October 13, 2025 • 49 mins
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Mystery Maniacs Episode! In Podcast 249, a killer uses a light to kill in a room full of murder magnets who should not wear skinny jeans. Stop singing, you're going to be arrested!
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Mark (00:00):
He doesn't know what a good superhero is, but that's
(00:03):
okay.
Sarah (00:04):
Likes Spider Man over Batman.
Mark (00:06):
Children can learn that Batman is better than Spider
Man. It's a
Sarah (00:23):
Hey, maniacs.
Mark (00:25):
Hey, mystery maniacs. Mystery maniacs is a comedy
recap podcast dedicated tomystery TV. Each week, we dig
into an episode of a showincluding the murders, the
mayhem, the loonies, andeverything else we love. This
week, the Brokenwood Mysteries.
Sarah (00:42):
Season nine, episode one. Brokenwood. The musical.
Mark (00:46):
The musical. I'm not going to sing.
Sarah (00:49):
It's so bad.
Mark (00:50):
I'm Mark.
Sarah (00:51):
I hate his gloves. I'm just gonna say it. They're dirty
and gross, and they
Mark (00:59):
freak me out. That's okay. He's dirty and gross too.
Sarah (01:03):
I just had to get it out. I'm Sarah, by the way.
Mark (01:07):
This is a spoiler podcast. So we give away who the killer
is
Sarah (01:10):
We're gonna wear it.
Mark (01:11):
And what gloves he wears. Well, he
Sarah (01:13):
he's the
Mark (01:14):
He's the victim. But and if you let your kids go to
musicals, which I recommend thatyou don't. Why? Because I hate
musicals.
Sarah (01:23):
They just get songs stuck in their heads.
Mark (01:25):
And then I had a child who chose to do musicals and I went
to a bunch of musicals and Istill don't like them.
Sarah (01:31):
I would rather have to go see a child perform in a musical
than have to watch Frozen 40times a day or something like
Yes. Which a lot of our friendswho have younger kids have been
exposed to.
Mark (01:41):
Yes.
Sarah (01:42):
Yeah. I'll take it.
Mark (01:43):
Ladies and gentlemen, hockey is upon us, baseball is
upon us, Toronto is winning allover the place. I'm a happy boy
when it comes to sports.
Sarah (01:54):
Good for you, the rest of us. But Follow it.
Mark (01:58):
I wanna start off the show talking about Midsummer Live. So
Midsummer Live is a on stageproduction that we've talked
about a couple of times.
Sarah (02:09):
Mhmm.
Mark (02:09):
First of all, we give Midsummer social media nothing
but crap. We give them crap allthe time.
Sarah (02:17):
Mhmm.
Mark (02:18):
We have said not very nice things. Their video for the
Midsummer live shows isexcellent.
Sarah (02:27):
Yeah. We saw it on Instagram. Right? Yes.
Mark (02:29):
Yeah. It has all the good stuff that we would expect to
see in it. Mhmm. And then DanielCasey as Barnaby at the end.
Sarah (02:37):
I think he's gonna be great.
Mark (02:39):
I think so. His sergeant is played by James Bradwell, who
some of you might know fromBridgerton. Mhmm. This is a big
get for them, I bet.
Sarah (02:50):
Mhmm.
Mark (02:51):
This is this is quite the
Sarah (02:52):
I think Daniel Casey is kind of a big get.
Mark (02:54):
I think so too. There are a lot of dates. Right? So it
starts on the October 24 inLondon and goes all the way to
the June 6 and their final showsare in Dublin.
Sarah (03:09):
That's awesome. I So that's lots of opportunities for
you who are over there
Mark (03:13):
Yes.
Sarah (03:13):
To go and see it and be a correspondent Yes. For the
podcast.
Mark (03:17):
That's what we need you to do. Yes. We need correspondents
to be taking pictures andmeeting people, and especially
if you meet other maniacs. Wedefinitely wanna hear about
that.
Sarah (03:30):
And we wanna talk to you and see what it was like.
Mark (03:32):
Yes. We wanna hear about to go. About what it was like.
Sarah (03:36):
If you are planning to go, if you have tickets already,
email us atmysterymaniacspodcast@Gmail.com.
Let us know when you're gonnago. Yep. We'll put together a
schedule of interviews of peoplewho are going to go so we can
talk to them after they havebeen.
Mark (03:51):
Absolutely. Because midsummer, new midsummer dates
are imminent and we'll talk moreabout those at the end of the
show but we're expecting newmidsummer season 25 in December
on Acorn. But that informationhas not been released yet.
Sarah (04:08):
No. We don't know yet.
Mark (04:09):
Yes. But we have been watching Evensong on Acorn,
which is excellent.
Sarah (04:15):
I I really like Evensong so far. I I the actress who
plays his mother, whose name I Idon't know. I should have found
it. Her name in Nutrix. She wasthe the female Yes.
DCI in Nutrix.
Mark (04:28):
Amanda Redmond.
Sarah (04:29):
Yeah. She's great, And she's super good as his mom.
Yes. Matthew Lewis, you mightknow him as Neville Longbottom
when he was a kid in the HarryPotter movies. He's grown And I
so far, think they're reallythey're set in the eighties,
which is kind of interesting.
So well worth a watch.
Mark (04:46):
It's it's definitely set in the eighties, but isn't
overwhelmed by eighties made upculture, I guess, you would say.
Sarah (04:54):
Yeah. I mean, it touches on current events, though, like
the AIDS epidemic, and the musicis current to then.
Mark (05:02):
What we learned was that Richard Coles, who wrote it, was
in not only Bronsky beat, butthe communards as well.
Sarah (05:09):
Couple of bands that half of us probably have never heard
of, but
Mark (05:13):
But we're definitely eighties To
Sarah (05:16):
go from an eighties kind of punky band to being a
reverend and an author and acomedian is kind of a Quite the
art.
Mark (05:23):
He he's had quite the life. He is a he has a memoir
out from pop to preacher, thinkit's called, that I may read
after I finish Evensong, thefirst book. Cool. Because I
think he he definitely had aninteresting life.
Sarah (05:36):
We've also been watching the new season of Karen Peary on
BritBox.
Mark (05:40):
If you need a reminder, she's the millennial detective
with the fanny pack. And thepopped collar. Yes. So I had not
noticed this in the firstepisode. The first episode, one
of the very sub sub sub subplotsis that her sergeant, who she
calls Mintz, because his name isMurray, because Murray Mintz is
(06:03):
a thing Mhmm.
Said that she had a nickname andthen he tries to say not what it
is. And later on she asks whatit is. And at one point he says,
Fanny Pack. And she looks at himlike, what?
Sarah (06:25):
Because because that means the fanny's quite
different Yeah. In The UK. Andthey don't call it a fanny pack.
They call it a bum bag. Yes.
Right? Which if we we heard bumbag, we would that's not very
flattering either. It and to befair, it's not flattering as she
wears it. No. But it's a goodshow.
If you watch the first season,you'll like the second season so
far. If you didn't watch thefirst season, it's worth it's
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worth a watch. Yeah. KarenPeary.
Mark (06:47):
It's fun. Definitely good. And then I wanted to make a note
that we've mentioned somethingwicked this way comes on the
podcast before, and we lamentedthat it was unavailable on any
streaming service.
Sarah (07:01):
Not that it's a mystery. It's a Ray Bradbury story. It's
a creepy kids movie. Yes. TheDisney movie that was gone?
Disappeared? Very For a longtime. Halloweeny. Yeah. It's on
and now it's on Disney plus.
Yes. So you can watch it overand over and over again.
Mark (07:19):
Oh, I've only watched it twice so far. It is so epically
Halloween y.
Sarah (07:26):
Yeah. And Jonathan Price is in it. A young Jonathan
Price. Doctor
Mark (07:30):
mister Dark, and Jason Robarts is in it as well.
Sarah (07:33):
Speaking Jonathan Price is in that, along with Isn't
Something Wicked This Way Comes,and Jonathan Price is also in
Slow Horses
Mark (07:42):
Yes.
Sarah (07:42):
With Gary Old man, who is awesome, based on the books by
Nick Heron. It's on Apple Plus.It's the fifth season.
Mark (07:51):
Yes.
Sarah (07:51):
It's so good. It's very, very good. If you haven't
watched Slow Horses yet, goback, watch it if you've got
access to Apple Plus. And if youdid, oh, don't miss the new
season. It's it's probably Ithink it may be one of the best.
I mean, it's the best one. It'smy favorite book of the series.
Yeah. So it's, yeah, reallygood.
Mark (08:11):
It's super good.
Sarah (08:12):
On a side note, if you follow Midsommar Murders on
Instagram, I don't know if theyposted it other places.
Mark (08:20):
Band posted on Reddit too.
Sarah (08:22):
A band with an odd name wrote and released a song about
Barnaby that the MidsommarMurders official account cross
posted and promoted with like alittle music video. Because the
song is called Barnaby, and it'sabout Barnaby.
Mark (08:38):
Mister Barnaby is what it's called.
Sarah (08:40):
The name of the band is Shit Baby Mammals.
Mark (08:43):
Yes.
Sarah (08:46):
The post says, though the band has a naughty name, we
really like the song. I havemixed feelings about the song.
It's fun.
Mark (08:55):
It's a little weird that it's a song about John Nettles
whose birthday it is today. He's82 This Saturday. That we're
we're recording. But not aboutthe new Barnaby.
Sarah (09:08):
No. It's it says something like, give me give me
my
Mark (09:11):
Old Barnaby. Yeah.
Sarah (09:13):
The old guy back. The o g or something. Yeah. Like, it
it's purposefully against thenew Barnaby.
Mark (09:19):
Which seems weird, but, you know, we've mentioned in
this
Sarah (09:23):
show people have that opinion.
Mark (09:25):
That Midsummer social media is a bit weird.
Sarah (09:30):
Yeah. But it's kind of a fun song
Mark (09:32):
Yes.
Sarah (09:33):
By a band who has a very brave name. Yes. It's kind of a
limiting name, I think. You'rekinda putting a cap on how
popular you're gonna be when youname your band Shit Baby
Mammals.
Mark (09:46):
Yeah.
Sarah (09:47):
Are you ready to talk about Brokenwood?
Mark (09:49):
Brokenwood the musical was aired in the 04/10/1939. Oh my
gosh.
Sarah (09:58):
One hundred years ago.
Mark (10:00):
02/2023. Like last week basically. Like a mere two years
ago. Directed by Katie Wolf whois the woman who played the
spider expert in the early onepisodes and written by Timothy
Baum. Katie Wolf and TimothyBaum had a meeting and said,
let's write some silly songsabout Brokenwood and have every
(10:21):
single guest star we've ever hadin a single episode.
Sarah (10:26):
It's not everybody, but it's a lot.
Mark (10:28):
It's a lot.
Sarah (10:29):
You can't have a mystery show set in a small town and not
have a theater group that hastons of internal drama.
Mark (10:37):
Midsummer's done it all sorts of
Sarah (10:40):
You can't have a small theater troupe in a small town
without having a prima donna runit.
Mark (10:47):
Yes. Midsummer's done it twice.
Sarah (10:49):
Somebody who is The way too big for their
Mark (10:54):
off market Kurgan episode also the very it's like third
episode.
Sarah (11:05):
Off market Kirk. That's what we call that. He's gonna
get.
Mark (11:09):
That is a deep, deep,
Sarah (11:12):
deep You're talking about the episode with the performance
of Amadeus Yes. At the cornmarket where where Joyce is on
stage when the guy slits his ownthroat.
Mark (11:22):
Oh, and and by the way, if you go to see Midsummer live,
wear your maniacs merch. How you
Sarah (11:28):
know what I'm saying. How you recognize each other. Just a
tote bag, you know, something.Carry a mug. I don't care.
Mark (11:34):
And a group picture of all the maniacs there there that
night would All be two.
Sarah (11:38):
Oh my gosh. That would be awesome. All two people.
Mark (11:41):
We would go, but I'm scared to leave the country
anyway.
Sarah (11:45):
Anyway. Yeah, so you can't have small town mystery
without having a theater troupe.A musical theater troupe, I
think, takes the drama toanother level. I think people
who perform musicals, becausethey have a plethora of talents
Mark (11:58):
Yes.
Sarah (11:58):
Are maybe more dramatic as people.
Mark (12:02):
I don't know. These these groups are everywhere.
Sarah (12:04):
And Kristen got a haircut.
Mark (12:05):
Yes. The group the town that I grew up in had a group
that was called the MississippiMudds that performed shows just
like this.
Sarah (12:17):
Were they about Carleton Place Canada?
Mark (12:19):
No. But they they did musicals and
Sarah (12:22):
But did they write their own? They sometimes did.
Mark (12:25):
And we went to every one of them because we were so bored
that it was exciting to go tosomething.
Sarah (12:32):
We forgot the Pirates of Penzance Midsummer.
Mark (12:35):
Yes. That's the Well, that's the Kurgan one.
Sarah (12:37):
Oh, that's right. That's Kurgan. Never mind.
Mark (12:41):
There can only be one. Off brand Kurgan. Wow. We're so deep
in the rest.
