A Bucket Full Of Jerks | Brokenwood | "Old Blood Money" | Mystery Maniacs Podcast EP250 - Mystery Maniacs

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Sarah (00:00):
This is really a great filming location, and it was

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easy for us to book. We shoulduse it again.

Mark (00:20):
Hey, maniacs. Hey, mystery maniacs. Mystery maniacs is a
comedy recap podcast dedicatedto Mystery TV. Each week, we dig
into an episode of the showincluding the murders, the
mayhem, the loonies, andeverything else we love. This
week, the Brokenwood MysteriesOld Blood Money season nine

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episode two.

Sarah (00:42):
Otherwise known as episode of jerks.

Mark (00:45):
Yes. There are a lot of jerks in this episode.

Sarah (00:48):
A lot of unlikable people. It's very midsummer in
that way. Yes.

Mark (00:53):
I'm Mark. I'm Sarah. 250 episodes. 250.

Sarah (01:00):
This is two fifty? This is two fifty. Welcome to two
fifty.

Mark (01:03):
That is In six years and roughly three months, which is
insane.

Sarah (01:12):
Mhmm.

Mark (01:13):
On top of that, when you you add the numbers together,
we're well over 600,000downloads of audio only.

Sarah (01:21):
Mhmm.

Mark (01:21):
We're close to 500,000 views on YouTube. Mhmm. More on
YouTube in just a sec. 3.33333episodes a month for six years.

Sarah (01:35):
That's awesome. That's insane. Thanks for listening. I
cannot Thanks for being there.

Mark (01:40):
I cannot believe the community we built, the fun
we've had, the laughter

Sarah (01:45):
COVID stuff. Stuff. The COVID stuff. The sheer hours of
evidence of our insanity

Mark (01:52):
Yes.

Sarah (01:52):
That are out there to the public.

Mark (01:54):
Our that our children will be able to listen to in their
old age.

Sarah (01:58):
Neither of us is ever gonna run for office anyway.

Mark (02:01):
No. It's fine. I don't think so. By the way, there's a
new thing on the YouTube. So ifyou're listening on the YouTube,
not only like, subscribe and doall that good stuff as normal,
but if you're listening on theYouTube's and it's in the first
seven days of the podcast beingreleased, there's a hype button.
The hype button on the bottom ofthe video is there so that

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smaller creators can get in forget out and get listed and get
attention.

Sarah (02:30):
And that's a new thing.

Mark (02:31):
And that's a new thing and we support this 100%. It's
completely free.

Sarah (02:37):
Yep.

Mark (02:37):
All you gotta do is click a button.

Sarah (02:39):
Yep. That's it. If you wouldn't mind, click the hype.
Click click the hype. Hype us,baby.

Mark (02:46):
We got lots of incredible stuff coming up including new
midsummers and all sorts ofother things coming up. So, I
know this is an importantepisode but we will be
celebrating kind of for the nexttwo months of Mhmm. Of stuff
coming up. So But, first, aspromised on the Reddit, before

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we start this episode, we mustreturn to Knitter's Corner.

Sarah (03:13):
And why are we returning to Knitter's Corner?

Mark (03:16):
Well, we are returning to Knitter's Corner. First of all,
because boy, it was a hit. Anumber of people mentioned
loving Knitter's

Sarah (03:24):
Corner. I kind of know our audience. Yes. Have some
things in common.

Mark (03:29):
But last episode, we mentioned a particular sweater

Sarah (03:34):
that talked about Skillfully bad.

Mark (03:37):
Yes. We contacted Tanya Clowens who is

Sarah (03:41):
The costume designer. Costume designer. Mysteries.

Mark (03:44):
Who was was the one who introduced Tracy Lee Gray to our
podcast, which is fantastic.Thank you. And we asked her
about how that was created andif she had anything to do with
it. Swishri, she responded likeinstantaneously that a friend's

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mother made that for them in ahurry. The brief was it was
supposed to look terrible andthat would be great.
And they finished off the lastfew rows of the hem with the
gray macrame cord that theyused. Macrame. Macrame, which
they used in the episode.

Sarah (04:24):
It's perfect.

Mark (04:25):
She says, from memory, I think she did it in a little
over a week, which is insanelyfast. It is very fast.

Sarah (04:33):
Kudos to friend's mother because it is art.

Mark (04:37):
That we predicted that and now confirm that from the show.

Sarah (04:43):
And that is knitter's corner. Knitter's corner. I

Mark (04:47):
don't think we have a knitter's corner for this
episode.

Sarah (04:49):
We don't get the harp coming out of knitter's corner
too.

Mark (04:52):
Here you go.

Sarah (04:52):
Thank you.

Mark (04:55):
Okay. Back to the regular show. Midsummer on stage last
night, we already have reviewson the subreddit Mhmm. For
Midsummer. Apparently, it wasquite an amazing show.
It's going on all this week. Soit's October 24 to the November
1.

Sarah (05:13):
But we're waiting for a maniac review.

Mark (05:16):
Yes, we are waiting on a maniac. Ari has suggested that
since she's traveling all theway from Sweden to go see mid
summer live, then she should bea correspondent. And I
completely agree. I cannot waitto hear from them about mid
summer live. That's gonna We'vebe already heard good reviews.

Sarah (05:39):
I didn't doubt it for a minute. Apparently, it's
hilarious,

Mark (05:42):
which that episode is full of hilarity. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I
did mention a couple of episodesago the Poirot video game. Now,
is Death on the Nile, the discoversion.

Sarah (05:56):
It's very much a Kenneth Branagh Poirot.

Mark (05:58):
Yes. He looks It's very much a Kenneth Branagh Poirot,
though it's not supported bythat.

Sarah (06:04):
No. No. But but he looks more like the Kenneth Branagh
version

Mark (06:08):
Yes.

Sarah (06:08):
Than the David Souche version.

Mark (06:09):
Yes. And I've been playing this video game and that's Sarah
will attest, been frustrated bysaid video game.

Sarah (06:19):
It's kind of hard apparently. He walks into a lot

Mark (06:22):
of walls. Difficult video game. The puzzles are difficult,
but I'm gonna do a full reviewas a video review of that game
for our listeners. When I postthat, I'll I'll mention it on
the podcast and tell everybodyabout it. So that is all our

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announcements.

Sarah (06:44):
Are we ready for old blood money?

Mark (06:46):
Sarah, it is cold outside. There are leaves blowing down
the street. Mhmm. There is soupin the crock pot. Mhmm.
The heat is on. Yes. This isfall time, and we are cozying up
to this show.

Sarah (07:04):
To a party of jerks.

Mark (07:06):
It is a party of jerks in which the the episode also does
a very good job of beingpsychic. And what I mean by
being psychic is you spend theepisode going, isn't that and
then they confirm that it is.

Sarah (07:21):
Yes. That is the house from the Clue party.

Mark (07:24):
Yes. That is Jules.

Sarah (07:25):
Yes. That is Jules. Yeah. Like,

Mark (07:28):
they do a very good job of predicting what you would be
thinking about.

Sarah (07:33):
My biggest issue with this episode it's a fun episode,
but my biggest issue is theybreak the rules

Mark (07:39):
This a is a pure mystery episode, and they break the
rules a couple of times. Butmore than a lot of Broken Wood
episodes, it's a pure whodunit.

