November 12, 2023 • 30 mins
Are you a lark, an owl, or a third bird? Our exploration into idioms and proverbs takes a fascinating twist as we dive headfirst into the world of circadian rhythms and productivity.
Next, we turn our attention to the impact of different chronotypes on our daily routines. With the help of cutting-edge research, we explore these questions and more, suggesting ways you can optimize your schedule based on your chronotype.
Finally, we delve into the profound effects of circadian rhythms on our overall health. From investigating the correlation between night owls and health issues to discussing the significance of good sleep hygiene, we leave no stone unturned. So, whether you pride yourself on catching the worm or being the second mouse to the cheese this episode is for you!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Oh you, oh yeah.
Hello, podcast family, this isyour unoriginal host, afton Jay,
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and I'm happy to be hanging outwith you wherever you are today
.
I started this podcast becauseI've always loved fun facts,
history and culture.
I consume so many books andpodcasts that it made sense I
would find friends out therethat loved some of the same
things that I do.
And boom, my unoriginal thoughtpodcast was born.
I don't know how many othernerds out there are going to
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want to hear about thefascinating world of idioms, but
we're going to go on thisadventure together.
Let's get into the intellectualjourney that is this episode.
As always, none of what we'lltalk about today is my original
thoughts, but I'll attempt torepackage other people's
original ideas and talk throughthem so we can learn and laugh
together.
I'm going to try to bring youthe most interesting and useless
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knowledge in the most thoughtprovoking and entertaining way.
I know how.
Okay, let's do this.
Today's episode is the earlybird gets the worm Rise and
shine.
The early bird gets the worm.
To any motivated morning person, this might be enough to get
you leaping out of bed to startyour list of awesome daily
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activities, ready to take on theworld and get everything on
your to-do list accomplished.
To any non-morning person,these words could be the most
annoying thing you hear all day.
Why wake up with a crack ofdawn when all you want to do is
sleep in because you have allnight to be up and get the
things done, as the night owlyou are, regardless if you're a
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morning lark or a night owl.
This expression is superinteresting and deserves to be
explained.
Let's start with the origin ofthe saying.
Here's the part of the showwhere we play this super fun
game.
What the Idiom where we haveunsuspecting friends.
Guess the origin of this week'sphrase.
Let's start with our firstfriend.
Where do you think the earlybird gets the worm comes from
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Like?
What is the origin of thatproverb?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I think it's the bird that wakes up the earliest in
the morning gets the worms,because the worms come out of
the ground in the morning.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah that's what it means.
Where do you think the origincomes from?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
If you had to take a guess where do you think it
comes from?
The period it comes from, whothought of it?
Why they thought of it?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I would say farmers, worm farmers.
They would be like oh, thatearly bird got up before me and
ate all my worms.
That's where I think it comesfrom.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's a good story, the worm farmers.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Worm farmers.
Okay, you can google it Solid.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I googled that answer and unfortunately I did not
find anything about worm farmers.
Good guess, but that answer isincorrect.
Maybe our next friend has abetter guess.
Where do you think the originof the early bird gets the worm
originally comes from?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Oh, the early bird gets the worm.
I would imagine it would havesomething to do with hunting or
fishing or something along thoselines.
I mean the origin.
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Nowadays we think of it as hey,wake up, get after it, go
correct your day Back then Ifeel like it's a hunt to survive
or a fish to survive.
You should probably wake upearly to go do so.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You're saying some random dove hunter, slash
fisherman was like hey, broskies, the early bird gets the worm.
And the rest of them were likeoh yeah, yeah, that's gold.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Oh yeah, yep, the early bird gets the worm.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
My brother was like well, what if you're the worm?
I have not thought about itfrom that perspective.
So then the late worm staysalive Very true, very true, okay
, yeah, yeah that's 100 percent,not it, but that was a great
job.
Hunter slash Fishermen.
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Good try, but we still have notexplained the origin of this
idiom.
Let's try one more guess.
Where do you think the earlybird gets the worm comes?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
from.
I feel like it sounds silly tosay like, oh, like it's an
England term, I don't know like.
To me this is gonna sound sostupid.
To me it sounds like fancy,like an old English expression,
you know.
So I would say I don't knowlike, can you really like an old
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English dude?
That's what I feel like thatexpression would come from.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
It wasn't an old.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
English dude.
I'm so proud of myself.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah, it was an old English dude that wrote an
old English book.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
You nailed it.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, I'm like wow, I should goget my doctorate in English.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You should go get your doctorate.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I'm the smartest woman alive.
I'm the smartest.
I always wondered, too, wherethat comes from.
Like the early bird gets theworm, like it's just something.
Like I feel like everyone hasheard their whole life.
I know that is the point of thepodcast.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
All of these grusses are so funny.
Thank you for everyone thatplayed along.
Now let's get back to theorigin story First of all.
Someone say this is not an idiom, but a proverb An idiom being a
saying that are often lessclear and need some context to
understand.
A proverb provides a piece ofuniversally accepted knowledge.
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I think this expression ispretty clear, the bird being you
and the worm being well theprize, we get it.
It's not as complex as somesayings like bite the bullet or
blood is thicker than water,which we'll explain in future
episodes.
Shameless plug keep listening.
The Cambridge dictionarydefines the meaning as a saying
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that means someone will have anadvantage if they do something
immediately or before otherpeople do it.
Other definitions state this isan old proverb which emphasizes
the importance of startingsomething early to maximize the
potential outcome.
All of the research says thatthe definitions are always
something of this nature If youdo things early, you will be
rewarded.
As an extreme planner, I wouldsay I live and die by this
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statement, but for mynon-planers out there, I know
this can make you absolutelycringe.
