June 25, 2025 • 15 mins
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Have you ever considered that the stories in your mind might not be your own? That they could be parasites competing for space in your brain? This fascinating idea comes from Rafael, a Brazilian who's been living in Canada for the past year and a half, as he sits down with us for a raw and thought-provoking conversation.
Rafael takes us on a journey through his experiences navigating cultural transitions—from the shock of eating with his hands in Malawi where locals told him he "ate like a baby," to his steadfast commitment to the Brazilian habit of showering twice daily no matter where he lives. His observations challenge our assumptions, particularly when he reveals that São Paulo's metro system vastly outperforms Canada's public transportation, despite common perceptions about infrastructure in developing versus developed nations.
What makes this conversation truly special is Rafael's philosophical approach to life. He views existence as "one chance"—a perspective that has guided his decision to cross borders and reinvent himself. He introduces us to the concept of "mental immunity" and how certain ideas enter our minds, block contradictory thoughts, and only allow similar concepts to enter, creating echo chambers in our thinking. "Revisit the stories that you have in your mind regularly," he advises, acknowledging that many of our beliefs weren't consciously chosen but were planted by culture, country, or parents.
Whether you're navigating your own cross-cultural journey or simply interested in examining the narratives that shape your reality, Rafael's insights offer a compelling framework for self-reflection. Listen now and join us as we explore life beyond borders and the powerful stories that guide our paths. What story in your mind needs revisiting today?
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Gurasis (00:03):
okay, so it's my time.
Now we are in the final segmentof the podcast.
I call it beneath the accent.
I'm going to ask a couple ofquestions.
You can answer them in one wordor a sentence, or how several
you feel like.
The idea is just to know moreabout you.
Just a quick, rapid fire, okay.
The classic question whatadvice would you give to your
younger self, and at what age?
Rafael (00:25):
by the age 16.
I would say get out of yourcountry as soon as possible okay
, describe a moment when youexperienced a significant
cultural difference thatsurprised you there's a lot, but
what comes to my mind is thefirst time I I went to, I was in
malawi and I had to eat withouta fork and knife.
(00:48):
I eat with my hands.
And we see like there is aprocess of people washing their
hands and this and that and howgood they are eating.
With their hands they don'tmess like a baby.
So when they saw me eating theysaid you eat like a baby.
Yeah, it was very hard.
I never in my life.
It's okay, I had to eat with myhands, so yeah, that's for
(01:10):
cultural shock okay, I love that.
Gurasis (01:12):
What's this one dish from your home country that
always brings you comfort andnostalgia?
Rafael (01:19):
it's very cliche, but I would say feijoada.
That's the main dish in Brazil.
That's beans with pork andcooking the specific way, and
this dish is served everyWednesday and Saturday.
There's days for it and it'svery heavy but brings me like
(01:40):
the flavor or the memories thatI then when I eat this with my
friends.
So I would say feijoada and, bythe way, this is like 90 of the
answers of all brazilians.
Gurasis (01:50):
so it says there's nothing new on that okay when,
when you say it's solved, everywednesday, thursday, where it is
solved, in restaurants.
Rafael (01:59):
So it's the dish like.
It's like the main the, themain dish of the day.
So you go there.
There's some options, but themain dish is feijoada.
Edna's day and Saturday.
Gurasis (02:10):
Okay, is there any funny story that you remember
regarding the misunderstandingaround the accent or English?
Rafael (02:18):
Not due to my accent, but I remember when I was in
Malawi, the kids there.
They tried to communicate withyou in English.
Any way possible and they hadsome like a follow, like a
script in how to talk to you andlike how are you doing, I'm
fine, and you.
And sometimes they forget thesequence and I countless,
(02:44):
countless time one kidapproached me and said I'm fine,
they skip like how are youdoing?
I'm good.
How about you, I'm fine.
So they skipped.
So they start the conversationlike I'm fine, and I said, okay,
that's good, I'm fine too.
So it's not because of theaccent, but it was a good way,
(03:05):
like how they structured thedialogue in their heads and when
they change the positions, itended up being a totally
different conversation.
Gurasis (03:15):
That's cute.
Yeah, okay.
Do you have a favorite culturalfestival or celebration in
Canada, and how do you usuallycelebrate it?
Rafael (03:27):
Not really, because this is actually one thing that I
was thinking about today that Icame here.
