June 16, 2025 • 60 mins
From warm welcomes to cold shoulders, our night exploring Pattaya's club scene revealed a troubling pattern of discrimination that contradicts Thailand's reputation for acceptance.
What started as a fun evening with friends at vibrant spots like Boho and Sun's Club quickly soured when our mixed group tried to enter Tunnel Club. Despite having visited before without issue, this time security blocked our ladyboy friends with a hostile "no ladyboys" policy. The rejection wasn't delivered with respect - it was confrontational and degrading.
When we moved to Myst Club hoping for better treatment, we encountered identical discrimination. It was only at Flex Club that our entire group was finally welcomed without prejudice. The stark contrast between venues highlighted how arbitrary these policies truly are, especially puzzling during low season when establishments should welcome paying customers.
Beyond the personal frustration, this experience raises important questions about Thailand's nightlife culture. The country's predominant Buddhist tradition recognizes three genders, and Thai society generally embraces gender diversity - why then do some venues enforce discriminatory policies? Is it misguided business strategy or deeper prejudice?
The night wasn't all negative. We witnessed the warmth and energy ladyboys bring to venues that welcome them - from impressive dance moves to generous bottle service purchases. The clubs practicing inclusion seemed livelier and more profitable than those turning people away at the door.
If you're planning a night out in Pattaya, consider supporting establishments with consistent, inclusive policies. Places like Boho, Sun's Club, and Flex demonstrate that successful nightlife doesn't require discrimination. By choosing where to spend our money, we can encourage more venues to create truly welcoming environments for everyone.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike and sadly I'm stilldoing this without my lovely,
lovely wife, sunari.
But we have two guests againand, by the way, this is a bonus
episode, so there will still bean episode on Friday.
Hello Pim, hello Scott, hello.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hi, hi, mike.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm doing great.
Hi, guy, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, so actually we are doing this episode just in
order to trash on some clubs.
That got us really, reallyangry.
I think it was three nights ago, two nights or three nights ago
.
Two nights ago, I thought yeah,so actually the night started
pretty nice.
Right, we were at, where werewe at?
(00:45):
We went to 69 bar, right, andthen we went to delirious and
after that we went to anotherplace.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
no straight we go to no we went to peachy.
No, we went Cindy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And then I was talking with you and you told me
you're going To Sun Club, toSun Club with your friend, right
, right, right, it was herbirthday the day before, but you
still had the battle on.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, no, we went to Boho first.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh right, right right , wait, wait, wait.
So let's get things straight.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, it go to boho first, like we get.
We get uh just meet up, yeah,and then we straight away to
some club, because I um have abottle of whiskey, uh, uh,
before one night yeah, sobasically in those clubs you can
buy a bottle and if you don'tfinish it they give you a card
and you can use it again.
Yeah right, if you ask them forlike I can't get a card because
like I've got to come back.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, but it was almost full.
I saw the battle.
It was almost full you barelydrank anything.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
No, it's like we just we had a few drinks in Boho in
that time before we go to SunClub and buy a bottle of whiskey
.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Then we feeling I can't say like start but, a
little, and that's why we justhad like feels, yeah, so when we
reached Boho after Cindy's, wewere also a group of like.
Back then we were four men.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Four men and no, we met everyone else later at the
Boho club, right yeah so we wentto Boho, and then you and your
friend sorry I forgot her nameshe came over there, yeah right.
And then we also met the ladiesyeah yeah, and it was nice as
Boho.
It was fun as usual.
(02:42):
It was actually kind of packed,more than normally.
It's normally not that packed.
I'm not going.
I don't know what's going on,like it's the low season and
it's just getting yeah, I, it'sjust like that's the same place,
I thought like um
Speaker 2 (02:57):
the people is would like to spin the like good
spatial place like walkingstreet so of course everyone
walking around that almost everynight, but for some place like
quiet.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
It's very, very quiet for now yeah, but it was pretty
packed in boho that day, thatday it's like yeah normally it's
like not that much more.
By the way, it's a nice likemini club I would call it on
walking street.
It's very small, like it's nota club club yeah compared to the
others ones that we are, otherones that we are going to talk
(03:31):
about, but it's it's a niceplace but the music was good in
that yeah, it's always a goodmusic, but too loud for my taste
because you cannot talk in bohobut above guy he dancing all
the time, yeah, well, wewill get into.
We will get into that, we willget into that.
Wait, wait.
Back then he was just normallydancing, okay, right.
And, by the way, we did itbecause it was Greg's kind of
(03:55):
last day.
Greg also was in the podcast,so our listeners know him.
So it was his last day inPattaya.
Before he's moving on to otherplaces this way, we had a big
meetup.
Yeah, his last day in.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Pattaya before he's moving on to other places.
This way, we had a big meetupand it was very nice, and then
we went to the sun and we usedyour card in order to get drunk.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, uh, that that night is like I'm a leader.
Yeah, she's the leader thatnight.
So we had the battle of whiskeyand I think the two of the
other guys didn't want to drinkwhiskey, so they ordered their
own drink, and then we met theladies.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Ladies, ladies.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And then we met the other ladyboys, which I will not
name, but most of them we knowfrom another bar.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And it was nice.
By the way, sun, in my opinion,it's one of the best-looking
clubs right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like theyinvested a lot of money in order
to make it nice.
By the way, sun, in my opinion,it's one of the best looking
clubs right now.
Like they invested a lot ofmoney in order to make it and
that was packed as well yeah,but it's always packed.
Yeah, have you seen it empty?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
before, I think one of the last times when we went
oh, but you went very late yeah,but it was quiet.
But this yeah, this time wasreally busy.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, it was nice.
It's busy actually, like Ireally like the club.
The music is not that good inmy opinion.
I think they are going more.
They don't have a concept ofmusic, they are just changing
the styles all the time so thatwe get that, and it's kind of
expensive, I must say.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, probably Is this like is it?
Called mixer.
What mixer Mixer?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
mixer.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
When you order.
Yeah, I paid for the mixer like, I think, 700.
Yeah, it's like one bottle ofmixer whatever is probably like
150.
Something like that.
Yeah, yeah, and it doesn't okay.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I understand that it's about the price in that
club yeah, but I I'm surprisedbecause not from your battle,
right, your battle alreadyfinished with the mixers, yeah,
but when you get a battle, youget, let's say, a set of mixers
included in the price, right,right, so I will talk about it
later, because the last club wewent to where I bought the
bottle, they didn't give me themixers for free.
(06:11):
They charged me extra, but Ididn't want to argue.
But they charged me another1,000 baht for the mixers.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, I didn't want to say anything because I don't
want to cause drama and it'sjust 1,000 baht, you know.
But want to cause drama andit's just 1000 bucks, you know.
But it's still.
I will talk about it later,okay, yeah, so we went to the
sun, we met the bigger group andthen we wanted to go to another
place that we knew that one ofour friends had a battle there,
right.
So we are talking about thetunnel, the tunnel club now in
(06:40):
the tunnel club.
We've been many times before.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
For me it's like that time I'm being with you guys
like first time.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
You've never been inside the tunnel, not not?
So me and Scott and Michellewent there a few times and no
problem.
Always they let us in.
I know Michelle has a bottleover there like ready, ready to
use because, as we said, you geta card if you don't finish the
battle that time I go here.
(07:09):
So it's a nice club normally.
Normally it's playing most of,I would say, hip hop and R&B.
It's not like a dance club.
It's a weird vibe but I like it.
It's not that big but it feelskind of intimate actually.
Ah, okay, normally it's.
It's very easy to this place tolook packed right.
(07:31):
Yeah, and your past experiencewith that club were good like
you enjoyed it a few times yeahyou should try it normally, but
I think you cannot now afterwhat happened right, yeah,
that's only one time.
Sorry, fuck them, fuck tunnelclub.
The reason I'm saying that, sothe whole group of us.
(07:51):
So it was yeah.
So when we went to the tunnelwe lost Michelle already.
So we went three guys, twogirls, two ladyboys and then we
met the other ladyboys thatdecided to come with us right,
which was a group of four.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I guess, yeah, four or five, four or five, yeah, but
they're coming up.
After that, we arrived.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, but two minutes after and they knew we were
going to the tunnel.
This is the reason they went tothe tunnel also, and they let
everyone in right Except for thetunnel also, and they let
everyone in right Except of theladyboys, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, so I think Greg walked straight in.
Yeah, I walked straight in.
I waited for them.
You went in, but then stopped.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
So then we then walked back out, because we were
thinking what's going on?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
What the fuck's going on now?
And it was like no, no ladyboys, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
We then walked back out because we were thinking
what's going on, what the fuck'sgoing on now, and it was like
no, no ladyboys.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, I gotta say, like it's that one time I'm
being with your guys, but thatis about like that's an, that's
an no, no, that's an 11, notlike that it's like just two
lady boy and three guy, likethat time.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And two ladies, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, and this time, this time it's like that's
insane, because like we had lady.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, and also we were a big group.
Big group spends a lot of moneyand it's not like that only us
three guys paid.
Everyone would pay for theirdrinks, right, and we plan to
buy a drink over a, buy a bottleover there, yeah, so but that
that is like okay, well, youguys walk and stop by from yeah
(09:34):
of the, the how to say that likeafter the security, yeah that
is security.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And then I'm coming up with ladies my friend lady
boy coming and two lady comingyeah, but the lady.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
They want to let the ladies inside, no problem, they
just checked your ID first yeah,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But as like for me is this doesn't like that.
I'm just straight away and theyknow, not letting my kid in.
That's it about.
About lady they doesn't carebecause they know the lady.
They hope they welcome lady toget in yeah but about to lady
boy.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
They say like no, the first reaction was no, no, no,
no, no, and they were kind ofaggressive about it.
In my opinion, it felt not likeoh, no, guys, we are sorry,
like no way.
Yeah, you know, they were kindof fooled about it.
It was completely uh submissiveyeah, it was not and then I
spoke with the promoter, becausethe promoter knows me, and he
(10:32):
say, like where are you going?
And I say they are not lettingthe group in.
So he went inside and tried tospeak with the owners, like it
took him, I guess, three minutes, but until he came back and he
actually allowed us to go inside.
Well, he couldn't let us insidefor another reason because one
of the lady boys forgot her ID.
(10:53):
But that's not the reason yeahwe felt like we don't want to go
there anymore well, yeah, thatwas another reason because one
of the ladyboys forgot her ID,but that's not the reason.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, we felt like we don't want to go there anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, yeah, that was the thing it was, uh, because I
think I said to him I was likelook, I appreciate that you've
the effort and everything thatyou've now said that they can
come in, but they've alreadybeen offended.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Like.
You can apply it to anything Ifsomeone tells you to fuck off.
And then, oh, it's okay in thefirst place and then goes oh no,
actually you can come in.
You're like well, fuck you.
You didn't want me to do thatthe first time, so why do I want
to come in now when I've beentreated like that?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, it's very, I think it's very rude.
I think it's very rude and Idon't know why clubs do that,
Because we spoke about juju lasttime.
But at juju, at least most ofthe time, if the ladyboy is
going with a man in there, theywill let her inside.
Here we were like a big group,mixed group.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And they still said no, yeah, because that's the
same feeling as the way the ladyboy go with man, but it's just
like they are let lady boy be aseparate, yeah, and I feel like,
come on, we can come like agroup friend and I was also
(12:09):
waiting near the security guysand say they are with me, right.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I pointed at you and say you guys are with me, yeah
and then just, we just walk up,and then they said no yeah until
that one more guy said likeyeah, we can't get in yeah,
after I spoke with and then yeah, about lady boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I have to get a card it doesn't?
I gotta say it.
Doesn't forget her, bring it,but it's loose.
Yeah, she does she find it, bythe way at the end no, no, not
yet.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
No, her forget the only one and until the promoter
came, the other group ofladyboys that we know that knew
that we are going to the tunnel.
