July 25, 2025 • 57 mins
The veil is lifted on Pattaya's notorious nightlife as we welcome two fascinating guests to share their unfiltered perspectives from opposite sides of the bar industry.
Meet Fem, a 19-year-old ladyboy with just over a year in Pattaya who candidly discusses her initial shock at bar expectations and her growing online cam show business. With remarkable self-awareness, this shy, introverted performer explains how she's navigating this dual career path and saving for independence while dealing with the realities of her chosen profession.
When Ellie joins the conversation, we're treated to a rare perspective from someone who entered bar management directly from the corporate world. Following heartbreak, this articulate businesswoman now manages "Wet Pussy Bar" (yes, really) and shares fascinating insights on staff recruitment, bar operations, and how she specifically targets women from different Thai regions based on their appeal to various customer demographics.
The discussion expands into a revealing analysis of Pattaya's changing landscape. The once-dominant Western tourist has been supplanted by Malaysian, Chinese, and Indian visitors, forcing businesses to adapt their entire approach. The formerly common "mixed bars" featuring both women and ladyboys now barely exist, with establishments increasingly specializing to survive in this evolving market.
From high-end "throne-seated" cigar lounges charging 50,000 baht per smoke to secret bars requiring special entry codes, we explore how Pattaya's entertainment scene continues to transform while maintaining its infamous reputation. Whether you're curious about Thailand's nightlife or fascinated by the economics and sociology behind this unique industry, this episode offers genuine perspectives from those living it daily.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai wife
podcast.
I'm Mike and sadly I'm doing itwithout two people today, so
without my lovely, lovely wifeSunari, and without Pim that is
unable to join us today.
It was a bit of a weird daytoday, so many of the guests
(00:21):
late and stuff like that, andalso we're doing back-to-back
recording today, so you mightsee us with the same shirt, same
hats.
So we will see.
But I have one of the mostprettiest guests I had and the
youngest actually.
We have Fem here.
Fem, how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I'm doing good and you.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I'm always good.
How are you enjoying our lastnight yesterday when we went out
and partying?
To be honest, so drunk toodrunk, really, but you didn't
drink too much.
No, yeah, you throw up a littlebit, but it's okay, it's
happened.
But we started the night likeso I will not say to the
(01:06):
listeners where you work,because I don't want everyone
come and looking for you, but westarted at Yorbar, right, and
then we moved to three otherbars.
Two other bars.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Three.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We went to Yorbar.
Then we went oh right, therewas a party at Mina.
Then we went to 69.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
69 bar and then at Mina, then we went to 69 69 bar
and then to Cindy's and then wewent straight to walking
straight, yeah to flex, yeah,you like flex yes, why I like
hip-hop?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
just because of your the music, not because they let
ladyboy automatically inside.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
No, you not care about this really.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Normally the places let you inside without a problem
yes because they think you area lady no so why?
How come?
For you they are not makingproblem and for someone else yes
?
secret there is a secret, okay,can you let us on the secret so
we can help our lady boyfriendsto go inside.
(02:05):
It's not possible.
Yes, maybe after the podcastyou can tell me.
So I know your story a bit.
Okay, we are not going toelaborate the whole thing, right
, but you're very, very young.
You're 19 years old right now,yes, and you're staying in
Pattaya.
Since how many years?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
One year and two months.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
So when you'll be 18, you come here, yes, and you
start working.
Yes, okay, and was it like abig shock for you all, this bar
scene and customers and drinking?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
When I was here for the first time, to be honest, I
was shocked that why I have tosell sex service.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Why to have To sell sex?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
service.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Oh, why you have to sell sex service.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I asked many ladyboys .
They work long time and I askwhy we have to kiss the customer
, have to talk, have to gooutside with them.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You don't have to do.
You can say no, I have period.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Just ask, just kiss God, I'm due.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
In that time.
So then I know I do.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, but basically you not do it for fun, you do it
for money.
Yes, at the end of the day younot care about the customer.
I mean, you care about them,but not as much as, oh, I like
him and I want to have sex withhim or kiss him or whatnot you
care about.
He pay the drinks for you.
So you get your commissionright.
How much the commission in yourbar?
(03:48):
so for every drink, how much youget 50 50 baht for everything
that he buy for you, not that hebuy for himself, and he paid
the bar.
Fine, right.
And then he pay for you, andthis you decide later, right,
how, how much he paid for you.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Normally you're not talking about this in the bar,
okay and then you start gettingused to it or you still think
why you have, why I have to dothis.
I don't know, I'm alone.
Have no money?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, no, I have no home no family, you're just by
yourself, struggling andfighting the world, right, okay.
But you are still young and Ithink, like, okay, I will ask
you some kind of personalquestion.
Right, you are saving money forthe future, like, if you get,
let's say, this month, you makeI'm just saying 50 000 baht you
(04:45):
save a little bit money, yes,okay, so you're not just
spending everything on drinksand partying and food.
Well, you're so skinny, I thinkyou don't eat too much, but
about everything else you're notspending that much.
No, okay, and what?
Like?
What is your plan for?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
the future.
For the future, I have plan torent a condominium.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And work.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
You can say everything here.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I want to work on camshare website, so doing a cam
show.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yes, still, it's like selling sex, right, but at
least you don't have to touchthe customers.
Okay, and you did it, sex right, but at least you don't have to
touch the customers.
Okay, and you did it before,right?
Yes, and I know a bit like howmuch you did and where you did
it, because you explained to mealready and it's very
interesting.
But in the end of this episode,of course, we will tell the
(05:39):
listener your website and ifthey want, they can go to your
website and give you some money,but that's up to them and you
separated.
You start doing it by yourselfalso, right, and like you think,
because have many people thatdoing cam shows many, many, many
, many.
What's special about you?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
like what lady boy you?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
are a lady boy, but have many lady boys that do come
show also.
You think you're the only ladyboy in the world that doing come
show.
No, so when I say what'sspecial, like what you do,
different from other people,different like maybe you talk
with the guys more on the chator maybe you do special requests
, or I don't know, like, what isspecial about you, why people
(06:26):
want to pay you.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Of course you're beautiful, but on the cam is
like a.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I'm a shy girl, but when they send money I show
everything so you just like havea contrast between oh, I'm so
shy, shy, shy and then moneynaked, naked.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
My character is shy, but when he come he's good.
So people on camp think me likeshy, have to send some gift or
something.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So why not?
You go for the nerdy girl?
Why not wear glasses?
You know, you know what I mean.
Some people like it and youknow shy and nerdy sometimes go
together.
Not my style, Not your style.
So what is your style?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Just like that.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Regular Okay, and you're still doing this, right,
or now you have a break a littlebit.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Still doing.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Okay, and I know that you told me you have some
problem with that website before.
Yeah, for some reason theyblock you.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yes, because I send a personal contact to Kazuma.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So basically you send him your phone number or maybe
your email, something that youare not allowed to give them,
and then someone reports you orthey see it automatically, and
then they just block you.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
No, the website check .
Oh, the website itself checkyeah.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Okay, and how long you've been blocked.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Only six days.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Only six days?
Oh fuck it, it's nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Because I sent email to them.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I know how to express yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Of course, you know how to write.
You have to work in the chat.
Listen, as many times I spoke,even with Michelle, about this
what you do in the camera is theeasy part.
But then you have to chat inand you have to send message and
to promote.
This is the hard work, likesitting in front of the camera
and just jerk off.
This is the easy job.
I think so.
I'm not doing it myself, butyes, you're right.
(08:25):
Okay and you're doing any kindof promotion Like do you have
Instagram, twitter, like X,whatever, or just this website?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Instagram only.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So only Instagram and this website?
Yeah, and in the Instagram youalso publish about this website.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, and what do you think?
Like you said, your plan is, asyou said, to rent a big
condominium, right, and thenhave special room just for this
and many cameras, and sometimesyou will bring your friends or
you want to do it alone I wantto do it alone, only alone, no
(08:58):
friends.
Yes, okay, that's interestingand you have like costumes, you
change costumes and stuff likethat and they are.
Sometimes you get requests fromreally what kind of like
interesting, not something weird, just interesting that you get.
What interesting request youget before so request mean like
(09:21):
they ask you oh, I want you towear this or do like this from
Cuba on my ass.
I meant about outfit, not aboutwhat to do, like this.
Like they ask you maybe to wearlike nurse or well, no, they're
not talking about this.
Just they want you to put stuffup your ass.
This is the only thing thatthey care, right?
Okay, well, I think you're kindof used to it after working in
(09:49):
a bar about a year and a half.
And what about the bar?
Like, they know you do that, no, so it's a secret.
So now everyone will know.
Oh, you're a very brave girlfor telling them, and so I know
also because you do that work.
Sometimes you just go to yourown bar and just barfing
(10:10):
yourself because you don't wantto work too much, right?
Yes, you don't miss, like thepeople no I don't mean the
customer.
Like you don't have friends inthe bar.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I have friends in the bar but I don't know Like
introvert person.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You are introvert.
Okay, you know, it seems likeit.
Like yesterday you were theresinging and having fun I'm drunk
Just because of the drunk, ifnot, you are actually really a
shy girl.
So you are not acting as a shygirl in front of the camera.
You are a shy girl, right?
Not shy so introvert is notlike shy just you like to be by
(10:55):
yourself.
That's it okay.
And I know that you live aboveyour bar, right, they give you
room and they give you some food.
Sometime you just go live thereand stay in this bar because
you have free room, free food.
This is the only reason yesokay, they accept foreign also.
I can also go live there forfree and get food for free no,
(11:18):
no.
I can walk in the bar, I candance everything.
You see me yesterday.
They will not take me.
No way for me.
Okay, I will need to ask yourboss.
Maybe she will say yes, maybeshe likes me.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
No, impossible, impossible.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Why?
Because I'm not a nice person.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Because you're not young.
Who works at a bar?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Because I'm not a ladyboy.
Yeah, okay, and your bar isonly ladyboy bar, right?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
No mixed.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Mixed, but every time we go there I never see ladies
over there.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I have ladies.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
One lady.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Not one Four.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Four ladies.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
And how many ladyboys ?
About 30.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, so it's not really mixed.
It's a ladyboy bar with fewladies and I have actually a
good question about this.
Lady and ladyboys when theywalk together, they can be
friends or sometimes have someproblems about this.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Can be friends.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So normally it's not an issue Like there is no like
competition or stuff like thatbetween them.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
No.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Okay, because I know there used to be a lot of mixed
bars around and I know it's nota thing anymore.
It's like maybe sometime yousee a girl bar with 12 girls and
maybe one lady boy, just forthe fun of it, you know.
But when I asked them, when I,for example, when I spoke with
(12:52):
69 bar, right, I asked the ladyboys over there, like why?
Why it's not mixed?
They say because lady and ladyboy, this is just fake to each
other.
Ladies are just fake to ladyboys.
They always, always say oh welike you, you're my friend, blah
, blah, blah, but inside they'renot.
Really, is this true?
I?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You don't know, like your best friends are ladies or
ladyboys.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
My best friend is ladyboy.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Okay, and you have lady friends also.
Yes, back home in a bar only inthe bar back home.
You have no one really no oh mygod, it's so sad, it is, and I'm
sorry to hear that.
And like, would you think ifyou find like a bar that let you
(13:40):
work your own thing, like let'ssay he tell you, oh you have
just, you can be like only two,three hours every day and then
you can go do your own thingwith the cam show, would you
still consider walking in thebar or you just sick of it
already?
I don't know you're not thinkingabout this really okay, because
(14:04):
I would think like well, I'mnot you right, I'm a different
person and for me I do need thecompany.
I like to be around otherpeople.
I like to not drinking so much,but I like to be around other
people.
