September 12, 2025 • 59 mins
Step into Pattaya’s after-dark world with John “The Legend” — a 60-year-old expat whose name echoes across the city’s bars, bedrooms, and beyond. Known for his outrageous stamina with both ladies and ladyboys, John has built a reputation that every newcomer secretly wants to live up to.
But this isn’t just wild sex stories (though there are plenty). We break down the real cost of living in Pattaya: from John’s 113,000-baht condo, to dirt-cheap village houses, to the shocking electricity bills that can triple your expenses overnight.
We also tackle Thailand’s tightening visa rules — including the brutal 800,000-baht requirement — and why many retirees are eyeing Vietnam as their next escape.
And of course, no trip to Pattaya is complete without a deep dive into the bar scene:
💋 The true economics of lady drinks
🎲 Bar games that break the ice (and your wallet)
🍻 How to stretch your baht while still living like a king
This episode is packed with laughs, raw confessions, and insider hacks you won’t hear anywhere else. If you’ve ever wondered what really keeps men coming back to Pattaya year after year — this is the uncensored truth.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike and Ellie and we havea guy that you heard his voice.
You never seen him, but we haveJohn the legend here.
Hello, john, hello, good to dowith Michelle.
(00:30):
Have you seen that?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh, I want that episode.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I didn't know you were going to do a drunk episode
.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We drank, so it was at least one liter of vodka,
okay, and at the end of theepisodeott was like sleeping,
drunk, puking on in the toilet.
Oh, like he was laying downlike puking and me and michelle,
I saw the three musketeers yeah, the three musketeers, and then
and then we just covered himwith the towel, give him fan and
(01:00):
then me and michelle just wentout.
He stayed in michelle room,really, yeah, but it was a great
episode.
Yeah, this time not like lasttime, which last time me and
john we I don't know if youheard that episode, but we did a
very serious episode.
We will not get into that, but,guys, if you want to hear that
(01:20):
episode it's called mini'slegacy, so we would love you to
give it a listen.
It's very emotional, very rawand I think it's one of the best
, uh, the best recording I everhad.
It was very good.
We did it with pimp last time.
Oh, okay, yeah, so this timeyeah, you should, but this time
(01:41):
me and john said okay, no, wewant to have fun, we don't want
to be as emotional and crying.
Everyone was crying lastepisode, so this one will be a
bit different okay, yeah sofirst, john, how, how are you
doing?
We are meeting each other um ohgood, thank you.
Yeah, yeah, oh good we, you knowwe had john, will confirm that
(02:02):
so few.
I think it was two weeks ago.
We met john and he just it wasme, scott, right, yeah, and
michelle, and we met john andjohn was like, yeah, scott's
birthday, yeah, it was onscott's birthday, scott's
birthday when he just come backit's the same day he come back
from england after three weeks.
(02:23):
So he was like ready to go, youknow, and we had like a bar call
and we ended up in Flex, firstBoho, then Flex seven or eight
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, it was daylight and the sun was up.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So we were very drunk , but it was very good.
Did you enjoy Flex?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Because it's very different from what we normally
go for, yeah, first time, firsttime in boho, first time in flex
which one was like better foryou flex, flex, because a little
bit, a little bit, and themusic you know, yeah, good.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So boho, we should go .
We spoke about it before.
It's a very small club and theyplay mostly EDM.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It is good they have a few good DJs over there.
We know two of them.
One of them will probably be onour podcast sometime this month
.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, the problem is, when you can't go, you can't
call me.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Because we never know when we go.
I'm telling you the truth, it'sstarting out like that.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I tell you, let's go.
So, for example, scott reallyangry me about that, because
sometimes we say I just call himlike six in the evening, scott,
I'm a bit hungry, you want tograb some food?
He say yeah, yeah, yeah, let'sgo get some food.
And we had, we just want to eatsomething.
And we say no drinking today.
And we agree no drinking today.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Then we found ourselves eight in the morning
in that situation like okay,let's just grab a dinner, no
drinking, but then end up likeuntil the morning I.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I find unplanned nights are the best nights, I
agree, like the other night whenI met you in 69.
Last time we went out, you know, two nights ago, yeah, yeah,
yeah, I'd been out to Jong Tian,to a bar, come back three times
.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
But you came already I went to Cindy's.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
No, he could, cindy.
No, peachy Peachy Lee.
You've been to Peachy Lee,peachy KRU or KRU.
My friend, his girlfriend, wenthome.
I said, oh, I'll go around toWhiskey Lounge, walking past 69,
one of the girls said said, oh,your friends are in here.
(04:46):
I walk in Mike Scott andMichelle oh.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
The whole gang.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And that was it Until Crazy night.
Five, I think, five in themorning, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So we went to To Pitchy again.
He'd just been to Pitchy, butwe went there again.
And after that we went toCindy's Secret.
Cindy's Secret is a new kind ofa new bar ladyboy bar in
Pattaya.
They have oh, I don't know forhow many years they have another
bar in Bangkok, very famous one.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What's the name?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Cindy's Secret.
The reason it's called Cindy'sSecret?
Because in Bangkok it's in asmall alley.
No one knows where is that?
You know, it's like a secret,and here also they did the same.
So they choose a very smallalley in order to keep the main
theme no one will go there Notour main soy bokeh.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's just off, yeah, but it's an alley that no one go
there.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I see.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Where the rock?
Is it a rock station?
Yeah, a rock factory, Rockfactory.
On the corner you turn and doyou know where?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, it's exactly in front of the Buddha statue the
elephant, not Buddha theelephant statue that everyone
stop and pray in Soi Bokau, nearSoi Hani.
So you just turn right and it'sthere.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I like the idea of like a secret bar, hiding bar.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
It's actually really good because, especially with
the ladyboy community, some guysare kind of shy about that.
So, oh, I will not go in themain main areas.
So then they go to, yeah youknow, to the secret alleys, to
the secret places, but it'sreally nice and, like the bar
(06:23):
close the tree, they just shutthe doors, close the curtains,
turn off the music closet 3 pm 3am, but we stayed until 5
because they know, okay, we havelike, yeah, but it's very nice.
Of course, we had a few drinks,a lot of pool, we played a lot
(06:44):
of pool.
Oh, they have pool too yes, oneof the best pool tables
actually here, like usually theladyboy bars.
I don't know why they have shitpool tables, like delirious,
for example, like they are notgood pool tables.
They are very old and likebumpy, you know, and in there
and 69 they have like new tables, very good ones, yeah okay but
(07:05):
we've been hustled, but by thatyoung lady boy at the end.
Do you remember that?
Yeah, so we played a lot ofpool and, yeah, I was playing
like shit at the beginning, atthe beginning, and then I got,
like you know, I got somepractice, I got ready, I got hot
, and then I I beat everyone andthen someone just said, oh, you
(07:29):
can play with her, she's new,she never played before I always
fall for that trick and shejust smashed all of us.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
No one beat her I always fall for that trick and
I've had like 10 drink of theone girl in my bill.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, like early in this month, I went to Rayong.
Yeah, I ran some errands for myfriend and then decided to stay
like a couple of days and I goout with the guy.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Ban Chang.
No, it's Rayong Very close tolike the main city, oh okay, but
it's very in so near the field.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Oh, the beach is so amazing.
Yeah, and then I like a young,yeah, and then, uh, we go out to
the, to the bar, and then it'sjust like he just keep like come
play pool with me, with me, andthen it's just like I can play,
but sometimes I just lazy, youknow, so it's just like okay you
need the right mood for thatyeah, yeah.
So I asked like okay, uh, whichlady that I can play pool with
him and I buy the drink?
(08:28):
And then it's like one richhigh girl and she's like uh, can
I play too?
But I'm not good, maybe he'llget bored and say like yeah, no,
worry about it to play, I willbuy you the drink, you know and
she just and he just like he's akid, like okay, one more game,
one more game, one more game.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You know, this is something that Scott said the
other time.
So the first time he came toThailand he came with his friend
and he's a decent pool player,like back home in England.
He played, I guess twice orthree times every month Like he
had the experience.
He play I guess twice or threetimes every month Like he have
the experience.
And he come here all hot,thinking he's like, and his
friend tell him, like, after helost two times he say, listen,
(09:12):
let's say you play five hours inone month.
All these girls play five hoursevery day, every day, every day
.
There is no way you are betterthan them.
They know all the tricks andthey know their own table,
because every table is a bitdifferent.
One of them are fast, some areslow, some are more bumpy, you
know.
(09:32):
So it's very depends.
And when you play in that sametable every day for a few months
, you know every another tableyeah, but it's.
It was funny after that, likeMichel was still hot, he wanted
to go flex or something, but weall said no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
That's enough for us.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So we just went home, but it was a good night.
Before I told you and thelisteners haven't heard that we
call John the legend.
Now there is a reason behind it.
It he might want me to cut itafter, so I don't know, it will
go to the to the main episode.
So first of all, I will ask youthat okay, john is like in his,
(10:18):
let's say, late 40s, very late40s, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Okay, very, very late , 60.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah he's 60 years old, oh okay.
And he fucks like a rabbit.
Yeah, you should have drink atthat time.
All the ladies know if they gowith John and I'm saying ladies
and ladyboys, if they go withJohn, they will not be able to
walk the next day.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
You have to buy the wheelchair.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Even last time I was speaking with our I will not say
her name, because last time shewas angry at me but our, let's
say more aggressive friend from69, the one that beat us all the
time.
Yes, I know, and who you'retalking about yes, and she said
like she never went with john.
But they are good friends.
(11:11):
And I asked her like jokely,like why you haven't been with
him, like what is the reason?
She said oh, I heard thestories like and everyone say
john is too big, john is toostrong, john is taking too long
that's how he's directing yeahhow do you think about this
(11:33):
comment?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
oh, look, here you've got to get your money's worth.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You for sure, get your money's worth you've got to
a thing that is a bit serious.
Many of the guys here and Ithink it's not only the young,
the older guys, I think itstarts like since even 30 they
come here and they think, okay,I have to perform better.
So they start to take camagraand everything and then their
(12:01):
body use, get used to that andthey cannot perform without it.
And as far as I know, you takenothing, no, nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh, that's so bad.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Nothing.
No, no, it's interestingbecause many of the guys have
the performance issue.
It's something that you are notaware, but if we had ladyboys
here, they will say yeah, yeah,we know.
And then, like it's getting toyour mind sometime and you think
, oh, can I perform?
Maybe I had too much drink ormaybe I had too much food.
You like really thinking aboutit.
(12:31):
You know, being ladies a biteasier in that way, you just
have to get wet and okay.
But for us, you know, we needto get the blood flowing.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So this is why we call him the legend and also you
.
He introduced me for to some ofhis friends, which are really
nice.
I will not say they say theirname because I don't know if
they won't but one of yourfriends is.
Everyone call him your son andwe like this guy.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I haven't seen him for a while Is he, okay, he's
back.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's back already.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I've been out, not for two weeks
, oh, okay, but I said when wewas in KRU the other night I
took the photo and sent it tohim.
Oh, okay and yeah, but I knowwhen he went back to the uk he
(13:28):
stopped drinking, even though hewasn't a big, big drinker, he
just I never seen him.
And then when he come back, twoweeks we went out, uh, he drink
water, he just wanted a layoffthat that's you know.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I think sometimes people get carried away with the
drinking here, like I know I dosometimes, yeah, because back
home I'm not a big drinker, notat all like maybe once a month.
And then, yeah, I come here andthen, oh, you go out with
friends, you have a few drinksthe next day, again and again,
and again, and it's like a cycle, yeah, that you find yourself
not alcoholic but really like,oh, I'm drinking every day yeah,
(14:08):
it's not about the money againno, no, same.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Same to me, like at right now, because I already I
did not work as a bar manager, Idid not drink at all, but then
when I drink, same thinghappened.
That's why I try to avoid todrink or going out for drinking,
because, like, when I start todrink, I cannot stop, I just end
up.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
They have to be breakout, that's it, I stop
fingers where I think, when youwork in a bar as well, you're
getting customers.