Sarah (12:49):
I think Kristen's hair looks great. I like her new
haircut.
Mark (12:53):
I think she has a new girlfriend, which is she goes
everywhere with Gina now. Yeah.Mike's by himself, and we find
out why at the end of theepisode. But mostly, it's
because he didn't get unmarriedand didn't tell anyone.
Sarah (13:09):
All I have to say is I love it like crazy where no one
is lazy. Dogs don't have rabies.Let's settle down and have some
babies.
Mark (13:19):
That has some fantastic
Sarah (13:21):
AI would do a better job Yeah. Writing lyrics than that.
Yes. Terry Weaver deserves thatlight fixture.
Mark (13:29):
For a number of reasons. He is a despicable human being
that deserves to die.
Sarah (13:35):
Not just for his parents.
Mark (13:36):
Think you should kill anybody, but if you're in a cozy
mystery and you kill a personfor this reason, I might let you
get away with it.
Sarah (13:43):
I kind of like plots where the most despicable,
unlikable person is also thevictim.
Mark (13:49):
Yes. I can understand.
Sarah (13:51):
Because then we don't have to see them very much.
Mark (13:53):
I totally understand that.
Sarah (13:55):
When you start watching a show and you're like, oh, I hate
that character. Yes. I hope theyget killed.
Mark (14:00):
Yes. You
Sarah (14:02):
feel a little bad, but not not a lot. Yeah. Not a lot
bad. It also includes Frodorapping and break dancing.
Mark (14:09):
One thing we are not going to do one thing we are not going
to do is go through everyShakespeare reference No. In
this production because they'reall over the place in this show.
And I do wanna bring up that thewoman who does the country song
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Mhmm. And the Crab Shack song
Sarah (14:34):
Mhmm.
Mark (14:34):
Is on the poster. Okay? He tells her that she should get a
starring role and sing twosongs.
Sarah (14:43):
Okay? You're talking about Sue. Sue. Because she gets
to play Crab Shack Jenny. Yes.
Mark (14:48):
But purveyor of
Sarah (14:50):
fish based meals.
Mark (14:52):
That's what he In the scene where he offers her the
role because he says she's tooold to play Settler Mary or
whatever it is. There is theposter of her in costume in the
background.
Sarah (15:07):
Mhmm.
Mark (15:08):
That's that's a problem. Mhmm.
Sarah (15:10):
And they're in the theater too. Yeah. Like that's
the that's the poster.
Mark (15:14):
Well, that's okay that when it's in the theater because
that would be promotion but thiswhen they have the discussion to
ask her to do those parts
Sarah (15:23):
Oh, and she's already playing the part in the picture?
Mark (15:25):
She's already playing the
Sarah (15:26):
Gotcha. Part in the see. Yeah. That's kind of time wise
impossible, isn't it?
Mark (15:31):
No. So Frodo
Sarah (15:32):
Unless he tricked her into putting the costume on and
took the photo and told her thatthat was the settler lady
costume.
Mark (15:39):
Maybe, except it's got a crab. Tonight, the player of
Statue Of Liberty will be playedby Terry Weaver. I love how
they're just completely like,oh, okay.
Sarah (15:52):
It's a pretty fancy theater to have one of those
lifts that comes from under thefloor.
Mark (15:57):
Yeah. It
Sarah (15:58):
is. That's pretty snazzy for a small theater.
Mark (16:00):
It is indeed. Frodo raps.
Sarah (16:03):
And breakdances. Don't forget. It's breakdances.
Mark (16:06):
It's sad that I have to say that bro Frodo is probably a
better breakdancer than he is arapper.
Sarah (16:11):
He's not saying much. So we've got
Mark (16:14):
Then by the way, Frodo has the easiest gig in this.
Sarah (16:18):
Oh, yeah.
Mark (16:18):
He sings. He does the little rap thing.
Sarah (16:20):
And then looks sad.
Mark (16:21):
He dances. He does one interview with Mike, and then
he's there at the end to tellthe other guy not to clap. Yeah.
And that is it.
Sarah (16:33):
And just looks sad in the background in the meantime.
Mark (16:36):
Yep.
Sarah (16:36):
So we've got Vicky and Timothy, who are the main
characters in the musical, whoare a couple
Mark (16:43):
Yes.
Sarah (16:44):
Who are as sweet as they can be Very, very sweet. Todd
Yes. And Frodo.
Mark (16:49):
Todd who
Sarah (16:50):
Todd has more jobs than Frodo. Yes. Roger Yes. The
psychiatrist who is the partnerof the reverend. Also
Psychiatrist who attractsmurder.
Mark (17:01):
With Todd, Frodo, and the doctor, there is no way someone
is not dying in this They
Sarah (17:08):
shouldn't be allowed to be in any kind of activities
together.
Mark (17:11):
All murder magnets.
Sarah (17:13):
And then Sue, who is Crab Shack Jenny, and Missy Yes. The
water tester
Mark (17:19):
Yes.
Sarah (17:20):
And then Terrence Weaver who is the director, writer Yes.
Asshole in the glove. Hisgloves.
Mark (17:26):
Does he have the gloves on when he's dressed up
Sarah (17:28):
as Always. Sorry. No. I actually don't think he has them
on when he's dressed up as theStatue Of Liberty because I
remember in the flashback scene,he touches Vicky's costume. Yes.
And I think he's gonna get greenpaint on that white dress.
Mark (17:44):
Yeah.
Sarah (17:45):
Don't touch her.
Mark (17:46):
Yes. Well, he shouldn't touch her for a number of
reasons.
Sarah (17:48):
Oh, for a million reasons. Yeah.
Mark (17:50):
So And the return
Sarah (17:51):
of Rafe Sinjin.
Mark (17:53):
Yes. The man with two pretentious names. Rafe and
Singin.
Sarah (17:58):
So he's the second character who has killed
someone, gone to prison, andcome back. Yes. Him and Trudy.
Mark (18:05):
Him and Trudy.
Sarah (18:06):
Trudy is fantastic in this episode. Like,
Mark (18:08):
got removed from prison super easily. Removed? Like, got
let out of prison. Yeah.
Sarah (18:14):
Yeah. He should be doing more time than he's done.
Mark (18:17):
Yes. And the doctor comes out with no pants on as Captain
Cook. Everybody laughs. He's abrave actor.
Sarah (18:25):
Yeah. He's dedicated.
Mark (18:27):
He's got some decent legs on him for a man his age.
Sarah (18:30):
I love that the the costume shirt is just long
enough to leave you wondering ifhe has anything underneath it.
Mark (18:36):
Indeed it does.
Sarah (18:39):
Tighty whities probably.
Mark (18:40):
Yes. So I have in my notes in a room full of murder
magnets, obviously a light isgonna fall on somebody's head.
And what do you know? Whilesinging The Star Spangled
Banner, he gets hit by a light.
Sarah (18:54):
Can we just talk about Terry's despicableness? Okay.
Get it out of
Mark (18:58):
the way. Okay. Let's get this out of
Sarah (19:00):
the way. Because his gloves really gross me out.
Mark (19:04):
We heard the gloves.
Sarah (19:07):
But beyond that, he's a liar?
Mark (19:10):
Let let's get to the end and the reason for the killing,
but before that, he is fakingout everybody in this
production.
Sarah (19:19):
Yeah. Well, it's he get the funding to put it on. He he
lied to the mayor and and showedhim letters supporting the
production that were fake fromproducers and Broadway and
stuff. Like, he's justfabricated everything. I mean,
the dude is a loser.
He lives in a one bedroomapartment Yep. That is just full
of his grossness.
Mark (19:39):
He's trying to sell it a theater production that you
could put on anywhere,especially in The United States.
Sarah (19:45):
Especially any town that ends in wood. Yes.
Mark (19:49):
The one they mention is Castlewood, South Dakota, which
is actually a real place.
Sarah (19:56):
It's not hard to find places that end in wood. I wanna
know what Terry does with the$100 he gets from the city
because it's certainly not inthis production.
Mark (20:04):
Yeah. And and okay. No community the size of Brokenwood
is giving a $100 to anything
Sarah (20:11):
They wouldn't have a tax base
Mark (20:12):
to pay for that. Road construction.
Sarah (20:15):
No. They'd have to get like a grant
Mark (20:17):
Yes.
Sarah (20:17):
I would think.
Mark (20:18):
And you can't don't do that to the mayor. Don't do that
to the mayor. No. The mayor isthe nicest guy in the world.
Sarah (20:25):
And a pharmacist.
Mark (20:26):
Yes. He's super helpful. Don't do that to me.
Sarah (20:31):
But he falls for it. Suddenly he's gullible.
Mark (20:34):
Then on top of all of it, he's both culturally
appropriating people andsexually assaulting. Oh.
Sarah (20:42):
That scene with Vicky in his room, I just wanna go Just
headbutt him. Just punch him.
Mark (20:48):
And she does headbutt him. No.
Sarah (20:50):
She kicks him in the crotch.
Mark (20:51):
Oh, she does. That's right.
Sarah (20:52):
Which It's okay too.
Mark (20:54):
And I wanna say that Brokenwood actually does a
really good job of placing herin peril, giving him, like,
saying the horrible things thathe would say
Sarah (21:05):
Mhmm.
Mark (21:05):
But still remaining cozy.
Sarah (21:08):
Mhmm.
Mark (21:09):
It it there's
Sarah (21:10):
no Because nothing happens to her. She gets away.
Mark (21:12):
She gets away.
Sarah (21:14):
But the fact that he tries to attack her, and when he
sees he's not going to get awaywith that, he doesn't just give
up. He says, well, who's goingto believe you that nothing
happened? Yeah. Like just whenyou think he's hit the bottom,
he digs a little deeper, andthen he plays the Statue Of
Liberty, sings like crap.
Mark (21:35):
Yep. Just
Sarah (21:38):
No. No. Anyhow, he dies. Yes. Oh, darn.
Mark (21:43):
Now there was one thing, and then we're not gonna go
through everything. We're notgonna through
Sarah (21:47):
it point by point. No.
Mark (21:48):
No. But I did wanna mention that when they do the
scene of the crime thing, Mikeasked, what is this x on the
floor? And Chalmers and Simsshare a look. And I think that
is some reference to Neil Raynot knowing where to stand and
see
Sarah (22:06):
Not hitting his mark? Not hitting his mark. I think you
might be reading into it. But ifyou're right, it's funny.
Mark (22:12):
It it it's really on the nose. Right? And they've done
theater stuff before. Well,yeah. So I think it's kinda on
the nose.
So.
Sarah (22:25):
The other character we've not mentioned is Grey Jenkins,
who is the mayor's partner.
Mark (22:32):
And the costumer in town.
Sarah (22:34):
Yeah. He's great. Yes. I was I I didn't know if I liked
him. Yeah.
But I really like him. I reallylike Trudy in this episode. Yes.
And I really like Missy in thisepisode.
Mark (22:46):
Missy is fantastic.
Sarah (22:47):
Missy is abrasive, but good.
Mark (22:51):
And her explanation of missing her date with Chalmers
is on the nose.
Sarah (22:58):
Yeah. And she's right to want to explain it to him first.
Before telling Kristen.
Mark (23:04):
All completely.
Sarah (23:05):
What I really like that they did though, they do a good
job with her character becauseshe is super abrasive and super
standoffish and stands up forherself almost to a fault. But
like in the scene where she's inthe cafe and she sees Vicky
after they've had a couple ofrehearsals before Missy leaves
the show, it's like genuinefriendship between her and
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Vicky. Like she's a warm personto people that she likes.
Mark (23:31):
She can sing. Yeah. That actress can sing. Yeah. When
she's asked to be the culturaladvisor, she's like, I'm not
qualified for that.
Mhmm. I understand my culture,but that doesn't mean that I
should be a cultural adviser.That shows a maturity of a
person.
Sarah (23:50):
Yeah. Yeah. I just like her. I like what they do with
her character in this episode.Yes.
Absolutely. Chalmers Kristencalls Chalmers a Nigel no mates
Mark (24:02):
Yes.
Sarah (24:02):
For being stood up Yes. For the date with Missy.
Mark (24:06):
Nigel no mates.
Sarah (24:07):
I've never heard Nigel no mates, but I like it.
Mark (24:10):
So Frodo gets interviewed, and he gets asked about seeing a
gentleman dressed as a Jew. AndFrodo goes, I'm going full froed
here, and calls him an acidic
Sarah (24:23):
Jew. Yeah. But it's it's it's worse than even that,
because the reason why Rafe isdressed like that is because
when he played Shylock, that'show he portrayed Shylock.
Mark (24:38):
As a Hasidic Jew, which has nothing to do with that
play.
Sarah (24:42):
No. Rafe Rafe is also contemptible, but he's
absolutely deluded. He's justbroken.
Mark (24:49):
Yes.
Sarah (24:50):
You know?
Mark (24:50):
And I love how the lawyer says he he's deluded. And
Kristen goes, yeah. We know. Hekilled
Sarah (24:58):
somebody. The last time he was involved in any kind of
theater, somebody died becauseof him. Because he's jealous and
wanted to play Hamlet, thoughhe's like 70.
