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Mystery Maniacs Episode! In Podcast 229, under an inflatable lizard witch, a killer causes a heart attack and Cotton Candy Gingerbeard and NOT Frodo’s girlfriend come running.

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Mark (00:00):
He's got the big lever.

Sarah (00:18):
Hey, Maniacs. Hey,

Mark (00:20):
Mystery Maniacs. Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap
podcast dedicated to TVmysteries. Each week, we dig
into an episode of the showincluding murders, mayhem, and
loonies, and everything elsethat we love about the show.
This week, broken one mysteriesseason five episode one

Sarah (00:40):
Scared to death. And why

Mark (00:44):
I will postulate this is a Halloween episode because it was
released on the 10/28/2020,02/2018.

Sarah (00:53):
And it's called scared to death and it happens.

Mark (00:54):
It's called scared to death.

Sarah (00:56):
On a Ghost Train.

Mark (00:57):
Yep. I'm Sarah. I'm Mark.

Sarah (00:59):
We're gonna spoil it. We're gonna tell you who did it.
So if you haven't watched it, goaway and watch it. And if your
kids can ride the Ghost Train,they can listen to this episode.
Absolutely.
Even though you're you are gonnatalk about dongs again.

Mark (01:11):
I will. Last week, I mentioned Golden Dawn as a
terrorist group. That wasincorrect. Golden Dawn is the
Aleister Crowley thing.

Sarah (01:21):
The spiritualist

Mark (01:22):
Yep. Group. Society. I got it mixed up with Shining Path,
which is syllables match, but

Sarah (01:29):
that's about it.

Mark (01:30):
Shining and dong.

Sarah (01:31):
It has some light evoked in it.

Mark (01:34):
I guess.

Sarah (01:34):
Neither of them make for a good name for a retirement
home No. Which is what you weretrying to say. I I don't wanna
retire with either of thosegroups

Mark (01:44):
in any way. Definitely not.

Sarah (01:46):
We, we rewatched case histories this week on Acorn.
We'd seen it before. I forgot somuch about it. I really it's I
like it. Now it is one of thosewhere the detective's life is
completely a shambles and notnot even because of his own bad
choices, really.
It's just Oh. Crap happens tohim

Mark (02:06):
a lot. His savior complex Yeah. Causes him

Sarah (02:11):
But he's not self destructive is what I'm saying.
No. But he does have I mean, Icouldn't survive one day of his
life. But if you haven't watchedcase histories, give it a shot.
I think if you if you like thekind of shows that we typically
talk about, I think you'll likeit.

Mark (02:24):
It's both serious and funny. There are a couple
episodes that end quite sadly.But

Sarah (02:30):
But that's the case with

Mark (02:31):
lots of

Sarah (02:31):
really good everything but Midsummer, really.

Mark (02:33):
There's lots of really good things in it. At one point
in time, without giving youspoilers, while saving an old
lady at a car, he's run over bya train.

Sarah (02:44):
Yeah. Takes a lot of beating.

Mark (02:47):
And after four days of being away from the office, he
stumbles into the office afterchecking himself out of the,
the,

Sarah (02:56):
hospital

Mark (02:57):
early because that's what he does. And his secretary was
like, you were in an accident?And he said train accident. And
she goes, a train? He saidsomething like, you should have
seen the train.

Sarah (03:12):
Yeah. If you think I look bad, you should see the train.
It's got good characters. Anyway

Mark (03:16):
it has good characters and really tight writing, especially
if you like when all wheneverything comes together.

Sarah (03:23):
Yeah. When it's like, oh, everything's connected? Yeah. Oh
my gosh. It all is.
Yes. I'd never know that. Sothat's

Mark (03:29):
It's Jason Isaacs Yeah. Who plays one of the major
villains in Harry Potter movies,but

Sarah (03:35):
he's been in He's easy to look at. He's got pretty eyes.
Yeah. Not as pretty as yours.Oh,

Mark (03:41):
it's set in Edinburgh.

Sarah (03:43):
Yeah. So check it out.

Mark (03:44):
Yep. It's on Acorn TV.

Sarah (03:46):
Yep. Another thing that came up this week in some emails
Yes. To us is I thought that Ihad mentioned my killer my
killer granny before.

Mark (04:01):
I'm sure you have. If 229 episodes. We must have covered
it at

Sarah (04:05):
some point. I would think it would have come up, but

Mark (04:08):
I would think in Blue Herons.

Sarah (04:10):
A few people emailed to say, if Sarah explained how her
grandmother killed people, Idon't remember that. Can she
recap it? And if if I'manything, I am here to please
the fans. You know? My mygrandmother was never charged or
convicted with a crime Yes.
That I know of.

Mark (04:30):
This is all supposition.

Sarah (04:32):
Well, no. She was just never caught.

Mark (04:35):
Yes. Okay. And her

Sarah (04:36):
first murder was put down to self defense.

Mark (04:40):
Yes.

Sarah (04:41):
So people are like, okay. Enough playing around. Lay it
out. Okay. So my grandmotherlived to be 92.
I think she was 92, and diedwhen I was in high school. And
she but she was awesome. She gotmarried for the first time when
she was 15 and had a baby at 16and lived on a farm. So her

(05:02):
first, like Unplanned death.Documented kill was a guy,
apparently, who was going aroundfarmhouses where the wives were
home alone during the day whiletheir husbands were out in the
field.
And he would lure them out ofthe house by putting money on
the front porch. And when theycame out the front door, he

(05:23):
would attack them and rape them,and and he'd hurt some people.
Mhmm. And my grandmother knewthat that was going on. And
though she was home alone with ababy, when somebody knocked on
the door and she saw a $10 billduring the depression

Mark (05:38):
Yes.

Sarah (05:39):
Wedged between the the boards of the front porch, she
went out the back porch with theshotgun and went around the
house and shot the guy deadhiding in the bushes. That was
self defense, they said. A lotof people, like, applauded that.

Mark (05:54):
I'm gonna kinda agree with that.

Sarah (05:56):
Yeah. Yeah. So that was one. And then, you know, you
can't call her a serial killerbecause she went a long time
before she did anything againthat we

Mark (06:03):
know of. She's not a spree killer.

Sarah (06:04):
No. If if so, it was so spaced out.

Mark (06:07):
I think we're just gonna just just gonna put her in the
multiple murderer category.

Sarah (06:11):
Okay. Okay. Maybe manslaughter. Okay. Because when
she was in her nineties, in herlate eighties, early nineties

Mark (06:17):
You can't manslaughter somebody with a shotgun.

Sarah (06:21):
Unless it's an accident. You you were just negligent or
whatever. When she was in anactual nursing home, not
assisted living, but a nursinghome, she requested a room by
herself. She liked her owncompany, and they didn't have a
one person room. They had a twoperson room available, but there
was nobody in the second bed.
And they said, we don'tanticipate putting anybody in

(06:42):
the second bed. And she wasquite fine with that. For about
two years, she had her own room.And she was set in her ways and
watching her shows and herstories and game shows and
everything else and eating herown candy and whatever. Nobody
bothered her.
And then they gave her aroommate.

