July 5, 2025 • 60 mins
The veil lifts as Pim finally makes her on-camera debut, bringing vibrant energy to a conversation that takes listeners deep into the contrasting worlds of Bangkok and Pattaya. What begins as a lighthearted discussion about Pim introducing her boyfriend to her family quickly evolves into a revealing exploration of Thailand's tourist landscape.
Mike doesn't hold back as he describes his jarring Bangkok experience – from the 350 baht fried rice that should cost just 60 baht, to the aggressive mamasan behavior in Nana Plaza, to the unsettling frequency of drug offers from strangers on the street. His palpable disappointment provides a powerful contrast to the comfortable familiarity of Pattaya, which despite its notorious reputation, feels "like a village where everyone knows everyone." This isn't just travel talk; it's a window into how drastically different two tourist hubs can feel when experienced through local knowledge.
The conversation shifts into more vulnerable territory when Pim opens up about her romantic relationship, describing it as "50-50" serious compared to her previous "almost 100%" commitment. Her candid insights about trust issues and the complications of dating while working in bars reveal the complex emotional landscape navigated by those in Thailand's entertainment industry. Mike contributes thoughtful observations about what makes relationships succeed in Pattaya's unique environment, noting that "you cannot buy love" – a simple yet profound truth that many travelers learn the hard way. Their honest dialogue about temptation, age gaps, and financial expectations cuts through stereotypes to expose the human realities behind tourist-local relationships.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
podcast.
I'm Mike, this is Pim.
You finally can see both of us.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And hello everyone, and we are very excited, as we
promised you for about I don'tknow, a few months already, and
previously with Lada, I told youfinally that one day we are
going to do it in the studio.
So here we are, yeah, excited.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Really, really, I'm really excited, excited.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, I am First time for you on camera.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, is it.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Like officially first time on camera.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, first time on camera.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I remember you dancing in front of I don't know
hundreds of people.
Oh yeah, and you weren't sonervous.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I do never also, but that's unlike in this way,
because that's like just showand finish Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So just feel comfortable.
Yeah, let's enjoy the next hourwith each other and with our
listeners.
Okay, so last time we spoke onthe phone we were both in
Bangkok.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
But before that, as I already said on the podcast I
did with Michelle and June, youwere with a guy, yeah, and you
took him to meet your family.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yes, right, how was it?
It was great.
It was great.
Yeah, get back home from Nike,back for a long time, probably
like a few months.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
A few months you haven't been home, you haven't
seen your family.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, and then like get back and travel around, went
more.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Wait, wait, wait.
First about your home.
How was it for him?
Was he excited?
You mean about him, I it forhim.
Was he excited?
You mean about him?
I mean the experience of yourfamily meeting a foreigner.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
How was it all right?
All right.
So, probably, like they are,they are excited to me, yeah,
foreigners guy, but I think forfor child, children, they are
excited more because children.
They are excited more because,okay, yeah, you mean like
cousins and yeah, yeah, and inmy home never, never talk with
(02:12):
english language.
So when I'm talking with, yeah,when I talk with him and show
the other, and they feel likeuncomfortable a little bit
because they understand, yeah,well, now they know how we feel,
how the foreigners bit becausethey don't understand.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, well, now they know how we feel, how the
foreigners feel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we don'tunderstand shit here.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, that's right.
So it's all great, great andthey are happy.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
He was okay with the food.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Huh, the food?
Yeah, I love it.
They give back.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
No, I mean for him, for him, yeah, for him, for him.
Yeah, he likes Thai food.
He can eat Thai food, as likeThai people like that, like he
can eat spicy and he can eateverything, like all the special
dishes.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, he can eat spicy more than me.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay, well, you're not an example.
You cannot eat anything spicy.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
No, no, no, I can, but I need like less spicy, not
too much.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, I know, so it was okay, right, how long you
stay there with your family?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It was just three night, oh, okay.
Three night and went back toKachang.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
No, no, no, no, wait you went to Kachang.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, I went to Kachang after that.
Sorry yeah, just three nightand then after that got down for
two night.
How was gochang?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
it's not really good about winter the weather yeah,
it was raining every time.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I called you rain the yeah, just like um for third
day I came and rain for all dayokay, so, um, so you just stayed
in or you went, even it was,you went outside a little bit
when rain is finished, so I'llbe going out sometime.
It doesn't long like that,because have rain always coming,
(03:53):
but house about there is likequietly and not have many
tourists.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh, it was empty.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Maybe partly about the place I'm staying.
It doesn't have many tourists.
Oh, it was empty.
I maybe probably about theplace I'm stay this doesn't have
many tourists for visit.
How?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
far was it from the beach, like your home um, that's
not far.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Like a walk distance, yeah, okay, like a private
beach?
Oh, that's nice, yeah, but it'sa half rain, so that's why I
just lose my special time.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You don't lose your special time.
You still were in the room.
Michelle was curious that ifyou are staying in the room, are
you having more fun justtogether with him?
But I said those kinds ofquestions I cannot ask.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yes, prefer that, I prefer to stay in the room more.
Okay, I understand, like myself.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So you've been there, and by the time you left Koh
Chang, you went to Pattaya right, and this is the time that I
went to Bangkok.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So we were supposed to stay in Bangkok for two
nights, but we stayed only forone night.
We were supposed to meet youguys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we stayedonly for one night.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
We were supposed to meet you guys.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it wasn't everything didn't go
as we planned Because, to behonest, I don't like Bangkok.
It was my first timeexperiencing Bangkok.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Really.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, because normally, well, I've been there
once many years ago, but on likeofficial business stuff, I see.
So I didn't even go out of myroom, I just went to the room
and to some I mean last time,and to some like government
places, and then I went backright.
But this time we were.
(05:36):
So it was me, michelle.
We met scott over there becausehe had to spend a week in
bangkok and greg was over there.
We actually met g spend a weekin Bangkok and Greg was over
there.
We actually met Greg on hislast night before he moved to
Malaysia.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Oh, it's like last night for him.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, it was last night for him in Thailand, for I
think he will be back aroundSeptember.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So what happened?
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So we arrived it was around 7.30, something like that
, right, and then we went to eatsomething and already I
understood that Bangkok is sofucking expensive so no, we just
went to a regular restaurantnear our hotel.
How much you think I paid forcow pad, for fried rice with
(06:25):
chicken?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I don't know about finance restaurant, but I just
guess I get to do that 350 baht,really, yeah, shit, yeah,
that's fucking expensive, is it?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
yeah, so, just for you know, the regular fried rice
with the egg on top, right withchicken, normally it costs
between 60 to 80 baht.
Yeah, yeah, 350 baht.
But okay, I said that's notexample, maybe because it's the
tourist area, yeah, yeah, andthen we went to c's Secret.
(07:02):
So there are two Cindy'sSecrets, right, uh-huh, which is
ladyboy bars.
Yes, right.
So the original one is nearwhere we stayed in Bangkok I
don't remember exactly the story, but it's not far from where we
stayed and the second one, itwas open last year here in
Pattaya.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(07:23):
So we went there and it was sodepressing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we went there and it was sodepressing.
It was empty, completely empty,like few ladyboys playing pool,
that's it.
And when we went inside, ofcourse all of them surrounded us
because all of them wanteddrinks.
I agree, yeah, and we stayedthere.
It took we had to meet Scottthere, so it took him about 40,
(07:45):
50 minutes to reach there,because I don't know where he
stayed, right, and it was sodepressing.
Oh, to see a bar like thatempty, yeah, and nothing going
on, like the only good thing Ican tell about that that they
have really good pool tables now, like they renovated them
lately and like amazing pooltables, but even there, like,
(08:09):
the drinks are more expensivethan Pattaya.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
How much of a drink is that?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
So for what?
Normally we paid in Pattaya,let's say, vodka with Schweppes
lemon.
Normally I pay between 100 to140 in Pattaya.
It was 190 in Bangkok oh yeah,lady drinks also 200, yeah 200,
(08:34):
100 lady drink.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, for lady drinks yeah, so how much for them.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I don't know, but I do ask this kind of question.
But I do know because I askedScott like hey, you know you're
in Bangkok for a week, have youmet anyone?
And he said yeah, but he didn'twant to go because it was so
fucking expensive.
So he said the cheapest bar,fine, was I don't remember now
1,000 or 1,500.
(09:01):
Really yeah.
And the lady boy wanted threethousand, five hundred for short
time, short time for one hour.
And she told him their hoursstart when they leave the bar,
not when they come to the roomyeah, yeah, yeah, I think
probably other bar in patriayeah, but it's, you know it's,
(09:22):
it's insane for these prices.
So you just say, no, I wouldn'tpay that right.
So I think he just jerked offthe whole week.
I don't know, I didn't ask him,but I'm guessing Screw that for
that, yeah, so these were theprices.
So after that we went to.
So there is a bar namedCheck-in Bar.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Check-in Bar.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, so there is one bar named check-in bar.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
check-in bar, yeah, so there is one on soy soy
socomvit 10, and now they openwhat one in socomvit 11?
Oh sorry, they have two.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Now they have two.
The new one they opened like 10days ago.
Like at the day we we've beenthere, it was 10 day before they
opened extremely nice bar, eventoo nice, you know what I mean?
very fancy, like it's thebangkok style, right everything
is like over the top, you knowwhat I mean with a huge like
(10:14):
over the head bar with manydrinks I think just the bottles
like of alcohol there is about 1million but at least like the
amount they had over there itwas nice, uh, but again it's.
It's when you are used topataya, right, you are used to
certain kind of bars, and thenyou it make it made me at least
(10:37):
feel a little bit uncomfortable.
Everything is so nice, everyoneis also dressed so nice yeah,
yeah, I understand it's like toomuch.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah it's like high society.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
So it's not for me.
You know me, I'm down to earth.
Nah, yeah.
And then we went to Nana Plaza,which I don't even you know
what.
I will say one thing about NanaPlaza it was shit because the
attitude we get from the likemama, son over there.
(11:09):
So there are two goggles thatwe are, goggles that we went to.
I don't remember the names.
I think one of them isobsession and the other one
rainbow maybe, I don't know.
Okay, so, and we got treatedlike shit over there.
How, how is going like?
I'll give you the example.
So think about it.
We are three people because wehaven't met Greg yet.
(11:31):
We are all ordering drinks.
We are all ordering lady drinks.
The mama's son come.
She want a drink.
Michelle bought her a drink.
Before she even get the drink,she come to me, buy me a drink
also.
I say no.
Then she already gave me thestink.
I like why not?
I say because I don't want tobuy you a drink.
Then she moved to the, to scott, which also didn't bought her a
(11:52):
drink.
She got the drink that michellebought her, drank it in one
second.
Buy me another drink.
Huh, and when michelle no saidno, she was like angry at him,
why not?
She was very aggressive, soweird.
When I asked refill for refill,like another drink, she again
gave me the stink eye and shespoke Thai.
(12:13):
I know what she said Like ohfucking cheap, farang why.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I need to buy for him .
I understand no way like that.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I think it's just like for me.