Mark (25:10):
Yeah.
Sarah (25:12):
I love him reciting Shakespeare at the Snake and
Tiger though.
Mark (25:15):
Yes.
Sarah (25:16):
Dressed in all black like a beatnik with his little
keyboard.
Mark (25:18):
True. He's like, I let him on at two. Yeah. He's like, not
at lunch. No.
No. I wanna keep
Sarah (25:26):
stuff. I believe in a second chance, but I still have
to run a business. And then shesays that he's he's causing her
regulars to drink more becausethey're trying to, like, tune
him out with alcohol orsomething. So he's good for
business.
Mark (25:40):
I think in this episode, they also do a fantastic job
with Gina.
Sarah (25:45):
Mhmm. Yeah. She's fun.
Mark (25:47):
Particularly the shoelaces twister thing.
Sarah (25:53):
I wanna know how many times she had to shoot that
scene to get her wrist soquickly. Like, did they have to
put a wire in her shoestring sothat it would stay the loop
would stay open enough for herto put her hand in it that
quickly?
Mark (26:05):
I guess because
Sarah (26:06):
she does a really good job at it.
Mark (26:08):
She does a very good job. Kristen's super nosy at the
beginning of this episode, butthen not at the end. Mhmm. And I
think that's okay. Oh my gosh.
You know, the the trivia andgoof section of IMDb is a
battleground of stupidity.
Sarah (26:29):
It often is.
Mark (26:30):
And the note about the sword of Damocles in this
episode was, like, so incrediblypedantic. Actually, it's not the
king who's in the chair.Whatever. It works. You're
missing the point.
Yes.
Sarah (26:48):
Congratulations. You showed how smart you are. Are
you happy? Yes. Are you proud?
Go away.
Mark (26:54):
What's that?
Sarah (26:54):
Rafe is so delusional that he goes to the grave of the
man that he killed. To doYorick. Yeah. Over a grave, and
Gray shows up and is furious.And I'm like, you tell him.
Because Rafe is so out of it,like just out of touch,
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inconsiderate, self absorbed.And Rafe is like, but it was a
mistake. And Grey says, 60 yearold men wearing skinny jeans is
a mistake. You killed somebody.You killed somebody.
Mark (27:30):
That is the line I of the
Sarah (27:34):
like that line. The cops at the cop shop are drinking
soda out of glass bottles. Whatare they drinking?
Mark (27:40):
They're drinking karma soda.
Sarah (27:42):
What's that?
Mark (27:42):
That's the thing they've mentioned in the last five
episodes.
Sarah (27:46):
But now it's in a glass bottle?
Mark (27:47):
It's always been in a glass bottle.
Sarah (27:49):
Oh, I thought it was in a can. Nope. Well, that explains
it.
Mark (27:51):
Ass over kite. Is that a New Zealand thing?
Sarah (27:55):
Because it's ass over kettle. Yeah. Because you're
carrying a kettle and you falland you trip like, you trip so
badly. Yeah. Who gets married atthe snake and tiger?
Mark (28:05):
I don't
Sarah (28:06):
know. Because they're planning quite the reception
there. Yes. They actually kindof make it look nice, Sort sort
of. By just hiding everything.
Maybe it's the only venue intown. It looks really big
Mark (28:19):
It does.
Sarah (28:20):
When they've got everything out of it.
Mark (28:21):
It does.
Sarah (28:22):
What's her name? The the wedding planner lady does a good
job.
Mark (28:27):
Yes.
Sarah (28:27):
It looks nice.
Mark (28:28):
Yes. Now, at the cafe, Sarah asked a question when we
were rewatching this, to which Ihad to reply, it's a kiwi. The
thing in the background on thewallpaper.
Sarah (28:40):
There's a repeating pattern behind the reverend when
he's sitting at the tabletalking to Mike and Sims. And
it's like a yellowy,butterscotchy kind of colored
wall, and there's a brownrepeating pattern on it. And
it's kind of an abstractsilhouette. And I'm like, what
is that? But you know what?
Everything in that cafe makes mego, what is that? Yes. There's a
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wall that's made out of like oldwood pallets. There's this big
dried coral flower mushroomgrowth thing thing that looks
like it's about 10 feet acrosson the wall. There's just some
strange things in that place.
Yep. As soon as you said it's akiwi, I was like, oh, of course
(29:23):
it is. It's a bird. Yes. Duh.
Yeah. Obviously. Of course,Dennis Buchanan comes and
represents Rafe.
Mark (29:30):
Of course, he does.
Sarah (29:31):
He has
Mark (29:31):
to. Of course. He's fantastic.
Sarah (29:34):
You have to get the nuttiest lawyer to represent the
nuttiest client.
Mark (29:37):
And he doesn't do like, they have a little confab in the
hallway Yeah. Where
Sarah (29:43):
they're Let's go talk reality away from the crazy
person.
Mark (29:47):
Where finally Mike says, I'm going to put him back in
prison if he doesn't starttalking. Yeah. Because he wasn't
supposed to be at a theater. I'msure there were certain people
he wasn't supposed to be around.All of that he completely
ignores.
Sarah (30:04):
Rafe needs some therapy.
Mark (30:05):
Yes.
Sarah (30:06):
When he says, I played Othello. Yes. And Chalmers just
looks at him like, you did,Really? Yeah. And then Rave
said, and I had to do the whole,and gestures to his face.
Chalmers Chalmers eyes roll sohard, you can almost hear it.
Like, of course you did. Yes.Because you're insane. And now
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I'm just picturing the actor whoplays Rafe at the age he is in
the episode with black face on.
Oh. And how horrible and stupidhe would look.
Mark (30:41):
Just horrific. Missy misses the date with Chalmers
with a completely valid reason.
Sarah (30:48):
Yeah. Which is her child is sick. Yeah. Her little boy
was spewing everywhere.
Mark (30:53):
Had to go to the hospital. Right? He looks about eight or
nine. Yeah. He doesn't know whata good superhero is, but that's
okay.
Sarah (31:02):
He likes Spider Man over Bat Man.
Mark (31:04):
Children can learn that Batman is better than Spider
Man. It's okay.
Sarah (31:08):
Batman is not a superhero.
Mark (31:10):
Okay.
Sarah (31:10):
He has no powers. Okay? He does. Money is his power.
Yes.
And that's not a superpower.That's like saying Elon Musk is
a superhero. No. Because he'srich.
Mark (31:21):
No. He's not. No. It's Because a bat a combination of
things. He's rich.
Sarah (31:29):
It's complicated.
Mark (31:30):
And mentally broken enough to dress up in a costume and
beat people up.
Sarah (31:35):
And that makes him a superhero?
Mark (31:37):
That's what he
Sarah (31:38):
is. We've had this conversation before. Can you
tell?
Mark (31:45):
Anyway, Chalmers does the right thing and interacts
positively with the child. He'sgreat. And simply He's great
Sarah (31:53):
with that little boy.
Mark (31:54):
And simply says, okay. That's who you are, and I
completely understand.
Sarah (31:59):
You want a deep cut? Yep. I have a note.
Mark (32:02):
Okay.
Sarah (32:02):
That says Reif performing Shakespeare in the pub is like
Vogon poetry.
Mark (32:07):
Yes. Woah. That is an appropriate deep cut.
Sarah (32:13):
If you've ever read Hitchhiker's Guide to the
Galaxy, there's a race of aliens
Mark (32:19):
That blow up the earth.
Sarah (32:20):
Who torture people by reading their poetry to them,
and it makes your ears bleed andmakes you go insane because it's
so bad.
Mark (32:28):
They choose to be thrown out of a spaceship rather than
listen to Rather
Sarah (32:32):
than hear anymore. Yeah. Thrown out of a spaceship into
space Yes. Rather than hear anymore Vogue on poetry. Yes.
That's that's Rafe at the snakeand tiger. I love when Mike
says, Rafe, get out of the car.
Mark (32:44):
Yes.
Sarah (32:47):
It's the only moment where Rafe is like, you're
right. Yeah, I get it. I'm Like,reality kind of Beeps together.
Little bit out
Mark (32:54):
of the car.
Sarah (32:57):
I have a major issue with the plot of this episode that I
need you to help me with. Yes.So Rafe and Mike are sitting in
the car at the Snake And Tigerbecause Mike has given Rafe a
ride there after they'vereleased him from the police
station because he has an alibi.Yes. Right?
And they're talking.
Mark (33:14):
Yes.
Sarah (33:14):
And Rafe explains to Mike that Terry was a predator.
Mark (33:19):
Yes.
Sarah (33:20):
And then he liked to trap women and manipulate women. Yes.
And he tells him what heobserved when Vicky and Terry
were sitting at the Snake AndTiger, and Terry was trying to
convince Vicky to change hername.
Mark (33:36):
Yes.
Sarah (33:36):
Right? And then lures her back to his apartment Yes. With
the letter from the supposedBroadway producer.
Mark (33:44):
I hate that. I hate that Rafe also is like and she
couldn't get her panties offfast enough.
Sarah (33:51):
I know.
Mark (33:51):
Oh, Rafe, you're horrible.
Sarah (33:53):
He is. But he conveys that information and that's
important because that's thethat's the proof that Mike needs
to know that Vicky may have goneto Terry's apartment, though she
says she's she was never there.
Mark (34:05):
Because in his completeness of description, he
also mentions Whose? Rafe's.
Sarah (34:10):
Mhmm.
Mark (34:11):
Completeness of descriptions, he also gives an
entire inventory of what Vickyis wearing, including her
earrings.
Sarah (34:18):
That's the problem I have.
Mark (34:19):
Yes.
Sarah (34:20):
So Mike has found an earring in Rafe's room. He and
Kristen agree that it could be aman's earring or a woman's
earring.
Mark (34:28):
Yes.
Sarah (34:29):
And Terry had pierced ears. He wore earrings.
Mark (34:32):
Yes.
Sarah (34:33):
So it could be his.
Mark (34:34):
It could be.
Sarah (34:35):
There's only one. It could be his. And yet, from
Rafe's telling of that story oftheir conversation at lunch,
Mike has a revelation that theearring belongs to Vicky. It is.
How can he know that?
Mark (34:48):
Mike cannot know that, but the audience knows that because
we see it.
Sarah (34:52):
So he's just taking a chance that the earring that he
found is hers?
Mark (34:56):
No. I think it's a problem in the plot, but is solved by
television.
Sarah (35:01):
And by her confessions.
Mark (35:02):
And I think that and I think they edited it in a way
that makes me feel they probablyrealized that. There's a
Sarah (35:11):
little gap.
Mark (35:11):
There's a little gappy gap there.
Sarah (35:13):
Okay. Now I need you to take a trip with me Okay. To a
place I called Knitter's Corner.Yes. Welcome to Knitter's
Corner.
Mark (35:22):
Okay. Hi.
Sarah (35:22):
Hi. It's very nice. You're not a knitter, but I
Mark (35:25):
I'm I'm not a knitter, but boy, there's a lot of yarn here.
Sarah (35:29):
I have knit many a sweater
Mark (35:31):
Yes.
Sarah (35:31):
Out of many of variation of kinds of fibers.
Mark (35:35):
Yes. Yes, you
Sarah (35:36):
have. I have never ever in my fifty years
Mark (35:40):
Yes.
Sarah (35:40):
Knit a sweater out of yarn that would be strong enough
to support that light. No.Because it would be the most
uncomfortable sweater made ofrope Yes. Ever. Yes.
Okay.
Mark (35:54):
And it's certainly not ma camre cord.
Sarah (35:59):
We say macrame and they say macrame. Yes. And that's
fine.
Mark (36:04):
It's weird.
Sarah (36:06):
A word you say very often anyway. But so I will I will
give them a nitter.
Mark (36:13):
Meanwhile, all our American listeners are like, oh.
Sarah (36:17):
Macrae. You have to watch it with the subtitles. Though,
here in Knitter's Corner Yeah.We are giving the writers a big
demerit for supposing that youcould knit a sweater out of
something strong enough to holdup a light.
Mark (36:29):
Yes.
Sarah (36:30):
I will give them bonus points for the look of Timothy's
sweater because that is theperfect example of a poorly knit
sweater.
Mark (36:41):
Yes.
Sarah (36:41):
It is I don't even know how the person who made it
managed to do such a bad job andyet have a wearable garment. And
he loves it. Of course he does,because she made it for him.
Mark (36:53):
She made it for him.
Sarah (36:54):
But if anybody who knits will know what I'm talking
about. The decreases around theneck are completely wrong. It's
like you're supposed to go downa needle size when you do
ribbing because it makes it pullin so it's stretchy. She clearly
didn't. It looks like she wentup a needle size at the ribbing
for the bottom.
I'm telling you, this isknitting corner. I warned you.
(37:16):
This is like you talking aboutmusic.
Mark (37:18):
Okay.
Sarah (37:19):
His sweater is the quintessential first sweater
somebody tries to knit. Like ithas all of the problems that
somebody who doesn't quite knowwhat they're doing would create,
and it is so well done. It is sowell done.
