The Worst Book Club Ever! | Brokenwood | "A Real Page Turner" | Mystery Maniacs Podcast EP234 - Mystery Maniacs

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Sarah (00:00):
They rip it off at once. It's jupunk. It's gone. Right?

(00:03):
Scream pain, pain, gone.
Hey, maniacs.

Mark (00:21):
Hey, maniacs. Mystery maniacs is a comedy recap
podcast dedicated to mystery TV.Each week we dig into an episode
of the show including themurders, the mayhem, the loonies
and everything else we love.This week, Brokenwood Mysteries
season six episode two, a realPaige Turner.

Sarah (00:40):
A real Paige Turner.

Mark (00:42):
A real Paige there's somebody named Paige Turner in
the episode.

Sarah (00:49):
No. It's the fake Paige Turner.

Mark (00:51):
Oh, there must be some human being with the unfortunate
name Paige Turner.

Sarah (00:56):
Yeah. Like gerrymander a couple weeks ago.

Mark (00:59):
Yeah. Wow. That would be like, thanks mom and dad.

Sarah (01:02):
Couple of exciting things coming up. Most importantly, new
Brokenwood episodes will go liveon the April 28. Yes. If you are
a new listener, meaning that youwere not a listener back when we
covered the most recent episodesof Midsummer, you might not know
that we do this thing called amini episode when a new show

(01:25):
airs or episodes of a new newepisodes of a show air. I got
that out, eventually.

Mark (01:31):
Yep.

Sarah (01:32):
And these mini episodes are intended to be listened to
before you watch.

Mark (01:38):
And give you clues as to how to watch like a maniac.
Exactly.

Sarah (01:44):
So they're spoiler free, short, but will draw your
attention to a few things thatyou might miss otherwise. Then
you watch the episode, and thenwhen we get to that new season
in the normal order of events,we'll have a full episode about
it.

Mark (02:00):
So that means that in late April and early May, you'll be
getting double episodes.

Sarah (02:07):
Yes. Because you'll be getting a mini and the full. And
if the new season is notavailable where you live, then
you can listen to them when itbecomes available.

Mark (02:16):
You just don't listen to them. And then, like when the
new episodes of Midsommar are onin England, I always repost
those episodes. Yeah. Those miniepisodes.

Sarah (02:27):
Because they can be like 18 old at that point even. They
delay them so much. So we'llstart doing that in late April
when those new episodes startdropping. That'll make it more
fun to watch, the new episodes.

Mark (02:39):
Yes. And then season twenty five as we talked about
is already in production for

Sarah (02:43):
That's midsummer.

Mark (02:44):
Midsummer. We are two degrees separated from Neil Ray.
Mhmm. Explain. Three degreesseparated from Neil Ray.
We had a listener named Amandawho was at a Academic. Academic
conference. We have a lot ofacademics We do. Who follow us.
And she went to a presentationof a New Zealand Scholar and
then spoke to him afterwards andmentioned that she liked mid

(03:08):
Brokenwood.
New Zealand and Brokenwood. Andhe said, oh, I work out in the
same gym as Neil Ray. So really,we're the same person now.

Sarah (03:19):
It's just a tiny tiny world, you know? It is indeed.
So And we all get around. So

Mark (03:25):
What have we even been watching? Ludwig. Wow. That show
is good.

Sarah (03:28):
It's good. I like it a lot.

Mark (03:30):
It's super good.

Sarah (03:31):
Should I tell my embarrassing story from this
week?

Mark (03:34):
Yeah. Yes. You

Sarah (03:38):
People can can get a laugh out of my embarrassment. I

Mark (03:42):
told my toothpaste story, so you should tell this story.

Sarah (03:46):
All right. So and I'll I'll do it short, but I think
people will get a giggle out ofit. So at work, and I work at a
university at a business school,I think everybody knows that,
I'm in charge of a lot of thetechnology at the school. And so
we have a partnership withMicrosoft, right? So they come
to campus with this big fancyvideo team to create like a

(04:09):
promo video about, oh, it's abusiness school using our new AI
prod product, right?
And they did interviews with,various faculty and students and
stuff, but then they needed todo b roll.

Mark (04:22):
And this is high end people. Like they have a makeup
person.

Sarah (04:25):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you don't know, b
roll is like silent footage thatthey might like play with a
voice over over it or it's youknow it's it's extra footage to
fill gaps basically. So I getroped into being in this shoot
in my new brand new dean'smeaning my boss boss's office,

(04:47):
where we're supposed to, he andI and an associate dean are
supposed to be looking at alaptop pretending to talk about

Mark (04:54):
And normally in those situations

Sarah (04:56):
on the laptop.

Mark (04:56):
You just say rhubarb, rhubarb,

Sarah (04:58):
rhubarb, or watermelon Yapity app, whatever. Yep.
Because I have a PC laptop, andI had the software installed on
my machine already, I brought mylaptop and set it up on the
table so that's the one that wecould be referring to.

Mark (05:13):
But that's not all you have on that laptop.

Sarah (05:15):
No. On the back of my laptop is a great big mystery
maniac sticker. And the directorof this shoot was like, oh,
what's that sticker? I said,it's a podcast my husband and I
have been doing for a long time.And he's like, oh, well, what is

(05:36):
it?
And I was like, it's mystery TV.It's just a thing that we do.
And he's like, what's it called?Mystery what? Maniacs?
Is that on Spotify? He's got hisphone out. He's like, oh, I
found it.

Mark (05:48):
This is in front of the dean.

Sarah (05:50):
Yes. In the dean's office in a shoot I wasn't even
supposed to be part of that Igot roped into.

Mark (05:56):
Pulls up our latest episode. Now what was the name
of that episode again?

Sarah (06:00):
Sexy hats and toothpaste farts, which he then reads in
front of everybody. He's like,oh, because he's, like, gleeful
and happy. He's like, oh, Ifound it. Look. What a cool logo
you guys have.
Let me see. Oh, the latestepisode is called sexy hats and
tooth toothpaste farts. And he'slike, it's like, it it's an in

(06:22):
joke about the show that we weretalking about. And he's like,
yeah. Yeah.
And then he hits play. And hearsmy voice coming out of his
phone. And everybody's juststanding around like

Mark (06:36):
And then the dean turns

Sarah (06:37):
you. What is going on?

Mark (06:38):
Do you guys do poirot?

Sarah (06:40):
Yeah. I'm like, oh. So This is not good.

Mark (06:43):
If you if the new dean is listening, welcome.

Sarah (06:46):
Yeah. Hello. Hi. Sorry. They had to pile a bunch of
innocuous books behind my laptopso that the sticker isn't in the
shot.
Like, oh, boy. I'm not evensupposed to be here. Like, I got
totally roped into even being inthat shot. Then they made me
walk down a hallway and looklike I was talking to peep I I

(07:08):
was so embarrassing.

