Mrs. M’s Butt Cheeks | Brokenwood | "Exposed to the Light" | Mystery Maniacs Podcast EP241 - Mystery Maniacs

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Mark (00:00):
Woah. And then suddenly kissing.

Sarah (00:03):
Yeah. Hey, maniacs.

Mark (00:20):
Hey, mystery maniacs. Mystery maniacs is a comedy
recap podcast dedicated tomystery TV. And each week, we
dig into an episode of the show,including the murders, the
mayhem, the loonies, andeverything else we love. This
week

Sarah (00:36):
Brokenwood season seven episode five, exposed to the
light.

Mark (00:41):
I'm Mark.

Sarah (00:43):
I'm Sarah. Hello, person.

Mark (00:45):
Hi, Sarah. You look wonderful today. No. It's
lovely. Lovely.

Sarah (00:50):
Gina says, I say I say to the body, hello, person. And
they say, hello, Gina. You looklovely today. Gina. Cannot do
her accent.

Mark (00:58):
I've been trying. Officially makes me
uncomfortable in this episode.

Sarah (01:02):
She should be reprimanded Yes. For not doing her job well.
But before we

Mark (01:07):
get into that

Sarah (01:09):
let's talk about other stuff. Before we get grumpy
about that, let's be grumpyabout Midsommar.

Mark (01:13):
Yes. Before we start, it is a spoiler podcast, and so
we're gonna ruin the ending ofall sorts of movies. And if you
let your kids go to the theater,which you should.

Sarah (01:24):
I guess. Yeah. Sticky conversion to the podcast.
Overly priced popcorn.

Mark (01:28):
What is going on with Midsummer?

Sarah (01:31):
I

Mark (01:32):
Oh, gosh.

Sarah (01:33):
Don't know, but it's bad. You know,

Mark (01:37):
sometimes you create a podcast for six years. We've
been almost going six years on ashow that we absolutely love. In
Summer Murders, we covered everysingle episode. We will cover
every single episode of the newseries. We love it.
We have loved it from the verybeginning.

Sarah (01:57):
Which is why we have high expectations for it. We have.
Which is why we are soincredibly disappointed.

Mark (02:02):
High expectations. But this week, they have stumbled.

Sarah (02:06):
On Instagram, they started posting reels about
their new merch line, theirtwenty five twenty fifth
anniversary merch line.

Mark (02:17):
Yes. So Nick Hendrix, plays the sergeant on the new
series is advert like, he'sgoing through some of the
merchandise that is available.

Sarah (02:27):
Showing it off. Yeah. And he's a good actor because he
actually pretends to be excitedabout it.

Mark (02:33):
The merch is now first of all, if you wanna send us a
bunch of merch, we'll take it.

Sarah (02:41):
Yeah. We'll even take your disappointing merch. No.
No. I'll take one of those teatowels.

Mark (02:46):
Take the tea towel.

Sarah (02:47):
The tea towel.

Mark (02:47):
And make that. Cute little picture on the tea towel. That
is the only thing worthpurchasing.

Sarah (02:53):
It looks like a a blue and white China pattern, but
when you look very closely atit, there are people, like,
murdering each other. Yes. Andthat's clever. I like that. Yep.
But I think they sunk theirentire design budget into that
one design and then just phonedin the rest of them.

Mark (03:08):
No. What they did was they phoned somebody who had never
seen the show and had thatperson explain to them what the
show was like and what a goodpodcast would be to listen to.
And then that person ignoredthat and went away and made t
shirts. And typed some wordslike visited mid midsummer,
survived.

Sarah (03:28):
That's a shirt. You just put your head on your
microphone.

Mark (03:33):
Just they had a chance. They I
I hate potential that is squandered.

Sarah (03:40):
I would have given them some of our designs. We've got
some fun ones. Yes. We couldhave had them. Yep.
I don't care. Yep. Sell ours.

Mark (03:46):
Needless to say, August

Sarah (03:48):
Remake ours. Make them better. I don't care.

Mark (03:50):
On the Midsummer Murder subreddit, we were not the only
ones not impressed.

Sarah (03:54):
The other thing that they've done, they they seem to
be having, like, a promotionalpush for the the 25, which is
great. I'm glad they're doingthat. But whoever's responsible
for it is really phoning it inand half assing it. Yes. They've
got another post where JeffPovey, is that right?
That's his name?

Mark (04:11):
That's his name.

Sarah (04:12):
One of the writers who's written many episodes is sitting
in a folding chair with araggedy piece of paper talking
to the camera. You can't hearhim because the music is so loud
over the clip.

Mark (04:24):
And Jeff is not a public speaker.

Sarah (04:26):
He's a writer.

Mark (04:27):
He's a writer.

Sarah (04:29):
It's filmed from 500 feet away, so you can't even read his
lips to even try to hear whathe's saying. But the bottom line
is he's saying, hey, send inquestions, and actors will
answer them.

Mark (04:41):
Yes.

Sarah (04:42):
But that is after two minutes of him sort of rambling
about various things that he'swritten or not written or lines
that are good or not good orwhatever. You can It's like he's
just filling time. You can'thear him. And you can't hear
him.

Mark (04:56):
Did they actually look at the reel No. Before. They put

Sarah (05:01):
it watch it before they posted it. They didn't. Or they
would have turned the music downin the mix. It's it's a simple
thing. It takes five minutes orless.
Listen. Midsummer murderspeople, people behind this. You
don't even have to pay us.

Mark (05:16):
You all work hard.

Sarah (05:17):
Just just fly us over. Pay for pay for room and board,
and we will run a campaign foryou Yep. That is better than
what you have.

Mark (05:26):
Yeah. We'll do that.

Sarah (05:29):
I don't even expect a salary. Come over for a month.
We'll kick ass. And all of ourmaniacs will help us. Yes.
We make this offer, Because whatyou're doing right now is
underselling the awesomeness ofthat show.

Mark (05:42):
Yeah. But we do find out the name of

Sarah (05:45):
an episode. Of the first episode of season twenty six.

Mark (05:47):
We think it's the first. We don't know.

Sarah (05:49):
Right.

Mark (05:50):
But he tends to do the first episode.

Sarah (05:53):
It's called Death Strikes Three.

Mark (05:55):
So this will be his eighth episode that he's written. Death
Strikes Three.

Sarah (05:59):
It's gotta be about a clock.

Mark (06:00):
Clockmakers, perhaps?

Sarah (06:02):
It's gotta be. Three deaths, perhaps? Or bowling. Oh.
I hadn't thought of be bowling.

Mark (06:10):
They do that sometimes where they take two things that
are slightly tangentially And

Sarah (06:15):
mash them up.

Mark (06:16):
And mash them together.

Sarah (06:17):
It could be a clockmakers bowling league where somebody
gets murdered.

Mark (06:23):
That's a possibility.

Sarah (06:25):
We should be writing this shit. Come on.

Mark (06:27):
Oh, midsummer. You could do better.

Sarah (06:30):
One thing we watched this week that was better than I
expected it to be. Yes. Which isthe opposite of our experience
with this midsummer By the

Mark (06:37):
way, prepare to be stunned.

