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In this refreshing reboot of the My Thai Wife Podcast, host Mike introduces a vibrant new voice to the conversation—Pim, a 20-year-old Thai ladyboy with a unique perspective on life in Pattaya's lively nightlife scene.

Their chemistry is immediate as they dive into the daily realities of life in Thailand's infamous "Sin City." Pim shares candid insights about her routine, including her self-proclaimed status as a "sleep fan" who can doze for extraordinary lengths of time, and how Thailand's relentless heat shapes behavior for both locals and visitors. When just five minutes outside can leave you sweating profusely, air conditioning becomes more than a luxury—it's practically a lifeline.

The conversation takes unexpected turns as Pim reveals her dream of living in Japan, drawn not just to anime and food but to experiencing four distinct seasons—something unattainable in Thailand's tropical climate. Her authentic explanation of preferring Western partners over Thai men offers fascinating cultural insights: where Thai men often focus on day-to-day pleasures, Western men tend to build toward future goals and stability. According to Pim, truly knowing a partner requires 5-7 years of shared experiences, similar to forming deep friendships.

Perhaps most revealing is their frank discussion about Pattaya's bar scene economics. Why do workers sometimes appear more excited to see Asian customers than Western ones? The answer involves different spending patterns, timeframes, and expectations. Asian visitors might stay briefly but spend lavishly, while Western tourists often budget carefully across longer stays. These cultural and economic dynamics create a complex social ecosystem rarely explained so candidly.

Whether you're planning a trip to Thailand, curious about cross-cultural relationships, or simply enjoy authentic conversations about life in one of the world's most notorious beach resorts, Mike and Pim offer refreshingly honest insights from the inside. Subscribe now to join their continuing exploration of Thailand through the eyes of those who live it daily.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello everybody and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike and I'm still doingthis without my lovely, lovely
ex-wife, sunari.
Yeah, I know it's been a longtime since I uploaded anything
and I'm not doing it with Ladaanymore.

(00:21):
Sorry, it's been a long time.
I forgot her name with Ladaanymore.
Sorry, it's been a long time Iforgot her name.
But I have a new guest for youtoday.
She might not be a guest, shemight be our new co-host.
Please welcome, pim.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Hi there, hi everyone , I'm Pim.
First time ever in podcast.
You hear my Thai vibe podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, and might be our new podcast we will see
about that.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, why not?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, by the way, we are doing it live from Land of
Smiles, thailand, and also livefrom Sin City, pattaya, so you
guys know what I'm talking aboutright, it's like everyone in
Pattaya, right, it's likeeveryone.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Have a routine saying every day, every day.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
What do you mean?
Can you give me an?
Example's like you're talkingabout the farangs or about the
thais?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I think everyone okay doing like a routine.
I thought like wake up, dosomething you want to do the
same every day, every day likethat also you mean okay, for
example, what's your routine?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
sorry what is your routine every day?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
right, my routine.
Yeah, yeah, I'm listening.
It's about like, um, uh, youknow, like okay in the beginning
, just wake up yeah, it'sessential, just wake up.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, it's essential, essential.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
And wake up, and maybe for me I just wake up,
then I play phone, you know,watching what's the news.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
You like to keep yourself updated with the Thai
news or world news.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh, it's like train.
Okay, you, you know like trendabout fashion in the day or what
is going on about friend myfriend in the day, then get up
and I'm just okay.
Some some meal, breakfast playgame.

(02:43):
It's a normal day, I am havebecause I'm not working in the
daytime.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I work in the evening in the nighttime.
Then pass to the evening.
Just get ready to work and thenworking.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
How many hours do you work every day?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Sorry, how many hours .

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Do you work every day ?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
How many hours?
Hours, hours, hours.
How many hours H?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
every day?
How many Hours, hours.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Hours.
How many hours?
Hours, all right.
How many hours I'm sleeping?

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I'm sorry, my accent is not as good as your accent.
It's okay, please, that's allright, don't mess with me,
that's all right.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Normally I'm asleep for over 10 hours in a day.
Okay, I really love sleep.
I really I can say like I'm afan of sleep.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
You're a sleepaholic.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Sleep only Exactly.
I can sleep more than 24 hours.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I don't believe you.
You can sleep 24 hours.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, one day can't sleep past day.
How is it possible?