Mark (06:56):
This woman also disliked Sarah's first husband immensely.

Sarah (07:00):
Immensely. She said she could smell him coming down the
hall before he had announcedhimself. She would

Mark (07:07):
have loved me.

Sarah (07:08):
Yeah. She would have loved you a lot. So but they
gave her a roommate. And shecomplained, and they were like,
look. We're out of room.
You gotta have a roommate. Andthe roommate thought that she
could have control of the TV,which was my grandmother's TV.

Mark (07:23):
That's not the case.

Sarah (07:25):
No. It was her TV. She wasn't sharing it with anybody,
and she wasn't having anybodychanging the channel on her. Her
roommate had had a stroke andwasn't very sound on her feet,
but also wore, apparently, aquite obnoxious wig. Oh.
And when we went to see her andher roommate wasn't there, we
said, what happened to yourroommate? And she said she fell

(07:46):
out of bed and hit her head. Andwe said, oh, well, that's sad.
And she said, no. I didn't puther wig on the floor.
And we're like, okay. And Ididn't put the the guardrail
down on the side of her bedeither. No. So what the nurses
told us was that, yes, thiswoman had fallen out of her bed
and smacked her head on thetable next to the bed trying to

(08:08):
reach her wig, which was on thefloor.

Mark (08:10):
How did that get there?

Sarah (08:11):
And she volunteered this information, my grandmother. And
then, about six months later,they gave her another roommate
who had had a stroke and moaneda lot apparently and wailed a
lot and interfered with mygrandmother's TV shows. And when
she disappeared, grandma said, Ididn't put a pillow on her face.

Mark (08:32):
Okay. We we see where this is going.

Sarah (08:35):
They did not give her another roommate.

Mark (08:37):
No. What we've learned from this is don't screw around
with granny's TV.

Sarah (08:41):
No. Or her candy?

Mark (08:43):
No. Gosh. No.

Sarah (08:44):
Or make noise so that she can't hear Price is Right. I
mean, there's just some things,you know, you just don't screw
around with with my grandma.

Mark (08:52):
You gotta spin that big wheel.

Sarah (08:56):
So I after that, it was not a joke, but it was kind of a
threat in the nursing home.Like, if you act up, we're gonna
put you in with Jeanette. Oh.And nobody wanted to be her
roommate anymore. She got herway.
She got her own room until shepassed away. She had her own
room. So that's the story of mygrandmother. I come from a long
line of feisty women. Yes.

Mark (09:16):
This episode directed by Murray Keane who's directed a
bunch of them and written by TimBaum. This is the Wilburys
Brothers Amusements, and theyhave everything that you would
note like the scary mouth clownsthat you shoot at and, fortune
teller and a strong man andtractors and sheep shearing.

Sarah (09:41):
All the typical traveling carnival stuff.

Mark (09:43):
Alpacas and giant pumpkins and then an inflatable witch
lizard thing.

Sarah (09:51):
What? Everybody needs an inflatable witch lizard? We've
got one in the basement.

Mark (09:54):
What is that thing down the top of the ghost train?

Sarah (09:58):
I I don't know what it is.

Mark (10:00):
And that is the dime story as Dracula that ever dime stored
a Dracula.

Sarah (10:06):
Have you ever seen that the actual inside of a ghost
train ride?

Mark (10:09):
Oh, they're

Sarah (10:10):
Like, in with the lights on?

Mark (10:11):
Oh, it's sad. When I was

Sarah (10:14):
in high school, one of the things we did to fundraise
for show choir was we soldelephant ears at the fall
festival, and they had travelingamusements that would come. And
one of our friends got a jobrunning the ghost train and let
us in there before they opened,and we got to look around. And
it it was like a room the sizeof smaller than our living room

(10:34):
that had a track that, like,doubled back on itself, like,
four times. Yep. And every timeit turned, there was a switch
that triggered a light on Yeah.
Something I wouldn't even put inour yard for Halloween
decoration with with some blacklight stuff, and then you were
out.

Mark (10:48):
I, once again, recall the Calgary Stampede I went to when
I was at the World ScoutingJamboree. This is a monumental
moment in my life. I was 14.

Sarah (10:57):
The World Scouting Jamboree would be a monumental.

Mark (10:59):
This is where I saw the the one and only freak show that
I ever saw. The fact that I wasalive when they had freak shows
is Yeah. Very strange. Thehaunted house at that particular
Calgary Stampede, which is likeone of these shows.

Sarah (11:13):
Yeah. It's like a state fair. Yeah. It's

Mark (11:15):
it's a provincial fair, basically. You walk through. Oh.
So things would jump out. It wasmore like a haunted house.
Yeah. But at the very end, therewas a guy dressed up like a
serial killer like he had somesort of mask on or something.

Sarah (11:31):
Bloody apron chainsaw or

Mark (11:32):
something. And had a chainsaw that had no chain on
it.

Sarah (11:36):
Mhmm.

Mark (11:36):
So he would jump out, start it, and chase you out the
door. Something that would neverbe allowed because when you
walked up to this haunted housething, you saw these people
screaming and running out of thedoor. That's perfect.

Sarah (11:53):
That's what you were doing.

Mark (11:54):
I was like, and I remember going through it going, this is
not screw.

Sarah (12:00):
I remember the one time you and I went to a haunted
house. A guy tried to do that tous just after we got out of

Mark (12:04):
it. Yes.

Sarah (12:05):
And I just turned around and went, nope. And he was like,
sorry, ma'am. And went to chasesomebody else with a chainsaw.
Like, I'm not having it. Don'tdo it.
I'm not running.

Mark (12:15):
Well, who's running the ghost train? Our buddy, Frodo.

Sarah (12:19):
How many times have we seen somebody die on a ghost
train? At least once before in amidsummer

Mark (12:24):
There's a midsummer.

Sarah (12:26):
Or somebody gets beheaded. Yes. I feel like
there's others too. But itdoesn't it doesn't matter. Yeah.
Frodo's running it. Of course,he is.

Mark (12:33):
He's got the big lever.

Sarah (12:37):
Harold comes up with his Frodo dog in his hand. Okay.
It's hard to be threateningwhile you're waving around a
Frodo dog.

Mark (12:44):
We need to talk about the Frodo dog because I don't know
what it is.

Sarah (12:49):
I think it's supposed to be a special corn dog.

Mark (12:52):
So it's a hot dog.

Sarah (12:54):
With 11 secret herbs and spices.

Mark (12:56):
We agree with that. With some sort of coating. And then
is there ketchup on it?

Sarah (13:01):
It's, like, dipped in ketchup. Would that,

Mark (13:04):
like, attracts flies?

Sarah (13:06):
It would sog it. It's gross.