Mark (07:10):
Well Anyhow This up

Sarah (07:12):
Sexy hats and toothpaste farts because I'm classy like
that with my PhD. Oh, boy.

Mark (07:18):
This episode was originally aired on the
11/17/2019, which is so weirdbecause we're only almost
halfway through Brokenwood andwe're just getting to Twenty
nineteen. '20 '19 to, pandemicepisodes. Right? Back in
November 2019, we were all like,oh, something's happening in

(07:41):
China.

Sarah (07:43):
Not even that, late twenty nineteen. Maybe by
Christmas we might have heard alittle bit, but no.

Mark (07:48):
Written by Fiona Samuel, who actually writes two
episodes, this and one from thenext season that we will have to
talk about at the end of thisepisode.

Sarah (07:59):
This is a good story. I like it. It's different than
kind of the goofier sort of someof the goofy plots that they do
that are fun. But it's it's kindof I don't know. It's not it's
not that it's serious, but it'sgot a lot of townies in it.
It's gotten you know,

Mark (08:16):
it's And it it goes by the detective show trope of let's
create a character so hateablethat everybody has a motive to
kill him.

Sarah (08:26):
Yeah. And that's what cozies do. Right? We're not
supposed to actually be sad he'sdead. No.
As viewers. And we're notbecause he's hideous. And he
only becomes more and morehideous as we see flashbacks of
his interactions with people.

Mark (08:40):
And we do they do a very good job in the writing of
making people who appeardislikable at first, likable.

Sarah (08:49):
Mhmm. But not him.

Mark (08:50):
No. Maxine, you feel very sympathetic towards at the end.

Sarah (08:56):
Really? Kinda. Maybe. Maybe. A little well, no.
Anyway.

Mark (09:03):
I would pay money to see Jack reading his book with Jared
and Sims in the car. Like, wantJack in the backseat reading the
book because they could not lookmore uncomfortable than they
already do.

Sarah (09:20):
So Jack Rudd is the author. And you may have
recognized this actor. His nameis Matt Whelan. I think that's
how you pronounce his name.Yeah.
If you've watched A RemarkablePlace to Die, he plays a
sergeant or a DC or something.He's the sidekick to the main
character. And he is so kind andso supportive and like the
opposite of this character.

Mark (09:41):
And like kind of like awe shucks a

Sarah (09:44):
Very much so.

Mark (09:46):
And that that show so Remarkable Place to Die is the
first season's over. And I'veheard a couple of people online
talk about this. I think whathas happened is they did four
episodes and like Brokenwood,they're not sure if they're
gonna get renewed or not at theend of this series. So they're

(10:06):
gonna put everything they can inthat last episode to make it
incredibly interesting. Yeah.
And the last, I would say,twenty minutes of that show is
like 200 times the speed therest of the And

Sarah (10:22):
Hopefully it'll get renewed because I liked it.

Mark (10:25):
I think it's really good. He's also in a show called The
Gone that I'm not sure why wedidn't watch it. It's Brokenwood
with Irish cops and the ladyfrom Game of Thrones, Mama Stark

Sarah (10:40):
Mhmm.

Mark (10:40):
Who plays an Irish gangster living in New Zealand
and missing tourists and likeall Sounds

Sarah (10:46):
right up our Yeah.

Mark (10:47):
Like I don't know why we didn't watch that. All the
episodes are available on Acornso we'll probably watch that
sometime soon.

Sarah (10:54):
So the bookstore is called Slim Volumes.

Mark (10:57):
Oh, the bookstore. Okay.

Sarah (10:59):
Why is it called Slim Volumes? I don't Like I know
that means a small book. But whywould why would you call the
bookstore I

Mark (11:07):
would not call the bookstore.

Sarah (11:08):
I I would call it like Fat Volumes.

Mark (11:09):
Or Maxine's Books. Maxie books. Maxine's books.

Sarah (11:15):
I'm so rich I don't need to own a bookstore and run it,
but I do anyway books.

Mark (11:20):
So I have a problem with the bookstore. So when we see
Jared and Sims come into thebook store, there is a long
walkway to the front door.

Sarah (11:32):
Mhmm.

Mark (11:32):
Has the sign on it that is continually shown with the red
sauce. What is that red saucesupposed to be?

Sarah (11:40):
I'm guessing marinara. I don't know what do you dip
sausage rolls in. I've neverdipped them in anything.

Mark (11:46):
I don't

Sarah (11:46):
know but serve bunch of

Mark (11:48):
egg wash.

Sarah (11:50):
She's in trouble now.

Mark (11:51):
They're a little pale.

Sarah (11:52):
Okay. First of all, you cover any dish that you take to
an event. Well, yeah. And ifyou're taking something like
that, as somebody who takes foodto work every single week, you
put those in a container, youput that sauce in a container
with a lid, then you take

Mark (12:07):
the And you let Jared take it.

Sarah (12:09):
And you take the tray as well. Yeah. And when you get
there, you put the sausage rollson the tray at the location.

Mark (12:16):
Yes. Absolutely. You give it to Jared to carry, and if
you're carrying that many books,you put them in a big book bag.

Sarah (12:24):
Yeah, you don't carry a stick. No. Are they broadcasting
the book reading on the radio?

Mark (12:30):
No, I think the diegetic sound is that she's listening to
the book at the same time he's

Sarah (12:38):
But they're at the very same point in the book as well.
It's a miracle. Why would youlisten to the audiobook on your
way to the book reading?

Mark (12:46):
Why would you listen to the band on the way to the The
concert. Some people do.

Sarah (12:52):
I guess.

Mark (12:53):
So anyway, back to this stupid bookstore. Okay. So
there's the long walkway.

Sarah (12:57):
It's a house.

Mark (12:58):
Now Yeah. There's shots later on on the stairwell
looking out the front door thathas traffic going by. There's a
sidewalk and there's Are yousaying the

Sarah (13:12):
exterior and the interior are not the same location?

Mark (13:15):
Are not the same location. Okay. And I also believe
wholeheartedly the scene of theroom with the book reading in it
and the kitchen are a completelydifferent set. I think that set
is three different setscompletely. And that would only
annoy a maniac and the editor ofthe piece.

Sarah (13:35):
Especially those shots out the front door, knowing that
it's so different.

Mark (13:38):
There is an editor who is like, they shouldn't have done
that.

Sarah (13:43):
But gosh, for production to have to film three different
locations just to get onelocation Yeah. That's that's
difficult. But it is a house.Like the bookstore is in a
house.

Mark (13:57):
Which in a small town there's sometimes like in
Carlton Place, there's abookstore that's in a house.

Sarah (14:03):
Yeah. And that's fine but that's why it has a kitchen and
a bathroom upstairs anddownstairs and two rooms
upstairs that we don't know whatthey are.

