June 2, 2025 • 66 mins
Ever felt that strange, hollow sensation when paradise starts to feel like a prison? Mike opens up about experiencing "Pattaya Burnout" – that peculiar emotional slump that can hit long-term visitors to Thailand's famous party city. Though surrounded by endless nightlife and entertainment options, he's been wrestling with feelings of disconnection, financial drain, and the physical toll of constant nocturnal living.
Pim brings her perspective as someone who successfully transitioned from bar work to daytime living, sharing how this shift dramatically improved her wellbeing. The conversation dives deep into what creates genuine human connections in a place where most relationships feel transactional. Can three real friendships be enough when you're far from home? How do you find meaning beyond the bars and nightclubs?
The pair explore how modern life's obsession with documenting experiences rather than living them contributes to our collective emptiness. Remember concerts where people actually danced instead of holding up phones? The discussion weaves through practical strategies for improving mental health – from changing sleep patterns to finding purpose-driven activities and reconnecting with Thailand's natural beauty and culinary delights.
This candid, unfiltered bonus episode offers a thoughtful examination of expatriate life's emotional challenges, the search for authenticity in tourist-heavy environments, and how simple changes in routine can profoundly impact happiness. Whether you're planning a visit to Thailand or just navigating life's occasional emotional dips, this conversation reminds us that feeling down sometimes is universal – but so is our ability to find new balance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike and sadly I'm stilldoing this without my lovely,
lovely wife Sonali.
But you know who's here.
Hello, pim, hi, how are youdoing?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm doing good thanks , how about?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
you, well, so-so.
Normally I say always good, butI don't know, lately, I think,
for the past almost a week, I'mfeeling down.
Now.
I don't know if it's gotsomething to do with the
episodes that we recorded withour friend John, because it did
(00:39):
affect me.
It was a very emotional episode.
Yeah, yeah, I, I think so.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, it's a very emotional episode.
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Yeah, it's very emotional.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
But in my opinion, it's not only about that.
Like I'm thinking what are youdoing, pim?
Is this?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
going to move?
No, it's moving automatically.
Okay, cool.
It's okay, okay, cool, it'sokay is this is gonna say like
it's the first time I'm um learnhow to.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
To start, to yeah, now I, I let you to be in charge
on the recording and everything.
Yeah, yeah, but don't be, don'tworry about it everything is
automatically and you just needto focus on our conversation.
And you just need to focus onour conversation, okay, so, as I
said for the last, about sevenor ten days, I'm feeling a bit
(01:34):
down, and first of all I want totalk about something that maybe
you don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It's called Pattaya Burnout you heard about this
before Pattaya Burn.
You heard?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
about this before.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Pattaya burnout.
Yeah, is this?
Does this look like a war,something like that?
Burnout.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
No, no, Burnout means like something that was burned
Like fire.
So Pattaya burnout is somethingthat happened to many people
that come here, especially forwhen they stay here a long time.
So let's say you're going outand partying every day and
(02:15):
sometimes you're drinking andfucking and enjoying yourself
and everything.
Sometimes you reach a pointthat you ask yourself why.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Why yeah the question ?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
yeah, the question, the question, yeah, why?
And then when you ask why,there are many answers in your
mind that you don't want to hear.
So sometimes people just gettired of it and normally if you
read on forums or Reddit orstuff like that, people say the
best way to eliminate Pattayaburnout is to actually go out
(02:53):
from Pattaya for two or threedays, let's say go to Rayong or
go to some island or just evengo to another city.
It doesn't have to be somethinglike that, just to change the
environment.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So I was wondering first if I have Pattaya burnout.
I don't think so, you don'tthink so.
I don't think so because youknow me, I'm not drinking too
much.
Yeah, I know and I'm notpartying too much.
Normally I don't stay in many,many, many bars.
I have one or two bars that Ilike and I stay there.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Just meet friends like that.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, normally for meet friends and sit with nice
people and have goodconversations.
But, to be honest, lately Ifelt a bit hurt from some people
that were close to me and Idon't know if it's something
(03:54):
that I did personally or justsometimes people get to a
certain point that they feelthat they don't want to be
around you anymore or stuff likethat, but I got this feeling
lately.
This is one thing.
(04:16):
The second thing is about youknow, when you spend a lot of
time here, you spend a lot ofmoney.
Obviously I mean as a touristright in the so you have to pay
for the hotel, you have to payfor the drinks and the food and
the the transportation andeverything and you know if, if,
(04:38):
if I compare thailand, forexample, to my country, yeah, th
Thailand is cheaper.
Yeah, but everything is addingup right.
Right, right so eventually,each month, you spend a certain
amount of money, which can besometimes a lot and sometimes
not that much, but you're still.
(04:58):
You're only spending.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, right, that's spending yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
And so this is part of it.
So it's the friend situation,the spending situation.
Yeah, and also, by the way,don't worry about the sound.
I will show you later how todelete the sound in the
recording, so you don't have toworry about it so yeah, I gotta
(05:24):
say this like it's called, likebonus, is it called?
Yeah, it will be a bonusepisode, episode yeah so I don't
know when we will upload it.
It might be in a week from now,yeah, but when we will upload it
, it will not be on friday, itwill be just on a random day,
right?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
it's like a, it's like um, it's, it's mike, um,
it's mike.
Uh, how is it like a?
What?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
when you get like a, create it like it's my thing to
do this one because I yeah,because um, you guess you say
it's a surprise to your listeneryeah, not only surprise, but a
little bit out of the routinebecause, normally we only upload
on friday, friday, friday oneepisode each week and I thought
(06:12):
like I really care about ourlisteners and I know some of
them are actually enjoying whatwe are talking about normally
and I thought why not doing somesometime in random?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
episode.
You know, it looks like areality, like look like real.
More than Every episode we do,everything is real.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's just an organic conversation, right
yeah yeah, right, so back toyour story.
It's not a story.
It's like I wanted to tell youthat I'm feeling a bit down.
Yeah, what are you feeling?
I try to process it and tounderstand the reason behind it.
So another reason that I'mthinking that mostly I go out at
(06:59):
night, right At night, I comeback, let's say, 5 in the
morning, 6 in the morning, and Iwake up again eight.
I normally I not see any light,right?
Yeah, so it might be also thisbecause you know it's very
important to to get exposed tothe sun sometimes, right, you
know, and stay in the night allthe time.
(07:21):
It's very heavy on the body, isit?
Yeah, and I do try.
By the way, I thought you wouldsay that I do try to eat better
so I not eat as much as junkfood as normally.
Yeah, so I do try to eat morevegetables and fruit and yeah
good, good stuff, good stuff,yeah, and, as I said before, I'm
(07:43):
not drinking too much, so Idon't think it's the food.
So what do you think can cause?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
because I know it's not just something that I feel
everyone feel down sometimeswhat caused you, for example,
like a can I say it's like um?
Example from my, from myexperience when I left the bar
(08:13):
yeah, yeah and then I'm changedfrom usually do night time.
I mean like uh for working atnight.
Yeah, stay in the night time anight routine right yeah, then
change like spend more with daytime and sleep at night, spend
(08:34):
more day time, and then it'sjust like it's much better, you
feel better, you feel better no,no, I ask you.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You feel better?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
yeah, I do, I no.
No, I ask you, you feel better.
Yeah, I do, I do.
Okay, yeah, it's just like whenyou're feeling like you do this
, like every day you do, but itdoesn't routine For you.
It doesn't routine.
No, it's not routine for you,but you do it every day because
(09:05):
you're's just a routine.
No, it's not routine for you,but you did every day because
you're feeling like had to do isthis, is this like that?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
it was your.
Oh, you asked me.
You mean, I feel like I have togoing out?
Go out every night and sit thesame three or four bars that I
go to.
Yeah, no, I don't feel like Ihave to do.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And I'm not feeling like I'm missing out when I'm
not there.
And then it is like you now.
You're not usually going out atnight now or sometime.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I feel I'm going less Less and also I not stay up so
late.
For example, yesterday I cameback to my room around two 2am,
which is much earlier than Inormally go yeah, and then
you're, you're asleep and youget up early today.
Today actually not, because Ihad to change rooms- yeah, yeah.
(10:06):
So today I waited in my roomand watched movie and Like spend
your time.
Yeah, until 8 in the morning and8 in the morning I checked out
of my old room and I came tothis room, to the new one, which
is, in my opinion, is a goodroom.
This is very nice.
Come on it.
This is very nice.
Ah, come on, it's not very nice.
(10:26):
We've been to Michel room.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Michel room is very nice, don't compare that is like
another prize, yeah, but yeah,in my opinion it's like is it
doesn't?
Doesn't feeling like you didthat and you're try to change to
do like did what?
Um, I mean like you not go, younot go late and you're like
(10:52):
late, go out night and thenyou're back room early, sleep
and get up early.
Is it like um, you're?
You say like um, you move room,yeah, and you're watching movie
and you know.
You say like you move room andyou're watching movie.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I spend more time with myself this is like.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
sometimes people just like do what other do I mean
like for people the most peopledo Like do what others do I mean
like for people, the mostpeople do.
And you like that, you followbut you don't know you follow
(11:34):
them.
Can you give me an example?
It's like when you see peoplemost people do this, like most
people do go out at night andyou're feeling like you're here
and people at night, yeah, butin this city, I find Okay, let
me start from the beginning.
This city is very interesting.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
You have many things to do in the night time, the day
time, the afternoon.
There is always something to doin this city.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Right.
It's a city without sleepWithout sleep, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Everyone can find any time of the day something to do
so, but but the night time isthe most interesting times, uh
yeah, yeah, yeah like I think,from 9 pm until4 am yeah, this
is the crazy time five, sixdepend.
There are some I will not nameit because we cannot say the
(12:23):
name but some clubs here openuntil one afternoon.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, so just because Pattaya never sleeps.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, so yeah, you're partially right.
So yeah, when I come to Pattaya, normally I like to enjoy the
nightlife more, right?
And also, thailand is very hot,and humid and daytime.
You just go out after threeminutes you're already sweating
yeah, you know you just showered, you smell ice, you feel good,
(12:54):
and then you go out and you'realready sticky.
Yeah, you know what I mean yeahso.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
So if you can choose it, you're gonna get sweat, or
you can go out night and feelinglike night.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, night is also hot sometimes sometimes,
sometimes, but yeah yeah, soit's more comfortable to go out
in the night.
And, yeah, if you are spendingmost of your time in the
shopping centers or restaurantsor everything is air-conditioned
, so there is no problem withthat, right, it's not?
Problem but when you're walkingdown the street or you want to
just you around or gosightseeing for example From the
(13:26):
people that don't like getsweat.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I can say I'm Thai people, but I'm feeling I cannot
stay in that hot place.
I mean like feeling hot yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You would prefer a place like Scandinavia, for
example?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I can.
If I can move, I gotta move tolike the place have snow every
day or like a very cold likecanada.
Oh, it's not great yeah, is itis it?
Is it the way I want?
But I'm in thailand.
You know what I mean.
Is it thailand?
So it's all like a can saythailand, always summer, yeah,
(14:10):
it's always hot and humid theproblem is not only the heat,
it's the humid.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So you're sweating all the time.
Yeah, but it's part of this.
So this is the reasons.
Normally, when I come tothailand, the first month or
whatever, I don't know dependson how long is my vacation.
So I stay mostly at thenighttime, right, but I do want
to change the routine and to seeif it will make me feel better.
(14:36):
But also, sometimes people getto to feel a bit lonely here.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Because, even though you are partying each night and
you are meeting new people andladies and ladyboys- and
whatever, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Men.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Men, yeah, it doesn't matter.
At the end of the day, there isnot too many real connections
here.
You know what I mean.
Oh, yeah, no, like I give anexample, me and you.
I know we have a realconnection, right.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
We are friends.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
We are sharing this podcast and we're going out.
We are going out, we hang outtogether, yeah we are going to
dinners as friends, right asfriends.
There is no like romanticinvolvement here.
It's just being friends and weenjoy that right.
But normally you don't findmany good connections here, Even
with other foreigners.
Sometimes the connections thatI see in the bars is only about
(15:34):
drinking or playing pooltogether, but there is nothing
behind it sometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Is this like a?