Ah, drink you, drink you meanit's about a girl as a or even a
manager you know, sometimespeople want to buy my mom they
want to buy the cashier, like Ido when I go to Delores.
(14:46):
I always buy.
Lana and everyone I always getthem a drink because I've known
them a long time, so I get thema drink.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I know that and this is actually an interesting point
normally and this is somethingthat actually we spoke about,
but there is kind of a problemwhen you get to know so many
people in the bars that you endup spending much more money.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
So, for example, that's why many times girls in
the bar come up oh John, you buyme a drink?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
No, Not tonight.
They don't know people.
Yeah, and you don't want toinsult them, but you cannot buy
everyone you know a drink.
No, not tonight, not tonight.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
No, no people, yeah, and you don't want to insult
them, but you cannot buyeveryone you know a drink.
No, you can't.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So, for example, if you think a lady drink is like?
Depending on like walkingstreet or even in Soi Bacau,
it's minimum of 150 baht.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
130 is the minimum but yeah, or minimum 130.
If we're talking delirious,delirious is 130, for example,
no that's 150 now.
Now 150,.
They raise the price.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, they get 70 baht per drink now, I think.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay, that's maybe because of the low season.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Okay, I can understand that low season, yeah
, but you go around the bars nowand some are Empty, yes, and
you feel sorry.
You do feel sorry For the girls, you do.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You know I am Many times Like I've seen, so now my
Automatically go to Bar is 69.
You know that, yeah, yeah.
And like I know Everyone thereand some of the girls Like if I
come late they tell me listen,like that's my first drink, like
1 am, 2 am the first drink, sobasically, they sit there.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
They don't have customers, but the last week was
really good.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I don't know what's going on.
I think, like September broughta lot of new tourists here
because the bar was packed Eventhat night.
69 bar was.
Even that night 69 bar was yeah, no, you've been to peachy
before the same night, sorry.
Yes, yeah, and 69 was alsopacked everywhere.
Now is getting more livelyagain.
So, yeah, I think there is likea bunch of new tourists that
(16:58):
came.
You don't go out much, so youdon't see, I don't go out at all
.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That's the thing yeah , I know, I don't even go out of
my, of my room okay, so youneed to go out more.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
We need to take you out forceful, forcefully take
you out oh, you build you such abullshit, you know, she said
that, stop it, stop it.
And then she messaged me heyguys, you go out today, you go
out and she always message methe neck the day after.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I'm smashed that I out.
That's why, because I that dayI always the girl from the gym.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Oh, okay, and never go now we should.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
We should have a big night out today.
But we spoke, for example, withmichelle and michelle really
like to go to the walking street, the whole flex and boho, yeah,
and we said it's okay, but wecannot do that every time we go
out.
No, it's too heavy.
You know, once a week, onfriday, when it's packed and
it's like okay, but doing thatthree times a week it's cost a
(18:01):
lot of money.
It's take a lot of toll of yourbody also, like you are getting
the next day you cannot doanything, just sit in your home
like oh, sometimes it takes metwo days to sober up yeah, yeah,
I get that, I really get that.
And then like this way I preferonce a week like a big night out
and then during friday orsaturday, yeah, yeah.
(18:23):
So walking street is reallyactive on Friday.
This is like the most activeday.
So we try to make it FridayUsually.
Saturday sometimes is not thatthat good of a night, but the
thing I wanted to say beforeabout the spending.
So we decided as a group offriends that we stopped by drink
to each other.
It's, there is no point behindit.
(18:47):
Like I go with out, for example, yeah, I buy you drink, then
you buy me drink, and then it'slike a real cycle of.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I've been like back in the uk, why not go out with
friends, like.
But if say like, if there were,say like six of us or whatever,
we go in pairs.
Yeah, so us two, I buy one,them two, you know they buy
their own.
Yeah, I get that, so you're ina round with one person.
Yeah, but Because you know atthe end of the night if you go
(19:16):
say like six people, oh, it's myround, what you, oh, I don't
know.
Yeah, and he hasn't boughtaround it.
Yeah, or night, or something.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
You know, it's making some uncomfortable situations.
And also, like the other day,me and it was michelle, I think
we went to a bar.
We each had one drink becausewe wanted to move to another bar
, but we knew a lot of theladyboys over there and each
bill was about 700 for one drinkthat we had.
(19:49):
Because you feel uncomfortable,you know.
Oh, I know her and I promisedher last time and this is a nice
girl, oh, this is the new girlthey want to introduce to us,
you know, and we end up likepaying 700 for one drink,
basically, yeah, yeah, samething to me, like right now if
someone asks me to uh to jointhem, to soy sick.
(20:10):
It's just like nah because youknow everyone over there.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I don't know everyone , but sometimes like if I've
been there before and I havebeen by the good drink before, I
just awkwardly do not buy itagain, and somehow the girl
inside city will have good's.
Just awkward to not buy itagain.
And somehow the girl in Soy 6have good memory of their
customer Of course All the girlshave good memory of their
customers.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Do you like Soy 6?
I've not really been out.
I've been out twice, soy 6.
And you're living here for along time.
It wasn't for me you know, okay, why?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's interesting?
Because I have the same, thesame feeling about soy sticks.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I don't know it was just just no too much.
Yeah, they're too grabby, Imean my, my visa agents down soy
six.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Okay, one stop and uh if I have to, oh, it's the most
famous visa place in Badr yeah,most famous.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah, mark and Pom do a brilliant job.
Okay, yeah, you can give them ashout out, no problem.
Yeah, they do a brilliant job.
And yeah, sometimes I have togo well, drop my passport down
there for my 90-day report.
I go down there before 12o'clock.
Why don't you go do it yourself?
It's so easy.
I like to do it, they do it.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You just go give a high five and you know.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Hand over me passport and they do it, I go well,
Friday.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
He's on a retirement visa, obviously, but he said
something interesting to me theother day he's thinking about
living thailand.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
You spoke with me about that, um if, if things
start changing what they'resaying, what's gonna happen?
I, I would go and live invietnam.
My team, yeah, you know, do youknow?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
what he's talking about.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
It's just getting harder and harder, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
What is that about?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
to get shared it's just about having the 800,000
baht in your bank account forfour months.
Oh, like not using money.
There's no way I'm going to put18,000 odd pound in a bank
account.
I can't.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, you can't even count that hard?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Why?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
yeah, you can't even know that because this is the
requirement for the retirementvisa right now.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Oh so you have to prove four months before three
months.
Yeah, there's a lot of money tohave in a bank that money that
you cannot touch.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, I agree, I have some friend that like uh, not
even put money in the bank atall too yeah, but this is like
scams.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You know not scams, but this is like a go around,
you know yeah, I know that theycome up but for him he did it
yeah yeah, probably, it'sprobably not, you know but it
sucks because no point to putmoney in like that much in the
bank.
Yeah, but you need spend everyday thailand all like I I saw
the the news and they say theylose a lot of, like tourists
(23:07):
here and, like I think I sawlike nine or ten percent down
from last year, yeah, which is alot, yeah.
And the people that actuallylive here on retirement visa, on
the tv visa or whatever, why tomake, why you try to make their
life so much harder they areliving here, they are spending a
lot of money anyway.
The Thai government needs tokeep those guys.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
The truth is that foreigners can do much of the
business in Thailand anyway,even though it's so easy to open
a business here.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's not that easy.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Especially in this age.
Most people just work online,you know.
And they bring the money in andthey spend it anyway.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
They spend a lot of money here.
I mean it's not as if two-weekmillionaire, you know no of
course not.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I'm not saying that.
Yeah, no, no, I know thetwo-weeks millionaire.
You know that term.
No, so two-weeksaires are theguys that come here, especially
on the first or second time andthey like coming with a lot of
money.
But there are only two weekshere and they're spending huge
amounts of money that back homethey will never spend as much.
You know like we are talking200,000 for two months, for two
(24:16):
weeks.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Sorry, yeah, you know 200,000, but it's a lot of
money, or even more.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, or even more.
Yeah or even more.
So, yeah, the retirement guysor the dtv guys, they are not
spending as much, but it'sconsistent.
You know if you are looking howmuch they spend during one year
.
That's a lot of money forhousing, for going out for a
phone company, for bills,whatever yeah, yeah, when it's
like for the Thai people to livein Thailand, my own country.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
It's also been hard and been more expensive every
fucking year.
I mean my condo's over.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I pay one year upfront, all the time.
Wow, 113,000 baht.
I pay out Without deposit,that's with a deposit, oh, with
a deposit, with a 5,000 deposit,so 108,000, which is a lot of
money.
Which is a lot of money, butI'm paying that straight out
every year like every January.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
That's good.
I was thinking about doing that, but then we got to like we
thought about it and we wantedto rent like a big house and
like live as a roommate, which Iknow doesn't really make sense.
But me personally, I'm like Idon't like to be alone, you know
(25:35):
, I prefer to know that.
Yeah, it's not in my room butin the house somewhere.
Yeah, we also spoke with Ellie.
She might be our roommate.
So it's me, scott, and now weare searching the house and the
roommate.
We actually probably will gosee house next week.
You know where is the village?
I've heard of it do you know thevillage?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
no, I see some couple of house, a couple of houses,
but mostly like in the dark sidedark side has got some
beautiful houses and notexpensive.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I tell you more than that.
It's half the price, half theprice of what you pay in Pattaya
itself.
Right, I know that, the darkside, you get amazing houses
with pool with everything.
But let's be honest.
How many times would you usethe pool?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
ah, I'm in the pool every day.
Really, you would go every day.
I didn't now today, I didn't,but I was by the pool today, but
I didn't go in swimming.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Oh, okay, every day I I don't know how much I would
use that and the other thing isthat I really prefer the option
to walk around.
I don't mind to pay for theboat or whatever, but I want to
be able to just go out of myhouse and have something there.
You know, in the dark side,it's kind of still dead.
There are some bars over there,there are some gentlemen clubs,
(26:59):
mostly by the way, but it's notthe same.
Gentlemen clubs mostly by theway, but it's not the same.
So the village is on the thirdroad, just in front of the
hospital of the third road.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
The Pattaya City Hospital.
Yeah, that's very close.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yes, that's not far from me.
That's not far from here.
No, it is far from here.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It's a five-minute walk.
Five minutes to Cherpun, yeah.
But they're very close yeah andit's a nice place and they have
a pool, but not in the house.
They have the neighborhood pool.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That you can go to.
They share a facility.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It's not exactly that .
It's like a bar with a pool,but everyone in the neighborhood
goes there and it's reallyclose and the prices are
reasonable.
So a three bedroom house it'slike 10 or 12, something like
that.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
What do you mean?
10k yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
What?
10 or 12.
Yeah, my friend, she just movedfrom a three bedroom to a 4
bedroom and the 4 bedroom shepaid 15.
What?
in the middle of the city, yeahit's crazy and I hope I will
lock down the house before thisepisode go out so people will
(28:20):
know.
But the prices are good.
You need to know where to lookat and again, the best way and
people don't understand that inpattaya if you look online or
facebook, you will find thehigher prices.
Yeah, yeah, but if you knowpeople, that know people yeah
yeah, so in the village this ishow it works.
Everyone knows, oh, there is avacant house now and many people
(28:43):
come and see that house, youknow, and those are the prices
and it's amazing I think that'swhy the house in my, uh, my
brother village is like notreally winslet, it's uh okay
majestic.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
That's why the house.
Is that it's just on this uh,it's not so far from here.
You can drive more, moremotorbike from here, like, uh,
from tepid, like three minutes,okay, three minute or two minute
, and then it's not so far fromhere, not so far from you can
drive more motorbike from here,like from Tepesuit, like 3
minutes ok, 3 minutes or 2minutes ok and then it's like I
remember the house opposite sizeof of the house that I stay.
It's like one time it's like itgot empty, but at least for 2
(29:17):
days, and then people move inand then later I see like, oh,
and then later I see like, oh,the car is shang.
