Episode 226 | Mystery Maniacs | The Brokenwood Mysteries | "Stone Cold Dead" | All The Tombstones In Wigsville Are Fake! - Mystery Maniacs

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Sarah (00:02):
Yeah. All 3 of them are dead. Hey, Maniacs.

Mark (00:19):
Hey, Maniacs. Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap
podcast dedicated to mystery TV.Each week, we dig into an
episode of a show including themurders, the mayhem, the
loonies, and everything else welove. This week, Broken Wood
Mystery's Stone Cold Dead season4 episode 2.

Sarah (00:38):
How you doing?

Mark (00:39):
Or is it Murdoch? It sort of feels like Murdoch

Sarah (00:42):
off the top. 18/61.

Mark (00:44):
We're a spoiler podcast.

Sarah (00:46):
We're gonna ruin it.

Mark (00:47):
We're gonna ruin it. It's Pat Postman. And if you let your
kids go to these villages

Sarah (00:53):
They can handle this episode.

Mark (00:55):
Handle this episode. I'm doing okay considering I fell
down yesterday while blowingsnow in the driveway.

Sarah (01:03):
I think you you landed well. You didn't break a hip or
anything.

Mark (01:07):
No. There was no breaking of hips or

Sarah (01:09):
You didn't bang your head or anything?

Mark (01:11):
Nope. Nope. It's pretty good.

Sarah (01:12):
Nope. I'm bracing for impact. School starts on Monday.

Mark (01:15):
Yes. School starts on Monday. So we have one returning
to grad school and one returningto undergrad and one returning
nowhere.

Sarah (01:27):
That sounds dark.

Mark (01:28):
It does.

Sarah (01:29):
I'm teaching a new class this semester that I've never
taught before.

Mark (01:32):
Yes.

Sarah (01:33):
And that's a bit it's a lot.

Mark (01:35):
I'm kinda jealous though. I like to teach, but I'll go
back to teaching in a few years.I'm not ready to go back to
teaching right now.

Sarah (01:43):
But

Mark (01:43):
I got too much going on.

Sarah (01:45):
Yeah. I'm excited to talk about this episode because it
happens at a historicalreenactment site.

Mark (01:51):
This is a fantastic episode.

Sarah (01:52):
It is definitely one of those is there a character right
off the bat who is annoying andwho you'd like to slap? They're
probably gonna die. Yep.

Mark (02:00):
And that's the little child.

Sarah (02:02):
Eevee? No. I'll talk about Evie. I pity Evie.

Mark (02:05):
I have some problems with Evie. But first, we have to
clear up some things. First ofall, everyone and their neighbor
and their neighbor's neighborand their auntie in New Zealand
messaged me, including, itseems, Neil Finn to tell me

Sarah (02:23):
Nobody knows who that is but you.

Mark (02:24):
That that Neil Finn from crowded house is New Zealand
born. And so, therefore, NewZealand claims Split Ends, the
first band he was in with hisbrother Tim Finn, and claims
half of Crowded House.

Sarah (02:40):
Because last week, you said they were Australian.

Mark (02:42):
I said they were Australian.

Sarah (02:43):
And you were via email from a lot of people. I did.

Mark (02:52):
Neil Finn didn't actually call me.

Sarah (02:54):
We also learned that, Fatty Mamas, the the food that
Mike brings Sims in the lastepisode is a restaurant.

Mark (03:01):
It's a restaurant. Yep. Which is nice.

Sarah (03:03):
I couldn't find it anywhere online, but

Mark (03:05):
We have no fatty mamas here.

Sarah (03:07):
No. And then there was the big debacle about 47 versus
49.

Mark (03:12):
Yes. And we have a clear winner, which is 49, which was
my choice.

Sarah (03:19):
I guess I have to sing you a you're so right song.

Mark (03:22):
You don't really have to sing me.

Sarah (03:23):
I said I was going to.

Mark (03:24):
Okay.

Sarah (03:25):
Here it is. Okay. Now that that's done, can we get on
with the episode?

Mark (03:29):
Yes. Thank you. Stone Cold Dead.

Sarah (03:32):
Are you singing Stone Cold Crazy by Queen? Yes. Is
that what you're trying

Mark (03:36):
to do? I'm trying to, but I'm mess messing it up quite a
bit. Originally aired on the 5thNovember 2017, directed by
Murray Keane and written by TimBaum. Tim, we we know Tim. This
is his 4th season of writingepisodes.
We know he never wrote detectivebefore, but he has got the plot
now. He's got a bunch ofsuspects. He's got a bunch of

(03:59):
red herring motives. He's got abunch of

Sarah (04:02):
No. Not red herring. Red whale.

Mark (04:08):
We've got a bunch of people near the crime scene
moving in different directions.We got maps, and we have some
spectacular stick figures on theboard.

Sarah (04:19):
And mannequins.

Mark (04:20):
Yes. And mannequins.

Sarah (04:22):
And pits? Yes. Don't forget the pits.

Mark (04:26):
The episode begins like Murdoch. Right? We're back in
18/61. Yeah. And the vicar, atfirst, it looks like he has a
toothache, but, actually, his

Sarah (04:38):
His lamb chop is loose.

Mark (04:39):
His lamb chop is loose.

Sarah (04:43):
Well, it's just it's like typical day at the reenactment
village. Yes. Little Evie andher bonnet is skipping around.
Do do do. Encounters the schoolmom who's awful.
Encounters the minister. Yep.And the lamb chop is loose.
Encounters the postman. Morning.
You know? Like, sun shining. Lala la.

Mark (05:02):
Can't find the blacksmith. He's nowhere to be seen.

Sarah (05:05):
Boom. Arrow to the head. Bang. Whammo.

Mark (05:09):
It's hardcore.

Sarah (05:12):
And down she goes. And nobody's sorry to see her go.

Mark (05:15):
No. But it's it is a modern arrow clearly. It's a
metal arrow. So clearly,something is up.

Sarah (05:23):
So that's charity.

Mark (05:24):
Yes.

Sarah (05:25):
What makes somebody turn into somebody like that? Like, I
I understand being reallypassionate about a period of
history and wanting to bringthat to life for people and
preserve that period of history.I'm all about that. I love
history. But she's not just intohistory.
She is, like, wound so tight

Mark (05:47):
Well

Sarah (05:47):
about everything.

Mark (05:49):
What we need is a diagnosis from doctor Breen, and
doctor Breen would say, she'swiggy.

Sarah (05:56):
Wiggy. Wiggy. Wiggy? No. Seriously, though.
I just don't know. Like, it justseems like such an unhappy way
to live, to be so judgmental ofeverything and everybody.

Mark (06:07):
She was a crazy lady who killed her husband.

Sarah (06:10):
Yeah. So Poor Evie. So initially, when I saw this, you
wonder, like, do they all livethere? And then we learn that
really, they only have opendays, like, every other Sunday
or something like that. So therest of the time, really,
charity is the only one in thiswhole village because everybody
else is off doing their modernlives.
They just show up to act, youknow, on those Sundays. So I

(06:33):
initially thought, oh, my gosh.They have to live there for a
certain period of time. Like,maybe they just do it in the
summers or something. Yeah.
Poor Evie's parents arecommitted to doing this
reenactment, and so they'veroped her in. Kid just wants a
PlayStation, but instead shegets a bonnet and has to skip
around. Turns out she's just anactor there, like, 2 Sundays a
month or whatever. But Whatparents? Well, her mom is there

(06:55):
all the time with her every timewe well, she's always dressed
modern.
She doesn't work there.

