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Mystery Maniacs Episode! In Podcast 252, a stupid killer makes their life more complicated by framing everyone! 


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Mark (00:00):
I just came in and see what you like that.

(00:02):
All blue.

Sarah (00:18):
Hey, maniacs.

Mark (00:19):
Hey, mystery maniacs.

Sarah (00:21):
This is mystery maniacs, a comedy recap podcast. Each
week, we choose an episode of amystery show and dive into the
murder, the mayhem, the loonies,and everything else we love. It
is a spoiler podcast. We'regonna tell you who did it. I'm
Sarah.

Mark (00:36):
And I'm Mark, and this is season nine, episode four of the
Brokenwood Mysteries, Going tothe dogs.

Sarah (00:43):
Whoop. Whoop.

Mark (00:44):
Whoo. Yeah. There's not a lot of dogs. My barber. There's
more horses in this episode thanthere are dogs.

Sarah (00:50):
You're right.

Mark (00:51):
And there's no Frenchie and no English bulldogs.

Sarah (00:53):
But there's a puppy party. There It's a puppy party.

Mark (00:56):
Is a puppy party.

Sarah (00:58):
Everybody who says puppy party seems silly when they say
it, but

Mark (01:01):
it's fun. I guess, sorta. We got a present this week. Oh
boy, did we get a present. Ifthis is being recorded on
Saturday, Saturday night I willrelease the video to everyone.
I've only released it now to thepeople on Instagram and the
special club. Yes. I'm close.

Sarah (01:22):
From Surrey. Thank you. You. Thank you.

Mark (01:23):
Thank you, Mark.

Sarah (01:24):
Sent us a program from the Midsummer Murders stage
show.

Mark (01:29):
Which would have been awesome enough as is.

Sarah (01:33):
But it gets better.

Mark (01:34):
Oh, it gets better.

Sarah (01:35):
Daniel Casey autographed it dedicated to the mystery
maniacs.

Mark (01:41):
It says in Mark's flipping through the program to find the
signature. It says, MysteryManiacs, lots of love, Daniel
Casey. We felt very special. Wedidn't. Though Mark did let

Sarah (01:56):
us know, Danielle Casey had never heard of the podcast.

Mark (01:59):
Never heard

Sarah (01:59):
of it. But that's okay. He's busy.

Mark (02:01):
He's busy. A busy He's

Sarah (02:03):
had five years to learn about us. That's okay.

Mark (02:06):
Mean Well, it's it's okay.

Sarah (02:07):
Not everybody's on the podcast, I guess. Whatever.

Mark (02:10):
Yeah.

Sarah (02:11):
Maybe he'll listen now. Maybe he'll be intrigued.

Mark (02:13):
Maybe.

Sarah (02:14):
Maybe he thinks that Mark from Surrey is crazy.

Mark (02:18):
I don't. I am

Sarah (02:19):
Some guy wanted my signature and then asked me
about maniacs. I don't know.

Mark (02:24):
The best part is the well, no. That that's all sorts of
good parts. But there is anotherbest part, which is you have to
fill out a customs declarationwhen you're sending anything
overseas. And the contents ofthis package were one secondhand
theater program. Yes.

Sarah (02:45):
Thank you, Mark. That was really nice of you to send it.

Mark (02:48):
Absolutely. We're so happy have it.

Sarah (02:50):
Speaking of gifts from Mark, our Mark, you

Mark (02:54):
Yes. Have created a gift

Sarah (02:56):
for our listeners this week.

Mark (02:57):
Yes. So at the very start of the episode there's a
newspaper. I will go into littleparts of that soon. But on the
back of the newspaper is acrossword And I was like, they
must have one of those crosswordmaking things that I can make a
crossword for this episode. So Idid.

Sarah (03:15):
Now if you are a cryptic crossword aficionado or some
kind of crossword expert, thisis not gonna be challenging to
you. It's a fun crossword.

Mark (03:24):
This is high school English level comprehension.

Sarah (03:27):
Oh, this is like study guide crossword? Yes. Let's make
study fun crossword level?

Mark (03:31):
Okay. That's what this is.

Sarah (03:33):
It's if you've seen the episode, you should be able to
fill this crossword. So itshould be satisfying

Mark (03:38):
It should be.

Sarah (03:38):
For people who are bad at crosswords like me. Yes. I don't
think I've ever finished acrossword. I have a PhD in
English, and I cannot finish acrossword.

Mark (03:48):
I tell you, dear listeners, there's a new book of
Poirot puzzles out and before Idid that book, I bought the
Agatha Christie's kids puzzlebook to work on first And I'm
working my way through that togain confidence. Because wow, I

(04:08):
looked at the first one in theother book and I was like, Did

Sarah (04:13):
that ever happen in that point? I don't

Mark (04:15):
know logic. It's fun.

Sarah (04:20):
Yep. Next week, we won't have an episode because Mark
will be at a comic bookconvention. The Illinois Comic
Con. You don't pronounce the son the end. How long have you

Mark (04:30):
lived in The United Illinois so There you That makes
you a Which is in Peoria,Illinois. Yes. And I will be
there Saturday and Sunday, so ifyou're in the area and like
comic books, drop by. And also,I will be on a podcast Monday
evening. All that informationwill also be in the A comic book

(04:54):
podcast?
Yes. A comic book podcast by thepeople who print my comics. Oh.
So there'll be lots of esotericprinting things. But if you
wanna listen

Sarah (05:07):
And no sucking up to keep your business. Right? Obviously.
No.

Mark (05:11):
I am a very small fry and they're big pawns. Yeah. So

Sarah (05:15):
Alright. Are you ready to talk about going to the dogs?

Mark (05:18):
Absolutely. So first of all, this this episode
originally aired the 05/01/2023.Mike Smith directed this and it
was written by Tim Baum and MikeSmith.

Sarah (05:31):
So the big theme of this episode Yes. Far as I'm
concerned Yes. Is stupidcriminals. These are of all the
crimes, because it's not just amurder, all of the crimes that
are committed in this episodeare committed by people who are
incredibly dumb at beingcriminals.

Mark (05:52):
Yes. This is stupid criminals and the ends of
relationships. That's reallywhat this episode is.

Sarah (05:58):
Kinda. Yeah. I mean, Andrea the victim and her
marriage to Craig definitelyends because she's dead.

Mark (06:04):
Craig, the worst person ever at looking innocent.

Sarah (06:10):
He goes out of his way.

Mark (06:12):
If you rewatch the beginning like I did, you're
like, wait a minute. He is soguilty, McIlterson. Yeah. Yeah.
Like, he doesn't let them heforces them to go to a location.
He's like, never mind that. He'slike, ready to touch the car.
Like, he might as well have a tshirt on that said, murdered my

(06:35):
wife, and all I got was thislousy t shirt.

Sarah (06:38):
So let's just give an overview of the story. Right?
Okay. We'll just do it brieflyand not because there's too
there's too much to talk about.Okay.
So long story short, there's apuppy party, which is a part a
dog training class at the park.Andrea, who's a veterinary
nurse, is there with Julianne,who is the dog whisperer.
They're doing the training.Andrea never goes home. Nope.

(06:59):
Her husband reports her missingin the morning. They find her
dead at the park, dead against atree, bound to the tree

Mark (07:05):
with horse bridle, horse reins. And we we don't mention
this much anymore becauseusually we only have one dead
body. But Andrea does chef'skiss version of dead body.

Sarah (07:19):
I watched her eyes so closely waiting for her to
blink. And she is on screen forlonger periods of time than I
cannot blink. Like, when I wasrewatching it, I kept my eyes
open as long as she did, and Ididn't make it.

Mark (07:35):
She does a really good job. She absolutely did a
fantastic job.

Sarah (07:39):
So she's bound to the tree, and then we find out that,
of course, there's all thiscontroversy at the vet's office.
Yes. Her husband is the vet.

