June 19, 2025 • 69 mins
Relationships in Pattaya are complicated, messy, and often misunderstood by both foreigners and Thai workers alike. Today's raw conversation pulls back the curtain on why finding genuine connection in Thailand's bar scene can be so challenging.
When Scott's budding relationship with a bar worker began falling apart over money issues, it opened up a deeper conversation about the fundamental misunderstandings between foreign men and Thai bar workers. Pim bravely shares her personal experiences working in bars, describing how repeated betrayals and disappointments gradually eroded her ability to trust customers who claim they want real relationships. "I don't trust what they say, but I trust from how they act," she explains, revealing the defense mechanism many workers develop after being treated as commodities rather than people.
The podcast explores the uncomfortable reality of bar buyouts, daily payments, and the unspoken expectations that come with financial support. We examine why many workers prefer short-time arrangements over potentially exploitative "relationships" where they're expected to be constantly sexually available in exchange for financial support. Most revealing is the discussion about why finding commitment in Pattaya is so difficult - not because genuine people don't exist, but because the environment itself breeds suspicion and transactional thinking on both sides.
Whether you're a traveler hoping to understand Thai dating culture better or simply curious about the psychological impact of sex work on personal relationships, this episode offers honest insights you won't find in travel guides. Subscribe now and join our growing community of listeners seeking authentic perspectives on life in Thailand.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike and sadly I'm stilldoing this without my lovely,
lovely wife Sunari.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hi everyone, nice to see you again.
How are you Mike?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm okay.
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Probably lazy.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Lazy.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Lazy morning, so right now it's 9, 9.20 am in the
morning.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, on.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Friday yeah, on Friday, on this Friday, this
Friday and it wasn't an easynight for me at least.
So yeah, for me.
Last night I'm fall asleep.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, you told me, you feel not so good and yeah we
were supposed to record thisepisode yesterday with Scott.
But Scott is a loyal guy sowhen he heard you cannot come,
he said no, I'm not doing thiswithout Pimp.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm so sorry, Scott.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh, it's okay, and actually we had an interesting
night yesterday.
But before I tell you the night, I want to tell about something
that Scott actually told me.
So he's not here, but I got thepermission to talk about it.
Okay, cool.
So for the last few weeks,scott was seeing someone like on
(01:19):
a regular basis, right, so theystay together almost every day,
yeah, and it was very good atthe beginning, but then it
started to develop intorelationship, right, and when it
started to become arelationship, everything started
(01:41):
to get fucked up.
So.
So first it was about moneyissues Yep, because the lady
he's seeing she's still workingat a certain bar, right, I will
not say which bar, okay.
But she's still working in thebar and he's not happy with that
(02:02):
right.
Right, but he's also notwilling to pay to take her out
of the bar yeah, yeah understand.
But like he said to her, if youwill leave the bar I would pay.
But I only would pay if youfind another job.
But unfortunately for her,she's not from Thailand, so
she's from Laos, so it's noteasy for them to find a job in
(02:25):
here, yeahand everything like they went
together and then they break up.
Together and break up because Ithink there is some love
between them yeah but I wastalking with him and, like I
know from his point of view,right, you say why?
Why do I need to pay for thebar?
(02:46):
Like she just say, I leave thebar and she can stay with me.
So first of all I want to knowwhat?
What do you think about thepayment for the bar?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
for me it's like well , if she work in a bar the way,
like the bar has salary for her.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
No salary, no salary, no salary.
Okay for no salary.
This is another another,another, another way, but I
means like if her work in a barand with salary, so Probably
it's alright, it's okay to payfor, for taking off because like
, yeah, we are again.
We are not talking about bar,fine, yeah, right, yeah, we are
(03:28):
talking about permanently makeher stop walk, yeah right, but
about for the place, no salaryand everything is like from from
staff to make money like drinks, go with customer that's it.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So they are making money for the bar?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, they're probably making money for the
bar more than the bar pays forthem.
I feel like that is not reallyfair to pay and take them to
finish working at the bar.
It means for court money fromthe customer?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah.
But for example, let's say youwork at the bar, right, Someone
buy you out of the bar.
You don't get any money out ofit, only the bar.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Probably someplace, half like maybe like half and
half.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Some bars like no, not get any, nothing yeah so I
know for a fact this bar whereshe walk, only go to the bar,
everything.
So they asked him to pay 10,000baht in order to make her stop
walk Right.
But she don't have a contract,she not sign anything.
So in his mind and I understandwhy he say he say just, oh,
(04:40):
it's very easy, just tell themyou don't want to walk anymore
come stay with me, I will takecare, take care of you yeah,
this is.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
This is a much better way to to let's say, like
boyfriend and you love eachother, without about money.
But the money is not theproblem.
But the money is not theproblem.
Do?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
you know what I mean.
What is the problem?
You think the problem is it's?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
like you, just make sure you educate each other.
It doesn't have anything aboutcustomer and that thing happen.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, but like they don't know each other for many
years, they just met, let's say,two months ago.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And that's one thing, and also like he met her in the
bar right so if not the bar, hewill never meet her.
Well, actually, to be true to,to speak truth, he don't.
He didn't met her in that barhe met her in another bar when
she came for a party over thereall right, because it was a
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birthday, yeah and then he, hereally liked how she looked and
everything and he bought her adrink.
And then she told him oh yeah, Iwork at a certain bar, you can
come meet me next day and he did, and I think they spent
together most of the last fewweeks so for me that way is
happening with me alsounderstand it's happened to me
(06:03):
also.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I understand it's like like being with someone and
I meet him when I'm working atthe bar before I come to work at
the last bar at work, then Ifeel like the way is, I doesn't
care about if it about maybeit's happened.
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I mean, it's like if he talk tome like want to be boyfriend,
girlfriend, but doesn't want topay me, that's, I wanted pay for
taking off like that.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
But he said I am willing to pay you.
Yeah, not pay the bile.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, yeah, like that the way he's like look, look,
look on where your meetup I meandepends on you meet them at the
bar or just meet them in aplace like not working, not in a
working let's say in the shop,in the shop, yeah the way it's
like um, but I think this is.
(07:07):
It is under understand how theyfeeling when they pay without
um feeling love each other, justjust just pay for them and lose
money that way you're talkingabout the foreigners yeah, the
foreigners, like lady doesn'tget anything okay okay okay, his
(07:27):
girlfriend doesn't get anymoney from this money no, from
the payout money she don't getanything so why?
why he need to pay that rightyeah, yeah, it's much better to
give to his girlfriend like that.
That's what.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
That's what he thinks so she told him and again I'm
allowed to speak about it.
She told him listen, if youdon't want to pay me out of the
bar, at least pay the bar finefor one month.
So the bar fine at that bar is500 baht.
She just said okay, you don'thave to take me out, but you
want to stay with me?
I have to go walk.
(08:02):
If you want me not to go walk,at least pay the bar fine.
So it's 500 each day and plusshe needs to earn money, right?
So I don't know how much sheasked him for, but you know,
when money goes insiderelationship, it doesn't it's
always make problems, I see.
(08:26):
I think you had this problemalso.
I had it and how you solved it,like what he did in order to
make it better the way is.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I mean for for when.
That's how.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
That's how I'm still working about yeah, the first,
but not the second bar.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It's about the last time I work.
Oh, okay, that time.
What we do is like depends onthe price.
The price I ask is like At yourlast bar that you worked.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I know the price there it's 15,000.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know theprice at At your last bar that
you worked.
I know the price there it's15,000.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I know the price at the bar that last time you
worked.
So it's 50,000 to take a girlout of the bar.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
The way we did it.
It's like he doesn't want topay that money to the bar with
nothing.
But look on the way he pays byfive.
It's almost two months yeah andit's more than the price.
Take me out the bar yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
But if he take you out of the bar, in his mind he
might think, oh, so I just paid.
Now it's up to you.
You want to earn money, earnmoney you know, what I mean, so
he maybe expect you to go walk7-11, I don't know.
Just giving an example yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But that time it's like, okay, he won, but he
doesn't like to pay me the price.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I said and he won you want you, we are talking for
you not for the bar for me.
So let's say I'm just giving anexample.
Let's say you said 20 000 forone month.
That's just a number, itdoesn't matter how much yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
So the way is, like he also, what I do is I do like
separate day.
He paid for separate day, payfor each day and he and he needs
to get low price.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
for what do you mean by low price?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Means like from the price.
Okay, a sample like for eachday.
Ask for 3,000.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
For you.
Okay, let's say 3,000 for you.
Oh, you're a very expensivepimp.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I'm an expensive girlfriend and he asked me like
15 000, like low price, likehalf and half okay.
Then I said like no, is thatwhat we talking before, it's
what we do before.
And then you say okay and thenlike you're gonna ask low price
because the problem like Idoesn't have sex with him, or
(11:03):
you don't have a sex with himand yeah and pay for just stay
just hang out together, justhang out together and I feel
like what is?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
it doesn't what we did before, it doesn't fare
about me and how long beforethat you were talking about,
like what is going to happen,like before even he came to
thailand, right?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like I don't know, I'm
asking yeah, yeah, we're talkingabout the prize before even
before he's in thailand.
Yeah, before yeah and then whencoming, and then change plans
like and I feel like um hedoesn't.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Maybe you know in picture you look nice, then he
meet you face to face.
He don't like maybe you uglyface to face, not like that.
We stay for Shit.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
We stay for a few weeks.
I can say and then after that Ifeel like I don't like to have
sex every time.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
You don't have the feeling right.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It doesn't feel like.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Of course you're not a sex toy, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
You're a person.
Yeah, then he asked me to alittle person is?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I said like, okay, sorry wait, let me get it right.
So when you tell him you don'twant to fuck all the time, he
said okay, I want to pay youless because of that.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, fuck sake and then I'm saying like all, no
matter what, I don't want yourmoney and I don't want to be
like you think I'm a toy for asec.
Yeah, and that's why I told himokay, all right, I'm back to
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work.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Looking on this Okay, that sucks, I'm sorry.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
You had this experience.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That like very bad experience, yeah, and I feel
like, well, I'm being back towork much better, more than to
stay in this situation yeah,it's very uncomfortable, yeah
because, like, see if you withthem and doesn't, on that time
it doesn't boyfriend, girlfriend, just lady in a bar, this is a
customer.
And then, like you see how youtreat me and see how I treat you
(13:10):
, it doesn't really fair on it.
That's why I've been back towork.
I did like back to work for afew days and yeah, he's been
back back to his country no,like um back to the bar and look
for you look for me and then,okay, I give you the same price
you ask and then bring backtogether fuck so how can you
(13:33):
trust him after that?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
well, the way is he pay yeah, this is not what I ask
.
I'm not asking if you pay ornot.
I say personally how can youtrust him after something like
this?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I don't trust in.
How do you say that?
I don't trust what they said,but just trust from how they act
, like how they.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
So if he act better and now he pay money, so you
don't care.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Don't care.
I mean the way it's like youjust see from if you really love
each other as like a boyfriend,girlfriend, that thing doesn't
happen.
I mean it's like for money andwhatever, but the way it's like
(14:22):
I'm in him still be customer andlady from the bar, yeah, so I
doesn't care about, you're gonnalove me or not just money?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
okay, wait, wait, that's interesting because, you
know, I had this conversation Iwill not say with who, but
someone from bitchy lily a fewdays ago, and she's not a young
lady, right?
And she says she don't believein love.
She says for her everyforeigner man she meets it's
customer.
She doesn't believe in loveanymore with foreigners Because
(14:53):
many people lie to her andbullshit and say, oh, I love you
, and the next day they go fuckother girl.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, you have the same experience.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Wow, that's hard.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
No, no, I'm hard the same as like no, no, I'm serious
, I'm not joking, I'm going tosay it.
Like that night I said a paybar, like I said well, we meet
each other out there, you cannow be friends.
Then I see him with a lady in7-Eleven.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, like a pay bar.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Take a lady in 7-Eleven yeah, like a pay bar
Take her out from the bar andthen like your bar, the same bar
, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Okay, at least he has some decency that is lady oh
okay.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Okay so.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
We are talking pussy lady, not cock lady.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So like we talk each each other, like okay, we're
gonna meet.
He said like we can meet afterhe finished hanging out with
friends and I thought like okay,maybe a pay bar, and then, yeah
, we meet up later.
And then what's going on?
Missing for all evening?
(16:00):
And then, like I go outside foreat and then I see him with a
lady I don't know where.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It's not like you follow him.
It's mistake, right.
It's not by mistake.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You see my mistake, I see them wow and and, from the
way it's like we're talkingbefore, like we're gonna meet up
when he finished hanging outwith friend.
So I feel like if I doesn't seethem from the mistake, maybe he
can lie to me like oh I justmeet my friend and I'm tired
yeah, I know fuck so that isthis make that?
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That is, make me feel like hedoesn't trust anything about
them.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Not that anything but you stopped believing in love
Because you're very young.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That time I was talking about you to stop
believing in love in the bar.