Mark (14:10):
And there are a lot of people at this book reading.
People that we know and newpeople. So Kristen and Jared are
the last to arrive with Gina,who's got a bone to pick with
the author. Okay. So that'sthree.
Missus M is there as well. Mhmm.The Rev Green is there as

Sarah (14:31):
well. Petra, the ex wife.

Mark (14:33):
Petra, the ex wife.

Sarah (14:35):
Yep. And Lindy and and Drake, the teacher and the
student.

Mark (14:40):
So we're like, oh, those are new people. Yep. And mister
Carnaby.

Sarah (14:44):
Yeah.

Mark (14:45):
Okay.

Sarah (14:45):
Obviously, Jake is supposed to be a very high
selling author. Yes. Like, he'sa big author. Yes. But if this
is what his books sound like, ifthis is his writing, he
shouldn't be.

Mark (14:57):
Yes. I think it's it they do a really good job in implying
that maybe he's not the bestwriter of the world.

Sarah (15:06):
Like, maybe people don't buy his books because of the
intricate plots.

Mark (15:12):
Yes.

Sarah (15:13):
Maybe they're along the lines of like, saying, oh, I
like books about monsters, andso I read Twilight. Like, yeah,
you're reading it for themonsters. Yeah. Sure. While he's
talking about penetrating with aknife.

Mark (15:29):
It's certainly the erotic thriller genre. Now, I'm not
gonna challenge anybody who hasactually written a book, though
it's unsure if he's actuallywritten a book. It it it takes
an enormous amount of work toeven write 80,000 words.

Sarah (15:47):
Well, yeah. I'm not saying that we should say that
he's not a writer. That's notit. It's that he is so obviously
pandering to a certain kind ofaudience, and it's not one that
likes intricate plots. It's onewhere he can say, sorry, I'm a
little dry.
And Petra says, well, speak foryourself. Yeah. I Like, Lindy

(16:10):
and Drake are there because shethinks he's her dad. Yeah. And
everybody else is there becausethey've got a a boner of some
sort for Rudd.

Mark (16:19):
Yeah. What did you think about that joke from Petra?

Sarah (16:22):
I was made uncomfortable by it.

Mark (16:24):
I was also made uncomfortable by it. It's it's

Sarah (16:29):
Has she already slept with him by that point

Mark (16:31):
or not? She had already slept with him. It's not that
I'm offended or it's not safefor work or anything like that.
I just don't think it's aBrokenwood joke.

Sarah (16:41):
No. And it's not a book reading joke.

Mark (16:43):
No. It's not

Sarah (16:44):
a in public book reading joke.

Mark (16:46):
Well, soon enough Petra finds him, knifed at the top of
the stairs.

Sarah (16:52):
Yeah. Is it a letter opener?

Mark (16:54):
I don't know but the subtitle of this entire episode
should be don't leave kniveslying around.

Sarah (17:00):
Especially on a tiny table at the top of the stairs.

Mark (17:03):
That's an accident waiting to happen.

Sarah (17:05):
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, leave your katana on the
top step. I don't know. It justseems so dangerous.
But you you know he's gonna getkilled. Yes. As soon as he opens
his mouth, you're like, ah, thevictim. Yes. Because a, we don't
know him.
We've never seen him before. Andb, he's obviously an asshole.

(17:26):
Yes. Off the bat.

Mark (17:27):
Clearly, couple of things. There is a giant hole here,
which is as soon as Mikearrives, Sims should go go home.
Yeah. Like, immediately. Yeah.
And Hugh should be go home.Yeah. And Hugh should be there.

Sarah (17:43):
It would take him a little bit. But certainly, Mike
should not be questioning Petraor interviewing Petra.

Mark (17:48):
None of that. No. He should. None of that. So we're
gonna take that for risk.
Just,

Sarah (17:52):
yeah. We all agree that should not have happened.

Mark (17:55):
So then they do such a good job of letting Gina's story
out in little bits.

Sarah (18:03):
I love it. She's like, can I go examine the body? And
Maxine's like, the man's hardlycalled. And she's like, that's
my point.

Mark (18:11):
Yes. Like like, this is a this is a dream for a
pathologist.

Sarah (18:16):
Half of the police are already there. Yeah. And they're
on the scene already.

Mark (18:20):
And then we find out that maybe he's written his latest
book where the main charactergets stabbed in the back like
him by a deranged pathologist.Number two, Sims then looks at
Gina and goes, go Yeah.

Sarah (18:40):
Why did Jared go? I think Jared Did he just need a ride
that direction

Mark (18:45):
in town? Jared direction in town? I think Jared went
because he is the kind of guythat says, that Sim says I'm
going to a book reading and hegoes, oh I'll go with you.

Sarah (18:57):
But he he's read the books and he doesn't like them.

Mark (19:00):
He doesn't really like them all that much. Or he's part
of book club already.

Sarah (19:05):
Maybe. Or maybe Jared is just small town guy who likes to
be where things are gonnahappen. Maybe. And he's like, oh
this will be interesting.

Mark (19:15):
Because there are those people. Oh yeah. Absolutely.

Sarah (19:19):
And he knows town enough to know like, I know what this
guy's like. This will be fun towatch. Not even if, you know,
not knowing he's gonna getkilled. So Mike does interview
Petra. And when he does, it's inthe nook.

Mark (19:34):
Yes.

Sarah (19:35):
And there's this incredible lamp behind him. Did
you see it?

Mark (19:39):
It's a very nice lamp.

Sarah (19:41):
But I never got a shot of the whole thing. But it's like
these blue hanging kind ofglobes that are like suspended
in a spiral kind of. It's sopretty. And I kept trying to see
the whole lamp and I never gotto see it.

Mark (19:56):
And we find out that Petra is there having slept with him
while her fiance is not thereand she wants to keep everything
secret. Sims shows up out ofnowhere in the nook and goes, go
home. Yeah. Like You mean thecheese maker? The artisanal

(20:17):
cheese maker.

Sarah (20:18):
The man bun, the bearded cheese maker.

Mark (20:21):
Who we see again. Yeah.

Sarah (20:25):
But you look at him and you're like, you either make
beer or cheese.

Mark (20:27):
Yes. He is most definitely.

Sarah (20:29):
Or you lead a yoga retreat or something.

Mark (20:32):
In Maxine's interview we hear all sorts of details about
how she brought him and paid foreverything. She divorced well.
Boy did she divorce well.

Sarah (20:42):
More than once I think.

Mark (20:43):
$2 a night for that place.

Sarah (20:46):
By my math she shelled out about $50.

Mark (20:50):
Yeah. That's a lot.

Sarah (20:52):
Because Rudd is a cheapskate manipulator. Yep.
Like he even wanted Gina to payfor him to come visit her. Yeah.
Like dude, you're a best sellingauthor.
You're already getting freelabor out of her.

Mark (21:05):
Yeah.