Mark (07:47):
You mean the wisteria covered vet's office? Yeah. Oh
my gosh.

Sarah (07:52):
About that. It makes me

Mark (07:53):
Everything in this episode is covered in wisteria.

Sarah (07:55):
Makes me bitter.

Mark (07:56):
Frodo's coffee card is covered in wisteria. No.

Sarah (08:00):
So her husband Craig is the vet. His business partner is
Bonnie, the other vet, who isthe identical twin sister of
Julianne the dog whisperer. Yes.So we have one actress playing
two parts.

Mark (08:13):
Yes.

Sarah (08:14):
Then there are like little side characters there in
the vet's office.

Mark (08:17):
Yes. The worst run vet's office of all time.

Sarah (08:20):
And then we have Ron, the world's grumpiest man

Mark (08:23):
Yes.

Sarah (08:24):
Who brings his dog to the puppy party.

Mark (08:26):
Who is legitimately grumpy.

Sarah (08:28):
And we'll talk about why he he deserves to be grumpy.
Julian and Bonnie, the twins,don't get along.

Mark (08:36):
No. But they say the same things about each other, which I
thought was nice. Yeah. As welldone.

Sarah (08:40):
They are still twins. Yeah. Even though they do
everything they can not to betwins. To be as legal least like
each other as possible.

Mark (08:48):
And we wanna say a couple of things. One, twins is a
gimmick, but these twocharacters are played by one
actress. It is not gimmicky theway they do it. There's only,
like, maybe two scenes whereyou're like, wait a minute.

Sarah (09:03):
Where they're in a scene together, not alternating camera
shots, but you actually see themin the same shot. Like there's
one shot in the lobby of the copshop.

Mark (09:15):
Yeah. And then there's no silly parent trap weirdness No.
No. Screen thingies or

Sarah (09:22):
But we should talk about how the actress differentiated
one character from the other inher acting.

Mark (09:28):
Yes. Interesting. Which I think she did a good job on.

Sarah (09:31):
I do too. I do too. I think even even if you took
their hairdoist away, you wouldstill be able to tell them
apart, which is another way thatBonnie is dumb, but we'll we'll
get into that.

Mark (09:42):
By the way, Bonnie is the killer.

Sarah (09:44):
Yes. So in the end, we find out that Craig is deep in
debt Yes. Gambling, overspendingon the practice, all kinds of
bad financial decisions.

Mark (09:56):
Doping horses.

Sarah (09:57):
And as a result, he is doping horse that he owns with
Julianne

Mark (10:01):
Yes.

Sarah (10:01):
So that it can win races and get him and he places bets
on the race.

Mark (10:05):
And there's

Sarah (10:06):
a horse race on the beach.

Mark (10:08):
Sorta. Like, it gets better. But at the beginning,
you're like, there are, like,four people at this horse race,
but it gets better. But there iscontroversy

Sarah (10:18):
Yes.

Mark (10:19):
With the horse race.

Sarah (10:20):
Subplot are Frodo is taking temporary custody of a
tortoise named Hercules that hecontinues to lose.

Mark (10:27):
Hercules. Hercules.

Sarah (10:28):
And Chalmers and Missy may or may not have a
relationship.

Mark (10:33):
Well, I'll tell you what, they don't anymore. Never seen
again.

Sarah (10:37):
Really? This is our last Missy episode?

Mark (10:39):
Last Missy episode.

Sarah (10:41):
The episode ends with them riding horses on the beach,
and you think, finally, they'regonna work this out and be
together.

Mark (10:47):
Poof. Oh. Don't worry. Beth goes poof for the next
episode. So

Sarah (10:52):
We also have Beth, Mike's partner, waiting for him to get
a divorce.

Mark (10:57):
Yes. She sent him leaves. Olive Branch.

Sarah (11:00):
Yeah. Because she composted the divorce papers.

Mark (11:04):
I I would like Go throttle her. Wherever she is, go
throttle.

Sarah (11:07):
Yep. I'll give you a call next time I'm near a phone.

Mark (11:10):
I do know in the next episode, Beth and Mike go.

Sarah (11:15):
Yeah. They go. They find her.

Mark (11:16):
Yeah. They go find her.

Sarah (11:17):
Which you finally you're like, finally.

Mark (11:19):
I would have been like, as soon as if I was Beth

Sarah (11:23):
When she came back from Australia and he hadn't done
anything about it, I would haveturned around and went right
back. Goodbye.

Mark (11:28):
Yep. I even before she went to Australia, I would have
been like, let's go. We'll do ittoday.

Sarah (11:35):
Yeah.

Mark (11:35):
Get this work. Let's go.

Sarah (11:37):
Get it done.

Mark (11:38):
Yep.

Sarah (11:38):
So in the end, we know that Bonnie did it because,
well, she's a bad person. She'snasty.

Mark (11:44):
Yes. Basically. She's arrogant.

Sarah (11:46):
She's a bad vet. She kills animals on accident and
doesn't take responsibility forit. I almost said credit for it.

Mark (11:54):
She doesn't take responsibility for it. Yep. She
blames other people. She bulliesother people.

Sarah (12:00):
She's just bad. Yep. She's a pucker lipped bad
person.

Mark (12:03):
Yes.

Sarah (12:04):
That's the difference between

Mark (12:05):
her and Julianne, by the way,

Sarah (12:07):
is that she's constantly got a pursed puckery face and
wears her hair back.

Mark (12:13):
Okay. And she's a dumb criminal. Oh, the

Sarah (12:16):
dumbest. So where shall we start?

Mark (12:18):
How about the discussion of bondage?

Sarah (12:25):
You mean the this is how Gina is awkward in this episode
moment? Yes. Yes.

Mark (12:31):
Luckily, she mentions Austrians and Norwegians and her
awkwardness.

Sarah (12:36):
Because, you know, Austrians are into that stuff.

Mark (12:38):
Yeah. Mike is like,

Sarah (12:44):
wow. In Vladivostok, only men ride horses and they ride
them naked wearing only bearskinhats. Can That's my Gina
impression.

Mark (12:54):
I'm like, okay, riding a horse naked. Okay. I'm gonna do
this in a way that we don't getin trouble.

Sarah (13:01):
And you have to assume no saddle. You're Fairback naked.

Mark (13:05):
You're a dude. Saddle is not important here. The problem
is is there are parts that wouldbe You'd be bouncing on your
junk. Bouncing around. Would bea concerned about self
castration at this point.
No. I wanna ride no. No.

Sarah (13:24):
Real real men ride a horse naked.

Mark (13:28):
They're not real men for long.

Sarah (13:35):
I I always find the Gina weirdness funny. Yes. But then I
also, in my head, kinda playout, like, if I were Gina, what
was I expecting to happen if Iwasn't so awkward and people
actually responded. So they'reat the crime scene. She's just
walked up to inspect the bodyfor the first time, which is a
dead woman with her eyes wideopen.

(13:55):
She is almost as blue as herjumper, and she's bound to a
tree with a set of horsebridles. And Gina turns to Mike
and says, you know, what whatwhat is your experience with
bondage? Like

Mark (14:08):
Which, of course, he's like,

Sarah (14:11):
can you give us cause of death yet? You know?

Mark (14:14):
And Sims, like, appears out of nowhere.

Sarah (14:18):
Oh, sidles right up and is like, I'm I'm here for this
conversation. I wanna I wannahear your answer because she's
so nosy. I love that about Sims.But, like, what does Gina expect
him to say? Oh, oh, yes.
I'm very into it. I have thisequipment and that equipment,
and this is what I like. Like,that's not gonna happen. This is
not an appropriate place forthat conversation to happen,
Gina. So so why even say it?

Mark (14:41):
Yeah.

Sarah (14:42):
Because she's awkward. She wears a cowboy hat to a
horse race on the beach.

