All Things Buzzed and Pizza | Brokenwood | "The Garotte and the Vinkelbraun" | Mystery Maniacs Podcast EP237 - Mystery Maniacs

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Sarah (00:00):
Oh. Oh. And the splatters and the and you know, meanwhile.

(00:20):
Hey, maniacs.

Mark (00:21):
Hey, mystery maniacs. Welcome to Lovejoy.

Sarah (00:26):
I mean,

Mark (00:27):
Antique Roadshow.

Sarah (00:28):
I mean, no no no. You're funny.

Mark (00:31):
Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap podcast dedicated
to mystery TV. Each week we diginto an episode of the show
including the murders, themayhem, the loonies, and
everything else we love.

Sarah (00:42):
This week Broken Woods season seven episode one. The
Garat and the Vinkelbahn.Vinkelbahn should have been
something more interesting thana painter's name.

Mark (00:53):
Yeah.

Sarah (00:53):
It should have been like a luge ride or something like
I'm gonna go ride theWinklebahn. Yes. Or have you
ever driven on the Winklebahn?

Mark (01:01):
You can go as fast as you want on the Winklebahn.

Sarah (01:07):
That was the worst German accent ever. That was just Nazi.
It was no it wasn't even German.

Mark (01:14):
We have ways of making you Winkerbond. If you let your
kids, touch the Winklebond oropen the mystery cabinet, they
can listen to the podcast. Weare a spoiler podcast which
means we're gonna give awaywhat's in the mystery box as
well as who the killer is. It'sso weird we're existing in

(01:35):
season seven now and seasoneleven at the same time.

Sarah (01:38):
It's really confusing. We're doing mini episodes, the
spoiler free teaser episodes forseason eleven which was just
released and has been rollingout. And rewatching and
recording for season six and nowseven. And my brain is just

Mark (01:55):
And you think befuddled. That's only four seasons
different. But we are not at thehalfway point of Brokenwood yet.

Sarah (02:03):
No because there's more episodes in the later seasons.

Mark (02:05):
The later seasons have six episodes while the earlier
seasons have four episodes. Thisis episode, our episode two
thirty seven which trivia timemeans we have more episodes than
Friends.

Sarah (02:18):
Yes. It's official. But We're not nearly as popular.

Mark (02:24):
Halfway through this season we will be halfway
through Broken Wood.

Sarah (02:29):
That's cool.

Mark (02:30):
So, this is a big, big turning point for Brokenwood. A
couple of reasons, one, they'reoff the government dime now.
Mhmm. They gotta make their ownmoney. I think that's one of the
reasons why we see a step up inquality and difference in the
show.
I think they're a little more incontrol than they were before.

(02:52):
Also, this is an episodereleased the 03/29/2021. There's
a six month sixteen month breakbetween this and the last
episode because the paninihappened. Oh. The pandemic
happened and we weren't surewhat shows were gonna be made

(03:12):
where and how and this isdirected by Katie Wolf who
directed the last episode andwritten by Tim Baum and that
becomes majorly important.
Well, we survived the night,Sarah.

Sarah (03:25):
Was gonna say, you mentioned the pandemic. I was
gonna say, speaking of naturaldisasters, we survived one last
night. We went so just a littleaside. We went out to dinner for
my birthday a week late becausemy birthday weekend was also
graduation. Yes.
You can't you can't go toMcDonald's and get a seat on
graduation weekend. Forget it.

Mark (03:45):
So then I get Sarah Sarah said she wanted a cake and
wanted to go out to a fancyrestaurant.

Sarah (03:51):
I said I'd like to have a cool cake. I've never had a cool
cake. Yep. I've made them, butI've never had one. Yes.
And you got me one.

Mark (03:59):
So, wow. I could write a whole podcast about the the
quest for this cake. It was sixweeks I worked on this cake to
get To get it.

Sarah (04:10):
You didn't make it.

Mark (04:11):
I didn't make it.

Sarah (04:12):
No. I would have been impressed even if you did take
six weeks.

Mark (04:15):
I did take an hour and it took me two hours to drive to
get the cake and

Sarah (04:21):
It was worth it. Back and it was awesome.

Mark (04:23):
So tell people who haven't seen the pictures what the cake
looked like.

Sarah (04:28):
Yeah. So I have to tell the whole story then. Yeah. So
so Mark comes home from thislong car ride to pick up the
cake from the mysterious placewhere he got it made and brings
it home and takes it immediatelyout to the garage in a big box
and puts it in the fridge outthere and then invites each of
the kids to go out and look atit, but not speak to me

(04:48):
afterwards. And they all comeback going, oh.
Oh. Ah. Then we go out to dinnerand he has arranged for the
restaurant to serve the cake. SoI'm I'm still not allowed to
look. Nope.
Until they bring it out afterdinner. And just as we finished
eating dinner, the five of us,everyone's phone in the

(05:10):
restaurant goes off Everybecause there's a tornado
warning. Not a watch, not hey beon the lookout, but holy crap,
there's one here now, right? Sothe first time it happened,
everybody simultaneously picksup their phone. And there were
hundreds of people in thisrestaurant.
It's a hopping joint here intown. It's a really nice

(05:31):
restaurant. And it was justweird to hear all of those
alarms go off at the same time.

Mark (05:36):
It

Sarah (05:37):
was. But everybody kind of stayed put, right?

Mark (05:39):
And we got the cake

Sarah (05:41):
took some They bring the cake out.

Mark (05:42):
We put the pictures on the subreddit and we posted pictures
on the broadcast channel. I'llpost pictures on all our regular
channels so people can see them.

Sarah (05:53):
Because it's

Mark (05:54):
And I'll put one in the show notes.

Sarah (05:56):
It's worth looking at. Yeah. I have to say. So all the
only brief I gave you was I justwant a fun cake, but it's not
like from the grocery store, youknow? Like a like a cool cake.

Mark (06:07):
And And I was worried. Didn't get a lot of
communication with these people,so I was worried I was gonna get
a sheet cake that said, happyfiftieth Thera spelled wrong.
Yeah. Like I was worried.

Sarah (06:20):
But it was incredible. It was a two tiered cake that had
little zombies, little hands andfeet and little faces poking up
out of grass on each of thetiers and dirt. And it was like
gray icing. Yep. And it saidzombies ate my birthday on it.

Mark (06:37):
And it has

Sarah (06:40):
It had tombstones and little skulls on Tombstones and
little skulls. And pumpkins. Itwas probably odd to other people
in the restaurant that we werehaving a Halloween cake in May,
but I don't care.

Mark (06:50):
I don't care.

Sarah (06:50):
Because I loved it. It was awesome. And it was really
good. It was chocolate cake withraspberry in between

Mark (06:56):
the layers.

Sarah (06:57):
It was tasty. So we eat the cake.

Mark (07:00):
So we eat the cake, and then

Sarah (07:02):
And then the alarm goes off again,

Mark (07:04):
and I said, I'll take care of paying the bill and getting
the cake. You guys go to thecar.