They shang the car.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
And then I asked my brother like oh, no, it's shang
han, the new, new rental reallyall the time it's so fast, it's
so fast in this, in around thisarea too, yeah and another thing
that is good about finding ahouse that is not like from a
company, because most of thehouses here are from like rental
companies no, no, not agents,rental companies that.
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So they own like 50 houses.
So, for example, my friend thatlive in the village, they are
staying two people in one house,yeah.
And I asked her what about thebills?
How much you paid last time?
So first of all she explainedto me when she's there he's not
there, right?
So there is always one personin the house, so that means the
(30:10):
aircon is always on.
I asked so how much you pay forelectricity?
She say 700.
I said what the fuck?
It's so cheap 700.
And water, they pay 100.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
So the bills they don't use.
They don't use.
Do they have aircon?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
yeah, and she said the aircon is always on, always
on 24 hours 700.
So this means they charge us somany, so much money in those
condos or whatever, because theycan.
Yeah, and I you have to get,you have to like normally, like
in those condos or whatever,because they can.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
And you have to get.
You have to like normally, likeif I rent somewhere I always
like okay, I want to rent theone that don't charge extra,
normally like a Thai smallapartment it's already very
cheap, like under 5,000, 3,000,2,000, but they charge extra on
the electric though.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
So my electricity where I stay now is 8 baht per
unit, but she pay my friend inthe village.
They pay only 2 baht per unit.
Really, yeah, 2 or 3, somethinglike that.
So my electricity last timelast month was almost 2,000 baht
.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Is that possible?
Is that possible Because itsounds like the tea in the
village is like a house villageright.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
No, no, the place called the village.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, I mean.
Sorry, I used the wrong term.
I mean like the villa.
You call it the villa.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
It's not a villa, it's just a townhouse.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Oh, okay, but they don't have the electric bill
from the government bill.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I'm not sure but this is what you pay.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
It's a little bit too no.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I think the government minimum is three
points.
Yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
No, I said two or three.
I'm not yeah, yeah, but 700,.
It makes sense because if Ipaid, I'm paying eight per unit,
I'm paying 10.
You're paying 10, right, andyou're reaching 2,000 baht
electricity.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
My water is 27.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
So my water is fixed.
It's 200 per person, it's fixed.
But they pay per unit in waterand electricity.
Yeah, same as me.
So the water was only 100 bahtlast time.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
The water I'm not surprised.
Water is cheap.
Yeah, water, as me.
So the water was only 100, butlast time the water.
I'm not surprised.
Water is cheap.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, water is cheap, but 700 for electricity is
nothing.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, but I mean we probably like gonna use some
other than that.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Okay, let's say we are three people.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
One person in one house.
That means they probably gonnause like one room per house.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
They're not open like the aircon, yeah but I'm, I'm
living right right now in oneroom, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Thousand, that'd be separate room, three person in
one house right, but it's likeit is time time.
Three person is still cheap.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah.
So let's say 700 times three,it's still okay for you yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
So this is amazing and it's kind of furniture.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Most of the the house there are already furnitured,
so you don't need All furnished.
Yeah, so you don't needanything.
They have like washing machine,which is yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
That's the only interesting stuff.
Washing machine.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
No, it is Because I, for example, I don't own washing
machine here, and when I saythey don't have so I go to some
lady that do the laundry for me,which I pay a lot of money near
to my condo, not even have that, like I have to hand wash
because I lazy to walk out, no,no, not in my condo, oh really
too lazy so you hand washeverything so it's
(33:35):
cheaper.
You are not paying as much.
I pay like last time I took mywhole clothes.
I only had one shirt left, oneshirt.
I used the same underwear fortwo days.
Oh yeah, nasty.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Back and front, in and out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah so.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I took the whole clothes to the laundry lady and
I paid like 600 baht which isstill a lot of money.
Yeah, yeah, but you don't wantto pay as much, that much you
know.
I went with our aggressivefriends last time yeah, from 69,
she wanted to do laundry.
She did it on one of thoselaundry places, yeah Right, and
she paid.
The whole thing cost her, likeI don't know, 100 baht, 150 baht
(34:15):
.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
One time my bill from the laundry place is like can
call it up to like 2,000 bahttoo.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
But I get it, You're a lady.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
No, I mean like because I wait until, like okay,
my closet's empty and then Ihave like big shirt like this
but you have more clothes than Ido.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
How many shirts I have?
I have like 10 shirts, rightFew pants, only thing I have a
lot of is underwear and socks.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, that's it.
Like we are, men, we don't neednew outfits every time.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
For example, you, I never see you wear the same
clothes, never.
You always have soon.
Soon you will see I did not, Idid not bring much.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I like I ran out of the last chair in house with the
one back alley.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
So okay, like a few clothes okay, so this is the
situation that we are thinking.
We are thinking about moving inthe village, yeah, and our
ideal situation place will beactually four bedroom, because
we want an office, because alsome, scott and ellie we also have
like many work that we do fromthe computer, yeah, so if we
(35:20):
have an office, yeah, it will begreat.
Yeah, so we are thinking aboutit.
But we can always create anoffice in the living room, it
doesn't really matter yeah, butno, I mean like a walking space
that sometime I can walk.
I'll explain to you what I mean.
Last time I had to do some work.
I had like four hours or fivehours of work I had to do, yeah,
(35:41):
about the podcast.
Yeah, yeah, and scott has hisown work that he had to do.
So he took his tablet and wejust went to some coffee shop,
you know, and we sat together,had few laughs, have had few
drinks, but working the wholetime, yeah, it's much easier to
walk like that than just sittingalone in your room, like you
know.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Even normally I just like lay down on the bed, have
laptop and then mouse, you justyeah, and then you find yourself
because there is no one there,you find yourself just watching
stupid youtube videos for likeoh, you have all the time and,
by the way, I can you know thatI gave you the laptop right.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I can see what you're watching.
You're watching crazy stuff.
Sometimes I see a youtube islike civil engineering, or what
happened when you put poopinside the water, it's okay, but
it's funny.
It's funny to see like I'm I'mlooking at what the fuck is she
(36:40):
watching?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
is it show on you?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I use, I use my youtube you use, but we share
the google earlier.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I don't use.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, we share the google, the home, the call.
So I see all the searches.
Now I don't think I'm stalkingme.
No, there is no come on youknow what?
There is no car, no, there isno phone, there is no nothing
interesting like that yeah justweird youtube.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, weird youtube videos yeah, if you go to my
search bar history, it's just ano, no, it's not a search bar.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
It's not like I'm looking what you're searching, I
just when I open chromeautomatically give you the list
of the last no, no list of thelast thing you watched, all
right yeah, same thing like.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I mean, like, if you really like want to look on my
uh history search bar, it's justall about game that's like
computer gaming and stuff likethat.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
By the way, guys, soon she's going to start
streaming oh, I dropped that whyyou dropped that I try, I try,
I try, I try one time, just forlike one hour okay but then it's
just I don't know I you do youknow what twitch is wait, I have
to explain to him Twitch.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So Twitch is a platform that people can go on
and live stream themselves,mostly while they are gaming, so
you can see what they areplaying, and then you can see
them also and they talk to theirviewer, to the people that view
them, and everything yeah, Ithink I want to do that.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I try one hour but then I stream on.
I forgot, okay, some platform,I forgot the name, but then it's
like just one person talking tome.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, but I told you, I told you in advance, this is
what will happen.
Yeah, so I told you.
I told you in advance, this iswhat will happen.
You have to.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, so I just want to learn how to record the game
screen and record myself at thesame time.
I will show you today how to dothat.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I will show you exactly what software you need
to do that.
I have the laptop here so wecan do that.
So by the way.
And then another thing.
So john used to be married to athai lady.
Oh yeah, for how many yearsagain, john?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
well, uh, we're still married 21 years technically
you're still married split upafter seven so yeah, 14 years
we've been split up, yeah, yeah,you hear it.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
So long time they are not together already.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, but they are still married.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Married, divorced.
Yeah, and she's in the UK andprobably, I think, probably and
he's here.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
I don't know, I don't know, not contact.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
What happened If you?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
don't mind, we just split, we just.
If you don't mind, we just Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
It happened, come on.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Nobody else involved.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, same with my.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Cape Town boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
He will watch it and he will curse me.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Your Thai boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
No, my Cape Town boyfriend.
See some people, they be likethat she go to those South
African guys.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
No, that's good People, they be like that.
She go to those South Africanguys no, that's good.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
That's good.
Oh, just like two days ago hewas calling me After three years
.
I cried why.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
What happened, what he wanted?
Just like to catch up.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, he just wonder how I'm doing.
He's just like yeah, he's nice,he's a very nice guy.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
We are still looking for a boyfriend.
Through the, through thepodcast, we want to find a
boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
We told the listeners like oh, yeah, if you don't
mind, you might not see me forlike a month or two, because I'm
going to be vegetable at home.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
They might be able to be a vegetable in home with you
.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, you need someone to be with you there.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be good.
Get a cat.
Get a cat is better than aboyfriend.
Well, something's not the same.
No, no, come on, no.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
We are not going down .
Not the same pleasure.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's different, it's different.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Well, me and you mostly go to the 80-boy bar, so
I don't know what we arethinking about having a pussy.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, sometimes.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Of course.
Of course I'm not saying, I'mjust saying that you know it's a
different environment.
I will say that, john, we wereasking last time the same
question to other people becauseI really want our listeners to
be able to enjoy our knowledgeof the places we know here.
(41:25):
So, in your opinion, right now,what are the best bars to go to
except of the bar next to yourhouse, because it's a small bar
to go to, except of the bar nextto your house because it's a
small bar?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
I mainly well go to the bar near my condo.
Yeah, I go, obviously Peachy,Peachy.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Lily in LK Metro.
You've been there, right?
Hmm, you've been in Peachy Lily.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Not sure.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Not sure it's a Ladyboy or Gogo bar.
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
We should take you there.
So, peachy, lily, not sure, notsure.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
It's a ladyboy, a go-go bar, maybe not Okay, we
should take you there.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
So, pitchy Lily, I've seen this Pog Bar.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Pog Bar.
Pog Bar, it's one of the onlybars I avoid, is it?
Yeah, because I tell you whythey are so hassle heavy over
there.
The moment we sit down,immediately there is someone
coming.
Ok, let's go to room, let's goto room.
And she is not letting go.
They really work on the shorttimes over there and it's kind
(42:25):
of like sometimes when you arewith the guys, like no, I will
not go to the short time it'sall about pressure yeah, ok, no,
I will not go to the short time.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Oh, it's on my pressure.
Yeah, yeah, say PG KIU, okay.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Delirious 69.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Bon Bal.
Yeah, fantasy sometimes.
Oh, fantasy is an interestingbar.
Yeah, cindy is delirious 69 bar.
And no, not Ladyboy Bar.
Duanji Duanjai oh.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Duanjai Duan bar and no, not ladyboy bar.
Do anji, do anjay, oh, do anjay, don't die, don't die, uh, gg.
So all the ladyboy bars?
He's just naming all theladyboy bars.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah, it's better fun , it's the best fun it is, it is
it's the best fun and lady bars, not really, not really, no,
sometimes.
The other day I went inTreetown, palm Beach.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Okay, yeah, I know that Palm Beach it's a nice
lovely place it is and they havelike big pool tables over there
.
Yeah, and they have the screenswhen they build the big screen.
You've been there.
It's like amazing they aredoing the killer pool the killer
killer pool.
You know the game, but what theydo.
(43:38):
They have two huge screens andthey have two tables big ones
and you see everything on thescreens the name.
It's very professional the waythey do the killer pool over
there.
It's like, I think, the mostprofessional place I've seen.
Yeah, but this is why it'spacked all the time.
This is the reason.
Yeah, so it's nice.
(43:59):
I don't like Killer Pool, in myopinion.
By the way, I just got thecards back.
You know what cards I mean.
You remember the card game weused to play in Delirious before
?
Yes, I got the cards back.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
From what you left them there, did you?