They also joined us and theywill not let anyone in.
So I went up to them becauseI'm You're already angry, yeah
so I went up to them because I'mYou're already angry, yeah, we
knew them and I was like yeah,I'm going to fucking chance.
(12:58):
Yeah, but it's more than firstof all.
It's more than that.
We knew them.
They came there because theyknew we are going there also.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, and as like they are, I gotta say like sick
people, like more than uswalking when we yeah, yeah, no
problem they they.
They are okay, well, you go,you gotta go first, then I'm
coming up later.
So it's like okay, we coming alittle bit, but they are like
(13:27):
group together and doesn't likethe way.
Is um coming and lookingcustomer?
I thought they just come andhang out like a friend, but the
way is they say no.
I'm feeling like.
I don't want to go anymore yeah,I don't want to go, because I
(13:47):
just walked right away and theyknow, that's it like, yeah, you
just see how we look.
Okay, we are a ladyboy and theyalready know and they just see
us, but they don't really knowus.
What the reason why we'recoming?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
because we come with friends yeah, and I told them we
are coming as a group and Ithink we all planned.
I'm talking about the businessside.
When you see a big group, youwant to let them inside.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
They are going to spend a lot of money the thing
is as well, because I wasthinking about this.
It's fucking closed season aswell.
Why are you turning people?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
away, yeah, even Juju .
There are rumors that soon hewill let Ladyboys inside again.
Well, I hope they will not go,because it's not fair, like oh,
it's closed season, now we needyou.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
No, I, oh, it's low season now we need you.
Yeah, if you, if you, it ismuch better if it doesn't have
anything like this.
No more I think about like wehuman, we same we.
That's about that.
It is about sexual, so it's notthe way is you can make the
rule to get people.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I don't know if it's bigoty, you can get me.
I don't know if it's from likebeing a bigot or just for they
don't want that customers thatare afraid of ladyboys will not
come inside, right.
I don't know if it's likebusiness oriented decision or
like bigot.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I was thinking about this before we started talking
and you know I'm from the UK.
You can't get, not hope in hell.
You can get away with doingstuff like this now back there,
and I don't want to say stuffthat will get me in trouble say
(15:40):
the wrong thing, but you know,ladyboys are a common thing in
Thailand.
It's what people say.
It's what people say to me whenI say I'm going to Thailand oh
ladyboys the first day of summer.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You're going to sack cock over there.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
So it's not a rare occurrence over here.
And then I've spoken to loadsof ladyboys about their
situation and when they decided,when they knew they were
ladyboy, uh, how their familyfelt about it.
And you know the majority ofthem, yeah, family support me.
(16:20):
You know we're open.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Thailand is an open country and also the their
buddhist stream, believe inthree genders.
You know that right, okay sothe stream of buddhism that they
teach in Thailand.
There is only one other countryin the world that teaches the
same, which is Sri Lanka.
In this stream of Buddhism,they believe in three genders,
(16:45):
so men, lady and whatever isbetween.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Right, okay.
So, that being said, it's likewhy is there then this
discrimination?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So it might be business oriented, because I
know some guys and, by the way,the walking street really
changed in the past, let's sayfive years.
So it used to be multiculturaland now it's mostly Indian and
Arab, in my opinion, and I knowthe Muslim guys, they are more,
I would say, but they think theladyboys are harm, right, but
(17:21):
still they're a bit scared ofthem and maybe it's a business
oriented decision, but it'sstill a fucked up decision yeah
there is a way to do that.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I mean, if they were, you know, the only time I've
been refused into a nightclub inthe UK is when I've been on
like a stag do, which would belike a bachelor party or however
you'd say, in other countries.
But you know, and that'sgenerally a big group of lads,
drunk lads, yeah, and they'reworried that you're going to
(17:51):
come in and cause trouble.
So that's the only thing, yeah,and they're worried that you're
going to come in and causetrouble.
Yeah, and trap the place sothat's the only thing.
Now, I'm sure it has happened,but I've never seen any ladyboys
misbehaving in a club.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It used to happen.
There are stories from 10 yearsago, yeah, yeah, that's what I
mean.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I'm sure it has happened, but I've never
witnessed it.
Now, if they were going in andstabbing people every fucking
night.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Then you can kick them out.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Then like look you know, but it's.
And one thing, like you said,business-wise, whenever I've
seen ladyboys in nightclubs,they're always buying bottles.
They're not buying individualdrinks, like they go out to
spend their money.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You're right as a group.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
You're right, but they're still not spending as
much as the foreigners.
And you, you know that someforeigners are really like
afraid and avoid ladyboys.
You know that yeah, yeah, um.
For for my experience is likewell, okay, doesn't a lot.
I see ladyboy coming up.
I mean like come like hang outtogether and go to nightclub
like a big group.
They are looking for men.
(19:04):
That that is not really thereason why they had that night.
I mean like go out like biggroup and looking for men no,
they're just going to have funmost of them just finished work
at the bar right.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
They already had their share of men and now they
just want to enjoy themselves.
This is why they spend moneyfor their own battle.
They're staying in their ownlittle group and dancing
together and drinking together.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
They pay their own bar fine to get themselves out
of the bar.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
No, the best example was what we saw in the sun.
Right, we had our own twotables and the other group of
ladyboys that we know had liketwo tables also and everyone on
their side.
They are staying with their owngroup.
Yeah, Like not mixing even withother people.
Yeah, Like.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So is this about the foreigners?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Maybe I'm trying to guess.
I'm not sure about this.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Well, I had like I have some guy like a friend.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Decide guy or a friend.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Two guys.
They are friends and they drinktogether in a table like nearby
me, and then they are starttalking about me.
But I doesn't do anything, Ijust you know stay in my space
dancing drinking with friend andwho's tired about who's tired
about, like, curious and talkingabout them and I feel like I
(20:34):
doesn't do anything, I doesn'tcome to talking, flirt, whatever
I doesn't do like trying to getin what they said they said
like oh, how look like that lady, the ladies, the lady boys, and
but have like muscle and, youknow, like a tall and and okay,
we are talking about this allthe time.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So between ourselves, so even with you yeah, it's
like they are sorry.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
They are sad to have conversation like this okay, but
it's not a bad thing in generalyeah, and then the the reason
why, I know because a friend ofme he uh, okay, so, lady boy,
okay, call her she, so sheunderstand the, the language
they speak.
Okay, and she talks to me likeokay, that's how they're talking
(21:20):
to you, like, yeah, they'recurious about you, lady, lady
boy, and I said like I don'tcare about that because, I don't
need to.
You know, I don't need to talkto them.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
If they talk to me, it's up to them.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Well, that is like they say oh look, that's not
like blah blah, blah, blah.
I said I don't, I don't thinkher about it.
If she doesn't like me, justget into me.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, get into me, that's Not not.
I mean it's like not come.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That's it like if we are separate.
You enjoy, I'm enjoying, that'sit.
That's what I want.
I tell my friend.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
They're like um, yeah , her angry.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
For me it's like um this we can enjoy together and
this conversation.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Conversation is not happen, you know I understand,
but sometimes it's coming outfrom curiosity, right?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
let's say it's the first time they're in thailand
and oh, that's a lady boy.
Yeah, they may never have saidone before, yeah, but I'm saying
that's not necessarily a badthing.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Sometime maybe he even will speak louder because
he wants you to hear, and maybeyou can't speak with him.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah right, but they are constantly yeah I get that
and act and doesn't like theyact to me like really they don't
like me and with a movementwhatever, and they like not move
too much, not too loud, andit's like I don't do anything,
(22:49):
yeah, like just leaning intoeach other's ear.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Maybe like okay, dancing, so something like over.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
You know movement, so like you know, like around and
they doesn't like and they, youknow, like yeah, but you're not.
You're never touching anyone.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
You're dancing with yourself, basically after that
have security, like standing onmy back and I feel like what,
what's going on, because theyjust you know, yeah by the way,
I want to say something aboutSun Club again.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
One second.
You remember that there wassome lady that came and say
hello to you, hello to me.
Yeah, you know the reason.
I didn't buy you a drink,because the last time someone
introduced us and not telling meshe's a promoter in the bar, ah
, so in the Sound Club there aresome girls that are working
there in order to get drinks.
(23:39):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if someone introduced me toa girl, I assume she's just a
random girl, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So then I bought her a drinkand then I say, oh, the drink is
very expensive.
And then I see she gets a littlepiece of paper.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
That means like she made her commission uh yeah,
yeah, yeah, so I had the same injuju.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Okay, we have this conversation I was like I'm not
quite sure why that is what Ihave, yeah, but she don't have
any name tags or nothing.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, it's like normal girl hangout yeah, but
she's not, and this is why Isaid hello and she asked me like
three times for a drink.
I said no yeah because if atthe first place she was saying
listen, I walk here, so if youbuy me drink, it would be like
this, then I will decide right.
Okay, now back to the tunnelright, I think.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Going back to what you just saying, pim, like I
Think, if you're a tourist andyou come into Thailand, there's
fucking ladyboys here.
Get over it, especially incities like Pattaya.
Pattaya or parts of Bangkok.
You're going to see it, getover it.
They're not going to come andharass you or attack you.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
If you want to speak to them.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
If you want to interact with them, then you can
.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
They're most of the funny people you can find here
are ladyboys.
Yeah, absolutely, but yeah,then you can't.
There are most of the funnypeople you can find here are
ladyboys yeah, absolutely so,it's.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
But yeah, I think you don't need to be scared, just
get over it yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I gotta say, like I doesn't, I'm a human, and human
viking doesn't bite anyone.
Like it well.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I can argue about biting well, it's, it's like.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, they just don't like.
But how they react to to me ismake me feeling uncomfortable
yeah say so.
Yeah, maybe it's a depends onpersonal for me.
For me it's like I need to bequiet and doesn't like to have
trouble on, so that's why I'mquiet and I'm uh, you know, like
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change play, uh, change placeto stand, and stay because you
don't want to listen to thateven yeah, yeah, like that so
the thing is as well like.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Ladyboys don't just work in bars or clubs in
Thailand, they work everywhere.
7-11 we met one ladyboy thatworked at immigration yeah, I
know today I went to thepharmacy and it was a ladyboy
that served me.
I didn't go.
Oh fuck, I'm not buying thesedrugs, I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I know you enough that you probably these drugs.
I'm out of here.
Well, I know you enough thatyou probably want to buy more
drugs out of her.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
So it's like you know , just because you see them in a
bar or club it doesn't meanthat they will harass you for
something.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, for me.
I'm a lady who are farmer, so Ihave farmer, I'm working in a
farm.
So it do, I have farmer, I'mworking in the farm.
So it's like, if I'm doesn'tworking here, as like a
freelancer lady working in a bar, I go back home and work as a
farmer.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Work as a farmer and in.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Germany have holiday, I'm come to Patria and hang out
like other lady hang out in thenightclub so it doesn't know
who they are and how they do jobwhatever.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, don't assume, all of them are prostitutes.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, don't judge people from how they look like,
because they want to show uplike how they're pretty and yeah
, you just appreciate like okay,you look pretty, that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
But that's about like , oh, and you can speak with
them.
You can be polite and be nice,don't be afraid to talk with
them, but still nice, don't beafraid to talk with them, but
still don't act like, oh, it's alady boy, I have to get out of
here, because then you will notfind any place, even if you go
now, central festivals, forexample right, it's the biggest
mall here.
Well, the second biggest nowafter terminal.
Yeah, there's so many lady boysthat walking, like any regular
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stores there not only the beautyshop, by the way.
Everywhere, like adidas, thereis one lady boy I remember I
went, I want, I was searching tobuy another laptop, so I want,
I went to banana.
There was like one lady boythat knew more about computers
than me, which is kind ofsurprising, right, and she like
corrected me about two things soyeah, about, about sexual I can
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, I can call it sexual.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
It doesn't mean like they can do only one thing.
