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Mark (00:00):
It's very cute. I'll put a picture of a more pork.

Sarah (00:19):
Hey, maniacs.

Mark (00:20):
Hey, mystery maniacs. Mystery maniacs is a comedy
recap podcast dedicated to themystery TV. Each week, we dig
into an episode of a showincluding the murders, the
mayhem, the loonies, andeverything else we love this
week. The Brokenwood Mystery'sshot of love season nine episode

(00:40):
five.

Sarah (00:41):
Wait.

Mark (00:42):
Stop the podcast.

Sarah (00:44):
Something very important has happened. Finally.

Mark (00:48):
Who could have predicted this? Me.

Sarah (00:52):
New Midsummer Murders are coming.

Mark (00:55):
Yes. The return of Midsummer Maniacs. Season twenty
five episodes one, two, three,and four dropping on Acorn in
the month of December.

Sarah (01:08):
Woo hoo.

Mark (01:09):
December, and twenty ninth. Nice. There are four
episodes. One called the firstone called Treasures of
Darkness, which is about mudlurkers.

Sarah (01:21):
People who dig through mud at the edge of bodies of
water when the tide is low tofind antiquities?

Mark (01:28):
Yes. See episode two, Lawn of the Dead. About lawn bowling.

Sarah (01:38):
No. Really?

Mark (01:39):
Yes. Season twenty five episode three, Death Strikes
Three in which a cuckoo clock isbooby trapped and kills a guest.
Don't know how that works.

Sarah (01:52):
There's one pointed booby.

Mark (01:54):
That is. And then finally, top of the class.

Sarah (01:58):
Wait a minute. Why did I say booby? Booby. One pointed
cuckoo.

Mark (02:02):
Yes. We'll get to boobies later.

Sarah (02:07):
Speaking of birds. Top of the class.

Mark (02:10):
Someone gets brutally murdered at a PTA meeting, which
is kinda like normal. Yeah.Well, that happens all the time.
So if you're new here, this iswhat we do. Because we started
as a Midsummer podcast.

Sarah (02:23):
Mhmm. And then we ran out of Midsummer's, which we thought
would never happen.

Mark (02:27):
Out of Midsummer's. And we quickly called them up on the
phone and said

Sarah (02:31):
Make more Midsummer's.

Mark (02:32):
Make more Midsummers.

Sarah (02:33):
So what we do when there are new episodes,

Mark (02:36):
if

Sarah (02:36):
you've not been around for this, is that we make a mini
episode that is spoiler free.Yes. But it teaches you how to
watch like a maniac.

Mark (02:47):
So we watch the episode on the day it releases, of course.

Sarah (02:51):
And we'll give you a list of things to look for

Mark (02:53):
Yep.

Sarah (02:54):
When you watch it.

Mark (02:55):
Now these minis are about twenty minutes. Max. They're
super super

Sarah (02:59):
You watch it. You listen to it before you watch the new
episode.

Mark (03:03):
Then you watch the new episode.

Sarah (03:04):
We'll release a mini for all four new episodes, and then
we will release full episodes oneach of the new episodes.

Mark (03:13):
Now I know for a fact that some of our listeners cheat.
They watch the episode, thenthey listen to the mini, and
then they watch the episodeagain.

Sarah (03:21):
That's okay.

Mark (03:22):
That's okay. Those will begin the week of the eighth.
Now it's December, and it's Markand Sarah. We're a little
bitchy.

Sarah (03:31):
Is that a square on the bingo card that we say we're
busy?

Mark (03:35):
Yes. It is a square on the bingo card. So what I'm telling
you is the week of the eighth offifteenth, the twenty second,
and the twenty ninth, somewherein that magical time period of
that week, we will release themini.

Sarah (03:47):
Before the next one is released? Yes. Yeah. So once a
week, we'll release the mini.And then when those are done,
we'll do full episodes on allfour episodes.

Mark (03:56):
Which I predict will start the January 5. Again, all this
is tentative. And then we'll

Sarah (04:02):
go back to Brokenwood. Yes. Season ten.

Mark (04:04):
Wow. New Midsummers. It's crazy.

Sarah (04:08):
But we watched a trailer that kinda gives away some of
the murder methods.

Mark (04:13):
Yes.

Sarah (04:13):
And they look fun, especially the cuckoo clock

Mark (04:16):
or

Sarah (04:16):
or the booby clock apparently is what my head
thought it was.

Mark (04:19):
They they do and there is lots of Facebook groups to talk
about midsummer that you couldjoin and talk about midsummer
there. But I do recommend themidsummer subreddit. 9,500
people strong. We're almost at10,000 of hardcore Midsommar
fans. Who respect spoileralerts.

(04:39):
Yes. Hardcore. I put spoilerthreads at the top of all the
threads for these episodes sothat you don't accidentally step
in where you're not supposed tobe.

Sarah (04:50):
Because we know not everybody gets acorn and not
everybody will see these at thesame time. We don't want to ruin
it for anybody.

Mark (04:56):
Yes. Why do we not live in England? Why? Because on the
April 11

Sarah (05:02):
Well, I mean there's lots of reasons why we don't. I wish
sometimes I wish we did.

Mark (05:06):
A tour quay on the English Riviera is the spring gathering
of the Agatha Christie filmAgatha Christie festival.
Ticket's on sale now. They'rehaving a costume contest.

Sarah (05:20):
I don't know if I would like that, to be honest. I think
I would feel intimidated.

Mark (05:24):
I think I would have a blast.

Sarah (05:27):
I tried the Poirot puzzles in that book and felt
like I'd never read or watched aPoirot before. I can only
imagine the people who go tothat festival are serious
hardcore fans.

Mark (05:39):
There's a podcast called Christie in the sixties, which
is a fun kind of what Christiedid in the sixties and how it
relates to the sixties. They'redoing a live podcast there

Sarah (05:51):
That's awesome.

Mark (05:52):
That that I I would also definitely suggest. And I think
now that you you mentioned thatthe author of that Poirot quiz
book might be there also. So ifyou live in England

Sarah (06:05):
Maybe Anthony Horowitz will be there.

Mark (06:07):
Yeah. Whatever. You should go. Yes. Our Brokenwood did so
well this week.
There was the New Zealand ScreenAward.

Sarah (06:16):
Yeah. And Tim Baum won best screenplay for Odes to
Christmas.

Mark (06:21):
Yes.

Sarah (06:21):
Directed funniest by Brokenwood episode Directed

Mark (06:25):
by Katie Wolfe, who he called his soulmate. So I guess
there's something going onthere.

Sarah (06:29):
Or they're just really best friends. I don't know.

Mark (06:32):
I don't know. He kinda make kissy kiss sounds. And I
wanna show

Sarah (06:36):
It's hard to say soul mate and make kissy kiss sounds
at the same time.

Mark (06:40):
It's I do wanna also shout out that they also won best
makeup design for Kev Duffy. Hedoes some amazing dead body
makeup. We mentioned it lastepisode.

Sarah (06:52):
Mhmm.

