August 15, 2025 • 41 mins
What happens when life takes an unexpected turn and you find yourself building a completely different reality than you planned? Meet Kat, a 29-year-old Californian whose path veered dramatically from Japan to Thailand during the pandemic, creating a life that revolves around Pattaya's pulsing nightlife.
"I was going nuts back home just sitting around," Kat explains, describing his impulsive decision to relocate to Thailand when borders reopened. Starting in Bangkok before settling in Pattaya, he reveals the fascinating economics of expat life—how he lives comfortably on less than $15,000 annually while maintaining a lifestyle that would be unsustainable in the West. "I live cheap," he shares, "even when I'm making money too."
The conversation offers rare insights into Pattaya's bar culture, where manager positions typically pay around 30,000 baht ($850) monthly plus commission. Kat's unconventional schedule—waking at 10:30 PM and socializing until morning—perfectly aligns with what he calls a "night town" atmosphere. "Everything's at night here," he explains, revealing how this nocturnal rhythm actually matches his natural tendencies back home.
We explore his entrepreneurial past breeding French Bulldogs (selling puppies for $3,000-12,000 each), cultural misunderstandings between tourists and locals, and the unique social dynamics that make Thailand's expat communities so distinctive. For anyone curious about alternative lifestyles or considering their own international adventure, this candid conversation pulls back the curtain on the realities—both challenging and liberating—of creating a life abroad on your own terms.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Ellie, how are you doing Good?
We have two guests today.
We have the beautiful Pham hereagain.
Pham, this time you have to letus speak, right?
Yeah?
And we have Kat.
How are you doing Good?
So you're a friend with Ellie,yeah, I know nothing about you.
No, and I insist to knownothing about you.
No, and I insist not to knownothing about you.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, but I didn't even tell him who I'm going to
invite.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, I will tell him as our audience meets you.
Oh good, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So give me the basics.
Where are you from?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm from California.
I'm a cat from California.
Been here.
What three and a half years DTB.
No border runs most years, butnot anymore DTB okay.
Now my visa, now my education,oh education, okay, perfect.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
What are you learning ?
Thai?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Supposedly apparently .
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You are learning Three and a half years.
I will surprise if you cannotspeak any Thai.
Thai, yeah, supposedly,apparently, you are learning
Three and a half years.
I will surprise if you cannotspeak any Thai.
Nothing, really A little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'll leave you and speak Thai in the back room.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, yeah, I'll leave you in the back room.
Close the bar.
You're wearing the bar, believeme.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I stayed with my ex-wife for eight years.
Most the Thai language and theIsan language I got from her are
like bad words, Like I know allthe bad words.
Yeah, yeah, that's all I knowAll the worst shit.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
you could say, okay, what brought you here?
I actually wasn't supposed tocome here.
I originally was in Japanbefore COVID, so I went home
during it.
How long were you in Japan?
I was there for like fivemonths.
I was going to go back, I waswaiting to go back.
(01:58):
I was going nuts back home justsitting around.
You know, right after COVID Iwas like all right, what's open,
like right now?
Oh, thailand's open, okay, cool.
And I left.
Like two weeks later I didn'tknow anything about it.
I just came, okay, straight toPattaya.
No Bangkok, I was in Bangkokfor like the first six, seven
months.
Just Bangkok.
Like I loved it.
(02:19):
It was great.
It's just better.
It's more dirty.
Japan, essentially, is all.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I don't know.
I never been to Japan and I'mtelling everyone like it's my
dream, I know I can do it.
I used to know that beforeCOVID, before COVID, I can go
there.
But like I'm a real foodie youcan see that but I'm a real
foodie and like Japan is likeJapanese food is like high tier.
(02:44):
For me it's the best thing itwas good.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Everything I had there was good.
I mean it was all cheap too,Like people say it's expensive
and shit Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And how, like you came to Thailand, you stay there
.
You stay in Bangkok for sixmonths.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, and then I was coming to Thailand to visit,
like on the weekends or whatever.
I'd come over, okay, and then Ijust ended up staying and
staying and worked in the barand all this don't say that I
will delete it later.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
No for you, oh for you.
I'm trying to make sure youdon't have any problems.
Like you know, it's illegal.
Oh so you visited the bar?
Yeah, which bar you visited thebar?
Yeah, which bar you visited.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I was a frequent Frequent there in the bars
Soysauce, mostly.
You know around there which bar, which one was your main bar.
I started hanging out mostly atGoodfellas Okay, that was like
a while ago, yeah and I did,like you know, nightwish and the
(03:47):
whole round circuit and allthat.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It was fun and like by hanging out with the bar.
This is your main income.
Yeah, okay, so you're makingshit money.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
basically, that's being no money, making nothing.
You leave with what you can Ihave a friend.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He was applying to become a manager.
They offered him not inSolistix, in Soyedukey.
Okay, 30k Standard, yeah, plus5% if you reach 1.3 million.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
That's not too bad, though.
At least you get an offer of apercent.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Most of the time, you don't get anything.
That's really not the case atthe same time they should be
able to make 1.3.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's not the same as Well.
It depends what he's working on.
Is it a bar?
It's a small bar, One unit.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
One unit, a small bar , six ladies and a pool table in
the middle, which made it evensmaller.
No, everywhere there is a pooltable, but like it's hard, you
know it's really hard.
Yeah, it's a known bar.
I will not say the names, butthe owner have two bars and he
(04:57):
was looking like one next toeach other and he was looking
for a manager for one of them.
So, my friend, applied.
But he told me that he's notsure they will even pay the
percentage if even he reachedthat, because there is no
contract, there is nothing.
They rarely do.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They rarely do.
Yeah, and it's not.
Yeah, it's not uncommon, yeah,it's like 30K standard just
about nowadays, and then usuallyit's just 30 in commission.
Now, especially on soy steaks,just 30 on commission.
Really 30 on commission, yeah,which is nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Depends how many friends you have.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, you get drinks.
I mean, you get drinks everyday.
I was eating good drinks, butyou know the hangout it's.
Let's say, even if you make 100drinks every month, oh you make
more than that well, the issueis you're doing like 20-30 shots
a day, so you're killingyourself for like a grant you
(05:57):
try to make sure those shots arenot you gotta do the real shot.
The girls can cheat it, theguys can't cheat it.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
You don't think about what happened five years from
now.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
It's not exactly a long Thought process job.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Even me.
I don't cheat on the shot too.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You're a fucking alcoholic.
I'm joking.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
It's a joke, it's a perk that comes with the joke.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Come on, I'm joking, but I've, I've saw you know what
, because I've seen how drunkyou can get.
I know you are not alcoholic,because alcoholic don't get that
drunk, they just no, they justlike sleep before, like they
faint even before they reachthat point.
So you're not alcoholic yet youare just really like to drink.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh yeah, I just love it okay.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I'm not a big drinker , for example, like if I would
decide one day to be a frequentvisitor to a bar.
Let's say like that I will notdrink that much, like my main
income will not be thecommission over there which is
it has to be.
I mean, that's, that's how thejob is, it's just it's not good,
(07:15):
you know, there is a place thatwill not say the name online,
like when we are live.
I can tell you later.
But there is a place on soyboau that I know that is looking
for a manager.
It's a go-go and they're paying50 plus three percent without
any goal.
Wow, yeah, yeah, and it's a biggoogle, like it's always full.
(07:41):
But the the reason they aredoing it?
Because it's kind of a moneylaundering business and they
need a phone to guide.
That's how I want to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's how.
That's how.
That's how yeah I believe it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
You know which, which place I'm talking about.
So they pay a lot of moneybecause they want to make sure
they have someone that if theproblems will come, they can put
on him all the problems yeah,looking for the ghost yeah, so
it happens to people okay, soyou were, as we said, frequent
(08:16):
visit to bars.
You are still doing that.
No, so what?
I stopped a while ago?
Just no, what's your income now?
Like how I saw it a while ago?
No, what's your income now?
How do you make money?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Good question, that's it.
I'll let you know when I figureit out.
Okay, right now I'm justchilling right now.
Okay, but I do, is it?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
expensive to live here?
No, it's not.
It depends Also, especially forpeople that came from Western
countries and had some savings,especially for people that came
from like Western countries andhad some savings, like I guess
you can live here pretty goodaround, like if you have around
15K, I mean USD a year.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Oh easy, oh yeah, I live on less than that
comfortably, really Less thanthat.
Yeah, okay, I live, even if I'mmaking like when I'm making
money too, I live cheap.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Like how cheap.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
You have to ask him like what?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
his daily… daily….
Excuse me, host number two.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
You can ask him also.
Okay, so….
Speaker 2 (09:17):
No, because we are friends.
I was like whether you couldask because like… Okay, wait,
wait wait, I'll play your game.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I'll play your game, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I have a question for you, so I'm very interested you
know what is your daily routinelike.