So we human and we can do manythings in a world like um it.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It doesn't mean, only man can boxing okay, wait, wait
, wait, don't talk about this.
This we keep for anotherepisode it's like, it's like I
want to make a special episodethat will speak about Pim boxing
career because she used to be aboxer.
I told you about that.
No, you haven't saw the.
She haven't showed you thevideo.
(28:31):
No, no okay, later I know aboutsomeone else that we know no,
no, she won a competition likeit's okay, we will keep it.
I will show you later okay shewill show you.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I don't have it on my phone, but yeah so yeah, I just
said, like something man can do, I can do, and something lady
can do I can do that same aslike lady, and how the song goes
I can do that yeah, it's likeit's normally, so I think about
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this, this opinion yeah, you'relike finish.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
You're like coke and pepsi.
Sorry, you're like coca-colaand Coca-Cola and Pepsi and
Pepsi.
You know like people alwaysargue which is better, like
there's one or the other.
You're both.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I think both.
Yeah, I can.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Copsi.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Copsi, I am Copsi, copsi Sprite.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
It's funny because in Israel, so the word for well,
here it's called ladyboy and inthe world it's called tranny or
trans or whatever.
Let's say, if I'm notpolitically correct, it's tranny
.
In Israel.
The word is such a funny wordbecause it came like the word in
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Israel for ladyboy, basicallyis coccinelle.
Now, coccinelle is a Frenchword that means a ladybug.
No, no, sorry, a beetle, not aladybug.
Now, the reason it became theword for that term is because in
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the 60s or the 70s was someFrench lady, French drag queen
that named Coxinelle, that cameto perform in Israel.
It was such a big shock thateveryone, if you want to say
someone is a trans or whatever,oh, coxinelle it's like how they
in no, it's just the name hereyou call lady boy in Israel,
coxinelle right, and you saybefore Coxie right.
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So this is the short.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, it's just the name here you call ladyboy in
Israel, coxinel Right and yousay before Coxie Right.
So this is the short.
Yeah, it's funny, that's likeyou know, like it's just good to
being okay.
I can say like before I'm Ihave, like I'm, I have like
thinking about I could havefriend of Theran or not like
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talking job like this.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Well, today's a happen, of course.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Why not?
You are a funny person, yeah.
And it's like yeah, wait, wait,wait.
Like a friend.
You are not our friend, you arejust using us.
No, no, no, sorry, sorry, I saywrong.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Like, we are friends yeah, and you know what it
doesn't?
It doesn't have any abouttravel curiosity.
We friend and we talk yeah, andwe talk open.
So about um scare a lady boy orwhatever, please get it out of
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your mind and finish this likeyeah, but as I said before, for
some of them is a religion thing.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, which is still funny, because going with
prostitutes no, going withprostitutes is also haram.
Right, it's also haram.
I mean the muslims.
So, oh, no, no, no, I'm notdoing a haram thing because I'm
not touching, well, ladyboys,but I still fuck 20 prostitutes
every day, and drink alcohol, bythe way, which is not allowed
(32:03):
at your religion.
So what the fuck are we talkingabout?
Come on, just be respectful foreveryone.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So now it's just like we need to need to.
I know that we cannot changethem how they do in the
nightclub and doesn't wantladyboy get in like that, but we
haven't finished the story yet.
(32:29):
The story is getting worse theway is fly out somewhere.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
They open for you wait let me do the introduction
for that.
So first of all, fuck tunnel atWalking Street.
Let's start with that.
Fuck tunnel, and after tunnel,everyone I think it was Greg
mainly repeat saying the nameMistbar, mistclub, mistclub,
mistclub.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, Mistclub.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
So we went there and you went forward.
You went before me because Iwent with Pim and her friend to
look for the ID, the lost ID.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yeah, well, we were like we were almost after the
last experience.
We were almost prepared for.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, and you went.
Wait, we'll just explain whoyou walked with.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
So you went with the two ladies and the other four
ladyboys that we went outside,right, okay, two ladies and the
other four ladyboys that we wentoutside, right, okay so, but
greg went with some yeah, so welike split up and went in, as
like noah's ark okay yeah he'salways doing his own, yeah but
um, so yeah, and literally assoon as we walked up to security
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, he just said no, I I was likewhat?
He said they're ladyboys.
I said no, they're ladies.
They always say they're ladies.
I almost thought he'd be likewhat do you mean?
They're ladyboys?
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
The truth is coming.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
So I was like they're , yeah, they're ladies, and he,
he just wasn't yeah he wasn'tentertaining it at all and I
don't want to say I was gettingaggressive, but I was annoyed
because you, you, I kept.
I was sort of arguing with theguy and you tried to say then we
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showed up there is nothing todo.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
It's not worth it because, anyway, if they want to
let us inside, we don't want togo there anymore and just
getting into fight, yeah, let'ssay, even we beat him up, then
the police get involved, thenwhat?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I wasn't going to go down there, but I was just, yeah
, just trying to argue the point.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, but they did not get it, they just got the.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
What is the reason?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, so then we left there.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, and I've never been to Mist, so I don't know if
it's a good club or bad club.
But fuck, missed also.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
So missed new walking street.
I doesn't do anything.
I just like you know that timeI need to go to yeah, I remember
you always piss yourself I'msaying so softly like sorry, can
I get in toilet please?
I just need toilet.
I did like I show id cardbecause I'm yeah, I make sure
like I'm totally in I just needtoilet because that's a strange
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way to hear.
Yeah, and they say no, no, lady, but it's like huh, I just need
toilet, I really need toilet.
If you doesn't get, let me in.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I pee, pee on you.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I and say I'm a lady, while holding your cock and
kissing his leg I'm a lady.
Yeah, okay, well, if you reallyum, welcome me to, to to have
to drain inside.
So of course security is nothave only two, three front of
that inside.
So yeah, they put like followme, and then okay, just to make
sure.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, yeah, just make sure like I'm, and then okay.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Just to make sure yeah, just to make sure like I'm
in toilet and I get out, that'sit so, but they doesn't really
like, they don't care.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
They don't care, that's very nice to.
You went to the toilet?
No, she had to go behind thebars at the back.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, and pay money and then fucking that it's much
it's what I can do.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
You know, for that time so I, I don't know we had
that bad experience in two clubsalready at the same night.
Yeah, so again, fuck tunnel andfuck mist.
M-i-s-t for not letting us in.
M-i-s-t why, why?
Oh, it's with.
Why, yeah, it's why.
Before you check, you saym-y-s-T, y-y, oh, it's with Y,
yeah, it's Y.
Before you checked, you sayY-S-T, okay.
So fuck, yeah.
And then we went to anotherplace that I thought Was called
(36:44):
Miss, but you tell me it'scalled Flex Flex.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I never been there before.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Have you been there before?
For me, I've been there beforeFor one time, and that is be
like second time I'm being so Iheard.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Normally they let ladyboys inside, but from the
back door.
No, no, I'm not joking, I knowit's funny I know, I know it
sounds funny.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
The back, the back door, is about um, I had like uh
with, I gotta say like Miss, or, yeah, miss and Republic.
That is about like ladyboy as agroup have to get in the back
door.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
That is what I know, but above, like no matter what
we're struggling from it was myfirst time over there, so it's
also I think it's only playedlike hip-hop, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
So I gotta say it's only played like hip-hop, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm going to say is it goodto call them like black people?
Yeah, yeah, okay.
So the flight is.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Just don't say any other word than that no, no, no
Sorry.
Is it good to call them the?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
N-word no, no, no, no , no.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
So that for like club it is just like a lot of black
people and yeah, and you knowthe owner is also.
You told me the owner is black,right, he's a black guy, the
manager, oh manager, so yeah,and about like dim style,
whatever.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I really like that, yeah, and for for me it's like
well, the way, is they open forlady boy?
No matter what you come withman or not, you come with a
friend.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
You have a life I told you the other night I saw
two lady boys that I know yeahand they came alone like yeah,
yeah so.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
So we all went in then.
But then we saw others.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, we saw another group that we know, yeah, yeah,
from other bars and stuff.
So we've been like, at the endwe've been like, I think, 10
people.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, like that.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Maybe more, even yeah , yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
But the way it's.
What they needed is the ID card.
That's it, to make sure you'retrending already.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
And it's a nice bar.
I didn't really like the wayit's built, because it's felt
weird.
So there is like the dancingflow, right, and then it's just
three or four rows of table andthen the VIP in the back.
Yeah, it's built kind of weird,in my opinion that is the.
The way is that they'rebuilding before of course I'm
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not saying they have to changethe building and say just the
setup is weird.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, I can see like they have to change the building
and say just the setup is weird.
I can see like they try to getmore table on the middle.
You see like a lot of peoplestanding in the middle and
actually, first we didn't getthe table.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
They just placed out on some like I don't know what.
It was like a big foam it's aspeaker, oh it was the speaker
itself itself.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
I thought this was fun.
No, no, no, it was fun, wasn'tit?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
yeah, there wasn't but very quickly we got the
table because someone left.
But the experience I had overthere was kind of weird and I
spoke about it before.
So I knew that in this place Iwant to buy the bottle of
whatever alcohol we choose and Isaid that before.
So I asked for the menu and atthe menu it said that the bottle
of vodka, with it's absolutevodka, will cost 2650.
(40:01):
Yeah, and I asked would it comewith wixers?
Right?
He said yeah, of course, ofcourse, of course.
He said how many people you are?
He said give me for six people.
He said seven.
I said no, no, six enough,right, because it's about how
many glasses we get yeah andthen he went.
It took him like five minutes.
He came back with the bottle,poured the drink for everyone
(40:23):
and then he came with the billand it's $3,550.
Oh yeah.
So I asked what's going on.
He said no, no, no, it's witheverything together.
I said with what I asked youbefore.
So, like the price, the bucketof ice, yeah, the bucket of ice,
the mixer, which were threeCoke, I think, and two soda we
(40:45):
got, yeah, and the bottle ofvodka itself, yeah.
So I didn't argue because itwas late and I just wanted we us
have fun and let's be honest'sbe honest for foreigners 1000
baht is not that much like okay,we just paid that.
But I think and if someone fromthere from flex listening,
don't do that shit, come on, be,be, be okay with us, we are
(41:07):
coming to spend money, don'tfuck us on that small thing,
just tell ahead.
You can say if he would sayfrom the start listen, this is
the price for the battle.
If you want mixer, it's extra,no problem but he doesn't say
anything.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah no, I asked but he asked, but he doesn't it was
kind of weird okay, um.
So I want to know like that onedoesn't code more and you want
to say again one doesn't codemore.
Yeah about everything they saidand about yeah, if you need me
some more, is it coming or youhave to know?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
he paid more.
How much you paid for the extramixers?
You remember only 350.
Yeah, for for three coke likethat.
No, two coke, one pepsi, uh,two coke, one Sprite.
Sorry, yeah, yeah, somethinglike that.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, I feel like for one dozen.
It would be like you know, likemixer is just like as coming,
like unlimited yeah as many asyou need okay.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
That would be fair if they told me again from the
start.
Yeah, I don't know what's goingon.
They were even nice enough togive us some snacks.
You remember they gave us someI don't know what was it, but
like a snack also.
But just be honest, it's kindof basically a bill padding at
the end of the day, because thisis the price we settle on.
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And I ask you, but the club wasokay, the VIP section.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
When it got like there was a free place to sit,
it was nice yeah, and when weget in, it's like you see, they,
they doesn't have any excuseabout like your lady boy,
whatever, and then like theyopen for everyone to get in and
have fun.
So you can see like there arefour people in there.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, but it wasn't very dancing-oriented.
I felt that not many peoplewere dancing.
At one point I saw somethinglike a square dancing that they
did there.