Mark (07:00):
Yeah. I Anna. The

Sarah (07:01):
the child The kid's got a job.

Mark (07:03):
The child is let run ripshod all over this place
singing ding dong bell.

Sarah (07:10):
At least it's not ding dong, the witch is dead.

Mark (07:12):
No. No. Ding dong bell, pussy's in the well. Who put her
in? Charity.
Charity. Who pulled her out?

Sarah (07:20):
Mike.

Mark (07:21):
Mike.

Sarah (07:21):
Who fell on her?

Mark (07:22):
Mike. Yeah. Mike.

Sarah (07:23):
It's a him, but yeah. All the mannequins are freaky. I'm
with Breen again. He doesn'tlike spiders. He doesn't like
mannequins.
He doesn't like clowns. We arekin.

Mark (07:34):
So

Sarah (07:35):
They have the worst mannequins too. These wide eyed,
like they almost look likehairdressers mannequins.

Mark (07:40):
Yeah.

Sarah (07:41):
But they have bodies.

Mark (07:42):
They're clearly dresser mannequins that they are using
for this episode.

Sarah (07:46):
Yeah.

Mark (07:47):
First note I have about the scene of the crime is Mike
pulls up right in front of theplace, clear parking spot.

Sarah (07:54):
That's what you do. Okay. You make sure there's a spot for
your boss.

Mark (07:58):
The governor has a spot.

Sarah (07:59):
Yeah. There should be a cone there holding it for him.

Mark (08:02):
So there's a reference here to dynamic duo.

Sarah (08:06):
Mhmm.

Mark (08:06):
And it's it's in reference to, 2 of the characters who we
have seen before. They were theelf and the troll.

Sarah (08:15):
Yeah.

Mark (08:17):
And their character names

Sarah (08:18):
And the Lord of the Rings reenactment. And here they are
playing, like, war reenactorswith muskets and stuff. I would
not trust those 2 doofuses withguns.

Mark (08:27):
Definitely not. And they're called the dynamic duo.
And I my little comic book wentoff because dynamic duo usually
is reference to Batman andRobin. Yeah. Do you know where
it originally comes from?
No. Batman and Robin.

Sarah (08:43):
Well, that doesn't surprise me.

Mark (08:45):
From Batman number 4

Sarah (08:46):
I can imagine it on the cover of the comics.

Mark (08:49):
Yep. Which would have been in the in the late twenties in
the Batman comic written by BillFinger and drawn by Bob Kane.
Absolutely, like, the Jokercalls them the dynamic duo.

Sarah (09:02):
So in preparation for this episode, I have listened to
the rest is history episodeabout New Zealand, and it was
incredibly interesting, and Ilearned nothing of use for this.

Mark (09:14):
Oh, should we announce now that where the rest is maniacs
from now on? That show isgetting so popular. If you're
not

Sarah (09:22):
really good.

Mark (09:22):
If you're not listening to the rest is history.

Sarah (09:25):
If you like history, you gotta be, like, a history
pedant. Yeah. But there areenough people out there who are.

Mark (09:32):
But you'll get into it.

Sarah (09:33):
It's awesome.

Mark (09:34):
And it's part of, the rest is blank network. Yeah. And we
were gonna make a joke that therest is maniacs now.

Sarah (09:41):
The rest is murder. Mysteries. Yeah. But I thought
if I listened to it, maybe Iwould learn more about this
period of history, and I didn't.So I mean, nothing useful in it.

Mark (09:52):
Brings up the next thing that is of interest to me that I
can absolutely relate to, whichis, did you notice the map in
the school room? Yes. What isit? I don't know. I don't It's a
map of the UK.

Sarah (10:05):
Oh, yeah. It would have been. It was colony.

Mark (10:09):
So you have this weird situation where you have
colonial aggressors, whichabsolutely the white people
were. I'm not saying they'renot. Mhmm. Okay? They displaced
tons of Maori people.

Sarah (10:23):
Yep.

Mark (10:23):
Okay? That happened, and that is horrible. But then those
white people were then degradedagain by saying, well, you're
colonists. Mhmm. So you have tolearn British history because
you don't have any real historyof your own.

Sarah (10:39):
Yeah.

Mark (10:40):
And that's what it was like in Canada.

Sarah (10:42):
I bet.

Mark (10:42):
We definitely like, we had picture of the queen in every
classroom.

Sarah (10:49):
Did you have to say hello every morning? You're way
better.

Mark (10:52):
In up until grade 8, we sang oh Canada and God save the
queen every morning in school.Wow.

Sarah (10:59):
Yep. No. Thanks. I can't imagine if we had to sing a song
about the president.

Mark (11:05):
It's bad enough to sing, like, to say

Sarah (11:08):
the pledge of the pledge of allegiance at least is to the
country, not to a person.

Mark (11:13):
Well, somebody, a person, is going to take advantage of
this open day, and that is

Sarah (11:20):
Frodo. 1 The return of Frodo.

Mark (11:23):
Frozen Frodo.

Sarah (11:26):
So He's managed to finagle an ice cream truck.

Mark (11:30):
He's bought himself an ice cream truck.

Sarah (11:32):
He's an entrepreneur.

Mark (11:33):
Yep. This is entrepreneurial Frodo. Like and
this is what we see from therest on now. Tilly gets the
coffee truck, and then he'salways in the car.

Sarah (11:43):
Kinda set. Yeah. He finds his thing. He takes over the the
guy who missus Marlow loves tomake get coffee from. She's
like, ooga ooga.

Mark (11:51):
We'll talk about that later. So Frodo has painted the
van. Mhmm. Mark it like he'sbranded himself. Mhmm.
He's got a website.Frozenfrodo.co.nz. Yes. Which I
can't buy. I'm not allowed to.

Sarah (12:06):
No. You're not allowed to buy that.

Mark (12:08):
But I tried.

Sarah (12:09):
But it's available.

Mark (12:11):
Yes. And when they go talk to Frodo, they cross the street
to talk to Frodo. Who goes, it'spart of my fleet. Yeah.

Sarah (12:19):
How many you got? Well, just this one so far, but he's
thinking big.

Mark (12:23):
Frodo's always positive. He's got he's a he's got an
optimistic outlook.

Sarah (12:27):
I really wanted all of the ice creams on the side of
the truck to have names, butthey don't. But when he's
serving people, he's like, thisis a frozen Frodo fudge
surprise. Or

Mark (12:38):
Yeah. I I wanted them to have all, like, pretend Lord of
the Rings names.

Sarah (12:42):
I just wanted them to have Frodo in everyone.

Mark (12:45):
Well, yes.

Sarah (12:46):
So what do you what what Frodo based ice cream do you
think he should have?

Mark (12:50):
Well, because I like raspberries And because in high
school

Sarah (12:55):
Frodo frambois?

Mark (12:56):
Framboisie is what we called them in high school
because we were inundated withFrench being Canada, and we used
to call raspberries framboisiesbecause it looks like if you
don't know that it's French. Andso I would want a Frodo
surprise.

Sarah (13:14):
I think he should have a pup cup.

Mark (13:16):
A pup cup? Yeah. Okay.

Sarah (13:18):
Called Frodo's Fro Yo for prize. Because you'd give the
dog a frozen yogurt.

Mark (13:26):
Yes.

Sarah (13:26):
It's a fur prize. It's a fur prize.