For me, the behind is like theymade money.
I mean it's like they mademoney.
I mean it's like no, no, I meanforeigners to foreigners.
Foreigners.
Foreigners, Ah, I canunderstand.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I'm talking about this.
So, for example, wait, I willtouch the point that you just
said, but before, before, I tryto explain.
Like you, you know me already,you know friends here, and some
of the connections you make hereare very superficial and there
is nothing behind it.
Some and some of them are deep,but there is always this
(16:10):
distance because, first of all,everyone coming for a different
background, different countryand like to do different stuff.
So I think, if I really, really, really need to count how many
people here I do consider as myfriends, real friends and not
just friends from the bar, maybethree.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Three.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Including you, maybe three.
Seriously, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
But because you said you spend night time like many
days, many nights like like.
You spend night time like likemany days, many night like, but
you have driven like with thegood connection.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Three people that I feel that my connection with
them is genuine is a realconnection between two people
that meet and have sharedinterest and we can talk about
and there is no pressure aboutwe have to meet or not meet.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Oh, whenever you feel like you can go meet each other
or go eat or go even sometimesgo party together.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Right, I will not say who, but one of our, my friend,
and it's a person that you knowalso, he know where, at which
bar, I sit normally right and healways just send me a text.
Okay, I will show up soon.
Are you there?
And he's coming there and wesit a little bit, we drink a
(17:34):
little bit, we have fun, andthen he goes to his, to his
business, you know.
I mean he go to do whatever youwant there is no pressure
behind it.
But you know what's that?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Is this.
What was I going to say?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
No, I'm going to say that it's a city that's supposed
to make you feel not alone, butsometimes you feel extremely
lonely in this city Because, forexample and I go back to what
you speak about so let's saythere is a random farang let's
call him Johnny, it doesn'tmatter the name, right, he comes
(18:16):
here and maybe he go out withladyboys or ladies or men, it
doesn't matter who every night,but he pays for that, Uh-huh.
And after he pays for that,that's it right, in order to
meet them again, what do youhave to do?
You have to pay again.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You have to pay again .
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Right, so it's not a real connection.
So yeah, it might be sexualconnection or not have to be
sexual it can only like, forexample, maybe he took her for a
date right, so he spent moneyfor dinner.
Maybe bought her some nice giftif he wanted or whatever, he's
still spending money.
But there is no connection oflike two people, just like we
(18:59):
are doing now.
Hey, for example, today I sentyou a message.
Hey, pim, I feel a bit down.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, yeah, sure, I'm coming soon.
Yeah, I'd be like that.
Yeah, it's like is this afriend?
Yeah, like, is this like a whatA friend for each other like
doesn't have any pleasure, likeyou have to pay money.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
you have to, yeah, but not only about the money,
about the, the understanding ofokay, this person uh need me now
, or yeah, or just, you know Igive you another example, okay.
For example if I will not sendyou message for one week, you
will fucking worry, I know youyeah you will come here.
(19:44):
Knock on the door, Mike, you'rehere, everything's okay, I
probably yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
say your message like how about my friend that I've
been missing?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
for a little while.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, like that yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
So this is a real connection and it's something
that many people that come here,especially if they've come here
alone, if they come here alone,without group of friends, they
will experience it right.
Yeah, and yeah, like I kind ofexperience it sometimes.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
You know, everyone experience it sometimes, but
here, when you are away fromyour own country, and your own
friends or your family orwhatnot, and you had to like
come in and see new things, newfriends.
You had to stay alone.
Anyone cannot stay alone at aconcert.
You must have friends.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
You know what?
I had a conversation withGuillaume the other day.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Guillaume is again the owner of the Boulogne store.
No, I'm telling to thelisteners, of course you know.
Yeah, I know the owner of thebull is the one.
No, I'm telling to thelisteners, of course you know.
Yeah and he.
I was speaking with him aboutthis in general and he said that
for him is not a problem.
He preferred to be alone.
Like if you put him in a roomalone for one month, he will be
so happy, he will be productive,he will do much more things
(21:02):
that he normally do, becausethis is his personality.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's like for a call.
It's like how do you say thatlike an introvert person?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
yeah, he is he can go outside and meet friends.
But you know him.
Even when he comes visit somebars, you, you saw him.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
He comes there, stays maybe one hour, not till one
hour sometimes, yeah, just alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
He doesn't even drink alcohol.
He drinks his usual drink andsays hello to everyone and then
he goes.
He lives.
So some people it's okay forthem, but also he lives here for
a long time.
Right yeah, he lives here for along time.
Right yeah, he lives here for along time.
So it's not a vacation for him.
So it's also part of this andit sucks sometimes.
(21:53):
This is what I want to say.
Sometimes it sucks to feelalone and to feel like you are
missing the real connectionswith people.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, is this, in my opinion, the way is?
I come to Pattaya with myfriend and we okay, easy to call
it we end the friend because ofmoney.
Okay, okay, so the money.
What does it matter about sharemoney or rent room, share room?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
together.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Like roommate share room and we have to pay room for
50-50.
Of course, but um, dependencyis like in my mind money doesn't
make trouble with my friend.
For me, money is not going tomake trouble with my friend
(22:52):
trouble with money Okay.
But it depends on if a friendof mine thought about money.
Now it has trouble with moneywith me.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
can you give me an example?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
you don't have to say names, it's like, um, we share
room each other together but endof month has a parent, but my
friend doesn't have money to payfor it like I have, but it's
not, you know, like not untilhalf with the price.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So so you have to cover the rest.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, like that, it's like a okay.
So normally like I'm going tobe like asked first, like did
you have, maybe have some?
You know like you can give melater if I have?
You know like, yeah, yeah, wecannot have any like until
parent and month.
Yeah so what?
(23:51):
I had about three, three people, my roommate, yeah, three
roommate I have everyone willhave to pay the same amount
every month but I'm always havelike same same experience.
like friend doesn't have moneyto pay for it and they ask my
(24:15):
money to pay for them and theysay, like okay, middle of month
I give you back.
Blah, blah, blah.
And like it's like the time,the time is a limit.
Like it's a limit about likeokay, this time her can't give
(24:38):
me money back and I had to, Ihad to pay again, yeah, so I
feel like so you spent double,double and and you work.
Is how, yeah, yeah of course,but this is like I doesn't think
that it's gonna be, that'sgonna make like me and't think
that it's going to make me and afriend finish to be friends,
(24:59):
but about a half the thing abouthow I travel with him, about
money, it could be better to endOkay.
For me it's like like now I'mstay alone for couple years and
say I have friend, no friend I'm.
(25:23):
I'm gonna say this is you time,use time for a couple years.
Probably gonna be third and nowI'm learning a lot about.
Patia connection in people inthe Patia.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I thought like, yeah, sometime you're staying that in
a in a nightlife, you know likePatia is a nightlife, so
especially if you're walking inthe bars, yeah, or even
freelancers, I think most of thework at night time so you
doesn't have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
If you're going out at night, you're gonna know have
friend, but you have to worryabout if you're going out
daytime, you're gonna going tohave fun.
Yeah, much In my mind.
That's why I'm changed to usein the that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I never thought about it so, but I think you're right
.
So basically, at nighttimeyou're never lonely, right?
No For a time but daytime.
Everyone is sleeping and if youare a daytime person, you don't
have anyone.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, so you see, now you know the reason why I'm
changing.
I leave the bar.
I leave the nightlife, I cansay Because we started to have
parkette together and it's ayeah, I usually do, we, we we
(27:02):
record it on a daytime yeah yeah, like before evening yeah so
it's like I'm feeling happy toto stay in a daytime and, yeah,
I have friend in a daytime.
I got like, oh, it doesn't.
Doesn't think like if I'mchange gonna be great, like now
(27:22):
I'm, I'm a person daytime andthen I have daytime for all day
time I can do like it then firstis.
I have, or yeah, park parkettewith you, and she's like it's
easy.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Not only that.
Sometimes you just send me amessage hey, I'm hungry, let's
go eat something.
Yeah, we go eat also.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Go have lunch together and I feel like it is.
It is make me feel like I'mspend time and that is good to
spend more than spin it, butwaste time.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
You know what I mean yes, but it's not really waste
time, because at nighttimeyou're actually making money
that in like before, yeah,before.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That is, it doesn't doesn't mean I'm gonna make make
money every night.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, for now it's just like Patea is a low season,
yeah, and you can see likeeverybody's quiet.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Almost, almost.
Listen, the bar you used towork is never quiet.
Almost never quiet, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
But I just asked a lady friend, I go have a, a you
know like grill pork grill withthem and I asked him about how
he's going in a bar and he saidlike okay, for now it's just
like it's the same way, you see,for the last time, because the
last time I just been in the bar, yeah, I mean, friend, and go
at a party party and yeah, Ifeel like, and in her pay bar
(28:55):
herself to get me off, gives herno like, how quiet is it?
and yeah much better to paymoney and stay home.
Yeah after the podcast, youneed to tell me who are you
talking about not now, and youknow, I feel like, um, I don't
know her pay or who paid for herand whatever it doesn't matter,
(29:16):
but she chose to pay her barfine in order not to be today in
the bar, because she feels likeshe's wasting time.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, yeah, I think she prefers to maybe go out with
friends, or maybe even juststay in the room and relax.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, that way it's similar, like me had before.
Yeah, I understand, because youcannot wake up all night every
night I gotta say it's like thatBecause we are human, for
natural human, we sleep at nightand wake up at day, yeah, yeah,
(29:57):
so if you wake up all night,every night, so body is gonna be
like waste, yeah, and you knowit could be like tired.
And you sleep on day, it's likeyou lose like vitamin D from
the Sun yeah, like that and it'sgonna.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And also, as far as I know, the human body sleeps
better at nighttime.
It's not about that.
It's nighttime.
There is no light, so it's moreeasy to sleep because in each
room you can make it dark.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
But our body is used to sleep at nighttime right our
body you to use you sleep atnighttime and maybe it's gonna
be like that problem also makeyou're like it's.
It doesn't about connection,but it's about like you used to
change to back room early and goto sleep early.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Not only that.
Also, I'll give you an examplefrom today.
Before you came here, evenbefore I told you to come right,
I was hungry.
I went to some random Thairestaurant here.
I was there alone.
I just ate my food alone.
No problem Enjoy myself.
(31:17):
I watch some movie withearphones.
You know, eat my food.
I choose very good food to eatSomething that I like.
So again, I eat, sometimes kungsod, sometimes with fresh
shrimp, raw shrimp.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
My favorite one.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I like it.
I like it too much, but I ateit spicy, not like you.
I'm a real Thai.
No, not like less spicy.
No, no, no, I told them it'sSun style.
For me like so they put a lotof fermented fish and a lot of
chili and it was great, good,and I ate pat khao pao gai,
which which means, let's sayit's a chicken fried with Thai
(31:58):
basil and then you get rice andsome eggs sometimes, if you want
.
I just had dinner alone and itwas very nice, I enjoyed it, and
sometimes it's good to be alone, I agree, but I don't.
I, I I know I'm repeatingmyself, but I feeling down and I
(32:19):
try to to make thisconversation with you to order
to understand how can I feelbetter, like, okay.
So your first recommendationwas change your routine.
You don't have to be out allnight.
You can do go out some in theday or just wake up in the day,
stay in the room, relax, enjoyyour time.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
This is the first recommendation.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
What is your?
Second recommendation For meit's like you have to, not like
have to, but if you figure itout in your mind, like if you
figure it out, oh, I need to dothis activity.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
What kind of activity it's like.
So for you it's dancing right.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Not only dancing, sometimes like singing or
drawing or maybe like play agame Like you play outside.
Yeah yeah.
Or watching a seriesi movie.
It's like, maybe exercise, yeah, maybe.
Well, I'm a fat fuck.
So I don't exercise much, butokay maybe like go to go to
(33:25):
cinema yeah yeah, it's like,it's like you, you can, if you
figure it out in a day like, oh,just activity is interested to
do, just do it.
No pleasure, it doesn't matterwhat other people say, just do
it.
If you're happy to do that anddoesn't make problems to others,
just do it.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, of course I try to never step on anyone's toes.