You saw that.
Move to the left, move to theright.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yeah, it's like in Jordan.
You can see like.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yeah, but most of the people weren't dancing.
It's not like the other clubsthat we are going to they like a
chat.
I see like people coming anddancing just a little and then
they're talking like yeah, andthe music is not that loud, you
can actually speak over thereyeah, yeah and yeah, it's like.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I see it like I doesn't know how, about some
nightclubs that doesn't open forladyboy or whatever, but about
yeah, I see from like for openfor everyone.
They are full and they makemoney and yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, but I would say another thing that few nights
ago, me, michelle and you alsowent to, for example, to tunnel,
and they let us everyone inWith ladyboys, with ladyboys,
with ladyboys, yeah yeah, theylet everyone in yeah, not a
problem.
So, I don't know what's goingon.
Maybe it's like that wasliterally like a week ago.
It was three days before.
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We still had the battle fromthe same day.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, yeah, I understand why you would like to
go there.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
It's not the first time we went.
Michel always liked to go there.
I don't know why, but at theend of the night he wanted to
finish his night there.
I think it's because they haveMcDonald's in the phone, but I'm
not sure he's cheating.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Anyway, it's like I don't know how maybe they
organized from from.
People will like see, but whenthey see at the night people
will like see, but when they seeI will not measure and would be
like uh doesn't care, maybelike that.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
But no, no, no, it's not because of michelle I think
it's about like a lady boy no,you know what I tell you.
More than that.
Last time we went me, him andmichelle.
No lady boys, no, there wereone lady boy with us and then we
met another guy that I will notsay his name.
That came with two lady boysthat were working at Delirious,
which I will not name, and theycame separately.
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Yeah, they came to sit with useventually, because we know each
other, but they came separately.
So it's not about Michelle,right?
So I don't know what to tellyou.
They just change the policy allthe time so is this?
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I see how it's about me.
I mean, like I change to go innightclub, open for ladyboy or
not, and try many, and now Iprefer to go somewhere open for
ladyboys.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
So Boho, as you said before, sun Club, there are not
many actually, not many actually, yeah, flex.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
But yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
I think Republic also .
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Republic not.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
No, Not no.
Greg told me.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
They had a sign like no ladyboys, really, they had a
sign, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
No ladyboys, no Jews.
No, I want to say something.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Well, you know that Thailand is 15 years behind.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, people somewhere will come for me, lady
boyboy, and will come foreveryone.
Know about separate or standardwhatever, but the best music,
in my opinion, is Boho stillBoho.
Because you can find good dancemusic.
I told you, I think, at theclub, that I haven't heard
(46:36):
anyone play faithless for somany years.
And then they play faithlesswith the new mixes it was nice.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Like I said, in Boho, it's very, very pretty.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Extremely pretty, but it's so small that it feels
like a bar more than a club.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, but if you want some players, it's like you
justU out and dancing, so Bohois the choice number one.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
I will not say his name for a reason of what I'm
going to say now, but we evensaw a guy over there that we
normally call him Chip Charlie,and even he goes to the Boho
because it's not that expensiveand it's a nice place to relax.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
you said, like if you just want to listen to music
and have some fun so is it good,because that night we finished,
that night we had a good nightwell, I want to hear your side
of the story, because I left youand Greg there, by the way, it
was funny.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Wait, wait, wait, you will hear it was funny.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, youwill hear.
It was funny because Greg saidgoodbye like six times and we
both said, okay, I'm going tosee you next year and then he
just showed up again.
What are you doing here?
Oh, no, no, no, I forgetWhatever.
So I left because I haven'tseen Pim, and then we met
outside Because apparently shewent to the toilet for half an
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hour.
I don't know what you did overthere.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I had something to talk with the lady.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Okay, your business, not my business.
Yeah, and then I left you andGreg there.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
And then what happened?
Speaker 3 (48:11):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Okay, that was it, you, and.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Greg, what?
No, you did your move, yourusual move.
I've been known to put eyeheels on and nuts around Because
, like what you said earlier,like anything you can do, I can
do Better.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Oh, that's why I'm.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
I could leave the toilet early, more than I can
see him hide you on again thisis what I've proved by doing
that it's only recently thatI've started doing it, but I'm
pretty fucking good at it and Iwant to explain it's not like
he's walking around with highheels until they reach the club.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
You have normal shoes and then around with high heels
until they reach the club.
Right, you have normal shoesand then you take high heels
from someone.
It's not like normally.
Oh yeah, now I'm just a guywith high heels.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
That is good, because he doesn't have to buy a high
heel for you at all.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
No, we do, because we already looked in Lazada.
The other time we went toCindy's but the lady over there
I don't know her too much so Idon't want to give her money,
but I need you to order highheels for him.
43, 9 inch.
No, not 9 inch, 6 inch.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Sorry, you have 43.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
With 6 inch 43, 44.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
I have one long as similar, like 9 inch, like this
yeah, same same.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
They are just measuring their foot right now.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
I want to listen to her.
I can't see like we have samemy feet, same size with Scott.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
You need to check what also more similar in size.
I'm talking about the arms, I'mnot sure.
At the end it was a fun night.
It was fucked up.
(50:19):
And again, fuck Juju.
I know we haven't spoke thatday, but fuck Juju, fuck Daniel,
fuck Mist yeah, and yeah,everyone else.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
I want to again.
I was like if you doesn't likeit doesn't mean like for gender
or whatever.
If you doesn't like how doesn'tmean like for gender or
whatever.
If you doesn't like how theytreat people, that's the same
way you know.
Like, doesn't begin like bighuman and do like separate about
whatever, about how you wear on, about your outfit, about your
(50:52):
look like or about your gender.
Doesn't go that place.
Yeah, exactly, lookingsomewhere open and welcome for
it.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
And also, you will enjoy yourself more when you go
to a bar that accepts everyone,because, as you said, the most
crazy dancer you would see wouldbe the ladyboys, probably, and
they will be the most drunkpeople over there because they
are drinking like this right andfor will be the most drunk
people over there, because theyare drinking like this, right
and for, by the way, you saw atsun club that one of our friends
(51:23):
that work at the lilies justtook a bunch of 20 notes and
just start, yeah, like sending.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
She went on the stage and, like in the ski plus strip
club, she starts throwing themoney everywhere, because that
open, open for them to feelingdo everything yeah and that time
we have, we gotta have like a,then competition on in a flicker
, in effect, on me, I dance,show you, yeah, but you dance
(51:52):
first, and then I just went fuckthis, yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
and then you just start twerking around.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
I just went, nah I'll lose yeah, so I'm feeling like
that is a welcome for me and Ifeel like I can be myself.
I'm feeling like verycomfortable to do like how to
dance like that and with no one,just you and they are
(52:17):
appreciate.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
you like, oh, you dance good, good, good, yeah,
and also the security over theremust stay are extremely good
because, for example, I will notsay who, but some of one of our
friends was heavily making outwith some girl over there, right
, he basically was sitting onher and her boobs were outside.
I will not say who, okay.
(52:38):
But I'm pointing at Scott hereand then the security, because
she cannot be half naked in theclub.
He just came and asked verynicely, listen, please tell your
friend to stop, because it'snot nice.
He wasn't aggressive about it,he was very nice and didn't I
just told you like cut it out.
But for example, no, it wasfunny.
(52:59):
But for example, one time meand Greg went to Juju yeah, yeah
, and we just walking aroundlooking two people to interact
with you know, and we saw oneguy with like four or five
ladies, yeah, so we said helloto him.
Then the security came Justbecause we were talking go out,
(53:19):
why, what happened?
You are harassing him?
I said no, we are just talking.
We came to say hello and theguy was also shocked.
So he said nothing and we'rejust kicked out because we were
talking to someone yeah, theyare so aggressive over there,
yeah, so that that is like um,so that
(53:42):
that is like um, it for forfirst.
It's called like a firstimpression.
Yeah, it does my firstimpression with a flex club good
.
By the way, I have to say myfirst impression with tunnel was
also good, but for some reasonit's changed so like if I would
say, which is my favorite nightclub right now from the one that
I've been in and I'm not goingto nightclub that much sun.
(54:04):
I really like the setting overthere.
I think the prices are okay.
They are a bit steep but stillreasonable.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Yeah but anyway, it's like looking like you feel like
to go out.
But, if that night before yougo and they're like, okay, open
for a ladyboy, a ladyboy can getin, this doesn't have any
problem.
And then another night you feellike I want to go night out,
and then that night it's like no, no, no, no, no.
(54:31):
It's weird yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
It makes you feel more unwelcome, like even in the
beginning.
They say no, you understand.
Oh, okay, that nightclub islike that and she said before no
ladyboys allowed.
Okay, they're a problem, but atleast they are not making us
feel weird about it.
Speaker 3 (54:44):
Yeah but to keep flipping changing it it's like
you think that you're welcome,you go oh yeah, like, which is
even worse.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
This is why I really hope that, if what I heard that
is true, if what I heard will betrue, that Juju is going to
open next month for Ladyboys, Ihope no one go there.
I hope the Ladyboys will not gothere, because it's the worst
thing that they can do.
Right, better just say we findanother place Even now.
Right, better, just say we findanother place even now they let
(55:20):
us in.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Why?
Because it's the low season,because they are losing money.
Fuck that, don't go there.
Because it doesn't, doesn't.
I mean it's like, doesn't say,it's like you, you cannot doing
like, ask them to get in likethat way, because it's like when
you're yeah, when you'repopular, when, when you have,
how do you say that?
Like, everyone wants to get in,but you're like no, no, no, and
(55:43):
then in one day you lose people.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Yeah, when you are doing great, then you start like
say, okay, I'll try to dobetter by segregating people.
This is what is going on,basically.
And then when you are losingmoney, you say, oh, oh, the
people that I didn't want to letin now I need them because I
need them to draw customers orthey pay money by themselves and
yeah, I think probably ladyboydoesn't like to go that I hope
(56:05):
they will not go, but sadly Iknow they will because the
location is so good.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
Of juju sonia, yeah, but the way it's like.
So people like they are they,they can find new things, they
can find a place.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
So maybe it's like yeah, but in that area it's very
hard to find new place well,yeah, we need to stop we need to
talk it off, like not on radio,not on when we are recording,
because I told you who is goingto do something about it.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
Yeah, and one of our friends thinks of doing
something that will improve thearea.
Yeah, so I'm going to say wehave to.
You know, like finish yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
So, yeah, it is hard because everyone is silent.
And today she's the technician,the sound technician, and she
see the timers go to one hourand she, oh, we have to finish,
let's finish now get out of mymind.
There are a few things we haveto say before that.
All right.
So first of all, scott, amazingto have you again as always and
I hope we will have you againthe next not the next time, but
(57:23):
sometime in the future.
I know you are going to bangkoksoon, so, yeah, I want to hear
that experience when you comeback, because I'm not a bangkok
guy.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
You know me, so I want to know what is going on
over there because maybe I likethat, like maybe I want to
bangkok is going on over there,because maybe I want to Bangkok.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Yeah, you were to Bangkok.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
No, like I want to Bangkok.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
Bangkok.
I don't understand the joke.
Sorry, that's a joke, yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Do you want to Bangkok?
Okay, I understand.
Do you want to Bangkok?
Speaker 1 (57:54):
It's a ladyboy joke.
Yeah, yeah, I want to Bangkok,Okay Do you want a Bangkok.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
It's a ladyboy joke.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
Yeah, yeah, I want a Bangkok.
Okay, good for you.
So if you Bangkok in Bangkok,let me know about that.
Yeah, okay.
And also now it's a differentthing we started a Patreon, so
you can find us on Patreon andthe link is also in the show
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(58:45):
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We did very good numbers in thepast months and we are very
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Uh, thank you, pim.