It's weird and doesn't nice topeople.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It's more than that.
I think, it's kind of stupidand I explain it.
I don't say she's stupid, Idon't know her.
Maybe she's extremely smartlady, but it's low season now.
Every customer count.
You cannot treat customer likethat, because all the three of
us and also Greg, because wetold him we will never go back
there again Right, they're justlosing customer with that
(12:50):
editing.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So what is going on?
And, believe me, it wasn't thatfull right.
Yeah, it was almost completelyempty.
So I don't get what they'rethinking, but maybe this is her
style.
I don't get what they'rethinking, but maybe this is her
style, I don't know.
Maybe in this way she gets moredrinks when she treats
customers like shit.
Some people like it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
For me it's like if you think that this is your job
and this is a job.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, you have to change your personal.
Some personal up here to be inthe job and make the good job
you're, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But yeah, this way I say I I'm surprised that she act
that way.
Right, and I think there is,might be a reason behind it.
Maybe normally when she treatcustomer like that it's actually
working, because maybe you knowmany people that come to
bangkok, the tourists that comefor two, three days, and they
they're leaving right, she knows, ok, I have to maximize every
(13:48):
drink because I will not seethem again anyway that's the way
it is, is it true?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
also, maybe I'm a Thai person and I've been to
Bangkok also before, but I don'tstay for long like not not you
haven't lived there, right huh?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
you never lived in Bangkok no, never lived in.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Bangkok but when I'm, when is that?
I'm just stay for two night orjust few days?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
but what's your experience from Bangkok?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
it's it's like for first time I'm just go to meet
my friend no, no, I mean thegeneral experience.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
You enjoyed it, you.
You find it what you'rethinking about bangkok like if
you have to recommend someonefor me it's like um, you know
why?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
so you, you in the, the central city, like a big
city, it's your city and theyhad like the rules, you when you
did something oh yeah yeah, sothey had the rules like in the
rub top other restaurant likehand restaurant.
(15:00):
You can wear like flip-flop onyou can wear just, you cannot
wear just no more.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, but those rules I actually get like they want
everything to like to showeveryone that comes.
Okay, this is a high-hand barright, everything here is over
the top and we want ourcustomers to dress nice long
pants.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
You cannot come with shorts, you cannot come with
flip-flops that that is happenedwith me before.
It's like, um, if I'm, I'm justwearing something like normal
me when I'm going out anddoesn't have problem when I'm
wasn't there, that's how I'mhanging out with my friend.
So they said like you're,you're serious.
(15:44):
I mean, my clothes show toomuch.
Oh, really, yeah, okay, becauseI'm too revealing yeah, too
revealing, and that's it.
That's not nice to get in there,so that's why I feel like much
better to if understand who'sthere.
They are saying like doesn'tcare other people, they just
(16:08):
focus on themselves and forfreedom.
It doesn't open for that.
Okay, but for me it's like Ican have a good time in there,
but not about have to go outsomewhere like a special place
or a tourist spot and I don'twant to go.
(16:28):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I think we have a similar experience.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Similar.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Now I want to continue to tell you what's
happened Now all this time, andI don't know I might have to
delete what I'm going to say now.
I don't know I might have todelete what I'm going to say now
, I don't know, but wheneverthere was a black guy walking in
the street he would stop youand offer you to buy drugs of
him.
Huh yeah, like it's somethingvery organized.
(16:57):
Like all the black almost allthe black guys that we saw there
were drug dealers and all ofthem offer us cocaine, ganja.
I'm sure I could get whatever Iwant from them, but you know,
I'm a former drug addict.
I cannot.
I'm not doing any drugs right,so it was kind of hard for me.
But like, this is the thing thatpeople don't understand about
(17:22):
Pattaya.
So everyone say Pattaya is thesin city.
You know it's the city thatpeople don't understand about
Pattaya.
So everyone say Pattaya is thesin city.
It's the city that everyonefucking all the time and
drinking all the time andwhatever.
But you don't see, like thedrugs here are not as accessible
as in Bangkok.
Like, of course, everywhere youare in the world you can get
drugs whatever you want, butit's so accessible in there,
(17:44):
even the taxi drivers all thetaxi drivers that we took offer
us drugs huh, yeah, really, yeah, everyone.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So I gotta say, like that is open for that more than
in pastries, yeah, but I?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I don't think it's a good thing you know it's not,
that's not a good thing.
It's not.
It's extremely bad, becausethis is a shitty reputation for
the city yeah, and like Iunderstand here.
Well, it might change soon, butyeah, you have many like weed
shops everywhere because for nowit's still kind of legal right.
I understand that no problem aslong as it's legal.
(18:18):
But why I have to feel like I'mbeing hassled on the street all
the time to buy drugs yeah,right now, that's not it.
So we went to a few other placesand we ended the night at a
place called it's kind of theepic bar of Bangkok, so it's the
late hours bar that you cancome like from 8 in the morning
(18:42):
until, and also there, first ofall, extremely expensive drinks,
and what they actually sell islike balloons filled with, like
you know, laughing gas.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I just know that.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, and then, like, you buy it, you put it in your
mouth, you take the gas in andthen you get a high Right,
everything is around involvingaround getting high there.
You know, I really didn't likethe experience, the environment,
not only because I'm formerdrug addict, because I think
it's so different from what youhave in Pattaya.
Pattaya is more yeah, considerthe sin city, but it's such a
(19:22):
nice city, it's like a villagecompared to Bangkok, like
everyone know, everyone, almosteveryone, is friendly, right,
and, to tell you the truth, Idon't think I will be back to
Bangkok no, I understand, sorryto hear that, and yeah, and that
is like maybe it's going to bethe point.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
That is why tourists doesn't come to travel around
Bangkok.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
But there are tourists in Bangkok.
I think, like if you count howmany tourists actually visit
Bangkok compared to Pattaya,bangkok get more tourists,
because even people that come toThailand for 3-4 days, they
will stay in Bangkok, they willnot even bother to travel around
.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I understand because, like um, um, for some people
like to be in freedom more thanor have good people around.
Yeah of course.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I think everyone wants good people around.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, more than like just go somewhere else and offer
you this, offer you that or tryto get your how to say that?
Like buy you a drink.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, but buy me, hey .
Hey, can you buy me a drink issomething that you hear
everywhere.
Right, I don't mind that.
I don't mind even the pushinessbecause I can say no.
Right, it's not that hard forme to say no if I'm not
interested to buy a drink.
So I don't mind that.
But the whole like it feltwenshi, it felt dirty.
I don't know how to explainthat uh, yeah, I understand that
(21:03):
way.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's like, um you know, like put put to you yeah
and make you uncomfortable yeah,I felt extremely uncomfortable,
though you're right, this isthe right word to say.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
The only thing like in my opinion that I do I I did
like about bangkok.
The only thing I think the foodthere is amazing.
Yeah, it's much more expensive,but like the variety of food
that you can get it.
You get there like any kind ofcuisine.
You can think about it, fromethiopian cuisine to whatever
(21:39):
you can find, like we just Iwanted to eat ramen, right.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
You know, I like Japanese food.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
So the second night, me and Michelle before we went
back to Pattaya I told MichelleI want to eat ramen.
I looked like in Google and Ifound the best ramen restaurant,
which was like a kilometer anda half from our hotel.
We went there and it was likefull.
They said oh, you didn't makereservation, you cannot go
inside, so no problem.
And in that street where therestaurant was, the restaurant
(22:06):
was called Uma Uma.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Uma, uma.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, so in that the same street where the Uma Uma
restaurant is, there were likeseveral restaurants Japanese
restaurants right, Uhrestaurants right.
So we went just to the underone and it was the best japanese
food I ever had in my life good, really yeah, it's nice, it was
amazing, not that expensive,but still more expensive than
pataya, but like a real japaneserestaurant, like everything
(22:34):
prepared in front of you.
The chef is in front of you evenfucking.
Everything that the tvs thatwere there on the like on the
wall, and everything, everythingwas japanese.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah so it.
It was nice.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I can't imagine that yeah, and it was a nice
experience it's good.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's good yeah, it's like um, yeah, some people they
just went to somewhere that'snice and they complain about, oh
, thailand or somewhere inThailand, like that's nice,
something like that but oh, youmean that there is still a good
point yeah, but I mean it's likeum much better if you go around
(23:13):
.
I mean like travel around morethan just staying at tourist
place.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
So let me understand.
If I get you right.
You mean that if, let's say,you come to travel to thailand
like a general person, decide totake a vacation in thailand and
let's say you go to bangkokfirst and you not feel
comfortable, don't think thatall thailand is like that.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You mean this no, yeah, yeah, that's what you can
travel around and go otherplaces yes, yeah, that's what I
mean, because, um, that is notonly thing it happened in
thailand, because, like it'shave more about people, more cap
people you know in thailand somuch better to go around more
(23:52):
looking some places like for you.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, and have a good time if, if let's someone,
let's say even from ourlisteners right, ask you what
are your three number one placesthat you have to visit?
What would you recommend Likecities, let's say you don't have
to say like certain points ineach city.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I got to say, like I have some places I can say very
nice, but I've never been before.
I want to be.
It's about like northern northThailand which city it's like um
Chiang.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Mai.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Okay, so number one, let's say Chiang Mai yeah,
what's your number two numbertwo is, um, I just know like
probably Rayon.
Okay, in my opinion, rayon youlike Rayon Rayon, because I've
said that before.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah it's kind of an industrial city.
You know, there are manyfactories over there.
I don't know about it reallylike the whole south, the whole
west area of Rayon is like fullof factories.
Yeah, but Like the whole south,the whole west area of Rayong
is like full of factories.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, but I mean it's like for the place, like quiet
place, and yeah, it's quieterthan Pattaya, of course, and you
still have some nightlife overthere.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have some, but it's like Pattaya
, of course it's like all night.
Nothing is like Pattaya.
Yeah, I'd say yeah, of coursethat's like all night.
Nothing is like Patea.
But yeah, I prefer to be therebecause I've stayed there before
and I feel like to be honest,the place had the beach, okay,
but that's like a busy beach.
Not many people.
(25:33):
You can stay and then relax,yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And also, from there you can go to Koh Samet, if you
want, for a night or two.
I've been to Koh Samet beforeMe too.
Yeah, it was okay.
Actually, when me and my exwere thinking about buying a
house in Thailand, we lookedinto Rayong, into Ban Chang.
You know Ban Chang.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I know Ban Chang.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
So we were looking to buy a house over there.
Eventually we decided not to.
But, yeah, this is like.
If I need to choose where tolive, I think rayong will be
like ban chang, or maybe satahipwill be the right area for me
because it's not too far frompataya, but it's still not main
city pataya, which can besometimes very overwhelming yeah
(26:17):
, yeah, it's like a village andyou can stay for a normal life.
You can have a normal life herealso.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes, it's like you don't wake up all night like
that.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, it's not like the city that doesn't sleep like
Pattaya.
There are actually certainhours that you will prefer to
sleep over there.