Mark (13:29):
Yeah. I noticed, speaking of ice cream, at this point in
time, how incredibly cold it isin this scene. Like, all of them
have breath coming. Like Yeah.You could see their breath.

Sarah (13:43):
They're not dressed for cold No. But it's obviously
cold.

Mark (13:47):
And Kristen is really cold.

Sarah (13:49):
It's gotta be hard to pretend you're not cold.

Mark (13:52):
She hides it, but there you catch glimpses of her being
like, I'm going to put my handsin my pocket dancing now.

Sarah (14:01):
Why are you cuddling with that mannequin for warmth? The
dead lady Charity, her sister isthe is the red whale that I'm
talking about.

Mark (14:09):
Her sister is a dumping ground for motive.

Sarah (14:11):
They could not give her more motive than she has. I
mean, Charity is who she is, soshe obviously deserves to die
because she's a horrible humanbeing. So first, Deborah's
husband has had a stroke. Yes.Right?
Brought on by brought on bystress, created by Charity
trying to stop them fromstarting a business that they

(14:33):
had sunk all of their moneyinto. So now they're broke. They
have no business, and herhusband has had a paralyzing
stroke. Yes. There's that.

Mark (14:41):
Like, there's

Sarah (14:42):
that. That's enough right there.

Mark (14:45):
Yeah. Absolutely. What's your sister do for a hobby and
for fun?

Sarah (14:49):
She's a former Olympian archer.

Mark (14:52):
Piling it on here.

Sarah (14:54):
Yes.

Mark (14:55):
So now she's got a bow, and she's angry. Yeah. But it's
not like Charity made moraljudgments about her.

Sarah (15:03):
No. About her having an affair since her husband is
basically just needs to be caredfor 247.

Mark (15:11):
Do did you think that they take him more places than he
needs to go?

Sarah (15:15):
Well, you know, he's with it in his head. He it's just his
body that isn't, you know,reactive. So I think it's good
that he's out and about anddoing things. I think it's kinda
sad that they just park him inthe waiting room sometimes at,
like, the cop shop. That seemskind of, I don't know,
disrespectful just to sit himover there.

Mark (15:35):
But I'm very glad. I put in my notes here, Chekhov's guy
in a wheelchair, and they don'tactually do that.

Sarah (15:44):
Right. He mumbles, and they don't end up making that
meaningful. Like, he's notsecretly going, she did it. She
did it under his breath orsomething.

Mark (15:51):
Brie wants there to do it.

Sarah (15:54):
But, I mean, I'm I'm glad she's bringing him around. He
could easily be home in bed, youknow, so that's good. Yeah. But
then when Mike is also in awheelchair after breaking his
leg, it's kinda like, how manywheelchairs do we need?

Mark (16:07):
It's a little rear window.

Sarah (16:08):
In this one episode. Yeah.

Mark (16:10):
And Breen gives him a little gun. I was

Sarah (16:13):
like, oh,

Mark (16:14):
they can't do the the rear window thing. And they don't.
And

Sarah (16:19):
they don't.

Mark (16:19):
They don't do that, and they don't do the the husband in
a wheelchair is just asympathetic character.

Sarah (16:26):
Yeah. And a reminder of Charity Yeah. Being an awful
person.

Mark (16:30):
Horrible. So her sister did it.

Sarah (16:32):
Justifiably, Deborah is a little bitter over all of it.

Mark (16:36):
So much so that okay. So postman's Pat shows up earlier.
I'm like, oh, yeah. It's postmanPat who does it. And then I was
like, wait a minute.
Her sister clearly did itbecause she has every motive. No
alibi.

Sarah (16:51):
And then her alibi falls apart, and it looks like she's
lying. And she writes the wrongtime on the register at the
respite home, and, like, it'sshort of her fingerprints being
on the arrow. Like, how muchmotive do you have to give this
person?

Mark (17:06):
It's almost like and we're getting way ahead

Sarah (17:09):
of her. Means it's not her.

Mark (17:11):
Yeah. We're it's almost like we're getting ahead of
ourselves here. But when the dgets done, it's almost like she
runs in and goes, dope. I'll doit. Yeah.

Sarah (17:20):
Aw. You got her first. I was on my way. Man, been waiting
all this time. Thanks.
So Charity's husband hasdisappeared 7 years ago Yeah.
Has been declared dead and hasgot a nice Styrofoam tombstone.

Mark (17:36):
Wow. Is that a Styrofoam tombstone?

Sarah (17:39):
The effects in this in this season are so good. They
should have put a little bitmore time into that tombstone.

Mark (17:45):
That tombstone I watched I watched every scene with the
tombstone to see if itfluttered.

Sarah (17:51):
See if it it wiggled in the wind or something. In the

Mark (17:53):
wind a bit.

Sarah (17:54):
When she touches it, does it, like, does it shrink, like,
because she pushes it a littlebit?

Mark (17:59):
I know I know that I love my wife, and I think she's super
freaking amazing, but you havemade so many better styrofoam
tombstones than that styrofoam.

Sarah (18:12):
Needs a prop tombstone, you let me know. I can do it.
Way better than that one. Hedisappeared Yes. 7 years ago.
He just left when I'm walkabouton the beach. Never came back.
They found his clothes.

Mark (18:27):
Found his clothes.

Sarah (18:28):
But not him. Yep. Charity killed him. Yes. She poisoned
him.

Mark (18:33):
Yes. She did. And then put a nail on his head to try to
frame somebody else.

Sarah (18:38):
Just in case.

Mark (18:39):
Wow.

Sarah (18:40):
Just in case. You know? Who don't I like? Well,
everybody. Well, specifically,who don't I like?
How about the blacksmith? Sure.I'll just put an this is
somebody you loved and you canjust put a nail in their head

Mark (18:52):
Yeah.

Sarah (18:52):
After taking their clothes off

Mark (18:54):
And so

Sarah (18:55):
that you can dump them on a beach at some point, I guess.

Mark (18:57):
And I think she probably hit him at least more than once
with that hammer.

Sarah (19:01):
It would take more than months, I think.

Mark (19:04):
And then she hides a group. She plants evidence years
ahead of thing. Oh.

Sarah (19:09):
She's a bad person. Bad person.

Mark (19:13):
Postman Pat reference here. If you are American and
don't know what Postman Pat is,it was an eighties British
television show for kids thatwas cute as all hell.

Sarah (19:23):
Well and if Charity is not nasty enough, speaking of
Postman, she's period correctracist too.

Mark (19:31):
Because Kyle is there. Shows up. Yeah. And she calls
him a native to his face. Andhe'd the fact that he doesn't
punch her at that point in time.

Sarah (19:42):
I wanted to punch her.

Mark (19:44):
I definitely wanted to punch her.

Sarah (19:46):
She just the the Jacqueline Nairn, who plays her,
does a great job of playingsomebody you just wanna slap
constantly. Even when she'scrying over not having a baby,
I'm not sorry for her.

Mark (19:59):
No. She's she's Well, she's replaced it with this
scary one eyed doll.

Sarah (20:04):
That's that's what babies look like back then, Mark.

Mark (20:07):
They had one eye?

Sarah (20:08):
In 18/61.

Mark (20:09):
Yeah. All babies had

Sarah (20:10):
one. Historically accurate. Okay.

Mark (20:12):
You know who else is Colonial babies, Renai. Is a red
herring whale, is the vicar. Iwas getting a chicken out of the
house.