Mark (37:35):
Well, I'm gonna
Sarah (37:35):
Bravo to whoever made that costume because it is
perfectly bad.
Mark (37:39):
Yep. We we should ask Trudy if her friend made that
costume because wow.
Sarah (37:45):
So now we can leave Knitter's Corner.
Mark (37:47):
Now, in fact, that person Facebooked me. So I will
Facebook them and ask. Yeah?Yeah. I will.
Sarah (37:53):
Great. Okay. It's it's it is it's great.
Mark (37:57):
I realize I'm a visitor here in Knitter's Corner, but I
also have a comment aboutknitting to add to Knitter's
Corner.
Sarah (38:05):
Okay.
Mark (38:07):
She has no idea how
Sarah (38:08):
to knit. Oh, no. The actress that plays Vicky does
not know how to knit.
Mark (38:12):
In the same way that often people who play musicians have
no idea how to hold or playtheir instruments.
Sarah (38:19):
I don't think any actress who's ever played Merple knows
how to knit either. And she'ssupposedly constantly knitting
things, and somebody'sresponsible for casting on a few
rows of something on the needlesand handing it to the actress
Mark (38:34):
I don't then know just if they even did that.
Sarah (38:36):
Who then just jams the needles into each other
Mark (38:39):
and plays with the down.
Sarah (38:41):
Yeah. Or sits them in their lap and holds them in a
way that a knitter never wouldhold them because the stitches
would immediately fall off.
Mark (38:47):
So that is my contribution to knitters.
Sarah (38:50):
That was a totally valid contribution to knitters corner.
Congratulations.
Mark (38:54):
Do you have a review of the, craft shop where she buys
the McCrammy?
Sarah (38:59):
It is, not a craft shop.
Mark (39:01):
It is a
Sarah (39:02):
craft shop.
Mark (39:03):
It's a craft shop.
Sarah (39:07):
They don't have enough balls of the same color of the
same yarn to even make asweater.
Mark (39:10):
They have a lot of ribbons.
Sarah (39:12):
Is she buying it at the hardware store?
Mark (39:14):
I don't know where she
Sarah (39:15):
is. Maybe that explains the yarn. She buys it at the
hardware
Mark (39:19):
store.
Sarah (39:21):
I don't a jumbo shop.
Mark (39:23):
Maybe. Something? What I don't like is her the sudden
hand movement due to get itcatching on his wrist, which it
wouldn't have actually, I don'tlike the wrist part.
Sarah (39:37):
Okay, I completely relate to the wrist. I can actually
defend that. So one time I waswalking a dog who was super
rambunctious, and I had one ofthose leashes that reels into
the handle, so you can let itout and let them run a little
bit. And she took off with it,and it startled me enough that I
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let go of the leash, it fell outof my hand. So she ran, and as
she ran, because the leashhandle is heavy and was kind of
catching on the grass, itstretched the leash out to its
maximum length,
Mark (40:11):
Okay.
Sarah (40:12):
But then the dog decided to run back to me Oh. And pass
to me. Oh. And then back to me.And when she did that, the leash
cord wrapped around my bareankle.
This I understand. Severed myAchilles tendon.
Mark (40:27):
I understand this. And I got enough rope burns from water
skiing to absolutely understandthis.
Sarah (40:34):
What
Mark (40:35):
I don't understand is how it works in this situation.
Sarah (40:38):
Like how it manages to loop itself around like that?
Yes. What I don't understand ishow you wear a sweater made out
of something that is strongenough to hold up the light and
rough enough to do that kind ofabrasion. That sweater has got
to be miserable.
Mark (40:52):
It can't be nice.
Sarah (40:53):
It's got to be rough.
Mark (40:54):
Timothy, with a callback to the Christmas episode with
the steak and cheese pie beingking of pies. Mhmm. Just a
callback. Call it's likecallback callback Shakespeare
reference. Callback Shakespearereference.
Callback.
Sarah (41:09):
Yep. So here's a challenge to our listeners. When
they're on stage in thedenouement and Vicky confesses
Yes. In a very sweet scene Yes.She and Timothy sing to each
other before she goes.
Mark (41:22):
I'm absolutely sure that if she ran out of the building,
Mike would be like, I guess wehave to chase her. Yeah.
Sarah (41:32):
Do we have to? But they have this very sweet scene that
makes everybody cry where theysing
Mark (41:37):
Including Sims.
Sarah (41:37):
Because they sing to each other all
Mark (41:39):
the Yeah.
Sarah (41:40):
It's just part of who they are.
Mark (41:41):
Yep.
Sarah (41:42):
And they sing to each other. And the line that she
sings is, He called me nothing,and did I mention how much I
love you? Yeah. And the way theysing it, it sounds familiar to
me. But I searched all over theplace for lyrics, and I can't
find that song.
I thought at first maybe WestSide Story or something like
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that. I couldn't find itanywhere. So listeners, if you
recognize those lyrics, if youknow where they're from, please
tell us. Yes. If
Mark (42:14):
I have in my notes, stop singing. You're about to be
arrested.
Sarah (42:17):
Yeah. If they wrote those lyrics for the episode, they did
a really good job.
Mark (42:23):
They did.
Sarah (42:24):
Because it sounds like a musical, what they're singing to
your side.
Mark (42:27):
And then in the best part of physical comedy in the entire
episode, Todd goes to clap. Yes.Frodo stops him.
Sarah (42:35):
And that's why Frodo is the smartest oge. He is the
smartest oge. He actually hassome social intelligence.
Clearly, Todd does not. Yes.
And I misspoke earlier. I saidTodd was Frodo's cousin. Todd is
Jared's cousin.
Mark (42:51):
Jared's cousin.
Sarah (42:52):
Jared of the Rubber Boots. Yes. Who is long gone
now.
Mark (42:54):
Yes. And we find that Mike is not married because he is
still married
Sarah (42:59):
Yeah.
Mark (43:00):
To a woman who lives eight hours south in an unreliable
valley.
Sarah (43:05):
With being off the grid.
Mark (43:07):
And she is not responsive.
Sarah (43:10):
And thus we get the introduction of the secondary
plot of the season. Yes. AndBeth has gone to visit her
mother
Mark (43:17):
In Oz.
Sarah (43:17):
While he straightens things out. Yes. That Do you
think she's mad?
Mark (43:22):
I would think that she would be like, let's get
married. And he was kind ofterse about it. And then when
they got home she was like,what's going on with that?
Because she seems to be a veryforthright communicative Mhmm.
Person.
And he would have said, well,it's actually like I'm not I'm
not unmarried to this woman. Andshe would have said, okay, well
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you have x amount of time tofigure this out, or we're not
getting married, or I'm notgoing to be with you.
Sarah (43:53):
Is that what you would do in that situation?
Mark (43:55):
Oh god, not me. I'm an emotional wreck. I'm completely
the wrong person to ask what Iwould do.
Sarah (44:02):
I think there's just as much chance that Beth would say,
let's get this figured out.
Mark (44:07):
Yes.
Sarah (44:07):
We'll drive down there together.
Mark (44:08):
Yes. Oh, I'm sure if it's a matter of convincing her, I'm
sure Beth would volunteer to dothat.
Sarah (44:15):
Mhmm. But apparently Beth needs to know that Mike really
means it.
Mark (44:19):
Yes.
Sarah (44:19):
And that's why she's
Mark (44:20):
Which I can understand also.
Sarah (44:22):
Yeah. I can. I can. It's been eight years though. Yes.
So it's not like he's still hungup on
Mark (44:27):
this He's not hung up on this woman.
Sarah (44:30):
But he does need to prove that he wants to marry Beth
enough that he's willing tostraighten it out.
Mark (44:35):
Yes. And not straightening it out for eight years is a bit
irresponsible in Mike's case.
Sarah (44:42):
Yeah.
Mark (44:42):
And does not like, I can see her going, that's maybe not
the person I wanna spend the
Sarah (44:49):
money on. Poorly on his character that he hasn't taken
care of it before now.
Mark (44:53):
Yes. It does. Yeah. And then we see the broken tree,
which is the broken wood.
Sarah (44:57):
Yes. Which is also the thing that was in the mysterious
picture in the snake and tiger.
Mark (45:03):
Which is in a future episode, I think. Is it? I think
it's in one of the latest seasonepisodes.
Sarah (45:08):
Where we ask people, what is that what is that picture?
It's something that's surroundedby, like, a fence?
Mark (45:14):
Now we know it's a giant stump with Frodo in it rapping.
Sarah (45:18):
We had to go back in time to solve a future question.
Mark (45:22):
Yes. Aren't we cool? Speaking
Sarah (45:26):
And that is Brokenwood the musical.
Mark (45:28):
Brokenwood the musical. So what would mince what would
mystery maniacs the musical belike?
Sarah (45:37):
I think you should just look at that bingo card and make
a song about it in square.
Mark (45:41):
I would sing a song about how I don't like musicals. Yeah.
Definitely. There would be theso so so so so song.
Sarah (45:48):
Yeah. Because you have to cut up every
Mark (45:51):
time we say
Sarah (45:51):
so much.
Mark (45:53):
So Perhaps the Halloween decoration song?
Sarah (45:57):
Maybe.
Mark (45:58):
And the Mark Does Too Many
Sarah (46:00):
Hobbies song? We could have the don't use that for your
outtake song
Mark (46:05):
Yes.
Sarah (46:05):
Where I just say one embarrassing thing after another
followed by and don't use thatfor your outtake. Yes. Because
that happens a lot.
Mark (46:13):
And then finally, we're sick again.
Sarah (46:15):
So No. I don't want to sing that song ever again. No.
No. Not that.
Mark (46:21):
We are we are healthy right now.
Sarah (46:23):
We could sing the what do you mean there are no more
midsummers for us to cover? Yes.We never thought we would get to
that point.
Mark (46:30):
Yes. We definitely have that in some sort of origin that
revolves around me wearingriding a moose.
Sarah (46:37):
Instead of a bald eagle.
Mark (46:39):
Yes.
Sarah (46:40):
Like like a moose came up to you in the woods and
whispered, make a podcast aboutIf
Mark (46:46):
you make it, they will come.
Sarah (46:47):
And then and then wrote ran away. Yep. Is that what
moose do? Is do they whisper
Mark (46:53):
like that? I guess so. So should Vicky go to prison? Yes.
She killed a person?
Sarah (46:58):
Yes. Premeditated murder. Yep. But I think it's reckless
homicide.
Mark (47:03):
Yeah. I think I think
Sarah (47:05):
because I think she can argue that she didn't mean to
kill him Yeah. If she's got agood lawyer.
Mark (47:09):
I'm thinking Buchanan could easily get her off on
reckless homicide.
Sarah (47:15):
But she's still going to prison.
Mark (47:16):
Yeah. She's still going prison. Yeah. I think Rafe's
going back to prison. He's doingstuff that he should not be
doing.
Sarah (47:22):
He needs something. He's not ready to be out on his own.
Mark (47:26):
The mayor needs to have some fiscal responsibility.
Sarah (47:30):
If I was a taxpayer in Brokenwood, I would want to know
what happened to that money.
Mark (47:35):
Yes. And we know that Missy shows up in a couple of
Sarah (47:38):
more episodes, so we're I like her. I'm glad that she
Mark (47:41):
Yes. Definitely. So and that is Prokenwood, the musical.
Sarah (47:47):
Mhmm. Before we wrap up
Mark (47:49):
Yes.
Sarah (47:50):
I would like to ask the listeners a question.
Mark (47:53):
Yes.
Sarah (47:53):
We know at some point in the near future, near being in
the next four months probably.
Mark (47:59):
No. I would say within the next four weeks, we'll know.
Sarah (48:02):
Yeah. Yeah. There will be new episodes of Midsommar. Yes.
And it's been a long time sincewe've had new episodes of
Mark (48:08):
December, January.
Sarah (48:10):
Yes. So we'll, of course, do minis, and then we'll do
regular episodes on Midsummer.But Yes. It feels to me like we
should celebrate a new season ofMidsummer in some bigger way.
Yes.
Like, I don't know, a live showor what do you call it when you
watch something together? Watchparty. A watch party. Something.
(48:33):
Something.
So if you have ideas
Mark (48:35):
Yes.
Sarah (48:35):
On how we should celebrate a new season of
Midsommar
Mark (48:38):
Yes.
Sarah (48:39):
Let us know.
Mark (48:40):
Please let us know. We would love
Sarah (48:42):
Mystery maniacs podcast@Gmail.com.
Mark (48:45):
Yes. And, of course, contact us if you're going to
Midsummer Live and tell us allabout it and what other
Sarah (48:52):
Give us the scoop.
Mark (48:53):
What other maniacs you met there.
Sarah (48:57):
Alright. Until next time. Bye, maniacs.
Mark (49:01):
Bye, maniacs. Thanks for joining us on the mystery
maniacs podcast. If you enjoyedour crazy podcast today, don't
miss out on future episodes.Follow us on social media for
updates, beyond the scenescontent, and exclusive sneak
peeks. Subscribe, like, andshare to spread the word.
