August 21, 2025 • 54 mins
Ever paid for a Affection in Pattaya and wondered what it really costs?
In this unfiltered, no-bullsh*t episode of My Thai Wife Podcast, Mike sits down with Koi, the sexiest ladyboy in Thailand’s wildest city, for a conversation that’s equal parts seductive, shocking, and soul-baring. If you’ve ever walked down Soi 6 and thought you understood the game—think again.
Koi has spent nearly a decade navigating the neon-lit jungle of Pattaya’s bar scene. From her early days hustling 2,500 baht plus drink commissions on Soi-7 to her current reign at 69 Bar, she’s seen it all: the players, the paydays, the promises, and the heartbreak. She breaks down the unwritten rules of bar girl survival—how to flirt without feeling, how to spot a wallet from across the room, and how to keep the fantasy alive just long enough to get paid.
“I gotta have iPhone. I gotta have gold,” she says, with the kind of unapologetic swagger that only comes from living the hustle. She’s been the fantasy—dolled up, seductive, and ready to play the part. But now? She’s done acting. Koi strips off the mask and lays it all bare: the emotional toll, the blurred lines between love and transaction, and the moment she chose truth over performance.
Mike guides the conversation with his signature mix of comic edge, streetwise curiosity, and deep respect for the Game and its Rules. He doesn’t just ask questions—he digs. And what comes out isn’t just juicy nightlife gossip—it’s a raw, intimate portrait of a Ladyboy who’s lived every shade of Pattaya’s pleasure and pain.
This episode isn’t for the faint of heart. It’s for the curious, the jaded, the romantics, and the skeptics. Whether you’ve been seduced, scammed, or just fascinated by Thailand’s nightlife, Koi’s story will slap you awake, challenge your assumptions, and leave you questioning everything you thought you knew about ladyboys, love, and the price of connection.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike and we are as always.
Since you guys start to help us, we start doing it in this
studio here, which is Fox 3Studio in Teppercit in Pattaya.
These guys help us a lot withpromoting, with shooting it and
(00:24):
with the whole setup, and I knowyou guys like it, so I want to
thank them.
Uh, we really appreciate thatand I have a very special guest.
I know I always say that, butshe's one of the most sexiest
ladyboys you can find in pattaya.
Her name is koi.
Hello, hello Koi.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Hi mate.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I'm going beautifully .
What about you?
I'm doing?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
okay.
I would say okay.
Normally I say everythingalways okay, but today I'm just
doing okay.
You cannot have perfect daysall the time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You know yeah exactly .
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Sometimes our energy is a bit down, a bit up.
It's changing all the time andI accept that, yeah, well, but
everything is go beautifully.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I love that and it's really good winter today and, of
course, it's exciting to behere with you.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, thank you by the way, but if we're talking
for one second about weather, soright now, in my country,
yesterday was like a record ofheat.
It was 51 degrees, oh 51.
It was never like that.
Maybe I'll be there.
I think it's everyone how yourmakeup is melting and everything
.
Yeah, it's the global warmingor I don't know, but it's.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's crazy like I don't know it's different with
here, so hard, by the way, Icome here.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It's, oh god, it's hot here, but it's always the
same weather, you know.
So it's always ranging between,let's say, 25 to 32, okay, so
it's okay, you get used to it.
You know, my friend I don'tthink you met him, my friend
Scott when he just first came toThailand first time he was
sweating all the time, for sure,but after a month or a month
(02:03):
and a half here you'll get usedto it.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We are not sweating as much as oh yeah, because so
that's mean he have some moreexperience and maybe it's be no
more for him.
Yeah, it's become normal.
Why?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
exactly, yeah, also you, you know, now you start
drinking more water, so yourbody is staying cool, cool all
the time.
You maybe you change theclothes to something more
comfortable or more light soyou're not sweating as much, but
it's also your body justtelling you hey, okay, we're
fine with that.
You're enjoying yourself inthailand.
We will let you enjoy it.
Yes, I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So I met you first time, actually not that long ago
yeah, just a few days ago from69 Bar in Sayapum, which by the
way, lately became one of mygo-to bars.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Almost every day I go there Because I really like the
environment.
It's very relaxed over there,you know.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So actually I just came back.
This time I stayed there for afew days either, but uh, yes,
please can you tell me how aboutyou?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
no more yeah, I like it because it's relaxed.
It's not too much hustle, nomuch.
No one pushing you too much fordrinks.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You know also, sometime when I need to do some
editing, they let me work fromthere, of course, because
because they are perfect, youknow, girl, and they work there
with a lot of experience.
I really respect them that theyhave.
So really, really enjoy withyour time.
Yes, and of course, the first,from we meet, we talk face to
(03:38):
face about I provide you whatyou like to do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you havework in that night.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, no, this is a routine.
So every time, because I wantto explain to the people that
never been here.
Okay, so whenever someone go toa bar right one time, let's say
I'm a new customer I go to thebar, I walk in, what you tell me
?
I will say no, no, not.
I will say just, i'm'm here.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I'm welcome, thank you and ask you how is your
beautiful day?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
My day is okay.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, thank you.
That's with my opinion, to askthe customer, but I would have
different with anyone.
Just my idea.
I cannot.
I want to play with you.
Oh, you want to?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
play with me?
We play.
I'm a customer.
Okay, I walk into the bar.
We play.
I'm a customer.
Okay, I walk into the bar.
You see me.
I sit in a table.
You come to me.
What's going on?
First, you greet me.
Hello, how are you?
Yes, of course Go on.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Okay, Wait a minute.
I gotta say so to make youinteresting.
In May I will ask, of course,everything about you and of
course I gotta say, please can Ihave one thing and see the joy?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
but you're not offering me drink yet.
Oh, I need to offer me drinkfirst.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So okay, my, what you like to drink?
Honey, I would like to drinkvodka.
Shrebs for now please, oh okay,I will come back in a minute
just a moment, please.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, you walk fast.
You bring me the drink back, ohsure yeah, and I come back with
that thing.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I got to ask you that you interesting someone here.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, I like you, yeah, yeah, yeah, you look very
beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You are handsome and sweet like that that's why you
take me here.
Thank you you are.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate it.
I love to give a good serviceto customer or something like
that.
I saw them, that they startwith a beautiful morning there
and you know people looking forgoodness you could have.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So you make sure they had a good day that you had
Like.
I know many times that I go toa bar.
The second or the thirdquestion they ask you is have
you eat already?
Because they want to make sureyou already had food right.
So the ladies normally come andask me you eat rice already.
And then I say yeah, yeah, Ieat.
And then they ask if I want adrink, if I can buy them a drink
(05:59):
, of course, it's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, it's a good, but yeah, but I ask for me that
it depends that uh who said, ifshe have uh enough experience or
good english, she can give youuh another uh, you think it will
be more, a better experience?
Yeah, I think experience isreally more important for lady.
Feel like me.
So, uh, just so you know, I Inever studying before by my
(06:27):
english.
I like uh listening and come tospeaking.
I like you yourself, thought youtaught yourself everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that'sme, because I, hopefully, when I
have dealing with customer andof course I I don't really know
about our next lesson of anotherone, but I try to explain
myself how to be here and servewith our customer and of course
(06:50):
I think, hopefully we alwaysenjoy and beautiful time with us
.
Okay, something like that.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So I can feel.
So I don't know much about you,okay, but I can feel that you
do have a lot of experienceworking in Pattaya in general.
So have you worked bars before?
Yes yes, how many bars youworked before?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I think I have salary first time from Soy 7, land of
Smile Bar.
Okay, yes, there is a reallygood bar for me, because that
time I don't know how to speakEnglish and welcome customers.
Okay, I think that time I startwith my salary 2,500 baht with
free room.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Okay, and of course that's my room and you get
drinks.
Yes, yeah, drink commission.
30 baht.
30 baht for every drink.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yes, okay, and after that I'm more, get experience,
can more speak English.
I change for the 69 bar placeBefore they have their own one
from the Soi Made in Thailand.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, soi Mith Mith Night, it's called.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, yeah, something like that.
Okay, so, yeah, but this onethey say the new 69.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
The new 69.
Yes, I just been there for twoweeks and the time you see, yeah
, yeah, okay, yes, I've justbeen there for two weeks and the
time you see, yeah, yeah, okay,and I guess also on your free
time, you're doing somefreelancing also, because most
of the working girls andladyboys in Pattaya also, like
they use apps like Thai Friendlyor Tinder or Grindr or whatever
(08:21):
to find customers.
You think, like, how long doyou already stay in Pattaya Not
this time, I mean in general,almost 10.
Almost 10 years, yes, okay.
And do you think, like thewhole thing with the apps and
the I mean Thai-friendly Grindr,tinder you think it's changed
the whole freelance thing?
(08:42):
Friendly, grindr, tinder youthink it's changed the whole
freelance thing?
Because I remember, if we look10 years ago, I remember many
people are just at the night andladies and ladyboys just stand
in the beach hall and this ishow they look customer.
But now you can just sit home,go on the apps, look for
customers.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You don't even have to sweat yourself.
Yeah, we have to change withthat situation, because I think
now about the online or anythingmuch better than uh you prefer
it.
Yes, I, I prefer it.
Okay, yes, so uh, ask, for meit's nothing different.
90, if you stay on the beatload.
(09:21):
You are.
See, face to face, you are bycompetition or whatever.
Yeah, of course you must.
90%, they take you 90%.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, you think if you go to the bridge road 90%
you get customer.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, and be sure to take hand by hand because we
work together.
But come back to the onlinefrom the Thai family or tinder
or whatever you say uh, how, howdo you know this?
This?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
you can call video, you can do video call.
You can ask for pictures, likeyou can ask even hey, can you
show me a picture without makeupor with make you?
You know also some people whichI think it's not nice, but will
ask uh, show me a pussy, orshow me your cock, or show me
your teeth, it doesn't matter.
(10:12):
But there is options there tofind maybe something that is
more suitable for you I agreewith you.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
But someone like we know people different need and
different opinion like differentyeah.
So uh, after me that somereason customer don't ask, but
80 they ask for listen.
You say really?
Yeah, normally they ask forpictures and stuff like this
yeah, yeah, they start like thatand show me naked or whatever
they want to see.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
But maybe then they just fuck off.
They not want you, not becauseyou are not good, because they
only wanted the pictures.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yes, of course.
That's why I say in B-Lost muchbetter.
Yeah, so sometimes they lie.
I have this lesson, that thisstory.
Of course I'm a little bitupset, but I move on from that,
about that they let me go to ahotel right, explain from the
beginning.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So you stay in the beach hold.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
No, we stay online.
Oh, okay, chat online together,hi-friendly or whatever.
Yeah, I come from Thai, philly,come to Lai, we chat each other
.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I just tell for the listeners Lai is a very common
chatting app.