Sarah (07:11):
Yeah. Because our idea was that we were just gonna get
home. And the kids and I pileout of the restaurant, and all
of the wait staff is usheringpeople into this basement
apartment underneath therestaurant, which could not fit
everybody who was in the Halfthe people going down there were
taking bottles of beer and wineand stuff with them. They

(07:31):
weren't leaving them behind. Butwe were going to go to the car.
So we go down this alley to theparking lot. And as soon as we
peek out of the alley on theother side, we see rotating
clouds. And I'm like, turnaround, we're going back. So I
send the kids down downstairs,and then I've got to find you.
And you're like doing the mathto pay the bill and leave a tip

(07:53):
and everything.
I'm like, come on. We gotta go.It's coming. I saw I saw it.
There is a there was a witchoutside.
Let's go. And so we go down We

Mark (08:04):
laugh, but there there are people who lost their lives. Not
anywhere near us, but Yeah.

Sarah (08:09):
But there was a tornado that touched down in town Yep.
Miles away from where we were.Yes. But wow, was it a party
down in that hallway?

Mark (08:18):
Oh, it was.

Sarah (08:18):
There were 50 people crammed in down there, half of
them with booze in hand, andwe're carrying a giant cake. And
you know me. You're makingfriends.

Mark (08:28):
I found a friend and a Leafs

Sarah (08:29):
fan. Xander and I are about to have an anxiety attack
because we're claustrophobic andit's loud and it's hot. And
we're like, is everybody gonnadie? I don't know what's gonna
happen. So we were fortunate.
So if you heard about storms inthe Midwest, we were fortunate
we were safe, but not everybodywas near us and in states close
to us. Yep. So we're thinkingabout those folks, but we will

(08:51):
not soon forget that birthdaydinner. Yes. Because it ended
with a tornado.

Mark (08:57):
And then we came home and watched hockey.

Sarah (08:59):
Yeah. Yeah. And the Leafs won last night.

Mark (09:01):
Yes. My hockey team won leading us to game seven on
Sunday night.

Sarah (09:06):
Which breaks the myth that you can't cut your beard or
your hair during playoff seasonbecause I gave you a haircut
yesterday and they still wonlast night. Yes. So we're safe.
We're safe. You no longer haveto look like woolly woolly
during playoff season.

Mark (09:19):
Unless they make it to the next round and then I can never
cut my hair again.

Sarah (09:23):
No. Then I have to cut it before every game.

Mark (09:26):
That's not gonna work.

Sarah (09:28):
Your hair grows pretty fast.

Mark (09:30):
Okay. The reason why I started off with Lovejoy and or
Antiques Roadshow is becausethis is a spoof, the opening for
all things old and beautiful.

Sarah (09:42):
Which is Antiques Roadshow Yes. On a much smaller
scale. There's only two people.There's only two people. There's
not an army of appraisers likethere is on Antiques Roadshow.
There is no Antiques RoadshowNew Zealand. I look to see. UK
version has been to New Zealand,but they don't have their own
version of the show. Like theydo in The UK and in The US.

Mark (10:02):
Everyone is here.

Sarah (10:03):
Maybe I'm a snob. I far prefer the UK Antiques Roadshow
over The US version.

Mark (10:09):
Yes.

Sarah (10:09):
And I love PBS. I do too. I think The US version is
interesting But when you'retalking about old stuff in The
US, there's just not there's nocomparison.

Mark (10:17):
I gotta tell you, both of them became less interesting to
me when I remembered the thingsthey were showing. Like like
comics that I had when I was akid and posters from movies that
I went to when they opened.Yeah. It was like

Sarah (10:34):
As you become an antique, it becomes less interesting,
isn't it?

Mark (10:38):
So, yeah. Everyone is here.

Sarah (10:40):
A ton of returning characters. So we've got Frodo.
We've got what's her name? Thethe horrible reporter. Kushla.

Mark (10:50):
Kushla. Gina's here. Mike is here.

Sarah (10:53):
Ray and Trudy.

Mark (10:54):
Ray and Trudy.

Sarah (10:55):
Missus m.

Mark (10:56):
And a Russian yak tusk.

Sarah (10:58):
Is it a tusk or a horn? It's a horn.

Mark (11:00):
It's a horn.

Sarah (11:01):
Yaks don't have tusks.

Mark (11:03):
And Mike's That

Sarah (11:03):
would be like a cow with big pointy fangs.

Mark (11:06):
Mike's trying to pawn off some 40 fives and they're like,
oh, they'd be good if theyweren't country.

Sarah (11:12):
Yeah. And But Trudy's got a box.

Mark (11:16):
This whole episode is kind of a goof on Mike for a couple
of reasons and that was one ofthem.

Sarah (11:22):
Yeah. He likes bad music. Yeah. So Trudy comes to the
parking lot and she's carrying abox. Missus M says, I hear it's
her ex husband's head.

Mark (11:31):
Which okay, Trudy is not a legal person.

Sarah (11:35):
But she's not going back to prison for taking her
husband's ex husband's head ontothe antique roadshow. Silly.
Because plus it would be drippy,wouldn't it?

Mark (11:44):
It would be drippy.

Sarah (11:45):
And the cabinet's not drippy. We find out later it's
just a bunch of doll heads,which is creepy. Yeah. But not
illegal. What did you think wasgoing be in the box?

Mark (11:55):
Thought it

Sarah (11:56):
was going When you first watched it.

Mark (11:57):
Well, I didn't know what it was at first, but now because
we've been watching so manyepisodes, I thought it was going
to be the other high heeled shoefrom the pair of shoes from the
women's prison episode. Oh.Because we only saw one of those
shoes.

Sarah (12:13):
And it would be a true crime paraphernalia kind of
thing, which could be valuable.Right?

Mark (12:19):
Mhmm.

Sarah (12:20):
So I thought two things. One, it couldn't be the same
thing in in both senses. So Ithought the the thing that was
in the box when she took it tothe antiques roadshow was gonna
be different than the thing inthe box at the end when it's a
raffle.

Mark (12:33):
Yes.

Sarah (12:34):
So I thought

Mark (12:35):
Kristen wins by the way. We're a spoiler puck.

Sarah (12:37):
Yeah. It wouldn't it wouldn't be her ex husband's
head. All I could think of wasthat it would be Gwyneth
Paltrow's head like in sevenlike what's in the box? So you'd
open it and there'd be a head inthere,

Mark (12:49):
but That's better than putting a hole in the box.

Sarah (12:51):
Maybe not a yeah. First step one, you cut a hole in the
box. Yeah. SNL reference there.And then when Kristen gets it,
I'm like, So now it's gotta besomething different than what
she took on the roadshow becausepeople would have seen what it
was when they opened it on theroadshow to give her an
estimate.
Right? So she would have swappedit out. So when Kristen opens
the box in the pub at the endhaving won the raffle, I think

(13:15):
what should pop out is a figureof Ray dressed like a pigeon
holding a pizza, and it wouldhave been an ad for Porky Pigeon
Pizza

Mark (13:23):
That would have been perfect.

Sarah (13:24):
The whole time. That's what I thought.

Mark (13:26):
That would have been perfect and very Ray and Trudy.

Sarah (13:29):
Oh, totally. People would have paid $10 to to be
advertised to. They would haveloved that.

Mark (13:34):
So our fans at home who are keeping count, we're at
three businesses for Ray andTrudy right now.

Sarah (13:41):
They have the frog and cheetah, the snake and tiger,
and porky pigeon pizza.

Mark (13:46):
Yes. Yeah. Okay.

Sarah (13:48):
And Ray's side hustle as a bootlegger. Yes. The party
special.

Mark (13:53):
The party special.

Sarah (13:54):
Which is pizza and two bottles of wine for a hundred
dollars. That's pricey.