How do you spend your days?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
ah, is it true?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
are you a shy guy?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
no, I'm not shy at all, it's just, you know, I wake
up at like 10 30pm pm.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
yeah, I go hang out with I was just going to give
him a compliment.
Wow, that's really early 10.30that's amazing.
I wish I would wake up everyday 10.30.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Then you set the PM and, like I, have a different
look at you and then I go andhang out in a spot close to my
house, kind of near 26 the girlsI know we go hang out.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, the girls stuff , I go and we go hang out,
friends of you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the girls and stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I go and we go hang out and it's oh, exposed the
place, it's already exposed.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Oh yeah, oh, you got the stalker I forgot.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Really you have a stalker.
Yeah, we will come to it later.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
But it's good, I go hang out there and we drink and
snack.
So yeah, I play games, play Uno, till morning and then I go
home and I go to bed.
That's his life.
That's especially the dailyroutine.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You're going to see him eat at like a little yeah,
but he's very skinny.
How old are you?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
29.
20?
, 29.
29.
Okay, so, yeah, he's very young, he's very skinny.
How old are you?
29, 20?
, 29, 29, okay.
So, yeah, he's very young, he'svery skinny.
I can see like you don't haveany like extra weight on you, so
no, no, I mean the only thingthat he's drinking alcohol.
That's the only like.
Yeah, it's good for you smoking, also smoking occasionally.
(11:20):
I'm not smoking cigarettes Weed, no Good, okay, no, I don't
smoke weed, okay, it's toostrong for me.
Now, really, the weed here?
Yeah, you came from California.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I know it's strong for me there too now I used to
smoke in school a half a puffand you're done and avoiding
everything, I try not to even Adrink.
I like to drink Really.
Yeah, so you even drink.
I'm repping the brand after all.
Oh, that's your brand.
No, no, no, thanks, tom.
(11:51):
Yeah, I know, thanks, tom,that's my brand, that's your
drink.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Oh man, that's.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I don't know.
I'm more like a vodka personyeah, yeah, that's Thai whiskey
aka rum yeah aka rum.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It's good.
You know, I tried it because soI'm living here right and I
don't want to spend that much ondrinks so.
I tried to mix it with everypossible mixer.
I tried the fucking nippo.
I tried to mix it with everypossible mixer.
I tried the fucking lipo.
I tried the Red Bull.
I tried the Schweppes.
I tried the Coke.
(12:28):
Did you try apple juice?
I cannot drink apple juice.
That's the best comment.
I have a story about it if youwant to hear.
So.
When I was like 15 or 16, meand my friend wanted to get
drunk and we had a party andeveryone like it was already
five in the morning, everyonewas already drunk and me and my
other friend we had a one literbottle of close bottle of the
(12:52):
shittiest tequila you can buy.
So back then it cost like oneand a half dollar a liter
Nothing, yeah, and a two literbottle of apple juice.
So we took one liter out, weput the tequila in, we drank all
that and since then I cannotdrink apple juice like I will
throw up immediately because wehad the worst.
(13:13):
Yeah, it was so much.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, it's like I can't drink.
Like crack it now you don'thave like any alcohol.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You cannot drink because you it made you throw up
.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So much before no.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Really, oh no, I don't really have that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
No, I have something that I really, really don't like
, but if I have to drink it, Iactually can.
I can, but I would be like soapple juice?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Apple juice I cannot, but I tried everything else.
I even tried with tomato juice.
Okay, I'm not joking, because Ithought sangsom is not tasty
and tomato juice is like verydelicious in my opinion.
In my opinion, sorry, andtomato juice is very strong in
its taste so I thought even thatwill be better.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
No, Because, from my opinion too, samsung for me can
go only with the apple juice.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
The best.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So I cannot drink it.
That's the problem.
So I I tried.
Normally I drink all vodkashweps.
Now or when I feel like a pussy, I drink like a Smiley Vice,
which is, by the way, so cheapnow in the bars it uses 100 baht
, really yeah, no.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I don't see 100 Delirious is 100 baht well, I
mean, every Dray Gong Shai Kungis a lot cheaper 69 is 120 baht,
which is still okay.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
120 is kind of, which is still okay, yeah 120 is kind
of.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
120 is cheap for a spring off.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I thought yeah, so, and if I drink, let's say, vodka
, schweppes, manal, it wouldcost me 150.
So those are my drinks rightnow.
I wish I can drink Samsung.
For how much do you pay?
80 baht, 80 baht, yeah, I usedto the drinks.
Right now, I wish I can drinksangson for like how much you
pay?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
80 baht.
Yeah, I used the bar.
I used to go to all the time.
Uh, every day it was like 50baht even if I speak, it's like
46, 90 buttons, that's.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's good price, the ones I got.
Maybe I need someone to forceme.
You know like I paying for you,you can learn anything else.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I'll work in the bar you know I was you know, with
what we can try today with grassoh, I heard you say with grass.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I thought you meant like okay, yeah, yeah, sorry,
sorry my fault, not your fault.
Okay, I will try today again,but last time when I tried it it
was in epic bar.
You know epic bar, yeah it'sjust like you know, okay, you
know epic, but no, you don'tknow, so that's good for you.
(15:54):
Epic bar is a bar that juststarts to get people around five
in the morning it's near soexcited you know so excited.
Just start to get people aroundfive in the morning.
It's near so excited.
You know so excited.
Okay, so it's near so excitedand it just start to get people
(16:16):
in five in the morning.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
People stay there until noon to.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I guess that's a fun.
Everyone is already drunk.
There are some problems aboutthis bar which I cannot disclose
right now on the camera, butit's a very cheap bar and all
the drunk people like it's a mixright, they don't have stuff by
their own.
So all the ladies and ladyboysand the drunk farangs coming
(16:39):
back from juju and just want toplay pool basically it's a small
bar it's the drunk Farangscoming back from Juju and just
want to play pool.
Basically it's a small bar,it's not big but aircon, so it's
nice and we go there a lot.
So I'm the only one thatactually not drinking, that
actually drinking expensivealcohol over there.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Everyone just sang some and beer.
I don't know how expensive itis.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, sang some and beer, Sang some and beer.
And I'm like, can I have vodkaSchweppes?
And everyone look at me, oh,he's got money, you know,
because it's a cheap place.
It is a cheap place.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And most people just drink the sangsom.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
You should try it one time.
This place, it's a nice place,you don't agree?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
It's an interesting spot, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, but sometimes I used to wake up at 9 in the
morning.
I have nothing to do.
I go at Big Bar.
I know there will be peopleover there.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, there's always people there.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, so my problem with there is, like what kind of
other things people do there inthe toilet, because I try to
avoid it.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Okay, we don't have to say that.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, it's a known thing.
Yeah, it's very known, yeah, soI try to avoid it, but this is
one of the best spots for themorning and I'm surprised I
never saw you there.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I try my best not to go.
Usually by the time it's night,in the morning it's probably
time to pack it in.
For me, sun comes out.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Now I understand your eye color you're a fucking Sun
comes out, I go home.
Oh no, Now I understand youreye color.
You're a fucking vampire.
Well, this is just acoincidence.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I just wanted to make a funny comment but yeah, no,
it's a good color.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Fam was supposed to wear one today, but she forgot.
I forgot.
Yeah, yesterday she came like avampire.
Really.
Everyone like it was nice.
Even Michelle was teasing himabout it.
So now you're staying here.
How do you know Eli?
Just from the street.
It's a matter of time.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, we have this group.
Okay, a while ago now, andthere is something between you
guys, I can say we made the firmbecause he's one of the people
when we start to open it want toopen a new firm.
He's one of the group friends.
He's helping on the design,designing the logo and stuff
(19:16):
like that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Okay, so you're a logo designer.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So he's part of the designer.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, I do push it on site.
Okay, so he's also part of thedesigner.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, I do push it on site.
Okay, so he's also part of thebuilder group.
Started group.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I understand.
So this is how you know eachother.
Yes, and now you start hangingout.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
It was a while before that, actually before that,
before the bar.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No, no, it's in the same time that they try to
recruit you.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I don't know.
It was one time earlier.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, okay, like two years no.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
No, like a year.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Like a year A year and a bit yeah, so not that long
.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And now you're hanging out in the same room.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Okay, and you woke up at Hell's Sofa today.
If I understood correctly, youslept at Hell's no we didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I went in the same house.
Oh, you are living together.
Yeah, we are housemates Really.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yes, oh, how many other people are there?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I don't know just one , but not home right now, so
it's just me and her.
Okay, so you've met before.
Yeah, I've.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Not a good one.
Okay, so I'm the only one thatnever met you.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I don't want to say anything, so you can see.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
No, no, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
No, I'm happy to know New people, yeah yeah, yeah,
that's good, I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I'm trying to adjust myself to understand the
situation.