Bye, Maniacs. Go back to myreference about the despicable
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people from there. The guy whodid the killdozer thing in
Colorado is from there.
He doesn't know what a good superhero is, but that's
(00:03):
okay.
Sarah (00:04):
Likes Spider Man over Batman.
Mark (00:06):
Children can learn that Batman is better than Spider
Man. It's a
Sarah (00:23):
Hey, maniacs.
Mark (00:25):
Hey, mystery maniacs. Mystery maniacs is a comedy
recap podcast dedicated tomystery TV. Each week, we dig
into an episode of a showincluding the murders, the
mayhem, the loonies, andeverything else we love. This
week, the Brokenwood Mysteries.
Sarah (00:42):
Season nine, episode one. Brokenwood. The musical.
Mark (00:46):
The musical. I'm not going to sing.
Sarah (00:49):
It's so bad.
Mark (00:50):
I'm Mark.
Sarah (00:51):
I hate his gloves. I'm just gonna say it. They're dirty
and gross, and they
Mark (00:59):
freak me out. That's okay. He's dirty and gross too.
Sarah (01:03):
I just had to get it out. I'm Sarah, by the way.
Mark (01:07):
This is a spoiler podcast. So we give away who the killer
is
Sarah (01:10):
We're gonna wear it.
Mark (01:11):
And what gloves he wears. Well, he
Sarah (01:13):
he's the
Mark (01:14):
He's the victim. But and if you let your kids go to
musicals, which I recommend thatyou don't. Why? Because I hate
musicals.
Sarah (01:23):
They just get songs stuck in their heads.
Mark (01:25):
And then I had a child who chose to do musicals and I went
to a bunch of musicals and Istill don't like them.
Sarah (01:31):
I would rather have to go see a child perform in a musical
than have to watch Frozen 40times a day or something like
Yes. Which a lot of our friendswho have younger kids have been
exposed to.
Mark (01:41):
Yes.
Sarah (01:42):
Yeah. I'll take it.
Mark (01:43):
Ladies and gentlemen, hockey is upon us, baseball is
upon us, Toronto is winning allover the place. I'm a happy boy
when it comes to sports.
Sarah (01:54):
Good for you, the rest of us. But Follow it.
Mark (01:58):
I wanna start off the show talking about Midsummer Live. So
Midsummer Live is a on stageproduction that we've talked
about a couple of times.
Sarah (02:09):
Mhmm.
Mark (02:09):
First of all, we give Midsummer social media nothing
but crap. We give them crap allthe time.
Sarah (02:17):
Mhmm.
Mark (02:18):
We have said not very nice things. Their video for the
Midsummer live shows isexcellent.
Sarah (02:27):
Yeah. We saw it on Instagram. Right? Yes.
Mark (02:29):
Yeah. It has all the good stuff that we would expect to
see in it. Mhmm. And then DanielCasey as Barnaby at the end.
Sarah (02:37):
I think he's gonna be great.
Mark (02:39):
I think so. His sergeant is played by James Bradwell, who
some of you might know fromBridgerton. Mhmm. This is a big
get for them, I bet.
Sarah (02:50):
Mhmm.
Mark (02:51):
This is this is quite the
Sarah (02:52):
I think Daniel Casey is kind of a big get.
Mark (02:54):
I think so too. There are a lot of dates. Right? So it
starts on the October 24 inLondon and goes all the way to
the June 6 and their final showsare in Dublin.
Sarah (03:09):
That's awesome. I So that's lots of opportunities for
you who are over there
Mark (03:13):
Yes.
Sarah (03:13):
To go and see it and be a correspondent Yes. For the
podcast.
Mark (03:17):
That's what we need you to do. Yes. We need correspondents
to be taking pictures andmeeting people, and especially
if you meet other maniacs. Wedefinitely wanna hear about
that.
Sarah (03:30):
And we wanna talk to you and see what it was like.
Mark (03:32):
Yes. We wanna hear about to go. About what it was like.
Sarah (03:36):
If you are planning to go, if you have tickets already,
email us atmysterymaniacspodcast@Gmail.com.
Let us know when you're gonnago. Yep. We'll put together a
schedule of interviews of peoplewho are going to go so we can
talk to them after they havebeen.
Mark (03:51):
Absolutely. Because midsummer, new midsummer dates
are imminent and we'll talk moreabout those at the end of the
show but we're expecting newmidsummer season 25 in December
on Acorn. But that informationhas not been released yet.
Sarah (04:08):
No. We don't know yet.
Mark (04:09):
Yes. But we have been watching Evensong on Acorn,
which is excellent.
Sarah (04:15):
I I really like Evensong so far. I I the actress who
plays his mother, whose name I Idon't know. I should have found
it. Her name in Nutrix. She wasthe the female Yes.
DCI in Nutrix.
Mark (04:28):
Amanda Redmond.
Sarah (04:29):
Yeah. She's great, And she's super good as his mom.
Yes. Matthew Lewis, you mightknow him as Neville Longbottom
when he was a kid in the HarryPotter movies. He's grown And I
so far, think they're reallythey're set in the eighties,
which is kind of interesting.
So well worth a watch.
Mark (04:46):
It's it's definitely set in the eighties, but isn't
overwhelmed by eighties made upculture, I guess, you would say.
Sarah (04:54):
Yeah. I mean, it touches on current events, though, like
the AIDS epidemic, and the musicis current to then.
Mark (05:02):
What we learned was that Richard Coles, who wrote it, was
in not only Bronsky beat, butthe communards as well.
Sarah (05:09):
Couple of bands that half of us probably have never heard
of, but
Mark (05:13):
But we're definitely eighties To
Sarah (05:16):
go from an eighties kind of punky band to being a
reverend and an author and acomedian is kind of a Quite the
art.
Mark (05:23):
He he's had quite the life. He is a he has a memoir
out from pop to preacher, thinkit's called, that I may read
after I finish Evensong, thefirst book. Cool. Because I
think he he definitely had aninteresting life.
Sarah (05:36):
We've also been watching the new season of Karen Peary on
BritBox.
Mark (05:40):
If you need a reminder, she's the millennial detective
with the fanny pack. And thepopped collar. Yes. So I had not
noticed this in the firstepisode. The first episode, one
of the very sub sub sub subplotsis that her sergeant, who she
calls Mintz, because his name isMurray, because Murray Mintz is
(06:03):
a thing Mhmm.
Said that she had a nickname andthen he tries to say not what it
is. And later on she asks whatit is. And at one point he says,
Fanny Pack. And she looks at himlike, what?
Sarah (06:25):
Because because that means the fanny's quite
different Yeah. In The UK. Andthey don't call it a fanny pack.
They call it a bum bag. Yes.
Right? Which if we we heard bumbag, we would that's not very
flattering either. It and to befair, it's not flattering as she
wears it. No. But it's a goodshow.
If you watch the first season,you'll like the second season so
far. If you didn't watch thefirst season, it's worth it's
(06:46):
worth a watch. Yeah. KarenPeary.
Mark (06:47):
It's fun. Definitely good. And then I wanted to make a note
that we've mentioned somethingwicked this way comes on the
podcast before, and we lamentedthat it was unavailable on any
streaming service.
Sarah (07:01):
Not that it's a mystery. It's a Ray Bradbury story. It's
a creepy kids movie. Yes. TheDisney movie that was gone?
Disappeared? Very For a longtime. Halloweeny. Yeah. It's on
and now it's on Disney plus.
Yes. So you can watch it overand over and over again.
Mark (07:19):
Oh, I've only watched it twice so far. It is so epically
Halloween y.
Sarah (07:26):
Yeah. And Jonathan Price is in it. A young Jonathan
Price. Doctor
Mark (07:30):
mister Dark, and Jason Robarts is in it as well.
Sarah (07:33):
Speaking Jonathan Price is in that, along with Isn't
Something Wicked This Way Comes,and Jonathan Price is also in
Slow Horses
Mark (07:42):
Yes.
Sarah (07:42):
With Gary Old man, who is awesome, based on the books by
Nick Heron. It's on Apple Plus.It's the fifth season.
Mark (07:51):
Yes.
Sarah (07:51):
It's so good. It's very, very good. If you haven't
watched Slow Horses yet, goback, watch it if you've got
access to Apple Plus. And if youdid, oh, don't miss the new
season. It's it's probably Ithink it may be one of the best.
I mean, it's the best one. It'smy favorite book of the series.
Yeah. So it's, yeah, reallygood.
Mark (08:11):
It's super good.
Sarah (08:12):
On a side note, if you follow Midsommar Murders on
Instagram, I don't know if theyposted it other places.
Mark (08:20):
Band posted on Reddit too.
Sarah (08:22):
A band with an odd name wrote and released a song about
Barnaby that the MidsommarMurders official account cross
posted and promoted with like alittle music video. Because the
song is called Barnaby, and it'sabout Barnaby.
Mark (08:38):
Mister Barnaby is what it's called.
Sarah (08:40):
The name of the band is Shit Baby Mammals.
Mark (08:43):
Yes.
Sarah (08:46):
The post says, though the band has a naughty name, we
really like the song. I havemixed feelings about the song.
It's fun.
Mark (08:55):
It's a little weird that it's a song about John Nettles
whose birthday it is today. He's82 This Saturday. That we're
we're recording. But not aboutthe new Barnaby.
Sarah (09:08):
No. It's it says something like, give me give me
my
Mark (09:11):
Old Barnaby. Yeah.
Sarah (09:13):
The old guy back. The o g or something. Yeah. Like, it
it's purposefully against thenew Barnaby.
Mark (09:19):
Which seems weird, but, you know, we've mentioned in
this
Sarah (09:23):
show people have that opinion.
Mark (09:25):
That Midsummer social media is a bit weird.
Sarah (09:30):
Yeah. But it's kind of a fun song
Mark (09:32):
Yes.
Sarah (09:33):
By a band who has a very brave name. Yes. It's kind of a
limiting name, I think. You'rekinda putting a cap on how
popular you're gonna be when youname your band Shit Baby
Mammals.
Mark (09:46):
Yeah.
Sarah (09:47):
Are you ready to talk about Brokenwood?
Mark (09:49):
Brokenwood the musical was aired in the 04/10/1939. Oh my
gosh.
Sarah (09:58):
One hundred years ago.
Mark (10:00):
02/2023. Like last week basically. Like a mere two years
ago. Directed by Katie Wolf whois the woman who played the
spider expert in the early onepisodes and written by Timothy
Baum. Katie Wolf and TimothyBaum had a meeting and said,
let's write some silly songsabout Brokenwood and have every
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single guest star we've ever hadin a single episode.
Sarah (10:26):
It's not everybody, but it's a lot.
Mark (10:28):
It's a lot.
Sarah (10:29):
You can't have a mystery show set in a small town and not
have a theater group that hastons of internal drama.
Mark (10:37):
Midsummer's done it all sorts of
Sarah (10:40):
You can't have a small theater troupe in a small town
without having a prima donna runit.
Mark (10:47):
Yes. Midsummer's done it twice.
Sarah (10:49):
Somebody who is The way too big for their
Mark (10:54):
off market Kurgan episode also the very it's like third
episode.
Sarah (11:05):
Off market Kirk. That's what we call that. He's gonna
get.
Mark (11:09):
That is a deep, deep,
Sarah (11:12):
deep You're talking about the episode with the performance
of Amadeus Yes. At the cornmarket where where Joyce is on
stage when the guy slits his ownthroat.
Mark (11:22):
Oh, and and by the way, if you go to see Midsummer live,
wear your maniacs merch. How you
Sarah (11:28):
know what I'm saying. How you recognize each other. Just a
tote bag, you know, something.Carry a mug. I don't care.
Mark (11:34):
And a group picture of all the maniacs there there that
night would All be two.
Sarah (11:38):
Oh my gosh. That would be awesome. All two people.
Mark (11:41):
We would go, but I'm scared to leave the country
anyway.
Sarah (11:45):
Anyway. Yeah, so you can't have small town mystery
without having a theater troupe.A musical theater troupe, I
think, takes the drama toanother level. I think people
who perform musicals, becausethey have a plethora of talents
Mark (11:58):
Yes.
Sarah (11:58):
Are maybe more dramatic as people.
Mark (12:02):
I don't know. These these groups are everywhere.
Sarah (12:04):
And Kristen got a haircut.
Mark (12:05):
Yes. The group the town that I grew up in had a group
that was called the MississippiMudds that performed shows just
like this.
Sarah (12:17):
Were they about Carleton Place Canada?
Mark (12:19):
No. But they they did musicals and
Sarah (12:22):
But did they write their own? They sometimes did.
Mark (12:25):
And we went to every one of them because we were so bored
that it was exciting to go tosomething.
Sarah (12:32):
We forgot the Pirates of Penzance Midsummer.
Mark (12:35):
Yes. That's the Well, that's the Kurgan one.
Sarah (12:37):
Oh, that's right. That's Kurgan. Never mind.
Mark (12:41):
There can only be one. Off brand Kurgan. Wow. We're so deep
in the rest.
Sarah (12:49):
I think Kristen's hair looks great. I like her new
haircut.