Mark (13:08):
It's very gross.

Sarah (13:10):
Especially when you're waggling it around. Yeah. And I
don't know when Johnny buys it.I don't understand when he buys
it.

Mark (13:20):
Okay.

Sarah (13:21):
We'll get there. But I'm just putting that question out
there.

Mark (13:24):
Okay.

Sarah (13:25):
He buys it for Harold.

Mark (13:27):
Or buys it, not dies. No. I was like, he dies, like, right
after this.

Sarah (13:32):
No. Johnny purchases the Frodo dog.

Mark (13:35):
Okay. I didn't know And

Sarah (13:36):
gives it to Harold, and I don't know when he does it.

Mark (13:39):
From the woman who is not Frodo's girlfriend. No. She's
not.

Sarah (13:43):
She says she's not. He says she is. She's not. Like, I
get the sense that Harold hadthis Frodo dog in his hand in
his trailer for, like, an hour,just waggling it around for
emphasis.

Mark (13:56):
It's just gross.

Sarah (13:57):
And then goes running off with it instead of just, like,
throwing it away and going. He'slike, I'm taking this with me so
I can waggle it around.

Mark (14:04):
That those things. Because they're obviously props. Yeah.
Right? So it's not a real hotdog.

Sarah (14:10):
If it is, it doesn't matter. It's still I mean

Mark (14:13):
It's some weird thing that the prop department

Sarah (14:15):
has Yeah.

Mark (14:16):
Has put together. They must have, like, fought each
other with them

Sarah (14:20):
and Jousting with Frodo dogs.

Mark (14:23):
Sorts of weirdness that happened.

Sarah (14:24):
I'm not trusting any sausage that Frodo has anything
to do with.

Mark (14:28):
Well, you know, this is the beginning of, like, Frodo
is, like, I'm trying new things.I'm believing in myself. I'm
marketing myself.

Sarah (14:40):
No. No. No. No. No.
No. No. That's one way to seeit. The other way to see it is
he bought an ice cream truck andthe freezer broke, so he decided
to start selling sausagesinstead.

Mark (14:53):
I and it's like he's almost surprised that the ice
cream melted when the freezerstopped.

Sarah (14:58):
It turns out nobody wants melted ice cream. I don't
braking system, and he's gottago get the fuse. So he gets
Frodo to stay there and not notman the ride. He's not supposed

(15:19):
to run it.

Mark (15:20):
No. He's not licensed.

Sarah (15:21):
He's supposed to, like, prevent people from getting on
it while Johnny goes and comesback. And while Johnny's gone,
Harold shows up, says,bullarkey. It's fine. Run me
through it. Gets on the ride,comes out, has a heart attack.

Mark (15:35):
Are you surprised that this ride has an emergency
braking

Sarah (15:39):
system? Like, it doesn't go so fast that you can't just
jump out. No. I mean, health andsafety is important, I guess.

Mark (15:47):
I guess. So he comes out. He's having a heart attack, and
he says, ghost.

Sarah (15:53):
He knows they call everything in their ghost
something. Ghost snake, ghostbride, ghost vampire, ghost
ghost.

Mark (15:59):
Which which is totally a goof.

Sarah (16:01):
If he really wants to to point the finger at who did
this, he would have said bride.Yes. Not ghost. It's not much of
last words either.

Mark (16:13):
No. No. So what do you want

Sarah (16:15):
your last words to be?

Mark (16:17):
I love you.

Sarah (16:18):
Okay. What do you want funny last words to be?

Mark (16:22):
Well, again Golden Dawn. To to bring the nostalgia and
death portion of the show backinto focus, The last thing my
dad said to my mom was thank youand then he was wheeled off to
get x rays and he kind offlirted with the x-ray
technician because that was mydad. Mhmm.

Sarah (16:40):
And like Working hard or hardly working.

Mark (16:43):
Yeah. Yeah. It was kinda something like that. And, like,
thank you was a fantastic lastword.

Sarah (16:51):
Yeah. I think so. Well, maybe not followed up by
flirting with a young man.

Mark (16:56):
The lottery and the money is in the

Sarah (16:59):
So because they make such a

Mark (17:01):
Tell Janet. I love her. Who's Janet? Who's Janet?

Sarah (17:06):
Because they make such a big deal out of Harold's last
word, I went looking up otherpeople's last words.

Mark (17:11):
Yes.

Sarah (17:11):
And, of course, a lot of them are Jesus, and I see the
light and, you know

Mark (17:16):
Oh my god. You're on the wrong side of the road.

Sarah (17:19):
Bless me or whatever. But I found a couple that were
pretty good. Okay. You know whoPythagoras is. Right?
He of the Pythagorean theorem.He was he was Greek, and the
city that he was in was beingattacked by the crow Crotonians.

Mark (17:34):
Crotonians?

Sarah (17:35):
Okay. It's not Croatoans. It's Crotonians.

Mark (17:37):
Okay.

Sarah (17:38):
And they were burning the city and stuff, and so he needed
to flee. But the only way hecould flee was through a field
of fava beans.

Mark (17:44):
Oh, okay. F fava beans?

Sarah (17:47):
And his last words were, it's better to perish here than
to kill all those poor beans.And then he got cut down.

Mark (17:56):
He's a real human being.

Sarah (17:57):
Yeah. I don't wanna kill the beans.

Mark (18:00):
If it comes down between me and beans, beans are going.

Sarah (18:03):
Beans are going. Richard Loeb. I don't even know who he
is. Nineteen thirty six. Afterbeing slashed 56 times with a
razor in prison, his last wordswere, I think I'm gonna make it.
56 times.

Mark (18:19):
That's that's not gonna happen, dude.

Sarah (18:21):
Is that oh, is that the Loeb as such and such and Loeb?
The the two guys who killedsomebody? Do you remember? Do
you

Mark (18:28):
know what I'm talking about? In Loeb. Yes. It is. They
killed the child.

Sarah (18:31):
That's right. Then I'm

Mark (18:32):
kinda glad he didn't pull through.

Sarah (18:34):
Yeah. I think I'm gonna make it. Pope Alexander the
sixth in fifteen o three. Hishe's a pope. Okay?
Yeah. His final last words.Alright. Alright. I'm coming.
Wait a minute. And the last oneI'll give you, Lope de Vega, a
Spanish playwright, sixteenthirty five.

Mark (18:54):
Okay.

Sarah (18:54):
His last words were, alright then. I'll say it. Dante
makes me sick. And then he died.It's like your last words being,
and I never liked you.
I lied.

Mark (19:09):
The only secret I ever kept was

Sarah (19:12):
Alright. I'll say it. Dante makes me sick. Well,
Harold says

Mark (19:16):
Ghost. Yes. Men of a certain age have heart attacks.
It's expected.

Sarah (19:22):
Especially if they go on a ghost train that has
grammatical errors on it. Yes.Too late to get out now, t o l a
t e.

