November 12, 2023 • 19 mins
During The Early Bird Gets The Worm we discovered the impact of different chronotypes on our daily routines. In this episode we have two bonus clips for you to enjoy!
In this first clip we talk to a fitness and nutrition expert about how sleep schedules impact your body and mind. Learn about the profound effects our internal clocks can have on our health, and how proper sleep hygiene and consistency can enhance our everyday performance.
Our second clip comes from the only night owl that interviewed. Our guest shares his personal journey and provides valuable insights on how night owls can harness their unique circadian rhythm to achieve their peak performance.
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Can’t Hurt Me: Master Your Mind and Defy the Odds – David Goggins
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Oh yeah, bone us.
Hello podcast family.
This is your unoriginal host,afton Jay.
Thanks for tuning in to ourbonus clips.
(00:40):
During this extra time together, I'll share interesting
interviews and information thatdidn't make it into the final
episodes.
During the creation of eachepisode, there is always so much
extra material and I want toshare it because it's really
interesting, but unfortunatelysometimes we just don't have
time or there wasn't a place forit in the final cut.
These bonus episodes arecreated to help you learn and
(01:03):
laugh a little more.
I hope you enjoy.
These clips are all from theEarly Bird Gets the Worm.
During this episode, we talkedchronotypes and how sleep
affects your daily schedule.
In this clip we talked to afitness and nutrition coach.
We discovered the profoundeffects of circadian rhythms on
our overall health.
(01:23):
She brings up some great pointsthat we're just not able to get
to during the podcast, such assleep hygiene and how it affects
performance.
We also talked about anotherthought-provoking book, can't
Hurt Me, by David Goggins, whichI'll link in the show notes if
you're interested.
So would you consider yourselfan Early Bird or like a night
owl?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Definitely not the afternoon.
Late evening After two o'clockyou can hang it up.
I'm no good and it doesn'tmatter what time I got up.
If I stayed in the bed untilone, I'm still not gonna be any
good after two o'clock.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
What are you doing after two o'clock?
You're like you just hang it upand what do you tell them out?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Like but.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, like, what kind of things do you do after two
o'clock then?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Well, sometimes, oh, hmm, write the golf cart got
fishing, Hell yeah.
I mean I don't.
I mean like we don't.
When it cuts off in our house,it's like oh, I gotta be fishing
or bringing a beer or two.
Even then that's gonna be doneby like eight.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You're good for like a couple hours in the morning, a
little bit of fishing in theafternoon, cut off by eight.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Welcome to over 40 minute pause.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, it's just the way it rolls.
This is real.
I mean, this is what you haveto look forward to.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
That's exactly right.
That's right Because I mean itwell, and it's different because
in my 20s and even 30s, like Iwas very much a night owl.
Like I could stay up all nightlong.
I could drink caffeine until 30minutes before I went to bed.
I could sleep like a baby andget up four hours later.
Like I I mean, and I would.
I had burned the roads up.
(03:07):
Like I would be up 20 out of 24hours work, go to school, had a
toddler in a relationship,drove driving an hour and 30
minutes one way.
Like I did all that stuff.
But if I had to do that now,I'd be nope, not doing it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, Huh, Interesting.
Yeah they.
They talk about your circadianrhythm changes throughout your
lifetime.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes, yes, and like I said, like I, I have grown to
enjoy getting up early, as oflate.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, and getting in your own rhythm and like, not a
set schedule, not working forthe man on the man's time.
Yeah, they were.
They were talking about somepeople get social jet lag where,
like, we force people to beawake like nine to five.
So if you fall outside of thosecategories then you like might
have an issue like fitting intosociety, especially like night
(04:00):
owls who, like they stay up allnight.
Well, they don't.
They have to wake up and breaktheir sleep to get anything done
normally.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And it's weird how things impact that too, because
I worked a second to third splitwhen I was pregnant with my
second child and I ended uphaving high blood pressure
because I couldn't sleep near inthe day anymore, like whatever,
like that's a whole thing thathappens with third shift workers
(04:29):
, really.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, that like impacts your, like physical
health.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yes, like you can't I forget what they call it, but
it has a name where you can'tsleep during the day anymore.
And so, like my doctor had towrite for me to go to work on
first shift because I was goingto be pre-eclantic, because I
couldn't sleep.
I wasn't getting any restduring my pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I did not know that.