Sarah (21:05):
Pay for your own flight. She's like, I'm a Russian. I
don't fall for scams. Like,yeah, you guys make scams. You
don't fall for scams.
The Reverend Green is there.

Mark (21:14):
He's trying to get in the author's bag.

Sarah (21:17):
Well, he's trying to hide it.

Mark (21:18):
It could contain a vital clue.

Sarah (21:20):
They kind of insinuate like Rudd has slept with
everybody in the room.

Mark (21:24):
Yeah. Breen says that. Like Did he have a go with
everybody?

Sarah (21:28):
Like the the rev wasn't trying to sleep with him. He was
trying to get

Mark (21:31):
help with his book. Yes. Which Pedra can't put down.

Sarah (21:37):
So I'm confused about the history of Okay. So remember,
this is a spoiler podcast. We'vealready talked about who the
killer is. It doesn't matter.Okay.
So there's a bit here I'mconfused about. All So KL
Carnaby is a professor Yes. Ofcreative writing. Somewhere

(21:57):
close. Hamish Drake and JakeRudd so Hamish is a high school
teacher and Jake is the deadauthor were students of Carnaby.

Mark (22:07):
Somewhere close.

Sarah (22:09):
And while they were in college, they met Tony, who was
the cleaner.

Mark (22:14):
Yes.

Sarah (22:14):
Now Hamish got left another school and came to teach
at Brokenwood.

Mark (22:21):
Yes.

Sarah (22:22):
So he's it's not like he's from Brokenwood. No. Maybe.
I don't know. And and yet, Tony,Hamish, and Carnaby all end up
in the same town.

Mark (22:33):
It is an

Sarah (22:33):
incredible But not the town where they met.

Mark (22:36):
Yeah. It's an incredible coincidence that he comes to
town. Well But this is

Sarah (22:41):
Him coming to town is something completely different.
So Rudd goes away, becomes a bigauthor, whatever. He he gets
brought back to town by Maxine.But the other three already live
there, but it's not where theymet.

Mark (22:55):
No.

Sarah (22:56):
That I don't get.

Mark (22:57):
And it's a little bit like Written in Blood, The Midsommar,
where it's an incrediblecoincidence that happens Mhmm.
To make what happens happen.

Sarah (23:09):
Yeah. Considering Maxine brought Rudd to town Yeah.
Because she, all by herself, wascorresponding with him. It's not
like the book club voted andsaid we wanna bring

Mark (23:20):
Yeah.

Sarah (23:20):
Rudd here. I'm sure she had some persuasion. And if if
it happened, like if Tony andRudd got together in Brokenwood,
like if if Lindy was conceivedin Brokenwood, everybody there
would know that he's her dad.Yeah. Right?
Like missus m would know. Yes.And they don't. No. So it must

(23:43):
have happened somewhere else.

Mark (23:44):
It must have happened at uni.

Sarah (23:46):
So it's just a coincidence that three people
moved to the same small townafterwards?

Mark (23:50):
It's it's a bit of a stretch.

Sarah (23:52):
Okay. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't
confused. Like, it didn't happenin Brokenwood. No. There's not a
university around the cornerthat we've just never seen or
heard of.
Right?

Mark (24:01):
No. Okay. Maxine confronts Petra about sleeping with Rudd.

Sarah (24:06):
Okay. Maxine's totally toasted.

Mark (24:08):
Okay. She's totally toasted, but she's right.

Sarah (24:11):
I know. But she calls her every name under

Mark (24:15):
the Which proves that Petra has just lied to Mike and
Sims should show up and go gohome.

Sarah (24:23):
Yeah. My cheese maker is here to pick me up. Immediately.
Yet another reason.

Mark (24:30):
Mike should be off the case.

Sarah (24:31):
But you know, it's a small town. Sometimes you gotta
make allowances. Wow. Cops in asmall town sometimes have to
investigate people they know.

Mark (24:39):
Did he bring okay. So he brought his bag with his laptop
and condoms. Did he think he wasgonna get some luck upstairs or
something?

Sarah (24:49):
I I think a man like him just I mean, when he meets
Petra, he doesn't even know hername and says, come on.

Mark (24:56):
They're like bonk crazy.

Sarah (24:59):
So if he's that kind of person,

Mark (25:01):
yeah. I guess so. He is a dead bruh. He he

Sarah (25:05):
He might walk around with one in his hand just in case.

Mark (25:10):
Condom hand.

Sarah (25:11):
I mean, never mind your wallet.

Mark (25:13):
Next step.

Sarah (25:13):
That's too called hand condom. Hand condom and
toothpaste farts. You know, youdon't wanna delay by having to
look around in your bag.

Mark (25:22):
So parents Rudd's parents are dead, and he has a brother
that lives in Canada. Okay.

Sarah (25:28):
Of course, he does.

Mark (25:29):
Stop. Sims' first call should be to the brother in
Canada and saying, you need tocome here right now. Yeah. Your
brother has been murdered.

Sarah (25:41):
Yes.

Mark (25:41):
If my brother was killed, not even murdered, killed in
another country and they calledme, I would go immediately.

Sarah (25:51):
Maybe his brother doesn't like him very much.

Mark (25:55):
I don't care.

Sarah (25:58):
If Rudd was your brother

Mark (26:00):
Because you're in Canada doesn't mean that your trip No,

Sarah (26:05):
it's too far away.

Mark (26:06):
It's not too

Sarah (26:07):
far It's way too far away.

Mark (26:08):
There are planes and things like that.

Sarah (26:11):
But this whole thing happens in like three days. His
brother couldn't get there thatfast. Yes. It would take him a
week to get there.

Mark (26:18):
So we go to the most gorgeous Airbnb to meet Tony
Morris and I'm like, no writermakes that much money.

Sarah (26:25):
Well, because he's not paying

Mark (26:26):
for it.

Sarah (26:26):
Maxine's paying

Mark (26:27):
for it.

Sarah (26:27):
But that is It's beautiful. Yeah. It's really
really beautiful.

Mark (26:31):
And Mike finds two glasses and red panties. Now Sims does.
Sims does.

Sarah (26:37):
Yes.

Mark (26:38):
And we we are convinced he is more awful by the moment. And
I'm like, at this point in timeI'm like, didn't Tony do it? I
was like, I was confused.

Sarah (26:50):
You thought the cleaner did it?

Mark (26:51):
Yeah, thought the cleaner did it. And then I was like, no,
maybe the daughter did it andthe cleaner's covering up. No,
no. The lechi teacher did it.

Sarah (27:00):
Maxine has put Red up in this Airbnb at two k a night for
two or more weeks. Yes. If she'sdoing it for two weeks, that's
30 k right there.

Mark (27:12):
Right there.

Sarah (27:13):
Never mind flight, all of his food, paying him to come.
Like how desperate is thisincredibly wealthy woman

Mark (27:22):
Yes.

Sarah (27:22):
Who's not ugly. No. She seems very intelligent. I'll
tell you what.