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, but I had more cards in other bars.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Oh right, so I placed some cards everywhere.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
No, that was good fun .
Speaker 3 (44:23):
So now.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
I put that in 69.
In 69?
Yeah, so even you can go ask ifI'm not there.
Hey, I want to play there andthey will join you.
You played that game with usbefore I don't think.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
so what card?
So it's a very interesting game.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
It's called Poker Pool, poker Pool.
So you get cards On the cards.
It represents the real balls onthe table.
What All the cards?
Each card shows you a ball fromthe pool table, so let's say
the 8 ball, the 7 ball, whateverright.
And each card show you a ballfrom the pool table, so let's
say the eight ball, the sevenball there, whatever right.
And each card have four copies.
(44:58):
And let's say the three of us,so each one of us get eight
cards, for example, and yourgoal is to get rid of all your
cards.
Each time a ball that you havein your cards go inside, you
take out the card okay, okay,how about, like we, we do that,
maybe next episode.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Okay, no, it could be fun.
No, you cannot play it here.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
You need a pool table , oh is it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you play itwith the pool, the cards and the
pool table, so you have a poolball.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
So much for my hair, Okay okay, okay, I need to say
it from like, from a real person.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
It's a really good game, that's how that's best.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I learn right.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I learn it when I do it and you can play up to 10
players.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
I think if she see the cards, she will understand
immediately.
Yeah, better idea.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, there is of mind games over there, because
me and you can have the samecard.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
So you could have three of the same cards, four of
the same cards and then youjust two balls and you won.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Okay, we will show you that next time.
It's interesting, it's fun.
So I got the cards back becauseI really I told you I don't
enjoy the killer pool.
It takes too long and peopleare just not very involved in
that game.
It's very singular game, youknow, even though many people
are playing.
Yeah, it's basically you'replaying against yourself, you're
(46:21):
not playing against anyone else.
Now you're playing how good youare at pocketing a ball and the
game that I'm speaking is verylike you have to go for that
particular ball, yeah but youplay with other, but you don't
want anyone else to know whatballs you have.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Okay, so it's more like a connection between yeah
everyone.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
You see everyone with the cards and hiding the cards
and like it's interesting.
So this game I know for a longtime from.
I didn't invent that game butmany people think I did.
You remember back theneverything.
Oh, that's Mike's game, that'sMike's game, but it's very nice.
So we will play that next time.
And I really like those kind ofthings because just sitting in
(47:05):
a bar and drinking all the timecan get boring.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
And then I also like very boring same game like
connect four checking, but Ilearned some.
And then I also, like I'm veryboring, like same game like
connect flow checking.
You know, oh, I fucking hatethat, but I learned some new
game.
Before I quit the job I learnedsome new game that I really
like.
It's like I don't I forget thename, but I think it's called
like Caught the Liar.
It's like it's with the diceright.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Okay, the checking dice.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
And then it's like, yeah right.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
And then it's like, yeah, but it's a different game.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
I think, yeah, but then it's like, uh, after you
shake, right, yeah.
And then uh, the first, it'sgoing to be like first person,
first person.
The example like this is my, myroute to.
To call Example, I say, uh,number dice, that's me.
Then the people can guess, youknow, like, if there's three of
(47:54):
the.
You say that no one see oh no,no, so it's like you try to lie
yeah, that's all like if, so, ifthe, if the someone say like no
, you lie, then I have to open,and then, if I don't, but
everyone have to open.
If I don't have three dice orfour, then I lose.
(48:15):
But sometimes it's like this IfI have one one, it counts as
any number.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Oh, and then three.
So number one can be six or canbe five, can be anything.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yeah, so even if I have like just one, one, only
one, but then other people havefour and then it counts more
than three.
I win.
So the person who says I'mlying.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
How many dice?
You have Four dice, Six, Six.
So the best thing you can getis six times one.
Then you can.
No one can like you say I havesix, six, you win.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
But like if the person who says I'm lying, but
after count all the table, Ihave it, and then he will take
out the dice, one dice, untilthe person who lose all the dice
first lose, oh, okay.
It's more long game, but I likeit better than short game and
it's more communicative.
So the winner is the last lastman standing basically okay,
(49:14):
normally we don't really, uh,yeah, yeah, the winner is last
standing, yeah okay, I, I, Iwant to tell that to the
listeners.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
So many of the bars if you've never been here they
have all sorts of games.
The reason they have thosegames is because some of the
girls don't speak very goodenglish or sometimes they don't
have too much.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
No, sometimes, sometimes they don't have too
much?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
no, sometimes, although they don't have too
many things in common, right, sothey cannot speak too much.
So the girls always bring gamesout.
So, as she said, connect four.
There are the dice games.
There are different dice gamethat we play normally, which is
actually gambling game the oneand six.
You know that.
Yeah, this is a dangerous gamebecause it's so quick and then
(49:57):
you lose a lot of drinks.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
I quite have a good.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
There is no skill there, you can.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
After you open, you can trip it like trick it.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
My friend.
She's very good.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
No, no, I mean not like trip it by hand, but for
the next round you can predicthow to check it to get the dice
you want.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah, but it's still not 100% skill, it's mostly luck
and most of the people just dothem three, four times put and
then they open and they have, ofcourse, pool and they have the
jackpot, how it's called.
I hate that game.
Yeah, I hate this game.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
this is so boring they can always start with that.
It's easy to understand.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
For them and, for example, I went to a soy bar soy
six bar before uh named soho.
You know ollie, he's going.
He went to Delirious many times.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah, I know him from Delirious.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
I've never been to his bar, so in his bar it's a
very game-heavy bar and mostlythe girls don't play the games
with you, but the bartenders do.
You have two bartenders andthey actually look alike, but
they are not sisters, but theylook very similar.
I think on purpose they try tolook similar to confuse people
(51:18):
and they have like 50, 60 drinksevery day just from the games
and they play everything.
Connect four and the fuckingcrocodile, yeah, yeah, all those
kind of games and this isactually a very smart way to
generate money without pushingthe customer to buy drinks.
Like hey, let's play a game,let's make it fun.
(51:39):
If you win, I buy you a drink.
If I win, you buy me a drink,like in 69 Bar.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
when I go in there you play pool play for a drink,
I'll go in there.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yeah, but sometimes you win and you get a drink
alcohol in it yeah, butsometimes you win and you get a
drink which is fair, which isfair in that way.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Yeah, I think so too.
Some people are just so scaredto play the game with the lady
which game Connect Four, becausethe ladies, of course they are
professional.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
No, not Connect Four.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Even just the shaking game Like guys so easy, just
pure luck.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Yeah, but I understand that some guys feel
they don't like to feelpressured to buy drinks.
This is actually a big, bigthing, because I understand the
girls.
The drinks are the biggest partof their salary, right, if they
are not making drinks, they arenot making money.
Right, it's not only about theshow time or the long time,
(52:35):
basically the sex.
No, it's mostly the drinks andit's they have to get a drink.
But for the customer, he'sthinking and I understand where
the customer coming from oh, Iwill see this in this bar now I
will spend two thousand baht fordrinks or I can just take
someone and fuck, because thecustomers want to fuck,
basically, and the girls wantthe drinks.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
So it's like it's a cat and mouse if I run it 50, 60
, 70 bar per drink.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
Well, you are drinking beer.
You are a beer guy.
I'm not drinking beer.
I'm drinking vodka andSchweppes, which is 150 or 120.
Yeah, or the Smile of Ice,which is the cheapest one is 100
and delirious, and normallyit's 130.
Right, although, although,although I have something
(53:24):
interesting to say.
So yesterday I went to somerandom bar that my friend.
She walks there.
She's a lady.
I know her many years, saw herbefore.
She's the lady next.
She have a bar next todelirious.
You saw her many times oh, yeah, you remember her.
So in her bar they selleverything for 55 baht beers 55,
(53:46):
you want, whiskey 55, vodka 55with mixer.
And I just told Scott, like weare wasting so much money on
getting drunk, we can just gothere drink as much as we can
Get drunk first.
Yeah, get drunk first and thengo to the other places.
You know it's much cheaper,yeah.
And he said like, yeah, you'reabsolutely right, because
(54:08):
normally I pay 150 baht for mydrink, which is still not a lot
compared to back home, I know.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
But when you are staying here every day and
drinking almost every day and atleast five, six drinks every
day, I like it like that Because, like example, like Sam when I
was in Bangkok, I like the playgame, you know like play game
before you go to the club.
You do like play game.
Play game time In Bangkok.
It used to the club.
You do like pre-game.
Yeah, yeah, in bangkok it usedto have like I don't know if
(54:37):
they still have it, because atsome point they start to don't
have a much of it.
It's called the ship charliebar.
Okay, yeah, it's just it's not.
You cannot even call it a barbecause like not really have
much seats, you know, comparedto like all the customers.
So, like everyone just go therefor play game until until like
10 pm and then we hit to the carokay and it's very cheap to
(55:00):
drink over it is it's so cheap,like same, like, uh what you say
, like around 55 60, yeah 50, 60, 70 baht.
That's it.
Yeah, but yeah.
But some girl also can be alittle bit like oh, you want to
date, honest?
No, I want to get drunk and Iyeah, for me.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
For me, for example, I don't like to drink in my room
.
I don't like.
I try to avoid that.
I don't have any alcohol in myroom because I think this is the
first step for alcoholism.
Yeah, when you are drinking inyour room alone, that's bad news
.
Yeah, and we know many guyshere that even before they go
out they get like smashed in therooms like having like half a
(55:40):
liter or whatever, and then theygo out.
By the way, even michellemichelle, every time before we
go out he have like five or fourdrinks in his room and I think
it's not like yeah, I've got noalcohol at all yeah and I, I
really prefer that because Idon't want to be dependent on
that.
I prefer to go out, but when wego out again we are paying more
(56:01):
.
So there have to be somebalance for that and I really
wish someone would open like,even like, let's say, a ladyboy
bar for example, which havethose kind of prices for drinks.
Then we will be there all thetime.
Like, if you go Dongjai now,which is the cheapest ladyboy
bar right now, you pay, I think,80 or 90 for a vodka right Over
(56:26):
there.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
The beers are always cheap there also.
They are like 65, I think.
Yeah, I always drink San MiguelIn Dongjai, always cheap there
also, they are like 65 I thinksan miguel in dong jai I think
it's 65, for, yeah, it's notexpensive, yeah, no, it's not.
So it's much better to havethose kind of prices and then
you will stay there longer.
You remember we spoke last timeabout the thing that if you go
to a cheap place, sometimes youeven spend more than you would
spend in other places becauseyou think, oh, it's so cheap, I
(56:51):
can.
Yeah, I can afford it, yeah,yeah, so I really maybe we can
do it together open that kind ofa ladyboy bar oh, there's a
cheap charlie, yeah, cheapcharlie ladyboy bar.
That can be nice.
Yeah, we call it.
I don't have a name likecharlie.
What is the female version ofcharlie?
Speaker 2 (57:14):
a name like charlie.
What is the female?
Speaker 1 (57:16):
version of charlie.
Uh, half for sure they havesomething that sounds like that.
Do you have an idea?
No, I don't like john.
I will say joanna, for example.
So charlie will be likecharlie's, I don't know.
So you call it the cheapcharlie's bar.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
You guys can give us ideas we might open maybe one
day you fight us off in the bartogether and, as I see, we have
to close to finish this episode.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
So, first of all, john, I love you, brother.
We always have so much fun andwe were supposed to do another
kind of episode today, but it'sstill.
It was interesting.
I think we shared a lot of likereal raw stuff today, yeah, you
know.
Yeah, no filters, no, nothing,just explaining the experience.
So, thank you for coming backand I we also have some plans.
(58:07):
Might be next sunday we have todecide.
Yeah, because he has somefriend that he wants to bring to
our podcast.
He said a very interesting guythat we we can set up.
So you guys might have anotherinteresting episode with john
soon.
So, thank you, thank you, uh,anything you want, yeah, yeah,
yeah, sorry, sorry okay, thankyou, you guys, for listening,
(58:40):
listening.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
What is that listening?