Are there any of their likephysical things that you've seen
like linked to the circadianrhythm or that you know of?
Like you teach your clients, ordoes it affect their workouts
or their nutrition?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Oh well, sleep is huge, yeah, anyway, but it's a
matter of figuring it out andyour sleep hygiene, what we call
sleep hygiene what does the oneto three hours before you lay
down to go to sleep look like?
What are you doing and how areyou preparing your body for rest
(05:27):
?
And then are you allowing ampletime for your body to rest
before that?
So sleep hygiene is huge whenit comes to overall health,
wellness and performance.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, absolutely.
Do you run into problems withthat ever?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Because they don't.
It's an area that people don'tthink they need discipline, but
you have to be just asdisciplined in how you prepare
your body for rest as you are inhow you prepare your body for
work.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
That's so interesting .
I never thought about that like, but obviously, like as a coach
, you have to think about thosekinds of things and how all of
this affects everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And it's all linked.
And so many times people comeand they, you know, like what do
you want to see happen?
And obviously, outside oflosing weight, which is most
often what we see, it's I needmore energy.
And when you ask what does thatlook like?
You know they'll explain thingsand you'll say well, how's your
sleep?
And it's typically broken.
(06:38):
Or I get up to go to thebathroom, or I don't go to bed
until late, or whatever thatlooks like.
And so you're like okay, well,what is your nighttime routine?
What does that look like?
And then, when you start tobreak that apart, well, I lay in
the bed and watch TV until Ifall asleep.
And then the timer turns the TVoff, like that's one of the most
horrible things that you can dofor sleep and rest and
(07:00):
regenerate.
I mean because that's wheneverything repairs, mm-hmm.
So it once we fix hydration andthen we fix sleep, most of the
time they feel better and thenthey can focus more on eating
better.
And, like I have one particularwhen you, when we talk about
this, I have one particularclient that I think about,
(07:22):
because she had a horrible likenighttime routine and she wasn't
sleeping.
She has thyroid issues, so thatimpacted as well.
Mm-hmm, all these things.
And when we really got honed inon what her nighttime routine
needed to be and what her sleephygiene looked like, like it was
(07:43):
a game changer for her.
It improved her mood during theday, it improved her
productivity at work.
In the morning she felt betterto get up and eat breakfast,
where normally getting up andeating breakfast would make her
nauseated because she hadn'trested well.
I feel like it was this wholedomino effect of events that
(08:04):
would happen.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That's incredible.
I never even thought about likebeing very intentional with
what time you're going to sleep,what time you wake up and how
you schedule out your day tomake sure that your workouts,
your nutrition, your cognitiveload is like maximum potential.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well and that's another thing too is that you
can, you can.
You can adapt your rhythm bysetting up those things in a
time.
So if you know that you need toget up at 5 am to be at work by
7 and you know that you need 6to 8 hours like you work
(08:43):
backwards, so then when does mynighttime routine need to start?
And that's how you reallyfigure out.
And then, once you do that fora period of time, then you
basically reset your rhythm,just like with me getting up at
4.30 in the morning.
I was sleeping until 9 o'clockevery day and I started setting
the alarm.
Now, more often than not, Iwill wake up around 4.15 before
(09:07):
my 4.30 alarm even goes offbecause I've prepared and my
body's like okay, it's time togo now.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, we've been.
So the, the, the podcast that Idid.
There's a book and it talksabout your natural rhythm.
It doesn't talk about resettingyour natural rhythm over time,
which I think is interestingbecause, like, there is a time
where, like, your body willnaturally get up, but if you
reset it and you're veryconsistent about it, you will
reset your clock, which meansyou could reset your cognitive
(09:35):
loads and what you need throughthe day.
And, ah, we didn't even didn'teven touch on that.
I think David Goggins talksabout that a lot, if I'm not
mistaken.
Resetting your circadian rhythm.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Just talking about that schedule and what your body
needs and you know, and so manytimes people talk about well, I
don't have time to XYZ and it'sreally more of a.
I don't put it in my schedule,mm-hmm.
So it's really it's.
(10:06):
I don't make time, I don'tprioritize it, yeah, rather than
I don't have.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
you know, I get it like there's.
There's a lot of people who arelike you have set things, so
it's like you have to do certainthings, or like kids or
whatever.
Right, They'll throw it off,but right, if it's a priority,
then it's a priority.