Mark (14:46):
And tries to get Sims to wear one, which is fantastic. We
find out Sims has a brother.

Sarah (14:54):
We know she has

Mark (14:54):
a sister.
So we know she has a sister. Oh, boy. If you haven't
seen that episode.

Sarah (15:00):
It's in a later season.

Mark (15:03):
And now we know that she has a brother that took her to a
horse race and she lost all herpocket money.

Sarah (15:08):
Who's she doing betting as a kid?

Mark (15:10):
I do not know.

Sarah (15:11):
Who's taking bets from kids? That was a shifty horse
race they went to.

Mark (15:15):
Apparently, was a shifty horse race.

Sarah (15:18):
I don't understand this crime scene.

Mark (15:21):
Okay. Yeah.

Sarah (15:22):
Can we can we talk about can we just talk about the
because so much of this hingeson so Bonnie is like the central
spoke of deception. Right? She'smanipulating everybody around
her, culminating in this death.And she strikes me as an
intelligent person But

Mark (15:40):
evil, but person sees her, she's done.

Sarah (15:45):
Well, that's that's the case with most murders.

Mark (15:47):
No. Right?

Sarah (15:47):
Okay. If one person sees you murder somebody,

Mark (15:49):
you're done.

Sarah (15:50):
Okay.

Mark (15:51):
If there's one witness who lives, you're done. But, okay,
but she takes the dead body fromher house. From whose house?

Sarah (16:02):
Her own house?

Mark (16:03):
Her her own house. Mhmm. Which is a good idea?

Sarah (16:06):
Kill her in your own house?

Mark (16:08):
To remove her from her

Sarah (16:09):
your house. Well, yeah. She's got no alibi if Andrea is
found dead in her living roomand Julian in Bonnie's living
room.

Mark (16:16):
I just came in and she would like that.
All blue.

Sarah (16:23):
What's the kiss about?

Mark (16:25):
That's the puckered lips. Oh. But then she says, I'm going
to take her to an incrediblycrowded public place.

Sarah (16:35):
It's nighttime. The park's not crowded anymore.

Mark (16:38):
There are people who go to parks at nighttime.

Sarah (16:41):
Let's start with Andrea's evening. Let's back up.

Mark (16:45):
Okay.

Sarah (16:45):
So Andrea does the puppy party.

Mark (16:47):
Okay.

Sarah (16:48):
Right? Yep. After the puppy party, she gets a text, a
call from a source that shethinks

Mark (16:55):
is the vet's office saying that Ron has called and
requested somebody comes out tohis house right away because his
puppy is ill. Which makes sensefor her to go out there because
Ron thinks that she killed hisdog. Yes. So she's gonna wanna
make amends to Ron.

Sarah (17:14):
Right.

Mark (17:14):
Right?

Sarah (17:15):
And a good doctor of any sort, even a nurse, puts aside
their own personal feelingsabout somebody and thinks about
the patient. So even if shedidn't want to have a
confrontation with Ron, shecares about the dog. And if the
dog's in distress, she's goingto put her feelings about Ron
aside, that awkwardness, whichwe'll talk about in a second,
and goes there.

Mark (17:36):
But that message is not tracked.

Sarah (17:39):
Yeah. I don't know where the message comes Because if it
was a call from the office, shewould know who was calling her.
Yes. If it was a text, it camefrom some text system that they
have, I guess. I think that'sthe only explanation.
So anyway, so she goes outthere. And he says, I didn't
call. The dog's fine. And theyend up having a conversation

(18:01):
about how it's not Andrea'sfault that his dog died. It was
actually Bonnie, the vet.
Right?

Mark (18:08):
Yep. And actually, we need to go a tiny bit back before
this. In the afternoon beforethe puppy party, Andrea sends
Bonnie a note that says, I'mgoing to expose you.

Sarah (18:19):
Mhmm.

Mark (18:19):
Okay? Because that's the inciting incident.

Sarah (18:22):
Right. Okay?

Mark (18:23):
Right. Because there's no reason for her to go to Ron's
and because

Sarah (18:27):
Bonnie has done some malpractice. Yep. Everybody's
been covering for her. She'sbeen blackmailing people to get
them to cover for her. Andrea isdone with it.
And she's like, I'm leaving, andI'm going to expose this. I
can't do this anymore. Right?Yes. How does Andrea get to
Julianne's house?

Mark (18:42):
In her car. Because she leaves an oil spot at Julianne's
house.

Sarah (18:46):
Why? Why does she go to her house?

Mark (18:49):
I think she calls her

Sarah (18:50):
Sorry, Bonnie.

Mark (18:51):
I think she calls Bonnie, calls her and says, I want to
talk about this note.

Sarah (18:56):
And she goes to her house? I would say, no way, no
how.

Mark (19:00):
Never mind the fact that, okay, I joke joke that we've
bought our dentist boats. Right?Yeah. And our vet is super good
at understanding huge expenses.

Sarah (19:14):
Mhmm.

Mark (19:15):
They're they've been very good with us. Mhmm. But the
house that Bonnie lives in is afreaking mansion. Yeah. And she
lives alone.
And she yeah. So then So we'resupposed to believe

Sarah (19:29):
we're supposed to believe that Andrea goes to Bonnie's
house willingly to discuss thefact that Andrea is quitting and
is gonna end Bonnie's career.Yes. And she's willing to go
there and be alone

Mark (19:40):
with her. And Andrea says sorry. Bonnie says she's going
to fess up to the vet council.Oh. The council of vets.

Sarah (19:52):
So Andrea is like, oh, well then everything's okay. I
trust you again. If you're goingto admit what you've done

Mark (19:57):
I guess I'll drink this drug tea then.

Sarah (19:59):
Yeah. And then pass out on your couch so you can stick a
needle in my back. Yeah. Stepone of bad crime.

Mark (20:09):
Yes. Okay. Like she could have put it in her leg.

Sarah (20:13):
Anywhere where Andrea could have reached Yes. Would
have been smart.

Mark (20:17):
Yes. Right? Then you put her back in the car

Sarah (20:20):
Driver to the park.

Mark (20:21):
Drive her to the park, send the text to her husband, I
can't take it anymore.

Sarah (20:25):
And it looks like she's taken her own life using using
drugs from the vet's office.

Mark (20:30):
At least sort of. Yeah. They would eventually get
through that. I think they'resmart enough.

Sarah (20:36):
It would, but she'd have a way better chance of getting
away with that.

Mark (20:39):
She would have gotten away in her company car. The company
car is not a getaway vehicle.

Sarah (20:45):
No. So Bonnie bundles Andrea's body back into Andrea's
car, drives it back to the parkwhere they had the puppy party.

Mark (20:54):
Now I understand that Andrea is not she's not a big
woman.

Sarah (20:58):
No. But nor is Bonnie.

Mark (21:00):
But nor is Bonnie. The carrying and the lifting and the
You know the answer to thatquestion? The machinations.

Sarah (21:07):
Fireman's carry. Apparently, if you can do
fireman's carry, you can carrysomebody 20 times your weight if
you know how to do it and liftwith your knees.

Mark (21:15):
Well, what needed to happen was Doctor. Death Magnet
needed to show up and go, Itaught her the fireman's carry.
Goodbye.

Sarah (21:25):
So uber strong Bonnie, Piles Andrea and

Mark (21:28):
her uncle She hulks.

Sarah (21:30):
She hulks it. Drives her to the back to the park where
she was in the afternoon.

Mark (21:35):
Bear in mind, driving with a dead body. Yeah. One single
individual. Where is missusMissus m. M when we need her?

Sarah (21:46):
So Craig notes that when he came looking for his wife at
the park earlier, her car wasn'tthere. Or no, the night before,
her car wasn't there.

Mark (21:56):
At five at, like, 06:00

Sarah (21:58):
or But now the car in the morning is there.

Mark (22:01):
Again, he acts and sounds the most guilty possibly.