So you said Chiang Mai Raiyongand there are actually certain
hours that you will prefer tosleep over there.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So so you said Chiang Mai Rayong and it's hard to get
three, but of course, my home,zanaburi, really.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I don't know about other places, so you will not
recommend Pattaya for new goers.
You mean like for Someone thatnever been to Thailand.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Pattaya.
I gotta say Pattaya gotta belike, happen in everyone's mind
Like yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
You think everyone knows about Pattaya?
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Not know, but about like okay, the place I would
like to go when I come toThailand would be like Pattaya.
Okay, that is just like I thinkmany people have a plan about
that.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
We actually had a conversation about this.
I think it's you're kind ofright and kind of wrong.
I will explain what you mean.
So yeah, Pattaya is a knowncity in Thailand, but many
people, especially when theycome with families, try to avoid
Pattaya Because Pattaya havelike a bad name.
(27:40):
You know that, as we saidbefore, people think that the
only thing you can do here isdrinking and fucking and
partying all night, which isabsolutely not true.
Not true.
The next I think the nextepisode after this actually, we
are going to do with Scott aboutwhat we can do in Pattaya other
(28:00):
than partying.
Ah, yeah so we will not exposeeverything right now, but we we
also enjoy some activities thatnot not include drinking and
stuff like that, because, listen, for people that stay here more
than a short vacation, youcannot drink every day no, you
can't, you will just getobliterated.
(28:21):
Yeah so you're healthy.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
It's not healthy and also it tends to be very
expensive, because when you'redrinking you're spending right
too much so I prefer my home,maybe for for visit some place
and then, like you can see howit's thing like different,
different way from like, I mean,it's like bangkok and that's
(28:44):
yeah, it's completely different,completely different.
It's like a yeah, sorry, moreabout about like a foreign
natural place okay like naturenature.
Yeah, okay, and my home so it'shad like river in my home is
more like mountain and riverlike that.
(29:05):
So it is maybe people wouldlike to visit for me, like shoot
out okay and see how differentyou want to say where is your
home?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Like not the village, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Sorry.
Where is your home?
Chantaburi, chantaburi,chantaburi.
Yes, okay, I know.
Where is that?
Do you want to explain to thelisteners?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Chantaburi is near by Thrat.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Okay, and Chantaburi yeah.
So it's almost Cambodia alreadyAlmost.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Almost Cambodia, almost Cambodia.
It's almost the border.
Yeah, I'm staying near Cambodia.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
What do you think about what's going on now with
Cambodia?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
For me, it's just more about people that have a
hard life more.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No, I mean, you heard that there is like altercation
between thailand and cambodiaright now.
I heard I heard that because,again, there are some like lands
that they don't agree.
Who should have those lands?
Right the same old story thathappened all over the world.
What do you think about thatlike?
Because for me, I alwaysthought like Thai people and
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Cambodian people are almost thesame.
They're like brothers, you know, cousins.
Okay, not brothers, but cousins.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
For me it's like just the way the place is, like in
Thailand, so I don't know whatis true, what is the real
history from that place.
But I'm gonna say, like peoplewho come to Thailand for work
(30:49):
from Cambodia yeah, cambodianpeople come to Thailand for
working, so they have to go backor Cambodian people I mean,
it's like Cambodian clothes tonot, it's like Cambodian clothes
to not Thai people to move liketravel around, but you do feel
that Cambodians are like thecousins of the Thai.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
You also think that for me.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I have like I have how to say that, like like an
uncle, or yeah, they are likerelatives, yeah, like this.
They are from Cambodia.
Yeah, they are like relatives,yeah, like this they they are
from Cambodia.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, they're from Cambodia.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, so even the families are like mixed
sometimes, yeah yeah, sometimes,but for me I doesn't need them
for long for the last time it'slike I'm just a baby okay but
still, you have family there.
Yeah, yeah, but I know I havefamily in Cambodia yeah so I
feel like, yeah, that's afeeling good.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, and also many Thais, especially in the
provinces that near Cambodia,can speak Khmer.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Many of them Like my ex all of her family.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
most of the time when they speak with each other,
they don't even speak Thai.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
They speak Khmer family most of the time when
they speak each other, with eachother.
They don't even speak thai,they speak america.
So yeah, so there is this likeum home home language yeah more
than you speak thai because,like um kamehameha language,
this is feel comfortable more tospeak, of course, because you
grew into it right yeah, but forme I'm, I can't you cannot I, I
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just speak a little, not enoughto understand, like if I put
you in cambodia.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
No you cannot you just result to speaking thai and
english?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
yes, because um I'm gonna say like a new generation.
Then maybe it's like I wasn'treally interested about kmer
language.
Okay, I can understand some,but you know I don't like to
speak.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I understand that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
So that's why I try to.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Because my home they are, they can't speak Khmer, I
think because many Cambodianpeople come to Pattatea to walk
in the bars also.
Oh, yeah right, so I think youcan learn from them a little bit
, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, it should be like that because I'm staying
nearby and but for people who Imet from Cambodia.
So, yeah, like quiet, like tobe quiet and feeling like they
are shy to talk with, so that'swhy I never had like friend from
(33:27):
cambodian okay I understandthat I'm working, but yeah, I'm
working with them, so I knowthem.
Know some people, but not manyokay.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yes, I have another question for you, not Not about
this subject, so me, michelleand Scott, we were wondering.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
So how serious is that with that guy.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Now this question yeah, is it?
Yeah, really, because we spokeabout it.
Hey, where is Pim?
What's going on?
Normally, pim meets us almostevery day.
We go eating together, we goparty together, we go party
together, we go wherever.
Now we don't see Pim anymore.
Yeah, I understand.
I'm going to say Like from zeroto ten.
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How serious is that right now?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
For now it's like 50-50.
Can I say it like that?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Before.
I'm feeling like I'm almostlike 100, almost 100 serious,
but I feel like when what isgoing on?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
for now I feel like I could like play serious more
okay because, um, it doesn'tfeeling comfortable if it's too
serious, you know oh, you feellike you're too invested in that
and then you just took a stepback.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, yeah, okay so because, because it's as like,
not as like, but it's his firsttime about that, first time to
have like boyfriend can say likeI don't know how people treat
each other when they're being, Ican tell you what not to do.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
What not to do Don't yack, yack, don't slap him
Really.
Don't yack, yack, don't slaphim.
Don't drink too much, that's it, just be normal.
Watch Netflix together, go eattogether, have fun together.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
You know three of things you said he did
everything, really he did so.
He yaki yaki you, he slap younot not slap like, but you know
um a bit aggressive, like pushyou or something like that no,
no, no, just like a play, it'slike a place, okay, I guess,
like that if play is fun, havefun, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
But about and drinking too much, yes, oh, I'm
sorry, it's all right.
It's all right.
That's not a good recipe for adelicious relationship.
You know what I mean, Iunderstand.
But, Especially because you'renot drinking too much.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
So if both of the Like the couple together they're
drinking, okay, it might work.
You know they just get drunktogether and enjoy.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
It's like a spark together.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah but if just one person is drinking and the other
one is not, so into drinking.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
It's just feeling like a contrast about how is
growing a lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
And you think now it's more easy for you to get
into a relationship becauseyou're not walking the bars
anymore.
No, I mean, I will explain whatI mean.
So, as we spoke about Scottbefore, it's very difficult for
him to get into a relationshipbecause many of the girls that
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he meets are actually walkingthe bars.
So if he doesn't want them togo with other customers, he has
to buy them off the bar.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
And then he has to take care of them.
So immediately, from zerorelationship it turns out to be
100% relationship, because thatperson completely relies on you.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I understand Because, okay, I don't want you to work,
so how would I have money?
And like all those stuff.
And because you're not workingin the bar, I think you're more
available for relationship rightnow, because if you meet
someone it will be just natural.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
For me it's like I gotta say I change my mind.
You mean like opening check, orit's like before I think, okay,
probably maybe I'm not workinga bar and maybe I have.
You have you seem for headrelationship, you know.
But for me now it's likedoesn't, doesn't drift in
(37:41):
doesn't want is.
It doesn't drift in how to canhave relationship you're less
interested in relationship now.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Huh, you feel you feel like you're less interested
in relationship now not less,not less.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I feel in the same way in a bar, but for me it's
like what is going on isdifferent, because I think it
depends on the person more thanabout what you do.
Okay, yeah.
No matter what if you work in abar, but you have luck with
love.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, but this is what I'm asking you you think
it's more easy to find a realrelationship with someone that
is not working in the barbecause not have all this
pressure of she has to work, shehas to make money, she has to
go with new customers and thenyou know, you don't think it's
(38:35):
like more natural environment tomeet people and go on dates
with people that not walk in thebus?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, it's more.
I mean it's like more to behave relationship easy Because,
like you don't have to worryabout oh, where she's going or
where who my girlfriend can staywith.
(39:03):
I'm feeling like for bar girlsthey're working and they know
what they do.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Of course, the men also know, this is how they meet
them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not likeoh, I go to the bar and this
girl really likes me and we aregoing to my room and whatever
you know.
No, of course you know he paidfor that.
He knows this is her job.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
And it's like a business sometimes.
So it's just doesn't nice to dowith relationship, like real
relationship.
But for me I'm feeling like Iget.
I get better.
I mean it's better forrelationship feeling so because
(39:52):
I can.
Before, when I'm talking withsome guys they always say like
oh, because you're working a bar, you're gonna meet a guy.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Oh you have customers wait, wait.
Say again I, I need you to bespecific.
He said so you meet some guy.
And then what he said to you, Imean it's like before, when I
work in a bar when you're stillworking.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, when I'm still working a bar and then like I'm
just get like many equation fromyou have a the same creation
from many guys like text me likeyou have customer tonight or
you're gonna go out with a guy.
Oh and feeling like and feelinglike you doesn't trust me.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
It's like oh wait, so you mean someone that you're
already seeing?
Yeah, and he always asks youwhat you're doing, what you're
someone that you're alreadyseeing, and he always asks you
what are you doing?
What are you doing?
What are?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
you doing, not like that, but it just makes the
creation to be like feelinguncomfortable to have a
relationship, because much moreone person should be able to
stay with one person.
But when ladies work in a barhave to make money, yeah, you
(41:01):
have a customer going out andthen like, if someone you really
like to be in the relationship,but they, you know you work in
a bar, you have to meet guy formoney, yeah, so they're gonna
make like bad job, you know whatI mean.
Like bad joke with creation.
Like you're going to havecustomer tonight like that.
(41:23):
How many customer you have asklike that?
And the feeling like, yeah,that's why.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
But this normally happen in a long distance
relationship.
So when this guy is not longerin Thailand, right, he's back
home and he's still curiousabout what's going on with you.
Yeah, yeah, it's like that.
Yeah, but I guess it's not.
First of all, it doesn't matterif it's with thai lady or any
(41:50):
other person in the world.
It's very hard to maintain longdistance relationship.
Very hard because there is thetime difference, there is the
cultural difference, there isalso the fact that you know
people not trust each othersometimes yeah because normally
long distance relationshiphappen in the first phase of the
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relationship, especially incities like Pattaya or all those
places in the world, and thenyou still didn't, you don't have
, you don't have like a trust,trust relationship because oh, I
don't know her enough, I don'tknow, maybe she's lying to me,
maybe she's using me, maybe what, whatnot?