One second, we have one moreguest joining us.
(14:25):
If you can give him amicrophone, please?
Yeah, guys, we have unexpectedsurprise.
Well, kind of expected becausehow this day went, but we have
Michel here.
Soon you will be able to seehim and hear him, michel how's
(14:47):
you doing, brother?
I'm good, yeah, you can comehere, sit next to Fem, okay,
okay.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
First say hi.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
How are you doing, brother?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, hello, how are?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
you doing All good.
She was just explaining about,first of all, her business, her
side hustle.
You know what I'm talking about.
Oh, yeah, the online thing.
The online thing, yeah, and howmuch she don't like the bars
actually.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, I think she make a smart decision because of
the….
Speaker 1 (15:16):
We have another guest joining us.
Oh, perfect timing.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Everybody come at the same time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's okay.
No, but I think she actuallymakes a good decision because
now she makes more online thanshe actually makes in the bar,
especially now in the low season.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, the low season obviously affects.
You feel the low season now.
You feel like you're makingless money.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yes, less money Last year.
I came here this month also,but it's not quiet like this.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Hello, how are you?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
doing Everyone.
This is Ellie, my friend Ellie,how are you doing?
Good, so this is Michel Nice tomeet you, and this is Fem.
And we were just talking aboutthe lousies season how she can
feel the effect of it, becauseshe walk in a bar.
It's actually, she told meright now, it's a mixed bar.
(16:13):
You knew that, no, so it's amixed bar.
You cannot say the name of thebar, but it's a mixed bar, okay,
yesterday there was me womanthere had some.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I only see like the one behind the bar, but I saw
all the other ones, likeladyboys or not had oh wow, she
said 4 lady.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Ok, 4 lady and 30 ladyboys.
So I thought it's not really amix.
But come on, yeah, yeah, but ifthey still have a few ladies.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
so it's kind of a mix right, even if it's not equal,
but at least they have some,because usually the ladyboy bars
have just like ladyboys andmaybe behind the bar have like a
girl or something.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, like a cashier yeah cashier or mama's son or
whatever right, and if we'retalking about cashier, we have
Ellie.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Oh yeah, I do quite like all positions in the bar.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
All positions, all positions.
I experience all positions.
Yeah, but you are not workingas a staff, right?
No, no, yeah, and would youlike to say the name of your bar
, or you don't have to?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, I don't mind, but the thing is, your boss can
say the word, that word.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You can say whatever you want, Okay so.
Fuck cunt asshole.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
So, at first, the bar that I work for is Nympho.
It's the same owner, nympho.
My two friends own the bartogether.
Oh okay, first one is Nympho.
Yes, and now I'm working on theWet Pussy.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Wet Pussy Bar yes, okay, that's good.
Same owner?
Wait, wait, I want to know.
This is like a qualification.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
You have to wear it Well you need to clarify the
name of the bar.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
No, no, you don't have to.
No, I'm joking.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
But sometimes I just interview customers.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And how long do you work there?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
We opened last year, August.
Ok With the first bar, but weperceive it just opened this
month.
Oh, only the no we already havethe bar.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So the first one was really good, right, so that's
why they decided to open thesecond one.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
No, it's more like my friend bought like two units oh
okay.
So we sell the contract to theother people to open the Wet
Pussy.
And then now we just have achance to take it back.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, because it was not running well then.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, they don't do so.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, Okay For me it's just funny that she said we
sell the contract for someoneto open the wet pussy.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I know it's so funny.
The name.
We just sell the pussy contract.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And the previous owner from where they're from.
They're foreigners or they're?
Thai yeah, they're foreignersFrom which country they're from
the last guy.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
He's kind of like half Russian.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Yeah, the first guy is Austria.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
All right, oh, okay, now I understand why you were so
busy the past months.
Yeah, because we just startopen and have to change many
things.
You think it's better to openin low seasons than you did now.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
The thing is, I do quite well, so I don't really
mind.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, because it's O6 , right, you still get the
traffic over there how manygirls working in the bar.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
At the moment.
Right now, I have less than 15.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
15,.
Okay, but it's a normal unit,right?
It's like a typical size of thebus Single unit.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah, yes, like similar size to this one, but
when I first start I have four,four, ladies.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, I know in the beginning, the body has not been
really running well right.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Yeah, when it has less girls, do you like attack
less attention?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
yeah, so people like walking in very film yeah,
because if you have like 15 thechains that someone passed by
and it's the type of girl whatyou're looking for is the chain
is bigger, right, yes, okay, umit's just because, like the last
last week, that doesn't havelike heavy, yeah, like front of
my house flooding.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
It's flooding like up to my knees, but then it's also
raining very heavy insideNympho.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So they have problem with the ceiling.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yes, water leaking like a waterfall.
So now, at the moment, we closeNympho and renovate with the
ceiling.
Yes, so it's water leaking downlike a waterfall.
Yeah, so now at the moment, weclose Nympho and renovate and
then all the girls come to workif we're perceived, so you need
to fix it.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Okay, not that it's happened by the next heavy rain.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, okay, no, but it sucks, like you have to.
Just you just open a new oneand then you have the problems
keep on coming.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, but better now in the low season than in the
high season.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I would say yeah and also it's perfect time, because
we just opened up the WEPUSI, soevery staff can just work at
the WEPUSI.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So you bring all the staff from the other bar to the.
So now it's how many ladies?
Now Like 30 ladies.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
No, as I said, now I have like 15.
Like at front.
You also have to separate.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah for two bar ladies okay, okay, and can I ask
you, like each bar, in myopinion, normally I don't go soy
six much.
I find it a bit of a hassle.
You know, it's a bit moreexpensive and the ladies are a
bit more aggressive and theother floors are a little bit
different.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, no more aggressive and the other flowers
a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
No, not not in every bar, but normally like if I want
just to cross the street,people will just grab me on yeah
, I can say like it more highercompetition.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yes, because I have more lady in this actually go
inside.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
What I wanted to ask you what like everybody have
some concept, what the conceptof your bars, I don't know, like
what makes you different fromthe other bars.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
That's hard to answer , so you have, maybe like only
young girls, or it's like aroundNot really.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
But I can say like we are very chill and fun.
Maybe some bar, some place yougo.
They're kind of like a hot-sell.
Yeah, drink, drink, drink drink, but normally my bar is more
like chilling.
We can just come play gameschilling and all my girls know
the games.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So you're not annoying the customer for drink
again and again.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
No, but I do play the games with them, still buying
drinks, but Do you have a?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
pool table in your bar or it's just like the normal
games.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Normal table game and I kind of have like weird girl.
Sometimes they don't need drink, but they're just already
dancing in front of the bar.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
That's good, that's actually good.
And how long it took you?
Because I know another bar thatwas opened kind of recently in
sorry japan.
They opened and they said, oh,it will be a big opening, big
opening, big opening.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And they cannot get ladies, like for two months oh
actually it's a ladyboy bar, butstill they cannot get anyone
like for almost two months orthe one they try to do like kind
of a gentleman club in it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, I saw just the advertisement on Facebook or on
social media and I just saw theyhave maybe four or five.
Yeah, I never saw the ones thatthey have, and it's a gentleman
bar, so it's open very early,yeah, and it's like behind
closed doors, right?
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
yeah, yeah, so you don't really see it closed doors
, right.
Yeah, when my friends startopening, right, I try to be like
this recruiter because I don'twant to go work every day.
But then I also have problem onthe fighting the girl.
But then, especially now, I seethe low season, the opening
high season and then now itloses you, right.
So, especially like now lowseason, many girl, they just go
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home.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, take a rest, because they see it's not really
like they're not making money.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, not so much right.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Because we have more like the locals and not so many
tourists, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
So like the girls some girls they work in Pattaya
for a long time, so they knowlike there is low season, they
just go home and come back inthe high season.
So I think that that's alsocausing it's hard to find the
people to work.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
But only in the low season, or is it in the high
season?
And also difficult because youhave so much competition and
they go to other bars so it'shard for each bar to find the
right amount of ladies.
Or is it more easy in the highseason actually to get them?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I feel like it's easier to get them in the high
season.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
What do you do as a recruiting Like, how do you
recruit them?
Do you go around the socialmedias or you go around the bars
?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
No, I just go around the social medias because I feel
like every city they have likegroup like the bar, the bar
working group, and then the ladywill go in there maybe they
post like, okay, I'm looking forthe job and stuff like that and
I also like joining like nearbycity, okay, yeah, and also some
city that I feel like, oh, thegirl very hot, so I have to join
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that group on this, that city,okay, and then just post.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
um, yeah, that's nearby city, so rayong chunburi,
bangkok and uh another one.
Yeah, another one that I reallywant to get a girl from is Khon
Kaen and Korat.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Why from them?
Why not go from Sisaket andBuriram?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Korat.
Oh, this is the reason.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
This is the reason.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Well, that makes sense yeah, and kong kian goes.
I have a few friends in inbangkok that is from kong kian
and in I feel like they justthis is where they have
something, okay, yeah I, I thinkthat's like I understand what
you're saying.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
You have like a touch .
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It's something that you think, oh, maybe they have
that special spark that I needto my bar you know yeah because
actually there is a differencebetween the provinces, you know
yeah, and I think if you comefrom the same city, same like us
, right?
So if someone would come frommy hometown even I don't know
him I would immediately feellike a deeper connection because
, yeah, but she's talking aboutvibe.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
She said like the girls from Konken have a special
vibe in them, you know yeahokay yeah, like I feel like if,
uh, my bar is more like attachedto european, american, european
, okay, not like, not like asiantype, but okay, yeah, but uh
come on if if an asian groupcome, you will try to grab them
anyway oh, I will tell them tolike drag them.
(26:24):
At least drag them in for me, atleast you know.
But the bar for Asian people, Iwill feel like I will find a
girl from Chiang Mai, becausewhite skin.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, I was going to say that.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
But like Isan side, like North East, they have like
dark skin sharp face.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
The foreigners from the Western countries like it
more the tan skin and everything.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Chiang Mai also usually like taller one right.
I never noticed a highdifference.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Oh really, yeah, I don't really see my like tall.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I just want to know if it's true or not.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I don't really see my like tall Chiang Mai girl.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
More like with the white skin.
Yeah, white skin.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
My experience with them actually Minimal size like
easy to carry size.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Easy to carry, easy to pack.
Easy to carry?
Yeah, easy to pack size.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I actually noticed something different.
I noticed that the girls thatcome from Chiang Mai, chiang Rai
, all the northern areas, aremuch more relaxed.
It's like a different vibe.
It's like they come from thevillage and not the city, you
know.
They are much more calmed down.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Okay, they want like they fucking love gardening and
stuff like that, and it's notone or two that I met, right, so
everyone has a little bit likeit's very chilled vibe, so then
it's matching to the vibe thatyou actually want to have in the
bar, because you say, yeah, buta little bit like crazy, I like
chaos, you like chaos I morelike chaos yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
So you need to bring them from Booyah, when sometimes
the girls just see like dancingout nowhere on top of the table
, just like you don't even drinkyet and you're like yeah, yeah,
I like this song and they'relike oh okay, you are the right
girl.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I want to ask you a personal question.
So I know you from our mutualmutual friend, mark right?
And he owned the sober bar.
I just named it.
So you guys, if you want tocheck it out, it's in seo, japan
, and I didn't ask you thisquestion until now because I
thought it's really interestinghow come you speak such good
english?
Speaker 4 (28:21):
uh, because your english is amazing, for the time
when I was like 17, yeah, 17 or18, I had like a two-month
break from high school.
So my aneurysms are interestingjust in English music.
I try to remember myself.