Mark (12:53):
I think she has a new girlfriend, which is she goes
everywhere with Gina now. Yeah.Mike's by himself, and we find
out why at the end of theepisode. But mostly, it's
because he didn't get unmarriedand didn't tell anyone.
Sarah (13:09):
All I have to say is I love it like crazy where no one
is lazy. Dogs don't have rabies.Let's settle down and have some
babies.
Mark (13:19):
That has some fantastic
Sarah (13:21):
AI would do a better job Yeah. Writing lyrics than that.
Yes. Terry Weaver deserves thatlight fixture.
Mark (13:29):
For a number of reasons. He is a despicable human being
that deserves to die.
Sarah (13:35):
Not just for his parents.
Mark (13:36):
Think you should kill anybody, but if you're in a cozy
mystery and you kill a personfor this reason, I might let you
get away with it.
Sarah (13:43):
I kind of like plots where the most despicable,
unlikable person is also thevictim.
Mark (13:49):
Yes. I can understand.
Sarah (13:51):
Because then we don't have to see them very much.
Mark (13:53):
I totally understand that.
Sarah (13:55):
When you start watching a show and you're like, oh, I hate
that character. Yes. I hope theyget killed.
Mark (14:00):
Yes. You
Sarah (14:02):
feel a little bad, but not not a lot. Yeah. Not a lot
bad. It also includes Frodorapping and break dancing.
Mark (14:09):
One thing we are not going to do one thing we are not going
to do is go through everyShakespeare reference No. In
this production because they'reall over the place in this show.
And I do wanna bring up that thewoman who does the country song
(14:30):
Mhmm. And the Crab Shack song
Sarah (14:34):
Mhmm.
Mark (14:34):
Is on the poster. Okay? He tells her that she should get a
starring role and sing twosongs.
Sarah (14:43):
Okay? You're talking about Sue. Sue. Because she gets
to play Crab Shack Jenny. Yes.
Mark (14:48):
But purveyor of
Sarah (14:50):
fish based meals.
Mark (14:52):
That's what he In the scene where he offers her the
role because he says she's tooold to play Settler Mary or
whatever it is. There is theposter of her in costume in the
background.
Sarah (15:07):
Mhmm.
Mark (15:08):
That's that's a problem. Mhmm.
Sarah (15:10):
And they're in the theater too. Yeah. Like that's
the that's the poster.
Mark (15:14):
Well, that's okay that when it's in the theater because
that would be promotion but thiswhen they have the discussion to
ask her to do those parts
Sarah (15:23):
Oh, and she's already playing the part in the picture?
Mark (15:25):
She's already playing the
Sarah (15:26):
Gotcha. Part in the see. Yeah. That's kind of time wise
impossible, isn't it?
Mark (15:31):
No. So Frodo
Sarah (15:32):
Unless he tricked her into putting the costume on and
took the photo and told her thatthat was the settler lady
costume.
Mark (15:39):
Maybe, except it's got a crab. Tonight, the player of
Statue Of Liberty will be playedby Terry Weaver. I love how
they're just completely like,oh, okay.
Sarah (15:52):
It's a pretty fancy theater to have one of those
lifts that comes from under thefloor.
Mark (15:57):
Yeah. It
Sarah (15:58):
is. That's pretty snazzy for a small theater.
Mark (16:00):
It is indeed. Frodo raps.
Sarah (16:03):
And breakdances. Don't forget. It's breakdances.
Mark (16:06):
It's sad that I have to say that bro Frodo is probably a
better breakdancer than he is arapper.
Sarah (16:11):
He's not saying much. So we've got
Mark (16:14):
Then by the way, Frodo has the easiest gig in this.
Sarah (16:18):
Oh, yeah.
Mark (16:18):
He sings. He does the little rap thing.
Sarah (16:20):
And then looks sad.
Mark (16:21):
He dances. He does one interview with Mike, and then
he's there at the end to tellthe other guy not to clap. Yeah.
And that is it.
Sarah (16:33):
And just looks sad in the background in the meantime.
Mark (16:36):
Yep.
Sarah (16:36):
So we've got Vicky and Timothy, who are the main
characters in the musical, whoare a couple
Mark (16:43):
Yes.
Sarah (16:44):
Who are as sweet as they can be Very, very sweet. Todd
Yes. And Frodo.
Mark (16:49):
Todd who
Sarah (16:50):
Todd has more jobs than Frodo. Yes. Roger Yes. The
psychiatrist who is the partnerof the reverend. Also
Psychiatrist who attractsmurder.
Mark (17:01):
With Todd, Frodo, and the doctor, there is no way someone
is not dying in this They
Sarah (17:08):
shouldn't be allowed to be in any kind of activities
together.
Mark (17:11):
All murder magnets.
Sarah (17:13):
And then Sue, who is Crab Shack Jenny, and Missy Yes. The
water tester
Mark (17:19):
Yes.
Sarah (17:20):
And then Terrence Weaver who is the director, writer Yes.
Asshole in the glove. Hisgloves.
Mark (17:26):
Does he have the gloves on when he's dressed up
Sarah (17:28):
as Always. Sorry. No. I actually don't think he has them
on when he's dressed up as theStatue Of Liberty because I
remember in the flashback scene,he touches Vicky's costume. Yes.
And I think he's gonna get greenpaint on that white dress.
Mark (17:44):
Yeah.
Sarah (17:45):
Don't touch her.
Mark (17:46):
Yes. Well, he shouldn't touch her for a number of
reasons.
Sarah (17:48):
Oh, for a million reasons. Yeah.
Mark (17:50):
So And the return
Sarah (17:51):
of Rafe Sinjin.
Mark (17:53):
Yes. The man with two pretentious names. Rafe and
Singin.
Sarah (17:58):
So he's the second character who has killed
someone, gone to prison, andcome back. Yes. Him and Trudy.
Mark (18:05):
Him and Trudy.
Sarah (18:06):
Trudy is fantastic in this episode. Like,
Mark (18:08):
got removed from prison super easily. Removed? Like, got
let out of prison. Yeah.
Sarah (18:14):
Yeah. He should be doing more time than he's done.
Mark (18:17):
Yes. And the doctor comes out with no pants on as Captain
Cook. Everybody laughs. He's abrave actor.
Sarah (18:25):
Yeah. He's dedicated.
Mark (18:27):
He's got some decent legs on him for a man his age.
Sarah (18:30):
I love that the the costume shirt is just long
enough to leave you wondering ifhe has anything underneath it.
Mark (18:36):
Indeed it does.
Sarah (18:39):
Tighty whities probably.
Mark (18:40):
Yes. So I have in my notes in a room full of murder
magnets, obviously a light isgonna fall on somebody's head.
And what do you know? Whilesinging The Star Spangled
Banner, he gets hit by a light.
Sarah (18:54):
Can we just talk about Terry's despicableness? Okay.
Get it out of
Mark (18:58):
the way. Okay. Let's get this out of
Sarah (19:00):
the way. Because his gloves really gross me out.
Mark (19:04):
We heard the gloves.
Sarah (19:07):
But beyond that, he's a liar?
Mark (19:10):
Let let's get to the end and the reason for the killing,
but before that, he is fakingout everybody in this
production.
Sarah (19:19):
Yeah. Well, it's he get the funding to put it on. He he
lied to the mayor and and showedhim letters supporting the
production that were fake fromproducers and Broadway and
stuff. Like, he's justfabricated everything. I mean,
the dude is a loser.
He lives in a one bedroomapartment Yep. That is just full
of his grossness.
Mark (19:39):
He's trying to sell it a theater production that you
could put on anywhere,especially in The United States.
Sarah (19:45):
Especially any town that ends in wood. Yes.
Mark (19:49):
The one they mention is Castlewood, South Dakota, which
is actually a real place.
Sarah (19:56):
It's not hard to find places that end in wood. I wanna
know what Terry does with the$100 he gets from the city
because it's certainly not inthis production.
Mark (20:04):
Yeah. And and okay. No community the size of Brokenwood
is giving a $100 to anything
Sarah (20:11):
They wouldn't have a tax base
Mark (20:12):
to pay for that. Road construction.
Sarah (20:15):
No. They'd have to get like a grant
Mark (20:17):
Yes.
Sarah (20:17):
I would think.
Mark (20:18):
And you can't don't do that to the mayor. Don't do that
to the mayor. No. The mayor isthe nicest guy in the world.
Sarah (20:25):
And a pharmacist.
Mark (20:26):
Yes. He's super helpful. Don't do that to me.
Sarah (20:31):
But he falls for it. Suddenly he's gullible.
Mark (20:34):
Then on top of all of it, he's both culturally
appropriating people andsexually assaulting. Oh.
Sarah (20:42):
That scene with Vicky in his room, I just wanna go Just
headbutt him. Just punch him.
Mark (20:48):
And she does headbutt him. No.
Sarah (20:50):
She kicks him in the crotch.
Mark (20:51):
Oh, she does. That's right.
Sarah (20:52):
Which It's okay too.
Mark (20:54):
And I wanna say that Brokenwood actually does a
really good job of placing herin peril, giving him, like,
saying the horrible things thathe would say
Sarah (21:05):
Mhmm.
Mark (21:05):
But still remaining cozy.
Sarah (21:08):
Mhmm.
Mark (21:09):
It it there's
Sarah (21:10):
no Because nothing happens to her. She gets away.
Mark (21:12):
She gets away.
Sarah (21:14):
But the fact that he tries to attack her, and when he
sees he's not going to get awaywith that, he doesn't just give
up. He says, well, who's goingto believe you that nothing
happened? Yeah. Like just whenyou think he's hit the bottom,
he digs a little deeper, andthen he plays the Statue Of
Liberty, sings like crap.
Mark (21:35):
Yep. Just
Sarah (21:38):
No. No. Anyhow, he dies. Yes. Oh, darn.
Mark (21:43):
Now there was one thing, and then we're not gonna go
through everything. We're notgonna through
Sarah (21:47):
it point by point. No.
Mark (21:48):
No. But I did wanna mention that when they do the
scene of the crime thing, Mikeasked, what is this x on the
floor? And Chalmers and Simsshare a look. And I think that
is some reference to Neil Raynot knowing where to stand and
see
Sarah (22:06):
Not hitting his mark? Not hitting his mark. I think you
might be reading into it. But ifyou're right, it's funny.
Mark (22:12):
It it it's really on the nose. Right? And they've done
theater stuff before. Well,yeah. So I think it's kinda on
the nose.
So.
Sarah (22:25):
The other character we've not mentioned is Grey Jenkins,
who is the mayor's partner.
Mark (22:32):
And the costumer in town.
Sarah (22:34):
Yeah. He's great. Yes. I was I I didn't know if I liked
him. Yeah.
But I really like him. I reallylike Trudy in this episode. Yes.
And I really like Missy in thisepisode.
Mark (22:46):
Missy is fantastic.
Sarah (22:47):
Missy is abrasive, but good.
Mark (22:51):
And her explanation of missing her date with Chalmers
is on the nose.
Sarah (22:58):
Yeah. And she's right to want to explain it to him first.
Before telling Kristen.
Mark (23:04):
All completely.
Sarah (23:05):
What I really like that they did though, they do a good
job with her character becauseshe is super abrasive and super
standoffish and stands up forherself almost to a fault. But
like in the scene where she's inthe cafe and she sees Vicky
after they've had a couple ofrehearsals before Missy leaves
the show, it's like genuinefriendship between her and
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Vicky. Like she's a warm personto people that she likes.
Mark (23:31):
She can sing. Yeah. That actress can sing. Yeah. When
she's asked to be the culturaladvisor, she's like, I'm not
qualified for that.
Mhmm. I understand my culture,but that doesn't mean that I
should be a cultural adviser.That shows a maturity of a
person.
Sarah (23:50):
Yeah. Yeah. I just like her. I like what they do with
her character in this episode.Yes.
Absolutely. Chalmers Kristencalls Chalmers a Nigel no mates
Mark (24:02):
Yes.
Sarah (24:02):
For being stood up Yes. For the date with Missy.
Mark (24:06):
Nigel no mates.
Sarah (24:07):
I've never heard Nigel no mates, but I like it.
Mark (24:10):
So Frodo gets interviewed, and he gets asked about seeing a
gentleman dressed as a Jew. AndFrodo goes, I'm going full froed
here, and calls him an acidic
Sarah (24:23):
Jew. Yeah. But it's it's it's worse than even that,
because the reason why Rafe isdressed like that is because
when he played Shylock, that'show he portrayed Shylock.
Mark (24:38):
As a Hasidic Jew, which has nothing to do with that
play.
Sarah (24:42):
No. Rafe Rafe is also contemptible, but he's
absolutely deluded. He's justbroken.
Mark (24:49):
Yes.
Sarah (24:50):
You know?
Mark (24:50):
And I love how the lawyer says he he's deluded. And
Kristen goes, yeah. We know. Hekilled
Sarah (24:58):
somebody. The last time he was involved in any kind of
theater, somebody died becauseof him. Because he's jealous and
wanted to play Hamlet, thoughhe's like 70.
Mark (25:10):
Yeah.