And the girl think the same.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Maybe he's lying to me, maybe he's using me, maybe
he's like yeah, it's whathappened with me before you had
a long distance relationshipbefore yeah, and I'm feeling
like, um sorry, it's like more,more than more than happen.
(42:53):
It's just like doesn't haverelationship because it doesn't
work if you still that's a trashorder.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, but let's say in.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
If in that certain relationship, he told you okay,
pim, I need to go home, I buyyou out of the bar and I give
you, let's say, 30 000 everymonth, go back home.
Would you feel more comfortablein that relationship?
For, for that thing, it's justlike not because of the money,
(43:24):
because you don't have to work,I mean yeah, yeah, everyone like
had to work.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I mean it.
Yeah, yeah, everyone like hadto work.
I mean it's like cannot.
If someone do that to me, I'mgoing to say, like you cannot
stop me to working, maybe I'mgoing to work as like a normal
job.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Normal job?
Okay, yeah, but he will tellyou listen, don't stay in
Pattaya, please.
Yeah, go out of Pattaya.
I don't want you to stay here,because I know you're beautiful.
People will come to you in thestreet and they will want to
stay with you and it's verytempting, you know, okay, I can
make another five thousand, butI can make another four thousand
, but you know, for me it's likeif you, if you know you really
(44:07):
like this guy, really love thisguy to be in a relationship, you
know, but I don't know himenough yet.
Huh, let's say, you just met him, I, you don't know him for many
, many years.
Yeah, that's a really coolweeks, maybe a few months.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
That's a really close .
Yeah, I understand that.
That's like you have to makesure you probably think about
money or about relationship.
If I'm going to say, if Iprefer, if I'm just thinking
about money, I need this money.
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So maybe say no.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
You would rather still working in the bar and
make money, or still not in thebar but still freelance, like go
with customers for moneysometimes maybe that maybe that
way is easy, okay.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
But yeah, I had like, um, I'm just in the, uh, I'm
just in that guy then like I'mat the bar, yeah, and then I'm
doesn't do freelance and I dofreelance after that, and then
like until wait, wait.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
So you stay with him.
You're not walking the ballanymore.
He go back home and you stillfreelance, sometimes when he
don't know uh, that before notnot the last time okay, uh-huh
so for last time it's likefeeling trust each other more
than but what is going on?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
is this bad?
Bad part, I gotta say it's justthat thing happened about um,
the weather and experience onthis time is on this holiday
doesn't really well but we aretalking about the same guy.
Oh my god so it is like morethan I can trust with about what
(46:05):
he said.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
So if before you trust him, 100 now you're not
trusting 100 anymore it's.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
It's like a trust in the way relationship doesn't
like this trust in the waycustomer come see me like that
yeah, I'm not saying a customer,yeah, yeah, all this
conversation, I didn't call hima customer, yeah I call him your
guy, right?
So I feel feel like I havefeeling less trust in the
relationship.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
May I ask what he did to make you feel that?
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Okay, you're going to say it.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
You don't have to say specific, but in general.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Just let me just leave me alone in the room going
on Really For, say, like fullone week.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
And you wanted to go out with him.
Yeah, and he didn't even offeryou.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
What the fuck.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
No, it's like the time is different and the plan
is we have plan.
It's like I have my plan, hehas his plan.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
I understand, but you wanted to hang out with him
yeah, try to.
You know you wanted you said,if you want to go out, I want to
go with him, right?
Speaker 2 (47:20):
yeah, yeah and he didn't offer to you it's about
like um, maybe it's like I'mcoming back to the room late
because I'm going to meet afriend, we do the podcast, and
(47:40):
when I get back it's like he'sgone already.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
And then I try to contact but he doesn't and you
think he's fucking around forbefore you suspect not think
Like try to contact but hedoesn't.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
And you think he's fucking around For before.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
No, like you suspect not think you suspect that he's
fucking around.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
For first.
I probably don't think aboutthat For first.
That's happened with me.
It's like maybe he did thatBecause it's just many times,
it's more than just one timetime.
We did like three or threetimes, but for now it's like no
matter what, if you doesn't knowhim that well, you should too.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Doesn't really trust and make you feeling like he's
mine, but like feeling like okay, we just start yeah, you know,
I was speaking with scott aboutthis, so he gave like an example
not example, but he said likewhen he came to patria, this
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time he actually came forsomeone special.
There was one lady boy that hereally liked and he left
everything behind and he camehere in order to meet her, right
, and things didn't work out andthey didn't hang like, it
didn't become like a couple.
I don't think they even meetmore than two times, three times
(49:06):
.
But he said to me the other daythat if everything worked out,
worked out between them when hecame to Pattaya, he think he
will still be with her and itmight be a really long
relationship.
And I said no, you're lying.
So why am I lying?
I say why am I lying?
I say because for guys, whenthey come to Pattaya, there is a
(49:33):
lot of temptation, right, yeah,first I know.
Let's say you and me, forexample, let's say I know you
for a long time, right?
And then I'm excited, I'm hey,pim, soon I come Pattaya to stay
with you, right, and you'rebeautiful and I'm happy with you
, and we stay together and we goout.
And then I see, oh, yeah, thereis another lady or lady boy that
(49:54):
I like, and another and another, you know, and the temptation
here is very real because youactually can be.
If you have the right money,you can be with everyone,
exactly.
So I'm not sure that if hewould be with that girl he will
(50:15):
not fuck around.
Not, I'm not saying all guysfuck around, I'm just saying
that the temptation is very big.
It's very accessible here, bythe way, also for the ladies and
the lady boys that work here,because, let's be honest, most
of the guys that you will end upin a relationship with will be
(50:38):
much older than you.
Sorry, okay, so, but most ofthe guys that you will end up in
relationship with them will bemuch older than you.
Wait, not as good looking asyou, right, yeah, maybe they
have money, but that's it.
And for you, you also oh,that's thai guy is very handsome
(50:58):
, or, oh, I like this farang,like he's handsome.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Also, there are temptations for you, yeah, yeah
so it's very hard it's very hardremember this city does involve
drinking a lot.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
So when you're drunk you feel like, okay, I'm ready
to party, I want to like to meetsomeone.
Yeah, I understand that's aproblem.
That's a problem.
Also, I'm not saying thatrelationship in Pattaya cannot
work.
They can.
They most certainly can work.
Yeah, they can.
They most certainly can walk.
But it have to be first of all,you have to start from the right
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place that both sides actuallyattracted to each other, not
only because of the money orbecause of the age difference or
what not, and actually theyhave things in common that they
like to do like a regularrelationship.
For example, if you neverwalked in Pattaya and you still
stay in your hometown, you willgo out with guys that are
(51:55):
actually interested for you,right?
Oh, he likes the same movies Ilike.
Oh, he reads the same books.
Oh, he does the same activitiesI do, like there is something
in common and I'm attracted tohim.
I'm not thinking about his money.
I'm thinking about oh, he'sgood looking, I want to have sex
with him.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I know.
So this has to be the base fora relationship here, in my
(52:22):
opinion, in order for arelationship to work here and
that's not happening many times.
No, no, no, because again I canguess, without even knowing
that the average age of yourcustomers, the average right,
the average age age of yourcustomers is about 45, maybe 50
(52:46):
it's like a start from more,less from 30.
30.
Start, 30.
, 30.
And maximum.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Maximum 70?
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Probably yeah.
So if we find the middle, it'sabout 50.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yeah, it's about 50, 45.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah, so it's even a bit more than 50.
It doesn't matter, but this isthe average age of the guys that
you are seeing here.
Right, and I know for a factthat ladies in the bars, ladies
and ladyboys, when a young mancomes in the bar, even if he's
not that good looking, but, theyare excited.
(53:24):
Oh, he's a young guy, there iseven competition who will get
him?
You know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, I know, I know.
So this is something that Ithink can work.
This is what I'm saying.
If there is not a big age gap.
For example, me and my ex,there was only one year between
us.
(53:44):
One year, one year.
So I met her when I was 29,something like that, and she was
28.
Oh, oh, I was 30 and she was 29.
So there is not much agedifference, right, we did have
some things in common, right?
And immediately I told her okay, I'm going back, we are not a
(54:09):
couple yet.
I came again, I met her again,stayed with her.
Okay, I'm going back, we arenot a couple yet.
I came again, I met her again,stayed with her the whole time,
went home again, and then I toldher listen, I'm coming in a few
months.
When I'm coming, I want twothings I want to meet your
family and I want to take youout of the bar, because until
then I knew she's seeing otherguys, she's going with customers
, she's whatnot, right.
(54:30):
But then she went out of thebar and then we started planning
Okay, I want you to come to mycountry.
Ah, so I think I made it theright way, you know Right way,
yeah, Not just for example Iwill not say names, but someone
that just first time came toPattaya and then, oh, I'm in
love with this girl, I'm goingto spend my whole life with her,
(54:52):
blah, blah, blah, and he's justinvesting everything he have.
I understand, you think that'shealthy, huh?
You think it's healthy for theguy, like for the girls?
Speaker 2 (55:03):
it's amazing she get a lot of money, a lot of gold.
It's the dream, right?
Yes, I dream, but forget that,because most likely he will lose
everything yeah, it's like umfeeling, feeling happy with with
that, and like the point is youhave to spend money and you
(55:25):
don't really know the otherperson yeah, yeah, but it's like
much more to learn people, butnot like just just trying to
know the other guy, man, yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
It's, it's difficult.
How many people, for example,how many good relationships you
know that started in Pattaya,Long, lasting relationship.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
You mean like I know some people have.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
That have relationship still going on,
like maybe three years, fouryears, five years, six years
with France.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Me.
No, no, people that you know,People that I know, I mean I
think I doesn't say who.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
You don't have to say the name, but you know anyone
that actually have successfulokay five yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
I know, I know for some, but it's like lesson for
over a year, but more than likehappen stay for two months and
they end.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah if you would have to say what is the number
reason of relationship that endsin Pattaya.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
I don't know.
I think probably they're overhere.
No, no no.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
What is the number one reason?
Number one reason yeah, yeah,sorry that relationship ends in
yeah I think about the job thatworking a bar is the first
reason that the lady is stillworking the bar, and it's hard
for the guy and hard for thegirl also yeah, it's hard for
(57:06):
each other would you say, likeif?
If someone would ask me, Iwould say in my opinion is the
money factor yeah, this is whatI mean, like uh because
sometimes the girls think, okay,you want to talk with me every
day.
You're back home, right, but youstill want to talk with me
every day.
You don't want I go with people.
(57:27):
When I do go with people, youfucking continue.
Send me message every twominutes.
What's going on?
You want me to call you videoall the time?
Show you, at least pay for me,right, the minimum you can do is
give me like 30 000.
Okay, then maybe I can say Ijust work for drinks, right, I
still would fuck around, but youwould.
You wouldn't know.