Sarah (06:39):
Which is completely outside the box of anything else
we talk about is a new movie onNetflix called k pop demon
hunters.

Mark (06:46):
It is fantastic.

Sarah (06:48):
It is. It's really really fun. I did not expect it to be.
I thought it was like, put iton, it'll be annoying, it'll be
in the background. We we don'tlike k pop.
Put knitting down to watch causeit was fun.

Mark (07:01):
We don't like k pop.

Sarah (07:02):
No. Not at all.

Mark (07:03):
We don't like anime.
No. We we don't like we don't generally watch kids
movies or animated movies. Wedon't tend to do any of those
things.

Sarah (07:13):
No. But

Mark (07:13):
a friend Those songs are catchy.

Sarah (07:15):
A friend of ours was like, have you watched k pop
demon hunters? And we're like,no. Get on with yourself. And
then we we have how manychannels?

Mark (07:23):
A million.

Sarah (07:24):
And we couldn't find anything to watch. Nope. Let's
watch k pop demon hunters. Andit was really good. So if you
have Netflix

Mark (07:31):
When we left the room, we paused it. That's there you go.

Sarah (07:34):
Yeah. Because we didn't wanna miss any of It's it's
clever. It is. It's very clever.

Mark (07:40):
It's fun.

Sarah (07:40):
So if you need some brain candy and you got Netflix, check
out k pop demon hunters.Elsewhere on subreddit, there
have been some really awesomethreads going on, some really
great discussions. And I just Ionly mention it because I just
wanna encourage people. Redditis not scary. Our subreddit is a
friendly place.
If you go nowhere else onReddit, come to our come to the

(08:02):
mystery maniac subreddit, andyou don't even have to post
about the episodes that we'retalking about. Nope. You don't
even have to post about mysteryTV. Nope. You can just post
about stuff that you think othermaniacs would be interested in.

Mark (08:14):
There are more than 300 like minded people

Sarah (08:17):
Yes.

Mark (08:18):
Right there.

Sarah (08:18):
And it's really fun.

Mark (08:19):
I moderate it, so nobody's going on saying stupid stuff or
anything.

Sarah (08:24):
There's no racist crap on there or politics or

Mark (08:27):
anything else like anything that they shouldn't be
posting?

Sarah (08:29):
No. It's it's just all maniac stuff. For example, this
week, there was a greatdiscussion about series of books
that people like. Yes. And itwas really fun, and I got some
ideas for things that I wannaread.
I would just encourage everybodyto give it a shot.

Mark (08:44):
I would agree.

Sarah (08:45):
Okay. Are you ready to talk exposed to the light?

Mark (08:48):
Original air date, 04/26/2021, directed by Addie
Walker who played Amy in thespider episode Oh. And written
by Roy Ward.

Sarah (09:01):
How many days does this episode take place over? If the
murder is on a Sunday night,when when does the episode end?

Mark (09:10):
It all depends when the open house is because at first,
I

Sarah (09:15):
would say No. From the time of the murder to the time
that it's solved, and the murderhappens on a Sunday night, when
do they solve it?

Mark (09:22):
I think two or three days at most.

Sarah (09:25):
I think they solve it on Tuesday morning.

Mark (09:27):
Okay. That's a pretty quick turnaround.

Sarah (09:30):
I think it's an incredibly short turnaround. And
I don't know what time it'sairing on Sunday night, but they
do a lot before the end of thatfirst day.

Mark (09:39):
Well, Mike teleports back and forth to the hospital.

Sarah (09:42):
I was just so confused. They kept saying, well, this
morning or tonight. I'm like,wait. What? This is like, this
is the same day as the murderstill?

Mark (09:54):
What? The time is all weird in this episode.

Sarah (09:57):
So it centers around the Brokenwood Empire Cinema Yes.
Which is an old timey movietheater in Brokenwood, and
they're airing the wind from theSouth.

Mark (10:07):
Which is pure colonialism cinema.

Sarah (10:11):
It's like gone with the wind, crossed with song of the
South, crossed with New Zealandcolonial stuff.

Mark (10:19):
With an earthquake.

Sarah (10:20):
There is the earthquake, which I'm not surprised that
they feature an earthquake inthe movie. Do you know how many
earthquakes happen in NewZealand per year? Guess.

Mark (10:32):
No idea. 200.

Sarah (10:33):
More. Wow. More. Guess again. 400.
More. Guess again.

Mark (10:39):
A

Sarah (10:39):
thousand. More. A year. 20,000 a year. Most of them are
too too low on the Richter scalefor anybody to feel.

Mark (10:50):
Okay.

Sarah (10:51):
But there are approximately 250 a year that
people feel in some way.

Mark (10:56):
Okay. Dudes, get off those islands, man.

Sarah (10:58):
In the entirety of The US per year, how many do you think
there are total? And the ones wecan and cannot feel, how many do
you think there are?

Mark (11:06):
1,200.

Sarah (11:07):
Yes. About 1,200 in The US.

Mark (11:10):
Wow.

Sarah (11:11):
No, I'm sorry. 12,000 in The US. Okay. Okay. But that but
that is the entire Of The UnitedStates?
Most of the continent. Yes.12,000 a year. Wow. And only
about 30 that we can feel.
So they have like 10 times morethat they can feel. Wow. So an
earthquake being in the moviereally isn't that big of a deal,

(11:31):
except that it required theactors to be like, woah. Then
suddenly kissing. Yeah.
Well, if you're gonna catch alady, you gotta kiss her. Right?
Charlotte Chambers is theactress who stars in the movie.
Yes. When do you think thismovie was released?
The film that they are watching.It's a black and white film.

Mark (11:50):
Black and white movie. Don't they say something about
fifty years ago?

Sarah (11:54):
Maybe. Maybe? I'm if they did, I missed If

Mark (11:58):
if that was the case, it would be in the seventies.

Sarah (12:01):
Which wouldn't be right. Yeah. So color movies, you know,
with like Technicolor becamelike dominant in the late 30s
Yeah. Early 40s, which ifCharlotte was 20 years old when
she was in the movie, make herlike 110.

Mark (12:17):
Yeah.

Sarah (12:21):
Even if New Zealand was behind or it was a small
production and they couldn'tafford color, let's let's give
them $19.50. That means she'slike 95.

Mark (12:31):
Read at least two articles on, in particularly, Maori
cinema, and Maori cinema hasbeen going on since the teens,
the nineteen teens. That'sawesome.

Sarah (12:42):
The it on the movie poster, it says Roy l Vincent
presents

Mark (12:47):
Yes.

Sarah (12:48):
And directed by Klaus Vandenberg. Vandenberg. He's not
native to New Zealand. No.

Mark (12:54):
He's he's not. And of course there's all these
colonial jests and things thatare going on with the cinema and
certainly when I did researchinto New Zealand hit film
history, it's all there.

Sarah (13:10):
Oh, yeah.

