August 8, 2025 • 62 mins
Welcome to a raw, unfiltered look into the real Pattaya that tourists rarely glimpse. Mike and Ellie welcome back fan-favorite guest Fam for a conversation that weaves through the complexities of Thailand's infamous nightlife, challenging stereotypes and revealing human stories behind the neon lights.
The trio dives into fascinating territory as they discuss the surprising sexual preferences among bar workers, where many women find themselves attracted to other women or "tomboys" after years in the industry. Fem shares candid insights about her own experiences, while the hosts recount the story of meeting a successful ladyboy entrepreneur who became a mother through surrogacy – a rare and touching narrative that reveals the diverse realities of LGBTQ+ lives in Thailand.
Business realities take center stage as the group discusses the closure of the memorably-named "Wet Pussy" bar, consolidating with their other venue "Nympho" during low season. This behind-the-scenes look at bar management reveals why so many foreigners fail when attempting to open venues in Pattaya, despite the common fantasy of easy success in Thailand's entertainment industry.
The conversation takes a personal turn when Ellie discusses her dating preferences, leading to an impromptu matchmaking session where listeners are invited to apply as potential suitors. Food culture becomes another highlight, with the hosts sharing authentic restaurant recommendations while dispelling myths about food safety in Thailand – including Mike's unfortunate encounters with food poisoning and why drinking tap water remains taboo.
Whether you're planning a trip to Thailand or simply fascinated by its unique cultural landscape, this episode offers valuable insights from those who live and work in one of Asia's most misunderstood destinations. The honest perspectives shared here go far beyond tourist clichés, revealing the human connections, business challenges, and cultural nuances that make Pattaya such a compelling place.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Ellie.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
That's Ellie, and we have.
Emra.
Yeah, Femi's back.
You really liked her last time.
Although we get much morecomments about Ellie, People
like you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Because of my volume.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Because of your volume.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Because of my volume.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I think so, but no, I think because you are bubbly
and you are fun and you aretalkative and because most of
the people that watch us gettired of ladyboys all the time,
they want to see some okay realladies, so we got a lot of
compliments.
How was your week?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
oh, maybe been fine drunk every day as like, as it's
very unexpected upload season.
Fine Drunk every day, as it'svery unexpected, of the low
season.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
It's expected of you, not about the season you choose
to be drunk.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't choose to be drunk.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You just wake up drunk.
One day.
You wake up and, oh, I'm drunkalready.
No, one day I wake up and thenwake up, please, I know you were
drunk because the other day Isent you the description and
everything we did for the lastepisode.
Oh fuck, I cannot read rightnow, I'm drunk.
We talk tomorrow.
But I do read, I know you readit's okay, I'm just saying that
(01:16):
you are drunk and I know you andFilm actually became friends.
Yes, going out together, havingfun together.
I hear sometimes you have aslumber party.
She comes to sleep at yourhouse.
Yeah, that's good.
Good, now you see you have morefriends.
You always say you don't havefriends.
Look how many friends you havenow At least two.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But sadly my friend also left, the friend that comes
to visit me for like three days.
And then that's the person whodrags Fem out to like party.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You go with Fem out every day.
So you mean, you don't like Fem, she likes Fem, I like her too,
but I'm busy working so Icannot go with Fem.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Good that she go with my friend.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
How was with your friend?
Really it was okay, you had fun, went out every day yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
She go out every day.
Yeah, she hang out, she go outevery day.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
She's just hunting for the girls.
But like, yeah, I know like she.
I don't know if we can talkabout it, but if not we can
delete later.
So she have a boyfriend.
He's very nice guy, he'scanadian, I met him.
Very nice guy, very smart also,but she into ladies.
Like yes, I'm not saying she'sa lesbian, but maybe she's.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, she is.
She's more like a bisexual.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, so she's with him and we went together, all us
as a group, with them to one oh, we can say the name Paradise
Agogo, which is actually a verynice agogo in El Que Metro.
Yeah, it's my favorite too,yeah, I know the owner there.
Rimko is a nice guy.
He's one of the owners.
(02:45):
Of course it's a good place andwe went there and she was like
I want to fuck this lady.
I want to fuck this lady.
She was very aggressive.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
She didn't get aggressive.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Talking aggressive, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yes, the way she talked to the lady, it sounded
very aggressive because she justgoes straight forward To the
point.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, but even with me she don't know me that well
and she just grabs my hand, mike, mike, mike.
I said what I want to fuck her.
I said, okay, you can Up to you, you have money, you can do
whatever you want, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And also she's very like Cool, she's very cool.
She's open with her boyfriendtoo like she choose a lady.
She choose a lady for herboyfriend too oh, so if you have
a lady, then she can go withanother but they not do like as
a group together.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
No, okay, I think sometimes it's complicating
things.
You know if you have a partnerand even if you are in open
relationship, but you seesomeone else having sex with
your partner.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, it can.
Be no, they do it separately.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Okay, but you know it's not the first time I hear
about this.
I see many times that ladiesthat walk in the bar.
I don't know why, but some ofthem get sick of men.
Maybe men treat them not goodand more of them not more, but
many of them turn to like ladies.
Yeah, it's very common.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I know I feel like lately I have met a lot of
people the lady that they like,they like lady, but they do date
men before.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
They date men.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And also some of them also in the same time.
They're just like yeah, I justdate both, but I just try to
figure out who I like more.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I get it, but I'm talking about something a bit
different.
So ladies that work in the bar,so basically their job is to
drink with men and if the menlike them he would pay for their
time and maybe they can dosomething extra in the room,
whatever.
But many of them not many, butlet's say at least 20-30% are
into ladies.
(04:44):
I'm not saying again they arelesbians or something, but I I
want to know.
You think it's maybe because,like the men that come here to
patria treat them not well thatthing?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I'm not sure because, like many of my lady also like
have dating.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Uh, it's not, not like women, but more like tomboy
yeah, I'm talking about yeah,yeah I don't want to to confuse
our audience with all those ah,okay, okay, okay, so, uh, but
many of them is like datingbefore they come to stanford in
the bar, though, okay yeah, youknow you, actually you know that
in mark bar, in sober bar, theyused to have a tomboy there
(05:22):
that she was walking as a staffso and she have big boobs, so
all the men like her, but shedon't like the men.
She go with them, she get money, whatever, but she's into
ladies, like hardcore, intoladies.
You know, tomboy hardcore,everything.
So it's interesting and, by theway, many time, not many time I
(05:43):
went there only three timesalready when I went to the
tomboy club.
I know many of the girls therelike not the tomboys, I mean the
girls that come play with thetomboys.
Oh, some of them walk in thisbar and this bar and this bar.
I recognize many and like Iwant to ask them but I feel like
(06:03):
maybe they will not be 100%honest.
I think so Like if they whatI'm basically interested that if
they liked ladies before, even,or the men that the foreigners
that come here make them don'tlike men as much Like this is
what I'm curious about like menas much like this is what I'm
(06:27):
curious about.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know about the second part because, uh,
many of the lady that I knowthat they did women right.
They actually did the womanwhen it was younger.
They the woman first, beforelater they opened up to the man
okay because many people like Ithink will be only one way,
which is yeah, this lady gothurt by the man, then by the
woman.
To like the woman, when theywere younger, they did woman
(06:50):
first and then they opened up tothe man later.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I understand.
By the way, you cannot speaktoo much.
Speak a bit less.
We are worried that theaudience will not focus on us
and focus on you, so you have tospeak a little bit less.
What do you think as a ladyboyreally and I give focus on you,
so you have to speak a littlebit less what do you think as a
lady boy really like?
And I give you my question.
So if we compare this to ladyboys, I know lady boys that most
(07:12):
of them do it for money, butnot all.
They actually still like womenalso.
So they are lady boys, but theydo, they find themselves
attracted and sometimes they arehavingboys, but they do.
They find themselves attractedand sometimes they are having
sex with women also.
What do you think Like?
I know it's not as common, butwhat do I think?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Actually, I don't know, because I ever fuck the
pussy also.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Say again sorry, fuck the pussy, you fuck pussy.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Fuck the pussy I think I never say people come
from only for make money okay,but for for you it's not a
problem going with the lady youenjoy, it also okay but I don't
like lady, but I can can.
So you are not attracted to her,but you can do it for the money
(08:08):
, right, but I'm talking notonly for the money.
This is what's interesting.
So I know a couple I will notsay their name.
He's an older guy and she's aCambodian ladyboy.
Yeah, cambodian, she's around30 years old, something like
(08:28):
that, and she's she don't likemen, she only like when they are
together.
Okay, but she always like, tryto get women to fuck.
You know she's really into intopussy, sorry, but like, and I
never saw something like thatbefore.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It's the first time I see this that's yeah, and I
never met the lady boy.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That okay with the lady no, she's like, oh, she's
the lady, she like, oh, sheexcited and she wants to grab
her and touch her and likeeverything.
But they are also they areswingers.
You know, know what it means.
So they are doing couple dates,oh, okay.
So sometimes they meet anothercouple and they go together All
(09:10):
of them.
Yeah, it's not my style, butmany people do open for this.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I mean like when I was younger in Bangkok.
It's like when I'm young, I'llbe crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You're still young.
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
so when I was younger .
I actually have a threesomebefore too okay, I think, yeah,
I don't mind to talk, but I telleverybody, I'm very open about
it.
I have the threesome me, theguy and the little boy oh, yeah,
you told me about that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, you told me about that.
Yeah, you told me about that.
Yeah, and it was okay for you,like you enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
For me it was okay Because, first off, I don't like
pussy you don't like.
I don't want to see it, even onmy own Myself, you know I don't
want to see it so.
But she don't have, so she havething.
Then for me it's okay, I candefinitely go with it Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So as long as she has a coke, it's okay for you.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yes, Okay, but then she doesn't.
Pattaya is a good city for youyeah, but then she doesn't.
Have a good me, though.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Because she doesn't want.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
She doesn't like yes.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I need to make sure you know that couple the other
couple.
Really she's hot.
Really.
Yeah, she's hot, I will connectyou later I'm on.
By the way, I heard that nowyou change about the bar yes you
want to talk about it?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
yeah, no problem, so now.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
So now the last time we talked a lot about the wet
pussy.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I know.
So, jim, we have to close upthe wet pussy you close the wet
pussy because the info is drynow, so we have to close up the
wet pussy.
It's because the nympho is drynow, so no wet anymore yeah, so.
So at the moment, the nympho isalready fixing everything, and
then we don't have enough thelady to like split for two bars.
Yeah, and it's low season, it'shard to get even now we have
(11:01):
like around like almost almostlike 17 girls, but then we have
like around like almost almostlike 17 girls, but then we still
like have to get a customer.
You know okay but if it's goingto be like maybe five or four.
Sometimes it's not enough forsize six yeah, it's not good for
the size six, so we just likedecide okay, let's just open
only one bar at the moment sonow wet piece is, pussy is
closed and opening for again yesokay, and it's right next door,
(11:24):
so people cannot miss it yeahokay, and the roof.
Thing sealed sealed it's stillno more wet okay no more.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
No more rain also.
Okay, that's good, and youthink, like I know, you prefer
Wet Bootsy because you put a lotof effort in order to make sure
this place is opening andfunctioning.
Okay, but, like for you, it'salso okay to work in Nympho.
(11:54):
You don't really mind.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I don't really mind because, like I work for my
friend, I don't really work forthe bar you know, Whenever my
friend tell me to go, I go.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So if she tell you, now you go to this bar, you go.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Just know it's for her and you want to help yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
If she tell me like go to Bangkok, I go Bangkok, go
to Rayong, I go Rayong.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
She have bar in Bangkok also.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
No, she don't now not anymore.
Now she want to focus on it tothe bar okay, but before she had
something yes, she have abusiness in Rayong oh, I
understand I think she have herbusiness in like 90.
Maybe next time I can bring herin for you to interview her by
the way, I want to thank you forlast time.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So after we did the show last time, you took us to
an amazing restaurant.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,it's called Narnia.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Narnia.
So it's a food I would sayseafood restaurant mostly.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Hmm, Actually, like when someone asked me what type
of restaurant is it?
I cannot explain, because theysell everything.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You're right, but after that, after that, I
googled it because I want toshow someone, and it's a Narnia
seafood restaurant.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
No, it's Narnia steak .
I can show you.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
For me, it's a seafood restaurant.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Really yeah, wow, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Okay, but anyway it was really good, not that
expensive.
A bit far, I must admit it's abit far.
So it's in the middle side ofnaklua, which is if we drive
from here in a motorbike.
It's at least 20 minutes.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Very delicious and not that expensive I I mean if,
compared to like the quality, Ithink it's not that expensive no
, the quality is okay, but theoysters were amazing, even you.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You saw the canadian guy, even him, like he don't
like oyster and he was like, ohmy god, it's so good and he also
even anything that he nevertried.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
He just tried it oh you think it's first time no,
it's not his first time but,like.
