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Sarah (00:02):
Fair men at all in a funeral service would not be
fair. Hey, maniacs.

Mark (00:20):
Hey. What are we even doing here? Wow. No. We're back.
We're back. We're back andbetter than ever.

Sarah (00:27):
Well, I wouldn't say that. Oh. I'm sure you can hear
that we are still rathercongested.

Mark (00:33):
We are returning after a twenty eight day hiatus. Ugh.
That hurts. Ugh. We're sorry.
Poor Sarah. I kinda go insane.The more days that we don't
record a podcast, the moreinsane I go.

Sarah (00:48):
He gets kinda twitchy and negative and he misses his fix.

Mark (00:53):
Yep. So I But I do too. I I have definitely had better
days this week. Yeah.

Sarah (01:01):
We are really happy to be back and thank you for being
patient with us while we enduredbeing overwhelmed and then being
plague ridden and everythingelse.

Mark (01:10):
So I

Sarah (01:10):
am so tired of being sick. I have been runny nose now
for ten days. Nevermind thecoughing, aching, run over by a
truck feeling. Like I am done.

Mark (01:20):
I am so sick and tired

Sarah (01:21):
of is these things not supposed sick to and last this
long.

Mark (01:24):
Is this

Sarah (01:24):
an age thing? Like as you get older, do colds last longer?
Because it's not cool.

Mark (01:28):
It's stupid.

Sarah (01:29):
I'm done with it. I put my foot down. It's not out.
You're evicted.

Mark (01:34):
Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap podcast dedicated
to Mystery TV. Each week, we diginto an episode of the show
including the murders, themayhems, the loonies, the head
colds, and everything else welove.

Sarah (01:47):
This week's season eight, episode six of Brokenwood
Mysteries, four fires and afuneral, the most poorly named
episode that is a fun episode,but is poorly named.

Mark (01:57):
Yes. I'm Mark.

Sarah (01:59):
I'm Sarah. We'll go into that.

Mark (02:00):
Wow. Okay. So being off for a month, every show in the
universe dropped while we weregone.

Sarah (02:08):
Well, all the ones that aren't dropping in October Yes.
Dropped.

Mark (02:12):
So I think the So we had

Sarah (02:14):
things to watch while we were sitting around moaning and
blowing

Mark (02:16):
our noses. So coming up in September and October of most
importance to us is that Acornis now showing Poirot season one
and six and nine through 13

Sarah (02:31):
of The David Soucher Poirot. Yes. The early cases.
The best one.

Mark (02:34):
They call them the early cases and the later cases. And

Sarah (02:38):
we Okay.

Mark (02:39):
We have Do they

Sarah (02:40):
hold back the middle cases? Or

Mark (02:42):
Yes. Because remember those weird there's two seasons
that are owned by other people.

Sarah (02:48):
Know, but I was just like, the early and the late,
like, what's left? The I guessthe middle.

Mark (02:52):
The middle that we don't own.

Sarah (02:54):
But those are on Acorn now.

Mark (02:56):
Yes. And we covered season one in episodes one ninety five
to two twelve.

Sarah (03:02):
What was that in 1998? When was that that we recorded
the

Mark (03:07):
It's a billion years ago. And episode one forty one was
the Halloween episode that wecovered because I love that one.
We love that episode. I watchedthat. That's a comfort to me.
That episode, though.

Sarah (03:21):
It's bad that Julian Rhein type manipulating young
and old women is a comfortingthing to

Mark (03:27):
you. Yes. But Okay. It is. There's animal Bobby.
+1 48, we covered the Christmasepisode. And one thirty three,
one thirty four, and one thirtyfive were our favorite Poirot's
from the first season.

Sarah (03:38):
We'll put all of this in the show notes too. Yes. So if
you I don't know. You've beenliving under a rock and you've
not seen the David SuchetPoirot's, you should absolutely
watch them. Yes.
And if you're rewatching themafter not seeing them for a
while, you might wanna listen toour episodes afterwards because
we rather like Poirot and wewere pretty funny.

Mark (03:58):
Speaking of Poirot, there's a new video game. Yes, I
said video game that wasreleased this week that I am
going to download for the Switchand play sometime soon.

Sarah (04:10):
You're doing it so we don't have to. Because it's
disco Poirot.

Mark (04:14):
She it is Murder on the Orient Express set in the
nineteen seventies.

Sarah (04:19):
There are afros and glittery eyeshadow

Mark (04:22):
And dancing.

Sarah (04:23):
And bell bottoms.

Mark (04:24):
Yep. Poirot dances in the trailer of the the That's video
game. So

Sarah (04:29):
That's right out.

Mark (04:31):
It's it's going to be interesting to see.

Sarah (04:33):
And yet it has the blessing of the estate or would
not exist.

Mark (04:36):
I'm going to have fun with it is what I'm going to do.

Sarah (04:40):
Expect a full report.

Mark (04:41):
I I I will do that. Now the the big thing to talk about
is murder before evensongs.

Sarah (04:47):
I'm looking forward to seeing this.

Mark (04:49):
Now did you read these books? No. They're by Richard
Coles who is a comedian slash

Sarah (04:55):
He scientist is. Is a presenter. Well, no. He he is
actually a minister of someYeah. Anglican maybe.
I don't know.

Mark (05:04):
I would it's part of the

Sarah (05:06):
They call him reverend Coles when he's on a panel show.
So

Mark (05:08):
Yes. The Canon Canon Clement Clement.

Sarah (05:12):
Books. Clement.

Mark (05:13):
Yes. Clement. Yeah. And it stars Neville Longbottom or as
we like to actually call him inhis in his name, Matthew Lewis.

Sarah (05:23):
Matthew Lewis is an example of someone who was an
ugly duckling who is now swan.Yes. He went from being one of
the ugliest, most buck toothbackward kid actors to being a
rather handsome man.

Mark (05:37):
Yes. So that starts on Acorn. This it starts the week
of September 29 and thencontinues on for six episodes in
October. And we will be watchingit. It's set in the eighties, so
we will be eagle eye watching tomake sure they don't pick up a
cell phone or something crazylike that.
In addition, we watched MarloweMurders, the Marlowe Murder

(06:02):
Club, which was on PBS lastmonth. And this month, starting
October 5, is the new youngMagritte. So so there is

Sarah (06:12):
Not the Rowan Atkinson No. Magritte, which is my
favorite. No. Mister BeansMagritte.

Mark (06:17):
So this is Magritte as a young man. Mhmm. I don't even
know if he's in France. Well,he's gotta be in France because
he's French, but we don't knowif he's married or anything like
that. But that starts on theOctober 5 and we've also been
watching the new Lindley, whichI actually like better than the
old Lindley.

Sarah (06:37):
I don't like it better. I like it too. Yes. Because I like
the original a lot and and Ilike this one. And another one
where sorry, baby.
Eye candy. Yes. The new Linleyis rather handsome.

Mark (06:49):
Well, moves with his shoulders.

Sarah (06:51):
I mean, the whole point of him is that he's rather
handsome.