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I don't I mean regular sleep or waking up,
looking for sleeping again.
Yeah, right, right, like that,sorry, sorry it's still
impressive.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, like to sleep.
I wake up cheaper, maybe takesome snack okay then fall asleep
again okay I do like that is it?
Like I can't say that it's 24hour, because I'm wake up and
I'm just a little while, likejust for 10 minutes, 20 minutes,
and I go back to sleep itsounds like you're very good at
being lazy at bed I'm a lazygirl, ladies, not all, not all

(04:23):
of them yeah, not on.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Come on, not all of them, don't be so inclusive.
No, no, not like that I am.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Pim Lazy Girls.
So how about you?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, my routine here is very different from my
routine home right.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
When I'm home.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
I have to wake up, shower, go to work doing my
regular stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Okay, so cool.
Sorry, I did not tell you aboutthis.
I'm still shower, okay.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Oh, okay, good, I wanted to ask.
I thought you were just notshowering at all.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Because when you asked me about my routine, I did
not say I'm shower, okay, I putit, I'm still shower also.
Wait, wait, I have a goodreason.
You asked me about my routine.
I did not say I'm showered,okay, I put it as they shower
also wait, wait.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I have a good reason.
The reason I say I shower afterI wake up because many people
say I'm crazy.
They tell me why you not showerjust before you go bed and not
have to shower when you wake up.
You can go to work.
I say I cannot.
I feel dirty after sleep yeah,exactly this is my and many
people say no, you're wrong.
If you before sleep, you canjust wake up, put new clothes, a

(05:26):
little bit perfume and go to.
I say no, I cannot, Uh-uh.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Cannot yeah In the way like okay, here, Thailand,
then you know how?
Yeah, yeah, the weather inThailand is very humid have a
lot of humidity.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's very hot, very hot, you're just listen,
yesterday it was like 33 degreesI just went out from my room
for five minutes to go yeah Iwas already sweating me also.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, I'm, I'm a thai , but you know what?
Thai in thailand, winter inthailand is not for me okay and
okay, well, that's in in theevening, it's for you.
Is it in the daytime?
Right, when you go out sometimein a day, you mean in thailand
in thailand.
Yeah, right to eat something orto buy something, all right but

(06:14):
I'm always stay in the room inthe daytime because I don't like
hot okay I don't like get sweatwet, turn here here.
But whatever, when I'm finished,get ready to work.
Okay, I'm showering everythingin the room.
Yeah, in the room, put the aircon, you're not showering
outside, of course.
Right, and I just leave theroom, like you said, like just

(06:39):
five minutes or ten minutes, Iget sweat.
Oh, you do Not sweat, but sorry,I'm, I'm, you know, get hot
yeah, feel feeling you don'tfeel clean anymore yeah, and,
and that's the feeling cleanwhen I'm leave the room, but
when I'm staying in the room I'mso clean because I have aircon
and I leave the room, I getfeeling like why, why, why my

(07:01):
skin is little sticky, feel likegonna feel like I'm going to
sweat so I can't say I cannotstay outside.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
I understand that, but you said before you are a
Thai lady.
That is not from Thailand forThailand.
So where do you want to live?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Where I want to live right.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, we have listeners, maybe someone will
take you there where I want tolive, right, yeah, we have
listeners.
Maybe someone will take youthere.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Okay, I think I want to live in Japan.
Japan, japan, this is myfavorite.
Japan is a Japan culture.
Yeah, it's my favorite culture.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
What do you like about the japanese culture,
because it's very changed in thelast 30 years it's became from
a, from a very industrialcountry and very work driven
country and people yeah to well,they're still work driven, but
it's much more like.
People know japan for anime andfood and stuff like that right

(08:05):
now, and they have a lot ofproblems with fertility right
now because they don't have muchchildren.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I see, I see you know I read online.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I don't remember when I think it was two years ago
that they actually payforeigners to come and to meet
the Japanese lady in order tohave babies.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Oh really.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, because the Japanese men are not making
enough babies.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, this is a problem for the world also Not
have new baby or new human inthe world.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
And in Japan especially.
They worry that in a few yearsthe old generation will be.
You know, we are living longernow it's not like 100 years ago.
Now, people live.
If they're keeping themselves alittle bit healthy, they can
live to their 80s, or even moresometimes.
And if there would not be ayoung generation, who will take
care of them?
You know?

(08:58):
And people start really tothink about that.
So what do you like about Japan?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
You like anime, you like japanese food.
I think about the weather, theweather also.
I like japan because, um, youknow is it, is it okay?
I'm talking about like order.
They are get cold, it's very,very cold.
Have strong, have Japan, I meanlike other other, I mean like

(09:29):
other on the western, yeah, butWestern, yeah, I mean like in
the country of western side, notJapan.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
It's like cold, but it's cold.
Have strong sun but still cold.
But in Japan I think it'ssimilar thai some sometime, I
think japan has four seasons.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Have four seasons, yeah, not like thailand, but for
I met a guy yesterday that toldme he came back yesterday that
he came back from two weeks injapan because he wanted to go
skiing.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Ah, he goes skiing japan yeah, I, I want, I want to
do that also.
You know, not happen inthailand, never happened in
thailand, is this would be nice?
If I'm staying in japan, I canplay skis also, and I think
snowboard will fit you better.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
But okay, it's no hard, you know yeah it's no more
.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
And right, snowballs is it.
Is it like a new how I can sayI never did that in.
Thailand, because it neverhappened no, no, no, never has,
no is High.
Yeah, then, to not far fromhome and and I say like, um, I,

(10:53):
how to say that?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
like, not far from home, not far from thailand,
yeah and about food.
It's a very nice, you triedjapanese food before?