So you are living together,yeah, for okay, you are a
roommate, okay, no, no, I'm not.
You're a roommate, yeah, andlike two bedrooms four bedrooms,
house two floor four bedrooms.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Actually, it's not really four bedrooms, I feel
like, because the one that hechoose it's like a cave.
He like it because it's darkand it's like I think that one
is supposed to be a storage room, but I need to throw the bed in
.
This is my cave, the dungeon,there's no window on it.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
It's right in the back of the house, so it's like
there's no sun exposed to theroom anyway, I feel like I'm
rendering the vampire.
It's great, oh I sleep in theday so it's Well, I sleep in the
day, so it's like really dark,this light over here that shines
on, you are you.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Okay, your skin is hot.
It's hot Besides that.
Okay, and before we had a smallchat, like I know, if you don't
want to say I can't cut itlater, but also you're part of
the same, like want to say I cancut it later, but also you're
part of the same, like I willsay, community, because the
ladyboy community is not onlypeople that go with ladyboys,
but actually that know the guys,so you're also part of it.
(21:51):
I never met you anywhere, soit's surprising.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
We talked about it, but I used to go to the striker
all the time we stay out thereoften.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That was a while ago.
The first experience with I'mnot mean only fucking, just
knowing Ladyboys was here inThailand.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
No, it was back home.
I knew friends and stuff backhome yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Okay, Well, you're from California, so it's more
open over there.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Quite a friend of me, you knowthey went through their whole
thing.
That was online for more thananything.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But yeah, okay, I want to play, play games and
stuff.
Okay, so you're morecomfortable, like not more, but
you're comfortable enough, like,to not consider them as like,
oh, let's just not no because no, because we we had this from
before that something like no,like they see them as a kaboom
thing or fetish even, which iskind of weird.
(22:43):
They don't even see the personbehind it.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, I don't know that one is a bit too bigotty to
be like oh, you're a little boy, oh you're a little boy, yeah,
but for foreigners, especiallyif more conservative countries,
(23:08):
right, yeah, yeah, especiallyimmediately for them, like I can
.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I can tell you a very interesting story happened to
me three days ago.
So I was in 69 and it was likealmost four in the morning, the
bar had people, so they keep,yeah, and there was some drunk
guy who like wandering aroundthe street and they saw, okay,
the one guy, let's pull him in.
And he was like completelyclueless, like wandering around
the street and they saw, okay,the one guy, let's pull him in.
And he was like completelyclueless.
He would just, oh, I'm in aball, okay, and he having a
drink with a lady boy which isvery, very feminine, yeah, where
(23:34):
a newbie wouldn't be able totell yeah, and he's from like UK
, it's his first time inThailand, he came two days ago
and he's there like sitting, andall of a sudden I start here
screaming what the fuck, whatthe fuck, no way, no way.
I knew already what happened andI wanted to make sure you know,
some of them can turnaggressive.
(23:55):
Luckily he wasn't, he was niceabout it, but he was like he was
so shocked.
And then I called him to mytable and say, okay, sit here, I
will explain to you what'sgoing on, because you are a bit
drunk, yeah, so this is aladyboy bar.
Wait, wait, all of themladyboys.
Yeah, this one ladyboy, thisone, like he asked me and then,
(24:18):
like he tried to calm down, eventake one of the ladyboys hand
like kiss her, to show me thathe's okay with that.
I say, brother, don't worry, noone will rape you.
Like just drink your drink,enjoy your time.
Like yeah.
And then one of the ladyboysthere, she's like more
aggressive than everyone, so shejust pulled her cock out and
started like doing these twothings and he was like he
(24:42):
couldn't take his eyes off hercock, but it's still like he was
so scared.
I saw like he was sure he'sgoing to get raped and I tried
to tell him no one will rape youhere.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
You need to pay money in order to make someone rape
you.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, so and well, it depends on the situation, but I
have a story about it also, ifyou want, but maybe better to
say it off camera.
So he was there for about fivehours no, not five hours.
Three hours Around.
Yeah, around seven.
We fucked off the next day.
(25:20):
He sent a message when are wegoing again?
When we fucked off the next day, he sent a message when are we
going again?
When are we going?
He enjoyed it so much.
The environment, theenvironment and I.
I keep telling it to peoplethat don't know go to Ladyboy
bars.
It's so much more fun thanLadyboy bars.
Yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry, noneed to be sorry.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'm agree, it's fun, more energy it's craziness, the
craziness of it.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
You know, it's like I explained it to my friend the
other day.
They are acting like five yearno, not five like 12 year old
boys.
What do I mean?
They're always grabbing eachother like they're fucking,
always like smacking each otherballs.
You know taking each otherballs.
You know taking each othershirt, just rubbing the hair.
(26:04):
It's like 12 year old boysplaying with each other you know
?
Yeah, so it's fun.
It's fun to look String ofwords, what?
Now?
Okay, I'm not mean in thepedophile, I mean how they act.
Yeah, know how they look.
Most of them look much betterthan even the ladies.
They look pretty vulnerable.
Yeah, most of them look muchbetter than even the ladies.
(26:25):
And he was so shocked she likepulled her tits out, the other
one and she has one of the besttits in Pattaya.
It's a known lady boy.
I will not say her name if youwant I tell you later the best
tits in Pattaya.
And she was like and he waslike can I touch, you can do
whatever you want like veryscared the best teeth in Padre
and she was like and he was likecan I touch?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I said you can do whatever you want and he was
like that, Like very scared totouch, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, I don't know what he thought will happen, but
it was my first timeexperiencing someone that new.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah Well, I mean, I was used to seeing all the new
ones very often, but guys getthe same way, even with the
girls they're like I don't know,can I?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
usually do, guys that I knew that go with the girls.
They're like I had a story, Itold it before.
I will not repeat it, but manyof the my friends that came here
to visit me or we went togetherhere before they were so
aggressive with the ladies.
Oh, they were aggressiveBecause in their mind, oh, it's
(27:29):
post-its, like I can do whateverI want, yeah, and I told them
like no, brother, what are youdoing?
You, brother, what are youdoing?
You cannot like.
I will just give you an example.
So we he went to a bar in Soi 6.
We went there together.
We've been there for an hour.
I bought drinks for me and forthe lady that was sitting with
me right of course she didn'tbuy, bought a drink for his lady
(27:52):
but immediately tried to fingerher and stuff like that.
You know what the fuck are youdoing.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
He doesn't get how it works, yeah if I say the
customer doing like that to mylady I always say if they not
give you the drink, don't go tothe table of course, except they
call you in for the drink, thenokay no, you can come say hello
yeah, if they play like tooaggressive, I will go in right
away, just like please be alittle bit gentle so I told him
(28:17):
listen, you cannot do that.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And we moved a few bars, every bar.
He did that and then I justsaid no, I'm going.
He was 29 back then and then Ijust left.
I tell him I'm not staying withyou if you're acting like that.
Ok, fuck off, you can go.
Called me an hour later.
He had a black eye already,like someone punched him.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
he was looking for trouble, is what it sounds like,
and he found trouble.
That's the only time you findtrouble in this town, anyway, if
you're looking for it.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, but I'm just trying to say I never
experienced and you guys thatcome here are afraid of the
girls.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I've seen it plenty of times.
Usually the aggressive oneslike that.
They're usually like youngenglish guys, stuff like that.
They're always okay.
Yeah, but there is the stigma,there is the stigma against the
english guys here, which also I.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I think it's like maybe a cultural thing, that
they also consider everyone hereas a prostitute maybe, and they
think immediately.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I think this is true.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Like I never consider anyone as a prostitute.
Yeah, you are having sex formoney, but like that's Thailand.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
You're not a prostitute.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
This is just like like back home.
I'm saying, oh, I'm a webdesigner.
Oh, yeah, I work at the barhere.
You know, it's so normal here,yeah that's right.
So you cannot consider them asprostitutes as you think back
home, which, back home, ofcourse, they are more like yeah,
you go with the prostitute,it's to finger her, fuck her,
whatever.
Here it's different.
Here you have more thegirlfriend experience, would you
(29:47):
agree?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, it can be.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You can buy anything you want, really yeah but not
just like you buy one drink andthen you can just choke her to
almost date or like slap her assuntil it bruises, like that's
what I'm talking about.
Yeah, those are the people thatget too rowdy, yeah if you want
to do that?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
just go to a ladyboy bar.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, it's usually young guys.
They get too rowdy.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
The old guys never do that.
The old guys are just lookingfor the young girls normally,
which is also disgusting.
But okay, no, I mean like 60old guy with someone at her age
is not disgusting, you don'tagree with that?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
They're at the end of the road.
I'm doing whatever they want.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I still have another guy look, Maybe he's still
looking good but it's not me.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
She's asking what he looks like.
She said I understand.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I understand exactly what you're saying.