I mean like like literally thai, thai food he just start to.
He start to eat.
When he meet my friend beforehe, she say at the first start
they just like he always eatingonly western food until she give
(14:13):
him one som tam, and thenthat's it.
It broke his taste som tamchange everyone.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Som tam change me, change everyone.
I told you the story about thefrog, what my wife did to me, my
ex-wife the fall.
So one time we go to arestaurant and she asked me what
you want to eat, I said I don'tknow, I'm not that hungry, so I
order for you.
Like she angry, so you canorder whatever you want.
She ordered and okay, I get myfood, I start eating and she
(14:39):
looking at me like that, likeshe want to see what, what I'm
doing, and I'm keep eating, keepeating.
She say okay.
I say yeah, and then she sayyou know, you eat frog.
I said oh, okay, very tasty.
She shocked she never see forreal.
Like don't mind.
But I'm, you know, I'm not, I'mnot mind what I eat.
(15:00):
If it's tasty it's okay.
I I was sure it was.
It wasn't chicken, because thebone was different.
But the taste is almost the same, so you eat it before.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I do.
I do eat like deep fried frogthe soup.
I don't know if it's called afrog.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's a toad basically .
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's not called frog.
I think it's similar with frog,but you eat it only in the
laying egg season.
Okay.
Yeah, it's soup with frog withegg inside.
It looks really disgusting.
I not eat the egg, but I eat.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
They deep fry the leg , you know, and they cut it.
It was like pieces, like that.
It was kind of meat but it wasgood.
But you know, for me like it waslike pieces, like that, it was
kind of yeah, but it was good.
But you know, for me like itwas a big shock and I explained
why not about the fall.
So in my country, the ladies inmy country are very extra
feminine so most of them noteven eat meat.
(15:58):
You know, they eat only salad.
No one.
You never see them drivemotorbike seafood.
No way you see a lady in mycountry eat seafood, not only
because of the religion, becauselet's say fuck the religion,
because oh, it's look like a bag, I cannot eat this.
You know they only eat saladlittle bit like this.
And then you come here you seethe most beautiful ladies and
(16:20):
they fucking eating grasshoppersall the time, driving motorbike
, drunk everywhere.
Three people on the motorbike.
You know, first time was shockfor me, but I think it's
exciting yeah welcome tothailand.
I know, but it's so differentfrom you know what I tell you.
Even something more funnysometimes, when I do meet people
(16:42):
from my country, I I don't sayI'm from there, I just sit, I
listen what they talk, you know,because I'm not very look like
I come from my country, so noone know I'm from there, and I
just sit and listen and theyspeak very bad about the ladies,
like the israeli ladies speakvery bad about the thai ladies.
Oh, you see how she eat thisand she always drunk and she
(17:04):
always this.
But yeah, you say this, so whyyour men come here all the time?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
you know what I mean I know, I know, like even on the
way driving here, I see, I seeone, one lady like, looking at
me very judgy like foreignerlady.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yes, why I think?
Just because I think she's fromlike indian yeah okay I will
come with her boyfriend, and shesaw you just sitting on the
motorbike and she looked at melike yeah, she looked at me like
until I.
I kind of feel energy, so Ilook at the beautiful lady and
I'm sure maybe she got a bitjealous, you know, and you wear
(17:45):
short skirt.
Maybe she was scared that herhusband will see something.
You know she did this to herhusband.
You can never know you cannever know.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Thank you, though it's kind of like compliment.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
It is a compliment.
You are a beautiful lady, youare you.
You not hear it every day inyour bar?
Oh, in the bar everyone's drunk.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You need to hear it from sober people.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, okay.
So how many times you went outthis week, Like I mean not to
your bar this week?
Yeah, oh, okay, Like I knowyou're getting drunk in your
bath.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It's zero.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
then you don't go out to walk in streets.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Because last time when we go out together, it's
like last week, not this week,not this week, yeah, so that
means this week is zero.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I thought like you're partying every day.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Really.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
No, I'm already partying at my work Every Monday
.
Normally I'm like dead.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
But like you yesterday, monday normally,
normally I'm like dead but like,like you, yesterday is like not
really many people come to sit,so okay, yesterday you mean in
the bar.
Yeah, yesterday is like peoplecome really late so I don't
drink much okay, yesterdayactually was very quiet all over
the place, like also wasextremely quiet and I I know why
, like some of the reasonbecause normally we go to
(19:09):
ladyboy bars, because this isour friend, friend, and
yesterday there was one big,very big birthday for, for lily
from oh, yes, you know her.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, I see, I see her on the event you meet her
before um, I'm not sure I mightmeet her in the Anthony birthday
party.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
In the restaurant.
Okay, I don't know herpersonally.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
She's very nice, she's like the co-owner of the
place.
Well, it's named after her,very beautiful.
And yesterday was her party.
So me and the guys, so Scottand Michelle and Tino, we all
thought, okay, we will come late, it will not be busy, right?
We came then 1 am.
(19:54):
You cannot sit Full outside,full inside, everyone drunk,
they bought.
You don't know her, but someonethat named Jasmine Angel Show.
So she's a very famous ladyboyfrom before.
She used to do a lot of pornand now she's doing these
cabaret shows.
It was like one hour of cabaretshow with three ladyboys, one
(20:18):
gay man and one lady, yeah, andit was like they just started
one this show.
So think how crazy was theparty.
Wow.
And then when we went out, wewent out to three bars everyone
was empty.
They say no one come today.
No one come today, no one cometoday.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
No, it's like not even much people walking on the
soysick, like yesterday too.
I was like how is thishappening?
Yeah, normally Sunday is notthat busy.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Sunday is the worst day busy, but it's not this day.
You know like normally friendswill come visit and stuff, but
everyone just disappears yeah,but I think soy sticks still get
more action than most of theplaces in Bangladesh.
So when you say not much, youstill.
I'm sure your bars still makemoney.
I went to three bars yesterday.
One of them make 200 baht allday.
(21:07):
No, not that bad 200 baht, I'mnot joking.
All day they sell two beers,that's it, and the ladies sit
outside they buy their ownsangsom battle.
It was a lady bar and justsitting said no one comes, so we
buy our own battle.
You know 200 baht.
(21:27):
You open the bar for what likethis is not good enough reason.
You're losing a lot of moneyand I asked her like it was like
this every day.
She said no, yesterday we makezero.
Yeah, you know many people thinkmany people think that they
will come here, they open, openbar, they will make money.
(21:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I know Everyone believe me.
When I meet the new peoplethey're always like oh soon you
will see me as the boss of thebar.
It's like, haha sure, thatreaction I get.
Like haha sure.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
No manager of the bar is no problem, Easy to find
manager, Not the manager.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I'm talking about the owner.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, but it's so hard to open bars, as we talked
before about concepts, and thenyou need to find ladies and
everyone think, oh, it's easy tofind ladies.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, I see my friend go crazy, even like two, three
months before we opening it, youknow, like during the renovate.
Yeah, you know the document,the paper and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, we know some.
Actually it's interesting.
So sometimes we go out of SoiBokau and we're just walking
around and we found ourselvesone day in Triton yeah, I know
it's still Soi Bokau, but likein the inner bars in Triton, and
there is one bar there named Iwill not say the name.
I know why I will not say thename.
(22:46):
I know why I will not say thename.
I will explain soon.
And so it's a mixed bar Fourladies, two ladyboys and the
ladyboys there.
They not work salary, they workcontract.
So every 10 days 10,000 bahtthis is how they work.
So it's very expensive to havethem around.
So for one month they getalmost almost 30 000 because
(23:09):
they have two days off, butalmost 30 000, but they don't
get drinks.
No drink commission oh so butthat's too good yeah, but their
drink is 200.
So all the ladies that worksalary their drink is 150 and
they get 50 baht commission.
They need to sell drink for 200and they get nothing.
(23:31):
It's still good.
They are still making bettermoney, right, but it's
interesting to see.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, I've never seen this strategy of paying.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I think it's a low season strategy.
They say, okay, I want to gohome, you want me to stay?
Make sure I stay giving themoney.
I don't want to worry aboutselling drinks or not.
I need my 30k every month.
It's a low season, so everyoneis struggling to make money.
And why the reason?
I didn't want to say the nameof the bar?
(24:05):
So one of the lady boys there wehad a chat, all of us together,
and she's very smart.
So she's 30 years old, shealready makes two houses, she
has two cars already and shesaves the money.
She's not going with customers.
She says I never go withcustomers.
If someone wants to take me toa date, okay, we can go to a
(24:28):
date.
I don't go for money.
So I asked where the money from.
Oh, before, I have bigrestaurant, very big restaurant.
She saw.
She showed me picture, huge,huge restaurant she had before.
I will not say where she frombecause I don't want people
maybe know her, but hugerestaurant.
And the interesting thing thatshe told me.
She told me I have secrets.
I say what secret do you have?
(24:50):
She have a baby.
So four months, four years ago,she want to have a baby.
So she take her sperm to thehospital and she know one lady
so she pay for her and you know,and now she have baby Like I
never.
How many lady boys you knowthat have baby Zero, zero.
You know how rare it is.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
And she's so motherly , like you speak with her and
you just see she just showed methe picture of her son she
starts crying, like she's reallylike a mother.
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, notbecause she's a ladyboy.
I'm saying like how she's intoit, the ladyboy.
I'm saying like how she's intoit and like every three weeks
she goes back home to meet himfor one day.
She always, when he hassomething in well, his phone,
(25:33):
but something important aboutbirthday, she goes back to him.
You know, it's so rare to seeit.
And I said, wow, it's amazing.
She said, yeah, why don't allladyboys not do it?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I don't know, because the son also comes from her
sperm, so it's kind of like herson.
Yeah, but all ladyboys can dothat.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
She has sperm, she can take her sperm.
Well, she's still young, but Imean make a baby if she wants
right, so it's not a problem.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, I don't really see myself like a ladyboy or
even gay, that they want to havea baby if they don't have a
partner.
You know what I mean.
Normally they will be likemarried first and then like
thought about it.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, but marriage in the LGBTQ community is
complicated.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Not because how hard it is to get married, but many
of them and I know it because Ihave many people not many, but
some people in my family andsome people in my friends that
really like into that communityback home, like they are deep in
that community and everyonefucking with everyone, even when
(26:38):
they have a relationship, thereare like a lot of them cheating
on each other, or sometimesthey just bring someone from the
outside.
So only, like the famous gaysin israel have babies.
Most of them, like I know, havefew couples, of course, but
like the famous, if they arefamous, of course they want to
show oh, we have a baby, we dothis, we do this, but it's not
(27:00):
very common yeah, it's not verycommon would you make a baby in
the future?
why not?
No, no.
You don't want a baby, you wantjust to take care of yourself,
really.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Okay, and you?
Never you don't want a baby.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
No, never think about it.
Never thought about it, neverin my mind.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Maybe it will start to cross your mind later.
You know, I had a friend that Iknow all her life.
Almost we know each other sinceshe's 11.
She's older than me one year,so I was 10, she was 11.
We grew up together.
She always say no, no baby, nobaby, you know.
And she's like she's almost atomboy.
(27:41):
She don't like lady, but likehow she act, she almost.
She's very like tough andeverything.
And when she got to be 33, herbody start to tell her you need
baby, you need baby, you needbaby.
Then I say hey, what's going on, say I'm having a baby.
I say oh, what happened?
Where is your like strongattitude that I don't need a
baby?
I don't know.
(28:01):
I don't want to die alone oh,that's, so sad yeah, like she
have a.
She have a husband.
But she say like she thinkabout the future, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
So I don't know, maybe it happened to you one day
I know I don't think so, Idon't want to, I don't want to
like something, something thattell me very strongly that I
should not have a baby.
That I look at, I look atmyself.
What.
What if my baby be like me?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Like you how.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
What a headache.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Like you?
How?
What do you mean Like aboutyour personality?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Kind of, and also, like you know, I did not really
talk to my family In a year.
We talked like one time, oneyear one time two years, one
time.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You are independent, you are taking care of yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Too independent.
No Like if I'm attached tosomething that much and it goes
away.
You cannot know if it's dieddead or like.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, but I think it's also about how you create.
Every relationship that we havein our life is different.
Like, let's say, myrelationship with my father even
is different from therelationship with my mother even
.
They still stay together, right, but I treat my father
different than I treat my mother.
(29:17):
So your relationship with yourfamily is one thing, but with
your child it might be like, wow, you will be inseparable.
You know, you can never know.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I don't know, maybe.
I will let you know if somedayI thought you see it's become
from no to a maybe.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So there is a thought in your mind about it.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Okay, now it's record .
So one day, I promise one day,if I thought about having a baby
, I will tell you the fullpresent okay.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You know you will have many.
This baby will have all thisfamily of the people that listen
to us.
He will be the baby, thepodcast baby.
We put him here right.
He not have to talk much likefemme, just have microphone when
he cry.
That's it.
It will be the podcast baby.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
First let me find a husband, Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I don't even have a boyfriend.