And don't forget to like andsubscribe, yeah and, as she said
, like, subscribe.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
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You don't have to do anythingbut go to the patreon page.
This is the way we can havethis podcast over here.
And I want to thank also fox3,the studio which this is the
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It's in teppercit market hey,teppercit road, sorry, not
(59:11):
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You can contact them.
So thanks you, fox streetstudio and we will see you next
time.
Thank you.
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike and Ellie and we havea guy that you heard his voice.
You never seen him, but we haveJohn the legend here.
Hello, john, hello, good to dowith Michelle.
(00:30):
Have you seen that?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh, I want that episode.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I didn't know you were going to do a drunk episode
.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We drank, so it was at least one liter of vodka,
okay, and at the end of theepisodeott was like sleeping,
drunk, puking on in the toilet.
Oh, like he was laying downlike puking and me and michelle,
I saw the three musketeers yeah, the three musketeers, and then
and then we just covered himwith the towel, give him fan and
(01:00):
then me and michelle just wentout.
He stayed in michelle room,really, yeah, but it was a great
episode.
Yeah, this time not like lasttime, which last time me and
john we I don't know if youheard that episode, but we did a
very serious episode.
We will not get into that, but,guys, if you want to hear that
(01:20):
episode it's called mini'slegacy, so we would love you to
give it a listen.
It's very emotional, very rawand I think it's one of the best
, uh, the best recording I everhad.
It was very good.
We did it with pimp last time.
Oh, okay, yeah, so this timeyeah, you should, but this time
(01:41):
me and john said okay, no, wewant to have fun, we don't want
to be as emotional and crying.
Everyone was crying lastepisode, so this one will be a
bit different okay, yeah sofirst, john, how, how are you
doing?
We are meeting each other um ohgood, thank you.
Yeah, yeah, oh good we, you knowwe had john, will confirm that
(02:02):
so few.
I think it was two weeks ago.
We met john and he just it wasme, scott, right, yeah, and
michelle, and we met john andjohn was like, yeah, scott's
birthday, yeah, it was onscott's birthday, scott's
birthday when he just come backit's the same day he come back
from england after three weeks.
(02:23):
So he was like ready to go, youknow, and we had like a bar call
and we ended up in Flex, firstBoho, then Flex seven or eight
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, it was daylight and the sun was up.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So we were very drunk , but it was very good.
Did you enjoy Flex?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Because it's very different from what we normally
go for, yeah, first time, firsttime in boho, first time in flex
which one was like better foryou flex, flex, because a little
bit, a little bit, and themusic you know, yeah, good.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So boho, we should go .
We spoke about it before.
It's a very small club and theyplay mostly EDM.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It is good they have a few good DJs over there.
We know two of them.
One of them will probably be onour podcast sometime this month
.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, the problem is, when you can't go, you can't
call me.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Because we never know when we go.
I'm telling you the truth, it'sstarting out like that.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I tell you, let's go.
So, for example, scott reallyangry me about that, because
sometimes we say I just call himlike six in the evening, scott,
I'm a bit hungry, you want tograb some food?
He say yeah, yeah, yeah, let'sgo get some food.
And we had, we just want to eatsomething.
And we say no drinking today.
And we agree no drinking today.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Then we found ourselves eight in the morning
in that situation like okay,let's just grab a dinner, no
drinking, but then end up likeuntil the morning I.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I find unplanned nights are the best nights, I
agree, like the other night whenI met you in 69.
Last time we went out, you know, two nights ago, yeah, yeah,
yeah, I'd been out to Jong Tian,to a bar, come back three times
.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
But you came already I went to Cindy's.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
No, he could, cindy.
No, peachy Peachy Lee.
You've been to Peachy Lee,peachy KRU or KRU.
My friend, his girlfriend, wenthome.
I said, oh, I'll go around toWhiskey Lounge, walking past 69,
one of the girls said said, oh,your friends are in here.
(04:46):
I walk in Mike Scott andMichelle oh.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
The whole gang.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And that was it Until Crazy night.
Five, I think, five in themorning, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So we went to To Pitchy again.
He'd just been to Pitchy, butwe went there again.
And after that we went toCindy's Secret.
Cindy's Secret is a new kind ofa new bar ladyboy bar in
Pattaya.
They have oh, I don't know forhow many years they have another
bar in Bangkok, very famous one.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What's the name?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Cindy's Secret.
The reason it's called Cindy'sSecret?
Because in Bangkok it's in asmall alley.
No one knows where is that?
You know, it's like a secret,and here also they did the same.
So they choose a very smallalley in order to keep the main
theme no one will go there Notour main soy bokeh.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's just off, yeah, but it's an alley that no one go
there.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I see.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Where the rock?
Is it a rock station?
Yeah, a rock factory, Rockfactory.
On the corner you turn and doyou know where?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, it's exactly in front of the Buddha statue the
elephant, not Buddha theelephant statue that everyone
stop and pray in Soi Bokau, nearSoi Hani.
So you just turn right and it'sthere.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I like the idea of like a secret bar, hiding bar.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
It's actually really good because, especially with
the ladyboy community, some guysare kind of shy about that.
So, oh, I will not go in themain main areas.
So then they go to, yeah youknow, to the secret alleys, to
the secret places, but it'sreally nice and, like the bar
(06:23):
close the tree, they just shutthe doors, close the curtains,
turn off the music closet 3 pm 3am, but we stayed until 5
because they know, okay, we havelike, yeah, but it's very nice.
Of course, we had a few drinks,a lot of pool, we played a lot
(06:44):
of pool.
Oh, they have pool too yes, oneof the best pool tables
actually here, like usually theladyboy bars.
I don't know why they have shitpool tables, like delirious,
for example, like they are notgood pool tables.
They are very old and likebumpy, you know, and in there
and 69 they have like new tables, very good ones, yeah okay but
(07:05):
we've been hustled, but by thatyoung lady boy at the end.
Do you remember that?
Yeah, so we played a lot ofpool and, yeah, I was playing
like shit at the beginning, atthe beginning, and then I got,
like you know, I got somepractice, I got ready, I got hot
, and then I I beat everyone andthen someone just said, oh, you
(07:29):
can play with her, she's new,she never played before I always
fall for that trick and shejust smashed all of us.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
No one beat her I always fall for that trick and
I've had like 10 drink of theone girl in my bill.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, like early in this month, I went to Rayong.
Yeah, I ran some errands for myfriend and then decided to stay
like a couple of days and I goout with the guy.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Ban Chang.
No, it's Rayong Very close tolike the main city, oh okay, but
it's very in so near the field.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Oh, the beach is so amazing.
Yeah, and then I like a young,yeah, and then, uh, we go out to
the, to the bar, and then it'sjust like he just keep like come
play pool with me, with me, andthen it's just like I can play,
but sometimes I just lazy, youknow, so it's just like okay you
need the right mood for thatyeah, yeah.
So I asked like okay, uh, whichlady that I can play pool with
him and I buy the drink?
(08:28):
And then it's like one richhigh girl and she's like uh, can
I play too?
But I'm not good, maybe he'llget bored and say like yeah, no,
worry about it to play, I willbuy you the drink, you know and
she just and he just like he's akid, like okay, one more game,
one more game, one more game.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You know, this is something that Scott said the
other time.
So the first time he came toThailand he came with his friend
and he's a decent pool player,like back home in England.
He played, I guess twice orthree times every month Like he
had the experience.
He play I guess twice or threetimes every month Like he have
the experience.
And he come here all hot,thinking he's like, and his
friend tell him, like, after helost two times he say, listen,
(09:12):
let's say you play five hours inone month.
All these girls play five hoursevery day, every day, every day
.
There is no way you are betterthan them.
They know all the tricks andthey know their own table,
because every table is a bitdifferent.
One of them are fast, some areslow, some are more bumpy, you
know.
(09:32):
So it's very depends.
And when you play in that sametable every day for a few months
, you know every another tableyeah, but it's.
It was funny after that, likeMichel was still hot, he wanted
to go flex or something, but weall said no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
That's enough for us.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So we just went home, but it was a good night.
Before I told you and thelisteners haven't heard that we
call John the legend.
Now there is a reason behind it.
It he might want me to cut itafter, so I don't know, it will
go to the to the main episode.
So first of all, I will ask youthat okay, john is like in his,
(10:18):
let's say, late 40s, very late40s, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Okay, very, very late , 60.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah he's 60 years old, oh okay.
And he fucks like a rabbit.
Yeah, you should have drink atthat time.
All the ladies know if they gowith John and I'm saying ladies
and ladyboys, if they go withJohn, they will not be able to
walk the next day.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
You have to buy the wheelchair.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Even last time I was speaking with our I will not say
her name, because last time shewas angry at me but our, let's
say more aggressive friend from69, the one that beat us all the
time.
Yes, I know, and who you'retalking about yes, and she said
like she never went with john.
But they are good friends.
(11:11):
And I asked her like jokely,like why you haven't been with
him, like what is the reason?
She said oh, I heard thestories like and everyone say
john is too big, john is toostrong, john is taking too long
that's how he's directing yeahhow do you think about this
(11:33):
comment?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
oh, look, here you've got to get your money's worth.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You for sure, get your money's worth you've got to
a thing that is a bit serious.
Many of the guys here and Ithink it's not only the young,
the older guys, I think itstarts like since even 30 they
come here and they think, okay,I have to perform better.
So they start to take camagraand everything and then their
(12:01):
body use, get used to that andthey cannot perform without it.
And as far as I know, you takenothing, no, nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh, that's so bad.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Nothing.
No, no, it's interestingbecause many of the guys have
the performance issue.
It's something that you are notaware, but if we had ladyboys
here, they will say yeah, yeah,we know.
And then, like it's getting toyour mind sometime and you think
, oh, can I perform?
Maybe I had too much drink ormaybe I had too much food.
You like really thinking aboutit.
(12:31):
You know, being ladies a biteasier in that way, you just
have to get wet and okay.
But for us, you know, we needto get the blood flowing.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So this is why we call him the legend and also you
.
He introduced me for to some ofhis friends, which are really
nice.
I will not say they say theirname because I don't know if
they won't but one of yourfriends is.
Everyone call him your son andwe like this guy.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I haven't seen him for a while Is he, okay, he's
back.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's back already.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I've been out, not for two weeks
, oh, okay, but I said when wewas in KRU the other night I
took the photo and sent it tohim.
Oh, okay and yeah, but I knowwhen he went back to the uk he
(13:28):
stopped drinking, even though hewasn't a big, big drinker, he
just I never seen him.
And then when he come back, twoweeks we went out, uh, he drink
water, he just wanted a layoffthat that's you know.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I think sometimes people get carried away with the
drinking here, like I know I dosometimes, yeah, because back
home I'm not a big drinker, notat all like maybe once a month.
And then, yeah, I come here andthen, oh, you go out with
friends, you have a few drinksthe next day, again and again,
and again, and it's like a cycle, yeah, that you find yourself
not alcoholic but really like,oh, I'm drinking every day yeah,
(14:08):
it's not about the money againno, no, same.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Same to me, like at right now, because I already I
did not work as a bar manager, Idid not drink at all, but then
when I drink, same thinghappened.
That's why I try to avoid todrink or going out for drinking,
because, like, when I start todrink, I cannot stop, I just end
up.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
They have to be breakout, that's it, I stop
fingers where I think, when youwork in a bar as well, you're
getting customers.
Ah, drink you, drink you meanit's about a girl as a or even a
manager you know, sometimespeople want to buy my mom they
want to buy the cashier, like Ido when I go to Delores.
(14:46):
I always buy.
Lana and everyone I always getthem a drink because I've known
them a long time, so I get thema drink.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I know that and this is actually an interesting point
normally and this is somethingthat actually we spoke about,
but there is kind of a problemwhen you get to know so many
people in the bars that you endup spending much more money.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
So, for example, that's why many times girls in
the bar come up oh John, you buyme a drink?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
No, Not tonight.
