July 11, 2025 • 54 mins
Ever wondered what it would be like to ride a motorcycle from Germany to Thailand? Our guest Tino did exactly that, embarking on an extraordinary seven-month journey across ten countries before discovering the charms of Southeast Asia that would keep drawing him back.
Tino shares the fascinating details of his global adventures, from traveling with a 25-year-old mountain bicycle through Malaysia and Borneo to swimming with sea turtles in remote Philippine islands. His comparison between Thailand and the Philippines offers invaluable insights for anyone considering travel to either destination. While the Philippines boasts stunning beaches and friendly locals, Tino explains why Thailand often wins out with its superior food quality, better value accommodations, and remarkable safety record.
We explore the hidden gems of both countries, with Tino recommending Cebu over Manila and explaining why Pattaya—despite its reputation—offers so much more than meets the eye. He describes finding affordable accommodations away from tourist centers, enjoying local cuisine at a fraction of Western restaurant prices, and experiencing the warm welcome of Thai communities in countryside villages.
What emerges is a thoughtful reflection on what makes a place feel like home. For many expats, including Tino, Thailand offers that perfect blend of affordability, safety, convenience, and community that's hard to find elsewhere. His stories reveal how the expat culture in Pattaya creates natural connections between travelers who might otherwise never meet.
Thinking about your next adventure? Whether you're planning a Southeast Asian getaway or dreaming of more ambitious journeys, Tino's experiences offer both practical advice and philosophical insights about slow travel, authentic connections, and finding your place in the world. His next dream? Motorcycling through South America—proving the traveler's spirit never truly rests.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
podcast.
As usual, I'm Mike.
Pim is a bit late today.
She will be here soon.
You know Thai time, so some ofthem don't know how to be on
exact time.
But I have my guest here, whichis Tino, my good friend.
How are you doing, Hi, Mike?
I'm good, A bit excited Alittle bit of course.
(00:23):
It's okay.
You had so many adventures inyour life.
This is nothing, believe me,okay.
So you're one of the guys thatI met in this recent trip here,
and we used to go to the samekind of bars in the same areas,
and it took us a bit of time,but we became friends, right?
Yes, and I know a little bitabout your story Not too much,
(00:45):
okay, so I don't need to hearall your life story, right, but
what I do interested in isbasically, first of all, what
brought you to pataya in thefirst place.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
What bring me to pataya?
What brought me to pataya thefirst place?
Oh, this was long, many, many,many years ago.
It was around 2015.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Okay, not that many.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It was on the way.
It was on the way to the coast.
What do you mean?
On the way to the coast?
To the coast, I want to go toKoh Chang and later to Cambodia,
but it was your first time inThailand.
Yeah, okay, I started firsttime in 2014 and then make a
round, because I come here fromGermany to here with a motorbike
.
I ride a motorbike from Germanyto here.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
So how many countries you pass by oh?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
around 10.
10 countries?
Yeah, czech Republic, you canname them all you remember.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, but it needs a line.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
It needs a line Well lot okay, how long that trip
took you from when I started ingermany the first time I come to
thailand, it was around sevenmonths.
Seven months driving motorbikeyes seven months and then I ride
here around.
First make uh, go up to thenorth, to chiang mai, chiang rai
Rai, then come back down, go tothe south, to.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Koh Samui.
Okay, but this was like I guessyou traveled, as you said, many
countries on the way.
In each country you justtraveled around and seen
everything, or there were justcountries you say, fuck it, I
just want to go straight to theborder.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I traveled around.
I want to take my time.
I don't want to just thecountry cross, cross, cross.
That's what I don't want to do.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And how much trip like this cost.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It depends.
It depends on the country anddepends on the conditions, what
you want to do.
So I sleep in cheap hostels orcamping, wild camping.
Take a simple life.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Like, just have your own tent, yes, making barbecue.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
No, here I don't make barbecue.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
No, not here, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Sometimes I'll go in a mini shop, eat some bread and
some sausage Very simple one andyou use the whole trip.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
You use the same motorbike, so it survived the
trip, yes, and you had to driveit back home.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No, before COVID I ended up in Laos, okay, and in
COVID the borders closed, sowhen I stayed there, I know you
love Laos.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I love Laos.
Yeah, this is one of yourfavorite countries.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yes, it is Lovely people, it's nice.
And then my father passed away,so I go back to Germany In 2019
, he passed away 21.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
21.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Sorry, okay, and then I go back and two years I not
come back.
So in 2023, I come back.
And then the motorbike wastotally fucked.
Oh, because you left it there.
Just make the number plate andI can say the insurance.
I don't have it anymore.
But I found someone who boughtit $300, yes, Nice.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Which motorbike was it Not a big motorbike?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Honda CBF 500, a very small bike 500 CC.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I used to have 125.
They have here.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But in Germany or in Europe they use it for driving
school.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Really yes, the former owner was a driver.
Yeah, you have the Autobahnthere.
You can go much faster thanwhat it can do.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
It was not very fast, but Reliable, I guess.
Yes, and very Okay, this bikenever give up.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
It was your dream to do a trip like that, like you
thought about this long time yes, okay, I think, and it's still
a dream.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
What do you mean?
You still want to do it again?
I still want to do it.
For example, now I bring thistrip was a planet with a bicycle
.
Okay, yeah, I bring a bicyclewith the plane from germ to here
and then I go down to Koh Samui.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Outside of Koh Samui it's a bit of trouble.
It's an island.
You still have to take theferry.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yes, I take the train from Bangkok to Surat Thani,
okay, and then take the bicycleto the ferry, go to the ferry
and I want to take a surprise tosomeone else, someone special.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
She was surprised and I was surprised as well,
surprised that you came and shewas with someone else.
Yes, for fuck's sake, reallythat's very disappointing.
You took it hard or you said,fuck it, it didn't bother you
much, you knew, you know thegame.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Oh it was hard.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It was hard, yeah, yes, it surprised you that
something like this happened?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Surprised me because one week before she told me she
talked to me on a video call.
If you not come to my birthday,I not talk to you anymore and
talk to you anymore.
And then on her birthday shewas doing someone else?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yes, exactly, but you know, I always tell it to
everyone In order to stay inThailand, and especially in
Pattaya, when you are going tothe bars and everything.
You have to understand the game.
The game is, you know, it haveits own rules.
Everyone goes with everyone,money is the king right and
there is no loyalty as long asthey're walking in the bars.
(06:09):
No, yeah, I know, I know I'mnot trying to educate you.
I'm just saying also to ourlisteners that it's something
that you have to understand.
Don't expect like you come here, you will fall in love and
immediately wow, she will beloyal to you.
Never.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
No, as long as you walk in the bar, she fucking
other people she should not walkin the bar, by the way, she
didn't know freelance she was oh, it's still not a civilian as
we call them.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yes, okay, no, it's not a civilian civilian are the
people I call civilian thepeople that just work the normal
jobs okay, the 7-eleven orwhatever, or go in there working
in the shopping mall.
Those are the civilians, right,they are not the working girls.
Now I understand.
Wait, was she a girl?
Or a ladyboy Girl?
A girl?
Yes, okay, kind of surprisingbecause I know you, but Okay.
(06:58):
So, and then you said I go backto 2015.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, so you stopped in Pattaya?
Yeah, because I told you it wason the way.
Yeah, On the way back.
I go from Cozumel, go up toBangkok.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You heard about this city before.
Yes, I heard about this, andwas it better than what you
expected or it was?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Everybody told me oh, that's such a touristic place,
why you want to go there.
I say I want to see thetouristic place and everybody
say it's it's party.
It was better than I expected,really.
Yes, I want to stay three daysand then finally I stayed one
week, something like this.
And then you told yourself Iwant to come back one time for a
longer stay right?
Yes, because I didn't have muchmore time.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I have to leave the country because of the visa oh,
because you already traveled,yeah, and back then it was only
30 days, 30 days and kind ofwithout extension yeah, and
after 60 days you have to leave.
Yeah, yeah well, you can dovisa runs and stuff like that,
but also you're with a motorbike.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
You don't want that hassle exactly I didn't want to
settle down here, not yet notyet.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
not yet.
Listen.
We were talking about it theother day at the bar.
You You're thinking about it.
Other things stop you fromactually moving here, or not
only here.
I mean, in general, I know youreally like Southeast Asia, yeah
, so yeah.
And by the way, why I ask youabout Pattaya?
Because I had a friend.
He's still my friend, he's frommy country, right, and he's
(08:26):
always my friend.
He's for my country, right, andhe's always as a teen.
I know him since we were like12 and he was always sex crazed,
you know, always talking aboutsex and everything and like
chasing girls all the time.
This is the only thing that wasimportant for him.
And before he got married hehad like a bachelor party here
in thailand, you know.
So him and a bunch of friendswent and they said, okay, we are
going to Pattaya, and hefucking hated it, like he said
(08:49):
it was too much.
You know all the, becauseeverything here is some.
It's actually on the front.
You know the girls areeverywhere.
They are always calling you outhey sexy man, hey handsome man,
what not?
(09:11):
Papa, if you are older, yes,where you wear the glasses you
look older.
But like that come on, you're ahandsome guy, thank you so, and
he came here and it was way toomuch for him.
So they planned to stay herefor two weeks in Pattaya.
They stayed for two days andthey went to Koh Samui.
Oh okay, and he found it muchmore interesting for him.
(09:33):
He liked it much better.
He said it's like more calmeddown.
I don't know, I've never beento Koh Samui, but everyone tells
me it's like a differentenvironment.
Everything is more chill,everything is more calmed down
over there.
That's true.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Everything is a little bit more quiet.
Have nice beaches.
Yeah, here the beaches are notvery nice.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Well, it used to be worse, now they are kind of
better.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And everything is very expensive.
Of course, somewhere you haveto know it's much more expensive
.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, but I think once you go to the well, I will
say no, no, the more touristyplaces, because Pattaya is known
as a tourist place, but for acertain thing normally.
But when you go to Phuket orthe islands or Bangkok,
everything is at least 30% moreexpensive, if not more.
I know, I know I told you thelast time that I went to Bangkok
(10:21):
.
I told that on the last episode, me and Michelle, we went to
some restaurant.
We wanted to eat like it was aGerman restaurant but a general,
and they had also Thai food,because I don't really have a
feeling for German food.
So I just ordered, like friedrice Almost 400 baht For fucking
fried rice and one egg yes.
(10:42):
You know it's crazy here you pay60 baht and you can find it
even cheaper sometimes.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
The good thing I like on Pattaya yeah, it's a very
touristic place but you have alot of opportunities.
If you don't like the bigtrouble with the bars, you go
just with a 10-bath taxisomewhere else.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, and it's not a 10-bath taxi, it's the bad bus.
The bad bus, oh yeah the taxi.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I don't want to confuse the people.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
But yeah, the bad bus , oh sorry, the taxi.
I don't want to confuse thepeople, but yeah, the bad bus,
you can basically take for 10baht and they cross the whole
any street, like you not choosewhere they go.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's like regular buses, yeah you have to know
where you want to go.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, there are actually many things to do here
other than that.
We are actually planning to doan about the other things we can
do in Pattaya other than, Iwill say, just partying.
I will not explain more thanthat because it's still mature
content, but yeah, so there aremany options here, but I find it
(11:40):
like quite relaxing city ifyou're not into the whole heavy
bar scene and heavy partying allnight.
That's true.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And you have every opportunity you have here.
And that's to say, like you sayas well, it's cheaper here,
much cheaper, much cheaper thansome others.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
The hotels are cheaper, the condos are very
cheap here if you know where tolook at.