Sarah (20:22):
Wally. What? That's the worst excuse. I wasn't in here
rummaging around for evidence ata crime scene. I was chasing a
chicken that is nowhere to beseen now.
Nope. Evie's like, oh, can Ihelp? I love chasing chickens.
Really? If that's your favoritething to do, no wonder you you
work here.

Mark (20:41):
So they go to interview the vicar at what can only be ex
ex sort of explained away asit's a gift shop that's attached
to the village, and they havethese. Right? Of course. But
there's things in this scenethat are weird.

Sarah (20:58):
Is it a gift shop or is it like a fake general store?

Mark (21:00):
Well, it's both because they have an old cash register
right beside a brand new cashregister. There's 2 cash

Sarah (21:08):
registers there, and there's a whole

Mark (21:08):
bunch of broken wood And

Sarah (21:17):
you're like, pick it up. Pick it up. Pick it up. No. They
don't.
Look at it. And you're, like,pick it up. Pick it up. Pick it
up. No.

Mark (21:28):
They don't.

Sarah (21:29):
So it seems surprisingly specific that they are
reenacting 18/61. There's nobattle that happened in
Brokenwood or anything thatthey're reenacting. It's not a
pivotal period in time for thislocation. I mean, it's a it's an
important period in New Zealandhistory, but at this location,

(21:50):
there's nothing that we know ofthat it's like, oh, we can't let
people forget the battle of18/61. No.
So I went I went looking for,like, other weirdly specific
live reenactment places. Icouldn't I mean, they're all
exactly what you would predict.

Mark (22:06):
Like, everybody's been to one of these. Oh, so sorry.
Everyone in in, like, Americaand Canada and New Zealand,
Australia, places like that. Idon't think they have many of
them in England that are pioneerones because they have, like,
medieval ones.

Sarah (22:24):
You've we've been watching those, what is it? The
Edwardian farm, the Victorianfarm, the World War 2 farm

Mark (22:31):
Where the 3 archaeologists Tudor

Sarah (22:33):
farm

Mark (22:33):
pretend to be farmers

Sarah (22:35):
Yeah. In different periods of time.

Mark (22:38):
And all the last night, they totally blew up because
they were like, these 2 guysstayed another place on the
estate during the evenings, butRuth has decided to stay in the
house. I'm like, yeah.

Sarah (22:51):
You mean, you know, the 3 all sleep in that little trundle
bed there? Nobody's gonnaunderstand what we're talking
about anyway unless they'vewatched any of them. Because
it's always the question ofwhere do they all sleep?

Mark (23:02):
Yes.

Sarah (23:02):
There's I mean, there's a lot of historically preserved
places

Mark (23:06):
Yes.

Sarah (23:06):
But not with live reenactments or like everyday
life going on. Yep. So if therewas an historical event or a
period of time that you wishthere was a reenactment site
for, what would it be?

Mark (23:18):
There's 2 fake 2 ones I know don't exist and one that
exist, and I wanna go to it. Sothe 2 that I'd like to see that
don't exist is I am absolutelyobsessed with the notion of the
Romans leaving England.

Sarah (23:36):
Mhmm.

Mark (23:37):
So I wanna I wanna reenactment of the the moment of
the Romans leaving

Sarah (23:43):
England. And they just pack up their stuff and walk
out.

Mark (23:46):
And I know it's not like that. It took 100 of years, and
it had to do with money and allsorts of things.

Sarah (23:51):
And then, you know, the native Britons just rushed into
their nice houses and said, Ilive here now.

Mark (23:56):
Yes. Oh, really? Well, we're gonna break it all up. So
so there's that. The second one,which we'll never see a
reenactment of, is the drunkenCanadians and Native Americans
going to Washington and burningdown the White House.
We could see that pretty soon.We we could It could happen. We

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could indeed see that.

Sarah (24:21):
It wouldn't be a reenactment.

Mark (24:22):
But that whole war of 18 12 Canada, US border skirmishes
along with the Fenian raids,it's it's a That's a

Sarah (24:32):
big, like, cross border event you want them to reenact?
Okay. So what's the one thatdoes exist?

Mark (24:38):
So the one that does exist is roughly, I think, about 4 and
a half hours from here, south ofSt. Louis, there is a village
that was I think it was, like,maybe a a 1000 BCE, like that
sort of time period, a 1000 to1200 BCE. It was a city larger

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than what London was.

Sarah (25:02):
Wow.

Mark (25:02):
It was a native American colony. And there it's all
mounds now, but that area isdrivable for us. And You'd like
to

Sarah (25:12):
go see it?

Mark (25:13):
I'd like to go see that.

Sarah (25:14):
So if I could have the historical reenactment of my
imagination

Mark (25:18):
Okay.

Sarah (25:19):
Now mind you, what I'm talking about is, like, a
repeated reenactment. Like,every day at 3 o'clock, this
happens

Mark (25:25):
Yes. And you

Sarah (25:25):
can go and watch it.

Mark (25:26):
Well, we're off. That's that's my Roman line.

Sarah (25:32):
It's 5 o'clock on Friday. We're out

Mark (25:35):
of here.

Sarah (25:36):
Pointing at their watches. Yep. What I would like
to see reenacted every day at 3o'clock is the great maple syrup
flood of Boston from 1919.

Mark (25:46):
Molasses, not maple syrup.

Sarah (25:47):
Is it? Yeah. It's molasses. Listed as as maple
syrup everywhere.

Mark (25:51):
Thought it was may I thought it was molasses.

Sarah (25:53):
Maple syrup.

Mark (25:54):
Okay.

Sarah (25:54):
It was 2,300,000 gallons of maple syrup in a 25 foot wave

Mark (26:01):
Yeah. That went down the street, killed, like, 40 people.
It killed 21 people.

Sarah (26:06):
Yeah. But I want them to reenact that

Mark (26:08):
every day.

Sarah (26:12):
You know, you're like you clear the streets. You have
everybody stand, you know, andand little, like, observation
towers to watch it. Yep. Andevery day, this big wave of
stuff comes down the street,watches

Mark (26:23):
a bunch of people down. What that look like.

Sarah (26:25):
And then they just recycle it back up to the top
for the next day.

Mark (26:29):
It just drains and then gets pumped back up Right.

Sarah (26:32):
They could just redo it every day. Somebody should do
that. It'd be a big moneyspinner, I think.

Mark (26:36):
That's absolute so what happened, if you don't know, it
got really, really hot. It wasreally hot in Boston, and they
had this big vat of it, and Ithink it was on stilts.

Sarah (26:48):
It was like a water tower,

Mark (26:49):
but it was like a water syrup.

Sarah (26:51):
And What could go wrong? And

Mark (26:54):
it failed catastrophically. Yeah. And a
wave of sticky gunk

Sarah (27:01):
Came barreling down the street. Like,

Mark (27:06):
you get home and you go, well, Ted died today. Yeah. And
your kids at home are like, howdid he die? And he's like You
know, his house is gone. He gotrun over by people.

Sarah (27:19):
It's just a big slick now of sticky. Yeah. Imagine the
bugs. Oh. See?
They have to reenact all ofthat. That would be great. Then
the next day, they just resetand start over.

Mark (27:30):
That would be fantastic.

Sarah (27:31):
It would be awesome. They could do it in VR or something,
except they'd have to, like,mist you while you had the VR
goggles on with, like, maplescented sticky stuff so you
could get the real experience.

Mark (27:42):
Oh my gosh.

Sarah (27:43):
I'm all about it.