Sarah (22:05):
I know. Andrea gets put against a tree and Bonnie binds
her to the tree using horse ahorse bridle that belongs to
Craig.

Mark (22:16):
Now, this is where I have a problem. At some point,
previous to Andrea sending theemail, Bonnie takes the reins.

Sarah (22:28):
Mhmm.

Mark (22:29):
What was she going to do with that?

Sarah (22:30):
She swipes him from Craig's car, you know, just in
case.

Mark (22:33):
Just in case what?

Sarah (22:35):
I don't know.

Mark (22:36):
Just in case you're gonna kill somebody

Sarah (22:37):
and Remember, she's blackmailing and framing
everybody around her foreverything that she's doing
wrong. That's weird. That Craigis already committing crimes.

Mark (22:46):
I know I know all of that, but her doing something specific
of taking the reins is weaksauce. It's a bridle.

Sarah (22:55):
Because taking the reins is something else. Okay. She's
taking the reins on crazy anddriving all the way home.

Mark (23:00):
She's driving all the way home.

Sarah (23:02):
But then after tying Andrea's body to the tree, I
guess to frame Craig andJulianne because they own the
horse that a bridle belongs to

Mark (23:11):
I guess.

Sarah (23:12):
She does the smartest thing. She puts up her hood,
which you know in a show likethis makes you invisible.

Mark (23:20):
Because she has to be invisible because now she has a
to do list.

Sarah (23:25):
She has to get home somehow from there.

Mark (23:27):
She has to get home. She also has to stop at the vet
office.

Sarah (23:31):
And break in.

Mark (23:32):
She's like walking all over the place.

Sarah (23:34):
Yeah. So she's

Mark (23:35):
got She a has a hood up.

Sarah (23:36):
She has to do a fake break in at her own vet's office
Yes. And rummage the place sothat it looks all turned upside
down.

Mark (23:43):
Then, okay, then the next problem I have is she comes back
to work, she pretends workhappens. We have a whole bunch
of problems with the vet officethat we'll get to. After a few
days, while they'reinvestigating, she could have
leisurely drive away fromBrokenwood. Right?

Sarah (24:02):
Mhmm.

Mark (24:03):
And been on holiday or something. I already planned
this holiday. I just

Sarah (24:08):
You mean she could have fled the scene?

Mark (24:10):
She could have fled after a few days. Not right away.

Sarah (24:14):
I don't think she could play that off because vets have
schedules that go way out thewazoo. I mean, you know, we make
appointments for Olive in likesix months from now.

Mark (24:22):
Maybe. But she waits till the very last minute to run
away. But Bonnie is so bad. Yes.

Sarah (24:28):
She has woven a web of people around her ready to turn
on her at any moment becauseshe's victimizing everybody,
right? So Craig is deep in debtand has a gambling problem and
is illegally importing anabolicsteroids to use on a horse to
win races.

Mark (24:48):
With record.

Sarah (24:48):
So she's got that on him, right? Brianna, the female Frodo

Mark (24:53):
Yes. Who is the receptionist at the vet's
office,

Sarah (24:56):
knows about the shipments. And Bonnie has said,
since you know about them,you're Yeah. Right? Prisha, who
is the other vet, knows what'sgoing on.

Mark (25:09):
Has seen her kill animals.

Sarah (25:11):
Has seen Bonnie commit malpractice, just negligent
malpractice and surgery, causingthe death of other people's
pets. And when confronted,Bonnie has said, well, it would
be too bad if something happenedto your parents' immigration
paperwork. Yep. Which is Soeveryone around her hates her.

(25:31):
So She's created a human vicearound her and thinks she's
going get

Mark (25:36):
away So with the moment there's any sign of weakness,
they all cave.

Sarah (25:40):
Right. So she kills Andrea because Andrea is going
to expose her malpractice andtries to frame her own sister
and Craig for the murder.

Mark (25:50):
And then tells the people at the vet's office to lie for
her. Yeah. She's a bad criminal.

Sarah (25:56):
She's a bad criminal.

Mark (25:57):
But she's good with the club, the golf club.

Sarah (26:00):
She does hit Mike twice with the golf club and kicks
Sims in the head.

Mark (26:04):
Twice. And kicks Sims in the head. When Sims throws her
down on the car, we're all like,yeah.

Sarah (26:12):
Twist her arm tighter. She's bad.

Mark (26:15):
I just wanted to see her try to hit Sims with the golf
club hit Chalmers with the golfclub and him go

Sarah (26:22):
just It just bounces off

Mark (26:24):
of him. Bounces off of him.

Sarah (26:25):
Or he just catches it, snaps it in half, throws it over
his shoulder. Yeah. What elseyou got? Okay.

Mark (26:33):
The vet's office. Things that are problematic about the
vet's office. Okay. Number one,the wisteria. Number two.

Sarah (26:41):
If you've blocked it out or you just didn't care enough
to know, the reason why we're soanti wisteria is that we had a
wisteria tree that we nursedlike another child for years.
Years. Years. And it never everbloomed. Never.
It ripped an arbor out of theground. Nope. But couldn't grow

(27:02):
a single freaking flower.

Mark (27:05):
Not a single one.

Sarah (27:06):
It's dead now. It's gone.

Mark (27:07):
We've killed it.

Sarah (27:08):
It's eradicated from our yard. You

Mark (27:09):
did murder against it.

Sarah (27:10):
And since then, I have been bitter about wisteria.
Anyhow.

Mark (27:14):
Number two, other things that we're bitter about. If
Brianna can get a job there, whycan't they hire our children?

Sarah (27:24):
It's on another continent on the other side of the planet.

Mark (27:27):
She's a druggie and a bad witness and a bad manager. And
dumb. And dumb. But she couldget a job. I'm like, my kid
could do both of most of my kidscould do an awesome job there.
And we'll have the moralfortitude to go, no, I'm not
lying for you.

Sarah (27:47):
They also have a handwritten drug register that
looks like.

Mark (27:51):
We will get to that

Sarah (27:52):
piece Scrooge's bank records or something. I don't
know what that book is supposedto be.

Mark (27:57):
There is stuff crossed out, and and whoever made that
register went extra hard. Yeah.Like, there are at least three
filled out pages.

Sarah (28:08):
I think it's an old bank register.

Mark (28:11):
Yep. That's what it looks like. Okay. Sarah. A woman has
been murdered at this vet'soffice.
Okay? Now, who worked at thisvet's office?

Sarah (28:20):
Mhmm.

Mark (28:21):
There's been a break in at this vet's office. Mhmm. There
are suspected anabolic steroidsrelated to this vet's office and
animals have died.

Sarah (28:30):
Mhmm.

Mark (28:31):
Why doesn't Mike go, we're closing the vet's office?

Sarah (28:34):
Oh, no. They're doing business like gangbusters. I
mean, sick animals still need tosee a vet even if it's a vet who
probably will kill them.

Mark (28:41):
No. They closed that up. You should keep this door
locked.

Sarah (28:45):
No. Here's another. Craig is so guilty. Whoop whoop whoop.
Less than a half an hour afterfinding his wife's body, he's
back at work.
Literally, a half an hour.

Mark (28:57):
And then he said the horse race cheering. Yeah. I was like,
your wife died twelve twentyfour hours ago, dude.

Sarah (29:05):
Your business partner killed her and tied her to a
tree. Yeah. And you're makingbets on the horse race. Two days
later.

Mark (29:14):
Do you think you should close the office? Oh no. Then,
okay. So the other part I haveabout the office that is
problematic is that everyone hasan office. Yeah.
Right?

Sarah (29:26):
An office, office.

Mark (29:27):
Only Brianna doesn't have an office. How do they have
examination rooms in this place?Because they they do not have
room for examination roomsbecause they just have offices.
Now, we go to a vet that isbusy. Mhmm.
They are a very busy vet vet.They don't overcharge or
anything like that, but they areon the bone in terms of how they

(29:52):
run. They have examinationrooms, which are places where
they can make money.