I have friends that are alwaysdoing things by the seat of
their pants and it seems to workout for them.
This English expression was saidto have first appeared in 1605
in a book of Proverbs by WilliamCamden.
However, some say the text wasnot actually added until the
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third edition in 1623.
It was a collection of themedhistorical essays conceived as a
more popular companion to hisbook Britannia.
This was the only book Camdenwrote in English.
His other works were in Latinand written as serious works.
He describes the work as merelybeing the rude and rubble,
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out-cash rubbish of a greater,more serious work, which was
Britannia.
For being just a rude, rubbleand out-cash rubbish, his
expression has lasted the testof time.
Can you imagine if WilliamCamden was here today and he was
able to see what happened tohis proverb?
I can just imagine him beinglike.
For what is this?
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Tiktok-ith and me-myth.
Okay, that's a horribleimpression, but can you imagine?
It showed up again in 1670, andit was published in a book of a
collection of English Proverbsby John Ray.
However, the fact that it wasin this book of well-established
proverbs at the time shows thatit had likely been an important
figure of speech in the Englishlanguage for quite some time
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before that and it had been usedbefore it was put in the book.
This is a literary classic thatyou've probably already read,
but let me remind you what JohnRay said about our idiom here.
As it was stated by Mr Ray,"'tis the early bird that
catcheth the worm".
We have modernized the saying.
Now, as most people would say,the early bird catches the worm
or the early bird gets the wormNot as fancy as the way Mr Ray
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says it, but it all means thesame thing, and if you really
want to annoy your night owlfriends the next time you wake
them up at the crack of dawn,you might try the old school
version of the saying "'Goodmorning.
Tis the early bird that catchesthe worm'".
I'm sure they will love that.
This phrase is so commonly usedthat it's even shortened to
early bird on occasion, such asearly bird specials that you
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might see in restaurants orstores.
The phrase early bird mightconjure up the picture of old
people eating dinner at 4.30 orgetting half price tickets at
the movie theater for anyone tootired to see the movie at 9pm,
which I now understand why thiscan be popular.
As I get older, I too wantdinner early and I just want to
go to bed.
Saturday nights for me now areworking, eating, writing the
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podcast and then going to bed atlike 8.30.
I'm super exciting now that I'min my 30s.
In my 20s I could get all theworms all morning and stay up
all night with the night owls.
Now I would just die.
Maybe Mr Camden was in his 30swhen he wrote the saying for his
first book.
I can imagine him slumped overhis wooden chair, quill in hand,
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thinking about what to do thatnight.
I'm like do I hang it out withmy friends at the old yee-pub or
catch a poetry reading?
Maybe I will eat dinner at 4.30and go to bed and rise to
awaken and be productive likethe birds that catch the worms.
That's a really horribleimpression, but I can just
imagine that happening.
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Now that we have discussed theorigins of the early bird gets
the worm, how do we use thisphrase?
Does the early bird really getthe worm For morning people or
night people?
More successful researchconducted is polarizing and
contradictory.
However, there is some veryinteresting research about
morning larks and night owls.
The first book we will talkabout is Daniel H Pink's
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bestseller when the ScientificSecrets of Perfect Timing.
I loved this book.
He has several books oninteresting topics, but for
someone who loves understandinghow humans tick, this book is
amazing.
I learned so much about myselfand how to make my day more
productive.
It's engaging and worth alisten on Audible or a Good Read
.
The link is in my podcast notes.
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Here are some very interestingtidbits from the book that are
worth checking out.
One of the main points of thebook states that, regardless of
age, race, gender andnationality, we all go through
some variants of behavioralpatterns on a daily basis.
It's good to be aware of thesepatterns so we can understand
our emotions and be moreproductive during our day.
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Our behavior is driven byfactors to include our circadian
rhythm, which drives our highsand lows throughout the day.
Over time, we can map out whatour natural rhythms are and
determine what our chronotype is.
A chronotype is the scientificterm for what we commonly refer
to as an internal clock, as wegenerally talk about internal
clocks in terms of our naturalinclination to fall asleep and
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wake up at certain hours of theday.
Chronotypes are in charge ofmuch more than just our sleep
cycle.
Our personal chronotype impactswhat type of day that you're
most focused, most creative andmost likely to make a mistake,
most likely to be in a good oreven a bad mood, and so much
more.
Daniel Pink goes on to describethese types of people in his
book, which are the lark, theowl and the third bird.
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Larks they are what you wouldconsider morning people.
On their own accord, and noteven because of work or an alarm
, they will typically get out ofbed before 7 am.
Third birds are the most commonchronotype.
They are naturally inclined towake up between 7 to 10 am.
Night owls these are our nightpeople.
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On days when they don't have toget up for work or some other
obligation, they don't like toget out of bed until after 10 am
.
Now that we know what achronotype is, what's yours,
have you ever thought about whattime you wake up and how it can
affect your daily schedule?
I've asked some friends abouttheir daily habits to see how
the research lines up with reallife.
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What time would your bodynormally wake up?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
5.30.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Okay, so you're an early bird.
What time do you think yourbody should be doing analytical
tasks?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
7.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Is that when you think that your mind works best
on analytical tasks.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Maybe yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
What about creative tasks?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Maybe 10.
10 o'clock, I'm not sure if I'ma first cup of coffee.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
That's when you're like the most creative.
Uh-huh.
Okay, what about in theafternoon?
What do you think that's goodfor?
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
work.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
What kind of work?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Manual labor.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Okay, yeah, all that makes sense.
What time does your bodynaturally wake up?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Oh, like me personally.
Yeah, you personally.
Okay, I feel like I'mdefinitely an early bird.
So out an alarm.