You have many husbands no, oh,I wish.
You wish, you can find easyMaybe seven Monday, tuesday,
wednesday, thursday.
Easy, for you Easy.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
No, it's not.
The thing is like you findYou're not dating, you find no,
why not?
I don't see anyone come to meyet.
Come on, I mean Be serious,you're a beautiful lady.
No one come to you and say no,just regular, regular.
(30:31):
Hey, ellie, I like you like canwe go out sometime?
Uh, just start to have now buta little bit like sketchy for me
.
I don't know this person he'solder no young, one year younger
okay, so it's okay.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
It's not like a dirty old farang that want to touch
your ass all the time Becauseshe's young, interesting.
Thai.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Oh, foreigner.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I never did Thai.
Maybe you should, maybe if Ifind someone that really pops in
my eyes.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, but you told us on the last episode that
actually you're more attractedto foreigners.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
More like only foreigners.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Only foreigners.
Yeah, like in your mind, theylook better.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, they stand out more for me.
I don't know, I never, I not.
I don't see much of thai peoplethat I look and then like, oh
my god, this one, it look good.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Like this guy look handsome not me in general asian
guys asian guy, koreansometimes you like the feminine
korean style, like the bts orand all that, or you like the
more manly ones.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Oh, I like more the manly ones.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, I used to meet one guy, the Korean guy, but
he's not really Korean Becausehe visits Korea like two times.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
So he's American-Korean.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, he's from America.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
But he's like taller than me and a big buff guy.
Oh, like Michelle, like verybuffed and everything, not her,
like michelle like, likemichelle, 10 person to push
together really very big, yeah,bigger than you, yeah that's
interesting yeah, you say yeah,okay, but the thing is like when
(32:06):
, when I invite him to partywith my friend group, I have my
friend that like only korean andshe just oh, and she upset
about him, like she's like, Ireally like him.
Oh, my god, give him to meplease.
Like.
Yes, you can take him if helike you and you like you share
no, because I never like go abed or anything with him, you
know oh just a friend.
(32:28):
Yeah, so it's just like firsttime meeting him too.
Okay, you know.
So it's like friend groupgathering.
So it's like yeah, you likeeach other go together.
But then he turned my frienddown very hard.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Really yeah, she wasn't his type.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
No, he said, I like skin, like your skin, I don't
like the white like those peopleoh, she was whiter yes, so this
is something actually we talkedabout.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
So many people that come from the western countries.
They prefer the 10 girls likethe darker skin and the asians
they like the white skin yeah,but he asian, but he lived in.
Yeah, he lived in america, soall his life and you have to
remember, the Americans are verylike right now into the Latina
(33:12):
and the black culture.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I'm very into Latina too no, the culture I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
So it's Latina or Latinos.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Latina girls okay no guy, I don't see much for me.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
For me, I'm sorry, it's okay but because they grew
up like in that kind of culturethat this is like cool to be
like that so everyone tried tobe 10 and you know.
So when they come here theyreally like the gold skin of the
thais.
You know the golden skin.
None of you are golden like you, are a bit yellow and you're
(33:48):
white I don't know what yourcolor yeah, oh, she has taken
very heartbroken that time okay,but you know what we can do.
We can do like a game show, wecan like we are looking at it
and we are looking for a husbandfor ellie, and like people can
apply and send their email andpictures.
(34:09):
And then you can like chooseokay, this, this, this.
And we can like even have themonline here talking with you
while we are shooting they can't, they're like they also can
like to put on the comment.
I will go read okay better sendemail with the picture no cock,
no cock, no dick pics no onlypicture of your face and maybe a
little bit like this, the body.
(34:29):
Where's my camera?
Which?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
one.
This is your camera.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, no, it's fine, can say with the arrangement
okay yeah, but then I get it andI have to open it every time
it's fine, so you know which oneis better oh, you want, I
choose, you have one, so you canhelp me choose with with style
it'sbetter okay okay, me and fem, we
sit together, we check all thecocks and we decide which cock,
because you have one, so you canhelp me choose which style is
better?
Okay, okay, me and Femme, wesit together, we check all the
cocks and we decide which cockis better for you.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yes, yes, so you're professional.
You help me out okay, okay, noproblem.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
It's like the other day.
Yesterday I was sitting withFemme and like Femme Michelle,
and then she showed me somepicture in her phone.
I see a cock.
I said why are you showing methis Like?
For what reason?
But it's very common here,especially the ladyboys.
They are crazy.
They always show each othereverything.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Oh, not just the ladyboy, believe me.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I've never seen a lady show me her pussy.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But I don't show the pussy to the thing.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Like, hey, you want to see my pussy?
I never see that.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I have someone like that.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Really In your bar that show her pussy all the time
?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
No, no, no, no no.
My friend, my friend.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Why.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
My friend like Ellie.
Look why is like do you think Ishould go laser?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Like it's a medical examination, but she know that I
hate to see pussy.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I don't even watch porn, you know.
So she do that just to.
I don't know.
But I said like, are youserious?
She said yeah, I'm serious.
I'm about to book like to dolaser changing color thing.
Is love changing color?
Yeah, you can change the colorcan you make it green?
Not like that.
That one, you have to take two,it's gonna paint so what?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So what do you mean?
Change color?
I'm sorry, no, no.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Make an example, because Thai right is kind of
dark on that area.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
So they can do laser to drop the melanin color.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Oh, like Michael Jackson, like changing the color
.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Not that much, but it's dropped a little bit and
also it's cheap.
It's hurt?
Oh, I think so.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
So they are burning the let's be, I will be making
medical terms now so they areburning the vagina area in order
to, to rip it, to make itlighter.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, to make it lighter.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Okay, I think they should like a laser.
Yeah, but laser still burns.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yes, they say it's going to feel like your elastic
band on your okay on your skinbut, you think about elastic
band on your?
Yeah, well we are gonna be theother day.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I will see, okay.
So there is one um lady boy barthat we go a lot.
It's 69 and I have one of mybest friend, jean.
She will hate that I'm talkingabout her right now.
She will hate it.
And you say her name and I willstill say her name and she's
sometimes she's one of my bestfriends, but sometimes she can
be a bitch.
So we're just sitting there, Ido nothing, like I talk with my
(37:20):
friends or whatever, and shecome and she just on my balls
and I like this, I On my ballsand I'm like this.
I said, jean, why you do this?
And she's just laughing.
I said, jean, don't do thisplease.
Okay, okay, I'm not doing thisagain.
30 minutes later, again I'mlike this.
And then I say, jean, you wantI do it back to you?
She said you can do, look, andthen she just slapped herself on
(37:43):
the balls.
She not even like move.
She not even like move, nothing.
So we are more sensitive inthat area.
Like, even you do like that,I'm not joking, it hurt Very
badly, I know Very badly.
You agree no For you, itdoesn't hurt.
No, really, someone do this toyou.
Nothing.
To your balls, nothing.
To your balls you have to train, I have to change my balls, you
(38:08):
have to train, train my balls.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yes, you have to train oh, not for me.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
You know, I have one one, one of my best friends,
back home, so she's a lady andshe used to do like she was a
mistress.
You know what?
mistress mean you know what itmean.
Like she like to men pay hermoney for they, she slap them
and spit on them and pee pee onthem.
They pay a lot of money forthis.
So she used to do this and thenshe became something else that
(38:37):
it's called financial control.
So she just take their moneyand do nothing and the men like
it like oh, you want me toanswer your message?
No problem, 100 euro.
Oh, she has to teach me yeah, Iwill show you a picture later of
her.
By the way, christina, she'scoming soon, maybe we are
talking, so come over and thisis what she does and she's
(39:00):
making a lot of money out of it.
But there was a time that herwork was and you can find her
videos online she was justkicking men in the balls.
Men pay her money, so they come, they wear the underwear, or
sometimes nothing, and she juststand there and she she learned
muay thai before and she justkick them in the balls as hard
as she can and the men love ityou think they just have a
(39:23):
technique to like not be, notmake, not make the man like too
injured she I don't know, Idon't know.
She told me she do it as strongas she can and she told me, the
more strong she do it, they getharder from it.
She like they are in.
I guess it's like kind of afetish.
They are really into it, butonly the balls thing.
So sometimes she take high heeland she like step on the balls.
(39:47):
You know, and I don't get it,like I would, never I would pay
someone not to do it to me.
You know, let's say jean goingto do this here jean, 100 baht,
please don't do it to me.
You know, I don't get it.
Why people pay it?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
in order to yeah, like, yeah, some people just
like it, I guess.
I've seen the picture beforeand it's like for me it's just
gimmick group, it's too hardcore.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
It is.
But some, like I, understandwhy people get turned on.
Because people get turned on bysomething that is taboo,
Something that is a bit wrong orout of society, so it makes
them more excited.
For example, you know there isa club here in pataya that only
do this stuff, so it's calledthe the castle.
You know the castle, so it'splaced in the size am, so in the
(40:37):
third road and it's look like acastle the castle you know what
is a castle.
It's like a fort, like a bigbuilding, like you know where
the king and the queen stay.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I know the castle, but I mean I never.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Oh, you don't know the place, okay.
And then I think you pay 1,000baht to go inside, something
like that, and then you havelady and men there and you pay
their money.
Basically, they tie you andthen they have whip to whip you
and they kick you in the ballsand spit on you or whatever we
have.
I know two guys that go thereregularly.
(41:13):
Regularly they spend a lot ofmoney.
They're like one nightsometimes they spend 10,000,
15,000.
Yeah, but you have to pay justto come inside.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
What about the host?
Like they are Thai or they areThai, so they have.
Oh, what about the host?
Like they are Thai or they areThai?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
They have, so they have.
Oh listen, we can find someonefor you.
Do you know my friend Greg?
He was in the podcast also.
He's really into this stuff.
If you want, he's a goodlooking.
Well, he's a good looking guy.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Okay, if you want, I will go check it out.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, he's in Malaysia now.
He's coming back soon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's coming.
She knows Greg.
You know him.
Why do you talk too much today?
Can you let us speak a littlebit, or you want?
Speaker 2 (41:59):
to take over the podcast.
Maybe because you keep it alittle bit.
That's why she gets tired.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Oh, we told her before your job is to come here
and look pretty Right.
We told her before your job isto come here and look pretty
right and you're doing your jobwell.
Let me check check what we haveabout enough time, he will let
us know.
So tell me about soy 6.
(42:25):
Why should I go there?
You know I hate it.
You tried to make me come therea few times.
I'm not talking about your bar.
Give me one benefit I get inSoy6 that I don't get in
SoyBokal.
Not me.
Come on, I'm there, you arethere.
of course, this is the onlybenefit.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I really don't know.
I just Sometimes, when the baris, I feel kind of like, yeah,
it's not my bar, but it's alsomy work you know yeah, but it
would be more better, likefriend, to come with this, like
just sit I understand that.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
But I mean, let's say , you don't know me, okay, and
you, you meet me um wherever inbang and you tell me we talk
about Soy 6 and I tell you, oh,I don't like, I hear about this,
I never go.
How would you convince me to go?
What's so special about?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
that First thing.
You're wrong step to say I hearabout it, I never go.
That's the thing that's goingto make you that we want to make
you to go.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
So make me go.
Yes, make me go.
What is so good about it?
Because I've been there a fewtimes.
I've been there even 10 yearsago, when it was much different
and you heard the stories, howdifferent it was.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Well, if you've already been there, like it
would be hard to convince youbecause, like it's not as good
as before too, and it's manythings.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
But even before it was Sorry, but before I will not
say it was shit because I knowmany people like it, but even
before I didn't enjoy it.
It was too crowded.
Again, the ladies were toogrubby.
It's very hard to walk from oneside to the street and to the
other without someone tryingforcefully to drag you into the
bar.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
You know that.
I know my lady do that and it'smuch more expensive, much more
no, I cannot convince you,except like come see me please
of course I'm not talkingpersonally, but I I don't get
the appeal to be honest, like Ialso like, cannot really like if
(44:29):
it was the friend that alreadyknow what is soy sick is like
come before and stuff like that.
I will never ask them okay tothem to come because, like, if I
see them around, that meansthey like it, but if they say
they will come before and theysay they don't like it, that
means they don't like it,because I also don't see them
around.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, but you, you even told me that even before
you walked you like to go soysix.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Why?
Because, okay, I remember lastepisode we talked about the bar
that I like yeah but in size 6,first thing is convenient, like
I gotta go out drinking anywayand I bought.
I start getting bored ofwalking street yeah, walking
street I never go walking streetalone you know, normally I go
(45:17):
with friends, because if nofriends, but also when you go
walking street alone, you know,normally I go with friends.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Because if no friend.
But also when you go walkingstreet, you don't go to the bars
, you go to the clubs.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
I know, but then I start to get bored of it.
So and then, and then.
Another owner he also have apartnership.