They don't know people.
Yeah, and you don't want toinsult them, but you cannot buy
everyone you know a drink.
No, not tonight, not tonight.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
No, no people, yeah, and you don't want to insult
them, but you cannot buyeveryone you know a drink.
No, you can't.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So, for example, if you think a lady drink is like?
Depending on like walkingstreet or even in Soi Bacau,
it's minimum of 150 baht.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
130 is the minimum but yeah, or minimum 130.
If we're talking delirious,delirious is 130, for example,
no that's 150 now.
Now 150,.
They raise the price.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, they get 70 baht per drink now, I think.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay, that's maybe because of the low season.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Okay, I can understand that low season, yeah
, but you go around the bars nowand some are Empty, yes, and
you feel sorry.
You do feel sorry For the girls, you do.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You know I am Many times Like I've seen, so now my
Automatically go to Bar is 69.
You know that, yeah, yeah.
And like I know Everyone thereand some of the girls Like if I
come late they tell me listen,like that's my first drink, like
1 am, 2 am the first drink, sobasically, they sit there.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
They don't have customers, but the last week was
really good.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I don't know what's going on.
I think, like September broughta lot of new tourists here
because the bar was packed Eventhat night.
69 bar was.
Even that night 69 bar was yeah, no, you've been to peachy
before the same night, sorry.
Yes, yeah, and 69 was alsopacked everywhere.
Now is getting more livelyagain.
So, yeah, I think there is likea bunch of new tourists that
(16:58):
came.
You don't go out much, so youdon't see, I don't go out at all
.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That's the thing yeah , I know, I don't even go out of
my, of my room okay, so youneed to go out more.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
We need to take you out forceful, forcefully take
you out oh, you build you such abullshit, you know, she said
that, stop it, stop it.
And then she messaged me heyguys, you go out today, you go
out and she always message methe neck the day after.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I'm smashed that I out.
That's why, because I that dayI always the girl from the gym.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Oh, okay, and never go now we should.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
We should have a big night out today.
But we spoke, for example, withmichelle and michelle really
like to go to the walking street, the whole flex and boho, yeah,
and we said it's okay, but wecannot do that every time we go
out.
No, it's too heavy.
You know, once a week, onfriday, when it's packed and
it's like okay, but doing thatthree times a week it's cost a
(18:01):
lot of money.
It's take a lot of toll of yourbody also, like you are getting
the next day you cannot doanything, just sit in your home
like oh, sometimes it takes metwo days to sober up yeah, yeah,
I get that, I really get that.
And then like this way I preferonce a week like a big night out
and then during friday orsaturday, yeah, yeah.
(18:23):
So walking street is reallyactive on Friday.
This is like the most activeday.
So we try to make it FridayUsually.
Saturday sometimes is not thatthat good of a night, but the
thing I wanted to say beforeabout the spending.
So we decided as a group offriends that we stopped by drink
to each other.
It's, there is no point behindit.
(18:47):
Like I go with out, for example, yeah, I buy you drink, then
you buy me drink, and then it'slike a real cycle of.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I've been like back in the uk, why not go out with
friends, like.
But if say like, if there were,say like six of us or whatever,
we go in pairs.
Yeah, so us two, I buy one,them two, you know they buy
their own.
Yeah, I get that, so you're ina round with one person.
Yeah, but Because you know atthe end of the night if you go
(19:16):
say like six people, oh, it's myround, what you, oh, I don't
know.
Yeah, and he hasn't boughtaround it.
Yeah, or night, or something.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
You know, it's making some uncomfortable situations.
And also, like the other day,me and it was michelle, I think
we went to a bar.
We each had one drink becausewe wanted to move to another bar
, but we knew a lot of theladyboys over there and each
bill was about 700 for one drinkthat we had.
(19:49):
Because you feel uncomfortable,you know.
Oh, I know her and I promisedher last time and this is a nice
girl, oh, this is the new girlthey want to introduce to us,
you know, and we end up likepaying 700 for one drink,
basically, yeah, yeah, samething to me, like right now if
someone asks me to uh to jointhem, to soy sick.
(20:10):
It's just like nah because youknow everyone over there.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I don't know everyone , but sometimes like if I've
been there before and I havebeen by the good drink before, I
just awkwardly do not buy itagain, and somehow the girl
inside city will have good's.
Just awkward to not buy itagain.
And somehow the girl in Soy 6have good memory of their
customer Of course All the girlshave good memory of their
customers.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Do you like Soy 6?
I've not really been out.
I've been out twice, soy 6.
And you're living here for along time.
It wasn't for me you know, okay, why?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's interesting?
Because I have the same, thesame feeling about soy sticks.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I don't know it was just just no too much.
Yeah, they're too grabby, Imean my, my visa agents down soy
six.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Okay, one stop and uh if I have to, oh, it's the most
famous visa place in Badr yeah,most famous.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah, mark and Pom do a brilliant job.
Okay, yeah, you can give them ashout out, no problem.
Yeah, they do a brilliant job.
And yeah, sometimes I have togo well, drop my passport down
there for my 90-day report.
I go down there before 12o'clock.
Why don't you go do it yourself?
It's so easy.
I like to do it, they do it.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You just go give a high five and you know.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Hand over me passport and they do it, I go well,
Friday.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
He's on a retirement visa, obviously, but he said
something interesting to me theother day he's thinking about
living thailand.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
You spoke with me about that, um if, if things
start changing what they'resaying, what's gonna happen?
I, I would go and live invietnam.
My team, yeah, you know, do youknow?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
what he's talking about.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
It's just getting harder and harder, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
What is that about?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
to get shared it's just about having the 800,000
baht in your bank account forfour months.
Oh, like not using money.
There's no way I'm going to put18,000 odd pound in a bank
account.
I can't.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, you can't even count that hard?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Why?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
yeah, you can't even know that because this is the
requirement for the retirementvisa right now.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Oh so you have to prove four months before three
months.
Yeah, there's a lot of money tohave in a bank that money that
you cannot touch.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, I agree, I have some friend that like uh, not
even put money in the bank atall too yeah, but this is like
scams.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You know not scams, but this is like a go around,
you know yeah, I know that theycome up but for him he did it
yeah yeah, probably, it'sprobably not, you know but it
sucks because no point to putmoney in like that much in the
bank.
Yeah, but you need spend everyday thailand all like I I saw
the the news and they say theylose a lot of, like tourists
(23:07):
here and, like I think I sawlike nine or ten percent down
from last year, yeah, which is alot, yeah.
And the people that actuallylive here on retirement visa, on
the tv visa or whatever, why tomake, why you try to make their
life so much harder they areliving here, they are spending a
lot of money anyway.
The Thai government needs tokeep those guys.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
The truth is that foreigners can do much of the
business in Thailand anyway,even though it's so easy to open
a business here.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's not that easy.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Especially in this age.
Most people just work online,you know.
And they bring the money in andthey spend it anyway.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
They spend a lot of money here.
I mean it's not as if two-weekmillionaire, you know no of
course not.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I'm not saying that.
Yeah, no, no, I know thetwo-weeks millionaire.
You know that term.
No, so two-weeksaires are theguys that come here, especially
on the first or second time andthey like coming with a lot of
money.
But there are only two weekshere and they're spending huge
amounts of money that back homethey will never spend as much.
You know like we are talking200,000 for two months, for two
(24:16):
weeks.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Sorry, yeah, you know 200,000, but it's a lot of
money, or even more.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, or even more.
Yeah or even more.
So, yeah, the retirement guysor the dtv guys, they are not
spending as much, but it'sconsistent.
You know if you are looking howmuch they spend during one year
.
That's a lot of money forhousing, for going out for a
phone company, for bills,whatever yeah, yeah, when it's
like for the Thai people to livein Thailand, my own country.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
It's also been hard and been more expensive every
fucking year.
I mean my condo's over.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I pay one year upfront, all the time.
Wow, 113,000 baht.
I pay out Without deposit,that's with a deposit, oh, with
a deposit, with a 5,000 deposit,so 108,000, which is a lot of
money.
Which is a lot of money, butI'm paying that straight out
every year like every January.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
That's good.
I was thinking about doing that, but then we got to like we
thought about it and we wantedto rent like a big house and
like live as a roommate, which Iknow doesn't really make sense.
But me personally, I'm like Idon't like to be alone, you know
(25:35):
, I prefer to know that.
Yeah, it's not in my room butin the house somewhere.
Yeah, we also spoke with Ellie.
She might be our roommate.
So it's me, scott, and now weare searching the house and the
roommate.
We actually probably will gosee house next week.
You know where is the village?
I've heard of it do you know thevillage?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
no, I see some couple of house, a couple of houses,
but mostly like in the dark sidedark side has got some
beautiful houses and notexpensive.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I tell you more than that.
It's half the price, half theprice of what you pay in Pattaya
itself.
Right, I know that, the darkside, you get amazing houses
with pool with everything.
But let's be honest.
How many times would you usethe pool?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
ah, I'm in the pool every day.
Really, you would go every day.
I didn't now today, I didn't,but I was by the pool today, but
I didn't go in swimming.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Oh, okay, every day I I don't know how much I would
use that and the other thing isthat I really prefer the option
to walk around.
I don't mind to pay for theboat or whatever, but I want to
be able to just go out of myhouse and have something there.
You know, in the dark side,it's kind of still dead.
There are some bars over there,there are some gentlemen clubs,
(26:59):
mostly by the way, but it's notthe same.
Gentlemen clubs mostly by theway, but it's not the same.
So the village is on the thirdroad, just in front of the
hospital of the third road.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
The Pattaya City Hospital.
Yeah, that's very close.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yes, that's not far from me.
That's not far from here.
No, it is far from here.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It's a five-minute walk.
Five minutes to Cherpun, yeah.
But they're very close yeah andit's a nice place and they have
a pool, but not in the house.
They have the neighborhood pool.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That you can go to.
They share a facility.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It's not exactly that .
It's like a bar with a pool,but everyone in the neighborhood
goes there and it's reallyclose and the prices are
reasonable.
So a three bedroom house it'slike 10 or 12, something like
that.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
What do you mean?
10k yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
What?
10 or 12.
Yeah, my friend, she just movedfrom a three bedroom to a 4
bedroom and the 4 bedroom shepaid 15.
What?
in the middle of the city, yeahit's crazy and I hope I will
lock down the house before thisepisode go out so people will
(28:20):
know.
But the prices are good.
You need to know where to lookat and again, the best way and
people don't understand that inpattaya if you look online or
facebook, you will find thehigher prices.
Yeah, yeah, but if you knowpeople, that know people yeah
yeah, so in the village this ishow it works.
Everyone knows, oh, there is avacant house now and many people
(28:43):
come and see that house, youknow, and those are the prices
and it's amazing I think that'swhy the house in my, uh, my
brother village is like notreally winslet, it's uh okay
majestic.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
That's why the house.
Is that it's just on this uh,it's not so far from here.
You can drive more, moremotorbike from here, like, uh,
from tepid, like three minutes,okay, three minute or two minute
, and then it's not so far fromhere, not so far from you can
drive more motorbike from here,like from Tepesuit, like 3
minutes ok, 3 minutes or 2minutes ok and then it's like I
remember the house opposite sizeof of the house that I stay.
It's like one time it's like itgot empty, but at least for 2
(29:17):
days, and then people move inand then later I see like, oh,
and then later I see like, oh,the car is shang.
They shang the car.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
And then I asked my brother like oh, no, it's shang
han, the new, new rental reallyall the time it's so fast, it's
so fast in this, in around thisarea too, yeah and another thing
that is good about finding ahouse that is not like from a
company, because most of thehouses here are from like rental
companies no, no, not agents,rental companies that.
(29:46):
So they own like 50 houses.
So, for example, my friend thatlive in the village, they are
staying two people in one house,yeah.
And I asked her what about thebills?
How much you paid last time?
So first of all she explainedto me when she's there he's not
there, right?
So there is always one personin the house, so that means the
(30:10):
aircon is always on.