Like my body, I feel like,naturally wakes up let's say a
weekend day, I naturally wake upby like 6 am.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Then you are actually an early bird.
Your class five is an earlybird.
What time do you think,personally, is the best time of
day for you to get analytical?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
tasks done Charts, graphs, masks, etc.
I would say probably in themorning I feel like the most
charged and maybe after beingawake for an hour I feel like a
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little bit more alert, like Icould figure things out and take
a look at stuff.
So I would say the morning.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You know, actually you might really like this book.
If you're an early bird, youshould do your analytical tasks
in the morning, when you havemore energy in your charge.
In the afternoon, after thatlunch slump, when you're tired,
you should do your creativetasks.
But I super interesting thatthey say that like for kids,
like if your kid is an earlybird and you try to put them in
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a mask in the afternoon, theycould actually get like worst
grades and not even know it wasjust this switch from morning to
afternoon could change theirgrades.
So I got used by that.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Oh, interesting, it's so funny.
Like my class, we actually thegrade level that I'm following
this year we actually swappedour subject areas, so we are
teaching math in the morning andreading in the afternoon.
Yeah, they say it's better forkids.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Interesting, interesting and I like to get
things done, but I do like tosleep in to about nine.
I can't stay up.
I mean nine is actually prettylate for me.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So somewhere between like seven and nine, you'd be
like a third bird I love it.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yep, you're a third bird.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Okay, what are you?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I'm a third bird.
If I let my body sleep, it likewants to wake up at 7 am.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Yeah, Like I would toss and turn like just get up,
it's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, yeah, but I mean it definitely.
It was interesting talking tomy brother because we're both
like that, but because of ourjobs, if we're puffed, our
schedules and circadian rhythmsit messes everything up, right.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it's.
I mean you know that it's notgood for you, but like, yeah, I
like what I do.
I don't like doing it at 2 am.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
But right, right Sure .
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Right now.
If you let your body wake up atits time that it wants to wake
up, at what time would that befor you?
9 am.
Okay so your natural time thatyou wake up is 9 am.
Yes, what point in the day doyou feel like it is easiest for
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you to do analytical tasks likefacts or figures, or Excel
sheets or numbers?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I guess I'll say night.
Honestly I've done most of mybusiness growth has been at
night and business meeting likeanalytical things, building
systems and processes, and stufflike that all happen 8 pm and
beyond.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
So when do you think you do your more creative tasks,
like you know, creating youradvertisements or like just
thinking about abstract thingsfor your business?
What time of day is normallygood for that for you?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Throughout the day.
I think or see a lot of thingslike whether I'm talking to
clients or coaches or socialmedia or reading emails, and it
inspires me to do something, andso that inspiration comes
throughout the day, which thengives me that whole nighttime
vibe of oh, I need to go do this, I need to execute on it right
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now.
So I still feel like it's notright.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Are you?
Do you think that you've alwaysbeen someone that naturally
wakes up at 9 am, or do youthink it's changed over your
lifetime?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I feel like so.
I guess when I was younger Iwoke up a little later, so
probably at 10 or 11, like mostteenagers did.
I've never been a morningperson, so I have to have an
alarm to wake me up.
Very interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Okay, I'm glad I asked you this question.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
So what is it if I'm a night owl?
What does that say about howawesome I am?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
You said that was awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
14% of the population are larks, 21% of the
population are owls and the restof us are somewhere in between
the third bird.
Over 80% of folks go into thelark and third bird category,
meaning they should doanalytical, logic-based work in
the mornings, when they're mostalert.
More creative tasks, where it'shelpful if your mind wanders,
should be reserved for the lateafternoon.
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Larks should do the same, butearlier and night owls want to
do cognitive work late at night.
For analytical tasks, mostpeople perform better in the
morning.
A University of Chicago studyfound that scheduling math
classes in the first two periodsof a day rather than the last
two significantly boostedstudents' math GPA.
If you think about theimplications of this information
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, it could change your workplace, your kids' schooling or even
your personal relationships.
Innovation and creativity areactually higher in the afternoon
, when our energy levels andfocus drop.
We are less constrained duringthe afternoon, after that trough
the lunch and more likely totake leaps of insight Again.
Think about how this couldchange your workday if you
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organize your tasks to thismental state.
So how do you determine whatkind of bird you are?
Research shows there are lotsof different things that play
into whether you are a morningor a night person and they can
change over time.
Circadian rhythms, age,genetics, lifestyle and now
technology all play criticalroles in determining your
chronotype.
Your chronotype can also changeover time or depending on what
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environment you are in.
How do you determine yours?
Some people naturally know whenthey are most alert, but if you
wanted to get a good quiz, youcan go to Psych Central.
The link is in the show notes.
There are so many interestingchronotype things that we could
talk about and if you areinterested, I would definitely
do some research so you canlearn a little bit more, and I
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highly recommend the book whenTry to Give it a Read.
Now.
Let's look at some morehumorous research that's been
done on the topic.
Who's Smarter, the Lark or theOwl?
Ben Franklin, the most famousfounding father and noted Lark,
once advocated for a Larklifestyle.
In a famous saying early to bedand early to rise makes a man
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healthy, wealthy and wise.
It seemed to work for him.
He did everything under the sun, including being a founding
father.
He would travel all over theplace.
He invented stuff.
He just had so much energy.
I wish I had that type ofmotivation or time.
Researchers in 1998 analyzed anational sample of men and women
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who'd been surveyed yearsearlier on sleep patterns, as
well as measures related towealth, health and wisdom.
Half were Larks and half wereOwls.
Contrary to Franklin's decree,night owls had larger incomes
than morning Larks.