Sarah (07:50):
Yeah. And and by breaking the rules, what I mean is that
the detectives are privy toinformation that they don't
share with us. You know, look ata phone and go, oh my gosh. But
they don't show us what they'reseeing. So we can't solve it
along with them.
And that's breaking the rules. Idon't like that.

Mark (08:08):
And who are those rules by? The detectives club. Yes.
The Agatha Christie was part of.Yeah.
And I meant to mention this toyou. It's a tiniest side, but it
has been announced by the AgathaChristie estate that Marple will
be returning.

Sarah (08:25):
Oh, awesome.

Mark (08:25):
There will be a new Marple, which

Sarah (08:27):
One old lady actress will play her this time.

Mark (08:30):
Once we hear more, we can figure out which old lady
actress can play her. And by oldlady, I mean awesome. Old lady.

Sarah (08:38):
Well, yeah, but over over 60.

Mark (08:41):
Yes. Original air date of this episode, the 04/10/2023,
which seems like two secondsago. Katie Wolf directed this
and it was written by Tim Baum.

Sarah (08:52):
Jules is Crying and Driving.

Mark (08:55):
Which is a band from the

Sarah (08:57):
No. That's Driving and Crying.

Mark (08:59):
Yes. Driving and Crying is the eighties band from

Sarah (09:01):
Yeah.

Mark (09:02):
Atlanta, Georgia. I think they're from Atlanta. They're I
know they're from Georgia.

Sarah (09:06):
Here, this is a personal question, but we're married, so
I can ask you in front of allthese people. Yes. Have you ever
done that? Yes. Cried that hardwhile driving?

Mark (09:13):
Oh, absolutely.

Sarah (09:14):
It sucks. It doesn't. It's horrible. It it I feel bad
for her in this moment.

Mark (09:20):
It is I don't like Jules at all. Fun.

Sarah (09:22):
I don't We're not supposed to.

Mark (09:24):
We don't we're supposed to we're supposed Jules is kind of
like that aunt who always getsin trouble and we go, oh, well,

Sarah (09:31):
we That's know just aunt Jules.

Mark (09:33):
That's just aunt is

Sarah (09:34):
like, she makes poor decisions.

Mark (09:36):
Like, we're not supposed to hate her.

Sarah (09:38):
But we

Mark (09:38):
were supposed to assume that she's making decisions that
are beneficial to herfinancially in the realm of
love.

Sarah (09:47):
But while smiling and banging her eyelashes and
wearing tiny, tiny disco pants.

Mark (09:53):
Those disco pants. Hey.

Sarah (09:56):
You know what? You know what Jules is good at besides
making bad choices? Walking inheels.

Mark (10:02):
She walks upstairs in heels.

Sarah (10:04):
Drunk. Yes. The woman has three inch heels minimum on Yep.
The entire episode. Yes.
And some of them are like tinytiny stiletto heels

Mark (10:13):
Yes.

Sarah (10:13):
Which I can't even like stand up in, and she's acting in
them.

Mark (10:18):
Good for climbs the stairs and incriminates herself.

Sarah (10:22):
Then we have Chalmers running in slow motion. So It's
beefcake cam.

Mark (10:27):
Yeah. It's well, there are a lot of cams in this episode
that we'll get to, but yes. Butit's definitely It's

Sarah (10:33):
not just jogging. It's slow motion Chalmers jogging.

Mark (10:37):
And slow motion Chalmers in the morning, I'm like, you're
going to find a body different.

Sarah (10:42):
Of course. So No detective is allowed to exercise
or walk their dog or join a clubor anything without finding a
body. You have to. No. It'sJules in a ditch, though, and
she's not dead.

Mark (10:53):
No. She's just unconscious, but no one loves me
anymore. Dial dial 111.

Sarah (10:59):
Why didn't her airbag go off?

Mark (11:01):
I don't know.

Sarah (11:02):
Was this a slow motion crash?

Mark (11:03):
Maybe.

Sarah (11:04):
She didn't really hit anything. Right? So

Mark (11:07):
So Chalmers goes to the back of the car. The boot? The
boot. The trunk. I'm not exactlysure what leads him there.

Sarah (11:17):
I think he's just going back and forth. He goes to the
street and that jackass in thevan doesn't let him use his
phone. I'm a police officer,there's somebody in the ditch.
Yeah, right.

Mark (11:28):
Yeah, whatever. I'd be getting

Sarah (11:30):
a license plate of that jerk.

Mark (11:31):
Yep. And finds a dead body in the trunk. This is a great
setup. This is a great setup. Weknow we know Jules.
Yeah. We know Jules is gonna beinnocent. Yeah. But we have a
dead body with no shoes on thetrunk. It's immediately a
mystery.

Sarah (11:49):
Dun dun dun. Yes. Let's talk about the Wadsworths.

Mark (11:52):
Yes. The

Sarah (11:53):
house of horrible people.

Mark (11:54):
So this is the house in which the Pluto game took place.

Sarah (11:58):
Yes. Miss Scarlet was murdered there by the old
housekeeper. By the housekeeper.

Mark (12:02):
Who was now in prison. She wasn't old.

Sarah (12:04):
No. The former. The former housekeeper who was now
in prison.

Mark (12:08):
Yes. And we never met the Wadsworth.

Sarah (12:11):
No. Because they were on the continent.

Mark (12:14):
But I But this is clearly a thing that Tim Baum placed in
the the filing cabinet in hishead, way at the back. He's
like, we will get back to theWadsworth.

Sarah (12:28):
I think it's more like, this is really a great filming
location and it was easy for usto book. We should use it again.

Mark (12:34):
Agreed. It is definitely those two things.

Sarah (12:38):
So we've got Dolly and Jonti, brother and sister. Yes.
Right? It's Dolly's ninetiethbirthday. Yes.
I think Jonti is older.

Mark (12:46):
So one thing in this episode that is in the setup
that is then completelyforgotten is that this is her
ninetieth birthday party and shewants people to come dressed for
a decade that she was alive.Mhmm.

Sarah (13:03):
That's a weird request. She's old and rich.

Mark (13:09):
Very can make secret look party like already is difficult.
But, yeah.

Sarah (13:15):
But by those rules though, people could just wear
whatever they want because she'salive now.

Mark (13:22):
Exactly. Right? The the twenty twenties is a decade. Oh
my gosh. The 20s.

Sarah (13:28):
So she's 90 and 23 when was she born?

Mark (13:31):
Living on the moon and driving flying was born

Sarah (13:34):
in '33? Yes. So you've got the 30s, so you're post
flapper. Yes. So World War I,World War II fashion, all the
way to the '50s, the '60s.
You could do Madonna '80s Yes.Bullet bra if you wanted to.
Yes. I mean, really

Mark (13:51):
Why does Doctor. Death Magnet not wear a bullet bra?

Sarah (13:54):
You know, I've got an argument about that. I don't
think that Plummer is a deathmagnet.

Mark (14:00):
Okay. The last two episodes he has found dead
people.

Sarah (14:03):
I know. But Three, three dead people. But I don't I don't
think that's the definingcharacteristic. I think

Mark (14:11):
Okay.

Sarah (14:12):
His defining characteristic is that he
associates with the wrongpeople.

Mark (14:16):
Well, okay.