Mark (13:11):
Absolutely. Now, there's really

Sarah (13:14):
a movie about a a white woman falling in love with a
Maori man. Yes. And the big dealabout the film is that it's the
first feature film filmed inBrokenwood. Yes. And that the
stars, Charlotte Chambers andPatu Elliott, were locals.
Yes. So that was a big deal.

Mark (13:34):
There's an interracial kiss in it Yeah. Which would
have been surprising into thesixties.

Sarah (13:39):
Oh my gosh. Yeah. So Wasn't it a big deal when it
happened in Star Trek?

Mark (13:43):
Yes. It was a huge deal when it happened in Star Trek.

Sarah (13:46):
So they're having this big, like, film viewing of the
film and Charlotte comes to tobe there. Okay. It's a big deal.
Right?

Mark (13:55):
We have way more to talk about in the first ninety
seconds of this movie than that.Did you see

Sarah (14:02):
Mark looked at every single poster, flyer, handbill,
sticker, posted stamp, posted

Mark (14:09):
We're not even
getting to the movie posters yet. Okay.
Did you see the strange head on a shelf?
No. If you come around to my screen, you could see the
strange head on the shelf that

Sarah (14:26):
There's a head on the shelf.

Mark (14:27):
Behind the bartender.

Sarah (14:29):
It looks like a cross between a young Einstein and
Groucho Marx.

Mark (14:35):
With a little bit of Gene Shalut shown thrown in there.

Sarah (14:39):
Oh. Wasn't Gene Shalut a movie critic? Yes. Maybe it is
Gene Shalut.

Mark (14:44):
Okay. So there's that weirdness. There's also karma
karma cola. Karma karmachameleon Karma cola. Do you
know what that is?

Sarah (14:55):
I know what karma is. I know what cola is.

Mark (14:57):
Okay. Karma cola is an actual drink company from
Australia. Cool. And what theydo is they make sodas that are
all organic and no. Sorry.
It's not from Australia. It'sKiwi owned.

Sarah (15:10):
So it's New Zealand?

Mark (15:11):
Yes. It's New Zealand. And every drink goes to help
villages in Sierra Leone.

Sarah (15:17):
That's a little product placement going on.

Mark (15:20):
It is in fact a little product placement going on. So
they have not only super coolethic, okay? But the designs on
their packages are fantastic. Sothey have a Karma Cola which is
just cola and they have dietthat and diet version. But they

(15:40):
also have a lemonade namedLemmy.

Sarah (15:44):
Okay.

Mark (15:44):
And Lemmy is actually on the lemonade. He's a little
lemon

Sarah (15:49):
Okay.

Mark (15:49):
That is cute and he he's on the the bus. People from

Sarah (15:54):
New Zealand are like snore fest.

Mark (15:57):
They also have a ginger ale

Sarah (15:59):
called Gingerella. Oh, that's fun.

Mark (16:02):
Which has a young lady who is a ginger on their

Sarah (16:08):
She has red hair.

Mark (16:09):
Yeah. She has red hair. And that so so that's all
normal. Then they have araspberry lemonade, which I
think looked super good too. So,I think we should order a couple
of these.
Now, Unfortunately, they onlysend in packs of 15.

Sarah (16:29):
That's worse than the pie. Yes. So I can't imagine
what shipping is. They'll be soheavy.

Mark (16:37):
I will consult with Sarah as to what we order.

Sarah (16:41):
Have a caramel cola tasting. If you're from New
Zealand or you've tried caramelone of this brand's flavors, not
cola, and you think one of themis best, recommend them to us.

Mark (16:51):
I would I would like to order some because it helps
people in Sierra Leone.

Sarah (16:55):
It's a good cause and it's a fun brand.

Mark (16:56):
And it'd be fun to to do that. And plus it's ginger ale.
Okay. I have in my notes. I'vebeen working on these notes for
fifteen minutes, and I'm onlyone minute and forty five
seconds into the episode because

Sarah (17:11):
kind of like this podcast episode.

Mark (17:13):
The next room they go into has a bunch of fake movie
posters, including the silentviolence.
Yes.

Sarah (17:21):
A lot of the movie posters are for horror movies.
Yes. They're like illustrationsfor horror movies like Return
from the Swamp.

Mark (17:30):
Yes. And Not All Dogs Are something. Oh my gosh. I
literally took two dozenscreenshots.

Sarah (17:40):
Is that the opposite of all dogs go to heaven?

Mark (17:42):
I guess. I try I was trying and then there's a movie
just called The Screamer.

Sarah (17:50):
Oh, we're gonna talk about movie titles here in
minute.

Mark (17:53):
Boy. Are we? So the film begins and they do that cute
little thing where the filmtakes over the screen and we
watch the film and there'sreally only two scenes shown.

Sarah (18:06):
There's the earthquake scene and the waterfall scene.
Yes. And that's pretty much it.

Mark (18:10):
Yes. And then you hear what you never wanna hear in a
theater which is fire. Now, Iwanna talk about this scene with
the fire because Mike picks upMike and and Daniel Chalmers do
the right thing that cops aresupposed to do which is run
towards danger

Sarah (18:31):
Mhmm.

Mark (18:31):
Not away from it. Right. That's what cops do.

Sarah (18:33):
Yep.

Mark (18:34):
Right? Mike picks up a fire extinguisher, and there is
flames in the projection booth.

Sarah (18:41):
Mhmm. Not CGI flames.

Mark (18:43):
And Mike puts them out. Yeah. The insurance people must
have been like, no.

Sarah (18:51):
Well, you don't know what kind I mean, like, they could
have been extremely contained.

Mark (18:55):
Well, I'm sure it was absolutely contained. I believe
the people who make Broken Woodwant to ensure the safety of
their actors and things likethat. But I bet you Neil Ray was
really excited to do that. Oh,Because that's a thing that
actors very rarely get to do.

Sarah (19:13):
Yeah. It's good to actually use it. Have you ever
used a fire extinguisher?

Mark (19:16):
I've never used a fire extinguisher.

Sarah (19:18):
Me either. So I'm I'm glad I've never had to, but I've
always thought it looked kindalike fun.

Mark (19:23):
Yep.

Sarah (19:26):
So the projectionist is Colin Stubbley.

Mark (19:29):
Who is not dead.

Sarah (19:31):
No. But he is so over the top. Like Yes. Totally drunk,
smoking like 10 cigarettes atonce Yep. Raising a glass, like

Mark (19:40):
just There's no vape here.

Sarah (19:42):
His nose is red. He's stumbly.

Mark (19:45):
He likes to pee from high places.

Sarah (19:48):
Is that a thing?

Mark (19:49):
I do not know because I

Sarah (19:52):
have never done it. But like, would you want to? No.
Given the opportunity, you don'tthink it would be fun? No.
If it was totally safe andnobody could see you and there
was no chance of anybody beingoffended by you doing it, you
wouldn't think it would be fun?

Mark (20:09):
No, I don't. That whole part of me, I don't like.

Sarah (20:15):
That that like dudes peeing on things part.

Mark (20:20):
It's just

Sarah (20:20):
Nitrile. Nitrile. Is that right?

Mark (20:24):
Yes.

Sarah (20:24):
Films? Yes. Nitrate. Nitrate. Extremely flammable.