Okay, partnership, yeah, apartnership Partnership in the
soy six, right before he openedown bar, right okay yeah, so
it's like okay, first it's afriend bar, my friend bar, yeah,
(45:46):
and second, um, I already beenthere with them before so you
know I know some lady there, andthen I have the lady that take
care, take care of me very goodand always talk to me.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
So it's more about personal collection.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yes, and you don't find yourself like enjoying more
in the soy bocadillo area.
Sometimes I did not find a bar.
I did not find a bar.
That is like, actually I gothere for the person.
Yeah, you know, because when Ifeel tired from work, I go there
.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
To meet your friends or whatever.
Yeah, I just meet that ladythat I check everything.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I know a man you go meet there, sometimes not that
many.
It's because the men that gothere for me, no, I'm talking
about mark from suburb thatsometimes he's okay.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Oh, you just talked about that one.
Yeah, just come on it's late,late later.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I know him like from from the friend group I know,
but I mean he's your friend.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Sometimes you just go visit him, or this.
This is what I mean.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah, but I mean, but I just know him now.
I mean back then when I startedto go to SoySafe.
You know, I go there for justone lady and then when I go to
another bar like another area, Itry I go to another area.
I don't find a lady that like,definitely like this you know
Okay.
Because she don't.
(47:00):
She don't like herself.
They don't push me to buy drink, but I always dump all the
drink on her.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
I know I will not say how much you spent last time,
but I was shocked when I heardwhat last time where after that
we did the podcast, we went to arestaurant.
You insisted to pay you, notlet me pay, okay.
Then the same night, I know howmuch you spent and I was.
I know and I was shocked.
(47:23):
You're fucking crazy.
Like it's not, you don't needto spend that much money.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
I don't know how much I spent that night, because I
just spent all my money I know Ithink it was all your money.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
It was crazy.
Like you need to to thinkbefore you spend that much like
budget yourself come on, I try,when I already like hook up with
fun.
I just like I know also becauseyour friend came and you
haven't seen her for a long time, so you you want to show her
good time yeah, and I see herboyfriend first time.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
I don't want to like to let him pay everything you
know what?
Speaker 1 (47:57):
this very considerate of you, because most of the
ladies will do the opposite.
So they say, oh, we have a finein the group, we let him pay
everything.
Yeah, like the other days, itwas funny.
So I went again to 69 and whenthe bar was closed I went home
and few of the lady boys theresend me message that they are
going eating like my friends.
They say like we want to go,mukata, we share.
(48:19):
I say yeah, no problem, and wego there.
We've been like 12 people andall my friends gone and I still
stay because I had to go toimmigration in the morning so I
don't want to sleep and now havegroup of nine only one of them
is my friend and all the ninetry to put the bill on me and my
(48:40):
friend just took the bill.
She said no, we share.
And the bill wasn't that much,it was 2,500.
But she said no, we share.
We all say share.
Why you put on him?
Because in Farang.
And all of them like shy.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
That's very nice of her yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
No, she's my friend.
I know I'm not worried, butit's still like most of not most
, but many of the ladies and theladyboys, when they see farming
they say, oh, you have to payyeah, and sometimes it doesn't
even have to be a farm, you know, because like, yeah, it has a
man in the group.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
But then it's like I feel like it's not fair because
like sometimes it's like 12girls with one man and then, the
men have to like care of allthe bills for everyone,
Especially in Bangkok.
Everyone has their own grass,you know.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
And it's much more expensive.
Yes, much more expensive, Ithink.
Mugata, same Mugata in Bangkokwill cost like 6,000, same wheat
.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Can be yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, because if you want good beef, it's gonna start
with like 1000 yeah 999, butstill yeah, but they take for
weight.
So each one of us had the plateof almost three kilos oh yeah,
especially like if the othercalf or three kilo, 12 people,
(49:57):
2500, nothing with the beersyeah, we, we go eat together
with how many we like 5 peopleyeah 5 yeah, 5 people, but then
the thing is like we don'treally eat that much too.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
I eat a lot, no.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
I mean, like normally , if it's nomukata, we're gonna
eat like 2 times more.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course,and they're probably gonna be 3
times yeah normally if it'snomukata, we're gonna eat like
two times more yeah yeah, yeah,of course, and they're probably
gonna be three times, yeah, butit was.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
I enjoyed, like I never been to that place but I
will go back there.
I don't remember the name so Inot say to the listeners, but
it's like maybe you know it's inthe back side of soy bonkot, so
you know where is the soy whereall the gentlemen buzz the
love-in soy.
You know, love-in soy.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
You know love-in, soy Love-in soy.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
You know, love-in soy when they have like a short
time full of in.
So you know this soy In theother soy next to it.
There is one big mukata there.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
So yeah, it's good yeah very good, very good.
You see, she's hungry.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
How are you hungry?
You ate at BB restaurant like afew hours ago.
It's okay.
What did you eat in BB?
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Pork fried rice pork fried rice.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Pork fried rice okay oh, I'm hungry.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
I just wake up as a couple fuck you, fuck you.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Wait, wait, wait, fuck you.
After this, we are going to eatand I'm paying, and if you even
touch your wallet, okay, you'renot doing this podcast anymore.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
I can't even hold my wallet this Friday.
I can switch my wallet and giveit to you.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
We talked about this before.
No, we said that today we takeyou eat somewhere nice.
Okay, okay, no problem.
Okay, okay, come, I'll let youand by the way, the BB that we
said before is a restaurant ofmy friend Derek.
He's from America, Like he's anAsian guy, handsome guy kind of
(52:05):
, and he's there all the time.
I think he's married.
I'm not sure I saw him with ababy, but I don't like to ask
too much personal questions.
And it's really the 7-Eleven inSoi Bon Cote.
In the second 7-Eleven, If youdrive nice restaurant small,
they open really early.
They take all the drunk peoplein, you know.
So they open like five or sixand four they are already closed
(52:29):
.
They want only the drunk people.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
Only like to jump out from the crab and go straight
there to eat before sleep.
Yeah, get very tired.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
It's a small restaurant.
It's very small, but the foodis good.
And today even, by the way,when you know, I go to meet my
friends, so some of my friendscall me today also, from 69,
they were near my room.
They say, hey, we're here, weare looking for change room for
one of our friends, just come bewith us.
So we walk around, we look fewrooms, the rooms that are kind
(53:00):
of cheap, between four thousandto six thousand, but good rooms.
We went upstairs, we look atthe rooms and then they just,
okay, we know good restaurant.
I said, okay, they drag me tobb restaurant also and they're
like, hey, guy, how you doing?
And I said, oh, I'm okay.
And they look shocked how youknow him.
I said I know everyone.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Come on, this is my job, I need to know everyone
yeah, and in Soi Bongkot theyhave one of the barbecue
restaurant that I really lovewhich one.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Kral Rishis where is that?
Grill Rishis sorry yeah, whichpart of Soi Bonkot.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I think Soi Bonkot 3, maybe.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
So at the beginning, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
So on the Thirse Road , right Thirse Road, it has like
a top building.
I think it's called LKsomething.
Have many Condo right, okay,and then in the front of the Soi
?
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Oh, you mean LK Empress, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah, in the oh you mean LK, lk, empress yeah, and
the front of the President's.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
It's half, and after that you turn right to Soi.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Benkot, it's like a horse crap.
I never go in.
It's like a go-go crap on thefront the third road.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
Yes, no, so this is the tomboy.
Gap the tomboy is it.
Yeah, this is the tomboy club.
I don't you, I just see it.
But I don't know you rememberbefore I was talking about the
tomb.
Yeah, yeah.
Right next to the hotel, thisis the tomboy club.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
No, not right next to the hotel, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
I heard that at explaining and after that you
mean over there have a closedmukata.
Yeah, it's closed.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
It looks like a stone , but they make cement look like
a stone.
But they make like cement looklike yeah, I've been there, yeah
, I either really, yeah, Ieither.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
Last time we, we go to do go-kart with pim and the
guys after this, pim say, oh,I'm hungry, let's go eat.
And we all eat, but only scottsit like this what is this?
I don't know how can I eat thisand they have to cook for him.
About the mukata I know, youknow I'm, I'm basically almost
died, but he's like I don't knowwhat to do and they have to
cook for him.
About the mukata I know, youknow I'm, I'm basically almost
died, but he's like I don't knowwhat to do and they have to
(55:02):
explain everything.
And he like I want chicken butthey don't have chicken.
Yeah, they have everything, butno chicken.
Yeah, so it was funny.
So we want to go there also lasttime.
But then we changed.
But the reason I do like totalk about restaurants here
because many people come hereand they are afraid about the
(55:23):
food.
You know, first even I mean thepeople that come thailand first
time I remember when I camefirst time I didn't know how to
order, I didn't know what totake.
You know, everything is soright in th, especially on the
carts or the street, and it'sdifferent.
Yeah, and you have even thenoodle soup.
(55:43):
You have so many kinds, theyellow sign, the white sign, and
it's different, it's not thesame.
So one of them is sweet, one ofthem is sour, so you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
And I think the benefit of restaurants that
normally they have menus andnormally they have menus and
normally they have menus inEnglish.
And some of the restaurantshere are so shit, especially the
ones in the main road, right,you know what I mean Are not
good.
But when you find a good smallrestaurant, I always want to
(56:21):
recommend it, you know, becauseI want people to feel
comfortable here with the food.
I don't want people like I willnot say other countries, but
many people that go outside oftheir own country and come to
southeast asia and the otherareas here they get they scared
to get food poisoning,especially in one main country
which, which I will not name,and here it's not like that,
(56:41):
like the food is very clean.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
I think I don't know like.
Well, I never get food poisonedin my life, even if you're like
in the side of the road, youknow.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
The side of the road is better.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, but the food tastes better too.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
You never get food poisoning?
Speaker 2 (56:57):
really no, I don't think so, Except like eat too
much and then I have to pick itup because I eat too much.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
And when you eat too much spicy, yeah, that also
gives me a little bit hurt.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
But not like food poisoning Okay.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
I get food poisoning, I think, two times in Thailand,
but it was definitely my fault.
Fault, like first time I getsome dish that I normally know.
I ordered um, I think it was afried rice and I taste first and
something tastes not, not, notright, but I think, oh, it's a
new restaurant, I never eat ithere.
(57:34):
I finish all food poisoningfive days.
It was just bad.
They give me bad food.
Maybe the rice was too old, Idon't know, but the food wasn't
good.
I don't need more, normally yeahand the second time it was like
I was very drunk and I waswalking near my street and I saw
a group of thai guys and theycalling me hey, hey, hey, come
(57:55):
drink with us.
I said, okay, come drink withthem.
And then they have like a freshchop oh, fresh chopped meat it
costs like two yeah with a lotof chili raw, raw, raw meat I
like it, but no, no, I like it.
I eat before also yeah, but youhave to be careful though so
their food, their meat wasn'tfresh and I got five days food
(58:19):
poisoning again.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
That's one that's specifically manual.
Even me, I have to be careful,because if they chop it fresh,
you know, and then it has to bevery fresh.
Speaker 1 (58:31):
Yeah, but they eat it also.
So I thought, okay, it's okayand it tasted okay, because you
know, when it's so spicy, youdon't know if it's.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Stink or not yeah or if it's like yeah so it was okay
.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
I was eating it with them, we were all eating, and
the next time I was like good, Ididn't go to the hospital, but
it was close to that.
So when I get it, I just triesto drink a lot of water, a lot,
a lot, a lot.
Take tablets, lot, take tablets.
You know parts of the mold allthe time and wait for it to go.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Yeah, so.
I never have.
I never have that experience.
I think I have like kind oflike iron stomach.
I'm always very proud of it.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
My ex-wife had the same.
She always say I never get it,never get it, never get it.
The moment she moved to mycountry, everything is different
, so the air is different, thewater is different, everything.
And she got food poisoning inmy country and also she got like
(59:33):
she cannot shit for like twoweeks.
You know what I mean.
It was she.
She cannot like she try andit's very hurt.
And I think also, even if youthink you have iron stomach,
when you will go out and staylong time in different country,
it will take your I think forsure like.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
I'm not again that's really because I cannot say that
.
But I'm not again that's reallybecause I cannot say that.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
But I'm not again that like this thing okay I feel
like it can happen, because I'mjust comfortable in how long
will it take me to convince youlet's say, I bring you to my
home, back home?
How long it will take me toconvince you to drink water from
the tap?
not long, I think because hereyou cannot do that.
(01:00:23):
I don't know if the listenersknow, but here you never drink
from the tap.
You buy waters or you drinkwhat the hotel give.
You do not ever drink from thetap because the water are not
clean.
Right, it's good for shower.
You can even brush your teeth.
Better use this.
You don't want the water goinside your mouth.
But in my country, no problem,everyone drink from the top.
(01:00:45):
You can find the holes in thestreet and just if you you
thirsty like this, no problem.
Okay, guys, so we get a notethat we have to close this
episode.
See you next week.
Thank you everyone.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Thank you, ellie thank you to you too thank you,
fam.
Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Please next time don't talk too much um.
You have any words to ourlisteners, something you want to
say?
Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
oh, thanks, so I will come and join you guys again on
the next week, for sure and Iwill waiting for the apply for
my future husband?
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
yeah, we were serious like send us emails, pictures,
occupation, how much money youmake, everything.
She want to know all.
I'm joking.
But, yeah, send us.
And, of course, again, guys,please, please, please, if you
can like, subscribe, it's very,very important.
It doesn't cost you anything.
And if you do want to spendmoney, go check our patreon.
(01:01:39):
The reason and I say it manytimes, the reason we can do it
in a studio, which is veryexpensive, by the way.
Yeah, it's very expensive, butwe like it.
It's because of you, guys.
So, please, if you can go tothe patreon, check it out.
It really helps.
Thank you, guys, and see younext time.
Bye.
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Ellie.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
That's Ellie, and we have.
Emra.
Yeah, Femi's back.
You really liked her last time.
Although we get much morecomments about Ellie, People
like you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Because of my volume.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Because of your volume.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Because of my volume.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I think so, but no, I think because you are bubbly
and you are fun and you aretalkative and because most of
the people that watch us gettired of ladyboys all the time,
they want to see some okay realladies, so we got a lot of
compliments.
How was your week?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
oh, maybe been fine drunk every day as like, as it's
very unexpected upload season.
Fine Drunk every day, as it'svery unexpected, of the low
season.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
It's expected of you, not about the season you choose
to be drunk.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't choose to be drunk.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You just wake up drunk.
One day.
You wake up and, oh, I'm drunkalready.
No, one day I wake up and thenwake up, please, I know you were
drunk because the other day Isent you the description and
everything we did for the lastepisode.
Oh fuck, I cannot read rightnow, I'm drunk.
We talk tomorrow.
But I do read, I know you readit's okay, I'm just saying that
(01:16):
you are drunk and I know you andFilm actually became friends.
Yes, going out together, havingfun together.
I hear sometimes you have aslumber party.
She comes to sleep at yourhouse.
Yeah, that's good.
Good, now you see you have morefriends.
You always say you don't havefriends.
Look how many friends you havenow At least two.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But sadly my friend also left, the friend that comes
to visit me for like three days.
And then that's the person whodrags Fem out to like party.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You go with Fem out every day.
So you mean, you don't like Fem, she likes Fem, I like her too,
but I'm busy working so Icannot go with Fem.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Good that she go with my friend.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
How was with your friend?
Really it was okay, you had fun, went out every day yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
She go out every day.
Yeah, she hang out, she go outevery day.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
She's just hunting for the girls.
But like, yeah, I know like she.
I don't know if we can talkabout it, but if not we can
delete later.
So she have a boyfriend.
He's very nice guy, he'scanadian, I met him.
Very nice guy, very smart also,but she into ladies.
Like yes, I'm not saying she'sa lesbian, but maybe she's.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, she is.
She's more like a bisexual.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, so she's with him and we went together, all us
as a group, with them to one oh, we can say the name Paradise
Agogo, which is actually a verynice agogo in El Que Metro.
Yeah, it's my favorite too,yeah, I know the owner there.
Rimko is a nice guy.
He's one of the owners.
(02:45):
Of course it's a good place andwe went there and she was like
I want to fuck this lady.
I want to fuck this lady.
She was very aggressive.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
She didn't get aggressive.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Talking aggressive, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yes, the way she talked to the lady, it sounded
very aggressive because she justgoes straight forward To the
point.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, but even with me she don't know me that well
and she just grabs my hand, mike, mike, mike.
I said what I want to fuck her.
I said, okay, you can Up to you, you have money, you can do
whatever you want, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And also she's very like Cool, she's very cool.
She's open with her boyfriendtoo like she choose a lady.
She choose a lady for herboyfriend too oh, so if you have
a lady, then she can go withanother but they not do like as
a group together.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
No, okay, I think sometimes it's complicating
things.
You know if you have a partnerand even if you are in open
relationship, but you seesomeone else having sex with
your partner.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, it can.
Be no, they do it separately.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Okay, but you know it's not the first time I hear
about this.
I see many times that ladiesthat walk in the bar.
I don't know why, but some ofthem get sick of men.
Maybe men treat them not goodand more of them not more, but
many of them turn to like ladies.
Yeah, it's very common.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I know I feel like lately I have met a lot of
people the lady that they like,they like lady, but they do date
men before.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
They date men.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And also some of them also in the same time.
They're just like yeah, I justdate both, but I just try to
figure out who I like more.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I get it, but I'm talking about something a bit
different.
So ladies that work in the bar,so basically their job is to
drink with men and if the menlike them he would pay for their
time and maybe they can dosomething extra in the room,
whatever.
But many of them not many, butlet's say at least 20-30% are
into ladies.
(04:44):
I'm not saying again they arelesbians or something, but I I
want to know.
You think it's maybe because,like the men that come here to
patria treat them not well thatthing?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I'm not sure because, like many of my lady also like
have dating.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Uh, it's not, not like women, but more like tomboy
yeah, I'm talking about yeah,yeah I don't want to to confuse
our audience with all those ah,okay, okay, okay, so, uh, but
many of them is like datingbefore they come to stanford in
the bar, though, okay yeah, youknow you, actually you know that
in mark bar, in sober bar, theyused to have a tomboy there
(05:22):
that she was walking as a staffso and she have big boobs, so
all the men like her, but shedon't like the men.
She go with them, she get money, whatever, but she's into
ladies, like hardcore, intoladies.
You know, tomboy hardcore,everything.
So it's interesting and, by theway, many time, not many time I
(05:43):
went there only three timesalready when I went to the
tomboy club.
I know many of the girls therelike not the tomboys, I mean the
girls that come play with thetomboys.
Oh, some of them walk in thisbar and this bar and this bar.
I recognize many and like Iwant to ask them but I feel like
(06:03):
maybe they will not be 100%honest.
I think so Like if they whatI'm basically interested that if
they liked ladies before, even,or the men that the foreigners
that come here make them don'tlike men as much Like this is
what I'm curious about like menas much like this is what I'm
(06:27):
curious about.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know about the second part because, uh,
many of the lady that I knowthat they did women right.
They actually did the womanwhen it was younger.
They the woman first, beforelater they opened up to the man
okay because many people like Ithink will be only one way,
which is yeah, this lady gothurt by the man, then by the
woman.
To like the woman, when theywere younger, they did woman
(06:50):
first and then they opened up tothe man later.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I understand.
By the way, you cannot speaktoo much.
Speak a bit less.
We are worried that theaudience will not focus on us
and focus on you, so you have tospeak a little bit less.
What do you think as a ladyboyreally and I give focus on you,
so you have to speak a littlebit less what do you think as a
lady boy really like?
And I give you my question.
So if we compare this to ladyboys, I know lady boys that most
(07:12):
of them do it for money, butnot all.
They actually still like womenalso.
So they are lady boys, but theydo, they find themselves
attracted and sometimes they arehavingboys, but they do.
They find themselves attractedand sometimes they are having
sex with women also.
What do you think Like?
I know it's not as common, butwhat do I think?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Actually, I don't know, because I ever fuck the
pussy also.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Say again sorry, fuck the pussy, you fuck pussy.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Fuck the pussy I think I never say people come
from only for make money okay,but for for you it's not a
problem going with the lady youenjoy, it also okay but I don't
like lady, but I can can.
So you are not attracted to her,but you can do it for the money
(08:08):
, right, but I'm talking notonly for the money.
This is what's interesting.
So I know a couple I will notsay their name.
He's an older guy and she's aCambodian ladyboy.
Yeah, cambodian, she's around30 years old, something like
(08:28):
that, and she's she don't likemen, she only like when they are
together.
Okay, but she always like, tryto get women to fuck.
You know she's really into intopussy, sorry, but like, and I
never saw something like thatbefore.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It's the first time I see this that's yeah, and I
never met the lady boy.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That okay with the lady no, she's like, oh, she's
the lady, she like, oh, sheexcited and she wants to grab
her and touch her and likeeverything.
But they are also they areswingers.
You know, know what it means.
So they are doing couple dates,oh, okay.
So sometimes they meet anothercouple and they go together All
(09:10):
of them.
Yeah, it's not my style, butmany people do open for this.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I mean like when I was younger in Bangkok.
It's like when I'm young, I'llbe crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You're still young.
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
so when I was younger .
I actually have a threesomebefore too okay, I think, yeah,
I don't mind to talk, but I telleverybody, I'm very open about
it.
I have the threesome me, theguy and the little boy oh, yeah,
you told me about that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, you told me about that.
Yeah, you told me about that.
Yeah, and it was okay for you,like you enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
For me it was okay Because, first off, I don't like
pussy you don't like.
I don't want to see it, even onmy own Myself, you know I don't
want to see it so.
But she don't have, so she havething.
Then for me it's okay, I candefinitely go with it Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So as long as she has a coke, it's okay for you.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yes, Okay, but then she doesn't.
Pattaya is a good city for youyeah, but then she doesn't.
Have a good me, though.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Because she doesn't want.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
She doesn't like yes.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I need to make sure you know that couple the other
couple.
Really she's hot.
Really.
Yeah, she's hot, I will connectyou later I'm on.
By the way, I heard that nowyou change about the bar yes you
want to talk about it?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
yeah, no problem, so now.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
So now the last time we talked a lot about the wet
pussy.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I know.
So, jim, we have to close upthe wet pussy you close the wet
pussy because the info is drynow, so we have to close up the
wet pussy.
It's because the nympho is drynow, so no wet anymore yeah, so.
So at the moment, the nympho isalready fixing everything, and
then we don't have enough thelady to like split for two bars.
Yeah, and it's low season, it'shard to get even now we have
(11:01):
like around like almost almostlike 17 girls, but then we have
like around like almost almostlike 17 girls, but then we still
like have to get a customer.
You know okay but if it's goingto be like maybe five or four.
Sometimes it's not enough forsize six yeah, it's not good for
the size six, so we just likedecide okay, let's just open
only one bar at the moment sonow wet piece is, pussy is
closed and opening for again yesokay, and it's right next door,
(11:24):
so people cannot miss it yeahokay, and the roof.
Thing sealed sealed it's stillno more wet okay no more.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
No more rain also.
Okay, that's good, and youthink, like I know, you prefer
Wet Bootsy because you put a lotof effort in order to make sure
this place is opening andfunctioning.
Okay, but, like for you, it'salso okay to work in Nympho.
(11:54):
You don't really mind.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I don't really mind because, like I work for my
friend, I don't really work forthe bar you know, Whenever my
friend tell me to go, I go.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So if she tell you, now you go to this bar, you go.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Just know it's for her and you want to help yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
If she tell me like go to Bangkok, I go Bangkok, go
to Rayong, I go Rayong.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
She have bar in Bangkok also.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
No, she don't now not anymore.
Now she want to focus on it tothe bar okay, but before she had
something yes, she have abusiness in Rayong oh, I
understand I think she have herbusiness in like 90.
Maybe next time I can bring herin for you to interview her by
the way, I want to thank you forlast time.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So after we did the show last time, you took us to
an amazing restaurant.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,it's called Narnia.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Narnia.
So it's a food I would sayseafood restaurant mostly.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Hmm, Actually, like when someone asked me what type
of restaurant is it?
I cannot explain, because theysell everything.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You're right, but after that, after that, I
googled it because I want toshow someone, and it's a Narnia
seafood restaurant.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
No, it's Narnia steak .
I can show you.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
For me, it's a seafood restaurant.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Really yeah, wow, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Okay, but anyway it was really good, not that
expensive.
A bit far, I must admit it's abit far.
So it's in the middle side ofnaklua, which is if we drive
from here in a motorbike.
It's at least 20 minutes.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Very delicious and not that expensive I I mean if,
compared to like the quality, Ithink it's not that expensive no
, the quality is okay, but theoysters were amazing, even you.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You saw the canadian guy, even him, like he don't
like oyster and he was like, ohmy god, it's so good and he also
even anything that he nevertried.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
He just tried it oh you think it's first time no,
it's not his first time but,like.
I mean like like literally thai, thai food he just start to.
He start to eat.
When he meet my friend beforehe, she say at the first start
they just like he always eatingonly western food until she give
(14:13):
him one som tam, and thenthat's it.
It broke his taste som tamchange everyone.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Som tam change me, change everyone.
I told you the story about thefrog, what my wife did to me, my
ex-wife the fall.
So one time we go to arestaurant and she asked me what
you want to eat, I said I don'tknow, I'm not that hungry, so I
order for you.
Like she angry, so you canorder whatever you want.
She ordered and okay, I get myfood, I start eating and she
(14:39):
looking at me like that, likeshe want to see what, what I'm
doing, and I'm keep eating, keepeating.
She say okay.
I say yeah, and then she sayyou know, you eat frog.
I said oh, okay, very tasty.
She shocked she never see forreal.
Like don't mind.
