Captain Hippo and The Gigantic Forehead | Brokenwood | "Spark to a Flame" | Mystery Maniacs Podcast EP245 - Mystery Maniacs

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Mark (00:00):
Killed a bunch of people in the house, still at large,
and wrote on the doorway, I'llbe back.

Sarah (00:05):
Yeah. I know. Not not not gonna live there. No.

Mark (00:23):
Hey, maniacs.

Sarah (00:25):
Hey, maniacs.

Mark (00:26):
Mystery maniacs is a comedy recap podcast dedicated
to mystery TV. Each week, we diginto an episode of the show
including the murders, theneighbors, the loonies, and
everything else we love. Thisweek, the Brokenwood Mysteries
Spark to Flame. I don't reallyunderstand the cover the title a

(00:47):
little bit, but

Sarah (00:48):
Season eight episode three. Well, there's a bonfire.

Mark (00:51):
I guess. I'm Mark. I'm Sarah.

Sarah (00:54):
This is a spoiler podcast. We're gonna ruin it. If
you haven't seen it, we're gonnatell you who did it, so stop
right now.

Mark (00:59):
If you let your kids play loud music in houses where
people have died, then they canlisten to the podcast.

Sarah (01:07):
Is that is that the criteria?

Mark (01:09):
I guess. Okay. Sarah, we forgot to mention the cups from
two weeks ago. Well, not twoweeks ago, like three months
ago. The giraffe?
Gosh. The summer is over.

Sarah (01:19):
The giraffe cup?

Mark (01:20):
The giraffe cup. The longest drink in town.

Sarah (01:24):
We didn't know what it was, so we asked. Yes. And
people answered.

Mark (01:27):
People answered. It is a brand of milkshake cup that are
used as generic milkshake cupsin New Zealand, apparently
everywhere.

Sarah (01:37):
Now we know. Yep. When you see a giraffe,

Mark (01:39):
you win

Sarah (01:39):
a milkshake.

Mark (01:40):
We also said Dennis Buchanan did nothing else. We
were completely wrong.

Sarah (01:45):
You mean the actor, Sean Cortese?

Mark (01:47):
Yes. He's done lots of things.

Sarah (01:49):
He's done other stuff.

Mark (01:50):
But he's still that guy.

Sarah (01:54):
I wonder if he plays the same character in all the roles
he plays, and he's just reallygood at just being himself.

Mark (02:01):
Maybe. For people who change so dramatically in roles,
it's amazing.

Sarah (02:06):
Mhmm. Before we dive in, two things

Mark (02:08):
Okay.

Sarah (02:09):
In addition to those two correction. One, thank you so
much for all of the greatanniversary notes that we got
for our six year podcastanniversary. They were so kind
and encouraging, and it's justnice to know. There's some folks
out there who have listenedsince the beginning and some
who've started recently but wentall the way back to the start.

Mark (02:31):
Yep. I

Sarah (02:32):
count you in the same bucket.

Mark (02:34):
Absolutely. If

Sarah (02:35):
you've listened to the thousand or so hours of our
voices, you're a special kind ofperson.

Mark (02:41):
Some people asked about plans for the future. The plans
for the future are to keep doingBrokenwood until there's new
Midsommar episodes, which weshould be hearing about soon
ish.

Sarah (02:51):
Well, do you want to make a cake? World's most awkward
social media campaign.

Mark (03:02):
Okay. So the midsummer official campaign, a midsummer
official Instagram and Facebookhave done a campaign for you to
decorate a cake and you can winsome merch.

Sarah (03:12):
For their twenty fifth anniversary.

Mark (03:14):
For their twenty fifth anniversary. We are not
partaking in this.

Sarah (03:17):
No. Okay? But there's a hashtag so we can track it and
see how many people have madecakes.

Mark (03:24):
There are very few people who are partaking with it. Very
few. And none of them arefollowing the directions in so
much that they had to make aspecial explicit directions
post. It

Sarah (03:39):
was like basically, okay, grandma. Here's how you do it.
Okay?

Mark (03:44):
Please bake a cake and make it for us.

Sarah (03:47):
Here's what a cake looks like.

Mark (03:48):
Get it? You want some easy merch? Make some Midsummer cake.

Sarah (03:53):
They claim that you can even draw one. You don't even
have to make one, an actualcake. But they're the ones I've
seen are pretty good. They arepretty good. The people who are
doing it

Mark (04:02):
And if anybody wants to put, you know, like, us on a
cake for Midsommar

Sarah (04:06):
You put the Midsommar logo on the top and put the
mystery maniacs logos around theoutside.

Mark (04:12):
There you go. I don't know.

Sarah (04:15):
Maybe we'll send you a t shirt if you do that And submit
it.

Mark (04:22):
So they're ramping up.

Sarah (04:23):
Can I make a cake that that is really cool, that really
honors midsummer, but the top ofit just says your podcast sucks?

Mark (04:34):
Or I'd rather be watching the mystery maniacs.

Sarah (04:37):
It would have to be sucked. Yes. Because it's past
tense.

Mark (04:41):
Right? Yeah. I don't think we're gonna see that podcast
again. The podcast that I wenton

Sarah (04:48):
Dominated the quiz.

Mark (04:49):
Four times to do trivia.

Sarah (04:52):
That's a nasty thing that we're saying. Okay.

Mark (04:55):
The people who did it worked really hard.

Sarah (04:57):
Oh, yeah. It's nothing against them. No. It was against
the concept behind it. Anyhoo,one more thing, the subreddit
has been popping recently withsome awesome announcements about
graduations, and new grandkids.
Grandbabies. And we love that.Yep. So if you ever hesitate to
post something like that becauseyou think, oh, well, it's not

(05:19):
about a mystery TV show. Maybe Ishouldn't post it.
Post it. Yes. We're a community.

Mark (05:24):
Absolutely.

Sarah (05:25):
I think everybody appreciates hearing that stuff.

Mark (05:27):
We're roughly about two weeks away from the Thursday
Murder Club on Netflix beingreleased. If you haven't read
the book, go read that book. Wewill enjoy it. If you like us
and you like this podcast, youwill enjoy that book.

Sarah (05:41):
Yeah.

Mark (05:41):
And you will enjoy the movie. It has everyone in it.

Sarah (05:44):
We hope so. David Tennant

Mark (05:46):
plays this smarmiest

Sarah (05:48):
Pierce Brosnan. Yes. Alan Merrin.

Mark (05:51):
Pierce Brosnan should get an extra credit for his hair.

Sarah (05:55):
Yeah.

Mark (05:55):
Man, he has some fantastic freaking hair.

Sarah (05:58):
He's always been handsome, but I swear he gets
better as he gets older. I mean,there's gotta be a tipping
point.

Mark (06:04):
Yeah. There has to be.

Sarah (06:05):
He looks like 110 and somebody's gonna mess up the
painting that he's hiding in

Mark (06:09):
the Like, I think Ben Kingsley, who was also in this

Sarah (06:12):
Looks exactly the same

Mark (06:13):
as A he did forty years fantastic actor. I don't think
he was ever on the good lookingside of the line. But he stayed
exactly the same for fortyyears.