I'm going to counter her theaverage looking six-year-old guy
that's coming to Padre.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Oh, I don't see one more handsome yet, of course of
course not.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
They are normally overweight.
Back home no one really looksat them, or they are divorced.
You know exactly which guys I'mtalking about.
And then you see them hangingout with the most beautiful girl
or lady boy that you ever seenhell yeah, oh yeah, that's
generous, can't hear that?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
hell yeah, I can't hear that in a row my ex, my ex,
yeah, he's, he's, he gets agood one that we kind of he's
enjoying all those days beingkind of jealous of it, you know
wait, let's separate things,okay.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'm not talking taking health for a short time.
I'm talking about getting intorelationship with health.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, weird, I know most of the girls are jealous
jealous, weird Most of the girlsare jealous.
I'm not jealous.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I'm not jealous on the lady that get a guy, I'm
jealous on the guy that get abeautiful one.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Really.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And then the guy usually has money.
The girl is well off.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I should change my perspective.
Probably.
I don't think it's an issue.
When I met my ex, she was oneyear younger than me, which was
okay, you know, and we knew thesame things.
We have like things in common.
How old are you Now?
I'm 39, 30.
I'll tell you that 29, almost30.
(32:07):
Let's say she was 29.
Yeah, she was also working in abar in Svevokau.
We met each other.
Then we moved to Buriramtogether for a while, then Korat
for a while, and then we movedto Buriram together for a while,
then Korat for a while, andthen we moved to Israel and we
stayed.
She's still there, like, yeah,and I'm here.
So she's still there.
Yeah, she's working.
(32:28):
She's like actually a prettyknown chef in Israel, okay, thai
chef before she knew nothing.
Like she came to Israel, sheThai chef, thai Before she knew
nothing.
Like she came to Israel, shelike you tell her how to fry an
egg.
It was difficult for her.
And then one of my friends owna restaurant, a Thai restaurant,
and no Thai people work there.
So I asked him listen, likesomeone is coming to stay with
(32:52):
me, like she's kind of mygirlfriend back then Can you
give her a job?
He say yeah, yeah, she have apermit.
I say, yeah, she haveeverything.
Okay, every day for threemonths.
I'm going to kick her out.
She don't know how to work.
I'm going to kick her out.
She don't know how to work.
Say, give her a chance.
Give her three months, please.
Three months, he call me.
(33:13):
I want to that like she's thebest walker I have.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, yeah no, it's like they work when they when
they work, yeah, when they likelike thai people, they work good
.
Well, I mean, yeah, they showup, they wake up they like to
sleep.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I mean, otherwise I don't know, I don't care.
Yeah, I will not hire you foranything if you wake up at 10,
30, but you know well it worksout here.
Everything's at night up at1030,.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
But you know Well it works out here.
Everything's at night.
You know what?
I agree, it's a night town.
Yeah, it is a night town.
I like it too, because I wasalways the same schedule back
home.
I was always up late, late.
I've always been up at night.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
What's your occupation back home?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I did a bunch of different stuff back home.
Last thing before I left, I wasbreeding dogs.
Okay, what kind of dogs?
French Bulldog Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, okay, I did that for a while before I did a
bunch of stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
So you can make money out of dog breeding.
Yeah, yeah, really good money.
It depends what kind of breed,depends what kind of dog.
But like French Bulldog is likea trendy breed where they were
at the time, especiallysomething that you can do here.
Oh yeah, there's people do here, okay, don't make as much money
, like we're making money backhome.
But like now it's like it'sshifting the different breeds
(34:30):
stuff.
You know that's more like microbullies and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
My friend used to have a female Bull Terrier Bull
Terrier which is a very populardog in Israel.
Like those dogs, yeah, theproblem with them is that they
have a very short life, veryshort life, like eight years,
nine years maximum, and they die.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah, the French bull terrier still exactly live the
longest Because you know they're.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, I know they still exactly live the longest
they because you know they're.
Yeah, I know she was becauseshe was a female.
So he used to get like he needto find like another dog to like
breed with her.
Yeah, and you give the owner ofthe male dog one of the puppies
and he keep all the otherpuppies.
This is the deal.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
That's a pump back deal.
Yeah, so yeah, that's commonthe puppies.
This is the deal.
That's a pump back deal.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, okay, it's common and they sell for, let's
say, $1,000 each.
Our source is way more thanthat.
Yeah, but he don't have anylike documents about her.
She's pure and everything, butno documents.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
The documents are what makes it.
Yeah, you need to have thepapers how much like a bull
terrier.
Go back there a bull terrier Ihave no idea, I don't know.
Okay, french bulldog, oh,french bulldog.
Uh, it depends, could be fromthree to eight to twelve.
Yeah, wow, depends, dependsfully on the genetics and how
(35:55):
long you keep the puppy beforeyou give it.
You try to get rid of it aboutlike three-ish months, okay, so
after you get rid of them assoon as you can like, as soon as
they're done off the mom, offthe mush, then you're good, okay
, and you can sell them.
That's interesting, of course,the sooner you sell them, the
better, because there's no, yousaid you have, you had
(36:15):
experience in like designingalso.
Yeah, yeah I do a, I didquestions for it, I used to
shirts and I did a skateboarddecks and stuff okay so you're
just a hustler.
You do whatever you can do youknow, I do everything,
everything besides a normal job.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You're a hustler, no I'm not talking about no, I mean
like I do like a lot of thestuff, like yeah, but he's like
doing side jobs.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
You know it's not like main things Breeding dog,
doing some no, they're not mainthings.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I'll do anything as long as yeah, but they are
considered Exactly, they areconsidered side stuff, you know
For sure.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Like if I would tell you oh yeah, what you're doing,
I I don't even have an idea, butsomething like that way off of
the normal, like occupation youknow I actually that's what I
want to do too, like after Iquit my my the work with the
Muay Thai camp.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
you know that's that's my main goal to do the
just freelance, to do everythingonline.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Do you know the website Fiverr?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I actually look on the app work.
Okay, app work and Phil'sauthor, I don't remember the
name.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
So in Fiverr you can do whatever you want.
You know, fiverr you can dowhatever you want.
Over there you just publish Ican do this, this, this, this,
this, whatever, anything you canimagine, people will pay for
and it starts for $5 and peopleit depends on the job even
hundreds of dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Fiverr, Fiverr yeah, yeah, do you know what it is?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
no, I already I recommended it a few times, but
here they don't know it likeit's, very like they don't know
this kind of I guess it's moreof an Indian thing.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I feel like, yeah, yeah that whole area.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
No, like I was looking for a promoter back then
to this, yeah, 99% of themBangladeshi.
So good no, yeah, I was gonnaassume they told in their bio.
They said we can get you fakeviews.
I said what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I don't want a fake view, though.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, that kind of stuff yeah, no, sorry, I didn't
use them like I don't want, like.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I don't think there's really.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
It doesn't really make sense to me to get fake
views, fake followers, stufflike that yeah, because you like
, you do the, you want the realpeople to like, you know, you
know that you need the realpeople also.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
This kind of like thing that we are doing now
really depend of people thatwill support you.
So if you are talking patreonand stuff, yeah, of course and
fake views don't give youanything.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, so ego thing I feel like for most people to do
it, it's like a to show that Ihave.
I'm in LA.
It's like, okay, you've got1,000 people watching the video.
So it's like where are thesemillion people?
I don't know.
Yeah, and I show it up again.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
if you're waiting to get the money let's say you're
counting on getting the moneyfrom YouTube ads you will never
get anything out of this.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
You need real viewership, so yeah, for sure,
you need people to interact withit.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
So because we started a bit late, we have to make it
short episodes, but I would likeyou to come again.
Okay, yes, we will find anothertime that we can do a full
episode, because I still knowyou got new know nothing about
me.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I have to ask you more.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Next time you will ask me more questions.
We can do an intimate episodeand you can learn about me,
because I think my audience, ouraudience, don't really know me
well.
I did a few solo episodes.
They don't know you well.
No, because there is reasonswhy I cannot share too much and
(40:03):
what I can share.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
We all have reasons.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, I have more than others.
I can tell you later and thosereasons may like I cannot tell
everything about myself.
But whatever you want to ask,you can ask, and if not, I can
edit out next time.
Okay, so any wording.
Whatever you want to ask, youcan ask, and if not, I can edit
out next time.
Okay, so any wording, somethingyou want to say?
Speaker 2 (40:24):
No again.
I'm still waiting for thecomment from my future husband.
We got few, but we got fewalready.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
We got few already, but I want we reach at least 20
before I show you, so you get to, she gets a pick, yeah, yeah,
but she won't.
She actually asked for dicks.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I did not.
Actually, you say like don'tsend, but I say like I don't
mind that means you asked fordick pics.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
You also said add measurements.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
You said that no, I mean, if you don't even explain
it, then you put like actual,like you know proper way, you
know proper way, you know.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
It's like when I used to be to like go fishing and if
I got a fish, how would I showmy friends it's a big fish.