As long as you don't stay inthe main areas like outside of
Soi Bokau, the second row andthe mid-road, everything is like
the price going down Like.
I know condos that you can takewith the aircon and everything
for 5,000 baht a month, which isfor us Europeans or basically
(12:19):
foreigners.
It's nothing Like 5,000 baht.
It's nothing for us.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
That's actually where I live at the moment 5,000,.
If you use the air aircon, youhave to pay a little bit extra
electricity and water, but it'sstill.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
You never reach more than you know what.
I will exaggerate eightthousand months, and that's with
the laundry also, yes, you know.
Yes, so yeah, it's kind ofcheap to stay here and, as we
said, the food is cheap.
But I'm interested because youtold me you went to a country
that I've never been there yet.
Okay, we actually spoke aboutthat.
We might go there together atsome point.
(12:55):
I want you to tell me about thePhilippines, like how you
reached there and like what youfind the difference.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
How I reached there.
I take a plane from Bangkok toManila.
Okay yeah, of course it's cheap.
It's cheap, it costs around.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And just because you like Southeast.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Asia.
You wanted to visit there, oryou had a friend that's been
there, or Just I like SoutheastAsia Okay, I've been there
before to the Philippines and Isay I like it.
I want to see more of theplaces in the Philippines.
What time like what year firsttime you've been there year
first time?
My first time, philippinesaround 2000.
It was just only two weeks.
It was around 2018 or somethinglike that okay.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So after you already visited the area, and then 2023.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I guess I stayed there for one month.
Okay, I found it very nice In2023.
In 2023, yeah, and now I say Istayed two months.
Okay, I told you I brought thebicycle to here, yeah, yeah, I
want to move from Bangkok toPattaya, then go to Laos and
Vietnam and Again just a roadtrip, but this time without a
(14:05):
moto under you.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Now you are the motor .
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That was yeah, now I'm the motor.
That was the plan.
But then I get a problem withmy ankle, I get an infection
inside, and so at least twoweeks, one month, is gone.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, it takes time also to recover and everything.
Your muscles are not as good asbefore.
Yes, and I try to do again andcome back.
By the way, we're talking likeroad bicycle, right?
Not?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
mountain bicycle.
It's a very old mountainbicycle, really, yes, so nothing
fancy, no, 25 years old.
I was thinking to come with himtoday, but it was a little bit
too late Also the traffic herein Pattaya.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's not as bad as Bangkok, but it's kind of
dangerous to drive in the mainroads.
Yes, and right now we kind ofstay on the main road in
Teprasit, so it's kind ofdangerous to drive here.
I know, I know, I know.
So I would not recommend it toanyone that is not, at least
with a motorbike, you know, thenwhen you have the power behind
(15:05):
it, you can be a bit more safe.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But the good thing also here, I don't run the
motorbike or something like this.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You don't drive it, you have the taxis, the taxis,
yeah, the Bolt, or the Grab, orhowever they call it.
Or the orange vest, evensometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And it's cheap.
Nobody has to drive withalcohol or something like this.
They are cheap, it's cheap.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It's safe, yes, but I have some grief with the orange
vests, oh yeah.
So for the people that doesn'tknow, in Thailand you have, in
Pattaya especially, you have fewoptions for transportation when
we are talking privatetransportation, not like the bus
passes.
So you have an app that'scalled Bolt.
That is basically like Uber youorder whatever you want.
(15:47):
You have another app that'scalled Grab, which is basically
like Uber you order whatever youwant.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
You have another app that's called Grab, which is
basically the same, but you canalso order food.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, so it's like Bolt and it's everything
together.
And you have the orange vests,which are just the motorbike
taxi driver that stay on thecorners of each street and their
prices vary, like they're notalways the most honest people.
You know, I had a friend, Ithink I never told that, but I
(16:15):
had a friend.
He's, let's say he's a bitspecial, yeah, and he came to,
uh, to pataya to meet me andother guy here, like he's not
autistic, but he's on thespectrum.
You know.
Okay, he's very innocent, he'ssuch a nice guy, extremely nice
guy, and one time we had me andhim stayed in the same hotel, of
course, different rooms.
(16:36):
So we went to some bar and wetook like motorbike taxi to the
same hotel.
They charged me 50 baht, theycharged him 350 baht Because
they saw like, oh, an easy grab.
You know, we just tell him aprice, he pay whatever.
Yeah, that's what they do.
Yeah, I don't recommend usingthem unless at least you ask
(16:59):
what the price before.
Yes, like, don't just go onthem and say take me there,
because they will overcharge youmost of the times.
That's the biggest problem.
Yeah, yeah, although they willovercharge you most of the times
.
That's the biggest problem.
Yeah, yeah, although I don'tget it.
You know it's kind of funny.
Why, like they know they havecompetition, a lot of
competition, why you didn'tchange your way Like be more
honest?
You know I don't get itsometimes, but it's their
(17:21):
problem.
I almost never use the orangevests Me also not.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I get called, called a bald, or they grab.
In one minute they are thereand then and you don't have to
explain the location is alreadythere, you don't have to say oh.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I need to go to that hotel over that soy or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Exactly, exactly.
They know you have to use thephone and then it's okay, it's
much easier.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So again, I yeah, I don't know that, so I've never
been there, and I know you'vebeen to Manila, cebu and another
place I forget the name youtold me it's amazing, the island
, the island, boracay, boracay.
I've been to some certainplaces before and this is your
favorite place in thePhilippines, boracay right.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yes, I like it very much.
I wouldn't say my favoriteplace, but it's a very famous
place, a very nice beach and thepeople are nice.
People are very nice and it's avery.
It's a long island but verysmall, on the smallest From
beach to beach.
From beach to beach on thesmallest place is maybe one, one
and a half kilometer, somethinglike this, and one beach, very
(18:26):
public beach, many, many people,and if it's too much people
there, just walk one kilometerto the other side and it's quiet
beach.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
It's more or less the same beach.
I guess I'm just guessingbecause, as I said, I've never
been there.
It's not like a very popularplace, like it's not like a main
city like Cebu or Manila thatis packed with people, and or
it's still kind of.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
It's public.
Many, many tourists go there.
Okay, if you mean this, butit's not a big city, it's one
city on the whole island,especially in the middle.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
No, but when I imagine like Manila or Cebu I'm
thinking at the place biggestBangkok, yeah, something like
this, like very populated, a lotof traffic and and pollution,
you know, very dirty.
So this is the place likeboracay is like that, or it's
more like no, it's more clean toboracay.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
The island is uh, if I heard it right, the former
president from the Philippines.
They had a big problem with thegarbage and then he closed the
island for three or six months.
No tourists come there, nothingclean all your island.
Bring the garbage, fix theproblem and then they can open
(19:44):
again.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I remember many stories I heard about this guy.
He was kind of hard going, veryhard going, like with the war
on they can open again.
I remember many stories I heardabout this guy.
He was kind of, yeah, hardgoing, very hard going like with
the war on drugs and everythingthat he did.
I will not elaborate even morebecause I know many stories, but
he was a hard guy, yeah andit's still with the drugs people
have to know no joint, no drugs, nothing there, yeah, but in.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Thailand also.
They are changing it back Alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
yeah, no it's going to.
I think as much like I readthat soon, even again, you will
not be able to smoke weed hereNot that I'm smoking weed, but
now it's kind of legal, legal inthe home place or something
like this.
Yeah, but it's going to changeagain soon, because they don't
like the weed tourism.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
They want to go back to the.
No, the shops need a license,or something like this yeah,
it's going to.
I also don't.
I have problems, I don't smoke.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I don't like it.
I used to smoke, but it'snothing.
And if we are talking about thebig cities?
So you recommend Cebu overManila, right?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, Cebu much more better than Manila.
Why Manila, I thought very,very populated.
We're talking about noisy,expensive, same Bangkok.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh, it's expensive Because I know in general the
Philippines are much cheaperthan Thailand.
It depends.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Accommodation much more expensive Really.
Yeah, like how much would youpay for the same apartment you
have right now, for example, ifI pay here 500 baht at least 12
euros for one day, I talk nowfor one day.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I cannot talking about the money.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying 500baht for one day.
I have to pay there minimum1000 for the same quality,
minimum double, it's almostdouble.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, it depends where you are and you are able
to rent condos there also, oryou haven't tried it Condos Like
here, that a month rate.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
No, I never try, I just like guest houses.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
How long you stay?
Two, three days, just likeguest houses, yeah, how long you
stay?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
two, three days, and booking always and mostly on the
platform Just bookingcom orsomething like that.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Bookingcom, Agoda, that's working.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, it's easier, and then you can actually check
the place before and see thelocations without guessing.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
And also it's cheaper many times.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So you say that those websites and apps are more
cheaper than just going to theplace and ask how much.
Yes, it's funny that you saythat In Thailand it's the
opposite.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I go in sometimes I walk in how much you charge for
one room.
They say they send me a priceand I look at the internet much,
much cheaper.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Really.
Yeah, yes, you know, I send mea price and I look at the
internet much, much cheaperreally.
Yeah, yes, you know, I.
I had one one incident one timethat there is one hotel that I
really like here.
It's a small hotel, it's notvery big or famous.
It's called the corner lodge.
Yeah, you know it.
I live there.
I live close there.
I I love it.
Yeah, it's one of my favoritehotels because of the stuff and
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the rooms are small, but youhave everything that you need.
I really like it so and theyknow me over there and one time
I had to go somewhere and comeback, so I just did the booking
online.
I didn't have time because Ibought some friends or what,
what not, and I just did thebooking for three rooms and I
went inside and they say, oh, wecancel your booking, your
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booking.
I say why?
They say because you just paidalmost twice the price that we
give you when you come here.
We know you, we don't want youto pay so much, so they just
automatically see my name.
They cancel the booking and itwas not half, but it was like
30% cheaper on the place.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's how it works.
That's a good stuff, yeah, goodservice, and this is why.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I really like this place, like I really enjoy it,
but they are not In Thailand.
Most of the places that Ichecked are cheaper when you
actually come and talk to them.
But I guess other countries.
It depends on the country.
It depends Sometimes more,sometimes less.
You know most of the peoplethat I know that went to the
Philippines.
They mostly complain about twothings.
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First, the food.
They say the food is not thatgreat over there, terrible.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Terrible really.
What's so terrible?
The?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
cleanliness of the food or because here in thailand
, come on, we are used to thebest quality.
I love it.
I'm not only talking about thethai food itself.
I mean the cleanliness level ofthe food, yes, and everything.
You always never get foodpoisoning here.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It's very clean, everything is very fresh so it
depends what kind of food youwant to have.
In the Philippines, yeah,Normally they have some small
kitchens.
You see it here as well.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
They have the Chevys, they have the.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Chevys with some food and you get rice on it on top.
It's around maybe one euro, butthe taste is mostly.
It's cold and the taste ismostly Everything's cold and the
taste is mostly everything whenyou eat is the same, more or
less.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
So this is a Filipino food.
Yeah, filipino food, originalFilipino food, and if you are
going to foreigner food likeWestern, it's better.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
It's better but also expensive.
I can say the same thing whatyou say.
I was in.
Where was it?
I think Coron.
Coron is close, close.
This was my first step aftermanila.
Okay, I take from manila, Itake a ferry to coron which
takes 18, 18 hours, I guess 18hours on the ferry it's very
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slow, or it's so far away it'sfar away and it's also very slow
.
Okay, it was 18 hours, 18 hourswe can fly from here to the US.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
But I want to do it.
I want to go with the ferry.
I never do it again, okay, soyou went there, I went there,
and even I had a fried rice withfried rice chicken.