I live here one year and a halfbut it's all about working and
trying to solve life here and Ididn't have much time to really
experience the life here, totravel, have more time to really
experience the life here liketo travel.
I just went to Quebec one daylike some weekends, but I would
(03:55):
say Halloween, because in Brazilthe Halloween culture is not
that much, it's starting but itwas the first time that I came
that I really see Halloween,like kids on the streets asking
for candies and people like Iwent to the metro, the
supermarket here and I enteredand I see I saw Harry Potter, oh
(04:20):
my God, but it was like anemployer, the place, and then I
realized, okay, the cashiers,everyone is disguised and that
for me, was, even though it'snot very Canadian I think it
starts in the United States orEngland, I don't know but
Halloween was for me, was thefirst like cultural celebration
that took me like, okay, that'svery nice, and it was the first
(04:43):
time that I disguised myselfFirst time.
Oh, okay, that's very nice, andit was the first time that I
disguised myself First time.
Gurasis (04:49):
Oh, okay, yeah, so it was very meaningful.
Okay, what's that one Brazilianhabit that you refuse to let go
of, no matter where you live?
Rafael (04:58):
Shower two times a day, really yeah.
Shower in the morning, showerat night, and I try to sleep
without showering.
It's not possible.
I have to take two showersevery day yeah, okay, sometimes
you don't need it because youstay at home the whole day.
You already showered, butthere's something in my mind
that I, before I go to sleep, goto bed.
(05:20):
I need to shower again.
So two showers, okay, twoshowers a day interesting.
Gurasis (05:26):
If your life were a movie, what title would it be?
Wow, how about life beyondborders?
Rafael (05:37):
life beyond borders.
But I was about to think aboutone like um, I would say the
only chance, because I see lifeas one chance.
We have one chance to do thingshere.
That was drive me because, like, life can end any second and as
far as we know, it's just onechance.
(05:59):
If we had more lives we'd begreat, but our lead life is just
one chance.
So you get into the stage, youhave one chance.
It's just one opportunity.
After that it's over.
Gurasis (06:11):
So I will say one chance hmm, okay, it could also
be the, the word that you taughtus I would say in portuguese.
Rafael (06:20):
It's literally keep playing, keep playing, exactly
like it's related with that,because it's just your, your,
your chances, now, life, you endup.
Uh, if you don't take advantageof this chance, it's the only
one tell us about the firstfriend that you made in canada
it's, it's roshan, it's roshan,it's.
(06:42):
Uh, he's canadian, but hisparents are from india and, uh,
it's a very nice guy.
We end up like a root, like theorganizer of that event
introduces in a cooking eventand he's a very nice guy like
that.
That I even told him, I think,here he came to my, to my home,
(07:04):
saturday and he left me one noteoh, nice, like, uh, like, thank
you.
And he wrote some words for me,like oh, it was the first time
I said okay, it was a long timeago before I made a new friend.
So I would say, rochelle, it'sa good friend, it's a first
friend here in.
Canada, yeah.
Gurasis (07:25):
I love that.
And what's the one thing Canadadoes better than Brazil and one
thing that Brazil will alwaysdo better?
Rafael (07:34):
Okay, I would say Canada in general I will not say
people, but the government, Idon't say.
They take good care of thepublic spaces.
So when you go to parks, uh,the grass is always clean.
There's by the river and so, uh, there's a lot of green spaces,
(07:55):
so you don't feel, of course,in downtown you can feel a
little bit overwhelmed, butthere's always a park nearby,
some trees, so I think they someway they organize the city that
you can always have some naturearound you.
So for me it's better whatbrazil do.
(08:16):
Better, I would say.
Strangely enough, at least inSao Paulo, where I was born, the
metro and the train are much,much better than here, really
Much better.
This is something that even forus from Brazil, from Sao Paulo,
we cannot understand howeverything around is a mess, but
(08:36):
the metro it's very safe, it'svery clean and there's a lot of
options for you to go anywhereon city.
So totally a differentexperience.
So Brazil do I would say SaoPaulo do better than Canada on
metro and public transportation.
Gurasis (08:56):
Oh, wow, yeah, it's good.
Interesting to know.
Is this something you ate forthe first time in Canada?
Did you like it?