I asked so how much you pay forelectricity?
She say 700.
I said what the fuck?
It's so cheap 700.
And water, they pay 100.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
So the bills they don't use.
They don't use.
Do they have aircon?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
yeah, and she said the aircon is always on, always
on 24 hours 700.
So this means they charge us somany, so much money in those
condos or whatever, because theycan.
Yeah, and I you have to get,you have to like normally, like
in those condos or whatever,because they can.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
And you have to get.
You have to like normally, likeif I rent somewhere I always
like okay, I want to rent theone that don't charge extra,
normally like a Thai smallapartment it's already very
cheap, like under 5,000, 3,000,2,000, but they charge extra on
the electric though.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
So my electricity where I stay now is 8 baht per
unit, but she pay my friend inthe village.
They pay only 2 baht per unit.
Really, yeah, 2 or 3, somethinglike that.
So my electricity last timelast month was almost 2,000 baht
.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Is that possible?
Is that possible Because itsounds like the tea in the
village is like a house villageright.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
No, no, the place called the village.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, I mean.
Sorry, I used the wrong term.
I mean like the villa.
You call it the villa.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
It's not a villa, it's just a townhouse.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Oh, okay, but they don't have the electric bill
from the government bill.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I'm not sure but this is what you pay.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
It's a little bit too no.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I think the government minimum is three
points.
Yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
No, I said two or three.
I'm not yeah, yeah, but 700,.
It makes sense because if Ipaid, I'm paying eight per unit,
I'm paying 10.
You're paying 10, right, andyou're reaching 2,000 baht
electricity.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
My water is 27.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
So my water is fixed.
It's 200 per person, it's fixed.
But they pay per unit in waterand electricity.
Yeah, same as me.
So the water was only 100 bahtlast time.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
The water I'm not surprised.
Water is cheap.
Yeah, water, as me.
So the water was only 100, butlast time the water.
I'm not surprised.
Water is cheap.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, water is cheap, but 700 for electricity is
nothing.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, but I mean we probably like gonna use some
other than that.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Okay, let's say we are three people.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
One person in one house.
That means they probably gonnause like one room per house.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
They're not open like the aircon, yeah but I'm, I'm
living right right now in oneroom, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Thousand, that'd be separate room, three person in
one house right, but it's likeit is time time.
Three person is still cheap.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah.
So let's say 700 times three,it's still okay for you yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
So this is amazing and it's kind of furniture.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Most of the the house there are already furnitured,
so you don't need All furnished.
Yeah, so you don't needanything.
They have like washing machine,which is yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
That's the only interesting stuff.
Washing machine.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
No, it is Because I, for example, I don't own washing
machine here, and when I saythey don't have so I go to some
lady that do the laundry for me,which I pay a lot of money near
to my condo, not even have that, like I have to hand wash
because I lazy to walk out, no,no, not in my condo, oh really
too lazy so you hand washeverything so it's
(33:35):
cheaper.
You are not paying as much.
I pay like last time I took mywhole clothes.
I only had one shirt left, oneshirt.
I used the same underwear fortwo days.
Oh yeah, nasty.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Back and front, in and out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah so.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I took the whole clothes to the laundry lady and
I paid like 600 baht which isstill a lot of money.
Yeah, yeah, but you don't wantto pay as much, that much you
know.
I went with our aggressivefriends last time yeah, from 69,
she wanted to do laundry.
She did it on one of thoselaundry places, yeah Right, and
she paid.
The whole thing cost her, likeI don't know, 100 baht, 150 baht
(34:15):
.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
One time my bill from the laundry place is like can
call it up to like 2,000 bahttoo.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
But I get it, You're a lady.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
No, I mean like because I wait until, like okay,
my closet's empty and then Ihave like big shirt like this
but you have more clothes than Ido.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
How many shirts I have?
I have like 10 shirts, rightFew pants, only thing I have a
lot of is underwear and socks.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, that's it.
Like we are, men, we don't neednew outfits every time.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
For example, you, I never see you wear the same
clothes, never.
You always have soon.
Soon you will see I did not, Idid not bring much.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I like I ran out of the last chair in house with the
one back alley.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
So okay, like a few clothes okay, so this is the
situation that we are thinking.
We are thinking about moving inthe village, yeah, and our
ideal situation place will beactually four bedroom, because
we want an office, because alsome, scott and ellie we also have
like many work that we do fromthe computer, yeah, so if we
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have an office, yeah, it will begreat.
Yeah, so we are thinking aboutit.
But we can always create anoffice in the living room, it
doesn't really matter yeah, butno, I mean like a walking space
that sometime I can walk.
I'll explain to you what I mean.
Last time I had to do some work.
I had like four hours or fivehours of work I had to do, yeah,
(35:41):
about the podcast.
Yeah, yeah, and scott has hisown work that he had to do.
So he took his tablet and wejust went to some coffee shop,
you know, and we sat together,had few laughs, have had few
drinks, but working the wholetime, yeah, it's much easier to
walk like that than just sittingalone in your room, like you
know.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Even normally I just like lay down on the bed, have
laptop and then mouse, you justyeah, and then you find yourself
because there is no one there,you find yourself just watching
stupid youtube videos for likeoh, you have all the time and,
by the way, I can you know thatI gave you the laptop right.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I can see what you're watching.
You're watching crazy stuff.
Sometimes I see a youtube islike civil engineering, or what
happened when you put poopinside the water, it's okay, but
it's funny.
It's funny to see like I'm I'mlooking at what the fuck is she
(36:40):
watching?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
is it show on you?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I use, I use my youtube you use, but we share
the google earlier.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I don't use.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, we share the google, the home, the call.
So I see all the searches.
Now I don't think I'm stalkingme.
No, there is no come on youknow what?
There is no car, no, there isno phone, there is no nothing
interesting like that yeah justweird youtube.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, weird youtube videos yeah, if you go to my
search bar history, it's just ano, no, it's not a search bar.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
It's not like I'm looking what you're searching, I
just when I open chromeautomatically give you the list
of the last no, no list of thelast thing you watched, all
right yeah, same thing like.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I mean, like, if you really like want to look on my
uh history search bar, it's justall about game that's like
computer gaming and stuff likethat.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
By the way, guys, soon she's going to start
streaming oh, I dropped that whyyou dropped that I try, I try,
I try, I try one time, just forlike one hour okay but then it's
just I don't know I you do youknow what twitch is wait, I have
to explain to him Twitch.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So Twitch is a platform that people can go on
and live stream themselves,mostly while they are gaming, so
you can see what they areplaying, and then you can see
them also and they talk to theirviewer, to the people that view
them, and everything yeah, Ithink I want to do that.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I try one hour but then I stream on.
I forgot, okay, some platform,I forgot the name, but then it's
like just one person talking tome.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, but I told you, I told you in advance, this is
what will happen.
Yeah, so I told you.
I told you in advance, this iswhat will happen.
You have to.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, so I just want to learn how to record the game
screen and record myself at thesame time.
I will show you today how to dothat.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I will show you exactly what software you need
to do that.
I have the laptop here so wecan do that.
So by the way.
And then another thing.
So john used to be married to athai lady.
Oh yeah, for how many yearsagain, john?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
well, uh, we're still married 21 years technically
you're still married split upafter seven so yeah, 14 years
we've been split up, yeah, yeah,you hear it.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
So long time they are not together already.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, but they are still married.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Married, divorced.
Yeah, and she's in the UK andprobably, I think, probably and
he's here.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
I don't know, I don't know, not contact.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
What happened If you?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
don't mind, we just split, we just.
If you don't mind, we just Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
It happened, come on.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Nobody else involved.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, same with my.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Cape Town boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
He will watch it and he will curse me.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Your Thai boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
No, my Cape Town boyfriend.
See some people, they be likethat she go to those South
African guys.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
No, that's good People, they be like that.
She go to those South Africanguys no, that's good.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
That's good.
Oh, just like two days ago hewas calling me After three years
.
I cried why.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
What happened, what he wanted?
Just like to catch up.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, he just wonder how I'm doing.
He's just like yeah, he's nice,he's a very nice guy.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
We are still looking for a boyfriend.
Through the, through thepodcast, we want to find a
boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
We told the listeners like oh, yeah, if you don't
mind, you might not see me forlike a month or two, because I'm
going to be vegetable at home.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
They might be able to be a vegetable in home with you
.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, you need someone to be with you there.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be good.
Get a cat.
Get a cat is better than aboyfriend.
Well, something's not the same.
No, no, come on, no.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
We are not going down .
Not the same pleasure.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's different, it's different.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Well, me and you mostly go to the 80-boy bar, so
I don't know what we arethinking about having a pussy.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, sometimes.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Of course.
Of course I'm not saying, I'mjust saying that you know it's a
different environment.
I will say that, john, we wereasking last time the same
question to other people becauseI really want our listeners to
be able to enjoy our knowledgeof the places we know here.
(41:25):
So, in your opinion, right now,what are the best bars to go to
except of the bar next to yourhouse, because it's a small bar
to go to, except of the bar nextto your house because it's a
small bar?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
I mainly well go to the bar near my condo.
Yeah, I go, obviously Peachy,Peachy.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Lily in LK Metro.
You've been there, right?
Hmm, you've been in Peachy Lily.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Not sure.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Not sure it's a Ladyboy or Gogo bar.
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
We should take you there.
So, peachy, lily, not sure, notsure.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
It's a ladyboy, a go-go bar, maybe not Okay, we
should take you there.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
So, pitchy Lily, I've seen this Pog Bar.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Pog Bar.
Pog Bar, it's one of the onlybars I avoid, is it?
Yeah, because I tell you whythey are so hassle heavy over
there.
The moment we sit down,immediately there is someone
coming.
Ok, let's go to room, let's goto room.
And she is not letting go.
They really work on the shorttimes over there and it's kind
(42:25):
of like sometimes when you arewith the guys, like no, I will
not go to the short time it'sall about pressure yeah, ok, no,
I will not go to the short time.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Oh, it's on my pressure.
Yeah, yeah, say PG KIU, okay.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Delirious 69.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Bon Bal.
Yeah, fantasy sometimes.
Oh, fantasy is an interestingbar.
Yeah, cindy is delirious 69 bar.
And no, not Ladyboy Bar.
Duanji Duanjai oh.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Duanjai Duan bar and no, not ladyboy bar.
Do anji, do anjay, oh, do anjay, don't die, don't die, uh, gg.
So all the ladyboy bars?
He's just naming all theladyboy bars.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah, it's better fun , it's the best fun it is, it is
it's the best fun and lady bars, not really, not really, no,
sometimes.
The other day I went inTreetown, palm Beach.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Okay, yeah, I know that Palm Beach it's a nice
lovely place it is and they havelike big pool tables over there
.
Yeah, and they have the screenswhen they build the big screen.
You've been there.
It's like amazing they aredoing the killer pool the killer
killer pool.
You know the game, but what theydo.
(43:38):
They have two huge screens andthey have two tables big ones
and you see everything on thescreens the name.
It's very professional the waythey do the killer pool over
there.
It's like, I think, the mostprofessional place I've seen.
Yeah, but this is why it'spacked all the time.
This is the reason.
Yeah, so it's nice.
(43:59):
I don't like Killer Pool, in myopinion.
By the way, I just got thecards back.
You know what cards I mean.
You remember the card game weused to play in Delirious before
?
Yes, I got the cards back.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
From what you left them there, did you?
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, but I had more cards in other bars.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Oh right, so I placed some cards everywhere.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
No, that was good fun .
Speaker 3 (44:23):
So now.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
I put that in 69.
In 69?
Yeah, so even you can go ask ifI'm not there.
Hey, I want to play there andthey will join you.
You played that game with usbefore I don't think.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
so what card?
So it's a very interesting game.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
It's called Poker Pool, poker Pool.
So you get cards On the cards.
It represents the real balls onthe table.
What All the cards?
Each card shows you a ball fromthe pool table, so let's say
the 8 ball, the 7 ball, whateverright.