Mark (20:29):
Oh, they

Sarah (20:30):
Like, they wanna catch fire. Gonna catch fire.

Mark (20:33):
So I'm

Sarah (20:34):
just sitting here. Gonna catch fire.

Mark (20:36):
I bet you didn't know that this was going to take the turn
that it's about to take. Do youknow about nitrate films and the
Olympics? No. So the Olympictorch is lit in Greece each
year. Mhmm.
Do you

Sarah (20:49):
know how it's lit? From a flame?

Mark (20:52):
It no. They take a piece of nitride film to the Acropolis
or some space in Greece. Yeah.And on a sunny day and the light
from the sun reflected, they useit like a reflected shield

(21:13):
around it.

Sarah (21:14):
Mhmm.

Mark (21:15):
Lights so they get the light, the heat and the energy
from the sun. It lights the thefilm on fire and that's what
starts the Olympic torch everysingle time the Olympic torch is
started.

Sarah (21:30):
Why film? Why not a fuse or

Mark (21:32):
Because it is so incredibly flammable.

Sarah (21:35):
Molotov cocktails.

Mark (21:36):
It's so incredibly flammable. When I saw that, I
was like, wow.

Sarah (21:42):
It's so easy to ignite.

Mark (21:43):
It's so easy to ignite. And I gotta think

Sarah (21:47):
I mean, didn't do that in ancient times, obviously.

Mark (21:50):
No. No. Really? Sarah, I never knew.

Sarah (21:57):
Maybe it's maybe it's frames of footage from when
Germany hosted the Olympicsduring the war. Maybe. Because
everybody wants to burn thatmemory.

Mark (22:09):
This is the part of the episode where I feel sorry for
Oliver. Don't worry. We'll getto the point in the episode
where I don't feel sorry forOliver.

Sarah (22:18):
Oliver, Lyle's brother who lives in the red house. Yes.
Every room in his house ispainted red.

Mark (22:26):
Well, that's what drives him to sleep with his partners.
His brother's girlfriend?

Sarah (22:32):
Yes. Even way back when? Yeah. What? Never.
Karma. He's dying.

Mark (22:38):
Yeah. So

Sarah (22:39):
Yeah. Of what? We don't need to know that. That's
personal. Anyway Why is that anyof your business?

Mark (22:44):
Doesn't really matter
because missus M is here.

Sarah (22:47):
So the burnt the No.

Mark (22:48):
Not missus M. Reverend Green is here
Yeah.
With a naked lady.

Sarah (22:52):
So the victim is Lyle Denson, who is a businessman and
real estate developer who owns atheater along with his brother,
Oliver, he of the Red House.Yes. Who names their kid Cain if
they don't want their kid to beevil?

Mark (23:06):
You gotta have twins.

Sarah (23:08):
You have to. Cain?

Mark (23:10):
Who names their kid Cain?

Sarah (23:12):
He's nicer than he should be by his name.

Mark (23:16):
But yeah. The poor kid has to stay up all night and then
gets Kristen's coffee.

Sarah (23:21):
Reverend Green, who clearly doesn't know how film
editing works, thinks No. I cantake this this film footage
that's been cut from this movieup while they're showing the
movie, and Colin will be able tosplice it in no problem.

Mark (23:36):
This is not how It's too late.

Sarah (23:38):
Is not

Mark (23:39):
how film works.

Sarah (23:41):
So he gets knocked on the head so badly that he has to
have surgery to to relievepressure on his brain Yeah.
Which is like drilling a hole inyour skull.

Mark (23:50):
They completely kinda gloss over that. And he's like,
oh, have a band aid.

Sarah (23:58):
Where they drilled into my skull to release the
pressure, which always makes methink it's gonna be like steam.
It's coming. It's like thepressure anyway.

Mark (24:08):
Mike Phones the only doctor in town and not Frodo's
girlfriend is also there.

Sarah (24:14):
Kimberly. Chalmers refers to the room at the front of the
theater as a foyer. Yes. So doeseveryone else. No.
People in New Zealand pronounceit the way we do in Indiana.
It's not a foyer. It's a foyer.

Mark (24:30):
Which is incorrect. It's a foyer. It's a different word.
It's the correct word.

Sarah (24:36):
It ends with ER, foyer. That's how we say it, and that's
how Chalmers says it. And I waslike, go Chalmers. Mispronounce
it like I do. Colin's alibi forthe murder is that he was taking
a pee from the fire escape.
And then fell. Because it's notto code. But don't you think he
would have known that door wouldclose behind him?

Mark (24:57):
And like more than reverend Green, he would have
been hurt.

Sarah (25:02):
Well, he lands in the big trash pile.

Mark (25:04):
And I do know that he And he's drunk.

Sarah (25:06):
Breaks a So he's

Mark (25:07):
loose. Leg. He breaks his leg.

Sarah (25:08):
And and cracks a couple of ribs or whatever. Yeah. But
smokers know what doors closebehind them and have door stops
to shove in the door. Yeah. Hewould know that door closes and
locks from the outside.
Absolutely. Unless he's toodrunk to think about it. Yes.
And just so excited to pee offthe fire escape. Like, that's a

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rough thing to have to admit youwere doing as your alibi.

Mark (25:36):
Poor Sims has to call, like, call on the brother and
the son. Like, oh, by the way,your dad's dead.

Sarah (25:43):
Mhmm. So let's talk about Patricia.

Mark (25:47):
Okay.

Sarah (25:48):
She who is the fundraiser for trying to protect the
theater and hosting the event.

Mark (25:53):
Now she lived in Brokenwood then had to leave.
We'll talk about why she had toleave. And then waits forty
years before coming back.

Sarah (26:02):
Mhmm.

Mark (26:03):
Now, she's been back for months but it's weird how
sometimes it comes off as shejust got back and other times
she's been back for years. Didyou get that?

Sarah (26:15):
Yeah. Like I think I think you're right, months. Not
long enough to be reestablished,but having lived there before
she's not new to town, she hasconnections I guess.

Mark (26:29):
Well, and you know I hate a everything in your life gets
better as you come back to town,your hometown. The town that you
grew up in.

Sarah (26:39):
Yeah. Because reconnecting to people you went
to high school with is always agreat thing to do.

Mark (26:43):
I could care less about that.

Sarah (26:46):
You're not gonna move back to?

Mark (26:48):
No. No. Not even when I'm in a box will I be returning to
Carlton Place.

Sarah (26:57):
So kinda let's summarize the situation here a little bit.
Yeah. Because we could get toointo the plot and not enough
into the fun stuff.

Mark (27:05):
Yes.

Sarah (27:05):
So Patricia has come back to town. She dated Lyle in high
school and thought that theywere going to be the love of
each other's lives, but she alsoslept with his brother. She got
pregnant, and her parents tookher away, right? But now she's
back, and she and Lyle haverekindled their relationship.

Mark (27:24):
Yes.

Sarah (27:25):
She wants to save the theater. He wants to develop the
block. And so they come to anegotiation where they will not
save the theater, but they willestablish a new movie
memorabilia museum because she's

Mark (27:42):
museum. She's a movie

Sarah (27:44):
Memorabilia Collector.