My style is not enjoying byhelping other people, I see.
So yeah, so you.
Your second recommendation isjust do something right.
Don't.
Don't stay and do nothing, justwatch your phone, blah, blah,
(34:08):
blah, blah and what's your phone?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
what's your phone is like you do something, yeah, but
if you do that all the time,yeah if you do that all the time
, the problem's your phone.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
What's your phone?
It's like you do something,yeah, but if you do that all the
time, yeah if you do that allthe time, the problem is your
eye.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, it's gonna make the problem to your eye.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Also it makes your brain rot, I think.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I can't say I had before.
Now I just have hair back.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
No, no, not hair Brain.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Brain rot.
Sorry, sorry, brain, just havehair back.
No, no, not hair brain brain,sorry, sorry brain.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Brain rot mean brain rot when you're for.
I will give you an example.
Let's say someone that's it allday on tiktok yeah, and you
just do like the same screaming,it's just changing the videos
and watch some bullshit all thetime bullshit and then you feel
like, yeah, your brain isgetting stupid from that it's
like.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
It's like um, you are you.
You don't know what you did,but you did that for a few
minutes.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, but you're not even aware of that.
Yeah, you're not even aware ofthat.
So better, do something a bitmore.
I would not say meaningful, butsomething that you find more
interesting.
So, for example, the other daynow I know my listeners maybe
will be a bit surprised withthat, but I never watched the
movie Taxi Driver.
(35:18):
Have you heard about it?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Taxi Driver.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
So it's an old movie, I think it's from the 70s or
the 80s.
It's an American movie byMartin Scorsese.
I think it's his second movie.
It's a movie about it's reallyinteresting actually movie it's
a movie about it's reallyinteresting actually.
A guy that came back from wethink he said that he came back
from the war in Vietnam Go backto America and he go to work as
(35:46):
a taxi driver in New York and atthat time New York is a very
dangerous and bad place, yeah,and when he see what's going.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
New York is a very dangerous and bad place.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, it's just that.
And when he sees what's goingon in the city he's becoming
more and more crazy, a littlebit crazy, and then he starts
thinking to get guns.
So he not get one gun, he getfour guns.
And then he meets some girlright, and he dates with her
first.
But he don't know how to benormal people.
He don't know how to be normalpeople, he don't know how to act
normal.
(36:16):
So, for example, first date hetake her to walk around, eat
something nice, and then he takeher to watch porn movie
together and she shocked, shejust say what the fuck are you
doing, right?
He say I sorry, I think thisnormal.
No, you cannot do that.
And she not speak with him againand then he get angry and then
he think he want to kill someone.
(36:37):
Oh, and this movie is, is he?
I will not tell you the wholeplot, right, but it's very
interesting movie.
I didn't like the ending, butthis is another debate, because
if you will watch the moviesomeday, we can debate about it.
Yeah, yeah, I never watched it.
Right, and it's one of the mostfamous movies in the world, yeah
, so I just was laying in bedyesterday, yeah, and watched
(37:01):
that movie.
I said this is a good time todo something I never did and I
enjoyed it why not?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
yeah, yeah, just do that.
This is, this is, this is a way, it's the way, is much more
better you just focus about,like, what people are gonna not
not about what people are gonnathinking, but it's like people,
yeah, but for me it's just likewhat I gotta do.
I feel like I'm bored, I'm likefucked up in a day.
(37:28):
It's like doesn't have anythingin your mind, it's just, it's
easy thinking.
It's about like it's all on theon the phone yeah, I was sitting
and then you feel like you'rewatching videos like, oh it's
interesting to do, just do that.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Or like um oh, so you say like search for activities
Search for activities.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
For me it's like I can say I do like design fashion
.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Okay, before….
Can I ask you, do you do it ona computer or you do it on paper
?
On paper.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Okay, you give me a five of them.
Make that with.
I guess you I remember aboutyou tell me to do that, make
that, make money with that.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, drawing yeah, I spoke with you about the
website that called five.
I will not elaborate on itbecause it's you are not doing
commercial for them yeah butyeah, I told you on fiverr there
are people that will pay youmoney to do so yeah, there's.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
That is just like when I'm I'm here that first
time I'm interested to dobecause you know, like you get
something from what you reallylike to do.
Yeah, you enjoy yourself Fromwhat you really like to do.
Yeah, you enjoy yourself right.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
And you actually can make money out of it.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Right, but it's just like when you feel you like to
do it doesn't mean you like todo every day.
You know what I mean.
But if you change your mindlike that is what you like to do
when you have free time, Changeto like you have to do that
every day.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
It's like that it's becoming.
It's becoming more yeah, I waswatching someone on youtube and,
as we spoke before, sometimes Ilike gaming, right, and there
is one game I follow I will notsay which one because it's not
important and I was watchingsomeone that is a professional
gamer in that game.
He made a lot of money out ofthis Two years ago.
(39:37):
His team made, I think, $2million in the World
Championship and it's divided byfour people, so a lot of money,
right, but it's a work for him.
Even though he enjoyed that, hehas to sit every day and play
that game for 10 hours or evenmore, and they had to.
you know, like learning aboutyou know how to play, how to get
(40:00):
wins?
Yeah, of course, but this isit's not only about how you play
.
It's about exactly what youknow about the map and where you
need to be, and everything thelocations and strategies.
I'd say whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
It's going to be like changing from games the game
just for playing, have fun andchanging to be like really.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
A professional yeah, professional, and that is like a
change feeling.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
You know there used to be a game, a professional
yeah, professional, and that islike Shang feeling.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
You know, there used to be a game I don't know if you
know that it's still playabletoday.
There is still competition.
It's called StarCraft.
Starcraft, it's an old strategygame, okay, and there used to
be competition around the worldand then, for some reason, korea
south korea became the numberone country in it, and no one
(40:50):
knew why.
And then some people moved tokorea to understand what, what
is going on, why they are sogood.
Yeah, because they are training12 hours every day yeah 12
hours non-stop.
it's like a walk.
They get yeah Right, Because ifthey win the world championship
they get a lot of money back,so people invest money in them.
(41:12):
Yeah, and it's like a boot camp, mm-hmm, 12 hours every day,
seven hours, seven days a week.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah Right, it's just like.
It's like what I know is, youknow, like as we, adult, adult,
you know like as we add all Idid.
Artists you can feel likeartists, idol in people I don't
okay can call them they arecapable artists yes, they have
the training to the maximum andthey can.
(41:40):
They built to be artists or, Idon't remember, like a girl
group yeah.
I grew up.
Whatever maximum is like afootball.
Who I know?
Her have to train the traineeten years, ten years and her the
artists of the group.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah, you have to, of course, everything that you
want to be professional at,especially if it's like an
occupation, that there is a lotof occupation, competition in it
, for example, idling, as yousaid, artists or gamers or
whatever you have to invest alot of time inside into it,
(42:22):
right?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
so not that.
Back to about um in the day.
Yeah, I'm here about make moneywith drawing, yeah, and I'm
interested, but you know it's afeeling.
It doesn't make me feelinghappy or fun to do it for money
(42:43):
to do it in the free time.
Okay, because how's he gonnamake money.
It's like it's had to be likelooking so well and then like no
no, it's have to be lookingwell in your eyes yeah, but it's
changed.
It's well in my eyes, like Ihad to better better.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
You know what I mean, oh and so you, you will not
feel satisfied because you'reyou know you're getting money
out of it so you feel, oh, Ihave to do it even better than
normal, okay.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
So then it's like um, you just did that and a way
thing that is to make you happyto do you know like whatever you
do, activities and doesn't makeyou feel bored to do.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
No, no.
So you think like you will muchmore enjoy doing it for your
free time whenever you feel like.
Yeah, yeah, and not as yourwork, mm-mm, okay.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
It's like if you're just going out at night, you're
in the daytime.
Maybe you don't play games,maybe you're not watching movies
, but maybe you're going to lookat the cinema in the day.
What the movie is?
Camera.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Or you just walk, know, like walk around beach
road.
I know it's just, it's just inthe nighttime, everyone walk in
the beach road.
Yeah, but, and many peoplestand in the beach road, you
know what I'm talking about yeah, I do, but in the daytime it's
different.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
So just maybe change your style.
Walk before in the nighttime tothe daytime.
You're going to see new things.
Did you know about the balloonthat shows up on the beach?
Speaker 1 (44:41):
No.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I don't know when, but it's about a month, two
months ago.
At the daytime they haveballoons.
They have a fish, a wall or ananimal balloon.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
It's showing on the beach Pattaya Beach.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
And that is the only I have on daytime.
Okay, but that time daytime butthat time I'm missing because
I'm working you are stillworking, so you just saw it on
the social media.
Yeah, and it's like I'm missingthat thing I really like.
Okay, I like art and I saw thatas like a balloon on the.
(45:25):
It's just on the sky and likemany, many, it's like balloons
just going up.
But it's like that is like aballoon on the sky and like many
, many it's like balloons justgoing up.
But it's like, is it called?
Like I don't know what it'scalled, but it's just make it
look like animal or somethinglike that, and then it's just
(45:46):
beautiful.
If I can see from my eyes, yeah, you know and experience it
yourself.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, not just looking at your phone and see
yeah, it's, it is about likeyour you.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
You do experience from your eye.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, in like time I agree, and but you know I'm a
kind of person that first of all, I don't much care of
sightseeing.
So, for example, I will not goto watch the big buddha or some
mountain, or this is not mystyle not myself, but even if I
(46:23):
do do watch something beautiful.
I'm not the kind of person Itake pictures, because I fucking
hate it.
Now you go everywhere, evenconcerts or everywhere that you
go that people see somethinginteresting.
The automatic reaction is takephone and take picture or take
video.
Why, why don't I just enjoythis moment?
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah right, Exactly.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
I don't understand that.
You see, you know I saw a videothe other day that they
compared a rave party from Ibiza20 years ago or 25 years ago
and now, so 25 years ago.
There is the artist thatplaying the music and everyone
is just dancing.
(47:06):
It is coming for that artistthat's playing the music and
everyone is just dancing.
It is coming for that and nowthey showed the video from one
month ago.
No one is dancing, everyone isjust holding the phone and take
video of the artist.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, I understand.
People are not enjoying itanymore, but they just focus on
the memories, but it's notreally memories.
This is.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
This is like I want to ask you.
If you've been to a concert andyou took a video, when will you
just be at home and watch thatvideo?
No, yeah, exactly never.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
That's.
That's what I I gotta say I'm aperson also like, also like.
For me sometimes it is to dophotos, but not the photo of
stuff like temple or somethinglike that, and probably do like
a sky or like a natural thing.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, but you will take that photo and that's it.
You put the phone back in yourpocket and enjoy yourself, right
?
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, but some people like recording.
Yeah, they stuck with the phoneback in your pocket and enjoy
yourself, right, yeah, but somepeople like recording yeah, they
stuck with the phone and a lotof people from the back they're
gonna enjoy.
I.
I gotta say that that is this.
That is as I have when I'myoung.
I'm going like concert aroundnear my hometown and I have
everyone to like record and thenfeel like the way maybe this
(48:29):
thing, this thing also, it'smade me feel like there's
someone to go up because Icannot see that like people
gonna, everyone will be likethat yeah, the way, like, like,
like this also that's why thisis the problem with the modern
life, like everyone is, is so.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
First of all, there is the fear of missing out.
You know that.
So people think they have to beeverywhere all the time, like
something happens, I have to bethere.
Yeah, and second of all, theynot care about experiencing it.
They care about telling peoplethey experience it.
For example, this is make mecrazy, right?
(49:09):
So let's say we are going to aconcert right.
A DJ, not a concert, and you arethe person that's taking the
video.
The only reason you take thevideo is not for you, it's to
show other people.
You'll be there, yeah, right,right.
Hey look, yesterday I was inthe concert and you show all
your friends and you post onsocial media, but you're not
(49:31):
really be in the concert.
You were so focused on takingthat stupid videos.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, you gotta show up to order yeah, you not really
enjoy it it's just, it's gonnashow off, it's called show off
yeah, but it's fucked up.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
yeah, it's fucked up that people don't care about
showing other show, as you saidto other people.