Have anything you want to add?
yeah thank you, mike, for thisis bonus bonus episode yeah,
it's a bonus episode it's notsomething that we are going to
(59:06):
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something interesting to talkabout, for second bonus episode
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Speaker 2 (59:15):
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And thank you everyone.
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Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike and sadly I'm stilldoing this without my lovely,
lovely wife, sunari.
But we have two guests againand, by the way, this is a bonus
episode, so there will still bean episode on Friday.
Hello Pim, hello Scott, hello.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hi, hi, mike.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm doing great.
Hi, guy, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, so actually we are doing this episode just in
order to trash on some clubs.
That got us really, reallyangry.
I think it was three nights ago, two nights or three nights ago
.
Two nights ago, I thought yeah,so actually the night started
pretty nice.
Right, we were at, where werewe at?
(00:45):
We went to 69 bar, right, andthen we went to delirious and
after that we went to anotherplace.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
no straight we go to no we went to peachy.
No, we went Cindy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And then I was talking with you and you told me
you're going To Sun Club, toSun Club with your friend, right
, right, right, it was herbirthday the day before, but you
still had the battle on.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, no, we went to Boho first.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh right, right right , wait, wait, wait.
So let's get things straight.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, it go to boho first, like we get.
We get uh just meet up, yeah,and then we straight away to
some club, because I um have abottle of whiskey, uh, uh,
before one night yeah, sobasically in those clubs you can
buy a bottle and if you don'tfinish it they give you a card
and you can use it again.
Yeah right, if you ask them forlike I can't get a card because
like I've got to come back.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, but it was almost full.
I saw the battle.
It was almost full you barelydrank anything.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
No, it's like we just we had a few drinks in Boho in
that time before we go to SunClub and buy a bottle of whiskey
.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Then we feeling I can't say like start but, a
little, and that's why we justhad like feels, yeah, so when we
reached Boho after Cindy's, wewere also a group of like.
Back then we were four men.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Four men and no, we met everyone else later at the
Boho club, right yeah so we wentto Boho, and then you and your
friend sorry I forgot her nameshe came over there, yeah right.
And then we also met the ladiesyeah yeah, and it was nice as
Boho.
It was fun as usual.
(02:42):
It was actually kind of packed,more than normally.
It's normally not that packed.
I'm not going.
I don't know what's going on,like it's the low season and
it's just getting yeah, I, it'sjust like that's the same place,
I thought like um
Speaker 2 (02:57):
the people is would like to spin the like good
spatial place like walkingstreet so of course everyone
walking around that almost everynight, but for some place like
quiet.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
It's very, very quiet for now yeah, but it was pretty
packed in boho that day, thatday it's like yeah normally it's
like not that much more.
By the way, it's a nice likemini club I would call it on
walking street.
It's very small, like it's nota club club yeah compared to the
others ones that we are, otherones that we are going to talk
(03:31):
about, but it's it's a niceplace but the music was good in
that yeah, it's always a goodmusic, but too loud for my taste
because you cannot talk in bohobut above guy he dancing all
the time, yeah, well, wewill get into.
We will get into that, we willget into that.
Wait, wait.
Back then he was just normallydancing, okay, right.
And, by the way, we did itbecause it was Greg's kind of
(03:55):
last day.
Greg also was in the podcast,so our listeners know him.
So it was his last day inPattaya.
Before he's moving on to otherplaces this way, we had a big
meetup.
Yeah, his last day in.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Pattaya before he's moving on to other places.
This way, we had a big meetupand it was very nice, and then
we went to the sun and we usedyour card in order to get drunk.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, uh, that that night is like I'm a leader.
Yeah, she's the leader thatnight.
So we had the battle of whiskeyand I think the two of the
other guys didn't want to drinkwhiskey, so they ordered their
own drink, and then we met theladies.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Ladies, ladies.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And then we met the other ladyboys, which I will not
name, but most of them we knowfrom another bar.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And it was nice.
By the way, sun, in my opinion,it's one of the best-looking
clubs right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like theyinvested a lot of money in order
to make it nice.
By the way, sun, in my opinion,it's one of the best looking
clubs right now.
Like they invested a lot ofmoney in order to make it and
that was packed as well yeah,but it's always packed.
Yeah, have you seen it empty?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
before, I think one of the last times when we went
oh, but you went very late yeah,but it was quiet.
But this yeah, this time wasreally busy.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, it was nice.
It's busy actually, like Ireally like the club.
The music is not that good inmy opinion.
I think they are going more.
They don't have a concept ofmusic, they are just changing
the styles all the time so thatwe get that, and it's kind of
expensive, I must say.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, probably Is this like is it?
Called mixer.
What mixer Mixer?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
mixer.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
When you order.
Yeah, I paid for the mixer like, I think, 700.
Yeah, it's like one bottle ofmixer whatever is probably like
150.
Something like that.
Yeah, yeah, and it doesn't okay.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I understand that it's about the price in that
club yeah, but I I'm surprisedbecause not from your battle,
right, your battle alreadyfinished with the mixers, yeah,
but when you get a battle, youget, let's say, a set of mixers
included in the price, right,right, so I will talk about it
later, because the last club wewent to where I bought the
bottle, they didn't give me themixers for free.
(06:11):
They charged me extra, but Ididn't want to argue.
But they charged me another1,000 baht for the mixers.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, I didn't want to say anything because I don't
want to cause drama and it'sjust 1,000 baht, you know.
But want to cause drama andit's just 1000 bucks, you know.
But it's still.
I will talk about it later,okay, yeah, so we went to the
sun, we met the bigger group andthen we wanted to go to another
place that we knew that one ofour friends had a battle there,
right.
So we are talking about thetunnel, the tunnel club now in
(06:40):
the tunnel club.
We've been many times before.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
For me it's like that time I'm being with you guys
like first time.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
You've never been inside the tunnel, not not?
So me and Scott and Michellewent there a few times and no
problem.
Always they let us in.
I know Michelle has a bottleover there like ready, ready to
use because, as we said, you geta card if you don't finish the
battle that time I go here.
(07:09):
So it's a nice club normally.
Normally it's playing most of,I would say, hip hop and R&B.
It's not like a dance club.
It's a weird vibe but I like it.
It's not that big but it feelskind of intimate actually.
Ah, okay, normally it's.
It's very easy to this place tolook packed right.
(07:31):
Yeah, and your past experiencewith that club were good like
you enjoyed it a few times yeahyou should try it normally, but
I think you cannot now afterwhat happened right, yeah,
that's only one time.
Sorry, fuck them, fuck tunnelclub.
The reason I'm saying that, sothe whole group of us.
(07:51):
So it was yeah.
So when we went to the tunnelwe lost Michelle already.
So we went three guys, twogirls, two ladyboys and then we
met the other ladyboys thatdecided to come with us right,
which was a group of four.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I guess, yeah, four or five, four or five, yeah, but
they're coming up.
After that, we arrived.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, but two minutes after and they knew we were
going to the tunnel.
This is the reason they went tothe tunnel also, and they let
everyone in right Except for thetunnel also, and they let
everyone in right Except of theladyboys, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, so I think Greg walked straight in.
Yeah, I walked straight in.
I waited for them.
You went in, but then stopped.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
So then we then walked back out, because we were
thinking what's going on?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
What the fuck's going on now?
And it was like no, no ladyboys, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
We then walked back out because we were thinking
what's going on, what the fuck'sgoing on now, and it was like
no, no ladyboys.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, I gotta say, like it's that one time I'm
being with your guys, but thatis about like that's an, that's
an no, no, that's an 11, notlike that it's like just two
lady boy and three guy, likethat time.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And two ladies, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, and this time, this time it's like that's
insane, because like we had lady.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, and also we were a big group.
Big group spends a lot of moneyand it's not like that only us
three guys paid.
Everyone would pay for theirdrinks, right, and we plan to
buy a drink over a, buy a bottleover there, yeah, so but that
that is like okay, well, youguys walk and stop by from yeah
(09:34):
of the, the how to say that likeafter the security, yeah that
is security.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And then I'm coming up with ladies my friend lady
boy coming and two lady comingyeah, but the lady.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
They want to let the ladies inside, no problem, they
just checked your ID first yeah,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But as like for me is this doesn't like that.
I'm just straight away and theyknow, not letting my kid in.
That's it about.
About lady they doesn't carebecause they know the lady.
They hope they welcome lady toget in yeah but about to lady
boy.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
They say like no, the first reaction was no, no, no,
no, no, and they were kind ofaggressive about it.
In my opinion, it felt not likeoh, no, guys, we are sorry,
like no way.
Yeah, you know, they were kindof fooled about it.
It was completely uh submissiveyeah, it was not and then I
spoke with the promoter, becausethe promoter knows me, and he
(10:32):
say, like where are you going?
And I say they are not lettingthe group in.
So he went inside and tried tospeak with the owners, like it
took him, I guess, three minutes, but until he came back and he
actually allowed us to go inside.
Well, he couldn't let us insidefor another reason because one
of the lady boys forgot her ID.
(10:53):
But that's not the reason yeahwe felt like we don't want to go
there anymore well, yeah, thatwas another reason because one
of the ladyboys forgot her ID,but that's not the reason.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, we felt like we don't want to go there anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, yeah, that was the thing it was, uh, because I
think I said to him I was likelook, I appreciate that you've
the effort and everything thatyou've now said that they can
come in, but they've alreadybeen offended.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Like.
You can apply it to anything Ifsomeone tells you to fuck off.
And then, oh, it's okay in thefirst place and then goes oh no,
actually you can come in.
You're like well, fuck you.
You didn't want me to do thatthe first time, so why do I want
to come in now when I've beentreated like that?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, it's very, I think it's very rude.
I think it's very rude and Idon't know why clubs do that,
Because we spoke about juju lasttime.
But at juju, at least most ofthe time, if the ladyboy is
going with a man in there, theywill let her inside.
Here we were like a big group,mixed group.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And they still said no, yeah, because that's the
same feeling as the way the ladyboy go with man, but it's just
like they are let lady boy be aseparate, yeah, and I feel like,
come on, we can come like agroup friend and I was also
(12:09):
waiting near the security guysand say they are with me, right.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I pointed at you and say you guys are with me, yeah
and then just, we just walk up,and then they said no yeah until
that one more guy said likeyeah, we can't get in yeah,
after I spoke with and then yeah, about lady boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I have to get a card it doesn't?
I gotta say it.
Doesn't forget her, bring it,but it's loose.
Yeah, she does she find it, bythe way at the end no, no, not
yet.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
No, her forget the only one and until the promoter
came, the other group ofladyboys that we know that knew
that we are going to the tunnel.
They also joined us and theywill not let anyone in.
So I went up to them becauseI'm You're already angry, yeah
so I went up to them because I'mYou're already angry, yeah, we
knew them and I was like yeah,I'm going to fucking chance.
(12:58):
Yeah, but it's more than firstof all.
It's more than that.
We knew them.
They came there because theyknew we are going there also.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, and as like they are, I gotta say like sick
people, like more than uswalking when we yeah, yeah, no
problem they they.
They are okay, well, you go,you gotta go first, then I'm
coming up later.
So it's like okay, we coming alittle bit, but they are like
(13:27):
group together and doesn't likethe way.
Is um coming and lookingcustomer?
I thought they just come andhang out like a friend, but the
way is they say no.
I'm feeling like.
I don't want to go anymore yeah,I don't want to go, because I
(13:47):
just walked right away and theyknow, that's it like, yeah, you
just see how we look.
Okay, we are a ladyboy and theyalready know and they just see
us, but they don't really knowus.
What the reason why we'recoming?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
because we come with friends yeah, and I told them we
are coming as a group and Ithink we all planned.
I'm talking about the businessside.
When you see a big group, youwant to let them inside.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
They are going to spend a lot of money the thing
is as well, because I wasthinking about this.
It's fucking closed season aswell.