It's like WhatsApp, but for theAsian countries.
I think it's not only theAsians, but it's very popular
over here.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, yeah, they do Like.
They invite you to visit themin the hotel.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So the customer tell you hey, I like you, can you
come to my hotel?
Yes, okay, what time was that?
Night time, daytime.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It doesn't matter, it depends when you're not lazy.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
They message will come to you, that's true, it
depends.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
When you're not lazy, the message will come to you.
That's true.
So after me, sometimes they lieLike you went to hotel or room
number, everything is like that.
There is no one there.
Yeah, like a bullshit at all.
Why do they want to do that?
Just to play with you?
I want to ask them either, butthey disappear already.
(12:03):
I can't ask anyone, yeah, butlike I know, I remember.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Let's say, if I go Thai friendly, which I sometimes
do, and let's say I want tomeet someone, Normally they say
hey, can you send me yourlocation?
Yes, to make sure I'm reallyhere.
Yes, I am.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I do that.
Either.
You also ask for location?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, yeah, but everything is.
That's why I tell you from thebeginning everything really be
perfect.
Like he make you trust you,like make you trust he there and
exactly I will meet he there,okay, but when you arrive there,
it's empty, nobody.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay, but I'm sure you also had like good
experiences.
Yeah, I'm sure sometimes peopletell you meet you in time,
friendly, and say, hey, listen,actually I don't want us to fuck
, can we go to a dinner or canwe have some time to some fun
together.
I think it's also happened liketo have like good experience
like that yeah, this storyhappened to me with my ex-boy
(13:01):
ex-boyfriend yeah, yeahboyfriend, yeah, oh yeah, we've met
before.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, that's a very special time because how we meet
Wait, I want to know.
Okay, we meet in Tinder, inTinder, yeah, and we have a
conversation to vote, I agree bythe way.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Conversation, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Conversation was like good, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
No problem, I keep it better.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
So he an appointment with me to meet in the Starbucks
from Central Pattaya, centralPattaya, yes, so I went there in
the time, yeah, and of coursehe.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
So he not ask you to go to the room or something
about the sex?
He just want to meet you.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Just dinner.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Just dinner and have a few drink.
Yeah, he didn't agree with meto to go to bed with me, but uh,
yeah, like a feeling, like me,I I'm more in, like a what does
mean with my look and my energyand with my confidence myself to
make him interesting to take me.
(14:06):
That that's your duty.
You could do like how to makethe customer interesting in you.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, of course you can say agree with everything
from appointment, yeah, before,beforehand, yeah, okay, and
after faith to faith, I think I,yeah, yeah so you meet him in a
date and you went out for adate and few drinks and it was
nice, and then you just keep onmeeting for a few days and then
you became boyfriend, girlfrienduh no, we try to learn each
(14:34):
other for a while, for a whileyes, okay, like he was, but he
was still here or he went backhome already he back home, okay,
so I stayed with him from thelast two days he was here.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I think he can sell this show, so, yeah, and after
that I followed him to Bangkok.
We have a good story In Bangkok.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, how long have you been together?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
We've been together in Pattaya six months.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
No, I mean the relationship Almost two years,
two years yes.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And you're still together.
Six months he's here, sixmonths he goes.
Yes, he has to work because Ilove money, money, money.
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Okay and I respectfully ask.
So you are kind of stilltogether, but he knows, when
he's not here you're still goingwith customers and go to 60, go
walk the bars or something, orit's kind of in the middle, All
right.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So this thing we're coming because you have to ask
yourself, or both of you, firsthow much do you trust each other
?
Okay, I am an honest person andI try to keep do everything.
This.
My word was saying yeah, so Ithink him either.
So for me, you open about this.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yes, you talk about this and he know like, okay,
sometime, because you need money, as you said.
Yeah, you need to make providefor yourself.
You have to take care ofyourself and your family, I
guess also, so you still need tobe working.
This means walking the bar, getdrinks maybe, I don't know
sometimes going with customersokay.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
So who want to be my long relationship?
I have to give them my, my, myopinion and my offer.
They agree with me or not.
So I call boyfriend because hehave to, uh, support me, be my
sponsor or stay by my sidealready, so he, you mean he have
to send you some money.
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah like, uh,how much for man.
(16:34):
Like uh, okay, can you staywith.
They are waiting for me, I giveyou this, this.
They're gonna have pen for bothof them.
Yeah, and after that.
Yeah, everything is cool.
Beautiful, me never fight whenwe stay far away, but me fight
when we see fit, of course.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yes, it's always like that that the human always
jealous it's not only jealous, Ithink also sometime, especially
when people stay apart for along time when you come together
, then you see the good stuff,but also you start to see the
bad stuff and sometime, like noteveryone is very like um tuned
to each other.
You know, sometimes it's okayto have some fights.
(17:13):
It's even good, because you cantake out aggression, you can
take out bad feelings and then,of course, you have makeup sex.
After the fight you can havebetter sex yeah, I agree with
you.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, yeah, I understand.
Yeah, so there are benefits forhaving fights.
Sometimes, yes, if you don'tfight in bed, it's not so
exciting, that's so.
Yeah, but sometimes it's tooover if the person move on for
that reason, but the person staythere.
Sometimes it's really difficult, difficult for us to understand
.
Like, okay, now we have meteach other and after that we
(17:50):
went to bed together.
We forget what the reason inthe past, something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, but again, here comes the thing of a good
conversation.
So when you stay with someone,for example, when I used to stay
with my ex my ex is a Thai ladywe used to be together for
eight years when we had fightfor me it was very difficult to
(18:14):
go to sleep before we fix theproblems.
So sometimes we even sit andtalk two, three hours to make
sure we both find a solution.
It can be hard, but after youfeel much better because you
know, okay, I express myself, Itell my partner, okay, what I
feel, what I like, what I don'tlike.
Okay, she tell me that back andhopefully we can move on.
(18:37):
You know, yeah, the problem, asyou said, sometimes people
start fighting and then say,okay, okay, okay, we not fight,
but they not fix the problem.
Yeah, then they have sex or not, it doesn't matter.
The next day they wake up andthey forget oh, so jealous, both
of you now.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So yes, it's really difficult to see someone like
that like uh, you have uh thatlisten with her.
Yeah, but we still.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
But now we are still ex, you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Eventually we separated, but whatever the time
your part together is abeautiful.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, of course I remember the good things.
Yeah, yes, I remember the badthings also Difficult to find
person like that, I think.
Okay, I will tell you somethingthat I told many times.
Too many people I meet inPattaya, yeah, yeah, sometimes
when you meet a bar girl or alady boy, it doesn't matter.
(19:31):
Yes, I'm not talking only aboutgirls or lady boys, I'm talking
about people here in Pattaya.
Most of them are working girls,most of them have.
They are drinking a lot ofalcohol in a daily base.
Some of them are doing drugsand also they are normally a
very big age gap.
So sometimes, let's say, a ladyor lady boy that is 22 or 23,
(19:55):
her boyfriend will be 50 yearsold.
What is the connection overthere?
Come on, it's not possible tohave something in common.
She's a baby compared to you.
You know, she likes twodifferent shows, she likes
different music, she likeseverything different and you,
you are the old guy, right?
And also there is another thing.
There is the culturaldifference.
(20:16):
So the asians are verydifferent from the westerns in
their culture, in the respect,in the way they talk, the way
they treat each other.
It's something that many couplesdon't don't understand, and
sometimes people go into arelationship when it's something
that many couples don't don'tunderstand and sometimes people
go into a relationship when it'snot not fitting.
Um, for example I give you lastexample before you can my ex.
(20:39):
She was only one year youngerthan me, okay, so the age was
always this, almost the same.
We had many things in common,okay, right, yeah, she had a
drinking problem and I had myown problems, but it's okay
because we were, as I said, thesame age, the same interest, so
we can grow up together.
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand that, but I have the
experience like that either.
But Pattaya, just say hello,welcome to Pattaya.
They know exactly what theywant in themselves already.
What do you mean?
You?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
think all the guys come here only for sex.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Don't mean that at all, but Most of them yes, most
of them they're looking for it.
They didn't really with longrelationship with you or
something.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
What is that so different with the regular
dating scene, I mean back home?
Let's say, I want to meetsomeone, I go on Tinder or any
other app I have, and we meet,we go date, but of course I want
to fuck her or she wants tofuck me, it doesn't matter, the
sex is always there.
The thing is that you have tothink like, like yeah, here men
(21:53):
are going with more ladies orladyboys because they have more
options.
Sure, but if you like someone,you like someone.
You know, when you have this,this connection, this click,
okay, you know you're gettingconnected with someone, then
it's, it can be real yet can be,but I have to to come back on
my uh real time that I this ison duty.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
You pain if you do that because and you get made,
you get your right.
You, you lot, a lot of customerif you try to have that inside
your mind yeah, I'm talking,yeah, I understand.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm not talking from the perspective of the working
girls.
I'm talking of the Westerns.
Yeah, the Westerns.
I think they do look for thatreal deep connection, some of
them.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I have to apologize for you deeply.
I never been there situation.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Really Never.
Someone come to you and tellyou Koi, like after two few
times you meet Koi.
Listen, I really like you.
What can we do so we can betogether?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I have a lot of guys give me the offer like that and
the first answer for me that Isay I apologize, I have duty to
do so.
People come to Pattaya toholiday.
They are journey, whatever,they come for fun because they
holiday.
You have to exactly know whatthey want.
(23:11):
So I try before put my feeling,put my heart yes, come to be my
man, I will stay by your side,or whatever it's pain and wake
your time.
You get nothing much than likeyou'll be free, okay, yeah
that's me.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So you're money money oriented.
You're thinking, okay, I don'twant to waste my time, I better
get like more customers thanregular customers, because I'm
here to make money.
Of course, no one want to workas I'm sorry for the the words
I'm going to use, but as aprostitute or a bar girl.
No one's dream to work that.
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They work that because theyneed the money.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah yeah, like, lady need money, a man need a lady.
Right, If we agree each otherwhat appointment we prefer to
ask.
Yeah, like, okay, you give me,uh, you transfer me slowly, like
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this, I'll be your girl.
Like, uh, one by one, you giveme, I give you, but I don't
really have like that, I haveonly my own experience.
Be, be alone.
I love to spend time by alone.
I I try twice time with twoex-boys and I compete, always
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thinking about past story we ushave before.
I always say just waste my time, because if you need to really
want long relationship or needsomeone stay by your side, just
get out for this village.
Pattaya is never enough foranyone.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
You know I have two questions for you.
I will start with the first one.
I had some bad experience theother day.
So there was someone talkingwith me on Thai Friendly and she
want to meet, and I tell herlisten right now, like I don't
want because I don't have muchmoney.