Remember, and then you said tome like you cannot decide.
Yeah, I'm not deciding, I'm notjumping people from just one
thing happening.
Just one thing happened andthat is like maybe that is make
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a lot of ladies in Patriaworking a bar for not believe in
love.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
that's way, that's why that's a reason it's really
hard.
Like I don't know, I neverwalked as a ladyboy in a bar,
right not yet, at least but Ithink, like first, when the
girls, the women or the ladyboygo walk in a bar, before they
start walking, I think in theirmind they think, oh, I might
(17:38):
meet a nice foreigner, yeah, andmaybe I'm lucky and he take me
out of the bar and we can havenice life together.
And then the reality kicks in.
It's like almost everyone is anasshole.
Yeah, like I want to ask you apersonal question.
Okay, normally, when you havelike a long term customer, which
(17:58):
means not just for one day-let's say, customer, now two
weeks, two weeks, most of themtreat you like a sex toy.
No, no, no weeks.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Most of them treat you like a sex toy.
No, no, not most of them, butfor me it's like Some.
Some of them treat me like ayeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You can say that Tysec, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Some like, okay, like to stay with me for long, but
they treat me like a toy, say ithas to say every night whatever
, blah, blah and not care if youwant or don't want, like they
think they pay.
They have to get it yeah, yeah,wow then, but some just stay for
long.
But doesn't treat me like a toysex toy, not toy sex toy, a
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sick toy.
So the way is like I'm stillkeep you know, I'm still contact
with who treat me not like asick toy and yeah, we stay for a
long, long time and doesn'thave any problem with the pay
bar and money to keep me eachday like that yeah, but then I
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guess you have less, lesscustomers because of that right
yeah, that's why you stop trustthis man and the other man and
his friend.
You know they are assholes andeventually maybe you have only
one or two good customers yeah,and I'm just feeling like yeah,
and I'm just feeling like, forexample, maybe that's it's about
like make, make that lady mindwho work in the bar like to pay,
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like like to go for short time,more than a long time.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Maybe that's, that's the reason so because they go
short time, it just okay.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I know we fuck, I get money and I not have to see him
anymore yeah and not about anymore, was like doesn't have to
think about jealous or boyfriend, girlfriend, girlfriend, like
that.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
That's why you get jealous sometimes about
customers Before I have.
So even if you know hiscustomer and only customer, you
see him with other girl or lady,it doesn't matter, and you get
a little bit feeling like, oh,why he do that.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, but for that thing it's made me feel like,
okay, you work in a bar, theyare customary, they're not your
boyfriend yeah and then youdoesn't.
You cannot have feeling jealousabout that, but jealous jealous
about money is gone oh, so Icould have this money, but
someone else took this money.
Yeah, you should just changeyour mind and so it is money
(20:36):
oriented at the end no, no, no.
That time is make me think likethat.
First I think about likejealous about love, why he yeah,
he with other girl and not withme.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Like that also.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I'm sure that when he back home he promised you, yeah
, the most beautiful things,yeah but that thing is like it's
much, much better to shame mymind to to jealous about love
but jealous about money, yeah,and that is a hard life.
Yeah, but this is from from meworking about.
I understand who would like toprefer to go with customer for
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short time.
Would like to prefer to go withcustomer for a short time.
Much more than, much more thanto go for a long time and you
also start to think like thatyourself yeah, yeah, yeah, that
time.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And no, I mean now for now I mean now you're out of
the bars right you not walk thebars anymore but, as we said
before, you do freelancesometime and whatever.
So let's say, someone contactyou and say, okay, I want you
short time or long time, you candecide.
Yeah, in your mind you think,oh, better show time not have to
(21:44):
deal with it, yeah, yeah, let'smeet, fuck, give me money and
fuck off yeah, yeah, yeah, it'slike, is it?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
is it looking like a work more than like a
relationship like that, morethan fire relationship?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I don't know if I can do this.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
It's very frustrating .
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, it's like maybe some guy complained about like
why ladyboy or lady would liketo go a short time, doesn't like
to go hang out.
Have a good time.
Because of what?
Because of you guys, I'm fine,yeah you treat them like a sick
toy.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
You treat them like a shit yeah, and if you do take,
as you said, if you do take mefor a long time and after one or
two days you are tired and sickof me and then you fuck someone
else and make excuses.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Like better, just tell me hey, I don't want to
fuck with you anymore, that's it.
Yeah, that's it, and that'smore, that's better.
I think you will evenappreciate it.
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Thank you for saying that.
Yeah, thank you for saying that.
Yeah, thank you for saying that.
Make me know what is true andthen like, okay, I'll leave you,
just to stay by your own.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, no problem.
If you want to fuck again, letme know.
You just have to pay.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, right, exactly, but doesn't wait my time to
hear about any ex-cubes orsomething like that.
So wait, that's a Maybe.
It's just like much better tojust stay in the relationship
and everything about yeah but if, if I will step back for a
(23:21):
minute and I will talk againabout scott.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Right, again, he's not here, but I'm allowed to
talk about it.
I know two facts about him.
First of all, I know he's asensitive guy.
Right, you know him.
He's a good guy, he's agood-hearted guy and he does
search for a real meaningfulrelationship.
(23:45):
But at the same sentence healso says listen, let's say I be
Scott, right, and I'minterested in you, and I say,
tim, I really like you, I enjoyour time together.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
But sometimes.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I want to fuck other ladies.
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I feel like okay.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
But I like you, I enjoy you, but I want to fuck
other ladies sometimes.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Oh, so that is what it's like.
Okay, phoebe me, I gotta say it.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, we can stay together.
But we doesn't boyfriendgirlfriend.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
So again immediately when they say that he's becoming
a customer again.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, and you can't go fuck other lady, but you can
stay with me also If you want.
You pay that way.
He's like because of what?
Because you decide to like togo have sex with other lady?
No, not decide, he talked withyou about it first.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
He asked.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, he asked, and you would like to go have sex
with another.
So that is not the way.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's not a relationship.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
That's not the relationship.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Well, there are many kinds of relationships, let's be
honest.
So it's not a monogamousrelationship, right, but some
people can be in an openrelationship.
I'm not saying that's for you,I'm just saying in general.
Yeah, in general so maybe someother girl already, where we say
, oh yeah, no problem, as longas I can fuck other people too,
okay yeah, it depends on whatthey design yes, it's like but
(25:27):
for me it's just that's what Ithat's like.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Hmm, look on, trust each other, okay, if, if, uh,
okay.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Scott said like okay, what want to?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
go have sex with other lady sometimes sometimes
and, but I would like to spendtime with.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Every night we sleep together, but sometimes I go
fuck, okay, so let's say likehow are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
you think about like um jealous or not?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
me, I mean it's like for a lady.
Yeah, again, not everyone isthe same like I'm not a jealous
person me myself, I'm really nota jealous person?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Me myself.
I'm really not a jealous person.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Like.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I understand.
If someone wants to be with me,he will be with me, she will be
with me and if someone doesn'twant to be with me, it's okay,
no problem.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
For me.
I'm jealous, but look onsituation.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The way is like if you decide to stay as like a
customer, so I'm not jealous.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
But decide to stay as like a boyfriend girlfriend
probably I'm jealous Because ofwhat.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
The day, that day or that night you with other, but
could stay with me.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
But you choose to go fuck.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, but you choose to go fuck other lady, but you
stay, you stay, you stay with methis time'm.
But you choose, yeah, fuck,yeah, but you should to go fuck
other lady.
But you said, you say, you sayyou stay with me this time.
I'm your girlfriend and I'mlike why you're why, why you
treat me like this much betterto let me, you know, like, let
me go earn more money, yeah anddoesn't have a feeling like
(27:17):
about lonely or something likethat.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Okay, it's very complicated, you know yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
It's very complicated and that's like.
That's why I'm for me.
It's much better.
You say, okay, I go fuck ladyor lady boy on this time because
, um, I want, okay, well, youwant.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So we stop boyfriend girlfriend and, but in general I
I this is very importantquestion because I think our
listeners do care about that.
Yeah, in general, do you thinkthat it's possible to find love
in Pattaya?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Really you don't think it's possible to find?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
love in Pattaya.
Love, love is not For me, loveis feeling.
But the way love abolishes.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
I asked.
You're right, I asked the wrongquestion.
Do you think it's possible tofind commitment in Pattaya?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
For me it's hard no.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Really.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
That's so sad you know, as like now.
I try to you know that.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
We are not going to talk about it Because we said we
will not involve your personallife into it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I know the situation.
But I'm talking, like talkinglike okay, me and you know many
of the same people yeah right,and I know many of them heard
the most beautiful promises inthe world and at the end of the
day, end of the day, nothing ishappening.
(28:46):
Right, right, but not all guysare bad not all guy let's say
you know what, I will begenerous.
Let's say, 20 of the guys thatcome here actually looking for
love yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But the way is like, if you, if you feeling that's a
feeling, but okay, you see, okay, that guy doesn't come looking
for love, but you're looking forlove, you just left them and
you just find out and maybe,maybe you lucky, maybe lucky and
get match.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
This is hard automatically, I think you know
trust anyone anymore no like,even if anyone that you meet
online or whatever, or evensomeone you already know for one
or two years, I think you stoptrusting people.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Trust is like trust in what they say and not really
trust in what they say.
Not at all.
I can't trust them from whatthey do.
You told me it can't trust themfrom what they do.
Yeah, you told me.
Yeah, it doesn't say that.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You are saying the same thing that my wife used to
say to me.
I asked her why do you like me?
In the beginning we just metright, and after two, three
months, and then we start to bein a relationship.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I say why do you trust me?
You?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
say I trust you, but I don't love you.
But you show me, you show methat you are serious about this
but you not say about that youwere willing to.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
It's not only about the money, but the process.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
You were only with me and you took me out of the bar
and you agreed to pay a certainamount that we I still need to
help her family or whatever itdoesn't matter, I understand wow
yeah, is it so
Speaker 2 (30:40):
the lady so the actions from from from.
Lady is like lady or probablymost of lady, and yeah thing
like that doesn't trust anyone.
But when you say lady you meanlady or lady boy you mean in
general, in general like well, Ithink it's just most people do
that also, like when they havebad experience, so they're gonna
(31:05):
stop to trust.
Trust in anyone, but just trustis it love or not?
From what?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
yeah, but before I ask you if you believe in love
in in here, and you sayautomatically no, I don't
believe anymore.
No, and you're not stayed herethat long only, let's say two
years right year and a half whatabout?
The people that walk the busfor 10 years.
Yeah, what about them?
They?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I think they don't believe anything anymore yeah,
for me, it's just for me, it'sjust like I.
I doesn't trust in what theysay, but I trust from, yeah, how
they act like or show me.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
But for who working here for a long time, it's like
they just stay there by day youknow it's like the, the lady I
told you before that I spoke inin a peachyy Lily.
I asked her like and when youneed hug and when you need sex
or whatever, because she's notgoing even with customers, I say
what you do when you need that.
(32:04):
You know what she said.
She said I go pay men, I gokaraoke, I pay men to fuck me, I
pay men to hug me, that's it.
I don't care.
I will pay men, thai men thatwork there to do what I need,
and I will be the Thai men thatwork there to do what I need and
I will be the customer, but Idon't.
I rather pay than be playedwith yeah, I see I understand.
(32:26):
By the way, for the listeners,if you don't know, it's a thing
here.
There are bars that have meninside and those are for the
ladies and ladyboys, like theycan go, and they pay money for
get attention and fuck orwhatever with the men I mean
that before also really but itdoesn't pay any money for me oh,
you get for free.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
No, no, no I just hang out with friend how was it?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
huh, it's not weird for you to go to such a place.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
No, I enjoy it I feel , I feel like I just had room
with friend okay, but my friendhad men by his side so she
choose a man?
Yeah, she paid for him likedoesn't like a pay for half
steak, like that.
Doesn't like to pay about athousand by two thousand but pay
for drink.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
It's like that oh, so maybe it's not the same that
she told me, because she told meshe go to this place.
Yeah, she buy out the man, shetake her to the room, he fuck
her, he hug her and then he fuckoff yeah, but some, some, some,
for it's like a bar.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
But that's not like a bar, it's like a pub, nightclub
like that, more oh but youstill have to pay some pay for
drink yeah, like, uh, the wayit's like pay for them and then
they can stay for your for hourdepends doesn't depends on drink
, but is it like I want to know?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
is it like the tomboy bars?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
that I went before.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think yeah, so in the tomboy bar
we were supposed to go togetherbut you ditched me.
You remember that you'resupposed to, it doesn't?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
matter.
You ditched me, you remember,I'm fast asleep.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
It doesn't matter, I'm not angry, I'm just saying
so.
We were supposed to go together, right, yeah?
And there it's happening likethat.
So there is an auction, so allthe tomboy's are standing in a
line, and then you can say oh, Iwant tomboy number 12.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, I have to give them a drink For one, but you
had to keep the drink for one ortwo, like that.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
No, no, before the drink first you have to pay just
for her to come.