Just put a pack of cigarettenext to it, because everyone
knows the size of a pack ofcigarette.
And then, okay, one, two, three, four, five packs of cigarette.
Okay, it's a nice fish, someasure your cock with a pack of
cigarettes.
Thank you guys for listeningagain.
(41:21):
Patreon, please check it out,it helps and like subscribe.
You know the deal.
I'm tired of saying it, likeeveryone else, but thank you
very much for watching.
See you next time.
Femme, thank you for sittinghere and being beautiful.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Bye, guys thank you bye.
Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife
Podcast.
I'm Mike.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Ellie, how are you doing Good?
We have two guests today.
We have the beautiful Pham hereagain.
Pham, this time you have to letus speak, right?
Yeah?
And we have Kat.
How are you doing Good?
So you're a friend with Ellie,yeah, I know nothing about you.
No, and I insist to knownothing about you.
No, and I insist not to knownothing about you.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, but I didn't even tell him who I'm going to
invite.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, I will tell him as our audience meets you.
Oh good, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So give me the basics.
Where are you from?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm from California.
I'm a cat from California.
Been here.
What three and a half years DTB.
No border runs most years, butnot anymore DTB okay.
Now my visa, now my education,oh education, okay, perfect.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
What are you learning ?
Thai?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Supposedly apparently .
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You are learning Three and a half years.
I will surprise if you cannotspeak any Thai.
Thai, yeah, supposedly,apparently, you are learning
Three and a half years.
I will surprise if you cannotspeak any Thai.
Nothing, really A little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'll leave you and speak Thai in the back room.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, yeah, I'll leave you in the back room.
Close the bar.
You're wearing the bar, believeme.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I stayed with my ex-wife for eight years.
Most the Thai language and theIsan language I got from her are
like bad words, Like I know allthe bad words.
Yeah, yeah, that's all I knowAll the worst shit.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
you could say, okay, what brought you here?
I actually wasn't supposed tocome here.
I originally was in Japanbefore COVID, so I went home
during it.
How long were you in Japan?
I was there for like fivemonths.
I was going to go back, I waswaiting to go back.
(01:58):
I was going nuts back home justsitting around.
You know, right after COVID Iwas like all right, what's open,
like right now?
Oh, thailand's open, okay, cool.
And I left.
Like two weeks later I didn'tknow anything about it.
I just came, okay, straight toPattaya.
No Bangkok, I was in Bangkokfor like the first six, seven
months.
Just Bangkok.
Like I loved it.
(02:19):
It was great.
It's just better.
It's more dirty.
Japan, essentially, is all.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I don't know.
I never been to Japan and I'mtelling everyone like it's my
dream, I know I can do it.
I used to know that beforeCOVID, before COVID, I can go
there.
But like I'm a real foodie youcan see that but I'm a real
foodie and like Japan is likeJapanese food is like high tier.
(02:44):
For me it's the best thing itwas good.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Everything I had there was good.
I mean it was all cheap too,Like people say it's expensive
and shit Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And how, like you came to Thailand, you stay there
.
You stay in Bangkok for sixmonths.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, and then I was coming to Thailand to visit,
like on the weekends or whatever.
I'd come over, okay, and then Ijust ended up staying and
staying and worked in the barand all this don't say that I
will delete it later.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
No for you, oh for you.
I'm trying to make sure youdon't have any problems.
Like you know, it's illegal.
Oh so you visited the bar?
Yeah, which bar you visited thebar?
Yeah, which bar you visited.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I was a frequent Frequent there in the bars
Soysauce, mostly.
You know around there which bar, which one was your main bar.
I started hanging out mostly atGoodfellas Okay, that was like
a while ago, yeah and I did,like you know, nightwish and the
(03:47):
whole round circuit and allthat.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It was fun and like by hanging out with the bar.
This is your main income.
Yeah, okay, so you're makingshit money.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
basically, that's being no money, making nothing.
You leave with what you can Ihave a friend.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He was applying to become a manager.
They offered him not inSolistix, in Soyedukey.
Okay, 30k Standard, yeah, plus5% if you reach 1.3 million.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
That's not too bad, though.
At least you get an offer of apercent.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Most of the time, you don't get anything.
That's really not the case atthe same time they should be
able to make 1.3.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's not the same as Well.
It depends what he's working on.
Is it a bar?
It's a small bar, One unit.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
One unit, a small bar , six ladies and a pool table in
the middle, which made it evensmaller.
No, everywhere there is a pooltable, but like it's hard, you
know it's really hard.
Yeah, it's a known bar.
I will not say the names, butthe owner have two bars and he
(04:57):
was looking like one next toeach other and he was looking
for a manager for one of them.
So, my friend, applied.
But he told me that he's notsure they will even pay the
percentage if even he reachedthat, because there is no
contract, there is nothing.
They rarely do.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They rarely do.
Yeah, and it's not.
Yeah, it's not uncommon, yeah,it's like 30K standard just
about nowadays, and then usuallyit's just 30 in commission.
Now, especially on soy steaks,just 30 on commission.
Really 30 on commission, yeah,which is nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Depends how many friends you have.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, you get drinks.
I mean, you get drinks everyday.
I was eating good drinks, butyou know the hangout it's.
Let's say, even if you make 100drinks every month, oh you make
more than that well, the issueis you're doing like 20-30 shots
a day, so you're killingyourself for like a grant you
(05:57):
try to make sure those shots arenot you gotta do the real shot.
The girls can cheat it, theguys can't cheat it.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
You don't think about what happened five years from
now.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
It's not exactly a long Thought process job.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Even me.
I don't cheat on the shot too.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You're a fucking alcoholic.
I'm joking.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
It's a joke, it's a perk that comes with the joke.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Come on, I'm joking, but I've, I've saw you know what
, because I've seen how drunkyou can get.
I know you are not alcoholic,because alcoholic don't get that
drunk, they just no, they justlike sleep before, like they
faint even before they reachthat point.
So you're not alcoholic yet youare just really like to drink.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh yeah, I just love it okay.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I'm not a big drinker , for example, like if I would
decide one day to be a frequentvisitor to a bar.
Let's say like that I will notdrink that much, like my main
income will not be thecommission over there which is
it has to be.
I mean, that's, that's how thejob is, it's just it's not good,
(07:15):
you know, there is a place thatwill not say the name online,
like when we are live.
I can tell you later.
But there is a place on soyboau that I know that is looking
for a manager.
It's a go-go and they're paying50 plus three percent without
any goal.
Wow, yeah, yeah, and it's a biggoogle, like it's always full.
(07:41):
But the the reason they aredoing it?
Because it's kind of a moneylaundering business and they
need a phone to guide.
That's how I want to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's how.
That's how.
That's how yeah I believe it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
You know which, which place I'm talking about.
So they pay a lot of moneybecause they want to make sure
they have someone that if theproblems will come, they can put
on him all the problems yeah,looking for the ghost yeah, so
it happens to people okay, soyou were, as we said, frequent
(08:16):
visit to bars.
You are still doing that.
No, so what?
I stopped a while ago?
Just no, what's your income now?
Like how I saw it a while ago?
No, what's your income now?
How do you make money?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Good question, that's it.
I'll let you know when I figureit out.
Okay, right now I'm justchilling right now.
Okay, but I do, is it?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
expensive to live here?
No, it's not.
It depends Also, especially forpeople that came from Western
countries and had some savings,especially for people that came
from like Western countries andhad some savings, like I guess
you can live here pretty goodaround, like if you have around
15K, I mean USD a year.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Oh easy, oh yeah, I live on less than that
comfortably, really Less thanthat.
Yeah, okay, I live, even if I'mmaking like when I'm making
money too, I live cheap.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Like how cheap.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
You have to ask him like what?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
his daily… daily….
Excuse me, host number two.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
You can ask him also.
Okay, so….
Speaker 2 (09:17):
No, because we are friends.
I was like whether you couldask because like… Okay, wait,
wait wait, I'll play your game.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I'll play your game, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I have a question for you, so I'm very interested you
know what is your daily routinelike.
How do you spend your days?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
ah, is it true?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
are you a shy guy?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
no, I'm not shy at all, it's just, you know, I wake
up at like 10 30pm pm.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
yeah, I go hang out with I was just going to give
him a compliment.
Wow, that's really early 10.30that's amazing.
I wish I would wake up everyday 10.30.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Then you set the PM and, like I, have a different
look at you and then I go andhang out in a spot close to my
house, kind of near 26 the girlsI know we go hang out.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, the girls stuff , I go and we go hang out,
friends of you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the girls and stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I go and we go hang out and it's oh, exposed the
place, it's already exposed.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Oh yeah, oh, you got the stalker I forgot.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Really you have a stalker.