Sarah (14:17):
Because notice, Rev Green is never with him. No. Right?
No. Green says, you wanna gohang out with the Wadsworths?
Have fun. I'm not coming withyou. Yeah. Because I'm sure he
could have come to the party. Hechose not before.

Mark (14:30):
He was there for the the The Pluto. Pluto episode.

Sarah (14:33):
But, no. He's like, if you're gonna hang out with those
people, I'm not coming. No. He'sgot better taste in people.

Mark (14:40):
I'd also like to know what Doctor Death Magnet now does
because he was supposed to takeover the fire station.

Sarah (14:48):
But clearly, he has not. No. He didn't. He said he
couldn't.

Mark (14:51):
He said

Sarah (14:52):
he said it would ruin his marriage.

Mark (14:53):
It would ruin his marriage.

Sarah (14:54):
So what is he doing? He's a psychotherapist, isn't he? Or
a psychiatrist.

Mark (14:59):
Supposedly psychotherapist never sees patients and never
talks to someone?

Sarah (15:02):
He does. It all happens in Riverstone. Oh, okay. See it
there. We're not allowed to seeRiverstone.

Mark (15:06):
The of Riverstone.

Sarah (15:08):
Yes. That's where it happens.

Mark (15:08):
Cloak over it.

Sarah (15:10):
Right. I mean, is just a weekend. Right? Yes. So Monday
through Friday, he's a hardworking therapist.

Mark (15:15):
Now I wanna I wanna I wanna briefly interject and
speak to all the parents outthere. Our second child is
almost off to work today. So wewill have two children at work
today, and we will be alone inthe house.

Sarah (15:30):
The two of us and we're doing this. Yes. But we are
excited that we get to eat lunchtogether. Yeah. Not include
children.
We get to eat whatever we want.

Mark (15:40):
They're wonderful, but ordering food is just

Sarah (15:44):
You know, yesterday, We're on a tangent already.
Yesterday, I was leaving work,and I was talking to a couple
people before I left, and wewere talking about the weekend
and what plans we had. And Isaid, I'm going home now because
I think when I get there, Imight be alone in the house. And

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they were like, and you'retalking to us? Get out of here,
go, go!
Like I was gonna speed home andbe like, I'm home alone. And I
got home, and Olive walked outand went,

Mark (16:15):
what are you doing here? Because now she's a country
music singer.

Sarah (16:20):
Dang old dog. Okay. So Dolly and Jonte used to be a
duo, a musical act. Yes.

Mark (16:27):
Brothers They toured and the world.

Sarah (16:29):
So Jonte did not get married. No. But we assume Dolly
did Yes. Because she's gotgrandchildren, and either her
daughter or her son and theirspouse died.

Mark (16:39):
In in an avalanche in Switzerland.

Sarah (16:41):
Yes. Saint Maritz. Wow. So she's had to raise her
grandchildren. Yes.
Charles and Belinda.

Mark (16:48):
Which I'm gonna say, Charles is a unlikable get, but
he doesn't kill anybody.

Sarah (16:54):
No. But he sent his best friend to prison and Yes.
Perjured himself.

Mark (16:58):
He did in fact do those things.

Sarah (17:00):
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. He's bad. Yeah.
And this whole family has weirdsibling relationships.

Mark (17:07):
Indeed. It has the rich people with weird sibling
relationships vibe to it.

Sarah (17:12):
Dolly and Jontie have clearly spent too much time
together. They hate each other.

Mark (17:16):
Do not like each other.

Sarah (17:17):
Linda and Charles are just very much on the family
tradition.

Mark (17:20):
How could you live in the same house and be like that with
a person? I would just move.

Sarah (17:25):
I don't know. But as Dolly, I I think having one
child was probably a smartthing. Even though her child
tragically died, at least sheonly had the one.

Mark (17:32):
Yes. So the reason why we're talking about the
Wadsworth is because Jules wasat the party at the Wadsworth
where she obviously picked upthe dead body.

Sarah (17:41):
The other people at the party, Victor Cantrell, Boy
Wonder

Mark (17:45):
Yes.

Sarah (17:45):
Who's now 60 I I think Their protege.

Mark (17:49):
He does a great job being slightly skeezy and suspect the
whole time. Like, you're kind oflike, did he do it? And like, up
to the very end until Iremembered what happened, I was
like, did he do it?

Sarah (18:05):
Okay. Victor is a grown ass man who is still idolizing
two crotchety old people. Heisn't. He's made bad choices in
his He's made bad choices. Thisis a house full of bad choices,
okay?

Mark (18:17):
Though when Mike asks him if he stays in the house, he
goes, no.

Sarah (18:21):
No. He's not a sick fan. Like, he will criticize Dolly.
He's like, he says their storiesare boring and things like that.
But he's clearly given a lot ofhis life over to these two
people.

Mark (18:32):
Well, they're taking care of him, obviously.

Sarah (18:35):
Are they? I don't know.

Mark (18:36):
Maybe.

Sarah (18:37):
So he's at the party, Doctor Death, Roger Plummer,
he's at the party. Yes. Thenthere's Tamuka, who is Jonti's
nurse

Mark (18:47):
Yes.

Sarah (18:48):
Who is the grandson of a man who was the family chef in
Zimbabwe Yes. When they ran thetobacco plantations way back
when.

Mark (18:57):
When it was Rhodesia before the war. They do a
fantastic episode of this, inthis episode of glossing over
war and genocide in Africa, likewhatever.

Sarah (19:09):
I don't know much about that country except what I heard
in the news. Hopefully, it'sbetter now. Anyway, who else is
at the party?

Mark (19:17):
There are a lot of people in the video that just were at
the party and then left. Theyjust disappear. Yeah.

Sarah (19:24):
I it's like there's 10 people at the party max. It's a
small room anyway.

Mark (19:29):
It's it's kind of like the remember the episode where they
were playing the game with thecoins? Mhmm. There were a lot of
people in that room. Mhmm. Andthen they all went away.

Sarah (19:39):
Yeah. Yeah. So since this is a party for jerks Yes. Even
the caterer is a jerk.

Mark (19:45):
Yes.

Sarah (19:45):
Apprentice, who has the worst hair ever. What is that
hair? Is that middle aged mantrying to recapture youth hair

Mark (19:55):
or what? I don't I don't know.

Sarah (19:58):
He's got a bob.

Mark (19:59):
All I know is Flat. If I had Karen hair and I was in the
position I am, I would wannachange my hair.

Sarah (20:06):
You think he has Karen hair?

Mark (20:07):
It's a little bit Karen hair.

Sarah (20:09):
He has a greasy bob.

Mark (20:10):
He does?

Sarah (20:11):
It's not flattering.

Mark (20:12):
Oh. And he does and the actor who plays him does an
excellent job of being skeezy.Being a greasy bob. Yeah. Yeah.
And Like that moment where hegoes to knock on the glass door
and he hears the baby Yeah. Isperfect.

Sarah (20:29):
Yeah. He but the catering operation is like they're
catering a party for 50.

Mark (20:34):
And there's two of them.

Sarah (20:36):
It's him and Gaia, who he hires at the last minute. He
only ever had one other personworking with him. And yet he's
taken inventory of dishes andglasses like he's just done a
party for 1,000. Yeah. I don'tunderstand.
And Are we supposed to thinkthat he cooks? That he makes
food? I don't know. Or did hejust do drink service? Though
there are some other waitersthere.