Mark (19:30):
It's a ghost ride that needs an editor. Jackie Lee is a
sub character that should be inmore episodes, but never appears
again.

Sarah (19:39):
No. I like her kids. Yeah. That they get those super
punk goths skull face painting.She's like, what did you do?
And they're like, she did it.Yep. That's good kids. That's
what they should do.

Mark (19:55):
Now several people have asked online what a and p show
means. And this is anagricultural and pastoral show.

Sarah (20:04):
It means, like, state fair. Yeah. Right? Town. Because
they've got animals and, like, atractor show off place and
because you see people loadingtheir cows up to go home.

Mark (20:15):
Though the words agricultural and pastoral to me
are way too close.

Sarah (20:19):
They're kinda redundant. Yeah. It's like agricultural and
farming. Yeah. Like, it's kindathe same.

Mark (20:26):
So did did you ever enter anything into these things?

Sarah (20:30):
No. I I grew up in the city. What are you talking
about? Never did four h. Younever touched an animal.

Mark (20:36):
I did in a sly way.

Sarah (20:40):
You snuck a you snuck a thing into the No. The county
fair.

Mark (20:44):
Madonna would make stuff and put it in with my name.

Sarah (20:48):
Oh, so she so she could enter more times? Or what? So
did you make a quilt orsomething?

Mark (20:52):
Oh, no. It was all knitting stuff. But yeah.

Sarah (20:55):
You're a good knitter then.

Mark (20:56):
I I guess I was.

Sarah (20:57):
Did you win? No. I know. Well, that's good. So she
entered her the good stuff underher name

Mark (21:02):
Yes.

Sarah (21:03):
And the second good stuff under your name?

Mark (21:05):
I think they were looking for entries. And so

Sarah (21:07):
Oh, they just needed some Yeah. That Mark Bell, he's quite
the knitter. Yes. It would havebeen awful if you'd won, and
then she would had to standthere while you got the ribbon
knowing that she had knit it.

Mark (21:21):
Babe. And this shine blue ribbon on my chest.

Sarah (21:25):
And they're asking you questions.

Mark (21:26):
One old lady knitter.

Sarah (21:28):
They're asking you questions like, what kind of
what weight of yarn do youprefer to work with? And you're
like, two ten, two twenty,whatever works. I don't know.
What size needles do you like?Large.

Mark (21:39):
What I can't believe is I went on amusement park rides at
those things. I can't imaginegoing on those now.

Sarah (21:48):
Oh, the last time we were at a festival like that, the
kids were, like, six. One ofthem wanted desperately to go on
one of the rides. We knew thatit was an absolute meth run
death trap. Yep. And she wouldnot let it go.
We had to leave.

Mark (22:02):
What did she say to you? She yelled something.

Sarah (22:05):
Oh, she said, like, she hated me or something.
Something. Like, I don't loveyou. I Because I wouldn't let
her go on the the spinny deathtrap ride.

Mark (22:13):
I was just like, oh, okay, kids. Let's get in the car.

Sarah (22:16):
It was being run by a guy who had, like, tattoos on his
face and one eye and Yeah. Had,like, a meth pipe in his pocket
that we could see. I was not no.No. So Harold's got fang marks
on his neck Yes.
That are actually slap marks.Who slaps somebody on the neck?

Mark (22:33):
Apparently, fairies. Daisy Rose. Daisy Rose.

Sarah (22:37):
Did he dodge? She meant to slap his face and it hit his
neck?

Mark (22:40):
Maybe, I guess. It's it's pretty difficult for that.

Sarah (22:45):
Which do you think would hurt more? Slap on the face or
slap on the neck?

Mark (22:49):
On your face. There's more nerves on your face. Yeah. More
muscles on your face. So the manwho is killed is part of the
family that runs He's the oldestbrother.
Yes. And he has one brother whois Simon, who is the strong
leader.

Sarah (23:04):
I'm strong. I'm really strong.

Mark (23:05):
So what do you think of their portrayal of mentally
different individuals here?

Sarah (23:10):
They're very kind to him. Yes. He enjoys his life. Yes.
He's happy.
Yes. I don't know how realisticis it he pumps iron every every
day.

Mark (23:21):
To get to where he's at body wise, I gotta think he's
gotta be working out.

Sarah (23:26):
He's gotta be training Yeah. Pretty seriously.

Mark (23:29):
So that was the big problem I had with him.

Sarah (23:31):
And then the middle brother is a pharmacist who lost
his license and now sells snakeoil Yes. That apparently cleans
up acne. Yes. But really justwipes it off. Yes.
Because it's not real. No. Andthen there's His wife. Harold's
ex wife, Sandra.

Mark (23:49):
Who's still works with them, still kinda lives with
that. Well, they have separatecaravans. Yeah. But,

Sarah (23:55):
You call it a caravan or a trailer?

Mark (23:57):
They call it a caravan.

Sarah (23:58):
What do you call it?

Mark (23:59):
It's a trailer. Yeah. But the biggest issue I have with
the next scene is when Gina saysthat her mother and father would
talk to her on Facebook. Becausethe last episode, she said she
deleted her Facebook. There's nocontinuity in this show.
Does Gina have a Facebook?

Sarah (24:19):
Can you really delete your Facebook account? I don't
know.

Mark (24:23):
I don't think so.

Sarah (24:24):
Once she knew that there wasn't, you know, KGB officials
in Brokenwood, she probably justreactivated it. But before she
dies, she's gonna send a messageto her parents on Facebook.

Mark (24:34):
Micah is his hunch on. He doesn't think this is, an
accident or natural causes here.The biggest actually, let me
restate that. The biggest realproblem I have with this episode
is that everyone, everyone is inKristen's business and needs not
be.

Sarah (24:53):
Yeah. You got a date. Who's that guy?

Mark (24:56):
Everyone is asking her inappropriate questions.

Sarah (25:00):
Yeah. She just needs to say.

Mark (25:02):
I I couldn't believe how much of it. Now do you think
that's a product of the time, orare they trying to say something
with that in this show? Becauseshe reacts in a pleasant but
firm way about it.

Sarah (25:16):
I think it's living in a small town. I I You just learn
to accept it.

Mark (25:21):
Just was like, wow. They are asking her inappropriate
things.

Sarah (25:27):
Well, you know, if she doesn't want that, when she and
Kahu go out on a date, theyshould get out of town.

Mark (25:32):
Well, I do say that Kristen's evasive, but they're a
bit much in my notes.

Sarah (25:37):
I don't know what that means.

Mark (25:39):
Well, she's evasive as to whether or not they're dating.

Sarah (25:43):
She doesn't have to be.

Mark (25:44):
But that's the thing. That's the thing. They're a bit
much. They shouldn't be askingher.

Sarah (25:49):
No. And, you know, I don't know if they're actually
dating.

Mark (25:52):
I don't know either.