Mark (27:44):
What year was that? 1919. Ugh. Gross.

Sarah (27:49):
I love when postman Pat we're just gonna call him that.
Yep. Is sitting at the tablewith the mannequins and freaks
Mike and Breen out. Yes. I mean,you don't get a whole lot of
entertainment there.

Mark (28:03):
I don't think I don't think they told them that was
going to happen. Really? Becausethey looked really surprised.

Sarah (28:13):
Or they did it, like, on the first take because they are
authentically, like, woah. Yep.I would be if a mannequin
started moving. Little do theyknow. They have just seen the
solution to the puzzle.

Mark (28:26):
Little do they know.

Sarah (28:28):
So there's this keep out area. And Wally, the minister,
he he shouldn't go into anyfield where he's got a life for
a living. I don't know. He comesup with the dumbest excuse.
Yeah.
There's a stinky cesspit backthere. There's, a swamp. A
crocodile lives back there.That's true. Charity just said
we were we weren't allowed to go

Mark (28:45):
back there. So don't go back there. An awful pit.

Sarah (28:48):
Don't go back there. What are you trying to hide, Wally?
To me, initially, it looks likelike a big, you know, the spool
they put we, wire on, like,those big spools. Yeah. Like,
and some stumps.
Like, okay. This is where peoplehang out. That's what this is.
This is and there happens to bea door in the ground.

Mark (29:05):
This is where Kahu goes in, has his

Sarah (29:09):
Talks on his cell phone.

Mark (29:10):
Yeah. Talks on his cell phone.

Sarah (29:11):
Smokes a joint before he has to put the feathers in his
hair and be ashamed. Ugh. AndMike is dumb enough to stand on
top of it. What is he thinking?Wow.
Why does he stand on top of it?

Mark (29:22):
I don't know, but that effect is really good. So they
have somebody. I don't thinkit's Mike, but they have a stunt
person.

Sarah (29:32):
Yeah. I don't think it's Neil Ray.

Mark (29:33):
Yeah. They have a stunt person on top of that. And at
some point in time, they pull aa a probably a rope.

Sarah (29:41):
Yep. And The planks open and he falls up.

Mark (29:44):
And he falls. Now a stunned person would know how to
fall.

Sarah (29:48):
Well, and they'd have a pad on that.

Mark (29:50):
They'd have a pad and all that good stuff.

Sarah (29:51):
And it could be 5 feet deep.

Mark (29:53):
But but that is beautiful.

Sarah (29:56):
Oh, we I've got a good screenshot. Mid fall? Yeah. It's
great.

Mark (30:01):
It's beautiful.

Sarah (30:02):
It's not jumping out of a of a plane, but it's good.

Mark (30:05):
It's totally movie magic. It's fantastic.

Sarah (30:08):
Well, now Mike's on drugs, and he's gonna be line
dancing with elephants.Everybody acts like this
tramadol is gonna make him highas a kite, and he never seems
high as a kite.

Mark (30:16):
He's just not in pain. In fact, he's low as a kite. He
can't reach the top of thewhiteboard.

Sarah (30:20):
What's wrong with the top of the whiteboard? That is

Mark (30:23):
such an awesome preline.

Sarah (30:29):
Like, I just don't believe in writing at the top of
the whiteboard or or what. Youknow? Duh. You can't reach.

Mark (30:34):
So they find a human skeleton at the bottom of the
awful pit, and it's clearly

Sarah (30:40):
Mike's lucky he didn't land on the antlers that are
down there.

Mark (30:44):
What's amazing is that skeleton, the weathering on it
and how it looked, even thoughyou could clearly see a screw in
one point

Sarah (30:51):
Yeah.

Mark (30:52):
It's better than that styrofoam grade marker.

Sarah (30:56):
It's good. And so Mike Bricks is like and here here
you're like, oh, great. They'regonna do rear window.

Mark (31:02):
Well, first of all,

Sarah (31:03):
strapped to the chair

Mark (31:04):
and The most cartoonish cast on him possibly. It's like
it's made of rubber.

Sarah (31:12):
Well, it's gotta be big enough that he can actually
slide his foot and leg into itand take it on and off. So it's
gonna be bigger than a regularcast. Yeah. I guess.

Mark (31:23):
I guess?

Sarah (31:24):
Have you ever had a cast?

Mark (31:26):
No. Me either. Never broken anything.

Sarah (31:28):
I always wanted one though when I was a kid because
it was always so cool.

Mark (31:32):
You got writing on it. People would pay attention to
you. Yeah.

Sarah (31:35):
But it must have sucked.

Mark (31:37):
Oh, I can only imagine how much it sucked.

Sarah (31:39):
I did have a friend who broke her arm, and after she had
her cast off, her arm that hadbeen broken looked like somebody
else's arm. It was like When youhad an arm transplant is what
happened.

Mark (31:50):
When I was a kid, there was a a young girl in our
neighborhood who was severely,had severe medical issues and
she had to be in a body castOof. Which I can only imagine
for an adult is horrible for for

Sarah (32:07):
a child. Body, it would suck.

Mark (32:09):
Would just and this was in the early late seventies, early
eighties. Like, they probablyit's it's as bad as you think it
was.

Sarah (32:18):
She could just she she just couldn't wash. Yeah. Ugh.
As long as you had it on, youcouldn't wash.

Mark (32:23):
Yeah. You couldn't do I was obsessed with trying to
figure out how

Sarah (32:27):
you did a lot of things. Wow. There's holes in it, Mark.
Yeah. Well, yes.
I love that Gina puts a a sheetover the skeleton. Even
skeletons deserve modesty. She'sjust messing with Sims because

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she did not wanna deal withSims.

Mark (32:50):
And she says she's gonna make borscht for Mike and heat
it up for him. What? And in theIMDB criticisms of the episode,
they're like, borscht is alwaysserved cold. Yes. Borscht can be
served cold, but I have eatenlots of hot borscht.

Sarah (33:07):
Really?

Mark (33:08):
Yeah. It's it's different people in different places in
the country eat it differently.Like

Sarah (33:14):
It's Gina too. Yeah. Like, even if 99.9% of people
eat it cold, she would probablyeat it hot.

Mark (33:21):
Mike has such nice toes. Did you notice them?

Sarah (33:24):
No. Oh, they're very nice.

Mark (33:26):
They they line up really nice.

Sarah (33:28):
Are you sure it's actually his foot? Yeah. They're
not prop toes?

Mark (33:31):
No. No. It was his other foot.

Sarah (33:33):
Oh, were you looking at his toes for you, Rico?

Mark (33:37):
I was like, there's his toes. I wonder if he has nice
toes or horrible toes.

Sarah (33:43):
If I was Neil Ray, I would have absolutely had a
pedicure before filming thisepisode. Can you imagine?

Mark (33:51):
Oh, but Mike's away, so Breen is in relaxation mode.
He's got his feet up on thedesk. He's like, what is it?

Sarah (34:01):
You know? I can do what I want now that Sims is in charge.
Hughes keeps showing up thoughevery once in a while.

Mark (34:09):
Is this the only time we have Hughes and Frodo in the
same I

Sarah (34:12):
think so.

Mark (34:13):
I think I

Sarah (34:13):
don't remember any others. I could be wrong, but
it's definitely the first time,and I think it's the only time.

Mark (34:19):
And it's a great bit of writing with Sims and Hughes
where he gives her shit, butgives her the okay that she's
doing the right job too at thesame time. Like

Sarah (34:32):
He's just a good boss. He's like There's nothing you
can complain about.