Mark (20:57):
There are.

Sarah (20:58):
There are some other service.

Mark (20:58):
There are other waiters.

Sarah (21:00):
So now that I think about it, he did have more than one
person hired to help. But Gaiashowed up not dressed apart.
She's also kind of a loser jerk.Okay.

Mark (21:10):
Gaia is that person who you look at and you go, they're
a nice person, but they'realways getting themselves into
trouble.

Sarah (21:20):
I don't think she's a nice person at all. I think
she's a horrible person.

Mark (21:23):
That's true. She kinda is she's awfully taunty at the

Sarah (21:26):
end. Yeah. Drunk people are usually more themselves than
less themselves. That's who shereally is.

Mark (21:32):
That's true. And I did actually think that her getting
up on the the side of theveranda was realistic.

Sarah (21:39):
The balcony? Yeah. Yeah. That's the kind of thing that
she seemed like she would belikely to do. If we're talking
about this party Yes.
We've got a whole bucket ofjerks at the bottom. I would
say, though Temuka is a killer,I would put him slightly higher

Mark (21:54):
Yes.

Sarah (21:55):
Than the rest of them. And then there's Plummer at the
top who just has badassociations

Mark (22:01):
with He has bad friends. Yeah. That's what he has.

Sarah (22:03):
He associates with the wrong people. Yeah. But by far
the highest quality person atthe party, I guess. The rest of
them are just awful. Yeah.
All the Wadsworths are awful.Yeah. And Victor's awful. No one
claims to recognize the body,though they all know who she is.
Yeah.
Everybody lies.

Mark (22:22):
Everyone lies.

Sarah (22:23):
Everybody looks at the phone Yep. And pretends they
don't.

Mark (22:27):
No idea.

Sarah (22:27):
Never seen her before.

Mark (22:28):
They totally close ranks.

Sarah (22:30):
Now, Plummer does say he saw her in the kitchen. Yes.
Again, highest quality person atthe party

Mark (22:36):
is plumber. When doctor plumber is your highest quality
person.

Sarah (22:41):
Prentice's business seems to be run out of his garage.

Mark (22:45):
Yeah. It's a home based business. He's got a car. A van.
A van, That's just full ofglasses.

Sarah (22:52):
Mean, it's just glasses apparently. Just racks of
glasses. There's still plasticracks of glasses in the kitchen
at the house. Yeah. I did noticein the kitchen.
Yep. Like, did they just takeone sip out of each glass and
then put it down? I mean, theother thing in his garage is he

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has a pair of blue pickleballbats on the wall.

Mark (23:16):
Well, you know, when you're not doing catering, you
wanna play some pickleball.

Sarah (23:20):
It's Prentiss Prestige catering with the pickleball
paddles.

Mark (23:25):
And now we have the name of the episode. The thing I
wanna know about him is, did hecook? And usually in a small
town, when you do catering, it'sfrom a restaurant in town. Like,
let's what restaurant could wechoose? Ray's Pizzeria.

(23:46):
Mhmm. Right? So, you go to Ray'sand you say, I'm having a party
with 40 people, can you caterthe party?

Sarah (23:52):
Can you make pizza for 40, mister pigeon? Not everybody
wants pizza. Because You havesmall scale caterers. People
people who make cakesespecially.

Mark (24:04):
I understand all that, but in a small town, you usually
don't have that. Like, we livein a town with 40,000 people in
it, I bet you there's nocaterers that just do catering
except for ones that haverestaurant attachments, except
for the one you're thinkingabout right now.

Sarah (24:20):
Except for the seven thinking of right now.

Mark (24:22):
Okay. Well, I could be wrong.

Sarah (24:24):
That we hire a school to

Mark (24:25):
cater I'm not aware of the catering incident. Catering
economy. Industry.

Sarah (24:31):
Dahli and Jonti don't like each other. No. Right?
Jonti's on his deathbedupstairs. Tamuka is his nurse.
Yes. And he is an actual nurseand does seem to actually give
medical care to Jonti. He's nota faker or anything. Until he
kills him. Until he kills him.
This is a spoiler podcast by theWe're going to tell you, we have
already told you.

Mark (24:51):
By the way, easiest acting job in the world.

Sarah (24:55):
Jaunty? Yes. Yeah. Lay in bed and be crotchety.

Mark (24:57):
Yep. Naughty. Even crotchety. How many lines does

Sarah (25:00):
he have? Like three? Yeah. But Easy gig. Dolly's
party is downstairs.
Jonte can't come to the party,obviously, because he's upstairs
on his deathbed. Yes. So Dollyhas Tamuka set up a livestream
for him.

Mark (25:13):
Yes.

Sarah (25:14):
Which just seems cruel.

Mark (25:16):
It does, it does.

Sarah (25:18):
And tells you a lot about their relationship.

Mark (25:20):
It does indeed.

Sarah (25:20):
And Jonti has no interest in watching it either. She even
comes to the camera and goes,why don't you just die already?
She's a great actress. Did younotice every day that old, and
she's awesome.

Mark (25:32):
Did you notice she never sits properly on any piece

Sarah (25:35):
of No. She doesn't.

Mark (25:39):
Which I think is fun. Her legs up Slumped. Slumped over or
something. She obviously said,okay, this lady is going to not
sit properly on anything.

Sarah (25:49):
It's gonna be her signature thing. Yep. She must
have been a great grandmother.Yeah. An awesome grandmother.
A fun grandmother. Maybe not areliable one.

Mark (25:58):
Well, she's gonna be well, as we get to what happens
afterwards,

Sarah (26:03):
she She raised a couple of jerks.

Mark (26:04):
Yep. But she's a great grandmother now and needs to to
definitely

Sarah (26:09):
She's literally a great grandmother. Yep. So Well, no.
Great aunt.

Mark (26:14):
Great aunt. Yes. Yes.

Sarah (26:15):
Jules is engaged to Charles, the wads

Mark (26:18):
worst It's on again and off again. Charles is like,
don't tell the police about me.Oh, I love you.

Sarah (26:24):
How old do you think he's supposed to be?

Mark (26:26):
Early forties. That old?

Sarah (26:28):
Yeah. I was thinking mid thirties. How old do you think
Jules is supposed to be?

Mark (26:32):
Late forties.

Sarah (26:34):
So ten fifteen years between Is that too much of an
age gap?

Mark (26:38):
Jules looks at people and says, how much money do you
have? And then says, I'mattracted to you. I would if it
wasn't and Sims puts the nail onthe head and says she has more
husbands than Mike has

Sarah (26:59):
wives. Yeah.

Mark (27:00):
And you're like,

Sarah (27:02):
oof. And they all die while she's visiting her mother.
Yeah. She she definitely has

Mark (27:07):
I a love that little part where Chalmers is like, were you
visiting your mother? And she'slike, my mother died. And Sims
is like,

Sarah (27:20):
because Chalmers is like, were you in Hamilton visiting
your mother again? My mom died.

Mark (27:30):
Sims is like, oh, whoops.

Sarah (27:32):
Oops. So Zara has fallen and broken her neck, And she
also has bruises all over oneside of her body.

Mark (27:38):
Zara and Gaia are the same person. We're going to use that
name interchangeably.

Sarah (27:43):
Yeah, it's hard not to.

Mark (27:44):
It's hard

Sarah (27:44):
not to. She because she fell from the balcony.