Sarah (06:25):
Well, helps when you're completely cue ball bald

Mark (06:28):
Yes.

Sarah (06:29):
When you're like 35.

Mark (06:30):
I suppose. So

Sarah (06:31):
You just stay that way.

Mark (06:33):
Do you think Pierce Brosnan's hair wrestles with
him?

Sarah (06:36):
Like they rough each other up. I don't know. He's a
good looking man. Good actor.

Mark (06:42):
It's gonna be fun.

Sarah (06:43):
You ready to talk

Mark (06:44):
about I don't know how they're gonna do the entire plot
of the show, of the book in twohours. And they have a the
latest trailer, I'm like, theykept that?

Sarah (06:54):
Yeah.

Mark (06:54):
And they kept that?

Sarah (06:55):
They're gonna have to They kept that? Really compact.

Mark (06:57):
It's gonna have to hustle.

Sarah (06:59):
It's gonna hop along. You ready to talk about Spark to a
Flame?

Mark (07:02):
Yes. So originally air date the 07/11/2022. I noticed
that when I was looking in IMDbfor some of these actors that
like this is their latest creditand I'm like because that really
wasn't long ago in times oftelevision. Directed by
Jacqueline Nairn, n a I r n, andwritten by Roy Ward. Now,

(07:28):
Miranda, the lawyer is in thisepisode.
Mhmm. Now, she's in four moreepisodes, though we'll explain
why we don't think she shouldbe. Mhmm. And she writes two of
the episodes, including thetrivia episode in the latest
season.

Sarah (07:42):
Laura Hill is the actress' name.

Mark (07:44):
Yeah. Think she's a pretty good writer if she wrote that
episode.

Sarah (07:47):
Oh, I think so.

Mark (07:48):
Yeah. Yeah. So

Sarah (07:49):
And she's a good actor too.

Mark (07:50):
She's I great think so. Yes. Stupid hedge trimmer.

Sarah (07:53):
Why is that dog named Tiger? I don't

Mark (07:56):
I do not know. But it is the that is the first African
animal related question today.There will be another one.

Sarah (08:05):
Oh. Look at you hinting at stuff. Tigers are are from
India.

Mark (08:11):
Well, they're in Africa. Okay. Are gonna get mail? Maybe

Sarah (08:16):
you should Google it.

Mark (08:17):
Well, excuse me.

Sarah (08:18):
African tiger.

Mark (08:19):
There's no such thing as an African tiger.

Sarah (08:22):
I'm serious. Google it right now.

Mark (08:23):
I'm not

Sarah (08:24):
gonna You can cut

Mark (08:24):
all this. Okay.

Sarah (08:26):
We're funnier when we know the facts.

Mark (08:29):
I'm not cutting any of this. There are no wild tigers
in Africa. Tigers?

Sarah (08:36):
Oh my god. So do you want to tease again?

Mark (08:40):
Put me back on this.

Sarah (08:41):
Large wild animal?

Mark (08:42):
Large wild animal question.

Sarah (08:45):
There you go.

Mark (08:46):
Keeping all of that, I may cut some of the silence.

Sarah (08:49):
I'm patting myself on the back for knowing that there are
no tigers in Africa.

Mark (08:53):
I'm a little worried that my Canadian accent came out when
I said tigers.

Sarah (08:57):
There are penguins in Africa.

Mark (08:59):
Instead of

Sarah (08:59):
tigers. Okay. I just think, you know, if you have a
puppy and it's orange. Yes.Orange and black.
Ginger. Tiger. White? Not somuch.

Mark (09:11):
Not so much.

Sarah (09:12):
Snowball. No. Abominable.

Mark (09:17):
Well, first thing I'm gonna do is get up and go to my
old timey punk t shirtcollection and put it on.

Sarah (09:23):
Well, that's what Wyatt is. Yes. He's vinyl. He's an old
rocker who likes power tools.Like Yep.
That's just Yeah.

Mark (09:32):
He's an old punk rocker. No Husker Du t shirt, I was
hoping, but no Husker Du tshirt. See Dead Kennedys, see
Black Flag, you know, the hits.

Sarah (09:43):
So Petechy Point Yes. Beautiful community

Mark (09:46):
Red Herring Point.

Sarah (09:47):
Of mostly summer homes that New Zealander call New
Zealanders call batches.

Mark (09:53):
So this is common when you live near water and you live in
the city. You have a batch to goto on the weekends.

Sarah (10:00):
You have your your weekend house, the cottage. Yes.
You know why they're calledbatches?

Mark (10:05):
I don't know why they're called batches.

Sarah (10:06):
It's a shortened version of bachelor pad or bachelor
house because they're smallhouses.

Mark (10:12):
Oh, okay.

Sarah (10:12):
And they're kinda minimal.

Mark (10:14):
Okay.

Sarah (10:14):
Because they're just holiday homes, you know? But
it's New Zealand. It's not like,oh, well, that's where we go for
the summer. No. It's nice thereall the time.

Mark (10:22):
It is.

Sarah (10:23):
And you know it's a holiday place because they have
a real estate sign in thebackyard facing the water. Yes.
Cause they know there's as manyboats that go by as

Mark (10:34):
It's cars that go wintertime cause it's November.

Sarah (10:37):
Mhmm. Cause it's Guy Fawkes.

Mark (10:38):
And Aiden's hiding his giant head with his Toque.
Toque.

Sarah (10:43):
That kid's got a forehead for years.

Mark (10:44):
I know.

Sarah (10:45):
Sorry. But you do. It's as wide as it is tall. It's
really kind of a billboard.

Mark (10:50):
So let's go over a couple of things really quick.

Sarah (10:53):
The folks who live at Petiqui Point. Yes. So we've got
Joe and Emma. Yes. SchofieldYes.
Then there is Miranda Temple'sempty house that she's selling
that used to belong to her dad

Mark (11:06):
Yes. Work.

Sarah (11:08):
Then there's Lindley

Mark (11:09):
Yes.

Sarah (11:09):
Who is the victim

Mark (11:10):
Yes.

Sarah (11:11):
And then there is the farriers, Kirk.

Mark (11:14):
No, the Wyatt comes first

Sarah (11:16):
Oh, that's then the farriers. Right. Then Wyatt, the
old rocker, and then thefarriers

Mark (11:20):
Yes.

Sarah (11:20):
Kirk and Stephanie who hate each other.

Mark (11:22):
Yes. And this is a great little episode of here's a
collection of people that allslightly pretend to like each
other but dislike each other,that are all have motive to do
this crime but we need to figureout who's lying and who's not.

Sarah (11:40):
And the only people who don't live there but are
involved is Deb's Docherty andher son Yes. Forehead.

Mark (11:48):
Forehead. Five head. Really, it's a six head.

Sarah (11:51):
Deb's? Debs. You gotta market yourself, I guess, if
you're in real estate. Can wetalk about Lindley's aesthetic?

Mark (11:59):
Okay.

Sarah (12:01):
She's How old do you think she is?

Mark (12:03):
She's an old timey hippie.