Mark (06:53):
So I think that all we are fans of all those people in the
background and good job, Kev.

Sarah (07:00):
Way to go whole cast, whole

Mark (07:01):
Yep. Whole crew. Absolutely. Well, this episode
Sarah is two episodes, one lameepisode and one decent episode.
It's called Shot of Love which Ihate the title.

Sarah (07:15):
Yeah. It's

Mark (07:16):
it's it's not very good. It's written by Tim Baum, and
even though he won the writingaward this week, I'm gonna say
this is not his best episode.

Sarah (07:26):
I wonder about the title. Yeah. Because spoiler, we spoil
the episode. You have beenwarned. We are about to talk
about the murder.
Yes. In some countries, to beshot of something is to be rid
of it. Yes. So shot of lovecould mean to be rid of love.

Mark (07:44):
It could it could.

Sarah (07:45):
Which Mike is Yes. Because Beth leaves. Well Never
to be seen again.

Mark (07:51):
So let's deal with the horrible cliche thing at the
beginning.

Sarah (07:56):
You wanna talk about Mike and Beth first and then talk
about the murder plot? Yes.Okay.

Mark (08:00):
Because the murder plot is much more interesting to me.

Sarah (08:03):
Yes. It is.

Mark (08:04):
There's two parts to this. This is this mirrors the episode
in which he met Beth.

Sarah (08:11):
Mhmm.

Mark (08:11):
Where there was the the Mike story and then the other
story. Mhmm. So, the Mike storyis that they drive really
forever.

Sarah (08:22):
Eight whole hours.

Mark (08:23):
Eight whole hour. I heard he goes, we drove four hours,
eight hours. We got up at 4AM.I'm like, dude, why did you not
drive there in the afternoonwhen you first heard about Beth
wanting to get married? Yeah.
Like eight hours That day.Nothing said the people who live
in the giant country.

Sarah (08:43):
Well, we just drove to Detroit and back in a few days.
Yes. That wasn't it wasn't bad.Yes. So But you're good company
in the car.

Mark (08:52):
I try to be. Well, okay. So Beth is good company on the
way and she admits that sheprobably wouldn't be good
company on the way back. I thinkshe's right. And then she says,
eight hours in an uncomfortablesilence is not a good way to
drive.
Awkward. And then I said, Iknow.

Sarah (09:13):
Not with me.

Mark (09:13):
No. Not with Sarah. I was at camp with the school that I I
taught at for a few years and achild had to be removed from
camp and go home early forImmediately. A of reasons.

Sarah (09:28):
And you were nominated to drive said child all the way
home Yes. From Washington DC?

Mark (09:34):
Yes. Ten hours in the car, he may have said three words.

Sarah (09:39):
I bet.

Mark (09:40):
I listened to a book. Yeah.

Sarah (09:42):
I would have too. Yeah. This so they The thing with Mike
and Beth is that Mike is stillmarried. Yes. And no, he's not a
Mormon or a bigamist.
Yes. Gina. He is Mormon?

Mark (09:54):
He's bigamist?

Sarah (09:55):
I didn't know he and Beth got married. He's Now could he
be getting divorced? So he needsto track down his most recent ex
wife to actually get the divorcepaper signed. And she has given
him the runaround. I think heprobably just gave up five years
ago or whenever it was that theysplit up because she was just

(10:19):
too much of a pain in the ass.
And he just was like, whatever.I just wanna be rid of you.

Mark (10:24):
To me, one of the things that bothers me about this
subplot in this episode is itkinda looks like they drove down
the street from Brokenwood andthey're still in Brokenwood. And
she has this large house, whichis supposedly free of plastics.
By the way, it's not. I'll getto that. And she, like, she just

(10:48):
seems like she lives slightlyout of town.
And I would have wanted more,like, trekking through the
wilderness.

Sarah (10:55):
Oh, think they should have had to go on walkabout to
get somewhere? So when they getto the hotel, the hotel is being
run by Marcus Yes. Who ran a fewhotel establishments. He ran

Mark (11:06):
the Druggy Hotel.

Sarah (11:07):
Yeah. In Brokenwood and has now moved on to Lost Valley.
Is that what

Mark (11:11):
it's called? It's called Lost Valley.

Sarah (11:12):
And he's really happy to see Mike. He seems genuinely
happy to see Mike. And he says,oh, you're here to see Tabitha.
And he says, you know aboutTabitha? He's like, everybody
knows about Tabitha.
How did you interpret that?

Mark (11:24):
Then Why? That she annoys everybody. And then he tells
Mike. Mike tells him that he wasmarried to her. He's like He's
like, oh.

Sarah (11:33):
But then Marcus gives Beth a carton of milk. Yeah.
What is that?

Mark (11:39):
I don't know.

Sarah (11:41):
He hands her a little Maybe it's for tea? Paper
carton. Yeah. Which I associatewith, like, the size of paper
carton you get with your milk inschool. Yeah.
Maybe that's is it for tea fortheir room?

Mark (11:55):
Maybe tea for their room.

Sarah (11:56):
Okay. I'll I'll go with that. That makes more sense than
anything else I imagined couldbe in that carton that wasn't
milk.

Mark (12:02):
So then we meet Tabitha, who is as horrible as we think
she is.

Sarah (12:07):
You think she's horrible? Why is she horrible?

Mark (12:11):
She is well, I think she's horrible as a character because
Beth should know all of thisabout Mike. She should know how
Mike is.

Sarah (12:22):
Okay. Because Tabitha takes every opportunity to be
alone with Beth to fill her inon Mike. Mike is obsessed with
his job and will always besecond.

Mark (12:31):
And she keeps things that would place Mike in a better
light away from Beth. Mhmm.Like, the story of her mother's
funeral is upsetting to Beth, asI understand. But Beth should
know already that that's whatMike is like. Mhmm.
And that she left out a wholebunch of details. The problem I

(12:55):
have with the whole storyline isthis. If you are a police person
and you cannot let your job goand you do all sorts of crazy
things like Barnaby and Mike do,which are always played off for
laughs. Mhmm. In reality, thatperson cannot exist because they

(13:17):
would burn out long ago.
Right. Like, that person youhave to when you're a cop, you
have to understand boundaries.There is just no way around it.

Sarah (13:29):
Unless, like Mike, that's the life you opt for, which is
why none of his marriages haveworked out. Because he does
choose to be a cop first and aperson second.

Mark (13:41):
Which I agree with, which he should have known. And when
Beth came around, he should havetold her. Beth, I'm not saying
Beth is at fault here. Mike isclearly at fault. Mike makes
some big mistakes.
But you

Sarah (13:53):
think Tabitha is bad?

Mark (13:55):
I think Tabitha is meddling, and she doesn't need
to meddle.

Sarah (13:59):
I forgot from when we had seen this episode before that he
basically ditches Beth withTabitha because he gets caught
up thinking about a crime sceneand goes back to the hotel

Mark (14:12):
room and just leaves her there. At first, Tabitha gets
him running errands. Right. Butthen he ditches her. That's
Mike's problem.