So she had a friend open acompany I don't want to say the
(28:43):
name, it's an English companyand then so she sent me there
for just on the two-month break.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Sent you where To.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
England, no, no, in Bangkok, oh, in Bangkok, in
Bangkok, and then when I bethere, I have no friend in
Bangkok.
I don't know anyone, I don'tknow anything about Bangkok.
Never come to in my life and inmy company.
No Thai employee I'm the firstone.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Oh yeah, so like I have to learn very harshly, very
quickly also.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Yes, yes, so.
And then when I finish twomonths I decide to stay.
Not go back to school, justwork in the office.
So like my English that jumpfrom like see one, one percent
to same like now okay, yeah, no.
So this means also you havelanguage skills like you're very
good uh, I can say like it'sjust like I'm very interesting
in it, so it's like it's easierwhen you're interesting, of
(29:34):
course, yeah, and it's like yeah, and also when you're young,
right?
yeah, especially, yeah,especially, like when you not
really can use your own languagebecause in the office I hang
out with them, myco-workerworkers.
Right, go eat, go out, go party, everything together.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I do everything with them.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
So yeah, because I only know them, so I don't have
to use it all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
How long you actually was working in the office.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
In that office for three years.
Oh, wow, yeah.
And then after that because Idon't have the study certificate
, right.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Okay, so mostly the diploma.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah, mostly I would just jump to another company.
It would be just a foreignercompany.
Foreigner company, yeah, okay.
So that's how I became a nurse.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And what made you come all the way here to Pattaya
?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Oh, heartbreak, yeah, Heartbreak, really, yes, yes
For one of the foreigners.
You fell in love with oh,heartbreak, yes, heartbreak,
really yes, for one of theforeigners you fell in love with
.
Yes, I never date Thai, so butit's not really like heartbreak,
more like I break his heart.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
You also?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
fell in love, not him .
Speaker 4 (30:40):
We lived together for past to the COVID.
It's been long time.
You know it's like it's, but Ifeel like the love is not
growing anymore.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It's kind of like you mean wait, you mean during
covid, you felt it went down.
Think about it being stuck athome with the same person all
the time with his farts andeverything you know.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's kind of hard for me for me today it's already
hard okay, I'm joking it.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
I'm not going to say it's hard, I don't think he's a
good guy, but it just feels likeit feels no more exciting.
We kind of talk abouteverything we know each other
too much.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You just say okay, I don't want.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
We just sit down and talk.
Yeah, I feel like we shouldstep back.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
So you used to live with him in Bangkok.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
No, I changed the city a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
It's very confusing oh it's interesting, it's not
confusing.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I met him in Rayong.
Okay, yeah, I met him in Rayong.
And then, before we even know,covid going to hit.
But we heard the news Like, oh,now he's have the flu, break,
break down, break out Something.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
But we heard the news like, oh, now he's had the flu
break break down break out, youknow.
Something strange from China.
Yeah, yeah something strange.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
And then I get offered the job from Bangkok.
So I tell him like oh, I'mgoing to go.
That time we did like just twomonths.
And he just decided like okay,I come with you.
So he just moved his job tofollow me and then COVID hit
hard Okay, so when you arrivedin Bangkok or you guys were
(32:12):
still in Royong.
No, when I was already inBangkok, and then his company
also, like, dumped him out.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Because of the COVID, because of the COVID Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
But they did not like tell him.
Yeah for me, it was also likewhen I work online.
It was like lot of lay-outsback then.
Yeah, for me, it was also backthen when I worked online.
It was like I had an impact.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yeah, that's how the online job is more popular too.
That's why he found an onlinejob too.
So when he got an online job,he just moved to another city
more countryside.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Okay, yeah, and then you just said I want to make
money in Pattaya.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Or you like the scene , you like the party in here.
No, I just break up with himfirst and then later I just look
like where my friends are.
And then my friend, the ownerof the bar.
Now they are in Pattaya, soit's just like, okay, maybe I
can go there.
When I was working in Bangkok,every weekend I like to come to
Pattaya, so maybe I will like ithere.
So that's how is it very simple.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
So actually you never walked as a bar girl no, never
okay, yeah, that's interestingbecause normally I think it's
not the first time but thesecond time I heard, because
normally what happened?
The bar girls start walking andif they are reliable and a bit
smarter, than the other.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
then they can grab the rent, then you get this kind
of position, right when she hada boyfriend and then she
decided, oh, okay.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I don't want to work.
Yeah, they want to open the barand stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
And you don't think you're lacking the experience in
order to understand the?
No, I mean to understand whatthey are going through.
You feel you're lacking thatexperience.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yes, at first I'm very scared.
I thought I'm still workingwith my own company, right?
She already like I already knowshe's going to ask me to join.
When she said, oh, I will,finally, I'm going to open the
bar.
After talking about it for likeyears, two years I said like
okay, and she's like you'regoing gonna come here.
(34:09):
But I don't think so.
But then at the end I feel like, uh, she said like yeah, it
would be the recruiter.
It's like not that hard, youdon't have to come every day,
you can just come to hang outsometime.
And one thing she said that isa little bit like yeah, I think
it will be fine, because whenI'm working in the company, when
I get bored, I still come toSoy6.
(34:29):
So, as a customer, so why notjust enjoy the business?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So you do like that environment, you do enjoy the
partying and the drinkingenvironment in general.
Yeah, like when I saw you thefirst two times, you were very
drunk, like you were extremelydrunk.
No, no More drunk than anyone Isaw before.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Okay, yeah, you come to see me in the pot.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Maybe see me on the party day no, you came with mark
to our friend bar, to deliriousbar, and I met you there.
It was, I think, during a songrun, oh Okay.
I don't remember that Of courseyou don't remember that you
were a student at the bar?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Oh yes, Well, if I go out, I go hard, you know.
If I don't go out, I just stayhome, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
So, but you don't have to work like every day,
right?
If I understand it correctly atthe beginning.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
At the beginning no.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I mean now and about it's supposed to be like that.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
But then at the end you just kind of like At the end
I changed the position from therecruiter and then later become
the mamasan.
Okay, but then also.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I need to do yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
And I need to do the cashier as well.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Bart, you're doing pr also all the promotion online
and stuff like this.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
So this is more like it helping, okay, yeah, more
like they're helping, but uh,right now in the wet pussy, uh,
I do.
It's so funny.
The name is funny.
It though when people have thatreaction it's like Okay, go on
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Go on about your wet pussy.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Yes, I will talk about wet pussy.
So in wet pussy.
Now I just be the manager.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Okay, oh, you are the manager of the club.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Yeah, but then in Nympho at the start I have to be
like a cover, but then covereverything, everything.
Because in in one point what doyou mean by cover like?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
replacement.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah, like when the when manager not there when
mama's not okay, so we play andcatch you're not there okay, I
just have to stand by so youjump in the positions yes and
it's just because, like after weopened like new, falling I
think one or two months, and wedon't have managers.
And mama sang, she opened herown bar oh, okay and catcher was
(36:54):
her sister, so they are so bothof them.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yes, yeah, and I also open in, so six, so they open
somewhere else they opensomewhere else at least next
door or something like it wouldbe fun it would be fun, take
some girls and also it would bea pain in the ass.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Yeah so that's why, like, just have someone that I I
have to like do everything bymyself.
So it's good, because I mean,when some someone not there, I
can just jump in and like, okay,I do it okay and weird question
do you accept ladyboys in thewet pussy?
Like only when they're cut?
(37:33):
Yeah, only when they're cut.
Unfortunately, we don't do mixyeah.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Why you don't do mix, because just before you came,
you talked about it.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
For me I don't mind, for me I don't mind.
And I think my boss, my boss,like tell me size, tell me also,
maybe don't mind.
But I noticed like he kind of Ithink he don't really want to
do mix, because he say first, hesay like it's kind of make
confusion.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
For the customers.
Yes, so they don't know.
Oh, I'm sitting with a lady, orI'm sitting with a lady boy.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
But in Soy6 in particular, they don't have.
They used to have a lot of me,yeah, yeah, but, but but now
they don't have much or anyright or something.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I just know a few right one mixed bar or one lady
boy one mixed bar oh okay, yeah,I just know one.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
It's only one left right now.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
That's crazy, you remember like 10 years ago, it
was all mixed yeah, I, I know itwas more than now, so one is
crazy all mixed.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, I know it was more than now, so the wine is
crazy.
It's really like everything islike shifting, as you mentioned
many times before, like SoyBokao, soy Bokao, have like.
It's not only that, I thinkalso the adjustment to the
customers.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
So first it was like more, as we said, by the way, as
the article that you said.
First it was more westerns andamericans, right, yeah, so for
them it's excitement and it'sinteresting oh, it's a lady,
lady boy, you know.
And now it shifts to the asianmarket and the asian market is a
bit more strict about it.
So I think it's maybe not notparticularly particularly in
(39:03):
your bar, but still like thewhole scene is shifting right
now.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah yeah, now I also see more the more asian bar pop
up.
The past like what thedifference?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
just the ladies or the music?
Speaker 4 (39:17):
also, like they will put more asian, let's say
chinese music or korean music Iwon't say like, uh, I don't know
how to explain, but it's morelike the vibe.
But but do you see the bar?
Do you actually know like whattype of customer that they're
looking?
Speaker 1 (39:30):
for I don't know that , I don't know, I don't have
that kind of do you have that?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
No, I just try to figure it out.
So what is it besides the whiteskin Like.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
What are the points that we need to look to in order
to find?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Oh I mean they're super petite, super skinny,
White skin.
She said before.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Yeah, it's like, especially like look at the
woman who worked there.
First it felt white and thenvery cute, Very small, Not just
like skinny, but like small.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So more like a schoolgirl style.
You mean short and skinny, yeah, or like can be short, only
short as well.
And also like dress and makeup.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Makeup only light I can walk there Go ahead.
Look, I'm white skin, short andfat.
Okay, I find a dress for you.
Okay, perfect, and dress verycute.
Yeah, something like that.
Like not only labeling, youknow yeah yeah, yeah, it's more
like conservative.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's more conservative.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, and themusic is the same, just general
.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
The music.
The music is hard to say.
The music is like, yeah, more,like more in Korean Chinese
music than the US music.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
I have a question for you.
We had an article that we spokeabout before, but I want to
know if you noticed that you canalso join in, because you are
being very quiet and maybe youknow the answer before her.
So which is the country thatmost of the tourists come from
right now in?
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Thailand From my experience, my point of view
right.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Thailand.
I will give you a hint, okay.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
It's Southeast Asia, oh, south Korean.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
No.
What do you think?
Oh, south korean?
No.
What do you think?
Which, like from which countrymost have the biggest?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
group of tourists that come now to thailand every
year no.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
The thailand, russia, no, also no.
So it's malaysia, actuallymalaysia, and we saw the numbers
.
It's like 20% more thaneveryone else, even more.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Like it was Malaysia, china, no, india was the third.
Yeah, it was the third one,right?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Malaysia, China, India.
Then they're talking aboutKorea.
And at the end, the end, theend.
You see all the Westerncountries.
Yeah, like it's shifting somuch, because now you don't see
as many.
Now it's our season also butyou don't see as many as big
groups of foreigners of Englishguy or French or German or
(42:13):
American especially.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I don't see almost any Americans here yeah, not as
it's supposed to be before.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Only a few right and it used to be the American hub,
if not the American.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
But now you know something like what's going on
on the beach road and then thewalking street, so the American
hub.
But now you see, like what'sgoing on on the beach road and
in the walking streets, so it'slike you see, Asian and you see,
like Indian it's.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Indian town.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, you have also a lot of Indian in the Soi 6?
.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
At the moment a lot.
Yesterday I saw the biggestgroup I've ever seen.
It's kind of like can fit inthe big bus.