You know, you put the kids tobed earlier so you can go to bed
earlier, Correct, so everybodycan wake up earlier, or whatever
.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And that was the thing at my high.
I mean, we don't have kids inthe house, but that was the
thing at my house when I startedgetting up at 430 in the
morning Like my husband's anight out.
He has ADHD, he stays up lateuntil his everything calms down
and I was like I cannot stay upuntil 11 and then get in the bed
and then need 30 minutes or soto wind myself down, to go to
(10:51):
sleep, to then turn around andwake up at 430 in the morning.
Now I've effectively gottenmaybe four hours of sleep and so
we actually started going tobed earlier and it it's been
much better.
But he also is beginning tofeel better because now that's
impacting him.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Oh so he's getting up earlier too Interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Probably not this week because I'm not there,
because you're not there.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
He's like man fuck it .
Stay up all night.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I don't know what time he got it.
Well, he was up earlier today.
Well, I say earlier, it mighthave been like 830 here, so it
was 930 there.
Yeah, but that's about normal.
Yeah, that's about the norm.
So interesting.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, yeah, I.
I love all of that stuff and Ihave to go back and read the
David Goggins book.
I can't, I'm.
I mean, it sounds very DavidGoggins-esque where he's like
get up at 2am and eat 500 eggsand I know I know right, david
Jr in there.
I read the David Goggins bookand I feel like I'm like I can
(11:55):
follow some rules and I was likethis guy is nuts, like there's,
there's that is like so extreme.
Yeah, when he talks about whenhe ran the race and gave himself
kidney failure.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I was like you.
You did what.
Why would you do that?
Why did you do that?
Right, like okay.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Sure, we're just listening.
There's another one Sure, we'rejust listening.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
We read a cold fit this morning and the girl's like
, look, it's not my circus, notmy monkeys.
I was like I want to do thatone, let's mix.
Yeah.
This next clip comes from theonly night owl I interviewed.
(12:40):
He is an entrepreneur and hecan set his own schedule.
It was interesting to hear howhe sets up his days compared to
the research done about owls.
If you want to learn a littlebit more about owls, then this
clip is for you.
There's a, there's a bookcalled when by Daniel Pink and
he goes into that.
(13:01):
There are natural ways that ourbodies function and everyone's a
little bit different, and sothere's morning, there's morning
birds, there's early birds,there's larks, and then there's
a third bird right, or the owl,and then the third bird Sorry,
and most people fit into thelike third bird slash, early
(13:21):
morning people, and then veryfew people fit into, like the
night owl type of person.
But depending on the person thatyou are, you should do certain
tasks at certain times becauseof your circadian rhythm.
Well, what I find isinteresting is and I'd have to
go back and look about the nightowl stuff because I'm I'm not a
night owl, so I don't rememberwhat it said.
But there is a cognitive loadthat you should be putting on
(13:42):
your body according to yourcircadian rhythm and I do think
that it calls for your tasks tobe you're like cognitive tasks
to be at night, which is whatyou said.
So I have to go back and take alook at it.
But but yeah, that'd be veryinteresting if you are naturally
following that circadian rhythmwith what you do when you wake
(14:04):
up at 9am.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So I don't like it in the morning.
I'm very I'm like, not awakeeven if I have caffeine, even if
I work out like I.
It's almost like if you gave methe same tasks, you said, hey,
(14:27):
today I need you to do thesetasks at 8, 9, 10 am, but
tomorrow I want you to do thesame task at 8, 9, 10 am I would
probably one do it better at 8,9, or 10 pm and two, be more
motivated to do it at 8, 9, or10 pm because I don't want to do
anything in the morning.
(14:47):
Like that's funny to think about, because now I do like to work
out in the morning.
I actually really do enjoy that.
I don't.
I think that's mostly because,like I don't want to break up my
day at night.
Yeah, like at night if I'mflowing and working on something
(15:10):
that I don't want to wake up.
At 6 pm, 7 pm, I gotta go workout and I just like have to
break that like concentrationperiod, and so if I get my
workout in early, I canessentially work the rest of the
day with no interruptions.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
So so this is like a quick I like to do multiple
sources, not just single source,but like this is a quick search
and I, from what I rememberfrom the book and from other
things I've read, this is kindof true.
But so it does say that ifyou're a night owl, we like make
(15:49):
you, we force you to conform toa nine to five schedule, just
like everybody else.
So that can be very detrimentalto the night owl who just
doesn't.