Sarah (12:05):
No. I don't think so.

Mark (12:07):
Oh, you don't think so?

Sarah (12:08):
No. I don't. I don't think she's she's not free
spirited at all.

Mark (12:12):
I think she's in her forties.

Sarah (12:14):
That's what I would say.

Mark (12:15):
But I think I think she's She

Sarah (12:17):
dresses like she's 98.

Mark (12:19):
Yeah. She's she's a young fogey for sure.

Sarah (12:23):
The glasses on

Mark (12:24):
And not like our children are young fogeys, which one of
them

Sarah (12:27):
Is definitely.

Mark (12:28):
Is definitely.

Sarah (12:29):
The the weird layers Yep. The granny squares.

Mark (12:34):
Granny squares.

Sarah (12:36):
Yep. So here's what I want to know. So they have the
bonfire for Guy Fawkes, right?

Mark (12:40):
Yes.

Sarah (12:41):
And Linley shows up and quickly leaves because the guy,
the thing that they're going toburn, the effigy that they're
going to burn, Wyatt has madeit, and

Mark (12:48):
it looks like Lindley. Everyone would know walking up
to that. Yeah. It's like hepresents it, and it's like,
where were you sitting twoseconds?

Sarah (12:57):
It was right there the whole time. Yes. Here's my
question. Which came first? Theguy or Lynley's wardrobe?
Do you see what I mean? Yeah.Like, did they dress her to look
like the guy, or did they makethe guy to look like her?

Mark (13:14):
They made the guy to look like her.

Sarah (13:16):
Okay. That is super vindictive crafting on Wyatt's
part then.

Mark (13:19):
Wyatt is super vindictive.

Sarah (13:22):
Because it is recognizably her. Okay. And I
don't put him down as somebodywho's a crafter.

Mark (13:28):
Yep. And so the other thing I noticed is that Wyatt
and Aiden are really the sameperson at different times in
their life. Because Wyatt isthat guy that you say, dude,
don't. Don't take it that far.And he always does.
Yeah. And Aiden is that guywho's in the empty house playing

(13:49):
the the basement. Just despiteher. Just despite her. Yeah.
They're the same person.

Sarah (13:54):
I can see that. Except I think Wyatt probably had some
good times at some point.

Mark (13:58):
I think so. Especially when he was a goblin in all the
Lord of the Rings movies. He wasa named goblin in all the Lord
of the

Sarah (14:07):
Rings movies. Wow.

Mark (14:09):
He he spent a he spent a good ten years

Sarah (14:13):
getting made up. Steven Ur is his name. Yeah. He must
have a good back and kneesbecause the goblins bend.

Mark (14:20):
Yeah. They're crouch. Crouchy. And and I bet he had
they didn't have to change hisvoice all that much either.

Sarah (14:27):
But you were gonna say his face?

Mark (14:29):
No. He's got the long nose and the chin and every dog.

Sarah (14:34):
He didn't even need any prosthetics. It's too bad there
wasn't big forehead characters.Lendley's house is like an old
lady's house. Yes. It's comfy.
She's got a brick fireplace thatshe has painted bright blue.
Yeah. That's a sin.

Mark (14:49):
Don't do that. I'm sorry. No. That's wrong. You shouldn't
paint brick ever.

Sarah (14:54):
I don't think so. You can disagree. People can disagree.
You certainly don't paint itblue. You're never gonna get
that off.
You can never change your mind.

Mark (15:03):
Why does Lelandly have gloves on too? Like, she has
those little half gloves thatyou hate?

Sarah (15:09):
Because she's an old lady

Mark (15:10):
and she's cold. Okay.

Sarah (15:12):
Okay. She has to wear five shirts.

Mark (15:14):
Okay.

Sarah (15:14):
Including ones that she's cut a hole in so she can stick
her thumb through.

Mark (15:19):
This whole thing is an actual excellent writing
exercise in, well, that happenedat the bonfire. The bonfire? Why
has nobody mentioned the bonfireto us before? And then that
comes out.

Sarah (15:32):
Mhmm.

Mark (15:32):
I don't think that interrogations actually happen
like this, but they do indetective shows.

Sarah (15:39):
It's a way of reeling out the story.

Mark (15:42):
Yes.

Sarah (15:43):
But it makes the detectives have to go back to a
suspect or witness to follow-up.And then there's also the, well,
I should have told you this whenI talked to you before, but I'm
here now to tell you Yes. Thing.

Mark (15:57):
You know when they show up at the station, it's going to
come out now.

Sarah (16:01):
Yeah, now they're really willing to talk.

Mark (16:03):
Gina wants to buy the house and it leads me to a
question I have for you. Mhmm.Well, series of questions really
that do not involve largemammalian animals. Gina is
willing to buy the house eventhough there's been a murder in
this house.

Sarah (16:17):
Right. Because she's she's fine with

Mark (16:19):
that. If we're in the market to buy a new house

Sarah (16:22):
Mhmm.

Mark (16:22):
And this murder had been in it, how long after this
murder would you buy the house?

Sarah (16:28):
Okay. Can we stipulate that it's been cleaned up
professionally?

Mark (16:31):
Professionally, Greg Davies has come in

Sarah (16:34):
From the cleaner?

Mark (16:34):
If you have not watched the cleaner, go watch The
Cleaner.

Sarah (16:38):
So funny.

Mark (16:39):
Brilliant show. The c the the last season, season three,
is the best season. Yeah. Itgets better and better. Yeah.
Greg Davies, I think he writesand directs it. Yeah. He does a
really good job.

Sarah (16:52):
And stars in it.

Mark (16:53):
Yep. And Steve Pemberton is fantastically awesome. He's
gone awry. Yes. Okay.
So it's all clean.

Sarah (17:04):
Mhmm.

Mark (17:05):
As if you couldn't tell it happened, but you know about it.

Sarah (17:10):
Okay. Okay. How how long ago Yes. Would it have had to
happen for me to be willing tolive there? Yes.
Last week?

Mark (17:16):
Yeah. Now we're under the stipulation that we live in a
crazy country for many reasons,but one of the craziest reasons
we live in a country is that inCalifornia, if someone has died
in your house, you have to tellpeople in the real estate
listing that someone has died in

Sarah (17:33):
the house. You also have to tell them that it might be
haunted if you think it'shaunted. Yes. But sometimes
that's an upsell.

Mark (17:39):
It is for me because I'd be like, $500,000 cheaper
please. It's haunted. I'm takingit over.

Sarah (17:47):
One one person died there a week ago. It's all cleaned up.
Yeah. No problem.

Mark (17:53):
Okay. Okay.

Sarah (17:54):
No no problem.

Mark (17:55):
Okay. What about multiple murder? No problem?

Sarah (18:00):
How did it happen?

Mark (18:01):
Like dad goes crazy, kills himself and his whole half
family.

Sarah (18:05):
All at once? Yep. It's all cleaned up?

Mark (18:07):
Yeah. All cleaned up.

Sarah (18:08):
See, I'm less likely to buy that house only because I
think there will be looky loos.