Sarah (29:57):
Mhmm.

Mark (29:58):
And then they have like a lab and offices in the back.
Mhmm. They do not have palatialoffices like these people.

Sarah (30:05):
I don't think each of the vets has their own office in our
practice.

Mark (30:09):
No. I do not think so. On top of it all, the budget that
they have for clothing, postersBranded swag. Branded swag.
Cars.
Cars. Now I wanna say they did agreat job with this. Mhmm. The
production team did a great jobwith this. But man, I would be
like, Bonnie, we are spendingtoo much money on stickers.

Sarah (30:33):
There's a sticker on the clipboard. There's a sticker on
your monitor. There's a stickeron

Mark (30:36):
your laptop. There's sticker on everywhere. Board.
Put a sticker on it.

Sarah (30:42):
It's it's heavily branded. It it is. There is the
room where they keep themedications.

Mark (30:49):
And dog bowls. You gotta have

Sarah (30:51):
the clang of a bunch of metal dog bowls falling when
you're pretending to break in.

Mark (30:55):
There is no lock on that. No. Like, when we order our
dog's allergy medicine.

Sarah (31:02):
It comes from a dispensing machine or We

Mark (31:05):
order it from the front office, they call back to the
dispenser, the dispenserdispenses it and brings it to
the front office and places itin a locked cabinet that they
have to unlock when I go get thedog's medicine.

Sarah (31:20):
Mhmm.

Mark (31:21):
For her allergy pills.

Sarah (31:23):
You know why? Because they don't keep blue juice in
there. Blue juice?

Mark (31:28):
Well I got to tell you Bonnie must have a vat of it at
home with the size of thesyringe that she puts in. It's a
horse syringe. Like I thoughtthat Andrea was going to have
blue juice shooting out of hereyes and her nose and her mouth
because that thing, like ittakes a half an hour for her to

(31:49):
shove all that blue juice

Sarah (31:51):
in. If it takes two hands to inject somebody, you know the
syringe is big.

Mark (31:55):
Like, I've dealt with animal syringes. We had to put
syringes in the cattle when Iwas a kid. I've actually done
that. It is frightening andterrifying to do. They were not
as big as those as that giantblue juice syringe.
Never mind the fact

Sarah (32:15):
The blue juice comes in, like, one liter bottle.

Mark (32:17):
Like, Brianna is gargling it in the background. I like
blue. It's a fanny. It's a funcolor.

Sarah (32:25):
So they say they call it blue juice because it's it's
pentobarbital. It's themedication they use to euthanize
sick animals, right? And theymake it blue, bright blue, so
that it's not confused withanything else, and so you don't
accidentally give a dog or a cator whatever a dose of it when
you meant to give them somethingelse, right? I have questions.

(32:47):
Yes.
Why does it come in suchgigantic bottles?

Mark (32:50):
Well, we might have to do a camel.

Sarah (32:52):
Then get out the camel sized jar. But for a kitten,

Mark (32:57):
I would think that would be a bit

Sarah (32:58):
of an overkill.

Mark (32:59):
It would blow the kitten up like a butter.

Sarah (33:02):
Oh, that's awful. I can't believe you said that. It's
horrible. You don't have to usethe whole bottle No. Is what I'm
saying.

Mark (33:10):
I would be confusing it constantly with antifreeze. What
color would you

Sarah (33:14):
make it though to make it dramatic so that no one confused
it? Would you make it blueraspberry Orange maybe?

Mark (33:22):
Red? Red?

Sarah (33:24):
Acid green?

Mark (33:25):
Maybe. That looks unhealthy. Those are better
colors than You wouldn't

Sarah (33:28):
inject acid green into something if you didn't mean to,
but they just call it the bluejuice, which makes it sound
tasty.

Mark (33:35):
Yes. Brianna thinks so. It's blue, my favorite color.

Sarah (33:40):
If they're gonna make it blue, they could call it
something better. Yes. The CyanSlayer.

Mark (33:47):
Not blue juice. Juice makes it sound like a drink. The
Cobalt Killer. That's better.Cerulean Sleeper Juice.
Cerulean Sleeper Juice.

Sarah (34:00):
That's all the blue names I have. So Bonnie operated on
Ron's dog. So Ron, super grumpyRon, brings his dog in to get,
like, a vaccination.

Mark (34:16):
Yes.

Sarah (34:17):
And Bonnie gets it confused with another dog and
does surgery on it instead.

Mark (34:22):
And the dog is a heart condition.

Sarah (34:24):
And dies. Which is And Ron's wife has just passed away
too.

Mark (34:28):
Yes. From an illness. So his best friend It was sudden.

Sarah (34:32):
Dies, and then his dog best friend dies, and he's
grumpy. At first you're like,God, that guy's an asshole. Why
is he so mean? You know? Andthen you find out, and you're
like, oh, really?
He should be even meaner. Iwould be. I'd be real grumpy. I
wouldn't even go to the puppyparty.

Mark (34:52):
No. And he's also like they do a good job of making him
like, he's volatile. He's happyone minute

Sarah (35:01):
Yeah.

Mark (35:01):
And upset the next. That speech he gives to Mike is
fantastic. It's great acting.

Sarah (35:07):
About when his wife passed away

Mark (35:08):
and the dog. The most unbelievable thing is that he
has an EV. Yeah.

Sarah (35:15):
Ron's not an electric car guy. No. Of course, this is New
Zealand where people

Mark (35:19):
are more sensible. And then okay.

Sarah (35:22):
The only thing I don't like about Ron's character that
I think is inauthentic is that Ithink we're supposed to believe
that the vet's office hassupplied him with the new dog as
an apology. Yep. Which isincredibly insensitive.

Mark (35:38):
Yes.

Sarah (35:38):
I know we killed your dog. Here's another one. Right?
Shut But he calls the dog it.Yes.
And he's not very nice to it.

Mark (35:48):
No, I don't understand that.

Sarah (35:50):
I don't think Ron, who clearly loved his dog, would
take his anger out on anotherdog. I mean, he's not mean to
it. He doesn't kick it oranything. But the fact that I'm
calling it it, because I don'teven know if it's a boy dog or a
girl dog, because we neverreally know, because he's so
kind of detached from a reallybeautiful collie puppy

Mark (36:13):
Yes. Who seems to be a good puppy. And then Bonnie
involves him in another framingscheme, which I'm like, okay,
this is your third framingscheme.

Sarah (36:24):
Oh, you mean putting the blue juice bottle Maybe. By his
trash bins?

Mark (36:28):
Maybe. Maybe it's time to leave.

Sarah (36:31):
Yeah. It's getting a bit complicated, Bonnie. How many
people are you gonna try toframe? I mean, stick to one
person. Frame Craig and be donewith it.

Mark (36:40):
Craig is already wearing his I did it t shirt.

Sarah (36:45):
He already has access to the blue juice Yep. And mega
syringes.

Mark (36:50):
He has access to the blue juice, mega syringes.

Sarah (36:54):
Andrea could be could be willing to expose him for what
he's done.

Mark (36:57):
They're married so they can

Sarah (36:59):
be bitter with each other.

Mark (37:00):
That he is gambling debts.

Sarah (37:02):
Yep. Could be

Mark (37:02):
in love with Julian. Yep. He could be in love with Julian.
All sorts of things.

Sarah (37:07):
Perfect perfect framing target. No. But no no Bonnie has
to spread the love to everybodyand she overplays her hand.

Mark (37:16):
So let's talk about this horse race. Because first of all
it's beautiful and must havebeen a fun day for them Yeah. To
film.

Sarah (37:24):
Because it's on the beach.

Mark (37:25):
It's on the beach, there's horses, you're enjoying
yourself.