But it's this I'm not doing likelong times you know, but the
(57:52):
money I think is the most is thebiggest cause of relationship
to ends in Pattaya.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
I think so because, like what has happened is like
when I meet people liketerrorists and they like to talk
about like, okay, they'reinspiring about girl ladies,
little boy and kids behind theylike it More.
The problem is about money.
Yeah, it's like they're feelingspend a lot of money but they
(58:24):
doesn't get love.
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Yeah, you cannot buy love.
Love is not obtained by money,so we don't have much more time,
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Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
podcast.
I'm Mike, this is Pim.
You finally can see both of us.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And hello everyone, and we are very excited, as we
promised you for about I don'tknow, a few months already, and
previously with Lada, I told youfinally that one day we are
going to do it in the studio.
So here we are, yeah, excited.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Really, really, I'm really excited, excited.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, I am First time for you on camera.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, is it.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Like officially first time on camera.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, first time on camera.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I remember you dancing in front of I don't know
hundreds of people.
Oh yeah, and you weren't sonervous.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I do never also, but that's unlike in this way,
because that's like just showand finish Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So just feel comfortable.
Yeah, let's enjoy the next hourwith each other and with our
listeners.
Okay, so last time we spoke onthe phone we were both in
Bangkok.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
But before that, as I already said on the podcast I
did with Michelle and June, youwere with a guy, yeah, and you
took him to meet your family.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yes, right, how was it?
It was great.
It was great.
Yeah, get back home from Nike,back for a long time, probably
like a few months.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
A few months you haven't been home, you haven't
seen your family.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, and then like get back and travel around, went
more.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Wait, wait, wait.
First about your home.
How was it for him?
Was he excited?
You mean about him, I it forhim.
Was he excited?
You mean about him?
I mean the experience of yourfamily meeting a foreigner.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
How was it all right?
All right.
So, probably, like they are,they are excited to me, yeah,
foreigners guy, but I think forfor child, children, they are
excited more because children.
They are excited more because,okay, yeah, you mean like
cousins and yeah, yeah, and inmy home never, never talk with
(02:12):
english language.
So when I'm talking with, yeah,when I talk with him and show
the other, and they feel likeuncomfortable a little bit
because they understand, yeah,well, now they know how we feel,
how the foreigners bit becausethey don't understand.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, well, now they know how we feel, how the
foreigners feel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we don'tunderstand shit here.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, that's right.
So it's all great, great andthey are happy.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
He was okay with the food.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Huh, the food?
Yeah, I love it.
They give back.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
No, I mean for him, for him, yeah, for him, for him.
Yeah, he likes Thai food.
He can eat Thai food, as likeThai people like that, like he
can eat spicy and he can eateverything, like all the special
dishes.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, he can eat spicy more than me.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay, well, you're not an example.
You cannot eat anything spicy.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
No, no, no, I can, but I need like less spicy, not
too much.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, I know, so it was okay, right, how long you
stay there with your family?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It was just three night, oh, okay.
Three night and went back toKachang.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
No, no, no, no, wait you went to Kachang.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, I went to Kachang after that.
Sorry yeah, just three nightand then after that got down for
two night.
How was gochang?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
it's not really good about winter the weather yeah,
it was raining every time.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I called you rain the yeah, just like um for third
day I came and rain for all dayokay, so, um, so you just stayed
in or you went, even it was,you went outside a little bit
when rain is finished, so I'llbe going out sometime.
It doesn't long like that,because have rain always coming,
(03:53):
but house about there is likequietly and not have many
tourists.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh, it was empty.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Maybe partly about the place I'm staying.
It doesn't have many tourists.
Oh, it was empty.
I maybe probably about theplace I'm stay this doesn't have
many tourists for visit.
How?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
far was it from the beach, like your home um, that's
not far.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Like a walk distance, yeah, okay, like a private
beach?
Oh, that's nice, yeah, but it'sa half rain, so that's why I
just lose my special time.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You don't lose your special time.
You still were in the room.
Michelle was curious that ifyou are staying in the room, are
you having more fun justtogether with him?
But I said those kinds ofquestions I cannot ask.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yes, prefer that, I prefer to stay in the room more.
Okay, I understand, like myself.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So you've been there, and by the time you left Koh
Chang, you went to Pattaya right, and this is the time that I
went to Bangkok.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So we were supposed to stay in Bangkok for two
nights, but we stayed only forone night.
We were supposed to meet youguys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we stayedonly for one night.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
We were supposed to meet you guys.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it wasn't everything didn't go
as we planned Because, to behonest, I don't like Bangkok.
It was my first timeexperiencing Bangkok.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Really.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, because normally, well, I've been there
once many years ago, but on likeofficial business stuff, I see.
So I didn't even go out of myroom, I just went to the room
and to some I mean last time,and to some like government
places, and then I went backright.
But this time we were.
(05:36):
So it was me, michelle.
We met scott over there becausehe had to spend a week in
bangkok and greg was over there.
We actually met g spend a weekin Bangkok and Greg was over
there.
We actually met Greg on hislast night before he moved to
Malaysia.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Oh, it's like last night for him.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, it was last night for him in Thailand, for I
think he will be back aroundSeptember.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So what happened?
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So we arrived it was around 7.30, something like that
, right, and then we went to eatsomething and already I
understood that Bangkok is sofucking expensive so no, we just
went to a regular restaurantnear our hotel.
How much you think I paid forcow pad, for fried rice with
(06:25):
chicken?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I don't know about finance restaurant, but I just
guess I get to do that 350 baht,really, yeah, shit, yeah,
that's fucking expensive, is it?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
yeah, so, just for you know, the regular fried rice
with the egg on top, right withchicken, normally it costs
between 60 to 80 baht.
Yeah, yeah, 350 baht.
But okay, I said that's notexample, maybe because it's the
tourist area, yeah, yeah, andthen we went to c's Secret.
(07:02):
So there are two Cindy'sSecrets, right, uh-huh, which is
ladyboy bars.
Yes, right.
So the original one is nearwhere we stayed in Bangkok I
don't remember exactly the story, but it's not far from where we
stayed and the second one, itwas open last year here in
Pattaya.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(07:23):
So we went there and it was sodepressing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we went there and it was sodepressing.
It was empty, completely empty,like few ladyboys playing pool,
that's it.
And when we went inside, ofcourse all of them surrounded us
because all of them wanteddrinks.
I agree, yeah, and we stayedthere.
It took we had to meet Scottthere, so it took him about 40,
(07:45):
50 minutes to reach there,because I don't know where he
stayed, right, and it was sodepressing.
Oh, to see a bar like thatempty, yeah, and nothing going
on, like the only good thing Ican tell about that that they
have really good pool tables now, like they renovated them
lately and like amazing pooltables, but even there, like,
(08:09):
the drinks are more expensivethan Pattaya.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
How much of a drink is that?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
So for what?
Normally we paid in Pattaya,let's say, vodka with Schweppes
lemon.
Normally I pay between 100 to140 in Pattaya.
It was 190 in Bangkok oh yeah,lady drinks also 200, yeah 200,
(08:34):
100 lady drink.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, for lady drinks yeah, so how much for them.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I don't know, but I do ask this kind of question.
But I do know because I askedScott like hey, you know you're
in Bangkok for a week, have youmet anyone?
And he said yeah, but he didn'twant to go because it was so
fucking expensive.
So he said the cheapest bar,fine, was I don't remember now
1,000 or 1,500.
(09:01):
Really yeah.
And the lady boy wanted threethousand, five hundred for short
time, short time for one hour.
And she told him their hoursstart when they leave the bar,
not when they come to the roomyeah, yeah, yeah, I think
probably other bar in patriayeah, but it's, you know it's,
(09:22):
it's insane for these prices.
So you just say, no, I wouldn'tpay that right.
So I think he just jerked offthe whole week.
I don't know, I didn't ask him,but I'm guessing Screw that for
that, yeah, so these were theprices.
So after that we went to.
So there is a bar namedCheck-in Bar.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Check-in Bar.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, so there is one bar named check-in bar.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
check-in bar, yeah, so there is one on soy soy
socomvit 10, and now they openwhat one in socomvit 11?
Oh sorry, they have two.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Now they have two.
The new one they opened like 10days ago.
Like at the day we we've beenthere, it was 10 day before they
opened extremely nice bar, eventoo nice, you know what I mean?
very fancy, like it's thebangkok style, right everything
is like over the top, you knowwhat I mean with a huge like
(10:14):
over the head bar with manydrinks I think just the bottles
like of alcohol there is about 1million but at least like the
amount they had over there itwas nice, uh, but again it's.
It's when you are used topataya, right, you are used to
certain kind of bars, and thenyou it make it made me at least
(10:37):
feel a little bit uncomfortable.
Everything is so nice, everyoneis also dressed so nice yeah,
yeah, I understand it's like toomuch.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah it's like high society.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
So it's not for me.
You know me, I'm down to earth.
Nah, yeah.
And then we went to Nana Plaza,which I don't even you know
what.
I will say one thing about NanaPlaza it was shit because the
attitude we get from the likemama, son over there.
(11:09):
So there are two goggles thatwe are, goggles that we went to.
I don't remember the names.
I think one of them isobsession and the other one
rainbow maybe, I don't know.
Okay, so, and we got treatedlike shit over there.
How, how is going like?
I'll give you the example.
So think about it.
We are three people because wehaven't met Greg yet.
(11:31):
We are all ordering drinks.
We are all ordering lady drinks.
The mama's son come.
She want a drink.
Michelle bought her a drink.
Before she even get the drink,she come to me, buy me a drink
also.
I say no.
Then she already gave me thestink.
I like why not?
I say because I don't want tobuy you a drink.
Then she moved to the, to scott, which also didn't bought her a
(11:52):
drink.
She got the drink that michellebought her, drank it in one
second.
Buy me another drink.
Huh, and when michelle no saidno, she was like angry at him,
why not?
She was very aggressive, soweird.
When I asked refill for refill,like another drink, she again
gave me the stink eye and shespoke Thai.
(12:13):
I know what she said Like ohfucking cheap, farang why.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I need to buy for him .
I understand no way like that.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I think it's just like for me.
It's weird and doesn't nice topeople.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It's more than that.
I think, it's kind of stupidand I explain it.
I don't say she's stupid, Idon't know her.
Maybe she's extremely smartlady, but it's low season now.
Every customer count.
You cannot treat customer likethat, because all the three of
us and also Greg, because wetold him we will never go back
there again Right, they're justlosing customer with that
(12:50):
editing.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So what is going on?
And, believe me, it wasn't thatfull right.
Yeah, it was almost completelyempty.
So I don't get what they'rethinking, but maybe this is her
style.
I don't get what they'rethinking, but maybe this is her
style, I don't know.
Maybe in this way she gets moredrinks when she treats
customers like shit.
Some people like it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
For me it's like if you think that this is your job
and this is a job.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, you have to change your personal.
Some personal up here to be inthe job and make the good job
you're, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But yeah, this way I say I I'm surprised that she act
that way.
Right, and I think there is,might be a reason behind it.