Mark (18:13):
Yeah. That's the big problem is looky loos.

Sarah (18:16):
Who wanna come and see, and they'll be gross people.
Yep. Because only gross peoplewould do that.

Mark (18:21):
Yes. What about guy kills a bunch of people, drifters,
prostitutes, puts them in putsthem in the backyard. They dig
up two dozen bodies.

Sarah (18:30):
Do they landscape after? Yes. Is it nice? Yes. That's
okay.

Mark (18:34):
That's okay?

Sarah (18:35):
Yeah. I don't mind that. Okay. Well, I don't mind it
except for the looky loos.

Mark (18:39):
Okay. House full of teenage girls, maniac with a big
drill, kills them all at large.

Sarah (18:48):
Oh, he's still at large?

Mark (18:50):
At large.

Sarah (18:51):
Oh, he might come home. Yeah. You gotta give that house
to me for free. And no lookyloose.

Mark (18:58):
And no looky loos.

Sarah (19:00):
Okay. Now what if so you're like me. You're you're
not gonna let the fact thatsomething bad happened there
bother you.

Mark (19:06):
It's the looky loos that would

Sarah (19:07):
bother me. The looky loos bother me. But how about this
one? How about Norman Batessituation?

Mark (19:13):
Okay.

Sarah (19:14):
Murder happened a long time ago, but the body has been
kept in the house.

Mark (19:17):
Woah. Woah.

Sarah (19:20):
You okay with that? Yeah. As long as it's gone now.

Mark (19:24):
It's gone now. And you

Sarah (19:25):
can't smell it anymore. Yeah.

Mark (19:27):
I don't care.

Sarah (19:29):
In this scenario, I have no problem buying that house.
It's not even her house. Youknow what I mean? Yeah. I think
I would be more upset buying ahouse where I knew a lot of
emotional trauma happened, likean abusive family has lived
there for a long time.
That would bother me more, Ithink.

Mark (19:50):
The plot of Friday the thirteenth, the first one, Woman
kills a bunch of old people, abunch of young kids in the house
because her teenage son wasdrowned by him, and he reappears

Sarah (20:02):
Lucky lose.

Mark (20:02):
At the end of the movie.

Sarah (20:03):
Plus he's undead. He can come back anytime. Okay. No. I'm
not living there.
So no no one there. Can't evengive it to me. Okay. No. He's
he's gonna come back.

Mark (20:09):
Okay. Okay.

Sarah (20:10):
He's gonna want his house.

Mark (20:11):
Because the last one is

Sarah (20:13):
His his mom might come back for

Mark (20:14):
all a bunch of people in the house, still at large, and
wrote on the doorway, I'll beback.

Sarah (20:19):
Yeah. I know. Not not not gonna live there. No. Not gonna
live there.

Mark (20:24):
But, like, people people die in houses all

Sarah (20:26):
the time. Dies of natural causes there. I have no problem
with that. Yeah. For all weknow, somebody died in our
house.
We don't know.

Mark (20:32):
We have no idea.

Sarah (20:33):
Don't no idea. Yep. Could have been this this room could
have been repainted because itwas spattered with blood. We
don't know.

Mark (20:39):
No idea.

Sarah (20:39):
No. Doesn't bother us. Especially if you don't know, it
really doesn't bother you.

Mark (20:43):
Yeah. I don't.

Sarah (20:44):
Whatever. The problem is is after you buy the house

Mark (20:47):
Lucky, lose is the problem, and the I'll be back is
the problem.

Sarah (20:50):
Yeah. Well, after you buy the house and you're happy in it
and you do some renovation andthen you find surprises, that's
a problem.

Mark (20:57):
We should put more surprises when we do
renovations. We are we are wellequipped to do some surprises
for people.

Sarah (21:08):
We've done that already up in the attic because we've
got this weird attic that wrapsaround the Second Floor. And so
when the workmen go up there andthey turn a corner, they don't
know what they're going to see.This is where we store our
skeletons. Our

Mark (21:21):
basement is full of heads.

Sarah (21:23):
It is full of heads. Yeah, I've got no problem with
that. I understand why Gina hasno problem with it. She's a
little pushy about it, but shehas a point when she says, you
can ask questions that I can't.Yes.
But apparently her Google isbroken because I'm sure the
price is up online.

Mark (21:37):
They have really pulled back on Gina.

Sarah (21:40):
Yeah. She's not nearly as like sex pest.

Mark (21:43):
Mom, mom, I got it parked. I had to go tell the boss that
there's somebody outside. Likethat's all that character does.

Sarah (21:51):
Well, know, everybody's got to do something.

Mark (21:54):
Yep.

Sarah (21:54):
What do you make of Lindley's signs? Is she the
worst neighbor ever or is Wyattthe worst neighbor ever?

Mark (22:00):
It seems okay. They are the most fantastic neighbors to
watch if you're not involved.Yeah. Because they're both
passive aggressive and they getmore passive aggressive.

Sarah (22:14):
And only aimed at each other.

Mark (22:16):
Yes.

Sarah (22:16):
You know, he turns the bushes. She puts out a sign that
says real men don't use leafblowers. He uses the leaf
blowers. She puts out a signthat says leaf blowers are the
devil breaking wind, which isthat's a long sign.

Mark (22:29):
It's a long sign. And you know what? Like, okay. I use a
leaf blower. I don't use a gaspowered leaf blower.
And I think Wyatt, as an oldpunk, would probably use battery
operated leaf blower. Andthey're not as loud as you would
think.

Sarah (22:42):
She is so sensitive.

Mark (22:44):
Yeah.

Sarah (22:44):
She's so sensitive that you it's almost like there
should be a reason why she's sosensitive.

Mark (22:50):
Like when Chalmers reads her diary he should come up with
a reason.

Sarah (22:54):
Like she moved there for the peace and quiet because

Mark (22:57):
Because.

Sarah (22:57):
Of something and that's why she's so intolerant. Because
she is really intolerant andreally nosy.

Mark (23:05):
What I wanna know as I've known as I ask these questions,
these probing practicalquestions, What do these people
do for a living? What does Joedo for a living? What does
Lindley do for a living? Whatdoes Wyatt do for a living? What
is Aiden's head side job?
What do these people do for aliving? And Miranda runs her own

(23:29):
law firm Yes. By herself.

Sarah (23:33):
I think we're supposed to think that that was a day that
they were closed, and that's whythere was no one else in the
office.

Mark (23:39):
Okay. Because she needs a person.

Sarah (23:40):
Yeah. There's a desk there for a person.

Mark (23:42):
Okay,

Sarah (23:43):
yes. Yeah, lawyers need a receptionist Yeah. If they have
an office like that. Deb's is areal estate agent.

Mark (23:49):
Yes.

Sarah (23:49):
Emmy is a cleaner and a student. Yes. Aiden is a
student. Miranda's a lawyer. TheFarriers own their own small
publishing company.
How? They publish poetry andother things that no one buys.

Mark (24:03):
I I saw that, and I went, those people could not afford a
summer.

Sarah (24:08):
No. No. Not if that's what you're publishing. No. I
think Joe's retired.