Like around like 20 people.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
And they go with the same.
The Chinese with the stick, orit just randomize.
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
They just go like look like a group of friend, but
it's like 20 people.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Okay, they go inside the Obama.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
No, okay, I don't have many girl that is like
their type.
Yeah, or like not many girlthat they are the girl type.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
But a few of the girls like Indian.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
What would you say is the best customers you have?
Which country For your barespecially?
Speaker 4 (43:16):
For my bar.
For my bar, I would say theAussie, the Australians, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
The Australians, sorry, yes, okay, why so
Spending more?
Or they just like you, liketheir vibe?
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Maybe I just like the vibe and also, like some of
them, are spending quite a lotReally Because, like first one
of the owner is the Australianright.
Okay, Especially if you'rethere, it's easy to get them.
Oh, and England, because I havea manager from England.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Okay, yeah, and Yoruba.
Which is the best customersthat you get in Yoruba?
What country?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
I don't know, because it was almost terrible yeah but
okay.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
But you have friends that work there and you know,
like the customers that come,like for you, for example, as a
ladyboy bar, do you get manyAsians inside, like Koreans,
chinese.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Not too many Asians to my bar, maybe the most like
just from Australia.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Really.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Australia and England and Germany.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
The only one.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
And Russia, russia also.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yes, okay, I never seen too many Russians go to the
ladyboy bars.
Actually, I know only few ofthem.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
The guy we met yesterday was from Hungary,
Hungary yeah, yeah, I don't seemany Russians in my bar either.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
When they come, they come like a couple for five lady
bars to have sex.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, so I know.
I think even I know who exactlyyou're talking about.
You also know them.
You also know them because wesee them in the same bars all
the time.
Last time we saw them in picilily, they are going to hunting
for a lady.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Oh, but I don't know they're russian, really okay, I
but you know who, I'm talkingabout yeah, yeah, but I never
spoke to them.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
But yeah, so they used to go to delirious before I
spoke to them and they justtell me yeah, we are hunting for
ladyboys okay, oh, it'sinteresting when both are into
it, right?
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (45:22):
You know what it's, maybe even like coming more from
the girl and not of the guy.
Because I met an Israeli coupleshe's Russian but
Russian-Israeli, and he'sIsraeli guy and he said, listen,
I'm not into it, but she alwaysdrag me here.
She always drag me here, andthen I have to sit, poor guy, no
(45:44):
, no, he said I'm not into it.
And then I have to sit watchingher fucking a ladyboy, like for
two hours and I feel not goodbecause the ladyboy fuck her
better than me.
Yeah, it's funny, yeah.
But he said like oh okay, so Ijust drink here with the guys
you know and she's like hunting,grabbing the cocks and whatnot.
(46:04):
Wow, that's crazy.
Do you get that also in Yoba?
Like couples looking to addanother lady?
Speaker 4 (46:10):
Yeah, full time.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Really, and normally it's walk out, or sometimes the
ladies say well, or sometimesthe ladies say well, we don't
want to get involved.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Some work out Same like Nympho.
We have like young couple.
They're coming and just alwayscome to bar five, one girl.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
The same girl, the same girl, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
So it's almost a relationship already if they're
always with the same girl.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Yeah, have like a few come later, like they're just
looking around, you know.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
You know if there's some people say yes, okay, let's
go, or but I like one, onecustomer that I have at the
moment like personally.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
No, I don't like he come in and then he would drink
with but a lot many of the girl,right.
But then one time I and how Isee the girl come to do the chat
to go out, right, chat time.
Oh, okay, to go out.
And then I saw in the list likewhy is like four girls and one
bill?
And then Katia told me, oh yeah, he barfied all the four girls.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Oh, at the same time, in the same time Wow.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
That must be a good chat time.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Well, I will tell you a story that I I have about
that.
So there is a place which is weall know what is a gentleman
club.
Okay, you know what is agentleman bar?
So gentleman bar is basically ablowjob bar.
It's it's a closed door bar.
You cannot go inside, you haveto ring the bell and then they
open for you and basically cheapdrinks and, sorry to say, but
cheap ladies.
You know most of the ladies,they're a bit older and you can
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do everything in the bar.
So if you will go, you see someguys getting blowjobs behind
the curtain or something, notwhere I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
They don't have any curtains over there when I was
like in the Meggie maze, okay,so that was the first time that
I witnessed it, okay, and uh,yeah.
So then I saw like a guy justdisappear behind the curtain,
and then I hear like some noises, and then I know already what
they're doing.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (48:09):
I mean I said like okay, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Okay, okay, this is how it goes, yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
I, I was at that bar.
I can say the name of the bar.
It's called the telephone bar.
It's at the end, the end, theend of Soi Bon Cote.
Oh, okay, there is like a redtelephone booth.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
You know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, like the.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
English one, and there is a button you press and
then they come open.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
That's actually a cool idea, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
By the way, the owner there, he used tie and then
they separate and she, she justadopted the idea and she go all
in for it.
It's really interesting howthey do it.
So I was there with a friend ofmine and we are drinking and
there were like six, seven,eight girls over there, I don't
remember how many.
Now, the concept of this barthat each if you buy one drink
for the ladies, immediately theyget naked.
Oh, interesting.
I want to go there, yeah you canwe can all go together, but
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it's closed very early I'mtelling you it's closed.
They open nine in the morningand they close nine pm in the
daytime it's a daytime.
Most of the gentlemen clubs area daytime place because,
basically, why they are doingall the getting naked and
everything they try to attractthe cheap Charlies.
Oh, I go to a bar.
I have to pay like a few drinks, but it's also because of the
(49:24):
area right.
So Soybon could have like a lotof, I think, just because it's
cheaper to do it over there.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Okay, just that so how it goes.
So one drink and they getalready naked In that bar yeah,
immediately naked.
And then what do you get forthe second drink?
Already a blowjob.
They stay naked.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Okay, no, it's a really chill place actually.
They are not pushing you toomuch.
Okay, Most of them will justlet you play with their tits or
whatever, but this is theconcept of the bar.
But normally if you come inside, you will see someone get a
blowjob next to you, or justwith his cock out, jerking off
and someone is helping.
That's normal thing over there.
(50:02):
So I was there with my friendand there were some eight or
something like this ladies andwe are drinking and each of us
bought a lady drink and then wesee a guy come drink a bit, buy
a drink for a lady and then hego with the lady and then
another lady go, another lady,and then another lady go,
another lady go, another lady go, and then even the ladies that
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stayed with us went inside.
Wow, he want everyone in thebar.
He didn't have, he didn't likecare.
I was surprised he didn'tinvite us.
That was a bit rude, like, hey,guy, you're leaving that just
with the like the bartender overthere at least invite us.
But he was like himself witheight girls and it's cheap, I
don't remember.
(50:43):
I think it's like 700 for eachone, something like that, 700 or
800.
I don't remember the exactprice.
So he just 10,000 baht,whatever with all the ladies
Crazy.
No, he was very quick about it.
Listen, eight ladies, yeah,okay, even if they just use
(51:05):
their pinkies, you will be quickabout it.
But yeah, it was fun.
But it's a really nice bar ifyou've never been there and also
to the guys I recommend it'svery interesting.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Just telephone bar, go there, telephone bar, that's
cool and I have one place inBangkok, actually Havana.
It's like, yeah, you know, inBangkok everything is a little
bit more high.
Speaker 4 (51:26):
I know, I know Havana , yeah, so you know, you also go
inside with the.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
So there's a code that you have to type on the
phone and then the door opens,and then you'd be like it's a
little bit like Cuba style theway they do it.
Speaker 4 (51:38):
With a cowboy vibe.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeah, and they have like a cigar lounge there and
everything, yeah it's prettycool.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
It's pretty cool.
I like cigars.
Next time we'll go to.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Bangkok Okay yeah.
It's actually there where wehad the hotel.
It's in Sukhumvit 11, justaround the corner at the end.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Oh, okay, yeah, that's a cool vibe.
We had a weekend like two weeksago, three weeks ago.
We just okay, we go to Bangkokto meet our friend for two
nights.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah we have to lift him up.
Speaker 4 (52:04):
he was a little bit down, yeah me and my friend like
to go there because like itwould be like random stranger
come to you and then like askyou to dance, like dance salsa
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, the vibe is very good, very good, vibe it's
nice, of course a little bitmore expensive because of the
area.
So come with 11, everything isa little bit more high, but the
vibe is really unique.
I like it, but this is not likea gentlemen bar.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
This is just a bar.
The concept is like a secretbar that you have to go.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Yeah, and then it's really like Cuba style, so you
don't feel like you'd be inSouth America.
It's really cool.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
That's nice.
You know there is a place here.
I don't know many people don'tknow it it's called Empire
Lounge.
You heard about it?
No, you heard about it.
So it's on the way to Jomtien.
It's the most expensive bar inPattaya.
There are no ladies over there.
(52:58):
Two, it's a cigar lounge.
Okay, amazing, how, like thedesign there is so beautiful.
Everything is dark and you feellike in a james bond movie.
You know, everyone have liketheir own lazy boy chair, but
like it's look like a crown, nota crown, a throne.
You know, like big chairs withtall backs and you have your own
(53:19):
table and your own cigarplacement and everything.
A drink there is 500 baht.
The cheapest cigar is like six,seven thousand baht.
Oh, yeah, yeah, and you have tobe a member.
Oh, if you're a member they cutthe price like 50, everything
okay but the membership, I don'tremember how much it cost and I
went there one time because Ireally like cigars and I said
(53:42):
okay, I will give it a try.
I just went inside, I looked atthe prices.
They already looked at me andsaid like that, because they saw
my face and I just turnedaround shamefully and I went
back down.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeah, I mean, if it starts at 7K, this is like kind
of strange and this is like kindof strange.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
And, by the way, the same cigar you can buy for,
let's say, 1,000.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Right In, other places, so it's not even that
exclusive.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Yeah, well, they have some special things over there.
I saw that the price is there.
Yeah, they're over 10, 15,whatsoever.
No, no, I'm talking 50, 60,000baht for a cigar.
No, way.
Yeah, and people pay that theplace is open.
That's crazy, and it's open forlike four or five years already
, so it's working, I guess.
So Listen after that time.
(54:25):
I never did that, oh it's alaundry business, money laundry.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
You know what Maybe?
Speaker 1 (54:30):
We know some businesses here that operate as
money laundry businesses infront of other stuff.
Yeah, but yeah, it's probablysomething like that, but it's
interesting, like I always toldmyself that when we will make it
, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
We will go have a cigar over there, fuck you guys.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
We want a membership.
We invite all our friends.
No, but this is the things thatI like about the concept bars
when they have, some of themhave such a cool concept that
you don't really need even theladies.
Like the ladies that I told youthat are there are not walking.
Ladies Like the bartender andthe girl that light your cigar.
That's it.
Speaker 4 (55:13):
So the writer and then the… yeah, something like
that.
That is also something that Ifeel like is really lacking in
Pattaya, like the normalchilling bar, you know, with a
nice cocktail, and then havelike cool bartender or like cool
concept of the bar.
Because, like now, when it'slike going to go to the bar in
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Pattaya, probably it's going togo to my friend bar, right, of
course.
Yeah, but I also like miss the,miss the, the picture like bar
in the pitch in the in bangkokyeah, you know you're gathering
with your friend, like same,like havana like hey today let's
go dance, let's go havana, okay.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
And also, like today, let's go like chill, have some
wine, let's go to the oscar bar,or something like that oscar is
the oscar bistro yeah but manypeople go there because they
have a nice bar and just sitaround yeah later they even play
like the drums, so that somepeople were dancing.