Mark (06:54):
Yes.

Sarah (06:54):
He's an aristocrat.

Mark (06:55):
He's a handsome aristocrat who has a young DS helping him
who is not a young good lookingaristocrat. She's pretty? She's
pretty.

Sarah (07:07):
But Also, what's coming this month is the Midsummer
Murders live shows.

Mark (07:12):
Yes.

Sarah (07:12):
And we hope to have some some folks in the audiences
giving us reports about whatit's like.

Mark (07:17):
Yes. If if if you're there, take pictures. Send us
reports.

Sarah (07:22):
Take notes.

Mark (07:22):
We'll definitely want to hear from you.

Sarah (07:24):
Voice notes. Record yourself.

Mark (07:26):
Oh, that would be fantastic.

Sarah (07:27):
We'll set up a meeting. We'll put you on Zoom or
whatever.

Mark (07:30):
Record it.

Sarah (07:30):
We'll figure it hear on the spot reporting

Mark (07:33):
Yes.

Sarah (07:34):
From maniacs who go and see Midsummer Murders stage
play.

Mark (07:37):
If you're new, they're doing Midsummer Live and it's
the Murders That Badgers Drift.So we all know who did it and we
all know what that involves, butDaniel Casey is

Sarah (07:50):
You're assuming they don't change it?

Mark (07:51):
Yes. I am assuming they don't

Sarah (07:53):
change is playing Barnaby. Not Jones. Troy. Troy
is playing Barnaby, thank you.

Mark (07:58):
Troy is playing Barnaby. So

Sarah (07:59):
One more kind of weird thing. This is actually well,
we've done some recommendationshere, but one more
recommendation before we dive inthat is a little bit off the
beaten track. But I think peoplewho like the shows that we like
will love this. Yes. There's ashow on Netflix called Crime
Scene Zero.

Mark (08:17):
Is it Crime Scene Demon Hunters? No.

Sarah (08:19):
No. No. It's called Crime Scene Zero. Don't confuse people
if they wanna find it. It's onNetflix.
It is a Korean show that issomewhere between a murder
mystery dinner party, a realityshow

Mark (08:34):
And a play.

Sarah (08:35):
And a play. So they have actors who have roles to play.
Yes. And they know theirbackstory, and one of them is
the killer, but the other onesdon't know who the killer is.
The actors who are not thekiller are not allowed to lie
about their backstory, but thekiller is allowed to lie.
And they have to find clues andsolve a murder. And it's really

(09:00):
it's challenging, but it followsthe rules. You see every clue
they find. Yep. You are fully asinformed as they are.
And I was stumped.

Mark (09:11):
It's like going to a murder mystery party without
having to deal with people orfood. Yeah. Or going there.

Sarah (09:18):
Right. Right. You just get to watch other people do it.
Yes. But it's really fun.
It's called crime scene zero.Give it Yep. Give it a Give it a
try. Watch.

Mark (09:27):
Okay. Episode number six of season eight, four fires and
a funeral, which is a referenceto four weddings and a funeral.

Sarah (09:36):
I get that, but they can't count.

Mark (09:38):
No. Because we counted three fires and two funerals.

Sarah (09:42):
Now, if you can find a fourth fire referenced, let us
know. But we could only findthree. And there's definitely
two funerals.

Mark (09:50):
There's definitely two funerals.

Sarah (09:51):
For sure. We only attend one of them.

Mark (09:53):
Originally, air date is the 07/25/2022, which doesn't
seem so long ago, but also seemslike in the before times still.

Sarah (10:05):
It's not.

Mark (10:06):
Michael Hurst directed this. Timothy Baum and a young
man that we know, Nick Sampsonwrote.

Sarah (10:13):
Ginger Ranger.

Mark (10:14):
Ginger Ranger. And you

Sarah (10:16):
can tell that Nick Sampson wrote

Mark (10:18):
There's some funny stuff.

Sarah (10:19):
Funny. Yeah. There's some funny I mean, the funeral
director, Warren, may as well bean ode. Yes. He's a cousin of

Mark (10:26):
odes or something. I'm sure he's an ode cousin. So

Sarah (10:30):
It's all about a fire a volunteer fire department.

Mark (10:33):
Okay. I have a question. How did this Okay. There's two
questions and they come togetherin this episode. First of all,
we have discussed how the doctoris a death magnet.

Sarah (10:44):
Doctor Plummer?

Mark (10:45):
Yep.

Sarah (10:46):
Yes. He's he's like Joyce, he shouldn't have any
hobbies No. Because it justcauses death.

Mark (10:52):
So the death magnet in this episode now goes to the
death location which is the golfcourse. How many people have
died on this golf course?

Sarah (11:00):
I wouldn't golf in Brokenwood.

Mark (11:02):
Oh my

Sarah (11:02):
get fertilizer tossed in your face. It's Or whatever it
was. Plant killer.

Mark (11:08):
So they're sides. Who knows? They're there to attend
to an EMT situation, which iscommon for volunteer
firefighters for small townsthat have volunteer firefighters
in them. They're firstresponders period. People forget
that EMT firemen are alsothere's also a squad of EMTs

(11:28):
usually for a fireman, fire firebrigade.
I know this is true because mybrother-in-law Phil, who we call
fireman Phil Mhmm. Really wasn'ta fireman. He was an EMT for
years.

Sarah (11:41):
With the fire department.

Mark (11:42):
With the fire department at the Calgary Airport. And
really, where where that wasinteresting is they dealt with
very few fires and a lot of EMT.Mhmm. So he he was actually a
busy guy because of EMT stuff,but they barely did any fires
because a fire at an airport isa really, really bad thing.

Sarah (12:02):
These people spend a lot of time at the fire department
as volunteers. Like, I I don'tknow how they have time for
anything else. They seem toalways be there, and yet they
all have other jobs. So there'sSteve, who is actually a
firefighter. He's the only fulltime paid this is a spoiler
podcast.

Mark (12:22):
We're about

Sarah (12:22):
to ruin it. Steve is the killer.

Mark (12:24):
Steve is also bat crazy.

Sarah (12:27):
Yeah. Well, he's got trauma. Yes. But then everybody
else is a volunteer. So you'vegot Roger Plummer, who's the
psychiatrist death magnet.
Sean and Claudia, who apparentlyare fitness instructors or
something?

Mark (12:42):
Maybe. Are they just I guess.

Sarah (12:44):
Hobbyist Yeah. Fitness people?

Mark (12:46):
I'm not sure what they do.

Sarah (12:48):
I don't know, but he's super buff.

Mark (12:50):
Yes.

Sarah (12:50):
Romilly, who's a hairdresser, and then Warren,
who is the funeral director.

Mark (12:55):
Yes. Who we saw before in the episode in which The

Sarah (13:00):
Miss Scarlet episode with the Clue party

Mark (13:03):
Yes.

Sarah (13:03):
Where the body got lost. Yes. Yeah. That old sharp tack
Warren. But now he's got asidekick who's even worse than
he is.

Mark (13:11):
And, of course, they have a calendar because all fire
departments have calendars.