Sarah (14:20):
She has to hitch a ride with some hippie in a polka
dotted car to

Mark (14:23):
get What is that dude in the polka dotted car?

Sarah (14:27):
Just another person who washes up in Lost Valley.

Mark (14:29):
Mom, I gotta part. And boy, this entire episode is full
as a cowboy bar full of mom,mom, I gotta part.

Sarah (14:39):
I think that Tabitha's meddling until he does that.
Yeah. And he he voluntarilyproves her absolutely right.

Mark (14:50):
Yes.

Sarah (14:51):
Yes, Beth should know. Yes, Beth would have come to
that conclusion on her own. ButI think that Tabitha is well
written, and is very careful,and really is trying to do
something to spare somebody elsethe pain that she went through
and realizing this is who he is.And if you can't deal with that,

(15:12):
then don't marry him. And Bethrealizes when she finds him in
the hotel room, she's not Okaywith it.
She has to choose, and shechooses not to be Okay with it.

Mark (15:22):
I understand all of that. She should have chosen that long
before now.

Sarah (15:26):
But Tabitha needs to be slapped with a plastic pen and
say, sign it, bitch. But

Mark (15:32):
Tabitha takes the pen and empties it. Yeah. That is a
problem. Yeah. Like, I wouldbeen like, here is a pencil.
By the way, your lights havebulbs, which are made of
plastic. They're glass. No. Theoutside lights.

Sarah (15:48):
Oh. Sign it in blood. I don't care.

Mark (15:50):
I do not care. Sign that document.

Sarah (15:52):
Stop holding me hostage, you bully.

Mark (15:54):
This is why this is why and we're experienced in this
area, divorce is not like this.You don't have to hunt somebody
down to get a signature.

Sarah (16:04):
If they won't sign it after a certain amount of time.

Mark (16:06):
It's just, yeah.

Sarah (16:08):
I don't know. I don't know New Zealand law.

Mark (16:10):
I don't know New Zealand law either, but

Sarah (16:12):
But in the end, it's for the best, think, that Beth and
Mike split. I think heunderstands that. I think she
understands that. Yep. I don'tlike that Tabitha gets to think
that she was right and that shewon.

Mark (16:23):
I don't like that.

Sarah (16:24):
But he's free of her now, and she can go have her tubers
with multiple crowns.

Mark (16:32):
Now he needs to understand that he's he's not retirement
age yet. That's the other thing.I'm I'm like, Mike has ten years
in him at least.

Sarah (16:41):
Yeah.

Mark (16:42):
But he has to figure out that when he retires, he can't
do this stuff, and he's gonna beon his own. Mhmm. And who's
gonna help you move then?

Sarah (16:52):
There won't be anything left. Yeah. Because it's all he
has. Yeah. Okay.

Mark (16:56):
Which again, I find is like, Mike is far more level
headed than that.

Sarah (17:03):
Maybe maybe this is the moment when he has to confront
that and figure that out.

Mark (17:07):
Maybe.

Sarah (17:07):
Okay. Ready to talk about people getting shot in the tank?
Yes. Okay. The important story.
There are bad people who getkilled in Brokenwood and all
other mystery shows, right?People who are asking for it.
Yep. Legitimate reasons whysomebody might actually want
that person dead. There arepeople who have betrayed other

(17:28):
people.
This poor man has done nothingto deserve this, and it is so
incredibly senseless. And thisis why I don't bungee jump. I
don't ever want my kids to haveto tell other people my mom died
because she went bungee jumping.It is such a stupid way to die.

Mark (17:46):
And like, it's not

Sarah (17:47):
He's not taking a risk, by the way, but it's such an
embarrassing way. Like, hiswidow has to tell his kids Your

Mark (17:55):
dad got shot in the taint.

Sarah (17:56):
On accident.

Mark (17:57):
On accident.

Sarah (17:59):
That's so awkward.

Mark (18:00):
Like I can understand, it's not my thing, but I can
understand people needing timeapart. You know? That's not how
People go on separate trips.

Sarah (18:10):
That's not how we resolve issues between us.

Mark (18:13):
But different people do different things. Yep. And it
works.

Sarah (18:16):
Yep. And he's just going to the hotel in town. He's not
and he's not fooling around.He's not doing anything wrong.

Mark (18:22):
I personally think he's driven insane by the house of
his wisteria because that houseis covered in wisteria.

Sarah (18:30):
Maybe he's driven insane by the commercials on the TV.
Erector magic, greater goodthrough greater wood.

Mark (18:40):
What? What? That's a Tim Baum special right there.

Sarah (18:45):
Yeah. He's just he's just lying in bed watching TV.

Mark (18:49):
Yes. And Aitken has to go in and find him. It's awful.
Yep. It's so bad.
They think it's a heart attackat first and they realize that
he has blood in his perineumarea.

Sarah (19:02):
Like, smaller than the size of a penny. Don't even know
how they noticed it. If he'd haddark pants on, probably wouldn't
have.

Mark (19:08):
Probably wouldn't have.

Sarah (19:10):
Gina shows up, and though she doesn't allow anybody else
to hypothesize, she startshypothesizing

Mark (19:17):
Yes.

Sarah (19:17):
That he's had blunt force trauma to his perineum or has
been repeatedly kicked in theprivate parts by a prostitute
wearing steel tipped cowboyboots.

Mark (19:26):
Why does it have to be a prostitute? It's so specific.
It's very specific. Now I'm notsure what our listeners are
into. If that is your thing,

Sarah (19:38):
go kicked in the crotch by a prostitute and stealing
coward. Whatever. That's anunhealthy thing to be.

Mark (19:44):
That's an unhealthy thing. I believe that too. Okay?

Sarah (19:48):
But but they're kinda stuck. Right? Because it's they
can't figure out how that wouldhave happened. Yep. He's in a
hotel room alone.
I mean, okay. You're a man.

Mark (19:58):
Yes.

Sarah (19:59):
You have these parts.

Mark (20:00):
Yes.

Sarah (20:01):
Can you imagine a scenario in which that would
happen by accident?

Mark (20:05):
And I can't imagine a scenario in the, hotel room. You
asked me about this, and I thinkthe closest I've seen was I saw
a terrible water skiing accidentwhere a young man skidded across
the water as he collapsed andfell and ran into the end of a

(20:25):
dock. With his legs spread? Withhis legs

Sarah (20:27):
spread. Oh. Oh. I

Mark (20:33):
think he caught the doc, so it only Grazed him? Grazed
him, but he was definitely in alot of pain.

Sarah (20:40):
Oh. Yep. I don't even have those bits, and I oh. But
this guy's in a hotel roomalone.

Mark (20:49):
Yeah. What could

Sarah (20:49):
he be I mean, is he practicing parkour in his hotel
room or something? I'm gonnajump off the bed onto the TV
stand go over this chair thatI've turned upside down, and
land on the table.

Mark (21:01):
No. No. Oh, yeah. It's two okay. I got two ideas.
Okay. Okay. The first one is hewas trying to do skateboarding
tricks.