Oh really.
So I remember I went one timewith one of the ladies in
Delirious together and we choosea tomboy, we paid 250 baht.
Then she come, stay with us andthen you buy her drinks.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, yeah, like that .
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Similar like that.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Okay, that sucks, that's not fun.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
But it is like, and they stay for an hour and then
they go back Again, again, andthen you have to buy them again.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, wow, so it's the same thing.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
So well, I see that, and then I see them have fun
happy.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, they are entertainers, right, they will
dance and laugh and make youfeel good with yourself.
But for me it's like I'm justcoming in and hanging out with
friends and everything I feellike I'm not trying to make you
be like your sex alcoholic, sexaddict, that you have to pay for
men.
No, no, no, I mean I cannot sayit like.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
That's why I understand who's here for a long
time.
That's why I understand like,okay, now I know why there's a
trust in any life, anythingabout life with the planet or
anything else like that.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Okay so I will ask you another question.
Let's say there is someone thatlistens to us, right, that
actually loves some Thai lady orlady boy or whatever, and he
really wants to be in arelationship with her.
What's your advice for them?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
For this it depends on how long you are a guy.
Let's say they know for twoyears Two years.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
But now, after two years, he decides wow, I love
this person and I want to spendthe rest of my life with him.
With her, with him, it doesn'tmatter.
What's your advice for him toactually make them feel that
it's real?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
the way it's like you just say that, as the as who
you're you talk with, who youare being with, like, um, you
like to be boyfriend, girlfriend, but yeah, if is it for two
years, probably, yeah, probably,say yes, like we know each
other for a long time, and then,like, prefer to be
(36:42):
boyfriend-girlfriend.
And the way it's like you'regoing to leave the bar or going
to pay for a bar it doesn't,doesn't doesn't end the
disadvice.
I mean, it's like for for lady,for normal people in here.
Patia, you work, it doesn'tmatter about like working in a
(37:04):
shop, coffee shop or salon, butyou know them each other for
over two years and one bigboyfriend, girlfriend.
So yeah, look on, look on howlong you're, you know each other
and doesn't change yeah, butwhat, what?
Speaker 1 (37:21):
what should he say to that person in order to make
that person believe him thathe's serious about it?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
you just do what you do before.
I mean, it's's like you be thesame person, as you know, from
the first time.
That's not like okay, I want tobe with you like a boyfriend,
girlfriend, and then you'retalking together for all month,
like month, two month, threemonth, call video call and then
(37:50):
like, make a plan, whatever, andthen coming up here and then
change, change.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Acting different.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, acting different.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Oh, this is what you mean by stay yourself, like, do
as you said before, don't comehere, and then get tempted by
all the other options you havehere.
You want to be with that person.
Be with that person.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
For me it's like like yeah, because, uh, some people,
okay, I had before.
It's like say like many wordsand then like, okay, I gotta
come here and stay with you,blah blah.
And then for for tuesday,change from the plan is like all
(38:37):
the plan is like fucked up.
What he says doesn't happenwhat he plan, it doesn't happen.
I doesn't, I doesn't understand.
Sit and talk and then like well, well, maybe it just depends on
sit and talk and then like well, well, maybe it just depends on
(38:59):
what I did make him have thatmind happen and then make him
change, or what he did and makemy mind change also.
So that's why, if it gonna maketo be like strong, keep your
word.
If you promise something, do itif you promise to want to do
(39:22):
something, do it, but if you notdo it, it's just like because,
that's like to make hope don'tmake
Speaker 1 (39:31):
hope don't give false hope.
Yeah, don't give false hope.
Yeah, don't give false hopelike um okay, I cannot be with
you.
I'm gonna bring you to be thatsomewhere that and then you come
and you just go to the bartogether and that's it not, not
like go to the bar together, goby your own and leave.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Like that, I'll leave lady alone yeah, and she, she
waited for you, right yeah, andit's like well, so I'm here,
okay, okay, like I had before.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
So it's like coming, make plan everything and then,
like he, go by his own and I'msitting in a room alone.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
How do you feel when this happened?
Speaker 2 (40:17):
and I feel like I'm.
I doesn't feel lonely, but Ifeel like when I'm here, you
know, I have room, I have myroom.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I have to wait in his room.
Yeah, he's going to have funyeah and I feel like shit.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
okay, I'm hanging out with my friend, I go blah, blah
and then, when coming up, notseeing me, never, not seeing me
in the room when you go, youmove Blah, blah.
It's like, yeah, is it whatthey can't decide?
That it's me.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
They cannot control me, I understand, but they want
to stay in them, it sounds morelike you're not a person, you're
a bit yeah, you know what Imean by best like yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I'm not saying you are the dog, okay yeah but oh,
stay home, I go do my thing yeahfor me and be excited when I
come.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
yeah, but I'm not, I don't.
I'm not pets feel like itdoesn't matter.
Just hang out, see friends,stay with who wants to stay with
.
That's the means to stay withmen.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Of course no, we are not talking about.
Oh, he goes somewhere, so I gofucking other man, we're just
talking about decency.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Decency.
Yeah, it's like Much better to.
Just leave me alone.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
And decide.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Like hey, pim, listen , I'm going with my friend.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
So see you later.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
You go to your room or whatever, see you later.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
It's much better than just Stay here I go, much
better.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
You know, when I spoke with Scott, and not only
with Scott actually this adviceI gave to a few people.
So, I told them that, in myopinion, in order to create a
real relationship, out of thissituation, which is a sex worker
meeting a customer.
Yeah, my advice was try toactually create it.
(42:16):
So what do I mean?
Okay, she wants you to take outof the bar.
Right, she wants you to pay,pay, whatever.
I would say you know what.
Okay, I really like you.
Right here, let's pretend Ireally like you.
I don here, let's pretend, kim,I really like you.
I don't like you to work in thebar anymore.
So I want you to buy out of thebar, but I want you to promise
(42:37):
me that you will do your best tofind another job, like a
regular job, whatever you want.
Go work in a shopping center,go work 7-Eleven, I don't care.
I want you to show also thecommitment that I'm putting
inside by actually finding a wayto provide for yourself also.
You think that's a good idea?
That's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Would you follow that ?
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Of course you would say, yeah, okay, I mean, if
someone you like, you would say,okay, I want to try yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I do.
I probably do also like wellpay.
I mean like, yeah, support meevery month, like that, then I
will do the best I can the bit Ican do, the job I can do.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Maybe I go back study also yeah, of course, but do
something, not just stay home.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
And yeah, that's it yeah, because it's it's like
waste money.
Understand, it's called wastemoney.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, but I'm talking from the foreigners side
foreigners yeah I will explainso when you want to create a
relationship, a realrelationship with two person.
They have their own life, yeah,so she walks, I walk, right, we
.
I have my friends, she have herfriends.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
It's not have to be oh, I bought you out of the bar
and now you have to stay with meall the time no, not like so
try to create like a space evenyeah, try, but sometimes it's
like space even, but it's makelike feeling doesn't trust each
other yeah, but if let's say,you know me for a long time I
tell you listen, let's say
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I already bought you out of the bar and everything
and I say listen I'm going withmy friends today.
I don't know if you want tojoin.
You can join if not can we meetlater?
I think that's very fair that's, it's fair.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
but you know what I had.
I had like we had separate part.
Like time you meet, like he'smy friend, I meet friend, Then
like he doesn't trust in me, hethink I don't like man, you
think you go fuck.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Oh and.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Wait, did you go fuck ?
Speaker 2 (44:45):
No, okay, who I meet you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Who I go to see, as you my.
I come from my podcast.
Yeah, I know, and then you knowtalking in general yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
And then it's like what is this how?
You know me for a long time andthen you, you doesn't trust in
me.
Yeah, for, for, for what I doin here and that's kind of your
job.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
what we are doing right now, yeah, and it's like
is this?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
maybe that's why is this make it's annoying.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Annoying, annoying Okay.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Because I trust in them, but then that's trusting
me.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
You know that's very depressing in general.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah and then like okay, well, it depends on that
thing, maybe together try tofind out what we can do the base
, or maybe it's tough.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Yeah, I understand what you mean when I say you
don't have to stuck, be stuck ineach other's ass all the time
and not mean physically, I meanthey stay together all the time.
Sometimes it's okay to say,okay, listen, you know what I
think.
Today I'm going to just go withmy friends.
And if you want to do something?
Let me know Like normalrelationship.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Because it's really confusing for people when you
are let's say you are a sexworker and I'm a customer right
and it can really confusebecause some people I will not
say the name, but I know someguys that expect that if they
pay the lady, she have to fuckwith him three times a day how
(46:25):
you can fuck three times a day.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
No, this one.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
If not, he's angry.
He say fuck off alright, soyou're gonna.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Then is this like how you can fight, how you can
fight?
Who can hesitate you for threetimes?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
he can fight, he can fight, so yeah yeah, yeah, but
it's that's that will nevercreate a relationship.
No, never, because sometimesyou're not in the mood and you
say, listen, I don't want tofight today.
What the problem?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
hey, buddy relax and then feel like and then feel
like if you want that, but youwant that to make to be a
relationship also, what the shit?
Yeah, but what you do For threetimes in a day, it doesn't
gonna make a relationship.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
It can If you both want it, but not if it's coming
For one side.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
So yeah, I understand that way With the way I have
had something like that.
Okay, you know what?
Fuck it.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Let's talk about something else.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah so.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
I have two things to talk about.
First of all, I have actuallyone another thing to talk about,
but I want to give a shout out.
All right, so a few days ago Iwill not say exactly which day,
because I know why I don't wantto say I will not say exactly
which day, because I know why Idon't want to say but me, you,
scott, and another one of ourfriends, we went together to a
(47:56):
karting place.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
So it's called Easy Kart.
They have two places.
By the way, it's not paid.
They are not paying us to saythat, right, I'm just telling
that because we enjoyed it.
Yeah so it's called Easy Kart.
They have two locations tellingthat because we enjoyed it.
Yeah, it's called easy cart.
They have two locations.
One of them is near bali high.
Uh, bali high pier pier, thankyou.
And the second one is near themarket yeah so it's an easy.
(48:21):
It's a cart, a go-kart, racingtrack, and they have like few
options and we paid, each onepaid 2000 baht.
But I don't know that yeah, 2000baht for a person, but we get
three times that we can use it.
So we used it one time already,yeah, and we can.
(48:42):
You can come the next day ifyou want and use it again.
Yeah, and the carting that weused can go, I think, up to 70,
yeah, 70 kilometers per hour, sothey are pretty fast.
Yeah, and the truck.
So they have two trucks, like ababy truck and the regular
truck.
So the baby truck is 300 metersand the regular truck.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
What we did is 900 meters I'm gonna say that time
is so hard.
Yeah, it was hard for you.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
You had an accident.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
I had accidents too you crashed into the walls.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
I had an accident from the start yeah, immediately
from the start, and then youcrashed into the wall and they
had to go and actually rescueyou, take you out because you
stuck under the tires.
Yes, but it was first time foryou go-karting right, so for me
also.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Well, for me it's first time for you go karting
right, so for me also well, forme it's first for drive the car
like a, you know, like like acar because it's very, it's not
have, it doesn't have powersteering, yeah so you really
have to fight with the steeringwheel, yeah, yeah and that is
like you were scared.
I was scared.
I gotta say, like I scream allthe time that's talking about.
(49:51):
But you don't cheat yourself,just scream.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Huh, you don't cheat yourself, you're just screaming,
I scream, not shit.
No, no, no, no.
Maybe it's gonna happen, maybea little bit it's gonna happen,
but I try to not have I gottagonna say, like I'm screaming
all the time, you guys likeScott, you and another friend
(50:16):
you guys like drive past me allthe time I drive so fast like
yeah, but we, we didn't crashinto you
you crashed by yourself all thetime by the way, our other
friend that were with us.
She have like drivingexperience.
Yeah, so she was actually kindof good.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
I gotta say yeah, yeah, it's like so that's how I
feel like why you take his carto drive.
Yeah, but you need to improve.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Next time you will be better.
I promise you, next time youwill be better.
I promise you, next time youwill crash.
Only one time, not two timesOkay, maybe three.
But you know what I reallyliked about this place, and I'm
not joking.
Yeah, I like to Cut the tracks,cut the carts themselves, cut
everything.
This place is open until 1 am,so at night, right?
(51:09):
So?
You can come nighttime, it'snot that hot.
Not that hot no sun and you canenjoy.
There is good lighting overthere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
And it's really nice to come at the nighttime and a
very nice place also yeah.
I will show you how it lookslike from afar.
I gotta say, like how someonestay from far away and they see
my posts on.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
They really take a picture like I'm looking,
looking at you from power view,like that really.
Yeah, when we were there,someone knew that and they take
your pictures no, they take like, not, not my but like the whole
racing track from from the skylike really yeah, I show you how
pretty in the, how pretty likeit's really nice so my at least
it's my okay, you didn't enjoyyourself, next time will be
better.