Mark (13:58):
No they got more than a bottle of wine. Think they got a
couple of bottles.

Sarah (14:03):
I thought it was two. Maybe one of them is booze.
Maybe. But still I guess ifyou're selling off license
you're running a risk. Yep.
You got a charge.

Mark (14:10):
You got a premium.

Sarah (14:11):
And he delivers in that three wheeled truck which is
adorable.

Mark (14:14):
That three wheeled truck, I wanted more of the three
wheeled truck. I was like, whyis there not more coverage of
the three wheeled truck?

Sarah (14:21):
We also have Jules back and she's got a new boyfriend,
Lord Ashbury.

Mark (14:25):
Yes. Who is wants to sell his vinkel balm. Now he doesn't
wanna appear on camera, which isimmediately you're like, oh,
susamune, susamune.

Sarah (14:35):
Everything about him is sus from the very beginning.
First of all, why does he likeJules?

Mark (14:41):
I

Sarah (14:42):
If he's normal.

Mark (14:43):
Because Jules is rich. That's why he likes

Sarah (14:45):
Jules. She's rich because her husbands keep dying.

Mark (14:48):
But apparently she likes he likes she likes him because,
woah, he's got the stamina.

Sarah (14:54):
Well, they gotta have something other than sex, sex,
sex.

Mark (14:57):
Sex, sex, sex.

Sarah (14:58):
So they built schools in Papua New Guinea.

Mark (15:00):
No, they don't. No,

Sarah (15:01):
they just

Mark (15:01):
takes all that money. There's also a reference to a
blubber spoon here, which is areal thing,

Sarah (15:08):
isn't it? Yeah. Is. Yeah. It's it's giant.
Like a whaling thing. What doyou think of Brian? Brian Bottom
or Baton?

Mark (15:16):
I think Brian Bottom is an excellent actor and a fantastic
dead body and a sleaze as ahuman being.

Sarah (15:23):
Man, is he a good dead body.

Mark (15:25):
He is a fantastic

Sarah (15:26):
Tongue out, eyes open, actually in the chair. Just keep
your tongue out of your mouthfor as long as he does.

Mark (15:35):
Yeah. You don't have to do it. You can you can still
breathe. You can have your eyesblink normally. Just keep your
tongue out of your mouth.

Sarah (15:43):
And don't move it.

Mark (15:44):
Yeah. It's hard. He is a master.

Sarah (15:47):
They must have been like misting his mouth in between
shots because that would get sodry.

Mark (15:54):
I guess.

Sarah (15:55):
I'd be like, give me a cup that I can stick my tongue
in. Okay.

Mark (15:59):
I'm good now. Frodo wants an autograph. I'm

Sarah (16:04):
sorry I had to jump around, but I love when Sims
pulls up to the coffee cart andturns the siren on. Yes. And
Frodo's like, you can see hisbrain go, should I run? But this
is my business and I've donenothing wrong, but should I run?
Maybe I should run.
I don't need to run, but maybe Ishould. Like, his little gears
are just

Mark (16:23):
Frodo makes reference to his trauma. Not

Sarah (16:30):
funny, Sims.

Mark (16:31):
Because he's had a lot. He's been through a lot. Then
there's a relic that is kind ofa

Sarah (16:39):
It's a Maori

Mark (16:40):
It's a real thing Yeah. That is a red herring in the
episode.

Sarah (16:44):
Right. It's called a hei tiki. Yep. And it's a Maori
relic. It's an ancestral thing.
It should be treated withrespect. A guy brings it in
because he was digging a posthole and found it. Yep. And DK,
who is the cinema photographer,videographer Yep. On the team is
Maori and does not appreciatethat disrespect of his culture.

(17:06):
Yep. He's immediately set off.And of course, Brian, because
he's a jerk in, out, sideways,is like, what's your problem?

Mark (17:14):
I think it's worth like $50.

Sarah (17:16):
You know, I mean just whatever he can say to make DK
mad. Yeah. Because that's who heis.

Mark (17:21):
Next week, we're in Riverstone. Of course you are.

Sarah (17:25):
That's like five minutes away.

Mark (17:27):
Five minutes away. Okay. I wanna be clear. This is not how
television works. No.
They don't like, the talent doesnot travel with the crew in no
matter what kind of show you'redealing with.

Sarah (17:41):
I don't know about that. Second of all It could happen.

Mark (17:44):
The crew shows up, sets up, the talent arrives, does
their thing, and then the talentleaves, and then the crew
leaves. It's it's not like let'sget the band back together
thing.

Sarah (17:55):
I think it depends on whether you're really touring
like this and filming indifferent locations. And there's
no efficient way to get talentto that spot. So they may as
well just travel with the crew.But like real antiques roadshow,
yes. There is a gigantic crewthat goes way in advance and
sets everything up, and theappraisers come the day before.

(18:19):
You know the appraisers onAntiques Roadshow don't get
paid?

Mark (18:21):
No, they don't.

Sarah (18:22):
They have to pay their own travel and everything.
Everything. They're just doingit for publicity.

Mark (18:27):
And unlike this rigmarole, they cannot have any dealings
with the people.

Sarah (18:33):
No. No. They can't offer to buy something or

Mark (18:36):
No.

Sarah (18:36):
They're I think they're allowed to advise them or
represent them a certain periodof time after the show.

Mark (18:44):
But it makes sense because they could totally take
advantage of this situation.

Sarah (18:48):
Absolutely. Absolutely. We have a new hotel. Yes. Or
motel.

Mark (18:53):
It's a motel

Sarah (18:54):
where they're staying familiar face is running it.

Mark (18:56):
They take everything

Sarah (18:58):
They they book the

Mark (18:59):
whole place. The whole place and the familiar face used
to run the Tidal View Lodge. Youremember what episode that's
from?

Sarah (19:07):
It's the one where the bride dies.

Mark (19:08):
Yes. That's the bride episode.

Sarah (19:10):
But he was going out of business anyway. Yes. He must
have salvaged enough to buy anew motel. Yes. Not a new one.
New to him. Yes. Those key fobs.

Mark (19:19):
Those key fobs. I wish I had one of those key fobs Cause
it would be fantastic.

Sarah (19:26):
Oh, you want one of the ones from the show? Yes. Oh,
okay. What's the name of itthough?

Mark (19:31):
I don't know.

Sarah (19:32):
It doesn't it doesn't say anything?

Mark (19:34):
Think it just says motel no vacancy.

Sarah (19:36):
Sign does. Has two little pine palm trees on it.

Mark (19:39):
Yeah.

Sarah (19:40):
Marcus is wanting to go under the radar because of his
bad experiences. Okay. It's just

Mark (19:45):
He's a bit traumatized.

Sarah (19:46):
It's just motel. Yes. Okay? Just stay at the motel.
Motel.
You could call it the whitemotel.

Mark (19:52):
Maybe. And they find dead Brian doing and he's in a garage
chair Yes. Which Sims knowseverything about.

Sarah (20:02):
You would. Yes. You know, seventeenth century Spanish
torture device Yes. Andexecution device, which we've
talked about before, by the way.

Mark (20:11):
Yes, we have.

Sarah (20:12):
But Brian has purchased it. Now what does he think he's
gonna do with it?

Mark (20:16):
How is he gonna trap like, how is he gonna transport in

Sarah (20:19):
the van.

Mark (20:20):
It's not gonna fit in the van.

Sarah (20:21):
Oh, know. Do do you remember National Lampoon's
Family Vacation?