Rafael (09:04):
Yeah, what is the name of that dish?
Indian dish with silver.
Gurasis (09:09):
Oh, that one, that's the butfi.
Rafael (09:12):
Butfi.
Okay, this was the first time.
Even though it's not fromCanada.
It was the first time here andit's delicious from canada.
It was first time here and it'sdelicious it's amazing, oh,
okay, perfect.
Gurasis (09:21):
And if you could have one superpower, what would it be
?
Rafael (09:24):
travel back in time.
Travel back in time for me, youare really obsessed with
traveling back.
Gurasis (09:29):
Yeah, because me also to go.
Rafael (09:31):
yeah, no, I'm obsessed with this because, uh, the the
the possibility for you towitness what happened, what
really happens, because there'ssome part of our history you
never know, like this is totallymysterious, we guess, with some
samples or this and that.
But the opportunity to go backand witness something like the
(09:52):
moment, like I always imagined,like that, and even going to the
future, for example, this week,last week, I had two
possibilities with my company totake this project or not take
this project, and I think itwill be very nice if I could
travel in the future and seewhat is going to happen if I
take this place.
(10:12):
Or what is going to happen if Itake this place, time travel
would solve all the problems,but it's impossible.
So I would say time travelwould solve all the problems,
but it's impossible.
So I would.
Gurasis (10:19):
I would say time travel if you could describe yourself
as any creature, what would itbe?
Rafael (10:25):
I would say a wolf.
Okay, a wolf that can work.
They can live in smallsocieties.
At the same time, it's open tolook around.
There's a very nice image of agroup, a pack of wolves.
The leader walks here and thefemales walk here and there.
(10:47):
So there's a structure in wolf.
And also there's a very nicebook called the Call of the Wild
.
They made a movie some yearsago with Harrison Ford.
There's one story about one dog.
It's the point of view of a dog, and how he gets in contact
with his wild nature is througha wolf.
(11:09):
So it's a very nice book, theCall of the Wild.
It's Jack, something.
I don't remember the author,but there's a movie.
So that image of the wolf andhow they get connected for the
instinct.
So that's why I would choosewolf.
Gurasis (11:25):
Lastly, how would you describe Canada in one word or a
sentence?
Rafael (11:31):
I would say possibilities.
Possibilities, okay, because atleast I came with this mind
that I can reinvent myself.
There's a lot of tools andpossibilities to grow.
Because it's multicultural yousee people from different
backgrounds uh, it's relativelysafe for me.
It's safe the people whodisagree with me and all.
(11:53):
It's not safe, but it's safeand gives you a lot of
possibilities.
So I would say possibilities.
Gurasis (11:59):
And Rafael, if you could leave me with one piece of
advice, what would it be?
Rafael (12:03):
Oh, my God, you are asking for the coach that won't
accept the opinion.
Revise or revisit the storiesthat you have in your mind
regularly, like because At theend, we have a bunch of stories
in our mind that drive usthrough life.
(12:24):
And also there's this theorythat's very interesting that
stories are beings, they arealive and the way they multiply
is by getting different heads,different brains, and that brain
, that person, pass the storyover to others.
So you can think religion, likethis social politic position,
(12:49):
it's a story that is multiplyingitself by people.
So the thing is, some of thestories we have in our mind we
didn't choose.
We was planted by the culture,by the country, by parents.
So there's these truths we havein our mind.
This is truth, this is how lifeworks and this and that Maybe
(13:11):
it's just a story.
So sometimes you have torevisit your mind and check if
these stories make sense.
There's a very nice book calledMental Immunity.
They call ideas like parasiteideas.
(13:31):
So there are some ideas.
That is like parasites.
They get into your brain, theyblock other ideas to come in and
they allow some similar ideasto get inside.
So you see people who have thisreligion, who have this
political view and you acceptthese kind of people because
(13:52):
it's just one idea that isaccepting disorder and blocking
others.
So the ideas are fighting oneagainst the other to see how you
get this human being and youget this brain.
So we are just tools.
The stories are using us tomultiply.
So revisit the stories andcheck if they make sense or not.
(14:14):
It's a very long answer, butrevisit your stories.
Gurasis (14:18):
Very, very fascinating that does make sense to me.
And lastly, Rafael, how wouldyou describe your experience
being on the podcast today?
Rafael (14:27):
very meaningful.