But it sounds very touristy,like no, it's, it's, it's like
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mix, right, because in inbangkok you have so many people
they actually live there as asforeigners, right, and then you
have like um, it's even like umfrom, from the girls that coming
there is also kind of mixed.
So you have some girls they'rea little bit older in the oscar
bistro, right so, and some ofthem even working like uh, as a
freelance, and some just like um, yeah, coming from work, you
(56:33):
know, have a normal job, I don'tknow, maybe in a hospital or
whatsoever, so you can.
That's why I like bangkok fromthe vibe, because you can really
meet like people who are likeworking in the sex industry,
right, but you can also meetlike normal people, yeah because
, like yeah, after the afteroffice, after you work, I need
(56:55):
to stop uh oh, okay, so we do afive minute break, okay, no
problem.
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai wife
podcast.
I'm Mike and sadly I'm doing itwithout two people today, so
without my lovely, lovely wifeSunari, and without Pim that is
unable to join us today.
It was a bit of a weird daytoday, so many of the guests
(00:21):
late and stuff like that, andalso we're doing back-to-back
recording today, so you mightsee us with the same shirt, same
hats.
So we will see.
But I have one of the mostprettiest guests I had and the
youngest actually.
We have Fem here.
Fem, how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I'm doing good and you.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I'm always good.
How are you enjoying our lastnight yesterday when we went out
and partying?
To be honest, so drunk toodrunk, really, but you didn't
drink too much.
No, yeah, you throw up a littlebit, but it's okay, it's
happened.
But we started the night likeso I will not say to the
(01:06):
listeners where you work,because I don't want everyone
come and looking for you, but westarted at Yorbar, right, and
then we moved to three otherbars.
Two other bars.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Three.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We went to Yorbar.
Then we went oh right, therewas a party at Mina.
Then we went to 69.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
69 bar and then at Mina, then we went to 69 69 bar
and then to Cindy's and then wewent straight to walking
straight, yeah to flex, yeah,you like flex yes, why I like
hip-hop?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
just because of your the music, not because they let
ladyboy automatically inside.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
No, you not care about this really.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Normally the places let you inside without a problem
yes because they think you area lady no so why?
How come?
For you they are not makingproblem and for someone else yes
?
secret there is a secret, okay,can you let us on the secret so
we can help our lady boyfriendsto go inside.
(02:05):
It's not possible.
Yes, maybe after the podcastyou can tell me.
So I know your story a bit.
Okay, we are not going toelaborate the whole thing, right
, but you're very, very young.
You're 19 years old right now,yes, and you're staying in
Pattaya.
Since how many years?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
One year and two months.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
So when you'll be 18, you come here, yes, and you
start working.
Yes, okay, and was it like abig shock for you all, this bar
scene and customers and drinking?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
When I was here for the first time, to be honest, I
was shocked that why I have tosell sex service.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Why to have To sell sex?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
service.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Oh, why you have to sell sex service.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I asked many ladyboys .
They work long time and I askwhy we have to kiss the customer
, have to talk, have to gooutside with them.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You don't have to do.
You can say no, I have period.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Just ask, just kiss God, I'm due.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
In that time.
So then I know I do.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, but basically you not do it for fun, you do it
for money.
Yes, at the end of the day younot care about the customer.
I mean, you care about them,but not as much as, oh, I like
him and I want to have sex withhim or kiss him or whatnot you
care about.
He pay the drinks for you.
So you get your commissionright.
How much the commission in yourbar?
(03:48):
so for every drink, how much youget 50 50 baht for everything
that he buy for you, not that hebuy for himself, and he paid
the bar.
Fine, right.
And then he pay for you, andthis you decide later, right,
how, how much he paid for you.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Normally you're not talking about this in the bar,
okay and then you start gettingused to it or you still think
why you have, why I have to dothis.
I don't know, I'm alone.
Have no money?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, no, I have no home no family, you're just by
yourself, struggling andfighting the world, right, okay.
But you are still young and Ithink, like, okay, I will ask
you some kind of personalquestion.
Right, you are saving money forthe future, like, if you get,
let's say, this month, you makeI'm just saying 50 000 baht you
(04:45):
save a little bit money, yes,okay, so you're not just
spending everything on drinksand partying and food.
Well, you're so skinny, I thinkyou don't eat too much, but
about everything else you're notspending that much.
No, okay, and what?
Like?
What is your plan for?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
the future.
For the future, I have plan torent a condominium.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And work.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
You can say everything here.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I want to work on camshare website, so doing a cam
show.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yes, still, it's like selling sex, right, but at
least you don't have to touchthe customers.
Okay, and you did it, sex right, but at least you don't have to
touch the customers.
Okay, and you did it before,right?
Yes, and I know a bit like howmuch you did and where you did
it, because you explained to mealready and it's very
interesting.
But in the end of this episode,of course, we will tell the
(05:39):
listener your website and ifthey want, they can go to your
website and give you some money,but that's up to them and you
separated.
You start doing it by yourselfalso, right, and like you think,
because have many people thatdoing cam shows many, many, many
, many.
What's special about you?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
like what lady boy you?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
are a lady boy, but have many lady boys that do come
show also.
You think you're the only ladyboy in the world that doing come
show.
No, so when I say what'sspecial, like what you do,
different from other people,different like maybe you talk
with the guys more on the chator maybe you do special requests
, or I don't know, like, what isspecial about you, why people
(06:26):
want to pay you.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Of course you're beautiful, but on the cam is
like a.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I'm a shy girl, but when they send money I show
everything so you just like havea contrast between oh, I'm so
shy, shy, shy and then moneynaked, naked.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
My character is shy, but when he come he's good.
So people on camp think me likeshy, have to send some gift or
something.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So why not?
You go for the nerdy girl?
Why not wear glasses?
You know, you know what I mean.
Some people like it and youknow shy and nerdy sometimes go
together.
Not my style, Not your style.
So what is your style?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Just like that.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Regular Okay, and you're still doing this, right,
or now you have a break a littlebit.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Still doing.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Okay, and I know that you told me you have some
problem with that website before.
Yeah, for some reason theyblock you.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yes, because I send a personal contact to Kazuma.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So basically you send him your phone number or maybe
your email, something that youare not allowed to give them,
and then someone reports you orthey see it automatically, and
then they just block you.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
No, the website check .
Oh, the website itself checkyeah.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Okay, and how long you've been blocked.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Only six days.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Only six days?
Oh fuck it, it's nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Because I sent email to them.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I know how to express yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Of course, you know how to write.
You have to work in the chat.
Listen, as many times I spoke,even with Michelle, about this
what you do in the camera is theeasy part.
But then you have to chat inand you have to send message and
to promote.
This is the hard work, likesitting in front of the camera
and just jerk off.
This is the easy job.
I think so.
I'm not doing it myself, butyes, you're right.
(08:25):
Okay and you're doing any kindof promotion Like do you have
Instagram, twitter, like X,whatever, or just this website?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Instagram only.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So only Instagram and this website?
Yeah, and in the Instagram youalso publish about this website.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, and what do you think?
Like you said, your plan is, asyou said, to rent a big
condominium, right, and thenhave special room just for this
and many cameras, and sometimesyou will bring your friends or
you want to do it alone I wantto do it alone, only alone, no
(08:58):
friends.
Yes, okay, that's interestingand you have like costumes, you
change costumes and stuff likethat and they are.
Sometimes you get requests fromreally what kind of like
interesting, not something weird, just interesting that you get.
What interesting request youget before so request mean like
(09:21):
they ask you oh, I want you towear this or do like this from
Cuba on my ass.
I meant about outfit, not aboutwhat to do, like this.
Like they ask you maybe to wearlike nurse or well, no, they're
not talking about this.
Just they want you to put stuffup your ass.
This is the only thing thatthey care, right?
Okay, well, I think you're kindof used to it after working in
(09:49):
a bar about a year and a half.
And what about the bar?
Like, they know you do that, no, so it's a secret.
So now everyone will know.
Oh, you're a very brave girlfor telling them, and so I know
also because you do that work.
Sometimes you just go to yourown bar and just barfing
(10:10):
yourself because you don't wantto work too much, right?
Yes, you don't miss, like thepeople no I don't mean the
customer.
Like you don't have friends inthe bar.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I have friends in the bar but I don't know Like
introvert person.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You are introvert.
Okay, you know, it seems likeit.
Like yesterday you were theresinging and having fun I'm drunk
Just because of the drunk, ifnot, you are actually really a
shy girl.
So you are not acting as a shygirl in front of the camera.
You are a shy girl, right?
Not shy so introvert is notlike shy just you like to be by
(10:55):
yourself.
That's it okay.
And I know that you live aboveyour bar, right, they give you
room and they give you some food.
Sometime you just go live thereand stay in this bar because
you have free room, free food.
This is the only reason yesokay, they accept foreign also.
I can also go live there forfree and get food for free no,
(11:18):
no.
I can walk in the bar, I candance everything.
You see me yesterday.
They will not take me.
No way for me.
Okay, I will need to ask yourboss.
Maybe she will say yes, maybeshe likes me.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
No, impossible, impossible.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Why?
Because I'm not a nice person.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Because you're not young.
Who works at a bar?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Because I'm not a ladyboy.
Yeah, okay, and your bar isonly ladyboy bar, right?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
No mixed.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Mixed, but every time we go there I never see ladies
over there.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I have ladies.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
One lady.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Not one Four.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Four ladies.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
And how many ladyboys ?
About 30.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, so it's not really mixed.
It's a ladyboy bar with fewladies and I have actually a
good question about this.
Lady and ladyboys when theywalk together, they can be
friends or sometimes have someproblems about this.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Can be friends.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So normally it's not an issue Like there is no like
competition or stuff like thatbetween them.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
No.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Okay, because I know there used to be a lot of mixed
bars around and I know it's nota thing anymore.
It's like maybe sometime yousee a girl bar with 12 girls and
maybe one lady boy, just forthe fun of it, you know.
But when I asked them, when I,for example, when I spoke with
(12:52):
69 bar, right, I asked the ladyboys over there, like why?
Why it's not mixed?
They say because lady and ladyboy, this is just fake to each
other.
Ladies are just fake to ladyboys.
They always, always say oh welike you, you're my friend, blah
, blah, blah, but inside they'renot.
Really, is this true?
I?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You don't know, like your best friends are ladies or
ladyboys.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
My best friend is ladyboy.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Okay, and you have lady friends also.
Yes, back home in a bar only inthe bar back home.
You have no one really no oh mygod, it's so sad, it is, and I'm
sorry to hear that.
And like, would you think ifyou find like a bar that let you
(13:40):
work your own thing, like let'ssay he tell you, oh you have
just, you can be like only two,three hours every day and then
you can go do your own thingwith the cam show, would you
still consider walking in thebar or you just sick of it
already?
I don't know you're not thinkingabout this really okay, because
(14:04):
I would think like well, I'mnot you right, I'm a different
person and for me I do need thecompany.
I like to be around otherpeople.
I like to not drinking so much,but I like to be around other
people.
One second, we have one moreguest joining us.
(14:25):
If you can give him amicrophone, please?
Yeah, guys, we have unexpectedsurprise.
Well, kind of expected becausehow this day went, but we have
Michel here.
Soon you will be able to seehim and hear him, michel how's
(14:47):
you doing, brother?
I'm good, yeah, you can comehere, sit next to Fem, okay,
okay.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
First say hi.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
How are you doing, brother?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, hello, how are?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
you doing All good.
She was just explaining about,first of all, her business, her
side hustle.
You know what I'm talking about.
Oh, yeah, the online thing.
The online thing, yeah, and howmuch she don't like the bars
actually.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, I think she make a smart decision because of
the….
Speaker 1 (15:16):
We have another guest joining us.
Oh, perfect timing.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Everybody come at the same time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's okay.