Sarah (13:16):
What was your impression of Rommelny pushing the calendar
onto Kristen?

Mark (13:21):
It felt like it was weird. It was like, you usually do
those things to sell them

Sarah (13:27):
to

Mark (13:28):
get money for

Sarah (13:29):
They're fundraisers.

Mark (13:30):
Yeah. They're fundraisers. And she's just giving them away.
It it I thought Rommelny washitting on her. Yeah.
It felt Initially.

Sarah (13:38):
Kinda hitting on. Yeah. But really she's going, you
wanna see the photos of Stevenhere?

Mark (13:43):
Yeah. Girlfriend. Now, Romilly is played by Laura
Daniels who do you know where welast saw her? Mm-mm. She was in
Taskmaster, New Zealand.
Oh, One of the seasons wewatched, she was in that.

Sarah (13:57):
It's fun. Yeah. So Warren, the funeral funeral
director, Warren Bugle, happenedto find a sidekick, horn blower.

Mark (14:04):
Yeah. They're leaning into it here.

Sarah (14:07):
They really I mean, the branding of the funeral home,
the newly branded funeral homeis great. Didn't even a time.

Mark (14:16):
We're not really selling.

Sarah (14:17):
But they've got their logo on everything, and they've
got mugs and the t shirt and Imean they they they did a really
good

Mark (14:25):
job. I think it's a fun commentary on stuff that you can
now brand easily But should thatmaybe you shouldn't brand.

Sarah (14:34):
You should not easily. We also have a recurring character
in Doug Yes. Who is Trudy's ex

Mark (14:41):
whose barn burns down. But he wasn't there. It's not an
insurance scheme because Dougwas in the city at a Vincent van
Gogh exhibit.

Sarah (14:51):
This guy who whipped his own ear off in a hissy fit. I
love Doug. Van Gogh's hissy fit.That's a name for a band right
there.

Mark (15:00):
Yeah. He says the the barn's full of borer. Do you
know what that is? No. They'rekinda like a termite insect.

Sarah (15:08):
Oh, okay.

Mark (15:09):
Yeah. Or it could have been those teenagers with their
pot and their sex. They'realways fornicating.

Sarah (15:15):
That's all they ever do. At the same time, and I don't
don't wanna walk through everyplot point of this episode
because that doesn't make anysense because people have
watched it. No. So at the sametime that we have the
firefighters being called out,the reason why Kristen is even
there at the golf course is thatthe uniforms, the massive number
of uniform officers they haveapparently in Brokenwood that we

(15:38):
don't know about other than thetwo that we see in the station
and Nigel upstairs.

Mark (15:43):
Yes.

Sarah (15:45):
Mysterious Nigel. Is there's a spate of burglaries
going on Yes. That Chalmers isworking on.

Mark (15:51):
Which is a realistic crime for them to be working on.

Sarah (15:55):
Brokenwood has a problem with weird burglaries though.

Mark (15:58):
Yes.

Sarah (15:59):
Like before it was taxidermy being stolen.

Mark (16:02):
Yes. And now it's

Sarah (16:03):
like ceramic dogs and watches and coffee carts.

Mark (16:06):
Why is she stealing the ceramic dogs?

Sarah (16:10):
She's stealing

Mark (16:11):
Is there a market

Sarah (16:12):
for that? No. Because she has lots of money apparently.

Mark (16:15):
Yes. That's true.

Sarah (16:16):
She's just a kleptomaniac apparently.

Mark (16:19):
I guess.

Sarah (16:19):
She needs the adrenaline rush. She can't do enough
extreme sports, Mark. That's whyshe works out in the cemetery
because you just never know.

Mark (16:27):
You never know when someone could jump out and grab
you.

Sarah (16:30):
Yeah. Okay. But Chalmers has to drop the burglary
investigation because of themurder, because of the body they
find in the barn. Like, that's apriority.

Mark (16:44):
That's a priority.

Sarah (16:45):
That makes sense, I think.

Mark (16:46):
He takes down his little robbery board and puts up the
murder board.

Sarah (16:50):
You can only imagine when there's non murder, what ends up
on that incident board Yes. InBrokenwood because if it's worth
putting photos of of stolenceramic dogs up, like what
others like jaywalking photosor, you know, a flasher

Mark (17:09):
I have

Sarah (17:09):
to on the incident board.

Mark (17:11):
I have to think that small town crime A pickpocket. Is
pretty not boring.

Sarah (17:16):
Run of the mill.

Mark (17:17):
But it's it's probably a lot of property related things
and a lot of theft.

Sarah (17:22):
It's a lot of nuisance?

Mark (17:23):
Yep.

Sarah (17:24):
Those kids when they're not fornicating or drinking,
they're causing property damage.Yes. Or I know who did this.
Yes. It's Dave.

Mark (17:33):
Yes.

Sarah (17:34):
Dave's been doing that kind of crime forever.

Mark (17:37):
I there has to be like a kind of we know who's doing
this, but we have to go throughthe motions to make sure that
that person is doing it.

Sarah (17:46):
Yeah. Because it could be a copycat. Could be. There could
be a copycat nuisance propertydamage guy. You never know.

Mark (17:55):
They made a mistake here when Mike and Sims go back to
the station. You can clearly seethat there's an equipment board
with a defected loan log on itin the background that says
Green Height, which is a regionon the North Side Of Auckland.

(18:18):
So this fire station is thatfire station.

Sarah (18:22):
Okay. I I was confused. I didn't know if you meant the
police station or the firestation.

Mark (18:27):
No. Meant the fire station. Okay. Sorry. Sorry.

Sarah (18:29):
So there's some existing stuff in the fire station Yes.
That gives away its actuallocation.

Mark (18:35):
Yes. Okay. Their chainsaw is also not starting according
to this bulletin board.

Sarah (18:41):
Well, that's important.

Mark (18:42):
If you want to help out the green height equipment
defect and loan log, theirchainsaw needs some help.
Speaking of Green,

Sarah (18:51):
Rev Green Yes. Has baguettes. Yes. His He bicycle
basket.

Mark (18:57):
He's so so this is where we see Samson's influence.
Right? So he's there to tellthem that he's not really happy
with Hornblower as an embalmer.

Sarah (19:12):
Because Because? Because he made reverend doctor
Plummer's mom look like HenryMunster.

Mark (19:19):
That is a bad embodiment. We've all If you make a little

Sarah (19:24):
old lady look like Frankenstein, you did a bad job.
We

Mark (19:27):
we've all

Sarah (19:29):
It's a style choice.

Mark (19:30):
Yep.

Sarah (19:30):
It's it's it's judgment. It's qualitative. Yes. I mean,
if you've been to a funeral withan open casket, you know it's
kind of strange. They really dodo their best.
Yeah. But what what happened todoctor Plummer's mom? Like, did
she And when she get decapitatedand had to sew her neck back on
with great big stitches or what?

Mark (19:52):
I don't know. And when doctor Plummer gets the chance
to take the hearse back, he'slike, oh,

Sarah (19:57):
yeah. Sure. I'll take your

Mark (19:58):
hearse I'll take your hearse back.