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I love it.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
What's your favorite Japanese food?
And please don't say sushi.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
No, I like how do you say it?
It's called udon.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Udon, yeah, udon.
Noodle, yeah, udon noodle.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Is it ramen Ramen?
I love ramen, I love udon.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Ramen is the best, by the way, guys I don't know if
you know there are a few verygood, extremely good ramen
places here in pattaya I willnot name them, but they are
another level, like it's.
I think it's.
You can compare it to realjapanese ramen in japan like the
owners are japanese, so so.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
So where is it?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I can tell you one of them.
One of them is placed exactlybetween the north road of
Pattaya.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
North snow.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Pattaya Thai.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Pattaya Thai.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
And the beach road.
Just in the corner there is abig Japanese shop over there.
It looks Japanese.
And they sell one of the bestramen you can find here, and
also they sell cold ramen forpeople that like cold ramen.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Cold ramen, yeah, cold ramen.
Is it about food in Japan?
And what are the reasons why Iwant to go to Japan?
Because my mom, her dream is tobe in Japan for one time.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Oh, okay, so you inherited her dream.
Like she was always talkingabout Japan.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yes, and it became part of you, yeah it makes me
like, okay, if I want to live insomewhere, I want to live in
somewhere, I want to live in.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Japan Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
For everything Except for me.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Where in Japan, do you know?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Do you?
I think I Would be like Tokyo.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Okay, is it?
Is it like?
I thought it Will be yourobvious answer.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Not Not.
Another person like has spatialplace, because if I'm staying
at some place and then I can goaround there it's not the
problem.
Yeah, but stay in a place likeum you like the big cities, the
big city.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
for example, if you, if you had infinite money, okay,
but you have to stay in th,would you live in Bangkok?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
No.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Why not Because?
It's very similar to Tokyo.
It's a big city with a lot ofpeople, very crowded.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
But the weather is not the same, is it?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
The water, the weather, the weather is not the
same, so that's why.
And the pollution?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
is not the same.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
The pollution in Bangkok is a known problem.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
So if I have money, infinite money, I think I would
say other places in Bangkok,because well, we can shoot,
better live.
Tell me where For our listenersthat have infinite money.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
I want to know where would you recommend them to live
in Thailand, it would benorthern For me.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I like the weather.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
North Isan or north-north Thailand,
north-north.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Thailand, so I like the weather.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's a bit cooler, yeah, yeah it's a little bit
cool.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
More than that, yeah, yeah, and longer than patia, is
it north and near, near china?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
yeah right, no, no okay, sorry, you, I think you
mean around, for example, chiangMai, chiang Rai.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
That's the area.
If I can, I want to stay inlife with it Because I think the
weather and the culture in it'sa bit different.
It's a bit different.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
I see people around there.
So nice, lovely have you beenthere?
Before Never.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
You've never been to the lab, but have friends go to
study around there.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, or some staff in the lab I work with.
They are from Northern also.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Okay, by the way, we got a request to please don't
pen shell which bar you work in.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
We cannot say at which bar you work.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Okay, so it's very important.
I'm just saying that to you andto our listeners.
That is something.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
All right.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Because of previous mistake we done with lada, we
cannot share so much personalinformation of where people live
or where they walk.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I can't understand, so they show me how is this life
going on there, and I thinkthat is good for it's more
relaxed more relaxed, morerelaxed, but still have big city
also.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
But still relaxed also.
And the food is different.
The food is the best, thenorthern food is the best.
Northern, not I cannot say thebest for order, but in my mind,
in your opinion, yeah, in myopinion, you prefer the northern
food.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Northern food Okay.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Interesting, interesting, yeah, interesting.
I think I had only two dishesfrom maybe three because lada,
my previous co-host she was fromthe northern areas, so she
explained to me a little bitabout this and also I cooked.
I ate some of that food hetried to, yeah, but I prefer

(16:42):
Isan food.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I really prefer Isan food Okay, so it depends on
culture depends on the person,right, of course?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Of course it's a matter of taste.
Come on.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah, I can say I'm a half of a.
How do you say, like North?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Northern.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
North, northern, yeah , yeah, isan isan okay, can call
isan.
I'm a half from isan, okay, andhalf from um how to say like um
around here, also around, butyeah okay, so it's from the
center of thailand so I can sayabout my country home yeah, okay

(17:27):
.
I'm a home country, so I'm fromto temporary Thailand.
Yeah, so it's just near Bangkokalso, okay, and my dad from
Eastern.
Okay, right it so.
I am right, right it right it.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
So my parent is a Thai son, but I like no actually
called mixed here yeah, come on, come here because I know
there's the Thai people and theysound people and the northern
people and it's very different,differently.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
So you can say mix, yeah, you can say half in Thai
Thai half.
But not other country, in Thai,not the same culture.
But I like northern food, Ilike northern guy, also Northern
guy.
Why?
He look, how do you say that?