No, but I think she actuallymakes a good decision because
now she makes more online thanshe actually makes in the bar,
especially now in the low season.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, the low season obviously affects.
You feel the low season now.
You feel like you're makingless money.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yes, less money Last year.
I came here this month also,but it's not quiet like this.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Hello, how are you?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
doing Everyone.
This is Ellie, my friend Ellie,how are you doing?
Good, so this is Michel Nice tomeet you, and this is Fem.
And we were just talking aboutthe lousies season how she can
feel the effect of it, becauseshe walk in a bar.
It's actually, she told meright now, it's a mixed bar.
(16:13):
You knew that, no, so it's amixed bar.
You cannot say the name of thebar, but it's a mixed bar, okay,
yesterday there was me womanthere had some.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I only see like the one behind the bar, but I saw
all the other ones, likeladyboys or not had oh wow, she
said 4 lady.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Ok, 4 lady and 30 ladyboys.
So I thought it's not really amix.
But come on, yeah, yeah, but ifthey still have a few ladies.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
so it's kind of a mix right, even if it's not equal,
but at least they have some,because usually the ladyboy bars
have just like ladyboys andmaybe behind the bar have like a
girl or something.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, like a cashier yeah cashier or mama's son or
whatever right, and if we'retalking about cashier, we have
Ellie.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Oh yeah, I do quite like all positions in the bar.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
All positions, all positions.
I experience all positions.
Yeah, but you are not workingas a staff, right?
No, no, yeah, and would youlike to say the name of your bar
, or you don't have to?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, I don't mind, but the thing is, your boss can
say the word, that word.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You can say whatever you want, Okay so.
Fuck cunt asshole.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
So, at first, the bar that I work for is Nympho.
It's the same owner, nympho.
My two friends own the bartogether.
Oh okay, first one is Nympho.
Yes, and now I'm working on theWet Pussy.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Wet Pussy Bar yes, okay, that's good.
Same owner?
Wait, wait, I want to know.
This is like a qualification.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
You have to wear it Well you need to clarify the
name of the bar.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
No, no, you don't have to.
No, I'm joking.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
But sometimes I just interview customers.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And how long do you work there?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
We opened last year, August.
Ok With the first bar, but weperceive it just opened this
month.
Oh, only the no we already havethe bar.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So the first one was really good, right, so that's
why they decided to open thesecond one.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
No, it's more like my friend bought like two units oh
okay.
So we sell the contract to theother people to open the Wet
Pussy.
And then now we just have achance to take it back.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, because it was not running well then.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, they don't do so.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, Okay For me it's just funny that she said we
sell the contract for someoneto open the wet pussy.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I know it's so funny.
The name.
We just sell the pussy contract.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And the previous owner from where they're from.
They're foreigners or they're?
Thai yeah, they're foreignersFrom which country they're from
the last guy.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
He's kind of like half Russian.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Yeah, the first guy is Austria.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
All right, oh, okay, now I understand why you were so
busy the past months.
Yeah, because we just startopen and have to change many
things.
You think it's better to openin low seasons than you did now.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
The thing is, I do quite well, so I don't really
mind.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, because it's O6 , right, you still get the
traffic over there how manygirls working in the bar.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
At the moment.
Right now, I have less than 15.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
15,.
Okay, but it's a normal unit,right?
It's like a typical size of thebus Single unit.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah, yes, like similar size to this one, but
when I first start I have four,four, ladies.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, I know in the beginning, the body has not been
really running well right.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Yeah, when it has less girls, do you like attack
less attention?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
yeah, so people like walking in very film yeah,
because if you have like 15 thechains that someone passed by
and it's the type of girl whatyou're looking for is the chain
is bigger, right, yes, okay, umit's just because, like the last
last week, that doesn't havelike heavy, yeah, like front of
my house flooding.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
It's flooding like up to my knees, but then it's also
raining very heavy insideNympho.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So they have problem with the ceiling.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yes, water leaking like a waterfall.
So now, at the moment, we closeNympho and renovate with the
ceiling.
Yes, so it's water leaking downlike a waterfall.
Yeah, so now at the moment, weclose Nympho and renovate and
then all the girls come to workif we're perceived, so you need
to fix it.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Okay, not that it's happened by the next heavy rain.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, okay, no, but it sucks, like you have to.
Just you just open a new oneand then you have the problems
keep on coming.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, but better now in the low season than in the
high season.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I would say yeah and also it's perfect time, because
we just opened up the WEPUSI, soevery staff can just work at
the WEPUSI.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So you bring all the staff from the other bar to the.
So now it's how many ladies?
Now Like 30 ladies.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
No, as I said, now I have like 15.
Like at front.
You also have to separate.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah for two bar ladies okay, okay, and can I ask
you, like each bar, in myopinion, normally I don't go soy
six much.
I find it a bit of a hassle.
You know, it's a bit moreexpensive and the ladies are a
bit more aggressive and theother floors are a little bit
different.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, no more aggressive and the other flowers
a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
No, not not in every bar, but normally like if I want
just to cross the street,people will just grab me on yeah
, I can say like it more highercompetition.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yes, because I have more lady in this actually go
inside.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
What I wanted to ask you what like everybody have
some concept, what the conceptof your bars, I don't know, like
what makes you different fromthe other bars.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
That's hard to answer , so you have, maybe like only
young girls, or it's like aroundNot really.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
But I can say like we are very chill and fun.
Maybe some bar, some place yougo.
They're kind of like a hot-sell.
Yeah, drink, drink, drink drink, but normally my bar is more
like chilling.
We can just come play gameschilling and all my girls know
the games.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So you're not annoying the customer for drink
again and again.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
No, but I do play the games with them, still buying
drinks, but Do you have a?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
pool table in your bar or it's just like the normal
games.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Normal table game and I kind of have like weird girl.
Sometimes they don't need drink, but they're just already
dancing in front of the bar.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
That's good, that's actually good.
And how long it took you?
Because I know another bar thatwas opened kind of recently in
sorry japan.
They opened and they said, oh,it will be a big opening, big
opening, big opening.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And they cannot get ladies, like for two months oh
actually it's a ladyboy bar, butstill they cannot get anyone
like for almost two months orthe one they try to do like kind
of a gentleman club in it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, I saw just the advertisement on Facebook or on
social media and I just saw theyhave maybe four or five.
Yeah, I never saw the ones thatthey have, and it's a gentleman
bar, so it's open very early,yeah, and it's like behind
closed doors, right?
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
yeah, yeah, so you don't really see it closed doors
, right.
Yeah, when my friends startopening, right, I try to be like
this recruiter because I don'twant to go work every day.
But then I also have problem onthe fighting the girl.
But then, especially now, I seethe low season, the opening
high season and then now itloses you, right.
So, especially like now lowseason, many girl, they just go
(23:47):
home.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, take a rest, because they see it's not really
like they're not making money.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, not so much right.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Because we have more like the locals and not so many
tourists, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
So like the girls some girls they work in Pattaya
for a long time, so they knowlike there is low season, they
just go home and come back inthe high season.
So I think that that's alsocausing it's hard to find the
people to work.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
But only in the low season, or is it in the high
season?
And also difficult because youhave so much competition and
they go to other bars so it'shard for each bar to find the
right amount of ladies.
Or is it more easy in the highseason actually to get them?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I feel like it's easier to get them in the high
season.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
What do you do as a recruiting Like, how do you
recruit them?
Do you go around the socialmedias or you go around the bars
?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
No, I just go around the social medias because I feel
like every city they have likegroup like the bar, the bar
working group, and then the ladywill go in there maybe they
post like, okay, I'm looking forthe job and stuff like that and
I also like joining like nearbycity, okay, yeah, and also some
city that I feel like, oh, thegirl very hot, so I have to join
(24:58):
that group on this, that city,okay, and then just post.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
um, yeah, that's nearby city, so rayong chunburi,
bangkok and uh another one.
Yeah, another one that I reallywant to get a girl from is Khon
Kaen and Korat.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Why from them?
Why not go from Sisaket andBuriram?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Korat.
Oh, this is the reason.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
This is the reason.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Well, that makes sense yeah, and kong kian goes.
I have a few friends in inbangkok that is from kong kian
and in I feel like they justthis is where they have
something, okay, yeah I, I thinkthat's like I understand what
you're saying.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
You have like a touch .
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It's something that you think, oh, maybe they have
that special spark that I needto my bar you know yeah because
actually there is a differencebetween the provinces, you know
yeah, and I think if you comefrom the same city, same like us
, right?
So if someone would come frommy hometown even I don't know
him I would immediately feellike a deeper connection because
, yeah, but she's talking aboutvibe.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
She said like the girls from Konken have a special
vibe in them, you know yeahokay yeah, like I feel like if,
uh, my bar is more like attachedto european, american, european
, okay, not like, not like asiantype, but okay, yeah, but uh
come on if if an asian groupcome, you will try to grab them
anyway oh, I will tell them tolike drag them.
(26:24):
At least drag them in for me, atleast you know.
But the bar for Asian people, Iwill feel like I will find a
girl from Chiang Mai, becausewhite skin.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, I was going to say that.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
But like Isan side, like North East, they have like
dark skin sharp face.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
The foreigners from the Western countries like it
more the tan skin and everything.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Chiang Mai also usually like taller one right.
I never noticed a highdifference.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Oh really, yeah, I don't really see my like tall.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I just want to know if it's true or not.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I don't really see my like tall Chiang Mai girl.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
More like with the white skin.
Yeah, white skin.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
My experience with them actually Minimal size like
easy to carry size.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Easy to carry, easy to pack.
Easy to carry?
Yeah, easy to pack size.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I actually noticed something different.
I noticed that the girls thatcome from Chiang Mai, chiang Rai
, all the northern areas, aremuch more relaxed.
It's like a different vibe.
It's like they come from thevillage and not the city, you
know.
They are much more calmed down.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Okay, they want like they fucking love gardening and
stuff like that, and it's notone or two that I met, right, so
everyone has a little bit likeit's very chilled vibe, so then
it's matching to the vibe thatyou actually want to have in the
bar, because you say, yeah, buta little bit like crazy, I like
chaos, you like chaos I morelike chaos yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
So you need to bring them from Booyah, when sometimes
the girls just see like dancingout nowhere on top of the table
, just like you don't even drinkyet and you're like yeah, yeah,
I like this song and they'relike oh okay, you are the right
girl.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I want to ask you a personal question.
So I know you from our mutualmutual friend, mark right?
And he owned the sober bar.
I just named it.
So you guys, if you want tocheck it out, it's in seo, japan
, and I didn't ask you thisquestion until now because I
thought it's really interestinghow come you speak such good
english?
Speaker 4 (28:21):
uh, because your english is amazing, for the time
when I was like 17, yeah, 17 or18, I had like a two-month
break from high school.
So my aneurysms are interestingjust in English music.
I try to remember myself.
So she had a friend open acompany I don't want to say the
(28:43):
name, it's an English companyand then so she sent me there
for just on the two-month break.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Sent you where To.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
England, no, no, in Bangkok, oh, in Bangkok, in
Bangkok, and then when I bethere, I have no friend in
Bangkok.
I don't know anyone, I don'tknow anything about Bangkok.
Never come to in my life and inmy company.
No Thai employee I'm the firstone.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Oh yeah, so like I have to learn very harshly, very
quickly also.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Yes, yes, so.
And then when I finish twomonths I decide to stay.
Not go back to school, justwork in the office.
So like my English that jumpfrom like see one, one percent
to same like now okay, yeah, no.