Mark (20:25):
Oh, beyond the top.

Sarah (20:26):
Where they strap grandma to the top

Mark (20:28):
the lawn Well, just strap Brian and the garage chair on
top of the car.

Sarah (20:33):
Well, he never pays for it anyway, so Sydney gets it
back eventually, I guess. Wheredid Sydney get it?

Mark (20:40):
I don't I don't know.

Sarah (20:41):
It's a seventeenth century Spanish torture device.
How is it in New Zealand? How isit in his shop? Should he even
be selling it? Do you think heshould be allowed to

Mark (20:51):
sell No. I don't think he should. Certainly not for 900
Australian New Zealand dollars.

Sarah (20:56):
No. He's trying to sell it for $3. Yeah. And he doesn't
sell it for 900 because he nevergets it. So Would you deliver
that before you got the money?
No. Oh hell no.

Mark (21:05):
No. No. And the name of the

Sarah (21:08):
antique shop is Just plain interesting.

Mark (21:12):
Antiques, curious, strange and wondrous things. Oh, but
there is a wondrous thing forthis shop.

Sarah (21:19):
There's another one across the street. Yes. There's
a sign that says see our othershop across the street.

Mark (21:25):
At 99 Parrs Road. And what I was absolutely stunned by.

Sarah (21:30):
As soon as I saw the front of this shop, I'm like,
skip it, Mark's all over this.Because there's signs everywhere
on the front of the shop. Yes.There's even three-dimensional,
like, little putter putt planeson top of the awning with little
dudes in them.

Mark (21:47):
Yep. But they have a new sign because this antique shop
exists. Oh. And is named JustPlain Antiques. You can go here.

Sarah (21:59):
Were they named that before the show?

Mark (22:02):
I don't know because they have a newer sign. They've had
an influx of cash it looks likeMhmm. Than the old sign. Mhmm.
So I bet you they spent somemoney and got the new sign.

Sarah (22:13):
Or maybe that's when they opened the second location
across the street.

Mark (22:17):
Yes. So this is

Sarah (22:18):
When you have so much crap in your antique shop that
you need a second location, theanswer is not to open a second
location, it's to sell thestuff.

Mark (22:26):
Yes. So this is on the on the Western Side Of Auckland.

Sarah (22:32):
Okay.

Mark (22:32):
Right? It's part of the city and it's part of they've
obviously film out of Auckland.Mhmm. So

Sarah (22:39):
Do you think the inside and the outside are the same
location?

Mark (22:41):
I do. Because it's hard to like

Sarah (22:45):
That's a hard set to recreate. That's a

Mark (22:47):
hard set

Sarah (22:47):
to recreate. There's a lot of junk in there.

Mark (22:49):
Like it's much easier to do a bookstore.

Sarah (22:51):
Yeah. Yeah. Behind the counter where Sydney stands to
sell stuff is a big sign thatsays, thief. Who is he? Yes.
Wednesday, September 25. Somesome person stole something.
Somebody. He's got stills fromthe CCTV. He does.
I just wanted get a good shot ofthem. At some point, they never

(23:12):
show them. No. Because I wasreally hoping that it was Frodo.
No.
Or somebody who looks like I

Mark (23:18):
tried to see who it was, but I couldn't

Sarah (23:20):
Wearing a shirt that says not Frodo?

Mark (23:26):
That that was absolutely brilliant and outside of the
real shop it has a sign thatsays steampunk gates that they
sell.

Sarah (23:36):
What does that mean? Gates that look like steampunky
stuff. Like like for fences?

Mark (23:41):
Yeah. Oh, Okay. It's very strange.

Sarah (23:44):
They've got a pretty wide array of the typical kind of
antiques and like junk shopantiques. Not like high end you
know antiques like don't touchit antiques. But there's also a
shot when Sims and Mike aretalking to Sydney behind the
counter and the camera is turnedthe opposite direction to look
at Mike. Behind him is a displayof fantasy axes.

Mark (24:09):
That it's like They look like

Sarah (24:11):
Lord of the Rings

Mark (24:11):
It's like the Lord of the Rings section. There's a blue
sign, but you can't read what itsays.

Sarah (24:17):
But it's weird because they're not antique obviously.

Mark (24:19):
No. No. They're clearly not. But there are some weird
things in this store.

Sarah (24:24):
I just wanted one of those axes to play a part. I
just wanted somebody to pick oneup.

Mark (24:29):
Kushla shows up and goes to the station and I have a note
that says, should you really beable to see the murder board
from the front desk?

Sarah (24:38):
No. The answer is no. I thought the same thing. All she
has to do is lean in a littlebit and she's got a clear shot
of the murder murder board.She'd be stupid not to like
bring her camera and go.

Mark (24:49):
And we have a flashback and this is the first appearance
of the crew where they ate thenight before. Porky Pigeon
Pizzeria. Which is Porky PigeonPizzeria.

Sarah (25:00):
Ray is the Porky Pigeon.

Mark (25:02):
Ray is the Porky Pigeon and appears the first appearance
of the Porky Pigeon costumewhich is not discussed

Sarah (25:11):
Nope. At all.

Mark (25:12):
Nope. Sims goes to talk to him. I think it's Sims Goes to
talk to him. He's in the porkypig pig

Sarah (25:19):
pig He's got head under his arm.

Mark (25:20):
He's got the head under his arm and nobody says nothing.

Sarah (25:24):
I can only assume that that was originally a longer
scene and there had to been acouple of jokes. Or when she
came back to the station, therehad to have been a couple of
jokes and they got cut.

Mark (25:34):
And actually because come

Sarah (25:35):
on, you have to talk about it.

Mark (25:37):
Do you know the full name of the Porky Pigeon? No. The
full name of the Porky Pigeon isGourmet Ray's Porky Pigeon
Pizzeria. That's what appears onthe outside of the building.

Sarah (25:51):
Why is it a porky pigeon?

Mark (25:53):
I do not know. That is the worst name. You don't put pigeon
on pizza. No. You don't wantpigeons near your food.

Sarah (26:00):
No. You don't He's not delivering by drones. It's just
think he I think he found themascot outfit cheap and then
decided to name the pizzarestaurant Porky Pigeon so he
could wear it.

Mark (26:14):
I think that is a very Ray thing to do.

Sarah (26:17):
And I would be very disappointed if the head of the
pigeon doesn't have a chef's haton it.

Mark (26:22):
Well, we see this outfit again. Not next episode, but I
think the one after the the bankrobbery episode. Mhmm. Because
remember one of the individualsinvolved in the bank robbery, I
believe is a delivery person forPorky Pig

Sarah (26:38):
That's right. Pigeon. But we haven't talked about the
weirdest character, BuzzMcCartley.

Mark (26:43):
So Buzz is a fantastic character I wish we saw more of.
Because he's got such a funoutlook on life.

Sarah (26:52):
Well, you don't know that initially though. He seems
really dark and creepyinitially. Initially, yes. But
then His business is calledFully Buzzed.

Mark (27:05):
So Buzz Lightyear's thing is that

Sarah (27:08):
His name is not Buzz Lightyear. It's Buzz McLarty.

Mark (27:12):
So his thing is that he has purchased or his mother has
purchased a number of spoons.

Sarah (27:18):
No, Mark. She has collected 47 spoons from small
cities all around New Zealand.It's her life's work.

Mark (27:28):
I'm laughing.