Sarah (20:01):
So let's just talk about Warren and Dougal.

Mark (20:04):
Okay.

Sarah (20:04):
Okay. Dougal, a horn blower, is the embalmer.

Mark (20:06):
Yeah.

Sarah (20:07):
Warren is an idiot. I don't know how he puts his pants
on in

Mark (20:11):
the morning.

Sarah (20:12):
They're both so So he's

Mark (20:14):
let's get the Antarctica scheme out of the way first.

Sarah (20:18):
When the police show up at the funeral home, Dougal says
Warren isn't there. And youthink, oh, he either isn't there
or he's hiding. Like, he'sguilty, so he's hiding because
he's in the chiller. But he'snot in the chiller because he's
hiding from the cops. He's inthe chiller because he's he's
building up his cold tolerance.

Mark (20:36):
That's not how that's not how Antarctica works because
they're trying to get thethey're trying to get the
contract for Antarctica. So theydo two things. They they spend
time in the chiller, which iswrong.

Sarah (20:52):
And they practice burials at

Mark (20:53):
Then they practice burials at sea, which is basically a
ejecto funeral. So they have apretend body that they're
practicing these burials at seawith. You don't bury someone at
sea at the shore. Right?

Sarah (21:13):
Okay. If you're working on an Antarctic exploration and
scientific base, you don't burypeople at sea.

Mark (21:21):
No. It is well known that Antarctica is one of the driest
places on

Sarah (21:27):
You I would think if somebody died there, and I
didn't look it up, but I wouldthink if somebody died there,
you would package them very wellYes. So they are animal proof,
and put them outside somewheresafe until the next

Mark (21:41):
Like in an outbuilding.

Sarah (21:43):
Pick them up. Yes. Because it's already cold. It's
already cold. You don't injectthem out the back of a van into
the water.
How do you think they did that?You think there were people in
the back of the van who shovedit real hard?

Mark (21:59):
I think Nick Sampson was in the back of that van pushing
that because that is clearly avision he had for a scene.

Sarah (22:07):
I want it to fly at least 10 feet before it starts to
drop. It's like it's likegreased up with Crisco or
something, so it slides realfast out the back.

Mark (22:17):
Well, all I know is I have new ideas for my end of day
ceremony now. So the secondthing about them is their names
and their relation to theirmusical prowess.

Sarah (22:32):
Bugle and Hornblower who are actually our saxon bass.
Yes. So Which is another servicethey offer.

Mark (22:39):
The funeral at the end. They are they become and it's
clear that with the service weoffer line, they're making fun
of Midsummer here. They're andthey're making some fun of the
Rainbirds.

Sarah (22:54):
Okay. Dennis Rainbird looks like a class act compared
to these people. They're

Mark (23:02):
are meant that like, there's a direct reference, I
think.

Sarah (23:07):
They do eco burials.

Mark (23:09):
Yes.

Sarah (23:09):
They're practicing burials at sea. Yes. And now
they offer not a satin service.No. They offer musical
accompaniment.

Mark (23:17):
Yes. So this musical accompaniment is I I have in my
notes perhaps the worst dirgeever played.

Sarah (23:26):
Well, neither of them are good at their instruments. It
makes the the wedding cakeorganist lady look really good
Yes. That she can actually playa song.

Mark (23:38):
Did you note that she she attempts to come in when they're
playing and then stops herself?Never mind.

Sarah (23:45):
No. I'm not joining the song.

Mark (23:47):
So they play whole notes of atonal music. Right? So
they're not in tune with eachother.

Sarah (23:55):
No. They have no rhythm either.

Mark (23:57):
Well, they play at whole notes. That's all they play.

Sarah (24:01):
That's what you do when you're learning

Mark (24:03):
And

Sarah (24:03):
because you just, like, get your fingers in the right
place.

Mark (24:05):
Do not forget that it is saxophone, bass, and bass drum.

Sarah (24:11):
Mhmm.

Mark (24:11):
So the the bass player is also playing kick drum with his
foot. And it's played for greatcomedy, and it made me think
what live band I would like atmy funeral. And I think that we
need to think of some ideas ofworse instrument combinations.

Sarah (24:31):
Yeah. Because sax and bass is not necessarily a
horrible combination if theywere both actually proficient at
playing their instruments. Yes.I can imagine that you could
play some some jazz or somefunk. Something.
So other worse instrumentalcombos? Is that what you're
saying? Yes. Well, certainlylike harp and theremin Harp be

(24:52):
pretty bad.

Mark (24:54):
That would be rough.

Sarah (24:55):
He'd get the theremin and at all in a funeral service
would not be good. No. Forreference, theremin is the
instrument that the MidsummerMurders theme song is played on.
Yes.

Mark (25:08):
An instrument that is played by not touching it.

Sarah (25:12):
Right. So By being near it. Yes.

Mark (25:14):
Oh, no. Really? Mouth harp and anything else. That

Sarah (25:20):
thing?

Mark (25:21):
Yes.

Sarah (25:21):
What you put in your mouth? That's not classy. No.
But the absolute worst or bestinstrument you could play for a
funeral service has got to beslide flute.

Mark (25:35):
Like slide whistle? What? Would make graveside service.
Very interesting.

Sarah (25:43):
You ought to insert a slide whistle right here.

Mark (25:47):
Just Now lay William to rest. Meanwhile, Marks in the
background with his mouth are I

Sarah (26:06):
think steel drum would probably not be that good. Well,
don't know. It's hard to playsad music on a steel drum.

Mark (26:13):
It is hard to play sad music on a steel drum, but.

Sarah (26:18):
Now I'm just trying to think of somebody playing like,
you know the funeral march, buton a slide whistle. How that
would sound, I don't. I can'teven rather

Mark (26:31):
write it

Sarah (26:31):
on that.

Mark (26:35):
We have a slide whistle somewhere in the house.

Sarah (26:37):
All of those combinations would not be, none of them would
be as bad though as Warren andDougal.

Mark (26:43):
Yes. Okay. So accordion's another instrument that maybe is
not the best one.

Sarah (26:48):
You could play sound music on an accordion.

Mark (26:49):
You could. It's like bagpipes. Bagpipes can work at
some funerals.

Sarah (26:54):
They're at a lot of funerals. Alright. I I want a
definitive answer from you

Mark (26:59):
Okay.

Sarah (26:59):
On the following question.

Mark (27:00):
Okay.

Sarah (27:01):
Doogle, awkward creep or awkward creep? You can choose
one. Do not qualify your answer.Awkward creep or awkward creep.
Okay.
That's all you can choose.

Mark (27:11):
I'll get to my answer.

Sarah (27:12):
No. No. No. Choose. I'm gonna say Creep?
Yes. Okay.

Mark (27:17):
So what we're talking about is Dougal's interactions
with his object of affection.Gina. Which is Gina.
Formaldehyde, formaldehyde,formaldehyde. That's all they
talk about.

Sarah (27:29):
So you think he's just a creep?