I wait for my salary andwhatever.
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It doesn't matter.
I'm so sorry, so we cannot meetright now.
I don't want to waste your time, I don't want you, so you have
to wait.
When I will have the money, wecan meet.
Then she said to me okay, youdon't have to pay.
Then she said to me okay, youdon't have to pay, we can just
go eat something.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I said okay, that's a good possibility, you sure you
want to go eat with me.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
So yeah.
So she said yeah.
So then we go to somerestaurant.
We had dinner together, yeah.
And after dinner she say can Icome to your room?
I say, listen, I told youbefore I don't want to waste
your time.
I, I don't want you to feelthat I'm not respecting you.
We can do that, but anothertime when I will have the money.
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Okay, I like you, I want tomeet you when I'm able to afford
that, right, all right.
Then she said okay, she wenthome and then she started
sending me message.
Oh, you are a fucking cheapchild.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
To be immune.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Okay, you not even pay me for the time when I sit
with you, eat with you, and andthen I say, wait, I asked you
before.
Okay, I asked you before.
I told you I don't have.
You want to eat with me?
It's fine, I take you to a nicerestaurant.
We have fun together, we talk,I pay for the food, right?
Yeah, I told you before that Iprefer not meeting you because I
don't have.
You cannot angry me now foryour waste of time.
(26:32):
Yeah, you agree, yeah, yeah,yeah, right.
But then she say, no, I, I, Inot understand what you say
because I'm not good English.
I say, come on, don't bullshit.
Okay, I don't like this kind ofgames, you know.
If she tells me, listen, youwant to take me to a dinner, you
have to pay for my time, I willsay okay, I'm sorry, so I
cannot take you to dinner.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, so this one experience, I be true before the
way I pass.
So yeah, before I be like her,I get mad because I say this guy
reject on me, he really fuckedoff or not nice to me or he
bullshit.
I forget that in my mind fromthe beginning.
I agree with the appointmentand I prefer him to go to dinner
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.
So that's why I try to say thatthe lady boy is a good much
like more high ego, likesomething like that.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, but ego is always a problem with everyone.
Everyone have their own ego andit's very easy to get mad,
especially when now it's the lowseason and it's very hard to
make money now yeah, come backto your story.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
See, she don't.
She don't upset that.
Uh, you, you don't pay her oranything to her.
She upset that.
She think you reject her.
You think that, yeah, yeah, allladyboy, because ladyboy, what,
what?
What ladyboy looking for, ifthey agree with your appointment
, like that.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
By the way, who tell you it was a ladyboy?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I never say it was a ladyboy uh, excuse me, sir, you
sit on my bar every night, so,yeah, what doesn't matter.
Yeah, this is my opinion.
If I mistake, apologize aboutthat.
But come back to to that if youtake her, she don't mind,
because that time she needs sick.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I don't think so because I I maybe you right.
I tell you what I think I thinkin her mind she said okay, he
take me to dinner.
If I convince to fuck, thenmaybe later he have to pay me
money, not now, but he get, so Iget that money for sure.
I think maybe this is what shethink.
I don't know if it's about thereject or not, because you know
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what you might be right.
It's your fault, it's my fault.
I'm the bad man.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
It's your fault.
You could ask your in yourconcern first oh, did she speak
the truth?
She really want some reasonlike that just for dinner and
have sex.
Because it's your fault, youdon't think carefully enough.
Okay, maybe, yeah, yeah, Maybeyou are, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It's okay, I need the input.
That's why I asked you.
So you think, basically what Ishould have done is have the
dinner with her, then take herto my room, do whatever we do in
the room and then not pay herBecause she agrees.
But we're not talking about thesex, we're talking about the
dinner.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
We're talking about the dinner, then we could have
early dinner.
If she tried to blame you later, when she arrived her room and
she tried to reply thousandstory, come to you like hey,
you're a bad bitch, or whathouse is like that.
It's not your fault, it's herproblem, it's not your problem,
it's not my problem.
It's now okay because uh I.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I think I was very respectful.
Yeah, you know, when I tellingher the whole truth and I told
her listen, I cannot right now.
I don't want to make you feelnot wanted.
I don't want you to feel likeyou not appreciated for your
time.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
My sweetie, not too far from you, behind you, take
her, try to give her offer andsee if she will blame you or not
.
So actually for me, I be thatway for a long time, a couple of
years it's Pattaya.
I don't have much opinion foranother allow here, because
people, they have differentthings and different needs.
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You know, like, ask for me, Ido, but I get nothing left.
I still same.
I think for seven years.
I get nothing left.
I still same.
I think for seven year I getmade of customer.
Customer don't keep me doing.
Customer don't give me whatexactly I want.
I blame them.
I still get angry.
Yeah, and I just change forthis person for a year ago.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
So you change a bit your personality?
Yeah, because you want to behappy or because you think you
will make more money if youactually stop be so angry I need
, uh, I need a friend, I need ahonest human behind.
You feel distance, you feelthat maybe people are scared
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about you because how you acted.
Yeah, I, I.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Okay, that's interesting I think that you
went to my bar.
I serve with you, or my friendserve with you, ask for me.
People stay.
Oh, she, she do like this is sosweet, she serve with pity.
Nice, she are lovely, she needto uh fuck or anything.
But don't think that for me,because I give you like that, I
hopefully I will serve with yougood and I give you a good net
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back to you.
People looking for a good net,people looking for smile.
So so, before I upset and Iwake, my time for many years I
think it's enough.
So now just my, what is yourhappier?
I am happy, happy and, ofcourse, a little bit exciting.
But okay.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
And the second question I wanted to ask you
before because you said thatright now, like you don't, you
try to focus about making money,making money, making money.
How can you control your heart?
What will happen if you meetsomeone handsome like me and you
fall in love?
Oh no, really, with a jokeaside, if you meet someone that
you like, really me, so okay.
(32:14):
Okay, if you meet someone thatyou really like, even maybe just
buy you a few drinks andwhatever, or even if you go with
him sometimes and he pay foryou, of course.
But you start to have feelingwhat you do?
You block your heart, you tryto block your heart and say, oh,
I don't need this, I need tofocus on myself.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Or you just say you call me by now, or or before.
I let's say now, now for me.
I, I know, have that feelingyou cannot fall in love anymore
yes, I just, I just protectmyself that I have to be like I
know exactly what I do.
Now the thing I do is duty.
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It's duty.
They come holiday, they payyour drink, they pay your food.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That means they pay, but not everyone come here
holiday.
Have many people that live herealso.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But I think I own now .
I didn't have time like a younglady boy because I think money.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
You know that old.
You know that old.
Come on, you just like to saythat you know that old.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Really appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
So up for me to want that feeling.
Of course half I'm a human.
I have that feeling.
To be honest, I have thatfeeling.
Of course I have a dream aboutthat, but not too far.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Everything has limits you have to forget the way you
be and you don't scared youmaybe lose opportunity.
So what I mean?
Some of the guys I'm surereally like you and some of the
guys you maybe have a very goodlife with them if you choose to
open your heart.
You know you don't have thisfeeling.
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Oh man, maybe I'm losing mychance to be very happy with
someone that I like.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I've been looking for it, but now I respect myself
first.
I want to heal myself muchbetter.
I want to heal myself muchbetter because this time I have
to think now you want to shootto the way to be an old lady boy
with nothing left, or you wantto shoot to be an old lady boy
with extra money?
Okay, yet the time is included.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
So for you in your future you see just these two
options, so you don't believe inlove here anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I don't say that I don't believe it's difficult.
It has, but really difficultfor me.
I think that when you have along relationship with me, I
have a good actor, goodexperience.
I have many things to changefor you because I exactly know
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inside me what I want.
I pain when I do that toanother one, to do self-fit like
that.
That's why I change myself tobe uh, I am what I am, like
something like that let me getit right.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
So if you do have a guy that before I'm not saying
yeah, guy that you know thatinterested, interested in you,
and you think, okay, maybe I canget something out of it, oh
sure, so you play you.
You change the mask all thetime, yeah, just to make him
feel, sometimes feel bad,sometimes feel good.
Of course you keep him oncontrol yeah that, that, that's
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ib that's why I feel enough.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yet I feel pain.
When I do that.
I I really ask myself a coupletimes that's this is exactly
what you want to do?
You're hurting someone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wake themup.
I eat the money.
I hate them.
You hate them.
Yeah, I saw it, because any guyI try to long relationship,
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they cry for me, not I cry forthem.
Okay, yes, I apologize thatwhen you be long relationship
with me, you thinking about loveand looking for my heart and
stay beside of you.
I'm looking slowly how much hecan give me.
I gotta have iPhone.
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I gotta have a goal.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I gotta be, you will accomplish your goals.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yes, by the way, I want to be high-cut without no
working because he's so fit.
Okay, that's me before.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I love your honesty.
I think it's very good thatyou're feeling comfortable to
talk about your past feelingsand past history.
I know you are a changed personnow.
What will you do now in thissituation?
You will just tell him sorry, Idon't want to hurt you, I don't
want to waste your time, I'mnot ready for relationship.
Or would you say something likesorry for cutting you, but like
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listen, we can try, but Icannot promise you anything.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I have this lesson and many, many other like that,
but I I love actor.
I don't love the saying, butdifferent because people, people
say when they spend time withyou, I like you, I need you, I I
love you, but but later the actis different, because the
(37:10):
feeling change sometimes, youknow.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Sometimes, when you stay with someone for a long
time, sometimes you even lovethem more.
But sometimes the love can comedown if you are not keeping to
try to love each other.
You know if you are gettingcomfortable too much with
someone or if sometimes you losethe romantic behind the
relationship.
You know it's very importantonce in a while even if you stay
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together with someone threeyears, same house Once in a
while go on a date together,dress nice, you know, take some,
go somewhere special, spend thetime together, not talking
about work, not talking, justtalking about how much you
appreciate each other.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I explain this with my profile, facebook.
I have like 4,000 friends there.
Okay, so I always say peopleconfident by themselves, people
they believe themselves they arebetter than anyone and people
they always that they never doneanything wrong.
(38:09):
Same the guy want to come to me.
When the beginning they need methey never saw from the end was
it come to us.
So after me that when I'm readyto make love with someone, Make
love.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
You not mean sex, you mean like-.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, make love or in a relationship yes, okay so I
have two hand, I have two eye, Ihave my, my strength, I have
power.
Morning, wake up together, yeah, work together, separate work
together.
Evening, come back home,cooking together, shower
together, go to bed together.
Slowly come me, pay anythingtogether and save for a little
(38:50):
bit to to make a trip for acouple time of year.
Yeah, that's what I want.
I don't want to stay high cardwithout working.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yes, I'm looking for that person to to welcome me
give you not only the love, butalso to give you the opportunity
.