(18:23):
Like Looking White?
He look, how do you say that?
Like looking white?
I mean, I mean, I mean.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Oh, you're such a typical Thai Just because of the
skin color.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
No, no, not like that You're racist, you're racist.
I don't say I don't say I don'tlike tan skin, okay, but if I
prefer, if I prefer, I prefernorthern guy, because how them,
how them, you know them culture,yeah their mentality, their

(18:57):
culture.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's slowly simple, you know.
Yeah, but the same way my dad,Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Well, he can form a way, my dad, that's why.
That's why.
But I want to ask you aquestion, mm-hmm, and this
question it might becontroversial do you prefer for
runs over ties really, I'm notmean as people that you you know
customers, I mean in yourpersonal life, what, what would
you prefer as a partner?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I thought it's about foreign more, foreign more.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
You can say Asia in general, if you prefer Asian
looking guys.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, I understand, but I thought it's not about
nationality.
Okay, um nationality, okay, Ithink, is it for me.
If I prefer a partner, my lifeit depends on the person
personality yeah no matter whyyou're from Asia, okay, but we

(19:59):
are talking in the matter oflooks.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I understand you try to be politically correct and
you try to show oh, I'm such alovely lady, come on.
If you try to be politicallycorrect and you try to show oh,
I'm such a lovely lady, come on.
If you have to stay withsomeone for the rest of your
life, how would you want him tolook like?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Farang For my type.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, yeah, for your type.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Farang would be better.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Tall, blonde, blue eyes.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, white skin.
I forget to say white eyes.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, white skin.
I forget to say white skin.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, I say that because what?
But right, yeah, and so culture, I thought, like foreign people
, they are, they are, they arehave, you know, trust in
themselves.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I think confidence it's called confidence yeah in
man.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
In my experience I talk with some guy.
They are have confidence morethan how I have, more than you,
more than how I have.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
More than you.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
More than me and more than.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
You are a pretty confident lady.
What are you talking about?
No, I know you for a while.
You are very confident.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
And confident is in the way, lady, lady, but in the
way like if I have confidencewith other, not in a ladyboy way
okay.
If I have to do something mencan do they have confidence to
do that I cannot do.
Sometimes I don't have anyconfidence to do same them, lady

(21:41):
, also Some lady, they havetheir favorite thing to do, but
I do not have confidence to bedo same them.
So I can say I don't.
I don't say it because I don'twant to say you, lady boy, have
to do the same everyone, by theway.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Now, our listeners are shocked.
Yeah, this is the first timethey hear you're a ladyboy, yeah
, so I'll hand, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
So for thai I I did not say asian because I'm not
saying about around them, butfor thai, in my experience and
talk with a thai boy, they aredid not have confidence to to
show, I mean it's like to openyou think it's they?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I just asked a question because I want to
understand exactly what you meanyou think?
You mean?
You mean that because they areyou are a lady boy they are more
shy.
Or you are not talking aboutthe lady boy aspect, you are
just talking about the ladyboyaspect.
You're just talking aboutgeneral dating aspect, general
dating, okay like they did.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
okay for for time.
Boy, I'm have experience talkI'm with, I'm talking with they
are did not have confidence toshow how they are.
They focus on like lovely inthe time, just like, okay, pass
the day, okay tomorrow.

(23:13):
And we'll be the same every day.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Doesn't go up.
So you mean like more focusingon having a good time rather
than creating a future?
Mm-hmm, okay.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
They just want to have a good time in each day,
but they doesn't make it in thefuture.
It doesn't same, but for memaybe it's about age.
Okay, I mean foreign, but Imean I'm, I mean they are older
than me, okay so they're prettyyoung.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
come on, you're pretty young.
Come on, you're pretty young.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Okay, thanks.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
No, you are.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, I can say hi, yeah, you can say your age Okay.
I'm just 20 years old, I'm justturned 20.
Okay, then I meet some foreignguy older than over 10 years,
over five years.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Even more, sometimes, I guess, over five years, even
more sometimes, yeah, even more.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
But right, they are thought they're always thinking
about like in the future.
They doesn't care, you're gonnahave a good day in each day.
But you're about partner lifeis glow up.
Glow up and strong, more thanjust have a good time in a day.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, I understand that.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
The way.
Is it why the reason why Iprefer Farang?
I don't know if Thai guy havean opinion same Farang, but from
my experience that's why Iprefer farang more than Thai.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Okay, yeah, that makes a lot of sense because
also in a, let's say, partneraspect, it's giving you more
confidence and you know thatit's someone that you can rely
on.
Right.
You can stay together in thefuture, maybe have a family
together, maybe have a housetogether.
You don't know where it's going, but it's going to somewhere