The most simple dish, the mostsimple thing, and it was around
400 pesos, more or less 300 baht.
If you like the Thai food, youcan go to a restaurant, or you
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can go eat Western food likepizza, schnitzel.
Whatever you want you can have.
It's a little bit moreexpensive.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's good.
No, I mean, it's still not europrices, not even, although the
thing that surprised me always,I not go there too much, but
when you go to the main bigchains here in thailand, I mean
the american chains likemcdonald's, burger king, pizza
hut oh, I will not name them allit's so expensive here compared
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to the street food.
Like you buy a meal inMcDonald's here for about 500,
600 baht.
For 600 baht, me, you, pim,everyone and this guy also we
can go eat together and we willall be full.
Yes, that's true.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So it's so expensive those places.
That's why I don't go inside.
I have no experience.
You never even try, never.
That's why I don't go inside.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I have no experience, but you never even try, never,
never go but you always complainto me why we go to this
restaurant, why not just eatThai food and I know it's not
about the money.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I know you really like that.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I love the Thai food and it's very the Thai food.
The Thai cuisine is verydifferent from the Filipino
cuisine.
Yes, because all is Asian, soit's mostly rice, I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, but the rest is more or less like Western.
They have a lot of pork andwith a lot of fat and something
like this.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Oh, so even less healthy.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
And is it spicy as the Thaifood, or it?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
depends on the dish.
It depends on the dish.
I wouldn't say it's more spicythan the Thai food.
Okay, because I really don'tlike very spicy, just spicy than
the Thai food.
Because I really don't likevery spicy, just a little bit
but not so much.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
The more I talk with you, the less I want to go there
.
I know it sounds horrible, butI have to experience at least
once right, but it's very nice.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
You have nice beaches , you have nice people, at least
everybody talking English.
Everybody's speaking Englishit's very easy and I cannot
explain.
It's a totally differentcountry.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
But if I go with you, I would go to Boracay and I
would go to Cebu.
I will not go to Angeles City,no.
Angeles, which everyone triedto compare to Pattaya, but I
heard from many people it's somuch different.
I will not go to Manila becausewhat you said and I don't know.
It's so much different.
I will not go to Manila becauseof what you said and I don't
know many other places.
I know it's a huge country withmany islands Unbelievable much
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islands.
I think they have more than1,000 islands, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
something like this Much more, much more.
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I have to use Google to ask.
Our listeners probably alreadyGoogled it, so they will know.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And finally, one of the last places I was was a very
small island, a very smallisland to walking around, more
small than Kolan.
I've never been to Kolan, butmaybe something like this.
It was a very small island witha nice hut directly at the
beach.
I had my own nice hut on thebeach, okay, and I go out
snorkeling every day.
Oh, you're directly at thebeach.
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I had my own, my my time, whenI go, only for snorkeling, one
hour around 10, 15 turtles there, turtles.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Turtles Like sea turtles.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Sea turtles Big ones Big ones, yeah, every day, very
easy, nice, nice.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I know in my country we have some problem about the
sea turtles because they alwaysgo to the shore to make the eggs
and then many of them diebecause it's dirty or people run
them over.
You know, everyone has the ATVsor whatever, but there I guess
they take more care about… Ithink so.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I don't know where they do the eggs, or something
like this.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Always on the beach, so they go on the bridge, they
lay the egg and they go.
Yeah, so when the turtle isborn out of the egg, he's on his
own, just walking to the waterand start swimming.
I saw some movies before, yeah,yeah, but it's really
interesting how it works.
So, and if we are talking aboutthe bar scenes, how different
it is from very different reallycompared to here.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, they don't have a bar scene like a gogo or
something like this, like youhave here.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yes, gogo is basically the strip clubs.
Right, they don't have it overthere?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
no, okay, they have something.
They talk like bikini bar.
So there is a stage which is anormal bar.
Yeah, there is a stage there isa stage with with one go-go, ok
yeah, and then only one ladydancing around sometimes, and
the girls are walking in the baror they are freelancers or you
(30:31):
don't know.
I think they are walking there.
They have also something likelady drinks.
Ok, yeah, I just look only onetime inside.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh you like lady drinks.
Okay, yeah, I just look onlyone time inside.
Oh, you're not experiencing itthere, because here you do go to
the bars, yeah, but it's notlike this, it's very different.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, very different, okay, very different.
I just make a few in one or twoof these bikini bars and then,
well, now it's not so clean andI don't feel comfortable if you
want to use to me.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
So if you want to meet someone, you just use the
apps yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Tinder works, just freelancers Tinder works very
good, oh, okay, yeah, that'swhat the only thing.
I use Tinder sometimes and theyhave some good sports bars okay
so just to sit, relax, drinkbeer, watch something, whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Also Sports bars Okay so just to sit relax, drink
beer, watch something.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Also the sports bars have some ladies and they come
sometimes oh.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, but those are freelancers, I guess.
Yes, mostly, okay.
And what about ladyboys overthere?
They have as well, yeah,because everyone I ask.
So there is one friend I willnot say his name because his
name is not politically correct,okay, but he's a Finnish guy.
Yeah, his name is called afterthe famous German leader, so I
(31:44):
cannot say his name.
Really, this is his name, yeah,okay, so he always goes to the
Philippines and he likes itbecause he likes how raw and
fresh are the ladyboys overthere.
Like, he's not very businessoriented, everything is like,
and he's not a very good lookingguy, but he say most of it, get
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for free because they just wantthe attention, someone that
like them, because it's a veryChristian and Catholic country,
right, so it's not very allowedover there.
It's kind of a taboo, right?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It's true.
Yeah, it's totally different.
You don't feel like you are acustomer, it's more or less you
be a friend, they like theattention, exactly, but about
the looks?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
you find them look better there or it doesn't
matter.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Some yes, some sometimes yes, sometimes no,
really, yeah, one of the onlycomplaints.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
My friend told me that, yeah, they are fresh and
it's for free, but he said theylook so much worse than the dyes
.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Some of them, yeah, some of them, because also of
the food, you mean they aregetting more fat, yeah, he was
talking about something elsehe's talking about.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
They don't have much like skin care and everything.
They don't normally muchskincare and everything.
They normally don't put toomuch makeup, or when they put,
they put way too much makeup andthey don't really know how to
dress sexy.
They just wear whatever dresstheir mother has or they buy in
the shop.
They don't think about like, oh, I need to look good.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
They say it must be comfortable for me Practice
something like that, somethinganyway, you want to take it off
it doesn't matter.
But but first time you have tohave to look and say wow, I want
to.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, but if you meet her as a freelancer, it's
different, right?
Because then she might come toyour room, yeah, or, if you are
being a gentleman, at least takeher eat first right yes, like
go some restaurant.
And?
And the second complaint Iheard that it's not as safe as
Thailand, because Thailand isvery safe country, extremely
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safe, and there is almost likeyou can walk here drunk in the
street any time of the day.
Nothing will happen to you ifyou're not being stupid.
That's true, yeah, nothing day.
Nothing will happen to you ifyou're not being stupid.
That's true, yeah, nothing, noone will bother you, no one will
care.
Just go home, try not to walkin the middle of the street so
no one will run over.
And don't fight with anyone.
That's true, but in thephilippines, they told me, there
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is a lot of mugging, so robbingpeople on the street.
If you're holding the phone,someone might come snatch your
phone.
Yeah, which I never saw.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
You have to be careful, a little bit more
careful.
Take an attention.
It depends.
It's also in the big cities,manila, maybe, sometimes.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Cebu, it happened to you before that someone tried no
.
Well, you're a big and scaryguy, no.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I don't have an expensive telephone.
I don't have gold with me.
I don't have a watch.
You don't have gold with me.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I don't have a watch.
Oh, it's too much hassle.
What will we take?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
out of him, the bicycle, the 25-year-old bicycle
, nothing more, that's true, andI don't have so much money in
my pocket always.
This they cannot know, but ifit's gone, it's gone.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
The richest people I ever met.
They don't wear fancy clothes.
They don't wear fancy clothes.
They don't have fancy watch.
They look like ordinary people.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Those are the richest people I ever met.
I'm talking millionaires andbillionaires, really, only the
people that want to look rich.
They wear all their brands andthe Rolex and the gold chains.
They are not really rich.
Come on Just to show off.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
There's a special name of them Talahorns.
You heard about this.
It's a Thai name.
No, no, no, I heard about this.
In Germany, the young peoplehave this word Talahorns.
You know, Talahorns?
I never heard of it.
There's some people we wearNike, but it's not a real Nike,
it's a fake Nike, so everythingis fake?
Yeah, more or less.
(35:40):
But they want to look rich, Tolook yeah, but it's not really
rich.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Listen, look at guys like Bill Gates, steve Jobs.
Yeah, all just wear whateverclothes they have, they don't
look.
Stylish, they don't look.
And they are the richest peoplein the world, except for Elon
Musk.
He's fucking crazy, but he'snot a good example.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
No, it's not really.
I would say it's dangerous.
Sometimes in Manila or maybe inthe big cities, in Cebu Also,
they have a lot of people.
They're begging.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I saw that online here.
You see it sometimes, but it'snot in your face here I see
children follow you.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, they follow children come.
Or lady, come with children,with two children Always have
hungry, hungry.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah.
And it's kind of sad because Iguess in one part of you say, oh
, I want to help her yeah, butin another part you say, oh,
it's a business, you're fuckingmaking children just in order to
yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Another part you say, oh, it's a business, you're
fucking making children just inorder to, all the time.
But you see it only in the bigcities.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Like I told, you Cebu Manila, so in the small islands
that you've been it's not verypopular.
No, not really.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Okay, good, it sounds much better because you know, I
was one time, on the way frommy country to here, I stopped in
Ethiopia.
Oh, from my country to here, Istopped in Ethiopia Because it
was the cheapest flight and itwas still faster than going from
my country because my countryyou have to circle around, so.
(37:11):
I've been to Ethiopia.
I had like 12 hours over thereso I thought I'd just go out of
the airport.
Look around, you know, 12 hourssitting in the airport, it's
crazy.
So I was in Addis Ababa, theairport, look around, you know,
12 hours sitting in the airport,it's crazy, I know this.
So I was in Addis Ababa, ofcourse, which is the capital
city, and I was just walkingaround and like a few children
start following me and theyfollowed me for like two and a
half hours Just walking behindme until some of them understood
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after two hours of following mearound, and even if I went to a
restaurant, they waited outside.
After two and a half hours offollowing around, one of them
grabbed my bag and start, andthen I just like smacked him and
say, fuck off.
Like there is a limit, youcannot try to rob me, you know?
And for what?
Like I was not and, by the way,I did give them some money at
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the beginning, which that wasthe mistake, I think.
So, yeah, if I didn't give themmoney, they probably leave me
alone right, probably After 10minutes.
Yeah, but just two and a halfhours following me around and
it's.
You know, it sounds like oh, Idon't want to be bothered, but
it's more than that.
It's very not.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
it's uncomfortable you know, yes, you're not
feeling really well.
No Depends where you want to go.
And also what I forget to saywhen I go to Manila.
I booked the cheapest hotel Ifound and was in Chinatown,
because it was not far from theembassy Okay, no, not embassy,
the immigration, because if youget to the Philippines, you get
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30 days.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Also 30 days, also 30 days.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
But you can extend 30 days very easy, okay, yeah, so
I go there.
I think Chinatown, andeverywhere in the world, in
every city, chinatown is theheart of the place and it's more
or less 20, 23 hours.
You have something to do.