But I my recommendation like, ifyou want like a chill night and
(51:54):
not just go get drunk every day, just give it a try.
It's really nice.
And again, it's not the paradepromotion, we just went up and
we really enjoyed that we werein toronto.
Yeah, well, I was, I don't know.
You were sus a bit.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
I gotta say that it's like it's good to try.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Next time you will be better.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
And the second thing I want to talk about.
So actually, when you came here, there was someone with me,
yeah, and she was like bruisedbecause she had fighting today,
yeah, so I want to tell youwhat's going on today, right,
and it's okay because I gotpermission about this also.
So, first of all, today I meetScott and I meet Michelle.
(52:41):
You know my usual guys right.
Our friends.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yeah, our friends, and you are busy.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Our friends what you don't consider them your friends
.
I mean, like our friends.
Yeah, we are a nice group ofpeople, yeah, yeah.
So, and you were asleep today,so you were busy, yeah, so we
met at Cindy's Secret at 11.
Mm-hmm, 11.20, actually,because everyone was late, I'm
(53:08):
the only one that came early.
And then from there we went toKaryu.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Karyu yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Karyu.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
From.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
Karyu.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
We went to Pichi Lili , yep, and from Pichi Lili we
went to Boho yeah.
Wait, it's not finished.
Yeah, from Boho to boho.
Oh yeah, yeah, wait, it's notfinished.
Yeah, from boho.
We went to sun.
After sun, scott was too tired.
He say fuck it, I want to gohome so scott went home and me
(53:41):
and michelle kept like we wentto flex and after flex we said
what now?
Like it's already six in themorning, where can we go?
So I want to see if you guesswhere we go.
Six in the morning, epic yeah,we go Epic Bar, we go Epic Bar.
So Epic Bar is a bar inSoyexite that is actually
(54:03):
opening really late at night andit keeps working until like the
afternoon.
So everyone that wants to justkeep partying.
It's not a club, it's a bar.
We play pool over there, wehave some drinks, yeah, and
normally it's a mixed place.
So all the freelancers thatwant to go there they're not
actually ladies or ladyboys thatwalk there, yeah, it's only
(54:25):
freelancers.
So everyone can go.
And it was packed today.
It was full of people oh reallyyeah, so I met my friend here,
that which you already know,uh-huh and me and michelle was
sitting having fun drinking, andthen she joined us.
She was drinking with us, yeah,and then some other lady boy
(54:46):
came and someone that michalready know because he have
experience with her.
I don't know what happenedbetween them and he knew her and
she was talking with him, and Idon't know.
They start talking with eachother and then they start
punching each other.
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (55:06):
Who.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
So the one that was with me and the one that was
Michelle with Michelle juststart arguing.
Each one say something you knowthere was I will not repeat
that word, but very bad words inThai, like very bad words and
then immediately they start liketrying to punch each other so
(55:28):
we'd separate them, and thenthey just ran outside and keep
on fighting.
So both of them were bleedingRight and then me and Michelle
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
I don't like bleeding .
Come on, I'm not showing youanything.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
I just want to describe, and me and Michelle
went outside and we walked themapart.
The place was packed, so no oneeven noticed that.
You know Well many people knowus there, me and Michelle.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
We are regulars over there and Michelle is kind of
famous as you know she is, sheis famous.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
So everyone knows us.
So we went outside, weseparated.
But can you like why stuff likethat happen?
Side, we separate them.
But yeah, can you like whystuff like that happen?
It's always happening like thatbetween like freelancers.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah, you saw that before.
Probably I'm.
I never saw about fight ladyfight, but I'm just saw about
fight with, um, yeah, foreignersand customer with Thai.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
This was actually Lao with Lao, but it doesn't matter
for me it's like I doesn'tthink about lady fight before
and I try to start, like whathappened and like I know
something, that one of them wasspeaking bullshit and said like
oh, I fucked both of them, whichwas not true.
(56:53):
Like she said, yeah, I fuckedhim and I fucked the other guy
also uh-huh, so yep, which isnot true.
And she knew it wasn't true.
And why you say like that andit started like an argument.
Like that, and it started likean argument, but it was like
(57:15):
brutal fighting, you know, likepunches, and you saw the one in
my room before she was bruisedall her body was bruised.
So if they are, if they are noshorter, they don't like they
know each other from epic, Iguess, but they're not friends.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
Oh well, maybe it's about like Try to try to be like
I'm with them and I've beenbefore.
It's like a you're just, youjust just show dominance, like
oh, I know them, I fuck all ofthem, which is even if not true,
just to show how strong she is,just show.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
Maybe Because I don't think they were drunk no, me
and Michelle was extremely drunkExtremely, because you know
what's going on when you go outwith Michelle and me Like it's
heavy drinking all night.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
I know that One time before, so we had a lot of
drinking today.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
But, we didn't cause the fight.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
You know me and him, we are relaxed guys, when we go
together, we never cause a fight.
Yeah, we are very relaxed guys.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
Only Scott is getting crazy sometimes, but he already
went home.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
When Scott is getting crazy, you know what can make
him come down Give him highheels.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
Yeah, let him dance, it doesn him come down.
Give him high hill yeah, lethim dance, it doesn't matter.
Give him high heel and startdancing yeah, let's make him
come down yeah, but but it waslike in one second, from they're
talking together to punchingand scratching, and you know
okay well, from from I'm sayinghi, and then like, yeah, I'm
talk little.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
And the way she says, like because before they, they
had they had the problem before,oh, they had the history, yeah,
the history.
Oh, who stay here?
She don't want to, she don'twant to fight, so that's why
that history is just like calledout, it's like doesn't talk
(59:15):
about this until, like, theymeet each other again and then
like I said.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
So let's say maybe they had a fight before and now
because for some reason theystay in the same table, because
me and Michelle, michelle, thefight start again the girl over
here the girl over here saidthey have history and they don't
want to have fight.
Speaker 2 (59:38):
So that's why stop talking about that until that
lady coming up and meet heragain and start talking about
that again.
And then they are looking forthat lady, looking forward to
have fight with her.
So come, like us, like, yeah,show her off her.
And then like, yeah, just havefight, like that to her.
(01:00:00):
So about her about I'm notsaying who, right on who, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I'm talking in general why it's happening like,
yeah, they were not competingabout us yeah, yeah no, I had my
own here this on.
Yeah, it's not like we say, oh,there is one freelancer for two
guys no, it wasn't like that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
No, that's like that.
It's like about them.
It's about them have fight forthem, each other.
It doesn't doesn't anythingabout like um about man, it went
so fast.
Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
You know from two seconds that everything okay.
We are all drinking at thetable to punching each other and
scratching so that's why it'snot gonna be about jealous men
or whatever.
But something personal somethingpersonal and then, like they
have history before, I thinkyeah and, by the way, I want to
to say again Epic Bar is a greatplace.
(01:00:50):
I'm not saying that it'shappened.
It's the first time I seesomething that's happening in
Epic Bar.
Yeah, and it was packed andthere is never problems over
there.
So don't think that when I'msaying, oh, epic Bar, there is
always fights.
First time I see a fight.
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
You've been to Epic well, even with me sometimes.
Yeah, it's nice, it's quiet, noproblem.
Yeah, but maybe that is like abad day happened.
Not bad day, but it's like abad thing happened in the time.
But yeah, it's about impersonal.
Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Personal, really, they're gonna say it's very hard
, like it was hard for me andmichelle, not because we had to
fight, right, you know, me andMichelle, oh wait, I'm not as
big as Michelle, but we can likekick both of their asses in one
second, yeah, right.
But we just wanted to separateto make sure, yeah, like, they
are not fighting anymore.
And the people in the bar, theydidn't want to get involved,
(01:01:44):
yeah, yeah, so they just kickthem outside, fight outside.
Which was even more crazy, theytook both of them outside to
fight.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Because what is much better, like you want to fight,
you don't fight in my place,yeah, but separate yeah.
Separate.
Separate doesn't mean they'regoing to stop, they know,
separate for two seconds andfight again.
No, I mean kick one of them out.
(01:02:15):
Probably that's not the problembecause they know.
Maybe they know what they doit's like they meet here and
they fight.
Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yeah, because both of them are very regular for epic
bars.
Both of those girls, right?
So they are regular for epic.
Yeah, both of those girls,right?
Yeah, so they are regular inepic bars epic bar.
So maybe the staff know thehistory or what, what not, but
yeah it was crazy crazy, yeah,and then, after that, you
remember when you spoke with methat you are going to come this
(01:02:45):
and it take me a long time toanswer you this is the reason oh
yeah, because I was like, ohfuck, it's like we have to break
them up, you know I hear thesound like a screaming something
Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
yeah and then like when I tell you okay, later yeah
okay is this.
That's why I think it's likebut first I just buy some food
from 7-eleven and then I feellike, oh, probably, maybe I
could go oh fuck you, you eatalready.
I want to go eat soon that timeI feel like no, no, I just feel
we are going to eat after thisepisode I do okay, promise me
(01:03:20):
also we are going to eat afterthis episode.
Okay but that's how it's like,um, I think I can.
Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I can go to meet a guy.
Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Because I want to.
Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Finish this and make a podcast, something like that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
So why don't you come ?
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
You know what yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Wait, wait, wait.
You think we don't want you tocome?
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
I think it's about like I forget about my wallet,
whatever blah, blah, blah andthen I feel like I'm lazy, but
you know we love you, me andmichelle and scott.
Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
We always happy when you come but if I'm being there
sometime, uh, if I'm being thereand that's how I'm gonna coming
and they see, like what theheck fighting?
Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
yeah, no, I understand, but I, I just make
sure it's not like you feltyou're not welcome with us.
No, no, I'm not.
I'm not make sure it's not likeyou felt you are not welcome
with us.
Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
No, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
You promise me.
Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
I'm not have that feeling you cannot welcome, but
I have feeling I'm lazy person.
Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yeah, you are a lazy person.
You are a lazy person, but Ijust want to make sure, because
you know, wherever we go, wealways call you.
Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Yeah, yeah, that is about feeling you cannot welcome
.
Doesn't happen, okay, no thankyou.
Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
By the way, boho was empty today.
Oh, empty.
Empty me, michelle, two morecustomers, that's it.
And scott me, michelle andscott, and two more customers
yeah, the, yeah, there's a halffriend.
Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Yeah, I have friend sent me a message coming up also
, but unfortunately that's whysun was half full, not like
usual.
Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Usual, it's very hard to find the table easy today
and flex empty.
Empty maybe and it's a big labright 10 people inside.
Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
So yeah, maybe it depends on day this is what
Michelle said maybe, and it's abig lab, right 10 people inside.
So yeah, maybe it depends onday this is what Michel said.
Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Michel said like he think, because it's not the
weekend not the weekend, yeah,and last time we went there it
was the weekend, yeah, and itwas completely full.
Last time, you remember, wecouldn't even find the table.
They let us speak.
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Sidney the speaker yeah, yeah, they let us sit near
the speaker.
Yeah, yeah, it's just like sooh and we met Rich, also Rich.
Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
You know Rich, rich.
So it's the same guy, the olderguy that we met last time I
will not say who he went with,so he met by mistake.
He went to SoundClub and saidhey, and we were all together,
know me, him, scott and Michelle, but he came along this time
ask what happened, say no, Idon't, I don't want to take
(01:05:55):
anyone.
Like he been in deliriousbefore.
Then he went to 69 and then hejust say, fuck it, I want to go
oh, okay, okay, you know who I'mtalking about the other skinny
guy, white hair.
Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
It doesn't matter for the podcast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
But still so we met him also.
Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
So I think I talked everything I wanted to say about
today.
I had to like take out, takeout, take out.
I understand.
Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
I'm coming here and then.
Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
I want to listen also .
Because like yeah, we had like,like a hangout together for
last time uh about like uh fewdays ago.
Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Yeah, three days ago, and then after that I just I
just like home sleep yeah yeah,I feel like I'm missing.
Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
I'm missing something yeah, well, today you missed a
lot not something.
Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
but yeah, yeah, today I'm a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
But in general I hope the next times we will go out
there will not be such a dramaas today.
Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I don't fucking like this drama you know no drama, no
drama anymore, okay.
Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
So I think it's time to finish the episode.
I'm hungry.
Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Yeah, I'm hungry also , so that.
Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
What are you going to eat?
Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Kamikai chicken.
The episode.
I'm hungry, yeah, I'm hungryalso, so that, what are you
going?
Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
to eat.
Come and die chicken rice okay,so we will see if they have it,
I think downstairs okay okayand first of all listeners, I
want to thank you for listeningto us and, by the way, every
time you subscribe to us, itdoesn't cost you anything and
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You don't believe how much.
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We will just improve and thereis a plan.
I cannot share it yet, but oncewe reach a certain goal, which
I will talk about later.
We are going to make videoepisode in a professional studio
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Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Oh, really yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
I already checked everything and there is a nice
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professional studio withprofessional microphones, with
video and everything, and it'sgoing to be amazing.