Sarah (37:29):
Horses are pretty on TV, I don't like them in person.

Mark (37:31):
At first you're thinking maybe three people are here but
Yeah. But then there are a lotof people.

Sarah (37:37):
Yeah.

Mark (37:38):
There are five horses in the race. What happens to me
that bothers me about the raceis the race starts and Missy
Who's riding one of the horses.Is that Missy?

Sarah (37:48):
No. It's a man.

Mark (37:49):
No. It's a guy built like Chommers. In the distant shots
of the race Yep.

Sarah (37:58):
They've dressed a horseman up like Missy to ride
the horse. What blew me away isthat one of the horses totally
cheats. The last horse totallycheats

Mark (38:09):
and not anabolic steroids. Anabolic

Sarah (38:14):
They Anabolic steroids. Have to go down the beach around
a barrel and back. Yep. Andthere's one horse that just
stops short of the barrel andjust goes, whatever,

Mark (38:23):
and Turns turns around. I'm losing anyway,

Sarah (38:25):
it doesn't matter. I'm not going around that stupid
barrel.

Mark (38:30):
So this is all raised to raise money for charity. I'm
going to give you a hint,writers. If you're going to say
the money is to raise money fora charity, tell us what the
charity is. Yeah. That it

Sarah (38:42):
Just say the takes children's home.

Mark (38:44):
It takes four more words, and it makes it more real.

Sarah (38:47):
Yeah. A charity? Yeah. It's for charity?

Mark (38:50):
It's just for charity.

Sarah (38:52):
Do you think there are any actors who actually are
identical twins? Yes. And likeboth of them are actors?

Mark (38:57):
Yes. And I know two. Well, I know one. What? So when I was
in college, I met and went toschool with a woman by the name
of Jack Hennessey.

Sarah (39:11):
Okay.

Mark (39:12):
Her sister is more well known, is Jill Hennessey. And
she is well known for a showcalled Crossing Jordan. She was
on Law and Order, and she's beenin a bunch of other stuff,
including Dead Ringers.

Sarah (39:27):
And they're identical twins, and they're both actors?

Mark (39:30):
They're identical twins, and at that time, they were both
actors. That's got to be hard.It has to be super hard.

Sarah (39:38):
Like, think Cameron Diaz, she was in Something About Mary.
She has a twin sister, butthey're not identical, and
they're both not actors, right?No. But if you have an identical
twin who's also an actor and yougo out for the same parts, how
do they decide?

Mark (39:57):
Sure you Well, go out for twin parts,

Sarah (39:59):
No, you don't. Because like in this episode, they save
a ton of money having one actorplay both parts.

Mark (40:05):
Yeah.

Sarah (40:05):
Why would they pay two people?

Mark (40:07):
Yes. That's true.

Sarah (40:09):
Would kind of be a bummer. Like if you wanted to be
an actor, and then your twinsays, me too, you got to take
them out.

Mark (40:16):
Yeah. You got to hobble them at least. Yeah, you get

Sarah (40:20):
Facial deformity, I mean something.

Mark (40:22):
Scar, something.

Sarah (40:23):
Yeah, bald patch, I

Mark (40:24):
don't know.

Sarah (40:25):
Yep. Just so that, you know, you're not you're not in
competition for the rest of yourlife.

Mark (40:31):
Frodo.

Sarah (40:32):
Those kids are mean. Okay.

Mark (40:35):
I was ready to go to Broken Wood to to fight those
kids from Frodo. Yeah. AndChalmers actually does it. I I
watched.

Sarah (40:43):
He didn't fight them. He didn't beat them up.

Mark (40:45):
Didn't fight them, but he actually puts his handcuffs on
the bikes.

Sarah (40:49):
Yes.

Mark (40:50):
It's it's a it's a clever little piece of of misdirection
on the screen at that time.

Sarah (40:57):
So Frodo has a tortoise because somebody came to the
coffee cart and left theirtortoise behind. He doesn't know
who it belongs to, so he'staking care of it. And the
tortoise is constantly gettingaway because he can't keep it in
a box with some hay and somelettuce.

Mark (41:13):
He has to let it free roam. He has to.

Sarah (41:16):
And it constantly gets away. I do like that Chalmers
comes up with the idea ofputting the flag on the
tortoise's back. He's quiteproud of himself But for that
then those jerk kids, first ofall, they stand around a table
and laugh at it. Look, atortoise. What's even funny
about that?
Yep. But then they kidnap it andput it in a tree. If that

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tortoise had fallen off thatbranch, it could have cracked
its shell and died. Yep. Thoseare bad kids.

Mark (41:43):
Bad kids, b a d k I d s. I'm glad you can spell it.

Sarah (41:49):
They're really bad. But Chalmers gets back at them by
handcuffing their bikes togetheraround a tree. They're like,
woah, young man, you can't dothat, whatever.

Mark (41:59):
You can't just like take off? So Frodo

Sarah (42:02):
puts Those kids are gonna be problematic in the future.
Frodo puts because they clearlydon't respect police.

Mark (42:06):
Yep. Frodo puts the flag on the tortoise and during the
chase scene Yes. The tortoisemoves toward Is in the middle of
the road.

Sarah (42:17):
The car knocks the flag off of it but then Mike and Sims
almost run Frodo over.

Mark (42:22):
And Mike exclaims, Jesus, Frodo. To which I think we have
a new law lord and savior. WellJesus, Frodo.

Sarah (42:34):
Mike is doing a bad thing. He's driving way over the
speed limit. Does he have sirensand lights on? Nope. No.
Because he insists on drivingthat old car

Mark (42:43):
That isn't going fast enough, and Sims has to tell
him.

Sarah (42:47):
That

Mark (42:47):
isn't do equipped. They do a number of Sims and Mike in the
car with blue screens behindthem that are all fun. Yeah.
They're having fun.

Sarah (42:57):
They're making the background look like it's going
back real fast. Yeah. Sims islike, woah, and like getting
thrown around the car. Yeah. Ihad the same thought that you
did when people mentionedreporting Bonnie to the vet
council.
It's not like the VetsAssociation. When I hear vet
council, I think

Mark (43:16):
robes. Like purple robes with yellow trim around them.
And

Sarah (43:23):
they would have like like one one person would have like
fuzzy cat ears on the hood. Yep.And then the other one would
have like a big horse head.

Mark (43:30):
They have giant vats of blue juice. What's their
initiation like? I do not know.

Sarah (43:35):
You get shot in the ass by that giant syringe. I'm just
thinking about that.

Mark (43:46):
You know, like, they're chanting and They have all these
animals in cages. Yes. All

Sarah (43:54):
you can see is the tip of their noses.

Mark (43:55):
Brianna, are you guys done yet? I have to go to a concert.

Sarah (43:59):
Yeah. I know. I don't wanna serve coffee at that
council anymore. It's kindacreepy in there. You know?

Mark (44:06):
Frodo's offering to sell a kid's fluffy. Do you know what
that is? A what? A kid's fluffy.

Sarah (44:13):
That's on the sign?

Mark (44:14):
That's on the sign.

Sarah (44:15):
He also has coffee to die for, which is kind of heavy
handed in a murder mystery show.

Mark (44:19):
It's kind of heavy handed.

Sarah (44:21):
What on earth is a kids fluffy?

Mark (44:24):
It's like frothy milk with a little bit of chocolate on
top.

Sarah (44:27):
Oh, I see. So it's like a kiddie cocktail coffee version.
Yes. I see. That's a moneymaker,isn't it?

Mark (44:33):
Yeah. I

Sarah (44:33):
wonder if Starbucks has something like that. Bet

Mark (44:35):
they do.

Sarah (44:36):
Bet they do. They probably charge like $12 I still
can't believe Bonnie hit Mikewith a club.