Mark (27:27):
She can do better. Dennis would date her. Dennis. Lawyer.
Buchanan.
Dennis Buchanan would be allover her.

Sarah (27:36):
I don't know. Isn't Dennis married? No. Because
remember Oh, that's right. Yeah.
That's right. He goes after theother woman who's got all the
the dead husbands. Yeah. ThenMike goes to see Gina. Yes.
Gina doesn't want to look at hisface anymore. No.

Mark (27:52):
She is

Sarah (27:53):
And she says he was we and we see he's stabbed in the
upper back so hard. She says itsevered his carotid artery.

Mark (28:02):
And they do a good job of like it's this thing that people
do who watch detective shows whogo oh okay well then this is the
and they come to the conclusionthat they don't know how tall
person is.

Sarah (28:15):
Yeah, because it was on stairs, right?

Mark (28:16):
So there's no way to tell.

Sarah (28:18):
So somebody on IMDB said it was a factual error that
there's no way your carotidartery could be severed from
being stabbed in the back,especially with a knife that
looks to be about six incheslong. The blade is like six
inches long.

Mark (28:33):
Never mind the if it nicked the carotid artery I'm
sure the pressure that is underthat particular part of the body
would shoot the knife out andblood all over.

Sarah (28:47):
So stupid me, you know, go Googling, can you sever your
carotid artery by being stabbedin the back? The answer is no
unless the knife is really long.Yeah. Really really long and
basically shoved through theback of your neck.

Mark (29:06):
Yeah and he wasn't it wasn't shoved through the back
of his neck.

Sarah (29:09):
Don't search for it. Okay? No. I did. I wish I
hadn't.
I especially wish I hadn'tlooked at the images tab. It's
bad.

Mark (29:19):
What do you mean? There's no blood when that happens.

Sarah (29:22):
It's very bad. Dissection is involved in many of the
images.

Mark (29:27):
So then Mike talks to Petra again and all she does is
lie to him and then says thatshe was sleeping with him and
she doesn't want her fiance toknow.

Sarah (29:40):
Who she just met during the last episode and now she's
gonna marry. Who? Like becausewhen you know, you know. Why
wait? We're getting married atthe end of this episode.

Mark (29:49):
Sims is automatically teleported into the car and just
said go home. You

Sarah (29:56):
know who I feel bad for? Willie. Yeah. Willie's got
constant new stepdads all thetime. He must be so confused.
Yes. He's such a good boy andhe's so cute.

Mark (30:07):
He's such a good boy. So we find out the old guy is suing

Sarah (30:12):
Carnaby is suing Rudd for a million dollars for stealing
his plot. Yeah. Which he clearlydid, basically says he did, and
then deletes the recording onCarnaby's phone. Like, come on,
Carnaby. You're smarter thanthat.
Right? You don't leave itsitting on the table. Yes. And

(30:32):
you're just like, Rud, you're soawful. You're even worse than we
already knew you were.

Mark (30:40):
We find out the panties weren't Petra's, they were
Maxine's. Because Mike shouldhave intimate details of Petra's
underwear.

Sarah (30:50):
She likes thongs. Go home, Mike. Go home, Mike. Yeah.
If you know that Yes.
That's that should be a rule.Detective should be recused from
case if related to one of thesuspects Yep. Knows what kind of
underwear one of the suspectswears.

Mark (31:06):
So is the old guy staying there? Is Bart Carnaby staying
there?

Sarah (31:10):
I that was the impression I got because he says it's not
my house. Yeah. Let's go to thewriter's shed. I guess. So maybe
he's borrowing it for the summeror renting it or I don't know.

Mark (31:26):
So then we have the world's most uncomfortable
scene, Reverend Green, Mrs. Mand the Gooseberry Fool.

Sarah (31:34):
The reverend is just trying to get feedback from a
big writer on his writing. AndHe wants to give him a home
cooked meal.

Mark (31:42):
It is it is difficult when talking to him and approaching
people like that. And it happensconstantly. And I I actually
like this scene. I thought itwas very good. And I learned
what a gooseberry fool was.

Sarah (31:57):
It's a trifle with gooseberries in it. Right?

Mark (31:59):
Yes. It's, made with sweet custard and folding in pureed
stewed fruit.

Sarah (32:05):
Yeah. It's like a trifle.

Mark (32:07):
Yes.

Sarah (32:07):
It's like a layered parfait.

Mark (32:09):
Yes. And they look good too.

Sarah (32:12):
So Tony has stolen Rudd's shaver and his watch. Yes. The
watch for the money and theshaver to get a DNA test done to
prove that her daughter is hisdaughter.

Mark (32:26):
But we don't know this already and there's a break in
at the Airbnb.

Sarah (32:30):
And I have a problem with this. Yes. Because that's not
how DNA tests work. No. A shaveris not gonna give you what you
need.

Mark (32:39):
No. Because you need the the bottom part of the hair.

Sarah (32:43):
Unless Rudd shaves with an epilady.

Mark (32:46):
Yes.

Sarah (32:48):
That yanks the hair out so you get the follicle or he's
really bad with it andconstantly gouging himself and
bleeding all over it. Yes. Buthe has a beard. So he's not it's
not an epilady. No.
If you epilady your beard, youwould just cry for weeks.

Mark (33:05):
It would be a toothbrush long before a shaver.

Sarah (33:09):
Yeah. I would think a toothbrush would be better. Yep.
Have you have you ever felt whatan what an epilator feels like?
No.
It is the most hideously painfulthing.

Mark (33:19):
I can only imagine.

Sarah (33:20):
And and I've carried triplets, and I can tell you it
hurts more.

Mark (33:25):
It has to be Brazilian waxy.

Sarah (33:28):
No. It's worse than that because wax, they rip it off at
once. It's gone. Right? Screampain pain gone.
An epilady is like being waxedin an ongoing fashion. Yes. Like
have you ever snagged like onenose hair?

Mark (33:45):
Oh yeah.

Sarah (33:46):
Okay. Imagine that over and over and over and over again
continuously. That's what itfeels like.

Mark (33:51):
Yeah.

Sarah (33:52):
But if he was using one on his face, then she would have
what she needs for the DNA test.But she doesn't. So I don't know
what she what she sends them.

Mark (34:01):
The attempted break in is reverend Green and we get to
hear about Petra and Mam

Sarah (34:07):
in the bathtub. In the hot tub.

Mark (34:09):
In the hot In

Sarah (34:10):
the tub. Book. It's so mean.

Mark (34:12):
It's so incredibly mean.

Sarah (34:14):
Well, missus m is okay with the homosexuals.

Mark (34:18):
She is. We come back to the cop shop and I

Sarah (34:24):
Oh, no. Find

Mark (34:25):
the sign in there. A new sign.

Sarah (34:27):
It a dry erase board again?