Sarah (25:53):
It's funny when Kahu says, do you wanna come in for a
quickie? Yes. He's talking aboutchess.

Mark (25:59):
Frodo is selling real kiwi hot dogs. Are those hot dogs
made out of kiwis? Or Fruit? Idon't know.

Sarah (26:07):
That wouldn't explain what it looks like.

Mark (26:09):
Who was the young lady? Not my oh, she was my
girlfriend.

Sarah (26:12):
I'm not your girlfriend. Kimberly from wherever she is
screams, I'm not his girlfriend.You let him park the truck in
your driveway? Yep. But I'm nothis girlfriend.
I'm not kissing Frodo.

Mark (26:25):
And then Kristen kind of in a weird way is like, do you
think it's botulism from theFrodo dog?

Sarah (26:32):
I was like, no. That would be fast acting botulism.

Mark (26:37):
Some bad dog.

Sarah (26:42):
Bad dog. And this is the first time we see Johnny. We
will see Johnny again.

Mark (26:48):
Yes. Gina has found an injection point.

Sarah (26:51):
And it's not on Harold's neck. No. It's not the fangs.
No. Which is a fairy slap.

Mark (26:57):
Yes.

Sarah (27:00):
Johnny has a tattoo on his chest that says Born to
Ride. Yes. But you never see theBorn. You just see. To ride.
To ride. And I just spent, like,half the episode, the scenes
that he's in going, what couldit say other than born to ride?
Because it's Johnny.

Mark (27:18):
He's just oh, I hate him so much.

Sarah (27:22):
I know.

Mark (27:22):
He's constantly on the make.

Sarah (27:24):
He's so dumb. Yep. And he's on the make, and he's
crude. And plus, he's so dumb.Yes.
He's so dumb. The dumb metergoes all the way around and back
to the beginning again to superdumb.

Mark (27:39):
It's really weird what I'm about to say, but he's too
stupid to be a drug dealer.

Sarah (27:44):
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well and they don't suggest that he's a
drug dealer, just that he runserrands and picks stuff up. You
know? He's a dog's body.
He's not savvy enough toactually be

Mark (27:55):
providing the heroin. How are they getting the money? Why
is Magdalena the main draw?There are so many questions.

Sarah (28:03):
Well, you know, there's a big drug kingpin in Brokenwood,
and it's missus Marlowe, and wejust don't know that yet. So so
Johnny goes

Mark (28:15):
to catch on Harold. She was an old lady selling drugs.

Sarah (28:19):
Yeah. Of course. She puts them in the cheese rolls.
There's a syringe inside thecheese rolls.

Mark (28:24):
Do you think a lot of, older people sell drugs?

Sarah (28:27):
Yes. I do. Oh, okay. Because they're short on cash,
and they have a lot of drugs.

Mark (28:32):
Okay.

Sarah (28:32):
Don't you think?

Mark (28:33):
Well, it's something for me to look forward to.

Sarah (28:35):
I know that their kids and grandkids steal them from
them a lot.

Mark (28:38):
Yeah.

Sarah (28:39):
I've read a lot of stories about that. So if you're
gonna steal it, give me somemoney.

Mark (28:43):
Yeah. Marty's selling miracle cures to somebody we
know.

Sarah (28:48):
Who didn't inherit a golf course, apparently.

Mark (28:51):
Okay. So I went back and listened. The person he he's
using as a plant in the audienceis Nikki. Now, Nikki was in the
golfing episode. She was thedaughter of the woman who was
killed.
Mhmm. Who inherited everything.Mhmm. Including a house. And we
discussed based on the rulesthat were provided in the

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episode, the golf course.

Sarah (29:16):
Mhmm.

Mark (29:17):
Plus, it is stated in that episode that the Stone family,
because Nikki Stone, this is herlast name, owns half the town.
Yeah. So why is Nikki Stoneselling herself for $50 at

Sarah (29:31):
the She's not selling herself.

Mark (29:33):
Sorry. What why is she selling anything for $50?

Sarah (29:38):
Why is she being Marty's plant

Mark (29:40):
Yeah.

Sarah (29:40):
Just to earn $50? And why is she working at the toad and
tadpole frog cheetah lion place?

Mark (29:47):
Yeah. It makes no sense at all.

Sarah (29:50):
How I don't know. How much time has passed? Maybe it's
still tied up in probate, andshe doesn't have it yet.

Mark (29:55):
Maybe. But next step is Or maybe

Sarah (29:58):
she blew it all Maybe. On I don't know what. That would be
a lot of money.

Mark (30:03):
I could think that maybe she was involved in some druggy
stuff.

Sarah (30:07):
What? Why you say that?

Mark (30:08):
She works at a bar and and is willing to pretend to have
acne.

Sarah (30:12):
Oh, you're so judgy. She's broke. She's an orphan,
and she's broke.

Mark (30:16):
Well, she's also in the next episode, bride not to be,
so we might find moreinformation.

Sarah (30:22):
Were you surprised that Magdalena was a drug addict?

Mark (30:25):
No. No. I'm The

Sarah (30:28):
way she acts, like, there's no other explanation
than she's high as a kite.

Mark (30:33):
And we've we always are very good at pointing out people
who are really good actors.Magdalena isn't the best.

Sarah (30:42):
Well, to give her credit, she has to act as if she's a
normal mom who's also a psychicpretending to be a psychic, but
not a psychic and a drug addict.

Mark (30:53):
Yes. That's true.

Sarah (30:54):
All in one. Yeah. That's tough.

Mark (30:57):
It is tough.

Sarah (30:58):
That's like being an actor playing a character who's
a bad actor.

Mark (31:01):
That's hard to do. In a tent.

Sarah (31:03):
But she I mean, from the very first time we see her, she
looks smacked out.

Mark (31:07):
Yeah. Oh,

Sarah (31:08):
you know, reading poems really takes it out of me. Okay.
But you said you'd it's fake.

Mark (31:12):
So how

Sarah (31:13):
so is it or not?

Mark (31:14):
I have to lie down now. Luckily, I have a lounger right
here.

Sarah (31:18):
That couch looks comfortable. I can lay down on
it too. And what's she hidingunder that headband?

Mark (31:25):
Oh.

Sarah (31:26):
Her daughter, Henny, runs the shooting range

Mark (31:30):
Yes.

Sarah (31:31):
Which apparently are like BB guns?

Mark (31:33):
Like Yes. It's a pellet gun.

Sarah (31:34):
Okay. I feel bad for her from the very beginning.

Mark (31:37):
I also feel bad for her because it finds that we find
out that Harold, he's a toucher.

Sarah (31:42):
He's a bad To the extreme. To the

Mark (31:44):
like, I'm gonna get undressed and get into bed with
you with you you even knowing.And it's implied that he's
drugged her.

Sarah (31:51):
And that she's a minor.

Mark (31:52):
Yeah. Like, he's a bad dude.