Mark (27:46):
Magpie, she says.

Sarah (27:47):
Yeah. Enough that she has her own company called Rosebud,
says and And is her last nameWells, or does she want to call
it the Wells? Her last name isWells. Okay. Yes.
That's funny, isn't it? Yes.Maybe she's connected doors.
Anyway, so they agree thatthey're going to burn down the
theater in what looks like anaccident when nobody's in the

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theater

Mark (28:09):
Yes.

Sarah (28:09):
Not murder people

Mark (28:11):
Yes.

Sarah (28:11):
To not necessarily to get insurance money, but just to
justify demolishing it.

Mark (28:17):
Ladies and gentlemen, we are twenty minutes into
discussing this episode, and wehave not even mentioned the
person who is the killer yet.

Sarah (28:26):
So so that's kind of like the the larger story of why
Patricia is involved and whyLyle is involved. Yep. And my
favorite part of this whole bigsetup is that there are
canisters of film in theprojection booth that are not

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the movie they're showing thatshould have been in a vault next
I assume a vault like that is atotally legit thing to have
because the film is soflammable. You you need And need
to protect and valuable.

Mark (29:01):
Yes.

Sarah (29:02):
Right? It's valuable. And Distributors would give a small
theater like this the reels fora new movie, and they couldn't
let them get out. Like, if itwas a new film that hadn't been
released yet, it's gotta go inthe vault. Yep.
Right? To be protected. Andthey're gonna come back and get
it. Right? When the run's done,like, give it you have to get it
back.

Mark (29:20):
Never mind these film canisters are as big or bigger
than, like, garbage can lids.

Sarah (29:26):
Yeah. They're big. They're So there's a stack of
film canisters

Mark (29:32):
I got a picture of

Sarah (29:33):
it. That are in the vault that then end up in the
projection booth when the firehappens, And we get a couple of
nice shots of the titles ofthese movies. None of them are
real, actual films. Nope. But Iwould like to talk about what
you think these movies areabout.

Mark (29:50):
I I've taken some time to come up with some answers.

Sarah (29:55):
So there are two canisters that say Rappahoe, The
Big Blast.

Mark (30:00):
So Rappahoe

Sarah (30:02):
Is Easter Island. It's actually Rappahoe. Rappahoe?
Yes. Thank you.

Mark (30:06):
It's Easter Island.

Sarah (30:08):
Of the famous big heads. Yes. What do you think that
movie is about?

Mark (30:12):
I believe that is about when the aliens came to Easter
Island with their giant headsand landed, causing an
earthquake, which caused a youngwoman to fall into
the arms of a native. See what I did there?

Sarah (30:32):
I I see what you did there. My theory is somewhat
similar.

Mark (30:37):
Okay.

Sarah (30:38):
So the people of Rapa Nui were self sufficient and
peaceful people for a very longtime. This is true in history.
This is true. They built theycarved the statues for their
ancestors, and it was a majorpart of their social system, was

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to carve these things as acommunity. Yes.
But archaeologists have foundthat basically, at one point,
they suddenly stopped. And theytheorized because they
overpopulated the island andsort of they ran out of
resources. And so that was anextravagance that they could no
longer support was spending somuch time carving these statues.

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So they just stopped, right?

Mark (31:22):
Yes.

Sarah (31:23):
And what they did after that this is a big digression,
but you'll see where I'm going.What they did after that to
replace that part of theirculture was they have a
competition every year to choosethe leader for the year called
the egg hunt, where potentialleaders are chosen from each

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family. And they go out, andthey have to find the specific
bird's egg. And the first one toget one and come back, that
tribe leads.

Mark (31:57):
This is the Easter egg hunt.

Sarah (31:59):
It's the Easter egg hunt.

Mark (32:01):
On Easter Island.

Sarah (32:03):
Though it's called Easter Island by the people who, the
Westerners who discovered itbecause they discovered it on
Easter. Discovered. Theydiscovered it. Yes. That's when
they discovered it.
Yes. It had already beendiscovered. So I think the big
blast is the first Easter egghunt on Easter Island where they

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decided it was like the bigparty.

Mark (32:27):
There we go. The big blast.

Sarah (32:28):
And you've just learned a little history about Rapa Nui.

Mark (32:31):
I did.

Sarah (32:31):
Now you know. Now I know. Return of a Little Ripper is the
second movie. What's that oneabout?

Mark (32:37):
I believe this is about

Sarah (32:39):
Oh, and by the way, there's two canisters about the
big blast. Yes. There's part oneand part two.

Mark (32:44):
I believe the Little Ripper is about It's return of
the Little Ripper. A child whomurders prostitutes in the
streets of Wellington again. Andhe's an alien.

Sarah (33:00):
Yeah. Because there must have been the Little Ripper
first, And this is Return of

Mark (33:04):
the Little Return the Little Ripper.

Sarah (33:06):
So I'm not sure about this one, because in Australian
slang, Little Ripper meansexcellent. Like Yeah. That's
really great.

Mark (33:14):
Yeah.

Sarah (33:15):
So this could also be about a party. The first one's
like, the Little Ripper. Like,it was a great time.

Mark (33:22):
A movie about can't be about parties.

Sarah (33:23):
And the second one is

Mark (33:25):
They're clearly all about aliens.

Sarah (33:26):
Return to the Little Ripper. Like, the party comes
back. Or a diminutive serialkiller. I mean, that's obvious,
right?

Mark (33:35):
Some places I think call strippers rippers too. Oh. I
think. Don't know about thatone.

Sarah (33:43):
How about Something Smells Fishy? That's the third

Mark (33:45):
movie. This is a romantic

Sarah (33:47):
drama. About fishy aliens?

Mark (33:49):
No. Oh, okay. Not every movie is about aliens.

Sarah (33:54):
Is it a bad party?

Mark (33:56):
It's a romantic detective movie in which a fish and chips
magnet is killed by his wifebefore expanding the business
into The US market. So he'sgonna create, he's gonna move a
whole bunch of fish and chipshops to The US market and have
them all over the placeincluding Bloomington, Indiana.

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But his his wife doesn't wanthim to do this, she wants him to
stay with her on New Zealand Andso she kills him and falls in
love with the detective andsomething smells fishy.

Sarah (34:30):
So my answer is a short silent film about a bunch of
people in a house smellingsomething fishy and trying to
find the source of the smell.

Mark (34:42):
By Andy Warhol.

Sarah (34:45):
How about what might be my favorite journey from Uranus?

Mark (34:51):
Okay. This movie clearly is about aliens.

Sarah (34:55):
Do you say Uranus or Uranus?

Mark (34:57):
Who come on a ship from Uranus Okay. With their fudge
guns to stop people telling badjokes about their planet name.
Okay.

Sarah (35:08):
I think it's an educational film about water
treatment plants. Yes.Excellent. Journey from Uranus.
And the last one, which hasgotta be the weirdest title,

Mark (35:22):
is called I have a doozy here.

Sarah (35:23):
Is called straining clay.