(25:10):
together, not just okay, we meettogether, we drink, have fun,
maybe have some sex and go homeand go home, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
So okay, farang, do that also, but not everyone.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Not everyone, but you have to remember we are in
Pattaya, so in here the sexaspect is a bit more relevant to
the.
Yeah, I try to be very to speakgood about that, but it's
apparent that it's everywherehere.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
So well, I don't think that is bad.
Okay, yeah, so it's justnormally in Paseo, Like the way
I've been here for two years.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, since you've been here for 18.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Two years, yeah right .
First, I've been here for 18.
And right, for two yearsexperience.
I cannot say what is true, true, what is it not true like?
We're not talking aboutabsolute truth but yeah, talking
about experience, yeah,experience.

(26:16):
So for me is it normal, okay ifI, if I'm this, if I'm being
with someone, just have a goodtime in the day and go home,
sleep.
That's it.
It's all right Because it'snormal.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
That's not what you're looking for.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
That's not what I'm looking for, yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I totally get it.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, right, that's why.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
But how long do you think before you could really
find yourself with someone thatyou like, Because you meet I?
Guess at least a few peopleevery day.
I don't mean dating, I mean youjust meet new people all the
time.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
How long do you think would it take?
You to find someone that youcan really have a good
connection with and maybe createa future with him.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
All right find someone that you can really have
a good connection with andmaybe create a future with him.
All right, so for me, okay,I've been here for for a couple
years and I know someone forover a year okay and is it
that's why I had to take timelong?
I would would be like longer,but I'm not being here.

(27:25):
So in the plan it was about myplan, someone I'm talking with
be with me for a little while,longer than a year, okay, okay,
well, we have to learn eachother, of course, in my opinion,
is it?

Speaker 1 (27:45):
In any opinion you cannot.
I think it's not very good tojump straight into a committed
relationship without knowing theother person cannot do that, so
I have, in my opinion, a needto learn.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Each other would be like more than 5 years, maybe
more than 4, more than 7 years,and get married.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Seven years is a long time.
Seven years in my opinion is abit long, but again, if that's
the time you think it will getfor you to actually know someone
, then that's a reasonable time.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I could know the guy who can be my partner more than
a couple years.
Okay, I feel like it's like youknow in school okay yeah, you
know a friend, your friend.
You know them just a years andthey're the best friend oh, and
that's the best friend.
No, that's bullshit.
That's bullshit the friend whois the best friends of your.

(28:46):
You have to know them more thanOver Three years, more Over
than four years.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, and ups and downs, and sometimes we have
some fights.
Yeah, we are still friends,right yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
but we're still friends, that you can call them
a best friend Because you knowthem for Over Five years, six
years.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Ten years, and that's what you're looking in your
partner, a best friend, right sothis is other, I think, okay
from from my parents aspirin.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
They have been for long, like four of they know
each other for three, four years, then they've been a boyfriend,
girlfriend.
I mean like partner can saypartner easy because they know
they are.
That's how they are adult, likeyou know, working, part, part
of working, you know, okay, sothey don't.

(29:37):
They don't want a boyfriend,girlfriend crush like um popular
in school.
So they know for over fiveyears, six years, and then they
stay together.
Learn each other how to staytogether then, for for now they
are, stay over 10 years.

(29:58):
Yeah, they stay together like afriend.
They the best friends, the bestfriend can be everything for
your life, because is it yourpartner, then, whatever has
happened, partner still be yourside.
Yeah, so that doesn't mean likepartner, just some part and go.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, partner, just some part and go.
Yeah, listen, the ideal thingwe can do is finding a partner
that will stay with them forever.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Right, right.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
If we're monogamous.
I'm not talking about otherways of living and being in a
relationship, because somepeople have multiple partners.
I'm not talking about thatTalking monogamous.
The thing is to to find someonethat you can stay with them
forever and still be goodfriends best friend if possible,
but good friends is also, yeah,a good way, very, very, very

(30:59):
good way because, um you know, Idon't want to waste my time
what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (31:05):
I mean like I don't, I don't want to waste my time.
What do you mean?
I mean I don't want to get in anew.
I always have new relationships.
Yeah, I don't want to waste mytime to get a new relationship
many times and hurt.
Okay, because that is about,because you, because not about

(31:28):
like I say.
That's why I prefer to not getin a new relationship, because I
don't want to hurt a lot, butyou don't think you might miss
in on good relationship?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
right?
A chance, right?
I'm just asking, right?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
yeah, because if it's like, okay, maybe I'm missing
some good part if I'm close tonot get in a new relationship
okay but to get any relationship?
But just learn, learn, learnwith other people Like talking