And then, finally, you see howugly we are excited to show my
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Yeah, ugly face don't listen toher she's gorgeous and so, for
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(01:08:41):
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Subscribe and still listen to us, of course, of course.
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In one or two episodes, youwill start to remember it by
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I guess we see you next time,bye, bye.
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike and sadly I'm stilldoing this without my lovely,
lovely wife Sunari.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hi everyone, nice to see you again.
How are you Mike?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm okay.
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Probably lazy.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Lazy.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Lazy morning, so right now it's 9, 9.20 am in the
morning.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, on.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Friday yeah, on Friday, on this Friday, this
Friday and it wasn't an easynight for me at least.
So yeah, for me.
Last night I'm fall asleep.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, you told me, you feel not so good and yeah we
were supposed to record thisepisode yesterday with Scott.
But Scott is a loyal guy sowhen he heard you cannot come,
he said no, I'm not doing thiswithout Pimp.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm so sorry, Scott.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh, it's okay, and actually we had an interesting
night yesterday.
But before I tell you the night, I want to tell about something
that Scott actually told me.
So he's not here, but I got thepermission to talk about it.
Okay, cool.
So for the last few weeks,scott was seeing someone like on
(01:19):
a regular basis, right, so theystay together almost every day,
yeah, and it was very good atthe beginning, but then it
started to develop intorelationship, right, and when it
started to become arelationship, everything started
(01:41):
to get fucked up.
So.
So first it was about moneyissues Yep, because the lady
he's seeing she's still workingat a certain bar, right, I will
not say which bar, okay.
But she's still working in thebar and he's not happy with that
(02:02):
right.
Right, but he's also notwilling to pay to take her out
of the bar yeah, yeah understand.
But like he said to her, if youwill leave the bar I would pay.
But I only would pay if youfind another job.
But unfortunately for her,she's not from Thailand, so
she's from Laos, so it's noteasy for them to find a job in
(02:25):
here, yeahand everything like they went
together and then they break up.
Together and break up because Ithink there is some love
between them yeah but I wastalking with him and, like I
know from his point of view,right, you say why?
Why do I need to pay for thebar?
(02:46):
Like she just say, I leave thebar and she can stay with me.
So first of all I want to knowwhat?
What do you think about thepayment for the bar?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
for me it's like well , if she work in a bar the way,
like the bar has salary for her.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
No salary, no salary, no salary.
Okay for no salary.
This is another another,another, another way, but I
means like if her work in a barand with salary, so Probably
it's alright, it's okay to payfor, for taking off because like
, yeah, we are again.
We are not talking about bar,fine, yeah, right, yeah, we are
(03:28):
talking about permanently makeher stop walk, yeah right, but
about for the place, no salaryand everything is like from from
staff to make money like drinks, go with customer that's it.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So they are making money for the bar?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, they're probably making money for the
bar more than the bar pays forthem.
I feel like that is not reallyfair to pay and take them to
finish working at the bar.
It means for court money fromthe customer?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah.
But for example, let's say youwork at the bar, right, Someone
buy you out of the bar.
You don't get any money out ofit, only the bar.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Probably someplace, half like maybe like half and
half.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Some bars like no, not get any, nothing yeah so I
know for a fact this bar whereshe walk, only go to the bar,
everything.
So they asked him to pay 10,000baht in order to make her stop
walk Right.
But she don't have a contract,she not sign anything.
So in his mind and I understandwhy he say he say just, oh,
(04:40):
it's very easy, just tell themyou don't want to walk anymore
come stay with me, I will takecare, take care of you yeah,
this is.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
This is a much better way to to let's say, like
boyfriend and you love eachother, without about money.
But the money is not theproblem.
But the money is not theproblem.
Do?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
you know what I mean.
What is the problem?
You think the problem is it's?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
like you, just make sure you educate each other.
It doesn't have anything aboutcustomer and that thing happen.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, but like they don't know each other for many
years, they just met, let's say,two months ago.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And that's one thing, and also like he met her in the
bar right so if not the bar, hewill never meet her.
Well, actually, to be true to,to speak truth, he don't.
He didn't met her in that barhe met her in another bar when
she came for a party over thereall right, because it was a
(05:42):
birthday, yeah and then he, hereally liked how she looked and
everything and he bought her adrink.
And then she told him oh yeah, Iwork at a certain bar, you can
come meet me next day and he did, and I think they spent
together most of the last fewweeks so for me that way is
happening with me alsounderstand it's happened to me
(06:03):
also.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I understand it's like like being with someone and
I meet him when I'm working atthe bar before I come to work at
the last bar at work, then Ifeel like the way is, I doesn't
care about if it about maybeit's happened.
(06:25):
I mean, it's like if he talk tome like want to be boyfriend,
girlfriend, but doesn't want topay me, that's, I wanted pay for
taking off like that.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
But he said I am willing to pay you.
Yeah, not pay the bile.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, yeah, like that the way he's like look, look,
look on where your meetup I meandepends on you meet them at the
bar or just meet them in aplace like not working, not in a
working let's say in the shop,in the shop, yeah the way it's
like um, but I think this is.
(07:07):
It is under understand how theyfeeling when they pay without
um feeling love each other, justjust just pay for them and lose
money that way you're talkingabout the foreigners yeah, the
foreigners, like lady doesn'tget anything okay okay okay, his
(07:27):
girlfriend doesn't get anymoney from this money no, from
the payout money she don't getanything so why?
why he need to pay that rightyeah, yeah, it's much better to
give to his girlfriend like that.
That's what.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
That's what he thinks so she told him and again I'm
allowed to speak about it.
She told him listen, if youdon't want to pay me out of the
bar, at least pay the bar finefor one month.
So the bar fine at that bar is500 baht.
She just said okay, you don'thave to take me out, but you
want to stay with me?
I have to go walk.
(08:02):
If you want me not to go walk,at least pay the bar fine.
So it's 500 each day and plusshe needs to earn money, right?
So I don't know how much sheasked him for, but you know,
when money goes insiderelationship, it doesn't it's
always make problems, I see.
(08:26):
I think you had this problemalso.
I had it and how you solved it,like what he did in order to
make it better the way is.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I mean for for when.
That's how.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
That's how I'm still working about yeah, the first,
but not the second bar.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It's about the last time I work.
Oh, okay, that time.
What we do is like depends onthe price.
The price I ask is like At yourlast bar that you worked.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I know the price there it's 15,000.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know theprice at At your last bar that
you worked.
I know the price there it's15,000.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I know the price at the bar that last time you
worked.
So it's 50,000 to take a girlout of the bar.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
The way we did it.
It's like he doesn't want topay that money to the bar with
nothing.
But look on the way he pays byfive.
It's almost two months yeah andit's more than the price.
Take me out the bar yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
But if he take you out of the bar, in his mind he
might think, oh, so I just paid.
Now it's up to you.
You want to earn money, earnmoney you know, what I mean, so
he maybe expect you to go walk7-11, I don't know.
Just giving an example yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But that time it's like, okay, he won, but he
doesn't like to pay me the price.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I said and he won you want you, we are talking for
you not for the bar for me.
So let's say I'm just giving anexample.
Let's say you said 20 000 forone month.
That's just a number, itdoesn't matter how much yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
So the way is, like he also, what I do is I do like
separate day.
He paid for separate day, payfor each day and he and he needs
to get low price.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
for what do you mean by low price?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Means like from the price.
Okay, a sample like for eachday.
Ask for 3,000.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
For you.
Okay, let's say 3,000 for you.
Oh, you're a very expensivepimp.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I'm an expensive girlfriend and he asked me like
15 000, like low price, likehalf and half okay.
Then I said like no, is thatwhat we talking before, it's
what we do before.
And then you say okay and thenlike you're gonna ask low price
because the problem like Idoesn't have sex with him, or
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you don't have a sex with himand yeah and pay for just stay
just hang out together, justhang out together and I feel
like what is?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
it doesn't what we did before, it doesn't fare
about me and how long beforethat you were talking about,
like what is going to happen,like before even he came to
thailand, right?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like I don't know, I'm
asking yeah, yeah, we're talkingabout the prize before even
before he's in thailand.
Yeah, before yeah and then whencoming, and then change plans
like and I feel like um hedoesn't.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Maybe you know in picture you look nice, then he
meet you face to face.
He don't like maybe you uglyface to face, not like that.
We stay for Shit.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
We stay for a few weeks.
I can say and then after that Ifeel like I don't like to have
sex every time.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
You don't have the feeling right.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It doesn't feel like.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Of course you're not a sex toy, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
You're a person.
Yeah, then he asked me to alittle person is?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I said like, okay, sorry wait, let me get it right.
So when you tell him you don'twant to fuck all the time, he
said okay, I want to pay youless because of that.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, fuck sake and then I'm saying like all, no
matter what, I don't want yourmoney and I don't want to be
like you think I'm a toy for asec.
Yeah, and that's why I told himokay, all right, I'm back to
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work.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Looking on this Okay, that sucks, I'm sorry.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
You had this experience.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That like very bad experience, yeah, and I feel
like, well, I'm being back towork much better, more than to
stay in this situation yeah,it's very uncomfortable, yeah
because, like, see if you withthem and doesn't, on that time
it doesn't boyfriend, girlfriend, just lady in a bar, this is a
customer.
And then, like you see how youtreat me and see how I treat you
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, it doesn't really fair on it.
That's why I've been back towork.
I did like back to work for afew days and yeah, he's been
back back to his country no,like um back to the bar and look
for you look for me and then,okay, I give you the same price
you ask and then bring backtogether fuck so how can you
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trust him after that?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
well, the way is he pay yeah, this is not what I ask
.
I'm not asking if you pay ornot.
I say personally how can youtrust him after something like
this?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I don't trust in.
How do you say that?
I don't trust what they said,but just trust from how they act
, like how they.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
So if he act better and now he pay money, so you
don't care.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Don't care.
I mean the way it's like youjust see from if you really love
each other as like a boyfriend,girlfriend, that thing doesn't
happen.
I mean it's like for money andwhatever, but the way it's like
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I'm in him still be customer andlady from the bar, yeah, so I
doesn't care about, you're gonnalove me or not just money?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
okay, wait, wait, that's interesting because, you
know, I had this conversation Iwill not say with who, but
someone from bitchy lily a fewdays ago, and she's not a young
lady, right?
And she says she don't believein love.
She says for her everyforeigner man she meets it's
customer.
She doesn't believe in loveanymore with foreigners Because
(14:53):
many people lie to her andbullshit and say, oh, I love you
, and the next day they go fuckother girl.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, you have the same experience.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Wow, that's hard.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
No, no, I'm hard the same as like no, no, I'm serious
, I'm not joking, I'm going tosay it.
Like that night I said a paybar, like I said well, we meet
each other out there, you cannow be friends.
Then I see him with a lady in7-Eleven.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, like a pay bar.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Take a lady in 7-Eleven yeah, like a pay bar
Take her out from the bar andthen like your bar, the same bar
, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Okay, at least he has some decency that is lady oh
okay.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Okay so.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
We are talking pussy lady, not cock lady.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So like we talk each each other, like okay, we're
gonna meet.
He said like we can meet afterhe finished hanging out with
friends and I thought like okay,maybe a pay bar, and then, yeah
, we meet up later.
And then what's going on?
Missing for all evening?
(16:00):
And then, like I go outside foreat and then I see him with a
lady I don't know where.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It's not like you follow him.
It's mistake, right.
It's not by mistake.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You see my mistake, I see them wow and and, from the
way it's like we're talkingbefore, like we're gonna meet up
when he finished hanging outwith friend.
So I feel like if I doesn't seethem from the mistake, maybe he
can lie to me like oh I justmeet my friend and I'm tired
yeah, I know fuck so that isthis make that?
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That is, make me feel like hedoesn't trust anything about
them.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Not that anything but you stopped believing in love
Because you're very young.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That time I was talking about you to stop
believing in love in the bar.
Remember, and then you said tome like you cannot decide.
Yeah, I'm not deciding, I'm notjumping people from just one
thing happening.
Just one thing happened andthat is like maybe that is make
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a lot of ladies in Patriaworking a bar for not believe in
love.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
that's way, that's why that's a reason it's really
hard.
Like I don't know, I neverwalked as a ladyboy in a bar,
right not yet, at least but Ithink, like first, when the
girls, the women or the ladyboygo walk in a bar, before they
start walking, I think in theirmind they think, oh, I might
(17:38):
meet a nice foreigner, yeah, andmaybe I'm lucky and he take me
out of the bar and we can havenice life together.
And then the reality kicks in.
It's like almost everyone is anasshole.
Yeah, like I want to ask you apersonal question.
Okay, normally, when you havelike a long term customer, which
(17:58):
means not just for one day-let's say, customer, now two
weeks, two weeks, most of themtreat you like a sex toy.
No, no, no weeks.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Most of them treat you like a sex toy.
No, no, not most of them, butfor me it's like Some.
Some of them treat me like ayeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You can say that Tysec, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Some like, okay, like to stay with me for long, but
they treat me like a toy, say ithas to say every night whatever
, blah, blah and not care if youwant or don't want, like they
think they pay.