Sarah (27:29):
Because your mother had a spoon collection.

Mark (27:31):
That I contributed to.

Sarah (27:34):
My grandmother had a spoon collection.

Mark (27:36):
So when I went to England the first time on my own, this
would be '94.

Sarah (27:43):
Mhmm. When I was there too. Yes. But we weren't
together. No.
Because I didn't know you.

Mark (27:47):
No. Every place I stopped I bought a spoon for my mother.

Sarah (27:51):
Yep. My grandma was the same way. Everywhere she went
she bought a spoon. Time anybodyelse went somewhere they bought
her a spoon. But I got She hadfive racks like that.
Yeah. One that he's carryingaround. But God knows what

Mark (28:02):
you're
supposed
to do

Sarah (28:02):
I

Mark (28:02):
also got her spoons from Moscow and Leningrad in the
eighties. When I went to TheSoviet Union. His love of his
mom

Sarah (28:12):
and He loves her so much he carries her with him.

Mark (28:15):
And the spoons made me there there's a there's a spot
in my heart for

Sarah (28:20):
Buzz Lightyear. Because he's living in his van Yes. With
his little altar to his mom.

Mark (28:26):
But he's also like, you know what? I go surfing when the
surfing's surfing. Yep. I workwhen I work.

Sarah (28:34):
Well and that kind of philosophy leads you to live in
a van. But if you're happy thenokay.

Mark (28:39):
I guess and you're fixing lights in the middle of the
night.

Sarah (28:41):
He's got a mullet.

Mark (28:42):
He does.

Sarah (28:43):
A mangy mullet. He does have a Kind of a ragtag surf
outfit. He does. But he seemshappy.

Mark (28:50):
He does.

Sarah (28:50):
And he's honest. He does he tells the truth.

Mark (28:53):
He absolutely tells the truth.

Sarah (28:55):
How we've not seen him before, I don't know.

Mark (28:57):
I wish we saw more of him.

Sarah (28:59):
I wish we didn't see so much of Kushla. She gets on my
nerves.

Mark (29:02):
She

Sarah (29:02):
is She's the worst stereotype of a local
journalist.

Mark (29:06):
She is indeed. So we also and he is the one who says the
clown car was there delivering

Sarah (29:12):
Yeah. The three wheeled truck

Mark (29:14):
that the pizza and Lord Ashbury was So now we're like,
oh, we need to go to the bighouse.

Sarah (29:23):
Jules' place.

Mark (29:24):
Do you want to see the Winklebrunn?

Sarah (29:26):
Do you want to see my Winklebrunn? He's so clearly not
who he says he is.

Mark (29:30):
No. No. It can't just be sex sex sex all the time. We met
in a resort overseas. I'm like,oh my gosh.

Sarah (29:39):
You are so getting taken for a ride, Jules. She always
falls for the wrong guy.

Mark (29:44):
Yes. And so we have him doing the thing that I hate men
do where they're like, oh, know,Kiwi women. And Mike's like,
you're awful.

Sarah (29:55):
Yeah.

Mark (29:55):
And I'm gonna bring you down.

Sarah (29:57):
Yeah. I love your women. Yuck.

Mark (30:00):
Right after that is where we see the outside of Ray
Gourmet Ray's Porky PigeonPizzeria. Remember, the full

Sarah (30:08):
name. Mhmm.

Mark (30:09):
Which due to the place next door, I found where they
filmed this. Of course you did.It's actually Zach's Pizzeria.

Sarah (30:21):
Well, is now.

Mark (30:22):
Yes. So I'm assuming that they filmed on this location
because it had pizza oven

Sarah (30:30):
Oh yeah. At the counter

Mark (30:32):
and and

Sarah (30:33):
The red and white checked tablecloths. You have to have
those. Yes. They're arequirement.

Mark (30:38):
So so Zach's became Gourmet Ray's, but the place
next door that I wanna shout outis Phoenix Beauty Therapy. I
would not have found thisrestaurant if it wasn't for free
Phoenix Beauty Therapy.

Sarah (30:53):
Thanks, Phoenix Beauty Therapy.

Mark (30:54):
There there is only one Phoenix Beauty Therapy in the
entire world, so I found it.

Sarah (31:00):
Do they burn you to ashes first and bring you back
beautiful?

Mark (31:04):
Of course, again in Auckland. So

Sarah (31:09):
I just I the table that the crew is sitting at in the
restaurant is so claustrophobicand so sitcom y.

Mark (31:17):
And no one else is in the restaurant. Of course not.

Sarah (31:20):
Of course not. But how is Ray running the restaurant and

Mark (31:22):
also doing By

Sarah (31:25):
himself and doing delivery. Which means Trudy is
running two bars by herself.

Mark (31:30):
And doing and doing the mascot stuff.

Sarah (31:33):
Yes. Yes.

Mark (31:35):
No one asked these questions but us.

Sarah (31:37):
They're they're entrepreneurial.

Mark (31:39):
Yes.

Sarah (31:40):
I'll give them that.

Mark (31:41):
So then we get the the rest of the crew involved. The
sound lady, the the director,the producer, all of these
people become involved in thestory. And I, of course, am only
interested in one thing becausethe sound lady's t shirt says
Dingbats record joint. Yeah. Doyou know what Dingbats Record

(32:03):
Joint is?

Sarah (32:05):
Obviously not. It is. Nor does anybody but you.

Mark (32:08):
It is a vinyl bar that is in the art gallery of New
Zealand in Auckland. That'sawesome. It is so far a
fantastic place. I love that tshirt. They have all sorts of
cool stuff that goes on in thereincluding live bands.

Sarah (32:29):
I'd buy you one, but tariffs.

Mark (32:32):
If you were if we ever go to Auckland, we're definitely
going to It's a great name. It'slike that that t shirt's cool.
It's got a astronaut lady on it.Like this is like pushing all my
buttons.

Sarah (32:49):
Well, Zealand's cool.

Mark (32:51):
Yes. Yes it is.

Sarah (32:53):
Places and museums here are like hoity toity cafes with
overpriced dry sandwiches.

Mark (32:58):
Yes.

Sarah (32:58):
They're not fun places like that.

Mark (33:00):
And she gives her files to the direct the producer who then
says, these files are crap.

Sarah (33:07):
Because they're just recordings of Gemma taking a
bath. I don't know why thesepeople choose to drink and then
do their rushes. Like, do thework first, then drink and go to
bed. Yeah. Don't drink and thengo and try to do initial edits
or transfer files or whatever.
It's just not good practice.Though I think at work we have

(33:31):
the same sound recorder that shehas.

Mark (33:34):
So that sound recorder is a Sound Devices six eighty
eight. It is a expensive soundrecorder.

Sarah (33:41):
Mhmm.

Mark (33:41):
They use real cameras and real sound recorders. Mhmm. I
got that from the single framethat shows And

Sarah (33:49):
a real clapper.

Mark (33:50):
Yep. They do indeed. And there's nothing on that clapper
that shouldn't be on their eyecheck.

Sarah (33:55):
I figured as much so I didn't bother.

Mark (33:58):
So the police get involved with Earl, Lord Earl, early
Lord. They call the lawyer andwho shows up?

Sarah (34:09):
Of course Jules will call Buchanan.

Mark (34:12):
Because we've got history.

Sarah (34:15):
She should just stick with Buchanan. He's the only
normal guy she's ever had afling with. Like

Mark (34:21):
Oh my gosh.