Very meaningful because yougive some inputs that I only by
speaking, that we can have.
For example, when you said,okay, that maybe that's why you
left your country, because yousee that dead bodies I never
thought about that.
So I would say it's verymeaningful.
(14:47):
Like by telling me my story andyou giving some inputs can
really that thing that I saidthat sometimes someone can drop
you one phrase on word that itcompletely changed the course of
her life.
So I would say very meaningful.
Thank you for your input and togive me this opportunity to be
here no.
Gurasis (15:07):
Thank you for being so open and, uh, sharing all
everything that you can with meand the audience.
So thank you for being on thepodcast and adding value to me
and to my listeners.
Rafael (15:18):
Thank you thank you, thank you very much.
okay, so it's my time.
Now we are in the final segmentof the podcast.
I call it beneath the accent.
I'm going to ask a couple ofquestions.
You can answer them in one wordor a sentence, or how several
you feel like.
The idea is just to know moreabout you.
Just a quick, rapid fire, okay.
The classic question whatadvice would you give to your
younger self, and at what age?
Rafael (00:25):
by the age 16.
I would say get out of yourcountry as soon as possible okay
, describe a moment when youexperienced a significant
cultural difference thatsurprised you there's a lot, but
what comes to my mind is thefirst time I I went to, I was in
malawi and I had to eat withouta fork and knife.
(00:48):
I eat with my hands.
And we see like there is aprocess of people washing their
hands and this and that and howgood they are eating.
With their hands they don'tmess like a baby.
So when they saw me eating theysaid you eat like a baby.
Yeah, it was very hard.
I never in my life.
It's okay, I had to eat with myhands, so yeah, that's for
(01:10):
cultural shock okay, I love that.
Gurasis (01:12):
What's this one dish from your home country that
always brings you comfort andnostalgia?
Rafael (01:19):
it's very cliche, but I would say feijoada.
That's the main dish in Brazil.
That's beans with pork andcooking the specific way, and
this dish is served everyWednesday and Saturday.
There's days for it and it'svery heavy but brings me like
(01:40):
the flavor or the memories thatI then when I eat this with my
friends.
So I would say feijoada and, bythe way, this is like 90 of the
answers of all brazilians.
Gurasis (01:50):
so it says there's nothing new on that okay when,
when you say it's solved, everywednesday, thursday, where it is
solved, in restaurants.
Rafael (01:59):
So it's the dish like.
It's like the main the, themain dish of the day.
So you go there.
There's some options, but themain dish is feijoada.
Edna's day and Saturday.
Gurasis (02:10):
Okay, is there any funny story that you remember
regarding the misunderstandingaround the accent or English?
Rafael (02:18):
Not due to my accent, but I remember when I was in
Malawi, the kids there.
They tried to communicate withyou in English.
Any way possible and they hadsome like a follow, like a
script in how to talk to you andlike how are you doing, I'm
fine, and you.
And sometimes they forget thesequence and I countless,
(02:44):
countless time one kidapproached me and said I'm fine,
they skip like how are youdoing?
I'm good.
How about you, I'm fine.
So they skipped.
So they start the conversationlike I'm fine, and I said, okay,
that's good, I'm fine too.
So it's not because of theaccent, but it was a good way,
(03:05):
like how they structured thedialogue in their heads and when
they change the positions, itended up being a totally
different conversation.
Gurasis (03:15):
That's cute.
Yeah, okay.
Do you have a favorite culturalfestival or celebration in
Canada, and how do you usuallycelebrate it?
Rafael (03:27):
Not really, because this is actually one thing that I
was thinking about today that Icame here.
I live here one year and a halfbut it's all about working and
trying to solve life here and Ididn't have much time to really
experience the life here, totravel, have more time to really
experience the life here liketo travel.
I just went to Quebec one daylike some weekends, but I would
(03:55):
say Halloween, because in Brazilthe Halloween culture is not
that much, it's starting but itwas the first time that I came
that I really see Halloween,like kids on the streets asking
for candies and people like Iwent to the metro, the
supermarket here and I enteredand I see I saw Harry Potter, oh
(04:20):
my God, but it was like anemployer, the place, and then I
realized, okay, the cashiers,everyone is disguised and that
for me, was, even though it'snot very Canadian I think it
starts in the United States orEngland, I don't know but
Halloween was for me, was thefirst like cultural celebration
that took me like, okay, that'svery nice, and it was the first
(04:43):
time that I disguised myselfFirst time.
