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January 27, 2025 20 mins

Can Burbank afford to risk over $30 million in federal funding to become a sanctuary city? We're tackling this provocative question head-on, revealing the complex layers of a decision that could redefine the city's future. As the City Council gears up for a pivotal vote, we break down the potential benefits of fostering trust within immigrant communities against the looming threat of financial repercussions. Our friends at Notebook LM join us to unravel the multifaceted debate, analyzing the role immigrants play across Burbank's vital industries such as entertainment, tourism, and construction. 

Listeners will gain insights into the legal challenges Burbank might face, including the Trump administration's aggressive stance on immigration enforcement and the California Values Act's existing limitations. We bring to light the precarious balance Burbank must maintain between inclusivity and financial viability, drawing parallels with cities like San Francisco. This episode aims to empower our audience with a thorough understanding of the stakes involved—not just for Burbank but for the nation—encouraging engagement and informed discussion as these significant developments unfold.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is another edition of my Burbank News.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hello Burbank.
Craig Stewart, here with youonce again, and today we're
going to dive into shouldBurbank become a sanctuary city
or not.
The City Council will be takingthis up on Tuesday night at
their meeting and it'll beinteresting to see which
direction they go With thethreat of federal funding for
our airport or other types offunding that could be frozen by

(00:29):
the government compared to therights of immigrants.
So we asked our friends atNotebook LM to weigh in on the
matter.
They reviewed all the threereports and let's see what they
have to say.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Ready to dive into something that's got everyone in
Burbank buzzing.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
It's the question on everyone's minds what happens if
Burbank actually becomes aso-called sanctuary city?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Right.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
We've got stacks of reports, policies, serious
warnings, even from the federalgovernment.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
This is about your city, your life and potentially
even your wallet.
Absolutely, it is a complex webyour life and potentially even
your wallet.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Absolutely.
It is a complex web, for sure.
Yeah, we're talking immigrationlaw.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Local government and the future of those Burbank
projects you've been hearingabout.
Right, we'll try and untangleit all and see what it really
means for you in Burbank.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Okay, so first things first is Burbank already a
sanctuary city?

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Well, technically no.
Okay, already a sanctuary city?
Well, technically no, buthere's where it gets interesting
.
Burbank has to followCalifornia state law Right,
Specifically the CaliforniaValues Act.
Ok, think of it kind of likesanctuary light for the whole
state.
It puts limits on how muchBurbank police can work with
federal immigration authorities.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
So give me an example , like if you're a Burbank
police officer and you pullsomeone over for speeding, can
you ask about their immigrationstatus?

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Nope, not under the California Values Act.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
And you can't hold someone just because ICE calls
and asks you to Right.
There are very specific rules,mostly about serious or violent
crimes.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
But in many everyday situations, Burbank police have
their hands tied when it comesto immigration enforcement.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Okay, so they're already following some of these
sanctuary rules.
Then what would actually changeif Burbank went all the way and
officially declared themselvesa sanctuary city?
Would it just be symbolic?

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, that's the debate.
Some say it's about sending amessage Burbank welcomes
immigrants.
Others argue that it could havereal world consequences.
Imagine someone who'sundocumented witnessing a crime
In a sanctuary city.
They might feel morecomfortable going to the police
or a family needing health careor other city services.
They might be more likely toaccess them without that fear.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
So potential benefits for Burbank residents, but I
bet there are some seriousdownsides too right, especially
when we're talking about thefederal government and money.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
You hit the nail on the head.
The big one is federal funding.
We're talking about millions ofdollars that Burbank relies on,
and President Trump has made itvery clear he wants to cut off
funding to sanctuary cities.
He even has a new executiveorder and a Justice Department
memo to back it up.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Wow, this is starting to feel like we're in a legal
thriller here.
Absolutely, give me the numbers.
How much money are we talkingabout?