Oh, I've done that.
I've been here.
I did that Instead of justactually be there.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
It's like you have to realize you're not just the
only one there.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Like yeah, If you will look through my phone, the
pictures in my phone or thevideos in my phone.
First of all there are so fewpictures in there, most of the
pictures are of people that askme to take pictures of them Me
also and I'm never sitting andtaking selfies and stuff like
that For me sometimes.
It's okay, you're beautiful,I'm ugly.
(50:22):
So I don't care about taking myown selfies Right, but you will
never see picture of sightseeing.
For example, I did.
I needed to go to cambodia afew few days ago and come back
and everyone in the bus that wedrove over every time they
passed an interesting mountainor there was a very beautiful
(50:46):
scene there that there is amountain, that the top of it was
outside but the middle was in acloud, I understand I was
looking at it and thinking, wow,it's beautiful.
No one else did that.
Everyone else just took a videoof that fucking moment with
their phones blocking the windowyou know they're not even
looking just to show.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
And just sorry, I'm just like that's why I told you
know they're not even looking,just to show Sorry, I'm just
like that's why I told you like,yeah, and the way is, I'm
missing good things happening inthe daytime a lot.
Then I feel like, yeah, itcould be better if I can spend
daytime.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Can I ask you a question?
Do you enjoy the daytimeactivities more than the
nighttime activities?
When you walked in the bar Likeyou are more happy now.
You feel you are doing morestuff that is enjoyable to you.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, I'm probably going to say, you know, like you
said, no one likes to work inlike you say no one like to work
in a bar no one like to work ina bar and someone like, but
just for food time, but doesn'twant for all life.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, no one wants to work at abar for all life.
And for me now I'm feelingbetter because like, okay, I
(52:11):
have time for you know, likespend time with myself and treat
myself better and sleep atnight and have more time to
sleep.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
And drink less.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
And drink less Much less.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
I think you're not drinking now, right?
No, that's good you know, likeis this?
Speaker 2 (52:31):
like I'm feeling, I'm feeling.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
Healthier.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
It's like at first I'm feeling curious before I
come to Patina.
Oh okay, is it like you work ina bar?
You're drinking every dayalcohol, you're so much every
night and most of it is freeright, because the customer pay
for you yeah, and it's likeyou're gonna be like alcoholist.
Of course you gotta be likethat for over a year, over
(53:00):
second years, but it doesn't, Idoesn't feel like I am an
alcoholist.
It it's like I'm finishedworking at the bar and after
that, okay, I have drinks tospill but not like every night.
Last night I was going to aparty that night I have, but
(53:23):
after that no more, and Idoesn't feel like I need to
drink.
I need to drink, I need todrink.
So for me it's like I'm happyto find out, like okay.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
I'm okay, I'm not alcoholic.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, I'm okay, I'm not alcoholic.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah, but you know, alcoholism is not only Almost,
it's never created by drinking.
Drinking Wait, let me explainit's created by a person that
wake up before you even have todrink.
He drink, let's say, a bar girlbar girl that wake up.
(54:03):
The first thing she does shedrink beer.
Then she go to walk.
She drink more, she finish walkshe drinks beer, then she goes
to work.
She drinks more.
She finishes work, she stillgoes drinking.
Yeah, and you know some peoplelike that, that we know together
that like drinking too much.
Yeah, this is alcoholism.
But drinking because you haveto is different than drinking
because you want to.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
You want to?
Yeah, the way is, I don't wantto drink, but I did that because
I want to.
The way is I don't want todrink, but I did that because I
had to do.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Yeah, but I'm sure sometimes you put a lot of coke
and a little bit of Samsung.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah it's like.
For me, healthy is veryimportant.
Say again sorry, I said likehealthy.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Oh, being healthy okay.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Healthy is very important If you have money a
lot if you're a billionaire, butyou have ways healthy like your
health is not good.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah so even if you are the richest man in the world
, you cannot fix that right.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
For me, in my opinion , who is a rich people, who is
very, very have strong body,have strong health.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
And money.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Come on and money body, have strong and money come
on.
And money is this.
Is it like you, how you canhave millionaire but you have to
use in Monday because next dayyou what do you mean?
I mean like if it's not a filenext day you gonna be like not
in you, you gotta be there, youcan date dead but you have one
(55:28):
million.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Oh, so you cannot use the money when you die, of
course.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, so the way it is now, I'm focused on how I can
live for long.
That's why I'm quite working atnight time.
Or you can say like quite Quit,quit, it's called quit Quit
working the night time.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Or you can say like quite quit, quit, it's called
quit, quit walking the nighttime quit of the night time and
quit about drink alcohol yeah so, and you're not a smoker, so
this is good, you're not acigarette smoker, not, not, not.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
And much plus more about like, much plus more about
like.
Before I'm working at the bar Igotta do like a little um rum,
thai rum, so yeah, and big cola.
This time I'm stay.
You know, like in the daytimeI'm go practice dancing away
with myself.
It's a bottle of water and thatthing is also an exercise, it's
(56:26):
an exercise also and it's likefor me it's I'm I'm used to
daytime, I'm sharing um, I'mquit the bar and I feel like,
wow, I can drink water.
You know like I can drink watera lot, yeah, but I feel like
strong.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
You know like I get yeah because you first of all
your body get less sugar,because alcohol is also sugar
and sugar is not very good forus.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
We need sugar sometime, but not as much as,
let's say, if you had 10 drinkseach day, that's a lot of sugar.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah, right, and cola also I can take.
Yeah but, yeah, but yeah, Ihave you know like I like to if
I'm drinking, I like to mix withcola.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
Yeah, but I've stopped drinking, so cola is not
going to be like in my yeah,you just drink water and maybe
sometimes I don't know if youlike juice, maybe orange juice
or pineapple juice.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Yeah, but it's good.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
No, that's what I'm saying, that now you're drinking
.
I think you drink more juiceand more water and healthy stuff
, maybe some shake, some goodshakes.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
Probably I like protein milk.
What is protein milk?
Is it milk?
Is it more like protein?
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Okay, so it's milk that is rich with protein.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Yeah, it's rich with protein.
Okay, so, because I'mpracticing dancing and I had to
use.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
They sell that on 7-Eleven.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yeah, right, okay, so I can say I prefer to drink
milk.
Yeah, it just helps body haveprotein more.
Because I'm kind of let's eatabout me.
You can say you can see.
No, um, I tell you before, onesalad, one.
(58:17):
This salad is one meal.
Yeah, one meal for me.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
So yeah, sometimes I'm just have like salad yeah,
but a few days ago we went toGuillaume restaurant and you did
not eat salad you eat one ofyour best steaks in your life
over there the bull, Becausethis is the first.
Second A second.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, Okay for that time.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
This is when are we going.
The bull, the bull, yeah, yeah,yeah.
I gotta say like I have likevery, very nice, very, very nice
Steak Steak yeah, and I'm gonnasay I'm not a fan of beef, but
this is the first time I triedbeef and that is just a very,
(59:06):
very nice.
Speaker 1 (59:07):
Yeah.
It's a shame I might, aboutbeef, you know first of all, not
everyone serving such a goodquality of beef here you cannot.
And second of all, yes, it'svery expensive.
Speaker 2 (59:20):
You know that if you have a good quality beef, stay
there.
You gonna run a bit, no, ofcourse, of course, of course so
yeah, to answer into it andthank you so much for that time
ah and so, but normally you noteat so much beef, no, not so
(59:42):
much meat, you prefer vegetablesum prefer chicken chicken,
chicken vegetables yeah, andfruits, sorry, fruit Vegetables.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
Prefer chicken, chicken, chicken, vegetables.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
Vegetables, yeah, and fruits, sorry Fruit.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
Do you eat fruits?
Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah, I'm a fan of pebble.
Okay, and yeah, mangosteen,mangosteen.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Of course mangosteen.
No, not mango Mangosteen.
Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Mangosteen I can say I'm a girl from Fruits City,
chantaburi.
I have a queen mangosteen andking durian.
Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
You know that.
I know that because the familyof my wife sometimes when it's
time to pick up the mangosteen,they move to Chantaburi to help
with the.
They work in the farms there,yeah right, to help with the
mangosteen.
They move to Chantaburi to helpwith the.
They work in the farms there tohelp with the mangosteen farms.
I'm working also withmangosteen before by the way,
people that don't know, it's oneof the most delicious foods in
(01:00:39):
the world.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Chantaburi no, no, the mangosteen, I mean one of
the best foods in the world andit's not very common out of
Thailand, for example.
Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
In my country no one even heard about it.
Oh really, in America youcannot find it.
It's only in this area of Asiathat they have it.
It's very special for this area.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
I gotta say, like everyone, if you move, if you
travel in Thailand, flymankoteen you can find it
everywhere, well, in.
Thailand fly mankoteen.
You can find it everywhere.
Yeah, and taste it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
But you know, I never tried durian before.
Huh, I never ate durian before.
Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
I never tried durian before.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Durian.
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Never.
I tell you why.
One time I buy it but then I gowith my wife to eat it.
We cut it and it was a bad one.
It wasn't good, so cut it.
And it was a bad one it wasn'tgood, so she put it in garbage.
And since then I never trieddurian huh.
I never eat, never try.
Why?
Why not have chance?
No one, I don't know how to eatthis.
Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
I need someone to teach me, okay so you just take
a, uh, you, you take, you cut it, yeah, and you just eat it.
It's just like it's it's gonnasay durian, you, when you, when
you eat that after that youcannot drink any alcohol.
It's just like it's just havesugar.
(01:01:59):
I mean it's very sweet okaydurian, and if you do alcohol
it's like a much make too muchsugar, your heart will be your
heart, yeah, your heart.
Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
so it's like much Too much sugar.
Your heart will beat yeah, yourheart.
Oh, so it's like an energydrink.
Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
It's not in a good way.
Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Yeah, in a bad way, like energy drink.
You will feel your heartpumping, yeah and that is going
to be like you know Okay.
Maybe we and you can eat duriansometime.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
My homie just started to have durian sometime, yeah,
of course okay, my, my home.
We just just started to havedurian, okay this year.
So I hope next year gonna belike durian in my farm.
It's gonna be like big, huge.
Okay, you have your own durianfarm oh sorry, I never tell this
to other people.
I have durian farm and longanfarm longan, what is?
Longan, it's a lamia, it's justlike a I know, yeah, yeah, yeah
(01:02:51):
yeah and other fruit.
Yeah, chili, chili farm stillhave okay, in my home, but I'm
not taking care of that this isall about my family.
Yeah, okay, good so yeah, aboutyou.
You think, now you get betteryeah, because of you.
Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Thank you, you're welcome we just did a high five,
but not only because of you,but sometimes when you just talk
about things, it automaticallymakes you feel a little bit
better.
It's our friend.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yeah, and you feel a little better.
Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
It's our friend, yeah , yeah.
Yeah, you see a differentperspective.
And also you have to remindyourself that everyone feels
like shit sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
I have before Everyone.
Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
And it's normal to sometimes feel down and
sometimes feel better.
And once again, yeah, sometimesfeel down and sometimes feel
better.
And Once again, yeah, sometimesfeel better.
And I'm just happy that, yeah,I don't have many friends here,
but I have good friends here,some of them.
Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
And I want to thank you.
Thank you, mike, thank you forcoming and doing this Bonus
episode with me, and I know Someof our listeners will like it
and some will say we are justblabbering.
But this is what friends dothey sit and talk.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Yeah, it's similar like a granny talking to each
other, looking at people walkingaround.
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Yeah, but we are not.
Come on In a way like that yeah, we are not gossip Come on In a
way like that yeah, we are notgossiping about other people.
Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Not gossip, we're just talking.
Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
So thank you, Pim.
Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Thank you, Mike.
Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
And thank you everyone for listening.
I hope you like this concept ofbonus episodes.
Yeah, and again, we willappreciate any like and any
subscribe that you will do forus.
It's really helpful, and thanksalso for our supporters.
Each dollar that we get of youis really important in order to
(01:04:58):
make our podcast better and evento the people that don't donate
, don't like.
Thank you for listening to us.
Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For me it's like, for me it's anew thing to do, and now I do
like a few.
Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Few episodes already.
Few episodes already.
Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I gotta say like I'm learning a lot of this podcast
yeah, and today you learned howto record also.
Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Yeah, I learned it.
And I learned it again.
Yeah, soon I'll show you how toedit.
Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
So thank you to the listener, thank you and, by the
way, everyone that wants to getin touch with us.
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
You can email us to mytaiwifepod at gmailcom.
We are replying to each emailthat we are getting and also, as
I said before, there are newfeatures.
I think it's Spotify, that youcan send us private message
through there.
So we're just happy to hearfrom you.
(01:06:02):
Thank you, guys.
See you on Friday.
Bye.
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike and sadly I'm stilldoing this without my lovely,
lovely wife Sonali.
But you know who's here.
Hello, pim, hi, how are youdoing?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm doing good thanks , how about?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
you, well, so-so.
Normally I say always good, butI don't know, lately, I think,
for the past almost a week, I'mfeeling down.
Now.
I don't know if it's gotsomething to do with the
episodes that we recorded withour friend John, because it did
(00:39):
affect me.
It was a very emotional episode.
Yeah, yeah, I, I think so.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, it's a very emotional episode.
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Yeah, it's very emotional.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
But in my opinion, it's not only about that.
Like I'm thinking what are youdoing, pim?
Is this?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
going to move?
No, it's moving automatically.
Okay, cool.
It's okay, okay, cool, it'sokay is this is gonna say like
it's the first time I'm um learnhow to.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
To start, to yeah, now I, I let you to be in charge
on the recording and everything.
Yeah, yeah, but don't be, don'tworry about it everything is
automatically and you just needto focus on our conversation.
And you just need to focus onour conversation, okay, so, as I
said for the last, about sevenor ten days, I'm feeling a bit
(01:34):
down, and first of all I want totalk about something that maybe
you don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It's called Pattaya Burnout you heard about this
before Pattaya Burn.
You heard?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
about this before.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Pattaya burnout.
Yeah, is this?
Does this look like a war,something like that?
Burnout.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
No, no, Burnout means like something that was burned
Like fire.
So Pattaya burnout is somethingthat happened to many people
that come here, especially forwhen they stay here a long time.
So let's say you're going outand partying every day and
(02:15):
sometimes you're drinking andfucking and enjoying yourself
and everything.
Sometimes you reach a pointthat you ask yourself why.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Why yeah the question ?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
yeah, the question, the question, yeah, why?
And then when you ask why,there are many answers in your
mind that you don't want to hear.
So sometimes people just gettired of it and normally if you
read on forums or Reddit orstuff like that, people say the
best way to eliminate Pattayaburnout is to actually go out
(02:53):
from Pattaya for two or threedays, let's say go to Rayong or
go to some island or just evengo to another city.
It doesn't have to be somethinglike that, just to change the
environment.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So I was wondering first if I have Pattaya burnout.
I don't think so, you don'tthink so.
I don't think so because youknow me, I'm not drinking too
much.
Yeah, I know and I'm notpartying too much.
Normally I don't stay in many,many, many bars.
I have one or two bars that Ilike and I stay there.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Just meet friends like that.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, normally for meet friends and sit with nice
people and have goodconversations.
But, to be honest, lately Ifelt a bit hurt from some people
that were close to me and Idon't know if it's something
(03:54):
that I did personally or justsometimes people get to a
certain point that they feelthat they don't want to be
around you anymore or stuff likethat, but I got this feeling
lately.
This is one thing.
(04:16):
The second thing is about youknow, when you spend a lot of
time here, you spend a lot ofmoney.
Obviously I mean as a touristright in the so you have to pay
for the hotel, you have to payfor the drinks and the food and
the the transportation andeverything and you know if, if,
(04:38):
if I compare thailand, forexample, to my country, yeah, th
Thailand is cheaper.
Yeah, but everything is addingup right.
Right, right so eventually,each month, you spend a certain
amount of money, which can besometimes a lot and sometimes
not that much, but you're still.
(04:58):
You're only spending.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, right, that's spending yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
And so this is part of it.
So it's the friend situation,the spending situation.
Yeah, and also, by the way,don't worry about the sound.
I will show you later how todelete the sound in the
recording, so you don't have toworry about it so yeah, I gotta
(05:24):
say this like it's called, likebonus, is it called?
Yeah, it will be a bonusepisode, episode yeah so I don't
know when we will upload it.
It might be in a week from now,yeah, but when we will upload it
, it will not be on friday, itwill be just on a random day,
right?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
it's like a, it's like um, it's, it's mike, um,
it's mike.
Uh, how is it like a?
What?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
when you get like a, create it like it's my thing to
do this one because I yeah,because um, you guess you say
it's a surprise to your listeneryeah, not only surprise, but a
little bit out of the routinebecause, normally we only upload
on friday, friday, friday oneepisode each week and I thought
(06:12):
like I really care about ourlisteners and I know some of
them are actually enjoying whatwe are talking about normally
and I thought why not doing somesometime in random?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
episode.
You know, it looks like areality, like look like real.
More than Every episode we do,everything is real.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's just an organic conversation, right
yeah yeah, right, so back toyour story.
It's not a story.
It's like I wanted to tell youthat I'm feeling a bit down.
Yeah, what are you feeling?
I try to process it and tounderstand the reason behind it.
So another reason that I'mthinking that mostly I go out at
(06:59):
night, right At night, I comeback, let's say, 5 in the
morning, 6 in the morning, and Iwake up again eight.
I normally I not see any light,right?
Yeah, so it might be also thisbecause you know it's very
important to to get exposed tothe sun sometimes, right, you
know, and stay in the night allthe time.
(07:21):
It's very heavy on the body, isit?
Yeah, and I do try.
By the way, I thought you wouldsay that I do try to eat better
so I not eat as much as junkfood as normally.
Yeah, so I do try to eat morevegetables and fruit and yeah
good, good stuff, good stuff,yeah, and, as I said before, I'm
(07:43):
not drinking too much, so Idon't think it's the food.
So what do you think can cause?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
because I know it's not just something that I feel
everyone feel down sometimeswhat caused you, for example,
like a can I say it's like um?
Example from my, from myexperience when I left the bar
(08:13):
yeah, yeah and then I'm changedfrom usually do night time.
I mean like uh for working atnight.
Yeah, stay in the night time anight routine right yeah, then
change like spend more with daytime and sleep at night, spend
(08:34):
more day time, and then it'sjust like it's much better, you
feel better, you feel better no,no, I ask you.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You feel better?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
yeah, I do, I no.
No, I ask you, you feel better.
Yeah, I do, I do.
Okay, yeah, it's just like whenyou're feeling like you do this
, like every day you do, but itdoesn't routine For you.
It doesn't routine.
No, it's not routine for you,but you do it every day because
(09:05):
you're's just a routine.
No, it's not routine for you,but you did every day because
you're feeling like had to do isthis, is this like that?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
it was your.
Oh, you asked me.
You mean, I feel like I have togoing out?
Go out every night and sit thesame three or four bars that I
go to.
Yeah, no, I don't feel like Ihave to do.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And I'm not feeling like I'm missing out when I'm
not there.
And then it is like you now.
You're not usually going out atnight now or sometime.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I feel I'm going less Less and also I not stay up so
late.
For example, yesterday I cameback to my room around two 2am,
which is much earlier than Inormally go yeah, and then
you're, you're asleep and youget up early today.
Today actually not, because Ihad to change rooms- yeah, yeah.
(10:06):
So today I waited in my roomand watched movie and Like spend
your time.
Yeah, until 8 in the morning and8 in the morning I checked out
of my old room and I came tothis room, to the new one, which
is, in my opinion, is a goodroom.
This is very nice.
Come on it.
This is very nice.
Ah, come on, it's not very nice.
(10:26):
We've been to Michel room.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Michel room is very nice, don't compare that is like
another prize, yeah, but yeah,in my opinion it's like is it
doesn't?
Doesn't feeling like you didthat and you're try to change to
do like did what?
Um, I mean like you not go, younot go late and you're like
(10:52):
late, go out night and thenyou're back room early, sleep
and get up early.
Is it like um, you're?
You say like um, you move room,yeah, and you're watching movie
and you know.
You say like you move room andyou're watching movie.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I spend more time with myself this is like.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
sometimes people just like do what other do I mean
like for people the most peopledo Like do what others do I mean
like for people, the mostpeople do.
And you like that, you followbut you don't know you follow
(11:34):
them.
Can you give me an example?
It's like when you see peoplemost people do this, like most
people do go out at night andyou're feeling like you're here
and people at night, yeah, butin this city, I find Okay, let
me start from the beginning.
This city is very interesting.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
You have many things to do in the night time, the day
time, the afternoon.
There is always something to doin this city.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Right.
It's a city without sleepWithout sleep, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Everyone can find any time of the day something to do
so, but but the night time isthe most interesting times, uh
yeah, yeah, yeah like I think,from 9 pm until4 am yeah, this
is the crazy time five, sixdepend.
There are some I will not nameit because we cannot say the
(12:23):
name but some clubs here openuntil one afternoon.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, so just because Pattaya never sleeps.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, so yeah, you're partially right.
So yeah, when I come to Pattaya, normally I like to enjoy the
nightlife more, right?
And also, thailand is very hot,and humid and daytime.
You just go out after threeminutes you're already sweating
yeah, you know you just showered, you smell ice, you feel good,
(12:54):
and then you go out and you'realready sticky.
Yeah, you know what I mean yeahso.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
So if you can choose it, you're gonna get sweat, or
you can go out night and feelinglike night.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, night is also hot sometimes sometimes,
sometimes, but yeah yeah, soit's more comfortable to go out
in the night.
And, yeah, if you are spendingmost of your time in the
shopping centers or restaurantsor everything is air-conditioned
, so there is no problem withthat, right, it's not?
Problem but when you're walkingdown the street or you want to
just you around or gosightseeing for example From the
(13:26):
people that don't like getsweat.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I can say I'm Thai people, but I'm feeling I cannot
stay in that hot place.
I mean like feeling hot yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You would prefer a place like Scandinavia, for
example?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I can.
If I can move, I gotta move tolike the place have snow every
day or like a very cold likecanada.
Oh, it's not great yeah, is itis it?
Is it the way I want?
But I'm in thailand.
You know what I mean.
Is it thailand?
So it's all like a can saythailand, always summer, yeah,
(14:10):
it's always hot and humid theproblem is not only the heat,
it's the humid.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So you're sweating all the time.
Yeah, but it's part of this.
So this is the reasons.
Normally, when I come tothailand, the first month or
whatever, I don't know dependson how long is my vacation.
So I stay mostly at thenighttime, right, but I do want
to change the routine and to seeif it will make me feel better.
(14:36):
But also, sometimes people getto to feel a bit lonely here.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Because, even though you are partying each night and
you are meeting new people andladies and ladyboys- and
whatever, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Men.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Men, yeah, it doesn't matter.
At the end of the day, there isnot too many real connections
here.
You know what I mean.
Oh, yeah, no, like I give anexample, me and you.
I know we have a realconnection, right.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
We are friends.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
We are sharing this podcast and we're going out.
We are going out, we hang outtogether, yeah we are going to
dinners as friends, right asfriends.
There is no like romanticinvolvement here.
It's just being friends and weenjoy that right.
But normally you don't findmany good connections here, Even
with other foreigners.
Sometimes the connections thatI see in the bars is only about
(15:34):
drinking or playing pooltogether, but there is nothing
behind it sometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Is this like a?
For me, the behind is like theymade money.
I mean it's like they mademoney.
I mean it's like no, no, I meanforeigners to foreigners.
Foreigners.
Foreigners, Ah, I canunderstand.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I'm talking about this.
So, for example, wait, I willtouch the point that you just
said, but before, before, I tryto explain.
Like you, you know me already,you know friends here, and some
of the connections you make hereare very superficial and there
is nothing behind it.
Some and some of them are deep,but there is always this
(16:10):
distance because, first of all,everyone coming for a different
background, different countryand like to do different stuff.