They have to get it yeah, yeah,wow then, but some just stay for
long.
But doesn't treat me like a toysex toy, not toy sex toy, a
(18:46):
sick toy.
So the way is like I'm stillkeep you know, I'm still contact
with who treat me not like asick toy and yeah, we stay for a
long, long time and doesn'thave any problem with the pay
bar and money to keep me eachday like that yeah, but then I
(19:09):
guess you have less, lesscustomers because of that right
yeah, that's why you stop trustthis man and the other man and
his friend.
You know they are assholes andeventually maybe you have only
one or two good customers yeah,and I'm just feeling like yeah,
and I'm just feeling like, forexample, maybe that's it's about
like make, make that lady mindwho work in the bar like to pay,
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like like to go for short time,more than a long time.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Maybe that's, that's the reason so because they go
short time, it just okay.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I know we fuck, I get money and I not have to see him
anymore yeah and not about anymore, was like doesn't have to
think about jealous or boyfriend, girlfriend, girlfriend, like
that.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
That's why you get jealous sometimes about
customers Before I have.
So even if you know hiscustomer and only customer, you
see him with other girl or lady,it doesn't matter, and you get
a little bit feeling like, oh,why he do that.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, but for that thing it's made me feel like,
okay, you work in a bar, theyare customary, they're not your
boyfriend yeah and then youdoesn't.
You cannot have feeling jealousabout that, but jealous jealous
about money is gone oh, so Icould have this money, but
someone else took this money.
Yeah, you should just changeyour mind and so it is money
(20:36):
oriented at the end no, no, no.
That time is make me think likethat.
First I think about likejealous about love, why he yeah,
he with other girl and not withme.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Like that also.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I'm sure that when he back home he promised you, yeah
, the most beautiful things,yeah but that thing is like it's
much, much better to shame mymind to to jealous about love
but jealous about money, yeah,and that is a hard life.
Yeah, but this is from from meworking about.
I understand who would like toprefer to go with customer for
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short time.
Would like to prefer to go withcustomer for a short time.
Much more than, much more thanto go for a long time and you
also start to think like thatyourself yeah, yeah, yeah, that
time.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And no, I mean now for now I mean now you're out of
the bars right you not walk thebars anymore but, as we said
before, you do freelancesometime and whatever.
So let's say, someone contactyou and say, okay, I want you
short time or long time, you candecide.
Yeah, in your mind you think,oh, better show time not have to
(21:44):
deal with it, yeah, yeah, let'smeet, fuck, give me money and
fuck off yeah, yeah, yeah, it'slike, is it?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
is it looking like a work more than like a
relationship like that, morethan fire relationship?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I don't know if I can do this.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
It's very frustrating .
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, it's like maybe some guy complained about like
why ladyboy or lady would liketo go a short time, doesn't like
to go hang out.
Have a good time.
Because of what?
Because of you guys, I'm fine,yeah you treat them like a sick
toy.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
You treat them like a shit yeah, and if you do take,
as you said, if you do take mefor a long time and after one or
two days you are tired and sickof me and then you fuck someone
else and make excuses.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Like better, just tell me hey, I don't want to
fuck with you anymore, that's it.
Yeah, that's it, and that'smore, that's better.
I think you will evenappreciate it.
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Thank you for saying that.
Yeah, thank you for saying that.
Yeah, thank you for saying that.
Make me know what is true andthen like, okay, I'll leave you,
just to stay by your own.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, no problem.
If you want to fuck again, letme know.
You just have to pay.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, right, exactly, but doesn't wait my time to
hear about any ex-cubes orsomething like that.
So wait, that's a Maybe.
It's just like much better tojust stay in the relationship
and everything about yeah but if, if I will step back for a
(23:21):
minute and I will talk againabout scott.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Right, again, he's not here, but I'm allowed to
talk about it.
I know two facts about him.
First of all, I know he's asensitive guy.
Right, you know him.
He's a good guy, he's agood-hearted guy and he does
search for a real meaningfulrelationship.
(23:45):
But at the same sentence healso says listen, let's say I be
Scott, right, and I'minterested in you, and I say,
tim, I really like you, I enjoyour time together.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
But sometimes.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I want to fuck other ladies.
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I feel like okay.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
But I like you, I enjoy you, but I want to fuck
other ladies sometimes.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Oh, so that is what it's like.
Okay, phoebe me, I gotta say it.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, we can stay together.
But we doesn't boyfriendgirlfriend.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
So again immediately when they say that he's becoming
a customer again.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, and you can't go fuck other lady, but you can
stay with me also If you want.
You pay that way.
He's like because of what?
Because you decide to like togo have sex with other lady?
No, not decide, he talked withyou about it first.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
He asked.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, he asked, and you would like to go have sex
with another.
So that is not the way.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's not a relationship.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
That's not the relationship.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Well, there are many kinds of relationships, let's be
honest.
So it's not a monogamousrelationship, right, but some
people can be in an openrelationship.
I'm not saying that's for you,I'm just saying in general.
Yeah, in general so maybe someother girl already, where we say
, oh yeah, no problem, as longas I can fuck other people too,
okay yeah, it depends on whatthey design yes, it's like but
(25:27):
for me it's just that's what Ithat's like.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Hmm, look on, trust each other, okay, if, if, uh,
okay.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Scott said like okay, what want to?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
go have sex with other lady sometimes sometimes
and, but I would like to spendtime with.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Every night we sleep together, but sometimes I go
fuck, okay, so let's say likehow are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
you think about like um jealous or not?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
me, I mean it's like for a lady.
Yeah, again, not everyone isthe same like I'm not a jealous
person me myself, I'm really nota jealous person?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Me myself.
I'm really not a jealous person.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Like.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I understand.
If someone wants to be with me,he will be with me, she will be
with me and if someone doesn'twant to be with me, it's okay,
no problem.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
For me.
I'm jealous, but look onsituation.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The way is like if you decide to stay as like a
customer, so I'm not jealous.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
But decide to stay as like a boyfriend girlfriend
probably I'm jealous Because ofwhat.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
The day, that day or that night you with other, but
could stay with me.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
But you choose to go fuck.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, but you choose to go fuck other lady, but you
stay, you stay, you stay with methis time'm.
But you choose, yeah, fuck,yeah, but you should to go fuck
other lady.
But you said, you say, you sayyou stay with me this time.
I'm your girlfriend and I'mlike why you're why, why you
treat me like this much betterto let me, you know, like, let
me go earn more money, yeah anddoesn't have a feeling like
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about lonely or something likethat.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Okay, it's very complicated, you know yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
It's very complicated and that's like.
That's why I'm for me.
It's much better.
You say, okay, I go fuck ladyor lady boy on this time because
, um, I want, okay, well, youwant.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So we stop boyfriend girlfriend and, but in general I
I this is very importantquestion because I think our
listeners do care about that.
Yeah, in general, do you thinkthat it's possible to find love
in Pattaya?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Really you don't think it's possible to find?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
love in Pattaya.
Love, love is not For me, loveis feeling.
But the way love abolishes.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
I asked.
You're right, I asked the wrongquestion.
Do you think it's possible tofind commitment in Pattaya?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
For me it's hard no.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Really.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
That's so sad you know, as like now.
I try to you know that.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
We are not going to talk about it Because we said we
will not involve your personallife into it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I know the situation.
But I'm talking, like talkinglike okay, me and you know many
of the same people yeah right,and I know many of them heard
the most beautiful promises inthe world and at the end of the
day, end of the day, nothing ishappening.
(28:46):
Right, right, but not all guysare bad not all guy let's say
you know what, I will begenerous.
Let's say, 20 of the guys thatcome here actually looking for
love yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But the way is like, if you, if you feeling that's a
feeling, but okay, you see, okay, that guy doesn't come looking
for love, but you're looking forlove, you just left them and
you just find out and maybe,maybe you lucky, maybe lucky and
get match.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
This is hard automatically, I think you know
trust anyone anymore no like,even if anyone that you meet
online or whatever, or evensomeone you already know for one
or two years, I think you stoptrusting people.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Trust is like trust in what they say and not really
trust in what they say.
Not at all.
I can't trust them from whatthey do.
You told me it can't trust themfrom what they do.
Yeah, you told me.
Yeah, it doesn't say that.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You are saying the same thing that my wife used to
say to me.
I asked her why do you like me?
In the beginning we just metright, and after two, three
months, and then we start to bein a relationship.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I say why do you trust me?
You?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
say I trust you, but I don't love you.
But you show me, you show methat you are serious about this
but you not say about that youwere willing to.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
It's not only about the money, but the process.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
You were only with me and you took me out of the bar
and you agreed to pay a certainamount that we I still need to
help her family or whatever itdoesn't matter, I understand wow
yeah, is it so
Speaker 2 (30:40):
the lady so the actions from from from.
Lady is like lady or probablymost of lady, and yeah thing
like that doesn't trust anyone.
But when you say lady you meanlady or lady boy you mean in
general, in general like well, Ithink it's just most people do
that also, like when they havebad experience, so they're gonna
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stop to trust.
Trust in anyone, but just trustis it love or not?
From what?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
yeah, but before I ask you if you believe in love
in in here, and you sayautomatically no, I don't
believe anymore.
No, and you're not stayed herethat long only, let's say two
years right year and a half whatabout?
The people that walk the busfor 10 years.
Yeah, what about them?
They?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I think they don't believe anything anymore yeah,
for me, it's just for me, it'sjust like I.
I doesn't trust in what theysay, but I trust from, yeah, how
they act like or show me.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
But for who working here for a long time, it's like
they just stay there by day youknow it's like the, the lady I
told you before that I spoke inin a peachyy Lily.
I asked her like and when youneed hug and when you need sex
or whatever, because she's notgoing even with customers, I say
what you do when you need that.
(32:04):
You know what she said.
She said I go pay men, I gokaraoke, I pay men to fuck me, I
pay men to hug me, that's it.
I don't care.
I will pay men, thai men thatwork there to do what I need,
and I will be the Thai men thatwork there to do what I need and
I will be the customer, but Idon't.
I rather pay than be playedwith yeah, I see I understand.
(32:26):
By the way, for the listeners,if you don't know, it's a thing
here.
There are bars that have meninside and those are for the
ladies and ladyboys, like theycan go, and they pay money for
get attention and fuck orwhatever with the men I mean
that before also really but itdoesn't pay any money for me oh,
you get for free.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
No, no, no I just hang out with friend how was it?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
huh, it's not weird for you to go to such a place.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
No, I enjoy it I feel , I feel like I just had room
with friend okay, but my friendhad men by his side so she
choose a man?
Yeah, she paid for him likedoesn't like a pay for half
steak, like that.
Doesn't like to pay about athousand by two thousand but pay
for drink.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
It's like that oh, so maybe it's not the same that
she told me, because she told meshe go to this place.
Yeah, she buy out the man, shetake her to the room, he fuck
her, he hug her and then he fuckoff yeah, but some, some, some,
for it's like a bar.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
But that's not like a bar, it's like a pub, nightclub
like that, more oh but youstill have to pay some pay for
drink yeah, like, uh, the wayit's like pay for them and then
they can stay for your for hourdepends doesn't depends on drink
, but is it like I want to know?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
is it like the tomboy bars?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
that I went before.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think yeah, so in the tomboy bar
we were supposed to go togetherbut you ditched me.
You remember that you'resupposed to, it doesn't?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
matter.
You ditched me, you remember,I'm fast asleep.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
It doesn't matter, I'm not angry, I'm just saying
so.
We were supposed to go together, right, yeah?
And there it's happening likethat.
So there is an auction, so allthe tomboy's are standing in a
line, and then you can say oh, Iwant tomboy number 12.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, I have to give them a drink For one, but you
had to keep the drink for one ortwo, like that.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
No, no, before the drink first you have to pay just
for her to come.
Oh really.
So I remember I went one timewith one of the ladies in
Delirious together and we choosea tomboy, we paid 250 baht.
Then she come, stay with us andthen you buy her drinks.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, yeah, like that .
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Similar like that.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Okay, that sucks, that's not fun.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
But it is like, and they stay for an hour and then
they go back Again, again, andthen you have to buy them again.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, wow, so it's the same thing.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
So well, I see that, and then I see them have fun
happy.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, they are entertainers, right, they will
dance and laugh and make youfeel good with yourself.
But for me it's like I'm justcoming in and hanging out with
friends and everything I feellike I'm not trying to make you
be like your sex alcoholic, sexaddict, that you have to pay for
men.
No, no, no, I mean I cannot sayit like.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
That's why I understand who's here for a long
time.
That's why I understand like,okay, now I know why there's a
trust in any life, anythingabout life with the planet or
anything else like that.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Okay so I will ask you another question.
Let's say there is someone thatlistens to us, right, that
actually loves some Thai lady orlady boy or whatever, and he
really wants to be in arelationship with her.
What's your advice for them?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
For this it depends on how long you are a guy.