Speaker 4 (03:13):
The City Council report lays it out Over $30
million in active federal funds.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
That's money for things like affordable housing
programs, okay, keeping yourwater clean, even those road
repairs everyone's beencomplaining about.
And they're hoping to get evenmore money for those big
projects like replacing theOlive Avenue Bridge.
Imagine that project stallingbecause the money dries up.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Okay, so we're not just talking about hypothetical
risks here.
This could have a direct impacton Burbank residents' lives.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
So is Burbank really willing to risk financial ruin
just to make a politicalstatement?

Speaker 4 (03:49):
That's the million dollar question, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's a balancing act.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
On the one hand, you have the potential benefits of
becoming a sanctuary city.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
A more inclusive community, greater trust between
residents and local government.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Right.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
But on the other hand , you have this looming threat
of losing crucial federaldollars.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
And it sounds like the feds are turning up the heat
with these new directives fromthe Trump administration.
Absolutely what are the chancesthat Burbank actually loses
that funding?

Speaker 4 (04:18):
It's a real possibility.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Oh, good the.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Department of Justice is actively investigating local
officials who don't fullycooperate with federal
immigration enforcement.
They're serious about this andthere's even a letter from
America First legal conservativelegal group.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Specifically warning Burbank about potential lawsuits
and personal liability for cityleaders.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yikes.
So Burbank officials could endup in court or worse.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
It's a high stakes game.
No doubt Burbank is trying tonavigate this complicated web of
state and federal laws with alot of money and potentially
even people's freedom hanging inthe balance.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Okay, this is heavy stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
So Burbank is stuck between a rock and a hard place
trying to do what's right fortheir community while facing
serious pressure from thefederal government.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
But let's get down to brass tacks.
How would this sanctuary citything actually work in Burbank
Right?
What would change in people'severyday lives?

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Well, remember that California Values Act we talked
about.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Burbank police are already limited in how they
interact with ICE.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
They can't just ask about someone's immigration
status during a routine trafficstop Right or arrest them solely
on an ICE request.
Okay, but there are some grayareas, particularly when it
comes to people who have beenconvicted of crimes.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Okay, so spill the tea.
What are those gray areas?
Okay, and how would becoming asanctuary city affect them?

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Right now, burbank police can notify ICE before
releasing someone from custody.
If they meet certain criteria,okay, for example, if they've
been convicted of a serious orviolent felony.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
So if Burbank becomes a sanctuary city, they might
not be able to do that anymore.
Yeah, even if someone is adangerous criminal.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
That's the core of the debate.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
And it's not just about police interactions.
A sanctuary city declarationcould also impact things like
access to city services,employment practices and even
housing policies.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Hold on.
This is where it gets reallyinteresting, right?
Because it starts to touch onthe lives of everyday Burbank
residents.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Right.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Not just those who might be undocumented.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Uh-huh, I'm hooked.
We need to unpack this more.
You got it.
There's the symbolic aspect ofcreating a welcoming and
inclusive environment.
Right, but there are also veryreal practical considerations,
like whether a sanctuary citypolicy could make it harder for
federal authorities to removedangerous criminals from the
community.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Okay, I can see how this issue has so many layers
and I'm sure there are validarguments on both sides.
Absolutely.
But before we get too deep intothe weeds, let's take a step
back and look at the biggerpicture.
Where did this whole sanctuarycity thing come from?

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Well, the movement actually has roots going back
decades, with cities like SanFrancisco declaring themselves
sanctuaries for Central Americanrefugees fleeing civil wars in
the 1980s.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
OK.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
But it really gained momentum in the 2000s with the
rise of anti-immigrant sentimentand stricter federal
enforcement policies.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
So it's been this constant back and forth between
local governments trying toprotect their communities.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Right.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
And the federal government trying to assert its
authority on immigration Exactly.
And now Burbank's caught rightin the middle of this, tug their
communities Right and thefederal government trying to
assert its authority onimmigration Exactly.
And now Burbank's caught rightin the middle of this tug of war
.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Right, and the legal landscape is constantly shifting
, with court rulings, executiveorders and even changes in
presidential administrations.
That's what makes this issue socomplex and constantly evolving
.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Okay, so Burbank is facing a tough choice with
potentially huge consequencesfor everyone who lives there.
We need to break this down evenfurther, absolutely and see
what's at stake for Burbankresidents, businesses and the
city itself.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Right In the next part of our deep dive, we'll
delve into the potentialeconomic impacts of Burbank
becoming a sanctuary city.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Will it lead to a boom or a bust?
Will businesses flee or willnew opportunities arise?