Mark (24:13):
I could see that.

Sarah (24:14):
That's what I'm going with. I think Wyatt's retired.
And I think Lindley's got abackstory that we don't know
about.

Mark (24:20):
I think so.

Sarah (24:20):
I think she's got a settlement. That's what I'm
Maybe. Going Some noise thingSome happened to very disruptive
traumatic thing, and she neededto get away, and she has a
settlement.

Mark (24:36):
This episode had needed Frodo's coffee.

Sarah (24:40):
What? Is he just gonna pull up on the beach?

Mark (24:42):
The Broken Wood Quiet Community Society. What's in
that article is exactly whatChalmers says. He reads it word
for word.

Sarah (24:50):
Well, makes it easy. The house that where Lynley dies
actually belongs to Miranda,

Mark (24:56):
Oh, the sorry. We assume that it belongs to Miranda. Well
It actually doesn't.

Sarah (25:02):
It was her dad's. Yes. And she's selling it, which is
why Deb's is involved. AndLinley dies in that house, not
in her own house. Yes.
Which is next door. Yes. Whichis weird, because they assume
people die in their own houses.

Mark (25:19):
Yeah, why was Lin Lee in the house at all?

Sarah (25:21):
Right, so that's a big question. And then of course who
killed her is a big question.Yes. Miranda and Joe didn't date
when they were younger?

Mark (25:30):
There was a fling.

Sarah (25:33):
Like they were sweethearts. Cause they've known
each other since they were likesix.

Mark (25:37):
Right? I think they probably I think based on what
we know that Miranda is the gay.That Miranda as a young woman
was trying to figure out who shewas, understood societal
pressures, understood that Joe'sa nice guy, and probably felt
close to him, and then went,this is not how I feel about

(25:59):
you, Joe.

Sarah (25:59):
Well, grew up together, though. Yeah. Because he was
around when she got the treasuremap. Right? Yes.
When her ethics professoremeritus dad, who was clearly a
jerk

Mark (26:10):
Yeah. These people don't know how professors emeritus or
ethics work.

Sarah (26:15):
Created a treasure map that he put in a bottle and
placed on the beach for her tofind To teach a lesson. To teach
her a lesson.

Mark (26:22):
No wonder mom left. Lying. There needs to be a no wonder
mom left line.

Sarah (26:27):
It explains a lot about who she is

Mark (26:29):
Yes.

Sarah (26:30):
In the end. Yes. That she thinks some lying is okay and
other lying is not okay. Yes. Ithink she's wrong about which
which is which.

Mark (26:38):
I agree.

Sarah (26:39):
Because obviously some lying is alright.

Mark (26:41):
You tell

Sarah (26:41):
a white lie. You say, I love your new haircut.

Mark (26:44):
Yes. Right? That baby is beautiful.

Sarah (26:46):
Right. Cause you can't undo that.

Mark (26:47):
No. We can't see your forehead.

Sarah (26:49):
You can't send the baby back and get a better one. No.
You know? So you tell him it'snice. But

Mark (26:54):
Maybe a hat.

Sarah (26:56):
On the baby?

Mark (26:56):
Or Aiden's head?

Sarah (26:58):
Imagine him as a baby.

Mark (26:59):
Oh my gosh.

Sarah (27:01):
When bay babies are three quarters forehead anyway, he
would have been five sixth

Mark (27:05):
forehead.

Sarah (27:06):
We're so mean. You guys, here's a little look behind the
curtain. We watch theseepisodes, and we try to find
things that we think we're gonnabe able to joke about. And
sometimes there's just notenough to joke about, and so you
end up making fun of somethingthat you wouldn't normally make
fun of, like some kid poor kid'sgigantic forehead that he
probably hates himself and combshis hair down and bangs all the

(27:30):
time.

Mark (27:30):
This is a fine episode. It's a good mystery. It is.
Until the very end, I wasn'tsure who'd done it. Right.
It's a it's well written. Yeah.There's not a lot of funny.

Sarah (27:41):
No. There's no Lenly's outfits.

Mark (27:44):
There's none of Frodo's Hey,

Sarah (27:47):
forehead. There's no odes.

Mark (27:48):
There's no

Sarah (27:49):
odes. Why did Lenly think that anybody would wanna publish
her journal? Well,

Mark (27:56):
there are a lot of people who like journaling. And there
are a lot of people who like toread other people's journals.

Sarah (28:03):
Nosy people?

Mark (28:04):
No. Like mean,

Sarah (28:09):
Chalmers doesn't say she's actually really quite the
poet. No. Or she wrote somereally insightful essays in
there. No. It's day to dayactivities and her drawings,
which are kind of nice, but likenot publish the journal nice.

Mark (28:27):
So it's weird because I have on more than one occasion
watched sketchbook videos onYouTube where people go through
their sketchbooks either whilethey talk about them or while
they don't talk about them. Theyjust turn the pages.

Sarah (28:42):
Okay.

Mark (28:42):
And I like to see that process.

Sarah (28:45):
Would you buy it? Would you buy a copy of it?

Mark (28:47):
In I the bought sketchbook copies of artists I like, but
only to help me

Sarah (28:54):
They're like famous artists though. Yeah. Like well
known artists. Yeah. Like comiccomic artists and stuff.
Not some old granny who lives onthe beach.

Mark (29:03):
And it needs to have a point.

Sarah (29:05):
Yeah, like a theme. Yeah. Or like, oh, it's a diary of
somebody who lived through theBlitz during World War II.

Mark (29:13):
But they published poetry, so who knows what they
published. Okay.

Sarah (29:18):
I just think it's kind of, I don't know, egotistical to
go, oh, hey. I'm I'm wayinteresting. So here's a copy of
my journal.

Mark (29:26):
Sure I you're gonna wanna don't it was like that. I bet
you it was the husband

Sarah (29:30):
You bet you saying Kyle said, you're insightful,
Lindley. Do you keep a journalwe can publish?

Mark (29:35):
No. He probably saw her working on it.

Sarah (29:37):
That's true. She was sketching

Mark (29:38):
Yeah.

Sarah (29:38):
When they're sitting together on the beach. That's
some mighty fine driftwoodyou're drawing. We should
publish that.

Mark (29:44):
Joe's in the background picking it up.

Sarah (29:47):
Leave that there, Joe. I'm drawing that. Sorry. Sorry.
Turns out it's all aboutWarwick's will.

Mark (29:55):
Yes.

Sarah (29:55):
The dead guy's will, which is now in the bottle.
Which It's really a treasure mapnow.

Mark (30:00):
As a professor of emeritus, he would know that a
lawyer should really see this.Like, there's no reason for him
to suddenly take Miranda out ofthe will.

Sarah (30:13):
Even if he does. Okay. Let's say he decides Miranda's
doing just fine. Joe has been agood friend to me. It'll do him
a lot more good than it will herand she won't care.
Let's go with that, okay? So hisoriginal will, all legal bound
with a cover letter that saysthe will of Warwick Temple,

(30:34):
that's filed with a lawyer. Thenlater, he writes another will,
has two people witness it, andinstead of ensuring that it's
filed with his lawyer, hethinks, I'll be clever. I'll put
this in a bottle in my house.Yeah.
Trusting that Miranda will findit.