Sarah (34:22):
He's a normal guy.

Mark (34:24):
Wow. I can't believe he said, well, we have history.

Sarah (34:28):
Yeah. Context is important because he doesn't
want to get back to her youknow.

Mark (34:33):
But he's completely amazed because it's a lord and an Earl
whatever it is.

Sarah (34:38):
Pims and all that So Ashbury's pulling this off
because his real name is Earl.Earl. His first name is Earl.

Mark (34:46):
Yes. Because that's what appears on his passport which
there is a problem of when weget to the passport.

Sarah (34:53):
I have not met many men whose first name is Earl but the
ones I have met would have neverbeen able to pass themselves off
as any kind of royalty becauseoveralls and royalty don't go
together. It's not veryconvincing. You gotta wear shoes
if you're royalty. No offense toEarls out there. But there's not

(35:14):
a whole lot of dudes namedViscount No.
Who are pulling that off No. Youknow, as a first name.

Mark (35:19):
No. It's a fun little thing they play around with. And
we find out that the sounddevice was recording, as you
mentioned, Jemma taking a bathbut it also records the Earl
leaving.

Sarah (35:31):
Mhmm.

Mark (35:32):
So he's out of the frame. Mhmm. But as he's leaving, do
you know what happens?

Sarah (35:37):
I don't.

Mark (35:38):
Okay. As he's leaving, they come across a newspaper.

Sarah (35:44):
Oh, yeah. Yeah. As he's leaving the police station you
mean, not leaving Brian's room.

Mark (35:50):
Yes. Oh boy. This newspaper is a gem amongst gem.

Sarah (35:53):
It's the one with Kushla's lead story with the
earl

Mark (35:56):
holding his hand No. No. No. Kushla does not write this
story.

Sarah (36:00):
But it's the but that's her photograph

Mark (36:02):
on the front. Yeah. Was her photograph. Okay. It's got

Sarah (36:05):
But she doesn't run it's not her byline even though it's
her photo?

Mark (36:08):
Oh. No. No. Oh. There's a there's a rabbit hole here.

Sarah (36:13):
Okay.

Mark (36:13):
First of all, the Brokenwood Courier, which I
quote, Brokenwood's best, mostbeautiful, most wanted
newspaper.

Sarah (36:22):
That's a lot. It's the only newspaper.

Mark (36:26):
Yeah. The headline is, and they do this so perfectly,
because you see this newspaperincredibly briefly.

Sarah (36:34):
Mhmm.

Mark (36:35):
The the headline is, Oh, Lordy, which is in italics, Earl
Anthony Ashbury under suspicion.So if if you look really fast,
you see Lord Earl Anthony. Yeah.But that's not what he is. No.
The headline talks about himbeing brought in and and there's

(36:59):
a little bit about him being atthe suspicion.

Sarah (37:05):
And the fourteenth Earl of Ashburi or something.

Mark (37:07):
Yeah. So the last line of this headline is

Sarah (37:13):
The last line of the article?

Mark (37:14):
No. It's just like a tiny subhead Okay. Right? Above the
picture. Mike looks so pissed inthe picture.
It says, this news is brought toyou by Fact Fellet Stander of
TBC, which is the BrokenwoodCarrier, in the fabulous

(37:36):
weather. Ah, the beautiful smellof spring. Bam.

Sarah (37:46):
Faxful Philisander is the Fak,

Mark (37:50):
f a c k. Okay. Falexander. Okay. They're

Sarah (37:57):
goofing on you.

Mark (37:57):
Wow. I could not believe that when I saw that. I was
like, oh, yeah, baby. I'mfollowing

Sarah (38:04):
you now. I got you. I'm I'm I'm seeing you. You're seen.
You're seen.

Mark (38:09):
Yep. You're seen.

Sarah (38:10):
We haven't even talked about Jenny. No. The cohost. No.
The killer.

Mark (38:14):
The killer? But there's so much to talk about in this
episode because this is a greatepisode because you completely
forget about her.

Sarah (38:26):
Yep.

Mark (38:26):
And then you're like, oh, wait a minute, she did it.

Sarah (38:29):
Yeah. Well, because she's so put together and polished and
smiling all the time and she'svery busy and she's pretty and
whatever.

Mark (38:37):
Well, was a weather girl that obviously Frodo

Sarah (38:39):
had a thing for.

Mark (38:40):
Had a thing for.

Sarah (38:42):
But her alibi is that she's online with her boyfriend
watching a zombie movietogether. Yes. Because she's on
the road a lot and this givesthem quality time. Yes. There's
a lot of allusions to maybe theyweren't just watching the movie.
Glenn. But they were clearly Idon't I don't know how you could
feel romantic while watchingthat movie, but apparently they
did.

Mark (39:02):
Well, I bet you a young filmmaker could feel romantic
and a young actor could feelromantic about it.

Sarah (39:09):
Why do you say that?

Mark (39:12):
Well, the people in the knowledge would recognize that
movie immediately as Brain Dead.

Sarah (39:19):
Mhmm.

Mark (39:20):
Which is a New Zealand comedy horror movie.

Sarah (39:25):
From the early nineties. Right?

Mark (39:26):
Directed by a very young Peter Jackson, his first movie
and starring a very young TimBaum.

Sarah (39:35):
Who

Mark (39:35):
is? The writer of this episode.

Sarah (39:38):
Yes.

Mark (39:39):
Yes. That everybody in New Zealand went to see. It was
incredibly popular.

Sarah (39:46):
So when you're watching the clips of the movie while you
watch this episode, the guy whopicks up the lawn mower and
starts mowing down zombies

Mark (39:55):
That is Timbal.

Sarah (39:56):
Wrote this episode. Yeah. It's a small world and those
people get around.

Mark (40:01):
Yep. That's just fantastic.

Sarah (40:04):
And it's so funny that it's playing on her laptop while
she kills Brian. Yep. You knowand Bryce is sitting there going
like, oh, oh, and there'ssplatters and you know,
meanwhile, she's killingsomebody. Sorry, Glenn, not
Bryce.

Mark (40:21):
Glenn. Yes. So then they Mike is on the trail of the Earl
and goes to the bank and hefinds out everything he know
needs to know. That they'retrying to flog the painting to
use it as collateral on a loanTo build a school. Actually pays

(40:41):
for the Jag.

Sarah (40:43):
Yeah. She's leasing she's leasing the car and she's
mortgaged her house.

Mark (40:47):
And he goes to see the Earl and the Earl just gives him
his passport.

Sarah (40:52):
Yep. Because it's one of many that he has.

Mark (40:55):
But there's an interesting thing on the passport. Okay. His
date of birth is listed as theMay 6

Sarah (41:02):
Mhmm. '15. '19 '15?

Mark (41:06):
It could not be 1915.

Sarah (41:08):
It couldn't be 2015.

Mark (41:09):
Exactly. It is the wrongest year of all time.

Sarah (41:13):
Or does he have another painting in the attic like
Dorian Gray? Maybe. I thinkthat's probably what happens
when you use a dead person'sdocumentation to get a new
identity is that you end up witha year of date that year of
birth that is wrong. Maybe.Brian Bottoms driver's license
only has his name on it.

(41:35):
Yes. Nothing else. And a photoof him in his jug ears and
nothing

Mark (41:39):
else. That's all it has.