There's some food, some bars orsome restaurants, some shops
(39:07):
open, okay, and it's like ineach city, they have this.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, like the Chinese area, chinatown.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
They have it in Bangkok also, right.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Chinatown and Japantown, I think.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Chinatown in Manila close at 8pm.
Why, I don't know.
I was surprised.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Close, close, like you have nothing to do over
there.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Just have some 7-Elevens.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
You know, I never thought about it.
So in the Philippines ingeneral it's close, like earlier
than Thailand, because here weare used to 4 in the morning.
Three in the morning, yeah, now, yeah, of course I'm not
talking COVID times, orsometimes before.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Do you have to close at two normally?
Yeah, you know.
Yes, you was not here.
I was here since 2016.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
16?
15.
16 or 16.
I don't remember.
Yeah, and I always remember thebar closed.
Yeah, or 16?
I don't remember.
Yeah, and I always remember thebar closed.
Yeah, they close this, but youcan still sit inside.
Come on, it's not really closed.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
yeah, they don't want you to go, they want you to
stay, yeah, but sometimesoutside the police coming, not
here, but it was now.
When you say it was in ChiangMai, they had to close at
midnight behind and policecoming but now now, here, now
it's really good.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I think the city, like, the peak hours for going
out is actually between 1 and 2am.
Yeah, this is the peak hours,that's.
That's true.
Yeah, like you can stay until 4and then you can go some clubs
I will not name them because wealready spoke a lot about them,
but many other clubs here andyou can stay until non-stop.
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Actually, if you want 24 hours,you can have fun here.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
You can find us in the Philippines as well.
Really.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Yeah, so it's not like very closed and how do I
say, not very welcoming forthose kind of things.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
You have to know where you go, and it's from
place to place, from island toisland, it's different.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
So let's say in Cebu, if I go, I'm sorted, I can find
whatever I want in Cebu.
Yes, like even I want five inthe morning and I can find
places to go, I think so I'm notsure I didn't do that.
You're an old guy.
You go to bed in three.
Yes, I stay in Cebu onlytotally three days but you still
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find it much better than theother cities.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yes, yes it was just because I can fly from from
where I came, I think fromBoracay.
Yeah, from Boracay?
Okay, fly to Cebu just one day,and from there I want to go.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
There's a ferry port, from there they go to all the
other islands, but you decidedto stay a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, no, after one day I want to go to another
island.
Then I go to the ferry ports.
What I didn't expect, thatthere was an election in the
Philippines.
Okay, and that means three dayspublic holiday and the whole
Filipinos go to some islands,not can?
Speaker 1 (42:07):
catch a ferry, they leave for the vacation.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yes, okay, not.
Can catch a ferry to the island.
Oh it was full, full, fullybooked for the next three, four
days.
Oh my God, so you have to stayin Cebu?
No, finally, I take the nextisland.
The next ferry is free fortomorrow morning.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Go to the end of the day no but you stayed extra
night, right?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
No, it was just one flight, but I changed the plan.
I could not go with overnightboat to Shiragau, that's where I
want to go.
Somebody recommended me Fullybooked for three days and the
next island from cebu was pohol.
Every day.
I don't know how many ferriesgo there 10, 15, so it was okay
you can go.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
What do you think will be your next big vacation,
like I know?
I know soon you go home, yeah,and I know you will have to stay
home for a while.
We were talking about it forpersonal reasons, but when you
will decide, okay, I, I'm freeagain.
What will you do?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
My still big plan is to go to South America with my
motorbike.
South America when would youstart?
It depends on the ferry, but Ithink at the moment it's like I
bring the motorbike to Hamburgin Germany and I put it on a
ship to Chile, I guess.
Okay, so you?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
start from Chile, from South Chile, I guess, and
then you start to climb your wayup.
It depends you reach Mexico.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
It depends what the weather is.
I have to look, so that's theplan.
I have the motorbike.
Have you been there before?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
No, never.
That's why that You've beenthere before, no, never.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
That's why.
That's why I want to go.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
It's interesting, it's one of the places in
general South America.
I find it very interesting.
I do want to visit there, butit's I don't know if it's still
like that, but you always hearhorror stories about how
extremely dangerous it is, likeit's not a safe place.
Most of the countries they arenot very safe.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I heard about this.
You have to know what you do.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
My father was in South America for, I think,
about six months.
So he did Peru.
I think Brazil, you know themain big ones, probably
Argentina, I don't remember theevery and he liked it, but he
said it's not like, it's notsafe here, not safe like this.
He never been here, but hestill said you have to be very
cautious all the time.
(44:23):
Make sure no one is followingyou.
If he does, you need to knowwhat to say, what to do.
I don't remember if it was himor one of his friends got robbed
two times.
Two times Like just someone cameto him, point the gun, give me
everything, and you don't evenargue okay, here you go, you
need my shirt also my what doyou need?
(44:44):
Yes, so yeah, it's not verysafe, but what can you do?
This is why we choose to comehere at the end of the day.
It's true, like you say,everywhere is safe.
That's as I know.
You do like ladyboys, so Ithink South America.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Not exclusively.
I don't have experience withSouth American ladyboys.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, but I heard from Michel, for example.
His dream is to move to SouthAmerica, colombia.
And I say listen, Michel, inyour business you will have to
retire after two years there,Probably.
Yes, it's not like the Thaisizes over there.
So I don't know, but it mightbe nice have you met.
I don't think you met him.
(45:31):
You met, uh um uh, austrianPeter before Peter from Austria.
No no, austrian Peter beforePeter from.
Austria no, no and Johan, so itdoesn't matter, not the names,
there are two guys, austrianguys, they always travel
together and they always spendthree months in South America,
three months in Thailand Everyyear.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
And like when they're in Thailand, they only stay in
Pattaya.
When in South America, theytravel around Like this is their
style, they really enjoy it andthey say it's safe if you know
where to go.
But again, extremely smart,don't do any stupid things,
don't carry, don't show everyoneyou have Same.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Same Same Philippines .
In some areas I will be excited, but not every country is the
same.
That's what I heard from peoplewho are traveling.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
It's a big continent.
I think I did.
I know I traveled around beforeI found myself eventually in
Thailand and it just feels likehome here.
You know, I don't know if youhave the same feeling Not yet
Not yet Because you're stilltraveling around but for me I
said that in the last episodewhen I'm here I feel home, like
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this is my, my like, better thaneven my country.
I feel here safe, I feel I havefriends here.
I have the community.
Also, one of the things that wehaven't spoke about it how nice
is to meet people in a citylike pataya, like you meet, I
meet guys like you and we meetlike group of guys and most of
the people are extremely nice,very welcoming.
They just want hey, can we hangout?
(47:08):
let's do something together Iknow, yeah, exactly you, you,
you saw that also in othercountries, because I never saw
it like here.
Here.
It's like overwhelming,sometimes even.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
With some other foreigners.
Yeah, yeah, not like this year,not like this year.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Here really, you see some groups connecting and you
know we've been to the same bar,so sometimes you see the same
guys and you know, oh, he willcome with this guy and this guy
and this guy, Like they aretheir own group and it's nice to
see that, by the way,especially expats, so people who
live here, they are justgrouping around all the time.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
But it's normal.
It's normal If you stay andlive here.
You find your friends, yourcommunity.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, you don't think that Pattaya is more of a city
that is actually divided betweenthe tourists, which, okay, come
here for two weeks, three weeksand go back, but, as you said,
we have a big community ofpeople that actually live here.
I don't think you find it inmany other places in the world
that have big communities likethis, not like this, yeah.
If you go Jomtien, for example,or Naclua or wherever like, not
(48:21):
the main, main main area ofPattaya, mostly foreigners live
there.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yeah, because it's quiet and we're talking about it
.
It's quiet and safe and cheapand you have all the
infrastructure.
You're right, the airport's notfar away, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Rayong, or, but this is why people choose to live
here and it's interestingbecause I, as I said, I don't
think it's happening other.
It's happened, but not as muchin other countries, and this is
why it brings many peopletogether.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
It's funny always to see how mixed the group are you
know that's, that's true, butalso I like the thai style,
let's not forget.
I don't want to stay only in agroup of foreigners Of course,
of course.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
I'm not saying that but what do you mean by Thai
style?
Speaker 2 (49:05):
That I want to meet some people from Thailand and
sometimes they invite you.
That was really nice when I wastraveling with the bicycle.
Also go to the countrysidesometimes and they stop.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Hey, hello, can I come in?
Come in.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, come in.
Come in, or give me one drinkor some beer, because they are
excited.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Probably they never not never, but probably they
don't see as many as foreigners.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Not so much, not in the countryside, not with the
bicycle.
I like to drive motorcycle, butwith the bicycle you see more
and you can more connect withthe people.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah, because you are driving much slower.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
You have to make stops.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yes, I guess every two, three hours you have to
stop in order to let yourmuscles relax.
What was the best?
Small, unknown place you findout here in Thailand.
The best small unknown.
You know, like a small villagethat you felt like wow, amazing.
I would never even think aboutfinding a place like that.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
I have to think about this.
Now there are some more certainplaces Krabi town In Krabi.
Krabi town Krabi town, not theisland, but Krabi town was nicei
.
Krabi town Krabi town, not theisland not the island, but Krabi
town was nice because it's likea village.
It's more or less like avillage.
They call it Krabi town butmany people go to Krabi Aonang
(50:29):
beach or then they go to theislands, but in Krabi town
himself they have a nice smallnight market.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
So my previous co-host I used to do the podcast
with me.
She stays now in Krabby Town.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Oh, really yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
She just moved there.
She used to live in Phuket, nowshe stays there.
She's a travel agent, you know,but she always says come, it's
very nice, very quiet.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah, it is, and it's not like a touristy money maker
.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Money grabby Money, grabby Money, grabby Money
grabby?
Speaker 2 (51:01):
No, no, I guess there's an airport.
That's why some people comethere and stay there one night,
yeah, and then they go to grabby, it's like a transportation hub
.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yes, yes, from there you can go to many places,
exactly, but normally peoplejust don't want to stay there
because, oh, I want to go toPippi Island.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
I stay there because, oh, I want to go to pp island,
I want to go to there, I want togo to exactly, exactly.
I stay there one night, or twonights, oh yeah, nice and you,
you reach there by bicycle, by abicycle.
Yeah, amazing, amazing I doenvy you so much.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
I don't know if I would ever do something like
that I'm not talking about thebicycle about like huge road
trip from country to country tocountry to country.
I don't know if I have the like.
I'm lazy.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
At just time.
I have to kick my ass, but Idid it last year.
It was last year I bought alsothe bicycle from Germany
pipeline to Bangkok.
I put everything together andthen I cycling to Kuala Lumpur
Really, yes, and then I flewfrom Kuala Lumpur to Kuching,
which is in Borneo, okay, andtake all the coasts from Borneo,
(52:04):
malaysia, brunei.
And then I want to go with aferry oh, what was the name?
I don't know, I don't know thename of the city anymore Okay,
and there was a ferry to thePhilippines, normally, but two
or three months before I reachedthere the ferry stopped, really
(52:26):
, really, yeah, they had someproblems with pirates or
something like this.
Yeah, nice, and so then I flyback, I flew back to Bangkok,
take the bicycle and go toPattaya, spend one month in
Pattaya for the rest, and thenescape.
I understand.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
I envy you and I wish sometime I can do something
like this, and I do hope thatnext time you are going to the
Philippines you ring me and sayMike, come on come on, take a
plan, I will not take the wholetrip.
I'll just come to Arastu forthree or four days, just
experience it a little bit, andI come back to Thailand, I guess
because, as I told you, this ismy home.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
You know, I want to thank you so much.