Mark (27:31):
I think that he is a really socially awkward

Sarah (27:39):
No. No. No. No. So you just changed your answer.
You went with awkward creep.

Mark (27:43):
No. No. He's a creep. He breaks into the morgue and lies
on the table and pretends to bedead, calls Gina in and then
shows her flowers. I utterlydisagree with you.
Oh.

Sarah (28:00):
I think he is just awkward. I actually think he's
kind of sweet and he kinda hasGina's number. I mean, let's
think about who who he's tryingto sweet talk. It's Gina.

Mark (28:13):
Yes.

Sarah (28:14):
Okay? Gina who

Mark (28:15):
He keeps sending me pictures of his organ.

Sarah (28:19):
Gina who shows up in Mike's office with meat cutting
markings on her body. Okay? Iknow. Gina who talks in detail
about how Russian assassins willtake people out and enjoys it.
Gina, who wears a snake fang ina necklace, like, he's learning
Russian to talk to her.

(28:40):
Did you Do you see the light inher face when he when he says,
and she's like because Yeah. Shethinks he can actually speak
Russian, and she is thrilled.

Mark (28:49):
Is thrilled. I do understand that, but I just I
think if he wasn't a creep, hewould think things through
better.

Sarah (28:58):
I think he's just awkward. I think with a little
coaching, he could win her over.

Mark (29:03):
Sims goes so easy on him. I'm like, oh, put him in jail.

Sarah (29:07):
That's more reason for me to think that he's just awkward.

Mark (29:10):
But then Sims is also like, proof, evidence, whatever.
We don't need that stuffanymore. Sims is like almost at
the end of a rope.

Sarah (29:19):
I love that DuBois comes out to the waiting room in the
funeral home with the rubberapron and gloves on, like
doesn't think anything of it.See, more evidence that he's
just awkward. He's not a badperson. He's not nefarious. And
when he realizes that he's madea mistake, you know, with with
Gina, he accepts it.

(29:40):
He's like, well, I yeah. I knowthat now.

Mark (29:43):
Well,

Sarah (29:43):
yeah. I think he actually does want to improve his
technique.

Mark (29:46):
I'm not sure if he knows what a frying pan in a fire is.
Well,

Sarah (29:52):
more evidence that he knows he really screwed up
breaking into the mortuary tosurprise her because he doesn't
even want to admit that he didit. Yeah. But Gina is showing up
in the cemetery to talk to Simsabout it, dressed like a Russian
spy. She looks great. Yes.
But she does stand out.

Mark (30:11):
She is like I love how Sims is like, you could have
come to the station and talkedabout this.

Sarah (30:17):
Dressed like a normal person Yes. Instead of like
Natasha of the SS. Let's talkabout another problem with this
episode. Okay. Speaking of Simsand her evidence.

Mark (30:27):
Yeah.

Sarah (30:28):
That less than a square inch of fabric they find on the
body is not enough to say,that's firefighter's uniform.
No. That could have been a pairof Carhartts.

Mark (30:36):
Yeah. They they needed a little more than that. Like
Plus, wouldn't his boots bethere? Like, that's what I think

Sarah (30:44):
Or at least melted into a puddle on his feet.

Mark (30:46):
Yeah. Like, would think that they would probably be
rubber? Yeah. More likely.

Sarah (30:51):
I think they would be like asbestos lined boots.
They'd be fireproof. Some partof his uniform would have been
fireproof.

Mark (30:59):
Yeah. You would think that it should be fireproof.

Sarah (31:02):
Maybe he didn't have the boots on. We don't see his feet
reenactment of his death, somaybe he's just got the pants
and jacket on. I do find itinteresting though. So I don't
know if we've mentioned this. Wewatch Time Team to fall asleep
at night, and they are oftendoing archeological digs in
Roman and Anglo Saxon siteswhere they had inhumation

(31:27):
burials, so they cremate thebody first.
Yes. And just last night, Iheard an archaeologist say,
well, there's cut marks on thesebones, but we don't think they
stripped the body of the skinand meat before they cremated
it, because bones by themselveswon't burn. You actually need
the fuel of the body, the fat ofthe body, to get the temperature

(31:47):
up enough to cremate bones.

Mark (31:49):
Why, yes, I do have nightmares. Why do ask?

Sarah (31:55):
So fat people cremate better. That's the that's the
moral Wow.

Mark (32:02):
Let us also talk about the worst haircut ever.

Sarah (32:06):
Poor Samantha. Samantha, who comes to say her grandmother
is being threatened by Warrenand his flyers, and then gets
cornered into lying for Romillyand gets a horrible bang cut at

Mark (32:18):
the Oh same my gosh. The fringe is just incredibly bad.
Poor Samantha. And Romilly isthe worst liar of all time. So
she says that she was a shotputter at The Rio Olympics.
The Rio Olympics. Now, I don'tknow if you've ever watched shot

(32:40):
put at the Summer Olympics. Ihave.

Sarah (32:42):
I've thrown shot put. Yes. For real.

Mark (32:45):
You've

Sarah (32:45):
thrown Not at the Olympics.

Mark (32:47):
You've thrown shot put

Sarah (32:48):
In high school.

Mark (32:49):
For real. I've watched the Olympics shot put because
Canadians actually do very wellin this sport. So it's a it's a
summer sport that I enjoywatching and I think this is a
Valerie Adams nod. So who'sValerie Adams? She is the woman

(33:09):
who placed second.
She won the silver medal in shotput in Rio who is from New
Zealand.

Sarah (33:18):
Oh.

Mark (33:19):
So it's kind of one of those goofs where you kind of
are like, well, I kinda did itbecause I'm from New Zealand
too. Yeah.

Sarah (33:32):
The the actress who plays Romilly is a good actress
because it can't be easy to actas a character who is a bad
liar. Yes. That's gotta be hardto

Mark (33:44):
Like, you know right away that she's lying. Yeah. So this
Valerie Adams woman isincredibly interesting. Not only
she's a huge ambassador for thesport and women's sport. There's
that aspect of what she's doingas well.
But her family has 18 childrenin it. She's one of 18 siblings?
One of 18 Wow. Siblings. Andthey're all professional

(34:08):
athletes.

Sarah (34:09):
No wonder she took up shot. She probably wanted to
throw things at her siblings allthe time.

Mark (34:14):
Yeah. And she has one sibling who has cerebral palsy
who is also a Paralympicchampion.

Sarah (34:23):
Of course.

Mark (34:24):
Like, that family

Sarah (34:25):
You can't beat

Mark (34:26):
that got one up early and did stuff all the time.

Sarah (34:32):
If you were a parent of 18 kids, wouldn't you get them
organized to do something? Yeah.Like, would have made them into
their own soccer team orsomething. You're you play both
sides. We have both teams.
Their parents must have beenexhausted. I can only imagine.
Their mother must have beenbroken. You deliver 18 kids.
Yeah.
No. Yeah. Warren is so dumb. Idon't know how he runs a

(34:58):
business. I love that he says,it's so if if if Nick Sampson
Yeah.
I always want to say Simpson. IfNick Sampson wrote the scene
where Warren is beinginterrogated and talking about
his grandpa Janine

Mark (35:13):
Yes.