The two chronotypes were alsoscored roughly the same on
cognitive tests and showed noself or doctor reported health
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differences.
However, another Lark versusOwl study published the
following year looked moreclosely at the question of
brains.
Psychologist Richard D Robertsof the University of Sydney and
Patrick C Klein of the Air ForceResearch Laboratory measured
the chronotype of testparticipants and then gave them
two intelligence tests Together.
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The tasks measured vocationalknowledge ie mechanics and
engineering, general math,reading comprehension, working
memory and processing speed.
The results of this test didshow that evening types have a
slight intellectual advantage.
Night owls outperform morningLarks on most of the
intelligence measures, withsignificant differences on
working memory and processingspeed.
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Especially interesting was thatthe findings seemed to hold up
even when the cognitive testswere taken in the morning, which
would have been difficult forthe night owls.
So, according to the studies,night owls might be smarter and
make more money.
Okay, but who has the most game?
Evening types weren't just goodat scoring on intelligence tests
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, they also might be good atscoring in general.
See what I did there.
At least, that is according toone 2012 paper.
The study led by ChristophRandler of the University of
Education in Heidelberg inGermany tested 284 male
participants for theirchronotype and their sexual
behavior.
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Owls reported more totalpartners.
This held true even whenRandler and company controlled
for age, extraversion and atendency to stay out leader.
Evening types were also moreclosely linked to infidelity.
The test was only performed onmale owls, I'm just saying Owls
were also linked to be morepartial to habits like smoking
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and drinking.
Research was not clear onwhether the link is that the
owls have more addictivepersonalities or that these
activities are just associatedwith nightlife.
Yeah okay, owls might be smarter, have more money and have more
luck in the bedroom, but arelarks happier?
This is a complicated question.
Larks may be happier becausebeing a lark conforms to
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standard social norms.
They get up and they're alerted.
During normal 9-5 businesshours, they can get their work
and chores done while getting afull night's rest.
Owls don't conform to socialhours and therefore need to
break their sleeping cycle toperform normal tasks like work
or errands.
Social scientists call thisoutcome social jet lag.
Evening types that forcethemselves to wake up early and
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perform at their peak during theday might cause themselves some
sleep loss and emotionaldistress.
They might also be less happyas a result.
University of Torontopsychologists, in a 2012 paper,
after studying the chronotypesof over 800 people as well as
their moods, found that morningpeople had a higher positive
affect compared with nightpeople.
Mood isn't the same as generalhappiness, but overall, our
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larks seem to be happier on adaily basis.
Other studies have stated thatlarks tend to be more agreeable,
conscientious and proactivethan owls, which might tend to
make them more positive peopleas a whole.
However, if owls are smarter,with more money and game, it's a
toss up to which chronotype Iwould rather be On top of being
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potentially smarter and richerwhich I still need more
scientific proof of this but asa morning lark, I digress.
There are some cons to being anearly bird that catches the worm
.
As stated in another popularidiom, you can also be someone
who, quote, jumps the gun, whichmeans to start something before
you should.
This saying comes from theearly 20th century track and
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field races.
Larks were rarely punished forstarting slightly before the
gunman off to get an advantageon the competition.
It became so prevalent that itwas considered a sports trick to
quote beat the pistol.
After cracking down on thepractice, it was made illegal to
jump the gun.
I talked about this earlier.
As a super planner, it alwaysmakes me so mad when people who
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plan at the last minute dothings and it just works out
fine.
I'll plan something and someonewho waited will get a better
seat or a better deal, and itjust makes me so annoyed.
Another way to put this is thatI find even funnier than
jumping the gun, and somethingI've always had to laugh to
myself about when things don'twork out for me is the saying
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the early bird gets the worm,but the second mouse gets the
cheese.
This clever parody of theoriginal proverb is attributed
to Jim Horning.
It suggests that in somesituations it's better to be
first, but in others it's evenmore powerful to be second.
In this case, the first mouseis killed by the trap and the
second gets the bait.
But such is life.
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All of this research and Idon't know which one is better
being a lark or being an owl,being the bird that gets the
worm, or the second mouse to thecheese that is an incredible
amount of information and thingsto ponder.
I will leave you here with theseintellectual snacks to think
about, and you can tell me whatyou think about the podcast by
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I want to hear from you.
What did you like and what doyou want to see in the future?
Which idiom do you want us toexplore next time?
If you have any insight ontoday's topic something I missed
or I just didn't get right, oryou want to be featured in a
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That's a wrap for today.
Thank you so much for beingwith us to learn and laugh our
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I'm your host, afton Jay.
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I thank you for hanging outwith me and, as always, keep
being inquisitive.
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enough of this episode, we willalways have bloopers and other
interesting conversationsincluded afterwards.
If you're interested, juststick around.
Bloopers oh yeah, every timeit's like okay and go and it's
like a laugh.
This could be dangerous.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Because I'm like that person that you don't look at
during serious things, becauseI'm going to laugh.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I know, I know it's hard, it's hard, it's like.
You know you're not the originof the Eibor.
I have the absolute Z-R-I clue.
Have you had to, like, take aguess even more like region or
time period it's from?
I don't know.
I would think farming,something to do with farming.
You are not the only one thatthinks it's farming.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Really.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah, yeah, we've gotten like farming hunters,
like all of that kind of answer,and I was like, okay, yeah,
farmers wake up early, so thatmakes sense.
But yeah, that's all I know.
Yeah, that's a good guessthough.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
The farmers.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, yeah, I know that that's probably a pretty
good guess.
That's, let's see, it is from aliterary term that again comes
from the English language.
But I mean, you never know,maybe this writer was like
sitting on a knoll and he waslike look at those farmers,
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they're up real early andthere's birds.