Mark (30:52):
Really the episode should be entitled, Why Didn't They Ask
Lindley?

Sarah (30:56):
Why Didn't They Ask Tiger?

Mark (30:58):
Yes.

Sarah (30:59):
Tiger from the very beginning is like, hey, hey
guys, I know what happened. Hey.He's like barking out the
window. Hello. Nobody.
No. And in the end he's just adog toy in the police station.

Mark (31:12):
The look on Now he's

Sarah (31:14):
gonna with Kyle. Kyle adopts him.

Mark (31:16):
Yes. The look of Chalmers and Sims when Mike is like

Sarah (31:20):
I'm just gonna take

Mark (31:21):
him to dog gulag.

Sarah (31:23):
Yeah, the glue factory. If nobody goes to get him in the
next two hours he's a goner. Ohwell. I think it's funny that
they fight over walking him andstuff. No I'll do it.
No I'll do it. Yeah. I'll do it.

Mark (31:36):
They they have to have something for them to do.

Sarah (31:39):
Some some kind of competitive thing for the two of
them.

Mark (31:42):
Okay. Let's get to this right now. What is the theme of
the rebranding of the house?Nautical. Nautical.
That is why the the the paper inthe bottle works?

Sarah (31:54):
Mhmm. And the oars.

Mark (31:56):
They find it. The oars has it has everywhere in that room
except for one place. Did yousee what was beside the
television?

Sarah (32:06):
No. A wee hippopotamus. Are there's a wee hippopotamus?

Mark (32:10):
There is a wee hippopotamus. It's made out of
brass. Probably the mostexpensive thing in the house and
I gotta tell you, a bettermurder weapon.

Sarah (32:19):
Yeah. Really? Seriously, if it's solid. Hippos aren't I
mean, they're aquatic.

Mark (32:26):
Yes. But they're not Nautical.

Sarah (32:28):
They're not at sea very often.

Mark (32:30):
And she took everything out of the house. Yeah. That's
what the thing is.

Sarah (32:35):
Yeah. And she staged it.

Mark (32:37):
And she staged it.

Sarah (32:37):
Down down to

Mark (32:38):
So the last she chose the hippo.

Sarah (32:41):
Debs, come on. Do you think hippos live in the ocean?
Yeah. They ride on the back ofwhales. Duh.
Duh. Hippos were notorious petson ships

Mark (32:56):
for And good it's like, it's got his head in the air.
It's like, happy little hippo.

Sarah (33:01):
Like, hi. I don't belong here. Yeah.

Mark (33:06):
I was like, message in a bottle, sale, or hippo. One of
these things does not look likethey

Sarah (33:15):
are. Somewhere, there's a set dresser who's like, finally,
somebody noticed my hippo. Nowyou have to go back and watch
every episode of Broken Woodagain to see if the hippo is
hidden there somewhere.

Mark (33:27):
No, I've looked.

Sarah (33:32):
There's always a hippo at the crime scene. It's the hippo
from Brokenwood.

Mark (33:37):
It's more likely it was the set dresser going, oh my
gosh, they actually noticed thatI forgot to move the hippo.

Sarah (33:45):
Or I didn't know hippos weren't in the ocean until
later.

Mark (33:49):
There's a sign in the cop shop, a new one. I haven't seen
before. I thought

Sarah (33:54):
that they were in rivers that were a blend of fresh and
salt water, and it would work.Their title.

Mark (34:03):
No one is gonna notice. Honey, no one is gonna notice
the hippo.

Sarah (34:09):
Except those freaks in Indiana.

Mark (34:12):
I'm sure they won't say anything. Name of the episode,
the hippo. Captain

Sarah (34:20):
hippo and the gigantic forehead. Intimate texts.

Mark (34:26):
So this is an aside, but relates to this week.

Sarah (34:30):
Oh, it's an aside? Got Half this isn't an aside?

Mark (34:33):
We got a note this week about a bunch of old episodes.
And I've been trying to listento the episodes to respond to
the questions and things likethat. But we have some episode
names that are crack tacking. Iread I forget which one, but I
read one of the episode namesthat the email refers to, and I

(34:56):
said, there is no way I named anepisode that.

Sarah (34:59):
It's like screaming monkeys and strawberry pie.
What?

Mark (35:04):
I went and looked. I'm like, oh, yeah.

Sarah (35:07):
Oh, yeah. We did that.

Mark (35:08):
What were we talking about? Well, this

Sarah (35:11):
one's Captain Hippo and the gigantic forehead.

Mark (35:14):
Okay. There's a new sign in the cop shop. Did you see it?
No. Okay.
I don't think I've seen itbefore because

Sarah (35:21):
The bracelets one? Yes. Oh, with the handcuffs? Yes.
Yeah.

Mark (35:24):
So it says shoplifting is a crime, free bracelets with
every theft. Why would they havethat in the cop shop?

Sarah (35:31):
They abhor an empty wall.

Mark (35:33):
I guess. Like, I understand.

Sarah (35:36):
I could think it's that guy up Nigel. I think Nigel
decorates downstairs whennobody's looking.

Mark (35:41):
Did you see the sign on the stairs and what it says? No.
Canine unit. Why did they putthe canine people upstairs? That
is a total

Sarah (35:55):
Tiger should have taken off upstairs.

Mark (35:57):
Yeah. It's a total goof that the stairs say canine y and

Sarah (36:00):
then on them. It should just say Nigel's lair.

Mark (36:03):
Nigel's He's up there.

Sarah (36:06):
He controls the entire town.

Mark (36:08):
The dark hippo of Nigel's lair.

Sarah (36:10):
He sits in front of a whole bank of screens and
watches drawings. It's like thatbad guy in that that Nick Frost
movie that we just watched.Getaway. Getaway. Okay.
I'm not recommending this movie,by the way. It is incredibly
different than anything else wecover. It's more like Wicker Man
meets comedy meets

Mark (36:31):
Evil Dead.

Sarah (36:32):
Evil Dead?

Mark (36:32):
There is a lot of blood. A lot.

Sarah (36:35):
But there's a bad guy who sits in front of a whole bank of
monitors and watches what'sgoing on and that's Nigel
upstairs in the cop shop. Y'allknowing Nigel.

Mark (36:46):
Okay. Why are the Ferriers still married? They're not
spending weekends together.

Sarah (36:51):
Yeah. I understand having time to yourself. I get it.
Especially when you worktogether. I understand that.
They clearly cannot stand eachother. And I mostly blame her
because she's a miserable jerk.

Mark (37:04):
She is not good. I at first was like, I don't know.
And then she's like paranoid,and he is like, there is no
reason for her to be paranoid.

Sarah (37:16):
He's not done anything. No. And he's not nasty. He's
kind.

Mark (37:20):
And he likes the dog.

Sarah (37:21):
She's just mean. Yeah. We're not given any reason for
her to be that way. No. Exceptshe is tired of him.
She's

Mark (37:29):
read too much of his poetry.