Sarah (31:55):
So I need your insight on one scene that I wasn't sure how
to read. So the Sims is talkingto Henny.

Mark (32:03):
Yes.

Sarah (32:04):
It's dark. Henny is sitting on the steps of her
trailer. Remember that scene?And Kristen's talking to her.
And Henny asks her somethingabout a boyfriend.
And she says, all all I ask thequestions. Thank you. But the
way Henny asks the first time Isaw it, I thought Henny was gay
and and sussing Kristen out. Oh.But this time, I because I know

(32:28):
because I knew what happened, itwas almost like you mean you
don't have to have a man in yourlife?
Yeah. You're you're independent?

Mark (32:36):
I think it's more like that. And I know that the
actress talks a lot about thatin interviews about how she
really values Sims as anindependent person.

Sarah (32:47):
Mhmm. That makes sense. The whole why they didn't report
it. Yeah. Man, they do such agood job in this episode of of
portraying that hesitancy toreport.
Yeah. Because you're gonna bevictimized if this person goes
to court.

Mark (33:01):
You know?

Sarah (33:02):
They absolutely That's what happens.

Mark (33:03):
They absolutely And

Sarah (33:04):
a lot of women don't report because they don't wanna
go through that. Yeah. I it'ssad. It's true. They do a good
job portraying that reaction.

Mark (33:14):
If you're hit by a car driven by a man, you're a
victim. But if he touches you inthe wrong way,

Sarah (33:21):
you're not. You're a skank. So you were asking for
it.

Mark (33:23):
Oh, it's horrific.

Sarah (33:25):
Why does Simon like octopi so much and squid?

Mark (33:28):
But boy, does he like the marine animals?

Sarah (33:32):
I thought rewatching it that because they say Harold is
like an octopus because hishands are everywhere. And I
thought, are they trying to say,like, Simon has heard people
call Harold the octopus?

Mark (33:45):
I think I think that's what's gonna apply.

Sarah (33:48):
Attached there to that. Yeah. Maybe.

Mark (33:50):
And that's why he hits him. Yeah. I I also think I
remembered wrongly that Ithought Simon was faking it.
Mhmm. And that when he wassitting with Mike talking about
the phone, that he had let onthat he was faking it.

Sarah (34:07):
Yeah. I think you're thinking of another

Mark (34:09):
another show. Else.

Sarah (34:10):
So there's this whole timeline. It's it's another
closed world. Right? Yep. Allthe suspects are the people who
work for the the fair.

Mark (34:19):
And they got the map of the fair.

Sarah (34:21):
Right? And we know that the potassium chloride that
killed Harold would have takenless than a minute to kill him.
Right? So the person who killedhim absolutely got him while he
was on the ghost train.

Mark (34:33):
Yes.

Sarah (34:34):
So the whole question is, who could've who could've been
there? Who has an actual alibiand who doesn't?

Mark (34:40):
Yes.

Sarah (34:41):
Let's talk about Johnny.

Mark (34:42):
Yes.

Sarah (34:43):
K. Johnny's working the ghost train.

Mark (34:45):
But he needs to replace a fuse.

Sarah (34:47):
Realizes the fuse is gone, gets Frodo to take leaves
to get Frodo.

Mark (34:52):
At least tells Frodo don't not to run the ride.

Sarah (34:56):
Fro so Frodo goes back to the ghost train. Johnny goes to
the office trailer to get afuse.

Mark (35:00):
Starts going through the box. Yeah. And at the trailer is
the wife and Harold.

Sarah (35:05):
Yeah. That's when Harold learns that nobody's at the
ghost train except Frodo andgoes stomping off.

Mark (35:11):
Yeah.

Sarah (35:11):
Right? To see Frodo and to to ride the ride.

Mark (35:14):
Well, first, he gets a Frodo dog.

Sarah (35:16):
But he has a Frodo dog in his hand. So Johnny has left the
ride before

Mark (35:20):
Yes.

Sarah (35:20):
To go get a Frodo dog for Harold for no reason whatsoever.

Mark (35:24):
I guess.

Sarah (35:25):
But when he did it, Kimberly says that Johnny bought
the Frodo dog when Frodo wasn'tthere. So how did he So so does
Johnny leave the train to go geta fuse, buy a Frodo dog from
like, send Frodo over to theride, walk around, come back,
buy a Frodo dog, then go to theoffice trailer, find the fuse,

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and give the Frodo dog to Harold

Mark (35:47):
I guess.

Sarah (35:47):
To soften him up for no I don't know why. And then
Harold's like, I'm gonna take myFrodo dog to the ghost train.
And he is wagging his Frodo dogaround. I don't know when Johnny
gets the Frodo dog. He's notsupposed to leave the ghost
train.
He's supposed to be running it.That's why he goes to get Frodo
to stand there for him. And yet,he leaves at least twice. One to

(36:07):
get Frodo and one to get a Frododog.

Mark (36:09):
Well, I know he did. I know how he did it.

Sarah (36:12):
Okay.

Mark (36:12):
If you notice, there are at least a dozen other rides.

Sarah (36:16):
Mhmm.

Mark (36:16):
Let's be conservative and say two people per ride.

Sarah (36:21):
Well, Johnny Johnny runs the ghost train by himself.

Mark (36:23):
There let's say there's 24 other employees at this at this
fair. Now we never see any ofthese.

Sarah (36:30):
No. They don't count.

Mark (36:31):
And it's never explained why they kinda live in
Brokenwood too. Neither of thosetwo things are explained. But
one of those people answered thecall when Johnny said, yo. Go
get me a Frodo dog.

Sarah (36:45):
You think that's what happened? Yes. But then why does
Kimberly say Johnny came to buyit? Because Mike asks her, did
did did your old buy it? And shesays, no.
Johnny did.

Mark (36:54):
The answer is he's not my boyfriend.

Sarah (36:56):
Oh. Bing. Bing. Bing. That's it?
Goes. Johnny gets word thatHarold is down. Yep. And he
comes running. And my favoritebackground actor in the episode,
We get to see this scene severaltimes because they replay

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everybody's alibi and how theygot there over and over again.

Mark (37:22):
There is a direct through line between Ginger Juggalo from
the the Midsummer episode tothis kid.

Sarah (37:30):
Yes. There's an an actor who is apparently racing Johnny
to the ghost train.

Mark (37:36):
I guess.

Sarah (37:37):
It looks like they're running together. We've got a
screenshot of it, and we'll giveyou the time stamp. It's forty
nine minutes and forty oneseconds there about. Johnny
comes busting through the crowdto get to the ghost train, and
this guy is right with him. He'sa larger guy with a red beard
and red mustache, really thickglasses, and a hat, and he's
carrying a soda and a bag ofcandy floss.

Mark (37:58):
A cowboy hat, and he's got a duster on.