Mark (44:43):
Wow. Oh, could have broken his back. So, Mike goes into the
front of the house, Sims goesaround the back. They do a
there's good visual storytellingbecause we see the door and we
see the golf clubs and Bonniegoes, mhmm. Right?
I have an idea. I have an idea.

Sarah (44:59):
I can fight these police persons with this club, Nick.

Mark (45:04):
So then Mike walks in and you think he's safe and then she
just whacks him.

Sarah (45:11):
Whales on him. He doesn't do a very good job of defending
himself either, and hits himwhile he's down too. She's
despicable.

Mark (45:20):
And then then they're in the car, her and

Sarah (45:23):
Sims Sims catches her, she falls down, and Sims grabs
her foot, and with her otherfoot, she just kicks her in the
forehead.

Mark (45:31):
Yes.

Sarah (45:31):
Like Donkey kicks her.

Mark (45:33):
The Sims should totally be messed up. Like, needs some
blood and bruising.

Sarah (45:39):
Or at least concussion

Mark (45:40):
or something.

Sarah (45:41):
She's got like hiking running boots on.

Mark (45:43):
Yep. But they're in the car and Sims goes, I'm in pain.
And Mike goes, uh-huh.

Sarah (45:51):
What I really I love that when they so they catch Bonnie,
and they get her back at the copshop, and she's still acting
like she didn't do it.

Mark (45:59):
Oh, she totally lies to them.

Sarah (46:02):
She's still like, well, isn't it convenient that I'm
surrounded by people? I'm theonly honest person of all the
people I know. Everybody else isa liar and a bad person,
obviously, and you're fallingfor all of their lies.

Mark (46:16):
I have a note in the recreation. That sure is a lot
of the Blue Jaws. But Also, sheputs her hand on her face, which
Gina would know that there wasbruising on the face.

Sarah (46:30):
Yes. But when they interrogate Bonnie, they use the
psycho angle.

Mark (46:36):
Yep.

Sarah (46:36):
Like three inches away from one side of her forehead to
make her look as unattractiveand pucker faced as possible.
And then it goes back to theregular camera angle for Mike
and Sims. Blah blah blah blahblah blah. Psycho angle. Yes.
Blah blah blah blah blah. Psychoangle.

Mark (46:55):
But we now, Sarah and I are not master criminals. We
only play them on a podcast. Butwe have devised a way in which
she could have framed anotherperson and it would have been
perfect. Yeah. All she needed todo is after grappling with
Andrea and filling her full ofthe blue juice.

(47:21):
Just imagine Hold on. I gottarefill this up.

Sarah (47:23):
I just imagine Andrea's eyes, like, filling up like a
gauge, like, to the full point.

Mark (47:29):
Do you have enough in you yet?

Sarah (47:31):
That's why she's so blue when you see her tied to the
tree. Yeah.

Mark (47:34):
She's got the blue juice.

Sarah (47:35):
She's full of blue juice. The scion killer.

Mark (47:38):
Okay. When she's done that and she's fireman carried her to
the car, she needs to come backinto the house and change her
hair and her clothes. Let her

Sarah (47:47):
hair down, shake it, shake it.

Mark (47:49):
Shake

Sarah (47:49):
it. Put on the hippiest, ugliest turtleneck and cardigan
vest that she can find.

Mark (47:54):
Get the Doors music going on in the car.

Sarah (47:58):
And then dump the body in the park and then just walk away
going, I think regular medicineis stupid and I believe in

Mark (48:05):
plastic I'm dog whisperer.

Sarah (48:07):
I like hippie things and

Mark (48:09):
Would you like some dandelion tea?

Sarah (48:11):
Julianne gets arrested for the murder. Yep. Julianne
had a motive too.

Mark (48:15):
If you can't frame your twin, who can you frame?
Exactly.

Sarah (48:18):
I mean, they don't like each other. Nope. That's
perfect. Yep. It would have beenso easy, but it tells us
something about Bonnie'scharacter.
That no matter how evil she is,she hates her sister more.

Mark (48:31):
Yeah, I think so.

Sarah (48:32):
So much that she can't even lower herself to pretending
to be her sister. Yep. AndJulianne has every right to hate
Bonnie. Totally. Was in vetschool, and Bonnie called her
tutors and told them she wascheating when she wasn't.
She's horrible. Awful. Iwouldn't even live in the same

(48:52):
town with her.

Mark (48:53):
No. No wonder they're both not married.

Sarah (48:55):
What sister? I wouldn't Yeah. I'd be gone. Yeah. Or I'd
steal her career and go off andactually be a vet somewhere.

Mark (49:04):
It is sort of implied that if you have Chekhov's twins, you
need a twin scene where you'renot sure which twin is which.

Sarah (49:12):
And you can always tell which one is which. The actress,
like they must you must have toget in the headspace of one
character or the other. Right?Yeah. When you're playing two
characters, you got to definethem for yourself.
So I wonder if they filmed amajority of the Bonnie scenes
and then a majority of theJulian scenes or vice versa so
that she didn't have to go andobviously not every five minutes

(49:34):
changing costuming and hair Butand even in the same day, think
it would be tough.

Mark (49:39):
Filming is done in blocks of the same location at the same
time.

Sarah (49:43):
Right.

Mark (49:44):
Right? So they film all of the stuff at the vet's clinic
all at the same time.

Sarah (49:50):
Yeah. Right. All the stable scenes.

Mark (49:51):
All the stable scenes. Yeah. All that all at the same
time. And if you notice in thestable scenes, when they do any
sort of long shot, it's raining.Yeah.
And it's nowhere else in theepisode. No. So, like, she would
have done probably, let's do allthe morning scenes with Bonnie
at the vet. Mhmm. They do allthe in the morning, they do all

(50:15):
the scenes with Bonnie at thevet.
Bonnie in her office, Bonnieinteracting with people, Bonnie
doing all that stuff. Right? Andthen they would have reset the
the set and then done any sceneslike that with Julia. Julianne?

Sarah (50:31):
Yeah. Yeah. So in the end, Thomas and Missy are on the
same beach riding horses, andthey look like they're having so
much fun.

Mark (50:38):
They're having a wonderful time. You're telling

Sarah (50:41):
me Missy never comes back?

Mark (50:42):
Never comes back.

Sarah (50:44):
That's sad.

Mark (50:44):
I know. Thomas deserves He's the only single guy in
Brooklyn that's of any value.

Sarah (50:52):
After the credits, it's kind of easier to list the
people who don't go to jail.Yeah. Obviously, Bonnie's gonna
go to jail. Yep. Is Craig gonnago to jail?

Mark (51:03):
I think so because of what he's doing with the horses. And
the sister knows all about that.

Sarah (51:11):
Julianne?

Mark (51:11):
Yeah. So they're both off the pogie, plus they tried to
fraud defraud a charity.

Sarah (51:19):
Julianne might get a lesser sentence because she
wasn't the one acquiring thesteroids and using her
professional license to getthem. Maybe. Craig's definitely
gonna

Mark (51:30):
Craig's up the river.

Sarah (51:31):
He's definitely interested.

Mark (51:32):
I love how it's an American company. He'll just
send anything anywhere. Oh,yeah.

Sarah (51:37):
So that means the clinic closes. Right? Unless Prisha
buys them out, which she's notin a position to She

Mark (51:42):
is not in a position to do.

Sarah (51:44):
So Brianna's unemployed.

Mark (51:46):
Finally, that clinic closes.

Sarah (51:48):
Prisha's gotta find another job.

Mark (51:51):
Brianna's gotta find another job. I think Ron's gonna
be okay with his dog. I thinkso.

Sarah (51:57):
He's gonna Yep. Come around. What a mess.

Mark (52:01):
It's just a complete

Sarah (52:03):
Where's Ursula the reporter or whatever her name is
to cover this entire boondogglefor the newspaper?

Mark (52:09):
Do not know.