Mark (34:35):
You're in the club now. Yeah. And Breen, take your feet
off the table. You notice hecalls him Breen?

Sarah (34:42):
Yeah.

Mark (34:42):
Like, so that to me means every time he mistakes his name
He's

Sarah (34:47):
doing it on purpose.

Mark (34:48):
Doing it on purpose.

Sarah (34:49):
He should call him. Frodo Breen. This whole thing with
Gina, like, well, I'll just givethe evidence to Mike. Only he
will understand it. Like, onlyhe will understand strychnine?

Mark (35:02):
Yeah.

Sarah (35:02):
Oh, okay.

Mark (35:03):
Did you notice

Sarah (35:04):
She just wants to go see him.

Mark (35:06):
I always love when they go to people's houses because I get
to see what they

Sarah (35:10):
Imagine the character's home life is like. Yeah.

Mark (35:12):
So did you notice what was on Mike's walls? No. So he is a
framed comic. I don't know where

Sarah (35:19):
it's from.

Mark (35:21):
It's not a comic book. It's a comic strip from a
newspaper.

Sarah (35:25):
Okay.

Mark (35:26):
It's a framed one, though. But I didn't know

Sarah (35:28):
really like it if you do that.

Mark (35:29):
I didn't know what it was. There's a picture of a guy on a
motorcycle. It looks like aTriumph motorcycle. And, of
course, Holly Collins poster.

Sarah (35:38):
Mhmm. Well and now he's got the bull's eye because he's
got Breen's little play gun.

Mark (35:43):
He also has a bunch of miniatures, which are little
rugby players that are dressedin the color of the red blacks,
which is a

Sarah (35:55):
I wonder if they're, like, collector thing.

Mark (35:57):
I don't know.

Sarah (35:57):
Like a not a chewing gum thing, but, you know, like a
crackerjack Yeah. Collectionkind of thing. I just think it's
mean to give him, like, a dartgun when he can't go and get the
the dirts back.

Mark (36:09):
I'm glad that there was a a Tupperware thing full of
darts. Yeah. I was like, he'sgot one dart. He's gonna have to
pick it up all

Sarah (36:17):
the time. Oh, no.

Mark (36:18):
He's got lots of darts.

Sarah (36:19):
That's cool. He's alright. Place is gonna be
littered with him, but he'sokay. It seems to me that it is
mean even though Deborah doesn'treally care about her sister.
It's still kind of mean to askher to come to where her sister
was murdered and give them inputon whether it was possible.
It seems kind of cruel.

Mark (36:36):
Yes. And it adds to the red herring ness

Sarah (36:40):
of her. Well, if she had said, well, I wouldn't even have
shot her from out here. I wouldhave pretended to be a mannequin
and stood in there.

Mark (36:47):
Meanwhile, Wally's like, oh, wait. I have another motive.
I was in love with her. Look.You found her own letters.

Sarah (36:53):
Yeah.

Mark (36:53):
Why did she keep the letters if she didn't like him?
She would he burned her letters.Why did she not burn his
letters?

Sarah (37:01):
I would think that she would just refuse to receive his
letters. I She was so prim.Yeah. Yeah. I I can only imagine
she kept them because she hadsome nefarious reason, like, to
blackmail him later or somethingawful.

Mark (37:13):
Did you notice what was on Mike's desk? No. The white
ferret from the

Sarah (37:17):
last episode. I did see that. Yeah. Because he says you
in my office? Yep.
The ferret's looking at her. Youare.

Mark (37:23):
We find out there was a team building exercise. First
off the worst team buildingexercise.

Sarah (37:30):
A village committee Yep. Which is comprised of everyone
who works there.

Mark (37:35):
Not Ellie. Ellie's not on the committee. I checked. I went
back. I was like

Sarah (37:41):
Evie's not, but her mom is.

Mark (37:43):
Her mom is. Yes.

Sarah (37:44):
Yeah. Are you sure Evie's not there?

Mark (37:47):
I don't think so.

Sarah (37:48):
I think she is. I think she's sitting next to her mom.
Anyway, it's the committee, butit's everybody.

Mark (37:54):
Yeah. They you can't have a committee with everybody. No.
That doesn't work.

Sarah (37:58):
And, you know, we need to be more positive. Let's go shoot
bows and arrows at your sisterand your sister's archery range
who you hate and who hates you.

Mark (38:08):
And they're all like, yeah. That's a good idea.

Sarah (38:11):
I think they're all just hoping to accidentally shoot
Charity.

Mark (38:15):
I think so.

Sarah (38:16):
So she Charity stopped the development of the old bank
that her sister and her husbandhad purchased to turn into,
like, a fund center. Right? SoCharity must have gone to, like,
city council meetings and, youknow, the planning office and
all that stuff. And she worethat whole get up everywhere she

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went.

Mark (38:37):
Single time, and people didn't go, you're from
Wiggsville.

Sarah (38:41):
Yeah. You're you're crazy.

Mark (38:43):
This is exile from Wiggsville.

Sarah (38:44):
Like, did she wear that to the grocery store?

Mark (38:48):
I guess.

Sarah (38:48):
How did she get there? Did she ride a horse? I can't
imagine her driving like a HondaCivic in that get up with the
big hoop and everything.

Mark (38:58):
I guess.

Sarah (38:58):
She's not getting around like that.

Mark (39:02):
Frodo has turned up in another spot.

Sarah (39:06):
That's the bonus of being in a truck. You can do business
wherever you are.

Mark (39:10):
With him parking in front of the The police station?
Police station. She's like, youknow, it is p, infringes on
police business.

Sarah (39:21):
Well, you know, that's the boss's spot. Right? Yes.
Right out front?

Mark (39:25):
Yes. No. Mike Pikes Mike Parks beside joking because on
the

Sarah (39:31):
first scene that they clearly have made a spot for
him.

Mark (39:35):
So I have. So Frodo totally throws the sister under
the bus, who's already like,she's buried under a fleet of
buses at this point. And hegoes, oh, yeah. Shiller and her
were stupid and fixing the tire.And I was trying to sell them

(39:55):
ice cream at 9:30 in themorning.

Sarah (39:57):
They didn't want any. I don't know why.

Mark (39:59):
And she doesn't even pay attention to Frodo.

Sarah (40:03):
Oh, she glares at him and goes

Mark (40:05):
Like, is she gonna kill Frodo?

Sarah (40:09):
No. But she's not about to let him reveal that she was
with her lover when her husbandwas at the respite care. Yeah.
Like, that's just cruel.

Mark (40:20):
Well, it it is cruel, but Deborah's had a hard life.

Sarah (40:25):
Yeah. Okay? And I realized need to find out about
that from Frodo.

Mark (40:29):
I realized I realized that she had a life of abundance and
wonderfulness where she couldpractice her archery and go to
the Olympics. Definitely, youknow, had privilege. But since
then, it's been a bit rough onDeborah.

Sarah (40:47):
But, you know, the next things out of Frodo's mouth are
probably gonna be, well, that'snot the guy you were kissing on
the side of the road the otherday. Who's that guy in the
wheelchair? Does he want someice cream? Like, that's the kind
of thing Frodo's gonna say.Missus Marlow does the same
thing.

Mark (41:02):
Yes.

Sarah (41:02):
Here. I've brought you lasagna because Italian is
healing. I don't know. That'sabout do you think she's a good
cook?