Mark (27:47):
Yes.

Sarah (27:47):
And Gina, of course, figures that out very quickly.

Mark (27:51):
Now, do you think this is possible? She is roughly 20 feet
in the air.

Sarah (27:57):
Mhmm.

Mark (27:58):
She falls onto a gravel driveway. No. It's concrete.
It's concrete? Okay.
Yeah. It's asphalt. Okay. Shefalls onto asphalt. Mhmm.
You think she's dying? Yeah. Ithink she has a definite
possibility of dying, but shehas, I would say, an equal
possibility of being hurt. So

Sarah (28:14):
Yeah. I agree with that. So Especially since she's drunk.
So she's either loosey goosey,which makes you decreases your
chance of serious injury. Orshe's drunk, so she doesn't have
the wherewithal to fall wellYes.
Now and falls on her head first.

Mark (28:32):
Yes. She she has equal percentage possibility. Mhmm.
Which is why I feel slightlyeasier in saying that this is
actually an accident. I don'tknow if

Sarah (28:46):
I agree with that. It's difficult. We'll see. We'll get
to the end. Yes.
We'll pass verdict at the end.How

Mark (28:51):
about Yes. Absolutely.

Sarah (28:53):
So Gaia has come to town. Gaia Zara has come to town

Mark (28:58):
Yes.

Sarah (28:59):
Because her mother, Ginny

Mark (29:01):
Yes.

Sarah (29:02):
Also lives there. Yes. And Gaia Zara is a person who
makes very bad choices and hascome back beforehand in the past
to just get money, and hermother's basically trying to cut
her off for her own good.

Mark (29:18):
Now, there is a child involved with this.

Sarah (29:21):
Yeah. But now she's come back with a baby.

Mark (29:23):
Now she has a baby. Now when they first go visit Ginny,
she gets them away from thetrailer right away by going down
to the beach to collect mussels.

Sarah (29:34):
Mhmm. Ginny. You're talking about you said when they
and them Sorry. So when Mike andand Sims first visit Jenny at
the trailer She gets them downto the beach pretty quickly.

Mark (29:47):
Away from the trailer.

Sarah (29:48):
Because the baby's there.

Mark (29:50):
You learn lady later because the baby's there, but I
thought they did that reallywell.

Sarah (29:55):
Yeah. I did too.

Mark (29:56):
Like, you don't feel like, oh, something's up here. No. No.
It seems completely natural thatshe's like, whatever. I'm gonna
do this thing.
You can come with me if

Sarah (30:05):
you want. She lives in a trailer basically in kind of a
park. Yep. She's a veryindependent woman Yep. Who kind
of lives an isolated life.
She's one of those. We've seenthem in lots of shows. The I'm
gonna do what I'm gonna do, andif you wanna talk to me, follow
me because I'm gonna go do whatI do.

Mark (30:22):
It's a Trudy like person.

Sarah (30:24):
Mhmm. Mhmm.

Mark (30:25):
And so I think it really worked there. Yeah. Because then
when the reveal of the babyhappens, it's much better. Yeah.
And you go back and go, ah.

Sarah (30:35):
That's why she wanted to get them away from the trailer.
Yeah. Because she didn't wantthem to find out. Yes. And when
they show her the picture ofGaia and she finds out that her
daughter is dead, she neverwished her harm.
No. She just knew that no helpthat she gave her would ever
actually help her. Yes. It'salmost like Gaia was an addict
or something, and she just hadto, like, just cut her off.

Mark (30:57):
You know? It's totally played as if Gaia's an addict.

Sarah (31:02):
What Ginny doesn't know is that Gaia has learned who her
father is, and it's JontiWadsworth.

Mark (31:08):
And she's known for a while.

Sarah (31:09):
And has been skis and money off of him too. Yes. And
his reaction is far worse thanjust cutting her off. He sends
his nurse to kill her.

Mark (31:19):
Yeah. That is the thing I do not like about this episode
is that Jonti sends him to killher. He would never go. Like, I
know he's a killer.

Sarah (31:32):
I don't think Tamuka ever had the intention of actually
murdering Gaia if he found her.That's why Jonti sent him. Yeah.
But I don't think he ever wouldhave gone through with it and
probably knew that he neverwould go through with it.

Mark (31:45):
Okay.

Sarah (31:45):
That's why he had arranged for the death
certificate to fake it andprobably hoped that she would
never show up. So but also hadno problem taking Jonti's money
afterwards as payment forkilling her. Yeah. He has some
But Jonti is a horrible person.

Mark (32:01):
Jonti's a horrible person. But Tamuka's only slightly
better. Slightly. Charles'sister, what's her name?
Belinda.
Belinda is in a relationshipwith Tamuka.

Sarah (32:16):
But also engaged to Alastair who's in prison for the
fraud that he committed withCharles.

Mark (32:20):
So where do you think that relationship is? Do you think
that's a friends with benefitsrelationship or more? In reality
and in her head?

Sarah (32:30):
I think in her head, it's some kind of convenient
relationship that she probablysees as

Mark (32:37):
When I'm drunk and want to fool around

Sarah (32:40):
Possessive of him because he's less than her because he's
the help. Yep. And I think thathe absolutely understands that
that's the position that he'sin. Yep. I don't think he thinks
that he's in love with her orshe's in love with him.

Mark (32:53):
So I think her him going to the city to pretend to kill
Gaia and falling in love withGaia fits. I think that works.

Sarah (33:02):
Mhmm.

Mark (33:03):
Because I'm away from these people now. Yeah. And I'm
happy.

Sarah (33:07):
Well, and if Gaia was having a good day, she was
probably charming. Yeah. Youknow? They seem, The photos that
they show of the two of themtogether are convincing that
they were happy together. Yes.
But he did lie to her about hisname and who

Mark (33:20):
he The best of the worst.

Sarah (33:22):
He didn't say, I'm your grandfather's nurse, I've come
to kill you. No. But I'm notgoing to.

Mark (33:27):
He forgot to mention that over dinner.

Sarah (33:29):
Now, that would have been smart. Yeah. Because then the
two of

Mark (33:32):
them So how can we get more money out

Sarah (33:34):
of the old

Mark (33:36):
bamboozled the jerk. Because he also took advantage
of my family. Mhmm. So I'm goingto take advantage of him with
you.

Sarah (33:45):
Yeah. Yeah. They could have teamed up. Yep. And not
just for greed, but for forjustice.

Mark (33:51):
Almost. Yeah.

Sarah (33:52):
Like, he sent Tamuka to kill me. Let's go to the police
tell them about that.

Mark (33:57):
If they took a bunch of money from Jonti and conspired
to do that and did nothing else

Sarah (34:03):
Didn't kill him.

Mark (34:05):
Didn't kill him, I think Mike would be like, you're on
your own.

Sarah (34:09):
Yeah. Yeah. The rev green is back at the church, and we
get the first incidents of thespecial cam. Vacuum cam.

Mark (34:17):
Vacuum cam. Now if you remember, this is not the first
instance of vacuum cam we havehad on mystery maniacs.

Sarah (34:26):
When have we had vacuum cam before?

Mark (34:28):
There is a midsummer episode with vacuum cam.

Sarah (34:31):
Oh, yeah? Yes. Maybe it's some inside joke.

Mark (34:35):
This is our second instant incident of

Sarah (34:40):
Vacuum cam.