Let's say they know for twoyears Two years.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
But now, after two years, he decides wow, I love
this person and I want to spendthe rest of my life with him.
With her, with him, it doesn'tmatter.
What's your advice for him toactually make them feel that
it's real?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
the way it's like you just say that, as the as who
you're you talk with, who youare being with, like, um, you
like to be boyfriend, girlfriend, but yeah, if is it for two
years, probably, yeah, probably,say yes, like we know each
other for a long time, and then,like, prefer to be
(36:42):
boyfriend-girlfriend.
And the way it's like you'regoing to leave the bar or going
to pay for a bar it doesn't,doesn't doesn't end the
disadvice.
I mean, it's like for for lady,for normal people in here.
Patia, you work, it doesn'tmatter about like working in a
(37:04):
shop, coffee shop or salon, butyou know them each other for
over two years and one bigboyfriend, girlfriend.
So yeah, look on, look on howlong you're, you know each other
and doesn't change yeah, butwhat, what?
Speaker 1 (37:21):
what should he say to that person in order to make
that person believe him thathe's serious about it?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
you just do what you do before.
I mean, it's's like you be thesame person, as you know, from
the first time.
That's not like okay, I want tobe with you like a boyfriend,
girlfriend, and then you'retalking together for all month,
like month, two month, threemonth, call video call and then
(37:50):
like, make a plan, whatever, andthen coming up here and then
change, change.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Acting different.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, acting different.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Oh, this is what you mean by stay yourself, like, do
as you said before, don't comehere, and then get tempted by
all the other options you havehere.
You want to be with that person.
Be with that person.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
For me it's like like yeah, because, uh, some people,
okay, I had before.
It's like say like many wordsand then like, okay, I gotta
come here and stay with you,blah blah.
And then for for tuesday,change from the plan is like all
(38:37):
the plan is like fucked up.
What he says doesn't happenwhat he plan, it doesn't happen.
I doesn't, I doesn't understand.
Sit and talk and then like well, well, maybe it just depends on
sit and talk and then like well, well, maybe it just depends on
(38:59):
what I did make him have thatmind happen and then make him
change, or what he did and makemy mind change also.
So that's why, if it gonna maketo be like strong, keep your
word.
If you promise something, do itif you promise to want to do
(39:22):
something, do it, but if you notdo it, it's just like because,
that's like to make hope don'tmake
Speaker 1 (39:31):
hope don't give false hope.
Yeah, don't give false hope.
Yeah, don't give false hopelike um okay, I cannot be with
you.
I'm gonna bring you to be thatsomewhere that and then you come
and you just go to the bartogether and that's it not, not
like go to the bar together, goby your own and leave.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Like that, I'll leave lady alone yeah, and she, she
waited for you, right yeah, andit's like well, so I'm here,
okay, okay, like I had before.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
So it's like coming, make plan everything and then,
like he, go by his own and I'msitting in a room alone.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
How do you feel when this happened?
Speaker 2 (40:17):
and I feel like I'm.
I doesn't feel lonely, but Ifeel like when I'm here, you
know, I have room, I have myroom.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I have to wait in his room.
Yeah, he's going to have funyeah and I feel like shit.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
okay, I'm hanging out with my friend, I go blah, blah
and then, when coming up, notseeing me, never, not seeing me
in the room when you go, youmove Blah, blah.
It's like, yeah, is it whatthey can't decide?
That it's me.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
They cannot control me, I understand, but they want
to stay in them, it sounds morelike you're not a person, you're
a bit yeah, you know what Imean by best like yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I'm not saying you are the dog, okay yeah but oh,
stay home, I go do my thing yeahfor me and be excited when I
come.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
yeah, but I'm not, I don't.
I'm not pets feel like itdoesn't matter.
Just hang out, see friends,stay with who wants to stay with
.
That's the means to stay withmen.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Of course no, we are not talking about.
Oh, he goes somewhere, so I gofucking other man, we're just
talking about decency.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Decency.
Yeah, it's like Much better to.
Just leave me alone.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
And decide.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Like hey, pim, listen , I'm going with my friend.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
So see you later.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
You go to your room or whatever, see you later.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
It's much better than just Stay here I go, much
better.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
You know, when I spoke with Scott, and not only
with Scott actually this adviceI gave to a few people.
So, I told them that, in myopinion, in order to create a
real relationship, out of thissituation, which is a sex worker
meeting a customer.
Yeah, my advice was try toactually create it.
(42:16):
So what do I mean?
Okay, she wants you to take outof the bar.
Right, she wants you to pay,pay, whatever.
I would say you know what.
Okay, I really like you.
Right here, let's pretend Ireally like you.
I don here, let's pretend, kim,I really like you.
I don't like you to work in thebar anymore.
So I want you to buy out of thebar, but I want you to promise
(42:37):
me that you will do your best tofind another job, like a
regular job, whatever you want.
Go work in a shopping center,go work 7-Eleven, I don't care.
I want you to show also thecommitment that I'm putting
inside by actually finding a wayto provide for yourself also.
You think that's a good idea?
That's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Would you follow that ?
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Of course you would say, yeah, okay, I mean, if
someone you like, you would say,okay, I want to try yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I do.
I probably do also like wellpay.
I mean like, yeah, support meevery month, like that, then I
will do the best I can the bit Ican do, the job I can do.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Maybe I go back study also yeah, of course, but do
something, not just stay home.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
And yeah, that's it yeah, because it's it's like
waste money.
Understand, it's called wastemoney.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, but I'm talking from the foreigners side
foreigners yeah I will explainso when you want to create a
relationship, a realrelationship with two person.
They have their own life, yeah,so she walks, I walk, right, we
.
I have my friends, she have herfriends.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
It's not have to be oh, I bought you out of the bar
and now you have to stay with meall the time no, not like so
try to create like a space evenyeah, try, but sometimes it's
like space even, but it's makelike feeling doesn't trust each
other yeah, but if let's say,you know me for a long time I
tell you listen, let's say
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I already bought you out of the bar and everything
and I say listen I'm going withmy friends today.
I don't know if you want tojoin.
You can join if not can we meetlater?
I think that's very fair that's, it's fair.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
but you know what I had.
I had like we had separate part.
Like time you meet, like he'smy friend, I meet friend, Then
like he doesn't trust in me, hethink I don't like man, you
think you go fuck.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Oh and.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Wait, did you go fuck ?
Speaker 2 (44:45):
No, okay, who I meet you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Who I go to see, as you my.
I come from my podcast.
Yeah, I know, and then you knowtalking in general yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
And then it's like what is this how?
You know me for a long time andthen you, you doesn't trust in
me.
Yeah, for, for, for what I doin here and that's kind of your
job.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
what we are doing right now, yeah, and it's like
is this?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
maybe that's why is this make it's annoying.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Annoying, annoying Okay.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Because I trust in them, but then that's trusting
me.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
You know that's very depressing in general.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah and then like okay, well, it depends on that
thing, maybe together try tofind out what we can do the base
, or maybe it's tough.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Yeah, I understand what you mean when I say you
don't have to stuck, be stuck ineach other's ass all the time
and not mean physically, I meanthey stay together all the time.
Sometimes it's okay to say,okay, listen, you know what I
think.
Today I'm going to just go withmy friends.
And if you want to do something?
Let me know Like normalrelationship.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Because it's really confusing for people when you
are let's say you are a sexworker and I'm a customer right
and it can really confusebecause some people I will not
say the name, but I know someguys that expect that if they
pay the lady, she have to fuckwith him three times a day how
(46:25):
you can fuck three times a day.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
No, this one.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
If not, he's angry.
He say fuck off alright, soyou're gonna.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Then is this like how you can fight, how you can
fight?
Who can hesitate you for threetimes?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
he can fight, he can fight, so yeah yeah, yeah, but
it's that's that will nevercreate a relationship.
No, never, because sometimesyou're not in the mood and you
say, listen, I don't want tofight today.
What the problem?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
hey, buddy relax and then feel like and then feel
like if you want that, but youwant that to make to be a
relationship also, what the shit?
Yeah, but what you do For threetimes in a day, it doesn't
gonna make a relationship.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
It can If you both want it, but not if it's coming
For one side.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
So yeah, I understand that way With the way I have
had something like that.
Okay, you know what?
Fuck it.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Let's talk about something else.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah so.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
I have two things to talk about.
First of all, I have actuallyone another thing to talk about,
but I want to give a shout out.
All right, so a few days ago Iwill not say exactly which day,
because I know why I don't wantto say I will not say exactly
which day, because I know why Idon't want to say but me, you,
scott, and another one of ourfriends, we went together to a
(47:56):
karting place.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
So it's called Easy Kart.
They have two places.
By the way, it's not paid.
They are not paying us to saythat, right, I'm just telling
that because we enjoyed it.
Yeah so it's called Easy Kart.
They have two locations tellingthat because we enjoyed it.
Yeah, it's called easy cart.
They have two locations.
One of them is near bali high.
Uh, bali high pier pier, thankyou.
And the second one is near themarket yeah so it's an easy.
(48:21):
It's a cart, a go-kart, racingtrack, and they have like few
options and we paid, each onepaid 2000 baht.
But I don't know that yeah, 2000baht for a person, but we get
three times that we can use it.
So we used it one time already,yeah, and we can.
(48:42):
You can come the next day ifyou want and use it again.
Yeah, and the carting that weused can go, I think, up to 70,
yeah, 70 kilometers per hour, sothey are pretty fast.
Yeah, and the truck.
So they have two trucks, like ababy truck and the regular
truck.
So the baby truck is 300 metersand the regular truck.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
What we did is 900 meters I'm gonna say that time
is so hard.
Yeah, it was hard for you.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
You had an accident.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
I had accidents too you crashed into the walls.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
I had an accident from the start yeah, immediately
from the start, and then youcrashed into the wall and they
had to go and actually rescueyou, take you out because you
stuck under the tires.
Yes, but it was first time foryou go-karting right, so for me
also.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Well, for me it's first time for you go karting
right, so for me also well, forme it's first for drive the car
like a, you know, like like acar because it's very, it's not
have, it doesn't have powersteering, yeah so you really
have to fight with the steeringwheel, yeah, yeah and that is
like you were scared.
I was scared.
I gotta say, like I scream allthe time that's talking about.
(49:51):
But you don't cheat yourself,just scream.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Huh, you don't cheat yourself, you're just screaming,
I scream, not shit.
No, no, no, no.
Maybe it's gonna happen, maybea little bit it's gonna happen,
but I try to not have I gottagonna say, like I'm screaming
all the time, you guys likeScott, you and another friend
(50:16):
you guys like drive past me allthe time I drive so fast like
yeah, but we, we didn't crashinto you
you crashed by yourself all thetime by the way, our other
friend that were with us.
She have like drivingexperience.
Yeah, so she was actually kindof good.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
I gotta say yeah, yeah, it's like so that's how I
feel like why you take his carto drive.
Yeah, but you need to improve.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Next time you will be better.
I promise you, next time youwill be better.
I promise you, next time youwill crash.
Only one time, not two timesOkay, maybe three.
But you know what I reallyliked about this place, and I'm
not joking.
Yeah, I like to Cut the tracks,cut the carts themselves, cut
everything.
This place is open until 1 am,so at night, right?
(51:09):
So?
You can come nighttime, it'snot that hot.
Not that hot no sun and you canenjoy.
There is good lighting overthere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
And it's really nice to come at the nighttime and a
very nice place also yeah.
I will show you how it lookslike from afar.
I gotta say, like how someonestay from far away and they see
my posts on.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
They really take a picture like I'm looking,
looking at you from power view,like that really.
Yeah, when we were there,someone knew that and they take
your pictures no, they take like, not, not my but like the whole
racing track from from the skylike really yeah, I show you how
pretty in the, how pretty likeit's really nice so my at least
it's my okay, you didn't enjoyyourself, next time will be
better.
But I my recommendation like, ifyou want like a chill night and
(51:54):
not just go get drunk every day, just give it a try.
It's really nice.
And again, it's not the paradepromotion, we just went up and
we really enjoyed that we werein toronto.
Yeah, well, I was, I don't know.
You were sus a bit.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
I gotta say that it's like it's good to try.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Next time you will be better.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
And the second thing I want to talk about.
So actually, when you came here, there was someone with me,
yeah, and she was like bruisedbecause she had fighting today,
yeah, so I want to tell youwhat's going on today, right,
and it's okay because I gotpermission about this also.
So, first of all, today I meetScott and I meet Michelle.
(52:41):
You know my usual guys right.
Our friends.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yeah, our friends, and you are busy.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Our friends what you don't consider them your friends
.
I mean, like our friends.
Yeah, we are a nice group ofpeople, yeah, yeah.
So, and you were asleep today,so you were busy, yeah, so we
met at Cindy's Secret at 11.
Mm-hmm, 11.20, actually,because everyone was late, I'm
(53:08):
the only one that came early.
And then from there we went toKaryu.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Karyu yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
Karyu.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
From.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
Karyu.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
We went to Pichi Lili , yep, and from Pichi Lili we
went to Boho yeah.