Sarah (35:14):
It is so good. I'm so bad with names. My grandpa Janine
was bad with names too, like.

Mark (35:20):
No, his name was Max. My uncle's name was Janine.

Sarah (35:23):
Yeah. And his flyers, you're gonna die and I'll be
there when it happens.

Mark (35:32):
It's an advertisement.

Sarah (35:33):
When I taught marketing, some of my students would come
up with stuff like that, and Iwould be like, okay. I just want
you to read that again. Justread it again as if you didn't
write it, and think about it.

Mark (35:46):
Yep.

Sarah (35:47):
Is that how you want to say that?

Mark (35:49):
I gotta say that maybe our other favorite business that
isn't the frog and cheetah ismaybe not run by

Sarah (35:56):
the smartest individual either because Brokenwood, where
morons can run businesses. Frodo

Mark (36:02):
Is has a Frodo's cart stolen? Frodo must have

Sarah (36:08):
the biggest bladder in the universe. You can only
assume he turned his back

Mark (36:14):
Frodo's big bladder is the name of the episode.

Sarah (36:16):
He turned his back on his cart to have a pee and peed for
such a long time that Claudiawas and loudly. It must sound
like a fire hose.

Mark (36:26):
Yes.

Sarah (36:26):
Speaking of firefighters. Like, like his feet must lift
off the ground when he pees.Because she backed up a car

Mark (36:36):
A truck likely.

Sarah (36:38):
Yeah. To his coffee cart, closed the doors and the windows
and all of that. Took the blocksaway from the tires, hooked up
the trailer hitch

Mark (36:47):
Yep.

Sarah (36:48):
And drove it away. And how did no one see her doing it?

Mark (36:53):
And why couldn't she have done this in the middle of the
night and Frodo shows up and hehas no coffee? Like, that still
makes sense.

Sarah (37:01):
If she's stolen it from his house Yeah. Maybe. Well, no.

Mark (37:04):
Do you think he takes it home every night or he leaves it
in the park?

Sarah (37:07):
I think he takes it home every Well,

Mark (37:08):
then, yeah, steal it out of the dry oh, it's been in the
driveway before when his notgirlfriend was there.

Sarah (37:13):
Yeah. Yeah. Kimmy. Yes.

Mark (37:16):
Claudia is like even Maybe she lifted it up by herself and
just ran away with it because

Sarah (37:24):
she's so buff. She she hid it under her coat so nobody
saw her taking it. Like, Frodo'sdumb, but he's not like deaf and
blind. And all I can think of isis he must pee like a horse
because it drowned out the soundof her.

Mark (37:43):
And then he has to go again. But that whole scene is
to make us like Beth even morebecause Beth likes Frodo and
gets Frodo the way Mike likes

Sarah (37:56):
He has sympathy for Frodo. And I can only think that
the reason why somebody hasn'tsaid, oh, I saw Claudia driving
Frodo's coffee cart away, isthat he hasn't reported it yet.
So they haven't asked for, youknow, people who witnessed it.

Mark (38:10):
Frodo is both intelligent at times and then incredibly
dumb at other times. Now he'sthe smartest toads. We're we
know that. But that's

Sarah (38:21):
That's not a claim to fame.

Mark (38:22):
It's not a claim to fame.

Sarah (38:23):
You shouldn't brag about, I'm smarter than Warren. So

Mark (38:29):
this is a Mike and Beth episode and Mike and Beth get
closer together, they'reobviously in a relationship,
she's cooking food for him, he'sgetting the good wine for her,
it's it's lovey dovey in inBrokenwood, but then the specter
of marriage comes up. So Mikesays earlier in the episode that

(38:51):
he doesn't want to get marriedagain, which a man being married
five or six times, four or fivetimes, sorry, I can understand
that. Now, your sister who'strying to set a world record.

Sarah (39:03):
She's done now.

Mark (39:04):
She's done now, but

Sarah (39:08):
Seven. Yeah. It's hard to remember all my brother in law's
names.

Mark (39:15):
Yes. So, but it's understandable that he might be
reticent to get married.

Sarah (39:20):
Not to commit. He seems to be willing to commit. Yes.
But marriage as a I don't know.As a symbol, just it hasn't been
good for him.

Mark (39:32):
And basically, Beth asked him to get married at the end.
And should see the end of theseason.

Sarah (39:38):
Dun dun dun.

Mark (39:39):
Dun dun dun.

Sarah (39:40):
It's a cliffhanger.

Mark (39:42):
Now she's in three more episodes so we know she returns
but we also know she's notmarried to Mike.

Sarah (39:47):
No. So Let's talk about Sean and Claudia. We talked
about Claudia being the burglar.

Mark (39:53):
Yes.

Sarah (39:53):
Let's talk about Sean. He who is what? He's buff? Yep.
He's tattooed?

Mark (39:59):
Wears a nice watch?

Sarah (40:00):
And

Mark (40:01):
he's also lower?

Sarah (40:02):
Yeah. So he's got the letter jacket. Like a like a
horse city jacket, and it sayslower on the back.

Mark (40:10):
Lower what? But if you look

Sarah (40:13):
at it close, it looks like there's periods between
some of the letters, like maybeit's an acronym.

Mark (40:18):
I did think that too.

Sarah (40:20):
But it still doesn't make

Mark (40:21):
any sense know what's going on?

Sarah (40:25):
May it can't be that there's like an Upper and Lower
Brokenwood. There can't be twohigh schools

Mark (40:29):
in Brokenwood. There's not two high schools in Brokenwood.
Know that there's one highschool in Brokenwood because it
appears in a later episode.

Sarah (40:36):
And even then, wouldn't it say like LB, like Lower
Brokenwood?

Mark (40:39):
Or something.

Sarah (40:40):
Right? It's not a brand name. Is it Lowther. Is it that
their high school is sosupportive that even the kids in
the bottom 50% get a letterjacket? But it's Now They're
like, you should be proud of whoyou are no matter how you

(41:01):
achieve on this test.
So much so that if you are inthe lower 50% of your class,
we're going to give you ajacket. But I It says lower.

Mark (41:11):
I accidentally killed my friend with a fondue fork.
You're in the lower. Yes.

Sarah (41:20):
Own it. Yes. Yeah. Okay. It's like if he had a jacket
that said delinquent.

Mark (41:26):
Loser. Upper. Which we like, I almost wanna see later
Sims have an upper jacket,because she would clearly have
an upper jacket.

Sarah (41:36):
Yeah. She would definitely be in the upper.
Yeah. Hers would say like, upuppest. Uppest.
Uppest. We haven't evenmentioned the I mean, we've
mentioned there was a murder inthe barn. Yes. But that's
Warren. Yes.
And I'm sorry, not Warren.Martin. Yes. Who is the first

(42:00):
victim. Then Steve decides totry to kill Doctor.