Mark (34:41):
Vacuum cam.

Sarah (34:42):
No. Maybe it's some inside joke among like show
producers and videographers thatlike you try to slip in at least
one vacuum cam in a show. Maybe.Strap a camera to a vacuum.

Mark (34:53):
Like I know that the Broken Wood people haven't
leaned into it, but many peoplecall them the Midsummer of New
Zealand. Right? They have beenlinked to the show several
times.

Sarah (35:05):
That makes sense to me, not because that they're so
similar, but because they have asimilar level of coziness and

Mark (35:13):
And so I don't think this is a callback to Midsommar. No.
I think this is we have a toythat we can put on a vacuum.

Sarah (35:20):
Hey, look. We got this new little camera.

Mark (35:22):
Yeah. Let's put it on stuff.

Sarah (35:24):
What can we put it on? A vacuum. Vacuum. Yes. It's the
same thing you'd use for likekiller cam,

Mark (35:31):
knife I

Sarah (35:32):
do love Laird's coffin cam.

Mark (35:34):
Yes. I do love that he vacuums the church because that
is a thing that a priest does.

Sarah (35:41):
But Plummer's the one vacuuming.

Mark (35:42):
Well

Sarah (35:43):
Because he's so sorry they stayed out

Mark (35:45):
all night. He's so sorry he stayed all night, but at
least he didn't try to bringsome young man home.

Sarah (35:53):
If green can guilt plumber into doing chores every
time plumber has made a badchoice, their house is pissed. I
am all

Mark (36:00):
for And

Sarah (36:03):
plumber's like, yeah, I deserve it.

Mark (36:05):
But churches, like, those are the things that people
forget, that churches needmaintenance on a regular basis.

Sarah (36:12):
That's what the flower ladies are for, isn't it? Don't
they do that kind of stuff?

Mark (36:16):
The organ lady might do it occasionally, but if he wants to
make sure the plumber does theright thing.

Sarah (36:23):
Core plumber realizes that he has not told Mike
exactly the truth and goes tothe police station and talks to
Kristen

Mark (36:33):
Yes.

Sarah (36:34):
And accepts an offer of coffee Yes. And makes the
perfect

Mark (36:39):
face. Then it is it is such a great run on joke that
they don't have to make a bigdeal

Sarah (36:46):
about Nobody has to say it.

Mark (36:47):
No one has

Sarah (36:48):
to say We're all watching. Is he gonna drink it?
Is he gonna drink it? He drankit. We're all

Mark (36:53):
looking for the coffee, and there it is.

Sarah (36:57):
When at the whiteboard later, Kristen says that
Warhol's first work was an adfor shoes. Yes. Did you look
them up, the ads?

Mark (37:07):
No, I didn't.

Sarah (37:08):
They are absolutely typical Warhol sketches of very
dainty pointy shoes.

Mark (37:14):
Oh. A lot of people get started in advertising. A lot of
people, a lot of filmmakers likeRidley Scott. Well, first of
all, we I don't think we've toldthis story on the podcast
before. Ridley Scott was a guy.

Sarah (37:29):
Ridley Scott who directed Aliens. A guy

Mark (37:33):
on Z car. Zed car.

Sarah (37:35):
Mhmm. We have talked about that.

Mark (37:37):
Yeah. And somebody walked up to him and said, do you want
a directed episode? Alien.Right. So Ridley Scott did a ton
of commercials.
He did famously that 1984 Applecommercial.

Sarah (37:53):
That that totally sir fits his style now.

Mark (37:57):
David Lynch did probably the weirdest car commercial of
all time. I cannot describe it.You have to go see it.

Sarah (38:05):
David Lynch car car commercial?

Mark (38:07):
It is bonkers.

Sarah (38:09):
Give it a Google.

Mark (38:10):
So lots of people did this. So I can assume that she's
telling the truth that Warholdid this.

Sarah (38:17):
It is in fact true. Another artist who didn't get
his start doing advertising, butdid at least one advertising is
Dolly. Do you want to guess whatDolly did? I'll give you a hint.
He drew the logo for a brandthat is still its logo today.

Mark (38:35):
Oh, wow. Yes. I didn't know that.

Sarah (38:37):
Yes. Drew it in an hour on the back of a newspaper.

Mark (38:40):
Oh. He's a special guy.

Sarah (38:43):
Mhmm. But he was well into his career when he did it.

Mark (38:46):
I don't know.

Sarah (38:47):
Do do you know what a chuppa chupp is?

Mark (38:49):
Chuppa chupp.

Sarah (38:50):
Chuppa chupp. The lollipops? Yes. He drew the
chuppa chupp logo. Oh, wow.
And told them to put it on thetop of the lollipop instead of
on the side, which is like theirsignature thing.

Mark (39:00):
He's a totally smart guy.

Sarah (39:01):
Yeah. But just just kinda whipped it out like as a it's a
doodle.

Mark (39:05):
We haven't talked about it, and I'll put the trailer in
the the show notes, but there'sa new movie coming out called
This Is Not a Murder in which amurder happens at a collection
of surrealists in a Countryhouse. In a country house. It's
a country house murder, a cozy,but with Dolly and Man Ray

Sarah (39:28):
All kinds of strange people.

Mark (39:30):
All sorts of strange people. It looks fantastic.

Sarah (39:33):
Well, I got to thinking, like, it's it's so odd that
Warhol did a shoe ad. I wasthinking, what products would
other famous artists havecreated ads for if they did?
Yes. And the first thought wasPicasso doing a bra ad.

Mark (39:51):
That would be fun. Wow. You got

Sarah (39:54):
one of those cubist ladies who's got one boob on her
shoulder and one on her chest,and she's wearing a maiden form
or whatever, Playtex bra. Andthen I thought of Pollock doing
a Swiffer ad. Yes. BecausePollock always did his canvases
on the floor because they weregigantic.

Mark (40:14):
With like a wipe right Yeah, through the just one

Sarah (40:18):
clean clean swipe across the canvas where the Swiffer had
been.

Mark (40:22):
Oh my gosh. I know lots of people don't like Pollock. I
love Pollock, but the thought ofsomebody doing that to a Pollock
fan.

Sarah (40:29):
Cleaning a whole strip of it. Or the last one I thought of
was Duchamp?

Mark (40:35):
Yes.

Sarah (40:36):
What do you wanna

Mark (40:37):
So Duchamp relates to that trailer I'm telling you.

Sarah (40:41):
Yeah. Because he's

Mark (40:41):
because is the painter of the this is not a pipe picture.

Sarah (40:47):
Yeah.

Mark (40:47):
Right? It says on the picture, this is not a pipe.

Sarah (40:51):
And there's a picture of

Mark (40:52):
a pipe. And it's a picture of a pipe and it's true because
it's not a pipe, it's a pictureof a pipe. Right. And it's the
words of a pipe, it's allabstract, But also it is a pipe.

Sarah (41:02):
Okay. So if he was gonna do an ad, what would he do an ad
for?

Mark (41:06):
Deschamps. He could do green green. He has a famous
picture of a man in a bowler hatwith a green apple. Mhmm. And he
could do green apples.

Sarah (41:16):
Like Jolly Ranchers? Yes. Like green apple Jolly Ranchers?

Mark (41:19):
Something like that.