So I think, if I really, really, really need to count how many
people here I do consider as myfriends, real friends and not
just friends from the bar, maybethree.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Three.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Including you, maybe three.
Seriously, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
But because you said you spend night time like many
days, many nights like like.
You spend night time like likemany days, many night like, but
you have driven like with thegood connection.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Three people that I feel that my connection with
them is genuine is a realconnection between two people
that meet and have sharedinterest and we can talk about
and there is no pressure aboutwe have to meet or not meet.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Oh, whenever you feel like you can go meet each other
or go eat or go even sometimesgo party together.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Right, I will not say who, but one of our, my friend,
and it's a person that you knowalso, he know where, at which
bar, I sit normally right and healways just send me a text.
Okay, I will show up soon.
Are you there?
And he's coming there and wesit a little bit, we drink a
(17:34):
little bit, we have fun, andthen he goes to his, to his
business, you know.
I mean he go to do whatever youwant there is no pressure
behind it.
But you know what's that?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Is this.
What was I going to say?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
No, I'm going to say that it's a city that's supposed
to make you feel not alone, butsometimes you feel extremely
lonely in this city Because, forexample and I go back to what
you speak about so let's saythere is a random farang let's
call him Johnny, it doesn'tmatter the name, right, he comes
(18:16):
here and maybe he go out withladyboys or ladies or men, it
doesn't matter who every night,but he pays for that, Uh-huh.
And after he pays for that,that's it right, in order to
meet them again, what do youhave to do?
You have to pay again.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You have to pay again .
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Right, so it's not a real connection.
So yeah, it might be sexualconnection or not have to be
sexual it can only like, forexample, maybe he took her for a
date right, so he spent moneyfor dinner.
Maybe bought her some nice giftif he wanted or whatever, he's
still spending money.
But there is no connection oflike two people, just like we
(18:59):
are doing now.
Hey, for example, today I sentyou a message.
Hey, pim, I feel a bit down.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, yeah, sure, I'm coming soon.
Yeah, I'd be like that.
Yeah, it's like is this afriend?
Yeah, like, is this like a whatA friend for each other like
doesn't have any pleasure, likeyou have to pay money.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
you have to, yeah, but not only about the money,
about the, the understanding ofokay, this person uh need me now
, or yeah, or just, you know Igive you another example, okay.
For example if I will not sendyou message for one week, you
will fucking worry, I know youyeah you will come here.
(19:44):
Knock on the door, Mike, you'rehere, everything's okay, I
probably yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
say your message like how about my friend that I've
been missing?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
for a little while.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, like that yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
So this is a real connection and it's something
that many people that come here,especially if they've come here
alone, if they come here alone,without group of friends, they
will experience it right.
Yeah, and yeah, like I kind ofexperience it sometimes.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
You know, everyone experience it sometimes, but
here, when you are away fromyour own country, and your own
friends or your family orwhatnot, and you had to like
come in and see new things, newfriends.
You had to stay alone.
Anyone cannot stay alone at aconcert.
You must have friends.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
You know what?
I had a conversation withGuillaume the other day.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Guillaume is again the owner of the Boulogne store.
No, I'm telling to thelisteners, of course you know.
Yeah, I know the owner of thebull is the one.
No, I'm telling to thelisteners, of course you know.
Yeah and he.
I was speaking with him aboutthis in general and he said that
for him is not a problem.
He preferred to be alone.
Like if you put him in a roomalone for one month, he will be
so happy, he will be productive,he will do much more things
(21:02):
that he normally do, becausethis is his personality.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's like for a call.
It's like how do you say thatlike an introvert person?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
yeah, he is he can go outside and meet friends.
But you know him.
Even when he comes visit somebars, you, you saw him.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
He comes there, stays maybe one hour, not till one
hour sometimes, yeah, just alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
He doesn't even drink alcohol.
He drinks his usual drink andsays hello to everyone and then
he goes.
He lives.
So some people it's okay forthem, but also he lives here for
a long time.
Right yeah, he lives here for along time.
Right yeah, he lives here for along time.
So it's not a vacation for him.
So it's also part of this andit sucks sometimes.
(21:53):
This is what I want to say.
Sometimes it sucks to feelalone and to feel like you are
missing the real connectionswith people.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, is this, in my opinion, the way is?
I come to Pattaya with myfriend and we okay, easy to call
it we end the friend because ofmoney.
Okay, okay, so the money.
What does it matter about sharemoney or rent room, share room?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
together.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Like roommate share room and we have to pay room for
50-50.
Of course, but um, dependencyis like in my mind money doesn't
make trouble with my friend.
For me, money is not going tomake trouble with my friend
(22:52):
trouble with money Okay.
But it depends on if a friendof mine thought about money.
Now it has trouble with moneywith me.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
can you give me an example?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
you don't have to say names, it's like, um, we share
room each other together but endof month has a parent, but my
friend doesn't have money to payfor it like I have, but it's
not, you know, like not untilhalf with the price.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So so you have to cover the rest.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, like that, it's like a okay.
So normally like I'm going tobe like asked first, like did
you have, maybe have some?
You know like you can give melater if I have?
You know like, yeah, yeah, wecannot have any like until
parent and month.
Yeah so what?
(23:51):
I had about three, three people, my roommate, yeah, three
roommate I have everyone willhave to pay the same amount
every month but I'm always havelike same same experience.
like friend doesn't have moneyto pay for it and they ask my
(24:15):
money to pay for them and theysay, like okay, middle of month
I give you back.
Blah, blah, blah.
And like it's like the time,the time is a limit.
Like it's a limit about likeokay, this time her can't give
(24:38):
me money back and I had to, Ihad to pay again, yeah, so I
feel like so you spent double,double and and you work.
Is how, yeah, yeah of course,but this is like I doesn't think
that it's gonna be, that'sgonna make like me and't think
that it's going to make me and afriend finish to be friends,
(24:59):
but about a half the thing abouthow I travel with him, about
money, it could be better to endOkay.
For me it's like like now I'mstay alone for couple years and
say I have friend, no friend I'm.
(25:23):
I'm gonna say this is you time,use time for a couple years.
Probably gonna be third and nowI'm learning a lot about.
Patia connection in people inthe Patia.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I thought like, yeah, sometime you're staying that in
a in a nightlife, you know likePatia is a nightlife, so
especially if you're walking inthe bars, yeah, or even
freelancers, I think most of thework at night time so you
doesn't have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
If you're going out at night, you're gonna know have
friend, but you have to worryabout if you're going out
daytime, you're gonna going tohave fun.
Yeah, much In my mind.
That's why I'm changed to usein the that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I never thought about it so, but I think you're right
.
So basically, at nighttimeyou're never lonely, right?
No For a time but daytime.
Everyone is sleeping and if youare a daytime person, you don't
have anyone.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, so you see, now you know the reason why I'm
changing.
I leave the bar.
I leave the nightlife, I cansay Because we started to have
parkette together and it's ayeah, I usually do, we, we we
(27:02):
record it on a daytime yeah yeah, like before evening yeah so
it's like I'm feeling happy toto stay in a daytime and, yeah,
I have friend in a daytime.
I got like, oh, it doesn't.
Doesn't think like if I'mchange gonna be great, like now
(27:22):
I'm, I'm a person daytime andthen I have daytime for all day
time I can do like it then firstis.
I have, or yeah, park parkettewith you, and she's like it's
easy.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Not only that.
Sometimes you just send me amessage hey, I'm hungry, let's
go eat something.
Yeah, we go eat also.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Go have lunch together and I feel like it is.
It is make me feel like I'mspend time and that is good to
spend more than spin it, butwaste time.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
You know what I mean yes, but it's not really waste
time, because at nighttimeyou're actually making money
that in like before, yeah,before.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That is, it doesn't doesn't mean I'm gonna make make
money every night.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, for now it's just like Patea is a low season,
yeah, and you can see likeeverybody's quiet.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Almost, almost.
Listen, the bar you used towork is never quiet.
Almost never quiet, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
But I just asked a lady friend, I go have a, a you
know like grill pork grill withthem and I asked him about how
he's going in a bar and he saidlike okay, for now it's just
like it's the same way, you see,for the last time, because the
last time I just been in the bar, yeah, I mean, friend, and go
at a party party and yeah, Ifeel like, and in her pay bar
(28:55):
herself to get me off, gives herno like, how quiet is it?
and yeah much better to paymoney and stay home.
Yeah after the podcast, youneed to tell me who are you
talking about not now, and youknow, I feel like, um, I don't
know her pay or who paid for herand whatever it doesn't matter,
(29:16):
but she chose to pay her barfine in order not to be today in
the bar, because she feels likeshe's wasting time.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, yeah, I think she prefers to maybe go out with
friends, or maybe even juststay in the room and relax.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, that way it's similar, like me had before.
Yeah, I understand, because youcannot wake up all night every
night I gotta say it's like thatBecause we are human, for
natural human, we sleep at nightand wake up at day, yeah, yeah,
(29:57):
so if you wake up all night,every night, so body is gonna be
like waste, yeah, and you knowit could be like tired.
And you sleep on day, it's likeyou lose like vitamin D from
the Sun yeah, like that and it'sgonna.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And also, as far as I know, the human body sleeps
better at nighttime.
It's not about that.
It's nighttime.
There is no light, so it's moreeasy to sleep because in each
room you can make it dark.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
But our body is used to sleep at nighttime right our
body you to use you sleep atnighttime and maybe it's gonna
be like that problem also makeyou're like it's.
It doesn't about connection,but it's about like you used to
change to back room early and goto sleep early.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Not only that.
Also, I'll give you an examplefrom today.
Before you came here, evenbefore I told you to come right,
I was hungry.
I went to some random Thairestaurant here.
I was there alone.
I just ate my food alone.
No problem Enjoy myself.
(31:17):
I watch some movie withearphones.
You know, eat my food.
I choose very good food to eatSomething that I like.
So again, I eat, sometimes kungsod, sometimes with fresh
shrimp, raw shrimp.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
My favorite one.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I like it.
I like it too much, but I ateit spicy, not like you.
I'm a real Thai.
No, not like less spicy.
No, no, no, I told them it'sSun style.
For me like so they put a lotof fermented fish and a lot of
chili and it was great, good,and I ate pat khao pao gai,
which which means, let's sayit's a chicken fried with Thai
(31:58):
basil and then you get rice andsome eggs sometimes, if you want
.
I just had dinner alone and itwas very nice, I enjoyed it, and
sometimes it's good to be alone, I agree, but I don't.
I, I I know I'm repeatingmyself, but I feeling down and I
(32:19):
try to to make thisconversation with you to order
to understand how can I feelbetter, like, okay.
So your first recommendationwas change your routine.
You don't have to be out allnight.
You can do go out some in theday or just wake up in the day,
stay in the room, relax, enjoyyour time.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
This is the first recommendation.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
What is your?
Second recommendation For meit's like you have to, not like
have to, but if you figure itout in your mind, like if you
figure it out, oh, I need to dothis activity.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
What kind of activity it's like.
So for you it's dancing right.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Not only dancing, sometimes like singing or
drawing or maybe like play agame Like you play outside.
Yeah yeah.
Or watching a seriesi movie.
It's like, maybe exercise, yeah, maybe.
Well, I'm a fat fuck.
So I don't exercise much, butokay maybe like go to go to
(33:25):
cinema yeah yeah, it's like,it's like you, you can, if you
figure it out in a day like, oh,just activity is interested to
do, just do it.
No pleasure, it doesn't matterwhat other people say, just do
it.
If you're happy to do that anddoesn't make problems to others,
just do it.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, of course I try to never step on anyone's toes.
My style is not enjoying byhelping other people, I see.
So yeah, so you.
Your second recommendation isjust do something right.
Don't.
Don't stay and do nothing, justwatch your phone, blah, blah,
(34:08):
blah, blah and what's your phone?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
what's your phone is like you do something, yeah, but
if you do that all the time,yeah if you do that all the time
, the problem's your phone.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
What's your phone?
It's like you do something,yeah, but if you do that all the
time, yeah if you do that allthe time, the problem is your
eye.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, it's gonna make the problem to your eye.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Also it makes your brain rot, I think.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I can't say I had before.
Now I just have hair back.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
No, no, not hair Brain.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Brain rot.