You mean, yes, the opportunityto be a better self, a better
you yeah, sometime, sometime I,what would you?
Walk.
If you have this opportunity,let's say you meet someone, he
really likes you and he haveenough money to afford anything.
(39:19):
He say koi, what would you wantto do?
What work you want to to?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
do my when that time is coming.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
The future will find that for you, yeah, but you
don't have any dream for this.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I don't even know that I hope for a future, but I
never dream of the future.
So if I love that person, Ialways want to do everything
better for him.
Okay, like you love me, youwant to give me everything the
best.
Yes, so I don't have a dreamerfor a future.
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I can make, did make, did make,job like this, like this.
Sometime that's pan never exist.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You think, I think I understand you now.
So you wasted so much time thatright right now, even dreaming
sound like a waste of time foryou.
Dream for what better do?
Yes, really, so now we stay.
That's kind of I'm sorry to say, but it's a little bit sad to
hear that.
I tell you why.
I tell you why I'm not.
I'm not thinking you're doingsomething wrong.
(40:17):
I understand exactly whereyou're coming from, but I think
hope and dreams is havemotivation all the time.
If you lose the option to dreamand to hope, sometimes we just
become sad dream and hope yes,for the income.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
You say sad, you have to be spec from the beginning.
First.
You hope that the beginning you, you lead some.
You lose something, lose money,lose anything, no, depends how,
because you just hope and dream.
You lose nothing when you dreamand you hope you have to be
(41:00):
spec.
Of course, people upset peopledream, dream not come over.
People hope, hope doesn't exit.
People upset, upset people cry.
People say people not lucky.
No, you misunderstand from thebeginning.
The beginning.
You think about that.
You saw about that with yourmind.
You lot not think.
You didn't even I pay the papermoney for take the dream come
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over.
No, you're just thinking.
So when they don't exit, youhave to understand.
By the way, okay, never mind,just a new, new choice.
That's me.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, that's why I tell you I understand what
you're saying, but you rememberwhen you were young you had so
much dreams about what you wantto do yes you know, I'm sure
none of them had to do anythingwith the pattern I do.
I None of them.
I'm sure it was beautifuldreams about doing something
that you love and making theworld better.
But then reality hits and youunderstand that the world is
(41:56):
hard.
But I don't know.
I don't want to lose my dreams,I don't want to lose the hope
that someday everything will bebetter.
Maybe you say, maybe now youhear this in your mind, you say,
oh, he's like a baby.
He still dream about this.
Yeah, I want to be baby.
I want to be able to hope forbetter world.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Oh sure, when you are young baby, you say I need to
grow up and be young and besuper full hour or something
like that.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I mean at my age also , I still want to feel better,
hopeful for the future, yeah,but yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
But hope doesn't exist.
You have to to to be spake, notupset.
That's why I say people hopeand dream.
Not wrong, you can, I believe,like, if you have hope, if you
have dream, just keep it on andone day your power will be shy,
okay, yes, but if your power notbe shy, the hope doesn't exist.
(42:55):
Respect, because don't be upset, just move on.
Take another listen, takeanother dream, because people,
when they have a dream, peoplewhen they have a hope, they
think of that listen in theirmind.
Why it's not me?
Why, why it's not?
Speaker 1 (43:10):
happened to me Something like that.
You're talking about somethingelse.
No, you're talking aboutjealousy.
You're talking about looking atsomeone else and say I want to
be like him.
I never say no, no, no, no,sorry, no, it's okay, I
understand what you're saying,but I think you are looking at
the wrong angle.
I'm not talking about seeingother people and say, oh, I want
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to have this, I want to be likethis.
No, I'm saying, looking insideyourself and thinking what I
want to do.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I have no opinion for this.
Really part I deeply, butactually I inside of my
conscience.
You just want to make money no,I just make honestly and do it
with my honesty, okay, because I, I try to speak different with
you, that that, that, that or Ihave no any reason for people
(44:00):
allow behind it's me.
So I, I have only experiencelike me, like uh, of course we
have our own experiences, yeahlike uh, I want to be myself.
Are you yourself?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
now, yeah, I am, you are yourself.
You are not putting masksanymore.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
No.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Good, how was it to make that change Like it was
hard.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
It's hard, but you might learn, I already do.
Yeah, people love to sing, butpeople don't love to do it.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I'm a big believer.
I'm sorry.
I don't blame you.
I know you don't blame me, Iknow you mean in general, but
I'm a big believer in honesty.
I'm a big believer in showingmy true self to people.
Even I tell you more than that.
When I stay with, for example,my ex or with my family, before
it doesn't matter they alwaystell me Mike, you're too honest,
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you tell everything aboutyourself all the time to all
people.
Why, why are you open so much?
I say because I open, becausethis is the only way I know.
I think, keeping secret andkeeping close to yourself all
the time, one will really opento you.
Yes, but when I meet someone, Idon't mind, tell my whole story
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, my whole life story, honestly,without bullshit, without lying
, without making myself big orsmall or whatever.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Finally, I say finally, I really appreciate
that and I agree with you.
You're doing so when you talkto me, you are open with your
honesty and your experience.
Bypass the way you be.
Yeah, yes, because I reallywelcome to listen it and if
something I think it's work inthe life for next future, I will
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keep it better to me.
I really open like that.
Yeah, that's why I I happy tobe myself.
I don't want to feel like that.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I think we're very similar in that point right now.
So we both come and just showwho we are really.
We don't try to be actors withanyone, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Like I am what I am.
You agree with me.
You walk this way.
You disagree, just separate.
It's really simple.
Okay, it's simple.
I'm sorry, no that's good.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
I know how easy it is .
But for some people it's noteasy because they feel very
vulnerable.
They are scared that someonewill hurt them if they will
really open to someone.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I've been hurt for a long time.
Everyone's been hurt.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I learned with that and nowI have my own child, my young
sister, young brother.
I want.
That's the big deal we have todo.
That's a good actor.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Wait, you have young sister, yeah, to take care.
Young brother, yeah, and whatmore.
On child yes, you have a child.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
I have a son, really, yes, how old?
Three years now.
Three years, yeah, and that'swhy I really more forgot about
my actor.
If you have a big dude, thiswill change your life.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yeah, this is why you decide to change, because you
have a son.
I am.
Can I ask you how you make?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
So this comes with my family.
So young brother, he's just 17years old, he go have a
girlfriend and make her pregnant.
Okay, yes, and they invite methat.
Oh, sita, what can I do?
Because my girlfriend like this, like this, and at that time
they're very young, yeah, theydon't know how to do, they need
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to peel, do long way a bad thing, you understand.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
But I tell her that I say, okay, just hold on, don't
think that in hurry up.
Can you be, like I tell, withmy girlfriend for young butter?
I tell, I tell her that can yoube a patient for nine months?
I give you everything you want.
Just tell me I I keep you, butwhen you're born, that that
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child is, is be powerful with meso this child is on your name
now.
Yes, really it's a powerful ofme Okay.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Like a.
You know I'm so in thegovernment.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
You are his.
No, no, no, no, not yet, butLike a I don't deem for Okay,
you are my son.
I am powerful.
You know.
I just want to have a life asmuch as I can.
It's that time.
But they listen everything fromme what my word was.
That's why I have to do myactor is really important.
I cannot do nonsense or stupidgirl cannot.
(48:41):
I am a lady boy, but I'm notdifferent with your feeling.
I'm not high or not down.
We are same.
We happy me, smile me, upset.
It's same.
No one is better than one.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Of course we are all human.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, that's why I try to.
I forget all along the reason Ihave boyfriend, girlfriend
customer.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Now you have to focus on your son.
Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Wow, that's so beautiful.
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate that.
No, really, because Iunderstand.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
I'm so proud of you also.
But it's beautiful thatsometime all we need is someone
else to take care in order tofix ourselves.
Sometime our life just getcrazy and crazy and then one day
we have responsibility and thenwe say, okay, we cannot be
crazy anymore.
We cannot.
We have to be good people tohelp someone else.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
This thing what is more important for you, your
soul or your inside?
Speaker 1 (49:44):
conscience.
I want you to explain more whatyou mean.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Like for me.
I come, I be honest with myconscience inside to show out,
not about my soul myself, okay,so you try to use your heart and
not your brain.
Yes, some, some reason likethat, because the, the soul,
change every second.
The thoughts, yeah, yes, butthe conscience never do anything
mistake.
The concern always come to betrue for you, but the source
make you change.
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
But I think sometimes , especially, it's for good
people, not the bad people.
Sometimes they read thesituation wrong.
They are too nice or they aretoo good or they help too much
because inside they feel, oh,it's good, but then someone take
advantage, someone use them.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
You know what I mean.
In the beginning, I upset withthat.
I'm not strong enough for thatreason, but now it's never mind.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Now, even if someone use you, you okay.
If someone tell you I don'tknow whatever, koi, I need your
help something.
But when you ask help back,they never help you.
You not feel?
Oh, I do mistake.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
No, before I upset.
Now it's no, it's really normalfor me now.
It's like they call for help.
I help them, yeah.
So when I help them, I askmyself already exactly you want
to do that.
If one day you have nothingleft, you need help, you need
them come to stay by your sideand help you back and daily
(51:20):
check you or you didn't pay, Iask myself, no, no, no, because
not that.
Listen, I want to help them tohave a good dream to a next
future.
You do it selfishly.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
So you're not doing it in order to make yourself
feel good.
You just want to help someonewithout anything I can, I try,
you know many, many, many, manypeople in all religions of the
world, but especially in thebuddhist religion.
Years of learning to get towhere you are.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
You're basically now a buddhist you try, I believe,
on my buddha, yeah, but you do.
You not only believe, you doalso I, I, I try my best and I
hope I, I, I do well yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
So we have only three minutes left, okay for this
episode.
So I will do the closing bit,okay.
So first of all I want to thankyou very much.
It was so much pleasure totalking with you and I know
before you worried we talked toomuch about sex and this, but
you see, just normalconversation yeah, yeah, this be
(52:25):
me this is what I like and Ireally want to thank you for
coming.
I think you did an amazing job.
I hope, hope, you had fun.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Okay, so after me I'm so happy and exciting and get
some more new experience and Ireally thank you really much and
appreciate that to be here andyou're so sweet.
And let me explain my privacyto you for listening.
I would like also, if you havehave some time, you can join us
(52:56):
in other episodes oh, with mypager, yeah, and the the last
thing I gonna say, that I willcome to put our heart and
feeling with that.
I just want to say, guy, all ofyou, not doesn't matter who you
are or how you be, you just bethe word that if you do good,
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good thing will come back to you, karma, that's all.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
We are talking about fucking karma.
Yes, and there is anything elseyou want to say to the
listeners.