Why are you turning people?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
away, yeah, even Juju .
There are rumors that soon hewill let Ladyboys inside again.
Well, I hope they will not go,because it's not fair, like oh,
it's closed season, now we needyou.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
No, I, oh, it's low season now we need you.
Yeah, if you, if you, it ismuch better if it doesn't have
anything like this.
No more I think about like wehuman, we same we.
That's about that.
It is about sexual, so it's notthe way is you can make the
rule to get people.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I don't know if it's bigoty, you can get me.
I don't know if it's from likebeing a bigot or just for they
don't want that customers thatare afraid of ladyboys will not
come inside, right.
I don't know if it's likebusiness oriented decision or
like bigot.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I was thinking about this before we started talking
and you know I'm from the UK.
You can't get, not hope in hell.
You can get away with doingstuff like this now back there,
and I don't want to say stuffthat will get me in trouble say
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the wrong thing, but you know,ladyboys are a common thing in
Thailand.
It's what people say.
It's what people say to me whenI say I'm going to Thailand oh
ladyboys the first day of summer.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You're going to sack cock over there.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
So it's not a rare occurrence over here.
And then I've spoken to loadsof ladyboys about their
situation and when they decided,when they knew they were
ladyboy, uh, how their familyfelt about it.
And you know the majority ofthem, yeah, family support me.
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You know we're open.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Thailand is an open country and also the their
buddhist stream, believe inthree genders.
You know that right, okay sothe stream of buddhism that they
teach in Thailand.
There is only one other countryin the world that teaches the
same, which is Sri Lanka.
In this stream of Buddhism,they believe in three genders,
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so men, lady and whatever isbetween.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Right, okay.
So, that being said, it's likewhy is there then this
discrimination?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So it might be business oriented, because I
know some guys and, by the way,the walking street really
changed in the past, let's sayfive years.
So it used to be multiculturaland now it's mostly Indian and
Arab, in my opinion, and I knowthe Muslim guys, they are more,
I would say, but they think theladyboys are harm, right, but
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still they're a bit scared ofthem and maybe it's a business
oriented decision, but it'sstill a fucked up decision yeah
there is a way to do that.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I mean, if they were, you know, the only time I've
been refused into a nightclub inthe UK is when I've been on
like a stag do, which would belike a bachelor party or however
you'd say, in other countries.
But you know, and that'sgenerally a big group of lads,
drunk lads, yeah, and they'reworried that you're going to
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come in and cause trouble.
So that's the only thing, yeah,and they're worried that you're
going to come in and causetrouble.
Yeah, and trap the place sothat's the only thing.
Now, I'm sure it has happened,but I've never seen any ladyboys
misbehaving in a club.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It used to happen.
There are stories from 10 yearsago, yeah, yeah, that's what I
mean.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I'm sure it has happened, but I've never
witnessed it.
Now, if they were going in andstabbing people every fucking
night.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Then you can kick them out.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Then like look you know, but it's.
And one thing, like you said,business-wise, whenever I've
seen ladyboys in nightclubs,they're always buying bottles.
They're not buying individualdrinks, like they go out to
spend their money.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You're right as a group.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
You're right, but they're still not spending as
much as the foreigners.
And you, you know that someforeigners are really like
afraid and avoid ladyboys.
You know that yeah, yeah, um.
For for my experience is likewell, okay, doesn't a lot.
I see ladyboy coming up.
I mean like come like hang outtogether and go to nightclub
like a big group.
They are looking for men.
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That that is not really thereason why they had that night.
I mean like go out like biggroup and looking for men no,
they're just going to have funmost of them just finished work
at the bar right.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
They already had their share of men and now they
just want to enjoy themselves.
This is why they spend moneyfor their own battle.
They're staying in their ownlittle group and dancing
together and drinking together.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
They pay their own bar fine to get themselves out
of the bar.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
No, the best example was what we saw in the sun.
Right, we had our own twotables and the other group of
ladyboys that we know had liketwo tables also and everyone on
their side.
They are staying with their owngroup.
Yeah, Like not mixing even withother people.
Yeah, Like.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So is this about the foreigners?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Maybe I'm trying to guess.
I'm not sure about this.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Well, I had like I have some guy like a friend.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Decide guy or a friend.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Two guys.
They are friends and they drinktogether in a table like nearby
me, and then they are starttalking about me.
But I doesn't do anything, Ijust you know stay in my space
dancing drinking with friend andwho's tired about who's tired
about, like, curious and talkingabout them and I feel like I
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doesn't do anything, I doesn'tcome to talking, flirt, whatever
I doesn't do like trying to getin what they said they said
like oh, how look like that lady, the ladies, the lady boys, and
but have like muscle and, youknow, like a tall and and okay,
we are talking about this allthe time.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So between ourselves, so even with you yeah, it's
like they are sorry.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
They are sad to have conversation like this okay, but
it's not a bad thing in generalyeah, and then the the reason
why, I know because a friend ofme he uh, okay, so, lady boy,
okay, call her she, so sheunderstand the, the language
they speak.
Okay, and she talks to me likeokay, that's how they're talking
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to you, like, yeah, they'recurious about you, lady, lady
boy, and I said like I don'tcare about that because, I don't
need to.
You know, I don't need to talkto them.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
If they talk to me, it's up to them.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Well, that is like they say oh look, that's not
like blah blah, blah, blah.
I said I don't, I don't thinkher about it.
If she doesn't like me, justget into me.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, get into me, that's Not not.
I mean it's like not come.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That's it like if we are separate.
You enjoy, I'm enjoying, that'sit.
That's what I want.
I tell my friend.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
They're like um, yeah , her angry.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
For me it's like um this we can enjoy together and
this conversation.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Conversation is not happen, you know I understand,
but sometimes it's coming outfrom curiosity, right?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
let's say it's the first time they're in thailand
and oh, that's a lady boy.
Yeah, they may never have saidone before, yeah, but I'm saying
that's not necessarily a badthing.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Sometime maybe he even will speak louder because
he wants you to hear, and maybeyou can't speak with him.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah right, but they are constantly yeah I get that
and act and doesn't like theyact to me like really they don't
like me and with a movementwhatever, and they like not move
too much, not too loud, andit's like I don't do anything,
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yeah, like just leaning intoeach other's ear.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Maybe like okay, dancing, so something like over.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
You know movement, so like you know, like around and
they doesn't like and they, youknow, like yeah, but you're not.
You're never touching anyone.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
You're dancing with yourself, basically after that
have security, like standing onmy back and I feel like what,
what's going on, because theyjust you know, yeah by the way,
I want to say something aboutSun Club again.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
One second.
You remember that there wassome lady that came and say
hello to you, hello to me.
Yeah, you know the reason.
I didn't buy you a drink,because the last time someone
introduced us and not telling meshe's a promoter in the bar, ah
, so in the Sound Club there aresome girls that are working
there in order to get drinks.
(23:39):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if someone introduced me toa girl, I assume she's just a
random girl, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So then I bought her a drinkand then I say, oh, the drink is
very expensive.
And then I see she gets a littlepiece of paper.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
That means like she made her commission uh yeah,
yeah, yeah, so I had the same injuju.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Okay, we have this conversation I was like I'm not
quite sure why that is what Ihave, yeah, but she don't have
any name tags or nothing.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, it's like normal girl hangout yeah, but
she's not, and this is why Isaid hello and she asked me like
three times for a drink.
I said no yeah because if atthe first place she was saying
listen, I walk here, so if youbuy me drink, it would be like
this, then I will decide right.
Okay, now back to the tunnelright, I think.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Going back to what you just saying, pim, like I
Think, if you're a tourist andyou come into Thailand, there's
fucking ladyboys here.
Get over it, especially incities like Pattaya.
Pattaya or parts of Bangkok.
You're going to see it, getover it.
They're not going to come andharass you or attack you.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
If you want to speak to them.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
If you want to interact with them, then you can
.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
They're most of the funny people you can find here
are ladyboys.
Yeah, absolutely, but yeah,then you can't.
There are most of the funnypeople you can find here are
ladyboys yeah, absolutely so,it's.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
But yeah, I think you don't need to be scared, just
get over it yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I gotta say, like I doesn't, I'm a human, and human
viking doesn't bite anyone.
Like it well.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I can argue about biting well, it's, it's like.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, they just don't like.
But how they react to to me ismake me feeling uncomfortable
yeah say so.
Yeah, maybe it's a depends onpersonal for me.
For me it's like I need to bequiet and doesn't like to have
trouble on, so that's why I'mquiet and I'm uh, you know, like
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change play, uh, change placeto stand, and stay because you
don't want to listen to thateven yeah, yeah, like that so
the thing is as well like.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Ladyboys don't just work in bars or clubs in
Thailand, they work everywhere.
7-11 we met one ladyboy thatworked at immigration yeah, I
know today I went to thepharmacy and it was a ladyboy
that served me.
I didn't go.
Oh fuck, I'm not buying thesedrugs, I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I know you enough that you probably these drugs.
I'm out of here.
Well, I know you enough thatyou probably want to buy more
drugs out of her.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
So it's like you know , just because you see them in a
bar or club it doesn't meanthat they will harass you for
something.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, for me.
I'm a lady who are farmer, so Ihave farmer, I'm working in a
farm.
So it do, I have farmer, I'mworking in the farm.
So it's like, if I'm doesn'tworking here, as like a
freelancer lady working in a bar, I go back home and work as a
farmer.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Work as a farmer and in.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Germany have holiday, I'm come to Patria and hang out
like other lady hang out in thenightclub so it doesn't know
who they are and how they do jobwhatever.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, don't assume, all of them are prostitutes.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, don't judge people from how they look like,
because they want to show uplike how they're pretty and yeah
, you just appreciate like okay,you look pretty, that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
But that's about like , oh, and you can speak with
them.
You can be polite and be nice,don't be afraid to talk with
them, but still nice, don't beafraid to talk with them, but
still don't act like, oh, it's alady boy, I have to get out of
here, because then you will notfind any place, even if you go
now, central festivals, forexample right, it's the biggest
mall here.
Well, the second biggest nowafter terminal.
Yeah, there's so many lady boysthat walking, like any regular
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stores there not only the beautyshop, by the way.
Everywhere, like adidas, thereis one lady boy I remember I
went, I want, I was searching tobuy another laptop, so I want,
I went to banana.
There was like one lady boythat knew more about computers
than me, which is kind ofsurprising, right, and she like
corrected me about two things soyeah, about, about sexual I can
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, I can call it sexual.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
It doesn't mean like they can do only one thing.
So we human and we can do manythings in a world like um it.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It doesn't mean, only man can boxing okay, wait, wait
, wait, don't talk about this.
This we keep for anotherepisode it's like, it's like I
want to make a special episodethat will speak about Pim boxing
career because she used to be aboxer.
I told you about that.
No, you haven't saw the.
She haven't showed you thevideo.
(28:31):
No, no okay, later I know aboutsomeone else that we know no,
no, she won a competition likeit's okay, we will keep it.
I will show you later okay shewill show you.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I don't have it on my phone, but yeah so yeah, I just
said, like something man can do, I can do, and something lady
can do I can do that same aslike lady, and how the song goes
I can do that yeah, it's likeit's normally, so I think about
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this, this opinion yeah, you'relike finish.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
You're like coke and pepsi.
Sorry, you're like coca-colaand Coca-Cola and Pepsi and
Pepsi.
You know like people alwaysargue which is better, like
there's one or the other.
You're both.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I think both.
Yeah, I can.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Copsi.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Copsi, I am Copsi, copsi Sprite.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
It's funny because in Israel, so the word for well,
here it's called ladyboy and inthe world it's called tranny or
trans or whatever.
Let's say, if I'm notpolitically correct, it's tranny
.
In Israel.
The word is such a funny wordbecause it came like the word in
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Israel for ladyboy, basicallyis coccinelle.