Sarah (25:12):
I love him reciting Shakespeare at the Snake and
Tiger though.
Mark (25:15):
Yes.
Sarah (25:16):
Dressed in all black like a beatnik with his little
keyboard.
Mark (25:18):
True. He's like, I let him on at two. Yeah. He's like, not
at lunch. No.
No. I wanna keep
Sarah (25:26):
stuff. I believe in a second chance, but I still have
to run a business. And then shesays that he's he's causing her
regulars to drink more becausethey're trying to, like, tune
him out with alcohol orsomething. So he's good for
business.
Mark (25:40):
I think in this episode, they also do a fantastic job
with Gina.
Sarah (25:45):
Mhmm. Yeah. She's fun.
Mark (25:47):
Particularly the shoelaces twister thing.
Sarah (25:53):
I wanna know how many times she had to shoot that
scene to get her wrist soquickly. Like, did they have to
put a wire in her shoestring sothat it would stay the loop
would stay open enough for herto put her hand in it that
quickly?
Mark (26:05):
I guess because
Sarah (26:06):
she does a really good job at it.
Mark (26:08):
She does a very good job. Kristen's super nosy at the
beginning of this episode, butthen not at the end. Mhmm. And I
think that's okay. Oh my gosh.
You know, the the trivia andgoof section of IMDb is a
battleground of stupidity.
Sarah (26:29):
It often is.
Mark (26:30):
And the note about the sword of Damocles in this
episode was, like, so incrediblypedantic. Actually, it's not the
king who's in the chair.Whatever. It works. You're
missing the point.
Yes.
Sarah (26:48):
Congratulations. You showed how smart you are. Are
you happy? Yes. Are you proud?
Go away.
Mark (26:54):
What's that?
Sarah (26:54):
Rafe is so delusional that he goes to the grave of the
man that he killed. To doYorick. Yeah. Over a grave, and
Gray shows up and is furious.And I'm like, you tell him.
Because Rafe is so out of it,like just out of touch,
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inconsiderate, self absorbed.And Rafe is like, but it was a
mistake. And Grey says, 60 yearold men wearing skinny jeans is
a mistake. You killed somebody.You killed somebody.
Mark (27:30):
That is the line I of the
Sarah (27:34):
like that line. The cops at the cop shop are drinking
soda out of glass bottles. Whatare they drinking?
Mark (27:40):
They're drinking karma soda.
Sarah (27:42):
What's that?
Mark (27:42):
That's the thing they've mentioned in the last five
episodes.
Sarah (27:46):
But now it's in a glass bottle?
Mark (27:47):
It's always been in a glass bottle.
Sarah (27:49):
Oh, I thought it was in a can. Nope. Well, that explains
it.
Mark (27:51):
Ass over kite. Is that a New Zealand thing?
Sarah (27:55):
Because it's ass over kettle. Yeah. Because you're
carrying a kettle and you falland you trip like, you trip so
badly. Yeah. Who gets married atthe snake and tiger?
Mark (28:05):
I don't
Sarah (28:06):
know. Because they're planning quite the reception
there. Yes. They actually kindof make it look nice, Sort sort
of. By just hiding everything.
Maybe it's the only venue intown. It looks really big
Mark (28:19):
It does.
Sarah (28:20):
When they've got everything out of it.
Mark (28:21):
It does.
Sarah (28:22):
What's her name? The the wedding planner lady does a good
job.
Mark (28:27):
Yes.
Sarah (28:27):
It looks nice.
Mark (28:28):
Yes. Now, at the cafe, Sarah asked a question when we
were rewatching this, to which Ihad to reply, it's a kiwi. The
thing in the background on thewallpaper.
Sarah (28:40):
There's a repeating pattern behind the reverend when
he's sitting at the tabletalking to Mike and Sims. And
it's like a yellowy,butterscotchy kind of colored
wall, and there's a brownrepeating pattern on it. And
it's kind of an abstractsilhouette. And I'm like, what
is that? But you know what?
Everything in that cafe makes mego, what is that? Yes. There's a
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wall that's made out of like oldwood pallets. There's this big
dried coral flower mushroomgrowth thing thing that looks
like it's about 10 feet acrosson the wall. There's just some
strange things in that place.
Yep. As soon as you said it's akiwi, I was like, oh, of course
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it is. It's a bird. Yes. Duh.
Yeah. Obviously. Of course,Dennis Buchanan comes and
represents Rafe.
Mark (29:30):
Of course, he does.
Sarah (29:31):
He has
Mark (29:31):
to. Of course. He's fantastic.
Sarah (29:34):
You have to get the nuttiest lawyer to represent the
nuttiest client.
Mark (29:37):
And he doesn't do like, they have a little confab in the
hallway Yeah. Where
Sarah (29:43):
they're Let's go talk reality away from the crazy
person.
Mark (29:47):
Where finally Mike says, I'm going to put him back in
prison if he doesn't starttalking. Yeah. Because he wasn't
supposed to be at a theater. I'msure there were certain people
he wasn't supposed to be around.All of that he completely
ignores.
Sarah (30:04):
Rafe needs some therapy.
Mark (30:05):
Yes.
Sarah (30:06):
When he says, I played Othello. Yes. And Chalmers just
looks at him like, you did,Really? Yeah. And then Rave
said, and I had to do the whole,and gestures to his face.
Chalmers Chalmers eyes roll sohard, you can almost hear it.
Like, of course you did. Yes.Because you're insane. And now
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I'm just picturing the actor whoplays Rafe at the age he is in
the episode with black face on.
Oh. And how horrible and stupidhe would look.
Mark (30:41):
Just horrific. Missy misses the date with Chalmers
with a completely valid reason.
Sarah (30:48):
Yeah. Which is her child is sick. Yeah. Her little boy
was spewing everywhere.
Mark (30:53):
Had to go to the hospital. Right? He looks about eight or
nine. Yeah. He doesn't know whata good superhero is, but that's
okay.
Sarah (31:02):
He likes Spider Man over Bat Man.
Mark (31:04):
Children can learn that Batman is better than Spider
Man. It's okay.
Sarah (31:08):
Batman is not a superhero.
Mark (31:10):
Okay.
Sarah (31:10):
He has no powers. Okay? He does. Money is his power.
Yes.
And that's not a superpower.That's like saying Elon Musk is
a superhero. No. Because he'srich.
Mark (31:21):
No. He's not. No. It's Because a bat a combination of
things. He's rich.
Sarah (31:29):
It's complicated.
Mark (31:30):
And mentally broken enough to dress up in a costume and
beat people up.
Sarah (31:35):
And that makes him a superhero?
Mark (31:37):
That's what he
Sarah (31:38):
is. We've had this conversation before. Can you
tell?
Mark (31:45):
Anyway, Chalmers does the right thing and interacts
positively with the child. He'sgreat. And simply He's great
Sarah (31:53):
with that little boy.
Mark (31:54):
And simply says, okay. That's who you are, and I
completely understand.
Sarah (31:59):
You want a deep cut? Yep. I have a note.
Mark (32:02):
Okay.
Sarah (32:02):
That says Reif performing Shakespeare in the pub is like
Vogon poetry.
Mark (32:07):
Yes. Woah. That is an appropriate deep cut.
Sarah (32:13):
If you've ever read Hitchhiker's Guide to the
Galaxy, there's a race of aliens
Mark (32:19):
That blow up the earth.
Sarah (32:20):
Who torture people by reading their poetry to them,
and it makes your ears bleed andmakes you go insane because it's
so bad.
Mark (32:28):
They choose to be thrown out of a spaceship rather than
listen to Rather
Sarah (32:32):
than hear anymore. Yeah. Thrown out of a spaceship into
space Yes. Rather than hear anymore Vogue on poetry. Yes.
That's that's Rafe at the snakeand tiger. I love when Mike
says, Rafe, get out of the car.
Mark (32:44):
Yes.
Sarah (32:47):
It's the only moment where Rafe is like, you're
right. Yeah, I get it. I'm Like,reality kind of Beeps together.
Little bit out
Mark (32:54):
of the car.
Sarah (32:57):
I have a major issue with the plot of this episode that I
need you to help me with. Yes.So Rafe and Mike are sitting in
the car at the Snake And Tigerbecause Mike has given Rafe a
ride there after they'vereleased him from the police
station because he has an alibi.Yes. Right?
And they're talking.
Mark (33:14):
Yes.
Sarah (33:14):
And Rafe explains to Mike that Terry was a predator.
Mark (33:19):
Yes.
Sarah (33:20):
And then he liked to trap women and manipulate women. Yes.
And he tells him what heobserved when Vicky and Terry
were sitting at the Snake AndTiger, and Terry was trying to
convince Vicky to change hername.
Mark (33:36):
Yes.
Sarah (33:36):
Right? And then lures her back to his apartment Yes. With
the letter from the supposedBroadway producer.
Mark (33:44):
I hate that. I hate that Rafe also is like and she
couldn't get her panties offfast enough.
Sarah (33:51):
I know.
Mark (33:51):
Oh, Rafe, you're horrible.
Sarah (33:53):
He is. But he conveys that information and that's
important because that's thethat's the proof that Mike needs
to know that Vicky may have goneto Terry's apartment, though she
says she's she was never there.
Mark (34:05):
Because in his completeness of description, he
also mentions Whose? Rafe's.
Sarah (34:10):
Mhmm.
Mark (34:11):
Completeness of descriptions, he also gives an
entire inventory of what Vickyis wearing, including her
earrings.
Sarah (34:18):
That's the problem I have.
Mark (34:19):
Yes.
Sarah (34:20):
So Mike has found an earring in Rafe's room. He and
Kristen agree that it could be aman's earring or a woman's
earring.
Mark (34:28):
Yes.
Sarah (34:29):
And Terry had pierced ears. He wore earrings.
Mark (34:32):
Yes.
Sarah (34:33):
So it could be his.
Mark (34:34):
It could be.
Sarah (34:35):
There's only one. It could be his. And yet, from
Rafe's telling of that story oftheir conversation at lunch,
Mike has a revelation that theearring belongs to Vicky. It is.
How can he know that?
Mark (34:48):
Mike cannot know that, but the audience knows that because
we see it.
Sarah (34:52):
So he's just taking a chance that the earring that he
found is hers?
Mark (34:56):
No. I think it's a problem in the plot, but is solved by
television.
Sarah (35:01):
And by her confessions.
Mark (35:02):
And I think that and I think they edited it in a way
that makes me feel they probablyrealized that. There's a
Sarah (35:11):
little gap.
Mark (35:11):
There's a little gappy gap there.
Sarah (35:13):
Okay. Now I need you to take a trip with me Okay. To a
place I called Knitter's Corner.Yes. Welcome to Knitter's
Corner.
Mark (35:22):
Okay. Hi.
Sarah (35:22):
Hi. It's very nice. You're not a knitter, but I
Mark (35:25):
I'm I'm not a knitter, but boy, there's a lot of yarn here.
Sarah (35:29):
I have knit many a sweater
Mark (35:31):
Yes.
Sarah (35:31):
Out of many of variation of kinds of fibers.
Mark (35:35):
Yes. Yes, you
Sarah (35:36):
have. I have never ever in my fifty years
Mark (35:40):
Yes.
Sarah (35:40):
Knit a sweater out of yarn that would be strong enough
to support that light. No.Because it would be the most
uncomfortable sweater made ofrope Yes. Ever. Yes.
Okay.
Mark (35:54):
And it's certainly not ma camre cord.
Sarah (35:59):
We say macrame and they say macrame. Yes. And that's
fine.
Mark (36:04):
It's weird.
Sarah (36:06):
A word you say very often anyway. But so I will I will
give them a nitter.
Mark (36:13):
Meanwhile, all our American listeners are like, oh.
Sarah (36:17):
Macrae. You have to watch it with the subtitles. Though,
here in Knitter's Corner Yeah.We are giving the writers a big
demerit for supposing that youcould knit a sweater out of
something strong enough to holdup a light.
Mark (36:29):
Yes.
Sarah (36:30):
I will give them bonus points for the look of Timothy's
sweater because that is theperfect example of a poorly knit
sweater.
Mark (36:41):
Yes.
Sarah (36:41):
It is I don't even know how the person who made it
managed to do such a bad job andyet have a wearable garment. And
he loves it. Of course he does,because she made it for him.
Mark (36:53):
She made it for him.
Sarah (36:54):
But if anybody who knits will know what I'm talking
about. The decreases around theneck are completely wrong. It's
like you're supposed to go downa needle size when you do
ribbing because it makes it pullin so it's stretchy. She clearly
didn't. It looks like she wentup a needle size at the ribbing
for the bottom.
I'm telling you, this isknitting corner. I warned you.
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This is like you talking aboutmusic.
Mark (37:18):
Okay.
Sarah (37:19):
His sweater is the quintessential first sweater
somebody tries to knit. Like ithas all of the problems that
somebody who doesn't quite knowwhat they're doing would create,
and it is so well done. It is sowell done.
Mark (37:35):
Well, I'm gonna
Sarah (37:35):
Bravo to whoever made that costume because it is
perfectly bad.