But I'm, you know, I'm not, I'mnot mind what I eat.
(15:00):
If it's tasty it's okay.
I I was sure it was.
It wasn't chicken, because thebone was different.
But the taste is almost the same, so you eat it before.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I do.
I do eat like deep fried frogthe soup.
I don't know if it's called afrog.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's a toad basically .
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's not called frog.
I think it's similar with frog,but you eat it only in the
laying egg season.
Okay.
Yeah, it's soup with frog withegg inside.
It looks really disgusting.
I not eat the egg, but I eat.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
They deep fry the leg , you know, and they cut it.
It was like pieces, like that.
It was kind of meat but it wasgood.
But you know, for me like it waslike pieces, like that, it was
kind of yeah, but it was good.
But you know, for me like itwas a big shock and I explained
why not about the fall.
So in my country, the ladies inmy country are very extra
feminine so most of them noteven eat meat.
(15:58):
You know, they eat only salad.
No one.
You never see them drivemotorbike seafood.
No way you see a lady in mycountry eat seafood, not only
because of the religion, becauselet's say fuck the religion,
because oh, it's look like a bag, I cannot eat this.
You know they only eat saladlittle bit like this.
And then you come here you seethe most beautiful ladies and
(16:20):
they fucking eating grasshoppersall the time, driving motorbike
, drunk everywhere.
Three people on the motorbike.
You know, first time was shockfor me, but I think it's
exciting yeah welcome tothailand.
I know, but it's so differentfrom you know what I tell you.
Even something more funnysometimes, when I do meet people
(16:42):
from my country, I I don't sayI'm from there, I just sit, I
listen what they talk, you know,because I'm not very look like
I come from my country, so noone know I'm from there, and I
just sit and listen and theyspeak very bad about the ladies,
like the israeli ladies speakvery bad about the thai ladies.
Oh, you see how she eat thisand she always drunk and she
(17:04):
always this.
But yeah, you say this, so whyyour men come here all the time?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
you know what I mean I know, I know, like even on the
way driving here, I see, I seeone, one lady like, looking at
me very judgy like foreignerlady.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yes, why I think?
Just because I think she's fromlike indian yeah okay I will
come with her boyfriend, and shesaw you just sitting on the
motorbike and she looked at melike yeah, she looked at me like
until I.
I kind of feel energy, so Ilook at the beautiful lady and
I'm sure maybe she got a bitjealous, you know, and you wear
(17:45):
short skirt.
Maybe she was scared that herhusband will see something.
You know she did this to herhusband.
You can never know you cannever know.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Thank you, though it's kind of like compliment.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
It is a compliment.
You are a beautiful lady, youare you.
You not hear it every day inyour bar?
Oh, in the bar everyone's drunk.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You need to hear it from sober people.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, okay.
So how many times you went outthis week, Like I mean not to
your bar this week?
Yeah, oh, okay, Like I knowyou're getting drunk in your
bath.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It's zero.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
then you don't go out to walk in streets.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Because last time when we go out together, it's
like last week, not this week,not this week, yeah, so that
means this week is zero.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I thought like you're partying every day.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Really.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
No, I'm already partying at my work Every Monday
.
Normally I'm like dead.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
But like you yesterday, monday normally,
normally I'm like dead but like,like you, yesterday is like not
really many people come to sit,so okay, yesterday you mean in
the bar.
Yeah, yesterday is like peoplecome really late so I don't
drink much okay, yesterdayactually was very quiet all over
the place, like also wasextremely quiet and I I know why
, like some of the reasonbecause normally we go to
(19:09):
ladyboy bars, because this isour friend, friend, and
yesterday there was one big,very big birthday for, for lily
from oh, yes, you know her.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, I see, I see her on the event you meet her
before um, I'm not sure I mightmeet her in the Anthony birthday
party.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
In the restaurant.
Okay, I don't know herpersonally.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
She's very nice, she's like the co-owner of the
place.
Well, it's named after her,very beautiful.
And yesterday was her party.
So me and the guys, so Scottand Michelle and Tino, we all
thought, okay, we will come late, it will not be busy, right?
We came then 1 am.
(19:54):
You cannot sit Full outside,full inside, everyone drunk,
they bought.
You don't know her, but someonethat named Jasmine Angel Show.
So she's a very famous ladyboyfrom before.
She used to do a lot of pornand now she's doing these
cabaret shows.
It was like one hour of cabaretshow with three ladyboys, one
(20:18):
gay man and one lady, yeah, andit was like they just started
one this show.
So think how crazy was theparty.
Wow.
And then when we went out, wewent out to three bars everyone
was empty.
They say no one come today.
No one come today, no one cometoday.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
No, it's like not even much people walking on the
soysick, like yesterday too.
I was like how is thishappening?
Yeah, normally Sunday is notthat busy.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Sunday is the worst day busy, but it's not this day.
You know like normally friendswill come visit and stuff, but
everyone just disappears yeah,but I think soy sticks still get
more action than most of theplaces in Bangladesh.
So when you say not much, youstill.
I'm sure your bars still makemoney.
I went to three bars yesterday.
One of them make 200 baht allday.
(21:07):
No, not that bad 200 baht, I'mnot joking.
All day they sell two beers,that's it, and the ladies sit
outside they buy their ownsangsom battle.
It was a lady bar and justsitting said no one comes, so we
buy our own battle.
You know 200 baht.
(21:27):
You open the bar for what likethis is not good enough reason.
You're losing a lot of moneyand I asked her like it was like
this every day.
She said no, yesterday we makezero.
Yeah, you know many people thinkmany people think that they
will come here, they open, openbar, they will make money.
(21:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I know Everyone believe me.
When I meet the new peoplethey're always like oh soon you
will see me as the boss of thebar.
It's like, haha sure, thatreaction I get.
Like haha sure.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
No manager of the bar is no problem, Easy to find
manager, Not the manager.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I'm talking about the owner.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, but it's so hard to open bars, as we talked
before about concepts, and thenyou need to find ladies and
everyone think, oh, it's easy tofind ladies.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, I see my friend go crazy, even like two, three
months before we opening it, youknow, like during the renovate.
Yeah, you know the document,the paper and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, we know some.
Actually it's interesting.
So sometimes we go out of SoiBokau and we're just walking
around and we found ourselvesone day in Triton yeah, I know
it's still Soi Bokau, but likein the inner bars in Triton, and
there is one bar there named Iwill not say the name.
I know why I will not say thename.
(22:46):
I know why I will not say thename.
I will explain soon.
And so it's a mixed bar Fourladies, two ladyboys and the
ladyboys there.
They not work salary, they workcontract.
So every 10 days 10,000 bahtthis is how they work.
So it's very expensive to havethem around.
So for one month they getalmost almost 30 000 because
(23:09):
they have two days off, butalmost 30 000, but they don't
get drinks.
No drink commission oh so butthat's too good yeah, but their
drink is 200.
So all the ladies that worksalary their drink is 150 and
they get 50 baht commission.
They need to sell drink for 200and they get nothing.
(23:31):
It's still good.
They are still making bettermoney, right, but it's
interesting to see.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, I've never seen this strategy of paying.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I think it's a low season strategy.
They say, okay, I want to gohome, you want me to stay?
Make sure I stay giving themoney.
I don't want to worry aboutselling drinks or not.
I need my 30k every month.
It's a low season, so everyoneis struggling to make money.
And why the reason?
I didn't want to say the nameof the bar?
(24:05):
So one of the lady boys there wehad a chat, all of us together,
and she's very smart.
So she's 30 years old, shealready makes two houses, she
has two cars already and shesaves the money.
She's not going with customers.
She says I never go withcustomers.
If someone wants to take me toa date, okay, we can go to a
(24:28):
date.
I don't go for money.
So I asked where the money from.
Oh, before, I have bigrestaurant, very big restaurant.
She saw.
She showed me picture, huge,huge restaurant she had before.
I will not say where she frombecause I don't want people
maybe know her, but hugerestaurant.
And the interesting thing thatshe told me.
She told me I have secrets.
I say what secret do you have?
(24:50):
She have a baby.
So four months, four years ago,she want to have a baby.
So she take her sperm to thehospital and she know one lady
so she pay for her and you know,and now she have baby Like I
never.
How many lady boys you knowthat have baby Zero, zero.
You know how rare it is.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
And she's so motherly , like you speak with her and
you just see she just showed methe picture of her son she
starts crying, like she's reallylike a mother.
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, notbecause she's a ladyboy.
I'm saying like how she's intoit, the ladyboy.
I'm saying like how she's intoit and like every three weeks
she goes back home to meet himfor one day.
She always, when he hassomething in well, his phone,
(25:33):
but something important aboutbirthday, she goes back to him.
You know, it's so rare to seeit.
And I said, wow, it's amazing.
She said, yeah, why don't allladyboys not do it?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I don't know, because the son also comes from her
sperm, so it's kind of like herson.
Yeah, but all ladyboys can dothat.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
She has sperm, she can take her sperm.
Well, she's still young, but Imean make a baby if she wants
right, so it's not a problem.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, I don't really see myself like a ladyboy or
even gay, that they want to havea baby if they don't have a
partner.
You know what I mean.
Normally they will be likemarried first and then like
thought about it.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, but marriage in the LGBTQ community is
complicated.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Not because how hard it is to get married, but many
of them and I know it because Ihave many people not many, but
some people in my family andsome people in my friends that
really like into that communityback home, like they are deep in
that community and everyonefucking with everyone, even when
(26:38):
they have a relationship, thereare like a lot of them cheating
on each other, or sometimesthey just bring someone from the
outside.
So only, like the famous gaysin israel have babies.
Most of them, like I know, havefew couples, of course, but
like the famous, if they arefamous, of course they want to
show oh, we have a baby, we dothis, we do this, but it's not
(27:00):
very common yeah, it's not verycommon would you make a baby in
the future?
why not?
No, no.
You don't want a baby, you wantjust to take care of yourself,
really.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Okay, and you?
Never you don't want a baby.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
No, never think about it.
Never thought about it, neverin my mind.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Maybe it will start to cross your mind later.
You know, I had a friend that Iknow all her life.
Almost we know each other sinceshe's 11.
She's older than me one year,so I was 10, she was 11.
We grew up together.
She always say no, no baby, nobaby, you know.
And she's like she's almost atomboy.
(27:41):
She don't like lady, but likehow she act, she almost.
She's very like tough andeverything.
And when she got to be 33, herbody start to tell her you need
baby, you need baby, you needbaby.
Then I say hey, what's going on, say I'm having a baby.
I say oh, what happened?
Where is your like strongattitude that I don't need a
baby?
I don't know.
(28:01):
I don't want to die alone oh,that's, so sad yeah, like she
have a.
She have a husband.
But she say like she thinkabout the future, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
So I don't know, maybe it happened to you one day
I know I don't think so, Idon't want to, I don't want to
like something, something thattell me very strongly that I
should not have a baby.
That I look at, I look atmyself.
What.
What if my baby be like me?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Like you how.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
What a headache.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Like you?
How?
What do you mean Like aboutyour personality?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Kind of, and also, like you know, I did not really
talk to my family In a year.
We talked like one time, oneyear one time two years, one
time.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You are independent, you are taking care of yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Too independent.
No Like if I'm attached tosomething that much and it goes
away.
You cannot know if it's dieddead or like.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, but I think it's also about how you create.
Every relationship that we havein our life is different.
Like, let's say, myrelationship with my father even
is different from therelationship with my mother even
.
They still stay together, right, but I treat my father
different than I treat my mother.
(29:17):
So your relationship with yourfamily is one thing, but with
your child it might be like, wow, you will be inseparable.
You know, you can never know.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I don't know, maybe.
I will let you know if somedayI thought you see it's become
from no to a maybe.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So there is a thought in your mind about it.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Okay, now it's record .
So one day, I promise one day,if I thought about having a baby
, I will tell you the fullpresent okay.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You know you will have many.
This baby will have all thisfamily of the people that listen
to us.
He will be the baby, thepodcast baby.
We put him here right.
He not have to talk much likefemme, just have microphone when
he cry.
That's it.
It will be the podcast baby.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
First let me find a husband, Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I don't even have a boyfriend.
You have many husbands no, oh,I wish.
You wish, you can find easyMaybe seven Monday, tuesday,
wednesday, thursday.
Easy, for you Easy.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
No, it's not.
The thing is like you findYou're not dating, you find no,
why not?
I don't see anyone come to meyet.
Come on, I mean Be serious,you're a beautiful lady.
No one come to you and say no,just regular, regular.
(30:31):
Hey, ellie, I like you like canwe go out sometime?
Uh, just start to have now buta little bit like sketchy for me
.
I don't know this person he'solder no young, one year younger
okay, so it's okay.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
It's not like a dirty old farang that want to touch
your ass all the time Becauseshe's young, interesting.
Thai.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Oh, foreigner.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I never did Thai.