It was a great episode.
I really appreciate it.
I hope we will have you again.
I'm sorry that Pim couldn'tmake.
It probably have other plansfor today.
Thank you so much, and I wantto thank our listeners Also.
By the way, shout out to Loufrom Patreon Thank you very much
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Bye-bye guys, bye-bye, nice totalk to you, Thank you.
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
podcast.
As usual, I'm Mike.
Pim is a bit late today.
She will be here soon.
You know Thai time, so some ofthem don't know how to be on
exact time.
But I have my guest here, whichis Tino, my good friend.
How are you doing, Hi, Mike?
I'm good, A bit excited Alittle bit of course.
(00:23):
It's okay.
You had so many adventures inyour life.
This is nothing, believe me,okay.
So you're one of the guys thatI met in this recent trip here,
and we used to go to the samekind of bars in the same areas,
and it took us a bit of time,but we became friends, right?
Yes, and I know a little bitabout your story Not too much,
(00:45):
okay, so I don't need to hearall your life story, right, but
what I do interested in isbasically, first of all, what
brought you to pataya in thefirst place.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
What bring me to pataya?
What brought me to pataya thefirst place?
Oh, this was long, many, many,many years ago.
It was around 2015.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Okay, not that many.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It was on the way.
It was on the way to the coast.
What do you mean?
On the way to the coast?
To the coast, I want to go toKoh Chang and later to Cambodia,
but it was your first time inThailand.
Yeah, okay, I started firsttime in 2014 and then make a
round, because I come here fromGermany to here with a motorbike
.
I ride a motorbike from Germanyto here.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
So how many countries you pass by oh?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
around 10.
10 countries?
Yeah, czech Republic, you canname them all you remember.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, but it needs a line.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
It needs a line Well lot okay, how long that trip
took you from when I started ingermany the first time I come to
thailand, it was around sevenmonths.
Seven months driving motorbikeyes seven months and then I ride
here around.
First make uh, go up to thenorth, to chiang mai, chiang rai
Rai, then come back down, go tothe south, to.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Koh Samui.
Okay, but this was like I guessyou traveled, as you said, many
countries on the way.
In each country you justtraveled around and seen
everything, or there were justcountries you say, fuck it, I
just want to go straight to theborder.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I traveled around.
I want to take my time.
I don't want to just thecountry cross, cross, cross.
That's what I don't want to do.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And how much trip like this cost.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It depends.
It depends on the country anddepends on the conditions, what
you want to do.
So I sleep in cheap hostels orcamping, wild camping.
Take a simple life.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Like, just have your own tent, yes, making barbecue.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
No, here I don't make barbecue.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
No, not here, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Sometimes I'll go in a mini shop, eat some bread and
some sausage Very simple one andyou use the whole trip.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
You use the same motorbike, so it survived the
trip, yes, and you had to driveit back home.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No, before COVID I ended up in Laos, okay, and in
COVID the borders closed, sowhen I stayed there, I know you
love Laos.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I love Laos.
Yeah, this is one of yourfavorite countries.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yes, it is Lovely people, it's nice.
And then my father passed away,so I go back to Germany In 2019
, he passed away 21.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
21.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Sorry, okay, and then I go back and two years I not
come back.
So in 2023, I come back.
And then the motorbike wastotally fucked.
Oh, because you left it there.
Just make the number plate andI can say the insurance.
I don't have it anymore.
But I found someone who boughtit $300, yes, Nice.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Which motorbike was it Not a big motorbike?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Honda CBF 500, a very small bike 500 CC.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I used to have 125.
They have here.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But in Germany or in Europe they use it for driving
school.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Really yes, the former owner was a driver.
Yeah, you have the Autobahnthere.
You can go much faster thanwhat it can do.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
It was not very fast, but Reliable, I guess.
Yes, and very Okay, this bikenever give up.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
It was your dream to do a trip like that, like you
thought about this long time yes, okay, I think, and it's still
a dream.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
What do you mean?
You still want to do it again?
I still want to do it.
For example, now I bring thistrip was a planet with a bicycle
.
Okay, yeah, I bring a bicyclewith the plane from germ to here
and then I go down to Koh Samui.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Outside of Koh Samui it's a bit of trouble.
It's an island.
You still have to take theferry.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yes, I take the train from Bangkok to Surat Thani,
okay, and then take the bicycleto the ferry, go to the ferry
and I want to take a surprise tosomeone else, someone special.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
She was surprised and I was surprised as well,
surprised that you came and shewas with someone else.
Yes, for fuck's sake, reallythat's very disappointing.
You took it hard or you said,fuck it, it didn't bother you
much, you knew, you know thegame.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Oh it was hard.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It was hard, yeah, yes, it surprised you that
something like this happened?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Surprised me because one week before she told me she
talked to me on a video call.
If you not come to my birthday,I not talk to you anymore and
talk to you anymore.
And then on her birthday shewas doing someone else?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yes, exactly, but you know, I always tell it to
everyone In order to stay inThailand, and especially in
Pattaya, when you are going tothe bars and everything.
You have to understand the game.
The game is, you know, it haveits own rules.
Everyone goes with everyone,money is the king right and
there is no loyalty as long asthey're walking in the bars.
(06:09):
No, yeah, I know, I know I'mnot trying to educate you.
I'm just saying also to ourlisteners that it's something
that you have to understand.
Don't expect like you come here, you will fall in love and
immediately wow, she will beloyal to you.
Never.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
No, as long as you walk in the bar, she fucking
other people she should not walkin the bar, by the way, she
didn't know freelance she was oh, it's still not a civilian as
we call them.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yes, okay, no, it's not a civilian civilian are the
people I call civilian thepeople that just work the normal
jobs okay, the 7-eleven orwhatever, or go in there working
in the shopping mall.
Those are the civilians, right,they are not the working girls.
Now I understand.
Wait, was she a girl?
Or a ladyboy Girl?
A girl?
Yes, okay, kind of surprisingbecause I know you, but Okay.
(06:58):
So, and then you said I go backto 2015.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, so you stopped in Pattaya?
Yeah, because I told you it wason the way.
Yeah, On the way back.
I go from Cozumel, go up toBangkok.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You heard about this city before.
Yes, I heard about this, andwas it better than what you
expected or it was?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Everybody told me oh, that's such a touristic place,
why you want to go there.
I say I want to see thetouristic place and everybody
say it's it's party.
It was better than I expected,really.
Yes, I want to stay three daysand then finally I stayed one
week, something like this.
And then you told yourself Iwant to come back one time for a
longer stay right?
Yes, because I didn't have muchmore time.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I have to leave the country because of the visa oh,
because you already traveled,yeah, and back then it was only
30 days, 30 days and kind ofwithout extension yeah, and
after 60 days you have to leave.
Yeah, yeah well, you can dovisa runs and stuff like that,
but also you're with a motorbike.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
You don't want that hassle exactly I didn't want to
settle down here, not yet notyet.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
not yet.
Listen.
We were talking about it theother day at the bar.
You You're thinking about it.
Other things stop you fromactually moving here, or not
only here.
I mean, in general, I know youreally like Southeast Asia, yeah
, so yeah.
And by the way, why I ask youabout Pattaya?
Because I had a friend.
He's still my friend, he's frommy country, right, and he's
(08:26):
always my friend.
He's for my country, right, andhe's always as a teen.
I know him since we were like12 and he was always sex crazed,
you know, always talking aboutsex and everything and like
chasing girls all the time.
This is the only thing that wasimportant for him.
And before he got married hehad like a bachelor party here
in thailand, you know.
So him and a bunch of friendswent and they said, okay, we are
going to Pattaya, and hefucking hated it, like he said
(08:49):
it was too much.
You know all the, becauseeverything here is some.
It's actually on the front.
You know the girls areeverywhere.
They are always calling you outhey sexy man, hey handsome man,
what not?
(09:11):
Papa, if you are older, yes,where you wear the glasses you
look older.
But like that come on, you're ahandsome guy, thank you so, and
he came here and it was way toomuch for him.
So they planned to stay herefor two weeks in Pattaya.
They stayed for two days andthey went to Koh Samui.
Oh okay, and he found it muchmore interesting for him.
(09:33):
He liked it much better.
He said it's like more calmeddown.
I don't know, I've never beento Koh Samui, but everyone tells
me it's like a differentenvironment.
Everything is more chill,everything is more calmed down
over there.
That's true.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Everything is a little bit more quiet.
Have nice beaches.
Yeah, here the beaches are notvery nice.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Well, it used to be worse, now they are kind of
better.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And everything is very expensive.
Of course, somewhere you haveto know it's much more expensive
.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, but I think once you go to the well, I will
say no, no, the more touristyplaces, because Pattaya is known
as a tourist place, but for acertain thing normally.
But when you go to Phuket orthe islands or Bangkok,
everything is at least 30% moreexpensive, if not more.
I know, I know I told you thelast time that I went to Bangkok
(10:21):
.
I told that on the last episode, me and Michelle, we went to
some restaurant.
We wanted to eat like it was aGerman restaurant but a general,
and they had also Thai food,because I don't really have a
feeling for German food.
So I just ordered, like friedrice Almost 400 baht For fucking
fried rice and one egg yes.
(10:42):
You know it's crazy here you pay60 baht and you can find it
even cheaper sometimes.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
The good thing I like on Pattaya yeah, it's a very
touristic place but you have alot of opportunities.
If you don't like the bigtrouble with the bars, you go
just with a 10-bath taxisomewhere else.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, and it's not a 10-bath taxi, it's the bad bus.
The bad bus, oh yeah the taxi.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I don't want to confuse the people.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
But yeah, the bad bus , oh sorry, the taxi.
I don't want to confuse thepeople, but yeah, the bad bus,
you can basically take for 10baht and they cross the whole
any street, like you not choosewhere they go.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's like regular buses, yeah you have to know
where you want to go.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, there are actually many things to do here
other than that.
We are actually planning to doan about the other things we can
do in Pattaya other than, Iwill say, just partying.
I will not explain more thanthat because it's still mature
content, but yeah, so there aremany options here, but I find it
(11:40):
like quite relaxing city ifyou're not into the whole heavy
bar scene and heavy partying allnight.
That's true.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And you have every opportunity you have here.
And that's to say, like you sayas well, it's cheaper here,
much cheaper, much cheaper thansome others.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
The hotels are cheaper, the condos are very
cheap here if you know where tolook at.
As long as you don't stay inthe main areas like outside of
Soi Bokau, the second row andthe mid-road, everything is like
the price going down Like.
I know condos that you can takewith the aircon and everything
for 5,000 baht a month, which isfor us Europeans or basically
(12:19):
foreigners.
It's nothing Like 5,000 baht.
It's nothing for us.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
That's actually where I live at the moment 5,000,.
If you use the air aircon, youhave to pay a little bit extra
electricity and water, but it'sstill.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
You never reach more than you know what.
I will exaggerate eightthousand months, and that's with
the laundry also, yes, you know.
Yes, so yeah, it's kind ofcheap to stay here and, as we
said, the food is cheap.
But I'm interested because youtold me you went to a country
that I've never been there yet.
Okay, we actually spoke aboutthat.
We might go there together atsome point.
(12:55):
I want you to tell me about thePhilippines, like how you
reached there and like what youfind the difference.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
How I reached there.
I take a plane from Bangkok toManila.
Okay yeah, of course it's cheap.
It's cheap, it costs around.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And just because you like Southeast.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Asia.
You wanted to visit there, oryou had a friend that's been
there, or Just I like SoutheastAsia Okay, I've been there
before to the Philippines and Isay I like it.