So this means also you havelanguage skills like you're very
good uh, I can say like it'sjust like I'm very interesting
in it, so it's like it's easierwhen you're interesting, of
(29:34):
course, yeah, and it's like yeah, and also when you're young,
right?
yeah, especially, yeah,especially, like when you not
really can use your own languagebecause in the office I hang
out with them, myco-workerworkers.
Right, go eat, go out, go party, everything together.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I do everything with them.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
So yeah, because I only know them, so I don't have
to use it all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
How long you actually was working in the office.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
In that office for three years.
Oh, wow, yeah.
And then after that because Idon't have the study certificate
, right.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Okay, so mostly the diploma.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah, mostly I would just jump to another company.
It would be just a foreignercompany.
Foreigner company, yeah, okay.
So that's how I became a nurse.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And what made you come all the way here to Pattaya
?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Oh, heartbreak, yeah, Heartbreak, really, yes, yes
For one of the foreigners.
You fell in love with oh,heartbreak, yes, heartbreak,
really yes, for one of theforeigners you fell in love with
.
Yes, I never date Thai, so butit's not really like heartbreak,
more like I break his heart.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
You also?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
fell in love, not him .
Speaker 4 (30:40):
We lived together for past to the COVID.
It's been long time.
You know it's like it's, but Ifeel like the love is not
growing anymore.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It's kind of like you mean wait, you mean during
covid, you felt it went down.
Think about it being stuck athome with the same person all
the time with his farts andeverything you know.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's kind of hard for me for me today it's already
hard okay, I'm joking it.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
I'm not going to say it's hard, I don't think he's a
good guy, but it just feels likeit feels no more exciting.
We kind of talk abouteverything we know each other
too much.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You just say okay, I don't want.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
We just sit down and talk.
Yeah, I feel like we shouldstep back.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
So you used to live with him in Bangkok.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
No, I changed the city a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
It's very confusing oh it's interesting, it's not
confusing.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I met him in Rayong.
Okay, yeah, I met him in Rayong.
And then, before we even know,covid going to hit.
But we heard the news Like, oh,now he's have the flu, break,
break down, break out Something.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
But we heard the news like, oh, now he's had the flu
break break down break out, youknow.
Something strange from China.
Yeah, yeah something strange.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
And then I get offered the job from Bangkok.
So I tell him like oh, I'mgoing to go.
That time we did like just twomonths.
And he just decided like okay,I come with you.
So he just moved his job tofollow me and then COVID hit
hard Okay, so when you arrivedin Bangkok or you guys were
(32:12):
still in Royong.
No, when I was already inBangkok, and then his company
also, like, dumped him out.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Because of the COVID, because of the COVID Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
But they did not like tell him.
Yeah for me, it was also likewhen I work online.
It was like lot of lay-outsback then.
Yeah, for me, it was also backthen when I worked online.
It was like I had an impact.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yeah, that's how the online job is more popular too.
That's why he found an onlinejob too.
So when he got an online job,he just moved to another city
more countryside.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Okay, yeah, and then you just said I want to make
money in Pattaya.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Or you like the scene , you like the party in here.
No, I just break up with himfirst and then later I just look
like where my friends are.
And then my friend, the ownerof the bar.
Now they are in Pattaya, soit's just like, okay, maybe I
can go there.
When I was working in Bangkok,every weekend I like to come to
Pattaya, so maybe I will like ithere.
So that's how is it very simple.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
So actually you never walked as a bar girl no, never
okay, yeah, that's interestingbecause normally I think it's
not the first time but thesecond time I heard, because
normally what happened?
The bar girls start walking andif they are reliable and a bit
smarter, than the other.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
then they can grab the rent, then you get this kind
of position, right when she hada boyfriend and then she
decided, oh, okay.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I don't want to work.
Yeah, they want to open the barand stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
And you don't think you're lacking the experience in
order to understand the?
No, I mean to understand whatthey are going through.
You feel you're lacking thatexperience.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yes, at first I'm very scared.
I thought I'm still workingwith my own company, right?
She already like I already knowshe's going to ask me to join.
When she said, oh, I will,finally, I'm going to open the
bar.
After talking about it for likeyears, two years I said like
okay, and she's like you'regoing gonna come here.
(34:09):
But I don't think so.
But then at the end I feel like, uh, she said like yeah, it
would be the recruiter.
It's like not that hard, youdon't have to come every day,
you can just come to hang outsometime.
And one thing she said that isa little bit like yeah, I think
it will be fine, because whenI'm working in the company, when
I get bored, I still come toSoy6.
(34:29):
So, as a customer, so why notjust enjoy the business?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So you do like that environment, you do enjoy the
partying and the drinkingenvironment in general.
Yeah, like when I saw you thefirst two times, you were very
drunk, like you were extremelydrunk.
No, no More drunk than anyone Isaw before.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Okay, yeah, you come to see me in the pot.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Maybe see me on the party day no, you came with mark
to our friend bar, to deliriousbar, and I met you there.
It was, I think, during a songrun, oh Okay.
I don't remember that Of courseyou don't remember that you
were a student at the bar?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Oh yes, Well, if I go out, I go hard, you know.
If I don't go out, I just stayhome, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
So, but you don't have to work like every day,
right?
If I understand it correctly atthe beginning.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
At the beginning no.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I mean now and about it's supposed to be like that.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
But then at the end you just kind of like At the end
I changed the position from therecruiter and then later become
the mamasan.
Okay, but then also.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I need to do yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
And I need to do the cashier as well.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Bart, you're doing pr also all the promotion online
and stuff like this.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
So this is more like it helping, okay, yeah, more
like they're helping, but uh,right now in the wet pussy, uh,
I do.
It's so funny.
The name is funny.
It though when people have thatreaction it's like Okay, go on
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Go on about your wet pussy.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Yes, I will talk about wet pussy.
So in wet pussy.
Now I just be the manager.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Okay, oh, you are the manager of the club.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Yeah, but then in Nympho at the start I have to be
like a cover, but then covereverything, everything.
Because in in one point what doyou mean by cover like?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
replacement.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah, like when the when manager not there when
mama's not okay, so we play andcatch you're not there okay, I
just have to stand by so youjump in the positions yes and
it's just because, like after weopened like new, falling I
think one or two months, and wedon't have managers.
And mama sang, she opened herown bar oh, okay and catcher was
(36:54):
her sister, so they are so bothof them.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yes, yeah, and I also open in, so six, so they open
somewhere else they opensomewhere else at least next
door or something like it wouldbe fun it would be fun, take
some girls and also it would bea pain in the ass.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Yeah so that's why, like, just have someone that I I
have to like do everything bymyself.
So it's good, because I mean,when some someone not there, I
can just jump in and like, okay,I do it okay and weird question
do you accept ladyboys in thewet pussy?
Like only when they're cut?
(37:33):
Yeah, only when they're cut.
Unfortunately, we don't do mixyeah.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Why you don't do mix, because just before you came,
you talked about it.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
For me I don't mind, for me I don't mind.
And I think my boss, my boss,like tell me size, tell me also,
maybe don't mind.
But I noticed like he kind of Ithink he don't really want to
do mix, because he say first, hesay like it's kind of make
confusion.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
For the customers.
Yes, so they don't know.
Oh, I'm sitting with a lady, orI'm sitting with a lady boy.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
But in Soy6 in particular, they don't have.
They used to have a lot of me,yeah, yeah, but, but but now
they don't have much or anyright or something.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I just know a few right one mixed bar or one lady
boy one mixed bar oh okay, yeah,I just know one.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
It's only one left right now.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
That's crazy, you remember like 10 years ago, it
was all mixed yeah, I, I know itwas more than now, so one is
crazy all mixed.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, I know it was more than now, so the wine is
crazy.
It's really like everything islike shifting, as you mentioned
many times before, like SoyBokao, soy Bokao, have like.
It's not only that, I thinkalso the adjustment to the
customers.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
So first it was like more, as we said, by the way, as
the article that you said.
First it was more westerns andamericans, right, yeah, so for
them it's excitement and it'sinteresting oh, it's a lady,
lady boy, you know.
And now it shifts to the asianmarket and the asian market is a
bit more strict about it.
So I think it's maybe not notparticularly particularly in
(39:03):
your bar, but still like thewhole scene is shifting right
now.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah yeah, now I also see more the more asian bar pop
up.
The past like what thedifference?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
just the ladies or the music?
Speaker 4 (39:17):
also, like they will put more asian, let's say
chinese music or korean music Iwon't say like, uh, I don't know
how to explain, but it's morelike the vibe.
But but do you see the bar?
Do you actually know like whattype of customer that they're
looking?
Speaker 1 (39:30):
for I don't know that , I don't know, I don't have
that kind of do you have that?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
No, I just try to figure it out.
So what is it besides the whiteskin Like.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
What are the points that we need to look to in order
to find?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Oh I mean they're super petite, super skinny,
White skin.
She said before.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Yeah, it's like, especially like look at the
woman who worked there.
First it felt white and thenvery cute, Very small, Not just
like skinny, but like small.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So more like a schoolgirl style.
You mean short and skinny, yeah, or like can be short, only
short as well.
And also like dress and makeup.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Makeup only light I can walk there Go ahead.
Look, I'm white skin, short andfat.
Okay, I find a dress for you.
Okay, perfect, and dress verycute.
Yeah, something like that.
Like not only labeling, youknow yeah yeah, yeah, it's more
like conservative.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's more conservative.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, and themusic is the same, just general
.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
The music.
The music is hard to say.
The music is like, yeah, more,like more in Korean Chinese
music than the US music.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
I have a question for you.
We had an article that we spokeabout before, but I want to
know if you noticed that you canalso join in, because you are
being very quiet and maybe youknow the answer before her.
So which is the country thatmost of the tourists come from
right now in?
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Thailand From my experience, my point of view
right.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Thailand.
I will give you a hint, okay.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
It's Southeast Asia, oh, south Korean.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
No.
What do you think?
Oh, south korean?
No.
What do you think?
Which, like from which countrymost have the biggest?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
group of tourists that come now to thailand every
year no.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
The thailand, russia, no, also no.
So it's malaysia, actuallymalaysia, and we saw the numbers
.
It's like 20% more thaneveryone else, even more.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Like it was Malaysia, china, no, india was the third.
Yeah, it was the third one,right?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Malaysia, China, India.
Then they're talking aboutKorea.
And at the end, the end, theend.
You see all the Westerncountries.
Yeah, like it's shifting somuch, because now you don't see
as many.
Now it's our season also butyou don't see as many as big
groups of foreigners of Englishguy or French or German or
(42:13):
American especially.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I don't see almost any Americans here yeah, not as
it's supposed to be before.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Only a few right and it used to be the American hub,
if not the American.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
But now you know something like what's going on
on the beach road and then thewalking street, so the American
hub.
But now you see, like what'sgoing on on the beach road and
in the walking streets, so it'slike you see, Asian and you see,
like Indian it's.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Indian town.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, you have also a lot of Indian in the Soi 6?
.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
At the moment a lot.
Yesterday I saw the biggestgroup I've ever seen.
It's kind of like can fit inthe big bus.
Like around like 20 people.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
And they go with the same.
The Chinese with the stick, orit just randomize.
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
They just go like look like a group of friend, but
it's like 20 people.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Okay, they go inside the Obama.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
No, okay, I don't have many girl that is like
their type.
Yeah, or like not many girlthat they are the girl type.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
But a few of the girls like Indian.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
What would you say is the best customers you have?
Which country For your barespecially?
Speaker 4 (43:16):
For my bar.
For my bar, I would say theAussie, the Australians, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
The Australians, sorry, yes, okay, why so
Spending more?
Or they just like you, liketheir vibe?
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Maybe I just like the vibe and also, like some of
them, are spending quite a lotReally Because, like first one
of the owner is the Australianright.
Okay, Especially if you'rethere, it's easy to get them.