(32:09):
like a friend.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Maybe and focus only my life.
First I focus on my job, focuson a better life for myself and
make myself be to improveyourself, yeah, improve, but
like okay, I'm, I'm haveeverything in my life already

(32:36):
have house, have car, havebusiness, have money.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
And you're only 20.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Okay, that is about other.
Maybe other 10 years, maybeother 10 years, maybe other 15
years.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
No, that's impressive .
Go on yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
And at that time I can say, if I can have a partner
, at that time that would benice to have, because I have
everything already.
Partner is just like the main,the the main of our life the

(33:14):
main, I mean how to say that?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
because I think a partner is something that is
first of all essential if youdon't want to live alone.
Wait, but I don't think it'sthe main.
I think the main thing is, asyou said before, improving
yourself first, making yourselfbetter, and then you can find
someone to be better with.
You know, this is what I'mthinking.
Maybe you see it from adifferent angle.

(33:38):
I would love to hear.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
So I think the partner is just like the things
of life, like the step you know,because okay, well, you have
everything, but how you can staywith someone when you have
everything?
Like someone?

(34:02):
To be for a long time.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
If I have everything, I cannot stay with someone.
What do?

Speaker 2 (34:07):
you mean?
I mean like I have everything.
But if you fall in love withsomeone like you need a partner
to stay with for a long time,trust in each other.
You know how you can stay ifyou have everything, how you can
stay if you have everything.

(34:28):
So for me, I think I wantpartner but support each other
Like grow together.
Grow together.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Like improving each other together.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yes, right, okay so.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I understand.
I think you try to say that thepartner is a very good drive in
order to be better.
Right when you have a partner,you can do that together and
grow together, as we said.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
I need, yeah, the same way like go together.
I don't want someone fast,someone still, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Listen, I completely understand you and I tell you
more than that, my listenersknow because I spoke about it
before.
I can do stuff by myself, forexample, this podcast but I'm
not good at it.
I prefer to do it with apartner.
I'm very good working in duos,which means two people this is
my style when I have a partnerto work with on any project same

(35:27):
this one, for example I'm doingmuch better, rather than just
sitting alone in front of amicrophone talking to my
listeners that I hope will likethe content that I make for them
, right or the subject?
I see, I see but when I'mtalking with someone else it's
more natural for me because it'sa real good conversation in my
opinion.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, that's why I want, I'm looking for that that
one, that someone that someone,someone can together with me but
, please, but but had to waitfor me because I need, I need to
be good part.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
You know like the base yeah, the base path of me
then work together, be togetherokay, I want to ask you
something that is completelyunrelated to what we spoke about
.
Okay, okay, but it's somethingthat I noticed in my stay now in
here.
I stay here for a while now, Iwill not say how long, but I

(36:26):
stayed for a while and it tookme time to do all those
recordings and stuff that wewill upload soon.
But I want to ask you I Inoticed that the thai ladies and
, I guess, ladyboys that workingin bars they're much they are
going after, um, they muchprefer asian men right now, like

(36:51):
if you see, let's say koreans,japanese or chinese.
For them it's much better thanfrance.
Can you explain to me what isgoing on um?

Speaker 2 (36:59):
okay, the way like from speak openly, come on.
Okay.
So the way like from Speakopenly, come on.
Okay.
So the way like I am saying toyou why I like northern guy.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
No, I mean about as customers.
As customers, all right.
I see like, for example, if yousit inside, let's say soy semen
, okay.
I sit in a bar and I watch agroups of friends passing by
okay some lady calls themsomeone's right, but if asian
guys come, the ladies are justgoing crazy.
They will do whatever they needin order to bring them to the

(37:37):
bar.
What's?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
going on.
I think that is about Okay,because for me in my mind, that
isn't like for them type theylike.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Okay, so maybe that.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Maybe that thing and other thing about money they
spend better than the Falang'snormally.
Normally I have experience withthe Japanese guy.
For me it doesn't differ, it'ssame.
It depends on you say how muchyou code.

(38:18):
In my experience, but maybeit's about like how they treat
ladies, how they, you know, likebe soft.
I think about like chai likealways depends on lady.

(38:42):
Okay, well, it's not the waylike they, being boyfriend,
girlfriend, I see like whenAsian guy they are, they are
have date with girls.
So they always like depends ongirls, depends on lady what she
like to do, what she like to eat, where she like to go.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Okay, I understand.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, so they are much more attentive for the lady
, yeah, yeah, and some for forfor lady boy.
I thought it's about like ladyboys not have not have many
Asian guy like ladyboy reallyAsian guys don't like ladyboys

(39:28):
for me, I see from, from, fromyou know, like I see from otter,
when when I'm walking on thewalking street with friend, I'm
hang every friend that I see,like all the way, like walking
past the bar, they're notinterested about ladyboy.