Sorry, sorry, brain, just havehair back.
No, no, not hair brain brain,sorry, sorry brain.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Brain rot mean brain rot when you're for.
I will give you an example.
Let's say someone that's it allday on tiktok yeah, and you
just do like the same screaming,it's just changing the videos
and watch some bullshit all thetime bullshit and then you feel
like, yeah, your brain isgetting stupid from that it's
like.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
It's like um, you are you.
You don't know what you did,but you did that for a few
minutes.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, but you're not even aware of that.
Yeah, you're not even aware ofthat.
So better, do something a bitmore.
I would not say meaningful, butsomething that you find more
interesting.
So, for example, the other daynow I know my listeners maybe
will be a bit surprised withthat, but I never watched the
movie Taxi Driver.
(35:18):
Have you heard about it?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Taxi Driver.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
So it's an old movie, I think it's from the 70s or
the 80s.
It's an American movie byMartin Scorsese.
I think it's his second movie.
It's a movie about it's reallyinteresting actually movie it's
a movie about it's reallyinteresting actually.
A guy that came back from wethink he said that he came back
from the war in Vietnam Go backto America and he go to work as
(35:46):
a taxi driver in New York and atthat time New York is a very
dangerous and bad place, yeah,and when he see what's going.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
New York is a very dangerous and bad place.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, it's just that.
And when he sees what's goingon in the city he's becoming
more and more crazy, a littlebit crazy, and then he starts
thinking to get guns.
So he not get one gun, he getfour guns.
And then he meets some girlright, and he dates with her
first.
But he don't know how to benormal people.
He don't know how to be normalpeople, he don't know how to act
normal.
(36:16):
So, for example, first date hetake her to walk around, eat
something nice, and then he takeher to watch porn movie
together and she shocked, shejust say what the fuck are you
doing, right?
He say I sorry, I think thisnormal.
No, you cannot do that.
And she not speak with him againand then he get angry and then
he think he want to kill someone.
(36:37):
Oh, and this movie is, is he?
I will not tell you the wholeplot, right, but it's very
interesting movie.
I didn't like the ending, butthis is another debate, because
if you will watch the moviesomeday, we can debate about it.
Yeah, yeah, I never watched it.
Right, and it's one of the mostfamous movies in the world, yeah
, so I just was laying in bedyesterday, yeah, and watched
(37:01):
that movie.
I said this is a good time todo something I never did and I
enjoyed it why not?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
yeah, yeah, just do that.
This is, this is, this is a way, it's the way, is much more
better you just focus about,like, what people are gonna not
not about what people are gonnathinking, but it's like people,
yeah, but for me it's just likewhat I gotta do.
I feel like I'm bored, I'm likefucked up in a day.
(37:28):
It's like doesn't have anythingin your mind, it's just, it's
easy thinking.
It's about like it's all on theon the phone yeah, I was sitting
and then you feel like you'rewatching videos like, oh it's
interesting to do, just do that.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Or like um oh, so you say like search for activities
Search for activities.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
For me it's like I can say I do like design fashion
.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Okay, before….
Can I ask you, do you do it ona computer or you do it on paper
?
On paper.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Okay, you give me a five of them.
Make that with.
I guess you I remember aboutyou tell me to do that, make
that, make money with that.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, drawing yeah, I spoke with you about the
website that called five.
I will not elaborate on itbecause it's you are not doing
commercial for them yeah butyeah, I told you on fiverr there
are people that will pay youmoney to do so yeah, there's.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
That is just like when I'm I'm here that first
time I'm interested to dobecause you know, like you get
something from what you reallylike to do.
Yeah, you enjoy yourself Fromwhat you really like to do.
Yeah, you enjoy yourself right.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
And you actually can make money out of it.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Right, but it's just like when you feel you like to
do it doesn't mean you like todo every day.
You know what I mean.
But if you change your mindlike that is what you like to do
when you have free time, Changeto like you have to do that
every day.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
It's like that it's becoming.
It's becoming more yeah, I waswatching someone on youtube and,
as we spoke before, sometimes Ilike gaming, right, and there
is one game I follow I will notsay which one because it's not
important and I was watchingsomeone that is a professional
gamer in that game.
He made a lot of money out ofthis Two years ago.
(39:37):
His team made, I think, $2million in the World
Championship and it's divided byfour people, so a lot of money,
right, but it's a work for him.
Even though he enjoyed that, hehas to sit every day and play
that game for 10 hours or evenmore, and they had to.
you know, like learning aboutyou know how to play, how to get
(40:00):
wins?
Yeah, of course, but this isit's not only about how you play
.
It's about exactly what youknow about the map and where you
need to be, and everything thelocations and strategies.
I'd say whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
It's going to be like changing from games the game
just for playing, have fun andchanging to be like really.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
A professional yeah, professional, and that is like a
change feeling.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
You know there used to be a game, a professional
yeah, professional, and that islike Shang feeling.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
You know, there used to be a game I don't know if you
know that it's still playabletoday.
There is still competition.
It's called StarCraft.
Starcraft, it's an old strategygame, okay, and there used to
be competition around the worldand then, for some reason, korea
south korea became the numberone country in it, and no one
(40:50):
knew why.
And then some people moved tokorea to understand what, what
is going on, why they are sogood.
Yeah, because they are training12 hours every day yeah 12
hours non-stop.
it's like a walk.
They get yeah Right, Because ifthey win the world championship
they get a lot of money back,so people invest money in them.
(41:12):
Yeah, and it's like a boot camp, mm-hmm, 12 hours every day,
seven hours, seven days a week.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah Right, it's just like.
It's like what I know is, youknow, like as we, adult, adult,
you know like as we add all Idid.
Artists you can feel likeartists, idol in people I don't
okay can call them they arecapable artists yes, they have
the training to the maximum andthey can.
(41:40):
They built to be artists or, Idon't remember, like a girl
group yeah.
I grew up.
Whatever maximum is like afootball.
Who I know?
Her have to train the traineeten years, ten years and her the
artists of the group.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah, you have to, of course, everything that you
want to be professional at,especially if it's like an
occupation, that there is a lotof occupation, competition in it
, for example, idling, as yousaid, artists or gamers or
whatever you have to invest alot of time inside into it,
(42:22):
right?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
so not that.
Back to about um in the day.
Yeah, I'm here about make moneywith drawing, yeah, and I'm
interested, but you know it's afeeling.
It doesn't make me feelinghappy or fun to do it for money
(42:43):
to do it in the free time.
Okay, because how's he gonnamake money.
It's like it's had to be likelooking so well and then like no
no, it's have to be lookingwell in your eyes yeah, but it's
changed.
It's well in my eyes, like Ihad to better better.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
You know what I mean, oh and so you, you will not
feel satisfied because you'reyou know you're getting money
out of it so you feel, oh, Ihave to do it even better than
normal, okay.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
So then it's like um, you just did that and a way
thing that is to make you happyto do you know like whatever you
do, activities and doesn't makeyou feel bored to do.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
No, no.
So you think like you will muchmore enjoy doing it for your
free time whenever you feel like.
Yeah, yeah, and not as yourwork, mm-mm, okay.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
It's like if you're just going out at night, you're
in the daytime.
Maybe you don't play games,maybe you're not watching movies
, but maybe you're going to lookat the cinema in the day.
What the movie is?
Camera.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Or you just walk, know, like walk around beach
road.
I know it's just, it's just inthe nighttime, everyone walk in
the beach road.
Yeah, but, and many peoplestand in the beach road, you
know what I'm talking about yeah, I do, but in the daytime it's
different.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
So just maybe change your style.
Walk before in the nighttime tothe daytime.
You're going to see new things.
Did you know about the balloonthat shows up on the beach?
Speaker 1 (44:41):
No.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I don't know when, but it's about a month, two
months ago.
At the daytime they haveballoons.
They have a fish, a wall or ananimal balloon.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
It's showing on the beach Pattaya Beach.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
And that is the only I have on daytime.
Okay, but that time daytime butthat time I'm missing because
I'm working you are stillworking, so you just saw it on
the social media.
Yeah, and it's like I'm missingthat thing I really like.
Okay, I like art and I saw thatas like a balloon on the.
(45:25):
It's just on the sky and likemany, many, it's like balloons
just going up.
But it's like that is like aballoon on the sky and like many
, many it's like balloons justgoing up.
But it's like, is it called?
Like I don't know what it'scalled, but it's just make it
look like animal or somethinglike that, and then it's just
(45:46):
beautiful.
If I can see from my eyes, yeah, you know and experience it
yourself.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, not just looking at your phone and see
yeah, it's, it is about likeyour you.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
You do experience from your eye.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, in like time I agree, and but you know I'm a
kind of person that first of all, I don't much care of
sightseeing.
So, for example, I will not goto watch the big buddha or some
mountain, or this is not mystyle not myself, but even if I
(46:23):
do do watch something beautiful.
I'm not the kind of person Itake pictures, because I fucking
hate it.
Now you go everywhere, evenconcerts or everywhere that you
go that people see somethinginteresting.
The automatic reaction is takephone and take picture or take
video.
Why, why don't I just enjoythis moment?
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah right, Exactly.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
I don't understand that.
You see, you know I saw a videothe other day that they
compared a rave party from Ibiza20 years ago or 25 years ago
and now, so 25 years ago.
There is the artist thatplaying the music and everyone
is just dancing.
(47:06):
It is coming for that artistthat's playing the music and
everyone is just dancing.
It is coming for that and nowthey showed the video from one
month ago.
No one is dancing, everyone isjust holding the phone and take
video of the artist.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, I understand.
People are not enjoying itanymore, but they just focus on
the memories, but it's notreally memories.
This is.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
This is like I want to ask you.
If you've been to a concert andyou took a video, when will you
just be at home and watch thatvideo?
No, yeah, exactly never.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
That's.
That's what I I gotta say I'm aperson also like, also like.
For me sometimes it is to dophotos, but not the photo of
stuff like temple or somethinglike that, and probably do like
a sky or like a natural thing.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, but you will take that photo and that's it.
You put the phone back in yourpocket and enjoy yourself, right
?
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, but some people like recording.
Yeah, they stuck with the phoneback in your pocket and enjoy
yourself, right, yeah, but somepeople like recording yeah, they
stuck with the phone and a lotof people from the back they're
gonna enjoy.
I.
I gotta say that that is this.
That is as I have when I'myoung.
I'm going like concert aroundnear my hometown and I have
everyone to like record and thenfeel like the way maybe this
(48:29):
thing, this thing also, it'smade me feel like there's
someone to go up because Icannot see that like people
gonna, everyone will be likethat yeah, the way, like, like,
like this also that's why thisis the problem with the modern
life, like everyone is, is so.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
First of all, there is the fear of missing out.
You know that.
So people think they have to beeverywhere all the time, like
something happens, I have to bethere.
Yeah, and second of all, theynot care about experiencing it.
They care about telling peoplethey experience it.
For example, this is make mecrazy, right?
(49:09):
So let's say we are going to aconcert right.
A DJ, not a concert, and you arethe person that's taking the
video.
The only reason you take thevideo is not for you, it's to
show other people.
You'll be there, yeah, right,right.
Hey look, yesterday I was inthe concert and you show all
your friends and you post onsocial media, but you're not
(49:31):
really be in the concert.
You were so focused on takingthat stupid videos.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, you gotta show up to order yeah, you not really
enjoy it it's just, it's gonnashow off, it's called show off
yeah, but it's fucked up.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
yeah, it's fucked up that people don't care about
showing other show, as you saidto other people.
Oh, I've done that.
I've been here.
I did that Instead of justactually be there.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
It's like you have to realize you're not just the
only one there.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Like yeah, If you will look through my phone, the
pictures in my phone or thevideos in my phone.
First of all there are so fewpictures in there, most of the
pictures are of people that askme to take pictures of them Me
also and I'm never sitting andtaking selfies and stuff like
that For me sometimes.
It's okay, you're beautiful,I'm ugly.
(50:22):
So I don't care about taking myown selfies Right, but you will
never see picture of sightseeing.
For example, I did.