Sarah (41:42):
Because you're not supposed to look at it that
closely Mark. Fact Fazzle, FactF Alexander. That's your new
name. Fact F Alexander.

Mark (41:51):
Fact F Alexander. Ah, the beautiful smell of spring.

Sarah (41:59):
They just ran out of text.

Mark (42:01):
Oh, they just ran out of text.

Sarah (42:03):
And put in whatever they wanted to.

Mark (42:05):
That is just fantastic.

Sarah (42:07):
So I'm rewatching this episode, and I'm watching the
throwback to because eventuallyJenna has to confess, She did
it. And first of all her hair isimpressive because the hair that
we see her in the most is herreal hair, the actress's real

(42:29):
hair.

Mark (42:29):
Yep.

Sarah (42:30):
Then she pretends to take off a wig that looks like her
real hair. Yes. And underneathit is a wig. Yes. Though we
never see her actually take onewig off the other wig.
No. But it's good. But she's afantastic actress. They're doing
a good job cutting that. Yeah.
So that you don't you get theimpression, but you don't see
it. So anyway, so I'm rewatchingit. And I'm watching her put

(42:53):
Brian in the chair, and put thestrap on his neck, and put the
pin in, and then put the strapacross the top of his arms. Yes.
And I'm thinking, could he reachthat pin?
So I paused this show on mylaptop, and Mo's in the room,
and I'm like, hey Mo, this isour oldest child by three
minutes. Hey Mo, come here. Ifyou were sitting like that,

(43:14):
could you reach it? So now Moand I are in chairs in the
kitchen Doing with our arms, ourelbows pinned down to our side

Mark (43:21):
Doing dinosaur arms.

Sarah (43:22):
Trying to reach our own ears. Like if you can reach your
ear, you could reach it. And Ithink he could.

Mark (43:28):
I think he could.

Sarah (43:29):
I don't think he has time to try. I don't

Mark (43:30):
think he I think he could. I

Sarah (43:33):
think he could reach that pin.

Mark (43:34):
Yeah, I do. If he had a long like, if she had just put
him in the chair and tightenedit

Sarah (43:39):
And the whole time she was off with a in there or
something. Yeah. He probablycould have. But I don't think he
doesn't people like him don'tthink that anybody's gonna pull
something on them like theywould pull on somebody else.
Yes.
So he's not suspicious. And thenshe offers to take the photos
and he's like all about it. Yes.He's smiling. He thinks he looks
Brian, you don't look good.

(44:01):
It makes you look like you got atriple chin going on.

Mark (44:03):
It gets all fetishy then.

Sarah (44:05):
Yeah. He's gross that way.

Mark (44:07):
He is gross that way.

Sarah (44:08):
But I think he could reach it given enough time.

Mark (44:10):
I think so.

Sarah (44:11):
But then she just turns it. And the back of your neck
hurts just thinking about it.And the photos in Gina's lab of
the back of his neck, it's likethere's one photo of just the
dent on the skin and thenthere's another one where it's
clearly cut away to show thedamage. It's like, that would
hurt so much.

Mark (44:30):
And he definitely doesn't have time. His neck breaks.
Yeah. She breaks his neck.There's no satisfying

Sarah (44:37):
Crunch. Crunch. Because there's too much screaming from
the zombie movie.

Mark (44:41):
Maybe, yes.

Sarah (44:42):
But it definitely would like gurgle crunch maybe? Maybe?
He'd go, fat. You fatAlexander's me.

Mark (44:55):
Gina tries to give Mike his her Russian yacht horn and
he doesn't take it.

Sarah (45:00):
No. Oh, there's a He gets rescued just in time. Sorry.
Gotta go.

Mark (45:04):
There is a great joke that we skipped over completely where
Mike is looking into BrianBottoms finances.

Sarah (45:12):
Uh-huh.

Mark (45:13):
And he goes, what is this incredibly large payment?

Sarah (45:17):
Oh, the regular regular deposit. Simpsons says that's
his paycheck.

Mark (45:21):
And Mike goes, and he almost looks at the camera.

Sarah (45:25):
Yeah. That's more than I'm making up.

Mark (45:27):
And he goes, I'm in the wrong business.

Sarah (45:29):
Yeah.

Mark (45:31):
Which is of course incredibly funny because the

Sarah (45:33):
buzz is He is in that business.

Mark (45:34):
He is in that business. And like like they're total
that's why I mean the wholeepisode is like joking on Mike.

Sarah (45:42):
Yeah.

Mark (45:43):
Like the yak horn thing is totally joking on.

Sarah (45:46):
You put it under your husband's pillow because it
keeps him awake and has moreopportunity.

Mark (45:50):
I'm sure you don't have any problems with that. Oh, that
is inappropriate, Gina.

Sarah (45:55):
There's a class you need to take with HR.

Mark (45:57):
Yes. Lord Ashbury disappears. Jules is trying to
find him and Mike thinks aboutlying to her but doesn't.

Sarah (46:06):
Oh he can't. Yeah. But we don't see him tell her. No. But
he does obviously.
Yeah obviously. Because she's inher purple jumpsuit suit at the
end and she's mad. Yeah. She'sgot an axe and stuff. And it's
not one of those fantasy axes,it's a real one.

Mark (46:20):
Yeah. So I understand her destroying the Winklebond Mhmm.
But not the car.

Sarah (46:26):
No. Not the car. She's gotta pay the payments on that
car. Yeah. No matter how longit's leased for, it's on her.

Mark (46:32):
I know.

Sarah (46:32):
Though maybe she's happy to pay it. She doesn't care.

Mark (46:35):
Don't worry. We see Jules again. She's at least one more
episode.

Sarah (46:38):
She's at least one more man in her life who's gonna be
bad.

Mark (46:41):
And this is where Sims wins the mystery box prize.

Sarah (46:45):
Yeah. Because Kushless bought a ticket for her.

Mark (46:47):
Which really should be like coupons at Ray's Gourmet
Pizzeria. Not not not actualmoney.

Sarah (46:55):
No. Coupons. Discount. Discount. Not even free pizza.
Not even free pizza. 20% off forthe next year for one pizza a
month, but not the supreme. No.Like, because Ray's tight. This
is this is why I think that whenshe opens it, it should be like
a purp a da purr.
Yeah. And a little pigeon popsout.

Mark (47:15):
Yeah. Something.

Sarah (47:16):
With an ad for Ray's Pizza.

Mark (47:18):
Instead, it's incredibly scary doll heads that never get
mentioned again.

Sarah (47:22):
There's a Kewpie doll in there. Yeah. There's That's the
only whole doll I saw. The otherones were just heads.

Mark (47:28):
It's weird.

Sarah (47:29):
I'll tell you what's weird. I just happened to catch
a video the other day onYouTube. It was an old Pathe
news clip of a doll productionfactory in The UK. And they were
just casting the heads. Yep.
So they were casting theserubber heads and pulling them
out of the molds and thenpainting the faces on them and

(47:50):
sewing the hair on heads. That'sbe weird. And it's very weird to
see these they pull the dollheads out of the molds with
pliers and they go Yeah. Youknow, out of these molds and
they throw them in a bin andthere's a whole bin of faces. Oh
my gosh.
And then they've got like awhole rack of the winky eyes,
you know? And they have thistool that they jam the eyes into

(48:11):
the face I

Mark (48:13):
know when you do that type of work you

Sarah (48:16):
You don't see it as a doll face Yeah.