I want to see more of theplaces in the Philippines.
What time like what year firsttime you've been there year
first time?
My first time, philippinesaround 2000.
It was just only two weeks.
It was around 2018 or somethinglike that okay.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So after you already visited the area, and then 2023.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I guess I stayed there for one month.
Okay, I found it very nice In2023.
In 2023, yeah, and now I say Istayed two months.
Okay, I told you I brought thebicycle to here, yeah, yeah, I
want to move from Bangkok toPattaya, then go to Laos and
Vietnam and Again just a roadtrip, but this time without a
(14:05):
moto under you.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Now you are the motor .
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That was yeah, now I'm the motor.
That was the plan.
But then I get a problem withmy ankle, I get an infection
inside, and so at least twoweeks, one month, is gone.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, it takes time also to recover and everything.
Your muscles are not as good asbefore.
Yes, and I try to do again andcome back.
By the way, we're talking likeroad bicycle, right?
Not?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
mountain bicycle.
It's a very old mountainbicycle, really, yes, so nothing
fancy, no, 25 years old.
I was thinking to come with himtoday, but it was a little bit
too late Also the traffic herein Pattaya.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's not as bad as Bangkok, but it's kind of
dangerous to drive in the mainroads.
Yes, and right now we kind ofstay on the main road in
Teprasit, so it's kind ofdangerous to drive here.
I know, I know, I know.
So I would not recommend it toanyone that is not, at least
with a motorbike, you know, thenwhen you have the power behind
(15:05):
it, you can be a bit more safe.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But the good thing also here, I don't run the
motorbike or something like this.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You don't drive it, you have the taxis, the taxis,
yeah, the Bolt, or the Grab, orhowever they call it.
Or the orange vest, evensometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And it's cheap.
Nobody has to drive withalcohol or something like this.
They are cheap, it's cheap.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It's safe, yes, but I have some grief with the orange
vests, oh yeah.
So for the people that doesn'tknow, in Thailand you have, in
Pattaya especially, you have fewoptions for transportation when
we are talking privatetransportation, not like the bus
passes.
So you have an app that'scalled Bolt.
That is basically like Uber youorder whatever you want.
(15:47):
You have another app that'scalled Grab, which is basically
like Uber you order whatever youwant.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
You have another app that's called Grab, which is
basically the same, but you canalso order food.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, so it's like Bolt and it's everything
together.
And you have the orange vests,which are just the motorbike
taxi driver that stay on thecorners of each street and their
prices vary, like they're notalways the most honest people.
You know, I had a friend, Ithink I never told that, but I
(16:15):
had a friend.
He's, let's say he's a bitspecial, yeah, and he came to,
uh, to pataya to meet me andother guy here, like he's not
autistic, but he's on thespectrum.
You know.
Okay, he's very innocent, he'ssuch a nice guy, extremely nice
guy, and one time we had me andhim stayed in the same hotel, of
course, different rooms.
(16:36):
So we went to some bar and wetook like motorbike taxi to the
same hotel.
They charged me 50 baht, theycharged him 350 baht Because
they saw like, oh, an easy grab.
You know, we just tell him aprice, he pay whatever.
Yeah, that's what they do.
Yeah, I don't recommend usingthem unless at least you ask
(16:59):
what the price before.
Yes, like, don't just go onthem and say take me there,
because they will overcharge youmost of the times.
That's the biggest problem.
Yeah, yeah, although they willovercharge you most of the times
.
That's the biggest problem.
Yeah, yeah, although I don'tget it.
You know it's kind of funny.
Why, like they know they havecompetition, a lot of
competition, why you didn'tchange your way Like be more
honest?
You know I don't get itsometimes, but it's their
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problem.
I almost never use the orangevests Me also not.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I get called, called a bald, or they grab.
In one minute they are thereand then and you don't have to
explain the location is alreadythere, you don't have to say oh.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I need to go to that hotel over that soy or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Exactly, exactly.
They know you have to use thephone and then it's okay, it's
much easier.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So again, I yeah, I don't know that, so I've never
been there, and I know you'vebeen to Manila, cebu and another
place I forget the name youtold me it's amazing, the island
, the island, boracay, boracay.
I've been to some certainplaces before and this is your
favorite place in thePhilippines, boracay right.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yes, I like it very much.
I wouldn't say my favoriteplace, but it's a very famous
place, a very nice beach and thepeople are nice.
People are very nice and it's avery.
It's a long island but verysmall, on the smallest From
beach to beach.
From beach to beach on thesmallest place is maybe one, one
and a half kilometer, somethinglike this, and one beach, very
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public beach, many, many people,and if it's too much people
there, just walk one kilometerto the other side and it's quiet
beach.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
It's more or less the same beach.
I guess I'm just guessingbecause, as I said, I've never
been there.
It's not like a very popularplace, like it's not like a main
city like Cebu or Manila thatis packed with people, and or
it's still kind of.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
It's public.
Many, many tourists go there.
Okay, if you mean this, butit's not a big city, it's one
city on the whole island,especially in the middle.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
No, but when I imagine like Manila or Cebu I'm
thinking at the place biggestBangkok, yeah, something like
this, like very populated, a lotof traffic and and pollution,
you know, very dirty.
So this is the place likeboracay is like that, or it's
more like no, it's more clean toboracay.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
The island is uh, if I heard it right, the former
president from the Philippines.
They had a big problem with thegarbage and then he closed the
island for three or six months.
No tourists come there, nothingclean all your island.
Bring the garbage, fix theproblem and then they can open
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again.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I remember many stories I heard about this guy.
He was kind of hard going, veryhard going, like with the war
on they can open again.
I remember many stories I heardabout this guy.
He was kind of, yeah, hardgoing, very hard going like with
the war on drugs and everythingthat he did.
I will not elaborate even morebecause I know many stories, but
he was a hard guy, yeah andit's still with the drugs people
have to know no joint, no drugs, nothing there, yeah, but in.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Thailand also.
They are changing it back Alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
yeah, no it's going to.
I think as much like I readthat soon, even again, you will
not be able to smoke weed hereNot that I'm smoking weed, but
now it's kind of legal, legal inthe home place or something
like this.
Yeah, but it's going to changeagain soon, because they don't
like the weed tourism.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
They want to go back to the.
No, the shops need a license,or something like this yeah,
it's going to.
I also don't.
I have problems, I don't smoke.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I don't like it.
I used to smoke, but it'snothing.
And if we are talking about thebig cities?
So you recommend Cebu overManila, right?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, Cebu much more better than Manila.
Why Manila, I thought very,very populated.
We're talking about noisy,expensive, same Bangkok.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh, it's expensive Because I know in general the
Philippines are much cheaperthan Thailand.
It depends.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Accommodation much more expensive Really.
Yeah, like how much would youpay for the same apartment you
have right now, for example, ifI pay here 500 baht at least 12
euros for one day, I talk nowfor one day.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I cannot talking about the money.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying 500baht for one day.
I have to pay there minimum1000 for the same quality,
minimum double, it's almostdouble.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, it depends where you are and you are able
to rent condos there also, oryou haven't tried it Condos Like
here, that a month rate.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
No, I never try, I just like guest houses.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
How long you stay?
Two, three days, just likeguest houses, yeah, how long you
stay?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
two, three days, and booking always and mostly on the
platform Just bookingcom orsomething like that.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Bookingcom, Agoda, that's working.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, it's easier, and then you can actually check
the place before and see thelocations without guessing.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
And also it's cheaper many times.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So you say that those websites and apps are more
cheaper than just going to theplace and ask how much.
Yes, it's funny that you saythat In Thailand it's the
opposite.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I go in sometimes I walk in how much you charge for
one room.
They say they send me a priceand I look at the internet much,
much cheaper.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Really.
Yeah, yes, you know, I send mea price and I look at the
internet much, much cheaperreally.
Yeah, yes, you know, I.
I had one one incident one timethat there is one hotel that I
really like here.
It's a small hotel, it's notvery big or famous.
It's called the corner lodge.
Yeah, you know it.
I live there.
I live close there.
I I love it.
Yeah, it's one of my favoritehotels because of the stuff and
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the rooms are small, but youhave everything that you need.
I really like it so and theyknow me over there and one time
I had to go somewhere and comeback, so I just did the booking
online.
I didn't have time because Ibought some friends or what,
what not, and I just did thebooking for three rooms and I
went inside and they say, oh, wecancel your booking, your
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booking.
I say why?
They say because you just paidalmost twice the price that we
give you when you come here.
We know you, we don't want youto pay so much, so they just
automatically see my name.
They cancel the booking and itwas not half, but it was like
30% cheaper on the place.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's how it works.
That's a good stuff, yeah, goodservice, and this is why.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I really like this place, like I really enjoy it,
but they are not In Thailand.
Most of the places that Ichecked are cheaper when you
actually come and talk to them.
But I guess other countries.
It depends on the country.
It depends Sometimes more,sometimes less.
You know most of the peoplethat I know that went to the
Philippines.
They mostly complain about twothings.
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First, the food.
They say the food is not thatgreat over there, terrible.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Terrible really.
What's so terrible?
The?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
cleanliness of the food or because here in thailand
, come on, we are used to thebest quality.
I love it.
I'm not only talking about thethai food itself.
I mean the cleanliness level ofthe food, yes, and everything.
You always never get foodpoisoning here.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It's very clean, everything is very fresh so it
depends what kind of food youwant to have.
In the Philippines, yeah,Normally they have some small
kitchens.
You see it here as well.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
They have the Chevys, they have the.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Chevys with some food and you get rice on it on top.
It's around maybe one euro, butthe taste is mostly.
It's cold and the taste ismostly Everything's cold and the
taste is mostly everything whenyou eat is the same, more or
less.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
So this is a Filipino food.
Yeah, filipino food, originalFilipino food, and if you are
going to foreigner food likeWestern, it's better.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
It's better but also expensive.
I can say the same thing whatyou say.
I was in.
Where was it?
I think Coron.
Coron is close, close.
This was my first step aftermanila.
Okay, I take from manila, Itake a ferry to coron which
takes 18, 18 hours, I guess 18hours on the ferry it's very
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slow, or it's so far away it'sfar away and it's also very slow
.
Okay, it was 18 hours, 18 hourswe can fly from here to the US.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
But I want to do it.
I want to go with the ferry.
I never do it again, okay, soyou went there, I went there,
and even I had a fried rice withfried rice chicken.
The most simple dish, the mostsimple thing, and it was around
400 pesos, more or less 300 baht.
If you like the Thai food, youcan go to a restaurant, or you
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can go eat Western food likepizza, schnitzel.
Whatever you want you can have.
It's a little bit moreexpensive.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's good.
No, I mean, it's still not europrices, not even, although the
thing that surprised me always,I not go there too much, but
when you go to the main bigchains here in thailand, I mean
the american chains likemcdonald's, burger king, pizza
hut oh, I will not name them allit's so expensive here compared
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to the street food.
Like you buy a meal inMcDonald's here for about 500,
600 baht.
For 600 baht, me, you, pim,everyone and this guy also we
can go eat together and we willall be full.
Yes, that's true.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So it's so expensive those places.
That's why I don't go inside.
I have no experience.
You never even try, never.
That's why I don't go inside.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I have no experience, but you never even try, never,
never go but you always complainto me why we go to this
restaurant, why not just eatThai food and I know it's not
about the money.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I know you really like that.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I love the Thai food and it's very the Thai food.
The Thai cuisine is verydifferent from the Filipino
cuisine.
Yes, because all is Asian, soit's mostly rice, I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, but the rest is more or less like Western.