Sarah (52:10):
Because this is a multi page story Indeed. Everybody
involved is either dumb or doingbad things except Prisha. Yes. I
feel bad for her. I mean,Brianna is a victim of her own
stupidity,

Mark (52:22):
but, you know. And why is Brianna not dating Frodo?

Sarah (52:26):
They are perfect for each

Mark (52:27):
They are perfect for

Sarah (52:28):
each other. Though they'd probably drive off a cliff in
their first date

Mark (52:30):
because And they're so

Sarah (52:34):
Hercules is reunited with his owner, who's probably gonna
forget him somewhere againbecause she's living at the
memory center. They need to tieHercules to her or

Mark (52:45):
something. Something.

Sarah (52:46):
But she seems very happy to have him back. Yes. So we
were talking, and we agreed thatwe want to add a little segment
here to the end of some of ourepisodes. Yes. We're getting to
the holiday season.
Sometimes the holiday season is,I don't know, a little dark and
gloomy outside.

Mark (53:03):
Don't Though it's like spring today and But blooming

Sarah (53:06):
it was snowing We three days thought we would add a
little recommendation sectionhere at the end of the podcast
where we would recommendsomething for the week coming up
that Yes. We that we think is agood thing.

Mark (53:19):
Yes.

Sarah (53:19):
What is your recommendation

Mark (53:21):
for the week? So my recommendation, I will play the
the sister that is all touchyfeely and everything here. And
I'm gonna say that myrecommendation is, there are a
number of people who listen tothis podcast who are not in the
eighteen to thirty fivedemographic Mhmm. That are older

(53:42):
than that. Yeah.
I'm not going to say anythingmore than that, but are older
than 35.

Sarah (53:47):
Yes.

Mark (53:47):
Okay? It is of great benefit to me and my mobility
that I do yoga on a regularbasis and walk on a regular
basis. It is good for my hipsand it is good for my knees.
Now, like, okay. I'm gonna sayBut the thing about your yoga is
you don't go

Sarah (54:07):
to yoga class. Watch yoga videos on YouTube and follow
There is

Mark (54:10):
so much on YouTube. You put in yoga and your particular
situation. Be it older lady whois

Sarah (54:20):
extremely something

Mark (54:22):
like that, anything like that. You put in any sort of
situation that you are

Sarah (54:28):
Geriatrics over seven feet yoga.

Mark (54:32):
You will get, oh, here's a whole entire course for you.
Free. For free. That you canfollow along with. So just move
a little.
That's what I'm saying. And thatis my recommendation that you
find something that fits yourlevel and now I'm not a doctor,

(54:53):
I'm going to say the thing whichis you shouldn't do an exercise
program without your doctor'sadvice, which you should get,
but my doctor loves that I dothis. That you should do some
stretching and yoga, it helps myjoints immensely and walking.

Sarah (55:11):
Mark can do the splits.

Mark (55:12):
No, you can't. No, I can't. I'm just kidding. I
can't. Can't.

Sarah (55:15):
That's your recommendation for the week?
Yes. Just try some yoga onYouTube? Yes. I wholeheartedly
agree with that.

Mark (55:21):
It's also good for your brain, but I won't get into

Sarah (55:24):
that. I didn't know what your recommendation was going to
be, and now I feel like mine'sreally lame.

Mark (55:32):
No. No. No. There are no value judgments about
recommendation. Next week, Imight be like, you know, they
have a pickle sandwich at JimmyJohn's now.

Sarah (55:42):
I do not recommend that. I love pickles, but the pickle
witch is an abomination.

Mark (55:47):
It is

Sarah (55:47):
not They literally replaced the bread with a
gigantic pickle

Mark (55:51):
That's so wrong.

Sarah (55:52):
At Jimmy John's.

Mark (55:53):
Wrong. Wrongity wrong.

Sarah (55:55):
Wrongity wrong wrong. Okay. So I have two then,

Mark (55:58):
because I'm

Sarah (55:58):
gonna do one that I was gonna do that is touchy feely
like yours, but then I haveanother one that's fun.

Mark (56:04):
Okay.

Sarah (56:04):
So my touchy feely one, before I knew you were going to
do a touchy feely one, is tosend someone a thank you note.

Mark (56:11):
Yes.

Sarah (56:12):
I keep, in my drawer at work, I keep a stack of empty
generic thank you cards. Yep.And once a week, I find some
excuse to write somebody a thankyou for something that they've
done. And I did it. I starteddoing it because somebody did it
for me, wrote me a thank younote for something that I didn't
even think I deserved to bethanked for, but it was so nice.

(56:34):
And it made me feel so good thatI thought, that takes two
seconds. I'm going to startdoing that. And now I do it once
a week. And some weeks it isharder than others to think of
somebody to send a thank younote to. But I've always found
somebody.

Mark (56:47):
That is 100% a Dave Bell special too. My brother, who is
a fantastic sort of peopleperson like that, always sends
handwritten thank you notes toso many people. I just drop them

Sarah (57:00):
off at people's offices sometimes. And wow, does it make
a difference?

Mark (57:05):
It makes a huge difference.

Sarah (57:06):
I really like writing them too. It's good for me. My
fun one though Yes. Is to nexttime you're at the grocery
store, it's that time of yearwhere all the weird holiday
flavored crap comes out. Yes.
Try some new flavor ofsomething. My example from this
week is that we got the holidayflavored vanilla soda from Coca
Cola. Yes. I'm not going

Mark (57:28):
to say that it's bad. No. But it tastes

Sarah (57:30):
a bit like cream soda mixed with Coke.

Mark (57:32):
It's vanilla Coke y.

Sarah (57:33):
It tastes like vanilla Coke, but a little bit
different. Totally drinkable,but not like, oh. It's not
cranberry ginger ale, which ismy favorite season.

Mark (57:43):
And we're also not going to promote alcoholic drinking on
our show, but we also picked upsome different flavored ciders.

Sarah (57:52):
Oh, yeah. Those were fun.

Mark (57:53):
And they were That was fun and good.

Sarah (57:55):
But, you know, if you see some weird flavor for the
holiday, try it. Yeah. You mightlike it. Absolutely. If you
don't like it, share it.
That's what I do. I go, I takeit to

Mark (58:05):
work, and I go to my team who work for me who can't tell
me no. And I

Sarah (58:08):
say, hey, I brought this stuff in. Taste it.

Mark (58:12):
And they go, do I

Sarah (58:13):
have to? Yeah, it's

Mark (58:14):
The kids don't do it anymore.

Sarah (58:16):
The kids don't fall for it anymore. But when I got the
Thanksgiving dinner flavoredjelly beans Yeah. Everybody on
my team tried every flavor.

Mark (58:24):
And it

Sarah (58:24):
was great fun because I knew the green bean was
absolutely freaking foul, theyall ate it.

Mark (58:30):
Remember, as a manager, use your power. That's right.
Next time, season nine episodefive, Shot of Love. This will be
dropping on the December 1. Sothanksgiving, Happy
Thanksgiving.

Sarah (58:48):
Wherever you are. Yes. We hope you

Mark (58:50):
have a good turkey day.

Sarah (58:53):
Yes. Alright. Bye, maniacs.

Mark (58:55):
Bye, maniacs. Thanks for joining us on the mystery
maniacs podcast. If you enjoyedour crazy podcast today, don't
miss out on future episodes.Follow us on social media for
updates, beyond the scenescontent, and exclusive sneak
peeks. Subscribe, like, andshare to spread the word.
Bye, maniacs.

Sarah (59:14):
I know they're like, I think Carmen Diaz has a twin
sister, but they're notidentical.

Mark (59:20):
Maybe.

Sarah (59:21):
Is it Carmen Diaz?

Mark (59:22):
Yes.

Sarah (59:23):
Is that right?

Mark (59:23):
I think so. Riveting podcast there. Cameron Diaz.

Sarah (59:28):
Cameron. Yes.
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