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