Maybe you want them to followyour social media?
Oh, sure.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
So about social media , I just start from the
beginning here again, because Ijust come over for two weeks ago
, so I really want to saywelcome to you guys to visit me
in the 69 bar from Soy Pot Homeyeah, the new 69 bar.
I be there every night and Ihope I can have a good service
for all of you there.
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That's beautiful and I will make sure, guys, if you
are interested in being herfriends on social media or even
talking with her, I will add herlinks down in the comments so
you can find her there, Thankyou.
And, of course and I want tothank you for listening Thank
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If you can again like andsubscribe, it does a lot.
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Bye, bye, thank you.
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike and we are as always.
Since you guys start to help us, we start doing it in this
studio here, which is Fox 3Studio in Teppercit in Pattaya.
These guys help us a lot withpromoting, with shooting it and
(00:24):
with the whole setup, and I knowyou guys like it, so I want to
thank them.
Uh, we really appreciate thatand I have a very special guest.
I know I always say that, butshe's one of the most sexiest
ladyboys you can find in pattaya.
Her name is koi.
Hello, hello Koi.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Hi mate.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I'm going beautifully .
What about you?
I'm doing?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
okay.
I would say okay.
Normally I say everythingalways okay, but today I'm just
doing okay.
You cannot have perfect daysall the time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You know yeah exactly .
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Sometimes our energy is a bit down, a bit up.
It's changing all the time andI accept that, yeah, well, but
everything is go beautifully.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I love that and it's really good winter today and, of
course, it's exciting to behere with you.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, thank you by the way, but if we're talking
for one second about weather, soright now, in my country,
yesterday was like a record ofheat.
It was 51 degrees, oh 51.
It was never like that.
Maybe I'll be there.
I think it's everyone how yourmakeup is melting and everything
.
Yeah, it's the global warmingor I don't know, but it's.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's crazy like I don't know it's different with
here, so hard, by the way, Icome here.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It's, oh god, it's hot here, but it's always the
same weather, you know.
So it's always ranging between,let's say, 25 to 32, okay, so
it's okay, you get used to it.
You know, my friend I don'tthink you met him, my friend
Scott when he just first came toThailand first time he was
sweating all the time, for sure,but after a month or a month
(02:03):
and a half here you'll get usedto it.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We are not sweating as much as oh yeah, because so
that's mean he have some moreexperience and maybe it's be no
more for him.
Yeah, it's become normal.
Why?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
exactly, yeah, also you, you know, now you start
drinking more water, so yourbody is staying cool, cool all
the time.
You maybe you change theclothes to something more
comfortable or more light soyou're not sweating as much, but
it's also your body justtelling you hey, okay, we're
fine with that.
You're enjoying yourself inthailand.
We will let you enjoy it.
Yes, I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So I met you first time, actually not that long ago
yeah, just a few days ago from69 Bar in Sayapum, which by the
way, lately became one of mygo-to bars.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Almost every day I go there Because I really like the
environment.
It's very relaxed over there,you know.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So actually I just came back.
This time I stayed there for afew days either, but uh, yes,
please can you tell me how aboutyou?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
no more yeah, I like it because it's relaxed.
It's not too much hustle, nomuch.
No one pushing you too much fordrinks.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You know also, sometime when I need to do some
editing, they let me work fromthere, of course, because
because they are perfect, youknow, girl, and they work there
with a lot of experience.
I really respect them that theyhave.
So really, really enjoy withyour time.
Yes, and of course, the first,from we meet, we talk face to
(03:38):
face about I provide you whatyou like to do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you havework in that night.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, no, this is a routine.
So every time, because I wantto explain to the people that
never been here.
Okay, so whenever someone go toa bar right one time, let's say
I'm a new customer I go to thebar, I walk in, what you tell me
?
I will say no, no, not.
I will say just, i'm'm here.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I'm welcome, thank you and ask you how is your
beautiful day?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
My day is okay.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, thank you.
That's with my opinion, to askthe customer, but I would have
different with anyone.
Just my idea.
I cannot.
I want to play with you.
Oh, you want to?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
play with me?
We play.
I'm a customer.
Okay, I walk into the bar.
We play.
I'm a customer.
Okay, I walk into the bar.
You see me.
I sit in a table.
You come to me.
What's going on?
First, you greet me.
Hello, how are you?
Yes, of course Go on.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Okay, Wait a minute.
I gotta say so to make youinteresting.
In May I will ask, of course,everything about you and of
course I gotta say, please can Ihave one thing and see the joy?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
but you're not offering me drink yet.
Oh, I need to offer me drinkfirst.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So okay, my, what you like to drink?
Honey, I would like to drinkvodka.
Shrebs for now please, oh okay,I will come back in a minute
just a moment, please.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, you walk fast.
You bring me the drink back, ohsure yeah, and I come back with
that thing.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I got to ask you that you interesting someone here.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, I like you, yeah, yeah, yeah, you look very
beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You are handsome and sweet like that that's why you
take me here.
Thank you you are.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate it.
I love to give a good serviceto customer or something like
that.
I saw them, that they startwith a beautiful morning there
and you know people looking forgoodness you could have.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So you make sure they had a good day that you had
Like.
I know many times that I go toa bar.
The second or the thirdquestion they ask you is have
you eat already?
Because they want to make sureyou already had food right.
So the ladies normally come andask me you eat rice already.
And then I say yeah, yeah, Ieat.
And then they ask if I want adrink, if I can buy them a drink
(05:59):
, of course, it's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, it's a good, but yeah, but I ask for me that
it depends that uh who said, ifshe have uh enough experience or
good english, she can give youuh another uh, you think it will
be more, a better experience?
Yeah, I think experience isreally more important for lady.
Feel like me.
So, uh, just so you know, I Inever studying before by my
(06:27):
english.
I like uh listening and come tospeaking.
I like you yourself, thought youtaught yourself everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that'sme, because I, hopefully, when I
have dealing with customer andof course I I don't really know
about our next lesson of anotherone, but I try to explain
myself how to be here and servewith our customer and of course
(06:50):
I think, hopefully we alwaysenjoy and beautiful time with us
.
Okay, something like that.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So I can feel.
So I don't know much about you,okay, but I can feel that you
do have a lot of experienceworking in Pattaya in general.
So have you worked bars before?
Yes yes, how many bars youworked before?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I think I have salary first time from Soy 7, land of
Smile Bar.
Okay, yes, there is a reallygood bar for me, because that
time I don't know how to speakEnglish and welcome customers.
Okay, I think that time I startwith my salary 2,500 baht with
free room.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Okay, and of course that's my room and you get
drinks.
Yes, yeah, drink commission.
30 baht.
30 baht for every drink.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yes, okay, and after that I'm more, get experience,
can more speak English.
I change for the 69 bar placeBefore they have their own one
from the Soi Made in Thailand.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, soi Mith Mith Night, it's called.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, yeah, something like that.
Okay, so, yeah, but this onethey say the new 69.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
The new 69.
Yes, I just been there for twoweeks and the time you see, yeah
, yeah, okay, yes, I've justbeen there for two weeks and the
time you see, yeah, yeah, okay,and I guess also on your free
time, you're doing somefreelancing also, because most
of the working girls andladyboys in Pattaya also, like
they use apps like Thai Friendlyor Tinder or Grindr or whatever
(08:21):
to find customers.
You think, like, how long doyou already stay in Pattaya Not
this time, I mean in general,almost 10.
Almost 10 years, yes, okay.
And do you think, like thewhole thing with the apps and
the I mean Thai-friendly Grindr,tinder you think it's changed
the whole freelance thing?
(08:42):
Friendly, grindr, tinder youthink it's changed the whole
freelance thing?
Because I remember, if we look10 years ago, I remember many
people are just at the night andladies and ladyboys just stand
in the beach hall and this ishow they look customer.
But now you can just sit home,go on the apps, look for
customers.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You don't even have to sweat yourself.
Yeah, we have to change withthat situation, because I think
now about the online or anythingmuch better than uh you prefer
it.
Yes, I, I prefer it.
Okay, yes, so uh, ask, for meit's nothing different.
90, if you stay on the beatload.
(09:21):
You are.
See, face to face, you are bycompetition or whatever.
Yeah, of course you must.
90%, they take you 90%.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, you think if you go to the bridge road 90%
you get customer.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, and be sure to take hand by hand because we
work together.
But come back to the onlinefrom the Thai family or tinder
or whatever you say uh, how, howdo you know this?
This?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
you can call video, you can do video call.
You can ask for pictures, likeyou can ask even hey, can you
show me a picture without makeupor with make you?
You know also some people whichI think it's not nice, but will
ask uh, show me a pussy, orshow me your cock, or show me
your teeth, it doesn't matter.
(10:12):
But there is options there tofind maybe something that is
more suitable for you I agreewith you.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
But someone like we know people different need and
different opinion like differentyeah.
So uh, after me that somereason customer don't ask, but
80 they ask for listen.
You say really?
Yeah, normally they ask forpictures and stuff like this
yeah, yeah, they start like thatand show me naked or whatever
they want to see.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
But maybe then they just fuck off.
They not want you, not becauseyou are not good, because they
only wanted the pictures.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yes, of course.
That's why I say in B-Lost muchbetter.
Yeah, so sometimes they lie.
I have this lesson, that thisstory.
Of course I'm a little bitupset, but I move on from that,
about that they let me go to ahotel right, explain from the
beginning.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So you stay in the beach hold.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
No, we stay online.
Oh, okay, chat online together,hi-friendly or whatever.
Yeah, I come from Thai, philly,come to Lai, we chat each other
.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I just tell for the listeners Lai is a very common
chatting app.
It's like WhatsApp, but for theAsian countries.
I think it's not only theAsians, but it's very popular
over here.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, yeah, they do Like.
They invite you to visit themin the hotel.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So the customer tell you hey, I like you, can you
come to my hotel?
Yes, okay, what time was that?
Night time, daytime.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It doesn't matter, it depends when you're not lazy.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
They message will come to you, that's true, it
depends.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
When you're not lazy, the message will come to you.
That's true.
So after me, sometimes they lieLike you went to hotel or room
number, everything is like that.
There is no one there.
Yeah, like a bullshit at all.
Why do they want to do that?
Just to play with you?
I want to ask them either, butthey disappear already.
(12:03):
I can't ask anyone, yeah, butlike I know, I remember.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Let's say, if I go Thai friendly, which I sometimes
do, and let's say I want tomeet someone, Normally they say
hey, can you send me yourlocation?
Yes, to make sure I'm reallyhere.
Yes, I am.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I do that.
Either.
You also ask for location?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, yeah, but everything is.
That's why I tell you from thebeginning everything really be
perfect.