Sarah (41:20):
So another thing that he's famous for is the fountain
Yes. Which is a mass producedurinal Yes. Just sitting in the
corner So of a gallery as apiece of art.

Mark (41:32):
You could do, like, maybe Kohler would hire him.

Sarah (41:35):
Well, I was thinking, like, Lysol.

Mark (41:36):
Oh, okay.

Sarah (41:37):
Bathroom cleaner. Somebody's gotta clean it.

Mark (41:40):
Someone's gotta clean

Sarah (41:41):
it. Because every once in a while, somebody tries to pee
in

Mark (41:43):
it. Yeah.

Sarah (41:44):
Even in the museum. Wow. That didn't get stolen from the
Louvre.

Mark (41:48):
By the way, we didn't rob the Louvre.

Sarah (41:50):
No. No. Crossed us off the list.

Mark (41:52):
Nope. We did not do it.

Sarah (41:54):
You know I didn't do it because they went up on that
ladder and there's no way Iwould do that.

Mark (41:58):
Thought about it. We about You know?

Sarah (42:01):
We rented the scooters and everything.

Mark (42:03):
But And then we just kinda ran.

Sarah (42:05):
Yeah. I'd rather record a podcast. Let's go do

Mark (42:07):
that. Wouldn't it be nice to leave this country?

Sarah (42:09):
We're in Paris. Let's have a snack. Jules' antique
shop is called the House ofJules.

Mark (42:16):
It's the House of Jewels and

Sarah (42:18):
And it's like a shack.

Mark (42:19):
When they go in, they should look around because it's
also the same place as the womanin the coin episode Yeah. Runs
her shop out.

Sarah (42:30):
Yeah. It's the same storefront.

Mark (42:32):
It's the same storefront.

Sarah (42:33):
The same gift shack.

Mark (42:34):
Yep. The counter is in the same place.

Sarah (42:37):
Oh, it's white. It's practically the same store.

Mark (42:40):
Exactly the same store.

Sarah (42:41):
Except Jules has a whiteboard that says furniture
and accessories or somethingwritten on it.

Mark (42:48):
What is Jules doing? She got so much money from people.
What is she doing working? Didshe? She remember she inherit
she got bunches of money.
Oh, but it got taken by the thethe European guy.

Sarah (43:03):
And it strikes me as she she strikes me as the kind of
person who blows it

Mark (43:08):
real I would assume that she blows through that money.

Sarah (43:11):
Or gives it away to some handsome guru or something. I
don't think that she's a smartinvestor.

Mark (43:19):
Yes.

Sarah (43:19):
Charles Wadsworth and Alastair, his business partner,
construction guy Yes. Havecommitted major fraud.

Mark (43:28):
Yes.

Sarah (43:29):
Right? Enough that Alastair went to prison for it,
not for a month, for a longtime. And Charles

Mark (43:36):
casually admits that he framed him and that, oh, well, I
got away with it. To the police.

Sarah (43:44):
He admits that to the police, which is why he's broken
up with Jules because he says,you can never be with me if you
knew what I'd done. And whathe's done is frame his best
friend Yeah. And let him go toprison.

Mark (43:56):
But then he gets over it.

Sarah (43:57):
I think by the time he's admitting it to the police, he's
like, look, I'm a bad person.I'm your redeemable, whatever.
Yes. He probably also thinksthat he got away with it and
they can't do anything.

Mark (44:08):
I would think that as well.

Sarah (44:10):
Then we Just another example of poor behavior.

Mark (44:12):
So the the most egregious not showing us is Gaia's phone.

Sarah (44:19):
Mhmm.

Mark (44:20):
Because Gaia's phone has pictures of her and Tamuka on
it. And after they set it inrice and blow air over it

Sarah (44:28):
Don't forget, it's in the bowl that Mike has bought from
Jules to get her handwriting tomatch it to the note Yes. In
Gaia's hotel room.

Mark (44:36):
Which is a nice callback that we don't even hear. We find
out quickly after that Tamukaknew Gina. Gaia. Gaia. At this
point in time, the old ladytries to save everybody.

Sarah (44:51):
Dolly? Yeah. Yeah. She confesses everything and Mike's
like, and how'd you put her inthe car? Kind of falls apart at
that point.

Mark (45:02):
Do we like Dolly more because she does this?

Sarah (45:05):
Maybe. But I think she's doing it because she knows that
her grandchildren were probablyinvolved. Yes. And they're
assholes, and it's probably herfault because she raised them.
So maybe now at the end of herlife, she's like, I got nothing
to lose.
What are they going to do? Putme in prison?

Mark (45:21):
Yes.

Sarah (45:22):
I did it. So she's not really it's not self sacrifice

Mark (45:25):
on the

Sarah (45:26):
part is what I'm saying.

Mark (45:27):
What happens is Gaia talks to Temuka and says, I have a
baby now. His rich girlfriend

Sarah (45:36):
Well, and out of sheer chance, they run into each other
there.

Mark (45:39):
Yes.

Sarah (45:39):
Because she doesn't even know that she that that Temuka
is his is her grandfather's no.Her father's nurse.

Mark (45:45):
She does a really good job of going, what the hell are you
doing here?

Sarah (45:49):
Tom? Yes. No. My name is Mooka.

Mark (45:53):
And then then his girlfriend slash employer,
always a bad situation. Belinda.Belinda pushes him and he hits
Gaia and she falls off thebalcony.

Sarah (46:06):
But she's standing on the rail. Yes. Where you shouldn't
be, by the way.

Mark (46:11):
You this episode is your mother told you not to do that.
Mhmm. For good reason. Mhmm.Then the boy wonder is creeping
around.

Sarah (46:25):
Victor.

Mark (46:25):
And he knows everything but doesn't say anything. I
don't like him at all for thatreason. No. And Ginny had pulled
up in the car, missed everythingby a few moments, and then
drives away in a tragicsituation that her daughter's

Sarah (46:41):
Has no idea that her daughter has just been killed.

Mark (46:44):
A few yards away.

Sarah (46:46):
Yeah. Yeah. And that stupid Jules is about to take
the shoes off of Belinda's feetthat are actually Gaia's shoes,
and that Victor's lurking aroundand the boy Wonder's gonna try
to frame Jules for the murderYeah. By throwing the shoes with
her fingerprints into theAzaleas.

Mark (47:01):
They're all horrible people. Yes. Would you okay. I
know you put photos on caskets.Okay.

Sarah (47:08):
This one's got Blu Tack underneath it or something
because they move it all overthe place and it never falls
over. Yeah. You can't set aneasel frame like that on a shelf
without it falling over all byitself.

Mark (47:17):
You don't pick up a casket with anything on top of it
except for flowers. Maybe.Maybe. But where where are our
undertakers?

Sarah (47:29):
The awesome duo?

Mark (47:30):
Who would take care of that?

Sarah (47:32):
Yeah. They're not there. They should be.

Mark (47:36):
They should be.

Sarah (47:37):
The funeral so there's they're putting the casket in
the hearse to take it to thecrematorium, but Mike's like,
no.

Mark (47:44):
We need to have a meet at the house.

Sarah (47:47):
Well, no. He's like, the coroner needs to check out this
body. Gina needs to look at itbecause he thinks there's some
sus behavior going on withJonti's death, he's right. Yes.
Because Tamuka has injected himwith insulin.