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I'm already on the edge of my seat.
Stay tuned, folks, we're justgetting started.
Welcome back to our deep diveinto what a sanctuary city could
mean for Burbank.
We've talked about the legalhot water and the political
pressure, but now let's get downto dollars and cents.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Right, because this decision could have a real
impact on Burbank's bottom line,and yours too.
Yeah, we need to look at how itcould affect businesses, jobs
and even things like what youpay for groceries.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Okay, so no more abstract legal stuff.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Right.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Let's talk about real world consequences.
Exactly what are the biggesteconomic factors at play here?

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Well, first we need to understand the role of
immigrants in Burbank's economy.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Think about all those industries we have here
Entertainment, tourism,restaurants, construction.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Right.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Immigrants play a big role in many of them.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Right, burbank isn't just Hollywood studios.
There are tons of smallbusinesses too.
Yeah, how would they beaffected?

Speaker 4 (09:03):
That's a key question .
Imagine a restaurant owner whorelies on undocumented workers
in the kitchen.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
If they suddenly feel unsafe or uncertain about their
future, what happens?
Maybe they leave Burbankaltogether, or maybe they just
become less productive.
Either way, it could meanhigher costs for that restaurant
owner, which could mean higherprices on your menu.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
So it's not just about politics, it's about the
price of that burger you'recraving.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
This is hitting home.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
And it's not just restaurants.
Think about constructionworkers, hotel staff,
landscapers.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
All industries that rely heavily on immigrant labor
Right.
If there's a labor shortage,those businesses might have to
pay more to attract workers.
Right, and those costs getpassed on to you, the consumer.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Okay, I'm starting to see how this could ripple
through the entire local economy.
Yeah, but some folks might say,hey, if those undocumented
workers leave, more jobs willopen up for American citizens.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
What's wrong with that logic?
It's not that simple Sometimesthose jobs require specific
skills or experience, right, andthere might not be enough
qualified American workersavailable, yeah.
Plus, we have to remember thatundocumented immigrants are also
consumers.
They rent apartments, they buygroceries, they go to the movies
.
All of that contributes to thelocal economy.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
So if they leave Burbank, or even if they just
start spending less becausethey're afraid that's money
that's no longer circulating inthe local economy, Precisely,
it's a domino effect.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Less spending means less revenue for businesses,
which could lead to layoffs oreven closures, and that hurts
everyone, not just immigrants.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
OK, so we've got potential impacts on businesses,
jobs and even the prices we payfor goods and services.
But what about the city itself?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Right.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Didn't we talk about those big infrastructure
projects that rely on federalfunding Right, remember that
Olive Avenue bridge.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
we talk about those big infrastructure projects that
rely on federal funding Right,remember that Olive Avenue
bridge we talked about.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Burbank is hoping to get millions of dollars from the
federal government to replaceit.
Right, but if they become asanctuary city, that funding
could be in jeopardy.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
So that bridge might literally crumble because of
this decision.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
It's a real possibility.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
That's a scary thought.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
And it's not just about infrastructure projects.
Burbank relies on federalfunding for all sorts of things,
from affordable housingprograms to public safety
initiatives.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
So becoming a sanctuary city could mean fewer
resources for everyone inBurbank.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
It's a difficult tradeoff and it's one that the
city council will have to weighvery carefully.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Right.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
But there's another side to this coin, too.
Okay, some argue that asanctuary city policy could
actually have positive economiceffects in the long run.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Okay, I'm listening.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Tell me more about these potential benefits.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
One argument is that sanctuary cities attract and
retain a more diverse workforceOkay, which can lead to greater
innovation and economic growth.
Uh-huh, think about SiliconValley.
It's a magnet for talent fromall over the world, and that's a
big part of what makes it suchan economic powerhouse.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
So the idea is that if Burbank is seen as a
welcoming and inclusive city, itcould attract more skilled
workers and entrepreneurs.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Exactly, and some studies have shown that
sanctuary cities tend to havehigher wages and lower
unemployment rates than citieswith more restrictive
immigration policies.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
So it's possible that by being more welcoming to
immigrants, Burbank couldactually boost its economy in
the long run.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
It's definitely a possibility and it's something
that the city council will haveto consider as they weigh the
costs and benefits of thisdecision.
But even if there are long termbenefits, there is no denying
that there could be some shortterm pain, especially if the
federal government makes good onits threats to withhold funding
.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
OK, so it sounds like this is a gamble with
potentially high stakes.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
How can we get a better sense of what the real
economic impact might be?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Right.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Are there other cities that have already gone
down this road that we can learnfrom?