And I was like I'm going to putall that together into a book.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
I don't know.
All right, I like to think,girl, you're going to have to,
I'm going to have to lick it upmyself.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I well, it would be great for the podcast to come
out.
If you want.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Okay, ha, gotta love those bloopers.
That's a wrap.
Yep, we're all done here.
Oh wait, were you looking forsome more fun facts?
Okay, check out the nextepisode.
Press play let's go.
Oh you, oh yeah.
Hello, podcast family, this isyour unoriginal host, afton Jay,
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and I'm happy to be hanging outwith you wherever you are today
.
I started this podcast becauseI've always loved fun facts,
history and culture.
I consume so many books andpodcasts that it made sense I
would find friends out therethat loved some of the same
things that I do.
And boom, my unoriginal thoughtpodcast was born.
I don't know how many othernerds out there are going to
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want to hear about thefascinating world of idioms, but
we're going to go on thisadventure together.
Let's get into the intellectualjourney that is this episode.
As always, none of what we'lltalk about today is my original
thoughts, but I'll attempt torepackage other people's
original ideas and talk throughthem so we can learn and laugh
together.
I'm going to try to bring youthe most interesting and useless
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knowledge in the most thoughtprovoking and entertaining way.
I know how.
Okay, let's do this.
Today's episode is the earlybird gets the worm Rise and
shine.
The early bird gets the worm.
To any motivated morning person, this might be enough to get
you leaping out of bed to startyour list of awesome daily
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activities, ready to take on theworld and get everything on
your to-do list accomplished.
To any non-morning person,these words could be the most
annoying thing you hear all day.
Why wake up with a crack ofdawn when all you want to do is
sleep in because you have allnight to be up and get the
things done, as the night owlyou are, regardless if you're a
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morning lark or a night owl.
This expression is superinteresting and deserves to be
explained.
Let's start with the origin ofthe saying.
Here's the part of the showwhere we play this super fun
game.
What the Idiom where we haveunsuspecting friends.
Guess the origin of this week'sphrase.
Let's start with our firstfriend.
Where do you think the earlybird gets the worm comes from
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Like?
What is the origin of thatproverb?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I think it's the bird that wakes up the earliest in
the morning gets the worms,because the worms come out of
the ground in the morning.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah that's what it means.
Where do you think the origincomes from?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
If you had to take a guess where do you think it
comes from?
The period it comes from, whothought of it?
Why they thought of it?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I would say farmers, worm farmers.
They would be like oh, thatearly bird got up before me and
ate all my worms.
That's where I think it comesfrom.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's a good story, the worm farmers.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Worm farmers.
Okay, you can google it Solid.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I googled that answer and unfortunately I did not
find anything about worm farmers.
Good guess, but that answer isincorrect.
Maybe our next friend has abetter guess.
Where do you think the originof the early bird gets the worm
originally comes from?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Oh, the early bird gets the worm.
I would imagine it would havesomething to do with hunting or
fishing or something along thoselines.
I mean the origin.
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Nowadays we think of it as hey,wake up, get after it, go
correct your day Back then Ifeel like it's a hunt to survive
or a fish to survive.
You should probably wake upearly to go do so.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You're saying some random dove hunter, slash
fisherman was like hey, broskies, the early bird gets the worm.
And the rest of them were likeoh yeah, yeah, that's gold.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Oh yeah, yep, the early bird gets the worm.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
My brother was like well, what if you're the worm?
I have not thought about itfrom that perspective.
So then the late worm staysalive Very true, very true, okay
, yeah, yeah that's 100 percent,not it, but that was a great
job.
Hunter slash Fishermen.
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Good try, but we still have notexplained the origin of this
idiom.
Let's try one more guess.
Where do you think the earlybird gets the worm comes?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
from.
I feel like it sounds silly tosay like, oh, like it's an
England term, I don't know like.
To me this is gonna sound sostupid.
To me it sounds like fancy,like an old English expression,
you know.
So I would say I don't knowlike, can you really like an old
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English dude?
That's what I feel like thatexpression would come from.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
It wasn't an old.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
English dude.
I'm so proud of myself.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah, it was an old English dude that wrote an
old English book.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
You nailed it.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, I'm like wow, I should goget my doctorate in English.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You should go get your doctorate.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I'm the smartest woman alive.
I'm the smartest.
I always wondered, too, wherethat comes from.
Like the early bird gets theworm, like it's just something.
Like I feel like everyone hasheard their whole life.
I know that is the point of thepodcast.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
All of these grusses are so funny.
Thank you for everyone thatplayed along.
Now let's get back to theorigin story First of all.
Someone say this is not an idiom, but a proverb An idiom being a
saying that are often lessclear and need some context to
understand.
A proverb provides a piece ofuniversally accepted knowledge.
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I think this expression ispretty clear, the bird being you
and the worm being well theprize, we get it.
It's not as complex as somesayings like bite the bullet or
blood is thicker than water,which we'll explain in future
episodes.
Shameless plug keep listening.
The Cambridge dictionarydefines the meaning as a saying
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that means someone will have anadvantage if they do something
immediately or before otherpeople do it.
Other definitions state this isan old proverb which emphasizes
the importance of startingsomething early to maximize the
potential outcome.
All of the research says thatthe definitions are always
something of this nature If youdo things early, you will be
rewarded.
As an extreme planner, I wouldsay I live and die by this
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statement, but for mynon-planers out there, I know
this can make you absolutelycringe.
I have friends that are alwaysdoing things by the seat of
their pants and it seems to workout for them.
This English expression was saidto have first appeared in 1605
in a book of Proverbs by WilliamCamden.