Sarah (21:10):
Without a skateboard?

Mark (21:11):
Like, was trying to get the skateboard to go under the
chair as he jumped over it andhe landed on one of the chair
legs. Maybe? And then theskateboard went under the bed,
which we know no one looks underthe bed, or he was playing
Flora's Lava.

Sarah (21:32):
That's something to keep you busy in a hotel room alone
Yes. When your wife has said,you need to go away for a little
while.

Mark (21:40):
I'm going to go play the floor is lava.

Sarah (21:42):
Floor is lava? Did did he think that upturned chair was a
good thing to land on?

Mark (21:47):
I I don't. Well, maybe he maybe he wanted to up the game,
up the level. Right?

Sarah (21:54):
I need to increase the difficulty of Floor Lava. I'm
gonna put hazards in my way. IfI slip, I could impale myself on
this chair leg. High stakes gameof Floor is Lava. Yeah.
Did you play that as a kid?

Mark (22:10):
I played Floor is Lava by myself as a kid, but yes, I did.

Sarah (22:14):
I played Floor is really, really cold, so I'm gonna throw
things onto the floor and andwalk on them when at night.

Mark (22:21):
See, my parents had no concept of room decoration, so
all items were moved to thesides of the room. So I just
made laps.

Sarah (22:31):
Oh.

Mark (22:32):
It was pretty easy.

Sarah (22:33):
Yeah. It's not fun. So Did you have red carpet? No.
Cause that would have made it

Mark (22:38):
No. Really cool. But we did have This is in the rec room
of my parents' house, which hadsaloon doors and a wet bar and
giant Tijuana Mickey bottles.They were like this high, like
three feet high. It was veryseventies.
There was paneling involved, butit also had one of those poles

(23:01):
that holds up the house. Mhmm.But my parents covered it, of
course, in carpet.

Sarah (23:06):
That was to keep you from bashing your head on it. I'm
sure one of your older siblingsprobably knocked themselves out
on it, they were like, maybe weshould wrap carpet around that.
He's dead in his room Yes. Withblood on his crotch. Yes.
He's not been kicked by aprostitute. No. They've gotta
figure out what happened.

Mark (23:23):
Yes. And they have some clues. The first clue

Sarah (23:26):
is a pizza receipt. You took a close look at it, didn't
you?

Mark (23:30):
Did you see what was on the bottom?

Sarah (23:31):
I took a photo of it.

Mark (23:33):
Before they say it in the episode.

Sarah (23:35):
Super taste, super fast, superman.

Mark (23:37):
Is on the bottom of the receipt.

Sarah (23:39):
What I found most offensive was that their
delivery fee is $7.99.

Mark (23:43):
Yes. It's

Sarah (23:44):
In a town the size of Brokenwood, how dare they charge
$8 delivery fee?

Mark (23:49):
They gotta pay for the world's greatest vehicle
somehow.

Sarah (23:53):
And the costume, I guess.

Mark (23:56):
So it's the

Sarah (23:57):
It's not cheap pizza either.

Mark (23:58):
The pizza is $27.98 New Zealand dollars. Do you know
what that is, American? No. It's$16.00 3 American.

Sarah (24:06):
Oh, well that's not

Mark (24:06):
too Which is not bad.

Sarah (24:08):
No. So it's a $4 delivery? Yeah. Okay. I'll let
it go then.
I was like, that's reallyexpensive. Because Ray has
leaned fully in on a PorkyPigeon He's themed pizzas.

Mark (24:24):
Now did you notice? I don't know if you noticed this,
but the Porky Pigeon isobviously filmed in an actual
restaurant.

Sarah (24:31):
Mhmm.

Mark (24:31):
And they have Porky Pigeon stuff around on the walls and
stuff. Mhmm. And, oh my gosh,Ray has that t shirt.

Sarah (24:39):
The logo is great with that sack.

Mark (24:41):
I want a Porky Pigeon t shirt so bad.

Sarah (24:44):
It's awfully cute. They

Mark (24:49):
then, if you look really closely, you see the rest of the
stuff.

Sarah (24:55):
I like the map of Italy.

Mark (24:56):
Like the map of Italy, and there's like all sorts of
Italian food that is not pizza.

Sarah (25:03):
Yeah. But it's that's kinda like a tip typical small
town Italian restaurant Yeah.Pizza joint.

Mark (25:09):
I guess.

Sarah (25:09):
The red and white checkered tablecloths. We talked
about those. You

Mark (25:12):
know? Chalmers has an idea of what he was doing in the in
the hotel. Well, let

Sarah (25:16):
I'm not done talking about pizza yet though because
Ray has discovered there's beenan increase in business since
he's come up with bird themednames for the pizzas.

Mark (25:25):
Superhero bird themed name pizzas, he says.

Sarah (25:28):
The Blackbird Supreme

Mark (25:30):
Yes.

Sarah (25:31):
And the Iron Duckman.

Mark (25:33):
Yes. So that's supposed to be like Iron Man.

Sarah (25:36):
But what is on a Blackbird Supreme, you think?

Mark (25:39):
I

Sarah (25:39):
Is it just a supreme pizza?

Mark (25:41):
I do not know.

Sarah (25:41):
So it's got all the meats and veggies on it?

Mark (25:43):
I I guess. Maybe?

Sarah (25:45):
Well, I couldn't help but come up with other ones.

Mark (25:48):
I also came up with

Sarah (25:49):
other ones. We kind of challenge each other to do this,
Yes. Don't Okay. So mine, I wastrying to think, I was like,
pepperoni. What could bepepperoni?
Because that's probably the mostcommon thing that people order.

Mark (26:01):
Yes.

Sarah (26:01):
And I was like, Tube bird? No, like, that doesn't
work. So I thought, well, itstarts with a P, so I'll call it
a double puffin'.

Mark (26:11):
A double puffin?

Sarah (26:12):
Yeah, that's like a double pepperoni.

Mark (26:14):
It's a

Sarah (26:14):
double puffin. Okay. Yeah. Okay. What do you got?

Mark (26:17):
Okay, my first one, because I got

Sarah (26:20):
I got two.

Mark (26:21):
I got three.

Sarah (26:22):
Okay.

Mark (26:22):
My first one is the

Sarah (26:24):
blue booby. The blue booby? Yes. We did get back to
boobies.

Mark (26:28):
We get

Sarah (26:29):
What's a blue booby?

Mark (26:30):
It's got blue cheese and steak on it.

Sarah (26:32):
Oh. That sounds kind of good.

Mark (26:34):
Yeah. Like with the white sauce, that wouldn't be a bad
pizza.

Sarah (26:38):
Yeah. And it'd be fun to order. It's like the moon the
moon over my hammy at the WaffleHouse.

Mark (26:42):
Yep. Can I have a blue booby with with Extra extra? A
big blue booby.

Sarah (26:47):
A large blue booby. Yep. We're having too much fun saying
boobie. We

Mark (26:53):
are. Boobie.