Wait, it's not finished.
Yeah, from Boho to boho.
Oh yeah, yeah, wait, it's notfinished.
Yeah, from boho.
We went to sun.
After sun, scott was too tired.
He say fuck it, I want to gohome so scott went home and me
(53:41):
and michelle kept like we wentto flex and after flex we said
what now?
Like it's already six in themorning, where can we go?
So I want to see if you guesswhere we go.
Six in the morning, epic yeah,we go Epic Bar, we go Epic Bar.
So Epic Bar is a bar inSoyexite that is actually
(54:03):
opening really late at night andit keeps working until like the
afternoon.
So everyone that wants to justkeep partying.
It's not a club, it's a bar.
We play pool over there, wehave some drinks, yeah, and
normally it's a mixed place.
So all the freelancers thatwant to go there they're not
actually ladies or ladyboys thatwalk there, yeah, it's only
(54:25):
freelancers.
So everyone can go.
And it was packed today.
It was full of people oh reallyyeah, so I met my friend here,
that which you already know,uh-huh and me and michelle was
sitting having fun drinking, andthen she joined us.
She was drinking with us, yeah,and then some other lady boy
(54:46):
came and someone that michalready know because he have
experience with her.
I don't know what happenedbetween them and he knew her and
she was talking with him, and Idon't know.
They start talking with eachother and then they start
punching each other.
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (55:06):
Who.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
So the one that was with me and the one that was
Michelle with Michelle juststart arguing.
Each one say something you knowthere was I will not repeat
that word, but very bad words inThai, like very bad words and
then immediately they start liketrying to punch each other so
(55:28):
we'd separate them, and thenthey just ran outside and keep
on fighting.
So both of them were bleedingRight and then me and Michelle
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
I don't like bleeding .
Come on, I'm not showing youanything.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
I just want to describe, and me and Michelle
went outside and we walked themapart.
The place was packed, so no oneeven noticed that.
You know Well many people knowus there, me and Michelle.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
We are regulars over there and Michelle is kind of
famous as you know she is, sheis famous.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
So everyone knows us.
So we went outside, weseparated.
But can you like why stuff likethat happen?
Side, we separate them.
But yeah, can you like whystuff like that happen?
It's always happening like thatbetween like freelancers.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah, you saw that before.
Probably I'm.
I never saw about fight ladyfight, but I'm just saw about
fight with, um, yeah, foreignersand customer with Thai.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
This was actually Lao with Lao, but it doesn't matter
for me it's like I doesn'tthink about lady fight before
and I try to start, like whathappened and like I know
something, that one of them wasspeaking bullshit and said like
oh, I fucked both of them, whichwas not true.
(56:53):
Like she said, yeah, I fuckedhim and I fucked the other guy
also uh-huh, so yep, which isnot true.
And she knew it wasn't true.
And why you say like that andit started like an argument.
Like that, and it started likean argument, but it was like
(57:15):
brutal fighting, you know, likepunches, and you saw the one in
my room before she was bruisedall her body was bruised.
So if they are, if they are noshorter, they don't like they
know each other from epic, Iguess, but they're not friends.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
Oh well, maybe it's about like Try to try to be like
I'm with them and I've beenbefore.
It's like a you're just, youjust just show dominance, like
oh, I know them, I fuck all ofthem, which is even if not true,
just to show how strong she is,just show.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
Maybe Because I don't think they were drunk no, me
and Michelle was extremely drunkExtremely, because you know
what's going on when you go outwith Michelle and me Like it's
heavy drinking all night.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
I know that One time before, so we had a lot of
drinking today.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
But, we didn't cause the fight.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
You know me and him, we are relaxed guys, when we go
together, we never cause a fight.
Yeah, we are very relaxed guys.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
Only Scott is getting crazy sometimes, but he already
went home.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
When Scott is getting crazy, you know what can make
him come down Give him highheels.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
Yeah, let him dance, it doesn him come down.
Give him high hill yeah, lethim dance, it doesn't matter.
Give him high heel and startdancing yeah, let's make him
come down yeah, but but it waslike in one second, from they're
talking together to punchingand scratching, and you know
okay well, from from I'm sayinghi, and then like, yeah, I'm
talk little.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
And the way she says, like because before they, they
had they had the problem before,oh, they had the history, yeah,
the history.
Oh, who stay here?
She don't want to, she don'twant to fight, so that's why
that history is just like calledout, it's like doesn't talk
(59:15):
about this until, like, theymeet each other again and then
like I said.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
So let's say maybe they had a fight before and now
because for some reason theystay in the same table, because
me and Michelle, michelle, thefight start again the girl over
here the girl over here saidthey have history and they don't
want to have fight.
Speaker 2 (59:38):
So that's why stop talking about that until that
lady coming up and meet heragain and start talking about
that again.
And then they are looking forthat lady, looking forward to
have fight with her.
So come, like us, like, yeah,show her off her.
And then like, yeah, just havefight, like that to her.
(01:00:00):
So about her about I'm notsaying who, right on who, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I'm talking in general why it's happening like,
yeah, they were not competingabout us yeah, yeah no, I had my
own here this on.
Yeah, it's not like we say, oh,there is one freelancer for two
guys no, it wasn't like that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
No, that's like that.
It's like about them.
It's about them have fight forthem, each other.
It doesn't doesn't anythingabout like um about man, it went
so fast.
Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
You know from two seconds that everything okay.
We are all drinking at thetable to punching each other and
scratching so that's why it'snot gonna be about jealous men
or whatever.
But something personal somethingpersonal and then, like they
have history before, I thinkyeah and, by the way, I want to
to say again Epic Bar is a greatplace.
(01:00:50):
I'm not saying that it'shappened.
It's the first time I seesomething that's happening in
Epic Bar.
Yeah, and it was packed andthere is never problems over
there.
So don't think that when I'msaying, oh, epic Bar, there is
always fights.
First time I see a fight.
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
You've been to Epic well, even with me sometimes.
Yeah, it's nice, it's quiet, noproblem.
Yeah, but maybe that is like abad day happened.
Not bad day, but it's like abad thing happened in the time.
But yeah, it's about impersonal.
Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Personal, really, they're gonna say it's very hard
, like it was hard for me andmichelle, not because we had to
fight, right, you know, me andMichelle, oh wait, I'm not as
big as Michelle, but we can likekick both of their asses in one
second, yeah, right.
But we just wanted to separateto make sure, yeah, like, they
are not fighting anymore.
And the people in the bar, theydidn't want to get involved,
(01:01:44):
yeah, yeah, so they just kickthem outside, fight outside.
Which was even more crazy, theytook both of them outside to
fight.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Because what is much better, like you want to fight,
you don't fight in my place,yeah, but separate yeah.
Separate.
Separate doesn't mean they'regoing to stop, they know,
separate for two seconds andfight again.
No, I mean kick one of them out.
(01:02:15):
Probably that's not the problembecause they know.
Maybe they know what they doit's like they meet here and
they fight.
Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yeah, because both of them are very regular for epic
bars.
Both of those girls, right?
So they are regular for epic.
Yeah, both of those girls,right?
Yeah, so they are regular inepic bars epic bar.
So maybe the staff know thehistory or what, what not, but
yeah it was crazy crazy, yeah,and then, after that, you
remember when you spoke with methat you are going to come this
(01:02:45):
and it take me a long time toanswer you this is the reason oh
yeah, because I was like, ohfuck, it's like we have to break
them up, you know I hear thesound like a screaming something
Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
yeah and then like when I tell you okay, later yeah
okay is this.
That's why I think it's likebut first I just buy some food
from 7-eleven and then I feellike, oh, probably, maybe I
could go oh fuck you, you eatalready.
I want to go eat soon that timeI feel like no, no, I just feel
we are going to eat after thisepisode I do okay, promise me
(01:03:20):
also we are going to eat afterthis episode.
Okay but that's how it's like,um, I think I can.
Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I can go to meet a guy.
Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Because I want to.
Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Finish this and make a podcast, something like that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
So why don't you come ?
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
You know what yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Wait, wait, wait.
You think we don't want you tocome?
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
I think it's about like I forget about my wallet,
whatever blah, blah, blah andthen I feel like I'm lazy, but
you know we love you, me andmichelle and scott.
Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
We always happy when you come but if I'm being there
sometime, uh, if I'm being thereand that's how I'm gonna coming
and they see, like what theheck fighting?
Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
yeah, no, I understand, but I, I just make
sure it's not like you feltyou're not welcome with us.
No, no, I'm not.
I'm not make sure it's not likeyou felt you are not welcome
with us.
Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
No, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
You promise me.
Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
I'm not have that feeling you cannot welcome, but
I have feeling I'm lazy person.
Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yeah, you are a lazy person.
You are a lazy person, but Ijust want to make sure, because
you know, wherever we go, wealways call you.
Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Yeah, yeah, that is about feeling you cannot welcome
.
Doesn't happen, okay, no thankyou.
Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
By the way, boho was empty today.
Oh, empty.
Empty me, michelle, two morecustomers, that's it.
And scott me, michelle andscott, and two more customers
yeah, the, yeah, there's a halffriend.
Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Yeah, I have friend sent me a message coming up also
, but unfortunately that's whysun was half full, not like
usual.
Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Usual, it's very hard to find the table easy today
and flex empty.
Empty maybe and it's a big labright 10 people inside.
Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
So yeah, maybe it depends on day this is what
Michelle said maybe, and it's abig lab, right 10 people inside.
So yeah, maybe it depends onday this is what Michel said.
Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Michel said like he think, because it's not the
weekend not the weekend, yeah,and last time we went there it
was the weekend, yeah, and itwas completely full.
Last time, you remember, wecouldn't even find the table.
They let us speak.
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Sidney the speaker yeah, yeah, they let us sit near
the speaker.
Yeah, yeah, it's just like sooh and we met Rich, also Rich.
Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
You know Rich, rich.
So it's the same guy, the olderguy that we met last time I
will not say who he went with,so he met by mistake.
He went to SoundClub and saidhey, and we were all together,
know me, him, scott and Michelle, but he came along this time
ask what happened, say no, Idon't, I don't want to take
(01:05:55):
anyone.
Like he been in deliriousbefore.
Then he went to 69 and then hejust say, fuck it, I want to go
oh, okay, okay, you know who I'mtalking about the other skinny
guy, white hair.
Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
It doesn't matter for the podcast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
But still so we met him also.
Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
So I think I talked everything I wanted to say about
today.
I had to like take out, takeout, take out.
I understand.
Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
I'm coming here and then.
Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
I want to listen also .
Because like yeah, we had like,like a hangout together for
last time uh about like uh fewdays ago.
Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Yeah, three days ago, and then after that I just I
just like home sleep yeah yeah,I feel like I'm missing.
Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
I'm missing something yeah, well, today you missed a
lot not something.
Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
but yeah, yeah, today I'm a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
But in general I hope the next times we will go out
there will not be such a dramaas today.
Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I don't fucking like this drama you know no drama, no
drama anymore, okay.
Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
So I think it's time to finish the episode.
I'm hungry.
Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Yeah, I'm hungry also , so that.
Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
What are you going to eat?
Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Kamikai chicken.
The episode.
I'm hungry, yeah, I'm hungryalso, so that, what are you
going?
Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
to eat.
Come and die chicken rice okay,so we will see if they have it,
I think downstairs okay okayand first of all listeners, I
want to thank you for listeningto us and, by the way, every
time you subscribe to us, itdoesn't cost you anything and
it's a huge help for us yeah,extremely huge help.
You don't believe how much.
(01:07:33):
And also, as I said in the lastepisode, every donation you
make for us.
We will just improve and thereis a plan.
I cannot share it yet, but oncewe reach a certain goal, which
I will talk about later.
We are going to make videoepisode in a professional studio
.
Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Oh, really yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
I already checked everything and there is a nice
place here in Pattaya that canaccommodate four people,
professional studio withprofessional microphones, with
video and everything, and it'sgoing to be amazing.
And then, finally, you see howugly we are excited to show my
face.
Yeah, ugly face don't listen toher she's gorgeous and so, for
(01:08:21):
that reason, not only we alsoneed to provide for ourselves,
but we open the patreon, as Isaid last time, so it's in the
show notes.
We will welcome any donationand there are many cool things
you can get out of it like.
By the way, I don't know if youknow that, but I updated it.
So for some certain amount ofmoney, we will make a personal
(01:08:41):
video call to you.
Oh, yeah so I will not say theamount, but just if you get that
donation, we will just call youpersonally and have a video
chat with you for like 20, 30minutes, it doesn't matter yeah.
So there are some levels overthere.
So just if you can check it outand again, if you don't want to
pay, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Just if you can please subscribe for us
Subscribe and still listen to us, of course, of course.
Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Thank you so much thank you very much and, again,
any questions that you have, youcan send us to the email, which
is mytaiwifepod at gmailcom.
You will know it soon.
In one or two episodes, youwill start to remember it by
yourself so, thank you guys,thank you guys.
I guess we see you next time,bye, bye.
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