Mark (41:10):
I can give you a spongebob. No. She's not.

Sarah (41:12):
Well, she makes the cheese rolls.

Mark (41:15):
She does make the cheese rolls,

Sarah (41:16):
and then

Mark (41:16):
drive them 1 guy to kill people.

Sarah (41:18):
That's all the bread.

Mark (41:19):
Yeah.

Sarah (41:19):
I mean, really but I bet you her lasagna's good. But then
she's like, oh, here's a littlebit of information that nobody
knows except people who are asold as I am Yes. That I'm just
gonna say in passing to you, toSims, to whatever. You know?
Yep.
That's just what she's therefor. That and to say, animal
attraction.

Mark (41:41):
Everybody's just shows up at Mike's house. Frodo, Hughes,
missus m.

Sarah (41:47):
But only missus m offers him a sponge bath. Yes. He's
like, no. I'm okay. I'm alright.
No. Thank you. I think he'drather have Hughes sponge bath
him than missus Marlowe.

Mark (42:00):
They show up at Mike's house to discuss the case
because Mike wants to keep ontop of things. Yeah. Mike has a
guitar.

Sarah (42:08):
Well and and Gina has hooked him up with a dry erase
board by Magic.

Mark (42:13):
Well, she has one in the car, I

Sarah (42:14):
guess. Obviously.

Mark (42:16):
Who doesn't? She's got a Vadaborsk and a whiteboard.

Sarah (42:20):
He's got a pretty guitar. It's like a burgundy purpley
color.

Mark (42:23):
Yeah. It's out of tune. He plays a g chord. It's way out

Sarah (42:27):
of tune. So nerdy, but it's pretty.

Mark (42:29):
Way out of tune. It's pretty, but it's way out of
tune. Poor Frodo

Sarah (42:32):
gives him an arrowed itch. So he's like, do you know
how how Charity died? She wasshot in the head with an arrow
and Frodo's like, oh, shit. Thislooks bad, doesn't it?

Mark (42:44):
So he can't reach the top of the whiteboard, and Breen
makes a great joke. But did younotice what he drew on the
whiteboard?

Sarah (42:52):
Part? Just chaos.

Mark (42:53):
It's chaos and Charity is a circle with a cross under it
and a big triangle for

Sarah (43:03):
her dress.

Mark (43:08):
Mike is no artist.

Sarah (43:10):
No. He's not he's not the one drawing the little houses in
the village No. That Sims has.

Mark (43:15):
No. We find out that David was dyslexic, and we find that
out from postman Pat, and thenwe know absolutely that postman
Pat is the culprit. Because hehe speaks he says, I wish they'd
shown this to me years agobecause, then we would have

(43:35):
known the truth.

Sarah (43:36):
Yeah. Because clearly, it's not a convincing suicide
letter from David. But you'veskipped over Hughes threatening
to shoot Frodo in the head.

Mark (43:49):
Hughes is in top foreigner

Sarah (43:51):
in the south itself. He really is.

Mark (43:54):
Fantastic. As is Frodo. And and the 2 of them together.
I'm up for Hughes and Frodoadventures.

Sarah (44:01):
Oh, they need to have a road trip.

Mark (44:02):
They need to have a road trip.

Sarah (44:04):
They need to be isolated somewhere where a crime has
happened, and it just happens tobe they're the only 2 Yes.
There.

Mark (44:12):
And they have to solve the problem.

Sarah (44:13):
And everybody else on the team has to, like, by phone,
help them.

Mark (44:18):
Give them clues.

Sarah (44:19):
Yeah. Do what they're doing.

Mark (44:22):
That brings us to detective Sims needing a coffee.
And she needs a coffee, so theygo to the horse trailer coffee
place.

Sarah (44:32):
Mhmm.

Mark (44:32):
We've seen in this show the following things that coffee
has been sold out of vans. It'sbeen sold out of old trucks.
Remember, there was a coffeeboat. Yep. And now we have
coffee horse trailer.
And no one could be more happythan mister smiley saw Catman
behind Sims. Yes. Oh my gosh.She is so happy to be waiting

(44:58):
for his costume.

Sarah (44:59):
I'm on broken with right now. I'm on broken with

Mark (45:02):
right now.

Sarah (45:02):
They told me to wear this hat. Hi, mom. I'm on broken with
right now. He's really stoked.This is where missus m says,
well that's what happens whenyou marry to acquire a fancy
surname rather than for animalattraction.
She's got animal attraction forthe barista.

Mark (45:19):
Yes. She does. He has that voice.

Sarah (45:22):
They didn't have rainbows in 18/61. Charity is not a
scientist.

Mark (45:29):
No. I have Evie. Refraction happens, lady. Evie's
a strange child. I have a notehere.

Sarah (45:36):
I like the rainbow. So the mayor, the poor guy, he's
like, I am not representativegay man.

Mark (45:44):
Like Okay. So we're gonna talk to you like representative.

Sarah (45:47):
I'm not in mental contact with everybody who's gay

Mark (45:50):
in Toronto. He was gay? Did your gaydar go off because
of him?

Sarah (45:55):
Surely, he was at the gay person meeting that you called
that everyone is required to go.

Mark (46:00):
To the gay person meeting.

Sarah (46:02):
Yeah. There's 4 people in Brokenwood going to that
meeting. So we learned thatDavid and Charity well, Charity
desperately wanted a baby. Yes.And it wasn't happening.
And it probably wasn't happeningbecause

Mark (46:14):
He was the gay.

Sarah (46:15):
David is. David was gay. Yes. And was in love with the
postman. And so she poisoned him

Mark (46:23):
Yes.

Sarah (46:23):
And then stripped him Yes. And drove a nail in his
head and dumped him in a hole.And now postman Pat knows about
it and love David and hasdecided charity's gotta go.

Mark (46:35):
Yes. What is the inciting incident here?

Sarah (46:39):
I think it's the 7 years since David went missing that
he's declared dead.

Mark (46:47):
But that was 3 weeks ago.

Sarah (46:48):
And the Styrofoam well, but this may be the next open
day they have.

Mark (46:53):
But why would he do it during an open day?

Sarah (46:55):
Because he needs lots of other people to be there. If
it's just him and her there,it's he did it.

Mark (47:00):
Maybe.

Sarah (47:01):
You know? And it may have taken him a little while to
figure out how to put a a panelin the dummy's chest that will
that will hold a crossbow.Maybe. That would take some
time.

Mark (47:11):
Gotta order the crossbow from Amazon. Yeah. It's gonna
take forever to get to NewZealand.

Sarah (47:16):
We gotta practice with it. Yeah. Make sure that the
sides fall down right andthey'll fit in there. You gotta
practice swapping the mannequinout and changing clothes with
it. Speaking of Dressing amannequin is not easy, by the
way.

Mark (47:27):
Speaking of the mannequin, did you notice they do a little
reenactment of the crime withthe vicar as the murderer?

Sarah (47:34):
Yeah.

Mark (47:34):
It's like this tiny little part, and and the vicar totally
overplays it the way he should.

Sarah (47:41):
Broken Wood's not afraid to include flashback clips that
never happened.

Mark (47:45):
Yes. And that's okay.

Sarah (47:47):
But but in most shows

Mark (47:49):
Yeah.

Sarah (47:49):
If you see a flashback, it's this is what actually
happened. It's kinda misleading.Well, it's alright.

Mark (47:55):
What I wish is the the inciting incident needed some
work here because it's almostlike they do this out in the
wrong order. Like, they shouldalmost find David's body, and
then he kills her.