That's not their natural thing.
Like you said, like you'rereally tired in the morning you
don't fit into a nine to fivejob.
That would like not cognitivelybe good for you.
And it says yeah, so night owlscan enjoy a more peaceful
environment with no noisydistractions.
(16:11):
So they enjoy that.
They tend to be more sharper andmore focused.
This one was interesting.
It does.
There is a correlation betweennight owl and being more social
creatures and or having a higher, higher level of alcoholism.
But they also were like well,what do you do at night?
(16:32):
Like the things that are openat night are like bars, social
things, stuff like that.
So that's so.
They're like ah, is it acorrelation between drinking too
much or is it just like?
People don't drink at five am,so like the morning, people are
not drinking mimosas, you know,so they're having coffee.
So that that could not be astatistical correlation, but it
just is something.
Night owls can concentratelonger and achieve more than
(16:56):
early risers.
That's an interesting one.
And then, yeah, traditionaljobs and school scheduleings are
not your thing, but good newsis that remote work has solved
that issue.
Sadly, night owls may faceother concerns like mental
health issues and metabolicrisks.
But on the upside it says a lotof creative thoughts out there
work at night, when it's verypeaceful and quiet.
(17:17):
So recent research indicatesthat certain genetic markers
decide whether we are naturallyinclined to be an early bird or
night owl.
By understanding yourchronotype, you can plan your
work schedule and taskseffectively to utilize your peak
performance periods.
So this is what they're talkingabout, where, like, people just
don't follow these orunderstand these, so they're not
getting the most out of theirproductivity.
But if you understand yourchronotype and your specific
(17:40):
sleep schedule and or how yourbody functions, then you can
like take advantage of thatthroughout the day and be the
most productive you can be.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I like it.
I also know like if I get on aproject like I will, I could
stay up until like two or threeam, until it's finished.
But, like if I get on a projectat like nine am, I'm like I
need to take a break.
I need to like go eat lunch.
I need to like I need to go getan energy drink I need to go
(18:12):
like, for whatever reason, I cansit in front of the computer at
night for hours and never getup, but in the morning like I
have this craving to like get upand break it up and like get
distracted yeah yeah yeah, sovery, very strange.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, okay, I really appreciate you answering those.
Those were really good, okay,bye.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Okay, bye.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
That's a wrap for today.
I'll leave you here with theseintellectual snacks to think
about and you can tell me whatyou think by leaving us a
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We'll see you next time and, asalways, keep being inquisitive.
Oh yeah, bone us.
Hello podcast family.
This is your unoriginal host,afton Jay.
Thanks for tuning in to ourbonus clips.
(00:40):
During this extra time together, I'll share interesting
interviews and information thatdidn't make it into the final
episodes.
During the creation of eachepisode, there is always so much
extra material and I want toshare it because it's really
interesting, but unfortunatelysometimes we just don't have
time or there wasn't a place forit in the final cut.
These bonus episodes arecreated to help you learn and
(01:03):
laugh a little more.
I hope you enjoy.
These clips are all from theEarly Bird Gets the Worm.
During this episode, we talkedchronotypes and how sleep
affects your daily schedule.
In this clip we talked to afitness and nutrition coach.
We discovered the profoundeffects of circadian rhythms on
our overall health.
(01:23):
She brings up some great pointsthat we're just not able to get
to during the podcast, such assleep hygiene and how it affects
performance.
We also talked about anotherthought-provoking book, can't
Hurt Me, by David Goggins, whichI'll link in the show notes if
you're interested.
So would you consider yourselfan Early Bird or like a night
owl?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Definitely not the afternoon.
Late evening After two o'clockyou can hang it up.
I'm no good and it doesn'tmatter what time I got up.
If I stayed in the bed untilone, I'm still not gonna be any
good after two o'clock.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
What are you doing after two o'clock?
You're like you just hang it upand what do you tell them out?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Like but.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, like, what kind of things do you do after two
o'clock then?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Well, sometimes, oh, hmm, write the golf cart got
fishing, Hell yeah.
I mean I don't.
I mean like we don't.
When it cuts off in our house,it's like oh, I gotta be fishing
or bringing a beer or two.
Even then that's gonna be doneby like eight.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You're good for like a couple hours in the morning, a
little bit of fishing in theafternoon, cut off by eight.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Welcome to over 40 minute pause.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, it's just the way it rolls.