Mark (34:29):
Yes. It is. And it says green tea, choco, biscuits,
sugar, and soya milk. It is a

Sarah (34:35):
grocery The real signage that you need to be paying
attention to in this episode isin Hamish Drake's classroom.

Mark (34:43):
Wow. Okay.

Sarah (34:44):
Because I don't care that it's New Zealand and a high
school English classroom is ahigh school English classroom
and there's some stuff in thatclassroom that doesn't make any
sense.

Mark (34:54):
That both there is not make sense a little bit and then
there is not make sense a lot.First of all

Sarah (35:02):
Like there's not make sense in that classroom and then
there's not make sense anywherein existence.

Mark (35:07):
Yes. So this is our first trip to Brokenwood High School
where they all wear uniforms,which is kind of weird. And BO
hormones and socks, I can attestto.

Sarah (35:19):
That's absolutely true.

Mark (35:20):
Yep. Absolutely. There's a secondhand book sale. That is a
legitimate sign to be in hisclassroom. Okay.
There's a typewriter. That'slegitimate in his classroom.

Sarah (35:30):
The adding machine next to it? Not so much.

Mark (35:32):
The adding machine next to No. And then there are there are
signs that are really wrong. Butthe biggest one I have the
problem with is how to write agreat novel. And it's first of
all, it's an infographic.

Sarah (35:49):
Yeah. And it's three times in the classroom?

Mark (35:52):
And he teaches ten, eleven, and 12. Yeah. Those
people should not be writingnovels. They should be writing
short stories. I was told not towrite novels then, and I'm a
little sensitive about it.

Sarah (36:04):
What I couldn't get away from is the thing that's
immediately behind his desk Yes.That is a a hatch or a door with
a handle painted red, and itsays fire hose on one side. Yes.
But then next to that, in bigcapital letters, it says
aerobics.

Mark (36:22):
Okay. I don't know what that means.

Sarah (36:24):
I don't either. And I googled it, and I yeah. You can
use a fire hose to do someexercise, I guess, if you want.

Mark (36:30):
It's such a weird

Sarah (36:32):
But that's classroom. That doesn't make any sense to
be in his classroom. If that'slike some kind of emergency
equipment for a fire, why doesit say aerobics on it? Then
there's a second dry erase boardbehind the big one that says
home baking on it. Yeah.
I don't understand that either.

Mark (36:48):
The classroom is a b minus in set dressing, I would say.

Sarah (36:54):
I'm just confused by it. Yeah. Part of me says, oh no, if
I was from New Zealand, wouldget all this. Yes. I would
understand it.

Mark (37:02):
I guess, maybe.

Sarah (37:03):
But if there's a fire, don't break out into like steps.
It's not gonna help.

Mark (37:09):
Who is the fastest reader in Brokenwood? Oh, Mike. Because
he reads all of Rudd's books ina night.

Sarah (37:17):
Which is a problem, not not only because he reads them
really fast, but becauseeverybody else has already read
all of them, but has completelyforgotten everything in them
until Mike reminds them.

Mark (37:30):
Yes.

Sarah (37:30):
Like Sims is a huge fan. Gina is a huge fan.

Mark (37:35):
They should be bringing up points.

Sarah (37:37):
Either of them Either of them should be like Yep. Gina,
is the new book about you?

Mark (37:43):
Like immediately before they go inside, before the
sausage, the pale sausage rollsare even spilled. When when Sims
sees Gina she has to say, it'sthe start of the episode,
there's going to be a murder,you're obviously the person in
the new book, go home.

Sarah (38:06):
If you had your way there'd be nobody in this except
Sims. No she should walk up andgo Nina? And what has Gina made?
Because everybody thinks it'ssuper good, but she never says
what it

Mark (38:21):
is. No.

Sarah (38:22):
I don't. But it's her mother's recipe.

Mark (38:23):
But she loves it.

Sarah (38:25):
But everybody's read these books. Everybody's like a
devotee. Yeah. And yet nobodygoes, wait a minute, is this
plot in To Sir With Loathing?

Mark (38:35):
Cold Cuts? About you? Cold is that about a a So we the
books we know that he wrote areThe One Night Stand

Sarah (38:49):
Stab in the Back, Knife in the Back.

Mark (38:50):
Knife in the Back, To Sir With Loathing, and Cold Cuts.

Sarah (38:53):
Yeah. He's not good with titles.

Mark (38:56):
He's not good with titles.

Sarah (38:58):
I looked up To With Loathing because I just wanted
to see if anybody had named abook To Sir With Loathing. And I
couldn't find a book, but I didfind one academic article called
To Sir With Loathing, which isan analysis of school age

(39:18):
children's lyrics during theMiddle Ages and how they
critiqued their tutors in theirsongs that they wrote. Nice.

Mark (39:27):
Now I do agree that Mike understands the psychology of
this guy better and goes he'sbeen stealing from people in his
books for his life. That makessense. Because he knows the
whole background story.

Sarah (39:41):
And it's not the first time that Mike has speed read a
bunch of books. Nope. I thinkreading the books is smart. Yes.
I just have a problem with thefact that everybody else in the
episode is a big fan and willalready have read all of the
books and should have beenbringing this stuff up.
Do get impression that Petracheated on him when they were
married?

Mark (40:01):
I think so because he dumped her. Yeah. Because he
says that.

Sarah (40:04):
Well, he he walked away.

Mark (40:05):
Walked. Yeah.

Sarah (40:06):
And she seems kind of sensitive

Mark (40:08):
to the She's a

Sarah (40:08):
dump town. Cheating thing. Yep. Like, people change.

Mark (40:12):
Okay. I know I've been hitting on this all episode, but
when you

Sarah (40:16):
Who who should walk away now?

Mark (40:17):
When you have when you have suspects when you have
suspects on the scene during amurder investigation, you do a
little background. A simpleGoogle on this teacher would
reveal that

Sarah (40:31):
Sims doesn't.

Mark (40:32):
That, well no, he would do that right away. Yeah. Like the
night of.

Sarah (40:37):
Mhmm.

Mark (40:37):
And he's there with a student instead of go home Sims
would be like, get in here. Likeimmediately. Now, this teacher
resigns over sexual misconduct.

Sarah (40:49):
Oh you read the newspaper.

Mark (40:50):
I read the entire newspaper.

Sarah (40:52):
It's not nonsense, it's not gobbledygook?

Mark (40:54):
It's not gobbledygook but there is a mistake in it and I
think it's intentional.

Sarah (41:00):
Oh yeah?

Mark (41:01):
Because they talk about who he's in class with. Local
author, K. L. Carnaby. And twolines later, the next sentence,
they call him mister Barnaby.

Sarah (41:16):
Woah.

Mark (41:18):
Like, that is not misspelled anywhere else in the
article.

Sarah (41:22):
But it is just one letter, c for b.