Sarah (38:01):
Yeah. And he is, like, keeping up with Johnny just so
he can get shoved. He's, like,the nosiest, fastest fat kid
ever. But because they play thatclip to explain, like,

Mark (38:15):
how everybody came together over.

Sarah (38:17):
Every time they show it, you get to see Johnny shove
ginger beard over Yep. To getthrough the crowd. He's like
prime time background actor.

Mark (38:28):
Cotton candy ginger beer.

Sarah (38:29):
Because he gets to get put in that scene that gets
played over and over again.There's this constant fight
between Daisy Rose and Johnny.

Mark (38:37):
Yes. I don't know why there's a fight. I knew for in
five minutes that Johnny was badnews. Why the heck didn't she?

Sarah (38:46):
Like, she basically let Harold have his way with her in
exchange for a job because shewanted to be with Johnny.

Mark (38:53):
Well and Nikki, let's be honest. Nikki, we thought was a
child in the previous episode isstill kinda a child.

Sarah (39:01):
I think she's old enough to work in a pub, so she's at
least 21 probably.

Mark (39:05):
19 and probably

Sarah (39:07):
Yeah. Daisy is probably in her early twenties, mid
twenties. She's older than thatnow. But Johnny is scum of the
earth. I don't know why anybodywould ever be fooled that he's
not.
Right? So the fact that he'smaking out next to the port a
loos, such a romantic

Mark (39:21):
Excuse me while I go to the port a little with you.

Sarah (39:24):
Yeah. But then we've got the but Johnny flirted with
Kimberly. So Frodo's mad atJohnny, and they're gonna fight
in the frog tadpole cheetahlion. Yeah. You know?
And Frodo says, a cousin doesn'tmow another cousin's lawn.

Mark (39:41):
That was the last episode.

Sarah (39:43):
And Kimberly's like, I'm not your lawn, which is I'm not
your girlfriend.

Mark (39:47):
And also, I'm not your girlfriend.

Sarah (39:50):
Cousin doesn't butter another cousin's crumpet.

Mark (39:53):
Never rub another man's rhubarb.

Sarah (39:56):
Especially if he's your cousin. I'm not surprised that
Frodo and Johnny come from thesame family.

Mark (40:00):
No.

Sarah (40:03):
They they roll real low on intellect.

Mark (40:05):
None of the whole family. None of the posters in the pub
are brand new. We've seen themall.

Sarah (40:11):
Or in the police shop.

Mark (40:12):
Yep. No. It's all new. They still don't know what that
pinball machine is in the officeof that place, though.

Sarah (40:18):
Daisy needs to stop hitting people because she's got
bad aim. She slapped Harold onthe neck, and then she punches
Frodo meaning to punch Johnny.

Mark (40:25):
Poor Frodo gets the punch right to the face.

Sarah (40:27):
I mean, Frodo is, like, six inches shorter than Johnny.
Yeah. And she misses and hitsFrodo in the face. Whammo. Poor
Frodo.

Mark (40:36):
How many times has Frodo been punched in the face this
season?

Sarah (40:41):
Well, I got the black eye boxing.

Mark (40:43):
That's different. That's different.

Sarah (40:45):
Simon has Harold's phone.

Mark (40:47):
Yes. Because he played games on it.

Sarah (40:49):
Yeah. I love that he keeps telling Breen that he's
stupid. It's okay. You're notvery smart. You're stupid.
Breen Breen gets the mostdifficult interviews. Yeah. You
know, he always has to deal withpeople he doesn't wanna deal
with. I don't know how they gotthrough the whole episode, never
letting Simon pick Breen up overhis head just once. Just once.

Mark (41:11):
They should have. And we find out that Roxy is also a
kickboxer.

Sarah (41:16):
Yeah. Because, you know, she's always up to something.

Mark (41:19):
We see that the brother was struck off for malpractice
because apparently he's sellingred herrings.

Sarah (41:27):
Mhmm.

Mark (41:28):
He's he's selling stuff he shouldn't have.

Sarah (41:30):
Well, he says he swiped drugs for his mom when she while
she was dying.

Mark (41:34):
Wouldn't everybody do that?

Sarah (41:35):
No. No. You know, they're just around and your mom's in
pain, so you just, you know,grab some stuff. It's fine.

Mark (41:43):
Like, would I call a doctor and make a special
request to a doctor that mymom's in pain? Yes.

Sarah (41:51):
And maybe they might react a bit quicker because they
know you because you're apharmacist. Possibly. I think
Magdalena should be dead too.

Mark (41:59):
Yeah.

Sarah (42:00):
Why do you think?

Mark (42:01):
Well, she's ingested a large amount of cocaine. Or
whatever she's injecting. Andsorry. Heroin. But also, I don't
think that Sandra, who was ourkiller, would have cleaned that
needle.

Sarah (42:15):
Yeah. That's what I was thinking. These kinds of shows
often have unrealistic murders.Right?

Mark (42:22):
And unrealistic portrayals of actual hard crime.

Sarah (42:26):
Yeah. Like, that wouldn't kill them or you couldn't do it
that way. You know?

Mark (42:31):
Or, like, this body's been here a week, and it looks like
they just died.

Sarah (42:35):
We have to suspend disbelief a lot. But Sandra is
in the dark. Harold is moving.Potassium has to be injected
intravenously. Yes.
And she empties an entiresyringe while hitting a vein
while he's moving and doesn'tleave the syringe in his arm.

Mark (42:55):
No. And then escapes back out, undresses because she's
dressed as the bride.

Sarah (43:00):
Well, she just puts the dress and mask back on the stand
that it was on already. Yeah.Goes back to Magdalena's and
puts that dull ass syringe backin her case.

Mark (43:09):
No. No. She she cleans it first.

Sarah (43:12):
Which is why I think next time Magdalena shoots up, she's
gonna get a whole bunch ofpotassium.

Mark (43:17):
See, that would be a that would have been a good way to
have a second murder and make itinteresting. It would

Sarah (43:25):
have been easy to dismiss because they would have said,
well, Magdalena had a drughabit, obviously, but she had a
heart attack. Well, heroinaddicts have heart attacks.
Yeah. But her potassium levelwas high. Dun dun dun dun dun.
Then we could have talked aboutwho did that body best body is.
We never get to do that becausethey only ever have one. So
let's re recap.

Mark (43:45):
Harold is providing drugs to Magdalena.

Sarah (43:48):
Mhmm.

Mark (43:48):
He is molesting her daughter.

Sarah (43:51):
Mhmm. He

Mark (43:51):
is probably short shifting everybody, in terms of this
carnival in terms of pay. Mhmm.He gives Johnny a triumph
motorcycle, but keeps it in hisname.

Sarah (44:06):
So that he can run drugs. Abuses Daisy in exchange for a
job.

Mark (44:12):
Yep. And

Sarah (44:13):
All while he's married to Sandra, which is why she left
him.

Mark (44:17):
Yeah. And she left him, but he's still so she's still so
angry that she kills him, whichis weird. Like, why not just
leave? What's the incitingfactor?