This is real.
I mean, this is what you haveto look forward to.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
That's exactly right.
That's right Because I mean itwell, and it's different because
in my 20s and even 30s, like Iwas very much a night owl.
Like I could stay up all nightlong.
I could drink caffeine until 30minutes before I went to bed.
I could sleep like a baby andget up four hours later.
Like I I mean, and I would.
I had burned the roads up.
(03:07):
Like I would be up 20 out of 24hours work, go to school, had a
toddler in a relationship,drove driving an hour and 30
minutes one way.
Like I did all that stuff.
But if I had to do that now,I'd be nope, not doing it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, Huh, Interesting.
Yeah they.
They talk about your circadianrhythm changes throughout your
lifetime.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes, yes, and like I said, like I, I have grown to
enjoy getting up early, as oflate.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, and getting in your own rhythm and like, not a
set schedule, not working forthe man on the man's time.
Yeah, they were.
They were talking about somepeople get social jet lag where,
like, we force people to beawake like nine to five.
So if you fall outside of thosecategories then you like might
have an issue like fitting intosociety, especially like night
(04:00):
owls who, like they stay up allnight.
Well, they don't.
They have to wake up and breaktheir sleep to get anything done
normally.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And it's weird how things impact that too, because
I worked a second to third splitwhen I was pregnant with my
second child and I ended uphaving high blood pressure
because I couldn't sleep near inthe day anymore, like whatever,
like that's a whole thing thathappens with third shift workers
(04:29):
, really.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, that like impacts your, like physical
health.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yes, like you can't I forget what they call it, but
it has a name where you can'tsleep during the day anymore.
And so, like my doctor had towrite for me to go to work on
first shift because I was goingto be pre-eclantic, because I
couldn't sleep.
I wasn't getting any restduring my pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I did not know that.
Are there any of their likephysical things that you've seen
like linked to the circadianrhythm or that you know of?
Like you teach your clients, ordoes it affect their workouts
or their nutrition?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Oh well, sleep is huge, yeah, anyway, but it's a
matter of figuring it out andyour sleep hygiene, what we call
sleep hygiene what does the oneto three hours before you lay
down to go to sleep look like?
What are you doing and how areyou preparing your body for rest
(05:27):
?
And then are you allowing ampletime for your body to rest
before that?
So sleep hygiene is huge whenit comes to overall health,
wellness and performance.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, absolutely.
Do you run into problems withthat ever?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Because they don't.
It's an area that people don'tthink they need discipline, but
you have to be just asdisciplined in how you prepare
your body for rest as you are inhow you prepare your body for
work.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
That's so interesting .
I never thought about that like, but obviously, like as a coach
, you have to think about thosekinds of things and how all of
this affects everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And it's all linked.
And so many times people comeand they, you know, like what do
you want to see happen?
And obviously, outside oflosing weight, which is most
often what we see, it's I needmore energy.
And when you ask what does thatlook like?
You know they'll explain thingsand you'll say well, how's your
sleep?
And it's typically broken.
(06:38):
Or I get up to go to thebathroom, or I don't go to bed
until late, or whatever thatlooks like.
And so you're like okay, well,what is your nighttime routine?
What does that look like?
And then, when you start tobreak that apart, well, I lay in
the bed and watch TV until Ifall asleep.
And then the timer turns the TVoff, like that's one of the most
horrible things that you can dofor sleep and rest and
(07:00):
regenerate.
I mean because that's wheneverything repairs, mm-hmm.
So it once we fix hydration andthen we fix sleep, most of the
time they feel better and thenthey can focus more on eating
better.
And, like I have one particularwhen you, when we talk about
this, I have one particularclient that I think about,
(07:22):
because she had a horrible likenighttime routine and she wasn't
sleeping.
She has thyroid issues, so thatimpacted as well.
Mm-hmm, all these things.
And when we really got honed inon what her nighttime routine
needed to be and what her sleephygiene looked like, like it was
(07:43):
a game changer for her.
It improved her mood during theday, it improved her
productivity at work.
In the morning she felt betterto get up and eat breakfast,
where normally getting up andeating breakfast would make her
nauseated because she hadn'trested well.
I feel like it was this wholedomino effect of events that
(08:04):
would happen.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That's incredible.