They have a lot of pork andwith a lot of fat and something
like this.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Oh, so even less healthy.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
And is it spicy as the Thaifood, or it?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
depends on the dish.
It depends on the dish.
I wouldn't say it's more spicythan the Thai food.
Okay, because I really don'tlike very spicy, just spicy than
the Thai food.
Because I really don't likevery spicy, just a little bit
but not so much.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
The more I talk with you, the less I want to go there
.
I know it sounds horrible, butI have to experience at least
once right, but it's very nice.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
You have nice beaches , you have nice people, at least
everybody talking English.
Everybody's speaking Englishit's very easy and I cannot
explain.
It's a totally differentcountry.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
But if I go with you, I would go to Boracay and I
would go to Cebu.
I will not go to Angeles City,no.
Angeles, which everyone triedto compare to Pattaya, but I
heard from many people it's somuch different.
I will not go to Manila becausewhat you said and I don't know.
It's so much different.
I will not go to Manila becauseof what you said and I don't
know many other places.
I know it's a huge country withmany islands Unbelievable much
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islands.
I think they have more than1,000 islands, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
something like this Much more, much more.
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I have to use Google to ask.
Our listeners probably alreadyGoogled it, so they will know.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And finally, one of the last places I was was a very
small island, a very smallisland to walking around, more
small than Kolan.
I've never been to Kolan, butmaybe something like this.
It was a very small island witha nice hut directly at the
beach.
I had my own nice hut on thebeach, okay, and I go out
snorkeling every day.
Oh, you're directly at thebeach.
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I had my own, my my time, whenI go, only for snorkeling, one
hour around 10, 15 turtles there, turtles.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Turtles Like sea turtles.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Sea turtles Big ones Big ones, yeah, every day, very
easy, nice, nice.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I know in my country we have some problem about the
sea turtles because they alwaysgo to the shore to make the eggs
and then many of them diebecause it's dirty or people run
them over.
You know, everyone has the ATVsor whatever, but there I guess
they take more care about… Ithink so.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I don't know where they do the eggs, or something
like this.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Always on the beach, so they go on the bridge, they
lay the egg and they go.
Yeah, so when the turtle isborn out of the egg, he's on his
own, just walking to the waterand start swimming.
I saw some movies before, yeah,yeah, but it's really
interesting how it works.
So, and if we are talking aboutthe bar scenes, how different
it is from very different reallycompared to here.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, they don't have a bar scene like a gogo or
something like this, like youhave here.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yes, gogo is basically the strip clubs.
Right, they don't have it overthere?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
no, okay, they have something.
They talk like bikini bar.
So there is a stage which is anormal bar.
Yeah, there is a stage there isa stage with with one go-go, ok
yeah, and then only one ladydancing around sometimes, and
the girls are walking in the baror they are freelancers or you
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don't know.
I think they are walking there.
They have also something likelady drinks.
Ok, yeah, I just look only onetime inside.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh you like lady drinks.
Okay, yeah, I just look onlyone time inside.
Oh, you're not experiencing itthere, because here you do go to
the bars, yeah, but it's notlike this, it's very different.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, very different, okay, very different.
I just make a few in one or twoof these bikini bars and then,
well, now it's not so clean andI don't feel comfortable if you
want to use to me.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
So if you want to meet someone, you just use the
apps yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Tinder works, just freelancers Tinder works very
good, oh, okay, yeah, that'swhat the only thing.
I use Tinder sometimes and theyhave some good sports bars okay
so just to sit, relax, drinkbeer, watch something, whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Also Sports bars Okay so just to sit relax, drink
beer, watch something.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Also the sports bars have some ladies and they come
sometimes oh.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, but those are freelancers, I guess.
Yes, mostly, okay.
And what about ladyboys overthere?
They have as well, yeah,because everyone I ask.
So there is one friend I willnot say his name because his
name is not politically correct,okay, but he's a Finnish guy.
Yeah, his name is called afterthe famous German leader, so I
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cannot say his name.
Really, this is his name, yeah,okay, so he always goes to the
Philippines and he likes itbecause he likes how raw and
fresh are the ladyboys overthere.
Like, he's not very businessoriented, everything is like,
and he's not a very good lookingguy, but he say most of it, get
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for free because they just wantthe attention, someone that
like them, because it's a veryChristian and Catholic country,
right, so it's not very allowedover there.
It's kind of a taboo, right?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It's true.
Yeah, it's totally different.
You don't feel like you are acustomer, it's more or less you
be a friend, they like theattention, exactly, but about
the looks?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
you find them look better there or it doesn't
matter.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Some yes, some sometimes yes, sometimes no,
really, yeah, one of the onlycomplaints.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
My friend told me that, yeah, they are fresh and
it's for free, but he said theylook so much worse than the dyes
.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Some of them, yeah, some of them, because also of
the food, you mean they aregetting more fat, yeah, he was
talking about something elsehe's talking about.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
They don't have much like skin care and everything.
They don't normally muchskincare and everything.
They normally don't put toomuch makeup, or when they put,
they put way too much makeup andthey don't really know how to
dress sexy.
They just wear whatever dresstheir mother has or they buy in
the shop.
They don't think about like, oh, I need to look good.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
They say it must be comfortable for me Practice
something like that, somethinganyway, you want to take it off
it doesn't matter.
But but first time you have tohave to look and say wow, I want
to.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, but if you meet her as a freelancer, it's
different, right?
Because then she might come toyour room, yeah, or, if you are
being a gentleman, at least takeher eat first right yes, like
go some restaurant.
And?
And the second complaint Iheard that it's not as safe as
Thailand, because Thailand isvery safe country, extremely
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safe, and there is almost likeyou can walk here drunk in the
street any time of the day.
Nothing will happen to you ifyou're not being stupid.
That's true, yeah, nothing day.
Nothing will happen to you ifyou're not being stupid.
That's true, yeah, nothing, noone will bother you, no one will
care.
Just go home, try not to walkin the middle of the street so
no one will run over.
And don't fight with anyone.
That's true, but in thephilippines, they told me, there
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is a lot of mugging, so robbingpeople on the street.
If you're holding the phone,someone might come snatch your
phone.
Yeah, which I never saw.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
You have to be careful, a little bit more
careful.
Take an attention.
It depends.
It's also in the big cities,manila, maybe, sometimes.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Cebu, it happened to you before that someone tried no
.
Well, you're a big and scaryguy, no.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I don't have an expensive telephone.
I don't have gold with me.
I don't have a watch.
You don't have gold with me.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I don't have a watch.
Oh, it's too much hassle.
What will we take?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
out of him, the bicycle, the 25-year-old bicycle
, nothing more, that's true, andI don't have so much money in
my pocket always.
This they cannot know, but ifit's gone, it's gone.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
The richest people I ever met.
They don't wear fancy clothes.
They don't wear fancy clothes.
They don't have fancy watch.
They look like ordinary people.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Those are the richest people I ever met.
I'm talking millionaires andbillionaires, really, only the
people that want to look rich.
They wear all their brands andthe Rolex and the gold chains.
They are not really rich.
Come on Just to show off.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
There's a special name of them Talahorns.
You heard about this.
It's a Thai name.
No, no, no, I heard about this.
In Germany, the young peoplehave this word Talahorns.
You know, Talahorns?
I never heard of it.
There's some people we wearNike, but it's not a real Nike,
it's a fake Nike, so everythingis fake?
Yeah, more or less.
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But they want to look rich, Tolook yeah, but it's not really
rich.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Listen, look at guys like Bill Gates, steve Jobs.
Yeah, all just wear whateverclothes they have, they don't
look.
Stylish, they don't look.
And they are the richest peoplein the world, except for Elon
Musk.
He's fucking crazy, but he'snot a good example.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
No, it's not really.
I would say it's dangerous.
Sometimes in Manila or maybe inthe big cities, in Cebu Also,
they have a lot of people.
They're begging.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I saw that online here.
You see it sometimes, but it'snot in your face here I see
children follow you.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, they follow children come.
Or lady, come with children,with two children Always have
hungry, hungry.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah.
And it's kind of sad because Iguess in one part of you say, oh
, I want to help her yeah, butin another part you say, oh,
it's a business, you're fuckingmaking children just in order to
yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Another part you say, oh, it's a business, you're
fucking making children just inorder to, all the time.
But you see it only in the bigcities.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Like I told, you Cebu Manila, so in the small islands
that you've been it's not verypopular.
No, not really.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Okay, good, it sounds much better because you know, I
was one time, on the way frommy country to here, I stopped in
Ethiopia.
Oh, from my country to here, Istopped in Ethiopia Because it
was the cheapest flight and itwas still faster than going from
my country because my countryyou have to circle around, so.
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I've been to Ethiopia.
I had like 12 hours over thereso I thought I'd just go out of
the airport.
Look around, you know, 12 hourssitting in the airport, it's
crazy.
So I was in Addis Ababa, theairport, look around, you know,
12 hours sitting in the airport,it's crazy, I know this.
So I was in Addis Ababa, ofcourse, which is the capital
city, and I was just walkingaround and like a few children
start following me and theyfollowed me for like two and a
half hours Just walking behindme until some of them understood
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after two hours of following mearound, and even if I went to a
restaurant, they waited outside.
After two and a half hours offollowing around, one of them
grabbed my bag and start, andthen I just like smacked him and
say, fuck off.
Like there is a limit, youcannot try to rob me, you know?
And for what?
Like I was not and, by the way,I did give them some money at
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the beginning, which that wasthe mistake, I think.
So, yeah, if I didn't give themmoney, they probably leave me
alone right, probably After 10minutes.
Yeah, but just two and a halfhours following me around and
it's.
You know, it sounds like oh, Idon't want to be bothered, but
it's more than that.
It's very not.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
it's uncomfortable you know, yes, you're not
feeling really well.
No Depends where you want to go.
And also what I forget to saywhen I go to Manila.
I booked the cheapest hotel Ifound and was in Chinatown,
because it was not far from theembassy Okay, no, not embassy,
the immigration, because if youget to the Philippines, you get
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30 days.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Also 30 days, also 30 days.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
But you can extend 30 days very easy, okay, yeah, so
I go there.
I think Chinatown, andeverywhere in the world, in
every city, chinatown is theheart of the place and it's more
or less 20, 23 hours.
You have something to do.
There's some food, some bars orsome restaurants, some shops
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open, okay, and it's like ineach city, they have this.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, like the Chinese area, chinatown.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
They have it in Bangkok also, right.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Chinatown and Japantown, I think.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Chinatown in Manila close at 8pm.
Why, I don't know.
I was surprised.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Close, close, like you have nothing to do over
there.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Just have some 7-Elevens.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
You know, I never thought about it.
So in the Philippines ingeneral it's close, like earlier
than Thailand, because here weare used to 4 in the morning.
Three in the morning, yeah, now, yeah, of course I'm not
talking COVID times, orsometimes before.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Do you have to close at two normally?
Yeah, you know.
Yes, you was not here.
I was here since 2016.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
16?
15.
16 or 16.
I don't remember.
Yeah, and I always remember thebar closed.
Yeah, or 16?
I don't remember.
Yeah, and I always remember thebar closed.
Yeah, they close this, but youcan still sit inside.
Come on, it's not really closed.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
yeah, they don't want you to go, they want you to
stay, yeah, but sometimesoutside the police coming, not
here, but it was now.
When you say it was in ChiangMai, they had to close at
midnight behind and policecoming but now now, here, now
it's really good.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I think the city, like, the peak hours for going
out is actually between 1 and 2am.
Yeah, this is the peak hours,that's.
That's true.