Yeah, we will come to it later.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
But it's good, I go hang out there and we drink and
snack.
So yeah, I play games, play Uno, till morning and then I go
home and I go to bed.
That's his life.
That's especially the dailyroutine.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You're going to see him eat at like a little yeah,
but he's very skinny.
How old are you?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
29.
20?
, 29.
29.
Okay, so, yeah, he's very young, he's very skinny.
How old are you?
29, 20?
, 29, 29, okay.
So, yeah, he's very young, he'svery skinny.
I can see like you don't haveany like extra weight on you, so
no, no, I mean the only thingthat he's drinking alcohol.
That's the only like.
Yeah, it's good for you smoking, also smoking occasionally.
(11:20):
I'm not smoking cigarettes Weed, no Good, okay, no, I don't
smoke weed, okay, it's toostrong for me.
Now, really, the weed here?
Yeah, you came from California.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I know it's strong for me there too now I used to
smoke in school a half a puffand you're done and avoiding
everything, I try not to even Adrink.
I like to drink Really.
Yeah, so you even drink.
I'm repping the brand after all.
Oh, that's your brand.
No, no, no, thanks, tom.
(11:51):
Yeah, I know, thanks, tom,that's my brand, that's your
drink.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Oh man, that's.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I don't know.
I'm more like a vodka personyeah, yeah, that's Thai whiskey
aka rum yeah aka rum.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It's good.
You know, I tried it because soI'm living here right and I
don't want to spend that much ondrinks so.
I tried to mix it with everypossible mixer.
I tried the fucking nippo.
I tried to mix it with everypossible mixer.
I tried the fucking lipo.
I tried the Red Bull.
I tried the Schweppes.
I tried the Coke.
(12:28):
Did you try apple juice?
I cannot drink apple juice.
That's the best comment.
I have a story about it if youwant to hear.
So.
When I was like 15 or 16, meand my friend wanted to get
drunk and we had a party andeveryone like it was already
five in the morning, everyonewas already drunk and me and my
other friend we had a one literbottle of close bottle of the
(12:52):
shittiest tequila you can buy.
So back then it cost like oneand a half dollar a liter
Nothing, yeah, and a two literbottle of apple juice.
So we took one liter out, weput the tequila in, we drank all
that and since then I cannotdrink apple juice like I will
throw up immediately because wehad the worst.
(13:13):
Yeah, it was so much.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, it's like I can't drink.
Like crack it now you don'thave like any alcohol.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You cannot drink because you it made you throw up
.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So much before no.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Really, oh no, I don't really have that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
No, I have something that I really, really don't like
, but if I have to drink it, Iactually can.
I can, but I would be like soapple juice?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Apple juice I cannot, but I tried everything else.
I even tried with tomato juice.
Okay, I'm not joking, because Ithought sangsom is not tasty
and tomato juice is like verydelicious in my opinion.
In my opinion, sorry, andtomato juice is very strong in
its taste so I thought even thatwill be better.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
No, Because, from my opinion too, samsung for me can
go only with the apple juice.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
The best.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So I cannot drink it.
That's the problem.
So I I tried.
Normally I drink all vodkashweps.
Now or when I feel like a pussy, I drink like a Smiley Vice,
which is, by the way, so cheapnow in the bars it uses 100 baht
, really yeah, no.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I don't see 100 Delirious is 100 baht well, I
mean, every Dray Gong Shai Kungis a lot cheaper 69 is 120 baht,
which is still okay.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
120 is kind of, which is still okay, yeah 120 is kind
of.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
120 is cheap for a spring off.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I thought yeah, so, and if I drink, let's say, vodka
, schweppes, manal, it wouldcost me 150.
So those are my drinks rightnow.
I wish I can drink Samsung.
For how much do you pay?
80 baht, 80 baht, yeah, I usedto the drinks.
Right now, I wish I can drinksangson for like how much you
pay?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
80 baht.
Yeah, I used the bar.
I used to go to all the time.
Uh, every day it was like 50baht even if I speak, it's like
46, 90 buttons, that's.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's good price, the ones I got.
Maybe I need someone to forceme.
You know like I paying for you,you can learn anything else.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I'll work in the bar you know I was you know, with
what we can try today with grassoh, I heard you say with grass.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I thought you meant like okay, yeah, yeah, sorry,
sorry my fault, not your fault.
Okay, I will try today again,but last time when I tried it it
was in epic bar.
You know epic bar, yeah it'sjust like you know, okay, you
know epic, but no, you don'tknow, so that's good for you.
(15:54):
Epic bar is a bar that juststarts to get people around five
in the morning it's near soexcited you know so excited.
Just start to get people aroundfive in the morning.
It's near so excited.
You know so excited.
Okay, so it's near so excitedand it just start to get people
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in five in the morning.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
People stay there until noon to.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I guess that's a fun.
Everyone is already drunk.
There are some problems aboutthis bar which I cannot disclose
right now on the camera, butit's a very cheap bar and all
the drunk people like it's a mixright, they don't have stuff by
their own.
So all the ladies and ladyboysand the drunk farangs coming
(16:39):
back from juju and just want toplay pool basically it's a small
bar it's the drunk Farangscoming back from Juju and just
want to play pool.
Basically it's a small bar,it's not big but aircon, so it's
nice and we go there a lot.
So I'm the only one thatactually not drinking, that
actually drinking expensivealcohol over there.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Everyone just sang some and beer.
I don't know how expensive itis.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, sang some and beer, Sang some and beer.
And I'm like, can I have vodkaSchweppes?
And everyone look at me, oh,he's got money, you know,
because it's a cheap place.
It is a cheap place.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And most people just drink the sangsom.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
You should try it one time.
This place, it's a nice place,you don't agree?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
It's an interesting spot, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, but sometimes I used to wake up at 9 in the
morning.
I have nothing to do.
I go at Big Bar.
I know there will be peopleover there.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, there's always people there.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, so my problem with there is, like what kind of
other things people do there inthe toilet, because I try to
avoid it.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Okay, we don't have to say that.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, it's a known thing.
Yeah, it's very known, yeah, soI try to avoid it, but this is
one of the best spots for themorning and I'm surprised I
never saw you there.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I try my best not to go.
Usually by the time it's night,in the morning it's probably
time to pack it in.
For me, sun comes out.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Now I understand your eye color you're a fucking Sun
comes out, I go home.
Oh no, Now I understand youreye color.
You're a fucking vampire.
Well, this is just acoincidence.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I just wanted to make a funny comment but yeah, no,
it's a good color.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Fam was supposed to wear one today, but she forgot.
I forgot.
Yeah, yesterday she came like avampire.
Really.
Everyone like it was nice.
Even Michelle was teasing himabout it.
So now you're staying here.
How do you know Eli?
Just from the street.
It's a matter of time.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, we have this group.
Okay, a while ago now, andthere is something between you
guys, I can say we made the firmbecause he's one of the people
when we start to open it want toopen a new firm.
He's one of the group friends.
He's helping on the design,designing the logo and stuff
(19:16):
like that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Okay, so you're a logo designer.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So he's part of the designer.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, I do push it on site.
Okay, so he's also part of thedesigner.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, I do push it on site.
Okay, so he's also part of thebuilder group.
Started group.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I understand.
So this is how you know eachother.
Yes, and now you start hangingout.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
It was a while before that, actually before that,
before the bar.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No, no, it's in the same time that they try to
recruit you.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I don't know.
It was one time earlier.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, okay, like two years no.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
No, like a year.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Like a year A year and a bit yeah, so not that long
.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And now you're hanging out in the same room.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Okay, and you woke up at Hell's Sofa today.
If I understood correctly, youslept at Hell's no we didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I went in the same house.
Oh, you are living together.
Yeah, we are housemates Really.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yes, oh, how many other people are there?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I don't know just one , but not home right now, so
it's just me and her.
Okay, so you've met before.
Yeah, I've.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Not a good one.
Okay, so I'm the only one thatnever met you.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I don't want to say anything, so you can see.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
No, no, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
No, I'm happy to know New people, yeah yeah, yeah,
that's good, I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I'm trying to adjust myself to understand the
situation.
So you are living together,yeah, for okay, you are a
roommate, okay, no, no, I'm not.
You're a roommate, yeah, andlike two bedrooms four bedrooms,
house two floor four bedrooms.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Actually, it's not really four bedrooms, I feel
like, because the one that hechoose it's like a cave.
He like it because it's darkand it's like I think that one
is supposed to be a storage room, but I need to throw the bed in
.
This is my cave, the dungeon,there's no window on it.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
It's right in the back of the house, so it's like
there's no sun exposed to theroom anyway, I feel like I'm
rendering the vampire.
It's great, oh I sleep in theday so it's Well, I sleep in the
day, so it's like really dark,this light over here that shines
on, you are you.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Okay, your skin is hot.