Oh, okay, that's very nice, andit was the first time that I
disguised myself First time.
Gurasis (04:49):
Oh, okay, yeah, so it was very meaningful.
Okay, what's that one Brazilianhabit that you refuse to let go
of, no matter where you live?
Rafael (04:58):
Shower two times a day, really yeah.
Shower in the morning, showerat night, and I try to sleep
without showering.
It's not possible.
I have to take two showersevery day yeah, okay, sometimes
you don't need it because youstay at home the whole day.
You already showered, butthere's something in my mind
that I, before I go to sleep, goto bed.
(05:20):
I need to shower again.
So two showers, okay, twoshowers a day interesting.
Gurasis (05:26):
If your life were a movie, what title would it be?
Wow, how about life beyondborders?
Rafael (05:37):
life beyond borders.
But I was about to think aboutone like um, I would say the
only chance, because I see lifeas one chance.
We have one chance to do thingshere.
That was drive me because, like, life can end any second and as
far as we know, it's just onechance.
(05:59):
If we had more lives we'd begreat, but our lead life is just
one chance.
So you get into the stage, youhave one chance.
It's just one opportunity.
After that it's over.
Gurasis (06:11):
So I will say one chance hmm, okay, it could also
be the, the word that you taughtus I would say in portuguese.
Rafael (06:20):
It's literally keep playing, keep playing, exactly
like it's related with that,because it's just your, your,
your chances, now, life, you endup.
Uh, if you don't take advantageof this chance, it's the only
one tell us about the firstfriend that you made in canada
it's, it's roshan, it's roshan,it's.
(06:42):
Uh, he's canadian, but hisparents are from india and, uh,
it's a very nice guy.
We end up like a root, like theorganizer of that event
introduces in a cooking eventand he's a very nice guy like
that.
That I even told him, I think,here he came to my, to my home,
(07:04):
saturday and he left me one noteoh, nice, like, uh, like, thank
you.
And he wrote some words for me,like oh, it was the first time
I said okay, it was a long timeago before I made a new friend.
So I would say, rochelle, it'sa good friend, it's a first
friend here in.
Canada, yeah.
Gurasis (07:25):
I love that.
And what's the one thing Canadadoes better than Brazil and one
thing that Brazil will alwaysdo better?
Rafael (07:34):
Okay, I would say Canada in general I will not say
people, but the government, Idon't say.
They take good care of thepublic spaces.
So when you go to parks, uh,the grass is always clean.
There's by the river and so, uh, there's a lot of green spaces,
(07:55):
so you don't feel, of course,in downtown you can feel a
little bit overwhelmed, butthere's always a park nearby,
some trees, so I think they someway they organize the city that
you can always have some naturearound you.
So for me it's better whatbrazil do.
(08:16):
Better, I would say.
Strangely enough, at least inSao Paulo, where I was born, the
metro and the train are much,much better than here, really
Much better.
This is something that even forus from Brazil, from Sao Paulo,
we cannot understand howeverything around is a mess, but
(08:36):
the metro it's very safe, it'svery clean and there's a lot of
options for you to go anywhereon city.
So totally a differentexperience.
So Brazil do I would say SaoPaulo do better than Canada on
metro and public transportation.
Gurasis (08:56):
Oh, wow, yeah, it's good.
Interesting to know.
Is this something you ate forthe first time in Canada?
Did you like it?
Rafael (09:04):
Yeah, what is the name of that dish?
Indian dish with silver.
Gurasis (09:09):
Oh, that one, that's the butfi.
Rafael (09:12):
Butfi.
Okay, this was the first time.
Even though it's not fromCanada.
It was the first time here andit's delicious from canada.
It was first time here and it'sdelicious it's amazing, oh,
okay, perfect.
Gurasis (09:21):
And if you could have one superpower, what would it be
?
Rafael (09:24):
travel back in time.
Travel back in time for me, youare really obsessed with
traveling back.
Gurasis (09:29):
Yeah, because me also to go.
Rafael (09:31):
yeah, no, I'm obsessed with this because, uh, the the
the possibility for you towitness what happened, what
really happens, because there'ssome part of our history you
never know, like this is totallymysterious, we guess, with some
samples or this and that.