Mark (35:25):
Yes.

Sarah (35:26):
Which is something that potters do. Right? If you
harvest clay out of the ground

Mark (35:34):
Yes.

Sarah (35:34):
You have to you water it down. You make it into a slurry,
and you strain it through aseries of screens to get pebbles
and stuff out of it, and thenyou let the results dry out
until they're the consistencythat you want to sculpt with. So
that happens, but I can'timagine a film about that. So
what do you think it's about?

Mark (35:53):
This is a nineteen seventies sorry, early eighties
reaction film to the Mad Maxmovies from Australia, which
must have taken this region bystorm.

Sarah (36:04):
Mhmm.

Mark (36:05):
This is Australian's answer to the apocalyptic
Australian movie with their ownapocalyptic

Sarah (36:13):
New Zealand So it's Max. It's straining clay. No.

Mark (36:17):
Yes.

Sarah (36:17):
But that's the character's name.

Mark (36:19):
The only way they can get water is by straining clay,
getting the water out of clay.Oh.

Sarah (36:27):
I thought it was a person. No. Like Max is a
person.

Mark (36:30):
It could be though, but maybe the lead character's name
is Clay too.

Sarah (36:34):
Oh, double. And then aliens. I thought maybe it was a
documentary about Clay Aiken'scongressional campaigns in North
Carolina

Mark (36:43):
Maybe.

Sarah (36:43):
Where he ran for congress twice and lost twice.

Mark (36:46):
Maybe.

Sarah (36:47):
I'm sure it was a strain on

Mark (36:48):
him. I guess so.

Sarah (36:53):
Dorks. We're dorks.

Mark (36:54):
If you give us a bunch of movies and no context, we're
gonna come up with our own. Mikeimmediately okay. So the murder
happens. Okay. The murderhappens.
The fire starts. Mike runsupstairs with the fire
extinguisher, puts out the fire,calls Gina. What is his second

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call? I don't know. Before heteleports to the the hospital?
I don't know. He calls thegraphic design department at the
cop shop to make them a map ofthe theater.

Sarah (37:24):
Oh. Because It's a good map.

Mark (37:27):
The next more

Sarah (37:28):
He draws it on the dry erase board, doesn't he?

Mark (37:31):
No. It's a printed

Sarah (37:33):
Oh. Well it looks like it was made in PowerPoint though.
It's just squares and

Mark (37:37):
Okay. But somebody had to make that.

Sarah (37:40):
It's good.

Mark (37:40):
I also noticed if you noticed if you remember I had a
problem with Kristen's sign onher desk. What was the problem I
had with Kristen's sign on herdesk?

Sarah (37:50):
I don't remember.

Mark (37:51):
It pointed at Kristen. It was like reminding Kristen who
she was.

Sarah (37:55):
Oh, yeah.

Mark (37:56):
Which is not the purpose of a desk sign.

Sarah (37:58):
No. A a nameplate?

Mark (38:00):
Yeah. A nameplate. Chalmers is also in the same
place.

Sarah (38:05):
Also, on the night of the murder, Lyle, the victim, spends
some time with his PA, Cherry.Yes. And then sends her away to
go eat at a restaurant

Mark (38:17):
Yes.

Sarah (38:17):
Called Cowrie Cowboy Restaurant.

Mark (38:20):
Yes.

Sarah (38:20):
What is a cowboy restaurant?

Mark (38:24):
I guess that's like a steakhouse. This is not a real
restaurant, though. It lookslike a real restaurant.

Sarah (38:30):
There's a cow skull on wall. Does that count?

Mark (38:33):
Well, no. They have a printed sign that's on glass.
Yeah. There is a region calledKowri.

Sarah (38:40):
And maybe there are cowboys there? Maybe. They raise
cattle there?

Mark (38:43):
It's like a very touristy place.

Sarah (38:45):
So That makes sense.

Mark (38:47):
The biggest that that's not the biggest problem I have
with the episode, though. Thebiggest problem I have with the
episode is they changed Frodo'ssign. Yeah. They took all the
fun out of Frodo's sign.

Sarah (39:00):
Well, he's not there. Kimberly's running the coffee
shop. So, you know, if Frodo'snot there, he'd he's not there
to put the sign out.

Mark (39:07):
I guess. It's as weird as the constant references to
Norwalki Falls that go nowhere

Sarah (39:18):
where all the teens go to make out. Didn't you know that?
Everybody knows that.

Mark (39:23):
I get

Sarah (39:24):
I get So much so there are greeting cards from there

Mark (39:26):
I guess.

Sarah (39:27):
That look like they were printed on your printer. We also
get Bryony, the reverend Green'smysterious sister. Out of
nowhere. Out of nowhere?

Mark (39:38):
At first I thought she was gonna be homophobic.

Sarah (39:41):
She doesn't seem to be.

Mark (39:42):
But no, she is just succumbed by the wiles of
Oliver.

Sarah (39:48):
She's secretly in love with Oliver, her high school
sweetheart who's slept withPatricia, but she's long
forgiven her. But she came backto town a month ago and didn't
tell her brother because shedidn't want him to judge her.
Also, the What? He's a biblebeater, you know.

Mark (40:06):
The worst line in the episode is, I didn't know who
the father was.

Sarah (40:11):
Well, she didn't know if it was

Mark (40:13):
Lyle or You have made some poor life choices as a 15 year
old.

Sarah (40:18):
As a 15 year old, yeah.

Mark (40:20):
If you don't know who the father of your baby is.

Sarah (40:23):
Yeah. So much so that looking at the baby wouldn't
even give you a clue becausethey were brothers who looked
too much alike.

Mark (40:33):
Suddenly, Glenn appears.

Sarah (40:35):
For no reason at all.

Mark (40:37):
So if you don't remember,
if you don't have an The last time encyclopedic knowledge
jump rope

Sarah (40:42):
and Glenn was on a video call watching a bad zombie movie
with his girlfriend, the host ofAntiques Roadshow, who's a
killer.

Mark (40:50):
It's not a bad zombie movie. Remember, Tim Baum was
the star

Sarah (40:54):
of the set. Bad bad in quotation marks zombie movie.

Mark (40:59):
Chalmers and and Mike are like, what is that guy doing?

Sarah (41:04):
And we're like, what's that guy doing here?

Mark (41:06):
And he goes, oh, I decided to move to Brokenwood. Why would
he move to?

Sarah (41:12):
When your girlfriend kills somebody

Mark (41:15):
Who move to She's not from there.

Sarah (41:17):
No. Move to the scene of the crime.

Mark (41:20):
I I guess. This

Sarah (41:22):
is where my girlfriend killed a guy on a garrotting
chair. It's awesome.

Mark (41:26):
I guess. What? Mike finds a VCR.

Sarah (41:30):
Well, the library always has VCR tapes.

Mark (41:32):
I do not have a VCR. I do have a video disc player Yes,
but I do not have a VCR.

Sarah (41:38):
Let's talk about Gina's poor job performance.