Maybe you should, maybe if Ifind someone that really pops in
my eyes.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, but you told us on the last episode that
actually you're more attractedto foreigners.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
More like only foreigners.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Only foreigners.
Yeah, like in your mind, theylook better.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, they stand out more for me.
I don't know, I never, I not.
I don't see much of thai peoplethat I look and then like, oh
my god, this one, it look good.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Like this guy look handsome not me in general asian
guys asian guy, koreansometimes you like the feminine
korean style, like the bts orand all that, or you like the
more manly ones.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Oh, I like more the manly ones.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, I used to meet one guy, the Korean guy, but
he's not really Korean Becausehe visits Korea like two times.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
So he's American-Korean.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, he's from America.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
But he's like taller than me and a big buff guy.
Oh, like Michelle, like verybuffed and everything, not her,
like michelle like, likemichelle, 10 person to push
together really very big, yeah,bigger than you, yeah that's
interesting yeah, you say yeah,okay, but the thing is like when
(32:06):
, when I invite him to partywith my friend group, I have my
friend that like only korean andshe just oh, and she upset
about him, like she's like, Ireally like him.
Oh, my god, give him to meplease.
Like.
Yes, you can take him if helike you and you like you share
no, because I never like go abed or anything with him, you
know oh just a friend.
(32:28):
Yeah, so it's just like firsttime meeting him too.
Okay, you know.
So it's like friend groupgathering.
So it's like yeah, you likeeach other go together.
But then he turned my frienddown very hard.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Really yeah, she wasn't his type.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
No, he said, I like skin, like your skin, I don't
like the white like those peopleoh, she was whiter yes, so this
is something actually we talkedabout.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
So many people that come from the western countries.
They prefer the 10 girls likethe darker skin and the asians
they like the white skin yeah,but he asian, but he lived in.
Yeah, he lived in america, soall his life and you have to
remember, the Americans are verylike right now into the Latina
(33:12):
and the black culture.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I'm very into Latina too no, the culture I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
So it's Latina or Latinos.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Latina girls okay no guy, I don't see much for me.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
For me, I'm sorry, it's okay but because they grew
up like in that kind of culturethat this is like cool to be
like that so everyone tried tobe 10 and you know.
So when they come here theyreally like the gold skin of the
thais.
You know the golden skin.
None of you are golden like you, are a bit yellow and you're
(33:48):
white I don't know what yourcolor yeah, oh, she has taken
very heartbroken that time okay,but you know what we can do.
We can do like a game show, wecan like we are looking at it
and we are looking for a husbandfor ellie, and like people can
apply and send their email andpictures.
(34:09):
And then you can like chooseokay, this, this, this.
And we can like even have themonline here talking with you
while we are shooting they can't, they're like they also can
like to put on the comment.
I will go read okay better sendemail with the picture no cock,
no cock, no dick pics no onlypicture of your face and maybe a
little bit like this, the body.
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Where's my camera?
Which?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
one.
This is your camera.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, no, it's fine, can say with the arrangement
okay yeah, but then I get it andI have to open it every time
it's fine, so you know which oneis better oh, you want, I
choose, you have one, so you canhelp me choose with with style
it'sbetter okay okay, me and fem, we
sit together, we check all thecocks and we decide which cock,
because you have one, so you canhelp me choose which style is
better?
Okay, okay, me and Femme, wesit together, we check all the
cocks and we decide which cockis better for you.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yes, yes, so you're professional.
You help me out okay, okay, noproblem.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
It's like the other day.
Yesterday I was sitting withFemme and like Femme Michelle,
and then she showed me somepicture in her phone.
I see a cock.
I said why are you showing methis Like?
For what reason?
But it's very common here,especially the ladyboys.
They are crazy.
They always show each othereverything.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Oh, not just the ladyboy, believe me.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I've never seen a lady show me her pussy.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But I don't show the pussy to the thing.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Like, hey, you want to see my pussy?
I never see that.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I have someone like that.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Really In your bar that show her pussy all the time
?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
No, no, no, no no.
My friend, my friend.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Why.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
My friend like Ellie.
Look why is like do you think Ishould go laser?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Like it's a medical examination, but she know that I
hate to see pussy.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I don't even watch porn, you know.
So she do that just to.
I don't know.
But I said like, are youserious?
She said yeah, I'm serious.
I'm about to book like to dolaser changing color thing.
Is love changing color?
Yeah, you can change the colorcan you make it green?
Not like that.
That one, you have to take two,it's gonna paint so what?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So what do you mean?
Change color?
I'm sorry, no, no.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Make an example, because Thai right is kind of
dark on that area.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
So they can do laser to drop the melanin color.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Oh, like Michael Jackson, like changing the color
.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Not that much, but it's dropped a little bit and
also it's cheap.
It's hurt?
Oh, I think so.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
So they are burning the let's be, I will be making
medical terms now so they areburning the vagina area in order
to, to rip it, to make itlighter.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, to make it lighter.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Okay, I think they should like a laser.
Yeah, but laser still burns.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yes, they say it's going to feel like your elastic
band on your okay on your skinbut, you think about elastic
band on your?
Yeah, well we are gonna be theother day.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I will see, okay.
So there is one um lady boy barthat we go a lot.
It's 69 and I have one of mybest friend, jean.
She will hate that I'm talkingabout her right now.
She will hate it.
And you say her name and I willstill say her name and she's
sometimes she's one of my bestfriends, but sometimes she can
be a bitch.
So we're just sitting there, Ido nothing, like I talk with my
(37:20):
friends or whatever, and shecome and she just on my balls
and I like this, I On my ballsand I'm like this.
I said, jean, why you do this?
And she's just laughing.
I said, jean, don't do thisplease.
Okay, okay, I'm not doing thisagain.
30 minutes later, again I'mlike this.
And then I say, jean, you wantI do it back to you?
She said you can do, look, andthen she just slapped herself on
(37:43):
the balls.
She not even like move.
She not even like move, nothing.
So we are more sensitive inthat area.
Like, even you do like that,I'm not joking, it hurt Very
badly, I know Very badly.
You agree no For you, itdoesn't hurt.
No, really, someone do this toyou.
Nothing.
To your balls, nothing.
To your balls you have to train, I have to change my balls, you
(38:08):
have to train, train my balls.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yes, you have to train oh, not for me.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
You know, I have one one, one of my best friends,
back home, so she's a lady andshe used to do like she was a
mistress.
You know what?
mistress mean you know what itmean.
Like she like to men pay hermoney for they, she slap them
and spit on them and pee pee onthem.
They pay a lot of money forthis.
So she used to do this and thenshe became something else that
(38:37):
it's called financial control.
So she just take their moneyand do nothing and the men like
it like oh, you want me toanswer your message?
No problem, 100 euro.
Oh, she has to teach me yeah, Iwill show you a picture later of
her.
By the way, christina, she'scoming soon, maybe we are
talking, so come over and thisis what she does and she's
(39:00):
making a lot of money out of it.
But there was a time that herwork was and you can find her
videos online she was justkicking men in the balls.
Men pay her money, so they come, they wear the underwear, or
sometimes nothing, and she juststand there and she she learned
muay thai before and she justkick them in the balls as hard
as she can and the men love ityou think they just have a
(39:23):
technique to like not be, notmake, not make the man like too
injured she I don't know, Idon't know.
She told me she do it as strongas she can and she told me, the
more strong she do it, they getharder from it.
She like they are in.
I guess it's like kind of afetish.
They are really into it, butonly the balls thing.
So sometimes she take high heeland she like step on the balls.
(39:47):
You know, and I don't get it,like I would, never I would pay
someone not to do it to me.
You know, let's say jean goingto do this here jean, 100 baht,
please don't do it to me.
You know, I don't get it.
Why people pay it?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
in order to yeah, like, yeah, some people just
like it, I guess.
I've seen the picture beforeand it's like for me it's just
gimmick group, it's too hardcore.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
It is.
But some, like I, understandwhy people get turned on.
Because people get turned on bysomething that is taboo,
Something that is a bit wrong orout of society, so it makes
them more excited.
For example, you know there isa club here in pataya that only
do this stuff, so it's calledthe the castle.
You know the castle, so it'splaced in the size am, so in the
(40:37):
third road and it's look like acastle the castle you know what
is a castle.
It's like a fort, like a bigbuilding, like you know where
the king and the queen stay.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I know the castle, but I mean I never.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Oh, you don't know the place, okay.
And then I think you pay 1,000baht to go inside, something
like that, and then you havelady and men there and you pay
their money.
Basically, they tie you andthen they have whip to whip you
and they kick you in the ballsand spit on you or whatever we
have.
I know two guys that go thereregularly.
(41:13):
Regularly they spend a lot ofmoney.
They're like one nightsometimes they spend 10,000,
15,000.
Yeah, but you have to pay justto come inside.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
What about the host?
Like they are Thai or they areThai, so they have.
Oh, what about the host?
Like they are Thai or they areThai?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
They have, so they have.
Oh listen, we can find someonefor you.
Do you know my friend Greg?
He was in the podcast also.
He's really into this stuff.
If you want, he's a goodlooking.
Well, he's a good looking guy.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Okay, if you want, I will go check it out.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, he's in Malaysia now.
He's coming back soon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's coming.
She knows Greg.
You know him.
Why do you talk too much today?
Can you let us speak a littlebit, or you want?
Speaker 2 (41:59):
to take over the podcast.
Maybe because you keep it alittle bit.
That's why she gets tired.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Oh, we told her before your job is to come here
and look pretty Right.
We told her before your job isto come here and look pretty
right and you're doing your jobwell.
Let me check check what we haveabout enough time, he will let
us know.
So tell me about soy 6.
(42:25):
Why should I go there?
You know I hate it.
You tried to make me come therea few times.
I'm not talking about your bar.
Give me one benefit I get inSoy6 that I don't get in
SoyBokal.
Not me.
Come on, I'm there, you arethere.
of course, this is the onlybenefit.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I really don't know.
I just Sometimes, when the baris, I feel kind of like, yeah,
it's not my bar, but it's alsomy work you know yeah, but it
would be more better, likefriend, to come with this, like
just sit I understand that.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
But I mean, let's say , you don't know me, okay, and
you, you meet me um wherever inbang and you tell me we talk
about Soy 6 and I tell you, oh,I don't like, I hear about this,
I never go.
How would you convince me to go?
What's so special about?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
that First thing.
You're wrong step to say I hearabout it, I never go.
That's the thing that's goingto make you that we want to make
you to go.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
So make me go.
Yes, make me go.
What is so good about it?
Because I've been there a fewtimes.
I've been there even 10 yearsago, when it was much different
and you heard the stories, howdifferent it was.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Well, if you've already been there, like it
would be hard to convince youbecause, like it's not as good
as before too, and it's manythings.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
But even before it was Sorry, but before I will not
say it was shit because I knowmany people like it, but even
before I didn't enjoy it.
It was too crowded.
Again, the ladies were toogrubby.
It's very hard to walk from oneside to the street and to the
other without someone tryingforcefully to drag you into the
bar.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
You know that.
I know my lady do that and it'smuch more expensive, much more
no, I cannot convince you,except like come see me please
of course I'm not talkingpersonally, but I I don't get
the appeal to be honest, like Ialso like, cannot really like if
(44:29):
it was the friend that alreadyknow what is soy sick is like
come before and stuff like that.
I will never ask them okay tothem to come because, like, if I
see them around, that meansthey like it, but if they say
they will come before and theysay they don't like it, that
means they don't like it,because I also don't see them
around.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, but you, you even told me that even before
you walked you like to go soysix.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Why?
Because, okay, I remember lastepisode we talked about the bar
that I like yeah but in size 6,first thing is convenient, like
I gotta go out drinking anywayand I bought.
I start getting bored ofwalking street yeah, walking
street I never go walking streetalone you know, normally I go
(45:17):
with friends, because if nofriends, but also when you go
walking street alone, you know,normally I go with friends.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Because if no friend.
But also when you go walkingstreet, you don't go to the bars
, you go to the clubs.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
I know, but then I start to get bored of it.
So and then, and then.
Another owner he also have apartnership.
Okay, partnership, yeah, apartnership Partnership in the
soy six, right before he openedown bar, right okay yeah, so
it's like okay, first it's afriend bar, my friend bar, yeah,
(45:46):
and second, um, I already beenthere with them before so you
know I know some lady there, andthen I have the lady that take
care, take care of me very goodand always talk to me.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
So it's more about personal collection.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yes, and you don't find yourself like enjoying more
in the soy bocadillo area.
Sometimes I did not find a bar.
I did not find a bar.
That is like, actually I gothere for the person.
Yeah, you know, because when Ifeel tired from work, I go there
.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
To meet your friends or whatever.
Yeah, I just meet that ladythat I check everything.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I know a man you go meet there, sometimes not that
many.
It's because the men that gothere for me, no, I'm talking
about mark from suburb thatsometimes he's okay.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Oh, you just talked about that one.