Mark (48:18):
Right? But wow, it would've been

Sarah (48:21):
It was weird. I can only imagine. You start working
someplace like that before youget real jaded, you just see
those faces in your sleep. Yep.And Kristen's gonna see them
every time she opens thatcabinet.
Kristen, we're in here.

Mark (48:36):
What we've learned from this episode is Ray and Trudy
will start many many otherbusinesses

Sarah (48:42):
Mhmm.

Mark (48:43):
Including, and this is where our episode series seven
and series 11 crossover. The theplace at the beginning of the
episode, and I love that they dothe callback to the beginning of
the episode is really theinciting incident because Yeah.
A, it's an inciting incident andthat Brian's gonna leave her and

(49:03):
have his own show.

Sarah (49:04):
And he says that just as they're about to film that that

Mark (49:08):
Start of the episode.

Sarah (49:09):
Trailer. The

Mark (49:10):
teacher. The start of the episode. Yeah. Like I I love it
all working together like that.

Sarah (49:15):
But that location, the mill Yes. In Brokenwood Yeah. In
season eleven Is new and Trudy'spub.

Mark (49:22):
New pub for Ray and Trudy where they have live bands.

Sarah (49:26):
Yes. Which leads to all kinds of problems.

Mark (49:29):
And comedy. Yeah. No. They don't have comedy there. No.
They have oh my gosh. They've

Sarah (49:34):
already had the comedy.

Mark (49:35):
But we know we know that they have so many businesses.
But this is the end of Frodo'sbusinesses. He runs the coffee
cart from this point He's

Sarah (49:44):
found his niche.

Mark (49:45):
He's found his niche.

Sarah (49:46):
But there's the frog and cheetah, the snake and tiger,
porky pigeon pizzeria.

Mark (49:51):
And the new pub which is the panther and something.

Sarah (49:55):
I Panther.

Mark (49:55):
Which is series 11.

Sarah (49:57):
Panther and tadpoles. I don't know what

Mark (49:59):
it is. Maybe we'll learn more at the bank robbery episode
because we definitely see moreof the porky pigeon at that
point in time. Yes. So whathappens after the credits? Jules
finds another man.

Sarah (50:12):
Maybe she swears off men for a little bit longer this
time.

Mark (50:17):
Maybe.

Sarah (50:18):
Maybe.

Mark (50:19):
I hope that Mike calls some international police
organization to get after Earl.

Sarah (50:26):
Yeah. Well, because he's he's just taken off with the
money that Jules got fromremortgaging her house.

Mark (50:31):
Yeah. He just took off.

Sarah (50:32):
And she has a huge house. Yeah. So that's a considerable
amount of money.

Mark (50:38):
And

Sarah (50:38):
And he's traveling under a face fake passport and

Mark (50:41):
Yep.

Sarah (50:42):
He's done this before and

Mark (50:43):
Yeah. He's not a very good career criminal since we
immediately knew he was sus.

Sarah (50:49):
Yeah but she didn't. And if there hadn't been a crime
that they were involved in hewould have totally got away with
it for as long as he wanted We

Mark (50:56):
know Kooshla shows up again, we know Ray Pizzeria
shows up again. Buzz Lightyeardoesn't show up again. We wish
he had.

Sarah (51:05):
We don't see Marcus again. No.

Mark (51:07):
I don't think we see Marcus.

Sarah (51:08):
We forgot to mention that Sydney's Antique store, the
plain interesting antique storeis a new antique store for him
because he's the same antiquesdealer who was in earlier
seasons selling taxidermy andantiques and had some of his
taxidermy stolen.

Mark (51:23):
And travel agency don't

Sarah (51:25):
That's right.

Mark (51:26):
And trying to sell Pocahontas outfits too.

Sarah (51:29):
Yeah. The white ferret on Mike's desk is from his store.

Mark (51:31):
The white ferret.

Sarah (51:32):
So this is a new place for him.

Mark (51:33):
This is just plain empty.

Sarah (51:35):
So Sydney's got a new place. Marcus has a new place.

Mark (51:38):
We know.

Sarah (51:39):
Ray and Trudy have a new place.

Mark (51:40):
We we okay. So you and I and the listeners of this
podcast while they listen to thepodcast, I don't believe they
remember anything after ourpodcast is done. So you and I
and like three people on thisshow know all of this stuff.
This is this is like this is thenightmare. Like we get somebody

(52:04):
like Frodo on the show and wego, what do you think about
this?
And they're like, what?

Sarah (52:09):
How many is is why is I'm not in those scenes. I

Mark (52:12):
don't I have no idea.

Sarah (52:14):
We'd almost have to talk to Tim Baum.

Mark (52:15):
I think so.

Sarah (52:16):
And say, okay. How many pubs have Ray and Trudy owned?
Yes. He might know.

Mark (52:22):
So so Tim, if you're listening, please

Sarah (52:25):
You were great in that movie.

Mark (52:26):
You were. I think he was. Yeah. I probably saw that movie
sometime in the nineties.

Sarah (52:31):
And we think it's totally clever that you managed to get
the clips from that movie intothe show into this episode.

Mark (52:36):
Your buddy, mister Jackson.

Sarah (52:38):
If you're nasty.

Mark (52:39):
If you're nasty. Okay.

Sarah (52:43):
It's Peter if you're nasty.

Mark (52:46):
Just when you thought it couldn't get better.

Sarah (52:48):
That's what's in Trudy's box. Yes. It's a little Peter
Jackson

Mark (52:53):
Peter Jackson with the with the lawnmower. Yes.
Brokenwood Mystery season sevenepisode two. We will release
that on the May 26. The Witchesof Brokenwood.

Sarah (53:06):
And we still have minis to come.

Mark (53:07):
We have two more minis to come. I can't believe how much
content we've come out with thismonth and we've really had a lot
of people, like as many peoplelistening to the minis and
asking questions about them aswith the full ones. If you get
stuck on a mini question, pleasejust message us. We'll tell you

(53:30):
the answers right away.

Sarah (53:32):
Oh, yeah. We don't want you to suffer until we get to
season eleven.

Mark (53:35):
Oh, my gosh. Season eleven will

Sarah (53:36):
be But you can also post a message on the subreddit and
just mark it spoiler Yes. Sopeople who haven't seen it

Mark (53:42):
yet know how to read I all the questions on when I post the
minis on the subreddit. So justreply to that there.

Sarah (53:49):
Yeah. But then other people will see it.

Mark (53:51):
Yeah. Just reply to that thread with the spoiler tag.

Sarah (53:54):
Oh, then it'll be hidden.

Mark (53:55):
Then it'll

Sarah (53:55):
be Unless people click on it. Yeah. They so they won't
accidentally see the answer.Yes. It's fun.
Alright.

Mark (54:02):
So so that is the Winklebronn and the The Garat.
The Garat and the Winklebronn.

Sarah (54:09):
So next week season seven episode two.

Mark (54:13):
The Witches of

Sarah (54:14):
Brokenwood. Until then, bye maniacs.

Mark (54:17):
Bye maniacs. Thanks for joining us on the mystery
maniacs podcast. If you enjoyedour crazy podcast today, don't
miss out on future episodes.Follow us on social media for
updates, beyond the scenescontent, and exclusive sneak
peeks. Subscribe, like, andshare to spread the word.
Bye, maniacs. Bye, maniacs.

Sarah (54:38):
That's cool. I don't know the the name of the next
episode. Okay.

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