Mark (37:39):
Yep. We we should ask Trudy if her friend made that
costume because wow.
Sarah (37:45):
So now we can leave Knitter's Corner.
Mark (37:47):
Now, in fact, that person Facebooked me. So I will
Facebook them and ask. Yeah?Yeah. I will.
Sarah (37:53):
Great. Okay. It's it's it is it's great.
Mark (37:57):
I realize I'm a visitor here in Knitter's Corner, but I
also have a comment aboutknitting to add to Knitter's
Corner.
Sarah (38:05):
Okay.
Mark (38:07):
She has no idea how
Sarah (38:08):
to knit. Oh, no. The actress that plays Vicky does
not know how to knit.
Mark (38:12):
In the same way that often people who play musicians have
no idea how to hold or playtheir instruments.
Sarah (38:19):
I don't think any actress who's ever played Merple knows
how to knit either. And she'ssupposedly constantly knitting
things, and somebody'sresponsible for casting on a few
rows of something on the needlesand handing it to the actress
Mark (38:34):
I don't then know just if they even did that.
Sarah (38:36):
Who then just jams the needles into each other
Mark (38:39):
and plays with the down.
Sarah (38:41):
Yeah. Or sits them in their lap and holds them in a
way that a knitter never wouldhold them because the stitches
would immediately fall off.
Mark (38:47):
So that is my contribution to knitters.
Sarah (38:50):
That was a totally valid contribution to knitters corner.
Congratulations.
Mark (38:54):
Do you have a review of the, craft shop where she buys
the McCrammy?
Sarah (38:59):
It is, not a craft shop.
Mark (39:01):
It is a
Sarah (39:02):
craft shop.
Mark (39:03):
It's a craft shop.
Sarah (39:07):
They don't have enough balls of the same color of the
same yarn to even make asweater.
Mark (39:10):
They have a lot of ribbons.
Sarah (39:12):
Is she buying it at the hardware store?
Mark (39:14):
I don't know where she
Sarah (39:15):
is. Maybe that explains the yarn. She buys it at the
hardware
Mark (39:19):
store.
Sarah (39:21):
I don't a jumbo shop.
Mark (39:23):
Maybe. Something? What I don't like is her the sudden
hand movement due to get itcatching on his wrist, which it
wouldn't have actually, I don'tlike the wrist part.
Sarah (39:37):
Okay, I completely relate to the wrist. I can actually
defend that. So one time I waswalking a dog who was super
rambunctious, and I had one ofthose leashes that reels into
the handle, so you can let itout and let them run a little
bit. And she took off with it,and it startled me enough that I
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let go of the leash, it fell outof my hand. So she ran, and as
she ran, because the leashhandle is heavy and was kind of
catching on the grass, itstretched the leash out to its
maximum length,
Mark (40:11):
Okay.
Sarah (40:12):
But then the dog decided to run back to me Oh. And pass
to me. Oh. And then back to me.And when she did that, the leash
cord wrapped around my bareankle.
This I understand. Severed myAchilles tendon.
Mark (40:27):
I understand this. And I got enough rope burns from water
skiing to absolutely understandthis.
Sarah (40:34):
What
Mark (40:35):
I don't understand is how it works in this situation.
Sarah (40:38):
Like how it manages to loop itself around like that?
Yes. What I don't understand ishow you wear a sweater made out
of something that is strongenough to hold up the light and
rough enough to do that kind ofabrasion. That sweater has got
to be miserable.
Mark (40:52):
It can't be nice.
Sarah (40:53):
It's got to be rough.
Mark (40:54):
Timothy, with a callback to the Christmas episode with
the steak and cheese pie beingking of pies. Mhmm. Just a
callback. Call it's likecallback callback Shakespeare
reference. Callback Shakespearereference.
Callback.
Sarah (41:09):
Yep. So here's a challenge to our listeners. When
they're on stage in thedenouement and Vicky confesses
Yes. In a very sweet scene Yes.She and Timothy sing to each
other before she goes.
Mark (41:22):
I'm absolutely sure that if she ran out of the building,
Mike would be like, I guess wehave to chase her. Yeah.
Sarah (41:32):
Do we have to? But they have this very sweet scene that
makes everybody cry where theysing
Mark (41:37):
Including Sims.
Sarah (41:37):
Because they sing to each other all
Mark (41:39):
the Yeah.
Sarah (41:40):
It's just part of who they are.
Mark (41:41):
Yep.
Sarah (41:42):
And they sing to each other. And the line that she
sings is, He called me nothing,and did I mention how much I
love you? Yeah. And the way theysing it, it sounds familiar to
me. But I searched all over theplace for lyrics, and I can't
find that song.
I thought at first maybe WestSide Story or something like
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that. I couldn't find itanywhere. So listeners, if you
recognize those lyrics, if youknow where they're from, please
tell us. Yes. If
Mark (42:14):
I have in my notes, stop singing. You're about to be
arrested.
Sarah (42:17):
Yeah. If they wrote those lyrics for the episode, they did
a really good job.
Mark (42:23):
They did.
Sarah (42:24):
Because it sounds like a musical, what they're singing to
your side.
Mark (42:27):
And then in the best part of physical comedy in the entire
episode, Todd goes to clap. Yes.Frodo stops him.
Sarah (42:35):
And that's why Frodo is the smartest oge. He is the
smartest oge. He actually hassome social intelligence.
Clearly, Todd does not. Yes.
And I misspoke earlier. I saidTodd was Frodo's cousin. Todd is
Jared's cousin.
Mark (42:51):
Jared's cousin.
Sarah (42:52):
Jared of the Rubber Boots. Yes. Who is long gone
now.
Mark (42:54):
Yes. And we find that Mike is not married because he is
still married
Sarah (42:59):
Yeah.
Mark (43:00):
To a woman who lives eight hours south in an unreliable
valley.
Sarah (43:05):
With being off the grid.
Mark (43:07):
And she is not responsive.
Sarah (43:10):
And thus we get the introduction of the secondary
plot of the season. Yes. AndBeth has gone to visit her
mother
Mark (43:17):
In Oz.
Sarah (43:17):
While he straightens things out. Yes. That Do you
think she's mad?
Mark (43:22):
I would think that she would be like, let's get
married. And he was kind ofterse about it. And then when
they got home she was like,what's going on with that?
Because she seems to be a veryforthright communicative Mhmm.
Person.
And he would have said, well,it's actually like I'm not I'm
not unmarried to this woman. Andshe would have said, okay, well
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you have x amount of time tofigure this out, or we're not
getting married, or I'm notgoing to be with you.
Sarah (43:53):
Is that what you would do in that situation?
Mark (43:55):
Oh god, not me. I'm an emotional wreck. I'm completely
the wrong person to ask what Iwould do.
Sarah (44:02):
I think there's just as much chance that Beth would say,
let's get this figured out.
Mark (44:07):
Yes.
Sarah (44:07):
We'll drive down there together.
Mark (44:08):
Yes. Oh, I'm sure if it's a matter of convincing her, I'm
sure Beth would volunteer to dothat.
Sarah (44:15):
Mhmm. But apparently Beth needs to know that Mike really
means it.
Mark (44:19):
Yes.
Sarah (44:19):
And that's why she's
Mark (44:20):
Which I can understand also.
Sarah (44:22):
Yeah. I can. I can. It's been eight years though. Yes.
So it's not like he's still hungup on
Mark (44:27):
this He's not hung up on this woman.
Sarah (44:30):
But he does need to prove that he wants to marry Beth
enough that he's willing tostraighten it out.
Mark (44:35):
Yes. And not straightening it out for eight years is a bit
irresponsible in Mike's case.
Sarah (44:42):
Yeah.
Mark (44:42):
And does not like, I can see her going, that's maybe not
the person I wanna spend the
Sarah (44:49):
money on. Poorly on his character that he hasn't taken
care of it before now.
Mark (44:53):
Yes. It does. Yeah. And then we see the broken tree,
which is the broken wood.
Sarah (44:57):
Yes. Which is also the thing that was in the mysterious
picture in the snake and tiger.
Mark (45:03):
Which is in a future episode, I think. Is it? I think
it's in one of the latest seasonepisodes.
Sarah (45:08):
Where we ask people, what is that what is that picture?
It's something that's surroundedby, like, a fence?
Mark (45:14):
Now we know it's a giant stump with Frodo in it rapping.
Sarah (45:18):
We had to go back in time to solve a future question.
Mark (45:22):
Yes. Aren't we cool? Speaking
Sarah (45:26):
And that is Brokenwood the musical.
Mark (45:28):
Brokenwood the musical. So what would mince what would
mystery maniacs the musical belike?
Sarah (45:37):
I think you should just look at that bingo card and make
a song about it in square.
Mark (45:41):
I would sing a song about how I don't like musicals. Yeah.
Definitely. There would be theso so so so so song.
Sarah (45:48):
Yeah. Because you have to cut up every
Mark (45:51):
time we say
Sarah (45:51):
so much.
Mark (45:53):
So Perhaps the Halloween decoration song?
Sarah (45:57):
Maybe.
Mark (45:58):
And the Mark Does Too Many
Sarah (46:00):
Hobbies song? We could have the don't use that for your
outtake song
Mark (46:05):
Yes.
Sarah (46:05):
Where I just say one embarrassing thing after another
followed by and don't use thatfor your outtake. Yes. Because
that happens a lot.
Mark (46:13):
And then finally, we're sick again.
Sarah (46:15):
So No. I don't want to sing that song ever again. No.
No. Not that.
Mark (46:21):
We are we are healthy right now.
Sarah (46:23):
We could sing the what do you mean there are no more
midsummers for us to cover? Yes.We never thought we would get to
that point.
Mark (46:30):
Yes. We definitely have that in some sort of origin that
revolves around me wearingriding a moose.
Sarah (46:37):
Instead of a bald eagle.
Mark (46:39):
Yes.
Sarah (46:40):
Like like a moose came up to you in the woods and
whispered, make a podcast aboutIf
Mark (46:46):
you make it, they will come.
Sarah (46:47):
And then and then wrote ran away. Yep. Is that what
moose do? Is do they whisper
Mark (46:53):
like that? I guess so. So should Vicky go to prison? Yes.
She killed a person?
Sarah (46:58):
Yes. Premeditated murder. Yep. But I think it's reckless
homicide.
Mark (47:03):
Yeah. I think I think
Sarah (47:05):
because I think she can argue that she didn't mean to
kill him Yeah. If she's got agood lawyer.
Mark (47:09):
I'm thinking Buchanan could easily get her off on
reckless homicide.
Sarah (47:15):
But she's still going to prison.
Mark (47:16):
Yeah. She's still going prison. Yeah. I think Rafe's
going back to prison. He's doingstuff that he should not be
doing.
Sarah (47:22):
He needs something. He's not ready to be out on his own.
Mark (47:26):
The mayor needs to have some fiscal responsibility.
Sarah (47:30):
If I was a taxpayer in Brokenwood, I would want to know
what happened to that money.
Mark (47:35):
Yes. And we know that Missy shows up in a couple of
Sarah (47:38):
more episodes, so we're I like her. I'm glad that she
Mark (47:41):
Yes. Definitely. So and that is Prokenwood, the musical.
Sarah (47:47):
Mhmm. Before we wrap up
Mark (47:49):
Yes.
Sarah (47:50):
I would like to ask the listeners a question.
Mark (47:53):
Yes.
Sarah (47:53):
We know at some point in the near future, near being in
the next four months probably.
Mark (47:59):
No. I would say within the next four weeks, we'll know.
Sarah (48:02):
Yeah. Yeah. There will be new episodes of Midsommar. Yes.
And it's been a long time sincewe've had new episodes of
Mark (48:08):
December, January.
Sarah (48:10):
Yes. So we'll, of course, do minis, and then we'll do
regular episodes on Midsummer.But Yes. It feels to me like we
should celebrate a new season ofMidsummer in some bigger way.
Yes.
Like, I don't know, a live showor what do you call it when you
watch something together? Watchparty. A watch party. Something.
(48:33):
Something.
So if you have ideas
Mark (48:35):
Yes.
Sarah (48:35):
On how we should celebrate a new season of
Midsommar
Mark (48:38):
Yes.
Sarah (48:39):
Let us know.
Mark (48:40):
Please let us know. We would love
Sarah (48:42):
Mystery maniacs podcast@Gmail.com.
Mark (48:45):
Yes. And, of course, contact us if you're going to
Midsummer Live and tell us allabout it and what other
Sarah (48:52):
Give us the scoop.
Mark (48:53):
What other maniacs you met there.
Sarah (48:57):
Alright. Until next time. Bye, maniacs.
Mark (49:01):
Bye, maniacs. Thanks for joining us on the mystery
maniacs podcast. If you enjoyedour crazy podcast today, don't
miss out on future episodes.Follow us on social media for
updates, beyond the scenescontent, and exclusive sneak
peeks. Subscribe, like, andshare to spread the word.
Bye, Maniacs. Go back to myreference about the despicable
(49:23):
people from there. The guy whodid the killdozer thing in
Colorado is from there.
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