Sarah (48:09):
Yeah. But I think it's okay because at the at the
funeral for David, end quote

Mark (48:17):
Thank gosh. It wasn't a windy day.

Sarah (48:19):
She says he's dead. Yeah. Like, I know.

Mark (48:23):
And that and that's great.

Sarah (48:25):
And I think I think postman Pat has suspected her.
Yep. And that seals the deal.

Mark (48:30):
And goes home, gets angry, gets his crossbow out, goes and
kills her the next day, butthere's that 3 week gap.

Sarah (48:37):
Like I said, he's gotta figure out how to do it I and
get away with it. Yeah. And it'scomplicated.

Mark (48:42):
I guess. And then we come to the real reason we have this
episode because somebody was atsome place like this, and they
had one of those sensors thatplayed audio, which Hello? By
it.

Sarah (48:54):
Morning.

Mark (48:55):
And from that, this entire plot has been created.

Sarah (49:00):
Yeah. I I think that's a when it it's it's convenient.

Mark (49:06):
Yes.

Sarah (49:07):
But Hello. It'd be kind of fun to have too. Like, every
time you walk past it. Hello.

Mark (49:13):
Hello.

Sarah (49:14):
Morning. Morning. Morning. Like, what if you had
to walk past it over and overagain? Morning.
Morning. Morning. Morning.

Mark (49:20):
You'd learn to dodge it, I think. Jump over it.

Sarah (49:24):
Why does everybody who works here jump when they get to
that point? Morning.

Mark (49:27):
They do a nice man on man kiss here, and he says Charity
took away the thing that Iloved.

Sarah (49:33):
I feel bad for Pat. I do feel bad. And I feel really bad
for David. Man, did he screw up?Yeah.
Like, what did he think? Whatdid he see in her?

Mark (49:42):
I don't know.

Sarah (49:43):
She's awful.

Mark (49:44):
But this is the point where Deborah should have
stepped in front of postman Patand said, no. No. I got this.

Sarah (49:51):
So I just had it in my head that, like okay. Because I
remembered that Pat pretended tobe the mannequin. As soon as you
see the mannequin, you rememberif you've seen it before, you
remember, oh, creepy mannequin.Pat uses that. And I just think,
like, he's there dressed as theschool master, and he looks over
in the other corner.
There's Deborah dressed as

Mark (50:10):
the school master. School master. He's like this giant
compound.

Sarah (50:14):
But Yeah. He's like, wait a minute. This is my idea. And
she's like, no. I had the ideafirst.

Mark (50:19):
Charity comes in. Thou shall not kill.

Sarah (50:24):
Yeah. All 3 of them are dead because they got caught in
the crossfire. Or they findCharity, and she's got an arrow
in one side and out the other ofher head, and then they realize
they're 2 different bows, 2different arrows.

Mark (50:41):
So a couple of things about Charity

Sarah (50:43):
That's what should have happened.

Mark (50:44):
Yes. A couple of things about Charity being dead here.
She does a really good deadbody. Mhmm. And I was surprised
that they showed the arrow inthe head.
Mhmm. That's surprisinglyviolent. There's a little blood
and everything. Yeah. Now theydon't show it going in or
anything.

Sarah (51:03):
No. But That would be impressive.

Mark (51:05):
You get that arrow thlong Thlong.

Sarah (51:08):
Sound. And then it's just stuck on. Yes. It doesn't even
have a suction cup on the end oranything. Nope.

Mark (51:17):
So this is Howick Historic Village. It gets thanked in the
credits.

Sarah (51:22):
Oh, okay.

Mark (51:23):
It's in, near Auckland. It's a tourist place in
Auckland, and you can go look atit at historical village.org.nz,
that and you will notice if youlook at the pictures, especially
the schoolhouse, it's exactlylike it is in the episode.

Sarah (51:43):
They didn't change anything.

Mark (51:45):
The pictures of the

Sarah (51:45):
But they wouldn't. I mean, you know, you can't go
around messing with stuff.

Mark (51:49):
And all that stuff. They change the name of the
blacksmith and what it saysunderneath where it says, you
can get a lucky name. That isnot in the in the museum.

Sarah (52:01):
Yeah. Because But

Mark (52:02):
those people do go great work. And if you're in New
Zealand, go go help them out.

Sarah (52:06):
But in reality, they don't go around offering
schoolchildren red hot nails No.As a souvenir.

Mark (52:13):
No. They do not. Because I

Sarah (52:15):
don't care if you quenched it in water. It's still
freaking hot.

Mark (52:18):
Yeah. I wouldn't wanna touch that at all. And it's
definitely right in the rightarea of broken wood. Like, they
didn't have far to go to dothis.

Sarah (52:27):
Yeah. It's a fun episode. They they set up this whole,
like, timeline and map to makeit seem like, well, it's
impossible for anybody Like,it's puzzling. That we're
suspecting to have done it. Sothere must have been something,
you know, we're wrong aboutsome.
So when you know that Deborahwas not at the respite home at

(52:48):
9:30, you're like, uh-huh. Yep.An assumption has been broken.
Yep. No.
That's not it either. Damn it.

Mark (52:55):
But they they do a great job with that, and they do a
great job of Kahu Taylor isnever suspected. Nope. But they
bring in subtle racism reallywell there.

Sarah (53:09):
Well, there's a tension between realistic historical
reenactment and accepting thatthe past and now were racist
places and not pretending thatit wasn't while understanding
those things are not okay. Yep.And you shouldn't inflict them
on modern people. Well, whenUnless you're charity and you're

(53:29):
a jerk.

Mark (53:30):
Rainbows weren't invented then. They didn't have rainbows
then. Maori weren't inventedthen.

Sarah (53:36):
No. Next week.

Mark (53:38):
Oh, boy.

Sarah (53:39):
Definitely my favorite episode of season 4.

Mark (53:42):
We have a doozy next week. The scarecrow. It has confirmed
stuff in it for us. It has anWhat do you

Sarah (53:52):
mean confirmed stuff? Oh, yeah. The the prop.

Mark (53:55):
Yep. Yeah. The prop, and it has it has probably one of
the most gruesome deaths. Well,it's bad. It's bad.
And it's got little kids at thebeginning finding the body in a
way that is gonna scar them forlife, which is always fantastic.

Sarah (54:12):
It's a good way to start an episode. You know? If only
Eevee had found Charity with thearrow. Darn. I really wanted
Wally's sideburns to just shootoff his face when he found her.
Like, oh, okay. And then theyjust fly off.

Mark (54:26):
The arrow is still going. Yeah. In her head.

Sarah (54:31):
So until next week. Bye, maniacs.

Mark (54:34):
Bye, maniacs. Thanks for joining us on the Mystery
Maniacs podcast. If you enjoyedour crazy podcast today, don't
miss out on future episodes.Follow us on social media for
updates, beyond the scenescontent, and exclusive sneak
peeks. Subscribe, like, andshare to spread the word.
Bye, maniacs.

Sarah (54:53):
5.

Mark (54:54):
4.

Sarah (54:54):
3. 2. Hate maniacs. Mystery

Mark (54:59):
I screwed that up. Let's try

Sarah (55:01):
that again. Yeah. What are you doing?

Mark (55:03):
I don't know.

Sarah (55:03):
You have to say hey first.

Mark (55:04):
Yes.

Sarah (55:05):
There's your outtake.

Mark (55:07):
5.

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