(39:48):
You see more farangs with thatyeah, farang would like to
looking for ladyboy more thanasian guy okay yeah, then I
thought that's why ladyboy arecrazy when they see asian
because it's more on the specs,maybe also hmm maybe that is
about what they like yeah thatis easy.

(40:11):
That is easy to not waiting.
You know that it's not easy towaiting.
Asian guy come to you becauseyours not tell them, so you try
to get them.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
I tell you, I asked because I heard something that
was very interesting for me.
So when Farrank guys come, theycome normally for at least two,
three, four weeks because theyhave to come from far away.
So they bring money but theybudget themselves.
And the Asians when they comesometimes they come only for
three, four days because it'svery close.
So they bring money, but theyspend a lot.

(40:47):
So, I heard, for example, thata group of, let's say, two or
three Asians will easily spend15,000 baht in a bar and the
Farangs group of three Farangsmaybe will spend two or four.
So because they are saying, okay, we are here for a short
vacation, we are having fun fun,let's spend exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Is that true?
Maybe that thing also okaybecause I'm, because I'm okay
from my experience I'm withfarang well before, for, okay,
we'll stay for a couple monthsokay stay for a couple of months
and had the word said.

(41:31):
Like he said to me maybe Icannot give you the price you
code.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
I cannot give you the price you code to me because I
had to stay for two months and Ineed to spend they are very
budget, yeah, but even if you,you, you you're asking prices,
whatever they say oh, that's mytoo much for, too much for me,
okay, yeah, because yeah, theyneed to.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
You know too much.
It too much.
It like few, is it?
You know, for two months theyplan already.
But for some Asian okay, jobliving guy, japanese guy I'm
before they just been here for aweek.
Yeah, maybe it's four days,five days and then in Pattaya

(42:25):
just three days.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Don't mind spend Pattaya just three days, so they
don't mind spending.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah, don't mind spending.
But they had to spend like oneweek in Thailand before two days
in Pattaya and after that gosomewhere else, then go home.
So for two days, just two days.
They spend like okay, it's anassemble, okay, not happy with
me before.
So for two days, just two days.

(42:48):
They spend like okay, for is itassemble?
Okay, not happy with me before.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Okay, don't worry.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
For 3,000.
But, he in Patria just two days.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Wait when you say 3,000,.
We are talking about sex, liketaking the lady to the room, or
you're talking about sitting ina bar and spending what are we
talking about?

Speaker 2 (43:08):
No?
No, it's about, like say,taking the room.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Just one night, three dozen, okay, cool Then for next
, next day, and maybe try tostay together like and try to
stay with him again like texthim how's going on?
Can we stay together tonight?
Say like no, I have plan Okay.

(43:34):
Which is okay, yeah, that'sjust two days in Pattaya.
After that nothing happened.
But is it about different fromParang?
They keep not a lot of money,but stay for long.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Stay for one month, maybe more, maybe more, yeah,
maybe more, maybe, more, yeah.
So I think that's why they liketo bring with Asian, because,
like you know, like easy ending,okay.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
One thing also, yeah with foreign sometimes have a
lot of drama.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, yeah, so it would be like that's why they
prefer Asian guy.
To stay with big money Not manytimes, but, and easy, no drama,
no trouble after that time.
Yeah, if they like ladyboy, whynot?
They can spend for them Forladyboy.

(44:33):
So they spend for ladyboy Likespend for them for for lady boy,
right.
So they spend for a lady boylike spend for lady.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah, also, you think there is a price difference,
difference between lady boys andladies I think so really,
because okay so I'm asking I Ireally have no clue about that I
, I have experience from myfriend.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
I, okay, I can say, first time I come to work in
Pattaya, I come with friend,it's a lady friend, okay, it's a
girlfriend.
Then lady, my friend, girls,I'm a lady boy, right, lady lady
boy working together For okay,for sake, it's about like like

(45:18):
short time.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
For ladyboys when say like 2,000 short time.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Other, like customers like say oh expensive.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
When ladies say 2,000 short time, oh easy, but the
same guy, the same guy, same guyis like so let's say there is a
guy that like ladyboys andladies, he will think two
thousand is too expensive for aladyboy but, it's not too
expensive for a lady you meanthat?
Yeah, because, because um meand my friend we had like a.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
One guy for both of us.
Yeah, one guy for both, okay.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Okay, this is not for fun, but you know, like I want
to know this, you want to knowalso, yeah, yeah.
So me and my friend, we youknow how to say that Share the
guy, Not share the guy.
But how to say that Share theguy, Not share the guy.
But how do you say that, Likeyou know, Conan, Conan, Conan.