Sarah (37:32):
Good riddance. I think they're better off apart and he
clearly is happy at the end.Let's let's let's jump to the to
the chase here.

Mark (37:39):
Okay.

Sarah (37:40):
So Debs, not Deb

Mark (37:42):
Deb.

Sarah (37:43):
Not Debbie. Debs killed Linley.

Mark (37:46):
Yes.

Sarah (37:47):
Why? What is her motive?

Mark (37:48):
Her motive is that she has discovered that there's a new
will and that it leaves thecottage to Joe. And that she
feels that this will upset or isunfair to Miranda. So she's
attempting to get rid of thewill when Lindley confronts her.

(38:08):
And Lindley says she's gonna goand tell everybody about the
will and she gets bonk bonked onthe head.

Sarah (38:15):
Then and then Debbs leaves, and then Debbs comes
back to finish the job and goesbonk bonk bonk bonk on

Mark (38:21):
Without the a doubt, Debbs is crazy.

Sarah (38:24):
Yeah.

Mark (38:25):
Is it because of her son's giant forehead?

Sarah (38:28):
She did give birth to him. She's probably traumatized
by that. Possibly.

Mark (38:33):
They like, okay. There is a fine line. I know I think we
probably talked about this withPoirot, maybe a little bit with

Sarah (38:41):
What? Gay crazy? Like

Mark (38:43):
That that there was the the notion of motive with gay
crazy. So either somebody'sgonna find out that you're gay,
that you don't want them

Sarah (38:53):
Or just being gay makes you mentally unstable.

Mark (38:56):
They don't

Sarah (38:57):
That's not

Mark (38:58):
They do a fantastic job of not implying that. No. No. In
fact, their relationship is seenas adult Yep. Raunchy, fun.
Mutual. Mutual.

Sarah (39:09):
Mhmm.

Mark (39:10):
And that's all it is.

Sarah (39:11):
Except Debs is insane.

Mark (39:13):
Debs is the problem.

Sarah (39:15):
Okay. So when And

Mark (39:16):
if we notice, season one season eight episode one, the
Odds boyfriend girlfriend,crazy, killer.

Sarah (39:24):
Mhmm.

Mark (39:25):
Miranda's girlfriend, crazy, killer.

Sarah (39:28):
Mhmm.

Mark (39:29):
The rock musician, girlfriend, crazy, Killer. Oh.
We've had three for three inthis this season.

Sarah (39:37):
The moral of the story is don't get a girlfriend?

Mark (39:40):
Well, the next one's about the guys who play that strange
game in the pub, so I don'tthink they have girlfriends.

Sarah (39:46):
Then maybe the moral of the story is actually know your
girlfriend.

Mark (39:50):
Yes. I would say so.

Sarah (39:52):
Because Miranda and Debs don't know each other that well.
They're early in theirrelationship.

Mark (39:57):
And Miranda says that.

Sarah (39:59):
And Miranda has never given her the questionnaire that
you do after like the tenthdate. The would you kill
somebody if you found out I wascut out of a will?

Mark (40:08):
Question. The question, yes.

Sarah (40:10):
Yeah. Yes? Let's not see each other anymore.

Mark (40:13):
But when does that okay. When does that cross the line to
being okay?

Sarah (40:18):
What, when is it all right to kill somebody because
you're gonna be cut out of awill?

Mark (40:22):
Yeah. If I was being cut out of a will, would you kill
somebody over it?

Sarah (40:27):
Not if you were a lawyer.

Mark (40:29):
Okay.

Sarah (40:29):
Who could definitely go and argue it.

Mark (40:32):
Yes.

Sarah (40:33):
And say, he was old, he didn't know what he was doing.
I'm his next of kin. I'm thedefault. Maybe. There's no
reason given why it shouldn't beme.

Mark (40:43):
And the problem with death

Sarah (40:44):
And Miranda doesn't want the house anyway. It's just a
hassle to her.

Mark (40:48):
And then she shows her true colors because she frames
Joe, basically.

Sarah (40:54):
And

Mark (40:55):
Miranda really is upset by this. It's a good bit of acting
when she finds out that andfigures it out.

Sarah (41:00):
So Deb's is there in the house because she's looking for
the will and she finds it.Right?

Mark (41:07):
Yep. I have in my notes. I'd say I'd stand by you and
tell you, Frencho. And

Sarah (41:14):
Lindley comes in because she's a bossy person and a nosy
person and confronts her andrips it out of her hand

Mark (41:23):
Yeah.

Sarah (41:24):
Like she has any right to have it. No. And says, well,
then it's okay if I just go showthis to Miranda. Yeah. And Deb
should have said, yeah, andwe'll fight it in court.
Yeah. Go ahead.

Mark (41:36):
If Miranda even wanted the house.

Sarah (41:39):
Miranda might have said, that's okay. Joe Joe did a lot
of good and and helped me byhelping my dad. I'm happy for
him to have the house. And thennone of this happened. But Deb's
says

Mark (41:51):
crazy.

Sarah (41:52):
Now I have to kill you.

Mark (41:54):
This is the season of crazy ladies.

Sarah (41:58):
I think that the will was Deb's last straw and probably
what precipitated actuallyfeeling murderous toward Lynley
was her painting that fireplacebecause no real estate agent
could ever No. Get over that.

Mark (42:12):
Wham o. I

Sarah (42:15):
have to kill you.

Mark (42:16):
Also

Sarah (42:16):
For painting the brick.

Mark (42:18):
I didn't notice that Deb is all over that house with her
fingertips.

Sarah (42:23):
Yes. Touching all the things. But she's the real
estate agent, so she can getaway with

Mark (42:27):
But where is that line?

Sarah (42:29):
If there's blood on the fingers, then it's kind of bad.
You can't really say, thathappened at an open house. It
was just a showing. Killedsomebody during the showing. And
then I touched some stuff.
Yep. So, you know, explainable.

Mark (42:43):
Miranda pulls over because she's drank too much and got in
the car. Mhmm. I don't buy that.

Sarah (42:49):
What do you mean?

Mark (42:50):
Like, I think she just drives home slower.

Sarah (42:53):
You don't think she actually pulled over?

Mark (42:55):
No. I think she's pig headed enough that she would be
like, I know I probablyshouldn't drive, but I'm gonna
finish this.

Sarah (43:02):
I don't think so. I think if she'd thought again, she
probably wouldn't have drivenhome. But after the Joe move,
she needed to get away. She feltlike she needed to get distance
from him. I And understand thenrealized she shouldn't have.

Mark (43:18):
I understand that. But she had a perfectly good house right
there.

Sarah (43:22):
We don't know how far away it is.

Mark (43:24):
No. But she

Sarah (43:25):
But, should yeah, she could have gone in her own
house. Right? Yes. But shedoesn't think of it as her
house. So and the hippo's in thebed.
So where are you gonna sleep?Exactly. Always hogs in the bed.

Mark (43:34):
By the way, Mike has a girlfriend.

Sarah (43:37):
No. He has a mysterious voice on the other end of a
phone who texts him and callshim.