Mark (41:42):
Okay. Gina sexually harasses Mike in this episode.
Mhmm. She also does not giverelevant information to Chalmers
that she should be giving tohim. Yes.
Sent by Mike. Yes. She alsotalks about talking to dead
people.

Sarah (41:59):
Which Mike does all the time. My problem is the way she
treats Chalmers. Yeah. That he'sthere for a professional reason
to find out the cause of deathand she refuses to tell him.

Mark (42:09):
At least he puts the forceps in the sink. So he picks
up a pair of forceps, and thenin a great moment of acting, the
actor does that look of, what amI doing? Why am I touching this?
Yeah. I shouldn't be touchingthis.
I'm in the middle of anotherconversation. I need to get this

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off
of my hand right now.
And he puts the forceps in the sink, and I was like, yes.

Sarah (42:37):
Well, know, Mark, the bear dances, but the tamer
collects the money.

Mark (42:41):
And I love that it cuts right then to Mike and
Chalmers going.

Sarah (42:46):
So in I'm the bear.

Mark (42:47):
Am I the bear?

Sarah (42:48):
Am I the tamer?

Mark (42:49):
Am I the tamer?

Sarah (42:51):
She's calling Chalmers an animal.

Mark (42:54):
Yes. Which is racist.

Sarah (42:56):
And saying well, it's just rude. Yeah. And saying that
she'll only give information tohis boss. Yeah. It's it's a fun
joke that she's so into Mikethat she finds excuses to be
around him.
But this I think this is toofar.

Mark (43:12):
I I I totally agree. Yeah. And that's not even the naked
bits of the episode because

Sarah (43:18):
We haven't mentioned the killer yet.

Mark (43:20):
No. We have not mentioned the character who's the killer.

Sarah (43:23):
We should mention the killer.

Mark (43:25):
Okay. So the woman who stars in the movie, Charlotte,
has

Sarah (43:29):
She lives at a nursing home. And she has a helper.
Named Ben.

Mark (43:33):
In the greatest coincidence of all time, who
happens to be the son

Sarah (43:37):
Of Patricia and Lyle or Oliver.

Mark (43:40):
Yes.

Sarah (43:43):
Who has taken this opportunity to come back to
Brokenwood with Charlotte toconfront

Mark (43:50):
His father.

Sarah (43:51):
Who he thinks is Lyle, but could be Oliver because
Patricia put Lyle down on thebirth certificate but didn't
really know. Yeah. And heconfronts him in the booth and
strangles him with film whichyou can't even do.

Mark (44:04):
You can't do. Why Mrs. Marlow is important is Charlotte
Chambers has a body doublebecause even though the actor
the director liked her, shewasn't going to appear naked in
the film.

Sarah (44:15):
But Mrs. Marlowe would.

Mark (44:17):
So this isn't

Sarah (44:18):
She's up for whatever. She's a wild lady.

Mark (44:21):
So this also implies going back to the very first thing you
talked about about this movie,that this movie is pre code.
Yeah. What that is is the HaysCode which was an American
thing, but a lot ofinternational cinema followed
it. Which before the Hays code,early twenties cinema was some

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racy stuff. Like, you look at anactress like Louise Brooks and
you're stunned what was filmedand what was placed on camera
and what was shown in theaters,which would be difficult even
today.
And that's that's why that wascut out of the film, that's why
there was a body double, that'swhy missus m appears naked, not

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in the episode, but in themovie.

Sarah (45:08):
You get to see her butt cheeks.

Mark (45:10):
We get to see missus m's butt cheeks.

Sarah (45:13):
Young missus m's butt cheeks. Yes. And that's the clip
that Reverend Green has that hewants put back in the movie.

Mark (45:21):
But missus m is not there.

Sarah (45:23):
No. Because she's off paragliding.

Mark (45:25):
Where is she supposed to be?
She's gonna paraglide. On vacation?

Sarah (45:31):
She's gonna paraglide off of a cliff

Mark (45:34):
Yes.

Sarah (45:35):
Into the ocean? I That's not where you wanna land.

Mark (45:38):
But where is she supposed to be? Is she in New Zealand?
Somewhere. In Australia? Or

Sarah (45:43):
Somewhere with good phone reception.

Mark (45:45):
I guess.

Sarah (45:50):
Because she's gotta answer the phone while she's
doing it.

Mark (45:52):
I was 15 and my parents didn't approve to, yeah.

Sarah (45:57):
That every day you're having sex with a different
member of this family out at thefalls?

Mark (46:01):
By the falls?

Sarah (46:02):
I'm not surprised. So Kane

Mark (46:08):
Did you notice that Cherry has a pug pillow?

Sarah (46:10):
A pug pillow? Yes. So Cain is Lyle's son. Yes. And
they fight.
Right? They argue a lot becauseCain knows that Lyle is having a
fling with his PA, Cherry.

Mark (46:28):
Who he has a crush on.

Sarah (46:29):
And Kane has a crush on Cherry, but Cherry does not
reciprocate that Kane's upsetbecause he's taken photographs
of the two of them together Yes.Which of course break Patricia's
heart because she thinks thatLyle, you know, is for her.

Mark (46:42):
The only one worse than Oliver is Lyle.

Sarah (46:45):
Yeah. But Kane's choice to resolve this is to go to
Cherry's house and walk bathroomwhile she's in the shower like a
scene from psycho.

Mark (46:56):
With a knife.

Sarah (46:57):
With a knife.

Mark (46:58):
And I think that's supposed to be more of a psycho
reference than it comes off as.Yeah. It it comes off as a
little forced and

Sarah (47:07):
He says he's go he goes to get the knife. He doesn't
have the knife when he firstcomes in. Yeah. But then she
closes the door and locks it,justifiably so. She's upset.
And he goes and gets a knife toopen that door. Okay, Kane, this
is a bad decision that you'remaking, and it's only getting
worse.

Mark (47:26):
I know why he's named Kane now. Why? Citizen Kane.

Sarah (47:32):
We're supposed to think that Lyle was a movie guy too?

Mark (47:35):
I guess.

Sarah (47:36):
Even though he has no connection to the

Mark (47:38):
I'll tell you what.

Sarah (47:38):
Theater other than as a piece of real estate.

Mark (47:41):
Chalmers is no movie guy. No.

Sarah (47:43):
Oh my gosh, him and Mike talking about movies is so
funny. Rosebud. Well, guess Idon't have to see it now. Yeah.
Because Mike does one line ofdialogue from Citizen Kane.

Mark (47:55):
Fast and Furious five. The first four weren't that good,
but the fifth one.

Sarah (48:00):
Have you seen that? Yes. Is it?

Mark (48:03):
No. Oh. They're all bad. Okay. They're all horrible,
horrible movies.

Sarah (48:08):
So long story short, Ben the nurse kills Lyle in the
projection booth during themovie because Lyle is a bastard.
So He's rude to Ben about beinghis son. Someone Ben loses it.

Mark (48:22):
Someone on IMDb gets to the root of the problem here.
Mhmm. The first twenty twominutes of this film, two people
fall asleep, a child wandersaround, the killer goes has a
vape and then goes has goesthrough this does the killing.
The rev goes up to splice thefilm together. The projectionist

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goes out like a million thingshappen in the first twenty two
minutes of this film beingshown.
Yeah. Way too much. And

Sarah (48:51):
the son And it must be boring.