Sarah (26:57):
I I just went with the first letter.

Mark (27:00):
Okay. So

Sarah (27:02):
you guess what this is.

Mark (27:03):
Well, let let me do another one.

Sarah (27:05):
Okay.

Mark (27:05):
Because you only have two. I have three.

Sarah (27:07):
Okay.

Mark (27:07):
So I'll do another one, then you go. Then I'll go. Okay.
My second one is the morgue porkporky pie. What's a morgue?
A morpork is a tiny little cuteowl in New Zealand. It's called
a Morpork? It's called Morpork.Sometimes it's called a ruru
because that's kinda what thesound it makes is.

Sarah (27:31):
I hear the ruru of a Morpork? Yes. Morpork is the
name of the city in all theTerry Pratchett Discworld books.

Mark (27:38):
Yes. So the Morpork porcupine has ham, bacon, and
salami on it. Nice. Yes. Morepork.
I got an actual New Zealand birdin there.

Sarah (27:48):
You did. You you rammed it in.

Mark (27:51):
Okay. It's called more pork. I saw that and I was like,
oh, well, that one's easy. It'svery cute. I'll put a picture of
a more pork in in the shownotes.

Sarah (28:04):
What do you think a puff and swallow and humming is?
Puff. Don't know. Puff andswallow and humming. I

Mark (28:11):
don't know.

Sarah (28:11):
Pepperoni, sausage, and ham.

Mark (28:13):
Okay. Yeah.

Sarah (28:15):
Puff and puff and humming and swallow is probably better.
I like that order And if you ifyou are really up for it, you
can have a puff and hummingswallow mocking that's got
mushroom on it. Ah. So Amocking.

Mark (28:30):
A mocking.

Sarah (28:31):
Puffin, puffin, swallow. That's sausage, pepperoni, ham,
and mushroom. Yes. That wouldjust be fun to order. I need one
puffin humming.

Mark (28:41):
Booby No and a more pull on.

Sarah (28:44):
Hold the swallow. That could get into double in time
real fast. Totally. Speaking ofboobies. Yes.
It's aspirational pizza. It's

Mark (28:59):
aspirational. Like, Ray has been taught by Root

Sarah (29:06):
and Trudy. Yeah. Don't be

Mark (29:08):
an ark.

Sarah (29:08):
Be aspirational.

Mark (29:09):
It's aspirational. Trudy. My last one is the penguin pie.
It's got sardines on it andwhite sauce. Anchovies.
Yes. Anchovies and white sauce.

Sarah (29:21):
It's a penguin pie?

Mark (29:22):
It's a penguin pie.

Sarah (29:24):
Is it like penguin from Batman?

Mark (29:26):
Well, see, it mixes it all up.

Sarah (29:29):
That is the penguin.

Mark (29:30):
Yes. That is the penguin, Oliver Cobblepot. Cobblepot?

Sarah (29:34):
Yes. Okay. So you could have a penguin and swallow. Now
I can just think of Danny DeVitoin the Batman movie and how
gross he was.

Mark (29:46):
More pork and swallow. It was a whole different pizza. So

Sarah (29:52):
in the room next to the poor dead man

Mark (29:55):
Yes.

Sarah (29:56):
Were the three jerk teenagers. Yes. If you are
raised by a woman who owns amuseum, do you turn out like
Fanilla? Because she's awful.It's not fair.
Okay. Yes. It is. Because youare an awful person who did
really dumb, awful things.

Mark (30:15):
Okay. Let's do the backstory. Fanella got dumped by
the pizza guy.

Sarah (30:20):
She has a crush on him, and it's not reciprocated
because he's into Lila.

Mark (30:24):
Because he's in And then the pizza guy

Sarah (30:28):
Dustin.

Mark (30:30):
Dumps Lila because he wants to spend time
concentrating on his studies.Yes.

Sarah (30:36):
Dustin has done nothing wrong except No. Work for Ray.

Mark (30:40):
Which okay.

Sarah (30:43):
He seems to be a hard worker.

Mark (30:44):
Working for Ray is not a bad thing.

Sarah (30:46):
No. It's just a dumb dumb job.

Mark (30:49):
It's just a dumb job. Yeah. Yep. I don't think Ray
pays well. I don't

Sarah (30:53):
think It makes him wear that outfit.

Mark (30:55):
I don't think he's a yelling, screaming boss.

Sarah (30:57):
Be so hot.

Mark (30:58):
But I think he's a demanding boss.

Sarah (31:00):
Yes. Aspiration.

Mark (31:01):
You get to go home on the last order.

Sarah (31:03):
Hey. You can drive that little truck home.

Mark (31:06):
I want that truck so bad. I want the t shirt so bad. I
want all the porky pie stuff.

Sarah (31:13):
Do you want me to make you a pigeon costume?

Mark (31:14):
No. Okay. You don't want that? No. I want the pigeon
costume.
Puff and swallow swallow pizza?Pizza? No. No. Just

Sarah (31:21):
trying to help.

Mark (31:22):
And so Fanella gets what's his

Sarah (31:26):
name? Dustin?

Mark (31:27):
Dustin. No. No. The new guy. Curtis.
Curtis to steal a gun from hisdad because that's the only
reason she's interested inCurtis.

Sarah (31:36):
Fanella pretends that she wants to scare Dustin on Lila's
behalf. Yes. And really, shejust wants revenge on him
herself Yes. Because she isafter she wishes Dustin was her
boyfriend, and and he doesn'tlike her.

Mark (31:52):
And this is a whole revenge plot where you think of
these things in your head, andthen you go, no, I'm not going
to do that.

Sarah (32:00):
No. The guy who works at the pizza joint really isn't
worth it.

Mark (32:05):
No. You know? He might be and then Chalmers chases him and
he threatens to jump in thewater. I'll jump. It's a foot
deep.
Chauber, the look on Chauber'sface there, he's like Like, oh,
go ahead, dude. Yeah. Again, themen in Broken Woman They're

(32:27):
winners. Are winners.

Sarah (32:28):
And Curtis is the example of, wow, I really did something
dumb because I like somebody andwanted to win them over. Yes.
Like, and I didn't really seewho they were because Fanella,
if I haven't mentioned it, isawful. She is horrendous. Her
punishment should be that shehas to go live with Tabitha.

Mark (32:47):
No, she should go to jail for a long time. I know.

Sarah (32:50):
But but then her parole should be living with Tabitha.
Yes. And having to do whatTabitha tells her to do. Yes.
Write with this wooden pen.
Go find me a pumpkin. So theidea is they're going to order a
pizza to the hotel room.Dustin's going to come deliver
it because he's the only guy whoworks for Ray. And then they're
going to do like a reservoirdogs thing with him

Mark (33:11):
Yes.

Sarah (33:12):
To make him confess that he's cheating on Lila and that's
why he dumped her.

Mark (33:16):
And they're gonna cover his head.

Sarah (33:18):
Pillowcase.

Mark (33:19):
I'm not sure why they strip him half naked.