Mark (41:24):
It is. Well, they're not near each other on the keyboard.
I checked. Many times,Brokenwood is called New
Zealand's Midsummer. Yeah.
I think that is a tiny Easteregg left for freakazoids like us
that that is a reference toBarnaby. I wouldn't say so if it

(41:49):
if it was, like, there's, like,four references in the article,
and they're all Carnaby exceptfor that one. Yeah. On the very
end Good catch. It says, misterBarnaby.
I was like, oh.

Sarah (42:01):
If only they called him DCI Barnaby

Mark (42:03):
or something. Like that. That's not Microsoft manual
style. No. It's pretty close toit.

Sarah (42:10):
Good catch.

Mark (42:11):
I I did indeed catch that one. And as soon as Sim saw that
article, she should have beenlike, get him in here.

Sarah (42:17):
Somebody Right now. Somewhere who is responsible for
that is so happy that somebodysaw their little joke. Yes.
You've just done them a bigfavor. Yep.
Poor Jared, he's leaving thebook reading.

Mark (42:31):
Yes.

Sarah (42:32):
He almost, well, he almost gets hit by a van, but
more importantly, the girl thathe sees walking on the sidewalk
who he has fallen instantly inlove with. Yes. Has is almost
run over by the van. And he saysthat she looks like she came
straight out of Epinema.

Mark (42:46):
Yes.

Sarah (42:47):
And then just says in passing, now turns out she's my
cousin. Whatever. Because he'srelated to everybody.

Mark (42:53):
He's related to everybody.

Sarah (42:54):
And I'm immediately like, tall and tan and young and
lovely. Like, the girl fromIpanema is such an earworm. It's
in there now.

Mark (43:04):
They do a great job of, oh, Maxine's the killer. Oh,
wait, no. Oh, Petra's thekiller. Oh, wait. No.

Sarah (43:11):
Oh, Tony's the killer.

Mark (43:12):
No. Tony's the killer.

Sarah (43:13):
Lindy confessed. It's her. No, it's not. Yes. I like
Drake.
I know that we're supposed tothink that he's a pedophile and
whatever, and he shouldn't havedated the 18 year old. Yes. But
the point of his life where wesee him in this episode, he
seems like a good person who Ithink if he didn't murder

(43:33):
somebody probably should havedated Tony. Oh, okay. He clearly
cares for her and Lindy.

Mark (43:40):
Up to the point of killing somebody, he's a good guy.

Sarah (43:43):
Mhmm.

Mark (43:43):
And should be treated as such. He lets his temper get
ahold of him. And then he makesa jump off the roof that he
didn't make to make. I'm noteven going to talk about how if
if he sprained his ankle, itwould be better. If he broke his
ankle, it would be worse.
Like just

Sarah (44:03):
sprained it.

Mark (44:04):
Isn't everyone going, why are you limping? He's a runner.

Sarah (44:08):
He twisted his ankle.

Mark (44:08):
I guess. So he's good to Tony. He's good to the daughter.
Missus m lives next door tothem. He knows all about them.
He says that she should get theDNA and evidence and confront
him.

Sarah (44:23):
Mhmm.

Mark (44:24):
All of that, I completely agree with. Right?

Sarah (44:27):
Mhmm.

Mark (44:28):
To the point that he kills somebody.

Sarah (44:31):
You like him until he kills somebody?

Mark (44:33):
I love I love Keith's Mike's little recreation.

Sarah (44:39):
He does Oh, yeah. Well, he's

Mark (44:39):
just a little pantomime where he's like

Sarah (44:43):
And then he jumps

Mark (44:43):
the other direction. Other direction.

Sarah (44:45):
And then he grabs the dish towel off the wall. Like, I
don't know what I would do if ifI were Drake in this situation
because Rudd is so mean toLindy. Doesn't even let her
speak. No. He's so mean.
And that play I would want topunch him down the stairs.

Mark (45:05):
I realized

Sarah (45:06):
I don't think I would have stabbed him but I might
have pushed him.

Mark (45:08):
That his play is I'm going to completely ignore this. But
he cannot ignore a DNA test. No.Okay? You simply can't.

Sarah (45:18):
No. He is If he wasn't dead, she'd be suing him.

Mark (45:22):
She could easily sue him.

Sarah (45:23):
For child support.

Mark (45:24):
For child support.

Sarah (45:25):
He's got plenty of money.

Mark (45:26):
It all comes out that it's him and I like how they do it
with like, these shows can havelots of interrogation room
confessions.

Sarah (45:36):
Mhmm.

Mark (45:37):
And I think they do a great job of Mike going over to
his house and saying, look,what's up?

Sarah (45:42):
Yeah. I know you did it. Well, Mike knows that if Drake
killed him, he he kinda knowswhy he probably did it. Yeah.
You know?
It wasn't because he wanted hismoney. It wasn't because he was
jealous of his success.

Mark (45:55):
And he does a great job of explaining why he was touching
her face in the estuary, whichthat's a bad move.

Sarah (46:04):
Yeah. He shouldn't be doing that with his history. No.
No. He could have just theycould have just gone on a walk
and sat on a bench.
They don't they don't have tohide like that.

Mark (46:14):
Yeah. They they don't have to hide like that. They could do
it at school.

Sarah (46:17):
They could be talking in a classroom.

Mark (46:18):
They could easily be doing that talk in the classroom with
the door open or you just grab acolleague and say we need Petra
need not Petra. Lindy. Lindyneeds to talk about this. Can
you step in here with us?

Sarah (46:32):
Or Tony, Lindy wants to meet him. Yeah. Can the three of
us talk?

Mark (46:37):
Yeah. Easy. Yeah. Yeah. The estuary thing is a little
much I think but also Maxinewalking around town is a little
improbable.

Sarah (46:47):
I don't believe she goes for walks.

Mark (46:49):
I no. But she sure if she didn't leave the knife around
none of this would havehappened. I think Maxine

Sarah (46:56):
I do. I think Drake would have shoved him down the stairs.

Mark (47:00):
But he might not have died then.

Sarah (47:01):
No. He might have shoved him down and then did a big like
WWE dive onto him and punchedhim in the face. Yes. And I
would have cheered that on.

Mark (47:11):
So we have a situation at the end of this episode. Usually
at the end of episodes that wetalk about the corpse. The
corpse is no problem. Right? Butwe have a very interesting
situation here at

Sarah (47:24):
the end of the episode. After the credits.

Mark (47:26):
The after the credits. Because first of all, the
teacher gets the girl, goes toprison, has time to write.
Because him and he and Tony.Tony are real close there

Sarah (47:43):
at the You think he's gonna come out of prison with a
novel to publish?

Mark (47:48):
She says that she's gonna come see him every week and
she's gonna be able to do thatbecause her and Lindy are

Sarah (47:55):
rich. Yeah.

Mark (47:58):
Because she is his direct descendant, she can prove it. So
all of his ill gotten booty thathe has these millions of dollars
plus the film rights, all thatstuff

Sarah (48:10):
Mhmm.