Mark (43:43):
It's like they added on to the end of every episode.

Sarah (43:46):
It could be that he's just doing one of those pay as
you go girlfriends. What? It'snot. We know that.

Mark (43:53):
What is a pay as you go girlfriend?

Sarah (43:56):
Well, know, the ones that charge by the hour to talk to
you on the phone. A prostitute?No, because it's only on the
phone. It could be that kind ofsituation. No.
It's Mike doesn't need not,obviously, but if you only have
the information that you have atthis point, all we know is

(44:19):
there's somebody who texts himand calls him or takes his
calls.

Mark (44:22):
But I didn't immediately live to prostitute.

Sarah (44:26):
Could be somebody he met on the Internet.

Mark (44:28):
Could be.

Sarah (44:28):
Who isn't who they say they are. He could be getting
catfished. That's all I'msaying.

Mark (44:31):
Well, I don't think Mike would be catfished.

Sarah (44:35):
He's been married 17 times. He doesn't have a good
track record. I mean, betterthan Deb's, but, know

Mark (44:41):
Yeah. We never hear about Deb's husband.

Sarah (44:44):
Yeah. We do because they're in a custody argument
all the time.

Mark (44:47):
Oh, that's right. That's right.

Sarah (44:48):
So Miranda was willing to lie for Debs knowing that she
was a murderer until it lookedlike Joe was gonna be framed for
the murder. That's where shedrew the line.

Mark (44:59):
That is not officer of the court behavior. No. And she is
an officer of the court.

Sarah (45:05):
That is disbarment behavior.

Mark (45:08):
I think she should be disbarred.

Sarah (45:10):
But she doesn't because she's in four more episodes

Mark (45:12):
Four more as a lawyer. Including two that she wrote.
Isn't that convenient?

Sarah (45:16):
The character didn't write them?

Mark (45:18):
No. The actress wrote them.

Sarah (45:22):
But if this was the real world, she's lying.

Mark (45:26):
Well, she's up the river.

Sarah (45:27):
Yeah. She's in big trouble. She's at least being
disbarred.

Mark (45:30):
Well, maybe Dennis represents her in court. Because
strangely enough, Dennis is apretty good lawyer. Yeah. Note
Curry discussion from episodeone.

Sarah (45:41):
And haven't we seen them run into each other?

Mark (45:43):
Oh, yeah.

Sarah (45:43):
They have respect for each other.

Mark (45:44):
I think they run into each other.

Sarah (45:45):
They're the two big lawyers in town. Yep. I feel
like at some point, he referssomebody to her. Like, not my
kind of case. You should go talkto

Mark (45:53):
I think so.

Sarah (45:54):
Or it's somebody he's one of the many women he's had a
relationship with, and he says,can't represent you. You gotta
go talk to Miranda or something.

Mark (46:00):
Yes. Every lawyer in this town is a bit of a floozy.

Sarah (46:05):
Does Gina get the house at the end? Do you think she
wins the auction and buys thehouse?

Mark (46:09):
I don't know because someone on the Brokenwood
subreddit asked when Gina movedin with Sims, which is a spoiler
for the future. But

Sarah (46:18):
It's only temporary because something's happening at
her house. Yes. Like she'sgetting it painted or something.
Yeah.

Mark (46:24):
But yeah, I don't know if it's this house or not in the
Fantastic Christmas Zonesepisode. Which I wanna watch
again now because it I think Iwould understand that episode
better after watching the familyup, the Odds episode.

Sarah (46:40):
Yeah. We know something now because at the end of the
episode, because the new Willhas been found, or has it?
Because what what did

Mark (46:50):
She threw

Sarah (46:51):
What did this? The

Mark (46:52):
bottle away. I don't know if it had the paper in it or
not.

Sarah (46:55):
Let's assume they found it. Yeah. So it's Joe who's
auctioning the house. Yeah. Ginawould have done better to just
make an offer before then.

Mark (47:03):
I would think so.

Sarah (47:04):
Yeah. But then she would have been buying it from
somebody who didn't own it.

Mark (47:08):
Yeah. And then you run into all sorts of problems then.
They would just

Sarah (47:12):
be invalid. Yeah. Her offer would be invalid.

Mark (47:15):
Imagine that if you find your dream house and

Sarah (47:19):
Make an offer and it gets accepted and you're financed and
everything, and then you findout the person you're buying it
from doesn't

Mark (47:24):
and know everything. Oh my god.

Sarah (47:27):
Be so mad. You'd sue them.

Mark (47:29):
You would sue them. Dennis Buchanan would appear like magic

Sarah (47:36):
in I that love what Gina says at the end. She's like, he
doesn't know that I listen tothe Russian anthem at full
volume every And he goes, youdo? She goes, no, but I could.
It's something she wouldabsolutely do.

Mark (47:49):
And that's that's an that's evidence of her being
pulled back.

Sarah (47:53):
Yeah. I think she and Wyatt would get along just fine.

Mark (47:56):
I think so too.

Sarah (47:57):
I think she'd be easier to live next to. Yeah. As long
as you didn't mind her dead bodystories every once in a while.

Mark (48:02):
No. I think Wyatt would be interested in asking her about
him.

Sarah (48:05):
Probably. Telling me about your dead bodies. Yep.

Mark (48:09):
Why is he Russian?

Sarah (48:10):
I don't know. I don't know.

Mark (48:12):
She's Russian. Why does not Russian?

Sarah (48:15):
No. That is spark to a flame.

Mark (48:18):
Yeah, which is a stretch for a title, but you gotta put
something on

Sarah (48:22):
the There's bonfire.

Mark (48:23):
You gotta put something on the top.

Sarah (48:25):
Yep. There's a bonfire. Yep. They should have called it
the unnecessary hippo. Yes.
But they don't listen to us.They don't ask us for title
ideas. So sparked to a flame itis. Next week, season eight
episode four.

Mark (48:39):
Which is entitled Three Coins in a Fountain. And it's
about that strange game theyplay in the pub. Now, I think we
should try to play this gamebefore the next episode

Sarah (48:54):
Okay.

Mark (48:55):
And film it so that we can put it put it on on the
Internet.

Sarah (48:59):
Okay. I think I can arrange that. I think so. So
we'll have a child film it andsee how You say child. They're
23.

Mark (49:07):
No. They're great kids. They did an amazing yard work
this morning.

Sarah (49:10):
They did. They did

Mark (49:11):
a great job.

Sarah (49:11):
Anyway, on that note, bye, maniacs.

Mark (49:14):
Bye, maniacs. Thanks for joining us on the mystery
maniacs podcast. If you enjoyedour crazy podcast today, don't
miss out on future episodes.Follow us on social media for
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peeks. Subscribe, like, andshare to spread the word.
Bye, maniacs. I wish there was,like you said, something in the

(49:37):
journal about her beingsensitive about sound or
something.

Sarah (49:40):
Did we talk about that before we started recording? I
think we did.

Mark (49:43):
Okay. I think so. Okay. In the before recording that you
didn't hear

Sarah (49:49):
No. Just strike it and start again.

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