Now, coccinelle is a Frenchword that means a ladybug.
No, no, sorry, a beetle, not aladybug.
Now, the reason it became theword for that term is because in
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the 60s or the 70s was someFrench lady, French drag queen
that named Coxinelle, that cameto perform in Israel.
It was such a big shock thateveryone, if you want to say
someone is a trans or whatever,oh, coxinelle it's like how they
in no, it's just the name hereyou call lady boy in Israel,
coxinelle right, and you saybefore Coxie right.
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So this is the short.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, it's just the name here you call ladyboy in
Israel, coxinel Right and yousay before Coxie Right.
So this is the short.
Yeah, it's funny, that's likeyou know, like it's just good to
being okay.
I can say like before I'm Ihave, like I'm, I have like
thinking about I could havefriend of Theran or not like
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talking job like this.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Well, today's a happen, of course.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Why not?
You are a funny person, yeah.
And it's like yeah, wait, wait,wait.
Like a friend.
You are not our friend, you arejust using us.
No, no, no, sorry, sorry, I saywrong.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Like, we are friends yeah, and you know what it
doesn't?
It doesn't have any abouttravel curiosity.
We friend and we talk yeah, andwe talk open.
So about um scare a lady boy orwhatever, please get it out of
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your mind and finish this likeyeah, but as I said before, for
some of them is a religion thing.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, which is still funny, because going with
prostitutes no, going withprostitutes is also haram.
Right, it's also haram.
I mean the muslims.
So, oh, no, no, no, I'm notdoing a haram thing because I'm
not touching, well, ladyboys,but I still fuck 20 prostitutes
every day, and drink alcohol, bythe way, which is not allowed
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at your religion.
So what the fuck are we talkingabout?
Come on, just be respectful foreveryone.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So now it's just like we need to need to.
I know that we cannot changethem how they do in the
nightclub and doesn't wantladyboy get in like that, but we
haven't finished the story yet.
(32:29):
The story is getting worse theway is fly out somewhere.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
They open for you wait let me do the introduction
for that.
So first of all, fuck tunnel atWalking Street.
Let's start with that.
Fuck tunnel, and after tunnel,everyone I think it was Greg
mainly repeat saying the nameMistbar, mistclub, mistclub,
mistclub.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, Mistclub.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
So we went there and you went forward.
You went before me because Iwent with Pim and her friend to
look for the ID, the lost ID.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yeah, well, we were like we were almost after the
last experience.
We were almost prepared for.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, and you went.
Wait, we'll just explain whoyou walked with.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
So you went with the two ladies and the other four
ladyboys that we went outside,right, okay, two ladies and the
other four ladyboys that we wentoutside, right, okay so, but
greg went with some yeah, so welike split up and went in, as
like noah's ark okay yeah he'salways doing his own, yeah but
um, so yeah, and literally assoon as we walked up to security
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, he just said no, I I was likewhat?
He said they're ladyboys.
I said no, they're ladies.
They always say they're ladies.
I almost thought he'd be likewhat do you mean?
They're ladyboys?
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
The truth is coming.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
So I was like they're , yeah, they're ladies, and he,
he just wasn't yeah he wasn'tentertaining it at all and I
don't want to say I was gettingaggressive, but I was annoyed
because you, you, I kept.
I was sort of arguing with theguy and you tried to say then we
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showed up there is nothing todo.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
It's not worth it because, anyway, if they want to
let us inside, we don't want togo there anymore and just
getting into fight, yeah, let'ssay, even we beat him up, then
the police get involved, thenwhat?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I wasn't going to go down there, but I was just, yeah
, just trying to argue the point.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, but they did not get it, they just got the.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
What is the reason?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, so then we left there.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, and I've never been to Mist, so I don't know if
it's a good club or bad club.
But fuck, missed also.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
So missed new walking street.
I doesn't do anything.
I just like you know that timeI need to go to yeah, I remember
you always piss yourself I'msaying so softly like sorry, can
I get in toilet please?
I just need toilet.
I did like I show id cardbecause I'm yeah, I make sure
like I'm totally in I just needtoilet because that's a strange
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way to hear.
Yeah, and they say no, no, lady, but it's like huh, I just need
toilet, I really need toilet.
If you doesn't get, let me in.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I pee, pee on you.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I and say I'm a lady, while holding your cock and
kissing his leg I'm a lady.
Yeah, okay, well, if you reallyum, welcome me to, to to have
to drain inside.
So of course security is nothave only two, three front of
that inside.
So yeah, they put like followme, and then okay, just to make
sure.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, yeah, just make sure like I'm, and then okay.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Just to make sure yeah, just to make sure like I'm
in toilet and I get out, that'sit so, but they doesn't really
like, they don't care.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
They don't care, that's very nice to.
You went to the toilet?
No, she had to go behind thebars at the back.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, and pay money and then fucking that it's much
it's what I can do.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
You know, for that time so I, I don't know we had
that bad experience in two clubsalready at the same night.
Yeah, so again, fuck tunnel andfuck mist.
M-i-s-t for not letting us in.
M-i-s-t why, why?
Oh, it's with.
Why, yeah, it's why.
Before you check, you saym-y-s-T, y-y, oh, it's with Y,
yeah, it's Y.
Before you checked, you sayY-S-T, okay.
So fuck, yeah.
And then we went to anotherplace that I thought Was called
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Miss, but you tell me it'scalled Flex Flex.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I never been there before.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Have you been there before?
For me, I've been there beforeFor one time, and that is be
like second time I'm being so Iheard.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Normally they let ladyboys inside, but from the
back door.
No, no, I'm not joking, I knowit's funny I know, I know it
sounds funny.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
The back, the back door, is about um, I had like uh
with, I gotta say like Miss, or, yeah, miss and Republic.
That is about like ladyboy as agroup have to get in the back
door.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
That is what I know, but above, like no matter what
we're struggling from it was myfirst time over there, so it's
also I think it's only playedlike hip-hop, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
So I gotta say it's only played like hip-hop, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm going to say is it goodto call them like black people?
Yeah, yeah, okay.
So the flight is.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Just don't say any other word than that no, no, no
Sorry.
Is it good to call them the?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
N-word no, no, no, no , no.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
So that for like club it is just like a lot of black
people and yeah, and you knowthe owner is also.
You told me the owner is black,right, he's a black guy, the
manager, oh manager, so yeah,and about like dim style,
whatever.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I really like that, yeah, and for for me it's like
well, the way, is they open forlady boy?
No matter what you come withman or not, you come with a
friend.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
You have a life I told you the other night I saw
two lady boys that I know yeahand they came alone like yeah,
yeah so.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
So we all went in then.
But then we saw others.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, we saw another group that we know, yeah, yeah,
from other bars and stuff.
So we've been like, at the endwe've been like, I think, 10
people.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, like that.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Maybe more, even yeah , yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
But the way it's.
What they needed is the ID card.
That's it, to make sure you'retrending already.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
And it's a nice bar.
I didn't really like the wayit's built, because it's felt
weird.
So there is like the dancingflow, right, and then it's just
three or four rows of table andthen the VIP in the back.
Yeah, it's built kind of weird,in my opinion that is the.
The way is that they'rebuilding before of course I'm
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not saying they have to changethe building and say just the
setup is weird.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, I can see like they have to change the building
and say just the setup is weird.
I can see like they try to getmore table on the middle.
You see like a lot of peoplestanding in the middle and
actually, first we didn't getthe table.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
They just placed out on some like I don't know what.
It was like a big foam it's aspeaker, oh it was the speaker
itself itself.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
I thought this was fun.
No, no, no, it was fun, wasn'tit?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
yeah, there wasn't but very quickly we got the
table because someone left.
But the experience I had overthere was kind of weird and I
spoke about it before.
So I knew that in this place Iwant to buy the bottle of
whatever alcohol we choose and Isaid that before.
So I asked for the menu and atthe menu it said that the bottle
of vodka, with it's absolutevodka, will cost 2650.
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Yeah, and I asked would it comewith wixers?
Right?
He said yeah, of course, ofcourse, of course.
He said how many people you are?
He said give me for six people.
He said seven.
I said no, no, six enough,right, because it's about how
many glasses we get yeah andthen he went.
It took him like five minutes.
He came back with the bottle,poured the drink for everyone
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and then he came with the billand it's $3,550.
Oh yeah.
So I asked what's going on.
He said no, no, no, it's witheverything together.
I said with what I asked youbefore.
So, like the price, the bucketof ice, yeah, the bucket of ice,
the mixer, which were threeCoke, I think, and two soda we
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got, yeah, and the bottle ofvodka itself, yeah.
So I didn't argue because itwas late and I just wanted we us
have fun and let's be honest'sbe honest for foreigners 1000
baht is not that much like okay,we just paid that.
But I think and if someone fromthere from flex listening,
don't do that shit, come on, be,be, be okay with us, we are
(41:07):
coming to spend money, don'tfuck us on that small thing,
just tell ahead.
You can say if he would sayfrom the start listen, this is
the price for the battle.
If you want mixer, it's extra,no problem but he doesn't say
anything.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah no, I asked but he asked, but he doesn't it was
kind of weird okay, um.
So I want to know like that onedoesn't code more and you want
to say again one doesn't codemore.
Yeah about everything they saidand about yeah, if you need me
some more, is it coming or youhave to know?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
he paid more.
How much you paid for the extramixers?
You remember only 350.
Yeah, for for three coke likethat.
No, two coke, one pepsi, uh,two coke, one Sprite.
Sorry, yeah, yeah, somethinglike that.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, I feel like for one dozen.
It would be like you know, likemixer is just like as coming,
like unlimited yeah as many asyou need okay.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
That would be fair if they told me again from the
start.
Yeah, I don't know what's goingon.
They were even nice enough togive us some snacks.
You remember they gave us someI don't know what was it, but
like a snack also.
But just be honest, it's kindof basically a bill padding at
the end of the day, because thisis the price we settle on.
(42:32):
And I ask you, but the club wasokay, the VIP section.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
When it got like there was a free place to sit,
it was nice yeah, and when weget in, it's like you see, they,
they doesn't have any excuseabout like your lady boy,
whatever, and then like theyopen for everyone to get in and
have fun.
So you can see like there arefour people in there.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, but it wasn't very dancing-oriented.
I felt that not many peoplewere dancing.
At one point I saw somethinglike a square dancing that they
did there.
You saw that.
Move to the left, move to theright.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yeah, it's like in Jordan.
You can see like.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yeah, but most of the people weren't dancing.
It's not like the other clubsthat we are going to they like a
chat.
I see like people coming anddancing just a little and then
they're talking like yeah, andthe music is not that loud, you
can actually speak over thereyeah, yeah and yeah, it's like.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I see it like I doesn't know how, about some
nightclubs that doesn't open forladyboy or whatever, but about
yeah, I see from like for openfor everyone.
They are full and they makemoney and yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, but I would say another thing that few nights
ago, me, michelle and you alsowent to, for example, to tunnel,
and they let us everyone inWith ladyboys, with ladyboys,
with ladyboys, yeah yeah, theylet everyone in yeah, not a
problem.
So, I don't know what's goingon.
Maybe it's like that wasliterally like a week ago.
It was three days before.
(44:08):
We still had the battle fromthe same day.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, yeah, I understand why you would like to
go there.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
It's not the first time we went.
Michel always liked to go there.
I don't know why, but at theend of the night he wanted to
finish his night there.
I think it's because they haveMcDonald's in the phone, but I'm
not sure he's cheating.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Anyway, it's like I don't know how maybe they
organized from from.
People will like see, but whenthey see at the night people
will like see, but when they seeI will not measure and would be
like uh doesn't care, maybelike that.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
But no, no, no, it's not because of michelle I think
it's about like a lady boy no,you know what I tell you.
More than that.
Last time we went me, him andmichelle.