It's hot Besides that.
Okay, and before we had a smallchat, like I know, if you don't
want to say I can't cut itlater, but also you're part of
the same, like want to say I cancut it later, but also you're
part of the same, like I willsay, community, because the
ladyboy community is not onlypeople that go with ladyboys,
but actually that know the guys,so you're also part of it.
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I never met you anywhere, soit's surprising.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
We talked about it, but I used to go to the striker
all the time we stay out thereoften.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That was a while ago.
The first experience with I'mnot mean only fucking, just
knowing Ladyboys was here inThailand.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
No, it was back home.
I knew friends and stuff backhome yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Okay, Well, you're from California, so it's more
open over there.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Quite a friend of me, you knowthey went through their whole
thing.
That was online for more thananything.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But yeah, okay, I want to play, play games and
stuff.
Okay, so you're morecomfortable, like not more, but
you're comfortable enough, like,to not consider them as like,
oh, let's just not no because no, because we we had this from
before that something like no,like they see them as a kaboom
thing or fetish even, which iskind of weird.
(22:43):
They don't even see the personbehind it.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, I don't know that one is a bit too bigotty to
be like oh, you're a little boy, oh you're a little boy, yeah,
but for foreigners, especiallyif more conservative countries,
(23:08):
right, yeah, yeah, especiallyimmediately for them, like I can
.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I can tell you a very interesting story happened to
me three days ago.
So I was in 69 and it was likealmost four in the morning, the
bar had people, so they keep,yeah, and there was some drunk
guy who like wandering aroundthe street and they saw, okay,
the one guy, let's pull him in.
And he was like completelyclueless, like wandering around
the street and they saw, okay,the one guy, let's pull him in.
And he was like completelyclueless.
He would just, oh, I'm in aball, okay, and he having a
drink with a lady boy which isvery, very feminine, yeah, where
(23:34):
a newbie wouldn't be able totell yeah, and he's from like UK
, it's his first time inThailand, he came two days ago
and he's there like sitting, andall of a sudden I start here
screaming what the fuck, whatthe fuck, no way, no way.
I knew already what happened andI wanted to make sure you know,
some of them can turnaggressive.
(23:55):
Luckily he wasn't, he was niceabout it, but he was like he was
so shocked.
And then I called him to mytable and say, okay, sit here, I
will explain to you what'sgoing on, because you are a bit
drunk, yeah, so this is aladyboy bar.
Wait, wait, all of themladyboys.
Yeah, this one ladyboy, thisone, like he asked me and then,
(24:18):
like he tried to calm down, eventake one of the ladyboys hand
like kiss her, to show me thathe's okay with that.
I say, brother, don't worry, noone will rape you.
Like just drink your drink,enjoy your time.
Like yeah.
And then one of the ladyboysthere, she's like more
aggressive than everyone, so shejust pulled her cock out and
started like doing these twothings and he was like he
(24:42):
couldn't take his eyes off hercock, but it's still like he was
so scared.
I saw like he was sure he'sgoing to get raped and I tried
to tell him no one will rape youhere.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
You need to pay money in order to make someone rape
you.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, so and well, it depends on the situation, but I
have a story about it also, ifyou want, but maybe better to
say it off camera.
So he was there for about fivehours no, not five hours.
Three hours Around.
Yeah, around seven.
We fucked off the next day.
(25:20):
He sent a message when are wegoing again?
When we fucked off the next day, he sent a message when are we
going again?
When are we going?
He enjoyed it so much.
The environment, theenvironment and I.
I keep telling it to peoplethat don't know go to Ladyboy
bars.
It's so much more fun thanLadyboy bars.
Yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry, noneed to be sorry.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'm agree, it's fun, more energy it's craziness, the
craziness of it.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
You know, it's like I explained it to my friend the
other day.
They are acting like five yearno, not five like 12 year old
boys.
What do I mean?
They're always grabbing eachother like they're fucking,
always like smacking each otherballs.
You know taking each otherballs.
You know taking each othershirt, just rubbing the hair.
(26:04):
It's like 12 year old boysplaying with each other you know
?
Yeah, so it's fun.
It's fun to look String ofwords, what?
Now?
Okay, I'm not mean in thepedophile, I mean how they act.
Yeah, know how they look.
Most of them look much betterthan even the ladies.
They look pretty vulnerable.
Yeah, most of them look muchbetter than even the ladies.
(26:25):
And he was so shocked she likepulled her tits out, the other
one and she has one of the besttits in Pattaya.
It's a known lady boy.
I will not say her name if youwant I tell you later the best
tits in Pattaya.
And she was like and he waslike can I touch, you can do
whatever you want like veryscared the best teeth in Padre
and she was like and he was likecan I touch?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I said you can do whatever you want and he was
like that, Like very scared totouch, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, I don't know what he thought will happen, but
it was my first timeexperiencing someone that new.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah Well, I mean, I was used to seeing all the new
ones very often, but guys getthe same way, even with the
girls they're like I don't know,can I?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
usually do, guys that I knew that go with the girls.
They're like I had a story, Itold it before.
I will not repeat it, but manyof the my friends that came here
to visit me or we went togetherhere before they were so
aggressive with the ladies.
Oh, they were aggressiveBecause in their mind, oh, it's
(27:29):
post-its, like I can do whateverI want, yeah, and I told them
like no, brother, what are youdoing?
You, brother, what are youdoing?
You cannot like.
I will just give you an example.
So we he went to a bar in Soi 6.
We went there together.
We've been there for an hour.
I bought drinks for me and forthe lady that was sitting with
me right of course she didn'tbuy, bought a drink for his lady
(27:52):
but immediately tried to fingerher and stuff like that.
You know what the fuck are youdoing.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
He doesn't get how it works, yeah if I say the
customer doing like that to mylady I always say if they not
give you the drink, don't go tothe table of course, except they
call you in for the drink, thenokay no, you can come say hello
yeah, if they play like tooaggressive, I will go in right
away, just like please be alittle bit gentle so I told him
(28:17):
listen, you cannot do that.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And we moved a few bars, every bar.
He did that and then I justsaid no, I'm going.
He was 29 back then and then Ijust left.
I tell him I'm not staying withyou if you're acting like that.
Ok, fuck off, you can go.
Called me an hour later.
He had a black eye already,like someone punched him.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
he was looking for trouble, is what it sounds like,
and he found trouble.
That's the only time you findtrouble in this town, anyway, if
you're looking for it.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, but I'm just trying to say I never
experienced and you guys thatcome here are afraid of the
girls.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I've seen it plenty of times.
Usually the aggressive oneslike that.
They're usually like youngenglish guys, stuff like that.
They're always okay.
Yeah, but there is the stigma,there is the stigma against the
english guys here, which also I.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I think it's like maybe a cultural thing, that
they also consider everyone hereas a prostitute maybe, and they
think immediately.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I think this is true.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Like I never consider anyone as a prostitute.
Yeah, you are having sex formoney, but like that's Thailand.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
You're not a prostitute.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
This is just like like back home.
I'm saying, oh, I'm a webdesigner.
Oh, yeah, I work at the barhere.
You know, it's so normal here,yeah that's right.
So you cannot consider them asprostitutes as you think back
home, which, back home, ofcourse, they are more like yeah,
you go with the prostitute,it's to finger her, fuck her,
whatever.
Here it's different.
Here you have more thegirlfriend experience, would you
(29:47):
agree?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, it can be.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You can buy anything you want, really yeah but not
just like you buy one drink andthen you can just choke her to
almost date or like slap her assuntil it bruises, like that's
what I'm talking about.
Yeah, those are the people thatget too rowdy, yeah if you want
to do that?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
just go to a ladyboy bar.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, it's usually young guys.
They get too rowdy.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
The old guys never do that.
The old guys are just lookingfor the young girls normally,
which is also disgusting.
But okay, no, I mean like 60old guy with someone at her age
is not disgusting, you don'tagree with that?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
They're at the end of the road.
I'm doing whatever they want.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I still have another guy look, Maybe he's still
looking good but it's not me.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
She's asking what he looks like.
She said I understand.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I understand exactly what you're saying.
I'm going to counter her theaverage looking six-year-old guy
that's coming to Padre.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Oh, I don't see one more handsome yet, of course of
course not.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
They are normally overweight.
Back home no one really looksat them, or they are divorced.
You know exactly which guys I'mtalking about.
And then you see them hangingout with the most beautiful girl
or lady boy that you ever seenhell yeah, oh yeah, that's
generous, can't hear that?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
hell yeah, I can't hear that in a row my ex, my ex,
yeah, he's, he's, he gets agood one that we kind of he's
enjoying all those days beingkind of jealous of it, you know
wait, let's separate things,okay.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'm not talking taking health for a short time.