Sarah (33:21):
So they can torture his nipples with a gun.

Mark (33:24):
Oh.

Sarah (33:27):
It just wouldn't be as effective poking him

Mark (33:29):
in his pigeon suit. I think it would be much funnier.

Sarah (33:34):
It might have absorbed the bullet though, you know?

Mark (33:37):
Yeah, maybe.

Sarah (33:38):
The parabellum wouldn't have gone in a perineum, it
would have gone in a pigeon.

Mark (33:42):
There's too many paras in this I

Sarah (33:46):
was like, parabellum, isn't that what they call the
South after the civil war?

Mark (33:50):
No, that's antebellum. And that's before the civil war.

Sarah (33:57):
No. Yeah. Anti.

Mark (34:00):
Antebellum is pre civil war. Pre bellum.

Sarah (34:04):
Now we're back to parabellums again. I thought I
had a great joke there about theparabellum and the perineum and
then Kristen says it.

Mark (34:12):
Yes. Like,

Sarah (34:13):
you stole my joke, woman.

Mark (34:15):
Well, okay. So we haven't talked about the most

Sarah (34:18):
The whole the whole plan is ill conceived, wrong Yes.
Dumb Yes. And over the top.

Mark (34:27):
And they do the whole, oh, I didn't know you were in here.
So everybody knows everybody'stalking.

Sarah (34:35):
Yeah. But the the level of terror just to get a guy who
dated your friend for a month.Like I mean, like, come on.
Dustin. He's gonna be broken forlife.

Mark (34:46):
Dustin, it's not worth it, and

Sarah (34:49):
he is completely innocent. And traumatized. He's
gotta be traumatized.

Mark (34:54):
Plus he has an earache.

Sarah (34:56):
Well, you would too if

Mark (34:57):
a Luger went off next year. Went off next year ahead.

Sarah (35:00):
You'd be like, What?

Mark (35:03):
Never mind the fact that, okay, the way the bullet goes,
it has to go up a little bit toget to the perineum on the bed.
So they would've, like, there'sjust no way that this is
accidental.

Sarah (35:18):
I buy it.

Mark (35:19):
No. No. Maybe if they tussled on the floor, but she
has the gun like up near hishead and stuff.

Sarah (35:26):
If it goes off next to his ear, it's too it has to be
at a downward angle. Yes. But itcomes out under the desk Yes. In
the room

Mark (35:36):
next Which would it would continue to go down Right. And
go under the bed Yeah. Where, aswe know, nobody finds anything.

Sarah (35:44):
Right. And unless the dead guy was laying on the floor
Yes. He'd be too high. Yes. It'sso awful.
He's just learning their mindand his own business. He
couldn't even have known whathappened to him.

Mark (35:56):
Meanwhile, I'm like, how much does a DS make in
Brokenwood? And can they affordthat house?

Sarah (36:05):
It's a nice house.

Mark (36:06):
It's a very nice house that Kristen's moving into.

Sarah (36:09):
Well, maybe she can't afford it and that's why Gina
ends up moving in. No, she movesin because her house is being
renovated.

Mark (36:15):
Her house is being renovated.

Sarah (36:17):
Apparently she makes quite a bit, or the real estate
market there is much morerealistic than it is where we
live.

Mark (36:23):
She is a trestle. Did you notice the trestle?

Sarah (36:25):
The whole house is beautiful.

Mark (36:27):
Yeah, the trestle has wisteria all over it.

Sarah (36:30):
You mean a trellis? Yes. Sorry. A trestle is a table.

Mark (36:32):
Sorry. She has a trellis. Okay. What did you think of her
red furniture?

Sarah (36:36):
Since we have a couch that looks almost exactly like
that upstairs?

Mark (36:40):
No. We used to have it.

Sarah (36:42):
We used to. I was like, oh, she's got a red couch. I was
less judgy about that than I wasabout the wallpaper in the
hallway.

Mark (36:47):
Oh, the wallpaper's bad.

Sarah (36:49):
I'm just assuming it's old.

Mark (36:50):
Should spill Borscht on it. Get rid of your armpit
secretions.

Sarah (36:57):
Gina is priceless in this episode.

Mark (37:01):
Gina and Chalmers?

Sarah (37:02):
I can stay as long as I as you need me to.

Mark (37:04):
Gina and Chalmers are the comedic team in this episode.
They are. So I feel objectified.Borscht is

Sarah (37:12):
good for your liver and armpit secretions.

Mark (37:15):
You're not gonna shoot laser beams in my private parts.

Sarah (37:17):
Go skids Waldo. Poor Waldo, who's never been called
into action before and has justbeen waiting.

Mark (37:22):
Yes. I'm just going to wait. The hotel is pretty good
CCTV that we see. Yeah.

Sarah (37:30):
I love that it's Room 904 And 905 on the 1st Floor. Yes.
Like, did they just startnumbering at 900?

Mark (37:37):
I guess. That hotel is cursed. Or is it

Sarah (37:40):
a much bigger one story hotel than we think?

Mark (37:44):
And there

Sarah (37:44):
are nine zero three rooms.

Mark (37:46):
Let's review the deaths that have happened in this
hotel. Yeah. Okay? It is a deathmagnet, that hotel.

Sarah (37:55):
Well, hotels aren't. Well, it's let's be fair. It's a
motel.

Mark (37:59):
Yes. It is a motel.

Sarah (38:01):
It's for motorists. You can park right in front of your
room. Motel.

Mark (38:05):
Yes. Tell. Holiday e. The other problem I have with this
episode is that Dustin andCurtis, they're not they're
they're they're good. Okay?
They're good at playing dumb.Mhmm. Those actors are very good
at playing dumb.

Sarah (38:21):
Mhmm.

Mark (38:21):
But they are not Oates level. No. And they need to be.

Sarah (38:25):
Nobody can be Oates level.

Mark (38:27):
They should be. If one of them had said, oh, Frodo's my
cousin, I would have been like,yeah, you're a nerd.

Sarah (38:35):
What I really like about Curtis is that we don't even
meet his dad, and you knowexactly what he's like Yes. Via
the house and what Buchanan saysabout his dad.

Mark (38:46):
It better not be Buchanan. Oh, no. It's not Buchanan.

Sarah (38:49):
No. It couldn't be. It is. Yeah. But not but not for
Yes.
Not for Lila.

Mark (38:54):
Frodo does some physical comedy here.

Sarah (38:56):
He does with the coffee cups. Yeah. He does a really
good job.

Mark (38:59):
Just a nice little bit of physical comedy.

Sarah (39:02):
Curtis's fingerprint is on the bullet. Yes. But Fanella
is the one who puts it in thegun because Fanella is the
worst.

Mark (39:10):
She purposely loads that weapon.

Sarah (39:13):
When he's not there. Because he's smart enough to go,
no. No. No. No.
No. No. No. We don't do that.

Mark (39:19):
And he is a really dumb person. Uh-huh. And he I don't
know anything about anything.No.