Yeah, just come on it's late,late later.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I know him like from from the friend group I know,
but I mean he's your friend.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Sometimes you just go visit him, or this.
This is what I mean.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah, but I mean, but I just know him now.
I mean back then when I startedto go to SoySafe.
You know, I go there for justone lady and then when I go to
another bar like another area, Itry I go to another area.
I don't find a lady that like,definitely like this you know
Okay.
Because she don't.
(47:00):
She don't like herself.
They don't push me to buy drink, but I always dump all the
drink on her.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
I know I will not say how much you spent last time,
but I was shocked when I heardwhat last time where after that
we did the podcast, we went to arestaurant.
You insisted to pay you, notlet me pay, okay.
Then the same night, I know howmuch you spent and I was.
I know and I was shocked.
(47:23):
You're fucking crazy.
Like it's not, you don't needto spend that much money.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
I don't know how much I spent that night, because I
just spent all my money I know Ithink it was all your money.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
It was crazy.
Like you need to to thinkbefore you spend that much like
budget yourself come on, I try,when I already like hook up with
fun.
I just like I know also becauseyour friend came and you
haven't seen her for a long time, so you you want to show her
good time yeah, and I see herboyfriend first time.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
I don't want to like to let him pay everything you
know what?
Speaker 1 (47:57):
this very considerate of you, because most of the
ladies will do the opposite.
So they say, oh, we have a finein the group, we let him pay
everything.
Yeah, like the other days, itwas funny.
So I went again to 69 and whenthe bar was closed I went home
and few of the lady boys theresend me message that they are
going eating like my friends.
They say like we want to go,mukata, we share.
(48:19):
I say yeah, no problem, and wego there.
We've been like 12 people andall my friends gone and I still
stay because I had to go toimmigration in the morning so I
don't want to sleep and now havegroup of nine only one of them
is my friend and all the ninetry to put the bill on me and my
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friend just took the bill.
She said no, we share.
And the bill wasn't that much,it was 2,500.
But she said no, we share.
We all say share.
Why you put on him?
Because in Farang.
And all of them like shy.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
That's very nice of her yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
No, she's my friend.
I know I'm not worried, butit's still like most of not most
, but many of the ladies and theladyboys, when they see farming
they say, oh, you have to payyeah, and sometimes it doesn't
even have to be a farm, you know, because like, yeah, it has a
man in the group.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
But then it's like I feel like it's not fair because
like sometimes it's like 12girls with one man and then, the
men have to like care of allthe bills for everyone,
Especially in Bangkok.
Everyone has their own grass,you know.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
And it's much more expensive.
Yes, much more expensive, Ithink.
Mugata, same Mugata in Bangkokwill cost like 6,000, same wheat
.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Can be yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, because if you want good beef, it's gonna start
with like 1000 yeah 999, butstill yeah, but they take for
weight.
So each one of us had the plateof almost three kilos oh yeah,
especially like if the othercalf or three kilo, 12 people,
(49:57):
2500, nothing with the beersyeah, we, we go eat together
with how many we like 5 peopleyeah 5 yeah, 5 people, but then
the thing is like we don'treally eat that much too.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
I eat a lot, no.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
I mean, like normally , if it's nomukata, we're gonna
eat like 2 times more.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course,and they're probably gonna be 3
times yeah normally if it'snomukata, we're gonna eat like
two times more yeah yeah, yeah,of course, and they're probably
gonna be three times, yeah, butit was.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
I enjoyed, like I never been to that place but I
will go back there.
I don't remember the name so Inot say to the listeners, but
it's like maybe you know it's inthe back side of soy bonkot, so
you know where is the soy whereall the gentlemen buzz the
love-in soy.
You know, love-in soy.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
You know love-in, soy Love-in soy.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
You know, love-in soy when they have like a short
time full of in.
So you know this soy In theother soy next to it.
There is one big mukata there.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
So yeah, it's good yeah very good, very good.
You see, she's hungry.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
How are you hungry?
You ate at BB restaurant like afew hours ago.
It's okay.
What did you eat in BB?
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Pork fried rice pork fried rice.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Pork fried rice okay oh, I'm hungry.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
I just wake up as a couple fuck you, fuck you.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Wait, wait, wait, fuck you.
After this, we are going to eatand I'm paying, and if you even
touch your wallet, okay, you'renot doing this podcast anymore.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
I can't even hold my wallet this Friday.
I can switch my wallet and giveit to you.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
We talked about this before.
No, we said that today we takeyou eat somewhere nice.
Okay, okay, no problem.
Okay, okay, come, I'll let youand by the way, the BB that we
said before is a restaurant ofmy friend Derek.
He's from America, Like he's anAsian guy, handsome guy kind of
(52:05):
, and he's there all the time.
I think he's married.
I'm not sure I saw him with ababy, but I don't like to ask
too much personal questions.
And it's really the 7-Eleven inSoi Bon Cote.
In the second 7-Eleven, If youdrive nice restaurant small,
they open really early.
They take all the drunk peoplein, you know.
So they open like five or sixand four they are already closed
(52:29):
.
They want only the drunk people.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
Only like to jump out from the crab and go straight
there to eat before sleep.
Yeah, get very tired.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
It's a small restaurant.
It's very small, but the foodis good.
And today even, by the way,when you know, I go to meet my
friends, so some of my friendscall me today also, from 69,
they were near my room.
They say, hey, we're here, weare looking for change room for
one of our friends, just come bewith us.
So we walk around, we look fewrooms, the rooms that are kind
(53:00):
of cheap, between four thousandto six thousand, but good rooms.
We went upstairs, we look atthe rooms and then they just,
okay, we know good restaurant.
I said, okay, they drag me tobb restaurant also and they're
like, hey, guy, how you doing?
And I said, oh, I'm okay.
And they look shocked how youknow him.
I said I know everyone.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Come on, this is my job, I need to know everyone
yeah, and in Soi Bongkot theyhave one of the barbecue
restaurant that I really lovewhich one.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Kral Rishis where is that?
Grill Rishis sorry yeah, whichpart of Soi Bonkot.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I think Soi Bonkot 3, maybe.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
So at the beginning, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
So on the Thirse Road , right Thirse Road, it has like
a top building.
I think it's called LKsomething.
Have many Condo right, okay,and then in the front of the Soi
?
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Oh, you mean LK Empress, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah, in the oh you mean LK, lk, empress yeah, and
the front of the President's.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
It's half, and after that you turn right to Soi.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Benkot, it's like a horse crap.
I never go in.
It's like a go-go crap on thefront the third road.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
Yes, no, so this is the tomboy.
Gap the tomboy is it.
Yeah, this is the tomboy club.
I don't you, I just see it.
But I don't know you rememberbefore I was talking about the
tomb.
Yeah, yeah.
Right next to the hotel, thisis the tomboy club.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
No, not right next to the hotel, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
I heard that at explaining and after that you
mean over there have a closedmukata.
Yeah, it's closed.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
It looks like a stone , but they make cement look like
a stone.
But they make like cement looklike yeah, I've been there, yeah
, I either really, yeah, Ieither.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
Last time we, we go to do go-kart with pim and the
guys after this, pim say, oh,I'm hungry, let's go eat.
And we all eat, but only scottsit like this what is this?
I don't know how can I eat thisand they have to cook for him.
About the mukata I know, youknow I'm, I'm basically almost
died, but he's like I don't knowwhat to do and they have to
cook for him.
About the mukata I know, youknow I'm, I'm basically almost
died, but he's like I don't knowwhat to do and they have to
(55:02):
explain everything.
And he like I want chicken butthey don't have chicken.
Yeah, they have everything, butno chicken.
Yeah, so it was funny.
So we want to go there also lasttime.
But then we changed.
But the reason I do like totalk about restaurants here
because many people come hereand they are afraid about the
(55:23):
food.
You know, first even I mean thepeople that come thailand first
time I remember when I camefirst time I didn't know how to
order, I didn't know what totake.
You know, everything is soright in th, especially on the
carts or the street, and it'sdifferent.
Yeah, and you have even thenoodle soup.
(55:43):
You have so many kinds, theyellow sign, the white sign, and
it's different, it's not thesame.
So one of them is sweet, one ofthem is sour, so you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
And I think the benefit of restaurants that
normally they have menus andnormally they have menus and
normally they have menus inEnglish.
And some of the restaurantshere are so shit, especially the
ones in the main road, right,you know what I mean Are not
good.
But when you find a good smallrestaurant, I always want to
(56:21):
recommend it, you know, becauseI want people to feel
comfortable here with the food.
I don't want people like I willnot say other countries, but
many people that go outside oftheir own country and come to
southeast asia and the otherareas here they get they scared
to get food poisoning,especially in one main country
which, which I will not name,and here it's not like that,
(56:41):
like the food is very clean.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
I think I don't know like.
Well, I never get food poisonedin my life, even if you're like
in the side of the road, youknow.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
The side of the road is better.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, but the food tastes better too.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
You never get food poisoning?
Speaker 2 (56:57):
really no, I don't think so, Except like eat too
much and then I have to pick itup because I eat too much.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
And when you eat too much spicy, yeah, that also
gives me a little bit hurt.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
But not like food poisoning Okay.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
I get food poisoning, I think, two times in Thailand,
but it was definitely my fault.
Fault, like first time I getsome dish that I normally know.
I ordered um, I think it was afried rice and I taste first and
something tastes not, not, notright, but I think, oh, it's a
new restaurant, I never eat ithere.
(57:34):
I finish all food poisoningfive days.
It was just bad.
They give me bad food.
Maybe the rice was too old, Idon't know, but the food wasn't
good.
I don't need more, normally yeahand the second time it was like
I was very drunk and I waswalking near my street and I saw
a group of thai guys and theycalling me hey, hey, hey, come
(57:55):
drink with us.
I said, okay, come drink withthem.
And then they have like a freshchop oh, fresh chopped meat it
costs like two yeah with a lotof chili raw, raw, raw meat I
like it, but no, no, I like it.
I eat before also yeah, but youhave to be careful though so
their food, their meat wasn'tfresh and I got five days food
(58:19):
poisoning again.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
That's one that's specifically manual.
Even me, I have to be careful,because if they chop it fresh,
you know, and then it has to bevery fresh.
Speaker 1 (58:31):
Yeah, but they eat it also.
So I thought, okay, it's okayand it tasted okay, because you
know, when it's so spicy, youdon't know if it's.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Stink or not yeah or if it's like yeah so it was okay
.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
I was eating it with them, we were all eating, and
the next time I was like good, Ididn't go to the hospital, but
it was close to that.
So when I get it, I just triesto drink a lot of water, a lot,
a lot, a lot.
Take tablets, lot, take tablets.
You know parts of the mold allthe time and wait for it to go.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Yeah, so.
I never have.
I never have that experience.
I think I have like kind oflike iron stomach.
I'm always very proud of it.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
My ex-wife had the same.
She always say I never get it,never get it, never get it.
The moment she moved to mycountry, everything is different
, so the air is different, thewater is different, everything.
And she got food poisoning inmy country and also she got like
(59:33):
she cannot shit for like twoweeks.
You know what I mean.
It was she.
She cannot like she try andit's very hurt.
And I think also, even if youthink you have iron stomach,
when you will go out and staylong time in different country,
it will take your I think forsure like.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
I'm not again that's really because I cannot say that
.
But I'm not again that's reallybecause I cannot say that.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
But I'm not again that like this thing okay I feel
like it can happen, because I'mjust comfortable in how long
will it take me to convince youlet's say, I bring you to my
home, back home?
How long it will take me toconvince you to drink water from
the tap?
not long, I think because hereyou cannot do that.
(01:00:23):
I don't know if the listenersknow, but here you never drink
from the tap.
You buy waters or you drinkwhat the hotel give.
You do not ever drink from thetap because the water are not
clean.
Right, it's good for shower.
You can even brush your teeth.
Better use this.
You don't want the water goinside your mouth.
But in my country, no problem,everyone drink from the top.
(01:00:45):
You can find the holes in thestreet and just if you you
thirsty like this, no problem.
Okay, guys, so we get a notethat we have to close this
episode.
See you next week.
Thank you everyone.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Thank you, ellie thank you to you too thank you,
fam.
Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Please next time don't talk too much um.
You have any words to ourlisteners, something you want to
say?
Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
oh, thanks, so I will come and join you guys again on
the next week, for sure and Iwill waiting for the apply for
my future husband?
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
yeah, we were serious like send us emails, pictures,
occupation, how much money youmake, everything.
She want to know all.
I'm joking.
But, yeah, send us.
And, of course, again, guys,please, please, please, if you
can like, subscribe, it's very,very important.
It doesn't cost you anything.
And if you do want to spendmoney, go check our patreon.
(01:01:39):
The reason and I say it manytimes, the reason we can do it
in a studio, which is veryexpensive, by the way.
Yeah, it's very expensive, butwe like it.
It's because of you, guys.
So, please, if you can go tothe patreon, check it out.
It really helps.
Thank you, guys, and see younext time.
Bye.
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