Maybe normally when she treatcustomer like that it's actually
working, because maybe you knowmany people that come to
bangkok, the tourists that comefor two, three days, and they
they're leaving right, she knows, ok, I have to maximize every
(13:48):
drink because I will not seethem again anyway that's the way
it is, is it true?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
also, maybe I'm a Thai person and I've been to
Bangkok also before, but I don'tstay for long like not not you
haven't lived there, right huh?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
you never lived in Bangkok no, never lived in.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Bangkok but when I'm, when is that?
I'm just stay for two night orjust few days?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
but what's your experience from Bangkok?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
it's it's like for first time I'm just go to meet
my friend no, no, I mean thegeneral experience.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
You enjoyed it, you.
You find it what you'rethinking about bangkok like if
you have to recommend someonefor me it's like um, you know
why?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
so you, you in the, the central city, like a big
city, it's your city and theyhad like the rules, you when you
did something oh yeah yeah, sothey had the rules like in the
rub top other restaurant likehand restaurant.
(15:00):
You can wear like flip-flop onyou can wear just, you cannot
wear just no more.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, but those rules I actually get like they want
everything to like to showeveryone that comes.
Okay, this is a high-hand barright, everything here is over
the top and we want ourcustomers to dress nice long
pants.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
You cannot come with shorts, you cannot come with
flip-flops that that is happenedwith me before.
It's like, um, if I'm, I'm justwearing something like normal
me when I'm going out anddoesn't have problem when I'm
wasn't there, that's how I'mhanging out with my friend.
So they said like you're,you're serious.
(15:44):
I mean, my clothes show toomuch.
Oh, really, yeah, okay, becauseI'm too revealing yeah, too
revealing, and that's it.
That's not nice to get in there,so that's why I feel like much
better to if understand who'sthere.
They are saying like doesn'tcare other people, they just
(16:08):
focus on themselves and forfreedom.
It doesn't open for that.
Okay, but for me it's like Ican have a good time in there,
but not about have to go outsomewhere like a special place
or a tourist spot and I don'twant to go.
(16:28):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I think we have a similar experience.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Similar.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Now I want to continue to tell you what's
happened Now all this time, andI don't know I might have to
delete what I'm going to say now.
I don't know I might have todelete what I'm going to say now
, I don't know, but wheneverthere was a black guy walking in
the street he would stop youand offer you to buy drugs of
him.
Huh yeah, like it's somethingvery organized.
(16:57):
Like all the black almost allthe black guys that we saw there
were drug dealers and all ofthem offer us cocaine, ganja.
I'm sure I could get whatever Iwant from them, but you know,
I'm a former drug addict.
I cannot.
I'm not doing any drugs right,so it was kind of hard for me.
But like, this is the thing thatpeople don't understand about
(17:22):
Pattaya.
So everyone say Pattaya is thesin city.
You know it's the city thatpeople don't understand about
Pattaya.
So everyone say Pattaya is thesin city.
It's the city that everyonefucking all the time and
drinking all the time andwhatever.
But you don't see, like thedrugs here are not as accessible
as in Bangkok.
Like, of course, everywhere youare in the world you can get
drugs whatever you want, butit's so accessible in there,
(17:44):
even the taxi drivers all thetaxi drivers that we took offer
us drugs huh, yeah, really, yeah, everyone.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So I gotta say, like that is open for that more than
in pastries, yeah, but I?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I don't think it's a good thing you know it's not,
that's not a good thing.
It's not.
It's extremely bad, becausethis is a shitty reputation for
the city yeah, and like Iunderstand here.
Well, it might change soon, butyeah, you have many like weed
shops everywhere because for nowit's still kind of legal right.
I understand that no problem aslong as it's legal.
(18:18):
But why I have to feel like I'mbeing hassled on the street all
the time to buy drugs yeah,right now, that's not it.
So we went to a few other placesand we ended the night at a
place called it's kind of theepic bar of Bangkok, so it's the
late hours bar that you cancome like from 8 in the morning
(18:42):
until, and also there, first ofall, extremely expensive drinks,
and what they actually sell islike balloons filled with, like
you know, laughing gas.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I just know that.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, and then, like, you buy it, you put it in your
mouth, you take the gas in andthen you get a high Right,
everything is around involvingaround getting high there.
You know, I really didn't likethe experience, the environment,
not only because I'm formerdrug addict, because I think
it's so different from what youhave in Pattaya.
Pattaya is more yeah, considerthe sin city, but it's such a
(19:22):
nice city, it's like a villagecompared to Bangkok, like
everyone know, everyone, almosteveryone, is friendly, right,
and, to tell you the truth, Idon't think I will be back to
Bangkok no, I understand, sorryto hear that, and yeah, and that
is like maybe it's going to bethe point.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
That is why tourists doesn't come to travel around
Bangkok.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
But there are tourists in Bangkok.
I think, like if you count howmany tourists actually visit
Bangkok compared to Pattaya,bangkok get more tourists,
because even people that come toThailand for 3-4 days, they
will stay in Bangkok, they willnot even bother to travel around
.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I understand because, like um, um, for some people
like to be in freedom more thanor have good people around.
Yeah of course.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I think everyone wants good people around.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, more than like just go somewhere else and offer
you this, offer you that or tryto get your how to say that?
Like buy you a drink.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, but buy me, hey .
Hey, can you buy me a drink issomething that you hear
everywhere.
Right, I don't mind that.
I don't mind even the pushinessbecause I can say no.
Right, it's not that hard forme to say no if I'm not
interested to buy a drink.
So I don't mind that.
But the whole like it feltwenshi, it felt dirty.
I don't know how to explainthat uh, yeah, I understand that
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way.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's like, um you know, like put put to you yeah
and make you uncomfortable yeah,I felt extremely uncomfortable,
though you're right, this isthe right word to say.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
The only thing like in my opinion that I do I I did
like about bangkok.
The only thing I think the foodthere is amazing.
Yeah, it's much more expensive,but like the variety of food
that you can get it.
You get there like any kind ofcuisine.
You can think about it, fromethiopian cuisine to whatever
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you can find, like we just Iwanted to eat ramen, right.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
You know, I like Japanese food.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
So the second night, me and Michelle before we went
back to Pattaya I told MichelleI want to eat ramen.
I looked like in Google and Ifound the best ramen restaurant,
which was like a kilometer anda half from our hotel.
We went there and it was likefull.
They said oh, you didn't makereservation, you cannot go
inside, so no problem.
And in that street where therestaurant was, the restaurant
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was called Uma Uma.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Uma, uma.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, so in that the same street where the Uma Uma
restaurant is, there were likeseveral restaurants Japanese
restaurants right, Uhrestaurants right.
So we went just to the underone and it was the best japanese
food I ever had in my life good, really yeah, it's nice, it was
amazing, not that expensive,but still more expensive than
pataya, but like a real japaneserestaurant, like everything
(22:34):
prepared in front of you.
The chef is in front of you evenfucking.
Everything that the tvs thatwere there on the like on the
wall, and everything, everythingwas japanese.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah so it.
It was nice.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I can't imagine that yeah, and it was a nice
experience it's good.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's good yeah, it's like um, yeah, some people they
just went to somewhere that'snice and they complain about, oh
, thailand or somewhere inThailand, like that's nice,
something like that but oh, youmean that there is still a good
point yeah, but I mean it's likeum much better if you go around
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.
I mean like travel around morethan just staying at tourist
place.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
So let me understand.
If I get you right.
You mean that if, let's say,you come to travel to thailand
like a general person, decide totake a vacation in thailand and
let's say you go to bangkokfirst and you not feel
comfortable, don't think thatall thailand is like that.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You mean this no, yeah, yeah, that's what you can
travel around and go otherplaces yes, yeah, that's what I
mean, because, um, that is notonly thing it happened in
thailand, because, like it'shave more about people, more cap
people you know in thailand somuch better to go around more
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looking some places like for you.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, and have a good time if, if let's someone,
let's say even from ourlisteners right, ask you what
are your three number one placesthat you have to visit?
What would you recommend Likecities, let's say you don't have
to say like certain points ineach city.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I got to say, like I have some places I can say very
nice, but I've never been before.
I want to be.
It's about like northern northThailand which city it's like um
Chiang.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Mai.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Okay, so number one, let's say Chiang Mai yeah,
what's your number two numbertwo is, um, I just know like
probably Rayon.
Okay, in my opinion, rayon youlike Rayon Rayon, because I've
said that before.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah it's kind of an industrial city.
You know, there are manyfactories over there.
I don't know about it reallylike the whole south, the whole
west area of Rayon is like fullof factories.
Yeah, but Like the whole south,the whole west area of Rayong
is like full of factories.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, but I mean it's like for the place, like quiet
place, and yeah, it's quieterthan Pattaya, of course, and you
still have some nightlife overthere.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have some, but it's like Pattaya
, of course it's like all night.
Nothing is like Pattaya.
Yeah, I'd say yeah, of coursethat's like all night.
Nothing is like Patea.
But yeah, I prefer to be therebecause I've stayed there before
and I feel like to be honest,the place had the beach, okay,
but that's like a busy beach.
Not many people.
(25:33):
You can stay and then relax,yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And also, from there you can go to Koh Samet, if you
want, for a night or two.
I've been to Koh Samet beforeMe too.
Yeah, it was okay.
Actually, when me and my exwere thinking about buying a
house in Thailand, we lookedinto Rayong, into Ban Chang.
You know Ban Chang.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I know Ban Chang.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
So we were looking to buy a house over there.
Eventually we decided not to.
But, yeah, this is like.
If I need to choose where tolive, I think rayong will be
like ban chang, or maybe satahipwill be the right area for me
because it's not too far frompataya, but it's still not main
city pataya, which can besometimes very overwhelming yeah
(26:17):
, yeah, it's like a village andyou can stay for a normal life.
You can have a normal life herealso.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes, it's like you don't wake up all night like
that.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, it's not like the city that doesn't sleep like
Pattaya.
There are actually certainhours that you will prefer to
sleep over there.
So you said Chiang Mai Raiyongand there are actually certain
hours that you will prefer tosleep over there.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So so you said Chiang Mai Rayong and it's hard to get
three, but of course, my home,zanaburi, really.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I don't know about other places, so you will not
recommend Pattaya for new goers.
You mean like for Someone thatnever been to Thailand.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Pattaya.
I gotta say Pattaya gotta belike, happen in everyone's mind
Like yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
You think everyone knows about Pattaya?
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Not know, but about like okay, the place I would
like to go when I come toThailand would be like Pattaya.
Okay, that is just like I thinkmany people have a plan about
that.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
We actually had a conversation about this.
I think it's you're kind ofright and kind of wrong.
I will explain what you mean.
So yeah, Pattaya is a knowncity in Thailand, but many
people, especially when theycome with families, try to avoid
Pattaya Because Pattaya havelike a bad name.
(27:40):
You know that, as we saidbefore, people think that the
only thing you can do here isdrinking and fucking and
partying all night, which isabsolutely not true.
Not true.
The next I think the nextepisode after this actually, we
are going to do with Scott aboutwhat we can do in Pattaya other
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than partying.