Yeah, like you can stay until 4and then you can go some clubs
I will not name them because wealready spoke a lot about them,
but many other clubs here andyou can stay until non-stop.
(40:40):
Actually, if you want 24 hours,you can have fun here.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
You can find us in the Philippines as well.
Really.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Yeah, so it's not like very closed and how do I
say, not very welcoming forthose kind of things.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
You have to know where you go, and it's from
place to place, from island toisland, it's different.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
So let's say in Cebu, if I go, I'm sorted, I can find
whatever I want in Cebu.
Yes, like even I want five inthe morning and I can find
places to go, I think so I'm notsure I didn't do that.
You're an old guy.
You go to bed in three.
Yes, I stay in Cebu onlytotally three days but you still
(41:24):
find it much better than theother cities.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yes, yes it was just because I can fly from from
where I came, I think fromBoracay.
Yeah, from Boracay?
Okay, fly to Cebu just one day,and from there I want to go.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
There's a ferry port, from there they go to all the
other islands, but you decidedto stay a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, no, after one day I want to go to another
island.
Then I go to the ferry ports.
What I didn't expect, thatthere was an election in the
Philippines.
Okay, and that means three dayspublic holiday and the whole
Filipinos go to some islands,not can?
Speaker 1 (42:07):
catch a ferry, they leave for the vacation.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yes, okay, not.
Can catch a ferry to the island.
Oh it was full, full, fullybooked for the next three, four
days.
Oh my God, so you have to stayin Cebu?
No, finally, I take the nextisland.
The next ferry is free fortomorrow morning.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Go to the end of the day no but you stayed extra
night, right?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
No, it was just one flight, but I changed the plan.
I could not go with overnightboat to Shiragau, that's where I
want to go.
Somebody recommended me Fullybooked for three days and the
next island from cebu was pohol.
Every day.
I don't know how many ferriesgo there 10, 15, so it was okay
you can go.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
What do you think will be your next big vacation,
like I know?
I know soon you go home, yeah,and I know you will have to stay
home for a while.
We were talking about it forpersonal reasons, but when you
will decide, okay, I, I'm freeagain.
What will you do?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
My still big plan is to go to South America with my
motorbike.
South America when would youstart?
It depends on the ferry, but Ithink at the moment it's like I
bring the motorbike to Hamburgin Germany and I put it on a
ship to Chile, I guess.
Okay, so you?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
start from Chile, from South Chile, I guess, and
then you start to climb your wayup.
It depends you reach Mexico.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
It depends what the weather is.
I have to look, so that's theplan.
I have the motorbike.
Have you been there before?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
No, never.
That's why that You've beenthere before, no, never.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
That's why.
That's why I want to go.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
It's interesting, it's one of the places in
general South America.
I find it very interesting.
I do want to visit there, butit's I don't know if it's still
like that, but you always hearhorror stories about how
extremely dangerous it is, likeit's not a safe place.
Most of the countries they arenot very safe.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I heard about this.
You have to know what you do.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
My father was in South America for, I think,
about six months.
So he did Peru.
I think Brazil, you know themain big ones, probably
Argentina, I don't remember theevery and he liked it, but he
said it's not like, it's notsafe here, not safe like this.
He never been here, but hestill said you have to be very
cautious all the time.
(44:23):
Make sure no one is followingyou.
If he does, you need to knowwhat to say, what to do.
I don't remember if it was himor one of his friends got robbed
two times.
Two times Like just someone cameto him, point the gun, give me
everything, and you don't evenargue okay, here you go, you
need my shirt also my what doyou need?
(44:44):
Yes, so yeah, it's not verysafe, but what can you do?
This is why we choose to comehere at the end of the day.
It's true, like you say,everywhere is safe.
That's as I know.
You do like ladyboys, so Ithink South America.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Not exclusively.
I don't have experience withSouth American ladyboys.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, but I heard from Michel, for example.
His dream is to move to SouthAmerica, colombia.
And I say listen, Michel, inyour business you will have to
retire after two years there,Probably.
Yes, it's not like the Thaisizes over there.
So I don't know, but it mightbe nice have you met.
I don't think you met him.
(45:31):
You met, uh um uh, austrianPeter before Peter from Austria.
No no, austrian Peter beforePeter from.
Austria no, no and Johan, so itdoesn't matter, not the names,
there are two guys, austrianguys, they always travel
together and they always spendthree months in South America,
three months in Thailand Everyyear.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
And like when they're in Thailand, they only stay in
Pattaya.
When in South America, theytravel around Like this is their
style, they really enjoy it andthey say it's safe if you know
where to go.
But again, extremely smart,don't do any stupid things,
don't carry, don't show everyoneyou have Same.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Same Same Philippines .
In some areas I will be excited, but not every country is the
same.
That's what I heard from peoplewho are traveling.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
It's a big continent.
I think I did.
I know I traveled around beforeI found myself eventually in
Thailand and it just feels likehome here.
You know, I don't know if youhave the same feeling Not yet
Not yet Because you're stilltraveling around but for me I
said that in the last episodewhen I'm here I feel home, like
(46:46):
this is my, my like, better thaneven my country.
I feel here safe, I feel I havefriends here.
I have the community.
Also, one of the things that wehaven't spoke about it how nice
is to meet people in a citylike pataya, like you meet, I
meet guys like you and we meetlike group of guys and most of
the people are extremely nice,very welcoming.
They just want hey, can we hangout?
(47:08):
let's do something together Iknow, yeah, exactly you, you,
you saw that also in othercountries, because I never saw
it like here.
Here.
It's like overwhelming,sometimes even.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
With some other foreigners.
Yeah, yeah, not like this year,not like this year.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Here really, you see some groups connecting and you
know we've been to the same bar,so sometimes you see the same
guys and you know, oh, he willcome with this guy and this guy
and this guy, Like they aretheir own group and it's nice to
see that, by the way,especially expats, so people who
live here, they are justgrouping around all the time.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
But it's normal.
It's normal If you stay andlive here.
You find your friends, yourcommunity.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, you don't think that Pattaya is more of a city
that is actually divided betweenthe tourists, which, okay, come
here for two weeks, three weeksand go back, but, as you said,
we have a big community ofpeople that actually live here.
I don't think you find it inmany other places in the world
that have big communities likethis, not like this, yeah.
If you go Jomtien, for example,or Naclua or wherever like, not
(48:21):
the main, main main area ofPattaya, mostly foreigners live
there.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yeah, because it's quiet and we're talking about it
.
It's quiet and safe and cheapand you have all the
infrastructure.
You're right, the airport's notfar away, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Rayong, or, but this is why people choose to live
here and it's interestingbecause I, as I said, I don't
think it's happening other.
It's happened, but not as muchin other countries, and this is
why it brings many peopletogether.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
It's funny always to see how mixed the group are you
know that's, that's true, butalso I like the thai style,
let's not forget.
I don't want to stay only in agroup of foreigners Of course,
of course.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
I'm not saying that but what do you mean by Thai
style?
Speaker 2 (49:05):
That I want to meet some people from Thailand and
sometimes they invite you.
That was really nice when I wastraveling with the bicycle.
Also go to the countrysidesometimes and they stop.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Hey, hello, can I come in?
Come in.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, come in.
Come in, or give me one drinkor some beer, because they are
excited.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Probably they never not never, but probably they
don't see as many as foreigners.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Not so much, not in the countryside, not with the
bicycle.
I like to drive motorcycle, butwith the bicycle you see more
and you can more connect withthe people.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah, because you are driving much slower.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
You have to make stops.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yes, I guess every two, three hours you have to
stop in order to let yourmuscles relax.
What was the best?
Small, unknown place you findout here in Thailand.
The best small unknown.
You know, like a small villagethat you felt like wow, amazing.
I would never even think aboutfinding a place like that.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
I have to think about this.
Now there are some more certainplaces Krabi town In Krabi.
Krabi town Krabi town, not theisland, but Krabi town was nicei
.
Krabi town Krabi town, not theisland not the island, but Krabi
town was nice because it's likea village.
It's more or less like avillage.
They call it Krabi town butmany people go to Krabi Aonang
(50:29):
beach or then they go to theislands, but in Krabi town
himself they have a nice smallnight market.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
So my previous co-host I used to do the podcast
with me.
She stays now in Krabby Town.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Oh, really yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
She just moved there.
She used to live in Phuket, nowshe stays there.
She's a travel agent, you know,but she always says come, it's
very nice, very quiet.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah, it is, and it's not like a touristy money maker
.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Money grabby Money, grabby Money, grabby Money
grabby?
Speaker 2 (51:01):
No, no, I guess there's an airport.
That's why some people comethere and stay there one night,
yeah, and then they go to grabby, it's like a transportation hub
.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yes, yes, from there you can go to many places,
exactly, but normally peoplejust don't want to stay there
because, oh, I want to go toPippi Island.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
I stay there because, oh, I want to go to pp island,
I want to go to there, I want togo to exactly, exactly.
I stay there one night, or twonights, oh yeah, nice and you,
you reach there by bicycle, by abicycle.
Yeah, amazing, amazing I doenvy you so much.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
I don't know if I would ever do something like
that I'm not talking about thebicycle about like huge road
trip from country to country tocountry to country.
I don't know if I have the like.
I'm lazy.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
At just time.
I have to kick my ass, but Idid it last year.
It was last year I bought alsothe bicycle from Germany
pipeline to Bangkok.
I put everything together andthen I cycling to Kuala Lumpur
Really, yes, and then I flewfrom Kuala Lumpur to Kuching,
which is in Borneo, okay, andtake all the coasts from Borneo,
(52:04):
malaysia, brunei.
And then I want to go with aferry oh, what was the name?
I don't know, I don't know thename of the city anymore Okay,
and there was a ferry to thePhilippines, normally, but two
or three months before I reachedthere the ferry stopped, really
(52:26):
, really, yeah, they had someproblems with pirates or
something like this.
Yeah, nice, and so then I flyback, I flew back to Bangkok,
take the bicycle and go toPattaya, spend one month in
Pattaya for the rest, and thenescape.
I understand.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
I envy you and I wish sometime I can do something
like this, and I do hope thatnext time you are going to the
Philippines you ring me and sayMike, come on come on, take a
plan, I will not take the wholetrip.
I'll just come to Arastu forthree or four days, just
experience it a little bit, andI come back to Thailand, I guess
because, as I told you, this ismy home.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
You know, I want to thank you so much.
It was a great episode.
I really appreciate it.
I hope we will have you again.
I'm sorry that Pim couldn'tmake.
It probably have other plansfor today.
Thank you so much, and I wantto thank our listeners Also.
By the way, shout out to Loufrom Patreon Thank you very much
.
See you again, buddy.
(53:27):
As you said, halloween, we arewaiting for you.
He's the guy that we actuallyknow.
We met in Delirious and then hejust sent me a message the
other day.
Oh, I found your podcast, da dada.
He's a really nice guy fromCanada.
So, lou, thank you very much.
And again, guys, any questionthat you have, whatever you need
, just send us email tomytaiwifepod at gmailcom.
(53:50):
You have all the contactinformation in the description,
basically, of any of our videosand we do appreciate every like,
subscribes or whatever you do.
I know it's boring, everyfucking content creator say the
same, but we do appreciate it.
(54:11):
It's really helping to boostour videos and check out our
Patreon.
There are really cool stuffover there, as Lou saw and just
check it out, and if you thinkthat you want to help us, the
reason we do this in the studioand we did change the whole
format, and everything isbecause of you guys.
(54:31):
So thank you very much and weappreciate it.
And thank you, See you nextepisode.
Bye-bye guys, bye-bye, nice totalk to you, Thank you.
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