Like he make you trust you,like make you trust he there and
exactly I will meet he there,okay, but when you arrive there,
it's empty, nobody.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay, but I'm sure you also had like good
experiences.
Yeah, I'm sure sometimes peopletell you meet you in time,
friendly, and say, hey, listen,actually I don't want us to fuck
, can we go to a dinner or canwe have some time to some fun
together.
I think it's also happened liketo have like good experience
like that yeah, this storyhappened to me with my ex-boy
(13:01):
ex-boyfriend yeah, yeahboyfriend, yeah, oh yeah, we've met
before.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, that's a very special time because how we meet
Wait, I want to know.
Okay, we meet in Tinder, inTinder, yeah, and we have a
conversation to vote, I agree bythe way.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Conversation, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Conversation was like good, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
No problem, I keep it better.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
So he an appointment with me to meet in the Starbucks
from Central Pattaya, centralPattaya, yes, so I went there in
the time, yeah, and of coursehe.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
So he not ask you to go to the room or something
about the sex?
He just want to meet you.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Just dinner.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Just dinner and have a few drink.
Yeah, he didn't agree with meto to go to bed with me, but uh,
yeah, like a feeling, like me,I I'm more in, like a what does
mean with my look and my energyand with my confidence myself to
make him interesting to take me.
(14:06):
That that's your duty.
You could do like how to makethe customer interesting in you.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, of course you can say agree with everything
from appointment, yeah, before,beforehand, yeah, okay, and
after faith to faith, I think I,yeah, yeah so you meet him in a
date and you went out for adate and few drinks and it was
nice, and then you just keep onmeeting for a few days and then
you became boyfriend, girlfrienduh no, we try to learn each
(14:34):
other for a while, for a whileyes, okay, like he was, but he
was still here or he went backhome already he back home, okay,
so I stayed with him from thelast two days he was here.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I think he can sell this show, so, yeah, and after
that I followed him to Bangkok.
We have a good story In Bangkok.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, how long have you been together?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
We've been together in Pattaya six months.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
No, I mean the relationship Almost two years,
two years yes.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And you're still together.
Six months he's here, sixmonths he goes.
Yes, he has to work because Ilove money, money, money.
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Okay and I respectfully ask.
So you are kind of stilltogether, but he knows, when
he's not here you're still goingwith customers and go to 60, go
walk the bars or something, orit's kind of in the middle, All
right.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So this thing we're coming because you have to ask
yourself, or both of you, firsthow much do you trust each other
?
Okay, I am an honest person andI try to keep do everything.
This.
My word was saying yeah, so Ithink him either.
So for me, you open about this.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yes, you talk about this and he know like, okay,
sometime, because you need money, as you said.
Yeah, you need to make providefor yourself.
You have to take care ofyourself and your family, I
guess also, so you still need tobe working.
This means walking the bar, getdrinks maybe, I don't know
sometimes going with customersokay.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
So who want to be my long relationship?
I have to give them my, my, myopinion and my offer.
They agree with me or not.
So I call boyfriend because hehave to, uh, support me, be my
sponsor or stay by my sidealready, so he, you mean he have
to send you some money.
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah like, uh,how much for man.
(16:34):
Like uh, okay, can you staywith.
They are waiting for me, I giveyou this, this.
They're gonna have pen for bothof them.
Yeah, and after that.
Yeah, everything is cool.
Beautiful, me never fight whenwe stay far away, but me fight
when we see fit, of course.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yes, it's always like that that the human always
jealous it's not only jealous, Ithink also sometime, especially
when people stay apart for along time when you come together
, then you see the good stuff,but also you start to see the
bad stuff and sometime, like noteveryone is very like um tuned
to each other.
You know, sometimes it's okayto have some fights.
(17:13):
It's even good, because you cantake out aggression, you can
take out bad feelings and then,of course, you have makeup sex.
After the fight you can havebetter sex yeah, I agree with
you.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, yeah, I understand.
Yeah, so there are benefits forhaving fights.
Sometimes, yes, if you don'tfight in bed, it's not so
exciting, that's so.
Yeah, but sometimes it's tooover if the person move on for
that reason, but the person staythere.
Sometimes it's really difficult, difficult for us to understand
.
Like, okay, now we have meteach other and after that we
(17:50):
went to bed together.
We forget what the reason inthe past, something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, but again, here comes the thing of a good
conversation.
So when you stay with someone,for example, when I used to stay
with my ex my ex is a Thai ladywe used to be together for
eight years when we had fightfor me it was very difficult to
(18:14):
go to sleep before we fix theproblems.
So sometimes we even sit andtalk two, three hours to make
sure we both find a solution.
It can be hard, but after youfeel much better because you
know, okay, I express myself, Itell my partner, okay, what I
feel, what I like, what I don'tlike.
Okay, she tell me that back andhopefully we can move on.
(18:37):
You know, yeah, the problem, asyou said, sometimes people
start fighting and then say,okay, okay, okay, we not fight,
but they not fix the problem.
Yeah, then they have sex or not, it doesn't matter.
The next day they wake up andthey forget oh, so jealous, both
of you now.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So yes, it's really difficult to see someone like
that like uh, you have uh thatlisten with her.
Yeah, but we still.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
But now we are still ex, you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Eventually we separated, but whatever the time
your part together is abeautiful.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, of course I remember the good things.
Yeah, yes, I remember the badthings also Difficult to find
person like that, I think.
Okay, I will tell you somethingthat I told many times.
Too many people I meet inPattaya, yeah, yeah, sometimes
when you meet a bar girl or alady boy, it doesn't matter.
(19:31):
Yes, I'm not talking only aboutgirls or lady boys, I'm talking
about people here in Pattaya.
Most of them are working girls,most of them have.
They are drinking a lot ofalcohol in a daily base.
Some of them are doing drugsand also they are normally a
very big age gap.
So sometimes, let's say, a ladyor lady boy that is 22 or 23,
(19:55):
her boyfriend will be 50 yearsold.
What is the connection overthere?
Come on, it's not possible tohave something in common.
She's a baby compared to you.
You know, she likes twodifferent shows, she likes
different music, she likeseverything different and you,
you are the old guy, right?
And also there is another thing.
There is the culturaldifference.
(20:16):
So the asians are verydifferent from the westerns in
their culture, in the respect,in the way they talk, the way
they treat each other.
It's something that many couplesdon't don't understand, and
sometimes people go into arelationship when it's something
that many couples don't don'tunderstand and sometimes people
go into a relationship when it'snot not fitting.
Um, for example I give you lastexample before you can my ex.
(20:39):
She was only one year youngerthan me, okay, so the age was
always this, almost the same.
We had many things in common,okay, right, yeah, she had a
drinking problem and I had myown problems, but it's okay
because we were, as I said, thesame age, the same interest, so
we can grow up together.
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand that, but I have the
experience like that either.
But Pattaya, just say hello,welcome to Pattaya.
They know exactly what theywant in themselves already.
What do you mean?
You?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
think all the guys come here only for sex.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Don't mean that at all, but Most of them yes, most
of them they're looking for it.
They didn't really with longrelationship with you or
something.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
What is that so different with the regular
dating scene, I mean back home?
Let's say, I want to meetsomeone, I go on Tinder or any
other app I have, and we meet,we go date, but of course I want
to fuck her or she wants tofuck me, it doesn't matter, the
sex is always there.
The thing is that you have tothink like, like yeah, here men
(21:53):
are going with more ladies orladyboys because they have more
options.
Sure, but if you like someone,you like someone.
You know, when you have this,this connection, this click,
okay, you know you're gettingconnected with someone, then
it's, it can be real yet can be,but I have to to come back on
my uh real time that I this ison duty.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
You pain if you do that because and you get made,
you get your right.
You, you lot, a lot of customerif you try to have that inside
your mind yeah, I'm talking,yeah, I understand.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm not talking from the perspective of the working
girls.
I'm talking of the Westerns.
Yeah, the Westerns.
I think they do look for thatreal deep connection, some of
them.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I have to apologize for you deeply.
I never been there situation.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Really Never.
Someone come to you and tellyou Koi, like after two few
times you meet Koi.
Listen, I really like you.
What can we do so we can betogether?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I have a lot of guys give me the offer like that and
the first answer for me that Isay I apologize, I have duty to
do so.
People come to Pattaya toholiday.
They are journey, whatever,they come for fun because they
holiday.
You have to exactly know whatthey want.
(23:11):
So I try before put my feeling,put my heart yes, come to be my
man, I will stay by your side,or whatever it's pain and wake
your time.
You get nothing much than likeyou'll be free, okay, yeah
that's me.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So you're money money oriented.
You're thinking, okay, I don'twant to waste my time, I better
get like more customers thanregular customers, because I'm
here to make money.
Of course, no one want to workas I'm sorry for the the words
I'm going to use, but as aprostitute or a bar girl.
No one's dream to work that.
(23:49):
They work that because theyneed the money.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah yeah, like, lady need money, a man need a lady.
Right, If we agree each otherwhat appointment we prefer to
ask.
Yeah, like, okay, you give me,uh, you transfer me slowly, like
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this, I'll be your girl.
Like, uh, one by one, you giveme, I give you, but I don't
really have like that, I haveonly my own experience.
Be, be alone.
I love to spend time by alone.
I I try twice time with twoex-boys and I compete, always
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thinking about past story we ushave before.
I always say just waste my time, because if you need to really
want long relationship or needsomeone stay by your side, just
get out for this village.
Pattaya is never enough foranyone.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
You know I have two questions for you.
I will start with the first one.
I had some bad experience theother day.
So there was someone talkingwith me on Thai Friendly and she
want to meet, and I tell herlisten right now, like I don't
want because I don't have muchmoney.
I wait for my salary andwhatever.
(25:14):
It doesn't matter.
I'm so sorry, so we cannot meetright now.
I don't want to waste your time, I don't want you, so you have
to wait.
When I will have the money, wecan meet.
Then she said to me okay, youdon't have to pay.
Then she said to me okay, youdon't have to pay, we can just
go eat something.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I said okay, that's a good possibility, you sure you
want to go eat with me.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
So yeah.
So she said yeah.
So then we go to somerestaurant.
We had dinner together, yeah.
And after dinner she say can Icome to your room?
I say, listen, I told youbefore I don't want to waste
your time.
I, I don't want you to feelthat I'm not respecting you.
We can do that, but anothertime when I will have the money.
(25:55):
Okay, I like you, I want tomeet you when I'm able to afford
that, right, all right.
Then she said okay, she wenthome and then she started
sending me message.
Oh, you are a fucking cheapchild.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
To be immune.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Okay, you not even pay me for the time when I sit
with you, eat with you, and andthen I say, wait, I asked you
before.
Okay, I asked you before.
I told you I don't have.
You want to eat with me?
It's fine, I take you to a nicerestaurant.