But the opportunity to go backand witness something like the
(09:52):
moment, like I always imagined,like that, and even going to the
future, for example, this week,last week, I had two
possibilities with my company totake this project or not take
this project, and I think itwill be very nice if I could
travel in the future and seewhat is going to happen if I
take this place.
(10:12):
Or what is going to happen if Itake this place, time travel
would solve all the problems,but it's impossible.
So I would say time travelwould solve all the problems,
but it's impossible.
So I would.
Gurasis (10:19):
I would say time travel if you could describe yourself
as any creature, what would itbe?
Rafael (10:25):
I would say a wolf.
Okay, a wolf that can work.
They can live in smallsocieties.
At the same time, it's open tolook around.
There's a very nice image of agroup, a pack of wolves.
The leader walks here and thefemales walk here and there.
(10:47):
So there's a structure in wolf.
And also there's a very nicebook called the Call of the Wild
.
They made a movie some yearsago with Harrison Ford.
There's one story about one dog.
It's the point of view of a dog, and how he gets in contact
with his wild nature is througha wolf.
(11:09):
So it's a very nice book, theCall of the Wild.
It's Jack, something.
I don't remember the author,but there's a movie.
So that image of the wolf andhow they get connected for the
instinct.
So that's why I would choosewolf.
Gurasis (11:25):
Lastly, how would you describe Canada in one word or a
sentence?
Rafael (11:31):
I would say possibilities.
Possibilities, okay, because atleast I came with this mind
that I can reinvent myself.
There's a lot of tools andpossibilities to grow.
Because it's multicultural yousee people from different
backgrounds uh, it's relativelysafe for me.
It's safe the people whodisagree with me and all.
(11:53):
It's not safe, but it's safeand gives you a lot of
possibilities.
So I would say possibilities.
Gurasis (11:59):
And Rafael, if you could leave me with one piece of
advice, what would it be?
Rafael (12:03):
Oh, my God, you are asking for the coach that won't
accept the opinion.
Revise or revisit the storiesthat you have in your mind
regularly, like because At theend, we have a bunch of stories
in our mind that drive usthrough life.
(12:24):
And also there's this theorythat's very interesting that
stories are beings, they arealive and the way they multiply
is by getting different heads,different brains, and that brain
, that person, pass the storyover to others.
So you can think religion, likethis social politic position,
(12:49):
it's a story that is multiplyingitself by people.
So the thing is, some of thestories we have in our mind we
didn't choose.
We was planted by the culture,by the country, by parents.
So there's these truths we havein our mind.
This is truth, this is how lifeworks and this and that Maybe
(13:11):
it's just a story.
So sometimes you have torevisit your mind and check if
these stories make sense.
There's a very nice book calledMental Immunity.
They call ideas like parasiteideas.
(13:31):
So there are some ideas.
That is like parasites.
They get into your brain, theyblock other ideas to come in and
they allow some similar ideasto get inside.
So you see people who have thisreligion, who have this
political view and you acceptthese kind of people because
(13:52):
it's just one idea that isaccepting disorder and blocking
others.
So the ideas are fighting oneagainst the other to see how you
get this human being and youget this brain.
So we are just tools.
The stories are using us tomultiply.
So revisit the stories andcheck if they make sense or not.
(14:14):
It's a very long answer, butrevisit your stories.
Gurasis (14:18):
Very, very fascinating that does make sense to me.
And lastly, Rafael, how wouldyou describe your experience
being on the podcast today?
Rafael (14:27):
very meaningful.
Very meaningful because yougive some inputs that I only by
speaking, that we can have.
For example, when you said,okay, that maybe that's why you
left your country, because yousee that dead bodies I never
thought about that.
So I would say it's verymeaningful.
(14:47):
Like by telling me my story andyou giving some inputs can
really that thing that I saidthat sometimes someone can drop
you one phrase on word that itcompletely changed the course of
her life.
So I would say very meaningful.
Thank you for your input and togive me this opportunity to be
here no.
Gurasis (15:07):
Thank you for being so open and, uh, sharing all
everything that you can with meand the audience.
So thank you for being on thepodcast and adding value to me
and to my listeners.
Rafael (15:18):
Thank you thank you, thank you very much.
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