And each card show you a ballfrom the pool table, so let's
say the eight ball, the sevenball there, whatever right.
And each card have four copies.
(44:58):
And let's say the three of us,so each one of us get eight
cards, for example, and yourgoal is to get rid of all your
cards.
Each time a ball that you havein your cards go inside, you
take out the card okay, okay,how about, like we, we do that,
maybe next episode.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Okay, no, it could be fun.
No, you cannot play it here.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
You need a pool table , oh is it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you play itwith the pool, the cards and the
pool table, so you have a poolball.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
So much for my hair, Okay okay, okay, I need to say
it from like, from a real person.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
It's a really good game, that's how that's best.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I learn right.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I learn it when I do it and you can play up to 10
players.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
I think if she see the cards, she will understand
immediately.
Yeah, better idea.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, there is of mind games over there, because
me and you can have the samecard.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
So you could have three of the same cards, four of
the same cards and then youjust two balls and you won.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Okay, we will show you that next time.
It's interesting, it's fun.
So I got the cards back becauseI really I told you I don't
enjoy the killer pool.
It takes too long and peopleare just not very involved in
that game.
It's very singular game, youknow, even though many people
are playing.
Yeah, it's basically you'replaying against yourself, you're
(46:21):
not playing against anyone else.
Now you're playing how good youare at pocketing a ball and the
game that I'm speaking is verylike you have to go for that
particular ball, yeah but youplay with other, but you don't
want anyone else to know whatballs you have.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Okay, so it's more like a connection between yeah
everyone.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
You see everyone with the cards and hiding the cards
and like it's interesting.
So this game I know for a longtime from.
I didn't invent that game butmany people think I did.
You remember back theneverything.
Oh, that's Mike's game, that'sMike's game, but it's very nice.
So we will play that next time.
And I really like those kind ofthings because just sitting in
(47:05):
a bar and drinking all the timecan get boring.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
And then I also like very boring same game like
connect four checking, but Ilearned some.
And then I also, like I'm veryboring, like same game like
connect flow checking.
You know, oh, I fucking hatethat, but I learned some new
game.
Before I quit the job I learnedsome new game that I really
like.
It's like I don't I forget thename, but I think it's called
like Caught the Liar.
It's like it's with the diceright.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Okay, the checking dice.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
And then it's like, yeah right.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
And then it's like, yeah, but it's a different game.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
I think, yeah, but then it's like, uh, after you
shake, right, yeah.
And then uh, the first, it'sgoing to be like first person,
first person.
The example like this is my, myroute to.
To call Example, I say, uh,number dice, that's me.
Then the people can guess, youknow, like, if there's three of
(47:54):
the.
You say that no one see oh no,no, so it's like you try to lie
yeah, that's all like if, so, ifthe, if the someone say like no
, you lie, then I have to open,and then, if I don't, but
everyone have to open.
If I don't have three dice orfour, then I lose.
(48:15):
But sometimes it's like this IfI have one one, it counts as
any number.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Oh, and then three.
So number one can be six or canbe five, can be anything.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yeah, so even if I have like just one, one, only
one, but then other people havefour and then it counts more
than three.
I win.
So the person who says I'mlying.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
How many dice?
You have Four dice, Six, Six.
So the best thing you can getis six times one.
Then you can.
No one can like you say I havesix, six, you win.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
But like if the person who says I'm lying, but
after count all the table, Ihave it, and then he will take
out the dice, one dice, untilthe person who lose all the dice
first lose, oh, okay.
It's more long game, but I likeit better than short game and
it's more communicative.
So the winner is the last lastman standing basically okay,
(49:14):
normally we don't really, uh,yeah, yeah, the winner is last
standing, yeah okay, I, I, Iwant to tell that to the
listeners.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
So many of the bars if you've never been here they
have all sorts of games.
The reason they have thosegames is because some of the
girls don't speak very goodenglish or sometimes they don't
have too much.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
No, sometimes, sometimes they don't have too
much?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
no, sometimes, although they don't have too
many things in common, right, sothey cannot speak too much.
So the girls always bring gamesout.
So, as she said, connect four.
There are the dice games.
There are different dice gamethat we play normally, which is
actually gambling game the oneand six.
You know that.
Yeah, this is a dangerous gamebecause it's so quick and then
(49:57):
you lose a lot of drinks.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
I quite have a good.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
There is no skill there, you can.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
After you open, you can trip it like trick it.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
My friend.
She's very good.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
No, no, I mean not like trip it by hand, but for
the next round you can predicthow to check it to get the dice
you want.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah, but it's still not 100% skill, it's mostly luck
and most of the people just dothem three, four times put and
then they open and they have, ofcourse, pool and they have the
jackpot, how it's called.
I hate that game.
Yeah, I hate this game.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
this is so boring they can always start with that.
It's easy to understand.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
For them and, for example, I went to a soy bar soy
six bar before uh named soho.
You know ollie, he's going.
He went to Delirious many times.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah, I know him from Delirious.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
I've never been to his bar, so in his bar it's a
very game-heavy bar and mostlythe girls don't play the games
with you, but the bartenders do.
You have two bartenders andthey actually look alike, but
they are not sisters, but theylook very similar.
I think on purpose they try tolook similar to confuse people
(51:18):
and they have like 50, 60 drinksevery day just from the games
and they play everything.
Connect four and the fuckingcrocodile, yeah, yeah, all those
kind of games and this isactually a very smart way to
generate money without pushingthe customer to buy drinks.
Like hey, let's play a game,let's make it fun.
(51:39):
If you win, I buy you a drink.
If I win, you buy me a drink,like in 69 Bar.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
when I go in there you play pool play for a drink,
I'll go in there.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yeah, but sometimes you win and you get a drink
alcohol in it yeah, butsometimes you win and you get a
drink which is fair, which isfair in that way.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Yeah, I think so too.
Some people are just so scaredto play the game with the lady
which game Connect Four, becausethe ladies, of course they are
professional.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
No, not Connect Four.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Even just the shaking game Like guys so easy, just
pure luck.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Yeah, but I understand that some guys feel
they don't like to feelpressured to buy drinks.
This is actually a big, bigthing, because I understand the
girls.
The drinks are the biggest partof their salary, right, if they
are not making drinks, they arenot making money.
Right, it's not only about theshow time or the long time,
(52:35):
basically the sex.
No, it's mostly the drinks andit's they have to get a drink.
But for the customer, he'sthinking and I understand where
the customer coming from oh, Iwill see this in this bar now I
will spend two thousand baht fordrinks or I can just take
someone and fuck, because thecustomers want to fuck,
basically, and the girls wantthe drinks.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
So it's like it's a cat and mouse if I run it 50, 60
, 70 bar per drink.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
Well, you are drinking beer.
You are a beer guy.
I'm not drinking beer.
I'm drinking vodka andSchweppes, which is 150 or 120.
Yeah, or the Smile of Ice,which is the cheapest one is 100
and delirious, and normallyit's 130.
Right, although, although,although I have something
(53:24):
interesting to say.
So yesterday I went to somerandom bar that my friend.
She walks there.
She's a lady.
I know her many years, saw herbefore.
She's the lady next.
She have a bar next todelirious.
You saw her many times oh, yeah, you remember her.
So in her bar they selleverything for 55 baht beers 55,
(53:46):
you want, whiskey 55, vodka 55with mixer.
And I just told Scott, like weare wasting so much money on
getting drunk, we can just gothere drink as much as we can
Get drunk first.
Yeah, get drunk first and thengo to the other places.
You know it's much cheaper,yeah.
And he said like, yeah, you'reabsolutely right, because
(54:08):
normally I pay 150 baht for mydrink, which is still not a lot
compared to back home, I know.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
But when you are staying here every day and
drinking almost every day and atleast five, six drinks every
day, I like it like that Because, like example, like Sam when I
was in Bangkok, I like the playgame, you know like play game
before you go to the club.
You do like play game.
Play game time In Bangkok.
It used to the club.
You do like pre-game.
Yeah, yeah, in bangkok it usedto have like I don't know if
(54:37):
they still have it, because atsome point they start to don't
have a much of it.
It's called the ship charliebar.
Okay, yeah, it's just it's not.
You cannot even call it a barbecause like not really have
much seats, you know, comparedto like all the customers.
So, like everyone just go therefor play game until until like
10 pm and then we hit to the carokay and it's very cheap to
(55:00):
drink over it is it's so cheap,like same, like, uh what you say
, like around 55 60, yeah 50, 60, 70 baht.
That's it.
Yeah, but yeah.
But some girl also can be alittle bit like oh, you want to
date, honest?
No, I want to get drunk and Iyeah, for me.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
For me, for example, I don't like to drink in my room
.
I don't like.
I try to avoid that.
I don't have any alcohol in myroom because I think this is the
first step for alcoholism.
Yeah, when you are drinking inyour room alone, that's bad news
.
Yeah, and we know many guyshere that even before they go
out they get like smashed in therooms like having like half a
(55:40):
liter or whatever, and then theygo out.
By the way, even michellemichelle, every time before we
go out he have like five or fourdrinks in his room and I think
it's not like yeah, I've got noalcohol at all yeah and I, I
really prefer that because Idon't want to be dependent on
that.
I prefer to go out, but when wego out again we are paying more
(56:01):
.
So there have to be somebalance for that and I really
wish someone would open like,even like, let's say, a ladyboy
bar for example, which havethose kind of prices for drinks.
Then we will be there all thetime.
Like, if you go Dongjai now,which is the cheapest ladyboy
bar right now, you pay, I think,80 or 90 for a vodka right Over
(56:26):
there.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
The beers are always cheap there also.
They are like 65, I think.
Yeah, I always drink San MiguelIn Dongjai, always cheap there
also, they are like 65 I thinksan miguel in dong jai I think
it's 65, for, yeah, it's notexpensive, yeah, no, it's not.
So it's much better to havethose kind of prices and then
you will stay there longer.
You remember we spoke last timeabout the thing that if you go
to a cheap place, sometimes youeven spend more than you would
spend in other places becauseyou think, oh, it's so cheap, I
(56:51):
can.
Yeah, I can afford it, yeah,yeah, so I really maybe we can
do it together open that kind ofa ladyboy bar oh, there's a
cheap charlie, yeah, cheapcharlie ladyboy bar.
That can be nice.
Yeah, we call it.
I don't have a name likecharlie.
What is the female version ofcharlie?
Speaker 2 (57:14):
a name like charlie.
What is the female?
Speaker 1 (57:16):
version of charlie.
Uh, half for sure they havesomething that sounds like that.
Do you have an idea?
No, I don't like john.
I will say joanna, for example.
So charlie will be likecharlie's, I don't know.
So you call it the cheapcharlie's bar.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
You guys can give us ideas we might open maybe one
day you fight us off in the bartogether and, as I see, we have
to close to finish this episode.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
So, first of all, john, I love you, brother.
We always have so much fun andwe were supposed to do another
kind of episode today, but it'sstill.
It was interesting.
I think we shared a lot of likereal raw stuff today, yeah, you
know.
Yeah, no filters, no, nothing,just explaining the experience.
So, thank you for coming backand I we also have some plans.
(58:07):
Might be next sunday we have todecide.
Yeah, because he has somefriend that he wants to bring to
our podcast.
He said a very interesting guythat we we can set up.
So you guys might have anotherinteresting episode with john
soon.
So, thank you, thank you, uh,anything you want, yeah, yeah,
yeah, sorry, sorry okay, thankyou, you guys, for listening,
(58:40):
listening.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
What is that listening?
And don't forget to like andsubscribe, yeah and, as she said
, like, subscribe.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
And again, I want you to ask you guys to at least
check.
You don't have to do anythingbut go to the patreon page.
This is the way we can havethis podcast over here.
And I want to thank also fox3,the studio which this is the
place we are doing this podcast.
It's in teppercit market hey,teppercit road, sorry, not
(59:11):
teppercit market.
I will leave the link againbelow for you guys.
You can contact them.
So thanks you, fox streetstudio and we will see you next
time.
Thank you.
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