We have fun together, we talk,I pay for the food, right?
Yeah, I told you before that Iprefer not meeting you because I
don't have.
You cannot angry me now foryour waste of time.
(26:32):
Yeah, you agree, yeah, yeah,yeah, right.
But then she say, no, I, I, Inot understand what you say
because I'm not good English.
I say, come on, don't bullshit.
Okay, I don't like this kind ofgames, you know.
If she tells me, listen, youwant to take me to a dinner, you
have to pay for my time, I willsay okay, I'm sorry, so I
cannot take you to dinner.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, so this one experience, I be true before the
way I pass.
So yeah, before I be like her,I get mad because I say this guy
reject on me, he really fuckedoff or not nice to me or he
bullshit.
I forget that in my mind fromthe beginning.
I agree with the appointmentand I prefer him to go to dinner
(27:15):
.
So that's why I try to say thatthe lady boy is a good much
like more high ego, likesomething like that.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, but ego is always a problem with everyone.
Everyone have their own ego andit's very easy to get mad,
especially when now it's the lowseason and it's very hard to
make money now yeah, come backto your story.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
See, she don't.
She don't upset that.
Uh, you, you don't pay her oranything to her.
She upset that.
She think you reject her.
You think that, yeah, yeah, allladyboy, because ladyboy, what,
what?
What ladyboy looking for, ifthey agree with your appointment
, like that.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
By the way, who tell you it was a ladyboy?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I never say it was a ladyboy uh, excuse me, sir, you
sit on my bar every night, so,yeah, what doesn't matter.
Yeah, this is my opinion.
If I mistake, apologize aboutthat.
But come back to to that if youtake her, she don't mind,
because that time she needs sick.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I don't think so because I I maybe you right.
I tell you what I think I thinkin her mind she said okay, he
take me to dinner.
If I convince to fuck, thenmaybe later he have to pay me
money, not now, but he get, so Iget that money for sure.
I think maybe this is what shethink.
I don't know if it's about thereject or not, because you know
(28:41):
what you might be right.
It's your fault, it's my fault.
I'm the bad man.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
It's your fault.
You could ask your in yourconcern first oh, did she speak
the truth?
She really want some reasonlike that just for dinner and
have sex.
Because it's your fault, youdon't think carefully enough.
Okay, maybe, yeah, yeah, Maybeyou are, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It's okay, I need the input.
That's why I asked you.
So you think, basically what Ishould have done is have the
dinner with her, then take herto my room, do whatever we do in
the room and then not pay herBecause she agrees.
But we're not talking about thesex, we're talking about the
dinner.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
We're talking about the dinner, then we could have
early dinner.
If she tried to blame you later, when she arrived her room and
she tried to reply thousandstory, come to you like hey,
you're a bad bitch, or whathouse is like that.
It's not your fault, it's herproblem, it's not your problem,
it's not my problem.
It's now okay because uh I.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I think I was very respectful.
Yeah, you know, when I tellingher the whole truth and I told
her listen, I cannot right now.
I don't want to make you feelnot wanted.
I don't want you to feel likeyou not appreciated for your
time.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
My sweetie, not too far from you, behind you, take
her, try to give her offer andsee if she will blame you or not
.
So actually for me, I be thatway for a long time, a couple of
years it's Pattaya.
I don't have much opinion foranother allow here, because
people, they have differentthings and different needs.
(30:20):
You know, like, ask for me, Ido, but I get nothing left.
I still same.
I think for seven years.
I get nothing left.
I still same.
I think for seven year I getmade of customer.
Customer don't keep me doing.
Customer don't give me whatexactly I want.
I blame them.
I still get angry.
Yeah, and I just change forthis person for a year ago.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
So you change a bit your personality?
Yeah, because you want to behappy or because you think you
will make more money if youactually stop be so angry I need
, uh, I need a friend, I need ahonest human behind.
You feel distance, you feelthat maybe people are scared
(31:05):
about you because how you acted.
Yeah, I, I.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Okay, that's interesting I think that you
went to my bar.
I serve with you, or my friendserve with you, ask for me.
People stay.
Oh, she, she do like this is sosweet, she serve with pity.
Nice, she are lovely, she needto uh fuck or anything.
But don't think that for me,because I give you like that, I
hopefully I will serve with yougood and I give you a good net
(31:31):
back to you.
People looking for a good net,people looking for smile.
So so, before I upset and Iwake, my time for many years I
think it's enough.
So now just my, what is yourhappier?
I am happy, happy and, ofcourse, a little bit exciting.
But okay.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
And the second question I wanted to ask you
before because you said thatright now, like you don't, you
try to focus about making money,making money, making money.
How can you control your heart?
What will happen if you meetsomeone handsome like me and you
fall in love?
Oh no, really, with a jokeaside, if you meet someone that
you like, really me, so okay.
(32:14):
Okay, if you meet someone thatyou really like, even maybe just
buy you a few drinks andwhatever, or even if you go with
him sometimes and he pay foryou, of course.
But you start to have feelingwhat you do?
You block your heart, you tryto block your heart and say, oh,
I don't need this, I need tofocus on myself.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Or you just say you call me by now, or or before.
I let's say now, now for me.
I, I know, have that feelingyou cannot fall in love anymore
yes, I just, I just protectmyself that I have to be like I
know exactly what I do.
Now the thing I do is duty.
(32:53):
It's duty.
They come holiday, they payyour drink, they pay your food.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That means they pay, but not everyone come here
holiday.
Have many people that live herealso.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But I think I own now .
I didn't have time like a younglady boy because I think money.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
You know that old.
You know that old.
Come on, you just like to saythat you know that old.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Really appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
So up for me to want that feeling.
Of course half I'm a human.
I have that feeling.
To be honest, I have thatfeeling.
Of course I have a dream aboutthat, but not too far.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Everything has limits you have to forget the way you
be and you don't scared youmaybe lose opportunity.
So what I mean?
Some of the guys I'm surereally like you and some of the
guys you maybe have a very goodlife with them if you choose to
open your heart.
You know you don't have thisfeeling.
(33:52):
Oh man, maybe I'm losing mychance to be very happy with
someone that I like.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I've been looking for it, but now I respect myself
first.
I want to heal myself muchbetter.
I want to heal myself muchbetter because this time I have
to think now you want to shootto the way to be an old lady boy
with nothing left, or you wantto shoot to be an old lady boy
with extra money?
Okay, yet the time is included.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
So for you in your future you see just these two
options, so you don't believe inlove here anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I don't say that I don't believe it's difficult.
It has, but really difficultfor me.
I think that when you have along relationship with me, I
have a good actor, goodexperience.
I have many things to changefor you because I exactly know
(34:54):
inside me what I want.
I pain when I do that toanother one, to do self-fit like
that.
That's why I change myself tobe uh, I am what I am, like
something like that let me getit right.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
So if you do have a guy that before I'm not saying
yeah, guy that you know thatinterested, interested in you,
and you think, okay, maybe I canget something out of it, oh
sure, so you play you.
You change the mask all thetime, yeah, just to make him
feel, sometimes feel bad,sometimes feel good.
Of course you keep him oncontrol yeah that, that, that's
(35:22):
ib that's why I feel enough.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yet I feel pain.
When I do that.
I I really ask myself a coupletimes that's this is exactly
what you want to do?
You're hurting someone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wake themup.
I eat the money.
I hate them.
You hate them.
Yeah, I saw it, because any guyI try to long relationship,
(35:44):
they cry for me, not I cry forthem.
Okay, yes, I apologize thatwhen you be long relationship
with me, you thinking about loveand looking for my heart and
stay beside of you.
I'm looking slowly how much hecan give me.
I gotta have iPhone.
(36:06):
I gotta have a goal.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I gotta be, you will accomplish your goals.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yes, by the way, I want to be high-cut without no
working because he's so fit.
Okay, that's me before.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I love your honesty.
I think it's very good thatyou're feeling comfortable to
talk about your past feelingsand past history.
I know you are a changed personnow.
What will you do now in thissituation?
You will just tell him sorry, Idon't want to hurt you, I don't
want to waste your time, I'mnot ready for relationship.
Or would you say something likesorry for cutting you, but like
(36:42):
listen, we can try, but Icannot promise you anything.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I have this lesson and many, many other like that,
but I I love actor.
I don't love the saying, butdifferent because people, people
say when they spend time withyou, I like you, I need you, I I
love you, but but later the actis different, because the
(37:10):
feeling change sometimes, youknow.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Sometimes, when you stay with someone for a long
time, sometimes you even lovethem more.
But sometimes the love can comedown if you are not keeping to
try to love each other.
You know if you are gettingcomfortable too much with
someone or if sometimes you losethe romantic behind the
relationship.
You know it's very importantonce in a while even if you stay
(37:34):
together with someone threeyears, same house Once in a
while go on a date together,dress nice, you know, take some,
go somewhere special, spend thetime together, not talking
about work, not talking, justtalking about how much you
appreciate each other.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I explain this with my profile, facebook.
I have like 4,000 friends there.
Okay, so I always say peopleconfident by themselves, people
they believe themselves they arebetter than anyone and people
they always that they never doneanything wrong.
(38:09):
Same the guy want to come to me.
When the beginning they need methey never saw from the end was
it come to us.
So after me that when I'm readyto make love with someone, Make
love.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
You not mean sex, you mean like-.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, make love or in a relationship yes, okay so I
have two hand, I have two eye, Ihave my, my strength, I have
power.
Morning, wake up together, yeah, work together, separate work
together.
Evening, come back home,cooking together, shower
together, go to bed together.
Slowly come me, pay anythingtogether and save for a little
(38:50):
bit to to make a trip for acouple time of year.
Yeah, that's what I want.
I don't want to stay high cardwithout working.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yes, I'm looking for that person to to welcome me
give you not only the love, butalso to give you the opportunity
.
You mean, yes, the opportunityto be a better self, a better
you yeah, sometime, sometime I,what would you?
Walk.
If you have this opportunity,let's say you meet someone, he
really likes you and he haveenough money to afford anything.
(39:19):
He say koi, what would you wantto do?
What work you want to to?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
do my when that time is coming.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
The future will find that for you, yeah, but you
don't have any dream for this.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I don't even know that I hope for a future, but I
never dream of the future.
So if I love that person, Ialways want to do everything
better for him.
Okay, like you love me, youwant to give me everything the
best.
Yes, so I don't have a dreamerfor a future.
(39:51):
I can make, did make, did make,job like this, like this.
Sometime that's pan never exist.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You think, I think I understand you now.
So you wasted so much time thatright right now, even dreaming
sound like a waste of time foryou.
Dream for what better do?
Yes, really, so now we stay.
That's kind of I'm sorry to say, but it's a little bit sad to
hear that.
I tell you why.
I tell you why I'm not.