Speaker 4 (12:59):
That's a great question.
One city that's often cited isSan Francisco.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
They've been a sanctuary city for decades and
their economy is booming.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
But isn't San Francisco a special case, right?
They've got Silicon Valleyright there, and they're already
a major tourist destination.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
You're right, it's hard to compare apples to
oranges.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
But it is worth noting that San Francisco has
continued to thrive economicallydespite its sanctuary status,
and there are other examples ofcities that have adopted
sanctuary policies withoutexperiencing major economic
downturns.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
So there's no clear consensus on whether this will
be an economic boon or adisaster for Burbank.
Sounds like there are validarguments on both sides.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Exactly.
It's a complex issue with a lotof uncertainty.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Right.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
The economic impact will depend on a lot of factors,
including the specific policiesBurbank adopts, how the federal
government responds and howbusinesses and consumers react.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Okay, so we've talked about the potential impact on
businesses, jobs, prices andeven city services, but there's
one more piece of the puzzle weneed to examine.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
OK.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
The legal battle that's raging over sanctuary
cities.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
What are the legal risks that Burbank faces if they
decide to defy the federalgovernment?

Speaker 4 (14:13):
That's a crucial question, because this is not
just a political debate, it's alegal minefield.
We're talking about potentiallawsuits, loss of federal
funding and even personalliability for city officials.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
This is where it gets real.
We need to unpack those legalrisks and see what Burbank could
be up against.
Welcome back.
We've been trying to untanglethis whole sanctuary city
situation in Burbank andhonestly it's a mess Potential
economic fallout, strongopinions on both sides and now
we're adding a legal showdowninto the mix.

(14:46):
This is giving me whiplash.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
It is a lot to unpack for sure.
And this legal battle, it isn'tjust about Burbank, it's about
a fundamental tension inAmerican politics, this power
struggle between the federalgovernment and individual states
.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
We see this all the time Environmental regulations,
health care, even educationEveryone's got an opinion on who
should be calling the shots.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Exactly, and when it comes to immigration, the stakes
are even higher.
Right, the core question isdoes the federal government have
the right to dictateimmigration policy?

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Or do states and cities have the autonomy to make
their own decisions?

Speaker 3 (15:22):
It's like a political tug of war.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
And Burbank's right in the middle.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
So where do things stand legally?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Can the feds really force Burbank to cooperate with
ICE, even if they don't want to?

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Well, the Trump administration is certainly
trying.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
They're arguing that sanctuary cities are breaking
federal law by obstructingimmigration enforcement.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Their main weapon is the supremacy clause of the
Constitution, which basicallysays that federal law trumps
state law when there's aconflict.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
So the feds are saying we're in charge here and
you have to follow our rules,even if you don't like them.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
That's the gist of it federal law called Section 1373
, which prohibits localgovernments from stopping their
employees, like police officers,from sharing information about
someone's immigration statuswith ICE.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
So if Burbank tells its police officers don't you
dare talk to ICE, they could bebreaking federal law.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
That's the argument the Trump administration is
making.
And they're not just talkingtough.
They've already filed lawsuitsagainst other sanctuary cities
and threatened to cut off theirfunding.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yikes, this is serious business.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
But California is not exactly known for backing down
from a fight.
What's their legal strategy fordefending sanctuary cities?