Mark (42:06):
Plummer And found by friend of the show, Tracy.

Sarah (42:10):
Trudy. You want say that again?

Mark (42:11):
No, no. Tracy.

Sarah (42:13):
The actress's name is Tracy. Yep. You have to cut me
now. Discovered by Trudy, savedby Trudy. Yeah.
Why doesn't Plummer just get outthe passenger I mean, realize
he's been hit on the head, but

Mark (42:27):
Well, he's been choked He's

Sarah (42:28):
been choked. That's right. He could just get out the
other side.

Mark (42:32):
So, Mr. Plummer, Doctor. Plummer goes to the chief's
house and says, the chiefexplains to him what happened.
And, the doctor quite rightlysays, a, I don't want your job
because it's causing problems inmy marriage.

Sarah (42:47):
Mhmm.

Mark (42:48):
And b, you just committed you committed a crime, a serious
crime.

Sarah (42:53):
And you just confessed to me.

Mark (42:54):
And you confessed to me, I have to go tell the police.

Sarah (42:58):
Does do you think Steve thinks that when he confesses to
doctor Plummer that doctorPlummer can't report it? I think
he thinks that. Because ofconfidentiality? Yeah. Yeah.
That's not the case.

Mark (43:09):
You're a criminal. Yeah.

Sarah (43:12):
It's priests also have to report it. Like, if you if you
confess a crime to a priest,they they have to report it.

Mark (43:19):
So that that becomes a problem with doctor Plummer in
the car because I'm like, poorrev green. He's having a tough
episode. He and plumber shouldmove. They should.

Sarah (43:34):
They should move away. Like I said, plumbers shouldn't
have any hobbies.

Mark (43:39):
Yes.

Sarah (43:39):
You should not be allowed to have any hobbies.

Mark (43:41):
But they do end up positive and loving and together
at the end of the episode in away that we like.

Sarah (43:49):
Mhmm. The the whole idea that Steve thinks a good way to
get rid of Plummer is to make itlook like he committed suicide
in the hearse

Mark (43:59):
That's not his hearse.

Sarah (44:01):
He's not thinking straight. No. Steve's not
thinking straight.

Mark (44:04):
Steve I understand Steve has had some trauma. So there
was a fire in which children andparents died, and he is having
trauma related to that.

Sarah (44:15):
And primarily because Steve chose to rescue a drunk
fellow firefighter over thefamily, which he should not have
done.

Mark (44:23):
They are all having trauma over this event. Which I'm sure

Sarah (44:26):
is is quite realistic. Yes. And it it's good that
Plummer has been doing theirtalking circles and giving pro
bono therapy. And

Mark (44:34):
Rommelny and Sean going to karaoke is actually a really
positive thing.

Sarah (44:39):
Mhmm.

Mark (44:40):
The fact that he's doing it on wife's nights that his
wife is out thieving is maybenot the best.

Sarah (44:47):
Well, you know, they have separate lives.

Mark (44:49):
I guess so.

Sarah (44:50):
Their hobbies are separate. They It's okay. You
don't have to spend every

Mark (44:53):
night together. And also that karaoke scene is
fantastically two peoplestanding in a room with blinking
lights.

Sarah (45:00):
On a couch Yes. With disco balls. Yes. I have a
confession. Yes.
When I'm when I tell you I'm inthe garage working on Halloween
Yes. I'm actually burglarizingpeople.

Mark (45:10):
Why do you produce Halloween decorations then?

Sarah (45:14):
It's it's hard. I have to do both.

Mark (45:16):
Oh, okay.

Sarah (45:16):
I can I can make Halloween much faster

Mark (45:19):
than Are I you stealing good stuff? Because I can No. I
could provide you a list.

Sarah (45:25):
No. Just stupid things.

Mark (45:27):
Doll dog figurines.

Sarah (45:29):
Yeah. Stuff I use in Halloween decorations. I'm
stealing PVC pipe and screwsfrom people.

Mark (45:38):
By the way, a reason to follow us on Instagram and join
our Instagram podcast channel.You got special little pictures
of me and Olive going to pick upthe kids at work. Olive

Sarah (45:51):
At the Spirit Halloween store.

Mark (45:53):
And Olive was very happy to be out and inspecting the
whole parking lot.

Sarah (45:58):
Rommelie is a hairdresser who owns her own salon. Yes. And
the salon is called Hair SheBlows.

Mark (46:07):
Hair She Blows.

Sarah (46:08):
With a z.

Mark (46:10):
Hair salon seemed to be prone to the pun name. Shouldn't
our place be more piratey? Imaybe?

Sarah (46:20):
Hair she blows. Like, she should have an eye patch on.

Mark (46:24):
Okay. There's no one else there.

Sarah (46:26):
It's hard to cut hair with a hook.

Mark (46:27):
Poor Sam is a little trapped. So I don't sure
Romilly's doing the best. Andand Sims is like, oh, I get my
hair across town by this otherlady. And Romilly's like, oh,
yeah, that makes sense.

Sarah (46:42):
Yeah, I would go to her too. I think hair salons are
prone to punny names because itdoesn't really hurt their
business. You don't want to havea punny name for like medical
care or food or something. Butit's kind of low stakes, I sort
went looking for really badpunny names for hair salons.

Mark (47:05):
Do you wanna hear a couple that I found?

Sarah (47:07):
These are the worst ones I found. Snip happens. Some of
these actually make it soundlike some place you don't wanna
go to get your haircut. Likehair razors.

Mark (47:21):
Yeah. That I don't need my hair raised.

Sarah (47:23):
Lunatic Fringe. I like that one. It's a punky place.
Yep. It's in London.
Sherlock Combs?

Mark (47:32):
No. No. Sure.

Sarah (47:34):
No. I don't wanna go there either. Curl up and die?

Mark (47:38):
I kinda like that.

Sarah (47:39):
D Y e? Yep. But still it doesn't sound like you're gonna
come out looking better. This isa real place in Chicago. Okay?
Okay. It's called die for yourbeliefs. D y e for your beliefs.

Mark (47:53):
I wanna see a sign of that. Somebody in Chicago, and I
know

Sarah (47:57):
we You have can find it on the internet. It exists. I
found it on Atlas Obscura.

Mark (48:01):
Oh, okay.

Sarah (48:02):
I wanna see the list of other names that they
considered.

Mark (48:05):
That that's a bad name. Barbarella. Barbarella.

Sarah (48:10):
I like that. Yeah. If you're a woman and you have a
barber salon

Mark (48:14):
Yeah.

Sarah (48:15):
I I like that. Julius Scissor.

Mark (48:17):
It's not bad.

Sarah (48:19):
And then there is Jack of All Fades. Nice. Again, it's a
reach.

Mark (48:25):
Yep. It is totally a reach.

Sarah (48:28):
All of them are better than Hair She Blows. Hair She
Blows.

Mark (48:31):
So Steve tries to kill the doctor again in the hospital,
and we get the the scene of Bethbeing told not to act and
acting.

Sarah (48:46):
She has to. She has to. Mike can't get there fast
enough.