No lady boys, no, there wereone lady boy with us and then we
met another guy that I will notsay his name.
That came with two lady boysthat were working at Delirious,
which I will not name, and theycame separately.
(45:01):
Yeah, they came to sit with useventually, because we know each
other, but they came separately.
So it's not about Michelle,right?
So I don't know what to tellyou.
They just change the policy allthe time so is this?
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I see how it's about me.
I mean, like I change to go innightclub, open for ladyboy or
not, and try many, and now Iprefer to go somewhere open for
ladyboys.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
So Boho, as you said before, sun Club, there are not
many actually, not many actually, yeah, flex.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
But yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
I think Republic also .
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Republic not.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
No, Not no.
Greg told me.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
They had a sign like no ladyboys, really, they had a
sign, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
No ladyboys, no Jews.
No, I want to say something.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Well, you know that Thailand is 15 years behind.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, people somewhere will come for me, lady
boyboy, and will come foreveryone.
Know about separate or standardwhatever, but the best music,
in my opinion, is Boho stillBoho.
Because you can find good dancemusic.
I told you, I think, at theclub, that I haven't heard
(46:36):
anyone play faithless for somany years.
And then they play faithlesswith the new mixes it was nice.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Like I said, in Boho, it's very, very pretty.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Extremely pretty, but it's so small that it feels
like a bar more than a club.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, but if you want some players, it's like you
justU out and dancing, so Bohois the choice number one.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
I will not say his name for a reason of what I'm
going to say now, but we evensaw a guy over there that we
normally call him Chip Charlie,and even he goes to the Boho
because it's not that expensiveand it's a nice place to relax.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
you said, like if you just want to listen to music
and have some fun so is it good,because that night we finished,
that night we had a good nightwell, I want to hear your side
of the story, because I left youand Greg there, by the way, it
was funny.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Wait, wait, wait, you will hear it was funny.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, youwill hear.
It was funny because Greg saidgoodbye like six times and we
both said, okay, I'm going tosee you next year and then he
just showed up again.
What are you doing here?
Oh, no, no, no, I forgetWhatever.
So I left because I haven'tseen Pim, and then we met
outside Because apparently shewent to the toilet for half an
(47:59):
hour.
I don't know what you did overthere.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I had something to talk with the lady.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Okay, your business, not my business.
Yeah, and then I left you andGreg there.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
And then what happened?
Speaker 3 (48:11):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Okay, that was it, you, and.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Greg, what?
No, you did your move, yourusual move.
I've been known to put eyeheels on and nuts around Because
, like what you said earlier,like anything you can do, I can
do Better.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Oh, that's why I'm.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
I could leave the toilet early, more than I can
see him hide you on again thisis what I've proved by doing
that it's only recently thatI've started doing it, but I'm
pretty fucking good at it and Iwant to explain it's not like
he's walking around with highheels until they reach the club.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
You have normal shoes and then around with high heels
until they reach the club.
Right, you have normal shoesand then you take high heels
from someone.
It's not like normally.
Oh yeah, now I'm just a guywith high heels.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
That is good, because he doesn't have to buy a high
heel for you at all.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
No, we do, because we already looked in Lazada.
The other time we went toCindy's but the lady over there
I don't know her too much so Idon't want to give her money,
but I need you to order highheels for him.
43, 9 inch.
No, not 9 inch, 6 inch.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Sorry, you have 43.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
With 6 inch 43, 44.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
I have one long as similar, like 9 inch, like this
yeah, same same.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
They are just measuring their foot right now.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
I want to listen to her.
I can't see like we have samemy feet, same size with Scott.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
You need to check what also more similar in size.
I'm talking about the arms, I'mnot sure.
At the end it was a fun night.
It was fucked up.
(50:19):
And again, fuck Juju.
I know we haven't spoke thatday, but fuck Juju, fuck Daniel,
fuck Mist yeah, and yeah,everyone else.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
I want to again.
I was like if you doesn't likeit doesn't mean like for gender
or whatever.
If you doesn't like how doesn'tmean like for gender or
whatever.
If you doesn't like how theytreat people, that's the same
way you know.
Like, doesn't begin like bighuman and do like separate about
whatever, about how you wear on, about your outfit, about your
(50:52):
look like or about your gender.
Doesn't go that place.
Yeah, exactly, lookingsomewhere open and welcome for
it.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
And also, you will enjoy yourself more when you go
to a bar that accepts everyone,because, as you said, the most
crazy dancer you would see wouldbe the ladyboys, probably, and
they will be the most drunkpeople over there because they
are drinking like this right andfor will be the most drunk
people over there, because theyare drinking like this, right
and for, by the way, you saw atsun club that one of our friends
(51:23):
that work at the lilies justtook a bunch of 20 notes and
just start, yeah, like sending.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
She went on the stage and, like in the ski plus strip
club, she starts throwing themoney everywhere, because that
open, open for them to feelingdo everything yeah and that time
we have, we gotta have like a,then competition on in a flicker
, in effect, on me, I dance,show you, yeah, but you dance
(51:52):
first, and then I just went fuckthis, yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
and then you just start twerking around.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
I just went, nah I'll lose yeah, so I'm feeling like
that is a welcome for me and Ifeel like I can be myself.
I'm feeling like verycomfortable to do like how to
dance like that and with no one,just you and they are
(52:17):
appreciate.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
you like, oh, you dance good, good, good, yeah,
and also the security over theremust stay are extremely good
because, for example, I will notsay who, but some of one of our
friends was heavily making outwith some girl over there, right
, he basically was sitting onher and her boobs were outside.
I will not say who, okay.
(52:38):
But I'm pointing at Scott hereand then the security, because
she cannot be half naked in theclub.
He just came and asked verynicely, listen, please tell your
friend to stop, because it'snot nice.
He wasn't aggressive about it,he was very nice and didn't I
just told you like cut it out.
But for example, no, it wasfunny.
(52:59):
But for example, one time meand Greg went to Juju yeah, yeah
, and we just walking aroundlooking two people to interact
with you know, and we saw oneguy with like four or five
ladies, yeah, so we said helloto him.
Then the security came Justbecause we were talking go out,
(53:19):
why, what happened?
You are harassing him?
I said no, we are just talking.
We came to say hello and theguy was also shocked.
So he said nothing and we'rejust kicked out because we were
talking to someone yeah, theyare so aggressive over there,
yeah, so that that is like um,so that
(53:42):
that is like um, it for forfirst.
It's called like a firstimpression.
Yeah, it does my firstimpression with a flex club good
.
By the way, I have to say myfirst impression with tunnel was
also good, but for some reasonit's changed so like if I would
say, which is my favorite nightclub right now from the one that
I've been in and I'm not goingto nightclub that much sun.
(54:04):
I really like the setting overthere.
I think the prices are okay.
They are a bit steep but stillreasonable.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Yeah but anyway, it's like looking like you feel like
to go out.
But, if that night before yougo and they're like, okay, open
for a ladyboy, a ladyboy can getin, this doesn't have any
problem.
And then another night you feellike I want to go night out,
and then that night it's like no, no, no, no, no.
(54:31):
It's weird yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
It makes you feel more unwelcome, like even in the
beginning.
They say no, you understand.
Oh, okay, that nightclub islike that and she said before no
ladyboys allowed.
Okay, they're a problem, but atleast they are not making us
feel weird about it.
Speaker 3 (54:44):
Yeah but to keep flipping changing it it's like
you think that you're welcome,you go oh yeah, like, which is
even worse.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
This is why I really hope that, if what I heard that
is true, if what I heard will betrue, that Juju is going to
open next month for Ladyboys, Ihope no one go there.
I hope the Ladyboys will not gothere, because it's the worst
thing that they can do.
Right, better just say we findanother place Even now.
Right, better, just say we findanother place even now they let
(55:20):
us in.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Why?
Because it's the low season,because they are losing money.
Fuck that, don't go there.
Because it doesn't, doesn't.
I mean it's like, doesn't say,it's like you, you cannot doing
like, ask them to get in likethat way, because it's like when
you're yeah, when you'repopular, when, when you have,
how do you say that?
Like, everyone wants to get in,but you're like no, no, no, and
(55:43):
then in one day you lose people.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Yeah, when you are doing great, then you start like
say, okay, I'll try to dobetter by segregating people.
This is what is going on,basically.
And then when you are losingmoney, you say, oh, oh, the
people that I didn't want to letin now I need them because I
need them to draw customers orthey pay money by themselves and
yeah, I think probably ladyboydoesn't like to go that I hope
(56:05):
they will not go, but sadly Iknow they will because the
location is so good.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
Of juju sonia, yeah, but the way it's like.
So people like they are they,they can find new things, they
can find a place.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
So maybe it's like yeah, but in that area it's very
hard to find new place well,yeah, we need to stop we need to
talk it off, like not on radio,not on when we are recording,
because I told you who is goingto do something about it.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
Yeah, and one of our friends thinks of doing
something that will improve thearea.
Yeah, so I'm going to say wehave to.
You know, like finish yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
So, yeah, it is hard because everyone is silent.
And today she's the technician,the sound technician, and she
see the timers go to one hourand she, oh, we have to finish,
let's finish now get out of mymind.
There are a few things we haveto say before that.
All right.
So first of all, scott, amazingto have you again as always and
I hope we will have you againthe next not the next time, but
(57:23):
sometime in the future.
I know you are going to bangkoksoon, so, yeah, I want to hear
that experience when you comeback, because I'm not a bangkok
guy.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
You know me, so I want to know what is going on
over there because maybe I likethat, like maybe I want to
bangkok is going on over there,because maybe I want to Bangkok.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Yeah, you were to Bangkok.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
No, like I want to Bangkok.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
Bangkok.
I don't understand the joke.
Sorry, that's a joke, yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Do you want to Bangkok?
Okay, I understand.
Do you want to Bangkok?
Speaker 1 (57:54):
It's a ladyboy joke.
Yeah, yeah, I want to Bangkok,Okay Do you want a Bangkok.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
It's a ladyboy joke.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
Yeah, yeah, I want a Bangkok.
Okay, good for you.
So if you Bangkok in Bangkok,let me know about that.
Yeah, okay.
And also now it's a differentthing we started a Patreon, so
you can find us on Patreon andthe link is also in the show
notes if you're interested tohelp us All the money.
(58:21):
By the way, there are many goodthings you can get out of it.
Just go there and look what weoffer.
I think it's a good thing.
We are not offering bonusepisodes or stuff like that.
We are just giving you extrastuff that otherwise you
wouldn't get.
So if there's something youwant to check out, we love it.
You can find it at the shownotes and thank you for
(58:45):
listening.
Thank you for subscribing.
We did very good numbers in thepast months and we are very
happy about that, and thank youfor that.
Uh, thank you, pim.
Have anything you want to add?
yeah thank you, mike, for thisis bonus bonus episode yeah,
it's a bonus episode it's notsomething that we are going to
(59:06):
do every week, but when we havethe feeling and we have
something interesting to talkabout, for second bonus episode
yeah, and thank you for I cansay, like, for now, it's like
I'm very glad.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
And thank you for I can say, like, for now, it's
like I'm very glad to.
And thank you everyone.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
For listening.
Speaker 2 (59:23):
For listening and people around me and how it's
going on for my life.
Now it's like you know, I'mfeeling like get more happy.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
Of course we are doing something important, yeah,
and now.
Speaker 2 (59:38):
Now it's like I'm very thankful for subscribers
and listeners, because you guyslisten to our podcast and make
me feel like we like to know weare heard, even if we don't get
or make money out of it.
Just to know we are heard, it'ssometimes enough for us it's
(59:58):
like um anything else you wantto talk in, whatever, come in on
yeah, or send us email at mythai wife pod at gmailcom yeah,
we will enter and read it.
Yeah, yeah, thank you so much.
Thank you, bye, bye, bye.
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