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Well, california is firing back with a few
constitutional arguments of itsown.
They're leaning heavily on the10th Amendment, ok, which says
that any powers not specificallygiven to the federal government
are reserved for the states.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
So California is saying, hey, immigration isn't
explicitly mentioned in theConstitution, so it's our call,
not yours.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Exactly.
They're also using the FourthAmendment, which protects
against unreasonable searchesand seizures.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
They're also using the Fourth Amendment, which
protects against unreasonablesearches and seizures.
They argued that ICE can't justdetain people without a warrant
or probable cause just becausethey suspect they might be
undocumented.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
OK, so it's a constitutional showdown.
It is.
The feds say they're in charge,california says back off and
Burbank's caught in the middleRight.
Has anyone actually won any ofthese legal battles yet?

Speaker 4 (17:25):
There have been some court rulings, but it's a mixed
bag.
Some judges have sided with thefederal government, others with
the states.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
It's a legal tug of war and the outcome is still
uncertain.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
So no easy answers, just a whole lot of legal
wrangling Right.
What does this mean for Burbankas they try to make this
decision?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Right.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
What are the real legal risks they're facing?

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Well, the biggest threat is definitely the loss of
federal funding.
The Trump administration hasmade it clear that they're
willing to use that as a weaponagainst sanctuary cities.
And remember Burbank relies onmillions of dollars in federal
funds for everything fromhousing programs to
infrastructure projects.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Right, we're talking about that Olive Avenue bridge
replacement and a whole lot more.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Right.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Losing that money would be a huge blow to Burbank.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Absolutely, and then there's the risk of lawsuits.
Yeah, the.
Department of Justice hasalready sued other sanctuary
cities.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Right.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
And Burbank could be next if they adopt a policy that
the feds don't like.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
So taxpayers could end up footing the bill for a
costly legal battle.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
That's not exactly what I want my tax dollars going
towards.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
And it's not just the city itself that's at risk,
right?
Individual city officials couldface personal liability too.
Yeah, remember that letter wementioned from America First
Legal Uh-huh?
They're threatening to sue cityleaders who implement sanctuary
policies.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Wow, so Burbank officials could be putting their
own careers and finances on theline with this decision.
Talk about pressure.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
It's a high stakes game, no doubt.
Burbank is facing a complex webof legal challenges and the
outcome is far from certain.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Okay, so we've covered the legal risks, the
potential economic fallout andthe intense political climate
surrounding this issue, but atthe end of the day, this is
about Burbank, its residents andthe kind of community they want
to live in.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Exactly.
This isn't just an abstractpolicy debate.
It's about real people's lives,right.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Right.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
It's about families who fear being torn apart,
business owners trying to makeends meet Right, and city
leaders grappling with toughchoices that will have a lasting
impact on their community.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
So what's the takeaway for our listeners in
Burbank?
What should they be thinkingabout as they try to make sense
of all of this?

Speaker 4 (19:44):
I think the most important thing is to stay
informed and engaged.
Yeah, attend city councilmeetings, read the reports, talk
to your neighbors, contact yourelected officials.
Right, this is your city andyour voice matters.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
And don't be afraid to ask tough questions.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Challenge the assumptions, demand evidence and
hold your leaders accountable.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Absolutely.
This is a complex issue with noeasy answers.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Right.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
But by engaging in thoughtful dialogue, listening
to different perspectives anddemanding transparency, burbank
residents can help shape thefuture of their community.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
This has been quite the deep dive.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
It has.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
We've explored the legal battles, the economic
uncertainties and the humanstories at the heart of this
debate.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
We hope you've come away with a better understanding
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