I needed to go to cambodia afew few days ago and come back
and everyone in the bus that wedrove over every time they
passed an interesting mountainor there was a very beautiful
(50:46):
scene there that there is amountain, that the top of it was
outside but the middle was in acloud, I understand I was
looking at it and thinking, wow,it's beautiful.
No one else did that.
Everyone else just took a videoof that fucking moment with
their phones blocking the windowyou know they're not even
looking just to show.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
And just sorry, I'm just like that's why I told you
know they're not even looking,just to show Sorry, I'm just
like that's why I told you like,yeah, and the way is, I'm
missing good things happening inthe daytime a lot.
Then I feel like, yeah, itcould be better if I can spend
daytime.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Can I ask you a question?
Do you enjoy the daytimeactivities more than the
nighttime activities?
When you walked in the bar Likeyou are more happy now.
You feel you are doing morestuff that is enjoyable to you.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, I'm probably going to say, you know, like you
said, no one likes to work inlike you say no one like to work
in a bar no one like to work ina bar and someone like, but
just for food time, but doesn'twant for all life.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, no one wants to work at abar for all life.
And for me now I'm feelingbetter because like, okay, I
(52:11):
have time for you know, likespend time with myself and treat
myself better and sleep atnight and have more time to
sleep.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
And drink less.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
And drink less Much less.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
I think you're not drinking now, right?
No, that's good you know, likeis this?
Speaker 2 (52:31):
like I'm feeling, I'm feeling.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
Healthier.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
It's like at first I'm feeling curious before I
come to Patina.
Oh okay, is it like you work ina bar?
You're drinking every dayalcohol, you're so much every
night and most of it is freeright, because the customer pay
for you yeah, and it's likeyou're gonna be like alcoholist.
Of course you gotta be likethat for over a year, over
(53:00):
second years, but it doesn't, Idoesn't feel like I am an
alcoholist.
It it's like I'm finishedworking at the bar and after
that, okay, I have drinks tospill but not like every night.
Last night I was going to aparty that night I have, but
(53:23):
after that no more, and Idoesn't feel like I need to
drink.
I need to drink, I need todrink.
So for me it's like I'm happyto find out, like okay.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
I'm okay, I'm not alcoholic.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, I'm okay, I'm not alcoholic.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah, but you know, alcoholism is not only Almost,
it's never created by drinking.
Drinking Wait, let me explainit's created by a person that
wake up before you even have todrink.
He drink, let's say, a bar girlbar girl that wake up.
(54:03):
The first thing she does shedrink beer.
Then she go to walk.
She drink more, she finish walkshe drinks beer, then she goes
to work.
She drinks more.
She finishes work, she stillgoes drinking.
Yeah, and you know some peoplelike that, that we know together
that like drinking too much.
Yeah, this is alcoholism.
But drinking because you haveto is different than drinking
because you want to.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
You want to?
Yeah, the way is, I don't wantto drink, but I did that because
I want to.
The way is I don't want todrink, but I did that because I
had to do.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Yeah, but I'm sure sometimes you put a lot of coke
and a little bit of Samsung.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah it's like.
For me, healthy is veryimportant.
Say again sorry, I said likehealthy.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Oh, being healthy okay.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Healthy is very important If you have money a
lot if you're a billionaire, butyou have ways healthy like your
health is not good.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah so even if you are the richest man in the world
, you cannot fix that right.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
For me, in my opinion , who is a rich people, who is
very, very have strong body,have strong health.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
And money.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Come on and money body, have strong and money come
on.
And money is this.
Is it like you, how you canhave millionaire but you have to
use in Monday because next dayyou what do you mean?
I mean like if it's not a filenext day you gonna be like not
in you, you gotta be there, youcan date dead but you have one
(55:28):
million.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Oh, so you cannot use the money when you die, of
course.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, so the way it is now, I'm focused on how I can
live for long.
That's why I'm quite working atnight time.
Or you can say like quite Quit,quit, it's called quit Quit
working the night time.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Or you can say like quite quit, quit, it's called
quit, quit walking the nighttime quit of the night time and
quit about drink alcohol yeah so, and you're not a smoker, so
this is good, you're not acigarette smoker, not, not, not.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
And much plus more about like, much plus more about
like.
Before I'm working at the bar Igotta do like a little um rum,
thai rum, so yeah, and big cola.
This time I'm stay.
You know, like in the daytimeI'm go practice dancing away
with myself.
It's a bottle of water and thatthing is also an exercise, it's
(56:26):
an exercise also and it's likefor me it's I'm I'm used to
daytime, I'm sharing um, I'mquit the bar and I feel like,
wow, I can drink water.
You know like I can drink watera lot, yeah, but I feel like
strong.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
You know like I get yeah because you first of all
your body get less sugar,because alcohol is also sugar
and sugar is not very good forus.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
We need sugar sometime, but not as much as,
let's say, if you had 10 drinkseach day, that's a lot of sugar.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah, right, and cola also I can take.
Yeah but, yeah, but yeah, Ihave you know like I like to if
I'm drinking, I like to mix withcola.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
Yeah, but I've stopped drinking, so cola is not
going to be like in my yeah,you just drink water and maybe
sometimes I don't know if youlike juice, maybe orange juice
or pineapple juice.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Yeah, but it's good.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
No, that's what I'm saying, that now you're drinking
.
I think you drink more juiceand more water and healthy stuff
, maybe some shake, some goodshakes.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
Probably I like protein milk.
What is protein milk?
Is it milk?
Is it more like protein?
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Okay, so it's milk that is rich with protein.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Yeah, it's rich with protein.
Okay, so, because I'mpracticing dancing and I had to
use.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
They sell that on 7-Eleven.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yeah, right, okay, so I can say I prefer to drink
milk.
Yeah, it just helps body haveprotein more.
Because I'm kind of let's eatabout me.
You can say you can see.
No, um, I tell you before, onesalad, one.
(58:17):
This salad is one meal.
Yeah, one meal for me.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
So yeah, sometimes I'm just have like salad yeah,
but a few days ago we went toGuillaume restaurant and you did
not eat salad you eat one ofyour best steaks in your life
over there the bull, Becausethis is the first.
Second A second.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, Okay for that time.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
This is when are we going.
The bull, the bull, yeah, yeah,yeah.
I gotta say like I have likevery, very nice, very, very nice
Steak Steak yeah, and I'm gonnasay I'm not a fan of beef, but
this is the first time I triedbeef and that is just a very,
(59:06):
very nice.
Speaker 1 (59:07):
Yeah.
It's a shame I might, aboutbeef, you know first of all, not
everyone serving such a goodquality of beef here you cannot.
And second of all, yes, it'svery expensive.
Speaker 2 (59:20):
You know that if you have a good quality beef, stay
there.
You gonna run a bit, no, ofcourse, of course, of course so
yeah, to answer into it andthank you so much for that time
ah and so, but normally you noteat so much beef, no, not so
(59:42):
much meat, you prefer vegetablesum prefer chicken chicken,
chicken vegetables yeah, andfruits, sorry, fruit Vegetables.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
Prefer chicken, chicken, chicken, vegetables.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
Vegetables, yeah, and fruits, sorry Fruit.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
Do you eat fruits?
Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah, I'm a fan of pebble.
Okay, and yeah, mangosteen,mangosteen.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Of course mangosteen.
No, not mango Mangosteen.
Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Mangosteen I can say I'm a girl from Fruits City,
chantaburi.
I have a queen mangosteen andking durian.
Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
You know that.
I know that because the familyof my wife sometimes when it's
time to pick up the mangosteen,they move to Chantaburi to help
with the.
They work in the farms there,yeah right, to help with the
mangosteen.
They move to Chantaburi to helpwith the.
They work in the farms there tohelp with the mangosteen farms.
I'm working also withmangosteen before by the way,
people that don't know, it's oneof the most delicious foods in
(01:00:39):
the world.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Chantaburi no, no, the mangosteen, I mean one of
the best foods in the world andit's not very common out of
Thailand, for example.
Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
In my country no one even heard about it.
Oh really, in America youcannot find it.
It's only in this area of Asiathat they have it.
It's very special for this area.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
I gotta say, like everyone, if you move, if you
travel in Thailand, flymankoteen you can find it
everywhere, well, in.
Thailand fly mankoteen.
You can find it everywhere.
Yeah, and taste it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
But you know, I never tried durian before.
Huh, I never ate durian before.
Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
I never tried durian before.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Durian.
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Never.
I tell you why.
One time I buy it but then I gowith my wife to eat it.
We cut it and it was a bad one.
It wasn't good, so cut it.
And it was a bad one it wasn'tgood, so she put it in garbage.
And since then I never trieddurian huh.
I never eat, never try.
Why?
Why not have chance?
No one, I don't know how to eatthis.
Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
I need someone to teach me, okay so you just take
a, uh, you, you take, you cut it, yeah, and you just eat it.
It's just like it's it's gonnasay durian, you, when you, when
you eat that after that youcannot drink any alcohol.
It's just like it's just havesugar.
(01:01:59):
I mean it's very sweet okaydurian, and if you do alcohol
it's like a much make too muchsugar, your heart will be your
heart, yeah, your heart.
Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
so it's like much Too much sugar.
Your heart will beat yeah, yourheart.
Oh, so it's like an energydrink.
Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
It's not in a good way.
Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Yeah, in a bad way, like energy drink.
You will feel your heartpumping, yeah and that is going
to be like you know Okay.
Maybe we and you can eat duriansometime.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
My homie just started to have durian sometime, yeah,
of course okay, my, my home.
We just just started to havedurian, okay this year.
So I hope next year gonna belike durian in my farm.
It's gonna be like big, huge.
Okay, you have your own durianfarm oh sorry, I never tell this
to other people.
I have durian farm and longanfarm longan, what is?
Longan, it's a lamia, it's justlike a I know, yeah, yeah, yeah
(01:02:51):
yeah and other fruit.
Yeah, chili, chili farm stillhave okay, in my home, but I'm
not taking care of that this isall about my family.
Yeah, okay, good so yeah, aboutyou.
You think, now you get betteryeah, because of you.
Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Thank you, you're welcome we just did a high five,
but not only because of you,but sometimes when you just talk
about things, it automaticallymakes you feel a little bit
better.
It's our friend.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yeah, and you feel a little better.
Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
It's our friend, yeah , yeah.
Yeah, you see a differentperspective.
And also you have to remindyourself that everyone feels
like shit sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
I have before Everyone.
Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
And it's normal to sometimes feel down and
sometimes feel better.
And once again, yeah, sometimesfeel down and sometimes feel
better.
And Once again, yeah, sometimesfeel better.
And I'm just happy that, yeah,I don't have many friends here,
but I have good friends here,some of them.
Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
And I want to thank you.
Thank you, mike, thank you forcoming and doing this Bonus
episode with me, and I know Someof our listeners will like it
and some will say we are justblabbering.
But this is what friends dothey sit and talk.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Yeah, it's similar like a granny talking to each
other, looking at people walkingaround.
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Yeah, but we are not.
Come on In a way like that yeah, we are not gossip Come on In a
way like that yeah, we are notgossiping about other people.
Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Not gossip, we're just talking.
Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
So thank you, Pim.
Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Thank you, Mike.
Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
And thank you everyone for listening.
I hope you like this concept ofbonus episodes.
Yeah, and again, we willappreciate any like and any
subscribe that you will do forus.
It's really helpful, and thanksalso for our supporters.
Each dollar that we get of youis really important in order to
(01:04:58):
make our podcast better and evento the people that don't donate
, don't like.
Thank you for listening to us.
Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For me it's like, for me it's anew thing to do, and now I do
like a few.
Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Few episodes already.
Few episodes already.
Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I gotta say like I'm learning a lot of this podcast
yeah, and today you learned howto record also.
Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Yeah, I learned it.
And I learned it again.
Yeah, soon I'll show you how toedit.
Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
So thank you to the listener, thank you and, by the
way, everyone that wants to getin touch with us.
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
You can email us to mytaiwifepod at gmailcom.
We are replying to each emailthat we are getting and also, as
I said before, there are newfeatures.
I think it's Spotify, that youcan send us private message
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So we're just happy to hearfrom you.
(01:06:02):
Thank you, guys.
See you on Friday.
Bye.
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