Ah, yeah so we will not exposeeverything right now, but we we
also enjoy some activities thatnot not include drinking and
stuff like that, because, listen, for people that stay here more
than a short vacation, youcannot drink every day no, you
can't, you will just getobliterated.
(28:21):
Yeah so you're healthy.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
It's not healthy and also it tends to be very
expensive, because when you'redrinking you're spending right
too much so I prefer my home,maybe for for visit some place
and then, like you can see howit's thing like different,
different way from like, I mean,it's like bangkok and that's
(28:44):
yeah, it's completely different,completely different.
It's like a yeah, sorry, moreabout about like a foreign
natural place okay like naturenature.
Yeah, okay, and my home so it'shad like river in my home is
more like mountain and riverlike that.
(29:05):
So it is maybe people wouldlike to visit for me, like shoot
out okay and see how differentyou want to say where is your
home?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Like not the village, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Sorry.
Where is your home?
Chantaburi, chantaburi,chantaburi.
Yes, okay, I know.
Where is that?
Do you want to explain to thelisteners?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Chantaburi is near by Thrat.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Okay, and Chantaburi yeah.
So it's almost Cambodia alreadyAlmost.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Almost Cambodia, almost Cambodia.
It's almost the border.
Yeah, I'm staying near Cambodia.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
What do you think about what's going on now with
Cambodia?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
For me, it's just more about people that have a
hard life more.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No, I mean, you heard that there is like altercation
between thailand and cambodiaright now.
I heard I heard that because,again, there are some like lands
that they don't agree.
Who should have those lands?
Right the same old story thathappened all over the world.
What do you think about thatlike?
Because for me, I alwaysthought like Thai people and
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Cambodian people are almost thesame.
They're like brothers, you know, cousins.
Okay, not brothers, but cousins.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
For me it's like just the way the place is, like in
Thailand, so I don't know whatis true, what is the real
history from that place.
But I'm gonna say, like peoplewho come to Thailand for work
(30:49):
from Cambodia yeah, cambodianpeople come to Thailand for
working, so they have to go backor Cambodian people I mean,
it's like Cambodian clothes tonot, it's like Cambodian clothes
to not Thai people to move liketravel around, but you do feel
that Cambodians are like thecousins of the Thai.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
You also think that for me.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I have like I have how to say that, like like an
uncle, or yeah, they are likerelatives, yeah, like this.
They are from Cambodia.
Yeah, they are like relatives,yeah, like this they they are
from Cambodia.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, they're from Cambodia.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, so even the families are like mixed
sometimes, yeah yeah, sometimes,but for me I doesn't need them
for long for the last time it'slike I'm just a baby okay but
still, you have family there.
Yeah, yeah, but I know I havefamily in Cambodia yeah so I
feel like, yeah, that's afeeling good.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, and also many Thais, especially in the
provinces that near Cambodia,can speak Khmer.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Many of them Like my ex all of her family.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
most of the time when they speak with each other,
they don't even speak Thai.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
They speak Khmer family most of the time when
they speak each other, with eachother.
They don't even speak thai,they speak america.
So yeah, so there is this likeum home home language yeah more
than you speak thai because,like um kamehameha language,
this is feel comfortable more tospeak, of course, because you
grew into it right yeah, but forme I'm, I can't you cannot I, I
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just speak a little, not enoughto understand, like if I put
you in cambodia.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
No you cannot you just result to speaking thai and
english?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
yes, because um I'm gonna say like a new generation.
Then maybe it's like I wasn'treally interested about kmer
language.
Okay, I can understand some,but you know I don't like to
speak.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I understand that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
So that's why I try to.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Because my home they are, they can't speak Khmer, I
think because many Cambodianpeople come to Pattatea to walk
in the bars also.
Oh, yeah right, so I think youcan learn from them a little bit
, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, it should be like that because I'm staying
nearby and but for people who Imet from Cambodia.
So, yeah, like quiet, like tobe quiet and feeling like they
are shy to talk with, so that'swhy I never had like friend from
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cambodian okay I understandthat I'm working, but yeah, I'm
working with them, so I knowthem.
Know some people, but not manyokay.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yes, I have another question for you, not Not about
this subject, so me, michelleand Scott, we were wondering.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
So how serious is that with that guy.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Now this question yeah, is it?
Yeah, really, because we spokeabout it.
Hey, where is Pim?
What's going on?
Normally, pim meets us almostevery day.
We go eating together, we goparty together, we go party
together, we go wherever.
Now we don't see Pim anymore.
Yeah, I understand.
I'm going to say Like from zeroto ten.
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How serious is that right now?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
For now it's like 50-50.
Can I say it like that?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Before.
I'm feeling like I'm almostlike 100, almost 100 serious,
but I feel like when what isgoing on?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
for now I feel like I could like play serious more
okay because, um, it doesn'tfeeling comfortable if it's too
serious, you know oh, you feellike you're too invested in that
and then you just took a stepback.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, yeah, okay so because, because it's as like,
not as like, but it's his firsttime about that, first time to
have like boyfriend can say likeI don't know how people treat
each other when they're being, Ican tell you what not to do.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
What not to do Don't yack, yack, don't slap him
Really.
Don't yack, yack, don't slaphim.
Don't drink too much, that's it, just be normal.
Watch Netflix together, go eattogether, have fun together.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
You know three of things you said he did
everything, really he did so.
He yaki yaki you, he slap younot not slap like, but you know
um a bit aggressive, like pushyou or something like that no,
no, no, just like a play, it'slike a place, okay, I guess,
like that if play is fun, havefun, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
But about and drinking too much, yes, oh, I'm
sorry, it's all right.
It's all right.
That's not a good recipe for adelicious relationship.
You know what I mean, Iunderstand.
But, Especially because you'renot drinking too much.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
So if both of the Like the couple together they're
drinking, okay, it might work.
You know they just get drunktogether and enjoy.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
It's like a spark together.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah but if just one person is drinking and the other
one is not, so into drinking.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
It's just feeling like a contrast about how is
growing a lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
And you think now it's more easy for you to get
into a relationship becauseyou're not walking the bars
anymore.
No, I mean, I will explain whatI mean.
So, as we spoke about Scottbefore, it's very difficult for
him to get into a relationshipbecause many of the girls that
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he meets are actually walkingthe bars.
So if he doesn't want them togo with other customers, he has
to buy them off the bar.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
And then he has to take care of them.
So immediately, from zerorelationship it turns out to be
100% relationship, because thatperson completely relies on you.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I understand Because, okay, I don't want you to work,
so how would I have money?
And like all those stuff.
And because you're not workingin the bar, I think you're more
available for relationship rightnow, because if you meet
someone it will be just natural.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
For me it's like I gotta say I change my mind.
You mean like opening check, orit's like before I think, okay,
probably maybe I'm not workinga bar and maybe I have.
You have you seem for headrelationship, you know.
But for me now it's likedoesn't, doesn't drift in
(37:41):
doesn't want is.
It doesn't drift in how to canhave relationship you're less
interested in relationship now.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Huh, you feel you feel like you're less interested
in relationship now not less,not less.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I feel in the same way in a bar, but for me it's
like what is going on isdifferent, because I think it
depends on the person more thanabout what you do.
Okay, yeah.
No matter what if you work in abar, but you have luck with
love.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, but this is what I'm asking you you think
it's more easy to find a realrelationship with someone that
is not working in the barbecause not have all this
pressure of she has to work, shehas to make money, she has to
go with new customers and thenyou know, you don't think it's
(38:35):
like more natural environment tomeet people and go on dates
with people that not walk in thebus?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, it's more.
I mean it's like more to behave relationship easy Because,
like you don't have to worryabout oh, where she's going or
where who my girlfriend can staywith.
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I'm feeling like for bar girlsthey're working and they know
what they do.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Of course, the men also know, this is how they meet
them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not likeoh, I go to the bar and this
girl really likes me and we aregoing to my room and whatever
you know.
No, of course you know he paidfor that.
He knows this is her job.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
And it's like a business sometimes.
So it's just doesn't nice to dowith relationship, like real
relationship.
But for me I'm feeling like Iget.
I get better.
I mean it's better forrelationship feeling so because
(39:52):
I can.
Before, when I'm talking withsome guys they always say like
oh, because you're working a bar, you're gonna meet a guy.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Oh you have customers wait, wait.
Say again I, I need you to bespecific.
He said so you meet some guy.
And then what he said to you, Imean it's like before, when I
work in a bar when you're stillworking.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, when I'm still working a bar and then like I'm
just get like many equation fromyou have a the same creation
from many guys like text me likeyou have customer tonight or
you're gonna go out with a guy.
Oh and feeling like and feelinglike you doesn't trust me.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
It's like oh wait, so you mean someone that you're
already seeing?
Yeah, and he always asks youwhat you're doing, what you're
someone that you're alreadyseeing, and he always asks you
what are you doing?
What are you doing?
What are?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
you doing, not like that, but it just makes the
creation to be like feelinguncomfortable to have a
relationship, because much moreone person should be able to
stay with one person.
But when ladies work in a barhave to make money, yeah, you
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have a customer going out andthen like, if someone you really
like to be in the relationship,but they, you know you work in
a bar, you have to meet guy formoney, yeah, so they're gonna
make like bad job, you know whatI mean.
Like bad joke with creation.
Like you're going to havecustomer tonight like that.
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How many customer you have asklike that?
And the feeling like, yeah,that's why.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
But this normally happen in a long distance
relationship.
So when this guy is not longerin Thailand, right, he's back
home and he's still curiousabout what's going on with you.
Yeah, yeah, it's like that.
Yeah, but I guess it's not.
First of all, it doesn't matterif it's with thai lady or any
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other person in the world.
It's very hard to maintain longdistance relationship.
Very hard because there is thetime difference, there is the
cultural difference, there isalso the fact that you know
people not trust each othersometimes yeah because normally
long distance relationshiphappen in the first phase of the
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relationship, especially incities like Pattaya or all those
places in the world, and thenyou still didn't, you don't have
, you don't have like a trust,trust relationship because oh, I
don't know her enough, I don'tknow, maybe she's lying to me,
maybe she's using me, maybe what, whatnot?
And the girl think the same.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Maybe he's lying to me, maybe he's using me, maybe
he's like yeah, it's whathappened with me before you had
a long distance relationshipbefore yeah, and I'm feeling
like, um sorry, it's like more,more than more than happen.
(42:53):
It's just like doesn't haverelationship because it doesn't
work if you still that's a trashorder.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, but let's say in.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
If in that certain relationship, he told you okay,
pim, I need to go home, I buyyou out of the bar and I give
you, let's say, 30 000 everymonth, go back home.
Would you feel more comfortablein that relationship?
For, for that thing, it's justlike not because of the money,
(43:24):
because you don't have to work,I mean yeah, yeah, everyone like
had to work.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I mean it.
Yeah, yeah, everyone like hadto work.
I mean it's like cannot.
If someone do that to me, I'mgoing to say, like you cannot
stop me to working, maybe I'mgoing to work as like a normal
job.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Normal job?