I'm not thinking you're doingsomething wrong.
(40:17):
I understand exactly whereyou're coming from, but I think
hope and dreams is havemotivation all the time.
If you lose the option to dreamand to hope, sometimes we just
become sad dream and hope yes,for the income.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
You say sad, you have to be spec from the beginning.
First.
You hope that the beginning you, you lead some.
You lose something, lose money,lose anything, no, depends how,
because you just hope and dream.
You lose nothing when you dreamand you hope you have to be
(41:00):
spec.
Of course, people upset peopledream, dream not come over.
People hope, hope doesn't exit.
People upset, upset people cry.
People say people not lucky.
No, you misunderstand from thebeginning.
The beginning.
You think about that.
You saw about that with yourmind.
You lot not think.
You didn't even I pay the papermoney for take the dream come
(41:23):
over.
No, you're just thinking.
So when they don't exit, youhave to understand.
By the way, okay, never mind,just a new, new choice.
That's me.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, that's why I tell you I understand what
you're saying, but you rememberwhen you were young you had so
much dreams about what you wantto do yes you know, I'm sure
none of them had to do anythingwith the pattern I do.
I None of them.
I'm sure it was beautifuldreams about doing something
that you love and making theworld better.
But then reality hits and youunderstand that the world is
(41:56):
hard.
But I don't know.
I don't want to lose my dreams,I don't want to lose the hope
that someday everything will bebetter.
Maybe you say, maybe now youhear this in your mind, you say,
oh, he's like a baby.
He still dream about this.
Yeah, I want to be baby.
I want to be able to hope forbetter world.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Oh sure, when you are young baby, you say I need to
grow up and be young and besuper full hour or something
like that.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I mean at my age also , I still want to feel better,
hopeful for the future, yeah,but yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
But hope doesn't exist.
You have to to to be spake, notupset.
That's why I say people hopeand dream.
Not wrong, you can, I believe,like, if you have hope, if you
have dream, just keep it on andone day your power will be shy,
okay, yes, but if your power notbe shy, the hope doesn't exist.
(42:55):
Respect, because don't be upset, just move on.
Take another listen, takeanother dream, because people,
when they have a dream, peoplewhen they have a hope, they
think of that listen in theirmind.
Why it's not me?
Why, why it's not?
Speaker 1 (43:10):
happened to me Something like that.
You're talking about somethingelse.
No, you're talking aboutjealousy.
You're talking about looking atsomeone else and say I want to
be like him.
I never say no, no, no, no,sorry, no, it's okay, I
understand what you're saying,but I think you are looking at
the wrong angle.
I'm not talking about seeingother people and say, oh, I want
(43:31):
to have this, I want to be likethis.
No, I'm saying, looking insideyourself and thinking what I
want to do.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I have no opinion for this.
Really part I deeply, butactually I inside of my
conscience.
You just want to make money no,I just make honestly and do it
with my honesty, okay, because I, I try to speak different with
you, that that, that, that or Ihave no any reason for people
(44:00):
allow behind it's me.
So I, I have only experiencelike me, like uh, of course we
have our own experiences, yeahlike uh, I want to be myself.
Are you yourself?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
now, yeah, I am, you are yourself.
You are not putting masksanymore.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
No.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Good, how was it to make that change Like it was
hard.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
It's hard, but you might learn, I already do.
Yeah, people love to sing, butpeople don't love to do it.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I'm a big believer.
I'm sorry.
I don't blame you.
I know you don't blame me, Iknow you mean in general, but
I'm a big believer in honesty.
I'm a big believer in showingmy true self to people.
Even I tell you more than that.
When I stay with, for example,my ex or with my family, before
it doesn't matter they alwaystell me Mike, you're too honest,
(44:58):
you tell everything aboutyourself all the time to all
people.
Why, why are you open so much?
I say because I open, becausethis is the only way I know.
I think, keeping secret andkeeping close to yourself all
the time, one will really opento you.
Yes, but when I meet someone, Idon't mind, tell my whole story
(45:18):
, my whole life story, honestly,without bullshit, without lying
, without making myself big orsmall or whatever.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Finally, I say finally, I really appreciate
that and I agree with you.
You're doing so when you talkto me, you are open with your
honesty and your experience.
Bypass the way you be.
Yeah, yes, because I reallywelcome to listen it and if
something I think it's work inthe life for next future, I will
(45:49):
keep it better to me.
I really open like that.
Yeah, that's why I I happy tobe myself.
I don't want to feel like that.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I think we're very similar in that point right now.
So we both come and just showwho we are really.
We don't try to be actors withanyone, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Like I am what I am.
You agree with me.
You walk this way.
You disagree, just separate.
It's really simple.
Okay, it's simple.
I'm sorry, no that's good.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
I know how easy it is .
But for some people it's noteasy because they feel very
vulnerable.
They are scared that someonewill hurt them if they will
really open to someone.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I've been hurt for a long time.
Everyone's been hurt.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I learned with that and nowI have my own child, my young
sister, young brother.
I want.
That's the big deal we have todo.
That's a good actor.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Wait, you have young sister, yeah, to take care.
Young brother, yeah, and whatmore.
On child yes, you have a child.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
I have a son, really, yes, how old?
Three years now.
Three years, yeah, and that'swhy I really more forgot about
my actor.
If you have a big dude, thiswill change your life.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yeah, this is why you decide to change, because you
have a son.
I am.
Can I ask you how you make?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
So this comes with my family.
So young brother, he's just 17years old, he go have a
girlfriend and make her pregnant.
Okay, yes, and they invite methat.
Oh, sita, what can I do?
Because my girlfriend like this, like this, and at that time
they're very young, yeah, theydon't know how to do, they need
(47:38):
to peel, do long way a bad thing, you understand.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
But I tell her that I say, okay, just hold on, don't
think that in hurry up.
Can you be, like I tell, withmy girlfriend for young butter?
I tell, I tell her that can yoube a patient for nine months?
I give you everything you want.
Just tell me I I keep you, butwhen you're born, that that
(48:06):
child is, is be powerful with meso this child is on your name
now.
Yes, really it's a powerful ofme Okay.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Like a.
You know I'm so in thegovernment.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
You are his.
No, no, no, no, not yet, butLike a I don't deem for Okay,
you are my son.
I am powerful.
You know.
I just want to have a life asmuch as I can.
It's that time.
But they listen everything fromme what my word was.
That's why I have to do myactor is really important.
I cannot do nonsense or stupidgirl cannot.
(48:41):
I am a lady boy, but I'm notdifferent with your feeling.
I'm not high or not down.
We are same.
We happy me, smile me, upset.
It's same.
No one is better than one.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Of course we are all human.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, that's why I try to.
I forget all along the reason Ihave boyfriend, girlfriend
customer.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Now you have to focus on your son.
Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Wow, that's so beautiful.
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate that.
No, really, because Iunderstand.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
I'm so proud of you also.
But it's beautiful thatsometime all we need is someone
else to take care in order tofix ourselves.
Sometime our life just getcrazy and crazy and then one day
we have responsibility and thenwe say, okay, we cannot be
crazy anymore.
We cannot.
We have to be good people tohelp someone else.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
This thing what is more important for you, your
soul or your inside?
Speaker 1 (49:44):
conscience.
I want you to explain more whatyou mean.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Like for me.
I come, I be honest with myconscience inside to show out,
not about my soul myself, okay,so you try to use your heart and
not your brain.
Yes, some, some reason likethat, because the, the soul,
change every second.
The thoughts, yeah, yes, butthe conscience never do anything
mistake.
The concern always come to betrue for you, but the source
make you change.
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
But I think sometimes , especially, it's for good
people, not the bad people.
Sometimes they read thesituation wrong.
They are too nice or they aretoo good or they help too much
because inside they feel, oh,it's good, but then someone take
advantage, someone use them.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
You know what I mean.
In the beginning, I upset withthat.
I'm not strong enough for thatreason, but now it's never mind.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Now, even if someone use you, you okay.
If someone tell you I don'tknow whatever, koi, I need your
help something.
But when you ask help back,they never help you.
You not feel?
Oh, I do mistake.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
No, before I upset.
Now it's no, it's really normalfor me now.
It's like they call for help.
I help them, yeah.
So when I help them, I askmyself already exactly you want
to do that.
If one day you have nothingleft, you need help, you need
them come to stay by your sideand help you back and daily
(51:20):
check you or you didn't pay, Iask myself, no, no, no, because
not that.
Listen, I want to help them tohave a good dream to a next
future.
You do it selfishly.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
So you're not doing it in order to make yourself
feel good.
You just want to help someonewithout anything I can, I try,
you know many, many, many, manypeople in all religions of the
world, but especially in thebuddhist religion.
Years of learning to get towhere you are.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
You're basically now a buddhist you try, I believe,
on my buddha, yeah, but you do.
You not only believe, you doalso I, I, I try my best and I
hope I, I, I do well yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
So we have only three minutes left, okay for this
episode.
So I will do the closing bit,okay.
So first of all I want to thankyou very much.
It was so much pleasure totalking with you and I know
before you worried we talked toomuch about sex and this, but
you see, just normalconversation yeah, yeah, this be
(52:25):
me this is what I like and Ireally want to thank you for
coming.
I think you did an amazing job.
I hope, hope, you had fun.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Okay, so after me I'm so happy and exciting and get
some more new experience and Ireally thank you really much and
appreciate that to be here andyou're so sweet.
And let me explain my privacyto you for listening.
I would like also, if you havehave some time, you can join us
(52:56):
in other episodes oh, with mypager, yeah, and the the last
thing I gonna say, that I willcome to put our heart and
feeling with that.
I just want to say, guy, all ofyou, not doesn't matter who you
are or how you be, you just bethe word that if you do good,
(53:17):
good thing will come back to you, karma, that's all.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
We are talking about fucking karma.
Yes, and there is anything elseyou want to say to the
listeners.
Maybe you want them to followyour social media?
Oh, sure.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
So about social media , I just start from the
beginning here again, because Ijust come over for two weeks ago
, so I really want to saywelcome to you guys to visit me
in the 69 bar from Soy Pot Homeyeah, the new 69 bar.
I be there every night and Ihope I can have a good service
for all of you there.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
That's beautiful and I will make sure, guys, if you
are interested in being herfriends on social media or even
talking with her, I will add herlinks down in the comments so
you can find her there, Thankyou.
And, of course and I want tothank you for listening Thank
you for the love and the supportthat we get for you.
If you can again like andsubscribe, it does a lot.
(54:19):
You don't believe how much ithelps.
And if you want to help us alsoproviding this beautiful studio
here in Fox 3 studio in Pattaya, just go to our Patreon, check
it out.
There are many cool thingsthere.
And thank you, guys.
See you next time.
Bye, bye, thank you.
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