I never even thought about likebeing very intentional with
what time you're going to sleep,what time you wake up and how
you schedule out your day tomake sure that your workouts,
your nutrition, your cognitiveload is like maximum potential.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well and that's another thing too is that you
can, you can.
You can adapt your rhythm bysetting up those things in a
time.
So if you know that you need toget up at 5 am to be at work by
7 and you know that you need 6to 8 hours like you work
(08:43):
backwards, so then when does mynighttime routine need to start?
And that's how you reallyfigure out.
And then, once you do that fora period of time, then you
basically reset your rhythm,just like with me getting up at
4.30 in the morning.
I was sleeping until 9 o'clockevery day and I started setting
the alarm.
Now, more often than not, Iwill wake up around 4.15 before
(09:07):
my 4.30 alarm even goes offbecause I've prepared and my
body's like okay, it's time togo now.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, we've been.
So the, the, the podcast that Idid.
There's a book and it talksabout your natural rhythm.
It doesn't talk about resettingyour natural rhythm over time,
which I think is interestingbecause, like, there is a time
where, like, your body willnaturally get up, but if you
reset it and you're veryconsistent about it, you will
reset your clock, which meansyou could reset your cognitive
(09:35):
loads and what you need throughthe day.
And, ah, we didn't even didn'teven touch on that.
I think David Goggins talksabout that a lot, if I'm not
mistaken.
Resetting your circadian rhythm.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Just talking about that schedule and what your body
needs and you know, and so manytimes people talk about well, I
don't have time to XYZ and it'sreally more of a.
I don't put it in my schedule,mm-hmm.
So it's really it's.
(10:06):
I don't make time, I don'tprioritize it, yeah, rather than
I don't have.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
you know, I get it like there's.
There's a lot of people who arelike you have set things, so
it's like you have to do certainthings, or like kids or
whatever.
Right, They'll throw it off,but right, if it's a priority,
then it's a priority.
You know, you put the kids tobed earlier so you can go to bed
earlier, Correct, so everybodycan wake up earlier, or whatever
.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And that was the thing at my high.
I mean, we don't have kids inthe house, but that was the
thing at my house when I startedgetting up at 430 in the
morning Like my husband's anight out.
He has ADHD, he stays up lateuntil his everything calms down
and I was like I cannot stay upuntil 11 and then get in the bed
and then need 30 minutes or soto wind myself down, to go to
(10:51):
sleep, to then turn around andwake up at 430 in the morning.
Now I've effectively gottenmaybe four hours of sleep and so
we actually started going tobed earlier and it it's been
much better.
But he also is beginning tofeel better because now that's
impacting him.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Oh so he's getting up earlier too Interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Probably not this week because I'm not there,
because you're not there.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
He's like man fuck it .
Stay up all night.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I don't know what time he got it.
Well, he was up earlier today.
Well, I say earlier, it mighthave been like 830 here, so it
was 930 there.
Yeah, but that's about normal.
Yeah, that's about the norm.
So interesting.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, yeah, I.
I love all of that stuff and Ihave to go back and read the
David Goggins book.
I can't, I'm.
I mean, it sounds very DavidGoggins-esque where he's like
get up at 2am and eat 500 eggsand I know I know right, david
Jr in there.
I read the David Goggins bookand I feel like I'm like I can
(11:55):
follow some rules and I was likethis guy is nuts, like there's,
there's that is like so extreme.
Yeah, when he talks about whenhe ran the race and gave himself
kidney failure.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I was like you.
You did what.
Why would you do that?
Why did you do that?
Right, like okay.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Sure, we're just listening.
There's another one Sure, we'rejust listening.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
We read a cold fit this morning and the girl's like
, look, it's not my circus, notmy monkeys.
I was like I want to do thatone, let's mix.
Yeah.
This next clip comes from theonly night owl I interviewed.
(12:40):
He is an entrepreneur and hecan set his own schedule.
It was interesting to hear howhe sets up his days compared to
the research done about owls.
If you want to learn a littlebit more about owls, then this
clip is for you.
There's a, there's a bookcalled when by Daniel Pink and
he goes into that.
(13:01):
There are natural ways that ourbodies function and everyone's a
little bit different, and sothere's morning, there's morning
birds, there's early birds,there's larks, and then there's
a third bird right, or the owl,and then the third bird Sorry,
and most people fit into thelike third bird slash, early
(13:21):
morning people, and then veryfew people fit into, like the
night owl type of person.