However, some say the text wasnot actually added until the
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third edition in 1623.
It was a collection of themedhistorical essays conceived as a
more popular companion to hisbook Britannia.
This was the only book Camdenwrote in English.
His other works were in Latinand written as serious works.
He describes the work as merelybeing the rude and rubble,
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out-cash rubbish of a greater,more serious work, which was
Britannia.
For being just a rude, rubbleand out-cash rubbish, his
expression has lasted the testof time.
Can you imagine if WilliamCamden was here today and he was
able to see what happened tohis proverb?
I can just imagine him beinglike.
For what is this?
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Tiktok-ith and me-myth.
Okay, that's a horribleimpression, but can you imagine?
It showed up again in 1670, andit was published in a book of a
collection of English Proverbsby John Ray.
However, the fact that it wasin this book of well-established
proverbs at the time shows thatit had likely been an important
figure of speech in the Englishlanguage for quite some time
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before that and it had been usedbefore it was put in the book.
This is a literary classic thatyou've probably already read,
but let me remind you what JohnRay said about our idiom here.
As it was stated by Mr Ray,"'tis the early bird that
catcheth the worm".
We have modernized the saying.
Now, as most people would say,the early bird catches the worm
or the early bird gets the wormNot as fancy as the way Mr Ray
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says it, but it all means thesame thing, and if you really
want to annoy your night owlfriends the next time you wake
them up at the crack of dawn,you might try the old school
version of the saying "'Goodmorning.
Tis the early bird that catchesthe worm'".
I'm sure they will love that.
This phrase is so commonly usedthat it's even shortened to
early bird on occasion, such asearly bird specials that you
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might see in restaurants orstores.
The phrase early bird mightconjure up the picture of old
people eating dinner at 4.30 orgetting half price tickets at
the movie theater for anyone tootired to see the movie at 9pm,
which I now understand why thiscan be popular.
As I get older, I too wantdinner early and I just want to
go to bed.
Saturday nights for me now areworking, eating, writing the
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podcast and then going to bed atlike 8.30.
I'm super exciting now that I'min my 30s.
In my 20s I could get all theworms all morning and stay up
all night with the night owls.
Now I would just die.
Maybe Mr Camden was in his 30swhen he wrote the saying for his
first book.
I can imagine him slumped overhis wooden chair, quill in hand,
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thinking about what to do thatnight.
I'm like do I hang it out withmy friends at the old yee-pub or
catch a poetry reading?
Maybe I will eat dinner at 4.30and go to bed and rise to
awaken and be productive likethe birds that catch the worms.
That's a really horribleimpression, but I can just
imagine that happening.
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Now that we have discussed theorigins of the early bird gets
the worm, how do we use thisphrase?
Does the early bird really getthe worm For morning people or
night people?
More successful researchconducted is polarizing and
contradictory.
However, there is some veryinteresting research about
morning larks and night owls.
The first book we will talkabout is Daniel H Pink's
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bestseller when the ScientificSecrets of Perfect Timing.
I loved this book.
He has several books oninteresting topics, but for
someone who loves understandinghow humans tick, this book is
amazing.
I learned so much about myselfand how to make my day more
productive.
It's engaging and worth alisten on Audible or a Good Read
.
The link is in my podcast notes.
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Here are some very interestingtidbits from the book that are
worth checking out.
One of the main points of thebook states that, regardless of
age, race, gender andnationality, we all go through
some variants of behavioralpatterns on a daily basis.
It's good to be aware of thesepatterns so we can understand
our emotions and be moreproductive during our day.
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Our behavior is driven byfactors to include our circadian
rhythm, which drives our highsand lows throughout the day.
Over time, we can map out whatour natural rhythms are and
determine what our chronotype is.
A chronotype is the scientificterm for what we commonly refer
to as an internal clock, as wegenerally talk about internal
clocks in terms of our naturalinclination to fall asleep and
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wake up at certain hours of theday.
Chronotypes are in charge ofmuch more than just our sleep
cycle.
Our personal chronotype impactswhat type of day that you're
most focused, most creative andmost likely to make a mistake,
most likely to be in a good oreven a bad mood, and so much
more.
Daniel Pink goes on to describethese types of people in his
book, which are the lark, theowl and the third bird.
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Larks they are what you wouldconsider morning people.
On their own accord, and noteven because of work or an alarm
, they will typically get out ofbed before 7 am.
Third birds are the most commonchronotype.
They are naturally inclined towake up between 7 to 10 am.
Night owls these are our nightpeople.
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On days when they don't have toget up for work or some other
obligation, they don't like toget out of bed until after 10 am
.
Now that we know what achronotype is, what's yours,
have you ever thought about whattime you wake up and how it can
affect your daily schedule?
I've asked some friends abouttheir daily habits to see how
the research lines up with reallife.
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What time would your bodynormally wake up?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
5.30.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Okay, so you're an early bird.
What time do you think yourbody should be doing analytical
tasks?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
7.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Is that when you think that your mind works best
on analytical tasks.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Maybe yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
What about creative tasks?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Maybe 10.
10 o'clock, I'm not sure if I'ma first cup of coffee.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
That's when you're like the most creative.
Uh-huh.
Okay, what about in theafternoon?
What do you think that's goodfor?
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
work.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
What kind of work?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Manual labor.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Okay, yeah, all that makes sense.
What time does your bodynaturally wake up?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Oh, like me personally.
Yeah, you personally.
Okay, I feel like I'mdefinitely an early bird.
So out an alarm.
Like my body, I feel like,naturally wakes up let's say a
weekend day, I naturally wake upby like 6 am.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Then you are actually an early bird.
Your class five is an earlybird.