Mark (48:11):
Are legally hers.

Sarah (48:13):
Yeah. The worst case scenario is they have to split
them $50.50 with the brother inCanada. That's the worst case
scenario, which is bound tostill be a lot of money.

Mark (48:23):
Yeah. So the people who come out of this

Sarah (48:27):
And Tony's not dumb. She's not going to be like, oh I
could never take money from suchan awful person. No. She's like,
Give it to me.

Mark (48:33):
And she's not going to prison because the person she
stole the watch from is dead andthe brother's going to go, you
can keep that. He was a shit.Have his watch. Don't care. So
they are set up.
The killer is set up. It's avery

Sarah (48:50):
interesting He's gonna do what ten years or something? I
mean their sentences are soshort.

Mark (48:56):
Yeah. They are on easy street now. She's going to
university, that's

Sarah (49:02):
for sure. Well, she's talented and smart, she should.

Mark (49:04):
You know, when the brother shows up in his, you know, his

Sarah (49:08):
Flannel shirt.

Mark (49:09):
Flannel shirt and his toque going, what's this all
about? A booch

Sarah (49:14):
with his pet moose cause he's Canadian. Is Carnaby gonna
get money? Is he gonna are theygonna settle with him?

Mark (49:20):
I think they probably have like, Carnaby is gonna approach
them. Because I think that's asmart thing for Carnaby to do.
Mhmm. And he might get somethingthe worst that can happen is
they say no. Yeah.
And he won't sue them because heknows what they went through.

Sarah (49:39):
Right. I think so too.

Mark (49:40):
I think that they got off easy. Mhmm. I think that Maxine
wasted a lot of money.

Sarah (49:47):
Yep. Probably feels like an idiot. And not because of her
wardrobe, though she

Mark (49:52):
should. Do we see her again?

Sarah (49:55):
But she, I mean, she probably feels like she's been
made a fool of, but he's made afool of everybody he's ever
taken advantage of so sheshouldn't feel too bad about
that I don't think.

Mark (50:06):
We don't see her again. But now we do need to talk about
the cheese factory.

Sarah (50:11):
You mean the cheese maker?

Mark (50:13):
Well, the wedding is at the cheese factory. There are
tours of the cheese factory.Yeah. So that is a giant cheese
factory. Mister artisanal cheesemaker is loaded.
Mhmm. Okay? If he's gettingmarried there. Okay? Then
there's all the things that wecould talk about him.

Sarah (50:32):
The man bun. Man beard.

Mark (50:34):
All all that time. Third time's a charm. I thought that
she took off. I was like, oh, isshe gonna take off here? But no
she doesn't.
She goes up and

Sarah (50:44):
She's not really a full commitment type No. Type person
though.

Mark (50:47):
She isn't. She sleeps

Sarah (50:48):
with Rudd twice. She clearly would be happy to sleep
with Mike Yeah. And rekindletheir relationship. And he's
like, no no no no no no Goodbye.No.

Mark (51:00):
On all of that while engaged.

Sarah (51:02):
Yeah.

Mark (51:03):
Okay. Then we see her again. We see her again in the
next season.

Sarah (51:09):
Mhmm.

Mark (51:09):
In the episode about a farmer's market where her and
Man Bun are selling artisanalcheap.

Sarah (51:16):
Oh, so they work out for a little while.

Mark (51:18):
How on earth does Sims not show up and go,

Sarah (51:22):
go home.

Mark (51:25):
This is the second murder you are somehow involved in.

Sarah (51:31):
No, between her and the other lady whose husbands all
die, they should just besuspects in everything that
happens in Brokenwood. Cause oneor both of them are involved in
everything.

Mark (51:42):
Well, we have two more episodes of this season. The
next episode we have is the onewith the duck hunters and the
duck blind.

Sarah (51:53):
Mhmm.

Mark (51:54):
There's that episode. And then comes the my favorite
episode of this season, which isthe women's prison episode that
has all the women who have goneto prison in the stories
previous. Yep. At the prisonincluding our favorite, Trudy.

Sarah (52:13):
Trudy. Who's like running the prison. Totally running the
prison. Don't cross Trudy. Yeah.
She's a killer, but she'srunning the place. I this is a
fun episode. I I like the storyof it. I'm wondering if after
all is said and done, Ginacouldn't, you know, write a
little I'm not like Nina. Like,I just see all the people he

(52:38):
manipulated coming out of thewoodwork and having like a
support group or something.

Mark (52:41):
Yes. You know? Then we find out

Sarah (52:43):
Like Maxine and Gina could become best buddies
because they're they both gotripped off by this jerk.

Mark (52:49):
We didn't cover that part but Matt Gina is the evil person
in the latest novel. Yeah. Andlike But he

Sarah (52:58):
must leave a trail of people behind him that

Mark (53:01):
are He does.

Sarah (53:02):
You know?

Mark (53:02):
And they all went to this book reading in the three book
house.

Sarah (53:07):
No. These are just the ones from this location. Oh. Who
knows where you know, who he'sabused everywhere else.

Mark (53:14):
The people in Australia and Canada. Yeah. He's abused.
Who knows? Who knows?

Sarah (53:19):
So that was a real page turner. We will be off next week
because Mark will be traveling,but then we'll be back.

Mark (53:26):
I'm going out west to see my daughter. Yeehaw. I've never
been to Seattle.

Sarah (53:33):
You're going to Seattle. Yeah. Have fun. Yep. If you have
any recommendations for thingsthat Mark should do in Seattle,
send them our way.

Mark (53:38):
Absolutely.

Sarah (53:39):
He's gonna be there for almost a week. Right?

Mark (53:42):
Six days.

Sarah (53:42):
Yeah. Six days. So I'll be man in the fort all by
myself. Things are bound to goawry.

Mark (53:49):
No. They're not. Everything's gonna go fine.

Sarah (53:51):
Last time you went out of town before you even got to the
place you were going Yes. Thetire exploded on the car. Yes.
It was awesome.

Mark (53:59):
So we'll be back.

Sarah (54:00):
In two weeks with Dead Men Don't Shoot Ducks.

Mark (54:04):
There's no Daffy in it. I love Daffy Duck. There's no
Daffy.

Sarah (54:09):
There should there should be an Abnomer Fudd.

Mark (54:11):
Hunting season is one of my favorite cartoons of all

Sarah (54:14):
I saw a duck.

Mark (54:15):
I thought I saw a duck. Okay. Anyway, bye maniacs. Bye
maniacs. Thanks for joining uson the mystery maniacs podcast.
If you enjoyed our crazy podcasttoday, don't miss out on future
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(54:36):
and share to spread the word.Bye, Maniacs.

Sarah (54:40):
Maybe they're more along the lines of like, oh, the
werewolf and the vampire books,the Twilight.

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