Mark (48:01):
Why does he do that? I know he's mad at Jules for a
number of reasons, but why onthis night in particular does he
do that?

Sarah (48:08):
No, he's mad at Jaunty.

Mark (48:10):
At Jaunty.

Sarah (48:11):
I think Temuka killed Jaunty because he knows that
Gaia is Jaunty's daughter, andthat he was supposed to go and
kill Gaia, and he didn't. And sonow that Jonti knows, Jonti's
going to know that Tamuka lied,Tamuka's going to get turfed
out. He can't exactly call thepolice on him for fraud or

(48:32):
anything since he hired him tokill No. But he's gonna truth is
gonna come out, and he's gonnaget turfed out.

Mark (48:39):
Yeah. I agree. That works.

Sarah (48:41):
It's it's total self preservation.

Mark (48:43):
Yep. They have a meeting at the house where everybody
confesses to everything, andeveryone leaves.

Sarah (48:48):
And then Tamuka gets to meet his son.

Mark (48:50):
Tamuka and Belinda are led off by the cops. I think Charles
should be led off by the cops.

Sarah (48:57):
I think everybody except Dolly should be led off by the
cops. I think Charles admittedfraud and perjury and should be
taken off by the cops. Timucakilled Jonte, that's murder. I
think Belinda did kill Gaia. Ithink it's reckless manslaughter
that she shoved him knowing itwas

Mark (49:16):
like At the very least. At the very least.

Sarah (49:19):
You said it was an accident, but I I think you
could absolutely say that it wasat least reckless. Yep. And then
Victor should go because heframed Jules for the murder, so
he's an accessory.

Mark (49:29):
Plus he interfered with the investigation. Yep. They all
should be going up the pogie.

Sarah (49:34):
So in the end, it's Dolly and Ginny and the baby in the
big house hanging out.

Mark (49:39):
Now this is where it gets interesting, and I move to
appendix A from my

Sarah (49:44):
notes. About inheritance?

Mark (49:46):
Yes.

Sarah (49:47):
There's an assumption in the episode that with Gaia out
of the way, Charles and Belindaas the grandchildren will great
niece and nephew, sorry willsplit the inheritance, and
that's not true.

Mark (50:00):
Yes. That is completely incorrect.

Sarah (50:03):
But with Gaia dead, if she inherited the house, who's
it go to?

Mark (50:06):
Okay. According to the New Zealand Administration Act of
1969, if the disease has a aspouse, it goes to the spouse
and children, it's split. Ifthey have no children and a
spouse, it goes to the spouse.So she doesn't fall she falls in
the category of no spouse butchildren.

Sarah (50:27):
So everything would go to her son?

Mark (50:29):
Everything goes to her son.

Sarah (50:31):
The house goes because that's all she inherited, right,
is the house. Which is extremelyvaluable, I assume.

Mark (50:36):
And if she didn't have a son, because I looked this up
before I knew there was a baby

Sarah (50:41):
It would go to her mother.

Mark (50:42):
It would go to her mother.

Sarah (50:44):
So her mother's probably going to be

Mark (50:47):
The executor, because she's the closest living
relative.

Sarah (50:50):
Well, she's going to be his guardian. Yep. Right? Yep.
So Ginny's his guardian, so sheinherits the house on his behalf
Yes.
Until he's of age. Yes. AndDolly hasn't done anything wrong
except be a crotchety old weirdowho doesn't sit right.

Mark (51:06):
And so But Ginny could throw her out.

Sarah (51:08):
She could, but she could also let her stay.

Mark (51:10):
Yes. I don't think Charles should get any money. No. I
don't think Melinda's should getany money. No.
I don't think Tamuka should getany money.

Sarah (51:19):
No. You can't you can't profit from crime.

Mark (51:22):
But I think that Tamuka should form a relationship with
Ginny and the baby.

Sarah (51:28):
Well, it's not like Dolly holds it against him that he
killed her brother. Yeah. Whenhe gets out of jail No. She'll
be cool with it. Well, she'll bedead.

Mark (51:36):
No. I also think that a good lawyer like Mhmm. Who's a
good lawyer? Mister Buchanan andit's scotch, and is single malt
scotch, that he would say incourt that it was an accidental
overdose. He was at the party,he was upset, it was he didn't

(51:58):
Could.

Sarah (51:59):
Or he could argue extenuating circumstances and
say that Tamuka had been abusedby a Wadsworth family, and his
family was going backgenerations. He's a victim of
them.

Mark (52:10):
In a show in which you go up the pogie for murder for
about five minutes Mhmm. I thinkTamuka will get out before the
child's fifth birthday. Yeah. I

Sarah (52:20):
I think that's probably fair too.

Mark (52:22):
And then they all live in the house together.

Sarah (52:24):
If Dolly, Jenny, the baby, and Tamuka end up in the
house, I think that's okay.

Mark (52:30):
I I am I'm 100% okay with that.

Sarah (52:32):
I would like to see Charles and Belinda on work
release doing community serviceon the side of the road Yes.
Picking up trash.

Mark (52:39):
I think

Sarah (52:39):
they And Victor. They all deserve that.

Mark (52:43):
It is not the first time we've seen the trope of siblings
who hate each other and hateother people who are rich that
Timbalm has no patience for.

Sarah (52:57):
I want an episode of Belinda in the ladies prison.

Mark (53:00):
Oh, yeah.

Sarah (53:01):
Because she won't do well there. No.

Mark (53:05):
Jules will come see her on release.

Sarah (53:07):
She's awfully uppity. I don't think she's gonna do well
in that prison with the otherladies. But she deserve it.

Mark (53:15):
The Brokenwood Women's Prison.

Sarah (53:18):
It's a place. It's a place. It has a culture. And and
that the lady who runs it, has ajungle office.

Mark (53:25):
Yes. And that is old blood money. So next week is
Halloween. We are once againtaking the week off.

Sarah (53:34):
Mhmm.

Mark (53:34):
Because it is Halloween.

Sarah (53:35):
But it's our last weekend that we're gonna take off.

Mark (53:38):
On a regular basis. So we're back to once a week. Plus,
I think on Acorn comes out withtheir schedule on the first of
the month. Mhmm. And I think thelast week of that November 1,
they will say is the firstepisode of the new Midsummer's.
In November? They'll release onein November on the very last

(54:01):
Monday. Oh. And then do the restof them in December. That's what
they've done before.

Sarah (54:06):
Well, we'll see.

Mark (54:07):
Won't we? I bet that's what they're gonna do.

Sarah (54:10):
And if they do, we'll be making minis for them.

Mark (54:13):
And by the time that's all done with the new Brokenwood
season will be out. We've gotlots to We have tons to cover,
and we love you guys. And thankyou so much for being
understanding, and enjoy

Sarah (54:28):
And thanks for being with us for 250 episodes.

Mark (54:31):
250 episodes. We I cannot say thank you enough.
Absolutely.

Sarah (54:38):
Bye, maniacs.

Mark (54:39):
Bye, maniacs. Thanks for joining us on the mystery
maniacs podcast. If you enjoyedour crazy podcast today, don't
miss out on future episodes.Follow us on social media for
updates, beyond the scenescontent, and exclusive sneak
peeks. Subscribe, like, andshare to spread the word.
Bye, Maniacs. Midsummer women'sprison. Oh my gosh. Brokenwood.

(55:02):
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