Oh, and England, because I havea manager from England.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Okay, yeah, and Yoruba.
Which is the best customersthat you get in Yoruba?
What country?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
I don't know, because it was almost terrible yeah but
okay.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
But you have friends that work there and you know,
like the customers that come,like for you, for example, as a
ladyboy bar, do you get manyAsians inside, like Koreans,
chinese.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Not too many Asians to my bar, maybe the most like
just from Australia.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Really.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Australia and England and Germany.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
The only one.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
And Russia, russia also.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yes, okay, I never seen too many Russians go to the
ladyboy bars.
Actually, I know only few ofthem.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
The guy we met yesterday was from Hungary,
Hungary yeah, yeah, I don't seemany Russians in my bar either.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
When they come, they come like a couple for five lady
bars to have sex.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, so I know.
I think even I know who exactlyyou're talking about.
You also know them.
You also know them because wesee them in the same bars all
the time.
Last time we saw them in picilily, they are going to hunting
for a lady.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Oh, but I don't know they're russian, really okay, I
but you know who, I'm talkingabout yeah, yeah, but I never
spoke to them.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
But yeah, so they used to go to delirious before I
spoke to them and they justtell me yeah, we are hunting for
ladyboys okay, oh, it'sinteresting when both are into
it, right?
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (45:22):
You know what it's, maybe even like coming more from
the girl and not of the guy.
Because I met an Israeli coupleshe's Russian but
Russian-Israeli, and he'sIsraeli guy and he said, listen,
I'm not into it, but she alwaysdrag me here.
She always drag me here, andthen I have to sit, poor guy, no
(45:44):
, no, he said I'm not into it.
And then I have to sit watchingher fucking a ladyboy, like for
two hours and I feel not goodbecause the ladyboy fuck her
better than me.
Yeah, it's funny, yeah.
But he said like oh okay, so Ijust drink here with the guys
you know and she's like hunting,grabbing the cocks and whatnot.
(46:04):
Wow, that's crazy.
Do you get that also in Yoba?
Like couples looking to addanother lady?
Speaker 4 (46:10):
Yeah, full time.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Really, and normally it's walk out, or sometimes the
ladies say well, or sometimesthe ladies say well, we don't
want to get involved.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Some work out Same like Nympho.
We have like young couple.
They're coming and just alwayscome to bar five, one girl.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
The same girl, the same girl, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
So it's almost a relationship already if they're
always with the same girl.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Yeah, have like a few come later, like they're just
looking around, you know.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
You know if there's some people say yes, okay, let's
go, or but I like one, onecustomer that I have at the
moment like personally.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
No, I don't like he come in and then he would drink
with but a lot many of the girl,right.
But then one time I and how Isee the girl come to do the chat
to go out, right, chat time.
Oh, okay, to go out.
And then I saw in the list likewhy is like four girls and one
bill?
And then Katia told me, oh yeah, he barfied all the four girls.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Oh, at the same time, in the same time Wow.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
That must be a good chat time.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Well, I will tell you a story that I I have about
that.
So there is a place which is weall know what is a gentleman
club.
Okay, you know what is agentleman bar?
So gentleman bar is basically ablowjob bar.
It's it's a closed door bar.
You cannot go inside, you haveto ring the bell and then they
open for you and basically cheapdrinks and, sorry to say, but
cheap ladies.
You know most of the ladies,they're a bit older and you can
(47:44):
do everything in the bar.
So if you will go, you see someguys getting blowjobs behind
the curtain or something, notwhere I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
They don't have any curtains over there when I was
like in the Meggie maze, okay,so that was the first time that
I witnessed it, okay, and uh,yeah.
So then I saw like a guy justdisappear behind the curtain,
and then I hear like some noises, and then I know already what
they're doing.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (48:09):
I mean I said like okay, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Okay, okay, this is how it goes, yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
I, I was at that bar.
I can say the name of the bar.
It's called the telephone bar.
It's at the end, the end, theend of Soi Bon Cote.
Oh, okay, there is like a redtelephone booth.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
You know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, like the.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
English one, and there is a button you press and
then they come open.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
That's actually a cool idea, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
By the way, the owner there, he used tie and then
they separate and she, she justadopted the idea and she go all
in for it.
It's really interesting howthey do it.
So I was there with a friend ofmine and we are drinking and
there were like six, seven,eight girls over there, I don't
remember how many.
Now, the concept of this barthat each if you buy one drink
for the ladies, immediately theyget naked.
Oh, interesting.
I want to go there, yeah you canwe can all go together, but
(49:02):
it's closed very early I'mtelling you it's closed.
They open nine in the morningand they close nine pm in the
daytime it's a daytime.
Most of the gentlemen clubs area daytime place because,
basically, why they are doingall the getting naked and
everything they try to attractthe cheap Charlies.
Oh, I go to a bar.
I have to pay like a few drinks, but it's also because of the
(49:24):
area right.
So Soybon could have like a lotof, I think, just because it's
cheaper to do it over there.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Okay, just that so how it goes.
So one drink and they getalready naked In that bar yeah,
immediately naked.
And then what do you get forthe second drink?
Already a blowjob.
They stay naked.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Okay, no, it's a really chill place actually.
They are not pushing you toomuch.
Okay, Most of them will justlet you play with their tits or
whatever, but this is theconcept of the bar.
But normally if you come inside, you will see someone get a
blowjob next to you, or justwith his cock out, jerking off
and someone is helping.
That's normal thing over there.
(50:02):
So I was there with my friendand there were some eight or
something like this ladies andwe are drinking and each of us
bought a lady drink and then wesee a guy come drink a bit, buy
a drink for a lady and then hego with the lady and then
another lady go, another lady,and then another lady go,
another lady go, another lady go, and then even the ladies that
(50:23):
stayed with us went inside.
Wow, he want everyone in thebar.
He didn't have, he didn't likecare.
I was surprised he didn'tinvite us.
That was a bit rude, like, hey,guy, you're leaving that just
with the like the bartender overthere at least invite us.
But he was like himself witheight girls and it's cheap, I
don't remember.
(50:43):
I think it's like 700 for eachone, something like that, 700 or
800.
I don't remember the exactprice.
So he just 10,000 baht,whatever with all the ladies
Crazy.
No, he was very quick about it.
Listen, eight ladies, yeah,okay, even if they just use
(51:05):
their pinkies, you will be quickabout it.
But yeah, it was fun.
But it's a really nice bar ifyou've never been there and also
to the guys I recommend it'svery interesting.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Just telephone bar, go there, telephone bar, that's
cool and I have one place inBangkok, actually Havana.
It's like, yeah, you know, inBangkok everything is a little
bit more high.
Speaker 4 (51:26):
I know, I know Havana , yeah, so you know, you also go
inside with the.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
So there's a code that you have to type on the
phone and then the door opens,and then you'd be like it's a
little bit like Cuba style theway they do it.
Speaker 4 (51:38):
With a cowboy vibe.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeah, and they have like a cigar lounge there and
everything, yeah it's prettycool.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
It's pretty cool.
I like cigars.
Next time we'll go to.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Bangkok Okay yeah.
It's actually there where wehad the hotel.
It's in Sukhumvit 11, justaround the corner at the end.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Oh, okay, yeah, that's a cool vibe.
We had a weekend like two weeksago, three weeks ago.
We just okay, we go to Bangkokto meet our friend for two
nights.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah we have to lift him up.
Speaker 4 (52:04):
he was a little bit down, yeah me and my friend like
to go there because like itwould be like random stranger
come to you and then like askyou to dance, like dance salsa
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, the vibe is very good, very good, vibe it's
nice, of course a little bitmore expensive because of the
area.
So come with 11, everything isa little bit more high, but the
vibe is really unique.
I like it, but this is not likea gentlemen bar.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
This is just a bar.
The concept is like a secretbar that you have to go.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Yeah, and then it's really like Cuba style, so you
don't feel like you'd be inSouth America.
It's really cool.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
That's nice.
You know there is a place here.
I don't know many people don'tknow it it's called Empire
Lounge.
You heard about it?
No, you heard about it.
So it's on the way to Jomtien.
It's the most expensive bar inPattaya.
There are no ladies over there.
(52:58):
Two, it's a cigar lounge.
Okay, amazing, how, like thedesign there is so beautiful.
Everything is dark and you feellike in a james bond movie.
You know, everyone have liketheir own lazy boy chair, but
like it's look like a crown, nota crown, a throne.
You know, like big chairs withtall backs and you have your own
(53:19):
table and your own cigarplacement and everything.
A drink there is 500 baht.
The cheapest cigar is like six,seven thousand baht.
Oh, yeah, yeah, and you have tobe a member.
Oh, if you're a member they cutthe price like 50, everything
okay but the membership, I don'tremember how much it cost and I
went there one time because Ireally like cigars and I said
(53:42):
okay, I will give it a try.
I just went inside, I looked atthe prices.
They already looked at me andsaid like that, because they saw
my face and I just turnedaround shamefully and I went
back down.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeah, I mean, if it starts at 7K, this is like kind
of strange and this is like kindof strange.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
And, by the way, the same cigar you can buy for,
let's say, 1,000.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Right In, other places, so it's not even that
exclusive.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Yeah, well, they have some special things over there.
I saw that the price is there.
Yeah, they're over 10, 15,whatsoever.
No, no, I'm talking 50, 60,000baht for a cigar.
No, way.
Yeah, and people pay that theplace is open.
That's crazy, and it's open forlike four or five years already
, so it's working, I guess.
So Listen after that time.
(54:25):
I never did that, oh it's alaundry business, money laundry.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
You know what Maybe?
Speaker 1 (54:30):
We know some businesses here that operate as
money laundry businesses infront of other stuff.
Yeah, but yeah, it's probablysomething like that, but it's
interesting, like I always toldmyself that when we will make it
, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
We will go have a cigar over there, fuck you guys.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
We want a membership.
We invite all our friends.
No, but this is the things thatI like about the concept bars
when they have, some of themhave such a cool concept that
you don't really need even theladies.
Like the ladies that I told youthat are there are not walking.
Ladies Like the bartender andthe girl that light your cigar.
That's it.
Speaker 4 (55:13):
So the writer and then the… yeah, something like
that.
That is also something that Ifeel like is really lacking in
Pattaya, like the normalchilling bar, you know, with a
nice cocktail, and then havelike cool bartender or like cool
concept of the bar.
Because, like now, when it'slike going to go to the bar in
(55:33):
Pattaya, probably it's going togo to my friend bar, right, of
course.
Yeah, but I also like miss the,miss the, the picture like bar
in the pitch in the in bangkokyeah, you know you're gathering
with your friend, like same,like havana like hey today let's
go dance, let's go havana, okay.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
And also, like today, let's go like chill, have some
wine, let's go to the oscar bar,or something like that oscar is
the oscar bistro yeah but manypeople go there because they
have a nice bar and just sitaround yeah later they even play
like the drums, so that somepeople were dancing.
But it sounds very touristy,like no, it's, it's, it's like
(56:10):
mix, right, because in inbangkok you have so many people
they actually live there as asforeigners, right, and then you
have like um, it's even like umfrom, from the girls that coming
there is also kind of mixed.
So you have some girls they'rea little bit older in the oscar
bistro, right so, and some ofthem even working like uh, as a
freelance, and some just like um, yeah, coming from work, you
(56:33):
know, have a normal job, I don'tknow, maybe in a hospital or
whatsoever, so you can.
That's why I like bangkok fromthe vibe, because you can really
meet like people who are likeworking in the sex industry,
right, but you can also meetlike normal people, yeah because
, like yeah, after the afteroffice, after you work, I need
(56:55):
to stop uh oh, okay, so we do afive minute break, okay, no
problem.
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