I'm talking about getting intorelationship with health.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, weird, I know most of the girls are jealous
jealous, weird Most of the girlsare jealous.
I'm not jealous.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I'm not jealous on the lady that get a guy, I'm
jealous on the guy that get abeautiful one.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Really.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And then the guy usually has money.
The girl is well off.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I should change my perspective.
Probably.
I don't think it's an issue.
When I met my ex, she was oneyear younger than me, which was
okay, you know, and we knew thesame things.
We have like things in common.
How old are you Now?
I'm 39, 30.
I'll tell you that 29, almost30.
(32:07):
Let's say she was 29.
Yeah, she was also working in abar in Svevokau.
We met each other.
Then we moved to Buriramtogether for a while, then Korat
for a while, and then we movedto Buriram together for a while,
then Korat for a while, andthen we moved to Israel and we
stayed.
She's still there, like, yeah,and I'm here.
So she's still there.
Yeah, she's working.
(32:28):
She's like actually a prettyknown chef in Israel, okay, thai
chef before she knew nothing.
Like she came to Israel, sheThai chef, thai Before she knew
nothing.
Like she came to Israel, shelike you tell her how to fry an
egg.
It was difficult for her.
And then one of my friends owna restaurant, a Thai restaurant,
and no Thai people work there.
So I asked him listen, likesomeone is coming to stay with
(32:52):
me, like she's kind of mygirlfriend back then Can you
give her a job?
He say yeah, yeah, she have apermit.
I say, yeah, she haveeverything.
Okay, every day for threemonths.
I'm going to kick her out.
She don't know how to work.
I'm going to kick her out.
She don't know how to work.
Say, give her a chance.
Give her three months, please.
Three months, he call me.
(33:13):
I want to that like she's thebest walker I have.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, yeah no, it's like they work when they when
they work, yeah, when they likelike thai people, they work good
.
Well, I mean, yeah, they showup, they wake up they like to
sleep.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I mean, otherwise I don't know, I don't care.
Yeah, I will not hire you foranything if you wake up at 10,
30, but you know well it worksout here.
Everything's at night up at1030,.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
But you know Well it works out here.
Everything's at night.
You know what?
I agree, it's a night town.
Yeah, it is a night town.
I like it too, because I wasalways the same schedule back
home.
I was always up late, late.
I've always been up at night.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
What's your occupation back home?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I did a bunch of different stuff back home.
Last thing before I left, I wasbreeding dogs.
Okay, what kind of dogs?
French Bulldog Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, okay, I did that for a while before I did a
bunch of stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
So you can make money out of dog breeding.
Yeah, yeah, really good money.
It depends what kind of breed,depends what kind of dog.
But like French Bulldog is likea trendy breed where they were
at the time, especiallysomething that you can do here.
Oh yeah, there's people do here, okay, don't make as much money
, like we're making money backhome.
But like now it's like it'sshifting the different breeds
(34:30):
stuff.
You know that's more like microbullies and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
My friend used to have a female Bull Terrier Bull
Terrier which is a very populardog in Israel.
Like those dogs, yeah, theproblem with them is that they
have a very short life, veryshort life, like eight years,
nine years maximum, and they die.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah, the French bull terrier still exactly live the
longest Because you know they're.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, I know they still exactly live the longest
they because you know they're.
Yeah, I know she was becauseshe was a female.
So he used to get like he needto find like another dog to like
breed with her.
Yeah, and you give the owner ofthe male dog one of the puppies
and he keep all the otherpuppies.
This is the deal.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
That's a pump back deal.
Yeah, so yeah, that's commonthe puppies.
This is the deal.
That's a pump back deal.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, okay, it's common and they sell for, let's
say, $1,000 each.
Our source is way more thanthat.
Yeah, but he don't have anylike documents about her.
She's pure and everything, butno documents.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
The documents are what makes it.
Yeah, you need to have thepapers how much like a bull
terrier.
Go back there a bull terrier Ihave no idea, I don't know.
Okay, french bulldog, oh,french bulldog.
Uh, it depends, could be fromthree to eight to twelve.
Yeah, wow, depends, dependsfully on the genetics and how
(35:55):
long you keep the puppy beforeyou give it.
You try to get rid of it aboutlike three-ish months, okay, so
after you get rid of them assoon as you can like, as soon as
they're done off the mom, offthe mush, then you're good, okay
, and you can sell them.
That's interesting, of course,the sooner you sell them, the
better, because there's no, yousaid you have, you had
(36:15):
experience in like designingalso.
Yeah, yeah I do a, I didquestions for it, I used to
shirts and I did a skateboarddecks and stuff okay so you're
just a hustler.
You do whatever you can do youknow, I do everything,
everything besides a normal job.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You're a hustler, no I'm not talking about no, I mean
like I do like a lot of thestuff, like yeah, but he's like
doing side jobs.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
You know it's not like main things Breeding dog,
doing some no, they're not mainthings.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I'll do anything as long as yeah, but they are
considered Exactly, they areconsidered side stuff, you know
For sure.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Like if I would tell you oh yeah, what you're doing,
I I don't even have an idea, butsomething like that way off of
the normal, like occupation youknow I actually that's what I
want to do too, like after Iquit my my the work with the
Muay Thai camp.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
you know that's that's my main goal to do the
just freelance, to do everythingonline.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Do you know the website Fiverr?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I actually look on the app work.
Okay, app work and Phil'sauthor, I don't remember the
name.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
So in Fiverr you can do whatever you want.
You know, fiverr you can dowhatever you want.
Over there you just publish Ican do this, this, this, this,
this, whatever, anything you canimagine, people will pay for
and it starts for $5 and peopleit depends on the job even
hundreds of dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Fiverr, Fiverr yeah, yeah, do you know what it is?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
no, I already I recommended it a few times, but
here they don't know it likeit's, very like they don't know
this kind of I guess it's moreof an Indian thing.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I feel like, yeah, yeah that whole area.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
No, like I was looking for a promoter back then
to this, yeah, 99% of themBangladeshi.
So good no, yeah, I was gonnaassume they told in their bio.
They said we can get you fakeviews.
I said what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I don't want a fake view, though.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, that kind of stuff yeah, no, sorry, I didn't
use them like I don't want, like.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I don't think there's really.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
It doesn't really make sense to me to get fake
views, fake followers, stufflike that yeah, because you like
, you do the, you want the realpeople to like, you know, you
know that you need the realpeople also.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
This kind of like thing that we are doing now
really depend of people thatwill support you.
So if you are talking patreonand stuff, yeah, of course and
fake views don't give youanything.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, so ego thing I feel like for most people to do
it, it's like a to show that Ihave.
I'm in LA.
It's like, okay, you've got1,000 people watching the video.
So it's like where are thesemillion people?
I don't know.
Yeah, and I show it up again.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
if you're waiting to get the money let's say you're
counting on getting the moneyfrom YouTube ads you will never
get anything out of this.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
You need real viewership, so yeah, for sure,
you need people to interact withit.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
So because we started a bit late, we have to make it
short episodes, but I would likeyou to come again.
Okay, yes, we will find anothertime that we can do a full
episode, because I still knowyou got new know nothing about
me.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I have to ask you more.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Next time you will ask me more questions.
We can do an intimate episodeand you can learn about me,
because I think my audience, ouraudience, don't really know me
well.
I did a few solo episodes.
They don't know you well.
No, because there is reasonswhy I cannot share too much and
(40:03):
what I can share.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
We all have reasons.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, I have more than others.
I can tell you later and thosereasons may like I cannot tell
everything about myself.
But whatever you want to ask,you can ask, and if not, I can
edit out next time.
Okay, so any wording.
Whatever you want to ask, youcan ask, and if not, I can edit
out next time.
Okay, so any wording, somethingyou want to say?
Speaker 2 (40:24):
No again.
I'm still waiting for thecomment from my future husband.
We got few, but we got fewalready.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
We got few already, but I want we reach at least 20
before I show you, so you get to, she gets a pick, yeah, yeah,
but she won't.
She actually asked for dicks.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I did not.
Actually, you say like don'tsend, but I say like I don't
mind that means you asked fordick pics.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
You also said add measurements.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
You said that no, I mean, if you don't even explain
it, then you put like actual,like you know proper way, you
know proper way, you know.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
It's like when I used to be to like go fishing and if
I got a fish, how would I showmy friends it's a big fish.
Just put a pack of cigarettenext to it, because everyone
knows the size of a pack ofcigarette.
And then, okay, one, two, three, four, five packs of cigarette.
Okay, it's a nice fish, someasure your cock with a pack of
cigarettes.
Thank you guys for listeningagain.
(41:21):
Patreon, please check it out,it helps and like subscribe.
You know the deal.
I'm tired of saying it, likeeveryone else, but thank you
very much for watching.
See you next time.
Femme, thank you for sittinghere and being beautiful.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Bye, guys thank you bye.
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