Mark (48:52):
The son comes in.

Sarah (48:54):
Kane.

Mark (48:55):
Finds his dead dad and leaves without being seen by
anyone. Mhmm. Like, the hallwaysare populated by people.

Sarah (49:04):
Well, that's because Kimberly and Todd are out in the
alley.

Mark (49:07):
Yes.

Sarah (49:07):
So no one can see anything.

Mark (49:09):
I I guess. Todd

Sarah (49:12):
and Lyle can fit into the gap that Chalmers can barely fit
into.

Mark (49:17):
I I don't wanna be value judgey on Todd. He's selling the
organic sodas. Okay?

Sarah (49:23):
Mhmm.

Mark (49:24):
But maybe work is not the best place to be lighting up.

Sarah (49:28):
Todd and Kimberly work everywhere.

Mark (49:31):
They do work everywhere. That's true.

Sarah (49:33):
The farm, the wellness center

Mark (49:35):
Big daddy theater.
Big daddy photo is just taking in money in this episode.

Sarah (49:42):
I don't Frodo's off with missus Marlow.

Mark (49:44):
Maybe Frodo is off with missus Marlow on vacation.

Sarah (49:50):
Or maybe he's staying at Glen's house. Know, they swapped
houses for a while or something.

Mark (49:54):
Yes.

Sarah (49:54):
Literally, the inside of Oliver's house is red.
Everything is red? The just thewalls in every room are red.

Mark (50:02):
Well, I'm dying.

Sarah (50:03):
I kinda Woah.

Mark (50:04):
You just dropped that in the conversation?

Sarah (50:07):
I kinda like it. It's kinda pretty in one room, but
the choice to do it in everyroom is kind of, it's a lot.

Mark (50:15):
It's not the worst choice of the episode. The worst choice
of the episode was Ben actuallytakes a sip of Kristen's coffee.

Sarah (50:22):
Oh yeah. Wow. He's sorry for that, isn't he?

Mark (50:26):
He immediately pushes it away.

Sarah (50:31):
So what happens after the episode? Briony and Oliver stay
together until he dies, I guess?

Mark (50:38):
Okay. So, Briony and Oliver, since his brother's dead
now, he can't hit on any of hisbrother's girlfriends.

Sarah (50:47):
Mhmm.

Mark (50:47):
So I think they're okay until Oliver dies.

Sarah (50:51):
Yeah. I think Briony and Oliver are gonna stick together.

Mark (50:53):
Yes. I also think

Sarah (50:55):
Maybe Briony and Rev Green will make up and she'll
realize he's not bible beaterjudgy because he's gay anyway.
He's

Mark (51:02):
gay. The gay.

Sarah (51:04):
What what does he care?

Mark (51:05):
And that even though his partner Doctor. Plummer. Manages
to flirt with other men

Sarah (51:14):
Who are his former patients. I'm sorry. I know it's
against the law to to have anyshenanigans with your current
patient, but it's unethical tohave any shenanigans with your
former patient too. You stillhave that relationship with
them. I'm sorry.
It's not okay.

Mark (51:27):
The doctor is only there to look guilty. Mhmm. Everything
he does makes him look guilty.And that's the way that
character has been since thevery beginning.

Sarah (51:37):
Well, and to be sad Yes. He's worried about about the
rev.

Mark (51:41):
Oh, so so then okay. So Oliver's gonna die. Briony's
gonna

Sarah (51:47):
Go back to wherever she Wellington.

Mark (51:49):
Go back to wherever she was. Kane inherits everything.
Kane owns the theater now.

Sarah (51:56):
Yeah. Is he gonna do any time for breaking into Cherry's
house?

Mark (52:00):
I think he should probably at least go see a therapist.
Yeah. He's got a lot going on.

Sarah (52:05):
But don't think he's gonna go to prison.

Mark (52:07):
I don't think he'll go to prison. I don't think Cherry

Sarah (52:10):
will She has to choose to press charges.

Mark (52:11):
Don't think she'll press charges. Sherry's out of a job
because Yeah. He's not gonna runthe company. He's probably got
school on Monday.

Sarah (52:20):
Yeah. He looks pretty young. He rides that bike
around. Glenn is gonna stay intown. Missus Marlowe

Mark (52:26):
is better. Glenn is in the next episode.

Sarah (52:28):
What about Patricia? Is she gonna they didn't actually
like the theater on fire. Sothough they were colluding

Mark (52:35):
I think she's gonna pay a fine because Mike's pissed at
her for doing that. Yeah. Ithink they'll pay she'll pay a
fine, but I don't think I don'tthink the theater is gonna
survive. I don't think

Sarah (52:48):
Well Colin's out of a job then. The only thing he knows
how to do is run a protector.Colin

Mark (52:53):
Colin needs to steal the movies back and go sell them on
eBay and then buy a pack ofsmokes.

Sarah (53:00):
And a bottle of whiskey.

Mark (53:02):
And go out on his roof, pee to his heart's content.

Sarah (53:08):
He can go with Mrs. Marlowe and pee off that cliff.

Mark (53:11):
I guess.

Sarah (53:11):
The wind would just blow it right back on you, wouldn't
it? You'd you'd end up being allover yourself. And that,
maniacs, is exposed to the lighton that note. Luckily,

Mark (53:28):
the show ends with a naughty bits theater thing.

Sarah (53:33):
That was weird. The restored version of the film
with missus Marlow's butt inprime place.

Mark (53:38):
So now they had to watch that movie, that bad horrible
movie again?

Sarah (53:43):
No. Just that part.

Mark (53:44):
Just that part.

Sarah (53:45):
I think it's fun that they do that. Yes. I think it's
fun that she's proud of it.

Mark (53:49):
I love all of that. But wow.

Sarah (53:54):
So not only is the film exposed to the light, missus
Marlowe's butt is exposed to thelight. Hence, the title of the
episode.

Mark (54:01):
Moon over moon over Uranus's. Journey. Over missus
m's Uranus.

Sarah (54:08):
Something smells fishy.

Mark (54:10):
Mhmm.

Sarah (54:11):
What? What what is episode six?

Mark (54:15):
Episode number six

Sarah (54:17):
Of season seven is

Mark (54:19):
Here's to you missus Robinson. Have you forgotten
this episode? Yep. This is whenSims goes to solve the murder at
the seventies swinger party.

Sarah (54:31):
Oh, that's right. Because Mike's away mysteriously. Yep.
Oh, Sims has to solve one on herown.

Mark (54:36):
Yep. Kristen is left to lead the investigation of a
nineteen seventies party. It's aswinger party.

Sarah (54:42):
Party, isn't it?

Mark (54:43):
It's a key party. Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah (54:45):
So we have that to look forward to next week. Yep.
Anything else?

Mark (54:49):
That will be coming out on the July 7. On the July 2, the
newsletter will be coming out.

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Mark (55:16):
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Sarah (55:31):
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Sarah (55:33):
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