Mark (48:50):
No. And we know Chalmers can't get in the car

Sarah (48:52):
to get there. We're can't commandeer a smart car. I mean,
we're we're lucky that Plumberis no longer on the ventilator
because that would have made ita lot easier. He could just like

Mark (49:02):
Turn off the ventilator.

Sarah (49:03):
Squeeze the tube. Yeah. It's a weird hospital where
every patient has their ownnurse assigned to them.

Mark (49:10):
And windows to look in Into the room.

Sarah (49:13):
I don't want to be at that hospital.

Mark (49:16):
But we've seen that hospital set several times.

Sarah (49:18):
Oh, is the hallway that is the hospital. Yes. That is
the whole hospital is thathallway.

Mark (49:24):
And Johnny Hodes was in that room.

Sarah (49:26):
Everybody's in

Mark (49:27):
that Yeah.

Sarah (49:28):
Then, you know, when I see footage of British hospitals
where they have common wards,where they have like eight
people in the same ward, Ithink, ah, no way. Can't Yeah.
No. Private room, thank you.That's the standard in The US.
But that's why we pay so muchmore and more

Mark (49:45):
on this matter for We're not to about that.

Sarah (49:48):
I love that Mike says, good luck with the Antarct job.
I sincerely hope you both end upgoing. Like, please get out of
Brokenwood, you two dummies.Bugle and Hornblower together
sitting side by side like, yeah.We're going in for this
contract.
Yep. The two of them togetherare dumber than each of them
alone.

Mark (50:08):
And I I like how Mike says Beth shouldn't have done that,
but then says she's kindaproficient with the fire
extinguisher.

Sarah (50:17):
Again, if she hadn't, Plumber would be dead.

Mark (50:20):
Yes. She saved Plumber's life.

Sarah (50:22):
Yeah. Jesus was my carpenter, a tradesman up on
high. Green does his absolutebest at that funeral at the end.

Mark (50:33):
I think that's a real song. I think it is.

Sarah (50:36):
I don't know. I couldn't find it. It doesn't mean that
it's not. The the Jesus was acarpenter thing is in a lot of
songs. Yeah.
But not the word It's

Mark (50:46):
not the if it's not in the Anglican hymn book, it's not one
of their songs.

Sarah (50:51):
It doesn't count.

Mark (50:52):
Yeah. The hymn book that has four tunes and 300 songs.

Sarah (50:59):
Does Rev Green come across as somebody who doesn't
actually know the Bible duringthat series?

Mark (51:03):
Oh, a little bit. He knows his Joni Mitchell, but

Sarah (51:07):
Or maybe he just doesn't think that it's appropriate.
Like Yeah. He just loses thequote that he was reaching for
and just went to Joni Mitchell.But they they pay Paradise and
put up a parking lot isn't Idon't know.

Mark (51:22):
And the song it's a personal thing. But that song is
called Big Yellow Taxi.

Sarah (51:28):
Mhmm.

Mark (51:29):
Right? And I understand why a lot of people gravitate to
the line, they pave paradise andput up a parking lot. It is a
perfect line to understand theproblems of urban sprawl and
environmentalism. Mhmm. The songhas nothing to do with that.
No. The song is about her oldman leaving her. That it's a

(51:54):
romantic breakup song. It hasnothing to do with the
environment. And I hate whenpeople only center on that line
because that song is full ofother great lines.

Sarah (52:09):
Don't know what you got till it's gone.

Mark (52:10):
Don't know what you've got till it's gone. It is a metaphor
of what is happening in herlife. And I realize that that
it's a great line aboutenvironmentalism. I do. I
understand all of that.
But it is a breakup song, not anenvironmental anthem. Sorry.

Sarah (52:28):
Are you done? Yes. Soapbox, put away? Yes. Okay.
No, I'm not disagreeing withyou, but what did they not know
that they had before it was gonewith Martin?

Mark (52:40):
I I don't I don't know.

Sarah (52:41):
They had a bad firefighter

Mark (52:44):
who's Who was drunk already.

Sarah (52:45):
Who was an alcoholic and has a horrible mustache. That's
what they had. Yes. And now he'sgone.

Mark (52:51):
And a bad tattoo. Don't forget his Oh, yeah. Horrible
tattoo.

Sarah (52:55):
I think they knew exactly what they had

Mark (52:57):
Yeah. I think so.

Sarah (52:57):
Before he was gone. Now, Steve shouldn't have killed him.
No. Let him die. No.
But yeah, I think they know whatthey had. I love that Sean and
Rommelier sitting together atthe funeral at the end Yes.
Without Claudia Yes.

Mark (53:16):
Because she's in jail.

Sarah (53:17):
She's in jail for burglaring half the town. I
didn't even notice that coffeecart under that tarp. She's also
good with a tarp.

Mark (53:26):
Yeah. That that's a fun funeral of people acting with
their faces.

Sarah (53:31):
Mhmm.

Mark (53:31):
Because Mike a couple of times is like, oh, maybe not say
that.

Sarah (53:36):
Yeah. Poor poor Rev. He's doing his best.

Mark (53:39):
Yep. And so in season eight of Brokenwood Mhmm. We're
left with not knowing if

Sarah (53:45):
Beth and Mike are gonna be married.

Mark (53:48):
We know Chalmers returns. We know Sims returns. We know
the odes returns. So all that isgood.

Sarah (53:54):
Steve and Claudia are gonna go to jail? Yes. Are Bugle
and Hornblower gonna stay atbusiness?

Mark (54:02):
I don't know if we see them again, but if they do,
they'll be up to somethingtrying to make their business.
Like, it's tough as a smallbusiness person. I realize that
completely.

Sarah (54:11):
But they're one of like two funerals, funeral homes in
all of Brokenwood.

Mark (54:15):
But funeral homes have traditions for reasons.

Sarah (54:19):
Yes. It's not really an innovative

Mark (54:23):
You don't want a neon sign of Business. Like one of those
blow up blue men.

Sarah (54:29):
The guy who waves around.

Mark (54:30):
Yeah. Yeah. That's not going out in front of the
funeral home.

Sarah (54:33):
Don't try a theremin or a slide whistle during the
ceremony.

Mark (54:37):
Remember, don't golf in Brokenwood.

Sarah (54:39):
No. And don't go golfing.

Mark (54:41):
Our next episode will be season nine episode one
Brokenwood the musical. Oh, it'sa good one.

Sarah (54:50):
It's a really good start to a season

Mark (54:52):
And for I think now that we've watched these in so much
detail, I think we're gonnanotice stuff in that musical
that we may have not noticedbefore that are references to
other episodes. Absolutely.

Sarah (55:04):
So Yeah. So until then, keep an eye on your coffee cart.

Mark (55:08):
It's spooky season, folks. Happy Halloween.

Sarah (55:11):
It's coming. It's coming. Bye, maniacs.

Mark (55:15):
Bye, maniacs. Thanks for joining us on the mystery
maniacs podcast. If you enjoyedour crazy podcast today, don't
miss out on future episodes.Follow us on social media for
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