Sarah (44:27):
What pushes her over the edge now?

Mark (44:29):
Because it's it come Magdalena says he's still doing
it.

Sarah (44:33):
Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. And and Sanders just had enough. I think
Sandra feels responsible forhim.

Mark (44:40):
I think so.

Sarah (44:42):
You know, she doesn't leave because she can't stand
the idea of leaving all thesevulnerable people with him.
Yeah. So she's not gonna goanywhere. But then she's like,
he's gotta go. I Yeah.
I can't allow this to happenanymore. Yeah. And to be fair,
the way she does it shouldn'thave implicated anybody else.
It's not like she framedsomebody and somebody else was

(45:03):
gonna go down for it. It shouldhave looked like natural causes.
Yeah. Which it could have easilybeen. And then

Mark (45:09):
Mike didn't have a nose.

Sarah (45:11):
It would be fine. Well, if the fairy hadn't slapped him
in the neck Yes. I don't thinkanybody would've would've done
it would've caught it.

Mark (45:18):
It's it was the snake toy. With the rubber fangs.

Sarah (45:25):
Nobody's thinking that snake bit him. It's it is I know
it's true, but there are nosnakes in New Zealand, and
that's weird to me. Yeah. Like,you can't even have a pet snake
in New Zealand.

Mark (45:34):
So Mike figures things out, brings everybody together,
explains what happened, and theyarrest the killer.

Sarah (45:42):
Meanwhile, well, back twenty minutes or so, Gina,
bring bring, Mike, what is yourfavorite song? Thank you. Bye.

Mark (45:48):
Thank you. Bye.

Sarah (45:49):
Then, Then apparently, she spends the rest of the
episode practicing so that shecan sing at the karaoke. Because
this episode needs some karaoke.Please help me. I'm falling.

Mark (46:00):
What is your go to karaoke song?

Sarah (46:02):
I don't have one.

Mark (46:02):
You don't have a go to karaoke?

Sarah (46:04):
I've never sang karaoke.

Mark (46:05):
You never sang oh my gosh. I don't know what we're doing
tonight.

Sarah (46:09):
No. We're not. We're not. What's yours?

Mark (46:12):
Wanted Dead or Alive or Tainted Love.

Sarah (46:17):
Those are your two choices.

Mark (46:18):
I've done both. Tainted love, my friend, Clint, and I
were well known for doingtainted love as a duet.

Sarah (46:26):
I I think if you and I were gonna do karaoke together,
we would have to do she blindedme with science.

Mark (46:32):
Oh.

Sarah (46:32):
And I would sing the regular things, and you could do
the she blinded me

Mark (46:37):
with science. The interjections. Spike
interjections. Yes. There's adeep cut.

Sarah (46:43):
And we would get super applause. Yes. I think so. Your
poetry in motion. Oh.
Oh.

Mark (46:52):
Is there a song you would never do on karaoke? Like, that
you

Sarah (46:56):
The rose or wind beneath my wings.

Mark (46:59):
Yeah. Those are bad.

Sarah (47:00):
Stab Me in the Eyeballs. Yeah. I'm not against Bette
Midler. That's not it. No.
Those two songs make me wannahurl.

Mark (47:07):
White Snake.

Sarah (47:09):
Which White Snake?

Mark (47:11):
Here I Go Again.

Sarah (47:13):
See, I think you could sing that sardonically if you
wanted to and have fun with it.

Mark (47:18):
But haven't found the guy on Instagram, the Scottish guy
who does dramatic song readingsOh, he's hilarious. To find him,
I'll put him in the show notes.

Sarah (47:28):
He's so funny. Fantastic. He's so he's so serious.

Mark (47:35):
He does live in on a prayer that it's it's like it
it's like worked on the docks.It's like

Sarah (47:44):
James Joyce. Down on his luck. It's tough. It's really
tough. We're halfway there.

Mark (47:50):
He takes a drink. Oh, he's fantastic.

Sarah (47:52):
Gina worked the diner all day. You you all don't know
this, but in our family, Mark isfamous. Famous is and among a
very small group for doingdramatic readings of song lyrics
that all started with Beyonce.Yes. I slay.
I slay all day. I slay.

Mark (48:15):
It comes out.

Sarah (48:16):
He read it like doctor Seuss. It was hilarious.

Mark (48:18):
Doctor Seuss.

Sarah (48:21):
And now he has to do dramatic readings on a regular
basis to entertain us all. Sothat is scared to death. Next
week. When do you think Johnnybought the Frodo dog? Tell us.

Mark (48:35):
Yes.

Sarah (48:35):
It's still a mystery to me, and I wanna know.

Mark (48:38):
What is in a Frodo dog?

Sarah (48:40):
Have you ever had one? Make a Frodo dog. No. What are

Mark (48:44):
I don't wanna have people have poisoned themselves.

Sarah (48:47):
What are your 11 herbs and spices?

Mark (48:51):
Which is a total goof on fried chicken.

Sarah (48:54):
Now they do have those. I think they're Japanese or
Korean, like the bonito flakeYes. Corn dogs and stuff.
There's some gourmet corn dogsout there, and I like a corn
dog. I think they're good.

Mark (49:05):
I don't like hot dogs.

Sarah (49:06):
I don't care what's in it. I don't think about that.
But I would not eat a Frodo dog.

Mark (49:10):
Too many as a kid. Yes. Madonna could cook a mean hot
dog.

Sarah (49:14):
Boiled hot dog.

Mark (49:15):
Boiled hot dog.

Sarah (49:17):
Dog. Next next week, we get to do bride not to be.

Mark (49:22):
Bride not to be. There's a a, b and b and a lot of brides
and ladies in the water andbridal gowns and all sorts of
things.

Sarah (49:32):
You gotta love a wedding murder.

Mark (49:33):
And Nikki. We gotta hopefully, we'll find out more
about Nikki's backstory.

Sarah (49:38):
We gotta hunt Nikki down. What happened to the money,
Nikki?

Mark (49:42):
Where the fuck? Show us the money, Nikki.

Sarah (49:45):
Where did you put that money? Why does her shirt just
say thank you thank you thankyou thank you all over it with
flowers?

Mark (49:51):
I don't know.

Sarah (49:52):
The one that she's got on in the bar just says thank you
thank you thank

Mark (49:54):
you thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Sarah (49:56):
You're welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. I got there
before you.
Well, until next week. Remember,it's better to perish here than
kill all those poor beans. Yes.Bye, maniacs.

Mark (50:08):
Bye, maniacs. Thanks for joining us on the Mystery
Maniacs podcast. If you enjoyedour crazy podcast today, don't
miss out on future episodes.Follow us on social media for
updates, beyond the scenescontent, and exclusive sneak
peeks. Subscribe, like, andshare to spread the word.
Bye, maniacs. Sarah'sgrandmother has not been has not

(50:30):
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