Okay, yeah, but he will tellyou listen, don't stay in
Pattaya, please.
Yeah, go out of Pattaya.
I don't want you to stay here,because I know you're beautiful.
People will come to you in thestreet and they will want to
stay with you and it's verytempting, you know, okay, I can
make another five thousand, butI can make another four thousand
, but you know, for me it's likeif you, if you know you really
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like this guy, really love thisguy to be in a relationship, you
know, but I don't know himenough yet.
Huh, let's say, you just met him, I, you don't know him for many
, many years.
Yeah, that's a really coolweeks, maybe a few months.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
That's a really close .
Yeah, I understand that.
That's like you have to makesure you probably think about
money or about relationship.
If I'm going to say, if Iprefer, if I'm just thinking
about money, I need this money.
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So maybe say no.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
You would rather still working in the bar and
make money, or still not in thebar but still freelance, like go
with customers for moneysometimes maybe that maybe that
way is easy, okay.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
But yeah, I had like, um, I'm just in the, uh, I'm
just in that guy then like I'mat the bar, yeah, and then I'm
doesn't do freelance and I dofreelance after that, and then
like until wait, wait.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
So you stay with him.
You're not walking the ballanymore.
He go back home and you stillfreelance, sometimes when he
don't know uh, that before notnot the last time okay, uh-huh
so for last time it's likefeeling trust each other more
than but what is going on?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
is this bad?
Bad part, I gotta say it's justthat thing happened about um,
the weather and experience onthis time is on this holiday
doesn't really well but we aretalking about the same guy.
Oh my god so it is like morethan I can trust with about what
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he said.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
So if before you trust him, 100 now you're not
trusting 100 anymore it's.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
It's like a trust in the way relationship doesn't
like this trust in the waycustomer come see me like that
yeah, I'm not saying a customer,yeah, yeah, all this
conversation, I didn't call hima customer, yeah I call him your
guy, right?
So I feel feel like I havefeeling less trust in the
relationship.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
May I ask what he did to make you feel that?
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Okay, you're going to say it.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
You don't have to say specific, but in general.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Just let me just leave me alone in the room going
on Really For, say, like fullone week.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
And you wanted to go out with him.
Yeah, and he didn't even offeryou.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
What the fuck.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
No, it's like the time is different and the plan
is we have plan.
It's like I have my plan, hehas his plan.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
I understand, but you wanted to hang out with him
yeah, try to.
You know you wanted you said,if you want to go out, I want to
go with him, right?
Speaker 2 (47:20):
yeah, yeah and he didn't offer to you it's about
like um, maybe it's like I'mcoming back to the room late
because I'm going to meet afriend, we do the podcast, and
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when I get back it's like he'sgone already.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
And then I try to contact but he doesn't and you
think he's fucking around forbefore you suspect not think
Like try to contact but hedoesn't.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
And you think he's fucking around For before.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
No, like you suspect not think you suspect that he's
fucking around.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
For first.
I probably don't think aboutthat For first.
That's happened with me.
It's like maybe he did thatBecause it's just many times,
it's more than just one timetime.
We did like three or threetimes, but for now it's like no
matter what, if you doesn't knowhim that well, you should too.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Doesn't really trust and make you feeling like he's
mine, but like feeling like okay, we just start yeah, you know,
I was speaking with scott aboutthis, so he gave like an example
not example, but he said likewhen he came to patria, this
(48:44):
time he actually came forsomeone special.
There was one lady boy that hereally liked and he left
everything behind and he camehere in order to meet her, right
, and things didn't work out andthey didn't hang like, it
didn't become like a couple.
I don't think they even meetmore than two times, three times
(49:06):
.
But he said to me the other daythat if everything worked out,
worked out between them when hecame to Pattaya, he think he
will still be with her and itmight be a really long
relationship.
And I said no, you're lying.
So why am I lying?
I say why am I lying?
I say because for guys, whenthey come to Pattaya, there is a
(49:33):
lot of temptation, right, yeah,first I know.
Let's say you and me, forexample, let's say I know you
for a long time, right?
And then I'm excited, I'm hey,pim, soon I come Pattaya to stay
with you, right, and you'rebeautiful and I'm happy with you
, and we stay together and we goout.
And then I see, oh, yeah, thereis another lady or lady boy that
(49:54):
I like, and another and another, you know, and the temptation
here is very real because youactually can be.
If you have the right money,you can be with everyone,
exactly.
So I'm not sure that if hewould be with that girl he will
(50:15):
not fuck around.
Not, I'm not saying all guysfuck around, I'm just saying
that the temptation is very big.
It's very accessible here, bythe way, also for the ladies and
the lady boys that work here,because, let's be honest, most
of the guys that you will end upin a relationship with will be
(50:38):
much older than you.
Sorry, okay, so, but most ofthe guys that you will end up in
relationship with them will bemuch older than you.
Wait, not as good looking asyou, right, yeah, maybe they
have money, but that's it.
And for you, you also oh,that's thai guy is very handsome
(50:58):
, or, oh, I like this farang,like he's handsome.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Also, there are temptations for you, yeah, yeah
so it's very hard it's very hardremember this city does involve
drinking a lot.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
So when you're drunk you feel like, okay, I'm ready
to party, I want to like to meetsomeone.
Yeah, I understand that's aproblem.
That's a problem.
Also, I'm not saying thatrelationship in Pattaya cannot
work.
They can.
They most certainly can work.
Yeah, they can.
They most certainly can walk.
But it have to be first of all,you have to start from the right
(51:34):
place that both sides actuallyattracted to each other, not
only because of the money orbecause of the age difference or
what not, and actually theyhave things in common that they
like to do like a regularrelationship.
For example, if you neverwalked in Pattaya and you still
stay in your hometown, you willgo out with guys that are
(51:55):
actually interested for you,right?
Oh, he likes the same movies Ilike.
Oh, he reads the same books.
Oh, he does the same activitiesI do, like there is something
in common and I'm attracted tohim.
I'm not thinking about his money.
I'm thinking about oh, he'sgood looking, I want to have sex
with him.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I know.
So this has to be the base fora relationship here, in my
(52:22):
opinion, in order for arelationship to work here and
that's not happening many times.
No, no, no, because again I canguess, without even knowing
that the average age of yourcustomers, the average right,
the average age age of yourcustomers is about 45, maybe 50
(52:46):
it's like a start from more,less from 30.
30.
Start, 30.
, 30.
And maximum.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Maximum 70?
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Probably yeah.
So if we find the middle, it'sabout 50.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yeah, it's about 50, 45.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah, so it's even a bit more than 50.
It doesn't matter, but this isthe average age of the guys that
you are seeing here.
Right, and I know for a factthat ladies in the bars, ladies
and ladyboys, when a young mancomes in the bar, even if he's
not that good looking, but, theyare excited.
(53:24):
Oh, he's a young guy, there iseven competition who will get
him?
You know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, I know, I know.
So this is something that Ithink can work.
This is what I'm saying.
If there is not a big age gap.
For example, me and my ex,there was only one year between
us.
(53:44):
One year, one year.
So I met her when I was 29,something like that, and she was
28.
Oh, oh, I was 30 and she was 29.
So there is not much agedifference, right, we did have
some things in common, right?
And immediately I told her okay, I'm going back, we are not a
(54:09):
couple yet.
I came again, I met her again,stayed with her.
Okay, I'm going back, we arenot a couple yet.
I came again, I met her again,stayed with her the whole time,
went home again, and then I toldher listen, I'm coming in a few
months.
When I'm coming, I want twothings I want to meet your
family and I want to take youout of the bar, because until
then I knew she's seeing otherguys, she's going with customers
, she's whatnot, right.
(54:30):
But then she went out of thebar and then we started planning
Okay, I want you to come to mycountry.
Ah, so I think I made it theright way, you know Right way,
yeah, Not just for example Iwill not say names, but someone
that just first time came toPattaya and then, oh, I'm in
love with this girl, I'm goingto spend my whole life with her,
(54:52):
blah, blah, blah, and he's justinvesting everything he have.
I understand, you think that'shealthy, huh?
You think it's healthy for theguy, like for the girls?
Speaker 2 (55:03):
it's amazing she get a lot of money, a lot of gold.
It's the dream, right?
Yes, I dream, but forget that,because most likely he will lose
everything yeah, it's like umfeeling, feeling happy with with
that, and like the point is youhave to spend money and you
(55:25):
don't really know the otherperson yeah, yeah, but it's like
much more to learn people, butnot like just just trying to
know the other guy, man, yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
It's, it's difficult.
How many people, for example,how many good relationships you
know that started in Pattaya,Long, lasting relationship.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
You mean like I know some people have.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
That have relationship still going on,
like maybe three years, fouryears, five years, six years
with France.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Me.
No, no, people that you know,People that I know, I mean I
think I doesn't say who.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
You don't have to say the name, but you know anyone
that actually have successfulokay five yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
I know, I know for some, but it's like lesson for
over a year, but more than likehappen stay for two months and
they end.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah if you would have to say what is the number
reason of relationship that endsin Pattaya.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
I don't know.
I think probably they're overhere.
No, no no.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
What is the number one reason?
Number one reason yeah, yeah,sorry that relationship ends in
yeah I think about the job thatworking a bar is the first
reason that the lady is stillworking the bar, and it's hard
for the guy and hard for thegirl also yeah, it's hard for
(57:06):
each other would you say, likeif?
If someone would ask me, Iwould say in my opinion is the
money factor yeah, this is whatI mean, like uh because
sometimes the girls think, okay,you want to talk with me every
day.
You're back home, right, but youstill want to talk with me
every day.
You don't want I go with people.
(57:27):
When I do go with people, youfucking continue.
Send me message every twominutes.
What's going on?
You want me to call you videoall the time?
Show you, at least pay for me,right, the minimum you can do is
give me like 30 000.
Okay, then maybe I can say Ijust work for drinks, right, I
still would fuck around, but youwould.
You wouldn't know.
But it's this I'm not doing likelong times you know, but the
(57:52):
money I think is the most is thebiggest cause of relationship
to ends in Pattaya.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
I think so because, like what has happened is like
when I meet people liketerrorists and they like to talk
about like, okay, they'reinspiring about girl ladies,
little boy and kids behind theylike it More.
The problem is about money.
Yeah, it's like they're feelingspend a lot of money but they
(58:24):
doesn't get love.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
Yeah, you cannot buy love.
Love is not obtained by money,so we don't have much more time,
so anything you want to say toour listeners so I gotta say
this is the first time.
I've come around thank youeveryone.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
thank you for being always supporting me and my and
support we are for now.
Guys, I thank you so much, loveyou guys.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
And I want to say again thank you, guys.
I know it took a while, but wedid it and this is going to be
the format from now on.
So I hope you like it, I hopeyou enjoy it.
Please, if you can I knoweveryone say that, but you don't
know how much every like andsubscribe and a comment from you
matters extremely.
And another thing the only waythat we are able to do that is
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So thank you for our supportersand, if you can, please just
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It it will be in the show notes, because I don't really
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