What time do you think,personally, is the best time of
day for you to get analytical?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
tasks done Charts, graphs, masks, etc.
I would say probably in themorning I feel like the most
charged and maybe after beingawake for an hour I feel like a
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little bit more alert, like Icould figure things out and take
a look at stuff.
So I would say the morning.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You know, actually you might really like this book.
If you're an early bird, youshould do your analytical tasks
in the morning, when you havemore energy in your charge.
In the afternoon, after thatlunch slump, when you're tired,
you should do your creativetasks.
But I super interesting thatthey say that like for kids,
like if your kid is an earlybird and you try to put them in
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a mask in the afternoon, theycould actually get like worst
grades and not even know it wasjust this switch from morning to
afternoon could change theirgrades.
So I got used by that.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Oh, interesting, it's so funny.
Like my class, we actually thegrade level that I'm following
this year we actually swappedour subject areas, so we are
teaching math in the morning andreading in the afternoon.
Yeah, they say it's better forkids.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Interesting, interesting and I like to get
things done, but I do like tosleep in to about nine.
I can't stay up.
I mean nine is actually prettylate for me.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So somewhere between like seven and nine, you'd be
like a third bird I love it.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yep, you're a third bird.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Okay, what are you?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I'm a third bird.
If I let my body sleep, it likewants to wake up at 7 am.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Yeah, Like I would toss and turn like just get up,
it's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, yeah, but I mean it definitely.
It was interesting talking tomy brother because we're both
like that, but because of ourjobs, if we're puffed, our
schedules and circadian rhythmsit messes everything up, right.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it's.
I mean you know that it's notgood for you, but like, yeah, I
like what I do.
I don't like doing it at 2 am.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
But right, right Sure .
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Right now.
If you let your body wake up atits time that it wants to wake
up, at what time would that befor you?
9 am.
Okay so your natural time thatyou wake up is 9 am.
Yes, what point in the day doyou feel like it is easiest for
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you to do analytical tasks likefacts or figures, or Excel
sheets or numbers?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I guess I'll say night.
Honestly I've done most of mybusiness growth has been at
night and business meeting likeanalytical things, building
systems and processes, and stufflike that all happen 8 pm and
beyond.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
So when do you think you do your more creative tasks,
like you know, creating youradvertisements or like just
thinking about abstract thingsfor your business?
What time of day is normallygood for that for you?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Throughout the day.
I think or see a lot of thingslike whether I'm talking to
clients or coaches or socialmedia or reading emails, and it
inspires me to do something, andso that inspiration comes
throughout the day, which thengives me that whole nighttime
vibe of oh, I need to go do this, I need to execute on it right
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now.
So I still feel like it's notright.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Are you?
Do you think that you've alwaysbeen someone that naturally
wakes up at 9 am, or do youthink it's changed over your
lifetime?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I feel like so.
I guess when I was younger Iwoke up a little later, so
probably at 10 or 11, like mostteenagers did.
I've never been a morningperson, so I have to have an
alarm to wake me up.
Very interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Okay, I'm glad I asked you this question.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
So what is it if I'm a night owl?
What does that say about howawesome I am?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
You said that was awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
14% of the population are larks, 21% of the
population are owls and the restof us are somewhere in between
the third bird.
Over 80% of folks go into thelark and third bird category,
meaning they should doanalytical, logic-based work in
the mornings, when they're mostalert.
More creative tasks, where it'shelpful if your mind wanders,
should be reserved for the lateafternoon.
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Larks should do the same, butearlier and night owls want to
do cognitive work late at night.
For analytical tasks, mostpeople perform better in the
morning.
A University of Chicago studyfound that scheduling math
classes in the first two periodsof a day rather than the last
two significantly boostedstudents' math GPA.
If you think about theimplications of this information
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, it could change your workplace, your kids' schooling or even
your personal relationships.
Innovation and creativity areactually higher in the afternoon
, when our energy levels andfocus drop.
We are less constrained duringthe afternoon, after that trough
the lunch and more likely totake leaps of insight Again.
Think about how this couldchange your workday if you
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organize your tasks to thismental state.
So how do you determine whatkind of bird you are?
Research shows there are lotsof different things that play
into whether you are a morningor a night person and they can
change over time.
Circadian rhythms, age,genetics, lifestyle and now
technology all play criticalroles in determining your
chronotype.
Your chronotype can also changeover time or depending on what
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environment you are in.
How do you determine yours?
Some people naturally know whenthey are most alert, but if you
wanted to get a good quiz, youcan go to Psych Central.
The link is in the show notes.
There are so many interestingchronotype things that we could
talk about and if you areinterested, I would definitely
do some research so you canlearn a little bit more, and I
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highly recommend the book whenTry to Give it a Read.
Now.
Let's look at some morehumorous research that's been
done on the topic.
Who's Smarter, the Lark or theOwl?
Ben Franklin, the most famousfounding father and noted Lark,
once advocated for a Larklifestyle.
In a famous saying early to bedand early to rise makes a man
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healthy, wealthy and wise.
It seemed to work for him.
He did everything under the sun, including being a founding
father.
He would travel all over theplace.
He invented stuff.
He just had so much energy.
I wish I had that type ofmotivation or time.
Researchers in 1998 analyzed anational sample of men and women
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who'd been surveyed yearsearlier on sleep patterns, as
well as measures related towealth, health and wisdom.
Half were Larks and half wereOwls.
Contrary to Franklin's decree,night owls had larger incomes
than morning Larks.
The two chronotypes were alsoscored roughly the same on
cognitive tests and showed noself or doctor reported health
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differences.
However, another Lark versusOwl study published the
following year looked moreclosely at the question of
brains.