(46:22):
What is Conan it's in the animein Japan.
They had to figure it out, forsomething happened.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
I'm not very strong on anime, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Okay.
So it's about like you make aplan with your friend, okay, I
make a plan with my friend, likehe okay to spend for me?
Okay, lady boy, yeah, and spendfor you Two thousand.
It's okay and okay.
Talk with the guy Like same guy, one guy.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Oh, you're making a scheme.
I understand now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
So then, okay, say the same word.
Two thousand short time is okayfor ladyboy me, and let's see
the answer.
Yeah, let's see the answer.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Wait, I'm not trying to insult you, but she might be
more attractive, how she mightbe more beautiful.
This is also something thatcomes to, and when I mean
beautiful, I mean more for histaste.
For example let's say you know,everyone has their own scale for
other people.
Let's say I go on the street Isee some lady I can say, oh,

(47:33):
she's a 5 out of 10, or she's an8 out of ten, or she's a eight
out of ten or ten out of ten,right.
And for example, if I see youand and your friend, I can maybe
think you are a nine out of tenand she's only six out of ten.
So of course I would be, Iwould feel more comfortable
paying you whatever you ask,because I want to be with you so
much.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
You understand, it might be an aspect also, but uh,
yeah, I understand about that,but I but that time I I see is
about like a, he like lady, ladyboy.
But then me, me and my friend,we doesn't look differently, you
understand?
Like a v, okay, how tall hersmall girls.

(48:15):
She's shorter than you Shorterthan me, but when we take
pictures together we looksimilar, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
But different.
Well, hair color whatever, butstyle same.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Okay.
Okay, I can say, like it's notabout yeah but you understand
that every people have their owntaste.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, I see, and it might be that, come on, I heard
this.
I heard a story.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
I heard a story.
You will be shocked.
Okay, I will not say the namesbecause you know those people.
But someone went okay, there isa guy that is living in Pattaya
.
He's working here for a longtime, legally, by the way, and

(48:59):
his friends came to visit himand his friend wanted to go to
Soy 6.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
So they went to Soy 6 .

Speaker 1 (49:03):
And they went to some bar or go-go, I really don't
know.
And the guy that just came toThailand saw a girl that he
really liked.
And he asked her okay, how much?
So she told him the bar fine isthree thousand.
Wow, and for me you have to payanother five thousand no

(49:23):
problem without even thinkingyeah.
and my friend that lives here along time said what are you
doing?
He said, listen, I don't care,I came here for a short time.
She's really my type.
I feel we have a goodconnection.
I want to pay that money, Iwant to be with that girl and
that's acceptable.
I understand that I would neverpay that price in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
But, you know, but uh-huh, it's crazy, is it?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
By the way, short time, not long time.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, short time.
For short time, he paid 8,000baht.
Yeah, that thing is true.
Yeah, is it exactly that.
But maybe it's what myexperience happened and the
thing like, okay, they think fora lady boy, for a lady, maybe

(50:15):
different worlds.
Different worlds and somehow Ihear like for a lady boy for
lady, maybe different worlds,different worlds, and somehow I
hear like for lady boy, they'rewriting on for lady boy.
I'm never give this prize apassive for me, and that's why I
feel like why make it?

Speaker 1 (50:36):
you know like make a stand.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Art to people, okay.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
But then I can say the other side, maybe the
ladyboy is selling girls short,yeah.
I mean maybe ladyboys, maybeit's something in confidence, or
maybe just because there ismore scarcity.
But maybe ladyboys say oh, Ijust need customer, I don't care
, will go him with him for 1000.
And then other people see andsay oh okay, so 1000 between

(51:03):
1500 is the standard price,let's say, and then it's just
becoming that.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Maybe ladyboys selling them themselves show
sometimes and then make themthought like okay for a lady boy
away, like a be like this, it'sokay because what I usually
yeah, why I will not pay it nowyeah, why, why?
Why I had to pay more like that?
Yeah, because I'm I have thispride before yeah, yeah so I

(51:32):
understand that's right, true,maybe?

Speaker 1 (51:35):
we are all guessing here, but I want to say, because
we are very close to the end ofthis episode, first of all I
want to say thank you, Pim, itwas very fun.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
I think we are going to do more episodes very soon.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Do you have something to say to our listeners?

Speaker 2 (52:00):
for me it's the first podcast and thank you for
listen.
Listen.
We content today, the contentwe made today.
I can say I don't today, Ican't say I don't know, I can't
do podcast because I don't knowI'm a talkative you're doing

(52:23):
great and I'm sure our listenerslove you thank you so much for
your listen.
Anything you like to share canput on our comments and I will
reading and put like them yeah,of course, if I see something, I

(52:46):
will, I will answer.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I thought yeah, that's, that's great, and I want
to say that again.
Sorry it took me a while todoing that again, but you know I
told you already what went on,I know.
So I hope, I really hope, thatyou will keep listening to us

(53:10):
and I hope we can improve evenbetter than last time and just
thank you very much forlistening to us.
I really appreciate that.
I don't ask anything more thanthat just thank you for
listening.
Okay, thank you so much okay,guys, see you next time.
See you next time, bye.
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