But depending on the person thatyou are, you should do certain
tasks at certain times becauseof your circadian rhythm.
Well, what I find isinteresting is and I'd have to
go back and look about the nightowl stuff because I'm I'm not a
night owl, so I don't rememberwhat it said.
But there is a cognitive loadthat you should be putting on
(13:42):
your body according to yourcircadian rhythm and I do think
that it calls for your tasks tobe you're like cognitive tasks
to be at night, which is whatyou said.
So I have to go back and take alook at it.
But but yeah, that'd be veryinteresting if you are naturally
following that circadian rhythmwith what you do when you wake
(14:04):
up at 9am.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So I don't like it in the morning.
I'm very I'm like, not awakeeven if I have caffeine, even if
I work out like I.
It's almost like if you gave methe same tasks, you said, hey,
(14:27):
today I need you to do thesetasks at 8, 9, 10 am, but
tomorrow I want you to do thesame task at 8, 9, 10 am I would
probably one do it better at 8,9, or 10 pm and two, be more
motivated to do it at 8, 9, or10 pm because I don't want to do
anything in the morning.
(14:47):
Like that's funny to think about, because now I do like to work
out in the morning.
I actually really do enjoy that.
I don't.
I think that's mostly because,like I don't want to break up my
day at night.
Yeah, like at night if I'mflowing and working on something
(15:10):
that I don't want to wake up.
At 6 pm, 7 pm, I gotta go workout and I just like have to
break that like concentrationperiod, and so if I get my
workout in early, I canessentially work the rest of the
day with no interruptions.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
So so this is like a quick I like to do multiple
sources, not just single source,but like this is a quick search
and I, from what I rememberfrom the book and from other
things I've read, this is kindof true.
But so it does say that ifyou're a night owl, we like make
(15:49):
you, we force you to conform toa nine to five schedule, just
like everybody else.
So that can be very detrimentalto the night owl who just
doesn't.
That's not their natural thing.
Like you said, like you'rereally tired in the morning you
don't fit into a nine to fivejob.
That would like not cognitivelybe good for you.
And it says yeah, so night owlscan enjoy a more peaceful
environment with no noisydistractions.
(16:11):
So they enjoy that.
They tend to be more sharper andmore focused.
This one was interesting.
It does.
There is a correlation betweennight owl and being more social
creatures and or having a higher, higher level of alcoholism.
But they also were like well,what do you do at night?
(16:32):
Like the things that are openat night are like bars, social
things, stuff like that.
So that's so.
They're like ah, is it acorrelation between drinking too
much or is it just like?
People don't drink at five am,so like the morning, people are
not drinking mimosas, you know,so they're having coffee.
So that that could not be astatistical correlation, but it
just is something.
Night owls can concentratelonger and achieve more than
(16:56):
early risers.
That's an interesting one.
And then, yeah, traditionaljobs and school scheduleings are
not your thing, but good newsis that remote work has solved
that issue.
Sadly, night owls may faceother concerns like mental
health issues and metabolicrisks.
But on the upside it says a lotof creative thoughts out there
work at night, when it's verypeaceful and quiet.
(17:17):
So recent research indicatesthat certain genetic markers
decide whether we are naturallyinclined to be an early bird or
night owl.
By understanding yourchronotype, you can plan your
work schedule and taskseffectively to utilize your peak
performance periods.
So this is what they're talkingabout, where, like, people just
don't follow these orunderstand these, so they're not
getting the most out of theirproductivity.
But if you understand yourchronotype and your specific
(17:40):
sleep schedule and or how yourbody functions, then you can
like take advantage of thatthroughout the day and be the
most productive you can be.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I like it.
I also know like if I get on aproject like I will, I could
stay up until like two or threeam, until it's finished.
But, like if I get on a projectat like nine am, I'm like I
need to take a break.
I need to like go eat lunch.
I need to like I need to go getan energy drink I need to go
(18:12):
like, for whatever reason, I cansit in front of the computer at
night for hours and never getup, but in the morning like I
have this craving to like get upand break it up and like get
distracted yeah yeah yeah, sovery, very strange.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, okay, I really appreciate you answering those.
Those were really good, okay,bye.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Okay, bye.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
That's a wrap for today.
I'll leave you here with theseintellectual snacks to think
about and you can tell me whatyou think by leaving us a
comment on the podcast orsending us an email to my and
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We'll see you next time and, asalways, keep being inquisitive.
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