Psychologist Richard D Robertsof the University of Sydney and
Patrick C Klein of the Air ForceResearch Laboratory measured
the chronotype of testparticipants and then gave them
two intelligence tests Together.
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The tasks measured vocationalknowledge ie mechanics and
engineering, general math,reading comprehension, working
memory and processing speed.
The results of this test didshow that evening types have a
slight intellectual advantage.
Night owls outperform morningLarks on most of the
intelligence measures, withsignificant differences on
working memory and processingspeed.
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Especially interesting was thatthe findings seemed to hold up
even when the cognitive testswere taken in the morning, which
would have been difficult forthe night owls.
So, according to the studies,night owls might be smarter and
make more money.
Okay, but who has the most game?
Evening types weren't just goodat scoring on intelligence tests
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, they also might be good atscoring in general.
See what I did there.
At least, that is according toone 2012 paper.
The study led by ChristophRandler of the University of
Education in Heidelberg inGermany tested 284 male
participants for theirchronotype and their sexual
behavior.
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Owls reported more totalpartners.
This held true even whenRandler and company controlled
for age, extraversion and atendency to stay out leader.
Evening types were also moreclosely linked to infidelity.
The test was only performed onmale owls, I'm just saying Owls
were also linked to be morepartial to habits like smoking
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and drinking.
Research was not clear onwhether the link is that the
owls have more addictivepersonalities or that these
activities are just associatedwith nightlife.
Yeah okay, owls might be smarter, have more money and have more
luck in the bedroom, but arelarks happier?
This is a complicated question.
Larks may be happier becausebeing a lark conforms to
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standard social norms.
They get up and they're alerted.
During normal 9-5 businesshours, they can get their work
and chores done while getting afull night's rest.
Owls don't conform to socialhours and therefore need to
break their sleeping cycle toperform normal tasks like work
or errands.
Social scientists call thisoutcome social jet lag.
Evening types that forcethemselves to wake up early and
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perform at their peak during theday might cause themselves some
sleep loss and emotionaldistress.
They might also be less happyas a result.
University of Torontopsychologists, in a 2012 paper,
after studying the chronotypesof over 800 people as well as
their moods, found that morningpeople had a higher positive
affect compared with nightpeople.
Mood isn't the same as generalhappiness, but overall, our
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larks seem to be happier on adaily basis.
Other studies have stated thatlarks tend to be more agreeable,
conscientious and proactivethan owls, which might tend to
make them more positive peopleas a whole.
However, if owls are smarter,with more money and game, it's a
toss up to which chronotype Iwould rather be On top of being
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potentially smarter and richerwhich I still need more
scientific proof of this but asa morning lark, I digress.
There are some cons to being anearly bird that catches the worm
.
As stated in another popularidiom, you can also be someone
who, quote, jumps the gun, whichmeans to start something before
you should.
This saying comes from theearly 20th century track and
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field races.
Larks were rarely punished forstarting slightly before the
gunman off to get an advantageon the competition.
It became so prevalent that itwas considered a sports trick to
quote beat the pistol.
After cracking down on thepractice, it was made illegal to
jump the gun.
I talked about this earlier.
As a super planner, it alwaysmakes me so mad when people who
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plan at the last minute dothings and it just works out
fine.
I'll plan something and someonewho waited will get a better
seat or a better deal, and itjust makes me so annoyed.
Another way to put this is thatI find even funnier than
jumping the gun, and somethingI've always had to laugh to
myself about when things don'twork out for me is the saying
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the early bird gets the worm,but the second mouse gets the
cheese.
This clever parody of theoriginal proverb is attributed
to Jim Horning.
It suggests that in somesituations it's better to be
first, but in others it's evenmore powerful to be second.
In this case, the first mouseis killed by the trap and the
second gets the bait.
But such is life.
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All of this research and Idon't know which one is better
being a lark or being an owl,being the bird that gets the
worm, or the second mouse to thecheese that is an incredible
amount of information and thingsto ponder.
I will leave you here with theseintellectual snacks to think
about, and you can tell me whatyou think about the podcast by
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leaving us a comment or sendingus an email to my
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I'm your host, afton Jay.
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I thank you for hanging outwith me and, as always, keep
being inquisitive.
Hey, I just wanted to let youknow that if you couldn't get
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enough of this episode, we willalways have bloopers and other
interesting conversationsincluded afterwards.
If you're interested, juststick around.
Bloopers oh yeah, every timeit's like okay and go and it's
like a laugh.
This could be dangerous.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Because I'm like that person that you don't look at
during serious things, becauseI'm going to laugh.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I know, I know it's hard, it's hard, it's like.
You know you're not the originof the Eibor.
I have the absolute Z-R-I clue.
Have you had to, like, take aguess even more like region or
time period it's from?
I don't know.
I would think farming,something to do with farming.
You are not the only one thatthinks it's farming.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Really.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah, yeah, we've gotten like farming hunters,
like all of that kind of answer,and I was like, okay, yeah,
farmers wake up early, so thatmakes sense.
But yeah, that's all I know.
Yeah, that's a good guessthough.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
The farmers.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, yeah, I know that that's probably a pretty
good guess.
That's, let's see, it is from aliterary term that again comes
from the English language.
But I mean, you never know,maybe this writer was like
sitting on a knoll and he waslike look at those farmers,
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they're up real early andthere's birds.
And I was like I'm going to putall that together into a book.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
I don't know.
All right, I like to think,girl, you're going to have to,
I'm going to have to lick it upmyself.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I well, it would be great for the podcast to come
out.
If you want.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Okay, ha, gotta love those bloopers.
That's a wrap.
Yep, we're all done here.
Oh wait, were you looking forsome more fun facts?
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