Sarah (39:24):
No. But but my dad collects, you know, World War
two Nazi guns or something, but,you know, that's okay. I just
can't get over what they do toDustin. It's just so scary and
awful and unnecessary. Yes.
And then for Jax to die soneedlessly

Mark (39:41):
It is.

Sarah (39:42):
Though I kind of think Fanella is gonna go to the
women's prison in town and runthe joint.

Mark (39:47):
Yeah. She's another one that's gonna run the joint. For
for me, I don't it's it's likethis. So they had to get the
Beth storyline figured out.

Sarah (39:58):
Mhmm.

Mark (39:58):
Beth is gonna marry Mike and be a regular or

Sarah (40:03):
She has to go.

Mark (40:04):
She has to go. And that is a tough thing. It's tough. This
actress has been on what I thinknine episodes now. Mhmm.
Like, it's tough. And I'm sureshe was pulling for I Marry Mike
and I'm a regular now.

Sarah (40:20):
Maybe.

Mark (40:21):
Her being in the hospital helps. Right? Mhmm. So they had
to finish that story. Do youthink they then glued this half
story that they had on to this?
Or which do you think camefirst? Because I think if the
crime story came first, theyknew it wasn't good enough for a

(40:43):
full episode.

Sarah (40:44):
Not that it's not good enough, that it's not big
enough.

Mark (40:47):
Yes.

Sarah (40:48):
It's kind of easily solved. Yes. Once they know
where the bullet came from. Andit can only come from next door.

Mark (40:55):
And there's no mystery.

Sarah (40:56):
No. The fact that it kind of lacks a mystery, I think
makes it not a candidate for afull episode. I can see that. So
yeah, they might have had thatstory in their back pocket and
then thought, okay, this is agood story to pair with.

Mark (41:11):
Because Bob The Beth story. Is the king of that's a
good character, I'll bring themback later. Yeah. And that is a
thing. Like, people who say thatthat Broken Wood is Midsommar in
New Zealand, there are a lot ofsimilarities, but that is a
difference.

Sarah (41:28):
Yeah.

Mark (41:29):
Think so too. Midsummer doesn't have reoccurring
characters the way Rev Green,Frodo

Sarah (41:35):
Right. Know, Trudy Ray.

Mark (41:38):
Doesn't have those reoccurring characters that are
not crime related.

Sarah (41:42):
Do you think Trudy would have hired Fanella? I don't
think she would have. I thinkshe would have talked to her for
thirty seconds, had her numberand went, no, I'm not messing.

Mark (41:49):
She did hire Fanella, she would have her cleaning the
women's bathrooms right away.

Sarah (41:54):
All day? Yes. All the time? Yes. With a toothbrush.
She'd have her numberimmediately.

Mark (42:01):
Yeah. I I don't buy the the she works for me thing
because Trudy is better thanthat. Mhmm. Trudy reads people
better than that.

Sarah (42:10):
So in the end, Fanella's definitely gonna go to prison.
Yes. Lila fired the shot. Yeah.I think So she's gonna go to
prison.

Mark (42:18):
I think she needs to

Sarah (42:19):
go to prison too. Dustin provided the weapon, so he's at
least getting some kind ofweapons charge.

Mark (42:26):
Kidnapping all of them. Conspiracy all of them.

Sarah (42:31):
Yeah. Failure to check on the guy in the next room. Yep.
They're all getting that.

Mark (42:37):
Yeah, all that stuff.

Sarah (42:38):
Fanella put the bullet in the gun, but Lila shot it, and
Dustin provided it, Curtisprovided it, so they're kind of
all three going away on kind ofequal charges, I think. They
are. Poor Dustin's just going tobe traumatized, And Beth is
gone. Like She's gone to the newjob.

Mark (42:57):
It's difficult because Dustin is just honest with
people. Yeah. He he he saysthere was no one else. He he,
like, he doesn't dump either oneof the women unfairly.

Sarah (43:10):
No. He's very nice to Fanella when he lets her down.
Yeah. I got your Valentine's Daycard, but I have to tell you, I
mean, he does have a poor choicein women because Lila's clearly
weird.

Mark (43:21):
Granted all that. Love that Lila tries to pretend

Sarah (43:24):
that she was drunk and disoriented and found herself
under that bed.

Mark (43:28):
Yes. I don't know how I got there. I don't know how I
got there. At first, I thoughtshe was under the bed the whole
time that Sims and And Chalmerswere doing the laser bit with
the did you notice the laser guywas suddenly Eastern European

(43:49):
for no reason? Someone ask askedfor a laser?
Someone asked for a laser?

Sarah (43:54):
Waldo asked for a laser. Maybe he's related to Gina. I'm

Mark (44:02):
Ivan with laser.

Sarah (44:03):
That's what Gina needs. She needs a brother. Don't you
think? So oh, like a

Mark (44:10):
little Sims's house, I was like, oh, there's the bedroom
with the sister.

Sarah (44:15):
And that's Oh. Oh. That's later.

Mark (44:18):
Did you notice Sims' cute little shoes?

Sarah (44:21):
Mhmm.

Mark (44:22):
Yeah. She got Chuck Taylors on. They change clothes
in this episode many times.

Sarah (44:29):
Every time they pick up the couch, their phone rings.
Yes. It's it's a funny joke.Yeah. I like that joke.

Mark (44:33):
It's a fun joke. And Kristen doesn't have any
friends. We we've not seen herwith any friends at all. And if
I was moving, I would callChalmers to come help me.

Sarah (44:43):
I would too. He's the strongest person in town.

Mark (44:44):
Why is he not carrying I carry Couch by myself. By
myself.

Sarah (44:51):
Oh, call the laser guy. He's clearly strong. Yeah. Call
Gina. Yeah.
She could have asked them. Ginawould have Gina would have
helped.

Mark (44:57):
Gina would have dropped everything and went and helped.

Sarah (44:59):
And her cowboy hat.

Mark (45:00):
And made borscht. Have you ever had borscht? No. Have we
talked about borscht before?

Sarah (45:04):
Yes. I like beats. I don't wanna have borscht. What
did you think of Sin City, theband at the end?

Mark (45:12):
So they are obviously friends of so the band that was
in the other episode with thelead Yeah. Singer that's female
that those her and her brotherrun the music for the show.
Mhmm. So they're friends ofthose people, clearly. Mhmm.
I think they did a great job. Ithink Marcus dressed up in all
his cowboy finery was fantastic.I think that anybody who geeks

(45:35):
out on stuff like that is fun.

Sarah (45:37):
Maybe Marcus and Gina need to meet.

Mark (45:39):
Oh, they They'd have fun together. They would indeed have
some fun together.

Sarah (45:43):
But he lives eight hours away now.

Mark (45:46):
Eight hours away. God. You drive eight hours in this state,
you're almost out of it.

Sarah (45:55):
You're almost at Fort Wayne. We we said last week last
time that we were gonna startending the episodes with
recommendations. Yes. Funthings. Thing interesting
things.

Mark (46:06):
Yes.

Sarah (46:06):
Things to keep people smiling through the cold months.

Mark (46:09):
The cold months and the Christmasy holiday seasons.
There was a lot of just talk inthe zeitgeist about fights at
Thanksgiving this year. Mhmm.Has he have you ever had fights
at Thanksgiving? No.
Neither have I.

Sarah (46:23):
My family is very passive aggressive. Yeah. We swallow all
the things that we

Mark (46:26):
My fight family is Canadian, so of course, we're
passive aggressive.

Sarah (46:30):
Yeah. Just, you know I did have an uncle who didn't
believe in the moon landing, andhe would bring that up. Oh. And
everybody would just roll theireyes and just wait for him to
shut up.

Mark (46:41):
We just have more We

Sarah (46:43):
just have more cranberry sauce.

Mark (46:44):
Cranberry sauce.

Sarah (46:45):
You

Mark (46:45):
know? I have to say, folks, that Sarah made probably
the best turkey she's ever madefor me. It's delicious. It's
still delicious.

Sarah (46:54):
It's good.

Mark (46:55):
And the cranberry sauce she made was fantastic.

Sarah (46:57):
We spatchcocked that turkey. We did indeed. A 21
pound spatchcocked turkey.

Mark (47:03):
And then shoved a temperature probe up its
parabellum. That

Sarah (47:09):
was good. And the cranberry sauce was cranberries
and pomegranate. Yes. It had twopomegranates and one bag of
cranberries. It's got half andhalf.

Mark (47:17):
Yep.

Sarah (47:17):
Speaking of which, this relates to my recommendation for
the

Mark (47:20):
week. Excellent.

Sarah (47:21):
Which is my favorite sandwich that I only eat at
Thanksgiving because it requiresturkey and lunch meat turkey
just doesn't cut it. Nope. It'sa strange sandwich, I know, but
I promise you, it is so good.

Mark (47:36):
You you converted one of the children all on it.

Sarah (47:39):
So Tegan is all about this sandwich now. Yeah. Okay.
So here here is Sarah's favoritesandwich. And if you have turkey
leftovers, you should try it.

Mark (47:48):
And I went and got these things, especially from the

Sarah (47:50):
grocery I store love you, and you love me. I can't believe
that you found everything. Yes.Because you need pumpernickel
bread. Yes.
I don't know why, but it is thebest bread for this sandwich.
Okay. You put cream cheese onone piece of bread. Okay. This
is important.
It acts as a barrier. Yes. Okay?But it's also good. Cheese.

(48:11):
Sliced turkey. Yep. Good turkey.Thanksgiving turkey is the best.
White meat.
Yes. Mhmm. Alfalfa sprouts.

Mark (48:18):
Okay.

Sarah (48:19):
Not lettuce, not your watery little scrap. Alfalfa
sprouts. Not not those big beansprouts. Nope. It's like crunchy
vegetable hair.
Yep. It's but it's perfect.

Mark (48:29):
That's what it is.

Sarah (48:30):
And cranberry sauce. Yes. And so cream cheese acts as a
barrier to cranberry sauce. Youput the cranberry sauce on top
of the cream cheese so itdoesn't sog the bread. And then
turkey and alfalfa sprouts onpumpernickel.
It is so good. I've already hadthree of these.

Mark (48:47):
And what do you call them?

Sarah (48:48):
The restaurant where I had it the first time was they
call it Mary's favorite. Yes.But I I just call it my favorite
because that restaurant's longgone.

Mark (48:58):
Yes.

Sarah (48:59):
And it is still my favorite.

Mark (49:01):
Okay. That's a good one.

Sarah (49:03):
So my recommendation for this week is go get yourself
some pumpernickel and somesprouts and some turkey
leftovers and try one of thosesandwiches.

Mark (49:10):
I got two. I got a Tabitha touchy feely one and and a and a
book recommendation.

Sarah (49:16):
Are you gonna say that we should all write with wooden
pens? No. Okay.

Mark (49:19):
No. But I have a quote

Sarah (49:21):
Mhmm.

Mark (49:22):
From the great Dale Cooper from Twin Peaks. Okay. Every
day, once a day, give yourself apresent. Don't plan it, don't
wait for it, just let it happen.It could be a new shirt at the
men's store, a catnap in youroffice, or two cups of good hot
black coffee.
Give yourself a present everyday.

Sarah (49:41):
I like that.

Mark (49:42):
That drops in the first I think episode three of Twin
Peaks in the first season andyou're just stunned.

Sarah (49:49):
Give yourself a present and have my sandwich.

Mark (49:51):
Yep. There you go. The other recommendation I have is
for a book by Ellie Griffiths.I'm not sure if you've read this
book or not. I'm I'm not sure.
It's called The Crossing Placesand it's a Ruth Galloway
mystery. It's written in 2010,so it's 15 years old.

Sarah (50:09):
Mhmm.

Mark (50:10):
She's a archaeologist.

Sarah (50:12):
Mhmm.

Mark (50:12):
And she and a policeman solve crimes together. Nice. So
the first book was very, verygood.

Sarah (50:21):
So that's the first book in the series. That's There's a
bunch of those books.

Mark (50:24):
There are a bunch of those books and Ellie Griffiths who I
really like her writing, I likethe flow of her writing. Her new
book is about a time travelingdetective. I'm like, does work?
Does that work?

Sarah (50:36):
But interesting.

Mark (50:37):
Yes. So, The Crossing Places. One of the things I like
about it is a female leadcharacter who is not, oh, I was
just recklessly beautifulaccidentally. I think Ruth is
beautiful, but not because sheis traditionally beautiful.

Sarah (50:55):
Okay.

Mark (50:56):
Right? And she's an academic, and she's a little
larger than most women, andshe's like, in her almost 40 and
unmarried and has no children.And that has it has interesting
stories told by women thingsthat I wouldn't have thought.
Women things? Yes.
Okay.

Sarah (51:18):
You just undermined your feminist message there by You
calling them women

Mark (51:24):
know, I like the women things.

Sarah (51:28):
Good recommendation.

Mark (51:29):
Yes.

Sarah (51:30):
If you have recommendations for things that
make you happy that you thinkmight make other people happy,
post them on the subreddit, sendthem in an email. We'll curate a
list of recommended things,women things. Yes. Boobies.

Mark (51:44):
Boobies. Boobies or women I'm leaving this chat now. If
you're interested in theschedule for the next month or
so, please remember to join thenewsletter. That's the first
place it comes out. And ournewsletter comes out later this
week.

Sarah (52:02):
Alright. Until next time. Bye, maniacs.

Mark (52:05):
Bye, boobies. Thanks for joining us on the mystery
maniacs podcast. If you enjoyedour crazy podcast today, don't
miss out on future episodes.Follow us on social media for
updates, beyond the scenescontent, and exclusive sneak
peeks. Subscribe, like, andshare to spread the word.
Bye, Maniacs.

Sarah (52:23):
I would gladly wear a Porky Pigeon pizza t shirt. Oh.
I love that logo.Congratulations. He's so cute.
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